1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:25,646 --> 00:00:26,543 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING] 4 00:00:30,133 --> 00:00:31,617 RON JAMES: I'm sitting in these rooms alone 5 00:00:31,652 --> 00:00:34,103 with people who have run secret weapons programs, 6 00:00:34,137 --> 00:00:35,794 interrogated terrorists, 7 00:00:35,828 --> 00:00:38,900 protected closely-guarded secrets as a profession, 8 00:00:38,935 --> 00:00:40,419 and all I can think about 9 00:00:40,454 --> 00:00:42,249 is getting them to tell me something 10 00:00:42,283 --> 00:00:43,871 they don't want me to know. 11 00:00:45,493 --> 00:00:46,977 [EERIE MUSIC PLAYING] 12 00:00:53,777 --> 00:00:56,366 It's gonna take somebody at the executive level to do it, 13 00:00:56,401 --> 00:00:58,713 or there's gonna be 14 00:00:58,748 --> 00:01:03,235 a incredible leak somewhere that's somebody's conscience, 15 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:05,065 and they don't end up, um, 16 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:08,792 you know, committing suicide by 12 bullet holes 17 00:01:08,827 --> 00:01:10,518 to the back of the head kind of thing. 18 00:01:11,209 --> 00:01:12,417 [CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING] 19 00:01:12,451 --> 00:01:15,351 NARRATOR: The UFO reality can no longer be denied. 20 00:01:15,385 --> 00:01:17,215 The secret has been managed and guarded 21 00:01:17,249 --> 00:01:20,287 by a select few for over 75 years. 22 00:01:20,321 --> 00:01:21,874 Advanced technology, 23 00:01:21,908 --> 00:01:25,257 biological and physical materials have been recovered. 24 00:01:25,292 --> 00:01:28,709 They've been secretly studied by compartmentalized factions 25 00:01:28,743 --> 00:01:31,332 within both government and industry. 26 00:01:31,367 --> 00:01:33,438 These claims are not new. 27 00:01:33,472 --> 00:01:36,303 But you are about to see undeniable evidence 28 00:01:36,337 --> 00:01:38,512 and previously unpublished accounts 29 00:01:38,545 --> 00:01:41,929 that make this case stronger than ever before. 30 00:01:42,895 --> 00:01:45,622 Somewhere between fact and denial, 31 00:01:45,657 --> 00:01:47,969 you are about to discover 32 00:01:48,003 --> 00:01:49,626 an accidental truth. 33 00:01:49,661 --> 00:01:50,558 [RADIO STATIC BUZZING] 34 00:01:51,801 --> 00:01:54,009 MAN 1 OVER RADIO: 3-7-8-2-0-5-8-4. 35 00:01:54,976 --> 00:01:56,116 MAN 2: Knees up. Knees up. 36 00:01:56,150 --> 00:01:57,462 [HELICOPTER HOVERING] 37 00:01:57,496 --> 00:01:58,911 [FIRE CRACKLING] 38 00:02:02,432 --> 00:02:04,054 [PEOPLE CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY] 39 00:02:11,476 --> 00:02:12,891 NARRATOR: In 2017, 40 00:02:12,925 --> 00:02:16,239 the UFO subject exploded into the mainstream. 41 00:02:16,274 --> 00:02:18,483 PILOT 1: There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the S.A. 42 00:02:18,517 --> 00:02:20,347 PILOT 2: Whoa! Got him! 43 00:02:20,381 --> 00:02:22,901 [BOTH LAUGHING AND WHOOPING] 44 00:02:22,935 --> 00:02:25,041 NARRATOR: The New York Times broke a front page story 45 00:02:25,075 --> 00:02:28,803 about a shadowy government program studying UFOs. 46 00:02:28,838 --> 00:02:30,633 October 2017. 47 00:02:30,667 --> 00:02:34,740 Leslie Kean, who's a notable expert on UFOs 48 00:02:34,775 --> 00:02:38,227 she was invited to a very private conference in Washington 49 00:02:38,261 --> 00:02:41,402 with Lue Elizondo and some other people, 50 00:02:41,437 --> 00:02:45,613 Chris Mellon, to discuss UFOs. 51 00:02:45,648 --> 00:02:50,860 Lue Elizondo had just submitted his resignation in October 2017, 52 00:02:50,894 --> 00:02:55,623 as the head of this very secretive Pentagon UFO office. 53 00:02:55,658 --> 00:02:57,107 Program was established. 54 00:02:57,142 --> 00:02:59,109 It was initially called AAWSAP, 55 00:02:59,144 --> 00:03:02,699 Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program, 56 00:03:02,734 --> 00:03:06,013 and very quickly that evolved, 57 00:03:06,047 --> 00:03:09,292 morphed into the more common vernacular 58 00:03:09,327 --> 00:03:12,537 AATIP, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 59 00:03:12,571 --> 00:03:14,849 I was brought in initially to come in 60 00:03:14,884 --> 00:03:19,992 to run the counterintelligence and security piece for this effort in 2008. 61 00:03:20,027 --> 00:03:24,825 In 2010, I was asked by the former director to run this program. 62 00:03:24,859 --> 00:03:27,172 The program was then taken out of DIA 63 00:03:27,207 --> 00:03:28,587 and up to the OSD level, 64 00:03:28,622 --> 00:03:30,140 Office of Secretary of Defense. 65 00:03:30,175 --> 00:03:31,901 The Pentagon had this secret 66 00:03:31,935 --> 00:03:35,007 UFO monitoring agency which nobody knew about. 67 00:03:35,042 --> 00:03:38,977 New York Times, Politico, and followed by them, 68 00:03:39,011 --> 00:03:41,151 everyone else covering the UFO subject 69 00:03:41,186 --> 00:03:44,224 suddenly, with seriousness, 70 00:03:44,258 --> 00:03:47,882 suddenly talking about encounters by the U.S. Navy with 71 00:03:47,917 --> 00:03:50,299 objects that are supposed to be impossible. 72 00:03:50,333 --> 00:03:53,163 The government is investigating UFOs. 73 00:03:53,198 --> 00:03:55,649 Well, I almost crashed my car. 74 00:03:55,683 --> 00:03:57,720 NARRATOR: Three cryptic videos were released 75 00:03:57,754 --> 00:03:59,791 that claimed to show unknown objects 76 00:03:59,825 --> 00:04:02,034 operating in military airspace 77 00:04:02,069 --> 00:04:05,175 while defying known capabilities of flight 78 00:04:05,210 --> 00:04:06,625 and physics. 79 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:09,110 BLUMENTHAL: There are more of them that have not been released. 80 00:04:09,145 --> 00:04:11,251 These were only snippets, by the way, 81 00:04:11,285 --> 00:04:12,769 and we knew that. 82 00:04:12,804 --> 00:04:15,324 But we were happy to get them. 83 00:04:15,358 --> 00:04:17,567 And they caused quite a stir. 84 00:04:17,601 --> 00:04:22,089 NARRATOR: Lue Elizondo made the media rounds with shocking statements. 85 00:04:22,123 --> 00:04:23,470 My personal belief is that 86 00:04:23,504 --> 00:04:25,679 there is very compelling evidence that 87 00:04:25,713 --> 00:04:28,751 we may not be alone. 88 00:04:28,785 --> 00:04:32,444 Our cosmic neighborhood may be a hell of a lot bigger. 89 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:36,655 And by the way, we might, might, have neighbors. 90 00:04:38,347 --> 00:04:39,693 That's a profound moment. 91 00:04:40,625 --> 00:04:42,730 NARRATOR: At the 2018 symposium 92 00:04:42,765 --> 00:04:44,698 of The Mutual UFO Network, 93 00:04:44,732 --> 00:04:46,216 behind closed doors, 94 00:04:46,251 --> 00:04:49,392 he went beyond his public statements to drop a bombshell. 95 00:04:49,427 --> 00:04:51,705 Sometimes people may have associated you 96 00:04:51,739 --> 00:04:54,673 as being fringe or being out there, 97 00:04:54,707 --> 00:04:57,883 and all along, you were right. 98 00:05:00,817 --> 00:05:03,233 NARRATOR: One of the pilots who engaged the craft, 99 00:05:03,268 --> 00:05:04,476 Commander David Fravor, 100 00:05:04,511 --> 00:05:08,618 chimed in with bold statements inferring otherworldly origins 101 00:05:08,653 --> 00:05:10,413 of the mysterious phenomenon. 102 00:05:10,448 --> 00:05:13,382 I believe, as do the other folks that were on the flight, 103 00:05:13,416 --> 00:05:16,832 that what we visually saw, that it was something not from this world. 104 00:05:16,868 --> 00:05:20,250 You are talking to a pilot who is looking at you 105 00:05:20,285 --> 00:05:23,771 with complete bewilderment as to 106 00:05:23,806 --> 00:05:25,186 looking to you for answers. 107 00:05:25,221 --> 00:05:28,949 They're asking you, "Sir, what was this?" 108 00:05:28,983 --> 00:05:33,125 Congress is now looking at the possibility of national security 109 00:05:33,159 --> 00:05:37,544 that the military is now owning up to hours of videotapes 110 00:05:37,578 --> 00:05:39,822 taken by Navy pilots. 111 00:05:39,856 --> 00:05:41,582 There's been a sea change. 112 00:05:41,617 --> 00:05:43,722 Things are changing. 113 00:05:43,757 --> 00:05:45,724 People are more open to the idea that, 114 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:48,865 yeah, maybe we're not alone in the universe. 115 00:05:51,420 --> 00:05:55,182 NARRATOR: We were given an updated phrase to describe it all. 116 00:05:55,216 --> 00:05:58,116 Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. 117 00:05:58,150 --> 00:06:00,360 They're calling them UAPs sometimes. 118 00:06:00,394 --> 00:06:02,776 Sometimes UFO, sometimes UAP. 119 00:06:02,810 --> 00:06:05,330 It's a kind of a rebranding to a certain extent 120 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:09,023 and a redefinition of what the phenomenon is. 121 00:06:09,058 --> 00:06:13,994 NARRATOR: A new group called To The Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences was introduced. 122 00:06:14,028 --> 00:06:17,307 We are To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. 123 00:06:17,342 --> 00:06:19,171 A public benefit corporation. 124 00:06:19,206 --> 00:06:22,174 NARRATOR: The group was co-founded by rock star Tom DeLonge. 125 00:06:22,209 --> 00:06:24,211 I was working my way through NASA, 126 00:06:24,245 --> 00:06:25,902 the Department of Defense, 127 00:06:25,937 --> 00:06:28,629 and various "other" agencies. 128 00:06:28,664 --> 00:06:30,148 NARRATOR: Its members spoke out, 129 00:06:30,182 --> 00:06:32,012 hinting of unprecedented openness 130 00:06:32,046 --> 00:06:34,152 and straight answers about the topic. 131 00:06:34,186 --> 00:06:36,154 But who are these people really? 132 00:06:36,188 --> 00:06:40,054 Dr. Hal Puthoff, former CIA operations officer. 133 00:06:40,089 --> 00:06:46,509 Jim Semivan, a 50-year veteran of NASA, the CIA, and the National Security Agency. 134 00:06:46,544 --> 00:06:47,821 Steve Justice, 135 00:06:47,855 --> 00:06:50,479 former director of Lockheed Martin Skunk Works. 136 00:06:50,513 --> 00:06:55,207 Christopher Mellon, former Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence. 137 00:06:55,242 --> 00:06:56,381 Lue Elizondo, 138 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:59,177 fresh from a controversial Pentagon resignation. 139 00:06:59,211 --> 00:07:03,077 Was anybody going to share anything that brought us concrete answers? 140 00:07:03,112 --> 00:07:06,840 It was the first time I really digested the enormity 141 00:07:06,874 --> 00:07:10,395 of the national security implications of the UFO subject. 142 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:14,364 The CIA and all these people associated with Skunk Works 143 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:15,676 and other intelligence agencies, 144 00:07:15,711 --> 00:07:18,265 you're not the right people to come out with this. 145 00:07:18,299 --> 00:07:19,749 [CHUCKLES] You're really not. 146 00:07:19,784 --> 00:07:22,407 Because you're the ones that have been lying to us for 70 years. 147 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:28,171 We haven't trusted these individual agencies ever. 148 00:07:28,206 --> 00:07:32,659 In fact, they've always teased our community. 149 00:07:32,693 --> 00:07:35,351 We are dealing with insiders. 150 00:07:35,385 --> 00:07:39,873 We are dealing with people who have been in government, 151 00:07:39,907 --> 00:07:42,082 the military, the intelligence community, 152 00:07:42,116 --> 00:07:44,947 have access to classified information. 153 00:07:44,981 --> 00:07:46,949 But those people, all of them, 154 00:07:46,983 --> 00:07:48,778 will have to be very careful. 155 00:07:48,813 --> 00:07:53,680 For us to just go ahead and spew out to satisfy the idle curiosity of a few, 156 00:07:53,714 --> 00:07:54,922 that's not our job. 157 00:07:54,957 --> 00:07:57,235 Our job is to protect this nation from enemies, 158 00:07:57,269 --> 00:07:58,512 foreign and domestic. 159 00:07:58,547 --> 00:08:01,895 For what it's worth, I see it that they were trying to 160 00:08:01,929 --> 00:08:04,622 make progress on this within government, 161 00:08:04,656 --> 00:08:06,693 they took it as far as they could, 162 00:08:06,727 --> 00:08:07,935 and then they realized that, 163 00:08:07,970 --> 00:08:11,352 really, the only way to move it further forward 164 00:08:11,387 --> 00:08:14,321 was to leave government and do it outside of that. 165 00:08:17,289 --> 00:08:20,085 NARRATOR: Some believe that this new roll-out of information 166 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,294 was a cleverly crafted set of events 167 00:08:22,329 --> 00:08:24,745 being orchestrated by hidden hands. 168 00:08:24,780 --> 00:08:26,160 An evasive faction 169 00:08:26,195 --> 00:08:28,887 who has controlled this information for years. 170 00:08:28,922 --> 00:08:30,648 I'm not a believer in the conspiracy theory 171 00:08:30,682 --> 00:08:34,823 that this is some plot to leak it to The New York Times and all that. 172 00:08:34,859 --> 00:08:39,621 I mean, too many elements came together completely serendipitously. 173 00:08:39,657 --> 00:08:43,626 And, you know, looking back, 174 00:08:43,661 --> 00:08:45,455 you can, you know, try to make a case 175 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:48,873 that this was all orchestrated and not at all true. 176 00:08:48,907 --> 00:08:51,427 I think that this was definitely something 177 00:08:51,461 --> 00:08:56,328 that was organized, thought out long-term. 178 00:08:56,363 --> 00:08:57,778 Again, I think some... 179 00:08:57,813 --> 00:08:59,642 I think they know, and they're trying to get ahead of something. 180 00:08:59,677 --> 00:09:03,646 I think... I use the analogy of a snowball at the top of a hill, 181 00:09:03,681 --> 00:09:05,234 and it starts out really small. 182 00:09:05,268 --> 00:09:07,236 And as it rolls down, it's going to get bigger and bigger, 183 00:09:07,270 --> 00:09:09,134 and I think they're trying to get ahead of that. 184 00:09:09,169 --> 00:09:12,655 You can't talk about this subject with a government background 185 00:09:12,690 --> 00:09:14,381 without being the bad guy, 186 00:09:14,415 --> 00:09:16,728 in some people's minds eye. 187 00:09:16,763 --> 00:09:18,799 It just comes with the territory. 188 00:09:18,834 --> 00:09:20,663 I refuse to discuss anything classified. 189 00:09:20,698 --> 00:09:23,563 I've took an oath, which is, by the way, a lifelong oath. 190 00:09:23,597 --> 00:09:26,048 As I've told people before, 191 00:09:26,082 --> 00:09:27,670 don't ask me because I'm not going to tell you. 192 00:09:27,705 --> 00:09:28,844 Lue is in a tough spot, 193 00:09:28,878 --> 00:09:30,639 because he knows a lot of things that... 194 00:09:30,673 --> 00:09:32,813 I mean, he still... He was... 195 00:09:32,848 --> 00:09:34,884 He came out of the Intelligence community 196 00:09:34,919 --> 00:09:36,506 and he probably still, 197 00:09:36,540 --> 00:09:39,648 undoubtedly still has connections to the Intelligence community. 198 00:09:39,682 --> 00:09:44,549 Well, you know, so he can't say everything he knows 199 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:45,688 and has been privy to. 200 00:09:45,723 --> 00:09:47,863 These people promoting this... 201 00:09:48,726 --> 00:09:51,211 agenda of UFO openness, 202 00:09:51,245 --> 00:09:53,523 not disclosure, but openness, 203 00:09:53,558 --> 00:09:56,699 they have enemies within that establishment. 204 00:09:56,734 --> 00:09:58,943 So we're not talking about a unified message. 205 00:09:58,977 --> 00:10:00,600 It's very uncomfortable. 206 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:02,981 Especially if you've lived a life 207 00:10:03,016 --> 00:10:06,122 where anonymity has been your friend. 208 00:10:06,157 --> 00:10:10,782 We have every right to know the truth. 209 00:10:10,817 --> 00:10:15,235 And it's... It's not okay that they're holding that back. 210 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:18,548 It is not a fun place to be. 211 00:10:18,583 --> 00:10:20,999 In fact, if I had any opportunity 212 00:10:21,034 --> 00:10:23,795 for anybody else to stand up and take my place... 213 00:10:23,830 --> 00:10:25,452 I would do it. 214 00:10:25,486 --> 00:10:28,628 There are a lot of people that want this information out 215 00:10:28,662 --> 00:10:31,458 and there are a lot of people who don't want this information out. 216 00:10:31,492 --> 00:10:33,805 The level of pushback that 217 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,359 Harry Reid shared with me on camera. 218 00:10:36,394 --> 00:10:39,949 When he tried to launch this investigatory arm 219 00:10:39,984 --> 00:10:41,537 into creating AATIP, 220 00:10:41,571 --> 00:10:44,298 he said he got so much pushback from the intelligence agencies, 221 00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:46,473 that they, like, tried to destroy people. 222 00:10:46,507 --> 00:10:49,510 They really did not want this to happen. 223 00:10:52,203 --> 00:10:54,136 NARRATOR: After the initial media flurry, 224 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:55,620 the Pentagon promised a report 225 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,450 that might shed some light on the subject. 226 00:10:58,485 --> 00:11:01,971 JAKE TAPPER: Do you expect to see real answers in this report? 227 00:11:02,006 --> 00:11:03,455 What do you think? 228 00:11:04,940 --> 00:11:06,907 Look. Honestly, I don't think so, Jake. 229 00:11:06,942 --> 00:11:08,115 NARRATOR: The public only received 230 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:10,808 a few pages of inconclusive information. 231 00:11:10,842 --> 00:11:15,053 A more elaborate report was delivered to Congress behind closed doors. 232 00:11:15,088 --> 00:11:17,262 Freedom of Information Act requests, 233 00:11:17,297 --> 00:11:19,955 known as FOIA requests, were submitted. 234 00:11:19,989 --> 00:11:22,958 The responses received were heavily redacted. 