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JOHN ALDERSON: This is the
area and probably the trail
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that my sister was hiking on.
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Over the hill there you
could see San Francisco,
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the Golden Gate Bridge.
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And she would have come up
here to come look at the sunset
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late in the afternoon.
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The next morning, my
mother called and told me
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that Annie's missing.
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My sister really took to hiking.
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For her, the worst thing
that's going to happen to you
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was getting attacked by a bear.
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She was not used to predators
in her own backyard.
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ANA GARCIA: This is the story
of a serial killer who hunted
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his prey, human beings,
specifically women,
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in the most beautiful
places you can imagine.
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DANIELLE LAROCK: You
never know what or who
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is hiding just off trail.
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ANA GARCIA: To this day,
people are still haunted
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by the Trailside Killer.
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The damage and the trauma done
to the victims, the survivors,
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and their families
is immeasurable.
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It lives on.
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LISA RINNA: My mom
survived a serial killer
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and literally lived
to tell the tale.
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REPORTER: The Trailside Killer
was baffling the authorities
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and terrorizing the public.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: It was a very
traumatizing time for people
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in Northern California.
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They didn't feel
safe anywhere now.
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ANA GARCIA: He had
this insatiable
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appetite to hurt women.
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It's always the bear.
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100%, it's always the bear.
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People are so unpredictable.
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And that's what's scary.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: The
Trailside Killer
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would find people
hiking in the woods,
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and he would stalk them
and then murder them.
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REPORTER: The shock
waves hadn't even
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settled when the Bay Area was
rocked by the Trailside Killer
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again.
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JOHN ALDERSON: She was in
the wrong place, wrong time.
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He was looking
for young females.
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His objective was to rape and
murder and get away with it.
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To him, that was
the ultimate crime.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: That's his
nature, to plot and scheme
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and kill.
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JOHN ALDERSON: You wanted
them to catch that person
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because you wanted it to stop.
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We have, on our
hands, a killer
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with severe
psychological problems.
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And if he had had
the opportunity,
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he would have tried to kill me.
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ANA GARCIA: And the
question is, could there
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be more victims out there?
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CASSIE YAHNIAN:
San Francisco, you
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have the city and the outdoors
right at your doorstep.
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JOHN ALDERSON: The natural
landscape of Marin County
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is rolling hills that roll
down into the Pacific Ocean.
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One of the dominant features
in the area is Mount Tamalpais.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: And
Northern California has
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the best of everything here.
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JAY RUSKIN: There's very little
crime, so it was very safe.
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And when these killings started
happening on the trails--
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killings of women,
rapes, and murders--
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it shattered everything.
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Nobody felt safe anymore.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: The Trailside
Killer was a man who stalked
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and murdered women and couples
on Northern California hiking
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trails between 1979 and 1981.
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He would be nameless
and faceless for years.
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This all happened
in the early '80s.
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We didn't have cell
phone technology then.
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In these remote areas, there
really is not help close by.
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CASSIE YAHNIAN: I think
the wilderness makes
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a great crime scene,
unfortunately,
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because evidence is lost in it.
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These were women who
felt that they were going
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to be out communing with
nature, and they ended up
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communing with a serial killer.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: So
the series of murders
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that would be known as
the Trailside Killings
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began in August of 1979.
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A 44-year-old woman named
Edda Kane decided to go
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hiking on Mount Tamalpais.
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REPORTER: It marked
the first murder
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in memory on the mountain.
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No one could know then that
it would be the beginning
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of a gruesome pattern.
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CASSIE YAHNIAN: She was
shot execution-style.
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She was nude, except
for a pair of socks.
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She had been shot with
a large-caliber weapon,
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a 44 caliber gun.
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What investigators believe is
that the gun was too noisy.
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So he realized that that was
a good way to get caught.
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So he starts using a knife,
and he stabs his next victims.
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REPORTER: Seven months
after the first murder,
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the Trailside
Killer struck again.
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23-year-old Barbara Schwartz
was stabbed to death.
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CASSIE YAHNIAN: It was a
really, really horrific
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crime scene to come across.
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It was where they found
his glasses that they
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were able to link to a prison.
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They were looking
for an ex-convict.
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So that was a clue.
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REPORTER: Sheriff's deputies
only have one clue tonight.
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They found a 10-inch
knife about half a mile
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in along the Matt Davis Trail.
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All women and even
other single male hikers
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travel with companions
on the mountain.
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Barbara Schwartz was
not the only victim
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who was stabbed by the Trailside
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REPORTER: Mary Frances Bennett
was murdered October 21, 1979.
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ESTHER LUDLOW:
Investigators would say
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that she had been butchered.
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And she was dragged to
the-- into these woods
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and found there.
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ANA GARCIA: Police say
the Trailside Killer
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changed his method of killing.
