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[woman on TV] Playboy
is looking for a pinup girl.
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[Crystal Kahl] If you think of
who is going to be in layboy,
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well, Lesia. Perfect.
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[Kimbyrleigha Morse]
Lesia Kahl went
from an unknown waitress
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to a Playboy ensation
overnight.
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But posing nude for Playboy
can put a target on your back.
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[Jason Shanks]
Lesia's boyfriend
had a surprise waiting,
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but she never showed up.
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[Sgt. JJ Coughlin] As soon as
I walked in the room,
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I knew it was a double murder.
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How could someone look at her
and do this?
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Something's not
adding up here at all.
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What a hot [bleep] mess.
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[screaming]
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[JJ] In 1985,
I was a police officer
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assigned to
the Homicide Division
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of the Dallas
Police Department.
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I had to be at work
at 7:00 a.m.,
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so I was in bed.
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But we had a pager.
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And, you know,
when that pager went off,
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you knew that your sleep
was over for the night
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because you were going
on an adventure.
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It was a little after midnight
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when we got
called to the scene
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to investigate a murder.
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[Jason]
Two murder victims in a home
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in that upscale,
affluent neighborhood,
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yeah, that was--
that's very out of place.
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In my career, I was the lead
detective on 196 murders.
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I found them
in every kind of condition.
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As soon as we
looked around the house,
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we find two people,
a man and a woman,
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both bloodied and beat
and obviously deceased.
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There's blood everywhere.
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There wasn't the, as I call,
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the odor of death
on the scene,
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so we knew that
it had just happened.
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But we did determine
that the female
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that was found in that house
was a layboy model.
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Lesia Kahl.
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[Jason] Lesia had just
appeared in the layboy issue
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that featured Texas girls.
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[Holly Madison]
Playboy was always looking
for the type of girl
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from a small town who could
just jump off of the page.
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They wanted somebody who was
beautiful, fresh-faced,
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that would make
the reader feel like
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they could possibly
meet this girl.
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So layboy would scout places
like universities,
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upscale bars,
things like that,
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to find women that might
not hear about it otherwise.
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So the whole process for
the Girls of Texas
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started in
the early part of 1984.
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Playboy ent looking
for new talent.
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Someone like Lesia Kahl.
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[Crystal] Lesia was beautiful.
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Lesia and I were very close.
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We were a big family,
five children.
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Lesia was the oldest.
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I was number two.
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With my dad being
in the Air Force,
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we moved a lot.
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I remember I was
going into the eighth grade
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and she was
going into the ninth grade.
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And one of these girls said,
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"Here comes your sister,
the bitch."
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And she said, "Nobody talks
to my sister that way."
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That was so cool.
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She was a badass.
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After high school,
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our parents got orders
to go to Germany.
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Lesia and I didn't want to go.
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That's when
I moved out to Dallas.
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I just wanted Lesia
to come with me.
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And she did.
She arrived early '83.
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This was the first time that
we were both in a city-city.
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We were in the nightlife.
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[Christina Hughes Babb]
The vibe in Dallas in the '80s
was very sexually charged.
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It was always crazy
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with people being out
until the sun came up.
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Pretty much everybody
in the country
was excited about Texas girls.
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The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders
were just starting out,
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and I think that was part of
the kind of hype
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that was going on.
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And, of course, Dallas as one
of the most popular shows.
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[Holly] Dallas was
a huge show in the '80s.
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The sets were like so
over-the-top,
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like fantasy upscale.
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The hair was big,
there was a lot of makeup,
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so it was very much
high glamor in the '80s.
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[Sunny Abercrombie]
Confetti was the nightclub.
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There would be a queue
around the building
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every night to get in.
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So Lesia gets a job
as a waitress there.
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[Sunny] I was a coworker and
a really good friend of Lesia,
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and we did a lot
of fun things together,
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had some crazy nights
at that nightclub.
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It was just a really,
really fun place
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to be girls
in the skimpy outfits.
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You would go on the stage
and you would perform.
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So you've got to be
kind of an outgoing person.
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And she just
exuded something special.
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And the guys loved her.
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[Crystal]
Around spring of 1984,
Lesia's been here a year,
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she's working at Confetti's,
and there's an ad that says,
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"Playboy agazine
is coming to Texas
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and is looking
for some models."
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[woman on TV] Playboy
is looking for a pinup girl.
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[Holly] So around that time,
Playboy increased
their cross-country searches
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to open up opportunities
for women from smaller cities
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to go be met in person
and submit themselves.
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But also it was great
publicity for the brand.
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Playboy s huge. It is a dream
for so many women.
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If you will,
come right over here.
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I'm gonna show you
how to pose.
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You wanna tilt your head.
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[David] I was with layboy
as a photographer
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from the late '70s
up through 2003 or 2004.
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So around 23, 24 years.
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I want you to drop your
chin down just a touch.
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Right there. Hold it.
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[Holly]
I never met David personally,
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but I've seen
his name everywhere.
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He was a regular at Playboy.
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He shot so many things.
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Um, lean into this way
a little bit.
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[David]
When I came on board,
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another photographer
had been going out
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to the various
big college conferences,
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doing these
college girl pictorials,
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and it became very popular.
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So that's where they started
thinking in terms of
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using either identities
or jobs
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as a premise
for the pictorials themselves.
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And I was sent
to several cities.
