1 00:00:21,931 --> 00:00:22,865  - [Zach] I'm gonna record now.  2 00:00:22,965 --> 00:00:24,167  - [Taka] Okay.                  3 00:00:29,439 --> 00:00:30,173  - [Zach] Okay.                  4 00:00:30,273 --> 00:00:31,174 Because?                         5 00:00:40,616 --> 00:00:41,551  - [Zach] Okay.                  6 00:00:54,464 --> 00:00:55,798 - [Zach] Do you remember         7 00:00:55,898 --> 00:00:59,869 just like meeting me and          when that all happened?         8 00:03:10,766 --> 00:03:12,335 (car revving)                    9 00:03:18,941 --> 00:03:21,544 - Yeah, we dropped another         shelter off yesterday.         10 00:03:22,445 --> 00:03:25,748  (garage door whirring)          11 00:03:26,983 --> 00:03:29,418  But did get a complaint          from the neighbors.             12 00:03:29,518 --> 00:03:33,055 So now we can't have the garage  open while we're building.       13 00:03:33,155 --> 00:03:36,025  So everyone has to be. (laughs) 14 00:03:36,125 --> 00:03:37,393 So it's gonna be,                yeah, a little tight.            15 00:03:43,866 --> 00:03:46,969 (plastic crumpling)              16 00:03:47,069 --> 00:03:49,538  (loud thudding)                 17 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:51,941 Oh, man, I just smacked my head. 18 00:03:52,041 --> 00:03:54,777  (mellow music)                  19 00:04:16,899 --> 00:04:19,602 (rapid thumping)                 20 00:04:19,702 --> 00:04:21,270  (saw whirring)                  21 00:04:21,370 --> 00:04:22,638 (rapid thumping)                 22 00:04:22,738 --> 00:04:25,708 (drill whirring)                 23 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:30,646  (saw whirring)                  24 00:04:32,081 --> 00:04:35,584  (mellow music)                  25 00:04:35,685 --> 00:04:38,254  (loud clicking)                 26 00:04:46,896 --> 00:04:48,831  - [Radio Announcer 1] Well,      the pandemic has had an impact  27 00:04:48,931 --> 00:04:49,965 on all Canadians,                28 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:52,001   but it's hit those on a        low income especially hard.      29 00:04:52,101 --> 00:04:53,602 There's now a growing concern    30 00:04:53,703 --> 00:04:57,473 that the number of homeless      people in Canada may go up.      31 00:04:57,573 --> 00:04:58,974 - [Radio Announcer 2]            Visible encampments now,         32 00:04:59,075 --> 00:05:00,376 number more than a               hundred in Toronto               33 00:05:00,476 --> 00:05:02,378 because of the pandemic and      there are worries they'll grow.  34 00:05:02,478 --> 00:05:04,647 - [Radio Announcer 3] The        city of Toronto tells us         35 00:05:04,747 --> 00:05:05,981 they are currently                providing shelter               36 00:05:06,082 --> 00:05:07,216 to more than 7,500               people each night.               37 00:05:07,316 --> 00:05:10,619 But according to the             latest city data,                38 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,956  many of these shelters          are at over 99% capacity,        39 00:05:14,056 --> 00:05:16,158 including warming centers.       40 00:05:16,258 --> 00:05:18,627  - [Radio Interviewee] I         had to turn away 12 women        41 00:05:18,728 --> 00:05:21,430 into the cold because there      was nothing left in the system.  42 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:23,866 No violence against                women's spaces,                43 00:05:23,966 --> 00:05:25,401 no homeless shelter spaces.      44 00:05:25,501 --> 00:05:26,335 All I could do was               give them a blanket              45 00:05:26,435 --> 00:05:29,538 and ask them to stay              somewhere close by.             46 00:05:33,342 --> 00:05:36,545 - [Khaleel] Yeah.                Waiting for the cops             47 00:05:36,645 --> 00:05:37,513    to show up and be like,       what the fuck are you doing?     48 00:05:42,551 --> 00:05:46,222 Yeah, that's my worst concern     every time I come through.      49 00:05:54,764 --> 00:05:55,631 Every single time.               50 00:05:57,266 --> 00:05:58,934  (loud sighing)                  51 00:05:59,034 --> 00:06:02,805 (melancholic music)              52 00:06:12,481 --> 00:06:15,351  - [Khaleel] Can you              push it over the hump?          53 00:06:17,486 --> 00:06:18,387 Woo.                             54 00:06:18,487 --> 00:06:24,360 Okay.                            55 00:06:24,460 --> 00:06:25,394 Oh.                              56 00:06:25,494 --> 00:06:28,230 I think one of the               wheels isn't gonna turn.         57 00:06:47,316 --> 00:06:48,751 - [Zach] Do you remember         the first night?                 58 00:06:48,851 --> 00:06:49,585 - [Taka] Yep.                    59 00:07:03,098 --> 00:07:06,302 (melancholic music)              60 00:07:22,251 --> 00:07:24,820  (saw whirring)                  61 00:07:32,761 --> 00:07:35,231  (saw whirring)                  62 00:07:38,133 --> 00:07:41,904 (upbeat jazz music)              63 00:07:46,909 --> 00:07:49,478  (loud thumping)                 64 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,948  - [Khaleel] I'm tired.          65 00:07:53,415 --> 00:07:55,484 (Khaleel laughs)                 66 00:07:55,584 --> 00:07:58,254 - Oh, shit, dude,                I saw you on CBC.                67 00:07:58,354 --> 00:07:59,655  We were gonna like, try           and reach out to you           68 00:07:59,755 --> 00:08:00,289  about the tiny houses.          69 00:08:00,389 --> 00:08:02,224 - That's really cool.            70 00:08:02,324 --> 00:08:02,625 - [Neighbor] That's                 awesome, man.                 71 00:08:02,725 --> 00:08:03,893 - Fuck yeah.                     72 00:08:03,993 --> 00:08:04,994 - Oh my God.                        - Yeah.                       73 00:08:05,094 --> 00:08:06,061 Very cool.                       - There's a GoFundMe page.       74 00:08:06,161 --> 00:08:07,830 - Yeah. Okay, cool.              75 00:08:07,930 --> 00:08:09,999  - [Tony] So he's gonna be       over here for a little bit.      76 00:08:10,099 --> 00:08:12,034 - Are you building here?         77 00:08:12,134 --> 00:08:12,635  - [Khaleel] Yeah. Yeah.         78 00:08:12,735 --> 00:08:14,203 - Are you kidding me?            79 00:08:14,303 --> 00:08:15,871  - That's amazing, dude.         80 00:08:15,971 --> 00:08:16,872 Yes, Tony.                       81 00:08:16,972 --> 00:08:19,041 (Khaleel laughs)                 82 00:08:19,141 --> 00:08:20,042  Tony's a great landlord         83 00:08:20,142 --> 00:08:23,212  and I know he'll treat            you guys really well           84 00:08:23,312 --> 00:08:24,346 because this is important.        - That's awesome.               85 00:08:24,446 --> 00:08:27,049 - Our city is in                 crisis right now                 86 00:08:27,149 --> 00:08:28,951 with the amount of homelessness. 87 00:08:29,051 --> 00:08:32,254 - But we got lots of, lots of    places they can stay though.     88 00:08:32,354 --> 00:08:33,589 They just don't want to.         89 00:08:33,689 --> 00:08:35,057 - Yeah. Some people                don't want to--                90 00:08:35,157 --> 00:08:36,492 - Yeah. But there's also         a pandemic happening             91 00:08:36,592 --> 00:08:39,061 and those like, the              services aren't, you know?       92 00:08:39,161 --> 00:08:40,195  - Yeah.                          - If you looked inside          93 00:08:40,296 --> 00:08:41,196  one of those homeless shelters, 94 00:08:41,297 --> 00:08:43,365    they're tough.                - Not the homeless shelters.     95 00:08:43,465 --> 00:08:45,401 They wanna give them hotels,        actual hotels, spares,        96 00:08:45,501 --> 00:08:47,670 spare rooms and everything else. 97 00:08:47,770 --> 00:08:48,804  - That's great.                 98 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:51,173  - There's certain               conditions with it as well.      99 00:08:51,273 --> 00:08:52,841 - [Tony] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 00:08:52,942 --> 00:08:54,310 I'm sure there is.               101 00:08:55,177 --> 00:08:58,814 (foreboding music)               102 00:10:20,295 --> 00:10:23,465 - [Zach] Talk more               about it, will you?              103 00:10:30,372 --> 00:10:33,809  (saw whirring)                  104 00:10:41,784 --> 00:10:44,186  (saw whirring)                  105 00:10:49,258 --> 00:10:51,360  (phone dinging)                 106 00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:53,429 - Partnership discussion.        107 00:10:54,496 --> 00:10:55,898  "I work at the city of Toronto  108 00:10:55,998 --> 00:10:58,300 and I have been following         your progress and story         109 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,735 since October 2nd.               110 00:10:59,835 --> 00:11:01,670 And I'm very happy to hear       that outpouring of support       111 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:03,505 for people living                outside. You're inspiring        a lot of people.                 112 00:11:03,605 --> 00:11:04,873 I'd like to have a                meeting with you,               113 00:11:04,973 --> 00:11:08,010    be able to discuss the        possibility of a partnership.    114 00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:09,578 The city has some problems       115 00:11:09,678 --> 00:11:12,181 and you're obviously               very innovative.               116 00:11:12,281 --> 00:11:14,116 Just gaging your interest           in such a meeting,            117 00:11:14,216 --> 00:11:15,751 hoping that we can               have a discussion."              118 00:11:15,851 --> 00:11:17,820  That's so interesting.            That is interesting.           119 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,354  "Please let me know              if you are interested.          120 00:11:19,455 --> 00:11:22,024 My availability is variable,     121 00:11:22,124 --> 00:11:24,093 so if you can send me            a few dates and times            122 00:11:24,193 --> 00:11:25,828  that work for you,              if you're interested,            123 00:11:25,928 --> 00:11:28,664 of course, then I can try        to make something work."         124 00:11:30,099 --> 00:11:33,435 We're City Toronto               first response. (laughs)         125 00:11:33,535 --> 00:11:35,771  It's like, let's work together. 126 00:11:35,871 --> 00:11:38,006 That's interesting. I feel         so much less stressed.         127 00:11:38,107 --> 00:11:39,041 Wow.                             128 00:11:41,009 --> 00:11:42,211  - [Companion 1] I mean,         129 00:11:42,311 --> 00:11:44,279  it seems good that              they're reaching out.            130 00:11:44,379 --> 00:11:45,681 - For the first time.            131 00:11:45,781 --> 00:11:48,117 - [Companion 1] Like,            it means that they're            132 00:11:48,217 --> 00:11:49,151    really paying                 attention, I guess.              133 00:11:49,251 --> 00:11:50,018  - Yeah.                         134 00:11:50,119 --> 00:11:51,587  And like, I like                that he says like,               135 00:11:51,687 --> 00:11:53,188 "On behalf of the                City of Toronto."                136 00:11:53,288 --> 00:11:55,290 It's like they're speaking         as the city of Toronto.        137 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:56,225 It's like, this is our response. 138 00:11:56,325 --> 00:11:59,261 It's like, "Okay, we             wanna work with you."            139 00:11:59,361 --> 00:12:00,963 It's like, that is fucking cool. 140 00:12:01,063 --> 00:12:01,697  (keys jiggling)                 141 00:12:01,797 --> 00:12:02,531 - [Zach] Where are you gonna be? 142 00:12:02,631 --> 00:12:03,432  Where is it okay for me to be?  143 00:12:03,532 --> 00:12:06,702 - I'm gonna be right here.       144 00:12:07,936 --> 00:12:08,704 It's 4:15.                       145 00:12:09,538 --> 00:12:11,273 Enter the meeting password.      146 00:12:17,246 --> 00:12:18,046 Oh my God.                       147 00:12:18,147 --> 00:12:19,081 Okay.                            148 00:12:24,453 --> 00:12:25,354 - [Operator] Okay.                One quick second.               149 00:12:25,454 --> 00:12:26,655 I'm gonna merge you in. Okay?    150 00:12:26,755 --> 00:12:27,689 - Oh, okay.                      151 00:12:30,092 --> 00:12:30,893 - [Community Manager]               You know, Zach,               152 00:12:30,993 --> 00:12:32,127  I guess is doing a documentary  153 00:12:32,227 --> 00:12:37,866 or something and he wanted to    film the conversation today.     154 00:12:38,867 --> 00:12:39,835 And so, you know,                155 00:12:39,935 --> 00:12:43,038 in terms of port and from          the city perspective,          156 00:12:43,138 --> 00:12:46,508 we have to go through approvals  for those kind of things.        