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So he switches to a gun, and
police say his favorite gun
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ends up being a 38.
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REPORTER: The
scientist and daughter
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of a prominent Marin doctor
was found shot to death
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by a high-powered weapon.
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REPORTER: On October
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met her death in the same way as
Edda Kane, ambushed on a trail.
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JOHN ALDERSON: My sister
was Anne Evelyn Alderson.
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She was the victim in the
Trailside Murder saga.
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She was 26.
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I would say she was beginning
the prime of her life.
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She had a lot of freedom
to say, gee, you know,
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the world is my oyster.
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I'm really excited
about what comes next.
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My sister Anne was a somewhat
quiet person on the outside.
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But on the inside,
she was a person
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of very strong convictions.
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She really believed that the
world could be a better place.
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She really, really loved
being outside in the forest.
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She worked as a forest ranger.
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This was something that was
so far beyond our imaginations
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at the time.
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My sister went
off abroad and was
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working with the Peace Corps.
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And so when she
came back, she was
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not updated on
that there had been
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a couple murders in the area.
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Annie had no idea of
the Trailside Killings.
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I think what my sister found
in nature is she found peace.
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She found a place where
she could meditate.
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[sighs] Sorry.
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On the night she died,
by the reports of hikers
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and so forth in the area, she
was spotted up in the Mount
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Tamalpais mountain theater.
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She was just kind of up
there, watching the sunset
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and enjoying the evening.
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And two people thought that they
should warn her about that there
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was a predator around.
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But they saw her kind of
in such deep meditation,
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so they kind of just let her be.
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I heard about it
the next morning
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when my mother called and
told me that Annie's missing.
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We knew something was wrong.
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My sister Anne's car was
just up the trail from here,
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oh, maybe 100 yards or so.
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It was in the parking lot.
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This became ground zero for
the search for my sister.
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Anne Alderson's killing
was found to be committed
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with a 38 caliber weapon.
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She had been shot
execution-style,
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in the back of the head.
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There was evidence that she had
been raped and then redressed.
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JOHN ALDERSON: What was most
frustrating about not knowing
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who murdered my sister,
I think, was the fact
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that the worry that
other people were
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going to be fall victim to him.
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So when it did happen
again and again,
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you're just-- your heart broke.
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REPORTER: The shock
waves hadn't even
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settled when the Bay Area was
rocked by the Trailside Killer
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again.
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ANA GARCIA: About a month
after Anne's murder,
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Shauna May and Diane
O'Connell went on a hike
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on the very same day, who,
by the way, are not friends.
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They're just random
hikers on the same trail.
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Both of them disappeared.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: And now
there is this massive search
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that's being done.
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And pretty quickly,
they do find victims,
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but it's not Diane
O'Connell and Shauna May.
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While police are searching
for Shauna and Diane,
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they come across the
bodies of two more people.
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It's a young man and a woman.
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They had been missing for weeks.
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So Richard and Cynthia
were a young couple.
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They had plans of
getting married,
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and they were just on a
camping trip together.
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And they were
discovered severely
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decomposing side by side.
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They were the first
shooting victims
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that were found to be connected
to that 38 caliber weapon.
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And then, not far
from these two bodies,
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police find their two missing
hikers from that day, nude
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and shot to death.
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Doesn't that tell you
what a psycho he is?
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He is like an animal that
keeps bringing his prey
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back to the same little spot.
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He is a killer who
kills on instinct.
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REPORTER: Not one, but four
victims this time at Point
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Reyes National Seashore.
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Now, as the bodies are
starting to mount up,
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he is not just going
after individuals.
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He's going after couples.
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INTERVIEWER: Are you linking
the decomposed bodies
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with the fresh bodies with the
mountain killing, all of them
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together?
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We are at this time, yes.
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And it was after finding
these people that they realized
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they had a serial killer.
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MAN: This individual is very
capable of striking again.
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Previously, we suggested that
women should not hike alone.
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I am now cautioning even
women traveling in pairs.
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DANIELLE LAROCK: Always
looked behind my shoulder
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every once in a while.
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You feel like someone's,
like, watching you.
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One of the things I personally
love the most about the outdoors
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is the refuge that it
offers from the busyness
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of everyday life.
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You can go out and explore,
find yourself again,
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tune out everything else.
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I actually make
it a point to say
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hello to the person passing me
and make eye contact with them.
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I want to make sure you
know that I see you.
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CASSIE YAHNIAN: I will
carry bear spray with me
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to use as a self-defense.
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Overwhelmingly, I have
felt safe in the outdoors.
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But I have definitely had
moments where I have not.
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REPORTER: It is quiet
and ever so lonely
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along the hiking
trails on Mount Tam,
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but no one is out
here tonight, knowing
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that the savage Marin killer may
be lurking along these trails.
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[grim music]
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So people in Northern
California at this time,
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by November of 1980,
were just terrified.