235 00:11:22,992 --> 00:11:25,201 Three years later, three and a half years later, 236 00:11:25,236 --> 00:11:28,480 no new evidence has come out. 237 00:11:28,515 --> 00:11:30,620 We've got no new videos. 238 00:11:30,655 --> 00:11:32,277 Nothing like that happened. 239 00:11:32,312 --> 00:11:33,796 NARRATOR: Congressman Tim Burchett 240 00:11:33,831 --> 00:11:37,351 has become an outspoken crusader against the secrecy. 241 00:11:37,386 --> 00:11:41,321 The American public deserves to know. We need transparency. 242 00:11:41,355 --> 00:11:43,185 That's why nobody trusts government. 243 00:11:43,219 --> 00:11:47,810 Nobody trusts either party when it comes down to it. 244 00:11:47,845 --> 00:11:49,225 NARRATOR: Instead of new answers, 245 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:51,503 we've been given a whitewashing of the past 246 00:11:51,538 --> 00:11:54,679 and further reinforcement of a "New Narrative" 247 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,198 created to fit the day. 248 00:12:02,066 --> 00:12:03,653 NARRATOR: The New Narrative states that 249 00:12:03,688 --> 00:12:07,485 the UAP's not ours or any foreign government's. 250 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:10,660 They display characteristics that defy explanation. 251 00:12:10,695 --> 00:12:13,180 "We are committed to determining their nature, 252 00:12:13,215 --> 00:12:15,251 "and assessing any potential threat." 253 00:12:15,286 --> 00:12:18,254 There was no official government study of the topic 254 00:12:18,289 --> 00:12:21,395 after Project Blue Book ended in 1969, 255 00:12:21,430 --> 00:12:25,123 until the AAWSAP program started in 2004. 256 00:12:25,158 --> 00:12:27,574 By sort of extracting a lot of the history out, 257 00:12:29,127 --> 00:12:30,715 they're able to make it seem like, 258 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,062 wow, this is a real mystery here. 259 00:12:33,097 --> 00:12:34,546 So, I don't agree with that. 260 00:12:34,581 --> 00:12:38,378 I think their New Narrative, I think they have this fear, 261 00:12:38,412 --> 00:12:40,104 you know, that it's a threat. 262 00:12:40,138 --> 00:12:43,901 And the word "threat" kind of bothers me a little bit. 263 00:12:43,935 --> 00:12:48,422 But I understand that in order to get government attention, 264 00:12:48,457 --> 00:12:50,977 they need to call it, perhaps, a threat. 265 00:12:51,011 --> 00:12:53,669 So we have an ongoing situation here. 266 00:12:53,703 --> 00:12:55,567 This is a defense issue. 267 00:12:55,602 --> 00:12:56,948 It's an air safety issue. 268 00:12:56,983 --> 00:12:59,468 It's a national security issue. 269 00:12:59,502 --> 00:13:00,572 It's a valid issue. 270 00:13:00,607 --> 00:13:03,368 There is something flying around in our airspace 271 00:13:03,403 --> 00:13:06,751 and we don't know what it is or we're not telling what it is. 272 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,132 Eighteen months ago, 273 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:13,033 if you had asked anyone in government the official line on UFOs, 274 00:13:13,068 --> 00:13:16,002 you would have received a standard response 275 00:13:16,036 --> 00:13:17,727 rather like this. 276 00:13:17,762 --> 00:13:21,559 "There is no current interest or involvement in the subject. 277 00:13:21,593 --> 00:13:24,976 "Since the termination of Blue Book in 1969, 278 00:13:25,011 --> 00:13:26,115 "nobody in government 279 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:28,393 "is researching or investigating this." 280 00:13:28,428 --> 00:13:29,739 You know, the department writ large 281 00:13:29,774 --> 00:13:33,226 is clearly not interested in UFOs whatsoever. 282 00:13:35,642 --> 00:13:38,265 NARRATOR: This story leaves a gap of over 35 years 283 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:39,784 that the government was supposedly 284 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,787 not engaged in the study of the phenomenon. 285 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:45,928 The media was quick to participate in the new story. 286 00:13:45,963 --> 00:13:49,725 Were they complicit in delivering this new version of the facts? 287 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:55,179 There is a risk of believing the official narrative 288 00:13:55,213 --> 00:13:57,871 too quickly and just reporting it. 289 00:13:57,906 --> 00:14:02,358 There's many steps to go and it's going to take a while. 290 00:14:02,393 --> 00:14:04,705 And, you know, they still have a totally compliant media, 291 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:05,983 for the most part. 292 00:14:06,017 --> 00:14:09,089 I can tell you from my knowledge of The New York Times. 293 00:14:09,124 --> 00:14:11,816 The New York Times is not afraid to confront the government. 294 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:14,232 Having been legal counsel for The New York Times 295 00:14:14,267 --> 00:14:15,924 and for NBC News, 296 00:14:15,958 --> 00:14:19,824 the people on the board of editors of those things, 297 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:24,415 you know, feel themselves to have a certain patriotic duty, as they perceive them, 298 00:14:25,554 --> 00:14:29,040 to not reveal anything to the American public 299 00:14:29,075 --> 00:14:32,733 that the National Security State people don't want revealed. 300 00:14:32,768 --> 00:14:33,838 So I don't want to be bound 301 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:36,047 [CHUCKLES] by what Danny Sheehan said about his, 302 00:14:36,082 --> 00:14:39,706 you know, concepts of what The Timesprints and doesn't. 303 00:14:42,122 --> 00:14:45,470 NARRATOR: This New Narrative has become the official story. 304 00:14:45,505 --> 00:14:48,404 It was even stated as fact by Andre Carson 305 00:14:48,439 --> 00:14:52,132 at the beginning of the first congressional UFO hearings, 306 00:14:52,167 --> 00:14:53,996 in over 40 years. 307 00:14:54,031 --> 00:14:56,136 More than 50 years ago, 308 00:14:56,171 --> 00:14:59,899 the U.S. Government ended Project Blue Book. 309 00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:02,522 An effort to catalog and understand 310 00:15:02,556 --> 00:15:04,662 sightings of objects in the air 311 00:15:04,696 --> 00:15:07,699 that could not otherwise be explained. 312 00:15:07,734 --> 00:15:09,701 For more than 20 years, that project 313 00:15:09,736 --> 00:15:12,912 had treated unidentified anomalies in our airspace 314 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:17,986 as a national security threat to be monitored and investigated. 315 00:15:18,020 --> 00:15:21,161 In 2017, we learned for the first time that the Department of Defense 316 00:15:21,196 --> 00:15:23,992 had quietly restarted a similar organization, 317 00:15:24,026 --> 00:15:27,857 tracking what we now call Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 318 00:15:30,515 --> 00:15:32,138 NARRATOR: We've heard all of this before. 319 00:15:32,172 --> 00:15:36,797 The New Narrative is really an eerie echo of 70-year-old events. 320 00:15:36,832 --> 00:15:41,837 We can say that the recent sightings are in no way connected 321 00:15:41,871 --> 00:15:46,393 with any secret development by any agency of the United States. 322 00:15:46,428 --> 00:15:49,845 Aircraft, we call them aircraft, are displaying characteristics 323 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:52,710 that are not currently within the U.S. inventory, 324 00:15:52,744 --> 00:15:56,472 nor in any foreign inventory that we are aware of. 325 00:15:56,507 --> 00:15:59,406 Air Force interest in this problem 326 00:15:59,441 --> 00:16:01,891 has been due to our feeling of an obligation 327 00:16:01,926 --> 00:16:06,966 to identify and analyze, to the best of our ability, 328 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,728 anything in the air that may have the possibility 329 00:16:10,762 --> 00:16:14,352 of threat or menace to the United States. 330 00:16:14,387 --> 00:16:18,080 We know that our service members have encountered 331 00:16:18,115 --> 00:16:20,255 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 332 00:16:20,289 --> 00:16:21,911 And because UAPs pose 333 00:16:21,946 --> 00:16:24,845 potential flight safety and general security risk, 334 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,159 we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins. 335 00:16:28,194 --> 00:16:32,474 However, there have been a certain percentage of this volume of reports 336 00:16:33,613 --> 00:16:37,099 that have been made by credible observers 337 00:16:37,134 --> 00:16:39,343 of relatively incredible things. 338 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,794 It is this group of observations 339 00:16:42,829 --> 00:16:46,419 that we now are attempting to resolve. 340 00:16:46,453 --> 00:16:50,733 There will be a recognized concerted effort 341 00:16:50,768 --> 00:16:52,528 to figure this out. 342 00:16:52,563 --> 00:16:56,670 NARRATOR: The old story was repeated almost verbatim by the current players. 343 00:16:56,705 --> 00:16:59,397 We're still far from the goal line, 344 00:16:59,432 --> 00:17:02,504 and there is a lot of positions 345 00:17:02,538 --> 00:17:04,022 that they could take along the way 346 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:06,680 that still will allow them to maintain credibility 347 00:17:07,336 --> 00:17:10,477 and avoid culpability. 348 00:17:10,512 --> 00:17:12,340 The media and the public want more. 349 00:17:12,376 --> 00:17:13,825 They want answers. 350 00:17:13,859 --> 00:17:15,689 I'm not sure that there are going to be easy answers to this. 351 00:17:15,723 --> 00:17:20,867 They're trying to sweep anything prior to 2004 under the carpet, 352 00:17:20,901 --> 00:17:22,558 but we won't let them because we've got 353 00:17:22,593 --> 00:17:25,215 all the historical cases and those can't go away. 354 00:17:25,251 --> 00:17:29,048 They're not only whitewashing history, they're denying it. 355 00:17:29,082 --> 00:17:32,568 They're only acknowledging the phenomenon back to 2004. 356 00:17:32,603 --> 00:17:34,984 The government has a lot to answer for. 357 00:17:35,019 --> 00:17:35,916 Absolutely right. 358 00:17:36,883 --> 00:17:38,885 The history of the subject has been replete 359 00:17:38,919 --> 00:17:41,577 with misinformation and disinformation. 360 00:17:41,612 --> 00:17:43,338 It's just a complete cover up. 361 00:17:49,102 --> 00:17:53,037 NARRATOR: What was going on in the time between the closing of Project Blue Book 362 00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:56,627 and the beginning of the officially announced UFO programs 363 00:17:56,661 --> 00:17:58,525 that we know about today? 364 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,044 Why is it important? 365 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:03,220 Because in those years, is where the truth lies. 366 00:18:03,254 --> 00:18:08,604 A truth that many have gone to great lengths to conceal, deny, and debunk. 367 00:18:08,639 --> 00:18:10,606 We start by taking a closer look 368 00:18:10,641 --> 00:18:14,369 at the period between 1947 and 2005. 369 00:18:14,403 --> 00:18:16,957 The existence of official UFO research 370 00:18:16,992 --> 00:18:20,444 and programs by the U.S. Government in this time frame 371 00:18:20,478 --> 00:18:22,446 has been staunchly denied. 372 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,207 The facts challenge that position. 373 00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:29,556 In the late 1940s, the world was recovering from World War II. 374 00:18:29,591 --> 00:18:31,662 The military was reorganizing. 375 00:18:31,696 --> 00:18:35,148 In 1947, the Air Force was being created 376 00:18:35,183 --> 00:18:37,426 as a standalone branch of service. 377 00:18:37,461 --> 00:18:40,809 The Cold War and its strategic questions were looming. 378 00:18:40,843 --> 00:18:42,776 But in the midst of all of this, 379 00:18:42,811 --> 00:18:45,262 the United States Army created what they called 380 00:18:45,296 --> 00:18:47,643 the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit 381 00:18:47,678 --> 00:18:50,474 of the Scientific and Technical branch. 382 00:18:50,508 --> 00:18:52,752 Why did they need that? 383 00:18:54,547 --> 00:18:58,965 Numerous FOIA request verified the existence of this Army program. 384 00:18:58,999 --> 00:19:01,105 They state that the unit disbanded 385 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:04,246 and was folded into Project Blue Book in the 50s. 386 00:19:04,281 --> 00:19:05,868 But the files of this group 387 00:19:05,903 --> 00:19:09,251 are not part of the official Project Blue Book Collection. 388 00:19:09,286 --> 00:19:11,184 So where did they go? 389 00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:14,946 During that time, there was advanced technology in the possession of Germany. 390 00:19:14,981 --> 00:19:18,571 Scientists were brought over after the war to continue the work. 391 00:19:18,605 --> 00:19:22,022 Stories of UFOs and crashes were abundant, 392 00:19:22,057 --> 00:19:26,268 including the famous Roswell incident of 1947. 393 00:19:26,303 --> 00:19:28,339 The late astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell 394 00:19:28,374 --> 00:19:31,687 was given secret information about events of the time. 395 00:19:31,722 --> 00:19:34,069 In this never before seen video, 396 00:19:34,103 --> 00:19:36,071 he shares what he was told. 397 00:19:36,105 --> 00:19:38,004 Individuals at the Pentagon, 398 00:19:38,038 --> 00:19:41,456 had been attempting to get into the system 399 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:42,940 and find out about it, 400 00:19:43,872 --> 00:19:47,151 thus confirming and had confirmed. 401 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,773 that the Roswell incident was real. 402 00:19:48,808 --> 00:19:53,951 They saw some of the material from the crashed spacecraft. 403 00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:59,301 Some saw bodies from the beings that were killed in that crash. 404 00:19:59,336 --> 00:20:02,373 There were some that saw a live being. 405 00:20:02,408 --> 00:20:07,447 A live being had been taken away and was in the system somewhere. 406 00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:11,900 So those were real life incidents that were reported to me. 407 00:20:14,730 --> 00:20:18,838 NARRATOR: Many believe in the formation of a group called Majestic 12 408 00:20:18,872 --> 00:20:20,736 assembled by President Truman, 409 00:20:20,771 --> 00:20:23,705 to strategize about how to handle the information 410 00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:25,845 about these encounters and more. 411 00:20:25,879 --> 00:20:28,088 Documents purport to detail the creation 412 00:20:28,123 --> 00:20:31,299 and deployment of this group, but their authenticity 413 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:33,646 is still a hotly debated topic. 414 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,063 It makes sense, however, that under such circumstances, 415 00:20:37,097 --> 00:20:39,652 just such a group would have been formed. 416 00:20:39,686 --> 00:20:41,585 They would have had control of the subject 417 00:20:41,619 --> 00:20:43,863 and accountability to a select few. 418 00:20:43,897 --> 00:20:46,521 If a decision was made to enact secrecy, 419 00:20:46,555 --> 00:20:48,833 this group would have made it happen. 420 00:20:51,042 --> 00:20:57,290 After years of UFO hysteria and speculation between 1947 and 1952, 421 00:20:57,325 --> 00:21:01,467 the government finally said that they were taking the subject seriously. 422 00:21:01,501 --> 00:21:02,709 Enter Project Blue Book, 423 00:21:02,744 --> 00:21:04,021 a public program 424 00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:07,093 that was supposed to shed light on the UFO subject. 425 00:21:07,127 --> 00:21:11,822 Paul Hynek, son of the late J. Allen Hynek, shared this. 426 00:21:11,856 --> 00:21:14,445 My father was the chief scientific consultant 427 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,138 working alongside Air Force counterparts. 428 00:21:18,173 --> 00:21:22,108 And it became clear that the role of Project Blue Book 429 00:21:22,142 --> 00:21:27,734 wasn't to look for the truth, but was to manufacture answers 430 00:21:27,769 --> 00:21:29,633 and to tamp down hysteria. 431 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:36,225 Somebody called it the Society for the Explanation of the Uninvestigated. 432 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:40,885 My father had to question whether he should stay involved. 433 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,267 James McDonald, one of his colleagues, said, 434 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:47,029 look, you're being played a fool by the Air Force, 435 00:21:47,064 --> 00:21:48,652 and my father thought a lot about it. 436 00:21:48,686 --> 00:21:50,274 He finally decided that 437 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:54,036 having that front row center seat to all these goings on 438 00:21:54,071 --> 00:21:56,832 and being able to influence things, not control, 439 00:21:56,867 --> 00:21:58,386 was worth the trouble. 440 00:21:58,420 --> 00:22:04,530 But it became increasingly frustrating for him over time, 441 00:22:04,564 --> 00:22:08,085 as he saw that the Air Force was not changing their colors. 442 00:22:10,743 --> 00:22:13,124 NARRATOR: J. Allen Hynek was openly frustrated 443 00:22:13,159 --> 00:22:15,126 by the fact he was never given access 444 00:22:15,161 --> 00:22:18,785 to what he knew were compelling events shrouded in secrecy. 445 00:22:18,820 --> 00:22:22,237 It haunted him until his passing in 1986. 