1 00:00:01,042 --> 00:00:04,337 (suspenseful music) 2 00:00:06,464 --> 00:00:09,968 - [Narrator] Seattle in the mid-1960s was just coming out 3 00:00:09,968 --> 00:00:12,470 of a successful World's Fair. 4 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:14,931 - [Announcer] It's the adventure of a lifetime! 5 00:00:14,931 --> 00:00:18,143 - [Narrator] But it would be soon famous for something else, 6 00:00:19,936 --> 00:00:23,565 a murder that will remain a cold case for decades. 7 00:00:25,108 --> 00:00:27,527 There's very little evidence, witnesses, 8 00:00:27,527 --> 00:00:30,488 or even suspects for the police to figure out 9 00:00:30,488 --> 00:00:32,741 who the murderer is. 10 00:00:32,741 --> 00:00:35,243 - Due diligence is the key when you're not presented 11 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:36,536 with witnesses or evidence. 12 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:39,414 You must focus on the basics like evidence collection 13 00:00:39,414 --> 00:00:41,958 because it will likely help you in solving the case 14 00:00:41,958 --> 00:00:43,084 down the line. 15 00:00:43,084 --> 00:00:45,837 - It's a whole new world of evidence collection 16 00:00:45,837 --> 00:00:47,714 from today to 50 years ago. 17 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:49,883 However, the basics stay the same. 18 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:53,303 Investigators have a whole new set of tools 19 00:00:53,303 --> 00:00:54,971 at their fingertips. 20 00:00:54,971 --> 00:00:56,681 - [Narrator] It will take decades for advances 21 00:00:56,681 --> 00:00:58,933 in DNA research to reach a point that starts 22 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:03,063 helping solve crimes, but the wait will be worth it. 23 00:01:04,647 --> 00:01:05,982 (gentle music) 24 00:01:05,982 --> 00:01:09,694 - The unsolved ones. We have to stand up. 25 00:01:09,694 --> 00:01:13,572 - And approach these cases in a way outside the box. 26 00:01:13,572 --> 00:01:15,533 - Let the world knows, those out there 27 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:17,577 that did commit a murder, and there are people 28 00:01:17,577 --> 00:01:18,912 that are coming after you. 29 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:20,246 - There's just a lot of good people 30 00:01:20,246 --> 00:01:22,456 trying to do the right thing. (police radio squawking) 31 00:01:22,456 --> 00:01:23,917 - Because it's something that you 32 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:25,043 have to be passionate about. 33 00:01:25,043 --> 00:01:28,421 - Solve this, bring some peace to the family, at least. 34 00:01:28,421 --> 00:01:30,215 Just doing my job. 35 00:01:30,215 --> 00:01:35,470 (suspenseful music) (gavel bangs) 36 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:40,517 (relaxing music) 37 00:01:41,392 --> 00:01:44,104 - [Narrator] In Seattle, Washington, 1967, 38 00:01:44,687 --> 00:01:46,648 Joe Birlsawn starts his rounds 39 00:01:46,648 --> 00:01:49,400 to open up the Seattle Central Parkade. 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,529 It's been closed for days, which is normal 41 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:54,114 when no events are scheduled. 42 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:59,994 (elevator door whooshes) 43 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:04,332 Joe sees a limp body lying in the corner of the elevator 44 00:02:04,332 --> 00:02:05,625 and calls out to them. 45 00:02:08,752 --> 00:02:11,548 He steps closer and he sees it's a woman 46 00:02:11,548 --> 00:02:13,466 that isn't breathing and has obviously 47 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:15,135 been dead for a while. 48 00:02:16,761 --> 00:02:19,264 - In the first 72 hours after death, 49 00:02:19,264 --> 00:02:23,309 the body's internal organs will start to decompose. 50 00:02:23,309 --> 00:02:26,104 At the three to five day mark, a deceased body 51 00:02:26,104 --> 00:02:29,482 will start to bloat and exhibit signs of perch. 52 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,818 These signs are unmistakable. 53 00:02:32,526 --> 00:02:34,362 - Time is always of the essence. 54 00:02:34,362 --> 00:02:35,947 From the moment a body is discovered, 55 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:38,366 it doesn't matter if it's been five minutes, 56 00:02:38,366 --> 00:02:40,285 five days, or 50 years. 57 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:43,121 Investigators are always aware that the crime scene 58 00:02:43,121 --> 00:02:44,497 and the body are degrading, 59 00:02:44,497 --> 00:02:46,916 which could cause loss of critical evidence. 60 00:02:46,916 --> 00:02:49,877 So quick, thorough action is required. 61 00:02:51,713 --> 00:02:53,298 - [Announcer] Everybody's planning to see 62 00:02:53,298 --> 00:02:54,424 Seattle's Spectacular 100 million World's Fair. 63 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:57,302 (pensive music) 64 00:03:00,638 --> 00:03:04,267 - [Voiceover] The 1962 World's Fair in Seattle, Washington, 65 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:07,520 also known as the Century 21 Exposition, 66 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,772 attracted more than 9 million visitors 67 00:03:09,772 --> 00:03:14,569 between April 21st and October 21st, 1962. 68 00:03:15,486 --> 00:03:16,988 The crowning jewel of the World's Fair 69 00:03:16,988 --> 00:03:21,993 was the 605 foot space needle that cost 6.5 million 70 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:24,787 and is still a landmark in Seattle to this day. 71 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:30,919 During its operation, the fair brought tourists 72 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,921 and dignitaries from all over the world, 73 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:35,965 including Prince Philip, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 74 00:03:35,965 --> 00:03:38,009 and Elvis Presley, who filmed 75 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:40,970 "It happened at the World's Fair" on the grounds. 76 00:03:42,555 --> 00:03:43,932 In total, there were surprisingly 77 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:49,395 only 325 larceny committed, well below most estimations. 78 00:03:50,271 --> 00:03:52,607 - When a huge event like the World's Fair 79 00:03:52,607 --> 00:03:55,526 is put on in a city, it naturally brings in people 80 00:03:55,526 --> 00:03:57,612 from all over and all walks of life. 81 00:03:57,612 --> 00:04:00,406 Some come with different intentions. 82 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:02,450 You could see an uptick in pickpocketing 83 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:05,286 due to the dense nature of the crowds. 84 00:04:05,286 --> 00:04:07,080 (suspenseful music) 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,374 - [Narrator] Susan Galvin was one of those people 86 00:04:09,374 --> 00:04:11,709 that moved to downtown Seattle in 1966. 87 00:04:14,003 --> 00:04:16,798 Born in 1946 in New Bedford, Massachusetts, 88 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:19,592 but raised in Spokane, Washington. 89 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:21,052 Susan grew up in a large family 90 00:04:21,052 --> 00:04:23,513 consisting of two sisters and four brothers. 91 00:04:24,722 --> 00:04:28,184 In 1966, Susan Galvin moves to downtown Seattle 92 00:04:28,184 --> 00:04:31,562 and lives in the Lower Queen Anne neighborhood. 93 00:04:31,562 --> 00:04:33,690 This area, now known as Uptown, 94 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:36,276 is just north and west of Seattle Center. 95 00:04:43,908 --> 00:04:46,327 Susan gets a job as a records clerk 96 00:04:46,327 --> 00:04:48,246 at the Seattle Police Department, 97 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:50,832 located not far from the Space Needle. 98 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:52,709 She lives close to work and takes 99 00:04:52,709 --> 00:04:55,169 a similar route for every shift. 100 00:04:55,962 --> 00:04:58,798 She's quick to make friends with many of the people 101 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:00,842 she sees on a daily basis. 102 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:06,222 Days before she's murdered, Susan goes out on a double date 103 00:05:06,222 --> 00:05:09,851 with a girlfriend and two men they met from the Navy. 104 00:05:11,394 --> 00:05:14,272 - Finding patterns or anomalies in a victim's life 105 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:16,733 is an important step in the investigation. 106 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:20,153 It can lead to suspect's not immediately evident. 107 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:23,113 Retracing a victim's last days can often give 108 00:05:23,113 --> 00:05:26,034 insight into their mind and possibly lead you 109 00:05:26,034 --> 00:05:28,619 to a suspect you didn't know existed. 