1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,219 We released Titanic 25 years ago. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:10,219 --> 00:00:12,387 But despite all our efforts to make the film 5 00:00:12,387 --> 00:00:14,431 as accurate as possible... 6 00:00:14,431 --> 00:00:17,809 There's one thing some fans just can't accept. 7 00:00:18,268 --> 00:00:20,646 They insist Jack could have survived if 8 00:00:20,646 --> 00:00:21,813 he climbed on that floating 9 00:00:21,813 --> 00:00:23,899 piece of debris with Rose. 10 00:00:23,899 --> 00:00:26,485 People even claim to have proved it. 11 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:30,781 Of course, Jack and Rose were fictional characters. 12 00:00:30,781 --> 00:00:33,951 Nearly 1,500 real people died that night, 13 00:00:33,951 --> 00:00:36,245 and my aim was to honor their memory. 14 00:00:36,245 --> 00:00:38,997 You know, imagine all of these people out there in the ocean. 15 00:00:38,997 --> 00:00:42,459 This is the crowd that was floating at sea. 16 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:44,753 But if we look at Jack and Rose's plight as a 17 00:00:44,753 --> 00:00:49,174 reflection of real events, it raises interesting questions. 18 00:00:50,425 --> 00:00:53,262 What actually happened when Titanic sank? 19 00:00:53,845 --> 00:00:57,307 Would having more lifeboats onboard have saved more lives? 20 00:00:57,307 --> 00:00:59,935 I think I probably would cut faster if my life depended on it. 21 00:01:01,937 --> 00:01:05,440 To find the answers, I'm going to revisit some relevant tests 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,734 my team of experts and I have conducted... 23 00:01:07,734 --> 00:01:10,070 Yes! 24 00:01:10,445 --> 00:01:12,281 Then, for the first time, 25 00:01:12,281 --> 00:01:15,450 I'm going to recreate Jack and Rose on the raft 26 00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:18,203 in a controlled laboratory setting. 27 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:21,081 So we're taking them to clinical hypothermia. 28 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:22,457 ROSE Jack! 29 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:25,127 And one, two... 30 00:01:25,919 --> 00:01:27,588 Three... 31 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:30,549 I don't think he could sustain this for very long. 32 00:01:32,342 --> 00:01:34,261 We'll find out, once and for all, whether Jack 33 00:01:34,261 --> 00:01:37,306 could have survived the sinking of Titanic. 34 00:01:37,306 --> 00:01:39,641 Well, I think we've seen enough. 35 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:54,531 Jim Cameron's Titanic was beyond anybody's expectations. 36 00:01:54,531 --> 00:01:57,784 We knew when we were working on it, it was going to be epic. 37 00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:00,746 What a great setting for a love story, this fantastic 38 00:02:00,746 --> 00:02:04,249 shipwreck that has fascinated people for decades anyway, 39 00:02:04,249 --> 00:02:06,877 presented so vividly and so accurately. 40 00:02:06,877 --> 00:02:09,629 To go back there is to risk being pulled down into 41 00:02:09,629 --> 00:02:11,882 that icy water with them. 42 00:02:11,882 --> 00:02:16,303 So it's really a choice between your lives and their lives. 43 00:02:16,303 --> 00:02:19,473 James Cameron brought Titanic back to life as I have 44 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:22,100 tried to do through my entire life with my paintings 45 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:24,603 and you can't put enough value on that. 46 00:02:24,603 --> 00:02:26,563 I knew the old lady in her grave, 47 00:02:26,563 --> 00:02:28,899 that's the Titanic I knew. 48 00:02:28,899 --> 00:02:31,652 Jim showed me this beautiful young woman, 49 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:33,528 we sailors tend to think of ships as women. 50 00:02:33,528 --> 00:02:35,489 He showed me that beautiful ship. 51 00:02:35,489 --> 00:02:37,240 I just loved it. 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,369 That movie used Titanic as a stage to tell 53 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:41,995 a teenage love story. 54 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:44,206 It wasn't meant to be a historical narrative, 55 00:02:44,206 --> 00:02:48,919 but it created a passion in Jim to follow up that movie 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,547 with actual expeditions to the actual wreck and because of 57 00:02:52,547 --> 00:02:57,803 that continued interest that goes way beyond a feature film, 58 00:02:57,803 --> 00:03:01,598 we have made discoveries and learned things that have 59 00:03:01,598 --> 00:03:03,767 actually changed the history and our 60 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:05,894 understanding of Titanic. 61 00:03:05,894 --> 00:03:08,563 Are you ready to go back to Titanic? 62 00:03:11,108 --> 00:03:15,612 On April 14th, 1912 at 11:40 pm, the RMS Titanic 63 00:03:15,612 --> 00:03:17,823 struck an iceberg during its maiden voyage 64 00:03:17,823 --> 00:03:19,408 from Southampton, England 65 00:03:19,408 --> 00:03:21,118 to New York City. 66 00:03:21,118 --> 00:03:23,245 Two hours and 40 minutes later, 67 00:03:23,245 --> 00:03:25,664 it sank to bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. 68 00:03:25,914 --> 00:03:29,418 Of the more than 2,200 passengers and crew onboard, 69 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:32,421 just over 700 survived that night. 70 00:03:32,421 --> 00:03:35,882 The wreck remained lost at sea until 1985, when oceanographer 71 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:38,677 Robert Ballard discovered it while on a secret mission 72 00:03:38,677 --> 00:03:40,345 for the US Navy. 73 00:03:40,345 --> 00:03:43,181 His expedition changed the way we explore the deep, 74 00:03:43,181 --> 00:03:45,058 and changed my life. 75 00:03:45,058 --> 00:03:48,437 Bob and I recently met at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library to take 76 00:03:48,437 --> 00:03:51,022 a look at their exhibit on Titanic. 77 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:56,194 Everybody that dives Titanic has their own story of seeing 78 00:03:56,194 --> 00:03:57,529 it for the first time. 79 00:03:57,529 --> 00:04:00,240 And probably the most frequently asked question 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,951 to me is, what was it like 81 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:04,453 seeing the wreck for the first time? 82 00:04:04,453 --> 00:04:06,246 I get asked that, "What was it like?" 83 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:08,498 And I always wanna tell them the story they want to hear... 84 00:04:08,498 --> 00:04:09,833 Right. 85 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:11,334 Which was, there she was and, you know, 86 00:04:11,334 --> 00:04:14,045 this beautiful, stately ruin... 87 00:04:14,045 --> 00:04:15,839 Yeah, right, right, right, right. 88 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:16,840 Coming out of the darkness. But that's not what happened. 89 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:18,216 No. 90 00:04:18,216 --> 00:04:19,634 Oh, I remember when we, this was where we came in, 91 00:04:19,634 --> 00:04:21,261 we landed here and... 92 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:22,387 It's a cliff. 93 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:23,805 The, you know, the wall of China. 94 00:04:23,805 --> 00:04:25,307 I mean, it's just a wall. 95 00:04:25,307 --> 00:04:29,728 And the first thing I recognized was the Anti-fouling paint. 96 00:04:29,728 --> 00:04:31,271 Yeah, the red. It was pink. 97 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:32,772 The red paint, right? It was still pink. 98 00:04:32,772 --> 00:04:33,815 And I said, "Too bad they didn't paint the whole ship 99 00:04:33,815 --> 00:04:35,233 with that stuff." 100 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:36,318 Yeah, and the bilge keel was sitting on top 101 00:04:36,318 --> 00:04:37,611 of the sand, it was back, back here. 102 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:38,778 Exactly, it was right, right there. 103 00:04:38,778 --> 00:04:40,197 And then the pilot, he said, "We got to go." 104 00:04:40,197 --> 00:04:41,948 Yeah. 105 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:44,618 So he dropped his weights and then we began our ascent. 106 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:45,994 But then these eyes. 107 00:04:45,994 --> 00:04:47,788 Yeah, which is your lights kicking back. 108 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:49,790 Your lights, all the eyes of the, 109 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:51,833 like the people in, were looking at us. 110 00:04:51,833 --> 00:04:52,876 Did you get spooked? 111 00:04:52,876 --> 00:04:53,960 It was spooky, yeah. 112 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,504 Because we were now in free ascent. 113 00:04:55,504 --> 00:04:57,756 There was no, we couldn't stop, you dropped all your weights. 114 00:04:57,756 --> 00:05:01,218 And it was just all these eyes and then we cleared it. 115 00:05:01,218 --> 00:05:02,802 It was amazing. 116 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:04,638 That's pretty much what it looked like to me 117 00:05:04,638 --> 00:05:07,390 the first time except we were down here someplace. 118 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:10,018 And we came in on her, right about here. 119 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:11,436 Yeah. 120 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:12,562 And we had come across this bermed-up mud... 121 00:05:12,562 --> 00:05:13,897 Yeah, yeah. 122 00:05:13,897 --> 00:05:15,941 He came up and we just cleared here. 123 00:05:15,941 --> 00:05:17,234 Yeah, all right. 124 00:05:17,234 --> 00:05:18,068 And then we wound up sitting up here. 125 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:19,569 Yeah. 126 00:05:19,569 --> 00:05:20,695 But there's also nothing cooler than coming up 127 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:21,988 on her from the, from the, from the... 128 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:23,198 Yeah. Yeah, that was our second dive. 129 00:05:23,198 --> 00:05:24,491 Right. And that's the money shot. 130 00:05:24,491 --> 00:05:25,909 And that's the money shot looking up. 131 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:27,911 We did it for fake in the movie and it's... 132 00:05:27,911 --> 00:05:29,454 You never... 133 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:31,498 It's the transition shot where it goes into 1912. 134 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:32,832 Yeah, yeah. 135 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:35,335 So we come past, past old Rose's face. 136 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:38,380 We come to that shot of the stem, the vertical bow, 137 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:41,132 and then we, we transition into 1912. 138 00:05:41,132 --> 00:05:43,301 And we crane up over it and we see the whole ship. 139 00:05:43,301 --> 00:05:44,469 Keep it coming. 