446 00:22:22,271 --> 00:22:26,068 Official Air Force statements regarding the conclusion of Blue Book say, 447 00:22:26,103 --> 00:22:28,312 "Since the termination of Project Blue Book, 448 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:30,418 "nothing has occurred that would support 449 00:22:30,452 --> 00:22:34,042 "a resumption of UFO investigations by the Air Force." 450 00:22:34,076 --> 00:22:37,286 But another four-year request revealed a different story. 451 00:22:37,321 --> 00:22:40,738 A 1969 memo from General Carroll Bolender, 452 00:22:40,773 --> 00:22:43,707 a senior director at Air Force Research and Development, 453 00:22:43,741 --> 00:22:46,365 stated, "After Blue Book was dissolved, 454 00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:47,711 "that reports of 'UFOs' 455 00:22:47,745 --> 00:22:49,747 "would still continue to be handled 456 00:22:49,782 --> 00:22:51,646 "through a standard Air Force procedure 457 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,199 "designed for this purpose. 458 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,202 "Furthermore, reports of unidentified flying objects 459 00:22:56,236 --> 00:22:59,205 "which could affect national security were, are, 460 00:22:59,239 --> 00:23:01,518 "not part of the Blue Book system." 461 00:23:01,552 --> 00:23:05,625 There was the creation of the Air Intelligence Service squadrons, 462 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:09,457 which were tasked with going to any spot 463 00:23:09,491 --> 00:23:11,251 in the continental United States, 464 00:23:11,286 --> 00:23:15,911 within six hours and picking up debris, 465 00:23:15,946 --> 00:23:21,814 fallen pilots, and also containing information leak. 466 00:23:21,848 --> 00:23:24,506 And so many people think that that would have been 467 00:23:24,541 --> 00:23:28,476 the entity or the agency that gave birth to the Men in Black. 468 00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:32,687 What seems to be clear is that there was a bifurcation. 469 00:23:32,721 --> 00:23:34,413 That Project Blue Book may have started off 470 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:35,759 as a serious scientific endeavor, 471 00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:38,451 but as of 1953, it no longer was, 472 00:23:38,486 --> 00:23:42,248 and there was most likely the Air Intelligence Service squadrons 473 00:23:42,282 --> 00:23:43,870 that picked up the banner 474 00:23:43,905 --> 00:23:46,632 of going out and trying to find saucers 475 00:23:46,666 --> 00:23:49,220 and then hand them off to people 476 00:23:49,255 --> 00:23:51,084 who would try to reverse-engineer 477 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,983 the propulsion systems, et cetera. 478 00:23:53,017 --> 00:23:54,812 DON SCHMITT: General Arthur Exon described to us 479 00:23:54,847 --> 00:23:56,435 when he was base commander 480 00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:59,714 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in 1964, 481 00:23:59,748 --> 00:24:02,406 that there would be an ongoing joke 482 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:05,478 that the Blue Book, you know, a two-man team would fly off 483 00:24:05,513 --> 00:24:08,170 in a little single engine plane in one direction, 484 00:24:08,205 --> 00:24:11,484 and then the actual project would arrive from Washington 485 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,970 on a commercial flight, they would change back into their uniforms, 486 00:24:15,005 --> 00:24:19,458 and a team of 12-15 officers would fly off in a jet 487 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:22,909 to actually conduct full-scale investigations. 488 00:24:25,325 --> 00:24:27,086 NARRATOR: Project Blue Book was headquartered 489 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,088 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 490 00:24:29,122 --> 00:24:32,125 but some of the other, more secret UFO programs 491 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,196 seem to have been located there, too. 492 00:24:34,231 --> 00:24:37,165 One of these is the mysterious Blue Room, 493 00:24:37,199 --> 00:24:41,341 an underground repository of recovered technology and debris. 494 00:24:41,376 --> 00:24:45,345 MICHAEL: This is the location, allegedly, where they brought the bodies 495 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:47,002 and the craft from the Roswell crash 496 00:24:47,037 --> 00:24:50,419 and where all of the other crash retrievals and bodies, 497 00:24:50,454 --> 00:24:53,630 kind of like they have a consortium of where they keep all this. 498 00:24:53,664 --> 00:24:57,910 So you've got the bodies, you've got the craft, you've got the debris, 499 00:24:57,944 --> 00:24:59,290 autopsy reports, 500 00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:02,535 the eight-by-ten glossy black and white photographs, 501 00:25:02,570 --> 00:25:06,263 and the gun camera footage is all supposed to be kept 502 00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:09,266 at the Blue Room, some type of an underground vault 503 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:13,201 or Building 18 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 504 00:25:13,235 --> 00:25:16,791 NARRATOR: Senator Barry Goldwater sought confirmation of this. 505 00:25:16,825 --> 00:25:18,827 At Wright-Patterson field, 506 00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:21,520 if you could get into certain places, 507 00:25:21,554 --> 00:25:23,314 you find out what the Air Force 508 00:25:23,349 --> 00:25:26,145 and the government knows about UFOs. 509 00:25:26,179 --> 00:25:31,150 Reportedly, a spaceship landed 510 00:25:31,184 --> 00:25:35,085 and it was all hushed up, quiet, and nobody ever... 511 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,294 I've never heard about much of it. 512 00:25:38,398 --> 00:25:42,817 I called Curtis LeMay, and I said, "General, 513 00:25:42,851 --> 00:25:47,097 "I know we have a room at Wright-Patterson, 514 00:25:47,131 --> 00:25:49,340 "where you put all the secret stuff. 515 00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:52,274 "Could I go in there?" 516 00:25:53,241 --> 00:25:56,175 I've never heard him get mad, 517 00:25:56,209 --> 00:25:58,591 but he got madder than hell at me. 518 00:25:58,626 --> 00:25:59,868 Cussed me out, 519 00:25:59,903 --> 00:26:02,802 said, "Don't ever ask me that question." 520 00:26:02,837 --> 00:26:06,323 NARRATOR: Supposedly, the contents of the Blue Room were filmed. 521 00:26:06,357 --> 00:26:10,154 Exhaustive FOIA requests finally revealed that this film 522 00:26:10,189 --> 00:26:13,054 did indeed exist, but was destroyed. 523 00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:19,267 Nick Pope, a longtime ex-British government pundit on the topic, 524 00:26:19,301 --> 00:26:22,511 denied official investigation of the subject for years. 525 00:26:22,546 --> 00:26:23,754 Until he didn't. 526 00:26:23,789 --> 00:26:26,723 The more interesting UFO sightings are being looked at, 527 00:26:26,757 --> 00:26:29,415 but not under the auspices 528 00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:32,798 of a formally constituted UFO research program. 529 00:26:32,832 --> 00:26:36,733 We now know about a government UFO program, 530 00:26:36,767 --> 00:26:42,635 but we might not know about the government UFO program. 531 00:26:43,809 --> 00:26:44,603 [DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING] 532 00:26:45,534 --> 00:26:47,260 NARRATOR: Pope has told a story about 533 00:26:47,295 --> 00:26:49,746 a picture that hung on the wall of his office for years 534 00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:51,161 until being removed. 535 00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:54,440 The Calvine incident from the United Kingdom, 536 00:26:54,474 --> 00:26:57,477 is one of the most intriguing sightings 537 00:26:57,512 --> 00:26:59,928 in the British government's UFO files. 538 00:26:59,963 --> 00:27:02,103 And for some years, 539 00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:06,348 when I was working in Ministry of Defense main building on this issue, 540 00:27:06,383 --> 00:27:11,353 we had a blown-up, poster-sized enlargement 541 00:27:11,388 --> 00:27:15,047 of one of the photos that was taken. 542 00:27:15,081 --> 00:27:17,187 The story is that two hikers 543 00:27:17,221 --> 00:27:20,466 were out and they saw a large diamond-shaped UFO. 544 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,987 At one point, there was a military jet in the background. 545 00:27:24,021 --> 00:27:27,197 And then the UFO accelerated away. 546 00:27:27,231 --> 00:27:29,164 We had looked at them at the Ministry of Defense. 547 00:27:29,199 --> 00:27:35,205 They'd been analyzed by various intelligence community imagery analysts. 548 00:27:35,239 --> 00:27:37,069 It was literally a UFO. 549 00:27:37,103 --> 00:27:40,451 The Ministry of Defense embarked on a campaign 550 00:27:40,486 --> 00:27:43,558 to declassify and release its UFO files. 551 00:27:43,592 --> 00:27:47,286 Documents about the Calvine incident emerged, 552 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,772 but the full-size color photos, 553 00:27:50,807 --> 00:27:54,120 the negatives, the enlarged image that was on my wall, 554 00:27:54,155 --> 00:27:56,019 gone. Disappeared. 555 00:27:56,053 --> 00:28:00,575 There was an effort to see if the original photos 556 00:28:00,609 --> 00:28:05,994 might be in the hard copy file held at the National Archives. 557 00:28:06,029 --> 00:28:08,548 And, apparently, the hard copy file 558 00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:11,793 will be released in about the year 2072. 559 00:28:14,209 --> 00:28:16,039 NARRATOR: In an interesting turn of events, 560 00:28:16,073 --> 00:28:18,179 just as we were finishing this project, 561 00:28:18,213 --> 00:28:19,559 the picture appeared. 562 00:28:19,594 --> 00:28:22,873 This is the mysterious Calvine UFO photograph. 563 00:28:22,908 --> 00:28:24,461 The facts around this photograph 564 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:26,670 strongly suggest an unknown group 565 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,638 that was able to intercept the release of this image 566 00:28:29,673 --> 00:28:30,985 and attempt to stop it. 567 00:28:31,019 --> 00:28:32,641 But who are they? 568 00:28:32,676 --> 00:28:34,851 Information in government, 569 00:28:34,885 --> 00:28:37,681 in particularly intelligence information, 570 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:42,928 it's highly classified, deeply compartmentalized, 571 00:28:42,962 --> 00:28:44,619 everyone works in silos. 572 00:28:44,653 --> 00:28:47,553 The left hand often doesn't know what the right hand's doing. 573 00:28:47,587 --> 00:28:50,349 NARRATOR: We saw an example of compartmentalization 574 00:28:50,383 --> 00:28:52,731 and the evasion of scrutiny and straight answers 575 00:28:52,765 --> 00:28:55,630 during the recent Senate hearings on UFOs. 576 00:28:55,664 --> 00:28:59,323 So you're not aware of anything in between Project Blue Book and AATIP? 577 00:28:59,358 --> 00:29:01,394 Hasn't been brought to my attention. 578 00:29:01,429 --> 00:29:04,708 That data is not within the holdings of the UAP task force. 579 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,296 There are many things that are out there in the ether 580 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:07,987 that aren't officially brought to our attention. 581 00:29:08,022 --> 00:29:10,093 GALLAGHER: How would it have to be officially brought? 582 00:29:10,127 --> 00:29:11,922 [CHUCKLES] I'm bringing it to your attention. 583 00:29:11,957 --> 00:29:14,338 Probably a lot of leads that we would have to follow up on. 584 00:29:14,373 --> 00:29:16,340 I don't think we have resource to do that right now. 585 00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:18,515 All I can speak to is, you know, what's within my cognizance, 586 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:21,414 the UAP task force, and we have not looked at that incident. 587 00:29:21,449 --> 00:29:23,106 And then, finally, are you aware of a document 588 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,693 that appeared around 2019, 589 00:29:24,728 --> 00:29:28,697 sometimes called the Admiral Wilson Memo or E.W. Notes Memo? 590 00:29:28,732 --> 00:29:32,115 -I am... I am not... -I'm not personally aware of that. 591 00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:35,670 NARRATOR: These answers are made possible by compartmentalization 592 00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:37,637 that aids in deniability. 593 00:29:37,672 --> 00:29:39,122 You can ask the questions, 594 00:29:39,156 --> 00:29:40,882 but who are you going to ask them of? 595 00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:43,436 And you've got to make sure you're asking the right people the questions, 596 00:29:43,471 --> 00:29:45,611 because that's another problem. 597 00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:47,578 You can ask questions all day long. 598 00:29:49,995 --> 00:29:53,170 NARRATOR: While we're at it, what is the Wilson-Davis Memo 599 00:29:53,205 --> 00:29:55,207 that Senator Gallagher asked about? 600 00:29:55,241 --> 00:30:00,212 It's the leak of 15 pages of notes by Dr. Eric Davis, 601 00:30:00,246 --> 00:30:03,767 of a meeting he had in 2002 with a retired member 602 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:06,770 of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas R. Wilson. 603 00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:11,395 And the contents of these notes are absolutely explosive. 604 00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:14,019 NARRATOR: The Wilson-Davis Memo was found in the files 605 00:30:14,053 --> 00:30:15,779 of the late Dr. Edgar Mitchell. 606 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,402 It was the existence of a reverse-engineering program 607 00:30:18,437 --> 00:30:21,647 to reverse-engineer extraterrestrial technology. 608 00:30:21,681 --> 00:30:23,166 After he learned about the existence 609 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,066 of a deep classified program to study ET technology. 610 00:30:27,101 --> 00:30:32,416 And the fact that he had genuine legal regulatory oversight over this, 611 00:30:32,451 --> 00:30:34,763 how he was denied access to this program. 612 00:30:34,798 --> 00:30:38,664 We'd retrieved a functioning craft that was ET in nature. 613 00:30:38,698 --> 00:30:40,700 I mean, this is all stated in there. 614 00:30:40,735 --> 00:30:43,634 And that there had been this long reverse-engineering program. 615 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:45,705 But it had gone into a corporate company, 616 00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:48,122 and the heads of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 617 00:30:48,156 --> 00:30:49,606 have no business looking into it. 618 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,815 The memorable quote on that note is, 619 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,335 "Technology not of this Earth, 620 00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:57,683 "not made by man, not by human hands." 621 00:30:57,717 --> 00:30:59,616 They said, "No, you're not read in." 622 00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:02,895 NARRATOR: Admiral Wilson denies the authenticity of the story. 623 00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:05,622 Dr. Eric Davis plays a significant role 624 00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:07,935 in the programs we are describing here, 625 00:31:07,969 --> 00:31:09,729 the history and the research. 626 00:31:09,764 --> 00:31:11,352 He said this, 627 00:31:11,386 --> 00:31:16,322 "I am not at liberty to confirm or verify any aspect of those notes." 628 00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:18,704 These notes, in my view, 629 00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:20,602 there's no question about their authenticity. 630 00:31:23,467 --> 00:31:25,504 NARRATOR: In a recent presentation to Congress, 631 00:31:25,538 --> 00:31:28,058 MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network, 632 00:31:28,093 --> 00:31:32,476 presented a slide pointing out nearly 20 government agencies 633 00:31:32,511 --> 00:31:36,101 that have some program or study of UAP. 634 00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:37,516 There were many. 635 00:31:39,207 --> 00:31:40,726 In 1991, 636 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,590 New York Times writer Howard Blum 637 00:31:42,624 --> 00:31:44,592 released the bookOut There. 638 00:31:44,626 --> 00:31:47,284 In it, he detailed an actual group 639 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,218 formed by the Pentagon to investigate new evidence 640 00:31:50,253 --> 00:31:53,014 related to an extraterrestrial presence. 641 00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:57,294 This group, referred to in the book as the UFO Working Group, 642 00:31:57,329 --> 00:31:59,572 was led by a shadowy army colonel 643 00:31:59,607 --> 00:32:02,575 referred to as Colonel Phillips. 644 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:05,406 It is believed that the mysterious Colonel Phillips 645 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,858 represents a real colonel who is even more of a mystery. 646 00:32:09,893 --> 00:32:14,346 Colonel John Alexander is a central figure in much of this history. 647 00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:19,938 In 1985, he became the director of advanced concepts at the U.S. Army Lab. 648 00:32:20,593 --> 00:32:21,629 In 2009, 649 00:32:21,663 --> 00:32:24,839 John Alexander spoke at the UFOX Conference 650 00:32:24,873 --> 00:32:27,324 and was interviewed behind the scenes. 