♪ MTV.♪
♪ ♪
SYLVESTER: I love all this.
[laughing]
-[honking] -ARNOLD: Whiskey, no-no.
SYLVESTER: Wow. I didn't know you had house guests.
Oh, yeah. [laughs]
-Good to see you. -SYLVESTER: Great. Good to see you.
You know, I've heard of house pets, but seriously?
Lulu and Whiskey, they come to visit me,
like, here in the office,
a special day out.
Sometimes I walk them around down by the beach.
You know, they always look at the dogs,
and the dogs look at them kind of like...
-No, you don't. -Yeah. Absolutely.
-Come on. -Yeah.
What happens when they drop a steamer in here?
So what? You just clean it up.
I'm not worried about it.
[chuckling]
Arnold.
My God, what a relationship we've had.
ARNOLD: Let me show you around a little bit.
SYLVESTER: I came into California
for the weekend. Meanwhile,
I'm still going back and forth
doing Tulsa King for months.
So it's great to be back and then
catch up a little bit.
This is the famous Conan sword.
-This is it? -Yeah, this is it.
It's 11 pounds.
[imitating gunfire]
No, this is not to shoot, this is just to cut.
-Show the blade. -Oh, sorry. See?
-Hold the blade. Exactly. -I'm getting Conan lessons.
Chest out.
SYLVESTER: Even though we were very adversarial
when we were younger,
because we were competitive,
became something, we realized we're incredibly alike.
Cut from the same cloths.
Now that is a selfie.
And now I love the guy.
Since Halloween is coming up, I got two pumpkins.
So I thought it would be funny
for us to do it together, right here in the office.
-Two pumpkin heads do it. -Since you're here.
SYLVESTER: I've done a lot of extreme things in my life.
I've gone over waterfalls,
I've jumped in front of a tank, I've done horse stunts.
But I've never done anything quite as extreme and dangerous
as carving a pumpkin with Conan.
ARNOLD: Wait.
-It's how they do it. -Yes!
I'll be done by the time you get the goddamn head off.
Rip your brains out. There's a reason I played Rambo.
I'm sloppy in the way I write a screenplay.
Just go for it.
The mouth.
That's like my mouth.
[imitates mumbling]
ARNOLD: Okay, guys, turn out the lights.
Let's create drama.
-Yeah. -Yeah.
Un-freaking-believable.
Oh, yours is really scary.
-Thank you, brother. -Absolutely.
Thank you, donkeys.
Come here, boy.
-[honking] -Hey, don't be an ass.
♪ Talk to me, baby♪
♪ I'm goin' blind from this sweet, sweet craving, whoa-oh♪
♪ Let's lose our minds and go crazy-crazy♪
♪ I-I-I-I-I♪
♪ ♪
♪ I-I-I-I-I.♪
Sophia, come in. Over.
SOPHIA: I'm here. Over. What's up?
Nothing. Just wanted to see what you were doing.
Over.
Say over.
SOPHIA: Over. Over and under.
Sistine and I finally found the perfect place
right next to each other,
and it's just so much fun.
We work, eat, sleep,
do everything together. I need to have someone
nearby that's my family.
And if it's going to be anybody, it's definitely
going to be my sister Sistine.
It's really not that messy.
You act like it's way worse.
This is fine.
Do you have so many candles
'cause you're trying to, like, mask the smell?
-Okay, first off... -[laughs]
SISTINE: See, like, you have a book
in your fruit bowl right now.
And the bananas aren't even in the bowl.
Oh. What's hidden behind this blanket, Sophia?
Stop!
SISTINE: Lots of crap. Let's see.
You have shampoo, period pads,
broken glass in here?
-Well, no, those are expired. -So throw them away.
SOPHIA: Honestly, when you cover something, it's gone.
SISTINE: Literally, you could put everything out here in there.
-It is empty. -I know, but I'm gonna forget
that it's in there.
Well, now, now I'm really not gonna remember...
Hello. There we go.
Give me a freaking break.
SISTINE: You know what?
Your room was decorated way better than mine.
Mine's like a sterile hospital.
-SOPHIA: Yes. -That's what I was going for.
