1 00:00:06,466 --> 00:00:09,969 ‎(本视频包含 ‎针对未成年人的真实的性虐待细节) 2 00:00:10,053 --> 00:00:14,015 ‎(可能会引起部分观众不适) 3 00:00:20,730 --> 00:00:23,274 ‎-你从未对此产生过反感? ‎-嗯 4 00:00:23,357 --> 00:00:25,443 ‎-那无条件顺从吗? ‎-嗯 5 00:00:26,152 --> 00:00:27,361 ‎没什么好奇怪的 6 00:00:27,445 --> 00:00:28,821 ‎为什么呢? 7 00:00:28,905 --> 00:00:30,656 ‎他跟女人们提出发生关系 8 00:00:30,740 --> 00:00:32,784 ‎就得服从吗? 9 00:00:33,618 --> 00:00:34,702 ‎牧师不是普通人类 10 00:00:35,620 --> 00:00:36,662 ‎那么做就能解决一切 11 00:00:36,746 --> 00:00:39,707 ‎天父说不是罪 那就不是罪 12 00:00:42,710 --> 00:00:44,253 ‎“如果爱 就什么都能做” 13 00:00:45,004 --> 00:00:45,963 ‎因为他是神 14 00:00:46,631 --> 00:00:48,007 ‎他说想看胸部 15 00:00:48,591 --> 00:00:50,259 ‎问能不能脱掉衣服 16 00:00:51,010 --> 00:00:52,678 ‎他让我一直发出呻吟声 17 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:57,016 ‎他非常仔细地观察那个部位 18 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,601 ‎非常仔细地盯着看 19 00:01:00,186 --> 00:01:02,188 ‎即使看着有瑕疵或斑点 20 00:01:03,481 --> 00:01:05,108 ‎即使接了吻 21 00:01:06,734 --> 00:01:09,028 ‎哪怕是躺在一起了 22 00:01:09,112 --> 00:01:10,988 ‎我相信各位会原谅我 23 00:01:11,531 --> 00:01:13,324 ‎但我在上帝面前是光明正大的 24 00:01:13,407 --> 00:01:15,326 ‎我在上帝面前真的是光明正大 25 00:01:19,038 --> 00:01:20,706 ‎(万民教会) 26 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:22,792 ‎(万民教会) 27 00:01:24,043 --> 00:01:26,504 ‎以神之名:信仰的背叛 28 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:38,891 ‎剧名:入狱的万民之神 29 00:01:41,561 --> 00:01:44,021 ‎亲爱的各位万民圣徒 30 00:01:45,481 --> 00:01:48,693 ‎欢迎来到牧羊人城堡 31 00:01:54,323 --> 00:01:57,743 ‎天父为了各位万民圣徒 32 00:01:58,870 --> 00:02:02,123 ‎准备了如此美丽的地方 33 00:02:05,918 --> 00:02:07,712 ‎天国分五个阶段 34 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:09,088 ‎第一阶段 35 00:02:10,298 --> 00:02:11,841 ‎是一个被称为乐园的地方 36 00:02:11,924 --> 00:02:13,092 ‎(乐园) 37 00:02:13,176 --> 00:02:14,927 ‎然后第二阶段称为一天层 38 00:02:15,011 --> 00:02:16,053 ‎(一天层) 39 00:02:16,804 --> 00:02:18,556 ‎再上面是二天层 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,515 ‎(二天层) 41 00:02:20,057 --> 00:02:21,142 ‎之上是三天层 42 00:02:21,225 --> 00:02:22,059 ‎(三天层) 43 00:02:22,768 --> 00:02:24,687 ‎最后是新耶路撒冷 44 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:27,440 ‎(新耶路撒冷) 45 00:02:27,523 --> 00:02:30,401 ‎在乐园里 只能永远住在草地上 46 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:31,319 ‎(信仰的尺度) 47 00:02:31,402 --> 00:02:32,904 ‎一天层有公寓楼 48 00:02:33,529 --> 00:02:35,489 ‎二天层可以拥有独立住宅 49 00:02:36,115 --> 00:02:37,658 ‎三千层提供城堡 50 00:02:38,284 --> 00:02:42,496 ‎他们说 在新耶路撒冷 ‎则能拥有一座宫殿般的城堡 51 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:46,292 ‎如此美丽和耀眼的新耶路撒冷 52 00:02:47,418 --> 00:02:50,796 ‎我们能去那个地方 别提有多感激了 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,049 ‎天父 谢谢您! 54 00:02:55,426 --> 00:02:59,180 ‎各位 有没有选好你们的房子? 55 00:02:59,263 --> 00:03:00,097 ‎阿门! 56 00:03:00,181 --> 00:03:01,140 ‎有 57 00:03:01,224 --> 00:03:04,227 ‎那里本身很宽敞 58 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:09,106 ‎大概有数百万平方米那么大 59 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:12,068 ‎那里不仅有大海 ‎还有各位喜欢的湖泊 60 00:03:12,568 --> 00:03:14,487 ‎我活着就是为了去那里… 61 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:15,571 ‎(万民中央教会退教者) 62 00:03:15,655 --> 00:03:16,614 ‎…最好的地方 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,116 ‎离天父的宝座最近的地方 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,493 ‎他们称之为“信仰的尺度”… 65 00:03:20,576 --> 00:03:21,702 ‎(金明俊 万民中央教会退教者) 66 00:03:21,786 --> 00:03:23,204 ‎…万民教会后来开始利用这一点 67 00:03:23,287 --> 00:03:24,497 ‎他们在纸上写着 68 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:25,414 ‎(和谐组 金明俊 洗礼人) 69 00:03:25,498 --> 00:03:28,960 ‎“你信仰的位置在这里” ‎然后把写有数据的纸条分给我们 70 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:30,878 ‎“你的信仰处于二阶段的30%” 71 00:03:30,962 --> 00:03:32,588 ‎“你的信仰处于三阶段的70%” 72 00:03:32,672 --> 00:03:35,174 ‎所以人们对此狂热的同时 73 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,135 ‎感到非常不安 74 00:03:38,219 --> 00:03:39,262 ‎(第四阶段 02.90) 75 00:03:39,345 --> 00:03:41,639 ‎信仰等级高 可以成为明星一路升级 76 00:03:42,348 --> 00:03:43,891 ‎如果信仰等级低 77 00:03:43,975 --> 00:03:46,978 ‎就会完全被淘汰 处于落后状态 78 00:03:49,563 --> 00:03:52,400 ‎为了获得高的信仰尺度 ‎人们不惜努力 79 00:03:52,483 --> 00:03:54,652 ‎从此以后 人们会更努力种树 80 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,196 ‎更努力贡献、投资和努力 81 00:03:58,864 --> 00:03:59,949 ‎哦耶! 82 00:04:00,032 --> 00:04:00,866 ‎我当时 83 00:04:01,367 --> 00:04:03,494 ‎升到了第四阶段的3% 84 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:04,412 ‎(第四阶段) 85 00:04:04,495 --> 00:04:05,329 ‎(第三阶段) 86 00:04:05,413 --> 00:04:09,208 ‎我到了第三阶段的40%左右 87 00:04:09,792 --> 00:04:10,918 ‎我当时处于第三阶段 88 00:04:11,002 --> 00:04:11,919 ‎(第三阶段) 89 00:04:12,003 --> 00:04:14,380 ‎大概给我定为60%左右 90 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:17,717 ‎在万民中央教会 ‎第三阶段60%处于中间位置 91 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,801 ‎(李光五 退教者) 92 00:04:18,884 --> 00:04:20,386 ‎我很早就达到那个水平了 93 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:22,513 ‎老实说 ‎很早达到那个位置 当时很高兴 94 00:04:22,596 --> 00:04:24,849 ‎我大概排名第800名左右 95 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:26,642 ‎总共有15000人 96 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:28,894 ‎这是去天国的排序 97 00:04:28,978 --> 00:04:32,189 ‎第800名可是了不起的排名 98 00:04:32,273 --> 00:04:33,983 ‎(万民中央教会) 99 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:36,110 ‎有些人不到中间水平 100 00:04:36,777 --> 00:04:38,863 ‎有些人隔了几年连纸条都没有 101 00:04:39,447 --> 00:04:41,449 ‎有些人已算小有名气了 ‎却仍没有得到纸条 102 00:04:43,075 --> 00:04:45,244 ‎没有得到都是有理由的 103 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:46,912 ‎要明白这是为什么 104 00:04:46,996 --> 00:04:49,040 ‎回头想想 这信仰的尺度 105 00:04:49,123 --> 00:04:52,418 ‎出钱多的等级高 出钱少的等级低 106 00:04:52,501 --> 00:04:54,378 ‎这是我总结出的结论 107 00:05:01,469 --> 00:05:06,015 ‎(不要偷盗) 108 00:05:06,098 --> 00:05:07,350 ‎(万民中央教会) 109 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:10,603 ‎事实上 这番布道 110 00:05:10,686 --> 00:05:13,856 ‎可以说是地狱布道的延长线 111 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:16,025 ‎不交什一奉献和供物时 112 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:20,154 ‎各位要明白这会受到上帝的诅咒 113 00:05:20,237 --> 00:05:21,072 ‎阿门 114 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:22,448 ‎这种情况我看多了 115 00:05:23,074 --> 00:05:25,951 ‎所以 当我听说有人被车撞了 116 00:05:26,035 --> 00:05:29,330 ‎骨头撞碎了 117 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:32,625 ‎或者脑出血了 