1 00:00:09,243 --> 00:00:12,243 More of that in a moment, but here's Jill with something else. 2 00:00:12,323 --> 00:00:14,003 Struggling away, hello. 3 00:00:14,603 --> 00:00:15,563 Uh… 4 00:00:16,483 --> 00:00:20,683 [Jill Dando] Television in some way had always fascinated me from the year dot. 5 00:00:20,763 --> 00:00:24,083 I was about eight years old and I'd have my four library tickets 6 00:00:24,163 --> 00:00:27,043 and go to the library and get books about television. 7 00:00:27,123 --> 00:00:28,683 [female reporter] Good morning. 8 00:00:28,763 --> 00:00:31,763 You're watching the BBC's Breakfast News at 6:30. 9 00:00:31,843 --> 00:00:35,163 It took me I suppose, um, until I was about 25 to get inside. 10 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:36,123 [woman 1] Jill Dando. 11 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:39,563 [man 1] Jill was the most famous TV presenter on British television. 12 00:00:40,243 --> 00:00:42,403 [woman 2] The golden girl of British television, 13 00:00:43,043 --> 00:00:46,163 murdered on her doorstep in broad daylight. 14 00:00:47,283 --> 00:00:49,123 That just does not happen. 15 00:00:49,843 --> 00:00:52,683 [woman 3] I think anyone who has got a little bit of fame 16 00:00:52,763 --> 00:00:55,043 knows that there are two sides to it. 17 00:00:55,123 --> 00:00:57,163 You get a lot of unwanted attention. 18 00:00:57,963 --> 00:01:00,243 Strange people. Obsessive. 19 00:01:01,003 --> 00:01:03,443 You kind of look over your shoulder a bit. 20 00:01:03,523 --> 00:01:05,643 People all over are joining again 21 00:01:05,723 --> 00:01:08,803 to solve some of Britain's most difficult and serious crimes. 22 00:01:08,883 --> 00:01:11,443 [woman 2] Crimewatch had a fantastic reputation 23 00:01:11,523 --> 00:01:13,883 for putting information out there 24 00:01:13,963 --> 00:01:17,803 and getting people to ring in with critical pieces of evidence. 25 00:01:17,883 --> 00:01:21,883 If you harbor any suspicions, do call. So many clues and so much anguish. 26 00:01:21,963 --> 00:01:25,163 Do you ever get worried about the things you see on Crimewatch? 27 00:01:25,243 --> 00:01:28,803 Oh. Yes, you do. But the crimes that we show are so rare. 28 00:01:28,883 --> 00:01:31,323 It's not something that you walk into the street 29 00:01:31,403 --> 00:01:33,963 and think, "The same thing's going to happen to me." 30 00:01:35,203 --> 00:01:37,043 [woman 3] There was reason to be scared. 31 00:01:37,123 --> 00:01:39,043 [man 2] It takes a certain sort of person, 32 00:01:39,123 --> 00:01:42,603 a brutal sadistic psychopath, to shoot a gun into a head. 33 00:01:43,163 --> 00:01:45,323 This was one of the largest murder investigations 34 00:01:45,403 --> 00:01:47,483 the Metropolitan Police ever had to face. 35 00:01:47,563 --> 00:01:50,043 [man 1] It's been 22 years and it's unsolved. 36 00:01:50,763 --> 00:01:53,443 Whoever did it is still out there. 37 00:01:54,803 --> 00:01:56,963 [theme music playing] 38 00:01:57,043 --> 00:02:00,643 One of Britain's most popular television presenters has been murdered 39 00:02:00,723 --> 00:02:02,723 in what could be a professional hit. 40 00:02:05,203 --> 00:02:09,683 The tributes here on the flowers echo the overriding reaction of shock… 41 00:02:10,443 --> 00:02:13,522 [man 1] Even the Queen has been moved to comment, saying she is shocked… 42 00:02:13,603 --> 00:02:16,483 [man 2] Police say there are many possible motives for the murder. 43 00:02:16,563 --> 00:02:18,683 [man 3] …responsible for solving so many crimes 44 00:02:18,763 --> 00:02:20,523 may have created enemies in the process. 45 00:02:20,603 --> 00:02:23,803 [woman 1] The Crimewatch presenter may have been assassinated in retaliation 46 00:02:23,883 --> 00:02:25,803 for the NATO bombing of the Belgrade. 47 00:02:25,883 --> 00:02:28,043 [man 4] Detectives confirm that Jill Dando 48 00:02:28,123 --> 00:02:30,323 had claimed of being followed by a stalker. 49 00:02:30,403 --> 00:02:32,363 [woman 2] A man who has gone on trial in London 50 00:02:32,443 --> 00:02:35,763 had an obsession with celebrities and was fascinated with firearms. 51 00:02:36,603 --> 00:02:39,883 [man 5] Detectives say they're not ruling out any line of inquiry. 52 00:02:39,963 --> 00:02:42,643 Some believe the killer may have got away with murder. 53 00:02:50,923 --> 00:02:53,083 [somber music playing] 54 00:02:53,923 --> 00:02:55,363 [phone ringing] 55 00:02:56,243 --> 00:02:57,803 [man] Ambulance service, hello? 56 00:02:57,883 --> 00:03:00,723 [woman] Hello, ambulance? I'm walking along Gowan Avenue. 57 00:03:00,803 --> 00:03:03,723 It looks like, um, there's somebody collapsed. 58 00:03:03,803 --> 00:03:06,723 And, confidentially, it looks like it's Jill Dando. 59 00:03:06,803 --> 00:03:09,763 And she's collapsed on her doorstep. There's a lot of blood. 60 00:03:09,843 --> 00:03:12,203 [man] Can you approach and check that she's breathing? 61 00:03:12,283 --> 00:03:14,683 -[woman] Doesn't look like she is. -[man] Right. 62 00:03:14,763 --> 00:03:17,763 [woman] Blood's coming from her nose, her arms are blue. 63 00:03:17,843 --> 00:03:20,843 [man] I need to find out if she needs… if she's breathing. 64 00:03:20,923 --> 00:03:23,243 Is the lady's chest going up and down? 65 00:03:24,723 --> 00:03:27,643 [woman] Oh, my God. No. I don't think she's alive. 66 00:03:27,723 --> 00:03:28,963 -[man] Okay. -I'm sorry. 67 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:31,283 [man] Don't worry. I'll get help for you. 68 00:03:31,363 --> 00:03:32,283 [woman] Please. 69 00:03:44,163 --> 00:03:47,083 [man] I was on call for the central London murder group. 70 00:03:47,163 --> 00:03:48,283 [phone ringing] 71 00:03:48,363 --> 00:03:52,163 We had been busy, we were under-resourced. 72 00:03:53,043 --> 00:03:55,843 And I was told by my detective sergeant 73 00:03:55,923 --> 00:03:58,923 that there had been a stabbing down in Fulham. 74 00:03:59,003 --> 00:04:00,683 [siren wailing] 75 00:04:00,763 --> 00:04:03,523 Fulham was a well-to-do, wealthy area. 76 00:04:04,403 --> 00:04:06,483 So it was unusual for that reason. 77 00:04:06,563 --> 00:04:07,883 Very unusual. 78 00:04:09,603 --> 00:04:11,843 I was driving down there 79 00:04:11,923 --> 00:04:14,643 and I got a phone call from my chief superintendent. 80 00:04:14,723 --> 00:04:16,243 [cell phone ringing] 81 00:04:16,323 --> 00:04:19,843 And he said to me, "That case, that's going to be Jill Dando." 82 00:04:22,963 --> 00:04:24,122 In most homicide cases, 83 00:04:24,203 --> 00:04:27,002 the detectives would not have known their victim at all, 84 00:04:27,083 --> 00:04:30,243 but in this case, almost everybody knew of Jill Dando. 85 00:04:31,123 --> 00:04:32,403 [ambulance siren wailing] 86 00:04:32,483 --> 00:04:37,003 There was an ambulance coming up the Fulham Road as we were going down, 87 00:04:37,083 --> 00:04:40,043 and I realized that was her being taken away from the scene. 