1 00:00:19,594 --> 00:00:21,077 Good morning, viewers. 2 00:00:21,077 --> 00:00:22,836 We're now live at the New York City Marathon 3 00:00:22,836 --> 00:00:25,801 where over two and a half million people gathered to watch the race. 4 00:00:27,008 --> 00:00:29,353 My goal for this marathon is simply to finish. 5 00:00:29,353 --> 00:00:30,767 If I can do it, you can do it. 6 00:00:32,422 --> 00:00:34,939 It was 2010. 7 00:00:34,939 --> 00:00:37,629 I had lost touch with Jared. 8 00:00:37,629 --> 00:00:42,491 He was tired of me not meeting him in person... 9 00:00:45,353 --> 00:00:49,698 But I never let my guard down because I was sure... 10 00:00:49,698 --> 00:00:53,043 that Jared Fogle was an active pedophile. 11 00:00:54,284 --> 00:00:58,560 So the public and my children were at risk. 12 00:01:03,146 --> 00:01:08,318 I wanted to warn people so people could protect their children 13 00:01:08,318 --> 00:01:10,008 You know, I speak to children all over the country, 14 00:01:10,008 --> 00:01:12,077 and actually, all over the world now. 15 00:01:12,077 --> 00:01:17,180 There were times that I just wanted to shout out over the airways. 16 00:01:25,698 --> 00:01:27,008 Sorry. 17 00:01:31,422 --> 00:01:33,870 Sorry. I didn't expect that. 18 00:01:39,008 --> 00:01:43,043 I was prevented from talking by the FBI. 19 00:01:43,043 --> 00:01:45,698 And I couldn't take it anymore. 20 00:01:50,146 --> 00:01:52,801 At this point, I went to the local authorities, 21 00:01:52,801 --> 00:01:54,663 the Sarasota Police Department. 22 00:01:58,767 --> 00:02:00,974 I turned in the FBI... 23 00:02:00,974 --> 00:02:05,594 for not doing their due diligence to close this case 24 00:02:05,594 --> 00:02:08,215 with the evidence that I had provided. I felt there was enough. 25 00:02:10,249 --> 00:02:12,180 It's kind of a bit of a crazy move, though, isn't it? 26 00:02:12,180 --> 00:02:14,180 You taking on the FBI? 27 00:02:14,180 --> 00:02:16,732 Doing the right thing is important to me. 28 00:02:16,732 --> 00:02:18,939 And that's what I thought I was doing. 29 00:02:26,732 --> 00:02:28,801 My name is Chris Catanzaro. 30 00:02:30,353 --> 00:02:34,629 I used to be a detective with the Sarasota City Police Department. 31 00:02:42,353 --> 00:02:45,594 On May 13th, 2010, 32 00:02:45,594 --> 00:02:48,594 Miss. Rochelle Herman came in to the station. 33 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:54,318 I spoke with her about Jared Fogle. 34 00:02:54,318 --> 00:03:01,043 Her chief concern at that time was that he was gonna hurt children, including her own. 35 00:03:01,043 --> 00:03:05,146 And she felt like we needed to get this guy off the street. 36 00:03:05,146 --> 00:03:10,043 She had already contacted the FBI, felt that it wasn't moving fast enough. 37 00:03:10,043 --> 00:03:15,698 And I think she wanted an audience to believe her and do something. 38 00:03:15,698 --> 00:03:21,594 My firsts concern was, is this a person that's enamored with a celebrity. 39 00:03:23,111 --> 00:03:26,043 And then she showed us her evidence. 40 00:03:26,043 --> 00:03:31,146 She had phone recordings, all kinds of information in reference to Mr. Fogle. 41 00:04:01,870 --> 00:04:03,249 Don't know? No. 42 00:04:06,422 --> 00:04:10,249 When I listened to Rochelle's tapes, I was shocked. 43 00:04:10,249 --> 00:04:14,387 I genuinely was shocked, because he comes across as a clean-cut guy. 44 00:04:14,387 --> 00:04:17,111 But, predators come in many shapes, forms, 45 00:04:17,111 --> 00:04:21,146 and oftentimes, it can be people that we have a lot of respect for. 46 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:25,905 I was very disturbed. I was concerned... 47 00:04:25,905 --> 00:04:29,284 that there could be a possibility that this man was going to do things. 48 00:04:33,146 --> 00:04:36,146 But because Mr. Fogle lived out of state, 49 00:04:36,146 --> 00:04:40,111 there'd been, as I knew, no crime committed in Sarasota. 50 00:04:40,111 --> 00:04:42,939 So we really couldn't do any kind of arrest. 51 00:04:44,318 --> 00:04:46,284 But we did take her seriously... 52 00:04:47,732 --> 00:04:51,077 And I spoke with Agent Billings at the FBI, 53 00:04:51,077 --> 00:04:55,836 and she did verify that there was an active investigation concerning Mr. Fogle. 54 00:04:58,111 --> 00:05:00,422 I was there for several hours. 55 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,043 I told the detectives, 56 00:05:04,043 --> 00:05:06,698 "I'm going to play my tapes on my radio show." 57 00:05:08,215 --> 00:05:12,974 I was going to reveal who Jared was, 58 00:05:12,974 --> 00:05:15,387 if they didn't do anything. 59 00:05:17,077 --> 00:05:19,663 I told her, "Don't do that. That would not be a good idea." 60 00:05:19,663 --> 00:05:22,560 Broadcasting something like that can be very harmful to an investigation. 61 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,629 Number one, it can scare the suspect off. 62 00:05:25,629 --> 00:05:29,387 And number two, it could cause problems for her. 63 00:05:29,387 --> 00:05:32,801 Somebody could come after her and maybe physically hurt her. 64 00:05:34,491 --> 00:05:38,767 I was frustrated and incredibly disappointed. 65 00:05:38,767 --> 00:05:43,698 But I agreed not to share the tapes publicly. 66 00:05:46,284 --> 00:05:50,560 I was allowed to leave the police station. 67 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,318 And my head is just spinning. 68 00:05:55,456 --> 00:05:57,008 I felt as though... 69 00:05:59,249 --> 00:06:00,801 I am being watched. 70 00:06:03,318 --> 00:06:06,870 My wanting to turn evidence on the FBI, 71 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:10,732 was I now someone to be questioned? 72 00:06:12,801 --> 00:06:14,249 Am I a loose cannon? 73 00:06:14,249 --> 00:06:17,284 Was... I someone not to be trusted? 74 00:06:17,284 --> 00:06:20,491 Was that a level of paranoia, or was there truth to that? 75 00:06:21,594 --> 00:06:22,594 I don't know. 76 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:29,663 One evening I was on the air. 77 00:06:31,905 --> 00:06:36,318 It was about quarter to eleven or so, my show was about to end. 78 00:06:36,318 --> 00:06:37,249 And... 79 00:06:39,249 --> 00:06:40,905 There's two guys bangin' on the door. 80 00:06:43,284 --> 00:06:45,732 They had black suits with black sunglasses on. 81 00:06:47,043 --> 00:06:48,560 It was right out of the movies. 