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And we'd set up camp
in a really nice hotel,
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and then I would see girls.
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And it was just an amazing way
to meet these potential models
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that ended up being either
pictorial girls or a playmate.
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My very first experience
trying out for Playboy
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was when I was in college
in Portland, Oregon.
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Playboy was searching
for a special playmate
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for the year 2000 issue.
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I called ahead and found out,
you know,
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I needed to bring a bikini
and go down there.
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So that's what I did.
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And I didn't get into
the magazine that way.
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I didn't appear
in the magazine
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until I had
already been living
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at the Playboy Mansion
for several years,
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and we started doing
a reality show.
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But back in the '80s,
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people either had
to mail their photos in
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or they had to show up
for a casting.
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[David] They sent me out
to do the Girls of Texas
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in the early part of 1984.
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[Crystal] If you think of
who is going to be in layboy,
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someone sophisticated,
classy, grace.
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Well, Lesia. Perfect.
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This is perfect.
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There's an advertisement
for a big casting
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at the DoubleTree Hotel.
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And I thought, "I'm going
to the DoubleTree Hotel
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to pick up pamphlets
and flyers for Lesia."
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And I was going to take them
to her and go,
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"You have got to do this."
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I'm a loan processor.
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It was very important to me
to always look professional.
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So I walk in,
the other women in there
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were not dressed like me
at all.
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I'm in this dress,
buttoned up to here.
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This lady comes to me
and she says,
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"Can you come back here,
please?"
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And then we go
into one of the suites.
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She looks me up and down.
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And then comes back
with two swimsuits
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and asked me to put one on.
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When Crystal came in
to get the information
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for her sister, Lesia,
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I thought
she was very attractive,
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and I immediately knew
that I could photograph her.
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[Crystal] The photographer
that was in there, he goes,
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"I just want to take a couple
of Polaroids of you."
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I've never done anything
like that before.
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But, Playboy,
their reputation was great.
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And so I did it.
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Crystal kept talking
about her sister.
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And I go, "Look, I'm sure
your sister is wonderful.
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I can't wait to meet her."
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And I said,
"Come back with your sister
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I can do an interview
with both of you."
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I thought it would be
really cool
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to have sisters
in the pictorial.
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I needed to get to Lesia fast
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because she'd
be working tomorrow.
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She needs
to get the night off.
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I go to see her and go,
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"Lesia, I got to tell you
about this."
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And she was
definitely interested.
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[David] When Lesia
walked into the room,
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she had a great look.
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Dark hair, smoky eyes.
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Very sexy.
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And I'm just like,
"Okay, this girl is hot."
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And so I called
both Lesia and Crystal.
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[Holly] It was rare for
sisters to pose for layboy.
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It was definitely
appealing to Playboy
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to publish anything
kind of unexpected.
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[Crystal] They had us
both come in together
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just to share the plan,
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to prepare for our shoots.
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We had no idea
what was about to happen.
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Crystal and Lesia were exactly
the type of women
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that Playboy iked.
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They were fresh-faced,
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they had the
girl-next-door look,
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they had voluptuous figures.
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They were really
the whole package.
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[David] Because they each had
such a strong look,
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I didn't want to lessen the
strength of their photograph
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by putting them together
as a sister act.
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So I photographed
them separately.
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They want to send me
to the mountains.
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[David] When we did
the shot of Crystal,
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she's up in the rocks,
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and she's got on kind of
this army green outfit,
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kind of thing.
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You've got the vista
in the background,
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and all this kind of stuff.
It's really cool.
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The difference in their looks
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made it
a little more intriguing,
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as well as the fact
that they're both attractive
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in different ways.
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Lesia, they knew exactly
where they wanted her.
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Southfork Ranch,
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where allas was filmed.
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The show Dallas
was so huge in the '80s.
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So he says
photos were actually shot
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at the ranch
where they filmed allas.
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So they were very much
with the Texas theme.
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[David]
When I got to the location
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and I saw
this old-style bathtub...
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And Lesia had
this insanely nice body.
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Gorgeous boobs,
gorgeous legs, everything.
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And so I told her, I said,
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"You know what? I think I just
want to photograph you nude
in the tub."
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And she's like, "Yeah!"
She was like all for it.
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So off she goes into the tub,
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and I just went, "Oh, my gosh,
this thing looks great."
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I thought, "Wow, this girl's
got playmate potential."
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I mean,
she was born to be there.
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It's end of June,
maybe early July of 1984.
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And the magazine
comes out early January 1985.
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Lesia was probably
already picturing in her head
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this was a huge
opportunity to her.
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Huge.
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She was going to be someone.
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This is an exciting time.
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The magazine
had not come out yet,
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but after the layboy shoot,
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Lesia could not
contain her excitement.
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And she was telling
everyone, "You know what?
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I'm going to be in Playboy."
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[Sunny] When she told us about
that, I'm not the only one
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that thought Lesia
will be a hit in Playboy.
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[David] In a way, she was
a little bit like a brunette
Dorothy Stratten,
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one of those ladies
that had this kind of spark
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that everybody
saw and just went, "Wow!"
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[Crystal]
Lesia has a lot of admirers,
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but she didn't have
any boyfriends.
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And then she met this guy
Joey D'Amato.
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[Sunny] Joey was actually
a bartender at Confetti.