140 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:45,846 Uh, watch your mate there, sir. 141 00:05:45,846 --> 00:05:47,222 Come one. Come on get in a row. 142 00:05:47,222 --> 00:05:48,890 Watch your bag. I'll give you a tour. 143 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:50,934 If we're going to seriously consider the question 144 00:05:50,934 --> 00:05:53,895 of whether Jack and Rose both could have survived, 145 00:05:53,895 --> 00:05:55,313 we need to look at the hardships 146 00:05:55,313 --> 00:05:57,065 they endured that night. 147 00:05:57,065 --> 00:06:01,069 For starters, the shocking way the ship broke apart. 148 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:05,407 The film Titanic depicted what we believed was 149 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:08,368 an accurate portrayal of the ship's last hours. 150 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,161 We showed it sinking bow first, 151 00:06:10,161 --> 00:06:12,372 lifting the stern high in the air before 152 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:14,916 its massive weight broke the vessel in two. 153 00:06:16,293 --> 00:06:17,919 Over the past 20 years, I've been trying to figure out 154 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:19,546 if we got that right. 155 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:21,882 I've dived to the wreck dozens of times and I brought 156 00:06:21,882 --> 00:06:26,094 in naval engineers to analyze all the complex variables at work. 157 00:06:26,761 --> 00:06:30,015 Now, I wanna take it to the next level, doing an actual, 158 00:06:30,015 --> 00:06:33,059 real-world physical test of the sinking that incorporates 159 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:35,353 the new information we've gathered. 160 00:06:35,353 --> 00:06:37,564 Will it sink the way we portrayed it? 161 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:39,065 I don't know. 162 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:41,651 Our mission is to mirror the physics at work as best 163 00:06:41,651 --> 00:06:43,904 we can, and see what happens. 164 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:45,780 There's a gazillion theories floating around, 165 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:47,032 there always have been. 166 00:06:47,032 --> 00:06:49,117 We wanna come up with a credible theory. 167 00:06:49,117 --> 00:06:50,619 The whole purpose of this investigation 168 00:06:50,619 --> 00:06:53,830 is to understand, does this hang on or does it go away? 169 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:55,332 And I've been talking about the bow swinging down 170 00:06:55,332 --> 00:06:57,667 and breaking off for 20 years, but I never had any proof. 171 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:00,587 It's just outside of science at this point. 172 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:03,214 And I thought, we'll just build a model and break it. 173 00:07:03,214 --> 00:07:06,426 I, I have no way of saying that that is in fact what happened, 174 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:09,346 but I'd like to be able to rule it in as a possibility. 175 00:07:09,346 --> 00:07:11,806 'Cause then, I don't have to remake the fricking film. 176 00:07:11,806 --> 00:07:14,768 We're gonna be doing practical rigging with pyrotechnics, and 177 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:16,311 sinking it in a tank. 178 00:07:16,311 --> 00:07:17,896 I immediately thought of Gene Warren. 179 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:20,065 I've known him forever, and we've done a few projects 180 00:07:20,065 --> 00:07:21,733 together over the years. 181 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:24,861 Let's think about what would be the best way to help 182 00:07:24,861 --> 00:07:27,113 hold that up when this breaks. 183 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:31,493 He wanted us to do a disaster forensics on really 184 00:07:31,493 --> 00:07:34,079 what happened when Titanic sank. 185 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:35,330 Because water is water. 186 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:38,500 Water doesn't change its dynamics. 187 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:39,584 Let's see what the bow does. 188 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:40,669 Let's see what the stern does, 189 00:07:40,669 --> 00:07:43,129 and recreate what might've happened. 190 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:44,422 I've been wanting to do this damn model test 191 00:07:44,422 --> 00:07:45,799 for a long time. 192 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:47,717 I knew that trying to incorporate all the lessons 193 00:07:47,717 --> 00:07:50,595 we'd learned about the sinking into a single model test wouldn't be easy. 194 00:07:50,595 --> 00:07:52,222 Well, that's not what I believe happened. 195 00:07:52,222 --> 00:07:54,349 But I was about to find out just how hard it would be. 196 00:07:54,349 --> 00:07:56,393 "You're not following what I'm saying." 197 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:03,233 Why did the Titanic go down the way it did? 198 00:08:03,858 --> 00:08:05,193 The mystery of the ship's sinking has 199 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:06,986 puzzled me for decades. 200 00:08:07,529 --> 00:08:09,656 Iceberg right ahead! 201 00:08:14,369 --> 00:08:16,621 In the movie, it breaks, and the stern falls 202 00:08:16,621 --> 00:08:20,125 back with a big wave, and then the bow pulls it down, 203 00:08:20,125 --> 00:08:22,085 and then it's stern stands up straight. 204 00:08:22,085 --> 00:08:24,462 And then the bow breaks off, sinks straight down, and that 205 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:27,048 stern's sittin' there and it slowly goes down. 206 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:29,718 It's a dramatic image, and as accurate as I could 207 00:08:29,718 --> 00:08:31,469 make it at the time. 208 00:08:31,469 --> 00:08:32,804 But I've never stopped trying to find out 209 00:08:32,804 --> 00:08:34,597 exactly what happened. 210 00:08:34,597 --> 00:08:37,767 Over the years, our little analysis team has used 211 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:41,146 a wide variety of source material in order to try and 212 00:08:41,146 --> 00:08:43,565 put together the pieces of the puzzle that is 213 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:45,817 the sinking of the Titanic. 214 00:08:45,817 --> 00:08:47,527 We know from the wreck exactly where 215 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:48,653 the steel broke. 216 00:08:48,653 --> 00:08:50,196 Right to the rivet. 217 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:53,658 Jim's exploration of the bow section has fine-tuned 218 00:08:53,658 --> 00:08:56,786 our understanding of what was going on during the flooding 219 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:58,913 and during the descent to the ocean floor. 220 00:08:58,913 --> 00:09:02,083 We got a mass that's knocked aft, all the B deck 221 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:06,921 forward-facing windows broken, broken, broken. 222 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:11,342 To me, that all adds up to a very strong longitudinal flow 223 00:09:11,342 --> 00:09:12,844 over the ship. 224 00:09:12,844 --> 00:09:15,346 We see a consistent pattern of the effects of an almost 225 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:19,017 hurricane-like flow of water from the front of the ship 226 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:20,769 toward the back of the ship. 227 00:09:20,769 --> 00:09:23,146 That can only be explained by the ship sinking 228 00:09:23,146 --> 00:09:24,731 vertically straight down. 229 00:09:24,731 --> 00:09:28,443 Big piece of the keel, 70 feet long two big frames 230 00:09:28,443 --> 00:09:31,237 of the double bottom, were found way out in the debris field. 231 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:32,405 They had been ripped off the ship. 232 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:33,782 By what? 233 00:09:33,782 --> 00:09:35,700 Well, they'd been ripped off by the bow separating. 234 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:37,494 Bit by bit, putting all these 235 00:09:37,494 --> 00:09:39,120 little data points together, 236 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,624 we're essentially able to reverse-engineer 237 00:09:42,624 --> 00:09:45,627 major key frames of the sinking. 238 00:09:45,627 --> 00:09:47,962 We engaged the United States Navy to build 239 00:09:47,962 --> 00:09:51,841 two computer simulation models of Titanic. 240 00:09:51,841 --> 00:09:53,968 One showed us how the water progressed through 241 00:09:53,968 --> 00:09:55,178 the ship as it sank. 242 00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:57,472 The other measures the stresses in a hull. 243 00:09:57,472 --> 00:09:58,973 And what it told us was, 244 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:02,977 Titanic didn't need to rise 90 degrees out of the water. 245 00:10:02,977 --> 00:10:06,356 The model calculated approximately 23 degrees 246 00:10:06,356 --> 00:10:08,983 before the peak stresses were realized in the structure 247 00:10:08,983 --> 00:10:10,443 and she broke. 248 00:10:10,443 --> 00:10:14,614 But for a ship the size of Titanic to sink, there's an 249 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:17,617 unlimited number of variables going on during the sinking. 250 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:18,993 The computer simulation 251 00:10:18,993 --> 00:10:20,537 would bear some of that out, but 252 00:10:20,537 --> 00:10:22,080 too many variables to nail down 253 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,289 exactly what would happened, 254 00:10:23,289 --> 00:10:25,083 so we got to try a different dimension, 255 00:10:25,083 --> 00:10:27,168 and that's where the physical model comes in. 256 00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:29,504 Hydrodynamically, it's got to be pretty close to 257 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:31,339 what the ship was, I think. 258 00:10:31,339 --> 00:10:32,757 It's a one-off model. 259 00:10:32,757 --> 00:10:34,884 It's not a 100% accurate in some of its fine details, 260 00:10:34,884 --> 00:10:36,928 but it was accurate in terms of the overall shape, 261 00:10:36,928 --> 00:10:39,514 which is all we really need for a hydrodynamic study. 262 00:10:39,514 --> 00:10:41,599 The biggest part was having this model 263 00:10:41,599 --> 00:10:45,353 float and then sink, like we learned from all of 264 00:10:45,353 --> 00:10:46,813 our research gathering. 265 00:10:46,813 --> 00:10:48,314 It's a known length, right, 70 feet? 266 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:49,607 Yes. 267 00:10:49,607 --> 00:10:51,109 70 feet from the, from the break aft. 268 00:10:51,109 --> 00:10:52,610 From the break point here. 269 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:54,028 We knew that the model was gonna have to break, so we had 270 00:10:54,028 --> 00:10:57,156 to put in a mechanism that would allow it to break at 271 00:10:57,156 --> 00:11:01,411 the point where our computer simulation had indicated. 