157 00:12:46,608 --> 00:12:48,677   So we don't have               approval to do that.             158 00:12:48,777 --> 00:12:49,578 And so like they,                159 00:12:49,678 --> 00:12:50,846 you know, just to                make sure, like,                 160 00:12:50,946 --> 00:12:54,249 can you confirm that it's          just the three of us.          161 00:12:54,349 --> 00:12:56,852  Is there anyone else there      are on the call on your end?     162 00:12:56,952 --> 00:12:58,187 - No, it's just me.              163 00:12:58,287 --> 00:12:59,988  - [Program Manager] You          know, in terms of like,         164 00:13:00,088 --> 00:13:05,861  you know, camping in parks      and on right of way passages.    165 00:13:05,961 --> 00:13:09,865 There's a city by-law that         doesn't allow for that.        166 00:13:09,965 --> 00:13:11,200 That includes, you know,         167 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:13,335 tents, but as well as            like the structures,             168 00:13:15,204 --> 00:13:16,538 you know, that you've built.     169 00:13:16,638 --> 00:13:17,873  Do you have a name              for them, by the way?            170 00:13:17,973 --> 00:13:20,776 - I guess I've been              calling them tiny shelters.      171 00:13:20,876 --> 00:13:22,110 - [Program Manager]              You know, hats off.              172 00:13:22,211 --> 00:13:26,114 I'm really, really impressed       with what you have done,       173 00:13:26,215 --> 00:13:29,351 just personally and              professionally to be some,       174 00:13:29,451 --> 00:13:32,387 you know, a humble guy that        grew up in Scarborough,        175 00:13:32,487 --> 00:13:33,856  did some construction,          176 00:13:33,956 --> 00:13:36,859 knows how to do something          and put it into play.          177 00:13:38,894 --> 00:13:41,663 I'm really, really impressed     178 00:13:41,763 --> 00:13:44,733   and I think that your heart's   definitely in the right place.  179 00:13:44,833 --> 00:13:46,034 - If it's like -10, -15,         180 00:13:46,134 --> 00:13:49,404  like, you're gonna want         a consistent heat source         181 00:13:49,504 --> 00:13:52,374  unless you're going to          be somewhere that's warm.        182 00:13:52,474 --> 00:13:54,910 And I guess, the shelters           that I'm building,            183 00:13:55,010 --> 00:13:57,679   these are designed to           be heated by your body.         184 00:13:57,779 --> 00:13:58,747 It's like,                       185 00:13:58,847 --> 00:14:01,683 they will have somewhere         that's consistently warm.        186 00:14:01,783 --> 00:14:02,985  - [Program Manager] This        is, you know, like I said,       187 00:14:03,085 --> 00:14:05,654  the first of hopefully many      conversations where we can try  188 00:14:05,754 --> 00:14:08,891  to figure out where              this partnership lies,          189 00:14:08,991 --> 00:14:09,992 if there is a partnership.       190 00:14:10,092 --> 00:14:11,994  And I really hope that there is 191 00:14:12,094 --> 00:14:14,329  because I think that what       you're doing is really cool      192 00:14:14,429 --> 00:14:17,032  and innovative and              I think that we need             193 00:14:17,132 --> 00:14:18,533 that kind of innovation.         194 00:14:18,634 --> 00:14:19,935 - Ah.                            195 00:14:20,035 --> 00:14:20,969 - [Zach] What do you think?      196 00:14:21,069 --> 00:14:24,339 - I was surprised by how          long winded they were.          197 00:14:24,439 --> 00:14:26,341 I thought they'd                 be more concise.                 198 00:14:27,309 --> 00:14:28,710  - Okay.                         - A little more.                 199 00:14:45,694 --> 00:14:48,263  (phone dinging)                 200 00:14:49,498 --> 00:14:52,100 (melancholic piano music)        201 00:15:16,258 --> 00:15:18,327 The City of Toronto               therefore demands               202 00:15:18,427 --> 00:15:21,964  that you immediately cease      the production, distribution,    203 00:15:22,064 --> 00:15:26,068 supply and installation of       such shelters on city property.  204 00:15:26,168 --> 00:15:27,569 - [CBC Journalist] The city      didn't respond to requests       205 00:15:27,669 --> 00:15:29,204 for comment from CBC News.       206 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:31,740  Its letter did say,              "If the shelters remain         207 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,209 on public property, legal         action could be taken."         208 00:15:35,677 --> 00:15:36,578 - You know,                      209 00:15:36,678 --> 00:15:38,080 what happened when someone       gets into a shelter              210 00:15:38,180 --> 00:15:40,749 and then they get                evicted for violating            211 00:15:40,849 --> 00:15:43,085  whatever restrictions and then, 212 00:15:43,185 --> 00:15:45,754 they leave the shelter and        they don't have anything.       213 00:15:45,854 --> 00:15:47,089 Like, all of their                 stuff is gone.                 214 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:49,858 Like, what actually              happens to those people?         215 00:15:49,958 --> 00:15:51,860 It's been surprise,              216 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,429 considering they sent            me an earlier email,             217 00:15:54,529 --> 00:15:55,998 discussing a partnership,        218 00:15:56,098 --> 00:15:59,134 but I understand that there's    quite a bit of disconnection     219 00:15:59,234 --> 00:16:02,637 between different departments       in the City of Toronto.       220 00:16:02,738 --> 00:16:06,975  - I've always opposed this      kind of structure or solution    221 00:16:07,075 --> 00:16:09,778  and in the last month,          222 00:16:09,878 --> 00:16:12,314 I've done a complete 360         223 00:16:12,414 --> 00:16:17,319 because I really feel that       city is failing drastically      224 00:16:18,587 --> 00:16:21,356 and that this is a               lifesaving measure.              225 00:16:21,456 --> 00:16:24,426   - Lastly, I just wanna         ask why you're doing this?       226 00:16:26,328 --> 00:16:27,963  - [Maisonneuve Journalist]      You mentioned how, you know,     227 00:16:28,063 --> 00:16:29,398  part of the reason               why you do what you do          228 00:16:29,498 --> 00:16:32,467 or at least feel                  motivated to do that is         229 00:16:32,567 --> 00:16:34,903  because you've                  experienced homelessness         230 00:16:35,003 --> 00:16:36,338 to a certain degree yourself.    231 00:16:36,438 --> 00:16:37,806 And I was wondering              232 00:16:37,906 --> 00:16:40,642 if you would be comfortable       talking more about that.        233 00:16:40,742 --> 00:16:42,844  - I stayed in this              tent for five months             234 00:16:42,944 --> 00:16:46,648  during the winter of Vancouver. 235 00:16:46,748 --> 00:16:48,116 In Vancouver and,                236 00:16:49,317 --> 00:16:50,685 yeah, it was interesting.        237 00:16:50,786 --> 00:16:53,855 It was just something             I never did before              238 00:16:53,955 --> 00:16:55,357 and                              239 00:16:55,457 --> 00:16:56,558  it was just surprising,         240 00:16:56,658 --> 00:16:58,994 the challenges that                sort of came up                241 00:16:59,094 --> 00:17:03,932  that I didn't really anticipate  and just, yeah, living,         242 00:17:04,032 --> 00:17:07,936  just finding a way to live       and still work and save money.  243 00:17:08,036 --> 00:17:09,871  I figured I'd be able to do it  244 00:17:09,971 --> 00:17:12,874  in a fashion that I was         comfortable enough to do.        245 00:17:12,974 --> 00:17:16,044 But it was one of                the most challenging             things I've ever did,            246 00:17:16,144 --> 00:17:16,912  I've ever done.                 247 00:17:23,218 --> 00:17:25,420 (melancholic music)              248 00:17:53,014 --> 00:17:53,915 (wheels rattling)                249 00:17:54,015 --> 00:17:56,051 (Khaleel grunts)                 250 00:17:56,151 --> 00:17:58,720  (cart rattling)                 251 00:18:14,035 --> 00:18:15,036 - [Inquirer] Sorry, I was        just at my friend's today        252 00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:18,406 'cause it's kind of              going crazy there.               253 00:18:18,507 --> 00:18:21,076 - Yeah. It's pretty                shitty though.                 254 00:18:21,176 --> 00:18:23,411  - [Inquirer] Yeah. So I         was talking to my friend         255 00:18:23,512 --> 00:18:25,447   between the two of us          and he was kind of saying        256 00:18:25,547 --> 00:18:26,781  with Christie Pitts is          257 00:18:28,183 --> 00:18:32,120  not a, like the city might get   mad at us there especially.     258 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:33,155  - Yeah.                         259 00:18:34,356 --> 00:18:35,991 - [Inquirer] So what were          you thinking would be          260 00:18:36,091 --> 00:18:37,959 probably the safest spot?        261 00:18:38,059 --> 00:18:38,994  - Well,                         262 00:18:40,028 --> 00:18:41,796 in terms of safety, I mean,      263 00:18:41,897 --> 00:18:44,766  if you don't want to be         around a bunch of people,        264 00:18:44,866 --> 00:18:45,500 I think Allan Garden.               - Yeah.                       265 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,902  I'm a really quiet guy.         266 00:18:47,002 --> 00:18:48,170  - Okay.                         267 00:18:48,270 --> 00:18:50,405 I think Allen Gardens            would be a good spot.            268 00:18:52,407 --> 00:18:54,643  - [Inquirer] I just             came in from Barrie.             269 00:18:54,743 --> 00:18:56,344 I actually lost my               place due to COVID               270 00:18:56,444 --> 00:18:59,915   because there's been            no work back out there.         271 00:19:00,015 --> 00:19:00,749  - Okay.                         272 00:19:01,416 --> 00:19:04,286 - [Inquirer] Yeah. So I'm trying 273 00:19:04,386 --> 00:19:05,854 to look here on Google Maps.     274 00:19:05,954 --> 00:19:07,923 Is that near Bloor at all?       275 00:19:08,023 --> 00:19:09,491 (melancholic music)              276 00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:22,637 - [News Announcer]                The city is under               277 00:19:22,737 --> 00:19:24,339  an extreme cold weather alert.  278 00:19:24,439 --> 00:19:27,609  So this cold air really taking    over here in southern Ontario  279 00:19:27,709 --> 00:19:29,411  and it's going to stick          around for a while.             280 00:19:29,511 --> 00:19:31,213 Let's take a look at             the satellite radar.             281 00:19:31,313 --> 00:19:34,115 Current temperatures             across Southern Ontario.         282 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:37,352  My goodness, we are sitting     in those minus double digits     283 00:19:37,452 --> 00:19:38,620  and we are going to stay there, 284 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,459 not just for the next couple     of days but really. (mumbles)    285 00:19:47,062 --> 00:19:50,865 (melancholic music)              286 00:20:15,523 --> 00:20:17,425  (car whirring)                  287 00:20:17,525 --> 00:20:18,260 - Is it here.                    - Mh-hmm.                        288 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:19,461  - It is down this little path.  289 00:20:19,561 --> 00:20:22,097  I literally carried all          the sheets of plywood,          290 00:20:22,197 --> 00:20:23,431 everything and just all the 2x6. 291 00:20:23,531 --> 00:20:25,934    I was just walking like       this and then the generator,     292 00:20:26,034 --> 00:20:28,370 all the tools, everything.       293 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:29,704  This is the very                first one I built.               294 00:20:38,647 --> 00:20:38,713  Yeah, they put a notice on it.  295 00:20:41,216 --> 00:20:43,585  So this is how we communicate.  296 00:20:47,355 --> 00:20:50,058  This is how we communicate now. 297 00:20:50,158 --> 00:20:50,592  Trespass notice                 298 00:20:52,227 --> 00:20:55,030 under the. (mumbles)             299 00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:57,632   So do camp large, no           prison to place in store.        300 00:20:57,732 --> 00:21:00,068   Attach this is                 the law. (mumbles)               301 00:21:00,168 --> 00:21:02,137 This is the law.                 302 00:21:07,075 --> 00:21:08,510 Activities,                      303 00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:10,979  enforcement may include removal 304 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:11,880 or disposal.                     305 00:21:13,348 --> 00:21:15,650 These guys aren't                 enforcing shit.                 306 00:21:16,751 --> 00:21:18,486 These are the handles            I've been putting in.            307 00:21:22,023 --> 00:21:22,824  Hello?                          308 00:21:23,558 --> 00:21:24,759  Yeah, someone's been using it.  309 00:21:27,429 --> 00:21:33,401  That's amazing.                 