110 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:32,165 - [Narrator] On the night of July 9th, 1967, 111 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,375 Susan sets off for the graveyard shift 112 00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:37,128 at the police department like she always does 113 00:05:37,128 --> 00:05:40,048 through the Seattle Center parking garage. 114 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:43,343 (suspenseful music) 115 00:05:57,273 --> 00:06:00,234 But there's someone that seems to know her routine 116 00:06:00,234 --> 00:06:01,569 and is following her. 117 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,597 Susan never makes it to work. 118 00:06:38,064 --> 00:06:42,235 (suspenseful music sustains) 119 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:58,000 Her supervisor asks an officer if anyone has seen her. 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,671 The officer says that Susan might have taken the night off. 121 00:07:01,671 --> 00:07:04,507 (line buzzing) 122 00:07:05,883 --> 00:07:07,969 (telephone rings) 123 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:10,721 Susan's family hasn't heard from her in days, 124 00:07:12,682 --> 00:07:15,560 and every time they try to connect with her on the phone, 125 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,146 they get no answer and are getting worried. 126 00:07:19,522 --> 00:07:21,441 (handset rattles) 127 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:24,986 Days later, Susan still hasn't reported to work 128 00:07:24,986 --> 00:07:26,529 and no one has heard from her. 129 00:07:29,615 --> 00:07:32,577 Her supervisor is looking for any indicators 130 00:07:32,577 --> 00:07:34,579 of where she could be or have gone. 131 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:39,041 (dialer whirs) (line engages) 132 00:07:39,041 --> 00:07:41,461 - An investigator cannot play favorites 133 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:42,837 when investigating a crime. 134 00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:45,465 It doesn't matter if you knew the person or not. 135 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,468 You have to treat the case with the same professionalism 136 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:49,969 as you normally would. 137 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:52,388 If you lead with your heart instead of your mind, 138 00:07:52,388 --> 00:07:53,890 there could be things you miss 139 00:07:53,890 --> 00:07:56,392 because you're not thinking rationally. 140 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:02,106 (dramatic music) 141 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:07,528 - [Narrator] After four days, Susan is finally found 142 00:08:07,528 --> 00:08:11,073 on July 13th at approximately 7:00 PM. 143 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:17,955 The parking attendant runs for help. 144 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:19,874 Since the police station is next door, 145 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:22,293 officers arrive within minutes. 146 00:08:23,669 --> 00:08:26,964 - Time is critical when it comes to any investigation, 147 00:08:26,964 --> 00:08:28,925 but especially a murder. 148 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:33,638 A crime scene must be secured 149 00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:36,265 to ensure the integrity of evidence. 150 00:08:37,266 --> 00:08:39,936 - [Narrator] Susan's body wasn't found immediately 151 00:08:39,936 --> 00:08:42,772 because the parking garage and elevators inside 152 00:08:42,772 --> 00:08:44,607 were closed and locked up. 153 00:08:44,607 --> 00:08:46,651 The parking garage authorities tell police 154 00:08:46,651 --> 00:08:48,236 this is a common practice for them 155 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:51,530 when there are no events going on at the Seattle Center. 156 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:57,495 - The second a crime scene is discovered, it's contaminated, 157 00:08:57,495 --> 00:09:00,331 and while making every effort to collect evidence, 158 00:09:00,331 --> 00:09:03,000 you are contaminating it just by being there. 159 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,045 So the focus is careful collection without causing 160 00:09:06,045 --> 00:09:08,422 any damage to forensic evidence. 161 00:09:10,591 --> 00:09:11,717 (bright music) 162 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:14,178 - [Narrator] Police are quick to question the two Navy men 163 00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:17,181 that Susan and her friend went out with days earlier 164 00:09:17,181 --> 00:09:20,559 as they could be the last people to have seen Susan alive. 165 00:09:23,354 --> 00:09:24,939 - Some of the people that you bring in 166 00:09:24,939 --> 00:09:28,109 aren't necessarily suspects but are persons of interest. 167 00:09:28,109 --> 00:09:30,111 If they are credible, they can attest 168 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:31,571 to someone's state of mind. 169 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:34,699 This can help investigators paint a picture of the victim 170 00:09:34,699 --> 00:09:37,577 and whom else they might have been with before. 171 00:09:38,327 --> 00:09:40,496 - [Narrator] The Navy men are not charged and are let go. 172 00:09:40,496 --> 00:09:43,666 The clock is ticking to find another suspect. 173 00:09:43,666 --> 00:09:45,001 - Early in the investigation, 174 00:09:45,001 --> 00:09:47,878 it's important to follow every lead that you come across, 175 00:09:47,878 --> 00:09:50,464 no matter how small or strange. 176 00:09:51,716 --> 00:09:53,801 - [Narrator] Despite the initial setbacks, 177 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:58,264 detectives get a strong lead about an unexpected suspect. 178 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:02,852 (suspenseful music) 179 00:10:04,645 --> 00:10:07,315 (bright music) 180 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,819 (suspenseful music) 181 00:10:11,819 --> 00:10:15,698 Susan Galvin moves to downtown Seattle and soon gets a job 182 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:19,327 as a records clerk at the Seattle Police Department. 183 00:10:22,038 --> 00:10:24,498 Susan has only been there for a few months, 184 00:10:24,498 --> 00:10:27,627 but makes a lasting impression on all she meets. 185 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:32,089 She also has an active of social life 186 00:10:32,089 --> 00:10:34,050 and enjoys meeting new people. 187 00:10:37,053 --> 00:10:40,640 Susan's coworkers begin to notice that she's missing. 188 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:45,186 Susan's body is found four days later 189 00:10:45,186 --> 00:10:48,022 inside an elevator car by an attendant 190 00:10:48,022 --> 00:10:50,274 in the Seattle Center parking garage. 191 00:10:50,274 --> 00:10:53,486 The elevators in the garage had been shut off as there was 192 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:57,114 no activities at the center, which is common practice. 193 00:10:58,199 --> 00:11:02,160 Investigators act fast and question two Navy men 194 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,081 that went out with Susan shortly before her death. 195 00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:07,833 However, no charges are laid against the men. 196 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:10,503 (percussive music) 197 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:13,214 A new tip comes in that says Susan was seen 198 00:11:13,214 --> 00:11:15,466 hours before her death with a man 199 00:11:15,466 --> 00:11:18,427 in clown makeup called Punchy. 200 00:11:23,265 --> 00:11:25,142 Punchy the Clown is brought down 201 00:11:25,142 --> 00:11:27,436 to the police station for questioning. 202 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,272 - [Detective] Were you employed as a clown 203 00:11:30,272 --> 00:11:32,107 at the Seattle Center? - Yes. 204 00:11:32,107 --> 00:11:33,359 - [Detective] Okay. 205 00:11:33,359 --> 00:11:35,945 At the Seattle Center back in 1967, 206 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:37,697 a young woman was killed. 207 00:11:38,489 --> 00:11:40,866 Do you remember that happening? 208 00:11:46,163 --> 00:11:47,665 - [Detective] Exactly. 209 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:51,043 That's interesting that you could remember that. 210 00:11:52,253 --> 00:11:54,839 - There's various types of interrogation techniques 211 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:56,465 that an investigator can use. 212 00:11:56,465 --> 00:11:58,968 It all depends on the person you're talking to. 213 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:02,054 One can be direct by presenting the evidence against them, 214 00:12:02,054 --> 00:12:04,807 use empathy to gain trust or be repetitive 215 00:12:04,807 --> 00:12:06,350 to break down the suspect. 