272 00:11:01,411 --> 00:11:03,079 And so this is the hinge piece down here? 273 00:11:03,079 --> 00:11:04,622 Yeah, the hinge is right here. 274 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:07,041 No, that's not what I'm calling the hinge piece. 275 00:11:07,041 --> 00:11:08,209 The hinge isn't here. 276 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:09,419 The hinge is here. 277 00:11:09,419 --> 00:11:11,379 Jim, he'd given us some direction. 278 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:13,590 Um, we kind of got it half-right, 279 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:15,675 but he wanted the hinge in a different place. 280 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,176 It's what I called a banana theory, 281 00:11:17,176 --> 00:11:20,471 which is as the ship broke, that keel, 282 00:11:20,471 --> 00:11:22,473 the strongest part of the ship held on. 283 00:11:22,473 --> 00:11:24,893 This falls back, and that's there, and then it rips away. 284 00:11:24,893 --> 00:11:25,935 Mm-hmm. Exactly. 285 00:11:25,935 --> 00:11:27,395 That's your hinge piece. 286 00:11:27,395 --> 00:11:30,315 And as it ripped away, it formed almost like a third piece. 287 00:11:30,315 --> 00:11:31,691 It's the keel, it goes... 288 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:34,152 Like that. 289 00:11:34,152 --> 00:11:36,070 No, it doesn't take off yet necessarily, necessarily. 290 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:37,363 That's what we wanna understand. 291 00:11:37,363 --> 00:11:38,740 Understand. Right. 292 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,533 It's a kind of a proof of concept. 293 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:43,286 We can never prove what actually happened. 294 00:11:43,286 --> 00:11:46,039 We can only prove what might have happened. 295 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:50,084 The hydrodynamic forces on this were enough to snap 296 00:11:50,084 --> 00:11:52,670 the mast aft, blow the wheelhouse off. 297 00:11:52,670 --> 00:11:56,382 Jim came in and looked at it, and what he did not see 298 00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:59,469 is the water flow that accounts for a lot of 299 00:11:59,469 --> 00:12:01,179 the damage that we've seen at the wreck. 300 00:12:01,179 --> 00:12:05,808 So he's directed some changes so that we can truly remove 301 00:12:05,808 --> 00:12:08,603 any latent buoyancy left in the bow. 302 00:12:08,603 --> 00:12:10,730 We didn't have all the interior walls and everything 303 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:13,399 that would have slowed down the rate of flooding. 304 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:18,279 So, we used a combination of sponges and foam, foam to 305 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:22,158 provide buoyancy, sponges to provide a delaying factor in 306 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:25,328 how quickly a space will fill up with water once flooding. 307 00:12:25,328 --> 00:12:27,288 It' all very catastrophic right in here 308 00:12:27,288 --> 00:12:29,916 and very fast, which is the equivalent of this 309 00:12:29,916 --> 00:12:32,543 wicking the water in rapidly. 310 00:12:32,543 --> 00:12:36,464 Each successive run was basically a fine-tuning of 311 00:12:36,464 --> 00:12:40,343 the model to where we would see it perform the way 312 00:12:40,343 --> 00:12:41,844 that we knew it had to. 313 00:12:41,844 --> 00:12:43,388 Haven't we sunk this damn ship yet? 314 00:12:43,388 --> 00:12:44,806 Believe it or not, we're doing actually exactly, 315 00:12:44,806 --> 00:12:46,057 we're doing the banana peel. 316 00:12:46,057 --> 00:12:48,476 Okay. Well, let's see what we got. 317 00:12:51,562 --> 00:12:53,439 That thing's buoyant, so that's no good. 318 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:55,191 It needs to be negative. 319 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:56,818 Then we came up with another problem; 320 00:12:56,818 --> 00:13:00,405 when the ship breaks, it loses buoyancy. 321 00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:02,407 Our buoyancy was foam. 322 00:13:02,407 --> 00:13:05,785 We couldn't just make it disappear when it broke. 323 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:10,039 So we had to come up with a method to have the foam work 324 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:13,668 its own way out of the hull to simulate the loss of buoyancy 325 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,044 after the break. 326 00:13:15,044 --> 00:13:17,964 If they tried to adjust flotation in this so that 327 00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:21,009 the break happened where it's always been filmed, 328 00:13:21,009 --> 00:13:22,677 it's too high out of the water. 329 00:13:22,677 --> 00:13:23,845 Oh, yeah. 330 00:13:23,845 --> 00:13:25,263 Yeah, yeah, we definitely got that wrong. 331 00:13:25,263 --> 00:13:28,016 At that point, it became a team effort. 332 00:13:28,016 --> 00:13:29,642 I would drill up this area, right? 333 00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:31,185 Yeah. 334 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:32,520 This should all be packed with sponge up in here. 335 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,147 He jumped in with us like we were at 336 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:37,442 Roger Corman days, like he was in his 20s again. 337 00:13:37,442 --> 00:13:39,027 So, we'll probably have to cut these up, right? 338 00:13:39,027 --> 00:13:42,030 There we were, back rigging stuff together, and doing tape 339 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:44,198 and soldering and all the things that you do. 340 00:13:44,198 --> 00:13:45,992 That wasn't setting the way back machine for 341 00:13:45,992 --> 00:13:47,493 20 years ago on Titanic. 342 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:50,705 That was setting it back to the early '80s for me. 343 00:13:50,705 --> 00:13:51,998 You've done this before. 344 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:52,999 A few times. 345 00:13:54,125 --> 00:13:56,044 I'm blown my share of (bleep) up. 346 00:13:56,044 --> 00:13:58,421 We started to figure out how to do it in a way that 347 00:13:58,421 --> 00:14:02,967 we fine-tune the breakup by changing that timing. 348 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:05,553 We could have the stern fall back more, or fall back less, 349 00:14:05,553 --> 00:14:07,805 have the bow swing down more or swing down less. 350 00:14:09,182 --> 00:14:10,725 When we did our computer simulation, 351 00:14:10,725 --> 00:14:13,895 there was a moment where the stresses on the ship exceeded 352 00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:16,439 the strength of the material. 353 00:14:16,439 --> 00:14:18,775 And that's when it should have broken. 354 00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:22,445 And that happened when the ship tilted to 23 degrees. 355 00:14:22,445 --> 00:14:25,948 So when we sank the ship at 23 degrees, it seemed to do 356 00:14:25,948 --> 00:14:27,700 everything that was observed. 357 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,243 We said it broke at 23 degrees. 358 00:14:29,243 --> 00:14:32,163 So, we were actually breaking at around 25, 26 degrees, 359 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:33,831 according to this crude test. 360 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:36,000 But I mean I think, you know, it's telling us something. 361 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,418 We're homing in on this. 362 00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:39,504 And in fact, that was even increased when it broke, 363 00:14:39,504 --> 00:14:42,340 the stern kind of popped up a little bit and 364 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:43,841 you could kind of see the break. 365 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:47,136 And the bow swung down and detached and fell vertically. 366 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:49,347 So we feel pretty comfortable that it, that it was somewhere 367 00:14:49,347 --> 00:14:53,768 between maybe 20 and 30 degrees of tilt when it broke. 368 00:14:53,768 --> 00:14:54,769 All right, here we go. 369 00:14:54,769 --> 00:14:56,813 Let's do it, let's roll. 370 00:14:59,690 --> 00:15:03,111 All right, so props are clear. 371 00:15:03,111 --> 00:15:05,696 And it breaks right at the water line. 372 00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:07,532 Oh, that's sweet. Comes up a little bit. 373 00:15:07,532 --> 00:15:09,283 Sweet. 374 00:15:11,369 --> 00:15:13,871 Swings down, pulls the stern more vertical. 375 00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:15,164 That's the banana model. 376 00:15:15,164 --> 00:15:18,376 Check that out! Touchdown! 377 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:21,295 We did see some scenarios played out almost 378 00:15:21,295 --> 00:15:22,880 exactly as it was filmed. 379 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,466 The stern going under vertically, 380 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,468 giving Jack and Rose their few moments, 381 00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:29,178 right there at the fan tail. 382 00:15:29,178 --> 00:15:31,597 As the stern came up, and went vertical, 383 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:34,100 it always turned almost 90 degrees. 384 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:36,185 And that's exactly what people saw. 385 00:15:36,185 --> 00:15:38,229 Now people describe it standing up like, uh, 386 00:15:38,229 --> 00:15:41,399 like a tower or like a finger pointing at the sky and 387 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:42,692 that's exactly what we saw. 388 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,319 Yes! Vertical stern! 389 00:15:45,319 --> 00:15:47,488 Yes! 390 00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:49,782 It's not like we did a battery of 100 runs with 391 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:51,367 a very precision model. 392 00:15:51,367 --> 00:15:54,453 But I think it does show what is possible to have happened. 393 00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:56,664 I think what we're seeing is there's a range, right? 394 00:15:56,664 --> 00:15:59,709 You can get it to where the stern falls back. 395 00:15:59,709 --> 00:16:03,254 But then it doesn't go vertical when it goes under. 396 00:16:03,254 --> 00:16:06,132 We found out that you can have the stern sink vertically and 397 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:09,135 you can have the stern fall back with a big splash, 398 00:16:09,135 --> 00:16:10,928 but you can't have both. 399 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:13,723 So the film is wrong on one point or the other. 400 00:16:13,723 --> 00:16:17,727 I tend to think it's wrong on the fall back of the stern, 401 00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:21,230 because of what we see at the bow of the wreck. 402 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:27,862 There are about five or six instances of hydrodynamic effects, 403 00:16:27,862 --> 00:16:29,906 and there's only one way that can happen. 