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Everybody got along with Joey.
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Joey got along
with everyone else.
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He was a nice-looking guy,
pretty normal.
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And I think that was part of,
probably,
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Lesia's appeal with him.
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He was just this guy
who thought she was beautiful
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but was kind and caring,
and not...
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after something.
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[Crystal] Joey was as close
as Lesia could come
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to being in a relationship.
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However,
she's going to be in layboy.
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She's not going to commit
to anything completely.
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[Holly] Lesia's photo
could have definitely
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led to more opportunities
for her within layboy,
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especially if she had
the standout photo
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of that pictorial.
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[Kimbyrleigha]
Lesia has a fire in her now.
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She wants to go
as far as she can
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in this newfound career.
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And now she can actually
do something about it.
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[Christina]
So Joey is spending
all this time at Confetti's.
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He is with Lesia,
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but that was also
when he strikes up
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a friendship
with Koby Sandovsky.
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[Kimbyrleigha]
Koby is known around town.
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He is the local go-to
for your party favors,
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cocaine.
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It was in the mid-'80s and
there was a lot of cocaine.
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There was a lot of
cocaine at the time.
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[Sunny] But it wasn't
one of these scenes
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where people were just
blatantly doing drugs,
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you know,
on the bar or whatever.
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It was more of kind of
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a behind the scenes
kind of thing.
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[Kimbyrleigha] Lesia and Joey,
they liked to have fun.
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They liked to party.
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So it doesn't faze Lesia that
he's hanging out with Koby.
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[Crystal] He was good to her.
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They were seeing each other
pretty regularly.
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And then
the magazine comes out.
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January 8, 1985,
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the Playboy agazine spread
hits the newsstands.
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[woman] There you go.
Appreciate it, everyone.
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[Kimbyrleigha] And usually
it is the cover girl
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that gets all the attention.
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But, this time, it was Lesia.
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And everyone is talking about
the girl in the red tub.
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[Holly]
Lesia's photo is really sexy.
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She's in this
bright red bathtub
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in a bubble bath.
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She's very fit.
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She's got the tan lines,
perfect '80s makeup.
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Lesia definitely
had the qualities
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Playboy as looking for.
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Playboy eported that they
nearly doubled their sales
that month.
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[Kimbyrleigha] Lesia Kahl went
from an unknown waitress
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to a Playboy odel
sensation overnight.
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[David] It does make them
a celebrity of sorts.
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She is the girl
in the red tub.
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What a title.
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And I'm sure she probably
relished in it, too.
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I mean, knowing her,
she probably loved that.
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[Crystal] I'm in the magazine,
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but I'm moving away
from the attention,
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everything going on.
338
00:18:13,367 --> 00:18:16,000
But Lesia's
liking this attention.
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She's doing well in it.
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She's seeing Joey.
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She's truly living
her best life.
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[Holly]
There's so many different ways
a boyfriend or husband
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could react to
their significant other
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posing for Playboy.
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Some people love it,
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and they're super-excited
about it.
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00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:39,634
For Joey, he's feeling
a lot of pressure.
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00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:47,266
I am sure Joey feels like he
needs to make a grand gesture
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in order to stay the boyfriend
of his beautiful girlfriend.
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[Crystal] Lesia's birthday
is in February.
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I was like, "That's my girl.
I want to take care of her.
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We're gonna have a party."
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[Kimbyrleigha]
Joey wants to go all out,
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surprise her, and make it
a big night to remember.
355
00:19:11,166 --> 00:19:14,467
[Crystal] Her birthday was
Tuesday, February 26.
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Her big party was Wednesday
night, February 27th,
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and I couldn't go.
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But it was
very important to him
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to give this to her.
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00:19:24,867 --> 00:19:27,066
[Kimbyrleigha] While Lesia is
getting a bunch of attention
361
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for her photo shoot
in Playboy,
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00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,767
Crystal actually got married.
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00:19:32,767 --> 00:19:35,734
She's laying low
while Lesia's living it up.
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00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:41,066
Friends are waiting
for Lesia to arrive
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00:19:41,066 --> 00:19:43,500
and they're waiting
and waiting,
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00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,100
and she's still not there.
367
00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:47,800
[Sunny] People were concerned
368
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,900
because she
was pretty punctual.
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People thought maybe
they got in an accident
370
00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:55,000
or that maybe they had
to stop and run an errand,
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00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,500
maybe go pick up
some more booze.
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00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:00,100
The wait was pretty tense
and pretty serious.
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And they never showed up.
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[Kimbyrleigha]
It's late at night,
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00:20:14,867 --> 00:20:16,000
and John Hudgens
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00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,867
goes to his friend
Jeffrey Licker's house.
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00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:20,166
[knocking at door]
378
00:20:20,667 --> 00:20:21,567
He's knocking on the door.
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00:20:21,567 --> 00:20:22,767
He's getting no answer.
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00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:25,967
He decides to let himself in.
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00:20:27,166 --> 00:20:29,300
[Jason]
He looks around the house
382
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,300
when he comes across
a gruesome discovery.
383
00:20:33,467 --> 00:20:36,100
He found two bodies
in an upstairs bedroom.
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00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:44,200
So he went downstairs
and called 911.
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00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:50,300
At 1:45 a.m., investigators
arrive at the house
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00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:51,367
on Blackbird Lane.