118 00:05:33,459 --> 00:05:35,878 ‎这种情况原因很明确 百分之一百 119 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:38,339 ‎没好好上交什一奉献 对不对? 120 00:05:49,809 --> 00:05:50,768 ‎感谢募捐 121 00:05:51,352 --> 00:05:52,561 ‎建筑募捐 122 00:05:53,145 --> 00:05:54,105 ‎救济募捐 123 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:55,648 ‎特别募捐 124 00:05:56,232 --> 00:05:57,566 ‎区礼拜的时候交的募捐 125 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:59,318 ‎麦秋感恩募捐 126 00:05:59,902 --> 00:06:01,028 ‎复活节募捐 127 00:06:01,612 --> 00:06:03,823 ‎圣诞节还另有募捐 128 00:06:04,407 --> 00:06:05,658 ‎加上什一奉献 129 00:06:06,242 --> 00:06:07,952 ‎什一奉献还要算税前 130 00:06:10,538 --> 00:06:13,499 ‎有些人说自己没有工作 131 00:06:13,582 --> 00:06:16,710 ‎所以没钱交什一奉献 132 00:06:16,794 --> 00:06:19,964 ‎但要我说 没人交不起什一奉献 133 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:24,301 ‎即使很小的孩子 ‎通过压岁钱和零用钱 134 00:06:24,385 --> 00:06:28,139 ‎还有百日、周岁、生日礼物等等 ‎都是有收入的 135 00:06:28,222 --> 00:06:30,474 ‎父母可以用这笔收入 136 00:06:30,558 --> 00:06:34,145 ‎以孩子的名义提交什一奉献 137 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:43,112 ‎万民教会通过两种途径交钱 138 00:06:43,195 --> 00:06:44,697 ‎募捐和供物 139 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:47,908 ‎把钱放进募捐信封交出去 叫募捐 140 00:06:48,451 --> 00:06:50,369 ‎而供物是非正式的钱 141 00:06:51,287 --> 00:06:53,122 ‎就是说 募捐是一个单独的概念 142 00:06:53,205 --> 00:06:56,083 ‎募捐是一码事 供物又是另一码事 143 00:06:56,167 --> 00:06:59,170 ‎所以去那个教会的人 ‎真的没钱过日子 144 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:02,423 ‎哪怕是几万韩元 145 00:07:02,506 --> 00:07:04,967 ‎人们即便欠债 也要提交供物 146 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:08,304 ‎他们经常让几个圣徒之间 147 00:07:08,888 --> 00:07:10,473 ‎相互竞争 148 00:07:10,556 --> 00:07:13,017 ‎比谁出更多 “某某是第一名 149 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:16,520 ‎某某长老第二名 某某长老第三名 150 00:07:17,313 --> 00:07:19,023 ‎比如我 第七名 李光五” 151 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:21,358 ‎在这24年期间 152 00:07:21,442 --> 00:07:23,944 ‎我大概上交了十亿韩元以上 153 00:07:24,028 --> 00:07:26,947 ‎按家庭算 ‎我们家也交过十亿韩元以上 154 00:07:27,031 --> 00:07:29,325 ‎最少大概是八亿 155 00:07:29,408 --> 00:07:31,869 ‎但我看至少有十亿了 156 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:35,206 ‎经济上受到剥削的人也不在少数 157 00:07:35,289 --> 00:07:36,123 ‎(张号其编导 2019年负责 ‎“PD手册”《万民中央教会》) 158 00:07:36,207 --> 00:07:39,418 ‎很多人整个人生都上交给万民教会了 159 00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:41,879 ‎他们给那些人洗脑 160 00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:44,215 ‎(张云哲记者 ‎采访万民中央教会“教会与信仰”) 161 00:07:44,298 --> 00:07:46,425 ‎为的是满足自己的利益 162 00:07:47,092 --> 00:07:48,177 ‎简直坏到极点了 163 00:07:56,101 --> 00:07:58,729 ‎想想去万民教会的人们 164 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,814 ‎大多数是处于最底层的生活水准… 165 00:08:00,898 --> 00:08:02,691 ‎(万民中央教会退教者 教会职员) 166 00:08:02,775 --> 00:08:04,693 ‎…按照月收入来看的话 167 00:08:04,777 --> 00:08:09,949 ‎可以说 大多数都属于底层水准 168 00:08:10,032 --> 00:08:12,159 ‎即便这样 上交的现金可不少 169 00:08:12,243 --> 00:08:13,285 ‎(万民中央教会) 170 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:15,996 ‎怎么会有这么多现金? 171 00:08:16,622 --> 00:08:17,498 ‎那些人出去打工 172 00:08:17,581 --> 00:08:19,458 ‎喂 你把这个端过去 173 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:25,464 ‎家庭主妇辛苦打工挣到的钱 174 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:29,260 ‎500万韩元、1000万韩元 175 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:31,387 ‎所以他们不仅生活拮据 176 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:33,430 ‎很多人还欠着债 177 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,391 ‎礼拜结束后 人们从教会走出来… 178 00:08:35,474 --> 00:08:36,559 ‎(边成广 1999年《PD手册 ‎之万民中央教会》副导演) 179 00:08:36,642 --> 00:08:39,812 ‎…而在万民中央教会 ‎礼拜结束后人们排成一队 180 00:08:40,896 --> 00:08:42,815 ‎-牧师! ‎-牧师! 181 00:08:43,607 --> 00:08:44,817 ‎牧师! 182 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:47,194 ‎我们三代人为您加油! 183 00:08:47,278 --> 00:08:48,487 ‎好 谢谢 184 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:50,739 ‎如果有人握着李载禄的手 ‎要他帮忙祈祷 185 00:08:50,823 --> 00:08:51,865 ‎车就会停下来 186 00:08:54,994 --> 00:08:58,831 ‎圣徒A 祈祷一分钟或20秒、30秒 187 00:09:00,499 --> 00:09:03,210 ‎里面有人专门负责收钱 188 00:09:03,794 --> 00:09:05,504 ‎我们有企划室长 189 00:09:06,088 --> 00:09:08,173 ‎据我所知 信封里放进数百万现金 190 00:09:08,257 --> 00:09:11,927 ‎只为了得到祝福祈祷 191 00:09:12,011 --> 00:09:13,929 ‎主亲自在头上按手 192 00:09:14,013 --> 00:09:15,639 ‎(2007年11月1日 企业家传教聚会) 193 00:09:15,723 --> 00:09:18,726 ‎以此朗诵圣灵的感动 ‎教化以及充实感 194 00:09:18,809 --> 00:09:19,768 ‎阿门 195 00:09:19,852 --> 00:09:21,687 ‎请用光围绕他们 196 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:22,730 ‎阿门 197 00:09:22,813 --> 00:09:25,357 ‎他们内部有企业家传教聚会 198 00:09:25,441 --> 00:09:27,318 ‎上交很多钱的实权者们 199 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:29,570 ‎会给我们发来邀请 200 00:09:29,653 --> 00:09:31,238 ‎去了之后又给我们钱 201 00:09:31,322 --> 00:09:33,657 ‎一人300万、500万韩元左右 202 00:09:33,741 --> 00:09:35,534 ‎大约8月份的时候 203 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,247 ‎有六、七名 204 00:09:40,331 --> 00:09:42,541 ‎上交一千万以上的什一奉献 205 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:44,793 ‎而如今 这些人达到12位了 206 00:09:44,877 --> 00:09:45,711 ‎阿门 207 00:09:45,794 --> 00:09:48,339 ‎-我将成为天父的喜悦 ‎-好 208 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:50,132 ‎来 我们上车去接收祈祷 209 00:09:50,215 --> 00:09:51,508 ‎-好 ‎-请 210 00:09:52,426 --> 00:09:54,345 ‎-好 ‎-快出来吧 211 00:09:54,428 --> 00:09:56,472 ‎-好 ‎-我们彼此扶持 继续前进吧 212 00:09:57,473 --> 00:09:59,099 ‎我给您换了辆新车 213 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:01,101 ‎是哪个国家产的? 