404 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:33,159 It swung down, and it shot off like a bomb 405 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:34,660 dropping straight down. 406 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:37,997 So, I think we can rule in the possibility of a vertical 407 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,958 stern sinking, and I think we can rule out the possibility 408 00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:43,794 of it both falling back and then going vertical. 409 00:16:43,794 --> 00:16:45,755 We were sort of half-right in the movie. 410 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:49,050 With each thing that we try, each step that we take, 411 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,676 I think we're getting closer and closer to 412 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:52,303 what actually did happen that night. 413 00:16:52,303 --> 00:16:53,638 Okay, let's do it again. 414 00:16:53,638 --> 00:16:55,056 That was perfect. Let's do it again. 415 00:16:56,599 --> 00:17:00,144 I'm constantly fascinated by the engineering, the hardware, 416 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:02,897 the forensics, and I'll get very excited about 417 00:17:02,897 --> 00:17:04,482 the ideas, you know. 418 00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:07,443 You always have to kind of grab yourself by the scruff of 419 00:17:07,443 --> 00:17:09,862 your neck and remind yourself what happened there was a real 420 00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:13,157 tragedy that happened to real people, and it still 421 00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:16,327 resonates down through time in this very powerful way. 422 00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:19,372 But sometimes you forget that in the moment, but I try 423 00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:21,999 never to forget it for very long. 424 00:17:21,999 --> 00:17:24,627 In our movie, Jack and Rose were among the hundreds of 425 00:17:24,627 --> 00:17:27,922 passengers who plunged into the freezing water. 426 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:30,508 The safest place to be was in a lifeboat... 427 00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:33,094 Which brings up another controversy. 428 00:17:33,094 --> 00:17:35,179 If the ship had more lifeboats, 429 00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:37,348 could more people have been saved? 430 00:17:40,851 --> 00:17:43,688 Mr. Andrews, forgive me. 431 00:17:43,688 --> 00:17:46,232 I did the sum in my head, 432 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:47,733 and with the number of lifeboats 433 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:50,987 times the capacity you mentioned, forgive me, 434 00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:53,990 but it seems there are not enough for everyone aboard. 435 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:55,866 About half, actually. 436 00:17:56,534 --> 00:17:58,077 Titanic carried 20 lifeboats, but they only 437 00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:00,997 managed to launch 18 in an hour and a half. 438 00:18:00,997 --> 00:18:02,707 Now we've all been told that if the ship carried 439 00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:05,084 more boats, more lives could have been saved. 440 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,336 But would that really have made a difference? 441 00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:11,048 Could the crew have launched more boats in the time they had? 442 00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:12,967 I've wondered about this for a long time, 443 00:18:12,967 --> 00:18:15,553 and we never tested it until now. 444 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:20,433 So what we did was we took a replica lifeboat 445 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,685 left over from the movie with a set 446 00:18:22,685 --> 00:18:24,145 of davits mounted on top 447 00:18:24,145 --> 00:18:27,315 a platform that was tall enough to represent the height 448 00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:30,776 of the promenade deck, boat deck being up on top. 449 00:18:30,776 --> 00:18:34,864 Got a crew to man and lower the lifeboat so that we could 450 00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:37,825 see how long it took. 451 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:39,744 We figured that it would take about two minutes to roll 452 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:41,370 the canvas back on these lifeboats. 453 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:42,830 Roll back that cover! 454 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:44,123 Roll back that cover! 455 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:46,459 So we preset our clock to 2:00 minutes. 456 00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:50,630 Okay, so the ropes are in, 457 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,548 and you guys know what to do, right, 458 00:18:52,548 --> 00:18:53,758 to get them flaked out on the deck? 459 00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:55,176 Mm-hmm. Yes. 460 00:18:55,176 --> 00:18:56,636 You gonna do that sort of there and there so 461 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:57,928 we need to stay out of this. 462 00:18:57,928 --> 00:18:59,930 No, we, we can put it right there. 463 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:01,182 Well, put it where you would have done it if you were really on the ship. 464 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:02,642 Okay. 465 00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:03,851 And if we're in your way, then move us out of 466 00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:06,020 the way because we're curious passengers, 467 00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:08,105 and you're having to yell at us to get out of the way. 468 00:19:08,105 --> 00:19:10,107 Politely of course because we're also, you know, 469 00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:13,569 rich passengers in the first class area of Titanic. 470 00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:14,987 And it's noisy. 471 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:18,532 So, when we say go, ready the boat and then 472 00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:20,117 tell us when it's ready, okay? 473 00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:22,703 Yeah. Bring lines on deck. 474 00:19:22,703 --> 00:19:24,747 Clock is running. 475 00:19:38,719 --> 00:19:41,055 Remove cradle. 476 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,017 Swing boat out. 477 00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:49,522 Yeah, you can see how geared down it is 478 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:50,815 on that lead screw. 479 00:19:50,815 --> 00:19:52,692 It takes a lot of cranks to get that davit to 480 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:55,111 move just a few feet. 481 00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,904 Keep it cleared, keep cranking! 482 00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:58,698 The other thing you notice is, 483 00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:01,575 was the voice commands by the officer coordinating the two sides. 484 00:20:01,575 --> 00:20:03,411 And in the beginning with that steam going off... 485 00:20:04,829 --> 00:20:06,288 They're gonna have trouble hearing. 486 00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:07,832 Somebody would have to yell back and forth or 487 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:10,209 somebody would just have to see the other guys working and 488 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:13,587 just imitate, because they couldn't hear anything. 489 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,430 Okay, good! 490 00:20:25,099 --> 00:20:26,726 Lower boat embarkation deck! 491 00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:28,769 So, at what point do they start loading it? 492 00:20:28,769 --> 00:20:30,521 So they're going to lower down to the edge 493 00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:31,689 of the boat deck. 494 00:20:31,689 --> 00:20:32,857 'Cause then you just step into it. 495 00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:34,442 Right. You wanna step into it, 496 00:20:34,442 --> 00:20:36,318 you do not want them stepping over it, if you can avoid it. 497 00:20:36,318 --> 00:20:37,903 Right. Hold it! 498 00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:39,113 Secure the boat! 499 00:20:39,113 --> 00:20:40,489 Okay. 500 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:41,907 All right, stop the clock. 501 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:43,033 Eight minutes and 30 seconds, wow. 502 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:45,286 Eight minutes and 30 seconds. 503 00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:47,329 Now we're just gonna have to just estimate the loading time. 504 00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:49,331 The key here is, is that you don't know how much 505 00:20:49,331 --> 00:20:52,042 time you have, you've never practiced this. 506 00:20:52,042 --> 00:20:54,003 But just as a baseline, let's get some values for how 507 00:20:54,003 --> 00:20:55,671 long it takes to do each part of the operation. 508 00:20:55,671 --> 00:20:57,214 Yeah, exactly. 509 00:20:57,214 --> 00:20:59,550 So, I think you're, you're probably looking at a, 510 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:01,552 a time that varied. 511 00:21:01,552 --> 00:21:04,430 Initially it was probably slower, as people were reticent, 512 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:07,349 and then later as they got more desperate, it probably sped up. 513 00:21:07,349 --> 00:21:08,476 Let's say ten minutes. 514 00:21:08,476 --> 00:21:09,351 Okay. Let's say ten minutes. 515 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:10,519 Yeah. Okay. 516 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:12,062 That put us up to 18 and a half minutes. 517 00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:15,024 Now let's see how long it takes us to lower it one deck level. 518 00:21:15,024 --> 00:21:16,317 Ready? And clock running. 519 00:21:16,317 --> 00:21:19,236 Ready! Okay, lower! 520 00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:23,699 You're right, it did jerks its way down and look at the... 521 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,993 You can see how jerky it is even now, not loaded. 522 00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:29,121 It would be like three times that when it was fully loaded. 523 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:31,165 That'd make it a lot harder to lower. 524 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:40,174 Okay, pull it. Okay. 525 00:21:40,174 --> 00:21:43,344 Stopping the clock. So what was that? 526 00:21:43,344 --> 00:21:44,386 Just shy of two minutes. 527 00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:45,638 Just shy of two minutes. 