88 00:04:48,923 --> 00:04:50,763 [woman] It was a lovely spring day… 89 00:04:53,963 --> 00:04:58,163 and I was reading the bulletins, the news summaries. 90 00:04:58,243 --> 00:05:00,003 The next scheduled bulletin is at 2:40. 91 00:05:00,083 --> 00:05:02,963 I had put on a rather nice blue suit. 92 00:05:05,163 --> 00:05:07,483 Well, one actually that came from the designers 93 00:05:07,563 --> 00:05:09,723 that Jill and I used to go to together. 94 00:05:09,803 --> 00:05:10,683 [indistinct chatter] 95 00:05:10,763 --> 00:05:15,923 And everything was fine in the newsroom, which is a buzzy, noisy, vibrant place. 96 00:05:16,003 --> 00:05:18,363 [man] …page 45. Tell me what promos you're running? 97 00:05:18,443 --> 00:05:22,723 And then the news came in that a woman had been killed. 98 00:05:25,243 --> 00:05:29,083 And these rumors started going around the newsroom that it was Jill. 99 00:05:29,763 --> 00:05:31,243 And it went terribly quiet. 100 00:05:33,803 --> 00:05:36,083 -[siren wailing] -[gripping music playing] 101 00:05:38,163 --> 00:05:39,843 [indistinct police radio chatter] 102 00:05:42,083 --> 00:05:45,763 [Hamish Campbell] When I arrived, I was briefed by the uniformed officers. 103 00:05:46,563 --> 00:05:50,963 And they told me that no one had seen what had actually happened to Jill. 104 00:05:51,043 --> 00:05:53,803 But they had already identified two witnesses 105 00:05:53,883 --> 00:05:55,763 who had seen a man leaving the scene. 106 00:05:58,683 --> 00:06:03,043 And they described this white man, dark hair, thick-set, 107 00:06:03,123 --> 00:06:08,563 wearing a coat, a dark coat, wasn't masked, wasn't wearing gloves. 108 00:06:10,363 --> 00:06:14,163 So the real focus right there was how the person 109 00:06:14,243 --> 00:06:17,203 who had been seen running away was to be caught. 110 00:06:21,803 --> 00:06:26,163 Uniformed officers were told to spread out and search the area. 111 00:06:30,763 --> 00:06:33,603 We were waiting for information from the hospital 112 00:06:33,683 --> 00:06:36,363 because there was no confirmation that Jill had died. 113 00:06:37,883 --> 00:06:41,523 That changed very quickly when I stood on the pavement 114 00:06:41,603 --> 00:06:43,563 and just looked from the gate, 115 00:06:44,283 --> 00:06:46,483 up to the front door of Jill's house. 116 00:06:48,523 --> 00:06:51,883 And I could see the bullet and casing on the doorstep. 117 00:06:53,243 --> 00:06:55,523 Jill Dando had been shot in the head. 118 00:06:59,603 --> 00:07:01,963 It was immediately sort of unfathomable. 119 00:07:05,723 --> 00:07:10,563 The concept of any woman being shot in the head in London, 120 00:07:10,643 --> 00:07:14,083 yet alone a celebrity, was rare in the extreme. 121 00:07:14,163 --> 00:07:15,723 [indistinct chatter] 122 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,883 The media are already up at the top cordon. 123 00:07:18,963 --> 00:07:22,803 I knew then that the media interest was going to be extraordinary. 124 00:07:22,883 --> 00:07:24,683 [ambulance siren wailing] 125 00:07:24,763 --> 00:07:28,843 [male doctor] Jill Dando arrived here by ambulance at 12:30 p.m. 126 00:07:28,923 --> 00:07:33,283 Despite all efforts by ambulance paramedics and hospital medical staff, 127 00:07:33,363 --> 00:07:36,883 she was certified dead at 1:03 p.m. 128 00:07:37,483 --> 00:07:42,043 The newsroom was cold with… with shock. 129 00:07:42,643 --> 00:07:43,763 Real shock. 130 00:07:47,723 --> 00:07:51,203 We're people who are used to reporting 131 00:07:51,283 --> 00:07:54,523 on all sorts of deaths, disasters, wars. 132 00:07:55,523 --> 00:07:57,403 But to have one of your own… 133 00:07:57,483 --> 00:07:59,403 [laughing] I'm sorry. It's just I was… 134 00:07:59,483 --> 00:08:01,563 [Jennie] One of your very, very own, 135 00:08:02,483 --> 00:08:08,483 killed in that manner on her own doorstep was just too awful to believe. 136 00:08:08,563 --> 00:08:10,883 [somber music playing] 137 00:08:12,723 --> 00:08:14,323 And I… I had to read it. 138 00:08:17,003 --> 00:08:18,563 [man] Jill was 37. 139 00:08:18,643 --> 00:08:22,283 [Jennie] I remember a boss saying to me, "Are you going to be okay doing this?" 140 00:08:22,363 --> 00:08:24,163 And I said, yeah, I'll be okay. 141 00:08:25,003 --> 00:08:26,443 [man] Jill was 37. 142 00:08:27,203 --> 00:08:29,283 Pete, I'm telling you she was 37. 143 00:08:29,363 --> 00:08:30,323 All right. 144 00:08:30,403 --> 00:08:32,803 [man] I told her, she was 37. 145 00:08:32,883 --> 00:08:35,803 She was exactly two years younger than me. She was 37. 146 00:08:37,923 --> 00:08:39,123 What shall I say? 147 00:08:39,202 --> 00:08:42,043 [man] I'm telling you, she was definitely 37. Definitely. 148 00:08:46,483 --> 00:08:47,483 Here we go. 149 00:08:49,243 --> 00:08:51,763 Within the past few minutes, police have confirmed 150 00:08:51,843 --> 00:08:55,723 that the BBC television presenter Jill Dando has been stabbed to death 151 00:08:55,803 --> 00:08:57,563 outside her west London home. 152 00:08:57,643 --> 00:09:00,083 She died in the ambulance on her way to hospital. 153 00:09:00,163 --> 00:09:02,323 There are no more details at the moment. 154 00:09:03,363 --> 00:09:06,363 The next scheduled bulletin is at 2:40. 155 00:09:11,283 --> 00:09:13,283 [intriguing music playing] 156 00:09:19,043 --> 00:09:22,243 I was working in the, uh, Bristol office 157 00:09:22,323 --> 00:09:23,763 of the Bristol Evening Post. 158 00:09:25,723 --> 00:09:28,923 And our newsroom had a bank of TV screens. 159 00:09:29,003 --> 00:09:31,403 Our BBC colleague Jill Dando has died 160 00:09:31,483 --> 00:09:33,723 after being attacked outside her London home. 161 00:09:33,803 --> 00:09:36,563 [Nigel] Reports were coming out that she had died. 162 00:09:38,083 --> 00:09:40,243 I clicked into sort of automatic mode. 163 00:09:40,923 --> 00:09:43,683 I thought I need to protect my dad from this. 164 00:09:45,723 --> 00:09:47,763 I rushed down to Weston-super-Mare. 165 00:09:51,363 --> 00:09:52,883 He was obviously devastated. 166 00:09:56,363 --> 00:09:59,163 I was wondering how we were going to cope with all this. 167 00:10:01,243 --> 00:10:04,043 About half an hour after I had got down to Weston, 168 00:10:04,123 --> 00:10:08,203 the TV reporter from BBC Points West knocked on the door. I knew him. 169 00:10:09,523 --> 00:10:12,083 And I sort of slipped back into journalistic mode. 170 00:10:12,843 --> 00:10:14,563 I gave him an interview. 171 00:10:14,643 --> 00:10:16,403 [man] When did you last see her? Was it… 172 00:10:16,483 --> 00:10:19,283 I saw her on, um… Easter Sunday. 173 00:10:19,363 --> 00:10:21,563 It would've been about two, three weeks ago. 174 00:10:21,643 --> 00:10:24,843 Yeah, she was on good form. Um, looking forward to her wedding. 