214 00:10:01,185 --> 00:10:03,103 ‎德国产的 215 00:10:04,063 --> 00:10:07,399 ‎天父 请此刻在车上按手祈祷吧 216 00:10:07,483 --> 00:10:08,317 ‎阿门 217 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,027 ‎-也在车钥匙上按手吧 ‎-阿门 218 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:11,654 ‎-接住光吧 ‎-阿门 219 00:10:11,737 --> 00:10:13,906 ‎我们以耶稣基督的名义祈祷 220 00:10:13,989 --> 00:10:15,199 ‎-阿门 ‎-阿门 221 00:10:18,994 --> 00:10:21,622 ‎要跟牧师一起拍照 就得交钱 222 00:10:22,748 --> 00:10:25,000 ‎具体金额已经记不清了 223 00:10:25,084 --> 00:10:27,586 ‎但起码有几十万韩元起步 224 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:31,590 ‎后来要跟牧师一起拍照的人变多 225 00:10:32,216 --> 00:10:34,510 ‎我记得后来 ‎至少要交一百万韩元才能一起拍照 226 00:10:34,593 --> 00:10:38,222 ‎我记得大概交了一千万韩元 ‎才能一起拍照片 227 00:10:54,196 --> 00:10:56,031 ‎这是交了钱拍的照片 228 00:10:58,867 --> 00:11:00,661 ‎这种相框至少有40个 229 00:11:06,208 --> 00:11:08,919 ‎每张算一千万韩元 也有两亿韩元了 230 00:11:10,504 --> 00:11:11,338 ‎(万民教会书店) 231 00:11:11,422 --> 00:11:14,425 ‎有个叫万民书店的地方 ‎是属于万民教会的书店 232 00:11:15,592 --> 00:11:17,469 ‎里面有装着李载禄照片的相框 233 00:11:17,553 --> 00:11:18,971 ‎(祝福祈祷相框 五万韩元) 234 00:11:19,054 --> 00:11:22,141 ‎还有钥匙链、手册之类的周边物 235 00:11:22,224 --> 00:11:23,892 ‎我们一个个购买那些产品 236 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:27,104 ‎可说是非常狡猾的生意 237 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:30,607 ‎对我来说 最搞笑的是务安精华 238 00:11:34,111 --> 00:11:36,739 ‎为了方便使用务安精华 239 00:11:36,822 --> 00:11:38,907 ‎他们会装进喷雾瓶里面 240 00:11:38,991 --> 00:11:39,825 ‎(务安精华) 241 00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:41,618 ‎太不可思议了 竟然还卖那些 242 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:43,996 ‎没有双眼皮的人 喷了会成双眼皮 243 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:46,915 ‎往出故障的洗衣机喷一下 ‎洗衣机又能继续使用 244 00:11:49,001 --> 00:11:52,337 ‎精华的奇迹 ‎在出故障的洗衣机上也显现了 245 00:11:52,421 --> 00:11:55,966 ‎喷上精华后重新拧紧螺丝 246 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:57,301 ‎洗衣机不再漏水了 247 00:11:57,384 --> 00:12:00,137 ‎现在一打开 洗衣机运作正常 248 00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:01,930 ‎真是奇迹彰显 249 00:12:02,014 --> 00:12:03,557 ‎应该是天气变冷的关系 250 00:12:04,349 --> 00:12:05,809 ‎打不开了 怎么办? 251 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:08,270 ‎经过50分钟也打不开的门 252 00:12:08,854 --> 00:12:10,063 ‎喷上务安精华后 253 00:12:10,898 --> 00:12:13,233 ‎咔嚓一声 门就开了 254 00:12:21,909 --> 00:12:22,743 ‎(务安万民) 255 00:12:22,826 --> 00:12:25,120 ‎务安精华对万民教会的人来说 256 00:12:25,204 --> 00:12:26,038 ‎(牧羊人:李载禄牧师) 257 00:12:26,121 --> 00:12:27,623 ‎简直是灵丹妙药 258 00:12:28,207 --> 00:12:31,460 ‎他们主张 李载禄给务安精华祈祷了 259 00:12:31,543 --> 00:12:33,921 ‎所以里面蕴含着光 也就是权能 260 00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:35,839 ‎(请协助肉之精华成为灵之精华…) 261 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,218 ‎因此他们声称 ‎喝了精华或用过精华后 262 00:12:39,301 --> 00:12:42,346 ‎据说能体验神奇的奇迹 263 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:53,273 ‎然后像自动应答机一样 ‎打电话到语音信箱 264 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:57,528 ‎聆听李载禄事先录好的内容 265 00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:59,446 ‎这里是万民中央圣洁教会 266 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:02,491 ‎聆听李载禄牧师的早晨祈祷 请按10 267 00:13:02,574 --> 00:13:04,284 ‎为身心安稳祈祷 请按20 268 00:13:04,368 --> 00:13:06,161 ‎三分钟传教 请按30 269 00:13:06,245 --> 00:13:07,704 ‎为患者祈祷 请按40 270 00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:10,582 ‎我爷爷去世之前 271 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:14,753 ‎当他躺在医院的时候 ‎我特别希望他能好起来 272 00:13:14,837 --> 00:13:16,129 ‎于是我给爷爷戴上耳机 273 00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:18,924 ‎给他听了李载禄为患者录的祈祷 274 00:13:19,758 --> 00:13:22,052 ‎现在开始为患者祈祷 275 00:13:22,553 --> 00:13:25,639 ‎请把双手放在 ‎疼痛的部位或脆弱的部位接受祈祷 276 00:13:25,722 --> 00:13:28,308 ‎没有生病的人可以把手放在胸口 277 00:13:28,392 --> 00:13:29,810 ‎爷爷当时听着听着 278 00:13:30,727 --> 00:13:34,356 ‎希望我给他摘下来 所以望着我 279 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:36,567 ‎但我希望他能听完 280 00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:38,944 ‎所以迫使他听完了整段祈祷 281 00:13:40,237 --> 00:13:41,822 ‎现在想想 应该多跟爷爷说说话 282 00:13:41,905 --> 00:13:44,449 ‎陪他多走走才对 283 00:13:49,538 --> 00:13:51,665 ‎客观上看 都跟钱有关 284 00:13:52,249 --> 00:13:53,917 ‎虽然教会里面一直否定这一点 285 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:55,085 ‎(募捐礼拜目标:15亿) 286 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:57,004 ‎教会真的积累着大量钱财 287 00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:57,921 ‎(高额募捐者优待方案) 288 00:13:58,005 --> 00:14:01,091 ‎出三百万就和 ‎其他出三百万以上的人一起聚 289 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:02,009 ‎(三百万韩元以上礼拜前可见牧师) 290 00:14:02,092 --> 00:14:04,303 ‎出五百万以上的人可以单独一起聚 291 00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:05,220 ‎(五百万韩元以上 ‎礼拜前可与牧师见面) 292 00:14:05,304 --> 00:14:06,889 ‎出一千万以上的人又单独一起聚 293 00:14:06,972 --> 00:14:08,348 ‎出最多的人单独和牧师见面 294 00:14:08,432 --> 00:14:09,266 ‎(一千万韩元以上 ‎礼拜前可与牧师见面) 295 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:11,226 ‎那些人一般出一亿以上 296 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:15,314 ‎出那么多钱的人 教会怎么接待? 297 00:14:16,315 --> 00:14:17,858 ‎教会嘛 嗯 298 00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:21,528 ‎像特别贵宾一样对待我们 299 00:14:22,112 --> 00:14:24,781 ‎有些穿着漂亮的韩服的人 300 00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:26,950 ‎她们领我们到特别座席 301 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:31,204 ‎特别在台面最前排专留了位置 302 00:14:32,414 --> 00:14:34,708 ‎这在万民教会能成为羡慕的对象 303 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:37,336 ‎“嚯 那不是一般人能坐的位置 304 00:14:37,419 --> 00:14:40,964 ‎他募捐了很多钱 力挺我们的牧师” 305 00:14:41,048 --> 00:14:45,010 ‎说实话 这让我心情很好 306 00:14:45,093 --> 00:14:46,678 ‎为了这个… 307 00:14:46,762 --> 00:14:47,763 ‎(万民教会退教者) 308 00:14:47,846 --> 00:14:49,973 ‎…每年募捐礼拜都捐出至少300万 309 00:14:50,057 --> 00:14:51,391 ‎乃至几千万韩元 310 00:14:51,475 --> 00:14:53,727 ‎以帮助我姐姐坐在最前排 311 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:55,687 ‎交越多的钱 312 00:14:55,771 --> 00:14:57,773 ‎越有权限坐在前排 313 00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:01,234 ‎坐最前面为什么那么重要呢? 314 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:05,197 ‎因为可以在最前面看着牧师 315 00:15:11,161 --> 00:15:14,373 ‎(不要杀人) 316 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:20,837 ‎疾病可以看作是被诅咒的结果 317 00:15:20,921 --> 00:15:23,298 ‎如果不存在罪 就不会有疾病 318 00:15:23,382 --> 00:15:26,885 ‎各位 按照上帝的指示 ‎不犯罪的人 有谁会生病? 