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CASSIE YAHNIAN: Rangers were
actually coming up to hikers,
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letting them know what
had happened, to be aware,
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let them know if they saw
anything that was suspicious.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: There
started to be warning
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signs where they would
put out-- they would say,
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don't hike alone.
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For the longest time, no
one knew what the Trailside
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Killer looked like.
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The composite made us think
that he was a tall, skinny guy
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with a long nose.
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The physical
description, medium build,
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medium-length brown hair.
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That's the thing with
eyewitness testimony,
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right, is it's unreliable.
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And in this case,
unfortunately, it was.
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It kind of misdirected
the investigation
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for a really long time.
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[ominous music]
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So the killer now moves
to Santa Cruz County.
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This is about 70 miles
south of Marin County.
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KAREN KILROY: I believe
that his killing urges
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were getting stronger
and stronger,
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to the point to where he
couldn't control it anymore.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: So in March 1981,
Ellen Hansen and her boyfriend
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Steven Haertle had
decided to go camping
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in Henry Cowell State Park.
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20-year-old Ellen Hansen and
her friend Steve Haertle had
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left their campsite, and
they were headed up the trail
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for the observation deck.
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But they never got that far.
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ANA GARCIA: Steve and Ellen are
college students at UC Davis.
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And they go for a hike.
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They run into this man who
becomes kind of aggressive
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with them.
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And so Steve thinks
this is a hold-up.
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[somber music]
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The assailant doesn't
want his wallet.
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He wants his girlfriend,
and he tells him so.
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He says, no, I'm gonna
rape your girlfriend,
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and you're gonna watch.
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And he proceeds to shoot them.
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[somber music]
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CASSIE YAHNIAN:
It's heartbreaking
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that Steve saw his girlfriend
be killed right in front of him.
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ANA GARCIA: The unbelievable
thing is that Steve
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is shot in the throat.
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He survives, and it is in
this moment that so much
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is revealed about the killer.
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[curious music]
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Steve was not the only
eyewitness to this crime,
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and other people were able to
give police an ID of the killer.
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REPORTER: A full color composite
drawing of the Trailside
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Killer suspect is now out.
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Law enforcement agencies think
this is the most accurate
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and latest likeness so far.
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ANA GARCIA: Based on
the second composite,
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the killer looked like
a very average man,
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not necessarily like a
smooth-talking, Ted Bundy-type.
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One of the breaks in
the case is when someone
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thought she recognized him.
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ROBERTA PATTERSON: I know
it's David Carpenter.
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I can tell by his chin and
the horn-rimmed glasses.
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REPORTER: Did you
notify authorities?
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Right away.
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[tense music]
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DANIELLE LAROCK: His
name is David Carpenter.
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JAY RUSKIN: David Carpenter.
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ANA GARCIA: David Carpenter.
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Now, police are being directed
toward David Carpenter.
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All of a sudden, he's a suspect.
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KAREN KILROY: David
Carpenter was a really
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ordinary-looking person.
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He was in his 50s.
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And he was kind
of dumpy and bald.
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Nothing about him stood out.
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JAY RUSKIN: He had
horn-rimmed glasses.
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Looked like a respectable
kind of a nerdy guy.
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Nothing scary about him.
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KAREN KILROY: He also had
a very severe stutter.
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ANA GARCIA: When he was
in that killing zone,
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he stopped stuttering.
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It's like he was either
completely in control
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or completely out of control.
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It was pure evil in action.
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David Carpenter was
born in 1930 to Frances
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and Elwood Carpenter.
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His father and mother
did not get along.
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They fought constantly.
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He was severely
abused by his parents.
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By the time he was 17,
he was incarcerated,
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and that was crimes
against children.
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David Carpenter was
a serious predator.
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And we know this
based on his records.
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And nothing ever changed.
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If anything, he got worse.
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He was sent to
California Youth Authority,
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but he only could stay
there until he was 18.
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And then he was released.
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[tense music]
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ANA GARCIA: It's 1960
in San Francisco,
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and David Carpenter
appears to have
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his criminal ways behind him.
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He's now married,
has three children.
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He's working, and one of his
colleagues, Lois DeAndrade,
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is someone that
he has his eye on.
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I think part of the reason
why Lois has been such a focus
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of David Carpenter's case is
because of her daughter, Lisa
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Rinna, who has brought a
lot of light to her story
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and has kept it alive.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: Lisa Rinna
is a Hollywood actress.
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[PRESS CLAMORING, CAMERA
SHUTTERS CLICKING]
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She is best known for The Real
Housewives of Beverly Hills.
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Her mother, Lois DeAndrade,
was an early victim
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of David Carpenter.
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I think my mom was positive
and never played a victim,
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never felt sorry for herself.
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And she could have been the
most miserable, fucked up,
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traumatized human being,
and I never saw that.