175 00:10:27,083 --> 00:10:29,763 It was a sense of emptiness and a sense of despair. 176 00:10:32,403 --> 00:10:36,323 And I had to explain to my dad what had happened, 177 00:10:36,403 --> 00:10:37,963 what was going to happen. 178 00:10:39,763 --> 00:10:42,483 That we were kind of going to be in the eye of a storm. 179 00:10:42,563 --> 00:10:44,043 [helicopter hovering] 180 00:10:44,123 --> 00:10:45,843 [tense music playing] 181 00:10:49,763 --> 00:10:52,803 [male reporter] The police search is well underway now, Alan. 182 00:10:52,883 --> 00:10:55,643 There are a minimum of 30 detectives. 183 00:10:56,243 --> 00:10:59,883 You can see behind me the operation in front of Jill's home. 184 00:11:00,443 --> 00:11:02,163 [Hamish] All the resources came. 185 00:11:03,283 --> 00:11:07,443 The ballistics experts, the blood experts, the scene photographers. 186 00:11:10,563 --> 00:11:13,043 The scene itself had been heavily contaminated. 187 00:11:14,763 --> 00:11:17,243 Because there had been attempts to resuscitate. 188 00:11:18,523 --> 00:11:22,363 But everything was picked up, relevant or not, scrapings, gravel. 189 00:11:23,563 --> 00:11:25,883 Fingerprint marks from the gate. 190 00:11:26,443 --> 00:11:27,323 Fibers. 191 00:11:28,803 --> 00:11:32,163 We had a bullet and a cartridge casing on the doorstep. 192 00:11:34,123 --> 00:11:37,723 The ballistics expert told me it was a single shot 193 00:11:37,803 --> 00:11:39,283 to the left side of her head. 194 00:11:39,363 --> 00:11:42,083 Some thought like a professional execution. 195 00:11:43,603 --> 00:11:49,083 And that bullet and casing on the doorstep were from a 9mm caliber weapon. 196 00:11:51,603 --> 00:11:53,243 The search teams arrived. 197 00:11:53,323 --> 00:11:55,283 The whole of Gowan Avenue was searched. 198 00:11:55,843 --> 00:11:58,483 Bins, gardens, flowerbeds, shrubs. 199 00:11:58,563 --> 00:12:02,443 Looking to see if the gun had been discarded or anything had been discarded. 200 00:12:03,563 --> 00:12:06,563 We identified some of the key witnesses. 201 00:12:07,363 --> 00:12:10,043 The postman, a sort of Mediterranean-looking man, 202 00:12:10,123 --> 00:12:14,243 just after ten o'clock on the opposite side of the road to Jill's house, 203 00:12:15,483 --> 00:12:18,923 and a witness claimed he saw a man running across the road 204 00:12:19,003 --> 00:12:20,643 and he stopped at the bus stop. 205 00:12:21,763 --> 00:12:22,963 And he was sweating. 206 00:12:23,043 --> 00:12:25,123 [suspenseful music playing] 207 00:12:25,203 --> 00:12:26,843 There was a traffic warden, 208 00:12:26,923 --> 00:12:30,803 and she was about to give a ticket to the driver of a blue Range Rover, 209 00:12:30,883 --> 00:12:33,723 and as she was starting to write the ticket out, 210 00:12:33,803 --> 00:12:36,003 he brushed her off and he drove away. 211 00:12:38,283 --> 00:12:39,763 So, I didn't know at the time 212 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:43,443 whether there was one person involved or two or three. 213 00:12:45,043 --> 00:12:48,163 Everybody in that street on that day had to be eliminated out 214 00:12:48,243 --> 00:12:49,643 as much as possible. 215 00:12:49,723 --> 00:12:51,843 [vehicles honking] 216 00:12:54,483 --> 00:12:56,123 [birds squawking] 217 00:12:56,203 --> 00:12:58,003 [gripping music playing] 218 00:13:02,963 --> 00:13:08,803 The next day's newspapers were absolutely rammed with stories about the murder. 219 00:13:10,283 --> 00:13:12,803 It was the only story in town. 220 00:13:12,883 --> 00:13:15,723 On a sad morning, we'll be talking about poor Jill Dando. 221 00:13:15,803 --> 00:13:19,043 The shocking loss of one of Britain's best-known personalities 222 00:13:19,203 --> 00:13:20,163 drew many tributes. 223 00:13:20,363 --> 00:13:22,523 In London, police are investigating a murder 224 00:13:22,603 --> 00:13:24,803 that has shocked the television-viewing public. 225 00:13:24,883 --> 00:13:27,523 [reporter 1] Jill Dando was, in the opinion of many in Britain, 226 00:13:27,603 --> 00:13:29,763 second only to Princess Diana 227 00:13:29,843 --> 00:13:31,603 in terms of public affection. 228 00:13:32,283 --> 00:13:37,643 Jill Dando was someone who was known to, virtually, everybody in this country. 229 00:13:37,723 --> 00:13:40,483 [reporter 2] Even the Queen has been moved to comment, 230 00:13:40,563 --> 00:13:42,683 saying she is shocked and saddened. 231 00:13:43,283 --> 00:13:45,803 [woman] Following the death of Princess Diana, 232 00:13:46,523 --> 00:13:48,443 I would say that Jill Dando's murder 233 00:13:48,523 --> 00:13:52,843 was the biggest story that we will ever report on. 234 00:13:52,923 --> 00:13:54,563 [indistinct chatter] 235 00:13:56,123 --> 00:13:59,123 Female journalists of my generation were shaken by it 236 00:13:59,203 --> 00:14:02,403 because we saw ourselves in Jill. 237 00:14:04,563 --> 00:14:07,043 Jill had been a journalist. She loved the press. 238 00:14:07,123 --> 00:14:10,403 She was good to us, she respected us, she knew we were doing a job 239 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:13,483 and we wanted as much as the police 240 00:14:13,563 --> 00:14:17,043 to find out who did it because she was one of us. 241 00:14:17,803 --> 00:14:19,883 [gripping music playing] 242 00:14:22,243 --> 00:14:24,923 I was the crime correspondent at the Daily Mirror. 243 00:14:26,883 --> 00:14:30,723 I can remember discussing it with… with my news editor. 244 00:14:30,803 --> 00:14:33,643 And him saying to me, "So, what do you think about this?" 245 00:14:33,723 --> 00:14:35,883 He said, it must be something with Crimewatch. 246 00:14:35,963 --> 00:14:38,443 Well, not necessarily, hold your horses. 247 00:14:41,203 --> 00:14:45,283 One of the pieces of information coming in from one of our reporters on the ground 248 00:14:45,363 --> 00:14:50,043 was that they'd found a neighbor to Jill's house in Gowan Avenue 249 00:14:50,123 --> 00:14:52,123 who'd heard a scream. 250 00:14:52,203 --> 00:14:55,323 -[reporter] Did you hear a man's voice? -No man's voice at all. 251 00:14:55,403 --> 00:14:58,123 -Did you hear a shot or did you-- -There was no shots. 252 00:14:58,203 --> 00:15:01,283 From what I'd say was a shot, I didn't think there was a shot, no. 253 00:15:01,363 --> 00:15:03,363 [reporter] From your assessment, what did you hear? 254 00:15:03,443 --> 00:15:05,803 I did hear… a scream. 255 00:15:06,883 --> 00:15:09,163 I had a private conversation 256 00:15:09,243 --> 00:15:11,883 with one of the members of the murder squad. 257 00:15:12,603 --> 00:15:16,523 He said we cannot find any witnesses, any neighbors, 258 00:15:16,603 --> 00:15:20,843 anybody who was in the area at the time who actually heard a gunshot. 