319 00:15:27,552 --> 00:15:28,512 ‎阿门 320 00:15:29,638 --> 00:15:31,390 ‎有人得了绝症 321 00:15:31,473 --> 00:15:35,268 ‎就说明犯了死罪 322 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:38,563 ‎“无罪不生病 有罪才会生病” 323 00:15:38,647 --> 00:15:42,651 ‎按照他们的主张 ‎去医院就等于信仰不够坚实 324 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:45,904 ‎因为李载禄最引以为豪的一句话就是 325 00:15:46,822 --> 00:15:48,240 ‎“我的圣徒不会生病” 326 00:15:48,824 --> 00:15:51,952 ‎因此 实际上没什么大不了的病 327 00:15:52,035 --> 00:15:55,956 ‎初期接受治疗就能治好的那些病 ‎因为只靠祈祷 328 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,250 ‎很多人得了肺结核死了 329 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:01,753 ‎肺结核可说是 ‎和万民教会的历史同步发展的 330 00:16:01,837 --> 00:16:03,380 ‎都有着悠久的历史 331 00:16:04,047 --> 00:16:05,632 ‎艺能委员会平均年龄 332 00:16:05,716 --> 00:16:09,011 ‎只有二十几岁和三十几岁 333 00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:13,724 ‎在那里一起唱歌跳舞 334 00:16:13,807 --> 00:16:15,058 ‎而且大家都年轻 335 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,893 ‎所以非常活跃 336 00:16:17,394 --> 00:16:18,562 ‎幸福的果实 337 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:19,813 ‎幸福的果实 338 00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:25,235 ‎有了变化 339 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,863 ‎有了变化 340 00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:31,241 ‎给我们的大爱 341 00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:33,827 ‎很多美好的人 342 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:36,705 ‎都这么去世了 343 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:42,210 ‎我妻子… 344 00:16:43,253 --> 00:16:44,254 ‎(万民中央教会退教者) 345 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:47,132 ‎…于2006年走了 346 00:16:52,429 --> 00:16:55,474 ‎亲爱的圣徒们 大家好 我是金某某 347 00:16:55,557 --> 00:16:57,726 ‎继上一次的100集特辑之后 348 00:16:57,809 --> 00:17:01,021 ‎天父通过牧师 ‎传递给我们的巨大权能和… 349 00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:01,980 ‎某某姐姐 350 00:17:02,064 --> 00:17:04,649 ‎当时在哈利路亚传教团 ‎是非常漂亮的姐姐 351 00:17:04,733 --> 00:17:05,567 ‎(万民教会退教者) 352 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:08,570 ‎身材也非常苗条 353 00:17:08,653 --> 00:17:10,906 ‎嗓音也非常柔美 354 00:17:13,617 --> 00:17:14,659 ‎有一天她在刷牙 355 00:17:15,243 --> 00:17:17,913 ‎突然口含着泡沫就跑过来 356 00:17:19,998 --> 00:17:20,832 ‎说是出血了 357 00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:24,961 ‎我要带她去医院 358 00:17:29,007 --> 00:17:29,966 ‎结果说是肺结核 359 00:17:31,802 --> 00:17:34,012 ‎在这里 你必须接受信仰的治疗 360 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:36,389 ‎而且她在信仰坚实的礼赞组 361 00:17:37,974 --> 00:17:39,309 ‎刚发现病情的时候 362 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,939 ‎她坚持只接受信仰的治疗 363 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:51,029 ‎“我应该只爱李载禄一个人 364 00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:54,241 ‎都是因为结了婚才得了这种病 365 00:17:54,324 --> 00:17:55,909 ‎所以得了绝症要死了” 366 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:58,370 ‎即使死去 她都认为自己是罪人 367 00:18:00,163 --> 00:18:01,873 ‎有人得了绝症 368 00:18:01,957 --> 00:18:05,836 ‎就说明犯了死罪 369 00:18:29,025 --> 00:18:30,152 ‎她快要去世的时候 370 00:18:32,195 --> 00:18:33,029 ‎真的是 371 00:18:33,864 --> 00:18:34,990 ‎骨瘦如柴 372 00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:38,702 ‎她的肺几乎缩没了 373 00:18:41,663 --> 00:18:42,497 ‎她走得 374 00:18:44,958 --> 00:18:46,126 ‎那么痛苦不堪 375 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:02,767 ‎除了肺结核 376 00:19:02,851 --> 00:19:06,104 ‎还有很多人因为癌症受了苦 377 00:19:06,188 --> 00:19:08,940 ‎看着那些人 不禁会想: ‎“信仰这东西到底是什么呢? 378 00:19:09,024 --> 00:19:11,610 ‎为何能阻止这么多人不去医院 379 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:14,321 ‎让他们置于死地 ‎这是真正的信仰吗?” 380 00:19:14,404 --> 00:19:15,530 ‎我当时是这么想的 381 00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,954 ‎(不要通奸) 382 00:19:23,038 --> 00:19:25,916 ‎说起人们受鬼神的奴役的理由 383 00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,001 ‎鬼神 384 00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:29,502 ‎在传教里经常提到 385 00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:32,130 ‎通奸的人们 386 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:36,468 ‎这些通奸的人 ‎被鬼附体 自己浑然不知 387 00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:40,430 ‎有通奸期间 他们特别想通奸 388 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,766 ‎所以一而再 再而三地犯 同时又犯罪 389 00:19:43,391 --> 00:19:46,770 ‎浑然不知自己被鬼所控制 390 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:50,482 ‎李载禄特别强调关于通奸的事 391 00:19:50,565 --> 00:19:52,317 ‎就是关于男女之间的事 392 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,444 ‎而且他经常说 393 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:56,905 ‎因为自己不通奸 394 00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:58,490 ‎所以即使看着裸体女人 395 00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:00,659 ‎也丝毫不为所动 396 00:20:01,743 --> 00:20:05,330 ‎因此之后男女渐渐分为两派 397 00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:08,625 ‎他叫我们坐也不要坐一起 398 00:20:09,167 --> 00:20:10,627 ‎也不要处在一个空间 399 00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:13,129 ‎男女两个人 400 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:15,257 ‎都不允许直接联系 401 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:16,299 ‎有什么办法沟通? 402 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,718 ‎要通过自己的姐姐或妹妹 403 00:20:19,594 --> 00:20:21,846 ‎这些人 404 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:23,473 ‎把话转达过去 405 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:25,684 ‎比如拿我自己举例 406 00:20:26,268 --> 00:20:28,436 ‎我妹妹帮我传话 407 00:20:28,937 --> 00:20:31,231 ‎而那位女性再把回答告诉我妹妹 408 00:20:31,314 --> 00:20:32,649 ‎我妹妹再告诉我 409 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:38,905 ‎2010年发生过悔改信事件 410 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,242 ‎他说自己发现圣徒们犯了太多罪过 411 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,369 ‎圣徒们之前的生活太肮脏了 412 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:47,497 ‎没想到在我们的圣徒当中 413 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,667 ‎会有犯下这种罪的人 414 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,711 ‎我真是万万没想到 415 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:54,879 ‎追求情欲 搞淫乱行为 416 00:20:54,963 --> 00:20:57,924 ‎做尽了可憎的勾当 417 00:20:58,008 --> 00:21:00,844 ‎把自己之前的罪过写信给李载禄 418 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:03,555 ‎就能得到宽恕 419 00:21:03,638 --> 00:21:05,724 ‎牧羊人如此含泪呐喊 420 00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:17,986 ‎我呐喊、再呐喊 ‎哪怕能拯救一个灵魂不掉进地狱深渊 421 00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:23,491 ‎但我还是没想到 422 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:32,042 ‎带着这般痛苦度日是如此辛苦 423 00:21:33,209 --> 00:21:35,253 ‎天父啊 希望您能怜悯他们 424 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,088 ‎宽恕他们 425 00:21:38,048 --> 00:21:39,591 ‎您的儿子在此请求您 426 00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:47,015 ‎在此恳求您 427 00:21:51,061 --> 00:21:53,104 ‎他让我们说出 ‎自己所有见不得人的过去 428 00:21:53,146 --> 00:21:53,980 ‎(悔改信箱) 429 00:21:54,606 --> 00:21:57,525 ‎我们不得不回想七岁时候牵手的事 430 00:21:58,401 --> 00:22:01,112 ‎二十几岁时跟某个前辈干了什么 431 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,660 ‎“我有没有跟后辈发生过什么?” ‎要一一想出来 编出点什么 432 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,120 ‎当时只能这样 433 00:22:09,829 --> 00:22:12,040 ‎每个人都着手写悔改信 434 00:22:12,582 --> 00:22:16,044 ‎后来演变为所有圣徒必须参与的部分 435 00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:17,212 ‎如果不写悔改信 436 00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:19,881 ‎就会觉得自己不会被救赎 437 00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:22,675 ‎感觉站在悬崖边 438 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:24,594 ‎这么做的各位 439 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:27,931 ‎现在仍给自己找来死亡 ‎仍在犯罪的人们 440 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:30,683 ‎难道你们就不心疼你们的牧羊人吗? 