If I ever get surgery again, I'll lay on your couch.
You said again. That's so sad.
Well, it hasn't been the first.
SISTINE: When is your next appointment, by the way?
Mm, I think the end of next week.
Are you nervous to see your cardiologist?
I'm a little nervous.
I was born with a hole in my heart.
When I was two months old, I was really sick, throwing up.
And the 12 doctors that my mom
sent me to, no one could figure it out.
And thankfully, with my mom's determination,
she found a doctor that found the hole.
So I had my first operation
and I lived my life totally fine.
One day when I was 16,
I was playing volleyball and I fainted.
It was really scary having to go from living this normal life
when I was 16 to having to have my chest sawed open.
The moment I found out
I needed an operation was one of the most
pivotal experiences of my entire life
because I never had to consider death before.
I think what was really hard during that time
was, like, Mom had rashes all over her body.
The best thing for you is just to relax.
Dad couldn't even talk to me without, like, crying about it.
It's really... I'm not...
It's really traumatizing when you see the people
that you think are going to be,
like, the ones that should be like,
"You're going to be 100% fine,"
like break down harder than you were.
My dad and I never really had any conversation
over my heart surgery because he really just didn't know
how to deal with it.
My dad asked Sistine and I to go
to Oklahoma for his new show
and I really want to talk to him
about this experience.
Especially with my appointment coming up.
You're so strong.
Thank you.
♪ ♪
Whoo. I'm excited.
-You've never been? -No.
MAN: Welcome to Country General Store.
-SISTINE: Oh, hi. We need help. -MAN: Uh-huh.
So I need pants, I need a shirt, possibly a nice hat.
You in the right place.
SISTINE: Sophia and I are at this Western shop
because we are on our way to OKC
with my dad, so, hopefully, with that comes
some horseback riding.
So what better place to get the gear?
-That's a gorgeous shirt right there. -Gorgeous.
I started riding horses when I was 15 years old,
and competed all around Los Angeles.
I even qualified
for the national championship for my age group.
SYLVERSTER: Slap leather. Let's go, girl. Turn it on.
There it is. Whoo!
SISTINE: Riding is something
that my dad and I bonded over
so much when I was growing up,
until when I was about 19,
I decided to stop riding horses
to pursue a modeling career in New York,
which sounds
quite embarrassing to say out loud
that I would choose to be a coat hanger instead of a cowgirl.
I don't understand how I just didn't see it at the time.
SYLVESTER: You went on a modeling interview today?
Yes.
Actually, they gave me the job
and told you you need to work on your looks a little bit more.
-Oh, how rude. -[Sylvester chuckles]
And so I want to get back on a horse.
This is what makes me happy.
I'm getting very nostalgic right now.
I want to, basically, encapsulate that feeling
that I had with Dad when I was little,
and try to make them happen again 'cause it was so much fun.
-Right. -It's hard to find time
'cause he's always on set
and traveling, so when we did have those moments
of doing something that we both really love together,
that was the best.
-I mean, it's in our blood. -Right?
-Our name is "Stallion." -Yeah.
You know how happy I would be
if I could be a full-time cowgirl forever?
-I know. -Be self-sufficient on the land.
-And these are perfect. -MAN: Oh, yeah. I-- [laughs]
SOPHIA: Oh, yeah, he's like, "Yes, ma'am."
-Oh, my... -He knows.
-Look at his face! -SISTINE: This guy loves it.
He knows!
SISTINE: Jose, are you single?
Not in this moment.
He said, "Not in the moment."
Not... [laughs]
SISTINE: Keeping your options open.
-SOPHIA: Touché, Jose. Touché. -Oh, my God.
SISTINE: I feel like I'm at a place where
I want to find something
that makes me really happy,
and I can't remember the last time I was happy,
and figured it out.
It was when I was riding horses with you.
Because that's one of my favorite things
that we used to do when I was growing up.
And we don't have a lot in common,
but something we do have in common
-are horses. -Horses, horses, horses.
Chart a different course.
You know what? I needed new haters.
Sure you don't want to take up gardening instead?
No.
To quote my friend Eddie Murphy,
"You can't trust anything
that can run and shit at the same time."