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CASSIE YAHNIAN: I've
seen clips of Lisa Rinna
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talking about her mother on
The Housewives of Beverly Hills
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before.
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LOIS DEANDRADE:
He's straddling me,
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and he had a hammer in one
hand, a knife in another.
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I was the first one that
he went to jail for.
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And so one morning, she
was waiting at the bus stop
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to go to the dentist, and
he came by the bus stop
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and said, Lois, I want
you to meet my new baby.
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She was like, no, I have
to go to the dentist.
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And he said, I'll drive you.
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And she got in the car with him.
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He started talking to her,
and he was not stuttering.
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That was the first sign.
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He was driving in
a weird direction.
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And then she said, David,
what's going on with you?
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You're-- you're not stuttering.
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You're speaking clearly.
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And he said, I don't know, Lois.
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Something just comes over me.
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And that's when she
knew she was fucked.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: But then he
starts driving, instead of
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towards their house,
through the Presidio, which
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is an Army base here,
right at the foot
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of the Golden Gate Bridge.
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Now, it's maybe
10:00 in the morning.
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Luckily, a military
policeman saw
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this car drive down a
deserted road that no one
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should be driving on.
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So he followed them.
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And as David Carpenter
parked the car,
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he literally straddled
my mom, grabbed
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a knife out of the glove box,
takes the knife, goes at my mom.
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My mom grabs it with her hand,
and it severs these two fingers.
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So her fingers are,
like, dangling.
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And then David
starts to freak out
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because he sees the car coming.
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And so he reaches in the
back, grabs a hammer,
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and starts smashing my mom
over the head with a hammer.
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ANA GARCIA: He starts
hammering at her head.
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If that police officer had
not shown up when he did,
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Lois would be dead.
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The MP shoots David
Carpenter in the stomach.
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Doesn't kill him.
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My mom, she's in the
hospital for three months.
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She had to have a big metal
plate put in her head.
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David Carpenter
then pleads guilty.
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Then he goes on to become
the Trailside Killer.
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She had no idea that she
was one of the first victims
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of a serial killer.
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And had that police
officer not been there,
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she likely would have been
his first murder victim.
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My mom lived in
fear, for sure,
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but she's very lucky
that she survived it.
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David Carpenter received
14 years in federal prison
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for the attack on
Lois DeAndrade.
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He ended up serving nine.
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The idea that David Carpenter
was let out for good behavior,
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it seems a little bit ludicrous.
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And he was back on the streets
of San Francisco in 1969.
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It really underscores how
much crimes against women
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are not taken seriously enough.
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A year after David
Carpenter was released
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from federal prison, he went on
a crime spree over about a week.
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ANA GARCIA: According
to police, he sexually
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assaults multiple women.
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And he serves almost
nine years for this.
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And some might say,
is that really enough?
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DANIELLE LAROCK: He was
a convicted sex offender,
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and somehow, he
wasn't on the list.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: Once he got
out, he was just a predator.
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[light music]
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ESTHER LUDLOW: In the
late '70s and early
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'80s, California had
gone through a little
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bit of a transformation.
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The Summer of Love
was long past over,
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and we were moving
into a new time.
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It was, you know, the
golden age of serial killers.
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I don't know what was going
on in California at the time,
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but there were
multiple serial killers
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all killing at the same time.
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I mean, police had
their hands full.
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There was the Freeway
Killer, the Hillside
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Strangler, who got confused with
the Trailside Killer sometimes.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: They had gone
through the Zodiac killings.
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That was in the late '60s.
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REPORTER: The elusive
killer who taunted
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police with cryptic
messages signed Zodiac.
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We were dealing with somebody
who would later be known
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as the Golden State Killer.
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REPORTER: People have their
doors and windows open,
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but the police are
saying lock up tight.
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Sacramento's infamous East Area
Rapist may still be in town.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: So it
was a very scary time.
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ANA GARCIA: After the attack on
Steve and his girlfriend Ellen,
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police are hoping the
new composite sketch
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might help catch the Trailside
Killer before he kills again.
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Authorities have their
eyes on David Carpenter,
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but he still continues
his killing spree.
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This time, David
Carpenter chooses
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a victim within his own orbit.
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ESTHER LUDLOW: Heather
Scaggs was a young woman
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who worked with David Carpenter
at the printing company
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where he was employed.
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JAY RUSKIN: She
told her boyfriend
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that she was going with David
Carpenter to look at a car,
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and she never came back.
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She had reservations about it,
about going because of the way
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this guy acted.
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I don't know why she went.
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[sirens wailing]
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REPORTER: Shortly after 7:00 AM,
the silence this neighborhood is
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accustomed to was broken when
Department of Justice agents,
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the FBI, and members of
the Marin County Task Force
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converged in a
home at 38 Sussex,
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arresting 51-year-old
David Joseph
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Carpenter as the suspected
Trailside Killer.