441 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:32,894 ‎难道你们不信吗? 442 00:22:33,478 --> 00:22:36,481 ‎你们犯了死罪 就真的会死的 443 00:22:36,564 --> 00:22:39,150 ‎不存在圣经上的救赎那回事 444 00:22:40,151 --> 00:22:41,778 ‎唉 编导 可是 445 00:22:42,487 --> 00:22:43,905 ‎这话我真的不好讲 446 00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:46,825 ‎说出来怕给人家带来伤害 447 00:22:46,908 --> 00:22:48,952 ‎他们家人还是深陷痛苦当中 448 00:22:51,287 --> 00:22:52,956 ‎那位大哥… 449 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,041 ‎(李天熙 万民中央教会 退教者) 450 00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:59,587 ‎…原来是个自由自在的人 ‎也经常谈恋爱 451 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:03,800 ‎也喜欢跟很多人相处 452 00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:10,557 ‎(该资料画面跟实际人物无关) 453 00:23:15,353 --> 00:23:16,646 ‎他有几起 454 00:23:17,272 --> 00:23:19,941 ‎和异性之间的问题 455 00:23:20,024 --> 00:23:23,695 ‎之后李载禄知道了这件事 456 00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:25,780 ‎之后 457 00:23:25,864 --> 00:23:28,741 ‎这一点被说成一大障碍 458 00:23:28,825 --> 00:23:30,118 ‎说是这样下去不能被救赎 459 00:23:30,201 --> 00:23:31,786 ‎简单来说 就是“肉体的事” 460 00:23:32,662 --> 00:23:34,497 ‎然后把那个部位剪掉了 461 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,501 ‎把他的性器官剪掉了 462 00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:42,255 ‎之后他在生理上、身体上发生了变化 463 00:23:42,338 --> 00:23:44,215 ‎他逐渐变得女性化 464 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:46,384 ‎他之前热爱运动 也当保镖 465 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,678 ‎后来渐渐变得矮小 466 00:23:49,637 --> 00:23:51,681 ‎肌肉也没了 也不长胡子 467 00:23:53,057 --> 00:23:56,394 ‎这简直不可思议 ‎按照常识 根本无法理解 468 00:23:56,978 --> 00:23:59,022 ‎这样的人不是一个 也不是两个 469 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:02,525 ‎光我知道的就有十几个人 470 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:07,155 ‎他们盲目相信这么做是对的 471 00:24:07,906 --> 00:24:09,991 ‎哪有人剪掉那个呀?但他们真剪掉了 472 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:12,452 ‎我也是打听了一下 473 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:17,373 ‎见我在打听 他们就告诉我 474 00:24:17,457 --> 00:24:19,834 ‎江原道某处 花多少能搞定 475 00:24:20,418 --> 00:24:21,252 ‎是非法的 476 00:24:22,003 --> 00:24:24,714 ‎据说 手术三天后就能正常活动 ‎三天或五天 477 00:24:25,256 --> 00:24:26,341 ‎他们说不是很难熬 478 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:34,140 ‎如果跟艺能委员会的人谈了恋爱 479 00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:38,478 ‎李载禄对这种情况尤其敏感 480 00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:45,193 ‎万民教会有很多漂亮姐姐 481 00:24:45,276 --> 00:24:48,279 ‎他好像把她们都看作自己的女人 482 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:53,368 ‎但凡其中有姐姐跟男人交往过 483 00:24:53,451 --> 00:24:56,371 ‎他就认为她们被污染了、被弄脏了 484 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:59,040 ‎因为他觉得她们都应该属于他 485 00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:00,959 ‎不能被其他男人染指 486 00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:13,972 ‎首尔万民中央教会李载禄牧师 487 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,932 ‎因涉嫌性侵九名女信徒… 488 00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:17,392 ‎警方认为 489 00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:18,309 ‎(万民教会李载禄牧师 ‎习惯性性侵信徒证词不断) 490 00:25:18,393 --> 00:25:20,562 ‎这是持续很长时间的习惯性性暴力 491 00:25:20,645 --> 00:25:22,146 ‎(李载禄牧师涉嫌连环性侵信徒) 492 00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:26,276 ‎您干脆否认了嫌疑 ‎您是否认发生过性关系吗? 493 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,193 ‎(2018年4月26日第一次传唤调查) 494 00:25:27,277 --> 00:25:30,280 ‎危险 稍微让一下 现在他走路有点… 495 00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:32,031 ‎-您否认发生过关系吗? ‎-他受伤了 496 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:33,700 ‎所以各位请回吧 497 00:25:33,783 --> 00:25:35,577 ‎您否认发生过关系吗? 498 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:37,328 ‎还是否认实施过性暴力? 499 00:25:37,412 --> 00:25:39,163 ‎-等一下 ‎-都否认了 500 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:41,374 ‎那您为什么半夜叫来女信徒们? 501 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,960 ‎她们说您要求性关系让她们很反感 502 00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:45,461 ‎您为什么半夜叫她们过来? 503 00:25:45,545 --> 00:25:46,838 ‎我没有 504 00:25:46,921 --> 00:25:48,339 ‎-根本没有过那种事吗? ‎-是 505 00:25:48,423 --> 00:25:50,133 ‎-您向受害者… ‎-崔记者 等一下 506 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:51,926 ‎您不想对受害者道歉吗? 507 00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:52,885 ‎崔记者 508 00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:54,721 ‎崔记者 等一下 509 00:25:58,766 --> 00:25:59,976 ‎小心腿 510 00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:05,565 ‎这简直是无法相信的事 511 00:26:05,648 --> 00:26:06,566 ‎真的难以置信 512 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:09,193 ‎“哪有这种邪门的事?” 513 00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:10,653 ‎简直无法相信 514 00:26:10,737 --> 00:26:14,032 ‎谁会想到他是性罪犯? 515 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:16,159 ‎我以为都是谣言 516 00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:18,536 ‎万民中央教会和圣徒们 517 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:22,457 ‎不承认李载禄牧师的性侵嫌疑 518 00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:26,461 ‎他们相信会澄清他的性侵嫌疑 ‎并等待他被洗清罪名 519 00:26:27,211 --> 00:26:30,923 ‎第一 立即停止虚假作证 520 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:34,260 ‎立即停止! 521 00:26:34,344 --> 00:26:38,514 ‎牧羊人的清白 万人可作证! 