[chuffs]
I probably have fallen off a horse
a hundred times. I played
semi-professional polo.
I still have back injuries from 35, 40 years ago.
I love the animals, but
I love my daughters more, so I don't want her
to do something
that could have her permanently injured.
Let's just try it. Let's go to Oklahoma.
We don't have to commit to anything.
[sighs]
The sliding, the stopping, the spinning.
I love it. Honestly. I think about it all the time.
-But I got bad news for you. -What?
I don't think you're going to fit into your old saddle.
SISTINE: I honestly feel a bit rejected.
I was expecting,
"Yes, Sistine, we can get back into it.
This is our thing. We love doing this together."
Let's mosey on.
SISTINE: We made it to Oklahoma!
SOPHIA: Woo-hoo. Yee-haw.
I'm so excited!
You're surrounded by your babies.
My daughters and I decided we are going to go
move in and take over in Oklahoma City.
Sly had mentioned that he wants to spend some one-on-one time
with the girls.
What do you want to do with him here?
I don't know, I just want to hang out with him.
I can't believe the girls are here.
-Here we go. Come on. -Yeah, yeah.
JENNIFER: While we're here in OKC, the girls,
they want his love, they want his attention.
I want to do something with you.
Don't be jealous.
They're even competitive with each other.
Go on, give me a shot. Go on.
This is dumb. I'm not doing that.
Come on. Come on. Don't hurt... Ow.
Thumb in. Why do you got the nail out?
-What are you, a vampire? -I'm going to break my...
-I'm going to break my nails. -I know, but you got to curl in.
Do you see how long these are?
You girls have just gotten too civilized.
-What happened? -We lost touch.
[laughs]
Ooh, this is so much bigger than I thought.
-Hi. -Hi.
Welcome to the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.
Thank you. This is my world.
-I love this so much. -Oh, yeah.
He has been dreaming about this place.
SYLVESTER: You would figure a guy born
in Hell's Kitchen, New York,
is about as far from the Old West as a pizza.
But I'm a big fan of history, and that's why
I wanted to go to this place.
Man against nature. You're out there.
I can't fathom how tough these people were,
so I find that incredibly intriguing and heroic
and, dare I say it, romantic.
Didn't have a lot of deodorant,
but I'm sure you got used to that, too.
To come out here, you had to have such desire.
I mean, I could use some other terms, too,
-but they may not translate. -MAN: Right.
SYLVESTER: Well, wait a minute.
SOPHIA: Oh, you love this stuff.
MAN: There you go. Look at that.
-Is that a raven? -Now I'm pulling the raven.
-MAN: Look at that. -I was so impressed.
This guy changed my life. At five years old,
what's the first poem I taught you? Ready?
"Once upon a midnight dreary,
"while I pondered, weak and weary,
"over many a quaint and curious
"volume of forgotten lore.
"While I nodded, nearly napping,
"suddenly, there came a tapping,
"as of someone gently rapping,
"rapping at my chamber door.
"Ah, distinctly I remember, it was in the bleak December,
"With each separate dying ember
"wrought its ghost upon the floor...
-Nevermore." -[imitating raven]: Nevermore.
Nevermore.
-MAN: Impressive. -Thank you.
-SYLVESTER: Thank you. -I did that for our talent show.
MAN: That's nice.
[raven squawks]
SOPHIA: I feel like the whole museum has really good energy,
and it's made me really comfortable.
I think this might be the best time
to talk to him about my heart appointment that's coming up.
Oh, is your back killing you a little bit?
-No, not too bad. -I was gonna say. Whew, that was...
If I get my usual epidurals, I'm okay.
Actually, speaking of that, I have,
-uh, a checkup... -Do you?
...coming up. Yeah.
I hate those.
-Yeah, you think? -Yeah, it's tough.
I know. I think also the...
the overwhelming amount of stress I get on this
is PTSD from when I was 16
and my second operation.
-Man, that was devastating. -Yeah.
Jesus Christ, it was horrible.
And she was so brave.
I mean, we're falling apart and she'd put on the brave face,
and I know she's scared to death.
I don't think I ever told you this,
but I remember, the day I found out
that I had to have surgery,
Mom broke down, you broke down,
and everyone around me lost it.