82 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,905 It was the 'men in black'. 83 00:06:50,905 --> 00:06:54,353 The FBI, they show me their badges. 84 00:06:54,353 --> 00:06:56,594 And I said, "Can I help you guys?" 85 00:06:56,594 --> 00:06:58,801 They said, "Rochelle Herman, please." 86 00:06:58,801 --> 00:07:00,560 And they're like, "Who the hell are you?" 87 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,905 I said, "I'm the station manager." 88 00:07:02,905 --> 00:07:04,870 And I'm on the air for another 15 minutes. 89 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:08,043 "Thank you, we'll be back." And they turned and walked in unison. 90 00:07:08,043 --> 00:07:10,491 It was bizarre. I'd never seen anything like that. 91 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,836 So we wrapped up and zoomed across the street, 92 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:18,318 and we watched from a bar. 93 00:07:18,318 --> 00:07:20,870 They were up there for almost two hours. 94 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:23,353 They took computers, they took boxes, 95 00:07:23,353 --> 00:07:26,387 they took stacks of printed out emails and texts. 96 00:07:26,387 --> 00:07:27,905 And they took a lot of stuff. 97 00:07:29,008 --> 00:07:34,077 The FBI, they raided the radio station. 98 00:07:34,077 --> 00:07:40,629 They raided my home to collect anything that I may not have turned over. 99 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:43,456 They knew that I could tell the public at any moment 100 00:07:43,456 --> 00:07:45,043 about Jared. 101 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:49,353 The FBI told me to stay quiet 102 00:07:49,353 --> 00:07:55,077 or I would be charged with impeding an on-going investigation. 103 00:07:55,077 --> 00:07:56,663 So I did. 104 00:07:56,663 --> 00:07:59,077 I had to step back. I had to become a ghost. 105 00:08:11,594 --> 00:08:15,594 The toll that working undercover for the FBI... 106 00:08:15,594 --> 00:08:18,663 had on my health was astronomical. 107 00:08:20,456 --> 00:08:24,491 The PTSD that I have experienced because of this, 108 00:08:24,491 --> 00:08:26,387 um, has been debilitating. 109 00:08:28,353 --> 00:08:31,629 I truly believe that... 110 00:08:31,629 --> 00:08:36,456 when someone undergoes such a stressful situation for so many years, 111 00:08:36,456 --> 00:08:39,353 it makes you susceptible to other things. 112 00:08:41,836 --> 00:08:45,836 In the fall of 2012, 113 00:08:45,836 --> 00:08:49,560 I was diagnosed with reflex sympathetic dystrophy, 114 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:52,422 known as suicide disease, 115 00:08:52,422 --> 00:08:57,905 because it is the most painful chronic disease known to man. 116 00:09:00,422 --> 00:09:05,663 I was on incredible amounts of painkillers... 117 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:09,215 ...and medications. 118 00:09:11,111 --> 00:09:13,905 My entire life changed. 119 00:09:13,905 --> 00:09:15,594 It cost me my career. 120 00:09:17,594 --> 00:09:20,767 I felt bad for Rochelle because she's a beautiful person. 121 00:09:20,767 --> 00:09:22,353 And she was in pretty bad shape. 122 00:09:24,663 --> 00:09:27,836 Seeing what she became, it was hard. 123 00:09:27,836 --> 00:09:31,043 The pain and all the stress, 124 00:09:31,043 --> 00:09:32,422 and everything that's happened, 125 00:09:32,422 --> 00:09:34,732 she's completely different from who she was. 126 00:09:37,732 --> 00:09:39,732 It was a struggle every day. 127 00:09:39,732 --> 00:09:44,111 And I see Jared... living a wonderful life. 128 00:09:47,456 --> 00:09:50,111 - And he just got married. Congratulations. - Thank you very much. 129 00:09:50,111 --> 00:09:53,146 Yeah, it's been great so far. My first trip back on the road after being married. 130 00:09:53,146 --> 00:09:54,318 So, that's awesome. 131 00:09:54,318 --> 00:09:57,663 Jared was married to Katie McLaughlin. 132 00:09:57,663 --> 00:09:59,767 She seemed very nice, very sweet. 133 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:04,077 From the outside, to me, their relationship was simple. 134 00:10:04,077 --> 00:10:08,663 Katie was very much the housewife, taking care of the kids. 135 00:10:08,663 --> 00:10:11,525 Jared was out making the money. 136 00:10:11,525 --> 00:10:13,905 This holiday season, Subway is celebrating you! 137 00:10:13,905 --> 00:10:16,491 Customer appreciation is back! 138 00:10:16,491 --> 00:10:21,077 But 2013, Jared had made about 300 commercials, 139 00:10:21,077 --> 00:10:23,732 and was worth 15 million dollars. 140 00:10:23,732 --> 00:10:26,146 Jared, Jared, I am your biggest fan. 141 00:10:26,146 --> 00:10:28,939 - You know, you're more handsome in person. - Thank you. 142 00:10:28,939 --> 00:10:31,387 Ever since the Prince of Jared commercial, 143 00:10:31,387 --> 00:10:35,974 I have followed everything that he has done ever since. 144 00:10:35,974 --> 00:10:37,353 How are you, buddy? 145 00:10:37,353 --> 00:10:39,594 I was very happy for him. 146 00:10:39,594 --> 00:10:42,008 He seemed very humble, 147 00:10:42,008 --> 00:10:45,387 he didn't seem like he thought he was better than anybody else. 148 00:10:45,387 --> 00:10:47,387 He treated everybody with respect. 149 00:10:47,387 --> 00:10:49,249 ...how are you? 150 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:52,491 He was just, uh, just a nice guy. 151 00:10:52,491 --> 00:10:55,732 - Over 200 pounds... - ...for 15 years... 152 00:10:55,732 --> 00:10:57,905 - Bravo! - Take a bow, Jared. 153 00:11:12,008 --> 00:11:13,732 My name's Chuck Cohen. 154 00:11:15,284 --> 00:11:17,732 I was a Captain at the Indiana State Police. 155 00:11:20,215 --> 00:11:23,111 In mid to late 2014, I received a phone call from 156 00:11:23,111 --> 00:11:24,905 an Indiana State Trooper that I knew. 157 00:11:24,905 --> 00:11:29,249 He said that he had a friend who had been in communication 158 00:11:29,249 --> 00:11:32,698 with a man sending images that depicted bestiality. 159 00:11:34,215 --> 00:11:38,974 I made the decision to ask a investigator to get more information. 160 00:11:42,387 --> 00:11:46,387 Investigators uncovered electronic communication about sexual contact 161 00:11:46,387 --> 00:11:47,870 with an animal. 162 00:11:51,594 --> 00:11:53,491 At the time in Indiana, 163 00:11:53,491 --> 00:11:58,043 the possession of images and videos that depict bestiality is not a crime. 