522 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:40,099 ‎可作证! 523 00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:41,517 ‎(牧师 我们爱您!) 524 00:26:41,601 --> 00:26:43,019 ‎当我们开始采访的时候 525 00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:45,188 ‎(李文炫记者 MBC 社会部 ‎2018年采访万民中央教会) 526 00:26:45,271 --> 00:26:48,483 ‎我只把他看作是 ‎邪教组织的首领之类的 527 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,904 ‎没想到他犯了这么大的罪行 528 00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:54,739 ‎根本没想到 529 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:57,784 ‎因涉嫌性侵信徒而接受调查的 530 00:26:57,867 --> 00:27:00,370 ‎万民中央教会李载禄牧师 531 00:27:00,453 --> 00:27:02,455 ‎今天又有一位受害女性 532 00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:04,666 ‎提出了诉讼 533 00:27:04,749 --> 00:27:05,917 ‎李文炫记者现场报道 534 00:27:07,001 --> 00:27:10,296 ‎据说被 ‎万民中央教会李载禄牧师性侵的… 535 00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,465 ‎受害女性 536 00:27:13,174 --> 00:27:16,344 ‎在该教会的青年信徒当中 537 00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:19,222 ‎也担任过管理人 538 00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,473 ‎(万民中央教会) 539 00:27:20,556 --> 00:27:23,559 ‎那位女性收集的证据 540 00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:26,979 ‎她和李载禄一起拍的照片 541 00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:32,777 ‎目前为止 我所学到的是 542 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:36,364 ‎善、真实、爱 543 00:27:36,906 --> 00:27:38,408 ‎我很喜欢这种感觉 544 00:27:40,743 --> 00:27:45,623 ‎她最近一次被李载禄性侵的日子 545 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:48,501 ‎还有地点 她都能详细描述 546 00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:51,754 ‎这些细节只有当事人才能说出 547 00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:54,507 ‎所以我认为她的陈述是可信的 548 00:27:58,761 --> 00:28:01,264 ‎她说在2011年 549 00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:04,267 ‎第一次接到了李载禄的电话 550 00:28:11,649 --> 00:28:12,859 ‎嗯 好 551 00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:17,405 ‎她说当时很高兴 552 00:28:17,488 --> 00:28:19,574 ‎她是拥有母胎信仰的人 553 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:24,162 ‎她恭为神、恭为绝对善的存在 554 00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:27,331 ‎这么高贵的人给自己打了电话 555 00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:29,417 ‎(性受害女性证词) 556 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,336 ‎“他是要跟我单独谈信仰尺度吗? 557 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:37,008 ‎还是想给我特别的使命或职责呢?” 558 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:50,062 ‎“嗯 到这边的公寓来吧 559 00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:52,148 ‎这地方没人知道 560 00:28:52,648 --> 00:28:54,609 ‎你来的时候不要告诉任何人” 561 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:02,658 ‎我当时打车去的 562 00:29:03,409 --> 00:29:05,161 ‎他很谨慎 563 00:29:05,244 --> 00:29:07,705 ‎叫我不要刷卡付车费 得用现金 564 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:20,927 ‎为了给李载禄牧师证明自己的信仰 565 00:29:21,427 --> 00:29:23,179 ‎把攒下来的积蓄提现 566 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:26,098 ‎装在信封里 567 00:29:26,182 --> 00:29:27,642 ‎然后换了一套 568 00:29:27,725 --> 00:29:29,852 ‎自己最干净洁白的衣服 569 00:29:30,728 --> 00:29:34,106 ‎按门铃的时候 我非常紧张 570 00:29:36,776 --> 00:29:38,361 ‎我去的时候还在祈祷 571 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:41,572 ‎他探出头给我开门的样子 572 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:43,574 ‎让我大吃一惊 573 00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:50,164 ‎一进门就看到客厅放着很大的床垫 574 00:30:24,574 --> 00:30:28,077 ‎受害过程简直一模一样 575 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,496 ‎突然邀约到家里来 576 00:30:36,794 --> 00:30:37,795 ‎“我是神 577 00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:42,008 ‎所以在这里发生的一切 ‎都不会成为问题” 578 00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:44,343 ‎要么就说:“这里是伊甸园 579 00:30:44,427 --> 00:30:46,888 ‎所以不能穿衣服” 580 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:49,390 ‎他跟受害者们说这种话 581 00:30:49,473 --> 00:30:51,517 ‎此外还叫人惋惜的是 582 00:30:52,101 --> 00:30:55,688 ‎那些受害者不明白自己遭受了什么 583 00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:58,566 ‎我心里很乱 584 00:30:58,649 --> 00:31:00,860 ‎(性受害者女性证词) 585 00:31:00,943 --> 00:31:01,777 ‎“这算什么呢? 586 00:31:02,528 --> 00:31:04,697 ‎没有罪的人就可以这样吗? 587 00:31:05,281 --> 00:31:07,617 ‎这是怎么回事?怎么解释?” 588 00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:12,496 ‎“原来是为了不让我被其他男人占有 589 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:15,583 ‎所以给我恩赐 只给天父看一下吧” 590 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,128 ‎我祈祷了差不多一个月 591 00:31:19,712 --> 00:31:22,381 ‎就当一切是上帝的恩赐 592 00:31:22,465 --> 00:31:24,842 ‎试着接受这一切 593 00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:49,659 ‎其实不是神 是恶魔 594 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,747 ‎“只要抚摸我的身体 你们就能治愈 595 00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:57,833 ‎你们就算是和神在一起了 596 00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:00,753 ‎你们能得到救赎 能上天堂了” 597 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:02,588 ‎简直是披着羊皮的狼 598 00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:10,012 ‎(性受害者女性的证词) 599 00:32:10,096 --> 00:32:11,097 ‎他突然解开内衣 600 00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:15,393 ‎身手熟练 吓了我一跳 601 00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:17,561 ‎“郑慧的下体属于谁?” 602 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:21,857 ‎他非常仔细地观察那个部位 603 00:32:23,192 --> 00:32:24,652 ‎就是仔细盯着看 604 00:32:28,072 --> 00:32:31,367 ‎他把我的脸凑到自己的生殖器前 605 00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:34,787 ‎又说我做得不对 606 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:36,288 ‎说碰到牙齿会疼 607 00:32:38,374 --> 00:32:39,917 ‎发生关系的过程中 608 00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:42,962 ‎他一直问我爽不爽 609 00:32:43,045 --> 00:32:44,964 ‎他一直叫我发出声音 610 00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:47,133 ‎“爽吗?爽不爽?” 611 00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:50,761 ‎当着很多人的面 612 00:32:50,845 --> 00:32:53,222 ‎我们看着他跟我的朋友发生关系 613 00:33:01,689 --> 00:33:05,317 ‎他还说我们太不会了 ‎让我们看点黄片练习 614 00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:08,696 ‎接着他的秘书给我们放黄片 615 00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:11,240 ‎电视机上发出呻吟声 616 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:15,453 ‎(该资料画面和实际人物无关) 617 00:33:17,288 --> 00:33:18,831 ‎那些姐姐都很漂亮 618 00:33:19,457 --> 00:33:20,458 ‎她们几乎都是 619 00:33:20,541 --> 00:33:23,252 ‎像我一样 拥有母胎信仰 620 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:25,546 ‎我们很单纯 621 00:33:25,629 --> 00:33:27,465 ‎我们没有被男人染指 622 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,761 ‎性侵发生之后 623 00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:35,931 ‎他给我们一人300万韩元左右的钱 624 00:33:36,015 --> 00:33:40,144 ‎她们突然有辆好车 住好房子 625 00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:41,854 ‎接连发生这种事 626 00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:44,940 ‎“她们到底哪来的钱 ‎买了那些东西?” 