216 00:12:07,434 --> 00:12:09,102 - [Narrator] The investigator questions Punchy 217 00:12:09,102 --> 00:12:12,773 about why he was with Susan hours before her death. 218 00:12:13,941 --> 00:12:16,485 - [Detective] Were you in that elevator with her? 219 00:12:16,485 --> 00:12:17,695 - [Punchy the Clown] No. 220 00:12:17,695 --> 00:12:19,613 - [Detective] Did you have anything to do with her death? 221 00:12:19,613 --> 00:12:20,322 - Okay. 222 00:12:20,322 --> 00:12:22,908 Did you ever have sex with her? 223 00:12:22,908 --> 00:12:23,868 - No. - Okay. 224 00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:25,745 Are you sure about that? 225 00:12:30,124 --> 00:12:31,417 (foreboding music) 226 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:33,127 - Another technique is keeping 227 00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:34,295 the room very cold. 228 00:12:34,295 --> 00:12:37,131 A cold room may increase a person's anxiety, 229 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:40,176 which may break down any barriers a person is putting up, 230 00:12:40,176 --> 00:12:42,553 so that the truth can come out. 231 00:12:42,553 --> 00:12:45,222 It could just also be a cold room. 232 00:12:45,222 --> 00:12:47,475 - [Narrator] The investigator then questions Punchy 233 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:51,312 about quitting his job just days after he last saw Susan. 234 00:12:51,312 --> 00:12:52,730 - [Detective] So this incident happened 235 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:57,026 on a Sunday afternoon and you ended up quitting your job- 236 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:00,571 - A day or two later. Do you remember that? 237 00:13:00,571 --> 00:13:02,782 Do you remember quitting your job? 238 00:13:08,245 --> 00:13:10,498 - How come? 239 00:13:15,544 --> 00:13:16,879 - [Detective] But it seemed kind of abrupt to me 240 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,508 as I was reading kind of the chronology of things. 241 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:23,719 - Right? 242 00:13:25,386 --> 00:13:26,514 - During the interrogation, 243 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:28,766 there are often things that come up that could lead 244 00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:31,227 the investigation in a different direction, 245 00:13:31,227 --> 00:13:32,561 and you can't ignore those. 246 00:13:32,561 --> 00:13:35,356 Every possible lead and hunch should be followed up. 247 00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:37,982 This ensures that you are doing your due diligence 248 00:13:37,982 --> 00:13:40,736 and also respecting the life of the deceased. 249 00:13:42,571 --> 00:13:44,615 - The US Constitution doesn't actually specify 250 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:47,451 how long they can hold someone, and many states 251 00:13:47,451 --> 00:13:48,577 set their own limit. 252 00:13:48,577 --> 00:13:51,372 Most states use about a 72 hour timeline. 253 00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:54,750 - [Narrator] With no definitive evidence linking Punchy 254 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:57,503 to Susan's death, he is let go. 255 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:02,550 Punchy will remain a person of interest in this case 256 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:04,969 until he can be definitively ruled out. 257 00:14:05,928 --> 00:14:08,013 In the meantime, investigators must continue 258 00:14:08,013 --> 00:14:10,599 to look for clues and witnesses. 259 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,727 (suspenseful music) 260 00:14:13,727 --> 00:14:16,063 Because of the time of Susan's murder 261 00:14:16,063 --> 00:14:18,691 before her midnight shift at the police department 262 00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:20,401 finding witnesses is proving 263 00:14:20,401 --> 00:14:22,611 to be difficult for investigators. 264 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:30,578 Back at the scene of the murder officers are once 265 00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:33,330 again going over the area to make sure 266 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:34,665 they don't miss a thing. 267 00:14:36,584 --> 00:14:39,336 - It's quite common to go back to the scene of the murder, 268 00:14:39,336 --> 00:14:40,713 to look for more evidence. 269 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:43,257 Even with the best intentions, there are things 270 00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:44,717 that can be missed the first time. 271 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:46,969 These things can be big or small. 272 00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:48,929 Think of when you lose something at your home. 273 00:14:48,929 --> 00:14:52,016 You can turn your house upside down looking for the remote, 274 00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:55,102 but it's not until you stop looking or take a break 275 00:14:55,102 --> 00:14:56,270 that you actually see it was 276 00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:58,272 in front of you the entire time. 277 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,609 - [Narrator] It's a whole new world of evidence collection 278 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:04,904 from today to 50 years ago when this took place. 279 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:07,615 The basics, however, stay the same. 280 00:15:07,615 --> 00:15:09,700 - Today, investigators have a whole new 281 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:12,286 set of tools at their fingertips. 282 00:15:12,286 --> 00:15:15,831 One of those tools is DNA phenotyping. 283 00:15:15,831 --> 00:15:20,336 A forensic scientist will sequence a DNA sample 284 00:15:20,336 --> 00:15:23,172 so they can indicate identifiable traits 285 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:26,425 such as skin, eye, and hair color. 286 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:30,888 In some cases, it can predict the age of a suspect. 287 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:33,599 There's a new technology and biosensors 288 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:37,853 used to determine minuscule traces of bodily fluids 289 00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:39,855 found within fingerprints. 290 00:15:39,855 --> 00:15:42,608 So if the deceased had contact with a murder, 291 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:45,694 even put their hands on them to push them away, 292 00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:49,323 the biosensors can pick up age, gender, 293 00:15:49,323 --> 00:15:51,408 and even medications. 294 00:15:53,285 --> 00:15:56,747 - [Narrator] On July 15th, two days after Susan was found, 295 00:15:56,747 --> 00:15:58,582 the King County coroner concludes 296 00:15:58,582 --> 00:16:01,794 that Susan died via suffocation. 297 00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:04,672 The autopsy posits that the killers placed 298 00:16:04,672 --> 00:16:07,967 either their hand or an object over her nose and mouth. 299 00:16:10,886 --> 00:16:12,972 She'd also been sexually assaulted. 300 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,809 The coroner states the time of death 301 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:19,311 was 11:00 PM on July 9th, 302 00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:22,523 an hour before Susan was due at work. 303 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:26,068 (dramatic music) 304 00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:28,654 Investigators continued to search for clues or evidence 305 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,990 that could lead them to Susan's killer. 306 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,325 They go through her apartment, 307 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,536 collecting her clothing as evidence. 308 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:41,458 Police doggedly continue to search for anything 309 00:16:41,458 --> 00:16:43,794 that can help them solve Susan's murder. 310 00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:46,463 - When an officer canvases door to door, 311 00:16:46,463 --> 00:16:48,382 they are looking for potential witnesses 312 00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:52,219 Odd behavior or anything unusual, including people. 313 00:16:52,219 --> 00:16:55,014 Generally, neighbors tend to keep to themselves. 