164 00:11:58,043 --> 00:12:00,767 But the actual act of bestiality, that would be unlawful. 165 00:12:03,939 --> 00:12:06,629 Investigators determine that the electronic communication... 166 00:12:08,491 --> 00:12:11,146 ...was sent by Russell Taylor. 167 00:12:11,146 --> 00:12:14,663 Russell Taylor at the time was employed as executive director 168 00:12:14,663 --> 00:12:19,491 of the Jared Foundation owned and run by Jared Fogle, the Subway guy. 169 00:12:27,353 --> 00:12:30,939 Investigators serve a search warrant at Russell Taylor's house 170 00:12:30,939 --> 00:12:34,525 to collect evidence associated with bestiality. 171 00:12:34,525 --> 00:12:39,215 He was living in a, uh, very nice house in Central Indiana. 172 00:12:39,215 --> 00:12:46,008 By all external appearances, he was a very average upper-middle class person. 173 00:12:46,008 --> 00:12:48,939 Russell Taylor didn't have any criminal history whatsoever 174 00:12:48,939 --> 00:12:50,629 that we were aware of. 175 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:55,215 Investigators did find images of an adult female 176 00:12:55,215 --> 00:12:57,870 in contact with an animal. 177 00:12:57,870 --> 00:13:01,939 And they identify the person in the images as Angie Taylor, 178 00:13:01,939 --> 00:13:03,077 Russell Taylor's wife. 179 00:13:05,836 --> 00:13:09,974 During the course of the search of Russell Taylor's house, 180 00:13:09,974 --> 00:13:14,387 investigators inadvertently discovered... hidden cameras... 181 00:13:17,043 --> 00:13:19,456 ...built into things that look like something else, like a clock... 182 00:13:21,215 --> 00:13:23,146 ...in places like children's bedrooms. 183 00:13:36,111 --> 00:13:39,594 When he was interviewed by investigators one of the things Russell told them 184 00:13:39,594 --> 00:13:42,629 was he placed the cameras there, um, to prevent theft.,, 185 00:13:44,111 --> 00:13:46,698 But the location of the cameras 186 00:13:46,698 --> 00:13:49,732 was inconsistent with what Russell Taylor's said. 187 00:13:49,732 --> 00:13:53,767 They were pointed towards places that were intimate to children. 188 00:13:53,767 --> 00:13:58,422 Placed towards beds, trying to record children when they were unclothed. 189 00:14:00,974 --> 00:14:02,491 One of the things investigators found 190 00:14:02,491 --> 00:14:06,180 were videos that appeared to be produced by those cameras... 191 00:14:07,698 --> 00:14:09,491 ...of children undressed, 192 00:14:09,491 --> 00:14:12,629 of children involved in some cases, in sex acts. 193 00:14:14,491 --> 00:14:17,422 Investigators see horrible things. 194 00:14:17,422 --> 00:14:21,560 In my experience, the videos that stick with me the most... 195 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,146 are the ones where I've heard the audio. 196 00:14:25,525 --> 00:14:28,422 It's hearing the fear in the child's voice. 197 00:14:30,456 --> 00:14:32,077 The only thing that surpasses that 198 00:14:32,077 --> 00:14:34,456 is the horrors that the children themselves experience. 199 00:14:37,525 --> 00:14:40,767 When a child is the victim of production of child pornography, 200 00:14:40,767 --> 00:14:43,801 that will follow the child for their entire life. 201 00:14:46,353 --> 00:14:48,698 After Russell was arrested, 202 00:14:48,698 --> 00:14:51,249 we had to talk to the FBI. 203 00:14:51,249 --> 00:14:57,249 I was a very traumatic... frozen state. 204 00:14:57,249 --> 00:14:59,974 I couldn't even believe what was happening to me. 205 00:15:01,663 --> 00:15:04,422 They sat me down and told me... 206 00:15:04,422 --> 00:15:06,491 that there were cameras all throughout the house. 207 00:15:08,422 --> 00:15:13,146 They were everywhere. Russell, he was watching us. 208 00:15:13,146 --> 00:15:15,456 In the shower, watching us get dressed in our rooms, 209 00:15:15,456 --> 00:15:16,629 watching us masturbate. 210 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,422 We were being watched 24/7. 211 00:15:22,284 --> 00:15:25,767 You just feel so dirty when you find something out like that. You just... 212 00:15:27,387 --> 00:15:31,353 It's just really hard to accept that that even happened. 213 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,111 And the FBI showed us still images 214 00:15:37,111 --> 00:15:40,043 of just our faces... 215 00:15:40,043 --> 00:15:42,422 The rest of the bodies were blocked out. 216 00:15:42,422 --> 00:15:46,456 I identified myself, I identified my sister. 217 00:15:46,456 --> 00:15:50,491 And then I had to identify some of my... closest friends. 218 00:15:52,732 --> 00:15:56,905 I think I was starting to reconcile... 219 00:15:56,905 --> 00:15:59,491 what was really going on. 220 00:15:59,491 --> 00:16:02,767 Everything that ever happened with Russell... 221 00:16:02,767 --> 00:16:04,594 finally made sense. 222 00:16:16,215 --> 00:16:18,422 When our mom met Russell Taylor, 223 00:16:18,422 --> 00:16:22,698 I was about ten, and Christian would have been about 13. 224 00:16:22,698 --> 00:16:25,249 It looked like we we all were doing well. 225 00:16:25,249 --> 00:16:30,111 We were going on vacations, we were moving on up in the world. 226 00:16:30,111 --> 00:16:33,008 But all of that was a facade, 227 00:16:33,008 --> 00:16:36,387 because our lives really started to take a turn for the worst. 228 00:16:39,146 --> 00:16:42,905 Your average teenager will get in trouble for drinking underage, 229 00:16:42,905 --> 00:16:45,215 and smoking weed. 230 00:16:45,215 --> 00:16:47,043 But it wasn't like that for us. 231 00:16:47,043 --> 00:16:52,870 I was being introduced to all of that by my mom and Russell. 232 00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:56,629 We're throwing these parties and it's normal. 233 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:58,629 They want us to, they encouraged us to. 234 00:17:03,491 --> 00:17:07,249 You don't know the difference between what is right and what is wrong 235 00:17:07,249 --> 00:17:11,353 because a trusted source who is supposed to be your parent, 236 00:17:11,353 --> 00:17:13,732 is telling you that it's okay. 237 00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:18,387 - You know. - The common quote in our home was, 238 00:17:18,387 --> 00:17:20,870 "Age is just a number." 