627 00:33:46,484 --> 00:33:47,860 ‎(性受害者女性的证词) 628 00:33:47,943 --> 00:33:51,322 ‎他递给我装着100万韩元现金的信封 629 00:33:51,947 --> 00:33:55,743 ‎我收到了200万到300万 630 00:33:57,411 --> 00:33:59,413 ‎白色信封 631 00:33:59,497 --> 00:34:01,999 ‎上面用绿色笔写着500 632 00:34:04,085 --> 00:34:05,836 ‎他给我600万 633 00:34:06,837 --> 00:34:08,631 ‎圣徒们送礼的钱 634 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:10,549 ‎从那里分给我们 635 00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:12,301 ‎200万、300万左右 636 00:34:12,885 --> 00:34:14,678 ‎对的时候给500万 637 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,764 ‎还有什一奉献的钱 638 00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:19,100 ‎我收到那些钱 像其他人一样 639 00:34:19,183 --> 00:34:21,519 ‎也原封不动地交出去过 640 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:23,979 ‎“这么贵重的钱 怎么处理好?” 641 00:34:24,063 --> 00:34:28,234 ‎舍不得用 觉得不可以用 642 00:34:28,317 --> 00:34:29,985 ‎所以都捐给教会了 643 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:32,196 ‎然后在教会内部 644 00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:34,323 ‎信仰的尺度就突然变高了 645 00:34:34,865 --> 00:34:38,244 ‎在艺能委员会有很多灵 646 00:34:38,327 --> 00:34:40,788 ‎大概有二、三十名 647 00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:45,334 ‎这些都紧密相连 648 00:34:46,043 --> 00:34:47,795 ‎我们要提升灵的尺度 649 00:34:47,878 --> 00:34:51,006 ‎为了提升还要陪睡 650 00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:53,384 ‎但是对于受害者来说 651 00:34:53,467 --> 00:34:55,719 ‎二次加害也在接连不断地发生 652 00:34:55,803 --> 00:35:00,141 ‎我们绝不和他们妥协 653 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:01,809 ‎(牧师 我们爱您 停止虚假证词) 654 00:35:01,892 --> 00:35:03,519 ‎亲爱的牧师! 655 00:35:04,061 --> 00:35:06,188 ‎有我们在! 656 00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:08,023 ‎您加油吧! 657 00:35:08,107 --> 00:35:10,985 ‎我们爱您! 658 00:35:11,986 --> 00:35:15,823 ‎我们眼中的牧师数十年如一日 659 00:35:15,906 --> 00:35:18,325 ‎他总是仁慈 充满爱心 660 00:35:18,826 --> 00:35:20,786 ‎与圣徒们同甘共苦 661 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:22,997 ‎因为他一直有这种形象 662 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,542 ‎所以大家认为退教的女人 ‎都是行为不检点的人 663 00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:29,003 ‎以为她们本来就乱搞男女关系 664 00:35:29,086 --> 00:35:31,422 ‎在教会内部流传了这种话 665 00:35:31,505 --> 00:35:33,215 ‎(我是善良的牧羊人 ‎不惜为羔羊牺牲) 666 00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:35,968 ‎“她们都是非常不道德 667 00:35:37,011 --> 00:35:38,512 ‎行为不检点的人们” 668 00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:43,309 ‎他这样暗地制造谣言 669 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:50,649 ‎很多人知道这事 670 00:35:51,442 --> 00:35:55,196 ‎但他还在教会 671 00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,949 ‎因为他是圣灵 672 00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:02,328 ‎“圣灵做的事 673 00:36:02,411 --> 00:36:04,663 ‎不由人来判断” 674 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,918 ‎哪怕有一两个站出来 675 00:36:09,418 --> 00:36:12,546 ‎指出事实真相 676 00:36:13,255 --> 00:36:16,759 ‎这几十年来就不会发生同样的事了 677 00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:22,097 ‎承认性侵过吗?您为什么这么做? 678 00:36:22,181 --> 00:36:23,015 ‎(2018年4月29日 第二次传唤调查) 679 00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:24,767 ‎-您不承认吗? ‎-还不承认吗? 680 00:36:24,850 --> 00:36:25,935 ‎您去哪里? 681 00:36:26,018 --> 00:36:27,186 ‎为什么叫信徒们过去? 682 00:36:27,978 --> 00:36:29,813 ‎方背洞的公寓您还记得吗? 683 00:36:29,897 --> 00:36:33,359 ‎我记得当时我们质问他到电梯口 684 00:36:33,442 --> 00:36:34,610 ‎当时李载禄 685 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:37,196 ‎不说一句关于自己的话 686 00:36:37,738 --> 00:36:40,115 ‎而且他周围的人们 687 00:36:40,658 --> 00:36:43,452 ‎忙着甩开我们记者 688 00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:46,330 ‎记得当时他们的态度非常无耻 689 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:47,373 ‎对不起 690 00:36:48,457 --> 00:36:50,042 ‎为什么大晚上10点叫人过去? 691 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:51,919 ‎记得4月12日发生的事吗? 692 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:57,299 ‎(涉嫌性侵信徒) 693 00:36:57,383 --> 00:37:00,636 ‎(李载禄牧师 ‎第二次被警察传唤接受调查) 694 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,138 ‎之后接受检察官调查的时候 695 00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:05,474 ‎他依然否认自己的罪行 696 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:09,812 ‎甚至在判决时也否认 697 00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:11,480 ‎不是自己做的 698 00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:14,817 ‎他聘请了非常贵的律师 699 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,279 ‎坚持自己无罪 但是… 700 00:37:18,362 --> 00:37:21,824 ‎当时有一个契机 让万民教会瓦解 701 00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:24,243 ‎当时流传着某个姐妹的文档 702 00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:26,495 ‎这个姐妹就是 703 00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:29,164 ‎当时在教会最活跃的人 704 00:37:29,248 --> 00:37:32,334 ‎这位姐妹拥有 705 00:37:32,418 --> 00:37:34,378 ‎跟自己朋友对话的录音 706 00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:36,255 ‎关于和李载禄发生关系一事 707 00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,758 ‎里面提到“感到是理所应当 ‎反而觉得是荣幸” 708 00:37:42,011 --> 00:37:43,971 ‎(2018年PD手册采访 ‎性受害者提供) 709 00:37:44,054 --> 00:37:45,639 ‎因为他是圣灵 就可以逼迫 710 00:37:45,723 --> 00:37:48,183 ‎不情愿发生关系的女人吗? 711 00:37:48,267 --> 00:37:50,060 ‎她们认为这是一种荣幸? 712 00:37:50,144 --> 00:37:50,978 ‎嗯 713 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,022 ‎-那无条件顺从吗? ‎-嗯 714 00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:55,274 ‎没什么好奇怪的 715 00:37:55,357 --> 00:37:56,775 ‎为什么呢? 716 00:37:56,859 --> 00:37:58,736 ‎他跟女人们提出发生关系 717 00:37:58,819 --> 00:38:00,738 ‎就得服从吗? 718 00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:02,740 ‎牧师不是普通人类 719 00:38:03,741 --> 00:38:05,075 ‎那么做就能解决一切 720 00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:08,245 ‎天父说不是罪 那就不是罪 721 00:38:09,038 --> 00:38:10,664 ‎听到这段录音 我就想 722 00:38:10,748 --> 00:38:12,624 ‎“啊 原来这都是真的” 723 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:16,378 ‎我坚守了21年的信仰 ‎在两小时内崩塌了 724 00:38:17,087 --> 00:38:21,425 ‎21年来的信仰崩塌是什么感受? 