259 00:15:21,883 --> 00:15:25,123 We don't have the gun. We don't have anybody who saw the gun. 260 00:15:25,803 --> 00:15:28,323 But this weapon could have had a silencer on it. 261 00:15:30,443 --> 00:15:32,003 Unlike in the movies, 262 00:15:32,083 --> 00:15:36,723 a silencer on a gun is a very rare piece of equipment in real life. 263 00:15:37,803 --> 00:15:42,003 So, automatically, that suggestion steered us in the direction 264 00:15:42,083 --> 00:15:44,443 that maybe this was a professional job. 265 00:15:46,723 --> 00:15:50,243 Somebody asked the question, is this an assassination? 266 00:15:50,323 --> 00:15:52,363 Is this an execution? 267 00:15:52,443 --> 00:15:56,043 Like a political murder or an organized crime murder? 268 00:15:56,963 --> 00:16:00,923 So all the theories about, you know, the who, the what, the why, 269 00:16:01,683 --> 00:16:03,403 were starting to stack up. 270 00:16:04,523 --> 00:16:08,003 [male reporter] Jill Dando was left dying on the doorstep of her home. 271 00:16:08,083 --> 00:16:12,563 Revenge, perhaps, for her role as a crime reporter who helps jail top criminals. 272 00:16:24,963 --> 00:16:30,243 Everyone had a view on how Jill Dando was murdered and who was responsible. 273 00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:32,323 [intriguing music playing] 274 00:16:34,003 --> 00:16:37,283 Back to the office, I held a meeting with the team. 275 00:16:38,043 --> 00:16:41,403 I said, there's a danger of us being swept up with the media hype. 276 00:16:42,083 --> 00:16:45,523 And reminded them that, with any murder investigation, 277 00:16:45,603 --> 00:16:48,643 the victim was a key element to try to solve the case. 278 00:16:49,603 --> 00:16:51,523 So we needed to look at Jill's life. 279 00:16:52,083 --> 00:16:53,003 Who is Jill 280 00:16:53,843 --> 00:16:56,963 and who were the persons closest to her and nearer to her? 281 00:16:57,043 --> 00:16:58,083 I don't, I'm afraid. 282 00:16:58,163 --> 00:17:01,003 I'm one of these people who what you see is what you get. 283 00:17:01,083 --> 00:17:03,763 I don't think I've got any skeletons in the cupboard. 284 00:17:03,843 --> 00:17:05,003 [audience laughing] 285 00:17:13,323 --> 00:17:15,283 [children chattering] 286 00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:24,402 [Nigel] I was nine years old when Jill was born in 1961. 287 00:17:25,683 --> 00:17:28,483 Quite often on a Sunday as a family, 288 00:17:29,362 --> 00:17:31,323 we'd go down for a picnic on the beach. 289 00:17:32,603 --> 00:17:35,363 Do you remember those sand-blown lettuce sandwiches? 290 00:17:35,443 --> 00:17:36,363 [laughs] 291 00:17:36,443 --> 00:17:38,163 They were part of the staple diet 292 00:17:38,243 --> 00:17:40,443 of summers growing up in Weston-super-Mare. 293 00:17:40,523 --> 00:17:42,043 [nostalgic music playing] 294 00:17:42,123 --> 00:17:43,683 There wasn't much money around. 295 00:17:43,763 --> 00:17:45,923 We didn't have exotic holidays like that. 296 00:17:46,883 --> 00:17:49,083 I wonder whether she actually had a passport 297 00:17:49,923 --> 00:17:53,683 before she was offered the job as, uh, presenting the Holiday program. 298 00:17:53,763 --> 00:17:55,003 [imperceptible] 299 00:17:56,443 --> 00:18:00,083 It was almost preordained that she was going to become a journalist. 300 00:18:00,923 --> 00:18:05,763 Well, she was interested in words and, um, she was more outgoing than I was. 301 00:18:06,923 --> 00:18:10,083 I'd whisper in her ear occasionally saying, "Why are you still in Weston?" 302 00:18:10,163 --> 00:18:12,723 "Why don't you look for jobs around the place?" 303 00:18:13,443 --> 00:18:16,643 Thirty years ago, a computer capable of similar calculations 304 00:18:16,723 --> 00:18:19,163 wouldn't have fitted into a building this size. 305 00:18:19,243 --> 00:18:20,603 It would have been full of… 306 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:25,163 [Nigel] She got a job as a journalist on BBC Spotlight, based in Plymouth. 307 00:18:26,323 --> 00:18:29,323 And then became a presenter. 308 00:18:29,883 --> 00:18:32,923 They do mention the ethics committee refusing this idea. 309 00:18:33,003 --> 00:18:35,483 They've said no more sisters are going to be donors. 310 00:18:35,563 --> 00:18:38,163 [Nigel] She was so polished and so professional. 311 00:18:38,243 --> 00:18:40,963 …Fisherman depend is in deep financial trouble. 312 00:18:41,043 --> 00:18:44,563 [Nigel] But at the same time retaining a natural warmth about her. 313 00:18:44,643 --> 00:18:46,123 [laughing] 314 00:18:47,123 --> 00:18:48,763 Sort of a twinkle in her eye. 315 00:18:51,043 --> 00:18:53,123 Her performances on Spotlight 316 00:18:53,203 --> 00:18:55,963 caught the attention of the producers at BBC Breakfast. 317 00:18:56,043 --> 00:18:59,083 [man] …television made, is going up the line to Breakfast Time. 318 00:18:59,163 --> 00:19:01,003 [Nigel] The world by then was her oyster. 319 00:19:01,083 --> 00:19:03,883 -I must just-- -How many times have I done this now? 320 00:19:03,963 --> 00:19:06,523 Thank you very much. Oh, God. [laughs] 321 00:19:06,603 --> 00:19:08,323 -We wish you well, my darling. -Thank you. 322 00:19:08,403 --> 00:19:10,563 You better say goodnight for the last time. 323 00:19:10,643 --> 00:19:14,043 Good night from here and good morning from London on Monday. 324 00:19:14,123 --> 00:19:17,923 [producer] Page 45. Now, would you tell me what promos you're running? 325 00:19:18,003 --> 00:19:19,763 Give me that. Just hold on a second. 326 00:19:19,843 --> 00:19:21,163 No, Bob, I've got to know now. 327 00:19:21,243 --> 00:19:23,963 Run the first one. I'll confirm in a couple of seconds. 328 00:19:25,563 --> 00:19:26,843 I'm Bob Wheaton. 329 00:19:28,763 --> 00:19:33,083 At that time, I was, uh, running the six o'clock news. 330 00:19:36,483 --> 00:19:37,603 I can remember. 331 00:19:38,163 --> 00:19:39,803 There I was sitting at the desk. 332 00:19:39,883 --> 00:19:43,283 I'm ready to get the six o'clock news of the day prepared. 333 00:19:44,283 --> 00:19:47,243 And there on, um, BBC Breakfast Time… 334 00:19:47,323 --> 00:19:49,643 -Dementia has found more evidence… -…was Jill. 335 00:19:49,723 --> 00:19:51,363 …possible link with aluminum levels… 336 00:19:51,443 --> 00:19:52,643 [Bob] Hadn't seen her before. 337 00:19:52,723 --> 00:19:54,123 [Jill] The study, published in… 338 00:19:54,203 --> 00:19:56,203 She had a good face for television. 339 00:19:56,323 --> 00:19:58,603 While Frank Bruno's been preparing for his fight… 340 00:19:58,683 --> 00:20:02,123 [Bob] Her voice, beautiful, a classless English voice. 341 00:20:02,203 --> 00:20:03,963 …tussling with a television crew in Canada. 342 00:20:04,043 --> 00:20:05,163 She was a total natural. 343 00:20:05,883 --> 00:20:07,403 Winds of up to 100 miles an hour… 344 00:20:07,483 --> 00:20:10,283 [Bob] She shone and I knew she was gonna go places. 345 00:20:13,523 --> 00:20:16,163 But I think how you look does matter. 