310 00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:33,735 That's fucking cool.             311 00:21:36,271 --> 00:21:37,639 And they've been painting.       312 00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:43,978 I'm happy about that.            313 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:44,612  There's no latch or              lock or anything on it.         314 00:21:47,415 --> 00:21:48,683 It could be coming back.         315 00:21:52,954 --> 00:21:54,823  Cool. (laughs)                  316 00:21:54,923 --> 00:21:56,191 Good news.                       317 00:21:56,291 --> 00:21:57,459 There. You guys wanna go?        318 00:21:57,559 --> 00:21:58,960  - [Zach] So where               you built the shop?              319 00:21:59,060 --> 00:21:59,427 - This is where I built it.      320 00:22:02,263 --> 00:22:02,597  Someone is using this.          321 00:22:05,266 --> 00:22:06,534  That's so nice.                 322 00:22:56,217 --> 00:22:57,252 - [Radio News Announcer]          Let's move on to a story about  323 00:22:57,352 --> 00:22:59,421   a man that we had on the       show at 4:45 this afternoon.     324 00:22:59,521 --> 00:23:01,589   He's a carpenter. His          name's Khaleel Seivwright        325 00:23:01,689 --> 00:23:05,360 and he's the guy who built       some Toronto Tiny Shelters.      326 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:06,294   These are places for            people with no housing          327 00:23:06,394 --> 00:23:08,696 to be comfortable                during the cold weather.         328 00:23:08,797 --> 00:23:10,365  He's built some in city parks.  329 00:23:10,465 --> 00:23:12,033  He's done a GoFundMe for this.  330 00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:14,135   It's been overwhelming,        the support that he's got.       331 00:23:14,235 --> 00:23:15,170 He was on the show today         332 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:16,971 and he said that he heard          from the city twice.           333 00:23:17,071 --> 00:23:18,506  The first time he heard         from the city was saying,        334 00:23:18,606 --> 00:23:19,808 "What a great idea,              335 00:23:19,908 --> 00:23:21,943 maybe we can do some             type of partnership."            336 00:23:22,043 --> 00:23:23,912 And then he said the second      correspondence that he got,      337 00:23:24,012 --> 00:23:25,113  in the form of an                email was telling him,          338 00:23:25,213 --> 00:23:28,049 you know, to basically cease     and desist. And if he didn't,    339 00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:30,819 he'd be then charged with        the cost for tearing down        340 00:23:30,919 --> 00:23:33,488 these structures. I'm wondering  if this story came across        341 00:23:33,588 --> 00:23:35,423 your desk and what               your thoughts were.              342 00:23:35,523 --> 00:23:36,491 - [Mayor Tory] Yes, and look,    343 00:23:36,591 --> 00:23:39,427 we are seized of the              homelessness issue.             344 00:23:39,527 --> 00:23:42,864 We've already been successful    at moving 1100 people            345 00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:43,998 out of encampments,              346 00:23:44,098 --> 00:23:46,301 which I think most people          find to be not a safe          347 00:23:46,401 --> 00:23:49,137  or a proper answer               into permanent housing          348 00:23:49,237 --> 00:23:50,138  or alternative housing.         349 00:23:50,238 --> 00:23:53,007 There's about 400 people         left in encampments              350 00:23:53,107 --> 00:23:54,809 and what is proposed here is      to build these structures,      351 00:23:54,909 --> 00:23:57,612  which the fire department,      not me and not the activists.    352 00:23:57,712 --> 00:24:00,748 I mean, if I had a               choice between advocates         353 00:24:00,849 --> 00:24:02,417 as much as I respect              the role they play              354 00:24:02,517 --> 00:24:03,618  and the fire department           in telling us                  355 00:24:03,718 --> 00:24:05,286 what's safe and what isn't.      356 00:24:05,386 --> 00:24:06,488   They say these                 structures are made              357 00:24:06,588 --> 00:24:08,790 out of very unsafe material.     It's very flammable.             358 00:24:08,890 --> 00:24:11,059 The second thing that            has that is clear is             359 00:24:11,159 --> 00:24:12,327 they're not going to be ideal    360 00:24:12,427 --> 00:24:14,863  from the standpoint of            other kinds of safety          361 00:24:14,963 --> 00:24:16,197 and sanitation issues            362 00:24:16,297 --> 00:24:19,601  because they're little, you     know, little structures that,    363 00:24:19,701 --> 00:24:21,469  and then the third               issue is whether or not         364 00:24:21,569 --> 00:24:23,471  it is going to be                just deemed acceptable          365 00:24:23,571 --> 00:24:25,974  for us to be having             those put up in parks            366 00:24:26,074 --> 00:24:28,576 where people choose to put        those kinds of things up.       367 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,820 (Khaleel laughs)                 368 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,455  - [Khaleel] That's funny, yeah. 369 00:24:40,555 --> 00:24:41,990 - [Zach] And then                you can put this                 370 00:24:42,090 --> 00:24:43,124 in your pocket if you want.      371 00:24:43,224 --> 00:24:43,625 - [Interviewee] Okay.            372 00:24:43,725 --> 00:24:45,159  - [Zach] Okay.                  373 00:24:45,260 --> 00:24:45,994 Alright.                         374 00:24:48,596 --> 00:24:51,299 - [Khaleel] So how is staying      in the tiny shelter made       375 00:24:51,399 --> 00:24:52,200 a difference for you?            376 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,036  - It's warmer.                  377 00:24:55,136 --> 00:24:56,104 Yes. It's like a,                378 00:24:57,972 --> 00:25:01,209  just fair, it's like I          felt the floor is better         379 00:25:01,309 --> 00:25:03,244  than the tent.                  380 00:25:03,344 --> 00:25:06,681  You know, the feeling is just,  381 00:25:06,781 --> 00:25:07,582 the whole feeling is better       than I thought, you know.       382 00:25:07,682 --> 00:25:09,417 At the beginning I                thought maybe we,               383 00:25:09,517 --> 00:25:12,420  it's no fresh air or something, 384 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,657  but actually, it's quite good.  385 00:25:19,327 --> 00:25:20,094 (Dorothy and Khaleel laughs)     386 00:25:20,194 --> 00:25:21,763 - When I first got here,         387 00:25:21,863 --> 00:25:25,033 I used to wake up shivering      in the middle of the night.      388 00:25:25,133 --> 00:25:29,404 Every few hours I have to        go around and walk for like,     389 00:25:29,504 --> 00:25:31,706 however long until I             got my body heat back up         390 00:25:31,806 --> 00:25:34,876 just to fall asleep              again, wake up cold again.       391 00:25:34,976 --> 00:25:38,846 I have not had a single night      shivering in this house.       392 00:25:40,848 --> 00:25:41,549 Every night,                     393 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:47,255 I sleep like a baby                and ever since,                394 00:25:47,355 --> 00:25:47,855  so I have problems with         395 00:25:50,058 --> 00:25:52,860 psychosis and things like        that when I stop sleeping        396 00:25:52,961 --> 00:25:56,531    and when I'm under            immense amounts of stress        397 00:25:56,631 --> 00:25:59,767   and all the rest of it.        And when I have this place,      398 00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:02,437    all my stress                 started to go down.              399 00:26:02,537 --> 00:26:03,871 I've been getting                back into a routine.             400 00:26:03,972 --> 00:26:06,908 I've been sleeping solid         hours every single night,        401 00:26:07,008 --> 00:26:11,946 going to bed, waking up and       I just feel more healthy,       402 00:26:13,915 --> 00:26:15,249 more like, I just can            actually have a life             403 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:16,651 and a routine and not            always having to be,             404 00:26:16,751 --> 00:26:18,820 feel like I have to              fight for my life.               405 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,724   - Like I haven't               always lived homeless            406 00:26:22,824 --> 00:26:26,260 so I know what it's like         to own property and stuff        407 00:26:26,361 --> 00:26:27,195  and it's a lot of work.         408 00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:29,263 There's people think                like the people               409 00:26:29,364 --> 00:26:30,498  that have got all this           money and whatnot,              410 00:26:30,598 --> 00:26:32,266 their big houses and they         don't do nothing like,          411 00:26:32,367 --> 00:26:35,637  but really, it's a lot of work   to take care of that stuff.     412 00:26:35,737 --> 00:26:38,506 And like even though it's        a small version of that,         413 00:26:38,606 --> 00:26:39,540 it's my small version of it      414 00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:42,076  and I feel the same              way about it, you know,         415 00:26:42,176 --> 00:26:47,015  so I like, find myself like      cleaning up the yard and like,  416 00:26:47,115 --> 00:26:49,317 just making little               improvements here and there      417 00:26:49,417 --> 00:26:51,219 and decorating and you know,     418 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:52,987 and just makes you                feel more normal,               419 00:26:54,389 --> 00:26:59,927 more of a normal                    person. Normalizes             things and just, yeah,          420 00:27:00,028 --> 00:27:00,962 it's just, I don't know.         421 00:27:01,062 --> 00:27:01,095  It feels good.                  422 00:27:03,564 --> 00:27:04,699 - This is all I own.             423 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,802 This is all I have               but this is my home              424 00:27:07,902 --> 00:27:08,970 and I'm in a great               country that I love              425 00:27:10,471 --> 00:27:15,510  and I've been under             the circumstances of              COVID and pandemic.             426 00:27:16,544 --> 00:27:18,112  This is my shelter box,         427 00:27:18,212 --> 00:27:20,348  this is where I am and this is    what I have and this is good.  428 00:27:20,448 --> 00:27:21,315  It's the best thing              that has ever happened          429 00:27:21,416 --> 00:27:24,519 because it's safe                against all the elements,        430 00:27:24,619 --> 00:27:27,989 even the physical elements.      431 00:27:28,089 --> 00:27:28,523 Yeah.                            432 00:27:28,623 --> 00:27:29,857 The nasty people.                433 00:27:31,659 --> 00:27:33,494 Want to come and bang your       door in the middle of the night  434 00:27:33,594 --> 00:27:36,197 and rip your tent.               435 00:27:36,297 --> 00:27:37,632 This one,                        436 00:27:37,732 --> 00:27:39,467   if they hit it, they can       hit it as hard as they like.     437 00:27:39,567 --> 00:27:41,636  But I'm okay in there.          438 00:27:41,736 --> 00:27:44,172    Just zip my mouth and         I'll be up in the morning.       439 00:27:47,108 --> 00:27:49,110 (melancholic music)              440 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:32,353 - [Zach] What are                the comments like                441 00:28:32,453 --> 00:28:33,688 on the testimonials video?       442 00:28:33,788 --> 00:28:35,523  - Oh, just lots of weird shit.  443 00:28:35,623 --> 00:28:36,624 Just lots of yuppie              shit. I don't know.              444 00:28:36,724 --> 00:28:38,226 - [Zach] Like what?              445 00:28:38,326 --> 00:28:42,130  - This is gonna bring down the   value of my house. (laughs)     446 00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:44,432 Like, all these homeless people  living across the street.        447 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,702 - [Zach] Really?                 448 00:28:47,802 --> 00:28:49,270 They're saying that?                - Yeah.                       449 00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:50,705  You know and it's just            like so interesting.           450 00:28:50,805 --> 00:28:54,275 I like seeing the negative       comments more than anything      451 00:28:54,375 --> 00:28:55,877 because it's just                 so interesting.                 452 00:28:55,977 --> 00:28:57,445  It's like, yeah, that's           your biggest concern.          