387
00:20:53,467 --> 00:20:56,266
John Hudgens
directs them upstairs.
388
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,066
As soon as I walked
in the room
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00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:04,000
and saw what I saw,
390
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,700
I knew it wasn't like
a murder-suicide.
391
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,000
I knew it was a double murder.
392
00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:21,166
[Kimbyrleigha]
The two victims had blunt
force trauma to their heads.
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00:21:22,266 --> 00:21:25,000
Their heads are covered
with plastic bags.
394
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,266
There's blood everywhere.
This is a violent scene.
395
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,000
One of the first questions
that investigators always have
396
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,200
is "Who are these people?
397
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,600
And what were they
doing here?"
398
00:21:38,967 --> 00:21:41,200
The 911 caller
says that he's friends
399
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,800
with the homeowner,
Jeffrey Licker.
400
00:21:43,867 --> 00:21:46,767
And he determined
by looking at the body
401
00:21:46,767 --> 00:21:48,867
that it was absolutely not
Jeffrey Licker.
402
00:21:51,266 --> 00:21:53,166
[JJ] He didn't know
who those people were,
403
00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:55,266
and he had been in that house
a lot of times
404
00:21:55,266 --> 00:21:57,667
and knew who's
supposed to be there
405
00:21:57,667 --> 00:21:59,300
and it's not them.
406
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:05,300
[Jason] Police investigators
did find identification
on the male victim.
407
00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,767
[JJ] We were able to identify
him as Koby Sandovsky
408
00:22:09,767 --> 00:22:12,467
through his driver's license.
409
00:22:12,467 --> 00:22:15,667
We had an
Israeli identification card.
410
00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:18,266
But beyond that, there
wasn't a lot of information
411
00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:19,400
about him.
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00:22:20,767 --> 00:22:22,266
[Jason] Most ladies,
when they go out,
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00:22:22,266 --> 00:22:24,500
they carry a purse with them.
414
00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,367
[Christina]
The police find a wallet,
415
00:22:26,367 --> 00:22:29,400
and that wallet
belongs to Lesia Kahl.
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00:22:37,567 --> 00:22:39,266
[Crystal]
It was Thursday night,
417
00:22:39,867 --> 00:22:41,066
and the phone rings.
418
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,200
My husband answers it
and it was a police officer.
419
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,767
And I knew
before he even told me.
420
00:22:50,767 --> 00:22:52,400
I could feel it.
I could see it.
421
00:22:54,867 --> 00:22:58,266
While he's talking, I started
hearing this loud sound.
422
00:23:00,066 --> 00:23:03,767
It sounded like somebody
screaming like a child.
423
00:23:05,066 --> 00:23:06,767
And then I realized it was me.
424
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,800
And I was just looking at him,
saying...
425
00:23:12,266 --> 00:23:15,367
"No, no, it couldn't be."
426
00:23:16,867 --> 00:23:17,800
Lesia couldn't be gone.
427
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,500
There's no way
she could be gone.
428
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:23,100
Who could have done this?
429
00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:29,967
You never know how hard
a task will be
430
00:23:29,967 --> 00:23:31,400
until you start trying.
431
00:23:33,166 --> 00:23:35,500
At the scene,
we understand that
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00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,000
the homeowner
is Jeff Licker.
433
00:23:39,667 --> 00:23:42,900
Since one of the victims
is not the homeowner,
434
00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:43,967
where is he at?
435
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,667
Mr. Licker was an attorney.
436
00:23:46,667 --> 00:23:48,400
He was a prominent
tax attorney, uh,
437
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,667
in Dallas
back at the time.
438
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,767
[Christina]
Jeffrey Licker is 29 years old
439
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:58,567
and he is known to
let his friends
440
00:23:58,567 --> 00:24:01,367
kind of come and go
from his house
441
00:24:01,367 --> 00:24:02,266
as needed.
442
00:24:02,266 --> 00:24:04,467
They know how to get in
and out,
443
00:24:04,467 --> 00:24:07,634
and he frequently has guests.
444
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:13,266
[Kimbyrleigha]
Police found a lot of cocaine,
445
00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:16,667
so they knew this was a place
that people go to have fun,
446
00:24:16,667 --> 00:24:18,467
do coke, hang out.
447
00:24:18,467 --> 00:24:19,700
It was a party house.
448
00:24:21,166 --> 00:24:22,133
[Jason] At that point,
449
00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:24,266
any kind of narrative
could be possible.
450
00:24:24,266 --> 00:24:25,767
You know,
is he on the run?
451
00:24:25,767 --> 00:24:27,467
Is he not-- is he unaware?
452
00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:28,667
Was he a murder victim
himself?
453
00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:29,900
There's just so much
they don't know
454
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:31,066
about Licker at this point.
455
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,867
But with no definite way
of getting a hold of him,
456
00:24:34,867 --> 00:24:38,567
police shift their focus
to any additional information
457
00:24:38,567 --> 00:24:40,166
that they can find there
at the scene.
458
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,400
There was a car
out front of the house
459
00:24:45,867 --> 00:24:48,233
registered to Koby Sandovsky.
460
00:24:50,667 --> 00:24:53,467
And they also found
a phone in the car.
461
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,800
In the '80s,
we didn't have cell phones,
462
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,300
and a select few
had car phones.
463
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:08,266
Usually those were wealthier
people or drug dealers.