239 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:24,525 As long as you're mature enough to do it, you're gonna do it. 240 00:17:24,525 --> 00:17:29,732 I think that was... the seed that was planted. 241 00:17:29,732 --> 00:17:32,353 And that began the grooming process for us. 242 00:17:34,663 --> 00:17:37,732 Allowing us to drink and smoke and party, 243 00:17:37,732 --> 00:17:40,870 made us vulnerable to talk about... 244 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:42,594 sexual things. 245 00:17:44,732 --> 00:17:47,284 It didn't even have to be about you or I. 246 00:17:47,284 --> 00:17:50,318 It was about them. 247 00:17:50,318 --> 00:17:54,560 My mom's attitude to sexual behavior, 248 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,353 it went from zero to a hundred. 249 00:17:57,663 --> 00:18:02,111 She would leave the room after giving Russell oral and come... 250 00:18:02,111 --> 00:18:05,318 tell me about it. Like, it was just very open. 251 00:18:07,767 --> 00:18:10,318 I remember I was 12 at the time, 252 00:18:10,318 --> 00:18:14,422 and Russell was telling me, "You should be having sex." 253 00:18:14,422 --> 00:18:16,284 You know, "You should be exploring your body." 254 00:18:16,284 --> 00:18:19,008 And I told him, no. 255 00:18:19,008 --> 00:18:22,767 And he proceeded to kind of make fun of me 256 00:18:22,767 --> 00:18:24,456 'cause I hadn't done those things. 257 00:18:26,663 --> 00:18:28,767 One day Russell texted me. 258 00:18:28,767 --> 00:18:32,525 He said, "Hey, I left something on your bed." 259 00:18:32,525 --> 00:18:35,870 I went up there and... there was a... dildo! 260 00:18:37,318 --> 00:18:40,318 And the computer pulled up with porn! 261 00:18:45,008 --> 00:18:47,077 It freaked me out. 262 00:18:47,077 --> 00:18:52,836 He's leaving this for me, so what am I supposed to do! 263 00:18:52,836 --> 00:18:57,974 I think Russell was doing all these things to catch us on camera. 264 00:18:57,974 --> 00:19:00,698 Literally setting up scenes... 265 00:19:02,111 --> 00:19:04,422 ...to put into his film. 266 00:19:06,318 --> 00:19:09,491 Russell Taylor is accused of recording underaged girls 267 00:19:09,491 --> 00:19:12,077 without their knowledge to produce porn. 268 00:19:12,077 --> 00:19:14,491 Taylor was in some of the images. 269 00:19:15,939 --> 00:19:19,836 When Russell Taylor was arrested in 2015, 270 00:19:19,836 --> 00:19:24,594 both Jared Fogle and Subway Corporation, uh, released statements. 271 00:19:24,594 --> 00:19:28,249 The statement that Jared Fogle released was... 272 00:19:28,249 --> 00:19:32,422 "I was shocked to learn of the disturbing allegations against Mr. Taylor. 273 00:19:32,422 --> 00:19:36,560 "Affect from immediately the Jared Foundation severed all ties with Mr. Taylor." 274 00:19:38,215 --> 00:19:40,525 The statement from Subway was... 275 00:19:40,525 --> 00:19:43,180 "We don't have any affiliation with the Foundation 276 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:46,146 "and we were disgusted to hear about these claims. 277 00:19:46,146 --> 00:19:51,594 "We're glad Jared took quick action to severe all his ties with Mr. Taylor." 278 00:19:51,594 --> 00:19:57,008 I'm sure Subway was very concerned the day Russell Taylor was arrested. 279 00:19:57,008 --> 00:20:00,525 And I'm sure somebody somewhere at Subway just said... 280 00:20:00,525 --> 00:20:03,801 "God, please, don't let Jared Fogle be involved in this." 281 00:20:03,801 --> 00:20:07,249 What an inspiration! Subway, eat fresh. 282 00:20:10,387 --> 00:20:12,180 Through the course of the investigation, 283 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:15,284 investigators found thousands of text messages. 284 00:20:17,077 --> 00:20:20,629 And also numerous images and videos of children... 285 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,974 The image was horrible. 286 00:20:25,974 --> 00:20:30,422 Investigators were able to identify 12 victims. 287 00:20:32,387 --> 00:20:34,698 One of the things investigators were able to recover 288 00:20:34,698 --> 00:20:39,111 is Russell Taylor sent a image of a naked child 289 00:20:39,111 --> 00:20:42,353 to Jared Fogle. 290 00:20:42,353 --> 00:20:46,284 Russell Taylor, when interviewed told investigators 291 00:20:46,284 --> 00:20:51,008 Jared Fogle had actually gone out to dinner with that child victim. 292 00:20:53,663 --> 00:20:56,594 Jared Fogle had the option of calling the police. 293 00:20:56,594 --> 00:20:58,836 He could have told Russell Taylor, 294 00:20:58,836 --> 00:21:01,146 "I don't want this Don't send anymore." 295 00:21:01,146 --> 00:21:02,318 Or he could've done what he did. 296 00:21:12,077 --> 00:21:13,801 My name is Steven Debrota. 297 00:21:13,801 --> 00:21:18,077 Back in 2014, I was an assistant US attorney. 298 00:21:18,077 --> 00:21:22,974 When I saw the text message that featured a minor he knew in real life... 299 00:21:22,974 --> 00:21:26,077 ...we began the investigation of Jared Fogle. 300 00:21:26,077 --> 00:21:29,387 If there's one piece of evidence like that, there could be more. 301 00:21:31,043 --> 00:21:33,974 Russell Taylor, when interviewed, claimed 302 00:21:33,974 --> 00:21:36,077 that some, some of his criminal behavior was motivated 303 00:21:36,077 --> 00:21:40,732 by a desire to produce child pornography for Jared Fogle. 304 00:21:40,732 --> 00:21:43,422 We know from other communications that at one point 305 00:21:43,422 --> 00:21:46,767 a thumb drive and a laptop computer containing child pornography, 306 00:21:46,767 --> 00:21:48,318 both commercial and homemade, 307 00:21:48,318 --> 00:21:51,974 was given from Russell Taylor to Jared Fogle. 308 00:21:51,974 --> 00:21:56,008 So we develop enough information to get a search warrant for Jared's home. 309 00:21:58,732 --> 00:22:00,870 So the morning of July 7th... 310 00:22:02,284 --> 00:22:04,525 ...investigators met at about five o'clock in the morning. 311 00:22:06,387 --> 00:22:10,387 Most of the officers were not aware of the location they were gonna search. 312 00:22:10,387 --> 00:22:14,767 Our entire goal was to do this as discreetly as possible 313 00:22:14,767 --> 00:22:17,801 with as little media attention as possible. 314 00:22:17,801 --> 00:22:19,456 Uh, that was unsuccessful. 315 00:22:21,146 --> 00:22:23,732 Developing story out of Indiana... 316 00:22:23,732 --> 00:22:29,008 FBI agents raiding the home of Subway spokesman, Jared Fogle. 