651 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:32,260 What I think needs to happen at this time is not disclosure per se, 652 00:32:32,295 --> 00:32:33,848 because I don't think there is much to disclose. 653 00:32:33,882 --> 00:32:38,094 What I think needs to happen is we need to make it okay, 654 00:32:38,128 --> 00:32:41,614 permissible for serious scientists 655 00:32:41,649 --> 00:32:44,169 who want to explore these fields to do this. 656 00:32:44,203 --> 00:32:47,137 NARRATOR: Unknown at the time of this original interview, 657 00:32:47,172 --> 00:32:48,483 he had been running a program 658 00:32:48,518 --> 00:32:51,210 exactly like the kind described in Blum's book. 659 00:32:51,245 --> 00:32:55,870 KEAN: A bunch of military, aerospace and government insiders 660 00:32:55,904 --> 00:32:59,184 started with the Advanced Theoretical Physics Working Group. 661 00:32:59,218 --> 00:33:02,704 Now, there's even some evidence that it existed prior to that. 662 00:33:02,739 --> 00:33:06,570 I ran a program inside the government, 663 00:33:06,605 --> 00:33:09,746 I had all of the services involved, 664 00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:13,198 I had many aspects of the Intelligence community, 665 00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:15,683 I had aerospace engineers. 666 00:33:15,717 --> 00:33:18,789 It was at the top secret SCI level, 667 00:33:18,824 --> 00:33:21,378 so everybody had the high clearances. 668 00:33:23,725 --> 00:33:26,280 They had this meeting at BDM Corporation 669 00:33:26,314 --> 00:33:28,523 in a secure vault room and said, 670 00:33:28,558 --> 00:33:30,836 "We're forming up this group." 671 00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:32,769 And that was in 1985. 672 00:33:32,803 --> 00:33:34,115 NARRATOR: The real name of the group 673 00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,222 was the Advanced Theoretical Physics Working Group. 674 00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:39,258 The study topics included 675 00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,398 Advanced Detector Deployment, 676 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:45,678 Established Communication, New Materials, 677 00:33:45,713 --> 00:33:48,440 Develop a "Gravity Interaction System", 678 00:33:48,474 --> 00:33:51,098 "Biological Controls of Processes". 679 00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:54,032 We start by saying it's real. 680 00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:55,447 So let's be clear. 681 00:33:55,481 --> 00:33:57,069 UFOs are real, 682 00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:58,691 sensor systems picked them up. 683 00:34:01,591 --> 00:34:04,939 UFOs have been around, you know, 684 00:34:04,973 --> 00:34:07,700 since, again, the beginning of time, 685 00:34:07,735 --> 00:34:10,945 or recorded history as we know it. 686 00:34:10,978 --> 00:34:14,328 It is a global phenomenon. 687 00:34:16,261 --> 00:34:19,471 One of the things that will come up in this, undoubtedly, 688 00:34:19,505 --> 00:34:21,161 is the BAASS study 689 00:34:21,197 --> 00:34:23,337 or the one that Lue Elizondo said 690 00:34:23,371 --> 00:34:26,271 came out in The New York Times. 691 00:34:26,304 --> 00:34:27,547 We spent a lot of time 692 00:34:27,581 --> 00:34:28,928 in the analysis piece of this, 693 00:34:28,963 --> 00:34:32,034 getting experts within the community, 694 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:35,349 both the Department of Defense and the Intelligence community. 695 00:34:35,382 --> 00:34:38,110 It basically followed the same thing 696 00:34:38,145 --> 00:34:41,493 that I had done 30 years earlier 697 00:34:41,527 --> 00:34:45,635 and found, I think, basically the same thing. 698 00:34:45,668 --> 00:34:47,360 What we're talking about is something 699 00:34:47,395 --> 00:34:50,260 that is probably not ours or adversarial. 700 00:34:50,295 --> 00:34:54,540 Something that we really just don't know where it's from. 701 00:34:54,574 --> 00:34:56,473 And may have been frankly here for quite a while. 702 00:34:56,507 --> 00:34:58,510 The things that they knew about 703 00:34:58,544 --> 00:35:02,134 the capabilities of UFOs were being observed 704 00:35:02,169 --> 00:35:03,170 felt the same. 705 00:35:03,204 --> 00:35:06,828 Really fast, high speed turns, anti-gravity. 706 00:35:06,863 --> 00:35:09,176 You know, things that just can't happen. 707 00:35:11,695 --> 00:35:14,284 And first of all, every sensorial system we have 708 00:35:14,319 --> 00:35:17,391 does pick up UFOs from time to time. 709 00:35:17,425 --> 00:35:20,670 We have hard craft more than a mile across, 710 00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:24,052 multi sensor. I mean, absolutely real. 711 00:35:24,087 --> 00:35:27,677 And thousands and thousands of variations in between. 712 00:35:27,711 --> 00:35:30,473 UAP observed and interacting with 713 00:35:30,507 --> 00:35:32,406 and flying over sensitive military facilities, 714 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,855 and not just ranges, 715 00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:37,204 but some facilities housing our strategic nuclear forces. 716 00:35:37,238 --> 00:35:39,482 One such incident allegedly occurred 717 00:35:39,516 --> 00:35:41,932 at Malmstrom Air Force Base, 718 00:35:41,967 --> 00:35:44,728 in which ten of our nuclear ICBMs were rendered inoperable. 719 00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:46,730 People do look at some of these things. 720 00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:49,699 Particularly, the incidents with F aded Giant 721 00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:53,151 that Bob Salas talks about where you had missiles go down. 722 00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:54,635 Absolutely real. 723 00:35:54,669 --> 00:35:56,982 I have heard stories, I have not seen the official data. 724 00:35:57,016 --> 00:35:58,984 No official assessment 725 00:35:59,018 --> 00:36:02,919 that you've done or exist within DOD that you're aware of 726 00:36:02,953 --> 00:36:04,748 regarding the Malmstrom incident? 727 00:36:04,783 --> 00:36:06,025 We have not looked at that incident. 728 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:07,889 You're the guys investigating it. 729 00:36:07,924 --> 00:36:09,443 I mean, who else is doing it? 730 00:36:09,477 --> 00:36:14,033 Studied the hell out of it and end up with, "Have no idea." 731 00:36:17,002 --> 00:36:18,762 NARRATOR: This stunning set of revelations 732 00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:21,696 places John Alexander in the thick of the subject 733 00:36:21,731 --> 00:36:25,700 during the elusive missing years in question. 734 00:36:25,735 --> 00:36:28,358 A request for information on the military background 735 00:36:28,393 --> 00:36:32,362 of Colonel John Alexander returned an absolute refusal 736 00:36:32,397 --> 00:36:34,468 by the Department of Army personnel, 737 00:36:34,502 --> 00:36:38,265 to even acknowledge Colonel Alexander's military record. 738 00:36:41,406 --> 00:36:43,166 After retiring from the Army, 739 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:47,066 John Alexander worked at Los Alamos National Labs. 740 00:36:47,101 --> 00:36:48,620 In 1995, 741 00:36:48,654 --> 00:36:52,624 Alexander took a position at a new research group called NIDS. 742 00:36:52,658 --> 00:36:55,834 The National Institute for Discovery Sciences. 743 00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:59,665 NIDS was founded by a Nevada billionaire, Robert Bigelow. 744 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,427 These individuals became friends with Robert Bigelow, 745 00:37:02,461 --> 00:37:03,807 and they became involved with him. 746 00:37:03,842 --> 00:37:06,672 Shortly after that, another organization 747 00:37:06,707 --> 00:37:08,156 was formed called NIDS, 748 00:37:08,191 --> 00:37:10,642 National Institute of Discovery Science. 749 00:37:10,676 --> 00:37:12,126 And Bigelow funded that, 750 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,474 and it involved all these same people and others. 751 00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:17,373 NARRATOR: Shortly after forming NIDS, 752 00:37:17,407 --> 00:37:22,274 Robert Bigelow bought the famous paranormal site known as Skinwalker Ranch. 753 00:37:22,309 --> 00:37:24,656 John Alexander was there. 754 00:37:24,690 --> 00:37:25,898 I was with Bob, 755 00:37:26,761 --> 00:37:28,107 Robert Bigelow who owned it. 756 00:37:28,142 --> 00:37:30,282 I was with Bob the day he bought the ranch. 757 00:37:30,317 --> 00:37:32,526 Was the first one to, 758 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,700 you know, spend the night. 759 00:37:34,735 --> 00:37:37,082 We spent years looking at that. 760 00:37:37,116 --> 00:37:40,085 NARRATOR: He would go on to personally witness events 761 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,260 that led him to startling conclusions 762 00:37:42,294 --> 00:37:45,504 about the complexity of unexplained phenomenon. 763 00:37:45,539 --> 00:37:48,783 There was no single phenomenon that was happening at the ranch. 764 00:37:48,818 --> 00:37:52,718 The stories are so bizarre, what you end up, though, 765 00:37:52,753 --> 00:37:56,135 with is something that is terribly complex, 766 00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:59,104 maybe more complex than we can imagine. 767 00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:04,109 NARRATOR: It wasn't long before strange reports 768 00:38:04,143 --> 00:38:06,076 of unusual activity at the ranch 769 00:38:06,111 --> 00:38:09,942 attracted the attention of the Defense Intelligence Agency. 770 00:38:09,977 --> 00:38:11,599 You look at the guys involved, 771 00:38:11,634 --> 00:38:15,016 and some of them were, I mean, we're talking PhD-level scientists. 772 00:38:15,051 --> 00:38:19,124 NARRATOR: Robert Bigelow went on to form Bigelow Advanced Aerospace Studies, 773 00:38:19,158 --> 00:38:22,161 BAASS, as the evolved version of NIDs. 774 00:38:22,196 --> 00:38:26,649 He was quickly rewarded with a Defense Intelligence Agency contract 775 00:38:26,683 --> 00:38:30,894 to study subjects closely tied to the UAP phenomenon. 776 00:38:30,929 --> 00:38:33,345 According to the original contract, 777 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:35,209 some of these topics included, 778 00:38:35,243 --> 00:38:40,007 Lift, Propulsion, Control, Power Generation, 779 00:38:40,041 --> 00:38:42,181 Spatial/Temporal Translation, 780 00:38:42,216 --> 00:38:45,633 Materials, Structural Configuration, 781 00:38:45,668 --> 00:38:48,705 Signature Reduction, Human Interface, 782 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:51,984 Human Effects, and Armament. 783 00:38:52,019 --> 00:38:54,297 At one point, BAASS brought on MUFON, 784 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,919 the Mutual UFO Network, 785 00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:58,957 to help in the study of UFO events around the world. 786 00:38:58,991 --> 00:39:01,753 Richard Lang ran the program inside MUFON. 787 00:39:01,787 --> 00:39:03,582 When we put this program together, 788 00:39:03,617 --> 00:39:05,377 basically what they were doing 789 00:39:05,412 --> 00:39:10,209 is they were paying MUFON for data every month. 790 00:39:10,244 --> 00:39:12,142 At the time that we put this all together, 791 00:39:12,177 --> 00:39:14,904 we didn't know that the DIA was funding this. 792 00:39:14,938 --> 00:39:17,458 I knew based on some of the conversations I had 793 00:39:17,493 --> 00:39:21,428 that there was somebody funding that, that wasn't Bigelow, 794 00:39:21,462 --> 00:39:22,636 but I didn't know who it was. 795 00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:24,879 I assumed it was some government agency. 796 00:39:27,192 --> 00:39:29,505 NARRATOR: The BAASS program was called AAWSAP. 797 00:39:29,539 --> 00:39:33,854 It was the precursor program to what we now know as AATIP. 798 00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:39,100 Lue Elizondo says he took over the remains of the program in 2009. 799 00:39:39,135 --> 00:39:44,209 So the initial focus of AATIP, which was really AAWSAP, 800 00:39:44,243 --> 00:39:46,487 was very broad. 801 00:39:46,522 --> 00:39:51,009 So imagine trying to shoot a fly with a shotgun, right? 802 00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:53,356 Chances are you probably hit the fly, 803 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,738 but chances are you're going to hit a lot more. 804 00:39:55,772 --> 00:39:58,637 So we quickly realized that we were getting a lot of information 805 00:39:58,672 --> 00:40:01,399 as a result of this broad focus very quickly, 806 00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:03,711 and we frankly, just didn't have the staff to deal with it all. 807 00:40:03,746 --> 00:40:06,196 So a decision was made early on 808 00:40:06,231 --> 00:40:09,855 to focus a program, the program was renamed to AATIP, 809 00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:13,203 and really use, let's say, instead of a shotgun, 810 00:40:13,238 --> 00:40:15,999 maybe we're going to use a sniper rifle this time, right? 811 00:40:16,034 --> 00:40:20,038 So much more focused on what it is we were trying to collect, 812 00:40:20,072 --> 00:40:24,767 and try to digest this elephant, one bite at a time. 813 00:40:24,801 --> 00:40:27,597 And so the focus of AATIP was indeed... 814 00:40:27,632 --> 00:40:29,357 Was indeed the phenomenon. 815 00:40:31,049 --> 00:40:33,603 Again, the challenge is, where do you start? 816 00:40:33,638 --> 00:40:36,364 We have got, and we may well get, 817 00:40:36,917 --> 00:40:38,125 interesting information, 818 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:39,747 but we may never get all of it. 819 00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:42,405 What I'm afraid happens, too, is that somebody 820 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,479 that has this knowledge, passes away or goes on, 821 00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:50,448 and then the new person coming in doesn't quite 822 00:40:50,482 --> 00:40:52,277 grasp what's going on. 823 00:40:52,311 --> 00:40:56,315 One difficulty with getting information from the military is, 824 00:40:56,350 --> 00:40:58,835 those who say don't know. 825 00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:01,528 Those who know don't say. 826 00:41:01,562 --> 00:41:03,806 In other words, when someone says that they know everything 827 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,155 about what's happening with the military, then don't believe it. 828 00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:10,985 Because maybe there are things that they don't know. 829 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:14,506 So I think the mantra here is "Beware". 830 00:41:14,541 --> 00:41:15,680 That is, be cautious. 831 00:41:15,714 --> 00:41:19,097 Don't believe everything you hear from the military. 832 00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:20,788 These private corporations that are running 833 00:41:20,823 --> 00:41:23,135 the special access programs, they are the Mafia. 834 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,933 They don't want anything examining what they do. 835 00:41:27,968 --> 00:41:29,832 They've got the future in their possession. 836 00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:33,594 They've got the most exotic technology and science imaginable, 837 00:41:33,629 --> 00:41:35,078 and they have it. 838 00:41:35,113 --> 00:41:37,805 Why would they possibly want to share it? 839 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,014 Anybody that does know the truth, 840 00:41:40,049 --> 00:41:41,602 I don't know their name. 841 00:41:41,637 --> 00:41:43,121 You don't know their name. 842 00:41:43,155 --> 00:41:45,054 They are not in the public right now. 843 00:41:45,088 --> 00:41:46,918 They are not speaking to anybody. 844 00:41:46,952 --> 00:41:48,471 They're not on camera. 845 00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:49,679 You don't know them. 846 00:41:49,714 --> 00:41:51,992 And that's where the dark programs, I think, come in. 847 00:41:52,026 --> 00:41:53,856 The Skunk Works and things like that. 848 00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:58,274 It's where the government and big business somehow are interlocked, 849 00:41:58,308 --> 00:42:02,312 that we don't know and there's somebody knows. 850 00:42:02,347 --> 00:42:05,281 Somebody is getting that money and it's going somewhere. 851 00:42:09,975 --> 00:42:12,564 When it came to investigating UFO mystery, 852 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:14,048 a lot of people used to say 853 00:42:14,083 --> 00:42:17,120 that all roads lead to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 854 00:42:17,155 --> 00:42:18,466 But in the last few years, 855 00:42:18,501 --> 00:42:21,124 and especially some of the more controversial subjects, 856 00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,782 a lot of the roads lead right here. 857 00:42:23,817 --> 00:42:26,129 NARRATOR: Recently declassified documents 858 00:42:26,164 --> 00:42:28,925 now shed light on the other aspects of BAASS 859 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,307 and information that may have originated 860 00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:33,792 from some of these older programs. 861 00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:35,345 Since the early 1900s, 862 00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:38,141 there have been reports of crashed UFOs. 863 00:42:38,176 --> 00:42:39,557 For over a century, 864 00:42:39,591 --> 00:42:42,456 hundreds of witnesses have shared their accounts. 