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00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,667
[Jason] So officers decide,
465
00:25:11,667 --> 00:25:13,300
Well, let's call
this last called number.
466
00:25:14,567 --> 00:25:16,266
And so they dial the phone
467
00:25:16,266 --> 00:25:19,400
and Lesia's boyfriend,
Joey D'Amato, answers it.
468
00:25:21,867 --> 00:25:23,066
[Kimbyrleigha]
So police ask him,
469
00:25:23,066 --> 00:25:25,767
"Who called you
from this number and when?"
470
00:25:25,767 --> 00:25:27,000
And Joey tells them,
471
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,734
"My girlfriend, Lesia,
called me around 9:30 p.m."
472
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:37,767
[Christina] Joey has been
waiting up all night
473
00:25:37,767 --> 00:25:42,266
just wondering what the heck
has happened to Lesia.
474
00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:47,667
When Lesia just didn't show up
for the birthday party,
475
00:25:47,667 --> 00:25:50,500
there was time for probably
a million things
476
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,667
to go through Joey's head.
477
00:25:52,667 --> 00:25:55,266
Part of him was thinking
that something bad
478
00:25:55,266 --> 00:25:56,467
had happened to her.
479
00:25:58,467 --> 00:26:01,300
[JJ] We tell him that
we've found a couple of people
480
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:03,467
that have been killed,
481
00:26:03,467 --> 00:26:05,300
and we're doing
an investigation.
482
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,266
He confirmed to us that
when he talked to Lesia,
483
00:26:09,266 --> 00:26:11,500
she said she was waiting
on Koby.
484
00:26:13,667 --> 00:26:15,400
[Jason] Joey said that
he was waiting on her
485
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,867
to get to this surprise party,
but she never showed up.
486
00:26:18,867 --> 00:26:20,967
And that Koby was
giving her a ride.
487
00:26:22,667 --> 00:26:24,266
So police are asking Joey,
488
00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:26,867
"What is her relationship
to Koby?"
489
00:26:26,867 --> 00:26:29,500
Joey explains that
Koby hangs out at Confetti's,
490
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:30,667
where Lesia worked.
491
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:36,467
And apparently he was
a low-level drug dealer,
492
00:26:36,467 --> 00:26:37,867
uh, in the Dallas area.
493
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,700
Lesia was a cocktail waitress,
494
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,667
and she had just appeared
in layboy.
495
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:47,300
[Holly]
Posing nude for layboy
496
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,767
can put a target on your back,
497
00:26:49,767 --> 00:26:51,266
and that can get
very dangerous.
498
00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:00,200
[Holly] I first heard
about Lesia's story
499
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,367
when someone reached out to me
in my social media comments.
500
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,000
I was fascinated by it.
501
00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:09,367
She was young, beautiful.
502
00:27:09,367 --> 00:27:11,667
Her life was about to get
so exciting.
503
00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:17,567
[Crystal]
When the magazine came out,
it never crossed my mind
504
00:27:17,567 --> 00:27:21,667
that our safety could be
at risk
505
00:27:21,667 --> 00:27:25,600
with this being in public
like we now were.
506
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,800
It never even occurred to me.
507
00:27:29,266 --> 00:27:30,467
[David] I was devastated.
508
00:27:30,467 --> 00:27:32,700
I never thought of it
as someone targeting her.
509
00:27:33,767 --> 00:27:36,867
I thought, "Oh, my God,
how could this happen?"
510
00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:40,000
[Crystal] When something
like that happens,
511
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
your mind goes everywhere,
512
00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:46,367
and Joey was
the closest person I knew
513
00:27:46,367 --> 00:27:48,266
that she was with.
514
00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:56,000
[Jason] The police invite Joey
to come down to the station
515
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,367
and, uh, talk about
the situation there.
516
00:27:58,367 --> 00:28:01,300
They describe him
as being very cooperative.
517
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:03,266
He's answering
all their questions.
518
00:28:04,166 --> 00:28:05,433
Apparently he was-- uh,
519
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:08,266
he was pretty heartbroke over
the death of his girlfriend.
520
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,700
So he was--
he was very cooperative
521
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,000
with law enforcement
at that point.
522
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,533
Joey was her number one.
523
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,266
But I had never
heard the name Koby.
524
00:28:23,066 --> 00:28:25,500
And Joey has sent him
525
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:29,000
to go pick up Lesia
for her party.
526
00:28:30,166 --> 00:28:31,467
Where did that come from?
527
00:28:32,467 --> 00:28:36,166
Why didn't Joey go get her
and then walk in with her?
528
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,200
Isn't that usually
how a surprise party works?
529
00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:42,867
[Sunny]
Koby was like a shadow person
530
00:28:42,867 --> 00:28:46,500
because I saw him
on a few rare occasions.
531
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,867
I never spoke a word to him.
532
00:28:48,767 --> 00:28:50,400
And it was very,
very shocking
533
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,433
that Koby was with her
that night.
534
00:28:54,867 --> 00:28:56,900
[Jason] At the police station,
Joey said,
535
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:59,367
"Well, I was throwing
a surprise party for her,
536
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,467
but I didn't
have a ride for Lesia.
537
00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:04,400
So I called my friend Koby
and said,
538
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,967
'Hey, could you
give her a ride?'
539
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,266
Koby said,
'Sure, of course I can.