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ANA GARCIA: The case
of the Trailside Killer
493
00:23:54,835 --> 00:23:56,706
finally reaches a pinnacle.
494
00:23:56,806 --> 00:24:01,248
They have arrested a man
they suspect of killing seven
495
00:24:01,348 --> 00:24:04,788
people in less than two years.
496
00:24:04,889 --> 00:24:07,928
ESTHER LUDLOW: David Carpenter
was arrested May 15, 1981.
497
00:24:08,028 --> 00:24:09,631
JAY RUSKIN: There
were, I would say,
498
00:24:09,731 --> 00:24:13,238
something like 25 different
law enforcement agencies.
499
00:24:13,338 --> 00:24:17,748
The feds were involved, the FBI,
all kinds of local agencies.
500
00:24:17,848 --> 00:24:20,353
At this point, there
is a lot of evidence
501
00:24:20,453 --> 00:24:22,357
pointing to David Carpenter.
502
00:24:22,457 --> 00:24:24,261
There are the witnesses.
503
00:24:24,361 --> 00:24:25,964
There's the composite.
504
00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:29,403
There are the leads that are
coming in through the tip line.
505
00:24:29,505 --> 00:24:31,842
There's David
Carpenter's history
506
00:24:31,942 --> 00:24:34,581
as a convicted sex offender
with a long history
507
00:24:34,681 --> 00:24:36,819
of violence against women.
508
00:24:36,919 --> 00:24:41,028
And then there is the
similarity of the weapon.
509
00:24:41,128 --> 00:24:46,605
They were all killed
with a 38 caliber pistol.
510
00:24:46,705 --> 00:24:49,310
[solemn music]
511
00:24:49,410 --> 00:24:51,616
ESTHER LUDLOW: Soon after
David Carpenter's arrest,
512
00:24:51,716 --> 00:24:54,988
Heather Scaggs' body was
found in Big Basin State Park.
513
00:24:55,089 --> 00:24:56,593
REPORTER: The small
poster describes
514
00:24:56,693 --> 00:24:57,894
her as a missing person.
515
00:24:57,994 --> 00:25:00,667
Unfortunately, she now
is a murder victim.
516
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:02,871
ESTHER LUDLOW: It was also
determined that she had been
517
00:25:02,971 --> 00:25:07,079
killed with a 38 caliber weapon,
and there was evidence of rape.
518
00:25:07,179 --> 00:25:16,666
The link between the two sets
of cases is a firearms link.
519
00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:19,236
JAY RUSKIN: All the bullets
came from the same gun, which
520
00:25:19,337 --> 00:25:22,109
meant the crimes were all
committed by the same man, hence
521
00:25:22,209 --> 00:25:23,679
the Trailside Killer case.
522
00:25:23,779 --> 00:25:27,086
But the question is,
where is the murder weapon?
523
00:25:27,186 --> 00:25:32,463
That will be the ultimate
evidence against him.
524
00:25:32,564 --> 00:25:35,737
[pensive music]
525
00:25:38,943 --> 00:25:42,115
KAREN KILROY: I was barely 18
when I met David Carpenter.
526
00:25:42,216 --> 00:25:46,424
And at that time, my husband,
Shane, was robbing banks,
527
00:25:46,525 --> 00:25:48,062
and he was a drug addict.
528
00:25:48,162 --> 00:25:51,434
He would rob banks
to keep his habit up.
529
00:25:51,535 --> 00:25:55,944
I did not know anything that
Carpenter had done wrong, other
530
00:25:56,044 --> 00:26:00,018
than he had been in jail with
Shane, and I didn't know why.
531
00:26:00,118 --> 00:26:02,658
Shane was interested
in getting a gun.
532
00:26:02,758 --> 00:26:05,129
And Dave was saying,
well, I can get you a gun.
533
00:26:05,229 --> 00:26:07,868
Why do I think he
gave the gun to Shane?
534
00:26:07,968 --> 00:26:11,274
I think that he planned on
setting Shane up to take
535
00:26:11,374 --> 00:26:13,444
the fall for the murders.
536
00:26:13,546 --> 00:26:17,085
My husband Shane and I found
out that David Carpenter was
537
00:26:17,185 --> 00:26:20,594
a murderer when someone
started beating on our door,
538
00:26:20,694 --> 00:26:22,229
and it was the police.
539
00:26:22,329 --> 00:26:25,235
They said they arrested him
this morning for murder.
540
00:26:25,335 --> 00:26:27,841
And of course, we were
completely shocked.
541
00:26:27,941 --> 00:26:31,682
Now, we had that gun right
in the middle of our floor.
542
00:26:31,782 --> 00:26:33,251
We were messy.
543
00:26:33,351 --> 00:26:35,857
And the police searched our
apartment and didn't find it.