346 00:20:17,723 --> 00:20:20,843 And she'd arrived from provinces looking like a regional girl. 347 00:20:22,523 --> 00:20:26,643 I'd looked at her and said to her, "You need to sort the way your hair is, 348 00:20:26,723 --> 00:20:30,043 you need to wear the right clothes." She'd put on a lot of weight. 349 00:20:30,123 --> 00:20:33,483 And, you know, she was advised that she needed to look right. 350 00:20:34,443 --> 00:20:36,363 At the time she had curly, permed hair. 351 00:20:37,243 --> 00:20:38,923 Um, brown. 352 00:20:39,003 --> 00:20:41,483 And she wanted a different look. 353 00:20:42,203 --> 00:20:46,403 I think I suggested that we cut this short and, uh, see where we go with it. 354 00:20:46,483 --> 00:20:50,043 And she said, "I'm going to be on television. Should I ask my producer?" 355 00:20:50,123 --> 00:20:53,283 And I went, "No, probably not a good idea." 356 00:20:53,363 --> 00:20:54,843 [indistinct chatter] 357 00:20:56,803 --> 00:20:58,643 [device beeping] 358 00:21:00,723 --> 00:21:04,963 The government's £3.25 billion package to keep down the poll tax 359 00:21:05,043 --> 00:21:07,683 has been welcomed by Conservative backbenchers. 360 00:21:07,763 --> 00:21:09,883 [Martyn] It became quite a signature look. 361 00:21:09,963 --> 00:21:14,483 And in many ways I think people saw Jill as a TV Diana. 362 00:21:14,563 --> 00:21:15,563 [indistinct chatter] 363 00:21:15,643 --> 00:21:18,203 At that time, Diana would come down 364 00:21:18,283 --> 00:21:20,723 and we would probably do the occasional blow-dry. 365 00:21:22,363 --> 00:21:24,603 [male interviewer] Who had the haircut first? 366 00:21:25,643 --> 00:21:26,483 Jill. 367 00:21:30,603 --> 00:21:33,323 [Bob] Her hair was right. She had lost a lot of weight. 368 00:21:33,403 --> 00:21:38,283 Her diction was perfect. She had a charm about the way she presented the news. 369 00:21:38,363 --> 00:21:39,923 Well, a fine weekend in prospects. 370 00:21:40,003 --> 00:21:42,283 And people regarded her as a girl next door 371 00:21:42,363 --> 00:21:46,283 who was giving them, uh, the authority of BBC News and it was a good package. 372 00:21:48,123 --> 00:21:52,523 I suppose in celebrating the success, we got closer. 373 00:21:53,563 --> 00:21:55,803 And, uh, eventually we became involved. 374 00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:59,963 [Jennie] Jill got involved with Bob very early on, 375 00:22:00,043 --> 00:22:02,723 so that was always quite-- I don't want to say this on camera. 376 00:22:02,803 --> 00:22:06,363 It was a difficult situation. She was… She was with the boss. 377 00:22:08,683 --> 00:22:10,923 I think the top will probably be South Africa again. 378 00:22:11,003 --> 00:22:12,323 Today, or rather today… 379 00:22:12,403 --> 00:22:14,803 [Jon] I always thought it was a very strange relationship 380 00:22:14,883 --> 00:22:16,523 because she was so freewheeling… 381 00:22:17,163 --> 00:22:18,323 Just hanging fine… 382 00:22:18,483 --> 00:22:24,963 And he was quite a control freak, but in a very quiet way. 383 00:22:25,043 --> 00:22:28,603 There was no bad word said, it was like I, you know… 384 00:22:29,523 --> 00:22:32,643 "Shh. Let me explain. This is what it is." 385 00:22:32,723 --> 00:22:34,203 It was that kind of relationship. 386 00:22:34,283 --> 00:22:36,923 …section which has got library film and graphics and so on. 387 00:22:38,363 --> 00:22:40,003 Jill was at the top of her game. 388 00:22:40,083 --> 00:22:41,923 She'd choose what she wanted to do. 389 00:22:42,003 --> 00:22:44,323 [crowd cheering, applauding] 390 00:22:44,403 --> 00:22:48,403 I was brought in as a young journalist, I think I was about 23. 391 00:22:48,483 --> 00:22:50,443 [pensive music playing] 392 00:22:50,523 --> 00:22:52,243 I really looked up to Jill. 393 00:22:52,323 --> 00:22:55,323 Um, she was absolutely where I wanted to end up. 394 00:22:55,403 --> 00:22:56,763 The headlines this morning… 395 00:22:56,843 --> 00:22:58,723 [Anastasia] But it was really hard. 396 00:22:59,603 --> 00:23:02,083 It was difficult not to feel a bit of an imposter. 397 00:23:02,163 --> 00:23:04,683 [Jill] Could we have? I wouldn't mind some scripts. 398 00:23:04,763 --> 00:23:07,043 [Anastasia] Sitting next to these alpha males, 399 00:23:07,123 --> 00:23:10,883 sometimes she was made to feel inferior. 400 00:23:10,963 --> 00:23:13,003 So often when he's talking to ladies who say 401 00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:14,723 it's harder for us in broadcasting. 402 00:23:14,803 --> 00:23:17,643 And I keep thinking, absolute nonsense, I mean, you know, 403 00:23:17,723 --> 00:23:20,603 if you're a good-looking woman, then it is not difficult. 404 00:23:20,683 --> 00:23:23,203 -It, well… -It is easier. 405 00:23:23,283 --> 00:23:26,883 No. I think people expect more of women, that's the trouble, you know… 406 00:23:26,963 --> 00:23:29,283 As Jill's, uh, career is advancing, 407 00:23:30,323 --> 00:23:33,203 one of the problems that she had, 408 00:23:33,283 --> 00:23:38,923 all the women had, was that it was a very male-dominated company. 409 00:23:39,643 --> 00:23:43,323 To be absolutely honest, it was quite misogynistic. 410 00:23:44,803 --> 00:23:47,163 All sorts of men will be regarded as controlling 411 00:23:47,243 --> 00:23:50,403 because men are especially… Tough editors are tough sometimes. 412 00:23:50,483 --> 00:23:54,163 But controlling in a way which is detrimental to the relationship 413 00:23:54,243 --> 00:23:56,563 or to the person, not at all. 414 00:23:56,643 --> 00:23:58,963 [intriguing music playing] 415 00:24:03,843 --> 00:24:07,123 The reality is, most people are killed by someone they know. 416 00:24:09,763 --> 00:24:12,843 The people in her inner circle were Alan Farthing, her fiancé. 417 00:24:14,523 --> 00:24:18,883 Her previous partner for, who had been her partner for some years, seven years. 418 00:24:18,963 --> 00:24:20,323 Mr. Wheaton. 419 00:24:22,883 --> 00:24:26,683 And her business agent, Mr. Roseman. 420 00:24:27,883 --> 00:24:32,203 They had to be seen and interviewed and eliminated primarily by alibi. 421 00:24:32,963 --> 00:24:37,963 If you could show you were somewhere else on the 26th of April, in that time frame, 422 00:24:38,483 --> 00:24:39,843 you can't be the murderer. 423 00:24:39,923 --> 00:24:44,203 But it doesn't necessarily remove yourself from somehow arranging for her murder, 424 00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:45,923 if that was the situation. 425 00:24:51,563 --> 00:24:53,003 [indistinct chatter] 426 00:24:54,043 --> 00:24:57,043 First of all I wanted to ask how you're coping at the moment. 427 00:24:58,563 --> 00:25:01,483 I think I'm coping in the same way as 428 00:25:02,163 --> 00:25:04,523 anybody else would cope under the circumstances. 429 00:25:04,603 --> 00:25:06,963 I'm devastated. 