314 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,557 If they have a loud neighbor, 315 00:16:56,557 --> 00:16:57,933 they often won't complain in hopes 316 00:16:57,933 --> 00:17:00,561 that it will soon stop and they won't have to make a scene 317 00:17:00,561 --> 00:17:01,979 or complain to the landlord. 318 00:17:01,979 --> 00:17:03,480 But they'll never forget the noises 319 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,898 that came from that apartment. 320 00:17:05,898 --> 00:17:08,444 - [Narrator] They canvas Susan's apartment building, 321 00:17:08,444 --> 00:17:09,737 going door to door, 322 00:17:09,737 --> 00:17:13,240 hoping that someone somewhere heard something. 323 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:17,202 - There's so much information you can gather 324 00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:18,619 going door to door. 325 00:17:18,619 --> 00:17:20,455 There's information about the victim 326 00:17:20,455 --> 00:17:23,208 and their activities leading up to their death. 327 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:25,044 Did a new person come to their place? 328 00:17:25,044 --> 00:17:28,630 Was there a specific vehicle seen before the murder? 329 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:31,592 It can identify suspects who many times 330 00:17:31,592 --> 00:17:33,927 will have a residence in the area. 331 00:17:33,927 --> 00:17:35,846 You're looking for anything out of the ordinary 332 00:17:35,846 --> 00:17:39,683 that could explain how the victim got into the situation. 333 00:17:41,185 --> 00:17:43,103 - On July 18th, a funeral is held 334 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:46,356 for Susan at St. Joseph's Catholic Church. 335 00:17:46,356 --> 00:17:48,817 The family and members of the the Seattle Police Department 336 00:17:48,817 --> 00:17:51,487 say their final goodbyes to Susan. 337 00:17:52,404 --> 00:17:54,281 What makes this day even harder for most 338 00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:56,575 is not knowing why Susan had to die 339 00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:58,911 and not knowing who did it. 340 00:17:59,787 --> 00:18:01,705 - There comes a point in certain cases 341 00:18:01,705 --> 00:18:04,166 where detectives exhaust all potential leads. 342 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,542 It's a depressing feeling to know that you've done 343 00:18:06,542 --> 00:18:09,463 all that you can, but it's not enough. 344 00:18:09,463 --> 00:18:11,757 To see the family struggling with the death 345 00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:13,801 of their loved one, and the lack of closure 346 00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:15,219 is so difficult. 347 00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:22,101 (dramatic music) 348 00:18:24,019 --> 00:18:26,647 (light music) 349 00:18:29,023 --> 00:18:32,194 (dramatic music) 350 00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:36,073 - Susan Galvin is found dead in a parking lot elevator. 351 00:18:36,073 --> 00:18:39,243 She had been suffocated and sexually assaulted 352 00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:40,828 and locked in the elevator. 353 00:18:40,828 --> 00:18:43,413 She wasn't found for four days. 354 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:48,127 The investigation determines that Susan was murdered 355 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:50,796 on her way to work the graveyard shift 356 00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:53,674 at the Seattle Police Department. 357 00:18:53,674 --> 00:18:55,759 Police interview two Navy sailors 358 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:57,928 that had went out with Susan and a friend 359 00:18:57,928 --> 00:18:59,721 days before her death, but they're 360 00:18:59,721 --> 00:19:03,142 never considered actual suspects and let go. 361 00:19:04,518 --> 00:19:06,811 Police then zero in on a suspect 362 00:19:06,811 --> 00:19:09,690 that was with Susan hours before she was killed. 363 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:14,444 Known around town as Punchy the Clown. 364 00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:17,489 Police discover that he had become friendly with Susan 365 00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:19,657 from passing each other on the street. 366 00:19:19,657 --> 00:19:22,411 On top of that, Punchy had quit his job 367 00:19:22,411 --> 00:19:24,872 just days after Susan's murder. 368 00:19:24,872 --> 00:19:26,080 - [Detective] So this incident happened 369 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,459 on a Sunday afternoon and you ended up quitting your job 370 00:19:29,459 --> 00:19:30,794 a day or two later. 371 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,467 - [Detective] How come? 372 00:19:37,467 --> 00:19:39,970 - Right? 373 00:19:42,097 --> 00:19:43,765 - [Narrator] While there is no evidence to connect him 374 00:19:43,765 --> 00:19:46,518 to the murder, he remains a person of interest. 375 00:19:49,396 --> 00:19:52,648 With all clues and leads drying up the investigation 376 00:19:52,648 --> 00:19:55,319 into who killed Susan Galvin is put on hold. 377 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:59,740 - The feeling that a detective has after working a case 378 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,910 and getting nowhere is indescribable. 379 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:04,869 It's obviously not as bad as what 380 00:20:04,869 --> 00:20:06,580 the family is going through, 381 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:10,209 but no one involved in the investigation forgets about it. 382 00:20:11,792 --> 00:20:13,587 It's those cases that you can't close 383 00:20:13,587 --> 00:20:15,589 that stick with you the longest. 384 00:20:15,589 --> 00:20:19,218 We want to close the case as much as the family does. 385 00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:21,303 - [Narrator] Whenever the topic of Susan 386 00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:23,347 comes up in the Galvin household, 387 00:20:23,347 --> 00:20:25,807 the conversation is quickly stopped. 388 00:20:26,683 --> 00:20:29,186 - The loss of a loved one or family member 389 00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:31,647 can take on many different forms, 390 00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:33,898 all depending on the relationship 391 00:20:33,898 --> 00:20:37,736 at the time of death and your personal views on death. 392 00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:40,864 Some choose to confront it head on. 393 00:20:40,864 --> 00:20:43,116 Others choose to talk about it, 394 00:20:43,116 --> 00:20:45,994 while others will keep it closer to themselves 395 00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:50,040 because they feel saying it out loud will make it true. 396 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,877 But if they keep it inside and never acknowledge it, 397 00:20:53,877 --> 00:20:56,630 it's almost like it never happened. 398 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:58,548 - [Narrator] Talking about Susan remains taboo 399 00:20:58,548 --> 00:21:00,384 in the Galvin household, 400 00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:02,970 which takes an emotional toll on a family. 401 00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:06,223 - Not talking or acknowledging a loss 402 00:21:06,223 --> 00:21:10,102 can take a massive emotional toll on a person 403 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:13,063 because healing steps are not taken. 404 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:18,568 It can only get worse and even manifest into physical hurt. 405 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:23,490 Some people might take comfort from the grief and think 406 00:21:23,490 --> 00:21:28,287 if they get past it, the person didn't mean much to them. 407 00:21:29,371 --> 00:21:31,248 - [Narrator] Through the years there are no updates 408 00:21:31,248 --> 00:21:35,544 to offer the family and their hope for closure runs out. 409 00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:39,298 (somber music) 410 00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:46,513 On September 13th, 2000, Susan's mother, Helen, 411 00:21:46,513 --> 00:21:48,557 passes away at age 77. 412 00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:51,643 She goes to her grave never knowing 413 00:21:51,643 --> 00:21:54,229 who killed her daughter or why. 414 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:02,904 In 2002 advancements in DNA testing have gone to the point 415 00:22:02,904 --> 00:22:05,157 that Seattle police think it can help solve 416 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:07,242 some long forgotten murders, 417 00:22:07,242 --> 00:22:10,829 including Susan Galvin from 1967. 418 00:22:13,248 --> 00:22:16,792 - It is quite astonishing that the evidence collected from 419 00:22:16,792 --> 00:22:21,340 Susan in 1967 was still viable in 2002. 