453 00:28:57,545 --> 00:28:59,814  It is.                          454 00:28:59,914 --> 00:29:00,615  And it is and it's like         they're just being honest        455 00:29:00,715 --> 00:29:03,451   and it's like,                 that's reasonable,               456 00:29:03,551 --> 00:29:05,086 that that is your                biggest concern.                 457 00:29:05,186 --> 00:29:09,524  You know, it's like             what a lovely person.            458 00:29:14,862 --> 00:29:16,731 - [Zach] Do you want to just     459 00:29:16,831 --> 00:29:18,299 tell us where you live and.      460 00:29:20,701 --> 00:29:24,071 - I live right beside Alexandra  Park at Bathurst, Dundas,        461 00:29:24,172 --> 00:29:28,242   and I've been resident         there since November 2019.       462 00:29:28,342 --> 00:29:30,111  - [Zach] Are there              any specific moments             463 00:29:30,211 --> 00:29:32,146  that stick out for you?         464 00:29:32,246 --> 00:29:32,547  - [Valentina] There are a lot.  465 00:29:36,050 --> 00:29:37,418 First one would be,              466 00:29:37,518 --> 00:29:40,955  it was one in the morning       I was trying to fall asleep      467 00:29:41,055 --> 00:29:44,225  and there was a bunch of        partying and music playing       468 00:29:44,325 --> 00:29:45,760 and then I thought,              469 00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:48,796  "Oh my god they're now          doing fireworks, really?"        470 00:29:48,896 --> 00:29:54,001   I look out of the window       and a whole tent was on fire     471 00:29:55,203 --> 00:29:57,171 and there were things inside     the tent that were exploding.    472 00:29:57,805 --> 00:30:00,174 (loud explosions)                473 00:30:00,274 --> 00:30:01,676 - [News Announcer] Bright        flames beside a condo complex    474 00:30:01,776 --> 00:30:03,678 near Dundas West in Bathurst.    475 00:30:03,778 --> 00:30:05,279    A tent in the                 homeless encampment              476 00:30:05,379 --> 00:30:07,815  at Alexandra Park was on fire.  477 00:30:07,915 --> 00:30:11,385 - After that, the owners and     residents at the complex,        478 00:30:11,485 --> 00:30:15,156 we all just started                to report fires                479 00:30:15,256 --> 00:30:16,524 or anything close to a fire      480 00:30:16,624 --> 00:30:19,660 'cause we were just               all freaked out.                481 00:30:20,928 --> 00:30:24,165  It was a rude awakening          for me, just to realize         482 00:30:24,265 --> 00:30:26,667 that we're not safe at all.      483 00:30:26,767 --> 00:30:27,535 Like, we're not safe at all.     484 00:30:31,639 --> 00:30:34,675 (melancholic music)              485 00:30:52,159 --> 00:30:53,394 - They removed one.              486 00:30:53,494 --> 00:30:53,628  - [Zach] Yeah.                  487 00:30:58,266 --> 00:30:59,066 - Do you know where from?        488 00:30:59,166 --> 00:31:00,234  - [Zach] Yeah.                  489 00:31:00,334 --> 00:31:01,736 - Where?                         - Victoria Park.                 490 00:31:01,836 --> 00:31:02,837  - They took it.                 491 00:31:05,306 --> 00:31:06,173 Shit.                            492 00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:09,510  And they're just taking         into a fucking landfill.         493 00:31:12,213 --> 00:31:14,181 These people are so useless.     494 00:31:16,684 --> 00:31:17,919  - [Michael] 30 seconds.         495 00:31:18,986 --> 00:31:20,621 - We're good. We're good.         - Okay.                         496 00:31:20,721 --> 00:31:22,690 - So good morning everyone.      497 00:31:22,790 --> 00:31:26,060 I'd like to call this            meeting to order.                498 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,229 My name is Michael Thompson,     499 00:31:28,329 --> 00:31:30,298  councilor and I am the chair of 500 00:31:30,398 --> 00:31:35,036 the Economic and Community         Development Committee.         501 00:31:35,136 --> 00:31:39,407  I'd like to welcome all         the members of committee         502 00:31:39,507 --> 00:31:43,277  and also members of the public. 503 00:31:43,377 --> 00:31:44,979 We currently have for             this meeting today,             504 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:50,885   in excess of 70                speakers on items.               505 00:31:50,985 --> 00:31:55,289 I will keep the speakers          list open, Madam Clerk,         506 00:31:55,389 --> 00:31:58,592 on until about 10:30             and we will close it off         507 00:31:58,693 --> 00:32:00,928 at that particular--               - That's hectic.               508 00:32:01,028 --> 00:32:02,096 This is gonna be so long.        509 00:32:02,196 --> 00:32:03,564 - [Clerk] Attend is amendment    510 00:32:03,664 --> 00:32:07,401  to the blanket contract          number, 47022687,               511 00:32:07,501 --> 00:32:09,270  issued to Mr. Chemical Limited  512 00:32:09,370 --> 00:32:10,771  for the provision               of housekeeping and               laundry chemicals               513 00:32:10,871 --> 00:32:14,775 to long-term care holds.         514 00:32:14,875 --> 00:32:17,244 - I ask that city                 council step in                 515 00:32:17,345 --> 00:32:19,580 and direct Parks and Recreation. 516 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,848 - [Meeting Attendant]              All right folks,               517 00:32:20,948 --> 00:32:22,583  we're gonna get started          very shortly. So--              518 00:32:22,683 --> 00:32:23,451 - Let's go. Let's go.            519 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:29,290 (mellow piano music)             520 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,797  - Next item is EC18.4,          521 00:32:36,897 --> 00:32:40,601  COVID-19 response               and accessibility,               522 00:32:40,701 --> 00:32:45,439  parks, forestry and             recreation programs.             523 00:32:45,539 --> 00:32:49,143 Our next speaker is              Khaleel Seivwright.              524 00:32:49,243 --> 00:32:50,411  You have five minutes.          525 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,548 - Thank you.                      - Welcome.                      526 00:32:54,648 --> 00:32:56,317   Hey, my name's                 Khaleel Seivwright.              527 00:32:56,417 --> 00:32:59,186 Thank you for giving me the       opportunity to speak here       528 00:32:59,286 --> 00:33:00,621 at this meeting.                 529 00:33:00,721 --> 00:33:02,523 On November 19th,                530 00:33:02,623 --> 00:33:05,126   I received a letter from       Parks and Recreation manager,    531 00:33:05,226 --> 00:33:09,096 Janie Romoff, threatening        the removal of tiny shelters     532 00:33:09,196 --> 00:33:12,066 that are currently being used     by people living in parks.      533 00:33:12,166 --> 00:33:12,967 And I ask                        534 00:33:14,335 --> 00:33:16,504 that the city council step in    535 00:33:16,604 --> 00:33:19,473 and direct Parks and Recreation  to support this initiative       536 00:33:19,573 --> 00:33:22,910  and help me make                Toronto's parks accessible       537 00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:26,480   for all people                 living in our city.              538 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:28,582  The most immediate and            direct way, I think,           539 00:33:28,682 --> 00:33:31,218 city council can support         this initiative is               540 00:33:31,318 --> 00:33:33,387  by issuing a moratorium         541 00:33:33,487 --> 00:33:37,625 on Municipal By-law Chapter        608, Section 13 and 14.        542 00:33:38,926 --> 00:33:39,693  Again,                          543 00:33:41,328 --> 00:33:45,032 I think there is a lack of       awareness about the safety,      544 00:33:45,132 --> 00:33:47,735 design and functionality         of these shelters.               545 00:33:47,835 --> 00:33:52,039 So I'll take a moment              to reiterate and               also talk about them.            546 00:33:53,207 --> 00:33:55,042 I'd like to mention as well      547 00:33:55,142 --> 00:33:57,044 that there has been a            document made public             548 00:33:57,144 --> 00:34:00,848 for my deputation showing        49,000 people have signed        549 00:34:00,948 --> 00:34:03,217  a petition agreeing             that there should be             550 00:34:03,317 --> 00:34:05,419  a moratorium on the same bylaws 551 00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,156  for the safety of those living   in encampments. Thank you.      552 00:34:11,525 --> 00:34:13,961 - Let me see whether or not      there are any questions of you.  553 00:34:14,061 --> 00:34:15,863 I see none.                      554 00:34:18,499 --> 00:34:19,500 - I was like, still               swallowing food.                555 00:34:26,207 --> 00:34:29,176 - I'll start off with fire.      556 00:34:30,144 --> 00:34:31,779 Is he Deputy Chief Jessop?       557 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,916 There was a conversation           this morning,                  558 00:34:36,016 --> 00:34:39,320  particularly as it related      to a gentleman that was here,    559 00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:40,688 Khaleel Seivwright,              560 00:34:40,788 --> 00:34:43,457   who talked about               the small tiny units             561 00:34:43,557 --> 00:34:45,493  that he's building               'cause he sees a need.          562 00:34:45,593 --> 00:34:47,595 I'm just wondering whether       or not fire has had              563 00:34:47,695 --> 00:34:52,166   an opportunity to maybe        take a look at those units       564 00:34:52,266 --> 00:34:53,267 and if so,                       565 00:34:53,367 --> 00:34:56,570 what exactly is the thought         consideration of fire         566 00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:58,639    with respect to these         units? Are they fire safe?       567 00:35:02,409 --> 00:35:04,245   - [Deputy Jim]                 Through the chair.               568 00:35:04,345 --> 00:35:05,412  You can hear me, Deputy Mayor?  569 00:35:05,513 --> 00:35:08,249  - I can hear you.               Deputy Jessop. Yes.              570 00:35:08,349 --> 00:35:09,116 - [Deputy Jim] Great. Thank you. 571 00:35:09,216 --> 00:35:11,318 So through the chair               fire's position,               572 00:35:11,418 --> 00:35:13,587 especially after the year        573 00:35:13,687 --> 00:35:16,457    we have had with the          number of encampment fires,      574 00:35:16,557 --> 00:35:18,659  is that these, these structures 575 00:35:18,759 --> 00:35:23,030  that are being                  constructed are not safe         576 00:35:23,130 --> 00:35:25,799   and they're not                designed for people              577 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,269  to live in them in the outside. 578 00:35:28,369 --> 00:35:30,971 - What the fuck? Who did         a fire safety inspection?        579 00:35:31,071 --> 00:35:32,006 Not you, bro.                    580 00:35:32,106 --> 00:35:33,641 Who did it?                      581 00:35:35,142 --> 00:35:37,845 What are the results of your     imaginary safety inspection?     582 00:35:37,945 --> 00:35:40,614 Oh, that's so interesting         'cause I wasn't there.          583 00:35:40,714 --> 00:35:43,684 Who was there? Who participated? 584 00:35:43,784 --> 00:35:46,854   - I take great                 comfort in hearing               585 00:35:46,954 --> 00:35:51,959 from a Deputy Chief Jessop          around the, you know,         586 00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:56,530 the small portable                 type of shelter                587 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:59,366  that Mr. Seivwright spoke about   today and indicated that it,   588 00:35:59,466 --> 00:36:01,535 you know, met all the standards. 589 00:36:01,635 --> 00:36:04,705 It doesn't and I don't want       people to die from fire.        590 00:36:04,805 --> 00:36:06,407 Any other problems--                - Word!                       591 00:36:06,507 --> 00:36:10,044  I'm so excited I                get to speak again.              592 00:36:10,144 --> 00:36:10,711 - [Michael] Staff report         that's in front of us            593 00:36:10,811 --> 00:36:12,246  and conclude my remarks         594 00:36:12,346 --> 00:36:14,448 'cause I've now approached        the five minutes.               595 00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:14,648 Moving on.                       596 00:36:17,051 --> 00:36:21,288  - [Michael] We are now          moving members to EC18.8         597 00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:23,757 that is the Toronto Rent Bank    598 00:36:23,857 --> 00:36:28,095  and eviction prevention          in the community.               599 00:36:28,195 --> 00:36:29,597 And we have                      600 00:36:29,697 --> 00:36:31,232  a number of speakers--           - One speaker.                  601 00:36:31,332 --> 00:36:32,199 - [Michael] On this item.        602 00:36:32,299 --> 00:36:33,334 - Oh.                            603 00:36:34,468 --> 00:36:37,404 - [Michael] Our first speaker       is Khaleel Seivwright.        