528 00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:46,680 Okay, so that's two minutes to go ten feet. 529 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,932 Mm-hmm. 530 00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:49,183 It's another 50 feet to the water, 531 00:21:49,183 --> 00:21:50,935 so we have to add another ten minutes. 532 00:21:50,935 --> 00:21:53,646 So that's 30 minutes, 30 seconds. 533 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,189 And they were working simultaneously. 534 00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:58,359 They were loading passengers in while they were 535 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,610 cranking out the next boat. 536 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:00,861 Right. 537 00:22:00,861 --> 00:22:02,571 Then our times can telescope somewhat. 538 00:22:02,571 --> 00:22:05,699 When you start multiplying it out, it should have taken 539 00:22:05,699 --> 00:22:07,076 more like two hours. 540 00:22:07,076 --> 00:22:09,203 From the time the lifeboats were ordered launched, 541 00:22:09,203 --> 00:22:10,955 you had about an hour and a half. 542 00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:14,124 However they managed it, they had just enough time 543 00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:15,376 to get those boats off. 544 00:22:15,376 --> 00:22:16,585 Not quite enough time. 545 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:18,045 Yeah, not quite. 546 00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:19,463 The truth is the last two boats, the last two 547 00:22:19,463 --> 00:22:21,590 collapsibles were washed off the ship. 548 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:23,676 They did not have time. 549 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,803 It's actually pretty amazing that they managed to launch 550 00:22:25,803 --> 00:22:27,721 as many as lifeboats as they did. 551 00:22:27,721 --> 00:22:30,224 And what made it even more challenging was in the final 552 00:22:30,224 --> 00:22:33,310 stages of Titanic sinking, the lifeboats were being 553 00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:35,688 launched right on top of each other. 554 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:38,232 To avoid being crushed, men were cutting the ropes 555 00:22:38,232 --> 00:22:41,193 connected to the davits with pocket knives. 556 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:43,988 I mean, I wanted to see for myself how difficult that was. 557 00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:47,283 Well, let's raise up one end of the boat in content. 558 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:49,535 About one inch out of the cradle! 559 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:50,536 And then they want to cut one of the ropes. 560 00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:51,787 Okay. 561 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:52,538 No, I was thinking more like a foot. 562 00:22:52,538 --> 00:22:53,539 One foot? 563 00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:55,541 Let's do an action shot! 564 00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:58,419 Let's raise it up a foot guys. 565 00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:01,046 All right, so who's gonna do the honors? 566 00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:02,339 What someone needs... I'll do it. 567 00:23:02,339 --> 00:23:04,133 To go under the boat? I'll do it. 568 00:23:04,592 --> 00:23:07,136 Whatever happens, Jim, we'll get it on film. 569 00:23:07,136 --> 00:23:09,263 Exactly! Let's go! 570 00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:10,389 Clock running. 571 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:11,724 All right. 572 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:14,393 Jeez, is this an actual knife? 573 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:15,853 It, it should have been a really sharp knife. 574 00:23:15,853 --> 00:23:17,229 It's sharp! 575 00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:18,814 But we do know this type of knife was used. 576 00:23:18,814 --> 00:23:21,150 All right, I'm gonna go with your expertise. 577 00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:24,403 I think I probably would cut faster if my life depended on it. 578 00:23:25,821 --> 00:23:27,072 That's promising. 579 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,825 We're getting close. Aw, jeez. 580 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:31,702 Can you imagine like 50 people screaming? 581 00:23:31,702 --> 00:23:33,579 Yeah. Water coming up? 582 00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:35,497 There's a boat coming down on your head, don't forget. 583 00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:36,832 Yeah, that too. 584 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:38,125 It's gonna get dramatic here in a second. 585 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:39,209 I can hear it. 586 00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:42,338 All right, that's promising. 587 00:23:48,177 --> 00:23:49,845 Beauty! 588 00:23:49,845 --> 00:23:51,096 And we're free. 589 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:52,264 Yeah! 590 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:53,557 So how long did that take? 591 00:23:53,557 --> 00:23:54,850 1:40. 592 00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:56,185 I would say if my life depended on it, 593 00:23:56,185 --> 00:23:58,687 I could probably shave about 30 seconds off that. 594 00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:01,023 And you go for a ride! 595 00:24:04,151 --> 00:24:05,819 I think if you had more lifeboats on that ship, 596 00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:07,613 they would've just gotten in the way and 597 00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:09,823 it might've cost hundreds of lives. 598 00:24:10,824 --> 00:24:12,910 We've answered the lifeboat question. 599 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:15,537 Now it's time to solve another controversy. 600 00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:19,124 Could both Rose and Jack have survived? 601 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:22,252 I don't think he could sustain this for very long. 602 00:24:28,676 --> 00:24:31,720 When Titanic sank, almost 1500 people went into 603 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,473 the freezing Arctic water. 604 00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:38,602 Most were wearing lifebelts. 605 00:24:38,602 --> 00:24:41,939 But death came quickly, not from drowning, but 606 00:24:41,939 --> 00:24:43,899 from the extreme cold. 607 00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:47,277 Floating in 28 degree water, it doesn't take long for the 608 00:24:47,277 --> 00:24:48,946 body to start shutting down. 609 00:24:48,946 --> 00:24:50,364 Keep swimming. 610 00:24:50,364 --> 00:24:52,658 And eventually you succumb to hypothermia. 611 00:24:52,658 --> 00:24:55,536 Can anyone hear me? 612 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:58,247 This is what took the lives of the passengers who 613 00:24:58,247 --> 00:25:00,165 hadn't made it into lifeboats. 614 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:02,668 Is there anyone alive out there? 615 00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:04,002 It's pretty daunting when you see 616 00:25:04,002 --> 00:25:05,379 all the names all at once. 617 00:25:05,379 --> 00:25:07,172 Exactly. I mean... How many people? 618 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:10,300 In this? 1,496 people. 619 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,970 You know, imagine all of these people out there in the ocean. 620 00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:15,889 This is the crowd that was floating at sea. 621 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:22,563 You know, you, you get so into the forensics of it... 622 00:25:22,563 --> 00:25:24,064 Yeah, yes. 623 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:25,524 You know, and, uh, studying the wreck and the 624 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,735 breakup of the wreck and discovering the artifacts and 625 00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:31,780 so on, you really lose sight of the human tragedy sometimes. 626 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:34,199 I know, I know that that was an epiphany for me when I was 627 00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:35,534 there at the wreck the first time. 628 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:36,618 Mm-hmm. 629 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,620 You know, how that hit me. 630 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,956 And I'd been studying it for months, you know, 631 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:43,250 but it wasn't, now it wasn't at a remove, 632 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:44,460 it wasn't a myth anymore. 633 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:46,253 These were real people. 634 00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:51,467 For the movie, I wrote that Rose gets onto a piece of 635 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:54,344 wooden debris that's too small and unstable 636 00:25:54,344 --> 00:25:56,597 to support them both. 637 00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:01,769 He's in love with her. 638 00:26:01,769 --> 00:26:04,646 He's looking at not clearly, definitively enough buoyancy 639 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:07,566 for them both to survive. 640 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:10,611 Jack's survival might have come at the price of her life. 641 00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:12,821 And that's all going through his head. 642 00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:18,076 But ever since the movie came out, people have insisted 643 00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:20,412 they both could have survived. 644 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:21,914 I'll never let go! 645 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:23,749 Fans of the movie have been going on endlessly 646 00:26:23,749 --> 00:26:25,751 about the fact that Jack could've lived, 647 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:27,669 he could've gotten on that door. 648 00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:31,215 So let's test it, let's do some science, you know, 649 00:26:31,215 --> 00:26:32,883 let's see if he could've lived. 650 00:26:32,883 --> 00:26:36,720 We took two stunt people of the same age, height, and weight as 651 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,348 Jack and Rose to the New Zealand laboratory 652 00:26:39,348 --> 00:26:41,350 of Doctor Jim Cotter. 