420 00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:25,344 It is a credit to the officers at that time. 421 00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:28,805 - We always owe a huge debt of gratitude 422 00:22:28,805 --> 00:22:30,932 to the original crime scene investigators 423 00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:32,893 because even before they could have known 424 00:22:32,893 --> 00:22:35,811 how powerful DNA would be, they somehow collected 425 00:22:35,811 --> 00:22:38,773 that evidence for us to work with almost what, 426 00:22:38,773 --> 00:22:40,108 50 years in the future. 427 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:44,446 And so that's pretty incredible when you think about that. 428 00:22:45,489 --> 00:22:47,574 - [Narrator] Susan Galvin's clothes are collected 429 00:22:47,574 --> 00:22:51,078 and shipped off to Washington State Patrol Crime Laboratory 430 00:22:51,078 --> 00:22:52,913 for DNA analysis. 431 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,874 - Though it really is like time travel, it is. 432 00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:59,294 It's like having a time capsule to go back and help unravel 433 00:22:59,294 --> 00:23:00,462 these mysteries. 434 00:23:00,462 --> 00:23:03,173 - [Narrator] It is of utmost importance, but the evidence 435 00:23:03,173 --> 00:23:06,176 carefully makes it to its destination or the collection 436 00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:10,472 from the crime scene 35 years ago would've been for nothing. 437 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,766 - Chain of custody is absolutely vital 438 00:23:12,766 --> 00:23:14,309 when it comes to prosecuting a case. 439 00:23:14,309 --> 00:23:17,854 Sometimes evidence doesn't make its way into court for days, 440 00:23:17,854 --> 00:23:19,856 months, or even years later. 441 00:23:21,023 --> 00:23:23,193 If there's a breakdown in the chain that opens up 442 00:23:23,193 --> 00:23:26,113 the possibility that the evidence has been tampered with, 443 00:23:26,113 --> 00:23:28,782 and then it can be thrown out of court. 444 00:23:28,782 --> 00:23:31,618 (pensive music) 445 00:23:33,161 --> 00:23:35,414 - [Narrator] Once the evidence is received by the lab, 446 00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:39,292 technicians will perform what is called DNA profiling. 447 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:44,798 - DNA profiling is a procedure that can identify a person 448 00:23:44,798 --> 00:23:48,301 based on their specific genetic makeup. 449 00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:50,929 So you're taking an old piece of evidence 450 00:23:50,929 --> 00:23:52,931 and examining it for DNA. 451 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,016 Once you have that DNA isolated, 452 00:23:55,016 --> 00:23:58,979 you can compare it to someone in the criminal database, 453 00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:02,232 but that result only occurs if their DNA 454 00:24:02,232 --> 00:24:05,318 is in the database, usually as as a result 455 00:24:05,318 --> 00:24:09,364 of a previous crime, or if they've willfully uploaded 456 00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:13,160 their DNA profile to a genealogy database. 457 00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:17,580 - DNA alone generally is not enough to get a conviction. 458 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:20,459 It's a very integral part of the prosecution's case, 459 00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:23,962 but you generally need more evidence than just simply DNA. 460 00:24:25,589 --> 00:24:27,674 - [Narrator] Susan's brother Chris is on the phone 461 00:24:27,674 --> 00:24:30,844 with the Seattle Police who have an update 462 00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:32,387 on his sister's case. 463 00:24:33,346 --> 00:24:36,308 The DNA profile that they found on Susan's clothing 464 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:40,020 does not match any of the DNA in the offender database. 465 00:24:41,188 --> 00:24:44,816 - A case has never closed until it is solved. 466 00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:49,112 Setbacks are heartbreaking, absolutely, 467 00:24:49,112 --> 00:24:51,740 but there are technological breakthroughs 468 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:53,782 that happen every year. 469 00:24:53,782 --> 00:24:54,910 There's always hope. 470 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:57,954 The next advancement is the one that you need 471 00:24:57,954 --> 00:25:00,165 to help solve the case. 472 00:25:01,124 --> 00:25:02,501 - [Narrator] The promising lead has brought 473 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:06,087 current day investigators back to a complete stop. 474 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:08,798 The news isn't all bad. 475 00:25:08,798 --> 00:25:11,593 The DNA profile obtained from Susan's clothing 476 00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:15,138 has given the police a genetic blueprint to work with. 477 00:25:16,138 --> 00:25:18,391 Now, it's a matter of when the technology 478 00:25:18,391 --> 00:25:21,186 will advance enough to utilize the DNA 479 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:22,938 to find Susan's killer. 480 00:25:24,439 --> 00:25:27,359 (dramatic music) 481 00:25:28,693 --> 00:25:31,488 (bright music) 482 00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:36,076 (dramatic music) 483 00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:39,746 Susan Galvin is just 20 years old when she's murdered 484 00:25:39,746 --> 00:25:42,541 in 1967 on her way to work. 485 00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:46,211 Witnesses are few and far between, 486 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,547 and there's only one possible suspect. 487 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:52,884 Punchy the clown was with Susan hours before her murder, 488 00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:56,304 but there's not enough evidence to connect him to the crime. 489 00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:59,057 However, he will continue to be 490 00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:01,101 a person of interest going forward. 491 00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:05,939 Years later, there is hope that new DNA profiling techniques 492 00:26:05,939 --> 00:26:08,400 could help to identify Susan's killer. 493 00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:12,279 But there were no matches in the criminal database 494 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,698 for the DNA profile found. 495 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:17,617 The case is once again cold. 496 00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:25,959 In 2016, Seattle Police Detective Rolf Norton 497 00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:27,502 reopens the case. 498 00:26:27,502 --> 00:26:30,130 He feels the advances in DNA profiling 499 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:32,799 are now at a stage that could provide answers 500 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,635 to who Susan Galvin's murderer is. 501 00:26:38,221 --> 00:26:40,390 The man who played Punchy the Clown 502 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:42,976 is now retired and living in Utah. 503 00:26:42,976 --> 00:26:45,228 When Detective Norton tracks him down, 504 00:26:46,646 --> 00:26:48,356 Detective Norton introduces himself 505 00:26:48,356 --> 00:26:50,984 and tells Punchy why he's there, to tell him 506 00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:54,446 he is no longer a suspect in the murder of Susan Galvin. 507 00:26:55,321 --> 00:26:58,282 Newly processed DNA information proves 508 00:26:58,282 --> 00:27:00,118 that he was not at the crime scene. 509 00:27:01,036 --> 00:27:03,371 - Whenever new evidence is uncovered, 510 00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:06,374 it's always prudent for the investigator to cross reference 511 00:27:06,374 --> 00:27:08,460 that against previous suspects. 512 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:12,505 Police identify someone as a suspect for a very good reason. 513 00:27:12,505 --> 00:27:14,507 And no matter how much time has passed, 514 00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:19,012 you have to make sure this can either confirm suspicions 515 00:27:19,012 --> 00:27:21,181 or rule out potential suspects. 516 00:27:22,515 --> 00:27:23,600 (upbeat music) 517 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,019 - [Narrator] In 2018, there are more advances. 518 00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:29,397 But this time, forensic genealogy, including one 519 00:27:29,397 --> 00:27:32,859 of the most high profile cases in the United States, 520 00:27:32,859 --> 00:27:34,402 the Golden State Killer. 