544
00:26:35,957 --> 00:26:38,328
We both decided to
leave that apartment.
545
00:26:38,428 --> 00:26:40,065
Shane took the gun with us.
546
00:26:40,165 --> 00:26:43,639
We basically carried it
around for a couple of days.
547
00:26:43,739 --> 00:26:46,812
So Shane buried it in a
vacant lot in San Francisco
548
00:26:46,913 --> 00:26:49,784
where they had
torn a building up.
549
00:26:49,885 --> 00:26:52,957
Shane went on and did another
robbery and got arrested.
550
00:26:53,057 --> 00:26:55,396
I said, we have to tell
them where that gun is.
551
00:26:55,496 --> 00:26:56,431
And so he did it.
552
00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:58,101
He told them where the gun was.
553
00:26:58,201 --> 00:27:03,445
And that resulted in Carpenter
being tied to all the murders.
554
00:27:03,546 --> 00:27:07,219
ANA GARCIA: Finally, the
terror on the trails is over.
555
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,996
The courtroom battle to prove
he is the Trailside Killer
556
00:27:12,096 --> 00:27:13,431
has just begun.
557
00:27:13,532 --> 00:27:14,868
But there's so much more to do.
558
00:27:14,968 --> 00:27:16,606
Now come the trials.
559
00:27:16,706 --> 00:27:18,341
Can they prove it?
560
00:27:21,047 --> 00:27:22,517
[tense music, birds chirping]
561
00:27:22,617 --> 00:27:24,888
ANA GARCIA: Now that people
feel more comfortable to leave
562
00:27:24,988 --> 00:27:27,392
their homes and go
hiking and running again,
563
00:27:27,493 --> 00:27:31,602
prosecutors are working really
hard to build their cases
564
00:27:31,702 --> 00:27:33,238
against David Carpenter.
565
00:27:33,338 --> 00:27:35,510
David Carpenter says,
oh, I'm innocent,
566
00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:37,146
and I'm about to fight this.
567
00:27:37,246 --> 00:27:38,348
And he does.
568
00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:40,319
ESTHER LUDLOW: There would
actually be two trials
569
00:27:40,419 --> 00:27:42,222
for the Trailside Killing case.
570
00:27:42,322 --> 00:27:44,961
You had the Santa Cruz
County murders and then
571
00:27:45,061 --> 00:27:46,464
the Marin County murders.
572
00:27:46,566 --> 00:27:48,836
Because of how much
publicity there
573
00:27:48,936 --> 00:27:52,744
was in Northern California,
they actually moved the trials.
574
00:27:52,844 --> 00:27:55,750
[grim music]
575
00:27:56,885 --> 00:27:58,255
REPORTER: Carpenter, who
claims he is innocent,
576
00:27:58,355 --> 00:28:01,595
watched today as 24 jurors
filed into the courtroom.
577
00:28:01,695 --> 00:28:03,899
Prosecutors are asking
for the death penalty.
578
00:28:03,999 --> 00:28:08,175
This was the costliest
trial in California history,
579
00:28:08,275 --> 00:28:09,244
up to that point.
580
00:28:09,344 --> 00:28:11,448
So the first trial
in Los Angeles County
581
00:28:11,549 --> 00:28:15,590
was a very solid case because
you had the witness, Steven
582
00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:20,065
Haertle, who took the stand and
was able to vividly describe
583
00:28:20,165 --> 00:28:22,570
the entire crime from
beginning to end,
584
00:28:22,670 --> 00:28:24,140
and also, David Carpenter.
585
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,212
ATTORNEY: Would you point
him out for all of us?
586
00:28:34,761 --> 00:28:36,799
He came closer.
587
00:28:36,899 --> 00:28:38,603
We all moved closer.
588
00:28:38,703 --> 00:28:41,909
And he said that he
wanted to rape Ellen.
589
00:28:42,009 --> 00:28:47,186
I heard two shots and
didn't feel anything.
590
00:28:47,286 --> 00:28:52,063
And then I felt like somebody
hit my neck with a sledgehammer.
591
00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:54,100
And he's the one
person that says, yes,
592
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,137
I saw the guy that shot me.
593
00:28:56,237 --> 00:28:58,408
That man is right over
there in the courtroom.
594
00:28:58,509 --> 00:29:00,914
JUROR: We, the jury, in
the above entitled action,
595
00:29:01,014 --> 00:29:03,653
find the defendant,
David Joseph Carpenter,
596
00:29:03,753 --> 00:29:05,255
guilty of the crime of murder.
597
00:29:05,355 --> 00:29:08,161
David Joseph Carpenter shall
suffer the death penalty.
598
00:29:08,262 --> 00:29:10,800
If ever there was a case in
which the death penalty was
599
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:14,708
appropriate, this is that case.
600
00:29:14,808 --> 00:29:16,277
LISA RINNA: I saw him.