That was the moment I realized
that sometimes the strongest people in your life
aren't always as strong as you think, you know?
And I felt like I had to hold it together,
so I don't even think you noticed.
I didn't cry or worry about my heart surgery...
SYLVESTER: Right.
...until the actual day when everyone left the room
and I was alone.
-Really. -And then I felt like I could break down
because I thought if I lose it,
that we would all fall.
Lose it.
When you had your first operation,
what, you were two months,
it was such a nightmare.
And the nurse is taking you,
she goes, "Okay, kiss your baby goodbye."
And I went, "Stop. Can you rephrase that?"
-I said, this can't be happening. -Right.
SYLVESTER: Every year when she has to go to the doctor,
it's this weight
on our hearts.
Is he going to say
what we heard before? "Oh, I'm sorry.
"There's-there's been a shift in her health
and she's going to require another surgery."
That would be...
"Devastating" is too gentle a word.
-When is your exam? -[sighs]
It's the end of next week.
-Um... Mm-hmm. -You're kidding.
-Mm-hmm. -Shit.
-I know. -Aw, baby girl,
-I love you, baby. -I love you.
♪ You can be♪
♪ So damn hard to please♪
SYLVESTER: Hey, Jennifer,
I brought you here
because I bought you your engagement ring.
-Oh, thank you, Sly. -SISTINE: Aw.
SOPHIA: That's sweet.
[laughter]
-Sophia? -What's up?
How'd you like that Western museum?
That was actually probably one of my favorite things I've done.
SISTINE: Why didn't I go?
I mean, Sophia hasn't ridden a horse since she was...
Remember, I was literally saying to you the other day
that I felt like Dad and I don't get enough time alone.
That's true. Are you still on this...
desire to ride?
Yeah.
I maybe wanted to use it as spending quality time with you
since that's something I did during my teenage years with you,
and that was our thing, we did it for years.
But I have never met a horse person
that has not had a catastrophic accident.
Not once.
I'm trying to be precautionary.
Having been through the trauma of Sophia,
I get very anxiety-ridden
over all the possibilities of what can happen.
Why can't we just try it and see if we like it
- and see if I enjoy it again? - All right, hold on.
-SYLVESTER: Deal. -JENNIFER: Most people think
Sly is this, like, big strong guy, thinking, like,
"I've got it, I'll take care of everything."
Quite the opposite.
He is so scared that something may happen,
especially because
we've been in Children's Hospital
more than most people have.
SYLVESTER: You're an amazing horse person,
but you will go down. It's not "if," it's "when."
JENNIFER: So his anxiety is always riding super high,
so I have to be the person that is
going to take it all down.
So we got to, like... Sometimes we got to
let things go, enjoy our life
and, like, literally hope for the best.
I just want to be around you and do something
that I know that we both love doing.
If you truly desire it, if it's in your blood,
if it becomes your priority...
I want you to do whatever your heart desires.
I'm behind it 100%.
-Really? -Yeah.
I'm all for it,
but I don't ride anymore.
-I can watch. -Okay.
SISTINE: I understand why he gets worried
about me getting back on a horse,
but you can't go through life
constantly fearing for your life,
fearing that the worst is going to happen,
or else you're never going to live.
Dad is the rodeo clown. Don't worry.
He'll be a part of it.
[Jennifer laughs]
What's better than horses?
-I don't know. Nothing. -Nothing.
SISTINE: I'm really excited because
I set up this appointment with
this fantastic trainer named Jessica.
-Nice to meet you, Jessica. -Nice to meet you.
Right, nice to meet you.
SISTINE: And she's going to reteach me some maneuvers
and see if I still
have the same love for it like I once did.
JESSICA: Hand forward. Excellent. Lift up your toe.
And drive and go.
-Really good. -SYLVESTER: Good.
-Excellent. -Natural.
You got it. Good. Good. Hand down.
- There you go. - Excellent.
There you go. Look at you.
JESSICA: [whistles] Really, really, really good.
SYLVESTER: I'll be damned.
-Good seat, right? -It's really nice.
I know. I mean...
JESSICA: Good.