653 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:44,019 Jim and his team study the effects of cold on 654 00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:45,479 the human body. 655 00:26:45,479 --> 00:26:48,524 We created an exact replica of the raft in the movie, 656 00:26:48,524 --> 00:26:50,108 as much as we could reproduce it, 657 00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:52,945 and we carefully trimmed it to the same free board, 658 00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:55,614 the same degree of buoyancy that we see in the film, 659 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:58,200 and then we started playing around with like 660 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,285 how could he have gotten out of that situation 661 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:03,038 without compromising her safety. 662 00:27:03,038 --> 00:27:04,832 Here we go. 663 00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:08,043 There's a genuine element of danger to these experiments. 664 00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:09,628 All right. 665 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:12,297 So we're taking them to clinical hypothermia. 666 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:13,632 When you're talking about hypothermia 667 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,175 you're talking about it clinically, meaning that 668 00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:17,719 the core, the internal organs, the heart and everything are 669 00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,888 starting to get affected by the ambient temperature. 670 00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:21,390 Yeah. 671 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:23,392 Hypothermia sets in when the body's core temperature 672 00:27:23,392 --> 00:27:26,311 drops to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. 673 00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:29,648 As you cool, you lose blood flow to your extremities... 674 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:31,984 And then your organs begin to shut down. 675 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:34,820 We're basically seeing how long it takes Jack 676 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:37,281 to cool down to 95. 677 00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:39,449 We're not gonna let him go more than 95, 678 00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:41,368 it's clinically hypothermic, 679 00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:43,996 we shouldn't take him colder than that. 680 00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:45,706 Our Jack and Rose have been fitted with 681 00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:47,624 three internal thermometers, 682 00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:50,586 one in the lowest part of the digestive tract, 683 00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:53,005 one that travels through the intestine, 684 00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:54,214 and one that sits in the 685 00:27:54,214 --> 00:27:56,800 esophagus next to the heart. 686 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,012 Jack, right now reading 98.6, 687 00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:01,805 baseline core temperature pretty good. 688 00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:05,642 Rose is just over 98.6. 689 00:28:08,228 --> 00:28:10,105 The pool's water temperature can't go below 690 00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,149 50 degrees Fahrenheit. 691 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:15,611 So we're running each test twice as long, to approximate 692 00:28:15,611 --> 00:28:19,364 the effects of 28 degree Arctic water. 693 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,950 Is there anyone alive out there? 694 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:24,161 Fifth officer Lowe testified that it was almost 695 00:28:24,161 --> 00:28:26,204 two hours before he could row back to 696 00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:28,457 rescue people in the water. 697 00:28:28,457 --> 00:28:32,002 In the movie, Rose is still barely alive, 698 00:28:32,002 --> 00:28:34,212 but Jack has died. 699 00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:35,839 Jack... 700 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,800 So our first experiment will be a baseline test 701 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,011 to see what would have really happened to them. 702 00:28:41,011 --> 00:28:42,471 Whoo! 703 00:28:42,471 --> 00:28:43,931 Okay, all right, now so, come around here... 704 00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:46,224 We put them in the same position he was in the movie, 705 00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:50,145 put her in the same position she was in the movie, and saw 706 00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:53,106 how rapidly his core temperature dropped. 707 00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:56,360 So you're already shivering pretty intensely. 708 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,362 That's, that's pretty early. 709 00:28:58,362 --> 00:29:01,865 Our Jack is losing heat even faster than expected. 710 00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:05,160 Rose's core temperature is dropping much more slowly. 711 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,704 So you were underwater at the start. 712 00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:08,872 No I don't feel too wet. 713 00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,249 I think this coat is doing a really good job. 714 00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:12,960 Yeah. 715 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,252 It's made out of wool and that's keeping me quite warm. 716 00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:16,046 Plus the lifejacket as well, 717 00:29:16,046 --> 00:29:17,714 so I feel quite warm around my core. 718 00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:20,550 You've got three big benefits over Jack. 719 00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:21,927 Yes. 720 00:29:21,927 --> 00:29:24,471 After only 20 minutes in Titanic time, 721 00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:26,556 Jack is clinically hypothermic and has 722 00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:28,684 to be taken out of the water. 723 00:29:28,684 --> 00:29:32,145 In 28 degree water it can be pretty quick. 724 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:35,315 People will lose consciousness and their heart will cease to 725 00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:38,610 function adequately and pump adequately. 726 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,320 And it was pretty steep curve and 727 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,197 it was a very clear curve. 728 00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:44,074 He was losing heat fast. 729 00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:45,450 Dropping down. He wouldn't have made it. 730 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:47,452 The movie was correct. 731 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:50,163 Jack could not have survived as it was played in the film. 732 00:29:51,915 --> 00:29:54,418 But what if Jack and Rose had tried something different? 733 00:29:54,418 --> 00:29:57,254 With our modern understanding of hypothermia, 734 00:29:57,254 --> 00:29:59,548 could we save them both? 735 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,469 He clearly made a decision to sacrifice himself 736 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:06,680 so she could have all the buoyancy for herself. 737 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,306 But what if they split it? 738 00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:10,851 So we'll start with you in that initial position. 739 00:30:10,851 --> 00:30:13,979 The object is to get your head and shoulders over a bit 740 00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:16,732 toward the far side, 'cause the idea is if you can get 741 00:30:16,732 --> 00:30:21,028 your core up out of the water, then you'll be better off. 742 00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:23,363 Okay, I'm on. 743 00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:25,574 Yep. 744 00:30:25,574 --> 00:30:27,409 So, ease up on it, just use your weight, yep... 745 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:30,370 So the next test is let's look at, what, what if they 746 00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:32,205 just did the natural next thing. 747 00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:34,791 Try to solve this problem without tipping the raft... 748 00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:35,959 Okay. So, you go up first. 749 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:37,794 Okay. 750 00:30:39,004 --> 00:30:41,173 Okay, you try to shift and a little over. 751 00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:43,675 Okay, shift around to the end so 752 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,510 you're coming in on the end. 753 00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,555 Find your balance. 754 00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:50,515 All right. 755 00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:53,518 All right? 756 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:54,853 Pretty unstable... 757 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,271 All right! 758 00:30:58,482 --> 00:31:01,359 It doesn't look like it's a roaring success. 759 00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:03,779 He says, "All right, I'm just gonna try that again 760 00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:05,906 a little slower and I'm gonna creep up." 761 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:08,658 So he just creeps up and he gets his upper body kinda as 762 00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:11,244 much out of the water as possible. 763 00:31:12,621 --> 00:31:13,747 Feels pretty stable, huh? 764 00:31:13,747 --> 00:31:15,123 Stability-wise, it's fine. 765 00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:17,793 So if a swell came along, kind of bounced you 766 00:31:17,793 --> 00:31:19,252 a little bit, you're okay, right? 767 00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:20,629 Yeah. 768 00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:22,130 Jack and Rose are able to get on the raft, 769 00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:25,092 but now they're both submerged in dangerous levels 770 00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:26,843 of freezing water. 771 00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:30,013 We started with her putting her arm around him... 772 00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,807 Um, go for it. 773 00:31:31,807 --> 00:31:34,518 Go for it, as long as you feel that you're stable on the raft. 774 00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:36,770 But it actually pushed him down and his chest was 775 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:39,147 awash in the water and he was losing a lot of heat 776 00:31:39,147 --> 00:31:40,649 through the front. 