604 00:36:37,504 --> 00:36:39,907  Mr. Seivwright, are you there?  605 00:36:41,642 --> 00:36:42,810 - [Khaleel] Yep.                 606 00:36:42,910 --> 00:36:43,410    - You're there.               Thank you very much.             607 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:45,346 You may proceed, sir.            608 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:50,217  - Okay. I guess I would         like to start by saying,         609 00:36:50,317 --> 00:36:53,754 the question Michael             Thompson made for Jim Jessop     610 00:36:53,854 --> 00:36:57,157   about the tiny shelter,        which he avoided answering.      611 00:36:57,258 --> 00:36:58,259 He made a point of.              612 00:36:58,359 --> 00:36:59,426 - [Michael] Mr. Seivwright.      613 00:36:59,526 --> 00:37:01,028   - Yes?                         - I wonder                       614 00:37:01,128 --> 00:37:02,830  if you could speak to the        issue that we're dealing with.  615 00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:07,201  It's the Toronto Rent Bank      and if an eviction prevention    616 00:37:07,301 --> 00:37:08,402 in the community.                617 00:37:08,502 --> 00:37:09,770  That's the issue that we're     dealing with at this moment.     618 00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:14,742 Sir, you have had                the opportunity to               express your opinion             619 00:37:14,842 --> 00:37:18,579 on the units that you built        on the previous issue.         620 00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:21,215   What's in front                of us is eviction.               621 00:37:21,315 --> 00:37:22,416 If you could speak to that,      that would be very helpful, sir. 622 00:37:22,516 --> 00:37:23,751    Thank you.                    - I'll continue to speak         623 00:37:23,851 --> 00:37:26,954   to that because this            is extremely relevant,          624 00:37:27,054 --> 00:37:29,790  considering how many people     are being evicted right now.     625 00:37:31,592 --> 00:37:33,727  But I think it's                also very relevant,              626 00:37:33,827 --> 00:37:36,563 considering these people          will be possibly living         627 00:37:36,664 --> 00:37:38,966  in these tiny shelters           that, you know,                 628 00:37:39,066 --> 00:37:39,967   there was not a fire            safety inspection done          629 00:37:40,067 --> 00:37:43,470 on these shelters by             Jim Jessop or anyone             630 00:37:43,570 --> 00:37:45,105 from the fire department.        631 00:37:45,205 --> 00:37:48,609 And for you to say that they      are definitely not safe is      632 00:37:48,709 --> 00:37:51,745  a complete lie. That's          an inaccurate statement.         633 00:37:51,845 --> 00:37:53,781    So I would like a fire        safety inspection to be done     634 00:37:53,881 --> 00:37:57,785   and for you to see the         results of this inspection.      635 00:37:57,885 --> 00:37:58,986 You know, on a side note,        636 00:37:59,086 --> 00:38:02,856 to however many people are       going to be winding up homeless  637 00:38:02,956 --> 00:38:03,924 this winter.                     638 00:38:04,024 --> 00:38:05,592 The people I'm providing         that shelter for,                639 00:38:05,693 --> 00:38:07,361  they have never                 experienced homelessness         640 00:38:07,461 --> 00:38:08,529 in their life before.            641 00:38:08,629 --> 00:38:11,632  You know how upsetting that is? 642 00:38:11,732 --> 00:38:12,866 To be giving someone               a box to live in               643 00:38:12,966 --> 00:38:16,437 that has never experienced       homelessness ever in their life. 644 00:38:16,537 --> 00:38:16,804 That sucks.                      645 00:38:19,606 --> 00:38:21,342   I guess that's                 all I have to say.               646 00:38:21,442 --> 00:38:22,810 If there's any questions,        647 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:24,978 I'm very open to be              answering them. Thank you.       648 00:38:26,647 --> 00:38:28,849  - [Michael] Thank               you very much, sir.              649 00:38:28,949 --> 00:38:31,618 Let me check to see if there     are any questions of you.        650 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,053  Looking to see                  651 00:38:33,153 --> 00:38:34,221 if there are any visiting          members of committee.          652 00:38:34,321 --> 00:38:37,057  I've seen none. Looking         at members of committee.         653 00:38:37,157 --> 00:38:40,027  There are no questions of        you, sir. Thank you very much.  654 00:38:40,127 --> 00:38:41,295  Okay, our next                  655 00:38:41,395 --> 00:38:45,699 speaker is Annie Hodgkins,       656 00:38:45,799 --> 00:38:49,103 center for Equality              Rights in accommodation.         657 00:38:50,604 --> 00:38:53,674 ( drill whirring)                658 00:39:10,090 --> 00:39:11,358    - [News Announcer] A          homeless man froze to death      659 00:39:11,458 --> 00:39:12,893 over the weekend.                660 00:39:12,993 --> 00:39:14,495  His body was found in the       plateau in a public toilet,      661 00:39:14,595 --> 00:39:17,131 not far from the open door.      662 00:39:17,231 --> 00:39:21,034  A drop-in center where he'd     been earlier Saturday night.     663 00:39:21,135 --> 00:39:24,738 Staff at the shelter say he      should not have had to die.      664 00:39:24,838 --> 00:39:26,807 Angela Mackenzie reports.        665 00:39:28,342 --> 00:39:30,077 (drill whirring)                 666 00:39:30,177 --> 00:39:30,944  - I don't know,                 667 00:39:31,044 --> 00:39:32,679  just weird, like                my mom's calling me              668 00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:35,315 and she keeps telling me to      stop doing what I'm doing.       669 00:39:37,117 --> 00:39:37,751 - [Zach] Why?                    670 00:39:37,851 --> 00:39:38,819 - Because she's fucking worried. 671 00:39:42,623 --> 00:39:43,824  What the fuck is this?          672 00:39:45,793 --> 00:39:48,162 Yeah, she's really stressed out. 673 00:39:51,465 --> 00:39:51,865 - [Zach] What did she say?       674 00:39:56,703 --> 00:39:57,738 - She sent me a text.            675 00:39:57,838 --> 00:39:59,706  I haven't even answered         her phone calls.                 676 00:39:59,807 --> 00:40:02,576  - [Zach] What did the text say? 677 00:40:02,676 --> 00:40:04,745 - You know, Khaleel,               you should stop.               678 00:40:04,845 --> 00:40:06,246 You know, you did your best.     679 00:40:06,346 --> 00:40:10,551 Like, you should just stop       because you're gonna get fucked. 680 00:40:10,651 --> 00:40:13,854   She didn't say it like that,    but that's like what she meant. 681 00:40:14,855 --> 00:40:16,490  There's some other               vibe going on, I think.         682 00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:18,892 Like, in city council            683 00:40:18,992 --> 00:40:19,827  and just with them saying like, 684 00:40:19,927 --> 00:40:22,029 declaring that these               are fire hazards               685 00:40:22,129 --> 00:40:23,897  without having any sort          of inspection done,             686 00:40:23,997 --> 00:40:27,734  it's like there's                something else going on         687 00:40:27,835 --> 00:40:29,703 that's really bothering me.       I don't know what it is.        688 00:40:31,772 --> 00:40:35,476    It's like, it's not           about like, the shelters,        689 00:40:35,576 --> 00:40:38,145 it's not about the                 danger of them.                690 00:40:38,245 --> 00:40:39,780 It's like, something else.       691 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,782 It's like, there's                 a weird thing.                 692 00:40:43,050 --> 00:40:45,819 It's almost like                 about maintaining                 authority or something.         693 00:40:45,919 --> 00:40:48,956   I feel like that's a            bigger issue for them.          694 00:41:38,739 --> 00:41:42,109  (sudden torch blasting)         695 00:41:45,779 --> 00:41:48,782 (torch whooshing)                696 00:41:55,289 --> 00:41:58,492  - I like seeing the pages       burn after page after page.      697 00:41:58,592 --> 00:41:59,326  - [Companion 1] Oh,             dude, it was so cool.            698 00:41:59,426 --> 00:42:01,328 Like, it just flips                the next page.                 699 00:42:01,428 --> 00:42:02,729 Flip the next page.                - Yeah.                        700 00:42:04,765 --> 00:42:06,400 Dude.                            - Can you do a second thing?     701 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,235 - Yo.                            702 00:42:08,335 --> 00:42:08,368 You can touch it.                703 00:42:12,105 --> 00:42:13,073 It's amazing.                    704 00:42:14,274 --> 00:42:15,509 Yeah.                            705 00:42:15,609 --> 00:42:16,176 It does not burn.                706 00:42:18,111 --> 00:42:20,814 The shelter is fine.              It's fucking great.             707 00:42:21,582 --> 00:42:24,484 (upbeat piano music)             708 00:42:24,585 --> 00:42:26,153 - Come on.                       709 00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:37,564 I've been building these things. 710 00:42:37,664 --> 00:42:39,299   - Yeah.                        - And giving them to people      711 00:42:39,399 --> 00:42:41,501  and I'm just trying to find out 712 00:42:41,602 --> 00:42:43,604  an actual firefighter's          opinion about them.             713 00:42:46,673 --> 00:42:49,876  There's a smoke seal detector.     - Oh, yeah.                   714 00:42:49,977 --> 00:42:51,211 - And everyone as well. Yeah.       - Yeah.                       715 00:42:53,547 --> 00:42:54,081 Well, couldn't regulate it.      716 00:42:54,181 --> 00:42:56,550  - [Khaleel] Of course.          717 00:42:56,650 --> 00:42:57,451  - [Crew Member 1]               You have to consult              718 00:42:57,551 --> 00:42:59,553 our fire prevention office.      719 00:42:59,653 --> 00:43:00,387 - [Khaleel] For sure.            720 00:43:01,188 --> 00:43:02,289  Well, I mean, in terms of like. 721 00:43:02,389 --> 00:43:03,957 - [Crew Member 1] They're        allowing tents in that by them.  722 00:43:04,057 --> 00:43:05,592 Are they allowing                like, structures.                723 00:43:05,692 --> 00:43:07,894 - [Khaleel] Yeah.                724 00:43:07,995 --> 00:43:09,863  Well, like compared to a tent,  725 00:43:09,963 --> 00:43:11,765  like, do you think this          is a better option?             726 00:43:11,865 --> 00:43:13,467 - [Crew Member 1] You get        burned as fast in a tent.        727 00:43:13,567 --> 00:43:14,101 Tent catches it and it just.     728 00:43:14,201 --> 00:43:15,869  - [Crew Member 2] Yeah.         729 00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:17,437 - [Khaleel] Yeah.                730 00:43:17,537 --> 00:43:19,573 - [Crew Member 1] Definitely      shelters from the elements      731 00:43:19,673 --> 00:43:20,440 a lot better.                    732 00:43:20,540 --> 00:43:21,608 - Oh. Yeah.                        - Yeah.                        733 00:43:21,708 --> 00:43:23,076 - [Crew Member 1] It would       be an awesome fishing hut.       734 00:43:23,176 --> 00:43:24,044 Yeah.                            735 00:43:25,045 --> 00:43:26,480  I can give you a phone            number you can call.           736 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:26,980 - [Khaleel] Yeah.                737 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,948 That'd be amazing.               738 00:43:28,048 --> 00:43:30,250 - [Crew Member 1]                Just gimme a minute.             739 00:43:31,551 --> 00:43:32,119 - [Voicemail] This               is the voicemail of              740 00:43:32,219 --> 00:43:34,821  Toronto Fire Services.          741 00:43:34,921 --> 00:43:36,223 I am in the office today,        742 00:43:36,323 --> 00:43:38,492  but unable to take your          call at the moment.             743 00:43:38,592 --> 00:43:39,726  So if you'd like                to leave a message,              744 00:43:39,826 --> 00:43:43,630  please do so after the          tone. Thank you. (beeps)         745 00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:46,800 - [Khaleel] Hey, my              name's Khaleel Seivwright.       746 00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:48,235 I got your number                from a fire chief                747 00:43:48,335 --> 00:43:52,039    at the Dufferin Fire          Station, Dufferin, DuPont.       748 00:43:52,139 --> 00:43:55,342 And I was hoping to have         a conversation with you.         749 00:43:55,442 --> 00:43:57,944  (saw whirring)                  750 00:44:03,817 --> 00:44:05,318  (phone ringing)                 751 00:44:05,419 --> 00:44:06,319 - Hello, Khaleel.                