601
00:29:16,377 --> 00:29:20,853
You know, I went to the death
penalty trial when I was 21.
602
00:29:20,953 --> 00:29:23,458
It's very hard to
see someone who
603
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:26,097
has tried to kill your mother.
604
00:29:26,197 --> 00:29:29,738
ANA GARCIA: He had every
opportunity to speak, apologize,
605
00:29:29,838 --> 00:29:31,541
show remorse, and he didn't.
606
00:29:31,642 --> 00:29:35,148
If anything, he doubled down
on his claims of innocence.
607
00:29:35,248 --> 00:29:38,856
David Carpenter still faces
trial in five more cases,
608
00:29:38,956 --> 00:29:41,361
more rapes and murders,
this time on hiking
609
00:29:41,461 --> 00:29:42,864
trails in Marin County.
610
00:29:42,964 --> 00:29:45,201
That trial is
held in San Diego.
611
00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:50,680
JOHN ALDERSON: It lasted for
a little over four months.
612
00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:53,552
My mother went into
the courtroom every day
613
00:29:53,652 --> 00:29:55,923
because she wanted
the jury to see
614
00:29:56,023 --> 00:29:58,563
that her daughter,
Anne, had a face
615
00:29:58,663 --> 00:30:01,668
and that she was somebody
who mattered to a family.
616
00:30:01,768 --> 00:30:05,544
I joined my mother in San Diego,
and I sat across the courtroom
617
00:30:05,644 --> 00:30:06,945
from David Carpenter.
618
00:30:07,045 --> 00:30:08,849
In the San Diego trial,
David Carpenter would take
619
00:30:08,949 --> 00:30:10,820
the stand in his own defense.
620
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,058
He thought that
he could persuade
621
00:30:13,158 --> 00:30:15,428
a jury that he was not guilty.
622
00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:19,236
When David Carpenter takes the
stand, he claims he's innocent.
623
00:30:19,336 --> 00:30:23,411
He claims that he has
alibis for every murder.
624
00:30:23,512 --> 00:30:28,421
As of the first week in
October, after I got my Ch--
625
00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:32,598
Chevy stationwagon, I began
taking my father's Ch--
626
00:30:32,698 --> 00:30:34,132
Chevy.
627
00:30:34,233 --> 00:30:40,045
To be clear, Mr. Carpenter
has never admitted being guilty.
628
00:30:40,145 --> 00:30:42,984
The defense conceded there
was one Trailside Killer.
629
00:30:43,084 --> 00:30:45,990
Our defense just was that
it wasn't David Carpenter.
630
00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:47,961
They decided he was
guilty of everything,
631
00:30:48,061 --> 00:30:50,132
and they sentenced him
to death on everything.
632
00:30:50,232 --> 00:30:52,169
JUROR: We, the jury, in
the above entitled cause,
633
00:30:52,269 --> 00:30:57,312
determine that the penalty shall
be death, dated June 27, 1988.
634
00:30:57,412 --> 00:31:01,287
When the jury came
back, justice was served.
635
00:31:01,387 --> 00:31:03,693
[pensive music]
636
00:31:03,793 --> 00:31:06,966
ESTHER LUDLOW: David Carpenter,
as of date, is still alive.
637
00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:08,402
He's 95 years old.
638
00:31:08,503 --> 00:31:11,207
He was convicted and
sentenced to death.
639
00:31:11,307 --> 00:31:13,011
ANA GARCIA: David
Carpenter is moved
640
00:31:13,111 --> 00:31:14,982
to San Quentin's Death Row.
641
00:31:15,082 --> 00:31:17,921
Also housed at San
Quentin, Charles Manson,
642
00:31:18,021 --> 00:31:22,263
Sirhan Sirhan, William
Bonin, another serial killer.
643
00:31:22,363 --> 00:31:25,937
ESTHER LUDLOW: But as of last
year, he is unable to walk.
644
00:31:26,037 --> 00:31:26,906
He's very frail.
645
00:31:27,006 --> 00:31:28,341
He's very elderly.
646
00:31:28,441 --> 00:31:32,416
He was moved to a California
prison hospital facility
647
00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:33,652
where he still resides.
648
00:31:33,752 --> 00:31:36,892
A number of years ago,
our governor, Gavin Newsom,
649
00:31:36,992 --> 00:31:40,332
declared a moratorium
on all executions,
650
00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:44,340
but he's about to
have his term expire.
651
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,143
The next governor
can change that.
652
00:31:46,243 --> 00:31:49,250
To this day, David Carpenter
claims his innocence.
653
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:51,722
David Carpenter was
interviewed by KTVU Fox 2.
654
00:31:51,822 --> 00:31:54,427
What you're talking about is
something that was in the report
655
00:31:54,528 --> 00:31:59,571
that's 25 [stuttering]
you know, something
656
00:31:59,671 --> 00:32:01,942
that I did 25 years ago.