521 00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:43,119 - De Angelo is found using updated techniques 522 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,579 in genetic genealogy. 523 00:27:44,579 --> 00:27:49,125 It uses DNA left behind creating and tracing a family 524 00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:54,589 tree using profile submitted to a public genealogy database. 525 00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:00,720 - [Narrator] Detective Norton sends DNA from the clothing 526 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,558 of Susan Galvin to Parabon NanoLabs in Reston, Virginia. 527 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,814 CeCe Moore has been working with law enforcement 528 00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:13,148 for close to four and a half years. 529 00:28:13,148 --> 00:28:14,651 With the lab's help, they've been able to help 530 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:18,196 law enforcement solve one crime per week on average, 531 00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:22,032 which adds up to more than 225 crimes. 532 00:28:22,032 --> 00:28:24,452 - So with traditional law enforcement investigations, 533 00:28:24,452 --> 00:28:26,162 they're using a very specific type 534 00:28:26,162 --> 00:28:29,207 of DNA test and DNA profile. 535 00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:31,960 And that DNA profile is very limited, 536 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,628 has very limited information. 537 00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:35,755 It works great for one-to-one if you know 538 00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:38,633 who to compare it against, but it doesn't work great 539 00:28:38,633 --> 00:28:40,427 for finding your suspect. 540 00:28:40,427 --> 00:28:42,846 And so genetic genealogy is different. 541 00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:45,640 And the type of profile that we use, 542 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,101 which is a different type of genetic markers, 543 00:28:48,101 --> 00:28:51,062 and we look at about a million of those genetic markers 544 00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:52,564 across the genome, 545 00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:55,900 and that gives us the power to identify distant cousins 546 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,903 and to reverse engineer someone's identity 547 00:28:58,903 --> 00:29:01,489 from who they're sharing DNA with. 548 00:29:01,489 --> 00:29:04,284 And typically that's very distant relatives. 549 00:29:04,284 --> 00:29:06,411 We're not getting one-to-one matches. 550 00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:08,747 We're not getting close relative matches. 551 00:29:11,332 --> 00:29:13,042 - [Narrator] CeCe Moore applies her methods 552 00:29:13,042 --> 00:29:17,213 to the Susan Galvin case to try and find her killer. 553 00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:23,762 - The Susan Galvin case really hit me hard when I learned 554 00:29:24,679 --> 00:29:28,391 about it because it happened before I was born. 555 00:29:28,391 --> 00:29:32,187 So that was really interesting to be invited 556 00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:36,274 to help on a case that happened when I didn't even exist. 557 00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:39,861 The other probably more compelling aspect of it is, 558 00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:43,281 it happened in Seattle right by the Space Needle, 559 00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:45,408 and my family is from Seattle. 560 00:29:45,408 --> 00:29:47,577 My parents met at University of Washington 561 00:29:47,577 --> 00:29:49,788 and we drove up there pretty much every summer. 562 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,206 Went to the Space Needle. 563 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,292 And it, you know, really struck me that it could have been 564 00:29:54,292 --> 00:29:55,835 one of my family members. 565 00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:02,425 - [Narrator] With an almost personal connection to the case, 566 00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:05,720 CeCe Moore is motivated to find Susan's killer. 567 00:30:06,387 --> 00:30:08,431 - The first challenge with this case 568 00:30:08,431 --> 00:30:11,810 is that the DNA sample was mixed. 569 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:14,604 So that means that the DNA contained 570 00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:18,316 the victim's DNA and the perpetrator's DNA. 571 00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:21,402 And fortunately, we have extremely skilled scientists 572 00:30:21,402 --> 00:30:24,239 that I work with at Parabon that are experts 573 00:30:24,239 --> 00:30:27,450 in deconvolution, which means extracting out 574 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:29,661 the victim's DNA, so we're left with just 575 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:30,870 that perpetrator's DNA. 576 00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:34,791 And so that really takes a lot of experience and training 577 00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:36,668 to be able to do that. 578 00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:39,003 There's a lot of attention in these cases 579 00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:40,588 on the DNA processing 580 00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:43,091 and the investigative genetic genealogy. 581 00:30:43,091 --> 00:30:44,759 But there's a really important step 582 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:45,969 that happens in the middle. 583 00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:49,013 These are almost never pristine DNA samples. 584 00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,431 They're never optimal samples. 585 00:30:50,431 --> 00:30:52,934 They're almost always highly degraded. 586 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:56,020 They might be contaminated with bacterial DNA, 587 00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:58,731 and they can be mixed, like in this case. 588 00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:02,235 (suspenseful music) 589 00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:03,862 - [Narrator] Once the genetic forensic team 590 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,197 extracts the perpetrator's DNA, 591 00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:09,534 they can begin the process of building a family tree 592 00:31:09,534 --> 00:31:12,579 to hone in on Susan Galvin's murderer. 593 00:31:12,579 --> 00:31:14,706 - If people share significant amounts of DNA 594 00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:16,875 with each other, that means they have to have 595 00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,585 a common ancestor in their tree. 596 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:21,671 The more DNA they share, the closer that common ancestor 597 00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:25,508 is in time and the smaller amount of DNA they share, 598 00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:28,344 the more distant that common ancestor is in time. 599 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:31,139 So for our top match, I needed to determine 600 00:31:31,139 --> 00:31:33,850 which branch of that match's family tree 601 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:35,977 was gonna connect to our killer. 602 00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:37,145 In order to do that, 603 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:39,272 I looked at who else on that match list, 604 00:31:39,272 --> 00:31:41,482 who else that was sharing DNA with the killer, 605 00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:44,027 also shared DNA with that top match. 606 00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:49,616 When you can build the trees of multiple matches or people 607 00:31:49,616 --> 00:31:53,286 sharing DNA with your suspect and find how they connect. 608 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:56,205 So that gives you one piece of his family tree. 609 00:31:56,205 --> 00:32:00,126 If they all share DNA and they have that common ancestor, 610 00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:01,920 it means that he will as well. 611 00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:05,924 So that gives us one piece of his family tree. 612 00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:07,884 The next thing that I had to work with 613 00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:13,139 was I knew that he was approximately 16% Native American. 