865 00:42:42,490 --> 00:42:46,046 There were 119 alleged crash retrieval cases. 866 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,220 All we need is one to be true, 867 00:42:48,255 --> 00:42:50,913 and it's disclosure right there. All we need is one. 868 00:42:50,947 --> 00:42:53,985 So, some of the cases that come to mind 869 00:42:54,019 --> 00:42:58,230 are certainly 1941, Cape Girardeau, Missouri, 870 00:42:58,265 --> 00:43:00,163 where there were three bodies recovered. 871 00:43:00,198 --> 00:43:01,889 The craft was recovered as well. 872 00:43:01,924 --> 00:43:05,203 It's alleged that the bodies in the craft were stored, 873 00:43:05,237 --> 00:43:06,549 not at the Pentagon, 874 00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,965 because the Pentagon didn't exist in '41, 875 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,693 but in the basement of the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. 876 00:43:12,728 --> 00:43:14,937 So that's 1941, Cape Girardeau. 877 00:43:14,971 --> 00:43:16,973 Now, move fast forward six years, 878 00:43:17,008 --> 00:43:19,493 you've got July 2nd, 1947. 879 00:43:19,527 --> 00:43:21,978 You've got the Roswell Crash retrieval. 880 00:43:22,013 --> 00:43:23,911 There was a small egg-shaped craft 881 00:43:23,946 --> 00:43:26,086 the size of a Volkswagen with a dome on top. 882 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,466 There were five bodies recovered, 883 00:43:27,501 --> 00:43:29,468 one was still alive, so that's Roswell. 884 00:43:29,503 --> 00:43:31,505 Move forward in 1953, 885 00:43:31,539 --> 00:43:33,369 you've got the Kingman. 886 00:43:33,403 --> 00:43:38,685 This is not the crash retrieval, but it is a forced landing. 887 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,583 There were four beings associated 888 00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:43,275 with that particular retrieval operation. 889 00:43:43,310 --> 00:43:46,658 They were all live, they did establish contact. 890 00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:49,730 That craft was allegedly brought to the remote test site in Nevada. 891 00:43:49,765 --> 00:43:54,355 Now, prior to that, we've got the '48 Aztec crash retrieval. 892 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:58,187 This was a 99.9 foot diameter, disk-shaped craft, 893 00:43:58,221 --> 00:44:02,570 that had kind of a silver outer exterior color. 894 00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:05,988 There were two bodies recovered on the upper dome of the craft 895 00:44:06,022 --> 00:44:09,267 in the central part of the rim of the craft. On the interior, 896 00:44:09,301 --> 00:44:12,822 there were another 14 bodies for a grand total of 16 bodies. 897 00:44:12,857 --> 00:44:17,137 That craft was allegedly brought back to Los Alamos, reassembled, 898 00:44:17,171 --> 00:44:21,589 and then the retrieval operation or the reverse engineering operation 899 00:44:21,624 --> 00:44:23,005 began at that point. 900 00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,697 These are some of the retrieval operations 901 00:44:25,732 --> 00:44:29,701 in cases that come to mind that, if we could get one of these, 902 00:44:29,736 --> 00:44:34,568 the evidence for one of these, it would push this field of ufology forward. 903 00:44:34,602 --> 00:44:38,192 There's a red line in this whole process that you're not allowed to cross. 904 00:44:38,227 --> 00:44:41,368 And the red line is, well, the conspiracy line. 905 00:44:41,402 --> 00:44:44,026 The red line is basically crash retrievals, 906 00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:46,200 because if you acknowledge 907 00:44:46,235 --> 00:44:48,582 that there had been retrievals of this technology, 908 00:44:49,134 --> 00:44:50,480 and bodies, 909 00:44:50,515 --> 00:44:54,001 there is no way to avoid the obvious conclusion 910 00:44:54,036 --> 00:44:55,554 that this is a conspiracy. 911 00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:59,662 Areas of materials recovery to the extent that they have been 912 00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:03,321 recovered in crashes, are heavily classified, 913 00:45:03,355 --> 00:45:05,530 so we don't have access to that material. 914 00:45:07,946 --> 00:45:10,880 NARRATOR: We know about programs that have existed to study 915 00:45:10,915 --> 00:45:14,504 and attempt to reverse engineer this technology. 916 00:45:14,539 --> 00:45:17,749 The evidence has been circumstantial at best. 917 00:45:17,784 --> 00:45:19,475 Until now. 918 00:45:19,509 --> 00:45:22,616 Included in the 2017 media flurry, 919 00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:25,757 was an additional story byThe New York Times. 920 00:45:25,792 --> 00:45:28,726 And they took the conversation right to the edge, 921 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,590 of crash retrievals. Right to the precipice. 922 00:45:31,625 --> 00:45:33,869 If they took one more step, they're going off that cliff 923 00:45:33,903 --> 00:45:36,492 and we're talking about genuine UFO cash retrievals. 924 00:45:36,526 --> 00:45:38,632 What we do know, and what we put in The New York Times, 925 00:45:38,666 --> 00:45:42,429 and I'm pretty proud of this because it was as far as we could go, 926 00:45:42,463 --> 00:45:48,676 that was fully documented, was that a congressional committee's staff 927 00:45:48,711 --> 00:45:55,614 were briefed on with slides referring to material recovery. 928 00:45:55,649 --> 00:45:59,239 Apparent material recovery from crashed UFOs... 929 00:46:00,033 --> 00:46:02,829 off-Earth, off-planet vehicles. 930 00:46:02,863 --> 00:46:05,693 DOLAN: They quoted Eric Davis, they quoted Harry Reid, 931 00:46:05,728 --> 00:46:08,696 both very positively 932 00:46:08,731 --> 00:46:12,045 about UFO crash... Can you imagine what that's like 933 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,910 for The New York Times to talk about UFO crash retrievals? 934 00:46:14,944 --> 00:46:17,257 NARRATOR: Senator Harry Reid was quoted as saying 935 00:46:17,291 --> 00:46:20,363 that materials recovered from off-world craft 936 00:46:20,398 --> 00:46:23,021 were studied as part of the AAWSAP Program. 937 00:46:23,056 --> 00:46:26,059 After the story broke, Senator Reid strongly objected 938 00:46:26,093 --> 00:46:29,717 to some of the wording of the story and demanded a retraction. 939 00:46:29,752 --> 00:46:31,961 The verbiage was changed slightly, 940 00:46:31,996 --> 00:46:35,896 butThe Times still sticks by its original reporting. 941 00:46:35,931 --> 00:46:39,866 Stories in The New York Times were fully documented, with named sources. 942 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,283 We didn't put in information that hid the origin. 943 00:46:43,317 --> 00:46:44,663 It was very transparent. 944 00:46:44,698 --> 00:46:46,320 We said where we got the information, 945 00:46:46,355 --> 00:46:47,701 we had briefing slides. 946 00:46:47,735 --> 00:46:50,531 One was put into a story that we wrote inThe Times. 947 00:46:50,566 --> 00:46:53,880 We actually had the slide, you know, 948 00:46:53,914 --> 00:46:58,332 copied and and pictured in The New York Times. 949 00:46:58,367 --> 00:47:01,577 NARRATOR: Dr Eric Davis again made an appearance. 950 00:47:01,611 --> 00:47:04,822 This time, it was reported that he delivered a presentation 951 00:47:04,856 --> 00:47:07,031 behind the closed doors of Congress, 952 00:47:07,065 --> 00:47:10,172 acknowledging that some materials were recovered 953 00:47:10,206 --> 00:47:12,519 from off-world craft. 954 00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:15,694 Dr. Davis is quoted elsewhere as saying, 955 00:47:15,729 --> 00:47:18,732 "We have crash retrievals and they've been analyzed. 956 00:47:18,766 --> 00:47:22,667 "The program was terminated for lack of progress in reverse engineering." 957 00:47:23,633 --> 00:47:25,670 Because there is no way at that point 958 00:47:25,704 --> 00:47:28,362 that you can pretend there's something out there, 959 00:47:28,397 --> 00:47:30,986 but we don't know what they are. Which has been a little 960 00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:33,747 pretend game that everyone's been playing all this time. 961 00:47:33,781 --> 00:47:35,576 Elizondo plays that game 962 00:47:35,611 --> 00:47:36,750 'cause he has to. 963 00:47:36,784 --> 00:47:38,856 'Cause he knows how far he's allowed to go. 964 00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:41,686 I'm not a whistleblower, and as far as a leaker, 965 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,171 I'll be damned if someone's going to call me a leaker, because a leaker's 966 00:47:44,206 --> 00:47:45,759 somebody who takes classified information 967 00:47:45,793 --> 00:47:48,417 and provides it in an unauthorized manner 968 00:47:48,451 --> 00:47:50,695 for the purpose of disclosure. 969 00:47:50,729 --> 00:47:53,042 I've never done that, and I never will do that. 970 00:47:53,077 --> 00:47:55,665 Do you think the U.S. Government has 971 00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:58,082 debris from a UFO in its possession? 972 00:47:58,116 --> 00:48:01,879 Unfortunately, Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA. 973 00:48:01,913 --> 00:48:04,467 I really can't go into a lot more detail than that. 974 00:48:04,502 --> 00:48:07,885 -Okay. -But simply put, yes. 975 00:48:10,335 --> 00:48:12,372 NARRATOR: Chris Melon, former undersecretary 976 00:48:12,406 --> 00:48:17,066 of Defense for Intelligence, said in aWashington Post Op Ed, 977 00:48:17,101 --> 00:48:20,449 that the government had not been studying the UFO topic, 978 00:48:20,483 --> 00:48:23,693 and because of his position, he would know if it was. 979 00:48:23,728 --> 00:48:28,043 But when we pressed him on it, he made a stunning statement. 980 00:48:28,077 --> 00:48:33,358 There's a bona fide issue there, and I understand that... 981 00:48:33,393 --> 00:48:36,914 I was part of a process that was supposedly reviewing 982 00:48:36,948 --> 00:48:40,193 all of the Defense Department special access programs, 983 00:48:40,227 --> 00:48:44,611 and I'd also... People don't generally understand this taxonomy, 984 00:48:44,645 --> 00:48:48,304 but there is a world of programs within the Defense Department 985 00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:51,411 that is entirely separate and distinct from the Intelligence community, 986 00:48:51,445 --> 00:48:53,585 and is not shared with the Intelligence community. 987 00:48:53,620 --> 00:48:55,277 And to some extent, vice versa. 988 00:48:55,311 --> 00:48:58,418 In addition, there's a group of programs at the Department of Energy, 989 00:48:58,452 --> 00:49:00,868 and again, those are not generally shared. 990 00:49:00,903 --> 00:49:04,424 So, there's sort of three galaxies which intersect to some degree 991 00:49:04,458 --> 00:49:06,944 of very tightly held programs. 992 00:49:06,978 --> 00:49:13,019 I was very deep on two of the tree, had some access to the third. 993 00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:16,401 But as I've often said to people, "You don't know, what you don't know." 994 00:49:16,436 --> 00:49:22,304 And you know, there is a possibility that there is some very small... 995 00:49:22,338 --> 00:49:26,998 tightly held close hold group, for example, that has some crash debris or something, 996 00:49:27,033 --> 00:49:28,275 and was working that... 997 00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:31,037 The rest of the department, and even we didn't know about 998 00:49:31,071 --> 00:49:33,798 at the Special Access Program Oversight Committee. 999 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,252 So now there are reports of perhaps debris. 1000 00:49:39,286 --> 00:49:42,427 Debris left over from UFOs. 1001 00:49:42,462 --> 00:49:45,396 NARRATOR: Even with thinly veiled admissions from those in the know, 1002 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:49,883 and evidence pointing to corporations having received materials to study, 1003 00:49:49,917 --> 00:49:53,059 details about any of these physical materials 1004 00:49:53,093 --> 00:49:54,922 have been unverifiable. 1005 00:49:54,957 --> 00:49:56,959 Recently, that changed. 1006 00:50:01,446 --> 00:50:05,795 UFO investigator Anthony Regalia finally received a reply 1007 00:50:05,830 --> 00:50:09,696 to a Freedom of Information Act request that he filed back in 2017, 1008 00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:15,702 pertaining to "Physical debris recovered by personnel of the Department of Defense 1009 00:50:15,736 --> 00:50:19,050 "as residue, flotsam, shot-off material 1010 00:50:19,085 --> 00:50:22,640 "or crashed UAP, or unidentified flying objects." 1011 00:50:22,674 --> 00:50:25,332 NARRATOR: After two years of going back and forth, 1012 00:50:25,367 --> 00:50:27,403 and Ragalia's threat of lawsuits, 1013 00:50:27,438 --> 00:50:30,475 the DIA admitted that it had documents 1014 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:33,961 responsive to the request on recovered debris, 1015 00:50:33,996 --> 00:50:38,483 and its analysis and a program under which it was administered. 1016 00:50:38,518 --> 00:50:43,592 Included in the FOIA release, are reports about a variety of advanced materials. 1017 00:50:43,626 --> 00:50:47,320 The reports speculated about how they may be created, 1018 00:50:47,354 --> 00:50:49,356 and what they may be capable of. 1019 00:50:49,391 --> 00:50:52,670 One is a well-known alloy, called Nitinol. 1020 00:50:52,704 --> 00:50:56,950 It's a shapeable, memory retaining titanium alloy. 1021 00:50:56,984 --> 00:51:02,059 Nitinol enjoys wide use today in a variety of applications. 1022 00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:05,614 But its capabilities bare similarity to the many accounts 1023 00:51:05,648 --> 00:51:09,238 about the so called Roswell memory metal. 1024 00:51:09,273 --> 00:51:10,895 Hey, is it from a crash? 1025 00:51:12,517 --> 00:51:13,553 How do you know about that? 1026 00:51:13,587 --> 00:51:14,761 We heard about it on the radio. 1027 00:51:14,795 --> 00:51:16,107 Everybody's talking about it. 1028 00:51:20,180 --> 00:51:21,078 Abracadabra. 1029 00:51:24,184 --> 00:51:26,393 How'd it do that? 1030 00:51:26,428 --> 00:51:30,156 NARRATOR: The origins of Nitinol help make a case for stories 1031 00:51:30,190 --> 00:51:32,019 of extraterrestrial technology 1032 00:51:32,054 --> 00:51:35,161 being recovered and delivered to science and industry. 1033 00:51:35,195 --> 00:51:40,614 It was supposedly invented in a naval weapons research lab in 1959. 1034 00:51:40,649 --> 00:51:44,411 But its origins have been traced back even further, to a corporation 1035 00:51:44,446 --> 00:51:47,034 called Battelle Memorial Institute. 1036 00:51:47,069 --> 00:51:49,071 Since the late 1940s, 1037 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:52,557 Battelle maintained a contract to analyze metal samples 1038 00:51:52,592 --> 00:51:55,802 provided by Wright Patterson Air Force Base. 1039 00:51:55,836 --> 00:52:00,565 Another is a class of materials called metallic glass. 1040 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,257 [COMPUTER BEEPING] 1041 00:52:04,362 --> 00:52:06,675 Transparent aluminum? 1042 00:52:06,709 --> 00:52:09,333 That's the ticket, laddie. 1043 00:52:09,367 --> 00:52:12,681 NARRATOR: The material described in the Star Trek filmVoyage Home 1044 00:52:12,715 --> 00:52:16,547 in 1986 actually exists. 1045 00:52:16,581 --> 00:52:18,756 We find upon further research, 1046 00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:21,931 that the original patents for this type of metallic glass 1047 00:52:21,966 --> 00:52:24,865 was initially applied for in 1981 1048 00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,489 by the Raytheon Corporation. 1049 00:52:27,523 --> 00:52:30,492 These guys in the Lockheed and TRW, 1050 00:52:30,526 --> 00:52:32,977 and McDonnell Douglas or Boeing, 1051 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,946 General Electric, Raytheon... 1052 00:52:38,396 --> 00:52:42,849 Look, there's no way they're going to voluntarily let this happen. 1053 00:52:45,369 --> 00:52:46,646 NARRATOR: There's more. 1054 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,821 We now enter the stunning world of meta materials. 1055 00:52:49,856 --> 00:52:54,378 In this recording, from an interview Lue Elizondo gave to the MUFON journal. 1056 00:52:54,412 --> 00:52:58,554 He discusses the finer points of the materials claims. 1057 00:52:58,589 --> 00:53:02,696 ELIZONDO: So, it was never about unidentified metal alloys. 1058 00:53:02,731 --> 00:53:04,836 Any second year metal artist will tell you 1059 00:53:04,871 --> 00:53:07,253 elements are elements, and we can figure it out. 1060 00:53:07,287 --> 00:53:11,464 What was actually discussed was certain meta materials 1061 00:53:11,498 --> 00:53:18,574 in which they're isotopic ratios at the molecular level are so unique, 1062 00:53:18,609 --> 00:53:22,820 and so precise, based on the complexity 1063 00:53:22,854 --> 00:53:27,031 that the origins of those materials remain unknown. 1064 00:53:27,065 --> 00:53:30,448 If we do encounter extraterrestrial materials, 1065 00:53:30,483 --> 00:53:33,969 they would have isotopic ratios that are not found on the earth 1066 00:53:34,003 --> 00:53:36,489 because of their exposure to cosmic rays, 1067 00:53:36,523 --> 00:53:40,251 different kinds of manufacturer they would differ from us. 1068 00:53:40,286 --> 00:53:46,223 And so that's one way to analyze the fact that these are, in fact extraterrestrial, 1069 00:53:46,257 --> 00:53:48,915 because they have different isotopic ratios. 1070 00:53:51,849 --> 00:53:55,162 NARRATOR: There are more space age materials described in the reports 1071 00:53:55,197 --> 00:53:57,958 that the Defense Intelligence Agency acknowledges. 1072 00:53:57,993 --> 00:54:01,065 One type may be used to slow down light. 