There you go. Cluck, cluck, cluck.
Good.
[Jessica whistles]
You know, I feel bad that I wasn't
as supportive as I should have been
because nothing means more to me...
Wow.
...than the happiness
of my children, and knowing
that they're fulfilling their dream.
And I know that my kind of insecurity
affected Sistine,
but I'll try harder next time.
-You did so good. -I'm so proud of myself.
-You should be. You should be. -That was so much fun.
I thought it was fantastic. Really.
-Yeah? -Yeah.
-Aw. -I couldn't do it.
Oh, I know, you're, like, um...
I am 100% in this.
At first,
I was sort of using it as,
maybe, an excuse to hang out
with him again like we used to.
But riding, remembering how much I loved it,
I want to do this for me, so I'm going to
put on those chaps, and I'm going to get riding.
-♪ You see it all around you♪ -[indistinct P.A. announcements]
♪ Good loving gone bad♪
SISTINE: Whoo!
♪ And my mind♪
♪ Goes back to a girl♪
♪ I left...♪
When you think of horse, you think, oh, yeah, cowboy.
But these magnificent creatures
were tended to by 90% women.
♪ But don't let go...♪
SYLVESTER: Behind the scenes,
what makes the show go
are the women.
♪ You're gonna lose it♪
-Whoa. Whoo! -♪ You're gonna lose control♪
SYLVESTER: Boy, does that sound like life.
A woman wakes your butt up,
and having daughters and a wonderful wife,
incredibly independent of me, did everything on her own,
I appreciate it.
♪ So hold on loosely♪
SYLVESTER: But you're never going to know who you are
until you have a good woman.
♪ If you cling too tightly♪
♪ You're gonna lose control.♪
SOPHIA: Hi.
-WOMAN: Hey, how are you? -SOPHIA: Hi, nice to see you.
JENNIFER: We are back in California for Sophia's heart checkup.
It's very tense
'cause we just don't know what we're going to hear.
[faint thumping]
You can see the bright spot.
Isn't that where her patch is?
NURSE: Yes, right here.
JENNIFER: Right there. That's your patch.
NURSE: See how it's a little bit brighter?
SOPHIA: I am
so nervous
walking into that office,
remembering the moment when my doctor said
I had to have another operation,
came flooding back, so I am
freaking out.
This is the echocardiogram,
and this was, uh, your pictures from today,
and here you can see four chambers of your heart.
Two upper, two lower chambers.
You're great. Your heart's great.
You've got nothing wrong.
-Yay! -Yay!
[sighs]
-Thank God. -FERRY: So you don't need me.
I am going to be okay for another year.
It's...
I mean, health is everything,
and that's all that you can want in life,
and as you can see, I'm relieved.
-Hi, Sly. -Hi, Dad.
So we just finished with, uh, Dr. Ferry.
SOPHIA: Everything is totally perfect.
Yeah.
SOPHIA: I know.
I love you, Dad.
-Bye. -Bye, angel.
If you're a parent, and your kid is healthy,
there's no greater feeling.
We get to live again.
Now we just have to set her up with somebody, Dr. Ferry.
-A resident or fellow, a doctor? -Yeah.
SISTINE: Very sexy.
JENNIFER: I want to be a grandmother more than
-anything in the whole world. -FERRY: Oh, my gosh.
SISTINE: Oh, I know. She said, "Start today."
So happy with these beautiful girls that you've raised
to be entrepreneurial.
SOPHIA: I feel like I'm held to a standard
and so I have a huge fear of failing.
I want this book to work, but I already know
that people are probably gonna say it's shitty.
SISTINE: I've been working on this script since 2018.
JENNIFER: Don't you have a meeting with MGM?
Wait, why haven't you told me any of this?
-I'm actually pissed. -Why are you getting so upset?
How'd I get on the Housewives of Beverly Hills?
♪ Come on now, roll with the crazy♪
♪ Dance like 1980♪
♪ Ooh, ooh♪
♪ Roll with the crazy♪
♪ Dance like 1980♪
♪ ♪
♪ Roll with me, baby♪
♪ You ain't gonna save me♪
♪ Ooh, ooh.♪
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