430 00:25:07,043 --> 00:25:10,323 Everybody around me is devastated. 431 00:25:10,403 --> 00:25:12,043 -[indistinct clamoring] -Hi. 432 00:25:12,963 --> 00:25:14,923 [indistinct conversation] 433 00:25:15,003 --> 00:25:18,163 [Alan] I cannot understand why they would want to kill 434 00:25:18,243 --> 00:25:21,843 -somebody as gentle… -This was my mother's… 435 00:25:21,923 --> 00:25:25,083 …kind, well-meaning and 436 00:25:26,163 --> 00:25:27,803 as perfect a person as Jill. 437 00:25:27,883 --> 00:25:28,723 Yes. 438 00:25:28,803 --> 00:25:30,683 The best daytime television program. 439 00:25:39,963 --> 00:25:41,603 [Nigel] I'll always remember it. 440 00:25:43,523 --> 00:25:48,403 We were in the back of a limousine following Jill's coffin. 441 00:25:50,603 --> 00:25:54,243 There were just thousands of people who'd come out. 442 00:25:59,803 --> 00:26:01,003 Weston just stopped. 443 00:26:01,083 --> 00:26:03,163 [melancholy music playing] 444 00:26:08,443 --> 00:26:11,603 I didn't know her personally, but I thought I'd like to be here. 445 00:26:15,043 --> 00:26:19,283 [woman] Diana was our rose, but Jill was our sunflower. 446 00:26:20,243 --> 00:26:21,923 I can't say any more. 447 00:26:24,963 --> 00:26:28,243 [male reporter] A hundred or so people were invited to the church. 448 00:26:28,323 --> 00:26:31,043 Many of her friends worked with her at the BBC. 449 00:26:33,323 --> 00:26:36,043 The coffin arrived at the church at three o'clock. 450 00:26:36,123 --> 00:26:38,323 It was accompanied by her brother, Nigel. 451 00:26:38,963 --> 00:26:40,323 Her father, Jack. 452 00:26:41,323 --> 00:26:44,523 And, of course, by the man she would have married this September, 453 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,443 her fiancé, Alan Farthing. 454 00:26:48,523 --> 00:26:52,723 [Martyn] When Jill met Alan, it was quite a life-changing moment for her. 455 00:26:54,443 --> 00:26:58,683 A moment that she'd thought about and had dreams of for quite a while. 456 00:26:59,883 --> 00:27:02,883 She'd announced her engagement. 457 00:27:04,883 --> 00:27:07,963 She should have been in a church getting married, you know, 458 00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:10,243 and here she was in a church being buried. 459 00:27:15,363 --> 00:27:20,763 [priest] Life was entering a new, exciting, fulfilling age. 460 00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:24,523 Until that fateful moment, 461 00:27:25,923 --> 00:27:28,683 Jill, the beautiful girl next door, 462 00:27:28,763 --> 00:27:33,123 known to every family in the country, was shot dead. 463 00:27:33,923 --> 00:27:37,923 And then everyone was asking the question, "Why?" 464 00:27:41,443 --> 00:27:44,083 [Hamish] Some of my key thinking about it was, 465 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,723 if someone deliberately set out to kill her, 466 00:27:46,803 --> 00:27:50,643 why would they choose to kill her? What was to be gained from that? 467 00:27:51,283 --> 00:27:54,923 What benefit would anybody accrue from killing Jill Dando? 468 00:27:56,163 --> 00:27:59,763 And then Alan Farthing mentioned that a large sum of money, 469 00:27:59,843 --> 00:28:01,443 over £30,000, £35,000, 470 00:28:01,523 --> 00:28:04,123 was given by Jill to Mr. Wheaton. 471 00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:06,763 [intriguing music playing] 472 00:28:08,123 --> 00:28:12,683 So, that had to be investigated as to why that sum of money had been given over. 473 00:28:21,123 --> 00:28:23,603 [Bob] After the funeral, the police came to see me. 474 00:28:23,683 --> 00:28:27,643 And one of the policemen goes, "Well, we've had this report 475 00:28:27,723 --> 00:28:31,203 that you owed her quite a lot of money, 476 00:28:31,283 --> 00:28:35,603 um, and you still owed it to her when she died." 477 00:28:35,683 --> 00:28:38,203 "Uh, would you like to explain that?" 478 00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:41,563 I said, "Yeah. Yeah. I'm quite happy to do that." 479 00:28:41,643 --> 00:28:43,763 [intriguing music playing] 480 00:28:43,843 --> 00:28:47,803 And you sort of feel, gosh, you know, the light is on me here. 481 00:28:49,403 --> 00:28:51,643 They wanted to know about how we met, 482 00:28:51,723 --> 00:28:54,683 um, how long we'd been together, uh, how did we break up. 483 00:28:56,363 --> 00:29:00,763 And yes, she had contributed towards me buying my house by the river. 484 00:29:02,803 --> 00:29:05,923 I said, I had a mortgage, um, but there was a small shortfall. 485 00:29:06,003 --> 00:29:08,843 I could've had a bigger mortgage, but she wanted to share 486 00:29:08,923 --> 00:29:11,563 because we were then sharing the house together. 487 00:29:13,483 --> 00:29:17,523 And by the way, I do not need that much money that badly. 488 00:29:17,603 --> 00:29:20,723 I can show you the evidence of why, and I took him to my computer, 489 00:29:20,803 --> 00:29:26,843 went into my bank account and showed him, um, that I had quite a lot of money. 490 00:29:27,763 --> 00:29:29,963 She was generous to everybody, including me. 491 00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:32,163 We loved each other. 492 00:29:32,243 --> 00:29:34,763 I wouldn't have ever thought of doing something like that. 493 00:29:36,043 --> 00:29:42,403 To have lost somebody with whom, uh, I had spent valuable, interesting, 494 00:29:42,483 --> 00:29:46,363 important and enjoyable years was a massive blow. 495 00:29:46,443 --> 00:29:48,483 [pensive music playing] 496 00:29:50,763 --> 00:29:53,843 [Hamish] Well, the things that are innocuous can appear suspicious. 497 00:29:55,683 --> 00:29:59,163 I think it was just a gift from Jill to Mr. Wheaton. 498 00:30:00,203 --> 00:30:02,523 You know, you talk about things in detail 499 00:30:02,603 --> 00:30:05,483 but when following death, things can emerge, 500 00:30:06,363 --> 00:30:10,563 but they're almost tittle-tattle, gossip, salacious or otherwise. 501 00:30:11,123 --> 00:30:15,283 But it doesn't move you into the realm of responsibility for killing someone. 502 00:30:19,043 --> 00:30:20,603 We concluded that he was… 503 00:30:20,683 --> 00:30:22,883 he had nothing to do with the murder at all. 504 00:30:24,523 --> 00:30:27,603 And we needed to sift out all that noise 505 00:30:27,683 --> 00:30:30,923 and try to really focus on basic principles 506 00:30:31,003 --> 00:30:34,563 before getting carried away further and further down different avenues. 507 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:42,203 Jill didn't live at 29 Gowan Avenue. 508 00:30:42,283 --> 00:30:45,923 She lived with her fiancé, further out in West London. 509 00:30:47,083 --> 00:30:52,363 We knew she visited Gowan Avenue rarely and stayed overnight even more rarely. 