317 00:22:29,008 --> 00:22:31,387 I'm shocked to say the least. 318 00:22:31,387 --> 00:22:33,456 When I first saw that something was happening with Jared. 319 00:22:33,456 --> 00:22:36,008 Over the 25 years of my career, 320 00:22:36,008 --> 00:22:39,663 there was more media attention at this than any other investigation. 321 00:22:39,663 --> 00:22:42,560 You know, people flocked their cameras from TV. 322 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,180 Our reporters, our photographers. It was a classic media circus. 323 00:22:47,180 --> 00:22:51,043 I don't think anyone understood the full scope of what was going on. 324 00:22:51,043 --> 00:22:55,353 But when the truth came out, it shocked the nation to its core. 325 00:23:11,836 --> 00:23:15,215 I received a phone call from a friend of mine. 326 00:23:15,215 --> 00:23:17,456 "You need to turn on the news now." 327 00:23:17,456 --> 00:23:19,698 Investigators start at around 6:30 in the morning. 328 00:23:19,698 --> 00:23:22,836 they went through the home. In fact, we see a video of them coming out 329 00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,180 with hard drives and computers. 330 00:23:25,180 --> 00:23:28,525 Jared's house was being raided. 331 00:23:29,836 --> 00:23:32,905 I was shocked. Oh, my gosh. It's actually happening. 332 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:37,422 I just don't think the FBI raids people for no reason. 333 00:23:37,422 --> 00:23:41,387 Only thing I ever see around this home are happy people 334 00:23:41,387 --> 00:23:43,801 doing their yard, waving. 335 00:23:43,801 --> 00:23:47,077 So I'm shocked and upset, of course, and saddened. 336 00:23:47,077 --> 00:23:48,939 The FBI will only say that 337 00:23:48,939 --> 00:23:51,836 an investigation is taking place in Zionville. 338 00:23:53,456 --> 00:23:54,698 Jared, you got anything to say? 339 00:23:56,008 --> 00:23:58,077 We wanna stress that he is not being arrested. 340 00:23:58,077 --> 00:24:01,767 He has not been charged, but again, it is an on-going investigation. 341 00:24:03,284 --> 00:24:05,525 Investigators found digital devices. 342 00:24:05,525 --> 00:24:09,560 Cellphones, USB drives, several computers. 343 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,043 5.6 terabytes of information had to be reviewed... 344 00:24:14,043 --> 00:24:16,456 ...to see whether or not there was other evidence 345 00:24:16,456 --> 00:24:17,801 or other crimes were committed. 346 00:24:19,767 --> 00:24:22,836 That very day that the news broke, 347 00:24:23,974 --> 00:24:28,698 I contacted our local station, ABC7. 348 00:24:28,698 --> 00:24:32,111 I felt it was important to get my story out there 349 00:24:32,111 --> 00:24:35,180 and reveal the monster behind the doors. 350 00:24:38,387 --> 00:24:41,043 I remember my assignment manager saying, 351 00:24:41,043 --> 00:24:43,215 "Max, I may have something for you." 352 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:48,422 And she tells me about this woman who tipped off the FBI 353 00:24:48,422 --> 00:24:53,180 on Jared Fogle and something to do with child pornography. 354 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:57,284 And I'm like, okay, is this just some kook woman trying to, to get attention. 355 00:24:58,870 --> 00:25:03,836 So, I call Rochelle, and she tells me her story. 356 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:07,939 I didn't know whether to trust this woman. 357 00:25:07,939 --> 00:25:12,456 So I am contacting sources and I will say, 358 00:25:12,456 --> 00:25:16,491 I felt very comfortable that she was telling the truth. 359 00:25:16,491 --> 00:25:20,525 So, we did an interview with her. 360 00:25:20,525 --> 00:25:25,663 Did he mention to you that he in fact did have relations with, with underage children? 361 00:25:25,663 --> 00:25:27,836 Yes, he did. Yes, he did. 362 00:25:27,836 --> 00:25:31,008 Jared Fogle to you is what? 363 00:25:31,008 --> 00:25:32,525 Is a monster. 364 00:25:34,629 --> 00:25:37,387 When Rochelle's news broke, I didn't believe it at first. 365 00:25:37,387 --> 00:25:39,077 I thought it wasn't true. 366 00:25:39,077 --> 00:25:43,905 Because Jared Fogle was considered one of the most trusted people in the country. 367 00:25:43,905 --> 00:25:47,974 In the public's eye I think people were still siding with Fogle 368 00:25:47,974 --> 00:25:49,387 and believing that he'd been duped. 369 00:25:50,767 --> 00:25:52,836 A lot of cases involving famous people 370 00:25:52,836 --> 00:25:54,353 don't go the right way. 371 00:25:54,353 --> 00:25:59,111 In his particular case, he had fame and he has money. 372 00:25:59,111 --> 00:26:02,939 So, we had the concern that Fogle was gonna be one more celebrity 373 00:26:02,939 --> 00:26:04,249 that would get away with it. 374 00:26:06,905 --> 00:26:08,767 Everyone's still waiting for investigators 375 00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:12,594 to give some comments about what they may have found during this investigation. 376 00:26:14,491 --> 00:26:16,560 After the search of his residence, 377 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,215 we had to do painstaking analysis 378 00:26:19,215 --> 00:26:21,456 of what digital evidence was there. 379 00:26:21,456 --> 00:26:26,215 My conclusion was that Jared Fogle was fully involved in criminal activity 380 00:26:26,215 --> 00:26:27,629 with Russell Taylor. 381 00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:30,318 My question was, was I gonna be able to hold him accountable 382 00:26:30,318 --> 00:26:32,732 for the totality of what he did. 383 00:26:32,732 --> 00:26:36,629 And that wasn't clear to me until we saw all of the text messages that we got 384 00:26:36,629 --> 00:26:38,215 as a result of searching his house. 385 00:26:39,974 --> 00:26:41,318 The texts showed 386 00:26:41,318 --> 00:26:44,077 Jared Fogle was very good at maintaining his double life. 387 00:26:46,801 --> 00:26:51,146 He would travel around the United States for Subway. 388 00:26:51,146 --> 00:26:53,663 We know he was in Las Vegas, 389 00:26:53,663 --> 00:26:57,560 Florida, and New York City. 390 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,111 But when he's not in public, 391 00:27:00,111 --> 00:27:02,870 when he's by himself in the hotel room... 392 00:27:04,387 --> 00:27:07,698 Jared Fogle spent 12,000 a year on sex-workers. 