540
00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:11,000
But I do need to make
a stop first.'"
541
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,667
And Joey admits that Koby
is a low-level drug dealer.
542
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,800
So now police are asking Joey,
543
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,266
"Why is it
that you chose to have him
544
00:29:22,266 --> 00:29:24,467
give your girlfriend
a ride somewhere?
545
00:29:24,467 --> 00:29:26,667
Why did you put her safety
in his hands?"
546
00:29:32,567 --> 00:29:33,800
[Kimbyrleigha]
Police are interested to know
547
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,367
what their relationship was
like at this point.
548
00:29:37,367 --> 00:29:38,667
And Joey admits,
549
00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:41,867
"Yes, Lesia's been getting
a lot of attention lately.
550
00:29:41,867 --> 00:29:45,166
I mean, she's got a layboy
spread out on newsstands."
551
00:29:45,166 --> 00:29:48,100
And, yeah, they've
had some disagreements,
552
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,467
and he's been
a little insecure.
553
00:29:51,467 --> 00:29:53,567
But Joey is Lesia's boyfriend.
554
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:56,066
He was planning the party.
555
00:29:56,066 --> 00:29:58,367
He couldn't run around
and bring Lesia there.
556
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:00,700
Koby is one of his friends.
557
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:02,967
They party together,
they hang out together.
558
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,667
It just made sense to him.
559
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,767
[JJ] I'm not really
suspicious of anyone
560
00:30:11,767 --> 00:30:14,567
until I can start
putting things together.
561
00:30:16,467 --> 00:30:19,400
Joey was cooperative
as to what he knew
562
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,867
and what was going on
and the information he had.
563
00:30:23,066 --> 00:30:26,066
[Sunny] There was a lot of
talk about how odd it was
564
00:30:26,066 --> 00:30:29,700
that Koby was the one
who gave her the ride.
565
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,066
I think Joey probably
regretted that
566
00:30:32,066 --> 00:30:33,800
and probably
still regrets that.
567
00:30:36,266 --> 00:30:38,600
As you confirm things,
you realize,
568
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,800
okay, Joey is probably,
you know, being honest.
569
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,767
But from talking to
the 911 caller,
570
00:30:46,767 --> 00:30:48,567
we learned that the homeowner,
571
00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:51,166
Jeff Licker's not probably,
you know,
572
00:30:51,166 --> 00:30:52,667
a goody two-shoes.
573
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,367
Now the focus was definitely
on Jeff Licker.
574
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,100
Talk to him.
575
00:31:00,767 --> 00:31:03,000
Two people ended up dead
in your house.
576
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,667
Why are they there
and you're not there?
577
00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:10,100
[Kimbyrleigha]
So investigators start
reaching out to more people
578
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:11,367
who knew Jeffrey Licker.
579
00:31:12,367 --> 00:31:14,467
And they find out that Koby
580
00:31:14,467 --> 00:31:17,066
is an associate
of Jeffrey Licker.
581
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Jeffrey Licker
was very addicted to cocaine.
582
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000
And Koby was his drug dealer.
583
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,100
But police are not able
to locate him yet.
584
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,467
[Jason]
And then at about 1:30 p.m.,
585
00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:40,567
a man walks into
the Dallas police station
586
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:43,767
and says,
"Hey, I have some information
587
00:31:43,767 --> 00:31:45,800
on your homicide from
last night."
588
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:51,166
And he introduces himself
as 29-year-old Jeffrey Licker.
589
00:31:55,567 --> 00:31:57,467
[JJ] He's trying to figure out
what's going on
590
00:31:57,467 --> 00:32:00,100
with the double homicide
last night,
591
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,266
and he wants
to talk to somebody.
592
00:32:04,166 --> 00:32:05,266
[Jason]
Licker proceeds to tell them
593
00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:07,667
that he had been out
all night drinking
594
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:10,867
and that he had
recently heard about
595
00:32:10,867 --> 00:32:12,867
the double homicide
on the radio.
596
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,867
And decided, "I better go
to the police station
597
00:32:16,867 --> 00:32:18,767
and talk to them
and find out what's going on
598
00:32:18,767 --> 00:32:20,767
and see if there's any help
I can give them."
599
00:32:22,667 --> 00:32:25,000
[JJ] I think Jeff came
to the police station
600
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,600
to distance himself from
any activity
601
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,266
and say he wasn't involved.
602
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:33,867
So Jeff starts
telling us some things
603
00:32:33,867 --> 00:32:35,867
that we know aren't right,
604
00:32:35,867 --> 00:32:38,100
like he didn't know who
the people were in the house.
605
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:42,066
And we confront him with that.
606
00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:45,867
And then Jeff started
to provide more information
607
00:32:45,867 --> 00:32:46,867
that was truthful.
608
00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:51,800
Licker finally admits
he knows Sandovsky.
609
00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:57,667
While they're
interviewing Licker,
610
00:32:57,667 --> 00:33:00,367
he gives the police
a full written statement.
611
00:33:01,967 --> 00:33:05,066
As far as I know,
no one else has ever gotten
612
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:07,367
a voluntary statement
from a lawyer.
613
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,400
[Jason] You know,
granted he's a tax attorney,
614
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600
he's not a criminal attorney.
615
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,467
But you would think that
attorney 101 is, you know,
616
00:33:17,467 --> 00:33:20,767
you don't talk to the police
without representation.