510 00:30:53,723 --> 00:30:57,563 So to know that Jill would turn up at 29 Gowan Avenue 511 00:30:57,643 --> 00:31:00,083 on Monday morning by 11:30, 512 00:31:00,723 --> 00:31:02,843 you would have to have been following her. 513 00:31:02,923 --> 00:31:05,323 -[suspenseful music playing] -[device beeping] 514 00:31:07,803 --> 00:31:11,163 [detective inspector] I was the deputy on the inquiry. 515 00:31:12,043 --> 00:31:15,803 It was a painstaking process. 516 00:31:16,563 --> 00:31:18,763 Two officers going through 517 00:31:18,843 --> 00:31:24,003 the many hundreds of hours of CCTV. 518 00:31:28,923 --> 00:31:33,243 There were thousands of people to eliminate from the inquiry. 519 00:31:37,043 --> 00:31:42,723 Nothing would be discounted until each had been evaluated 520 00:31:42,803 --> 00:31:45,963 to a degree by one of the team. 521 00:31:46,723 --> 00:31:50,763 There was over 190 CCTV and cameras in the surrounding streets. 522 00:31:52,363 --> 00:31:55,323 Four hundred and thirty hours of viewing time. 523 00:31:56,763 --> 00:32:00,683 And from that we established Jill's movements on the 26th of April. 524 00:32:02,763 --> 00:32:04,723 Started from Alan Farthing's home. 525 00:32:04,803 --> 00:32:06,643 [suspenseful music playing] 526 00:32:14,523 --> 00:32:16,643 She stopped at a petrol station. 527 00:32:19,003 --> 00:32:20,403 Filled the car with petrol. 528 00:32:22,443 --> 00:32:26,363 And then she left the petrol station and she went into Hammersmith town center. 529 00:32:37,283 --> 00:32:41,243 Went to at least two shops, maybe three, to buy some fax paper or copying paper. 530 00:32:51,403 --> 00:32:52,723 She returned to her car. 531 00:32:58,123 --> 00:33:01,443 Then she left Hammersmith and travelled south down to Fulham Road. 532 00:33:02,923 --> 00:33:04,923 Then she got down to near Gowan Avenue, 533 00:33:05,003 --> 00:33:06,683 parked right outside her house. 534 00:33:11,283 --> 00:33:13,043 And then she walked up the gateway. 535 00:33:19,243 --> 00:33:20,643 And killed at the doorstep. 536 00:33:23,043 --> 00:33:28,363 [Ian] It was simply a matter of just plodding through everything. 537 00:33:29,123 --> 00:33:34,403 And we can categorically say, 100%, that she wasn't followed. 538 00:33:38,643 --> 00:33:41,483 So, how did the killer know 539 00:33:42,243 --> 00:33:45,363 that she was going to be at Gowan Avenue that morning? 540 00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:49,683 And then the thinking 541 00:33:50,923 --> 00:33:53,523 is that Jill told somebody where she was. 542 00:33:56,083 --> 00:33:59,723 So we did look at the phone calls to her on that day. 543 00:34:00,843 --> 00:34:03,123 Who knew she was going to be where she was? 544 00:34:05,083 --> 00:34:06,803 There was one person alone. 545 00:34:08,003 --> 00:34:09,163 Mr. Roseman. 546 00:34:13,523 --> 00:34:18,682 Jon Roseman was Jill's very colorful agent. 547 00:34:18,762 --> 00:34:22,282 Um, I had lots of dealings with Jon over the years. 548 00:34:23,003 --> 00:34:28,242 He was very, uh, shall I say, robust to deal with. 549 00:34:28,323 --> 00:34:32,843 He was very straight-talking. Uh, you knew when you'd upset him. 550 00:34:32,923 --> 00:34:34,923 There's a very famous story about him 551 00:34:35,003 --> 00:34:39,323 going around somewhere with a baseball bat to, uh… to show his feelings. 552 00:34:39,403 --> 00:34:41,403 [gripping music playing] 553 00:34:45,523 --> 00:34:48,843 [Jon] The police, they came to visit me on a Saturday morning. 554 00:34:50,923 --> 00:34:52,883 And they asked me about this timeline. 555 00:34:54,603 --> 00:34:58,363 Because the only reason she went there that day was to pick up some faxes 556 00:34:58,443 --> 00:35:01,803 that had been sent to her from my office about some work. 557 00:35:03,443 --> 00:35:06,643 She was on her way to a lunch, I think it was. 558 00:35:07,723 --> 00:35:09,643 And so she just, like, literally stopped off 559 00:35:09,723 --> 00:35:11,483 back to her house to pick up faxes. 560 00:35:12,883 --> 00:35:14,683 [keys jingling] 561 00:35:14,763 --> 00:35:18,843 One of the things that they were interested in was my book. 562 00:35:20,483 --> 00:35:22,363 I had always wanted to be a writer. 563 00:35:23,043 --> 00:35:25,603 And so I had written a book. 564 00:35:26,603 --> 00:35:28,563 They always say, write about what you know, 565 00:35:28,643 --> 00:35:30,203 so I wrote about an agent. 566 00:35:31,483 --> 00:35:36,243 An agent whose clients were murdered under mysterious circumstances. 567 00:35:36,323 --> 00:35:37,643 A client who'd been shot. 568 00:35:39,323 --> 00:35:41,283 [Hamish] Mr. Roseman had written a book 569 00:35:41,363 --> 00:35:45,483 which involved the death of a presenter or personality. 570 00:35:46,163 --> 00:35:49,963 So that seemed ironic that he's writing a novel 571 00:35:50,043 --> 00:35:52,163 which actually then occurred in real life. 572 00:35:55,363 --> 00:35:58,883 [Jon] The police, there were two of them, sitting in my office, 573 00:35:58,963 --> 00:36:00,683 and we talked it through 574 00:36:00,763 --> 00:36:04,963 and they asked me if I had a manuscript of the book, which I did. 575 00:36:05,043 --> 00:36:08,243 And they also said, "What was the time difference 576 00:36:08,323 --> 00:36:12,923 between the first murder in the book and the second murder in the book?" 577 00:36:13,003 --> 00:36:16,403 And I'm thinking, like I was in the Twilight Zone. 578 00:36:16,483 --> 00:36:18,683 I thought, he's not taking this seriously, 579 00:36:18,763 --> 00:36:24,083 like somebody's had my manuscript and is following the plan of the book? 580 00:36:24,683 --> 00:36:28,723 [male interviewer] Did you think whether others might be suspecting you? 581 00:36:29,243 --> 00:36:30,283 [laughs] 582 00:36:30,363 --> 00:36:33,163 Well, I'd have to have paid someone to do it, that's for sure. 583 00:36:35,523 --> 00:36:36,963 But I had this reputation, 584 00:36:37,043 --> 00:36:41,243 and yes, I was really tough, but it was just an act. 585 00:36:42,203 --> 00:36:45,563 And anybody who suspected that I would cut off 586 00:36:45,643 --> 00:36:49,803 a financial revenue like Jill Dando's would have to be insane. 587 00:36:49,883 --> 00:36:50,883 [chuckles] 588 00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:53,283 [director] Action. 589 00:36:53,363 --> 00:36:54,443 Well, that's all for this-- 590 00:36:54,523 --> 00:36:56,443 Hang on, I can't see the lens. 591 00:36:56,523 --> 00:36:58,483 [man] When you turn, bring your body around. 592 00:36:58,563 --> 00:36:59,763 Oh, okay, right. I'm going… 593 00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:02,803 [Jon] I mean, it sounds terrible, but had we not sent her any faxes… 594 00:37:02,883 --> 00:37:04,203 That's all from Mauritius. 595 00:37:04,283 --> 00:37:06,483 Next week I'll be on the Greek island of Skiathos. 596 00:37:06,563 --> 00:37:08,203 I'm not going to say-- 597 00:37:08,283 --> 00:37:11,643 Had she not gone back to the house that day, it wouldn't have happened. 