752 00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:08,422 This is... Toronto Fire.         753 00:44:08,522 --> 00:44:10,824 - Oh, hey.                       754 00:44:10,924 --> 00:44:14,661  I guess I'm just interested      in getting your honest opinion  755 00:44:14,761 --> 00:44:16,096 about the shelters.              756 00:44:16,963 --> 00:44:20,801 - Well, you know,                we're not a fan.                 757 00:44:20,901 --> 00:44:23,503 I mean, let me just back up.     758 00:44:23,603 --> 00:44:25,505  We're not a fan of              this whole situation.            759 00:44:25,605 --> 00:44:27,841  - Yeah.                         760 00:44:27,941 --> 00:44:31,511 - A path to stable housing        is everybody's goal here.       761 00:44:31,611 --> 00:44:32,813 - I've actually,                 762 00:44:32,913 --> 00:44:34,981 I've written up a letter         that I've been trying            763 00:44:35,082 --> 00:44:37,184 to get to John Tory. It's          a negotiation letter.          764 00:44:37,284 --> 00:44:41,354 And I guess, my very               specific idea is               765 00:44:41,455 --> 00:44:44,825   that I'm aware that the city    is getting more housing on line 766 00:44:44,925 --> 00:44:47,227 for people and that              there's going to be              767 00:44:47,327 --> 00:44:49,896 more spaces for people to        go to in the next month,         768 00:44:49,996 --> 00:44:52,332  in the next few                  months, next few weeks.         769 00:44:52,432 --> 00:44:53,400  And that, okay,                 770 00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:54,868  I've built these                shelters for people              771 00:44:54,968 --> 00:44:56,536 that are outside currently,      772 00:44:56,636 --> 00:44:59,873 but I understand that they        would like to be inside,        773 00:44:59,973 --> 00:45:02,409 like, no one wants to            be living in a tiny box.         774 00:45:02,509 --> 00:45:03,710  - That's right.                 775 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:05,712  - So, and that's like,          I'm fully aware of this,         776 00:45:05,812 --> 00:45:07,214 but there's many                  people that are outside         777 00:45:07,314 --> 00:45:09,082  that would like                 to be in housing.                778 00:45:09,182 --> 00:45:12,119 And I guess, in my               negotiation letter,              779 00:45:12,219 --> 00:45:15,489 I'm talking about what if        this could be an interim         780 00:45:17,624 --> 00:45:20,460 for people as they're            getting into housing             781 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,628 and then I can move the shelters 782 00:45:21,728 --> 00:45:25,365 and then, eventually remove      them from all city property      783 00:45:25,465 --> 00:45:26,867 when the weather is warm enough. 784 00:45:26,967 --> 00:45:29,202  - Yeah. I don't know, Khaleel.  785 00:45:29,302 --> 00:45:30,437 'Cause as I said,                786 00:45:30,537 --> 00:45:33,140 that's a better discussion         to have with Dan Rowe.         787 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,510 I'm only looking at it from       a fire safety standpoint.       788 00:45:36,610 --> 00:45:37,611 - I guess.                       789 00:45:37,711 --> 00:45:41,815 - You know, if we                gotta classify it as you,        790 00:45:41,915 --> 00:45:43,884 what do we classify               it as? Is it box?               791 00:45:43,984 --> 00:45:45,585 Is it buildings, this, you know, 792 00:45:45,685 --> 00:45:47,320 it doesn't really                fit the molds of                 793 00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:51,224 any sort of recognized standard. 794 00:45:51,324 --> 00:45:52,793 Do you know what                 standard is it built to?         795 00:45:52,893 --> 00:45:56,463 - Well, I mean, it's very,       796 00:45:56,563 --> 00:45:56,930 it's interesting                 because there's--                797 00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:59,099 - It's a box.                    798 00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,602   - There's actually a few       examples of different cities     799 00:46:02,702 --> 00:46:05,972 around the world building        extremely similar structures     800 00:46:06,072 --> 00:46:07,440   for people that                are stuck outside.               801 00:46:07,541 --> 00:46:11,812 And they're working with          governments to do this          802 00:46:11,912 --> 00:46:13,747  and it's, yeah, it's something  803 00:46:13,847 --> 00:46:15,949   that's endorsed by their       government to protect people.    804 00:46:16,049 --> 00:46:18,451  - Yeah, I know.                 805 00:46:18,552 --> 00:46:20,987 I mean, and it sounds            okay until it's not.             806 00:46:21,087 --> 00:46:25,158 We want to get these folks into  shelters, into hotel rooms.      807 00:46:25,258 --> 00:46:30,130 We wanna get them on a path        to sustainable housing.        808 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:32,032 - I guess I'll still send         you over the blueprints         809 00:46:32,132 --> 00:46:34,301  just to get your honest          opinion about them.             810 00:46:35,202 --> 00:46:37,671  (upbeat music)                  811 00:46:39,005 --> 00:46:42,776 I like some of Nietzsche's          thoughts about like,          812 00:46:42,876 --> 00:46:45,312    people are soldiers,          they'll fight consistently,      813 00:46:45,412 --> 00:46:48,982 they'll show up, they'll         do their job, and leave.         814 00:46:49,082 --> 00:46:50,817 But warriors,                    815 00:46:50,917 --> 00:46:53,687 they can't take a break.         816 00:46:55,222 --> 00:46:57,724    The soldier can go on         vacation, but the warrior,       817 00:46:57,824 --> 00:47:01,261 the only peace they               have is victory.                818 00:47:02,128 --> 00:47:03,129 I love that.                     819 00:47:04,264 --> 00:47:06,633  They're just relentlessly       pushing something forward.       820 00:47:09,135 --> 00:47:10,837  (upbeat music)                  821 00:47:13,306 --> 00:47:15,208 (plastic rustling)               822 00:47:15,308 --> 00:47:16,710 (rapid thumping)                 823 00:47:16,810 --> 00:47:18,445  (saw whirring)                  824 00:47:23,316 --> 00:47:25,852  (upbeat music)                  825 00:47:30,123 --> 00:47:31,691 - [Friend 1] Can you push it?    826 00:47:34,127 --> 00:47:35,395  - [Friend 2] Oh, yeah.          827 00:47:35,495 --> 00:47:37,597    - Okay. This next story       actually comes from Toronto.     828 00:47:37,697 --> 00:47:42,569 A carpenter named,               Khaleel Seivwright,              829 00:47:42,669 --> 00:47:45,005  is building insulated shelters  830 00:47:45,105 --> 00:47:46,673 for homeless people               in the community.               831 00:47:46,773 --> 00:47:48,909  This is the kind of             stuff I need to hear.            832 00:47:49,009 --> 00:47:51,645  (upbeat music)                  833 00:47:56,516 --> 00:47:58,118  - A drill and a hammer.         834 00:47:58,218 --> 00:47:59,019 Let's meet the carpenter         835 00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,054 from Canada crafting              multiple shelters.              836 00:48:01,154 --> 00:48:03,390 (woman speaking in                foreign language)               837 00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:04,724 - [News Announcer 1]             One Toronto carpenter            838 00:48:04,824 --> 00:48:06,626 who is receiving praise.         839 00:48:06,726 --> 00:48:07,928  - [News Announcer 1] Of         those who have used them,        840 00:48:08,028 --> 00:48:09,596  call it a saving grace.         841 00:48:09,696 --> 00:48:10,964 - [Woman] I'm so impressed          by what you're doing.         842 00:48:11,064 --> 00:48:14,434 It's actually incredible.          You are such a hero.           843 00:48:14,534 --> 00:48:15,936  - That's cool.                  844 00:48:16,036 --> 00:48:17,837  (upbeat music)                  845 00:48:21,708 --> 00:48:24,377  (saw whirring)                  846 00:48:31,384 --> 00:48:33,920  (upbeat music)                  847 00:48:49,202 --> 00:48:52,238 Oh.                              848 00:48:52,339 --> 00:48:54,040 I have to get a beer.            849 00:49:39,586 --> 00:49:42,589 (melancholic music)              850 00:49:56,403 --> 00:49:58,038  - [Chief Jessop] Okay,          so good morning everyone,        851 00:49:58,138 --> 00:50:00,006 and thank you for coming.        852 00:50:00,106 --> 00:50:03,009 Early this morning,               just around 6AM,                853 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:07,047  Toronto fire service responded  to the report of a fire,         854 00:50:07,147 --> 00:50:10,383 a very visible fire               at this location.               855 00:50:10,483 --> 00:50:11,918 Upon our arrival,                856 00:50:12,018 --> 00:50:14,387  our crews were met with a        fully involved structure fire,  857 00:50:14,487 --> 00:50:17,690 what can best be described       as a tiny wooden structure.      858 00:50:17,791 --> 00:50:20,093 The fire was quickly             extinguished.                    859 00:50:20,193 --> 00:50:22,595  Unfortunately, once the          fire was extinguished,          860 00:50:22,695 --> 00:50:26,399 our crews conducted              their search inside              861 00:50:26,499 --> 00:50:30,570 and noted one deceased person    with obvious signs of death.     862 00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:33,640  - And these particular           structures, where                did they come from?             863 00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:35,108 - I'm not sure, to be honest.    864 00:50:35,208 --> 00:50:36,843  Again, it would be              inappropriate for me to guess    865 00:50:36,943 --> 00:50:39,612  how they've arrived at in,      you know, in this city park.     866 00:50:39,712 --> 00:50:41,714   That will probably form        part of the investigation,       867 00:50:41,815 --> 00:50:43,016 but I have no idea.              868 00:50:48,521 --> 00:50:51,724 - Did they tell you anything     more about what happened?        869 00:50:53,193 --> 00:50:56,096  - [Outreach Worker] He          had a heater in the unit         870 00:50:58,865 --> 00:51:01,935 and from what I hear             from one of his friends,         871 00:51:02,035 --> 00:51:03,570 and again, I'm just assuming,    872 00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:05,605 but I don't really                 know for sure,                 873 00:51:05,705 --> 00:51:08,441 that it was a gas heater.        874 00:51:11,177 --> 00:51:11,945  - Okay.                         875 00:51:14,581 --> 00:51:17,117  And then, it just lit on fire.  876 00:51:18,551 --> 00:51:19,786 - [Outreach Worker] Yeah.        Like, I think it started         877 00:51:19,886 --> 00:51:20,954 from the inside.                 878 00:51:26,993 --> 00:51:27,760 And I don't know,                879 00:51:27,861 --> 00:51:29,929 he could have very well been,    880 00:51:31,564 --> 00:51:32,565 you know,                        881 00:51:32,665 --> 00:51:34,934  he could have actually           been on a head nod              882 00:51:35,034 --> 00:51:38,471    or overdosed and maybe        that's why he didn't wake up.    883 00:51:41,241 --> 00:51:42,041  - Yeah.                         884 00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:46,346  - [Outreach Worker] But         I do appreciate the work         885 00:51:46,446 --> 00:51:47,614 that you're doing.               886 00:51:47,714 --> 00:51:50,950  There would've been              lots of worse outcomes          887 00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:54,487 in this had you not been          providing shelters for people.  888 00:52:02,295 --> 00:52:05,131  (phone dinging)                 889 00:52:21,781 --> 00:52:22,916 Yeah.                            890 00:52:23,016 --> 00:52:25,718  And then, this is what          they're hitting me with.         891 00:52:25,818 --> 00:52:28,955   "The applicant, which           is the City of Toronto,         892 00:52:29,055 --> 00:52:31,224  makes application for an order, 893 00:52:31,324 --> 00:52:34,127  permanently restraining         the respondent, Khaleel,         894 00:52:34,227 --> 00:52:36,729 from placing and the             relocating structures            895 00:52:36,829 --> 00:52:38,998 on city owned land or otherwise, 896 00:52:39,098 --> 00:52:41,634 creating a nuisance              or interfering with               the city's rights               897 00:52:41,734 --> 00:52:44,003 as owner and occupier            of its land."                    898 00:52:46,506 --> 00:52:46,539 Fantastic.                       899 00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:54,547 Yep.                             900 00:52:56,583 --> 00:52:56,950  - [Zach] Okay.                  901 00:53:03,323 --> 00:53:07,227 (foreboding music)               902 00:53:07,327 --> 00:53:07,860    - [Samara] The                first option is just             903 00:53:07,961 --> 00:53:10,163 like a quiet negotiation.        