614 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,558 And that was interesting and quite unique 615 00:32:15,558 --> 00:32:20,605 because most of his ancestry was Northern European. 616 00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:26,194 - [Narrator] With each new branch added to the tree 617 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,571 CeCe and the genetic forensics team, 618 00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:33,326 gets closer and closer to naming Susan Galvin's killer. 619 00:32:33,326 --> 00:32:36,162 - So 16% kind of falls in the middle. 620 00:32:36,162 --> 00:32:38,998 A great grandparent gives you about 12 and a half percent, 621 00:32:38,998 --> 00:32:42,961 and a grandparent gives you about 25% of your DNA. 622 00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:46,756 So that meant that this killer either had a grandparent 623 00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:51,010 or great grandparent, of full Native American ancestry. 624 00:32:51,010 --> 00:32:53,513 And so that gave me something else to look for 625 00:32:53,513 --> 00:32:58,351 among the descendants of this genetic network. 626 00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:00,478 I knew that he had to be a descendant 627 00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:04,107 of this couple that I identified, and so I needed 628 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,985 to trace all their descendants, build out the rest 629 00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:10,780 of their family tree and see if one of their fairly recent 630 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,825 ancestors was of Native American ancestry. 631 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:16,786 And so I did find that a descendant 632 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:20,498 of that genetic network couple married somebody 633 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:22,667 who had a Native American ancestor. 634 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:26,587 I could see through the matches that a number of people 635 00:33:26,587 --> 00:33:28,923 that were sharing DNA with this killer 636 00:33:28,923 --> 00:33:31,009 had ancestors all from Poland. 637 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:34,303 So if all of their ancestors are from Poland 638 00:33:34,303 --> 00:33:35,930 and they're sharing DNA with him, 639 00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:39,726 that means he has to have some Polish ancestors as well. 640 00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:42,520 (bright music) 641 00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:45,690 - [Narrator] The family tree is almost complete, 642 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:49,569 and Cece has taken the investigation as far as she can. 643 00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:52,905 - And in this particular case, 644 00:33:52,905 --> 00:33:56,534 I knew that his direct paternal line, so his father's, 645 00:33:56,534 --> 00:34:00,538 father's father's line likely had that Polish origin. 646 00:34:00,538 --> 00:34:03,666 And that's because we also looked at his Y chromosome, 647 00:34:03,666 --> 00:34:05,334 which is a different type of DNA. 648 00:34:05,334 --> 00:34:08,046 And so I knew these pieces had to come together. 649 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,631 We had to have a descendant of the genetic network. 650 00:34:10,631 --> 00:34:13,634 We had to have a person descended from a Native American 651 00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:17,805 ancestor and someone descended from Polish ancestors, 652 00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:21,476 and through marriages, I found all those pieces 653 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:25,646 coming together and they led to just one individual. 654 00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:30,777 He was the only individual who had the correct ancestral mix 655 00:34:30,777 --> 00:34:33,237 to be the person that left his DNA behind 656 00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:34,197 at that crime scene. 657 00:34:34,197 --> 00:34:37,075 Therefore, he must have been Susan's killer. 658 00:34:38,785 --> 00:34:40,495 - [Narrator] Now, Detective Norton 659 00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:42,747 just has to find this individual. 660 00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:47,668 (suspenseful music) 661 00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:52,090 (bright music) 662 00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:57,094 (suspenseful music) 663 00:34:57,094 --> 00:34:59,972 In 2019, with patience and advances 664 00:34:59,972 --> 00:35:03,768 in genetic genealogy testing, authorities have finally found 665 00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:06,479 the person responsible for the murder 666 00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:09,148 of Susan Galvin back in 1967, 667 00:35:10,690 --> 00:35:13,569 CeCe Moore from Parabon Nano Labs 668 00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:15,822 took the DNA a sample profile 669 00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:17,782 and through tracing descendants, 670 00:35:17,782 --> 00:35:20,076 found that only one person matched: 671 00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:23,913 Frank Wypych. 672 00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:26,666 Now police must find him. 673 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:30,210 Detective Rolf Norton doesn't have to search 674 00:35:30,210 --> 00:35:31,504 very hard for Frank. 675 00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:35,716 He died in 1987, but they still need proof. 676 00:35:35,716 --> 00:35:38,969 - When you work a very old case such as this one, 677 00:35:38,969 --> 00:35:40,972 it's not a big surprise when you find 678 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,099 that the suspect is already deceased. 679 00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:44,642 Of course, it's always disappointing. 680 00:35:44,642 --> 00:35:48,229 You always hope that they will have to face justice. 681 00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:51,940 But on the other hand, in such a brutal case like this, 682 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:54,360 I'm glad that his life was cut short 683 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,904 because we don't know how many other victims 684 00:35:56,904 --> 00:36:00,032 there were or could have been in his lifetime. 685 00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:04,203 - Frank Wypych never had to answer to authorities. 686 00:36:04,203 --> 00:36:06,581 Nobody will know exactly what happened 687 00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:08,791 the day Susan Galvin died. 688 00:36:08,791 --> 00:36:11,210 The situation of her murderer being deceased 689 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,171 and being the only other one that knew 690 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:15,840 means that we can only speculate what happened. 691 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,593 There's no journal or letter of confession. 692 00:36:18,593 --> 00:36:21,094 So really it was DNA that tells 693 00:36:21,094 --> 00:36:23,890 the story of Susan Galvin's murder. 694 00:36:23,890 --> 00:36:27,935 But the fact that Frank Wypych lived freely is unjust. 695 00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:32,565 - [Narrator] Since Frank is long passed, 696 00:36:32,565 --> 00:36:34,734 authorities must exhume his body 697 00:36:34,734 --> 00:36:38,362 from the Riverton Crest Cemetery in Washington State. 698 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:43,117 - 30 Years later, there would still be viable DNA. 699 00:36:43,117 --> 00:36:45,828 There would still be some degradation to the body. 700 00:36:45,828 --> 00:36:49,081 It really depends on the conditions of the body 701 00:36:49,081 --> 00:36:51,542 and how it was stored. 702 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:54,378 Most conservative guesses estimate 703 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:56,130 that the conditions are right, 704 00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:59,175 DNA a can last hundreds of years. 705 00:36:59,926 --> 00:37:01,886 - [Narrator] After Frank's body was exhumed 706 00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:03,346 and his DNA collected, 707 00:37:03,346 --> 00:37:05,640 it was confirmed that it did match the DNA 708 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,227 taken from Susan's clothing back in 2002. 