598 00:37:11,723 --> 00:37:14,163 Who knows how, where else it would have happened, 599 00:37:14,243 --> 00:37:17,123 but that was the reason she went back to the house. 600 00:37:23,843 --> 00:37:26,883 I do find this kind of stuff really difficult to talk about. 601 00:37:27,883 --> 00:37:32,243 Oh! It's just so glamorous. It's wonderful. Let me at it. 602 00:37:33,763 --> 00:37:35,963 Everything was going so well for her. 603 00:37:37,123 --> 00:37:41,803 I came here unescorted, but I'm told that a prince is waiting in the wings. 604 00:37:41,883 --> 00:37:44,203 [Jon] I mean, nobody has a life like that, right? 605 00:37:44,283 --> 00:37:46,763 We would love to have a life like that, right? 606 00:37:46,843 --> 00:37:48,523 But Jill had a life like that. 607 00:37:49,443 --> 00:37:53,203 It's not! It's not. It's not. 608 00:37:53,283 --> 00:37:55,163 [both laugh] 609 00:37:56,163 --> 00:37:58,363 Listen, I'm… Jill, I'm so sorry about this. 610 00:37:58,443 --> 00:38:02,803 I… I find her death still difficult to come to terms with. 611 00:38:04,563 --> 00:38:08,363 -Do you mind if I whirl her away? -Oh, you may whirl. I can't believe it. 612 00:38:09,803 --> 00:38:10,763 [clicks tongue] 613 00:38:10,843 --> 00:38:11,763 There you go. 614 00:38:19,883 --> 00:38:24,323 None of that inner group of people was responsible for Jill Dando's murder. 615 00:38:25,683 --> 00:38:30,083 And we still didn't have an understanding of the reason why Jill had been killed. 616 00:38:33,803 --> 00:38:36,083 We had to properly focus down. 617 00:38:37,843 --> 00:38:39,363 [suspenseful music playing] 618 00:38:39,443 --> 00:38:42,043 Who was the man who had been seen running away? 619 00:38:44,163 --> 00:38:46,203 Who was driving the blue Range Rover? 620 00:38:48,563 --> 00:38:50,403 And who was the sweating man? 621 00:38:57,283 --> 00:39:00,323 [Jeff] I knew by then from talking to my contacts, 622 00:39:00,403 --> 00:39:04,523 that the murder of Jill Dando caused, you know, huge consternation 623 00:39:05,123 --> 00:39:08,563 within the hierarchy at Scotland Yard as well 624 00:39:09,403 --> 00:39:12,683 because Jill Dando was perceived as part of the policing family. 625 00:39:13,403 --> 00:39:16,883 But they were bedeviled by the fact that they didn't have a suspect. 626 00:39:16,963 --> 00:39:18,323 They didn't have a murder weapon. 627 00:39:19,163 --> 00:39:20,043 [Hamish] Morning. 628 00:39:20,123 --> 00:39:24,123 Are you any closer to knowing either a suspect or a motive for this killing? 629 00:39:24,203 --> 00:39:27,123 We don't know the person who killed Jill Dando at this time 630 00:39:27,203 --> 00:39:30,403 and we're trying to establish a motive as to why she was killed. 631 00:39:30,483 --> 00:39:33,283 And our main inquiry focuses on determining the motive. 632 00:39:33,363 --> 00:39:37,203 Once we establish the motive, we will be able to move forward more rapidly 633 00:39:37,283 --> 00:39:38,883 as to who the suspect or suspects are. 634 00:39:38,963 --> 00:39:40,003 [indistinct chatter] 635 00:39:40,083 --> 00:39:44,483 The red-top news business won't tolerate a vacuum, right? 636 00:39:44,563 --> 00:39:47,003 They want information. They've got pages to fill. 637 00:39:47,083 --> 00:39:49,923 I could see the clouds gathering on the horizon 638 00:39:50,003 --> 00:39:54,283 and I knew, unless they solved this crime really quickly, 639 00:39:54,363 --> 00:39:56,123 it was only a short matter of time 640 00:39:56,203 --> 00:40:00,843 before we started to become deluged with all sorts of theories. 641 00:40:02,563 --> 00:40:04,563 [gripping music playing] 642 00:40:10,843 --> 00:40:13,523 [reporter] In the absence of any obvious motive for the attack, 643 00:40:13,603 --> 00:40:17,883 speculation, and it is only that, focuses on a possible stalker. 644 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:22,963 Jill Dando had had problems with obsessive fans in the past, 645 00:40:23,043 --> 00:40:25,163 as one close colleague recalls. 646 00:40:25,683 --> 00:40:29,843 I don't think she was in any sense, in fear of, certainly not in mortal fear 647 00:40:29,923 --> 00:40:33,203 of anything happening to her. She was irritated from time to time. 648 00:40:33,283 --> 00:40:36,163 Uh, there had been somebody stalking her. 649 00:40:36,243 --> 00:40:40,363 Um, I mean, to be honest, that's really, it goes with the turf. 650 00:40:41,603 --> 00:40:44,843 Anyone who is in the public eye, and Jill was in the public eye 651 00:40:44,923 --> 00:40:49,123 more than almost anybody, um, does have certain threats. 652 00:40:49,203 --> 00:40:51,803 We used to get all the mail coming to our office. 653 00:40:54,843 --> 00:40:57,203 Some mail might be a little bit eh-eh, 654 00:40:57,283 --> 00:41:00,803 so you had to be careful and just take some of these letters away. 655 00:41:00,883 --> 00:41:03,723 But they weren't threatening, they were just, well, you know. 656 00:41:03,803 --> 00:41:05,643 There's a lot of perverts out there. 657 00:41:08,403 --> 00:41:13,043 But then we received a letter from somebody claiming to be a Serb. 658 00:41:14,163 --> 00:41:17,283 It was in relation to the appeal 659 00:41:17,363 --> 00:41:20,083 that Jill had given earlier that month for Kosovo. 660 00:41:20,163 --> 00:41:21,963 This weekend we've all become aware 661 00:41:22,043 --> 00:41:24,683 of the humanitarian crisis facing the Balkans, 662 00:41:24,763 --> 00:41:26,523 as thousands of people from Kosovo… 663 00:41:26,603 --> 00:41:29,243 [Jon] The letter seemed to be somewhat threatening. 664 00:41:30,163 --> 00:41:33,363 Whatever you can afford can make a big difference to these people's lives 665 00:41:33,443 --> 00:41:35,403 and their chances of survival. 666 00:41:35,483 --> 00:41:38,963 [Jeff] The Balkan War had been going on in the former Yugoslavia, 667 00:41:39,043 --> 00:41:41,523 you know, which had split into various states, 668 00:41:41,603 --> 00:41:44,203 you know, Serbia and Kosovo and so forth. 669 00:41:44,843 --> 00:41:46,643 It was a very horrible war. 670 00:41:48,003 --> 00:41:52,763 So, when it started to emerge that her agent had a threatening letter… 671 00:41:53,763 --> 00:41:58,683 Then the BBC started to get threats by telephone. 672 00:41:58,763 --> 00:42:01,003 The hair on the back of my neck stood up. 673 00:42:02,163 --> 00:42:05,763 [male reporter 1] The murder of one of the country's best-known TV personalities 674 00:42:05,843 --> 00:42:07,363 has taken a frightening turn. 675 00:42:07,443 --> 00:42:10,803 [male reporter 2] The TV center where Jill Dando worked received a phone call. 676 00:42:10,883 --> 00:42:13,203 It was from a man claiming to be Serbian, 677 00:42:13,283 --> 00:42:15,723 saying he was behind the star's death. 678 00:42:19,323 --> 00:42:21,323 [theme music playing]