904 00:53:10,263 --> 00:53:13,399   It doesn't have to be quiet,    but it could be a negotiation.  905 00:53:13,499 --> 00:53:17,103 Like, everyone sort of says,     906 00:53:17,203 --> 00:53:18,137 "Hold on, before we go to court, 907 00:53:18,238 --> 00:53:20,406  before everyone expands           all these resources,           908 00:53:20,506 --> 00:53:22,609 let's talk about what            your goals are, city.            909 00:53:22,709 --> 00:53:25,945  And let's talk about what       Khaleel's goals are." Okay?      910 00:53:26,045 --> 00:53:29,515   The second option is to        just say, "Okay, bring it.       911 00:53:29,616 --> 00:53:31,351  We're going to court."          912 00:53:31,451 --> 00:53:32,619 And because, like,               913 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,855  I think you might have some      kind of legal argument on the,  914 00:53:35,955 --> 00:53:38,191 like, waste dumping ones.        915 00:53:38,291 --> 00:53:40,760  I think what you would have      to do for the encroachment one  916 00:53:40,860 --> 00:53:43,029 is constitutionally                 challenge it.                 917 00:53:45,565 --> 00:53:48,768  So basically, the point         is, enforcing the by-law,        918 00:53:48,868 --> 00:53:49,802  forcing people out              of these encampments             919 00:53:49,902 --> 00:53:53,473   or forcing me to               stop building these,             920 00:53:53,573 --> 00:53:54,807 puts people's lives at risk      921 00:53:54,907 --> 00:53:58,011  because of the failure           of the shelter system.          922 00:53:59,545 --> 00:54:00,947 (melancholic music)              923 00:54:56,936 --> 00:55:00,440 - Hi, are you here                 to serve Tory?                 924 00:55:03,376 --> 00:55:06,179 - Yeah. So we're here            at John Tory's condo,            925 00:55:06,279 --> 00:55:07,146 trying to contest the injunction 926 00:55:07,246 --> 00:55:09,482 that he has served to             Khaleel Seivwright.             927 00:55:09,582 --> 00:55:12,318   And we're trying to get        him to stop the injunction,      928 00:55:12,418 --> 00:55:13,619  repeal the bylaws that           criminalize people              929 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:15,822  who are living in parks         930 00:55:15,922 --> 00:55:19,659  and create more                  affordable RGI housing.         931 00:55:19,759 --> 00:55:22,295 - Yeah. Tiny house's               well structured.               932 00:55:22,395 --> 00:55:25,998 You don't need no heat, you      don't need no nothing in there.  933 00:55:26,099 --> 00:55:29,469 As long as they go inside and    close the door, you're good.     934 00:55:29,569 --> 00:55:31,170  - [Zach] Have you had a          couple or you have one?         935 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:32,138 - I have one,                    936 00:55:32,238 --> 00:55:34,173  but I'm the first               person that get it.              937 00:55:34,273 --> 00:55:36,709 I was the first one that          get that. That get it.          938 00:55:36,809 --> 00:55:39,479 Yeah. When it burned             down is people careless,         939 00:55:39,579 --> 00:55:40,680 like go in there,                940 00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:41,814  do whatever they                doing and get high,              941 00:55:41,914 --> 00:55:43,750 fall asleep and something wrong. 942 00:55:43,850 --> 00:55:46,753 But otherwise from                that, it's good.                943 00:55:46,853 --> 00:55:47,754 - [Zach] Did you have            any problems with yours?         944 00:55:47,854 --> 00:55:50,156 - I have no problems             whatsoever. Yeah.                945 00:55:52,792 --> 00:55:53,259   - [Zach] Do you                have anything else               946 00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:55,027 that you want to say?            947 00:55:55,128 --> 00:55:57,997 - I hope whatever, you know,        I hope the city can see       948 00:55:58,097 --> 00:56:02,335 what people are fighting         for and common people            949 00:56:02,435 --> 00:56:03,536   because there's a lot           of people in the street         950 00:56:03,636 --> 00:56:07,507 that need places and we want      the same thing. Like what?      951 00:56:07,607 --> 00:56:08,841 The mayor have his own key.      952 00:56:08,941 --> 00:56:11,277  That's what everybody's           looking for.                   953 00:56:11,377 --> 00:56:13,413  A place where they              can call their home.             954 00:56:13,513 --> 00:56:14,247 It doesn't matter, you know,     955 00:56:14,347 --> 00:56:16,215  a home is still                 a home, you know.                956 00:56:18,050 --> 00:56:21,187 - [TV Character] Open            the goddamn door.                957 00:56:30,763 --> 00:56:31,330  - Hey.                          - Just a.                        958 00:56:32,732 --> 00:56:34,467 It's just a very nice take.      959 00:56:34,567 --> 00:56:36,536 - It's really bright in here     960 00:56:36,636 --> 00:56:37,737 when the light's coming.         961 00:56:37,837 --> 00:56:38,571 - [Zach] When it's               all coming through.              962 00:56:38,671 --> 00:56:39,405  It's a really nice day.         963 00:56:39,505 --> 00:56:40,940  - Yeah.                         964 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,909 - [Zach] It's cold,                but it's nice.                 965 00:56:44,844 --> 00:56:48,047 (melancholic music)              966 00:58:33,986 --> 00:58:35,521 - These encampments                 are not safe.                 967 00:58:35,621 --> 00:58:39,025   They're not healthy and they    do not belong in public parks.  968 00:58:39,125 --> 00:58:40,092 They're not to be                in public parks,                 969 00:58:40,192 --> 00:58:43,129 but we're not just               clearing them out.               970 00:58:43,229 --> 00:58:45,698 We are preceding that by          extensive work that is going on 971 00:58:45,798 --> 00:58:48,734   right now to talk to each and   every one of those individuals  972 00:58:48,834 --> 00:58:50,536 and find them better housing.    973 00:58:51,637 --> 00:58:52,071  (indistinct phone call)         974 00:58:52,171 --> 00:58:53,773 - [Woman] Hi, there.             975 00:58:53,873 --> 00:58:54,640 I just phoned about               a friend of mine                976 00:58:54,740 --> 00:58:56,676  who's been living               at Scadding Court.               977 00:58:56,776 --> 00:58:57,843  He's trying to get              into a shelter hotel.            978 00:59:00,146 --> 00:59:01,047  - [Shelter Coordinator] If he's   looking for an indoor space,   979 00:59:01,147 --> 00:59:02,214  he's gonna need to               contact central intake.         980 00:59:02,315 --> 00:59:03,416  I don't have access             to any hotel spaces.             981 00:59:03,516 --> 00:59:06,152   - [Woman] We're told            repeatedly over and over again  982 00:59:06,252 --> 00:59:07,186 by streets to homes               who come in here                983 00:59:07,286 --> 00:59:08,888  that they can call              any time, residents,             984 00:59:08,988 --> 00:59:11,357 to get into shelter hotels.      985 00:59:11,457 --> 00:59:12,625   They're evicting               people from the parks            986 00:59:12,725 --> 00:59:15,561  and encouraging them to           go to shelter hotels.          987 00:59:16,963 --> 00:59:18,064  - [Shelter Coordinator]         Yes. I am aware of that.         988 00:59:18,164 --> 00:59:20,132 The referrals by the             encampment teams,                989 00:59:20,232 --> 00:59:22,368  the indoor spaces               for eligible folks               990 00:59:22,468 --> 00:59:27,540  who meet the requirements       happen on Monday to Friday.      991 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,041 - [Woman] Right. But I mean,     992 00:59:29,141 --> 00:59:30,409 the prerogative of the city      right now in streets to homes is 993 00:59:30,509 --> 00:59:32,745    to get people into            shelter hotels or indoors        994 00:59:32,845 --> 00:59:34,447 out of the parks. Right?         995 00:59:34,547 --> 00:59:36,082    And I'm like, literally       sitting with a man right now     996 00:59:36,182 --> 00:59:38,551 who's asking for help getting    997 00:59:38,651 --> 00:59:40,286 into one of your shelter hotels. 998 00:59:40,386 --> 00:59:43,556 And you're saying there's           nothing you can do.           999 00:59:44,724 --> 00:59:45,925 - [Shelter Coordinator] No,      1000 00:59:46,025 --> 00:59:46,926  the hotel programs that          streets to homes refers         1001 00:59:47,026 --> 00:59:48,894  to do not accept                referrals on the weekends.       1002 00:59:48,995 --> 00:59:50,396 - [Woman] Okay. Okay.            1003 00:59:50,496 --> 00:59:53,366 So this guy's just gonna         be stuck outside tonight.        1004 00:59:59,872 --> 01:00:00,906  Right?                          1005 01:00:02,174 --> 01:00:03,142  - [Shelter Coordinator]          Again, my suggestion is         1006 01:00:03,242 --> 01:00:04,510  that he's going to need          to call central intake          1007 01:00:04,610 --> 01:00:06,545  and if something is available,   they will let him know.         1008 01:00:06,646 --> 01:00:07,847 - [Woman] Yeah. We tried that    1009 01:00:07,947 --> 01:00:09,348 and they said there's             nothing available.              1010 01:00:09,448 --> 01:00:11,617  - [Shelter Coordinator]           At this time,                  1011 01:00:11,717 --> 01:00:12,952 but that will likely             change in the future.            1012 01:00:17,623 --> 01:00:20,459 (mellow piano music)             1013 01:00:44,617 --> 01:00:46,218 - [Samara] If you don't wanna    constitutionally challenge it    1014 01:00:46,318 --> 01:00:48,020 'cause you're just                 not interested.                1015 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,022 That's a different story.        1016 01:00:50,122 --> 01:00:52,158 - I mean, that's also true.      1017 01:00:52,258 --> 01:00:55,661   I guess I want to get           back to living my life          1018 01:00:55,761 --> 01:00:58,531 and I guess it's interesting.    1019 01:00:58,631 --> 01:01:00,132  Like, I don't,                  1020 01:01:00,232 --> 01:01:03,235 I'm not someone that             considers myself an activist,    1021 01:01:03,335 --> 01:01:04,170 you know,                        1022 01:01:04,270 --> 01:01:06,072    and in any way,               it's like leading up             1023 01:01:06,172 --> 01:01:07,840 to building these shelters.      1024 01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:09,842 It's just simply something       that I saw that I could do       1025 01:01:09,942 --> 01:01:14,180 that made sense. And             so I did it and yeah,            1026 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,048  I guess I'm not someone         that would like,                 1027 01:01:16,148 --> 01:01:19,652  regularly go out of             my way to be involved            1028 01:01:19,752 --> 01:01:20,820 in things like these.            1029 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,188  I guess, like,                  1030 01:01:23,289 --> 01:01:27,226  that's the kind of              person I actually am.            1031 01:01:28,761 --> 01:01:29,562 - [Samara] Okay.                 1032 01:01:29,662 --> 01:01:31,097 Okay. That's totally fair.       1033 01:01:31,197 --> 01:01:34,033  And we just wanted              to talk to you about             1034 01:01:34,133 --> 01:01:35,534 where your head was at and.      1035 01:01:38,838 --> 01:01:41,040 (trash rattling)                 1036 01:01:52,017 --> 01:01:55,387 (continuous thudding)            1037 01:02:05,664 --> 01:02:07,366   - Good morning. I would like    to call this meeting to order.  1038 01:02:07,466 --> 01:02:09,702  Please join me for              the national anthem.             1039 01:02:13,873 --> 01:02:14,874 - My motion is rather short,     1040 01:02:14,974 --> 01:02:17,576 that city council adopt a        goal of zero encampments.        1041 01:02:19,979 --> 01:02:21,547 I've heard from many             constituents of mine             1042 01:02:21,647 --> 01:02:22,548 that have a lot of concerns      1043 01:02:22,648 --> 01:02:24,550 over the mass                    encampments in parks.            1044 01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:28,187  And I think people see           that as not being fair,         1045 01:02:33,192 --> 01:02:36,028 but others seem to somehow        either not have to follow       1046 01:02:36,128 --> 01:02:38,831 the rules or they gained          some sort of a benefit          1047 01:02:38,931 --> 01:02:41,534 by having access to              public land for their own.       1048 01:02:42,268 --> 01:02:43,469 - Councilor Holidays.            