617
00:33:20,767 --> 00:33:22,066
Uh, so that's
kind of shocking.
618
00:33:23,567 --> 00:33:28,767
[JJ] According to Jeff, Koby
had stolen a safe from him
619
00:33:28,767 --> 00:33:30,266
with money and drugs in it,
620
00:33:30,266 --> 00:33:35,066
and Jeff wanted to collect
what was owed from that theft.
621
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,567
[Jason]
He had Sandovsky come over
622
00:33:40,567 --> 00:33:44,567
under the ruse of he was going
to buy some more drugs.
623
00:33:44,567 --> 00:33:48,000
And when Sandovsky got there,
he had a surprise waiting.
624
00:33:51,867 --> 00:33:54,567
He had hired two individuals,
625
00:33:54,567 --> 00:33:58,166
to collect the debt
from Sandovsky
626
00:33:58,166 --> 00:34:00,700
from Sandovsky
previously stealing his safe.
627
00:34:02,166 --> 00:34:05,266
[JJ] So Jeff's story was
that he hired them,
628
00:34:05,266 --> 00:34:07,600
but he told the two men that,
you know,
629
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,800
he did not want Koby injured
in any way.
630
00:34:12,166 --> 00:34:14,767
According to Licker,
he also sees Lesia come in.
631
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:17,667
[Kimbyrleigha]
He doesn't know Lesia,
632
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:20,734
but he does recognize her
from the Playboy agazine.
633
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:24,667
Then Jeffrey
tells investigators
634
00:34:24,667 --> 00:34:26,567
he left his house
at 10:00 p.m.
635
00:34:26,567 --> 00:34:27,600
and he went out drinking.
636
00:34:29,367 --> 00:34:30,300
So they want to know,
637
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,500
"What did you see?
What did you do?
638
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:33,967
What were you doing?"
639
00:34:33,967 --> 00:34:36,000
And why hasn't he said
anything about it?
640
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:41,300
[JJ] The statement itself
is not everything,
641
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:45,300
but it implicates him
in hiring the actors
642
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:48,433
that caused the death of
Koby and Lesia.
643
00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:53,600
[Kimbyrleigha]
Police have this man
who's coming in here
644
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,567
saying that he admittedly
had two men hired,
645
00:34:58,567 --> 00:35:00,867
essentially hit men,
even though he says,
646
00:35:00,867 --> 00:35:02,900
"Oh, they weren't supposed
to harm Koby,"
647
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:05,066
and he doesn't think
that anything bad's happening.
648
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Something's not
adding up here at all.
649
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,166
[Crystal] As we were learning
and finding out the facts
650
00:35:12,166 --> 00:35:13,667
of what happened,
651
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,467
what a hot [bleep] mess.
652
00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:21,767
[screaming]
653
00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:28,867
[Crystal]
I had to call my parents.
654
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,400
And my mom was already crying.
655
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,867
She knew.
656
00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:36,667
She just-- she just knew
657
00:35:36,667 --> 00:35:39,500
that something had
happened to one of us
658
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:42,567
and she-- and she knew
instinctively it was Lesia.
659
00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:44,767
They had to get here.
660
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:50,600
Playboy omehow
had reached out to me,
661
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,367
and they wanted to give
something to my parents.
662
00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:56,100
And I remember they got
a $500 gift certificate
663
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:58,767
just to take care of the food
while they were here.
664
00:35:58,767 --> 00:36:00,500
The rest
I almost don't remember.
665
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,000
I was really messed up.
666
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,266
[Kimbyrleigha]
In his statement,
667
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:09,367
Jeffrey Licker
lets police know
668
00:36:09,367 --> 00:36:11,600
that the two men hired
669
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,100
are Raymond Hackman
and Joel Arnold.
670
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,667
[Christina] Police track down
two freight workers,
671
00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:21,066
Raymond Hackman
and Joel Arnold.
672
00:36:22,266 --> 00:36:26,266
Once Hackman
and Arnold are brought in,
673
00:36:26,266 --> 00:36:28,300
they know they're in trouble.
674
00:36:29,567 --> 00:36:32,567
[Kimbyrleigha] Raymond Hackman
was not talking,
675
00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:35,400
but Joel Arnold gives
a written statement.
676
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800
And it's a lot different
from the one police got
677
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,367
from Jeffrey Licker.
678
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,367
In his statement, Joel Arnold
says that they were hired
679
00:36:44,367 --> 00:36:47,767
by Jeffrey Licker
to either collect the debt,
680
00:36:48,266 --> 00:36:50,200
or to kill Koby.
681
00:36:52,667 --> 00:36:55,867
[JJ] And he says
that Jeff Licker
682
00:36:55,867 --> 00:36:58,700
promised to give them
$5,000 to do it.
683
00:37:00,767 --> 00:37:03,900
[Kimbyrleigha]
Licker also said that,
once Koby was taken care of,
684
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:05,266
there was a girl
out in the car
685
00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:07,367
that they needed
to take care of, too.
686
00:37:08,867 --> 00:37:12,600
They saw Jeffrey Licker
leave the house and return,
687
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,600
bringing Lesia Kahl upstairs.
688
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,266
And apparently they were
going to get an extra $1,500
689
00:37:18,266 --> 00:37:19,600
to kill her, too.