393 00:27:14,732 --> 00:27:19,146 Then he would ask if they had access to any underage prostituting minors. 394 00:27:25,387 --> 00:27:29,974 He successfully had sex with prostituting minors on multiple occasions... 395 00:27:33,387 --> 00:27:36,077 ...at the Plaza Hotel, just off Central Park 396 00:27:36,077 --> 00:27:38,732 and also at the Ritz Carlton in Manhattan. 397 00:27:43,387 --> 00:27:46,560 The two prostituting minors in New York were sixteen years of age, 398 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,836 and we call that, travelling over a Stateline to engage in unlawful sex with a minor. 399 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:53,387 That's a federal crime. 400 00:27:53,387 --> 00:27:58,525 So, at the end of the day we charged him with conspiring with Russell Taylor 401 00:27:58,525 --> 00:28:01,836 to distribute and receive child pornography. 402 00:28:01,836 --> 00:28:05,594 And also, victimizing prostituted minors in New York. 403 00:28:07,008 --> 00:28:09,560 Jared Fogle was searched in July of 2015, 404 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,249 and he was pleading guilty by August. 405 00:28:12,249 --> 00:28:13,525 The face of Subway 406 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:15,698 has gone from being famous to being infamous 407 00:28:15,698 --> 00:28:17,284 for something much more sinister. 408 00:28:17,284 --> 00:28:21,594 Jared Fogle pleading guilty to child pornography charges, 409 00:28:21,594 --> 00:28:23,698 and other shocking sex crimes. 410 00:28:23,698 --> 00:28:27,491 He paid to have sex with victims that he knew were kids. 411 00:28:27,491 --> 00:28:29,215 Hey, Jared... 412 00:28:29,215 --> 00:28:33,732 When Jared Fogle first pleaded guilty, it sent shock waves. 413 00:28:33,732 --> 00:28:35,422 No one could believe it. 414 00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:38,629 What we were able to determine was there were 14 victims 415 00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:43,008 and all of them were subjected to very serious federal crimes. 416 00:28:45,456 --> 00:28:49,560 The guy on the radio said, "Big trouble for Jared from Subway." 417 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,077 And I listened to him, and I'm like, "Oh, my God. They got him. They got him." 418 00:28:53,077 --> 00:28:55,077 Let's call this what it is. 419 00:28:55,077 --> 00:28:58,663 This is about using wealth, status and secrecy 420 00:28:58,663 --> 00:29:01,939 to illegally exploit children. 421 00:29:01,939 --> 00:29:04,180 We were just shocked. 422 00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:09,284 We just couldn't comprehend that, that this story was really true. 423 00:29:09,284 --> 00:29:12,491 He had a family, he had children. 424 00:29:12,491 --> 00:29:15,870 And then to just throw it away like that, is just... 425 00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:17,939 It makes me angry and it makes me sad. 426 00:29:19,456 --> 00:29:21,456 I felt sick to my stomach. 427 00:29:21,456 --> 00:29:24,284 I felt weird about knowing the guy. 428 00:29:24,284 --> 00:29:25,870 It was just horrible. 429 00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:31,180 And I felt for all of the victims and the people involved. 430 00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:33,318 Jared, is there anything you want to say? 431 00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:36,560 His wife immediately filed for divorce. 432 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,318 She also asked for custody of their two children. 433 00:29:39,318 --> 00:29:41,422 And she denounced him in public. 434 00:29:41,422 --> 00:29:44,698 Breaking news story regarding former Subway spokesman, Jared Fogle. 435 00:29:44,698 --> 00:29:46,663 And just moments ago, Katie McLaughlin 436 00:29:46,663 --> 00:29:48,629 spoke publicly for the first time ever. 437 00:29:48,629 --> 00:29:50,491 Find out that your husband 438 00:29:50,491 --> 00:29:53,215 and the father of your children is a child predator 439 00:29:53,215 --> 00:29:55,180 is devastating. 440 00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:57,663 ...were among her claims that Subway was alerted 441 00:29:57,663 --> 00:30:01,905 at least three times to Jared's possible sexual attraction to children 442 00:30:01,905 --> 00:30:03,974 and did nothing about it. 443 00:30:03,974 --> 00:30:07,801 Finding out that Subway did not act upon at least one complaint 444 00:30:07,801 --> 00:30:09,939 is beyond comprehension. 445 00:30:09,939 --> 00:30:13,422 Did Subway cover it up? I don't know. 446 00:30:13,422 --> 00:30:19,043 I think the more logical reasoning here is that 447 00:30:19,043 --> 00:30:25,663 Subway just did not find the allegations truthful. 448 00:30:25,663 --> 00:30:29,387 Subway says it found just one serious complaint 449 00:30:29,387 --> 00:30:31,456 about its former spokesperson, Jared Fogle. 450 00:30:31,456 --> 00:30:34,525 But it wasn't connected to any sexual misconduct. 451 00:30:34,525 --> 00:30:37,111 Subway has now closed it's investigation. 452 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:40,284 You can't help but wonder, 453 00:30:40,284 --> 00:30:45,111 did Jared Fogle get away with his crimes for so long 454 00:30:45,111 --> 00:30:47,767 because of his fame? 455 00:30:47,767 --> 00:30:50,284 We may not ever know the full story. 456 00:30:52,456 --> 00:30:55,249 Today, former Subway spokesperson, Jared Fogle, 457 00:30:55,249 --> 00:30:58,767 will be sentenced on federal charges of possession of child pornography 458 00:30:58,767 --> 00:31:00,387 and having sex with a minor. 459 00:31:00,387 --> 00:31:04,146 Charges that carry a penalty between five and fifty years in federal prison. 460 00:31:05,525 --> 00:31:07,284 A literal media frenzy is on hand... 461 00:31:07,284 --> 00:31:09,560 awaiting former Subway spokesman, Jared Fogle. 462 00:31:11,111 --> 00:31:13,560 What do you wanna say to the families of these victims? 463 00:31:17,422 --> 00:31:21,353 The betrayal of the public's trust triggered interest in the case. 464 00:31:21,353 --> 00:31:22,836 As you can see here behind me, 465 00:31:22,836 --> 00:31:25,111 dozens of photographers, dozens of reporters out here 466 00:31:25,111 --> 00:31:27,111 speaking about history as it's being made. 467 00:31:29,043 --> 00:31:31,560 For me, my goal was to get a sentence that I thought 468 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,456 was a fair reflection of what we knew he had done. 469 00:31:35,939 --> 00:31:39,215 The minimum sentence he could get was five years. 