1073 00:54:01,099 --> 00:54:03,826 And even bring light to a complete standstill. 1074 00:54:03,861 --> 00:54:09,729 Another may induce invisibility by manipulating refraction, reflectivity, 1075 00:54:09,763 --> 00:54:11,938 and increasing light absorption. 1076 00:54:11,972 --> 00:54:15,321 Meta materials allow you to, in principle, 1077 00:54:15,355 --> 00:54:20,084 make objects invisible. In principle, allow you to stop light. 1078 00:54:20,118 --> 00:54:22,224 In principle, allow you to magnify things 1079 00:54:22,259 --> 00:54:25,192 beyond what we can do with present day technology. 1080 00:54:25,227 --> 00:54:28,023 We can do that in the microwave range. 1081 00:54:28,057 --> 00:54:31,647 We have not yet done it in the optical frequencies. 1082 00:54:31,682 --> 00:54:34,616 NARRATOR: Another has the interesting ability to compress 1083 00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:36,549 electromagnetic energy. 1084 00:54:36,583 --> 00:54:38,896 Things that we would consider impossible 1085 00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:40,932 would become child's play 1086 00:54:40,967 --> 00:54:46,628 if you have a technology that is centuries more advanced than us. 1087 00:54:46,662 --> 00:54:50,321 NARRATOR: Still another exhibits a particular tunable resonance, 1088 00:54:50,356 --> 00:54:53,359 which was likely determined during fabrication. 1089 00:54:53,393 --> 00:54:56,707 You see, if these objects come from a civilization 1090 00:54:56,741 --> 00:55:00,055 more advanced than ours, they have mastered the art 1091 00:55:00,089 --> 00:55:03,679 of manipulating individual atoms. 1092 00:55:03,714 --> 00:55:07,269 NARRATOR: The reports on these materials have something in common. 1093 00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:10,307 They all talk about what the materials might do, 1094 00:55:10,341 --> 00:55:12,343 and their possible uses. 1095 00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,690 This seems to be an indirect confirmation 1096 00:55:14,725 --> 00:55:18,453 that we didn't create them, and we're not sure what they do. 1097 00:55:21,041 --> 00:55:24,907 And they have to be analyzed on several levels. 1098 00:55:24,942 --> 00:55:27,738 First, they have to be analyzed spectroscopically. 1099 00:55:27,772 --> 00:55:30,016 So we know what they're made of. 1100 00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:34,538 So let's say that there is... There are materials 1101 00:55:34,572 --> 00:55:37,195 that some other civilization has created 1102 00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:40,440 and that they have atomic grade printing 1103 00:55:40,475 --> 00:55:43,029 that we don't have today, 1104 00:55:43,063 --> 00:55:47,033 the only way to understand it is to de-assemble it atom by atom. 1105 00:55:47,067 --> 00:55:50,692 NARRATOR: Dr. Gary Nolan is a scientist at Stanford University. 1106 00:55:50,726 --> 00:55:54,868 He publicly stated that a new technique for mass spectrometry, 1107 00:55:54,903 --> 00:55:57,284 that he developed attracted the attention 1108 00:55:57,319 --> 00:56:00,322 of those in possession of UFO materials. 1109 00:56:00,357 --> 00:56:03,118 GARY NOLAN: Well, there is one technology 1110 00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:06,570 that's in my lab called Secondary Ion Mass Spec, 1111 00:56:06,604 --> 00:56:11,437 and we developed a company around it and the technology for using it 1112 00:56:11,471 --> 00:56:15,820 to read biopsy material from patients, right? 1113 00:56:15,855 --> 00:56:19,272 And we had a way of labeling the biopsies 1114 00:56:19,306 --> 00:56:25,658 with metal tags delivered via antibodies, and that would light up the tissue 1115 00:56:25,692 --> 00:56:29,903 in a way that would tell you something about the distribution of those proteins 1116 00:56:29,938 --> 00:56:32,596 in cancer cells and immune system cells. 1117 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:35,322 That's a very successful technology that's worked very well. 1118 00:56:35,357 --> 00:56:39,672 It turns out that it was tuned to look at metals... 1119 00:56:39,706 --> 00:56:42,088 right, because we were using the metal tags 1120 00:56:42,122 --> 00:56:47,127 and so when in discussions with Jacques and others, 1121 00:56:47,162 --> 00:56:49,302 that they said they had these pieces of metal. 1122 00:56:49,336 --> 00:56:51,580 Well, I have an instrument that's perfectly tuned 1123 00:56:51,615 --> 00:56:53,548 to look at metals, so let's do it. 1124 00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:57,897 But what that stuff consisted of and why they think it's off-planet, 1125 00:56:57,931 --> 00:57:00,347 and, you know, what the testing showed about 1126 00:57:00,382 --> 00:57:05,007 the possibility that nothing like that could appear on Earth. 1127 00:57:05,042 --> 00:57:07,872 That's all stuff we were not able to get access to. 1128 00:57:07,907 --> 00:57:09,149 We don't know. 1129 00:57:09,184 --> 00:57:11,048 NARRATOR: Upon release of the FOIA request, 1130 00:57:11,082 --> 00:57:15,639 there was evidence of internal commotion inside the DIA and the Pentagon. 1131 00:57:15,673 --> 00:57:17,157 You know, the powers that be... 1132 00:57:17,192 --> 00:57:18,607 I mean, there are such people. 1133 00:57:18,642 --> 00:57:20,264 I think they realized 1134 00:57:20,298 --> 00:57:22,059 "All right. You just went, you went actually, as far as you can go, 1135 00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:23,578 "and in fact, you went a little too far. 1136 00:57:23,612 --> 00:57:25,234 "We're going to dial it back." 1137 00:57:25,269 --> 00:57:27,996 NARRATOR: Susan Gough, a Pentagon spokesperson, 1138 00:57:28,030 --> 00:57:29,722 said that although she was aware 1139 00:57:29,756 --> 00:57:34,002 of the social media chatter, the information provided by the DIA 1140 00:57:34,036 --> 00:57:37,730 actually relates in some way to an advanced weapons program 1141 00:57:37,764 --> 00:57:39,525 and not UFO items. 1142 00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:41,216 But if you start with different assumptions 1143 00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:43,114 about how something might operate, 1144 00:57:43,149 --> 00:57:46,808 you can come up with things that another 1145 00:57:46,842 --> 00:57:51,951 equally advanced civilization, America, let's say, or Western civilization, 1146 00:57:51,985 --> 00:57:53,884 doesn't understand how it works. 1147 00:57:53,918 --> 00:57:56,818 But that doesn't mean it came from E.T. 1148 00:57:56,852 --> 00:57:59,890 But I suspect that Freedom of Information Act 1149 00:57:59,924 --> 00:58:01,547 is talking about something a little different. 1150 00:58:04,722 --> 00:58:07,760 NARRATOR: Some of the main players in the material story 1151 00:58:07,794 --> 00:58:12,558 were making new statements that changed previously reported facts. 1152 00:58:12,592 --> 00:58:13,420 Right. This is a counter... 1153 00:58:13,455 --> 00:58:15,388 This is The Empire Strikes Back. 1154 00:58:15,422 --> 00:58:18,978 This is what we're seeing. You're seeing the major establishment, 1155 00:58:19,012 --> 00:58:21,118 which was on the back foot for over three years 1156 00:58:21,152 --> 00:58:24,121 because of the offensive of the UFO faction. 1157 00:58:24,155 --> 00:58:26,986 They were on retreat. They've gathered their resources. 1158 00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:29,022 They're like, you know, "We don't really want... 1159 00:58:29,057 --> 00:58:31,577 "We can't go any farther than we've gone." 1160 00:58:31,611 --> 00:58:34,234 Harry Reid walked it back as far as with The New York Times 1161 00:58:34,269 --> 00:58:39,101 about Lockheed having artifacts and so, they get these phone calls. 1162 00:58:40,033 --> 00:58:41,828 I mean, why else... 1163 00:58:41,863 --> 00:58:44,831 You know, catch yourself after the fact and go, 1164 00:58:44,866 --> 00:58:45,763 "I should have never said that." 1165 00:58:45,798 --> 00:58:47,006 And there's a pattern here. 1166 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:52,908 It always pertains to physical evidence. 1167 00:58:52,943 --> 00:58:54,634 And in our New York Timesstory, 1168 00:58:54,669 --> 00:58:57,464 we said that a hangar was built 1169 00:58:58,638 --> 00:59:03,747 to contain materials, okay. 1170 00:59:03,781 --> 00:59:08,130 We didn't say that materials were obtained and put in the hangar. 1171 00:59:08,165 --> 00:59:10,581 You did an interview with Jesse Michaels. 1172 00:59:10,616 --> 00:59:14,171 -In that interview, you laid out some of the materials. -Mmm-hmm. 1173 00:59:14,205 --> 00:59:16,553 Very excitingly, we have parts... 1174 00:59:16,587 --> 00:59:19,797 Okay, the parts were a little anti-climactic and small, 1175 00:59:19,832 --> 00:59:23,076 but he claims to have much bigger parts that we can't see 1176 00:59:23,111 --> 00:59:25,458 due to national security sensitivities. 1177 00:59:25,492 --> 00:59:28,461 But then when you did the interview with Lex, 1178 00:59:28,495 --> 00:59:32,223 you said that she had materials just from, like, Jacques Vilet 1179 00:59:32,258 --> 00:59:33,915 which obviously wouldn't be classified, 1180 00:59:33,949 --> 00:59:36,573 and from TTSA, which wouldn't be classified. 1181 00:59:36,607 --> 00:59:41,508 There's two classes of materials that I've been given by people, 1182 00:59:41,543 --> 00:59:43,925 and they're not given by, like, the government or anything. 1183 00:59:43,959 --> 00:59:46,065 So have you studied classified materials, 1184 00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:47,238 but you just don't have them? 1185 00:59:47,273 --> 00:59:48,826 I just shouldn't say anything more. 1186 00:59:48,861 --> 00:59:50,000 You shouldn't say anything about that. 1187 00:59:50,034 --> 00:59:51,484 Okay, all right. 1188 00:59:51,518 --> 00:59:53,210 You can put that on there. I just can't say anything more. 1189 00:59:53,244 --> 00:59:54,521 Right. No, that's fine. 1190 00:59:54,556 --> 00:59:57,283 It might have been an accidental truth moment. 1191 01:00:01,805 --> 01:00:06,741 NARRATOR: FOIA responses are based on reacting to very specific wording. 1192 01:00:06,775 --> 01:00:10,468 The FOIA response from the DIA specifically refers 1193 01:00:10,503 --> 01:00:14,956 to recovered materials from UFOs being studied at Bigelow Aerospace. 1194 01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:20,133 This is official confirmation that these studies indeed occurred. 1195 01:00:20,168 --> 01:00:21,963 Bigelow Aerospace is massive. 1196 01:00:21,997 --> 01:00:25,069 It's surrounded on most sides by these gigantic vacant lots. 1197 01:00:25,104 --> 01:00:29,211 It's surrounded by multiple layers of fencing, including barbed wire, 1198 01:00:29,246 --> 01:00:33,146 video surveillance, 24-hour security guards everywhere. 1199 01:00:33,181 --> 01:00:35,355 This place is a fortress. 1200 01:00:35,390 --> 01:00:40,602 NARRATOR: Multiple reports also seemed to confirm the presence of materials at the facility. 1201 01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:44,295 But after the release of the documents, the story changed. 1202 01:00:44,330 --> 01:00:48,403 REPORTER: For years, one of the secret studies was carried out by BAASS, 1203 01:00:48,437 --> 01:00:51,958 a Las Vegas operation hidden within Bigelow Aerospace. 1204 01:00:51,993 --> 01:00:55,237 Documents first reported by the I-Team show that BAASS 1205 01:00:55,272 --> 01:00:59,000 landed a contract with the DIA, and one of the objectives 1206 01:00:59,034 --> 01:01:01,623 was to study so called meta materials. 1207 01:01:01,658 --> 01:01:03,970 Multiple sources have confirmed to us 1208 01:01:04,005 --> 01:01:07,456 there was a weird piece of something at the Bigelow plant. 1209 01:01:07,491 --> 01:01:11,806 New York Timesreported that you modified your facility here 1210 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,154 in order to house some material from somewhere else. 1211 01:01:15,741 --> 01:01:16,673 Did you ever have it? 1212 01:01:18,122 --> 01:01:20,090 -Never had any. -Did you ever see it? 1213 01:01:20,711 --> 01:01:22,955 Um... 1214 01:01:22,989 --> 01:01:27,028 But... I... you know, do you see... 1215 01:01:27,062 --> 01:01:28,167 Do you see... 1216 01:01:30,928 --> 01:01:36,071 It's the old Raiders of the Lost Arkwarehouse scene. 1217 01:01:36,106 --> 01:01:37,728 "We've got our top people working on it." 1218 01:01:37,763 --> 01:01:39,765 "Who are your top people?" "Oh, they're top." 1219 01:01:39,799 --> 01:01:43,907 NARRATOR: In March 2022, the Defense Intelligence Agency 1220 01:01:43,941 --> 01:01:47,358 responded to another FOIA request that demanded information 1221 01:01:47,393 --> 01:01:50,465 about the work of AATIP and its previous versions. 1222 01:01:50,499 --> 01:01:55,470 The result was 1500 pages that included 38 independent papers 1223 01:01:55,504 --> 01:01:58,059 about potential advanced technology. 1224 01:01:58,093 --> 01:02:02,201 The authors of some of these reports, are many of the same people 1225 01:02:02,235 --> 01:02:05,031 that have been involved in secret UFO programs 1226 01:02:05,066 --> 01:02:07,378 all the way back to the late 1960s. 1227 01:02:07,413 --> 01:02:12,729 These reports came in the form of defense intelligence reference documents. 1228 01:02:12,763 --> 01:02:15,490 Some of the technologies that were explored 1229 01:02:15,524 --> 01:02:18,458 include advanced nuclear propulsion, 1230 01:02:18,493 --> 01:02:21,530 for manned deep space missions. 1231 01:02:21,565 --> 01:02:24,326 Aneutronic Fusion Propulsion, 1232 01:02:24,361 --> 01:02:28,227 Pulsed High-Power Microwave Technology, 1233 01:02:28,261 --> 01:02:31,748 Antigravity for Aerospace Applications. 1234 01:02:31,782 --> 01:02:35,268 I think when talking about extraterrestrial civilizations, 1235 01:02:35,303 --> 01:02:37,995 we have to be open to the fact that their technology 1236 01:02:38,030 --> 01:02:42,275 is thousands of years more advanced than our technology. 1237 01:02:42,310 --> 01:02:45,589 But then the question is, is it possible that we, 1238 01:02:45,623 --> 01:02:51,112 that we humans can also partake of some of these advanced technologies? 1239 01:02:51,146 --> 01:02:55,012 NARRATOR: Space-Communication Implications of Quantum Entanglement 1240 01:02:55,047 --> 01:03:01,053 and Nonlocality, High-Frequency Gravitational Wave Communications. 1241 01:03:01,087 --> 01:03:03,883 I take two objects, 1242 01:03:03,918 --> 01:03:07,369 two particles that are quantumly entangled, 1243 01:03:07,404 --> 01:03:10,787 and if I do something to this one, this one responds. 1244 01:03:10,821 --> 01:03:14,307 And if you separate those two by a foot... 1245 01:03:14,342 --> 01:03:16,585 when I do something here, something happens here. 1246 01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:18,001 But something even more magical happens 1247 01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:20,969 that when I take these objects, and I put them one here 1248 01:03:21,004 --> 01:03:23,696 and one at the farthest end of the visible universe, 1249 01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:26,872 that direction, 13.5 billion light years, 1250 01:03:26,906 --> 01:03:28,149 and I take the other particle, 1251 01:03:28,183 --> 01:03:32,636 I put it in that direction, 13.5 billion light years away, 1252 01:03:32,670 --> 01:03:34,465 when I do this, 1253 01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:37,952 this one responds instantaneously. 1254 01:03:37,986 --> 01:03:42,611 NARRATOR: Traversable Wormholes, Stargates and Negative Energy. 1255 01:03:42,646 --> 01:03:46,063 Special relativity says you cannot break the light barrier. 1256 01:03:46,098 --> 01:03:49,584 But special relativity has a loophole. 1257 01:03:49,618 --> 01:03:52,104 The loophole is general relativity, 1258 01:03:52,138 --> 01:03:53,726 the theory of gravity, 1259 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,385 whereby you can bend time and space into a pretzel 1260 01:03:57,419 --> 01:04:00,250 if you have enough matter and energy. 1261 01:04:00,284 --> 01:04:06,118 An energy which we won't have, perhaps for another 100,000 to one million years. 1262 01:04:06,152 --> 01:04:08,396 So it's not for us. 1263 01:04:08,430 --> 01:04:11,295 Perhaps for an extraterrestrial civilization, 1264 01:04:11,330 --> 01:04:13,332 but it's not for us. 1265 01:04:13,366 --> 01:04:15,575 NARRATOR: Warp Drive, Dark Energy 1266 01:04:15,610 --> 01:04:18,337 and the manipulation of extra dimensions. 1267 01:04:18,371 --> 01:04:23,756 We have to be open to the possibility that there are other dimensions, 1268 01:04:23,790 --> 01:04:25,240 and shortcuts. 1269 01:04:25,275 --> 01:04:29,072 Perhaps shortcuts between different universes. 1270 01:04:29,106 --> 01:04:30,418 Now, of course, moving through 1271 01:04:30,452 --> 01:04:33,283 these higher dimensions, would require a technology 1272 01:04:33,317 --> 01:04:36,217 much more advanced than anything we have. 1273 01:04:36,251 --> 01:04:40,462 NARRATOR: Concepts for extracting energy from the quantum vacuum. 1274 01:04:40,497 --> 01:04:42,775 You would have to be a very advanced civilization 1275 01:04:42,809 --> 01:04:46,572 to get net usable energy from nothing. 1276 01:04:46,606 --> 01:04:48,850 In other words, it's not for us. 1277 01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:52,716 That doesn't mean an advanced civilization can't do it. 1278 01:04:52,750 --> 01:04:56,133 NARRATOR: Quantum computing, and utilizing organic molecules 1279 01:04:56,168 --> 01:04:58,687 in automation technology. 1280 01:04:58,722 --> 01:05:02,346 Technological approaches to controlling external devices, 1281 01:05:02,381 --> 01:05:05,004 in the absence of limb operated interfaces. 1282 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:09,491 Our most advanced understanding of the brain comes from BCI, 1283 01:05:09,526 --> 01:05:12,253 Brain Computer Interface. 