709 00:37:10,603 --> 00:37:13,522 (suspenseful music) 710 00:37:13,522 --> 00:37:15,983 Susan's killer was Frank Wypych, 711 00:37:15,983 --> 00:37:18,902 but who was Frank and why did he kill her? 712 00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:25,952 Frank Edwards Wypych was born in 1941 713 00:37:25,952 --> 00:37:27,703 and grew up in Seattle. 714 00:37:29,038 --> 00:37:31,248 He served two years in the US Army. 715 00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:35,253 He was 26 years old at the time he murdered Susan Galvin. 716 00:37:37,004 --> 00:37:42,260 In 1966, Frank marries his 23 year old girlfriend, Judith. 717 00:37:43,052 --> 00:37:44,512 The next year, the year he killed Susan, 718 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:48,474 they have a child, another one will follow in two years. 719 00:37:49,517 --> 00:37:53,604 Frank lived his life freely and was never suspected 720 00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:55,147 in Susan Galvin's death. 721 00:37:57,942 --> 00:38:00,820 (dramatic music) 722 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:02,822 Reports come out that Frank had a habit 723 00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:05,283 of impersonating security guards. 724 00:38:06,951 --> 00:38:09,078 - The reasons that someone impersonates 725 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,788 a security guard can vary. 726 00:38:10,788 --> 00:38:13,165 One could fantasize of being a guard 727 00:38:13,165 --> 00:38:17,044 or be addicted to having power over ordinary citizens. 728 00:38:18,212 --> 00:38:20,797 It could also be to hide the fact that they are stalking 729 00:38:20,797 --> 00:38:23,467 someone under the guise of security. 730 00:38:26,053 --> 00:38:30,099 - [Narrator] In 1971, Frank and Judith divorce. 731 00:38:30,099 --> 00:38:33,352 Later that year, he's convicted of larceny. 732 00:38:33,352 --> 00:38:35,396 He will remarry the following year. 733 00:38:36,355 --> 00:38:39,650 In 1975, Frank is again arrested, 734 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:41,944 this time for a weapons offense. 735 00:38:41,944 --> 00:38:43,779 His relatives tell police that he has been 736 00:38:43,779 --> 00:38:47,867 impersonating a police officer and making traffic stops, 737 00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:50,286 all the while carrying a gun. 738 00:38:52,538 --> 00:38:56,042 - Stolen valor is when an individual pretends to be a member 739 00:38:56,042 --> 00:38:57,293 of the military. 740 00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,795 It gives them a weird sense of power and respect 741 00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:00,963 from the public. 742 00:39:00,963 --> 00:39:04,175 It's using the uniform for false validation. 743 00:39:05,259 --> 00:39:08,512 It's disrespectful to anyone that's ever worn the uniform. 744 00:39:08,512 --> 00:39:13,100 - There are many reasons why someone would steal valor. 745 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:16,437 It could be as simple as wanting to be part 746 00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:17,938 of a respected group. 747 00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:20,274 Instead of earning your way into it, 748 00:39:20,274 --> 00:39:22,068 you dress like it. 749 00:39:22,068 --> 00:39:25,029 Or there could be more devious reasons 750 00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:29,367 such as collecting money for a supposed charity. 751 00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:34,163 - [Narrator] Frank spends nine months in jail. 752 00:39:35,414 --> 00:39:38,667 In 1987 Frank Wypych passes away 753 00:39:38,667 --> 00:39:42,380 at the age of 46 from diabetes complications. 754 00:39:44,882 --> 00:39:47,968 In May of 2019, a press conference is held 755 00:39:47,968 --> 00:39:50,679 to announce that the case of Susan Galvin's murder 756 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,015 is officially closed. 757 00:39:53,015 --> 00:39:55,976 The police chief presents Susan's brother Chris, 758 00:39:55,976 --> 00:39:57,603 with the American flag that flew 759 00:39:57,603 --> 00:39:59,271 over the Seattle Justice Center 760 00:39:59,271 --> 00:40:02,400 the day Detective Norton solved the case. 761 00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:04,944 (upbeat music) 762 00:40:04,944 --> 00:40:06,152 - It's a satisfying feeling when you finally 763 00:40:06,152 --> 00:40:08,572 solve a case that you and your coworkers 764 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,324 have been working on for so long. 765 00:40:10,324 --> 00:40:13,494 For detectives, it's an uncomfortable burden to carry 766 00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:15,579 when the case isn't solved. 767 00:40:15,579 --> 00:40:19,250 As a detective, the drive to solve the case is so important, 768 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:23,421 mostly for the family, but also for the department. 769 00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:25,840 - [Narrator] The detectives that originally worked 770 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,009 the Susan Galvin murder case have all passed away, 771 00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:31,219 but their legacy remains in the way they collected 772 00:40:31,219 --> 00:40:33,305 the evidence to keep its integrity, 773 00:40:33,305 --> 00:40:36,183 to allow future investigators the opportunity 774 00:40:36,183 --> 00:40:37,435 to solve the case. 775 00:40:38,643 --> 00:40:41,772 This is the oldest case to utilize genetic genealogy 776 00:40:41,772 --> 00:40:43,440 to identify a suspect. 777 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,027 - And initially the pieces just weren't falling in place. 778 00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:51,949 But what was really key in this case was his mixed ancestry, 779 00:40:51,949 --> 00:40:55,619 the fact that he had these diverse origins 780 00:40:55,619 --> 00:41:00,583 and I needed to find that one person that had that mix. 781 00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:02,001 And so when I found him, 782 00:41:02,001 --> 00:41:03,294 it was obvious it was him 783 00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:08,007 because it was such an unusual combination of ancestry. 784 00:41:10,259 --> 00:41:13,804 - There is a very common misconception 785 00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:15,848 that one match solves a case. 786 00:41:15,848 --> 00:41:17,016 People always ask me, 787 00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:18,559 what's the one match that solved a case? 788 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:21,812 And it almost never and should never be one match. 789 00:41:21,812 --> 00:41:24,773 It should be a web of matches. 790 00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:26,400 It's like pieces of a puzzle: 791 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,902 You've gotta put 'em together one by one by one, 792 00:41:28,902 --> 00:41:31,614 and that web has to finally close in 793 00:41:31,614 --> 00:41:35,242 on just one person or one set of siblings. 794 00:41:36,118 --> 00:41:38,329 When I found him among the descendants 795 00:41:38,329 --> 00:41:39,997 of that genetic network, 796 00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:42,917 he had such a unique mix of ancestry 797 00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:48,380 that really became obvious that this had to be the guy. 798 00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:50,508 - [Narrator] It is unjust that Frank was able 799 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,802 to roam freely for years before serving time. 800 00:41:55,554 --> 00:41:58,349 Susan's family suffered knowing her killer 801 00:41:58,349 --> 00:41:59,808 wasn't behind bars. 802 00:42:00,893 --> 00:42:03,562 - So we owe this huge debt of gratitude to those original 803 00:42:03,562 --> 00:42:06,440 investigators, those crime scene investigators 804 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,026 that collected that DNA not even knowing what they were 805 00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:11,152 collecting and the value of that. 806 00:42:11,152 --> 00:42:14,156 - Armed with Frank Wypych's, DNA profile, 807 00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:17,076 police continue to investigate if Frank had killed 808 00:42:17,076 --> 00:42:19,870 anyone else when he was in the Army and stationed 809 00:42:19,870 --> 00:42:22,331 in New York, Germany, and Alaska. 810 00:42:23,748 --> 00:42:25,251 Well, the family of Susan Galvin 811 00:42:25,251 --> 00:42:26,960 will never know why she was killed. 812 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,005 More than 50 years later, they finally have closure, 813 00:42:30,005 --> 00:42:31,090 thanks to the decades long determination 814 00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:34,301 of law enforcement officials. 815 00:42:35,094 --> 00:42:37,930 (pensive music)