657
00:32:02,042 --> 00:32:03,812
REPORTER: And that
doesn't describe you now?
658
00:32:03,912 --> 00:32:05,215
No.
659
00:32:05,315 --> 00:32:07,821
Steven Haertle thinks that
I'm the Trailside Ki--
660
00:32:07,921 --> 00:32:08,823
Ki-- Killer.
661
00:32:08,923 --> 00:32:10,092
But the thing is this.
662
00:32:10,192 --> 00:32:12,864
The most imperfect
evidence that there is,
663
00:32:12,964 --> 00:32:15,368
is eyewitness testimony.
664
00:32:15,468 --> 00:32:18,776
I think the only thing that I
would request of David Carpenter
665
00:32:18,876 --> 00:32:20,646
is that give closure.
666
00:32:20,746 --> 00:32:23,986
If there are other victims
out there, it's time.
667
00:32:24,086 --> 00:32:25,488
Take accountability.
668
00:32:25,589 --> 00:32:28,962
Most investigators believe
that there are still victims
669
00:32:29,062 --> 00:32:31,101
of David Carpenter that
haven't been identified
670
00:32:31,201 --> 00:32:33,471
or conclusively tied to him.
671
00:32:33,572 --> 00:32:34,707
There are several.
672
00:32:34,807 --> 00:32:38,281
It took three decades to
link Mary Frances Bennett's
673
00:32:38,381 --> 00:32:40,451
death to David Carpenter.
674
00:32:40,552 --> 00:32:43,158
ESTHER LUDLOW: DNA evidence
would conclusively link
675
00:32:43,258 --> 00:32:45,930
him to that murder as well.
676
00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:48,068
Which makes you
think, could there
677
00:32:48,168 --> 00:32:49,905
be other victims out there?
678
00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:51,274
[pensive music]
679
00:32:51,374 --> 00:32:53,712
JOHN ALDERSON: I honestly
don't have anything
680
00:32:53,812 --> 00:32:55,416
I would say to David Carpenter.
681
00:32:55,517 --> 00:32:58,254
I don't wish him pain
in his situation,
682
00:32:58,354 --> 00:33:00,626
but I certainly don't
wish him well either.
683
00:33:00,726 --> 00:33:02,830
I don't know if I could
look him in the eye,
684
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:04,133
and I don't know
if I could speak
685
00:33:04,233 --> 00:33:06,772
to him, to be honest with you.
686
00:33:06,872 --> 00:33:08,441
Fuck off, you shitty old man.
687
00:33:08,542 --> 00:33:09,443
I hope you rot.
688
00:33:09,545 --> 00:33:11,749
[laughs] I hope
it's been miserable.
689
00:33:11,849 --> 00:33:14,353
[grim music]
690
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:20,399
JOHN ALDERSON: After
my sister was killed,
691
00:33:20,499 --> 00:33:23,405
my family and I and
others felt that it
692
00:33:23,506 --> 00:33:26,110
was important to get
back out on the trails
693
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:28,716
and reclaim the mountain.
694
00:33:28,816 --> 00:33:33,526
He had stolen my sister and
my life with her from me,
695
00:33:33,626 --> 00:33:39,170
and I wasn't gonna let him steal
anything else from my life.
696
00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:42,944
Right now, we're headed up
to a set of picnic benches
697
00:33:43,044 --> 00:33:44,480
that are by the parking lot.
698
00:33:44,581 --> 00:33:45,983
[poignant music]
699
00:33:46,083 --> 00:33:47,452
I've been told--
I've not seen it,
700
00:33:47,554 --> 00:33:49,757
but there's a plaque
in memory of all
701
00:33:49,857 --> 00:33:54,567
the women that were victims
of the Trailside Killer.
702
00:33:54,668 --> 00:33:57,773
And so I thought I'd come up
here and have a look for it.
703
00:34:00,478 --> 00:34:03,485
The plaque here reads
"Forever on the mountain,"
704
00:34:03,586 --> 00:34:09,998
and then it names the three
women that died in this area.
705
00:34:10,098 --> 00:34:13,305
Anne Alderson, age
26, from Terra Linda.
706
00:34:13,405 --> 00:34:15,275
"Love is never ending."
707
00:34:15,375 --> 00:34:17,814
I think that's a
really nice thing.
708
00:34:17,914 --> 00:34:27,900
[crying] I'm very proud, proud
that people would remember her.
709
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,773
And it's a lovely setting.
710
00:34:30,873 --> 00:34:34,681
And people always will
remember and enjoy this spot.
711
00:34:42,095 --> 00:34:44,132
[somber music]
712
00:35:19,036 --> 00:35:20,873
[theme music]
713
00:35:47,627 --> 00:35:50,666
[audio logo]