470 00:31:39,215 --> 00:31:42,836 The maximum sentence he could receive was fifty years. 471 00:31:44,491 --> 00:31:46,353 In the sentencing hearing, 472 00:31:46,353 --> 00:31:49,284 the defendant gets an opportunity to directly address the court. 473 00:31:50,698 --> 00:31:53,215 Fogle went on to tell Judge Prat, 474 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:56,836 "I went from being raised with good, solid morals and values 475 00:31:56,836 --> 00:32:00,905 "to living the life of deception, lies and complete self-centeredness. 476 00:32:02,387 --> 00:32:05,594 "I had become dependent on alcohol, pornography and prostitutes. 477 00:32:05,594 --> 00:32:08,870 "The victims that I have harmed as a result of my decisions 478 00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:12,146 "will carry a huge burden for the rest of their lives. 479 00:32:12,146 --> 00:32:16,491 "Not a day will go by that I don't think about them. 480 00:32:16,491 --> 00:32:19,456 "I take full and absolute responsibility for what I have done." 481 00:32:20,732 --> 00:32:23,974 Jared's defense attorneys had him evaluated. 482 00:32:23,974 --> 00:32:27,043 One of the experts provided a testimony, 483 00:32:27,043 --> 00:32:30,594 uh, that Jared was addicted to sexual activity. 484 00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:39,974 His attorneys said early on that he had swapped his food addiction for sex addiction. 485 00:32:39,974 --> 00:32:42,456 And that he was a good candidate for treatment. 486 00:32:42,456 --> 00:32:45,043 That he would be able to beat this and get better. 487 00:32:45,043 --> 00:32:48,043 That seems ludicrous on its face today. 488 00:32:48,043 --> 00:32:49,732 It seemed ludicrous at that time. 489 00:32:49,732 --> 00:32:51,594 I think you could have any number of addictions, 490 00:32:51,594 --> 00:32:56,284 you're not suddenly going to find someone who's underage sexually attractive. 491 00:32:56,284 --> 00:33:01,422 The defense had one of their witnesses saying it was mild pedophilia. 492 00:33:01,422 --> 00:33:04,215 That his problem primarily was teenage girls. 493 00:33:05,422 --> 00:33:07,456 But he was, according to our evidence, 494 00:33:07,456 --> 00:33:12,043 sexually attracted to children as young as age six, boys and girls. 495 00:33:13,905 --> 00:33:18,077 Several women around the United States came forward and said... 496 00:33:18,077 --> 00:33:21,180 Jared, to bring up the issue of his sexual attraction to minors. 497 00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:28,353 One of them, Rochelle Herman, had a set of recordings 498 00:33:28,353 --> 00:33:30,353 with Jared Fogle over a period of time. 499 00:34:05,974 --> 00:34:09,043 As far as I'm aware, there is no evidence to support 500 00:34:09,043 --> 00:34:14,353 that Jared Fogle ever did any of the things he discussed with Rochelle Herman. 501 00:34:14,353 --> 00:34:16,974 But the, uh, existence of the tapes 502 00:34:16,974 --> 00:34:19,801 showed he had a sexual interest in minors 503 00:34:19,801 --> 00:34:23,043 and a long-standing and persistent pattern of behavior. 504 00:34:24,284 --> 00:34:26,629 It's not a 'one moment of bad judgement', 505 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:30,008 it's not a small addiction, it's a major problem. 506 00:34:30,008 --> 00:34:33,663 Rochelle's tapes clearly had a huge impact on the judge. 507 00:34:33,663 --> 00:34:35,663 Because when it came to sentencing, 508 00:34:35,663 --> 00:34:38,767 she went beyond the prosecutor's recommendations. 509 00:34:38,767 --> 00:34:41,732 And I can tell you, that is very rare. 510 00:34:41,732 --> 00:34:44,801 The judge in this case, federal judge Tanya Walton Pratt, 511 00:34:44,801 --> 00:34:48,836 sentencing Jared Fogle to fifteen and a half years in prison. 512 00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,974 He is going to be registered as a sex offender, 513 00:34:50,974 --> 00:34:53,629 and uh, basically, being watched the entirety of his life. 514 00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:54,801 Hey, Jared! 515 00:34:56,836 --> 00:34:59,284 I know that there are guidelines. 516 00:34:59,284 --> 00:35:03,870 And I know that the judge took everything into consideration... 517 00:35:05,215 --> 00:35:07,939 But there's fourteen victims! 518 00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:11,008 How is fifteen years enough? 519 00:35:12,629 --> 00:35:15,043 Now, looking back on it, 520 00:35:16,491 --> 00:35:19,594 it makes me angry. 521 00:35:19,594 --> 00:35:22,629 Jared was just completely complicit 522 00:35:22,629 --> 00:35:25,974 in the videos that were being taken of us 523 00:35:25,974 --> 00:35:27,387 in our most vulnerable moments. 524 00:35:28,698 --> 00:35:30,594 He was the puppet master 525 00:35:30,594 --> 00:35:34,422 and Russell was kind of just his puppet. 526 00:35:34,422 --> 00:35:38,870 I think Jared Fogle was wired to be sexually attracted to children. 527 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:43,111 And his situation was made worse when he met Russell Taylor. 528 00:35:43,111 --> 00:35:46,456 They become this toxic combination together. 529 00:35:46,456 --> 00:35:48,560 Russell Taylor is paying the price 530 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,801 for victimizing children he secretly videotaped in the nude. 531 00:35:51,801 --> 00:35:55,111 The federal crime will cost him more than two decades in prison. 532 00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:59,353 It was his cooperation that allowed them to arrest and charge Jared Fogle. 533 00:36:06,353 --> 00:36:08,939 So many terrible memories in that house. 534 00:36:10,525 --> 00:36:13,146 It looks like a family home. 535 00:36:13,146 --> 00:36:16,525 - But, really, it was toxic. Evil. - Yeah. 536 00:36:18,146 --> 00:36:20,939 It's kind of hard to believe we lived in there 537 00:36:20,939 --> 00:36:24,008 and all those things happened inside. 538 00:36:24,008 --> 00:36:26,974 I don't feel trapped in there anymore. 539 00:36:26,974 --> 00:36:31,249 But this house robbed me of my childhood. 540 00:36:36,215 --> 00:36:40,387 Russell Taylor, to me, is now a monster. 