725 00:38:32,895 --> 00:38:36,148 ‎当时的心情是… 726 00:38:38,192 --> 00:38:40,694 ‎真的感觉头上 727 00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:43,280 ‎砸落了一吨铁棍 728 00:38:44,198 --> 00:38:45,949 ‎大脑停止运作的感觉 729 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:48,410 ‎一整天 我什么都干不了 730 00:38:48,494 --> 00:38:50,371 ‎太受冲击了 731 00:38:51,455 --> 00:38:52,915 ‎简直无法想象 732 00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:57,586 ‎没想到上帝会做这种事 733 00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:58,504 ‎“啊?” 734 00:38:59,004 --> 00:38:59,838 ‎我简直… 735 00:39:01,757 --> 00:39:04,343 ‎感觉被扔了一颗炸弹 736 00:39:04,927 --> 00:39:08,597 ‎李载禄和那些孩子的年龄差距 737 00:39:09,181 --> 00:39:10,933 ‎超过50岁 738 00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:13,936 ‎也不是不认识的孩子们 739 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,563 ‎她们的妈妈来教会的时候 740 00:39:16,647 --> 00:39:19,566 ‎她们才开始学会走路 741 00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:23,529 ‎她们的妈妈 ‎当时背着她们来教会接受祈祷 742 00:39:23,612 --> 00:39:27,324 ‎他竟然对她们下手? 743 00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:31,161 ‎我刚开始差点骂出脏话 744 00:39:31,954 --> 00:39:35,040 ‎从十几岁开始培养到二十来岁 745 00:39:35,666 --> 00:39:37,376 ‎才二十出头的年纪 746 00:39:37,459 --> 00:39:39,461 ‎对那些孩子做出这种事 747 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:43,298 ‎超过七十几岁的老人 怎么能这样? 748 00:39:43,382 --> 00:39:45,300 ‎变态?色魔? 749 00:39:46,009 --> 00:39:48,345 ‎我想过换作是我 我会怎么做 750 00:39:48,429 --> 00:39:51,056 ‎如果牧师打电话过来 叫我过去 751 00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:54,601 ‎如果他跟我说 像伊甸园的夏娃一样 752 00:39:54,685 --> 00:39:55,936 ‎脱掉衣服 753 00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:59,481 ‎虽然这话听起来让人震惊 ‎但估计我也会顺从 754 00:40:00,816 --> 00:40:03,902 ‎我真的爱你 我真的从灵魂上爱你 755 00:40:03,986 --> 00:40:04,820 ‎(2018年 ‎PD手册采访当时性受害者提供) 756 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:08,574 ‎肉体是肉体 我是灵魂上爱你 757 00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:10,200 ‎我知道 758 00:40:10,784 --> 00:40:13,162 ‎那你还说你不喜欢肉体的爱 759 00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:15,664 ‎我根本不在乎肉体的爱 760 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:16,790 ‎是 761 00:40:16,874 --> 00:40:18,959 ‎我不爱的话 根本不会叫你来 762 00:40:20,252 --> 00:40:22,045 ‎我爱你不是因为那种事 763 00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:24,465 ‎是 764 00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:26,049 ‎好 765 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:28,927 ‎早上再见吧 766 00:40:29,553 --> 00:40:31,430 ‎好 谢谢 767 00:40:31,513 --> 00:40:32,347 ‎嗯 768 00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,224 ‎我爱你 再见 769 00:40:34,308 --> 00:40:35,684 ‎好 再见 770 00:40:42,024 --> 00:40:44,526 ‎2018年5月3日 771 00:40:45,277 --> 00:40:47,029 ‎他们供奉为神的存在 772 00:40:48,322 --> 00:40:49,531 ‎突然没落了 773 00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:02,878 ‎有我们在 您加油吧 774 00:41:05,881 --> 00:41:07,591 ‎(2018年5月3日 李载禄被捕) 775 00:41:07,674 --> 00:41:08,634 ‎您承认罪行吗? 776 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:11,220 ‎您依然否认自己的罪行吗? 777 00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:13,764 ‎您昨天在祈祷会说 778 00:41:13,847 --> 00:41:16,391 ‎不用怕警察和检察官是什么意思? 779 00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:19,269 ‎因涉嫌习惯性性侵信徒 780 00:41:19,353 --> 00:41:20,187 ‎(习惯性性侵信徒 ‎李载禄牧师被捕) 781 00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:23,524 ‎万民中央圣洁教会李载禄牧师已被捕 782 00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:45,629 ‎被逮捕的那天 783 00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:47,923 ‎天上突然下冰雹 784 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,425 ‎他们就说上帝怒了 785 00:41:52,052 --> 00:41:55,389 ‎万民中央教会内部 ‎将此事件称为冰雹事件 786 00:41:56,223 --> 00:41:57,599 ‎说那就是苦难时刻 787 00:41:57,683 --> 00:42:00,185 ‎全体圣徒哭天喊地 788 00:42:00,269 --> 00:42:03,689 ‎(万民中央教会) 789 00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:08,652 ‎要求明确公开! 790 00:42:08,735 --> 00:42:11,363 ‎要求公开! 791 00:42:11,446 --> 00:42:12,781 ‎(牧师不该被判15年!) 792 00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:16,785 ‎(李载禄牧师是冤枉的) 793 00:42:18,996 --> 00:42:22,374 ‎(要求使用测谎仪) 794 00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:24,459 ‎(护送) 795 00:42:25,502 --> 00:42:26,712 ‎最前面? 796 00:42:27,546 --> 00:42:28,589 ‎最前面 797 00:42:29,548 --> 00:42:30,716 ‎3114? 798 00:42:30,799 --> 00:42:32,676 ‎有很多人第一次看到他那个样子 799 00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:35,596 ‎满头白发 很怯懦的样子 800 00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:36,930 ‎走路小心翼翼 801 00:42:38,181 --> 00:42:39,474 ‎从护送车下来 802 00:42:39,558 --> 00:42:41,351 ‎到处看人眼色 803 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:45,105 ‎“李载禄是神 不长白头发 804 00:42:45,689 --> 00:42:48,567 ‎所以上了岁数也是一头黑发” 805 00:42:52,863 --> 00:42:54,865 ‎那天就是一副普通老头的样子 806 00:43:00,537 --> 00:43:07,502 ‎(被告李载禄被判16年) 807 00:43:11,006 --> 00:43:12,674 ‎(2018年1月18日 ‎PD手册节目组拍摄) 808 00:43:12,758 --> 00:43:14,843 ‎各位 我们将此存在心底 向我们牧师 809 00:43:14,926 --> 00:43:16,720 ‎拜新年礼吧 810 00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:18,805 ‎新年快乐 鞠躬 811 00:43:19,389 --> 00:43:22,851 ‎新年快乐 812 00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:28,649 ‎(部分万民教徒 ‎仍在等待李载禄牧师) 813 00:43:28,732 --> 00:43:32,277 ‎牧师! 814 00:43:32,361 --> 00:43:35,781 ‎我们思念您! 815 00:43:35,864 --> 00:43:37,866 ‎快点出来吧 816 00:43:39,576 --> 00:43:40,827 ‎我目前在首尔南部拘留所 817 00:43:40,911 --> 00:43:42,454 ‎(李光五 首尔南部拘留所 ‎劳改委员会) 818 00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:45,207 ‎劳改协会担任局长 819 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:46,625 ‎在监狱 820 00:43:47,959 --> 00:43:49,544 ‎我还有点权力 821 00:43:52,798 --> 00:43:54,800 ‎2021年3月 822 00:43:55,384 --> 00:43:57,552 ‎我去了一趟大邱拘留所 823 00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:03,100 ‎我有点好奇 824 00:44:03,183 --> 00:44:05,977 ‎当时骗了我们的人 现在怎么样了 825 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:10,273 ‎我往里面探 看到他了 “喂 李载禄” 826 00:44:12,234 --> 00:44:13,527 ‎他就这么看着我 827 00:44:14,361 --> 00:44:15,946 ‎您想想我当时那么叫他 828 00:44:16,029 --> 00:44:18,323 ‎心脏跳得多厉害 829 00:44:21,785 --> 00:44:24,579 ‎“你好好做人 你不害怕上帝吗?” 830 00:44:25,122 --> 00:44:27,290 ‎真想冲他这么说 831 00:44:30,252 --> 00:44:31,461 ‎但他认不出我 832 00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:36,007 ‎而且在里面 他还当头 833 00:44:36,925 --> 00:44:39,928 ‎他的领置金一直是500万元 最高额度 834 00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:43,473 ‎他在里面吃好喝好 835 00:44:47,227 --> 00:44:49,146 ‎(本纪录片中所有采访 ‎照搬了原有证词) 836 00:44:49,229 --> 00:44:51,064 ‎(为保护受害人 ‎部分内容用演员代演) 837 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:17,048 ‎字幕翻译:Rita Huang