777 00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:44,027 He is still cooling down quite a bit more than Rose. 778 00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:46,404 What if Jack put his arm around her? 779 00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:49,658 Lifted his chest up and put her more at risk. 780 00:31:49,658 --> 00:31:50,742 Oh yeah, I feel cold! 781 00:31:52,536 --> 00:31:54,037 If you think about it from character, 782 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:57,958 he would have wanted to protect her as much as possible. 783 00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:00,502 How's Jack's core temperature doing? 784 00:32:00,502 --> 00:32:02,003 Steadily dropping. Mm-hmm. 785 00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:04,714 Slower than yesterday when he was more immersed, 786 00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:06,508 but he's still creeping down. 787 00:32:06,508 --> 00:32:08,009 Okay. 788 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:10,303 That's, that's yesterday, that's today, right? 789 00:32:10,303 --> 00:32:12,180 He's going down continuously... 790 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,558 Mm-hmm. But at a slower rate. 791 00:32:14,558 --> 00:32:16,935 With Rose you can see there's almost no difference 792 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:20,021 between her baseline experiment yesterday and today. 793 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:21,648 I would have expected more, 794 00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:24,401 but it's obviously not getting to her core, right? 795 00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:28,405 'Cause he was still getting pretty cold, pretty fast. 796 00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:30,448 So the question is, how do we save his life? 797 00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:32,450 How do we get this curve up. 798 00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:33,910 Yep. Right? 799 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:36,079 How do we get him up where she is? 800 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:40,667 My pals over at Mythbusters opined that, "Oh well, they 801 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,794 could have just solved the problem because the buoyancy 802 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,463 that she was carrying wasn't doing them any good 803 00:32:45,463 --> 00:32:46,965 out of the water..." 804 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,383 You're wearing a lifejacket. 805 00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:51,553 What say if Rose spreads some of her buoyancy around. 806 00:32:51,553 --> 00:32:53,763 Let's put it underneath this thing and get every bit 807 00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:55,098 we can out of it." 808 00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:56,516 So we tried that. 809 00:32:56,516 --> 00:32:59,060 The task is going to be to work together to take her 810 00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:02,063 lifejacket off and put it underneath the raft. 811 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:04,733 Think for a moment about what a lifejacket does, it's just 812 00:33:04,733 --> 00:33:08,945 to get your mouth out of the water so you can breathe. 813 00:33:08,945 --> 00:33:11,865 So it takes you from here to here. 814 00:33:11,865 --> 00:33:14,075 It doesn't lift your entire weight, 815 00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:16,203 so let's say Jack weighed 170 pounds, 816 00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:17,871 he doesn't have 170 pounds of lift 817 00:33:17,871 --> 00:33:19,831 available if he's wearing a lifejacket. 818 00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:23,084 Buoyancy that it's generating is so, so little. 819 00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:26,630 I, I don't see a big difference by eye. 820 00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:29,507 Your greatest loss here would be, would be losing it. 821 00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:31,843 Also, with Rose without a lifejacket with 822 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:35,555 her big coat and dress on, she would just go down. 823 00:33:35,555 --> 00:33:38,683 The lifejacket thing was, was a waste of time. 824 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:41,853 I think for the degree to which it compromised her 825 00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:45,523 safety by taking it off, it added very little. 826 00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:49,027 It's not doing anything. 827 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,404 You'd be better keeping it on her and not using it for 828 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:54,157 buoyancy but try using it for thermal insulation. 829 00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:57,911 So we can bust that myth, guys. 830 00:33:57,911 --> 00:33:59,663 Sorry. 831 00:33:59,663 --> 00:34:02,666 Our tests at the hypothermia lab showed that if Jack had 832 00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:05,460 climbed onto the raft with Rose, they would have 833 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:09,089 both been partially submerged in freezing water. 834 00:34:10,215 --> 00:34:12,092 He would still have died before the rescue boat 835 00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:14,386 arrived two hours later. 836 00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:16,554 And she might have died, too. 837 00:34:17,806 --> 00:34:19,766 But if Jack and Rose knew what we know today 838 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:23,478 about hypothermia, could they both have survived? 839 00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:28,400 What would it be like if we just do the best case? 840 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,236 Best case that we can imagine is they both kneel on the raft, 841 00:34:31,236 --> 00:34:35,323 facing each other, use their body heat together, you know, 842 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,702 kind of in an embrace, and she shares her heat 843 00:34:38,702 --> 00:34:40,578 with him and vice-versa and they kind of insulate, 844 00:34:40,578 --> 00:34:43,456 they huddle against the, the elements, right? 845 00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:46,251 So we get them on the raft, we try to do that, guess what... 846 00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:47,877 Pretty unstable... 847 00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:49,379 All right! 848 00:34:49,379 --> 00:34:50,672 It ain't happening. 849 00:34:50,672 --> 00:34:52,299 That thing's way too unstable. 850 00:34:52,299 --> 00:34:54,301 I'm, I'm using quite a lot of energy just 851 00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:56,303 trying to keep... 852 00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:58,805 So Jim Cotter, in this situation, is them using 853 00:34:58,805 --> 00:35:01,516 energy to stay balanced working for them or against them? 854 00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:02,684 No, against. 855 00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:04,144 Any muscle that's having to move is, 856 00:35:04,144 --> 00:35:06,521 needs a little more blood, that's taking the heat away. 857 00:35:06,521 --> 00:35:07,731 Right. Okay. 858 00:35:07,731 --> 00:35:08,773 A bit more heat production, 859 00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:10,650 but proportionally more heat loss. 860 00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:13,361 The only real thing is if somehow Jack could keep 861 00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:15,739 his whole trunk outta the water. 862 00:35:15,739 --> 00:35:18,408 But, they did manage to find a stable position, 863 00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:21,411 with a little bit of trying, where their upper bodies 864 00:35:21,411 --> 00:35:22,954 were out of the water, both of them, 865 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,874 and that's when it got interesting. 866 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:34,090 Out of the water, that violent shaking was helping him. 867 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:37,052 His curve now was above the other two curves. 868 00:35:37,052 --> 00:35:42,265 And projecting it out, he coulda made it pretty long, like hours. 869 00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:47,145 But the interesting thing was, he's taking buoyancy from her, 870 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:49,689 getting into a threshold where he can live, 871 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:51,441 that's not affecting her. 872 00:35:51,441 --> 00:35:54,569 We saw that, that Kristen wasn't violently shaking 873 00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:56,112 the way he was. 874 00:35:56,112 --> 00:35:58,198 Her core was still in pretty good shape, 875 00:35:58,198 --> 00:35:59,574 because of all her insulation. 876 00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:03,078 But he never gets anywhere near up where she is. 877 00:36:03,078 --> 00:36:06,414 The best thing we came up with was them trying to keep their, 878 00:36:06,414 --> 00:36:08,541 their body out of the water, right? 879 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:10,251 Their, their core. 880 00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:11,795 I really learned something interesting here. 881 00:36:11,795 --> 00:36:13,713 Is when you shiver and shake like that underwater, 882 00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:16,132 it's conducting away heat very rapidly. 883 00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:17,926 But when you do it in air, above water, 884 00:36:17,926 --> 00:36:19,010 it's actually working for you. 885 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:21,054 Cold? 886 00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:24,933 And then survival time for him depends on him being 887 00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:26,684 able to keep shivering. 888 00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:28,812 Now remember you just have to do this for another hour. 889 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:31,481 If that plateau could have lasted long enough to get to 890 00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:33,483 where the boat came back to rescue them, 891 00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:35,193 he might have made it. 892 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:36,194 He has got a chance. 