541 00:36:40,387 --> 00:36:43,974 But I think my mom, Angela, was just as dangerous. 542 00:36:43,974 --> 00:36:46,422 as Russell and Jared, if not more. 543 00:36:50,387 --> 00:36:54,284 We got a call from the FBI IN 2020. 544 00:36:54,284 --> 00:36:56,146 The case was being reopened. 545 00:36:59,043 --> 00:37:01,767 The FBI had this new evidence. 546 00:37:01,767 --> 00:37:03,594 They said we're going to show you things about your mom 547 00:37:03,594 --> 00:37:04,801 that you've never seen before. 548 00:37:07,456 --> 00:37:12,698 And they showed us text messages and text messages and text messages 549 00:37:12,698 --> 00:37:16,732 of our mom talking about wanting to have sex with us. 550 00:37:16,732 --> 00:37:19,939 Wanting to let Russell have sex with us. 551 00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:25,215 She was watching us live on these cameras. 552 00:37:29,111 --> 00:37:30,491 I'm sorry. 553 00:37:34,008 --> 00:37:36,180 You just feel so unloved. 554 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:37,663 Just how... 555 00:37:39,939 --> 00:37:44,525 ...someone who... is supposed to love you and protect you... 556 00:37:44,525 --> 00:37:46,284 Supposed to be your mom... 557 00:37:46,284 --> 00:37:48,249 is... 558 00:37:48,249 --> 00:37:49,491 dangerous. 559 00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:56,663 We were asked to testify against her. 560 00:37:56,663 --> 00:38:01,387 And I wanted to tell the world what she had done 561 00:38:01,387 --> 00:38:06,008 because she stole so much of my childhood away from me. 562 00:38:06,008 --> 00:38:09,905 I felt, you exposed me, I'm going to expose you. 563 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,077 Russell Taylor's former wife was charged with sex crimes. 564 00:38:15,077 --> 00:38:19,767 And in 2021, she was convicted after jury trial. 565 00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:23,491 Judge Pratt's sentence for Taylor's former wife, Angela Baldwin 566 00:38:23,491 --> 00:38:24,974 was 33 years. 567 00:38:24,974 --> 00:38:29,146 She molested her own relatives and was gleeful about it. 568 00:38:29,146 --> 00:38:30,801 This was someone who chose to do this, 569 00:38:30,801 --> 00:38:32,353 this was someone who wanted to do this. 570 00:38:32,353 --> 00:38:35,146 And it's this horrific exploitation of children 571 00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:36,180 who should be able to trust you. 572 00:38:41,284 --> 00:38:43,801 I've asked myself many times... 573 00:38:45,387 --> 00:38:48,284 why would our mom do this to her children? 574 00:38:49,525 --> 00:38:52,043 I would label her as... evil. 575 00:38:53,905 --> 00:38:55,974 She just was not a good mom. 576 00:38:55,974 --> 00:38:57,491 She just was not a good mother. 577 00:38:59,456 --> 00:39:02,698 I would definitely say, having a child... 578 00:39:02,698 --> 00:39:04,284 has changed my life. 579 00:39:06,767 --> 00:39:10,077 I've never loved somebody so much. 580 00:39:10,077 --> 00:39:14,353 I just want to give my daughter... what I didn't have. 581 00:39:16,008 --> 00:39:19,387 I feel like our entire lives we've really just been surviving. 582 00:39:20,767 --> 00:39:23,284 I didn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. 583 00:39:23,284 --> 00:39:27,284 And now I can finally see that light. 584 00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:34,456 I can finally get a little bit of the taste 585 00:39:34,456 --> 00:39:37,698 of freedom and happiness. 586 00:39:37,698 --> 00:39:40,732 And it tastes so good. 587 00:39:40,732 --> 00:39:42,008 It really does. 588 00:39:50,836 --> 00:39:52,698 Although we've never met Rochelle, 589 00:39:52,698 --> 00:39:56,215 I'm definitely thankful for the part that she's played 590 00:39:56,215 --> 00:40:00,043 because we didn't have the power to speak up for ourselves. 591 00:40:01,491 --> 00:40:04,180 I would never be able to live my life knowing 592 00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:06,077 that I stood down. 593 00:40:06,077 --> 00:40:09,422 I needed to help save these children. 594 00:40:09,422 --> 00:40:11,111 And I would do it all over again. 595 00:40:13,215 --> 00:40:16,387 But I do regret how... 596 00:40:16,387 --> 00:40:20,318 it tore my relationship with my children apart. 597 00:40:22,422 --> 00:40:24,077 My sister, Angela, 598 00:40:24,077 --> 00:40:26,560 struggles a lot with the same things that I do. 599 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,353 Like anxiety and... 600 00:40:28,353 --> 00:40:31,043 I think she also, like has heavy depression. 601 00:40:31,043 --> 00:40:34,077 But she wants to get her life on track again. 602 00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:37,939 The whole thing with Jared Fogle, 603 00:40:37,939 --> 00:40:42,974 it's definitely strained, like, my relationship with my sister... 604 00:40:42,974 --> 00:40:44,663 and my mother. 605 00:40:46,353 --> 00:40:50,146 Around four or five years ago, I moved to Taiwan. 606 00:40:50,146 --> 00:40:51,767 And I've never gone back to America. 607 00:40:53,284 --> 00:40:55,180 There's a lot of reasons why. 608 00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:57,939 There's been a lot that's happened. 609 00:40:57,939 --> 00:41:00,801 I'm, I'm not sure, like, what I should say, to be honest. 610 00:41:03,732 --> 00:41:06,318 But, I'm very proud of my mother. 611 00:41:06,318 --> 00:41:08,594 She did do something heroic. 612 00:41:08,594 --> 00:41:11,767 And she... It was selfless, 'cause she lost a lot in the process. 613 00:41:16,077 --> 00:41:19,387 I'm not the same person I used to be. 614 00:41:19,387 --> 00:41:25,284 But, I will not allow this experience with Jared to define my life. 615 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:31,215 If I ever have the opportunity to talk to those fourteen victims, 616 00:41:31,215 --> 00:41:32,732 I would share it with them. 617 00:41:34,249 --> 00:41:37,560 Do not give Jared the power 618 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,905 to define what he did to you 619 00:41:41,905 --> 00:41:45,836 as who you are, because that's not who you are. 620 00:41:45,836 --> 00:41:49,456 And love yourself because you survived. 621 00:41:51,043 --> 00:41:52,732 And I personally... 622 00:41:56,077 --> 00:41:59,456 ...thank you for coming forward to help stop a monster.