1284 01:05:12,287 --> 01:05:15,981 We can take a chip, put it on the surface of the brain, 1285 01:05:16,015 --> 01:05:19,087 have that chip connected to a laptop computer 1286 01:05:19,122 --> 01:05:23,678 that then analyzes the impulses of the brain and deciphers it, 1287 01:05:23,712 --> 01:05:26,750 and then uses it to control something. 1288 01:05:26,784 --> 01:05:29,753 And so you can imagine what we can do today 1289 01:05:29,787 --> 01:05:33,136 and then extrapolate to the future. 1290 01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:36,760 NARRATOR: Aerospace applications of programmable matter. 1291 01:05:36,794 --> 01:05:40,626 If you could design something, atom by atom, 1292 01:05:40,660 --> 01:05:44,078 and position things atom by atom, 1293 01:05:44,112 --> 01:05:47,598 then there's a lot more we could do with material science 1294 01:05:47,633 --> 01:05:49,497 than we can do today. 1295 01:05:49,531 --> 01:05:54,709 NARRATOR: Ultra capacitors as energy and power storage devices. 1296 01:05:54,743 --> 01:05:57,815 Role of superconductors in gravity research. 1297 01:05:57,850 --> 01:06:04,270 Most of what we create today, in even the superconductor areas 1298 01:06:04,305 --> 01:06:07,066 is basically recipes. 1299 01:06:07,101 --> 01:06:08,861 They are not designs. 1300 01:06:08,895 --> 01:06:12,934 NARRATOR: Many of these technologies are beyond the realm of current science. 1301 01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:15,178 These technologies are discussed 1302 01:06:15,212 --> 01:06:19,078 as if someone knows that they are entirely possible, 1303 01:06:19,113 --> 01:06:22,288 even in some stage of successful development. 1304 01:06:22,323 --> 01:06:25,912 I will tell you unequivocally if a man like Robert Bigelow 1305 01:06:25,947 --> 01:06:29,640 were to ask you, to come on board and to do something, 1306 01:06:29,675 --> 01:06:35,439 man, I would do it in the blink of an eye. 1307 01:06:35,474 --> 01:06:37,441 It would be almost reflexive. 1308 01:06:37,476 --> 01:06:39,236 When do we start? Let's go. 1309 01:06:39,271 --> 01:06:41,514 He's a good man, and he's also a patriot. 1310 01:06:41,549 --> 01:06:43,792 Machinery really does exist. 1311 01:06:45,070 --> 01:06:47,037 Does exist. 1312 01:06:47,072 --> 01:06:53,147 That the problem has been the inability to back engineer 1313 01:06:53,181 --> 01:06:57,979 and I kind of think that some... 1314 01:06:58,014 --> 01:07:01,465 Some things require a weightless environment. 1315 01:07:10,785 --> 01:07:12,476 NARRATOR: It is generally accepted 1316 01:07:12,511 --> 01:07:15,548 that the New Narrative broke in late 2017. 1317 01:07:15,583 --> 01:07:19,828 It was actually Robert Bigelow, who made spellbinding revelations 1318 01:07:19,863 --> 01:07:24,074 before anybody knew that he was involved in government contracts 1319 01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:25,627 to study UFOs. 1320 01:07:29,355 --> 01:07:30,908 Do you believe in aliens? 1321 01:07:30,943 --> 01:07:33,773 I am absolutely convinced. That's all there is to it. 1322 01:07:33,808 --> 01:07:36,776 Do you also believe that UFOs have come to Earth? 1323 01:07:36,811 --> 01:07:40,366 There has been, and is an existing presence an E.T. presence. 1324 01:07:40,401 --> 01:07:42,575 You have the interview that Robert Bigelow did on 60 Minutes. 1325 01:07:42,610 --> 01:07:45,440 Really, an amazing interview. 1326 01:07:45,475 --> 01:07:49,927 This is one of the most knowledgeable people on this planet, 1327 01:07:49,962 --> 01:07:52,275 in my view, on the subject of UFOs, 1328 01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:55,450 He's also a billionaire, and he's also got a lot of influence in this world. 1329 01:07:55,485 --> 01:07:58,074 And here he is saying, aliens are real 1330 01:07:58,108 --> 01:08:00,455 and indeed they are actually walking among us. 1331 01:08:00,490 --> 01:08:03,044 NARRATOR: His unshakable statement regarding the reality 1332 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,460 of an extraterrestrial presence, 1333 01:08:05,495 --> 01:08:08,014 drew some media reaction. 1334 01:08:08,049 --> 01:08:10,569 Its significance did not become clear 1335 01:08:10,603 --> 01:08:13,123 until the story of Bigelow Aerospace 1336 01:08:13,158 --> 01:08:16,712 and its role in AATIP began to unfold. 1337 01:08:16,746 --> 01:08:21,476 The New York Timescame out with a couple of articles essentially downplaying any E.T. 1338 01:08:21,511 --> 01:08:23,167 component of these sightings, 1339 01:08:23,202 --> 01:08:27,137 but also playing down the fact that they may be Russian or Chinese 1340 01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:34,800 and also playing down the fact that these are advanced U.S. classified prototypes. 1341 01:08:34,834 --> 01:08:36,457 If they're going to play all of those things down, 1342 01:08:36,491 --> 01:08:41,393 then I would ask, what gets played up? Because there is nothing left. 1343 01:08:41,426 --> 01:08:44,189 NARRATOR: Confronted with the challenge of weaving Robert Bigelow's 1344 01:08:44,223 --> 01:08:45,707 informed beliefs 1345 01:08:45,742 --> 01:08:48,124 into the story Chris Mellon had revealed, 1346 01:08:48,157 --> 01:08:51,299 -Mellon said this, -There aren't many people 1347 01:08:51,334 --> 01:08:55,786 associated with the establishment who are so bold 1348 01:08:55,821 --> 01:09:00,032 and willing to make statements like that. 1349 01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:05,140 Many of the Navy pilots themselves who've engaged these crafts 1350 01:09:05,175 --> 01:09:09,317 go there because they can't conceive of any other explanation, frankly. 1351 01:09:09,352 --> 01:09:12,907 NARRATOR: When Lue Elizondo was asked about Bigelow statements, 1352 01:09:12,941 --> 01:09:16,048 his response corroborated Bigelow's position. 1353 01:09:16,082 --> 01:09:19,015 He has his own space stations in space. 1354 01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:20,259 People say "What do you mean?" 1355 01:09:20,294 --> 01:09:24,332 Yeah, he has his own, right now, in space. 1356 01:09:24,367 --> 01:09:27,370 I mean, I don't know who else has done that, and by the way, 1357 01:09:27,404 --> 01:09:31,822 he's done it for a long time, so give the guy some credit. 1358 01:09:31,857 --> 01:09:33,617 He knows what he's talking about. 1359 01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:39,865 They have stated flatly "They're not one of ours." 1360 01:09:39,898 --> 01:09:42,970 Then the question is, whose are they? 1361 01:09:43,005 --> 01:09:45,388 NARRATOR: All of the people involved in the current narrative 1362 01:09:45,422 --> 01:09:47,183 are deliberately stopping short 1363 01:09:47,217 --> 01:09:52,291 of identifying the phenomenon as originating from extraterrestrials. 1364 01:09:52,326 --> 01:09:56,709 We have all these tales going back centuries, millennia, 1365 01:09:56,744 --> 01:09:59,987 about visitations and strange beings. 1366 01:10:00,023 --> 01:10:04,476 Maybe it's a record of visits from alien civilizations. 1367 01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:08,825 You can't rule out the fact that, yeah, maybe we have been visited in the past. 1368 01:10:08,859 --> 01:10:10,240 You can't rule it out. 1369 01:10:10,275 --> 01:10:14,071 So you say one by one, they're not natural phenomena. 1370 01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:16,867 They're not weather balloons. 1371 01:10:16,902 --> 01:10:18,144 They're not U.S. technology. 1372 01:10:18,179 --> 01:10:20,008 They're not Russian. They're not Chinese. 1373 01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:22,563 They're not optical illusions. 1374 01:10:22,597 --> 01:10:26,118 They're not mental illness on the part of the people who report them. 1375 01:10:26,152 --> 01:10:28,844 Because these are our most highly trained experts 1376 01:10:28,879 --> 01:10:30,880 who are reporting these things, and they've been caught on, 1377 01:10:30,916 --> 01:10:35,748 as I said, Navy instrumentation. So what are you left with? 1378 01:10:35,782 --> 01:10:37,335 Well, no one is going there. 1379 01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:40,339 Our view is, let's follow the trail wherever it leads. 1380 01:10:40,374 --> 01:10:41,271 Let's get the data, 1381 01:10:41,306 --> 01:10:43,342 the best evidence possible. 1382 01:10:43,377 --> 01:10:47,035 There's probably more than one phenomenon at work here. 1383 01:10:47,070 --> 01:10:49,693 NARRATOR: They refused to say the "A" word. 1384 01:10:50,418 --> 01:10:53,110 Alien. Why? 1385 01:10:53,145 --> 01:10:56,769 You know, assuming that these things are all of alien origin... 1386 01:10:58,875 --> 01:11:01,912 for a variety reasons, in part because people shut down 1387 01:11:01,947 --> 01:11:07,159 and it impedes our progress and some of the allies 1388 01:11:07,193 --> 01:11:09,644 and people that we need to bring to bear, 1389 01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:12,544 who are sort of now getting on board, 1390 01:11:12,577 --> 01:11:16,996 wouldn't do so if we started with the premise that these are aliens. 1391 01:11:17,031 --> 01:11:19,689 I think the word alien is a little... 1392 01:11:19,723 --> 01:11:22,312 People are afraid of the word alien. 1393 01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:25,728 You know, E.T, extraterrestrial, non-humans. 1394 01:11:25,764 --> 01:11:28,732 I've always concerned about 1395 01:11:28,767 --> 01:11:33,943 getting ahead of our headlights, frankly, 1396 01:11:33,978 --> 01:11:36,326 and leaping to conclusions. 1397 01:11:36,361 --> 01:11:39,225 For me, it's more of the thrill of the hunt. 1398 01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:42,332 It's trying to figure out the unknowns 1399 01:11:42,367 --> 01:11:46,818 because once they are known, they are no longer a mystery. 1400 01:11:46,853 --> 01:11:48,994 What it is, no one's admitted yet. 1401 01:11:49,028 --> 01:11:51,272 And you've got plenty of video evidence 1402 01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:56,380 of Lue and Chris not admitting it because they can't say it. 1403 01:11:56,415 --> 01:11:58,969 But they've said it in as many ways as you can. 1404 01:11:59,004 --> 01:12:02,214 Just anybody bright enough to listen, 1405 01:12:02,248 --> 01:12:05,112 will, as you say, understand the accidental truth. 1406 01:12:13,259 --> 01:12:19,507 NARRATOR: During the interview in 2018, Lue Elizondo gave us an accidental truth. 1407 01:12:19,541 --> 01:12:22,752 JAMES: So, you've spoken about some of the technologies 1408 01:12:22,786 --> 01:12:25,341 that are being studied as a spin off the research 1409 01:12:25,375 --> 01:12:26,996 you did at AATIP. 1410 01:12:27,032 --> 01:12:32,139 Things like bending space-time, and Einstein type possibilities that may unfold. 1411 01:12:32,175 --> 01:12:35,005 Is there an interdimensional element to any of this 1412 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,835 that you guys maybe explored? 1413 01:12:38,871 --> 01:12:40,666 Other dimensions may absolutely exist. 1414 01:12:40,701 --> 01:12:43,013 You look at String Theory, look at M Theory, 1415 01:12:43,048 --> 01:12:45,602 dimensions are all around us. 1416 01:12:45,637 --> 01:12:50,814 So I think you have to cast a wide net when you're looking at this. 1417 01:12:50,849 --> 01:12:53,264 And that's why I've said before, whether they're from outer space, 1418 01:12:53,299 --> 01:12:54,956 inner space or the space in between, 1419 01:12:54,991 --> 01:12:58,235 we just don't know, and we need to collect more data. 1420 01:12:58,270 --> 01:13:00,928 Is it possible? Absolutely, it's possible. 1421 01:13:00,962 --> 01:13:03,724 Is it possible that they're from the Pleiades? Sure. 1422 01:13:03,758 --> 01:13:05,035 Is it possible that they're from... 1423 01:13:05,070 --> 01:13:07,037 They've been here all along and they're from here, 1424 01:13:07,072 --> 01:13:10,455 they're just resonating at a different vibration? 1425 01:13:10,489 --> 01:13:12,284 Sure. 1426 01:13:12,318 --> 01:13:15,563 JAMES: It seems like the only question that is answered 1427 01:13:15,598 --> 01:13:17,323 in the ones you just posed, 1428 01:13:17,358 --> 01:13:21,293 is that whether or not, there is an actual "They." 1429 01:13:21,844 --> 01:13:23,916 That's a great question. 1430 01:13:23,951 --> 01:13:25,434 I don't know if I can answer that. 1431 01:13:27,955 --> 01:13:31,337 NARRATOR: A few seem willing to officially pronounce the phenomenon 1432 01:13:31,371 --> 01:13:34,271 as originating from extraterrestrials. 1433 01:13:34,306 --> 01:13:36,377 There is a willingness to concede 1434 01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:39,449 that there might be extraterrestrial involvement. 1435 01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:41,486 You know, what's here is probably just an A.I. 1436 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,041 I mean, why spend all your time on one little planet 1437 01:13:46,076 --> 01:13:48,700 out in a dust speck at the edge of the galaxy? 1438 01:13:48,734 --> 01:13:50,529 You send your robots. 1439 01:13:50,564 --> 01:13:54,153 The question is, what's our definition of life? 1440 01:13:54,188 --> 01:13:57,778 I think life may exist, may exist, 1441 01:13:57,812 --> 01:14:02,127 and I'll caveat that, in all sorts of forms. 1442 01:14:02,161 --> 01:14:03,922 I don't think it's necessarily going to be 1443 01:14:03,956 --> 01:14:08,960 something that we might recognize or even initially even classify as life. 1444 01:14:08,996 --> 01:14:11,273 Because we don't have a full understanding of it. 1445 01:14:11,308 --> 01:14:13,241 NARRATOR: There is a growing consensus 1446 01:14:13,276 --> 01:14:15,796 that the extraterrestrial hypothesis 1447 01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:17,936 doesn't answer all of the questions. 1448 01:14:17,969 --> 01:14:22,388 There are multiple phenomena at work, that cannot be explained completely 1449 01:14:22,423 --> 01:14:24,632 without looking at other possibilities. 1450 01:14:24,666 --> 01:14:27,704 Maybe there's a whole range of different phenomena at play here. 1451 01:14:27,739 --> 01:14:33,779 In fact, I think, given the differences in what's been reported by people, 1452 01:14:33,814 --> 01:14:38,957 that's quite likely that there are many different parallel strands to this. 1453 01:14:38,991 --> 01:14:42,581 But whatever is involved, and as I say, I don't know, 1454 01:14:42,616 --> 01:14:48,794 I think it does raise important defense, national security and air safety issues. 1455 01:14:48,829 --> 01:14:53,764 The E.T. hypothesis, for instance, is a logical starting point. 1456 01:14:53,799 --> 01:14:55,594 If not from here, from where? 1457 01:14:55,629 --> 01:14:59,564 Until you start talking about, well, what do you mean, where? 1458 01:14:59,598 --> 01:15:05,362 We think that an object is solid and can only be one place at the same time. 1459 01:15:05,397 --> 01:15:09,850 But in quantum mechanics, electrons can be two places at the same time. 1460 01:15:09,884 --> 01:15:11,507 In fact, they can be many places, 1461 01:15:11,541 --> 01:15:14,579 and this is called the multiverse idea. 1462 01:15:14,612 --> 01:15:19,031 The idea that we exist with other universes simultaneously. 1463 01:15:19,584 --> 01:15:20,654 Well, wait a minute. 1464 01:15:20,688 --> 01:15:24,139 We're talking about multi-dimensional realities. 1465 01:15:24,174 --> 01:15:26,073 But doesn't really matter how far you go 1466 01:15:26,107 --> 01:15:28,420 in a three-dimensional space and distance, 1467 01:15:28,454 --> 01:15:32,112 that there are shortcuts, and those shortcuts exist 1468 01:15:33,321 --> 01:15:35,254 as part of the natural universe. 1469 01:15:35,289 --> 01:15:37,532 So that is a real world example where we know 1470 01:15:38,844 --> 01:15:40,674 other dimensions may absolutely exist. 1471 01:15:40,708 --> 01:15:46,921 Whether it's extraterrestrial or interdimensional, to me, is irrelevant 1472 01:15:46,956 --> 01:15:49,579 because whatever it is, clearly has 1473 01:15:49,614 --> 01:15:53,202 the ability to manipulate dimensionality. 1474 01:15:53,237 --> 01:15:58,519 These things can jump in and out, appear, disappear. 1475 01:15:58,554 --> 01:16:02,281 And so, for all intents and purposes, it's both. 1476 01:16:02,316 --> 01:16:07,701 NARRATOR: In August of 2022, Dr. Hal Puthoff released a paper in which he explored 1477 01:16:07,735 --> 01:16:10,462 other options for what may be at work. 1478 01:16:10,496 --> 01:16:14,603 He presented concepts such as ultra-terrestrial beings. 1479 01:16:14,639 --> 01:16:18,850 The concept that there could be another intelligent race living with us 1480 01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:21,162 inside the Earth or under water. 1481 01:16:21,197 --> 01:16:24,027 A civilization with advanced technology, 1482 01:16:24,062 --> 01:16:26,892 that has been here, long before us. 1483 01:16:26,927 --> 01:16:28,722 Time travelers. 1484 01:16:28,755 --> 01:16:32,691 While mainstream science debates the feasibility of time travel, 1485 01:16:32,726 --> 01:16:35,175 it still remains a possibility. 1486 01:16:35,210 --> 01:16:38,870 Some people say that the aliens don't come from Mars, 1487 01:16:38,904 --> 01:16:40,906 they don't come from a distant star. 1488 01:16:40,941 --> 01:16:43,391 They come from a different time. 1489 01:16:43,425 --> 01:16:45,808 Well, I'm open to all sorts of ideas, 1490 01:16:45,842 --> 01:16:47,775 as long as they are testable. 1491 01:16:47,809 --> 01:16:53,332 Our notion of time and space is flawed, seriously. 1492 01:16:53,367 --> 01:16:56,232 And you're entering issues where 1493 01:16:56,266 --> 01:16:58,889 there is no time and there is no space. 1494 01:16:58,924 --> 01:17:01,306 You've got man-made craft. 1495 01:17:01,340 --> 01:17:04,343 You've got possible extraterrestrial. 1496 01:17:04,378 --> 01:17:06,035 You've got interdimensional. 