893 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,029 That's, that's all we can say. 894 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,574 But that sort of best-case scenario was kind of 895 00:36:41,574 --> 00:36:44,119 a fantasy, because they didn't really go through all 896 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,996 the stuff that our characters are seen doing before they got 897 00:36:46,996 --> 00:36:50,333 to that, they didn't just magically teleport themselves to the raft. 898 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:53,336 So now let's do the real test, let's put them 899 00:36:53,336 --> 00:36:55,922 through a simulation of all of the things that 900 00:36:55,922 --> 00:36:57,757 Jack and Rose went through. 901 00:36:57,757 --> 00:37:01,761 So we did exactly what, what they did, in the movie, 902 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:05,014 except that we doubled the time for every stage of it 903 00:37:05,014 --> 00:37:07,016 because our water wasn't as cold. 904 00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:12,272 Going into 28 degree water, and that just makes you gasp. 905 00:37:13,857 --> 00:37:16,609 And that's the cold shock, that accelerates the heart rate, 906 00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:18,236 constricts blood vessels so your blood pressure 907 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:19,738 goes up immediately... 908 00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:23,742 And a guy pushes her under... 909 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:25,827 One one thousand, two one thousand... 910 00:37:25,827 --> 00:37:27,162 Back up! 911 00:37:27,162 --> 00:37:29,122 One one thousand, two one thousand 912 00:37:29,122 --> 00:37:31,207 and Jack, save me! 913 00:37:31,207 --> 00:37:32,375 Jack! 914 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:33,752 Rose! 915 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,003 Jack swims over... 916 00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:36,004 Jack! 917 00:37:36,004 --> 00:37:37,964 And one... 918 00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:42,635 Two... 919 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:43,845 Three! 920 00:37:43,845 --> 00:37:45,180 All right, swim Rose! 921 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:47,098 And the faster your heart's beating, the faster 922 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:50,935 that cooling blood from your arms and legs is coming 923 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:53,521 into your core, taking your temperature down. 924 00:37:53,521 --> 00:37:55,523 So I was really curious to see what that did 925 00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:57,609 to Jack's situation. 926 00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,862 And it's pretty interesting. 927 00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:08,953 What we saw was that he got up on there and he immediately 928 00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:12,790 went into the really strong shaking shivering, right? 929 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:14,459 The two big factors. 930 00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:17,629 Still having enough dexterity and power in their limbs to get 931 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:18,630 onto the raft... 932 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:20,173 Right. 933 00:38:20,173 --> 00:38:22,884 And still being warm enough to actually shiver intensely. 934 00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:25,220 Now if she saw him shivering like that and that 935 00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:28,515 he was in worse shape than her, she might get the idea 936 00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:32,560 to give him the lifejacket as an insulator. 937 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,686 Wouldn't you try to help him? 938 00:38:33,686 --> 00:38:34,896 Oh, for sure! Okay. 939 00:38:34,896 --> 00:38:37,023 All right, let's go for that then. 940 00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,401 Number one is stability. 941 00:38:42,779 --> 00:38:44,822 Keep the balance, keep the balance... 942 00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:46,616 Yep. 943 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,160 All right. 944 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,249 He had a dramatic decrease initially after 945 00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:57,335 the swim and since he's been up here shivering aggressively 946 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,254 like this he's stabilizing somewhat, 947 00:38:59,254 --> 00:39:02,674 he's still coming down, but this is definitely a better... 948 00:39:02,674 --> 00:39:03,716 It's the knee in the curve. 949 00:39:03,716 --> 00:39:04,717 Yeah. Yeah. 950 00:39:04,717 --> 00:39:06,636 He went down, he went way down, 951 00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:09,138 he went way down to our baseline, 952 00:39:09,138 --> 00:39:13,017 which is our worst-case scenario with his body fully immersed. 953 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:16,145 So this is probably our most accurate line for what 954 00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:19,691 our characters are supposed to have experienced, and then 955 00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,443 he starts to inflect up and kind of stabilizes up kind of 956 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,946 halfway between our mid-case and our best-case. 957 00:39:24,946 --> 00:39:26,322 Yeah. 958 00:39:26,322 --> 00:39:28,616 He was shivering quite aggressively and that seemed 959 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:29,951 to protect him and he was actually... 960 00:39:29,951 --> 00:39:32,120 It looks almost like on the upswing. 961 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,332 And he pulled up a little bit and he stabilized. 962 00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:38,876 He got into a place where if we projected that out, 963 00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:42,589 he just might have made it until the lifeboat got there. 964 00:39:42,589 --> 00:39:44,716 But what's interesting is there's actually a, a, 965 00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:47,844 a precedent for it in the, in the history. 966 00:39:47,844 --> 00:39:52,849 There was a Chinese passenger who was found drifting on a, 967 00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:54,809 on a piece of wooden debris. 968 00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:56,352 We actually shot that scene. 969 00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:59,397 My assistant at the time was a guy named Van Ling, and I said, 970 00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:01,107 "Van, get in the water!" 971 00:40:01,107 --> 00:40:04,485 So Van got out there and was yelling in Mandarin to be rescued. 972 00:40:06,446 --> 00:40:08,448 Cold water! 973 00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:10,950 So and that's kinda what I based the whole Jack and Rose thing on, 974 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:13,161 it's like, okay, if you can get on a piece of wooden debris, 975 00:40:13,161 --> 00:40:14,621 you can live longer. 976 00:40:14,621 --> 00:40:16,789 Bring him in quickly! Aye, aye, sir! 977 00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:22,337 Final verdict, Jack might have lived... 978 00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:24,297 But there's a lot of variables. 979 00:40:24,297 --> 00:40:26,257 How much swell is there, how long does it take 980 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:27,967 the boat to get there... 981 00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:31,095 In a well-lit experiment in a test pool, we can't possibly 982 00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:34,307 simulate the terror, the adrenaline, 983 00:40:34,307 --> 00:40:37,226 all the things that would have worked against them. 984 00:40:37,226 --> 00:40:38,978 Get on it. 985 00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:40,813 Get on top. 986 00:40:42,023 --> 00:40:43,232 He couldn't have anticipated what 987 00:40:43,232 --> 00:40:45,485 we know today about hypothermia. 988 00:40:47,028 --> 00:40:49,447 He didn't get to run a bunch of different experiments 989 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,366 to see what worked the best. 990 00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:54,202 Jack's survival might have come at the price of her life. 991 00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:58,998 You know, there was a, a code of chivalry that men had in those days. 992 00:40:58,998 --> 00:41:00,249 Get on it. Stay on it. 993 00:41:00,249 --> 00:41:02,877 Add to it his individual character. 994 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:06,089 He's in love with her, a grand epic love, 995 00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:08,174 which is self-sacrificial. 996 00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:09,801 I think his thought process was, I'm not going to 997 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:12,011 do one thing that jeopardizes her. 998 00:41:12,011 --> 00:41:14,013 There's x amount of buoyancy. 999 00:41:14,013 --> 00:41:15,556 I'm not going to take any of it. 1000 00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:18,226 I'm not going to jeopardize her life. 1001 00:41:19,227 --> 00:41:21,229 And that's 100% in character. 1002 00:41:21,229 --> 00:41:22,814 Now we are talking about a fictional story, 1003 00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:24,524 I do want to remind people. 1004 00:41:24,524 --> 00:41:26,401 So based on what I know today I would've made 1005 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:27,652 the raft smaller... 1006 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:31,072 So there's no doubt. 1007 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,118 What can it tell us about the Titanic sinking? 1008 00:41:35,118 --> 00:41:36,327 Probably a lot. 1009 00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:37,829 If people are still interested in Titanic, 1010 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:39,706 and they want to see what we're doing here, 1011 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,833 they might learn something about hypothermia. 1012 00:41:41,833 --> 00:41:43,626 There might be one person out there, in the audience, 1013 00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:45,920 that remembers what they see and it actually saves their life. 1014 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,338 Who knows? 1015 00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:48,589 But if nothing else, it gives you an appreciation of 1016 00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:50,174 what those people went through. 1017 00:41:50,174 --> 00:41:53,177 You know, so, from my perspective it's about 1018 00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:55,304 preserving the history of Titanic, 1019 00:41:55,304 --> 00:41:57,014 understanding that it was a real event 1020 00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:59,559 that took place, and 1500 people died. 1021 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,602 And they died horribly and not the way people think. 1022 00:42:01,602 --> 00:42:02,562 Captioned by Cotter Media Group.