690
00:37:28,567 --> 00:37:30,467
[Crystal]
I remember when I heard,
691
00:37:30,467 --> 00:37:31,767
the feeling was
692
00:37:31,767 --> 00:37:33,567
how could someone
look at her and--
693
00:37:34,667 --> 00:37:36,367
and do this?
694
00:37:38,467 --> 00:37:41,100
Lesia had been bludgeoned...
695
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,367
to death
696
00:37:44,567 --> 00:37:45,567
with a hammer.
697
00:37:47,266 --> 00:37:48,367
They got a trash bag
698
00:37:49,266 --> 00:37:51,000
and put it over her head.
699
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,800
Yanked a lamp out of the wall
and strangled her with it.
700
00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:03,367
And that's how...
701
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,567
that's how she died.
702
00:38:11,867 --> 00:38:15,967
[David] It sickens me
knowing that happened to her.
703
00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:18,600
It's-- it's just...
704
00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:24,867
Anyway... I mean,
she was someone special.
705
00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:27,867
And she had all this potential
to go way beyond that.
706
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,800
And it was taken away from us.
707
00:38:33,266 --> 00:38:35,100
[Holly]
When Lesia's story broke,
708
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:38,567
Playboy ust wanted to stay as
far away from it as possible.
709
00:38:38,567 --> 00:38:40,400
The philosophy was kind of,
710
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,967
if you don't say anything,
711
00:38:41,967 --> 00:38:45,000
you know, you won't add
fuel to the fire.
712
00:38:47,467 --> 00:38:50,667
[JJ] Based on the evidence
and voluntary statements
713
00:38:50,667 --> 00:38:53,367
from two of
the three defendants
714
00:38:53,367 --> 00:38:56,066
we were able
to put together warrants
715
00:38:56,066 --> 00:38:58,567
for the arrest of Jeff Licker,
716
00:38:58,567 --> 00:39:00,767
Joel Arnold
and Raymond Hackman
717
00:39:00,767 --> 00:39:03,567
for the deaths
of Koby Sandovsky
718
00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:05,266
and Lesia Kahl.
719
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:11,767
This case never went to court.
It all got pled out.
720
00:39:11,767 --> 00:39:14,300
Joel Arnold
and Raymond Hackman
721
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:17,800
both were sentenced
to 30 years for killing Koby
722
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400
and life sentences
for killing Lesia.
723
00:39:21,767 --> 00:39:24,500
[Kimbyrleigha]
Jeffrey Licker is convicted
on two counts of murder,
724
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:26,166
and he's given
ten years in prison
725
00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:28,100
and ten years' probation.
726
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,100
But I really
don't think someone
727
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,767
who orchestrated
a crime like this
728
00:39:33,767 --> 00:39:35,767
should be given
such a light sentence.
729
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:42,900
[Sunny] "Oh, I just thought
they were going to hurt him."
730
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:45,000
No. No, you didn't.
No, you didn't.
731
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,867
If you told those guys
to hurt him,
732
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:48,400
they would have hurt him.
733
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,767
They would have punched him in
the nose and said, you know,
734
00:39:50,767 --> 00:39:52,867
"Give me your drugs.
Don't come back," or whatever.
735
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,266
[Crystal] We needed to make
Jeffrey Licker
be held responsible,
736
00:39:58,266 --> 00:40:00,300
so we had a civil trial.
737
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:01,767
And to hit him where we could.
738
00:40:03,467 --> 00:40:05,100
[Kimbyrleigha] Two years
after Lesia's murder,
739
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,467
her parents won
a wrongful death lawsuit
740
00:40:07,467 --> 00:40:08,867
against Jeffrey Licker,
741
00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:12,700
and they were awarded
$9.3 million from him
742
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:14,567
and his homeowner's insurance.
743
00:40:18,066 --> 00:40:20,467
[Sunny] Joey was inconsolable.
744
00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,300
We had people saying,
"I heard what happened,"
745
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:25,700
and Joey would hear that
and he would just fall apart.
746
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:33,066
Forty years have gone by,
but when we talk about this,
747
00:40:33,066 --> 00:40:35,767
it still, um...
748
00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:38,367
just makes me so sad
for what she could have been.
749
00:40:40,367 --> 00:40:43,100
I think in the layboy world,
she probably would have risen,
750
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,266
but I think she had more
in her than that.
751
00:40:45,767 --> 00:40:47,066
And it's so sad because
752
00:40:47,066 --> 00:40:50,000
she never got to show
the rest of the world
753
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,800
what a really
wonderful person she is.
754
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:55,900
[Crystal] I love her.
755
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:57,667
I love her.
756
00:40:58,500 --> 00:40:59,500
I miss her.
757
00:41:02,066 --> 00:41:03,433
I want her to come back.
758
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:10,467
Even in my dreams,
I... I want that again.
759
00:41:12,467 --> 00:41:14,000
[Holly] Lesia's story
really affected me
760
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,467
because she was a young woman
761
00:41:15,467 --> 00:41:17,667
with such a bright future
ahead of her.
762
00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:19,667
Of course,
I can relate to her story.
763
00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:21,567
She could have gone on
to do anything,
764
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:23,467
and she had all of that
stolen from her
765
00:41:24,667 --> 00:41:26,300
strictly from being
in the wrong place
766
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:27,967
at the wrong time.