1497 01:17:06,068 --> 01:17:07,553 You've got... 1498 01:17:07,588 --> 01:17:10,384 Hmm. A pre-existing high tech civilization 1499 01:17:10,418 --> 01:17:12,351 that could have been on this planet for thousands of years. 1500 01:17:12,386 --> 01:17:14,008 And when you wrap this all together, 1501 01:17:14,043 --> 01:17:17,425 you can see how confusing it is because a lot of these things merge. 1502 01:17:19,393 --> 01:17:22,189 NARRATOR: Some of the phenomena seemed to point 1503 01:17:22,223 --> 01:17:25,606 to a direct interaction, with consciousness. 1504 01:17:25,641 --> 01:17:30,922 Well, the consciousness is interacting in all aspects of it. 1505 01:17:30,956 --> 01:17:32,682 And to take it a step farther, 1506 01:17:32,717 --> 01:17:36,134 going to Max Planck, suggests that maybe 1507 01:17:36,168 --> 01:17:40,897 the physical evolved from consciousness, 1508 01:17:40,932 --> 01:17:42,796 as opposed to the other way around. 1509 01:17:49,975 --> 01:17:52,598 NARRATOR: As part of developing new understandings, 1510 01:17:52,633 --> 01:17:56,499 it's hard to ignore the so-called experience or phenomenon. 1511 01:17:56,532 --> 01:17:59,191 A significant percentage of the population 1512 01:17:59,226 --> 01:18:02,574 report having encounters with non-human beings. 1513 01:18:02,608 --> 01:18:06,577 These encounters range from enlightening to terrifying, 1514 01:18:06,612 --> 01:18:12,204 Many, many, many people have had some very strange experiences. 1515 01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:17,106 Either seeing UFOs, and not just at night while they were dreaming. 1516 01:18:17,139 --> 01:18:19,728 These are not nightmares. 1517 01:18:19,764 --> 01:18:24,423 These are often described as more real than everyday reality. 1518 01:18:24,458 --> 01:18:27,460 The people who describe it, these people are solid. 1519 01:18:27,495 --> 01:18:29,463 They come from all walks of life. 1520 01:18:29,496 --> 01:18:32,984 NARRATOR: Ralph Blumenthal wrote a book about the late Harvard psychologist John Mack, 1521 01:18:33,018 --> 01:18:34,882 calledThe Believer. 1522 01:18:34,916 --> 01:18:37,402 Mack was one of the first members of academia 1523 01:18:37,436 --> 01:18:40,818 to acknowledge the validity of the experience or phenomenon. 1524 01:18:40,853 --> 01:18:44,409 John Mack investigated these stories of people who said that this and this 1525 01:18:44,443 --> 01:18:48,275 happened to them, and at least Mack, as a psychiatrist, 1526 01:18:48,309 --> 01:18:52,279 was able to evaluate their stories to the... 1527 01:18:52,313 --> 01:18:56,870 Couldn't prove that this happened or didn't happen, but at least could say that 1528 01:18:56,904 --> 01:19:00,943 these people were solid people and were not mentally ill. 1529 01:19:02,565 --> 01:19:06,189 We interface with whatever this is. 1530 01:19:06,224 --> 01:19:08,502 Contactees, abductees. 1531 01:19:08,536 --> 01:19:12,264 I think we can create some of the phenomenon itself. 1532 01:19:12,299 --> 01:19:16,475 So I do believe that there are certain individuals on this planet 1533 01:19:16,510 --> 01:19:20,445 who are more in tune, are more intuitive, 1534 01:19:20,478 --> 01:19:23,759 are more in touch with the unseen world 1535 01:19:23,793 --> 01:19:25,312 than the seen world. 1536 01:19:25,346 --> 01:19:28,384 Some of us are able to pierce the veil 1537 01:19:28,418 --> 01:19:31,282 and connect with whatever is going on out there. 1538 01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:36,323 NARRATOR: Stunning new research by Dr Gary Nolan, 1539 01:19:36,357 --> 01:19:38,981 has revealed a trait in the human brain 1540 01:19:39,014 --> 01:19:42,018 that may make some people more prone to abilities, 1541 01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:45,608 such as heightened intuition, psychic abilities, 1542 01:19:45,642 --> 01:19:50,199 and possibly an ability to communicate in undeveloped manners, 1543 01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:51,510 such as telepathy. 1544 01:19:51,545 --> 01:19:55,652 We had MRIs of claimed remote viewers, 1545 01:19:56,273 --> 01:19:58,690 high-end remote viewers, 1546 01:19:58,724 --> 01:20:03,452 and this area of their brain lit up like a Christmas tree. 1547 01:20:03,487 --> 01:20:07,492 NARRATOR: The condition has been observed in so-called "Experiencers." 1548 01:20:07,526 --> 01:20:10,909 Nolan has detected increased activity and development 1549 01:20:10,943 --> 01:20:13,878 in a region of the brain called the basal ganglia. 1550 01:20:13,912 --> 01:20:16,225 NOLAN: The thing that got me really intrigued 1551 01:20:16,259 --> 01:20:20,987 was that we did have MRIs from experiencers, 1552 01:20:21,023 --> 01:20:24,958 but these were high functioning individuals that we happened to notice 1553 01:20:24,992 --> 01:20:30,032 that an area of their brain, had a density in it 1554 01:20:30,066 --> 01:20:33,068 that we first thought was damaged because we were studying damage at the moment. 1555 01:20:33,103 --> 01:20:37,108 But then we realized, this is not damaged. This is living tissue. 1556 01:20:37,142 --> 01:20:39,835 And that became sort of a side discovery. 1557 01:20:39,869 --> 01:20:43,286 You're left then with, frankly, what was 1558 01:20:43,321 --> 01:20:46,048 an even less uniform group of individuals 1559 01:20:46,082 --> 01:20:51,950 with such varied interactions. Things that we're talking to them, 1560 01:20:51,985 --> 01:20:55,609 things that they had gotten close to and had been damaged and harmed. 1561 01:20:55,643 --> 01:20:58,543 And there were a couple of people in that group who were harmed. 1562 01:20:58,577 --> 01:21:00,959 But of the remaining individuals, 1563 01:21:00,994 --> 01:21:04,273 I would say that the majority of them were not harmed. 1564 01:21:04,307 --> 01:21:09,623 This area of the brain, that we came to the conclusion at the time 1565 01:21:09,657 --> 01:21:11,452 was probably involved in intuition, 1566 01:21:11,487 --> 01:21:13,799 when we actually looked into it, 1567 01:21:13,834 --> 01:21:15,732 and then looked into the literature, 1568 01:21:15,767 --> 01:21:17,355 believe it or not, people were finding that 1569 01:21:17,389 --> 01:21:19,046 it had something to do with intuition. 1570 01:21:20,013 --> 01:21:22,153 And that's the basal ganglia. 1571 01:21:22,187 --> 01:21:24,776 This area, the caudate putamen, 1572 01:21:24,809 --> 01:21:28,021 which is, you know, by many neurophysiologist 1573 01:21:28,055 --> 01:21:29,505 called the brain within the brain. 1574 01:21:29,539 --> 01:21:31,645 NARRATOR: What Dr. Nolan has discovered 1575 01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:34,682 may represent a leap in human evolution 1576 01:21:34,717 --> 01:21:38,065 or even a new variation of Homo sapien. 1577 01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:43,657 You have to ask the question "What kind of information 1578 01:21:43,691 --> 01:21:49,041 "is being perceived and how is it being translated into, 1579 01:21:49,076 --> 01:21:52,493 "let's say, traditional neuro-physiologic pathways?" 1580 01:21:53,356 --> 01:21:56,394 We don't understand... 1581 01:21:56,428 --> 01:21:59,293 space time the way we'd like to pretend we do. 1582 01:21:59,327 --> 01:22:05,851 And so, who is to say that there is not some kind of information transfer 1583 01:22:05,886 --> 01:22:08,751 that we just don't necessarily yet appreciate, 1584 01:22:08,785 --> 01:22:11,581 but evolution has found a way to latch onto. 1585 01:22:18,588 --> 01:22:21,281 NARRATOR: The people that we've met since 2017 1586 01:22:21,315 --> 01:22:23,110 seemed to have some genuine interest 1587 01:22:23,145 --> 01:22:27,080 in helping to make humanity more aware of these realities. 1588 01:22:27,114 --> 01:22:31,014 Chris Mellon continues to work quietly behind the scenes 1589 01:22:31,049 --> 01:22:34,327 to bring about an effective means of disclosure. 1590 01:22:34,362 --> 01:22:36,916 Very much changing within the government, 1591 01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:40,058 on the Hill and the executive branch, 1592 01:22:40,093 --> 01:22:42,716 as well as you can see with the media lately. 1593 01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:44,925 It's becoming respectable and legitimate, 1594 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,549 and that's so crucial to engaging more minds and more energy, 1595 01:22:48,584 --> 01:22:50,689 and more resources to getting to the bottom of this. 1596 01:22:50,724 --> 01:22:52,484 NARRATOR: Lue Elizondo seems to have put 1597 01:22:52,519 --> 01:22:54,659 everything on the line since going public. 1598 01:22:54,693 --> 01:22:58,076 So if there's an issue where the government is doing something we don't want to 1599 01:22:58,111 --> 01:23:00,734 then it's up to us as a people to change that. 1600 01:23:00,768 --> 01:23:03,633 But it doesn't have to be an adversarial relationship. 1601 01:23:03,668 --> 01:23:07,499 I think where we go wrong is that people often times look at the government, they say, 1602 01:23:07,534 --> 01:23:09,501 "Oh, the government's bad, the government's bad." 1603 01:23:09,536 --> 01:23:13,264 NARRATOR: His role in AATIP has been challenged by the Defense Intelligence Agency. 1604 01:23:13,298 --> 01:23:16,059 Lue fought back by hiring one of the most effective 1605 01:23:16,094 --> 01:23:19,822 and well known civil rights attorneys in the field, Danny Sheehan. 1606 01:23:19,856 --> 01:23:25,172 I was contacted by Lue Elizondo and asked to represent him 1607 01:23:25,207 --> 01:23:27,071 because he was upset 1608 01:23:27,105 --> 01:23:29,245 about the fact that the Pentagon 1609 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,248 even after the publication of this 1610 01:23:32,282 --> 01:23:35,424 on December 16th and 17th of 2017, 1611 01:23:35,458 --> 01:23:40,567 there were officials inside the Pentagon issuing completely false statements, 1612 01:23:40,601 --> 01:23:43,052 still, saying, "Yeah, there's no such thing 1613 01:23:43,087 --> 01:23:46,504 "as the Advanced Aerospace Identification Program." 1614 01:23:46,538 --> 01:23:49,334 NARRATOR: Together, they approached the Inspector General 1615 01:23:49,369 --> 01:23:51,129 of the Defense Intelligence Agency 1616 01:23:51,164 --> 01:23:55,375 to reverse the Pentagon's failure to acknowledge Elizondo's position. 1617 01:23:55,409 --> 01:24:00,414 When Elizondo started, talking about this phenomenon publicly, 1618 01:24:00,449 --> 01:24:04,591 you can see the Pentagon had tremendous pushback against him. 1619 01:24:05,178 --> 01:24:06,179 They lied. 1620 01:24:06,213 --> 01:24:08,422 They said "No, he didn't run such a program." 1621 01:24:08,457 --> 01:24:09,630 That was a lie. 1622 01:24:09,665 --> 01:24:11,701 They said AATIP had nothing to do with UFOs. 1623 01:24:11,736 --> 01:24:13,945 -That was a lie. -We were trying at the same time, 1624 01:24:13,978 --> 01:24:17,017 trying to determine what Lue can say 1625 01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:20,157 in light of his security clearances, you know, publicly. 1626 01:24:20,193 --> 01:24:24,887 Not long ago, Elizondo supposedly said to his attorney 1627 01:24:24,921 --> 01:24:27,027 that he had seen a flying saucer in a hanger. 1628 01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:32,101 That gets out and the stuff hits the fan. 1629 01:24:32,136 --> 01:24:34,862 And, you know, Lue had to walk that back too. 1630 01:24:34,897 --> 01:24:37,037 What did he do? He said, "Well, you know, 1631 01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:39,557 "I went to a hangar that was designed 1632 01:24:39,591 --> 01:24:42,870 "to accommodate exotic materials, but I didn't see anything there. 1633 01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:46,874 "I never saw any intact craft." He was like, very lawyerly 1634 01:24:46,909 --> 01:24:49,601 in how he said what he did because he had to. 1635 01:24:49,636 --> 01:24:53,880 I guess I'm just genetically pre-disposed to not trusting government 1636 01:24:53,916 --> 01:24:56,884 and seeing it now, too, it's just a joke. 1637 01:24:56,919 --> 01:24:57,851 It really is. 1638 01:24:59,749 --> 01:25:02,821 NARRATOR: MUFON, The Mutual UFO Network 1639 01:25:02,856 --> 01:25:07,032 is the largest and oldest UFO organization in the world. 1640 01:25:07,067 --> 01:25:10,691 After over 50 years, MUFON is stronger than ever. 1641 01:25:11,796 --> 01:25:14,557 I'm Ron James. It's March 11th 2022. 1642 01:25:14,592 --> 01:25:16,111 I'm here in front of the White House. 1643 01:25:16,145 --> 01:25:19,459 It's been a historic week for the UFO community and for MUFON, 1644 01:25:19,493 --> 01:25:20,839 the Mutual UFO Network. 1645 01:25:20,874 --> 01:25:23,463 We have actually been taking meetings all week long 1646 01:25:23,496 --> 01:25:27,674 with key members and staff of the House and Senate intelligence committees 1647 01:25:27,708 --> 01:25:29,572 regarding the UAP phenomenon. 1648 01:25:29,607 --> 01:25:32,127 We've been here for three days now, four days, 1649 01:25:32,161 --> 01:25:35,992 and have met with about 10 different officials, 1650 01:25:36,027 --> 01:25:41,619 congressmen, representatives staff and senators, 1651 01:25:41,653 --> 01:25:44,794 and we've really had a tremendous welcome. 1652 01:25:44,829 --> 01:25:47,934 NARRATOR: Thousands of people over 100 years or more, 1653 01:25:47,969 --> 01:25:51,835 have challenged the official deception around the UFO topic. 1654 01:25:51,870 --> 01:25:54,321 They have been ridiculed and debunked. 1655 01:25:54,356 --> 01:25:57,013 Today, they are beginning to be vindicated, 1656 01:25:57,048 --> 01:25:59,532 but still have not accomplished their goal. 1657 01:25:59,568 --> 01:26:02,433 A total end to the UFO cover-up. 1658 01:26:02,467 --> 01:26:05,850 There is no way to inform the American people writ large, 1659 01:26:05,884 --> 01:26:09,198 all 500 million of us, and ensure that information 1660 01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:11,648 is not going to get into the hands of a foreign adversary. 1661 01:26:11,683 --> 01:26:14,169 Maybe it's that there are some elements 1662 01:26:14,202 --> 01:26:17,275 of the technology that has to be kept under wraps 1663 01:26:17,309 --> 01:26:21,624 or kept to a limited number of people because 1664 01:26:21,659 --> 01:26:23,868 if you cross the wires, bad things happen. 1665 01:26:23,902 --> 01:26:28,079 This is a version of disclosure. 1666 01:26:28,112 --> 01:26:29,907 But is it going to be the real truth? 1667 01:26:29,943 --> 01:26:32,014 And, I mean, I don't care 1668 01:26:32,048 --> 01:26:34,016 about anything except what the actual truth is. 1669 01:26:34,050 --> 01:26:35,776 So, we'll see if they can get there. 1670 01:26:35,811 --> 01:26:38,538 They could say, for example, down the road, 1671 01:26:38,572 --> 01:26:43,128 "Well, actually, yeah. We have had a few reports down the road, 1672 01:26:43,163 --> 01:26:45,683 "over the years, but we kept it quiet because, 1673 01:26:45,717 --> 01:26:48,272 "honestly, we needed to avoid public panic." 1674 01:26:48,306 --> 01:26:49,618 They'll say that. 1675 01:26:49,652 --> 01:26:54,347 At a societal level, I believe that we are completely ready 1676 01:26:54,380 --> 01:26:57,522 to incorporate this new reality, 1677 01:26:57,557 --> 01:27:02,077 and if the President were to go on 1678 01:27:02,112 --> 01:27:05,565 the evening news today and say, "My fellow Americans, 1679 01:27:05,599 --> 01:27:07,118 "people of the world, we're not alone," 1680 01:27:07,152 --> 01:27:11,364 I think the reaction would be sorta two-fold. 1681 01:27:11,398 --> 01:27:14,159 Obviously, there would be a huge interest in it, 1682 01:27:14,193 --> 01:27:17,577 but actually there wouldn't be panic in the streets. 1683 01:27:17,611 --> 01:27:21,166 So to be part of that journey, 1684 01:27:21,201 --> 01:27:25,895 to uncover and to show links to this advanced civilization, 1685 01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:29,830 that would be a great honor, because as a scientist, 1686 01:27:29,865 --> 01:27:32,108 you go where the data takes you. 1687 01:27:32,143 --> 01:27:35,905 And sometimes the data takes you to places that are uncomfortable. 1688 01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:38,391 But, hey, that's the way the cookie crumbles. 1689 01:27:38,425 --> 01:27:40,600 Yeah, I just... You know, I'm going to get hit on it. 1690 01:27:40,634 --> 01:27:43,568 They told me. They said, "Man, Burchett you need to cool this stuff out 1691 01:27:43,603 --> 01:27:49,402 "because it's gonna hurt us at the polls." But we'll see. 1692 01:27:51,852 --> 01:27:54,959 NARRATOR: We've shown that even today there is a narrative at work 1693 01:27:54,993 --> 01:28:00,102 that has been created to manipulate public perception about the UFO topic. 1694 01:28:00,136 --> 01:28:02,725 We are not alone in the universe. 1695 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,419 There are those who have struggled to keep this truth a secret. 1696 01:28:06,452 --> 01:28:10,077 But the proof of the deception serves its own purpose 1697 01:28:10,112 --> 01:28:12,804 and tells us much more than ever before. 1698 01:28:12,839 --> 01:28:15,219 I have good news and I have bad news. 1699 01:28:15,255 --> 01:28:19,224 And the good news is the government's been telling you the truth. 1700 01:28:19,259 --> 01:28:22,883 The bad news is the government's been telling you the truth. 1701 01:28:22,918 --> 01:28:24,022 I mean, just look at Roswell. 1702 01:28:24,057 --> 01:28:25,886 There are no 509th bomb group members left. 1703 01:28:25,921 --> 01:28:27,335 They're all dead. 1704 01:28:27,371 --> 01:28:30,546 So according to the government, it's cover up complete. 1705 01:28:30,581 --> 01:28:32,928 All right, then what did I see out there in that field? 1706 01:28:33,446 --> 01:28:34,826 Oh, that... 1707 01:28:37,001 --> 01:28:39,037 Why, that was a weather balloon.