1049 01:02:43,569 --> 01:02:46,639  Aspirational statements           would find, I think,           1050 01:02:46,739 --> 01:02:49,742 broad support in the public       to end these encampments.       1051 01:02:55,781 --> 01:02:58,851    I don't think that we         should be making it easier       1052 01:02:58,951 --> 01:03:00,853 for the people in                these encampments                1053 01:03:00,953 --> 01:03:02,488 to sustain and live longer          in these encampments.         1054 01:03:02,588 --> 01:03:05,090 We should be encouraging          them to leave.                  1055 01:03:10,796 --> 01:03:14,066 (helicopter whirring)            1056 01:03:16,135 --> 01:03:17,870   I will lead the                city administration              1057 01:03:17,970 --> 01:03:20,039   in doing groundbreaking        work on supportive housing       1058 01:03:20,139 --> 01:03:21,907  and supports for people who      are experiencing homelessness.  1059 01:03:22,007 --> 01:03:24,310 I do not believe failing          to act on encampments,          1060 01:03:24,410 --> 01:03:27,713  indefinitely represents any      kind of compassionate approach  1061 01:03:27,813 --> 01:03:29,548  for those who are               experiencing homelessness.       1062 01:03:29,648 --> 01:03:32,384  Nor is it fair and considerate   to all of the other people      1063 01:03:32,484 --> 01:03:34,687   who want to have the            opportunity to use those parks. 1064 01:03:34,787 --> 01:03:36,222   Including some                 summer activities.               1065 01:03:36,322 --> 01:03:39,325 We've just announced summer      camps and other kinds of things. 1066 01:03:41,427 --> 01:03:42,862  - I asked Councilor             Holiday specifically,            1067 01:03:42,962 --> 01:03:46,699 does your motion be ending       homelessness? And he said, "No." 1068 01:03:48,767 --> 01:03:50,903 So I can't support                 that approach.                 1069 01:03:51,003 --> 01:03:51,937 I don't support a golden day     1070 01:03:52,037 --> 01:03:55,608 when suddenly, the               homeless disappear.              1071 01:03:55,708 --> 01:03:56,809 Where we have them,              1072 01:03:56,909 --> 01:03:59,044  but they're not                  sleeping out of doors.          1073 01:03:59,144 --> 01:04:01,313    - Five seconds.               - It's a false choice            1074 01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:03,282 and I can't vote for it.         1075 01:04:05,517 --> 01:04:09,355 - [Clerk] Motion                 five by Councilor                 Holiday, recorded vote.         1076 01:04:10,756 --> 01:04:14,026 - [Announcer] Motion five        carries. The vote is 18 to 7.    1077 01:04:23,135 --> 01:04:26,071 (melancholic music)              1078 01:04:52,564 --> 01:04:55,100  (truck revving)                 1079 01:04:59,638 --> 01:05:02,408 (metal clanking)                 1080 01:05:07,246 --> 01:05:08,180  - [Ginger] That's so concerning 1081 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,649  that they're not gonna           let people in to help.          1082 01:05:10,749 --> 01:05:13,852 - [Zach] So they're gonna        put a fence around each?         1083 01:05:13,953 --> 01:05:15,154 - They're gonna erect a fence    1084 01:05:15,254 --> 01:05:16,922 and it's gonna have               like, many exits,               1085 01:05:17,022 --> 01:05:18,991 but they're not gonna            be letting advocates             1086 01:05:19,091 --> 01:05:21,493  or support or people in           that don't live here.          1087 01:05:21,593 --> 01:05:23,829  So they've given people          two hours to like,              1088 01:05:23,929 --> 01:05:25,564  accept an offer and get           their shit packed up.          1089 01:05:25,664 --> 01:05:27,166 And then, I guess                whatever they can't take,        1090 01:05:27,266 --> 01:05:30,869 the city will deal with.         1091 01:05:32,071 --> 01:05:34,640 It's not gonna work.             1092 01:05:34,740 --> 01:05:36,208 This is not gonna be good.       1093 01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,488 - I just told you.                Did you hear me?                1094 01:05:49,588 --> 01:05:50,255 I cannot,                        1095 01:05:50,356 --> 01:05:51,757  for health and safety reasons,  1096 01:05:51,857 --> 01:05:54,493 go into the options               that you offered.               1097 01:05:54,593 --> 01:05:55,427 - [Security] Okay.               1098 01:05:55,527 --> 01:05:56,695 - Do you understand that?        1099 01:05:56,795 --> 01:05:58,097 - There may be other             options open as well?            1100 01:05:58,197 --> 01:05:59,698  - Yes. I'm working               with a housing worker.          1101 01:05:59,798 --> 01:06:00,833    - Okay.                       - I have been working            1102 01:06:00,933 --> 01:06:03,469   with a housing                 worker for months.               1103 01:06:03,569 --> 01:06:08,674 It's taking a long time to       process the subsidy application  1104 01:06:09,742 --> 01:06:10,943 to get permanent housing.         - Okay.                         1105 01:06:12,745 --> 01:06:14,613 So that could still carry on.    1106 01:06:14,713 --> 01:06:15,781   As well.                       - It should carry on.            1107 01:06:15,881 --> 01:06:17,783 And I should just wait here      1108 01:06:17,883 --> 01:06:19,852 until I can move into             permanent housing.              1109 01:06:21,253 --> 01:06:22,521 - [Ginger] When people don't        leave, which, you know,       1110 01:06:22,621 --> 01:06:23,889 they're not going to,            what's the next step?            1111 01:06:23,989 --> 01:06:25,891  - I don't know. I have no idea. 1112 01:06:25,991 --> 01:06:27,993 I'll be honest. If I knew         what was the next step,         1113 01:06:28,093 --> 01:06:29,395 I will tell you. I don't.        1114 01:06:29,495 --> 01:06:30,729  - Okay.                         1115 01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:33,766 - My job is to deliver the        message, then that's it.        1116 01:06:33,866 --> 01:06:35,200  - Yeah.                         1117 01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:37,469 - Okay? Otherwise, I tell         you, but I don't know.          1118 01:06:37,569 --> 01:06:38,470  - Okay.                          - Okay.                         1119 01:06:38,570 --> 01:06:40,706 I'm just a messenger.            1120 01:06:40,806 --> 01:06:41,607  - Yeah.                         1121 01:06:48,781 --> 01:06:50,849 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1122 01:06:50,949 --> 01:06:52,618 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1123 01:06:52,718 --> 01:06:54,219 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1124 01:06:54,319 --> 01:06:56,455 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1125 01:06:56,555 --> 01:06:58,524 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1126 01:06:58,624 --> 01:07:00,125 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1127 01:07:00,225 --> 01:07:02,528 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1128 01:07:02,628 --> 01:07:04,730 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1129 01:07:04,830 --> 01:07:07,466 - [Crowd] Who do you protect?    1130 01:07:09,501 --> 01:07:12,404 (foreboding music)               1131 01:07:15,941 --> 01:07:20,079 (crowd screaming)                (sirens blaring)                 1132 01:07:21,947 --> 01:07:26,151  (metal gates clanking)           (crowd yelling)                 1133 01:07:31,690 --> 01:07:33,258 - Stand back. Don't              push people around.              1134 01:07:33,358 --> 01:07:35,260 You guys are being violent.      1135 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,962  - [Protester] Well, it          should deescalate, right?        1136 01:07:37,062 --> 01:07:38,931  The residents don't want a      big violent thing happening.     1137 01:07:40,699 --> 01:07:43,502 (crowd screaming)                1138 01:07:43,602 --> 01:07:45,904 - [Protester] Stop!              1139 01:07:46,004 --> 01:07:49,942  - [Protesters] Let              them go! Let them go!            1140 01:07:53,312 --> 01:07:57,349  (intercom indistinctly talking) 1141 01:07:59,318 --> 01:08:01,153 - [Ginger] I think they're        gonna back us out slowly        1142 01:08:01,253 --> 01:08:02,221 until this place is cleared.     1143 01:08:02,321 --> 01:08:05,958   And then, we will not           be able to get back in.         1144 01:08:08,193 --> 01:08:10,662 - [Ginger] It would be the       same bylaw that they'd be.       1145 01:08:10,762 --> 01:08:12,631 So you'd be--                    - Everywhere.                    1146 01:08:12,731 --> 01:08:14,133  - [Ginger] Everywhere.          Public parks in Toronto.         1147 01:08:16,502 --> 01:08:20,205    I think that it                 also particularly              important day in that            1148 01:08:20,305 --> 01:08:21,173 there are services for people    1149 01:08:21,273 --> 01:08:25,010  that they do not                offer the same way               1150 01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:26,078 that they're going to today.     1151 01:08:26,178 --> 01:08:29,615  There are opportunities          available today                 1152 01:08:29,715 --> 01:08:31,750 that won't be available.         1153 01:08:31,850 --> 01:08:34,153    As fucked up as               what's going on here,            1154 01:08:34,253 --> 01:08:36,655  It's also perversely a            very good opportunity          1155 01:08:36,755 --> 01:08:38,757 for you to get yourself lined up 1156 01:08:38,857 --> 01:08:39,958 with the types of options        1157 01:08:40,058 --> 01:08:43,562    that you would most            appreciate: permanent housing.  1158 01:08:45,197 --> 01:08:46,665  Would you just, at               least, if I was there,          1159 01:08:46,765 --> 01:08:47,900  come and just talk to Mitchell  1160 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,102   and you can ask                him your questions.              1161 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:55,974 - [Mitchell] Yeah.               1162 01:09:37,916 --> 01:09:40,152  - [Ginger] Mitchell, you stay.  1163 01:09:41,386 --> 01:09:41,453  - [Ginger] Please               stay for a minute.               1164 01:09:44,690 --> 01:09:46,191 - Mitchell.                      1165 01:09:46,291 --> 01:09:48,794  - I can't say--                  - But this is.                  1166 01:09:54,299 --> 01:09:57,236    - [Ginger] Okay. So the       police are gonna come in now.    1167 01:09:59,004 --> 01:10:00,372   Okay.                           - Yes.                          1168 01:10:00,472 --> 01:10:03,542 - [Ginger] And that was an        opportunity for housing.        1169 01:10:11,183 --> 01:10:11,717  - [Ginger] So do                you have belongings              1170 01:10:11,817 --> 01:10:12,084 that you'd like to have?         1171 01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:16,822  - [Encampment Resident]          Yeah, yeah. I do. I do.         1172 01:10:18,123 --> 01:10:19,391 - [Ginger] So what's              gonna happen then,              1173 01:10:19,491 --> 01:10:20,692 is all we're gonna                 be able to do,                 1174 01:10:20,792 --> 01:10:21,893 is try to give them instructions 1175 01:10:21,994 --> 01:10:24,263 on how to pack your stuff up.    1176 01:10:28,734 --> 01:10:32,337 (foreboding music)               1177 01:10:56,261 --> 01:11:00,365 (continuous thumping)            (cameras shuttering)             1178 01:11:04,569 --> 01:11:07,406 (melancholic music)              1179 01:11:09,875 --> 01:11:11,143 (machine beeping)                1180 01:11:28,627 --> 01:11:30,395  (crowd yelling)                 1181 01:11:32,597 --> 01:11:34,333 (machine beeping)                1182 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:54,413   - This is the first time I'm    in the park, in the real park.  1183 01:12:55,981 --> 01:12:57,549 Real, I mean,                    1184 01:12:57,649 --> 01:13:01,052   no one here except residents    of the city, enjoying the park  1185 01:13:01,153 --> 01:13:03,321 since I purchased the place.     1186 01:13:04,589 --> 01:13:07,492  I'm glad that the city           took part and finally,          1187 01:13:10,796 --> 01:13:12,898   well, some people, I'm         sure found places to stay.       1188 01:13:12,998 --> 01:13:15,233  Others had the choice,          1189 01:13:15,333 --> 01:13:17,769  but they had to leave this park 1190 01:13:17,869 --> 01:13:20,572  and I'm glad that it happened.  1191 01:13:20,672 --> 01:13:22,040 (dog barking)                    1192 01:13:22,140 --> 01:13:23,775 Yeah. You loving it here.        1193 01:13:23,875 --> 01:13:25,310 Oh, there you go.                1194 01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:27,112 This is what we've                been waiting for.               1195 01:13:29,214 --> 01:13:30,949 - [Zach] And so you're going       back to your place then?       1196 01:13:31,049 --> 01:13:33,785 - No, I gave my place              to some friends.               1197 01:13:33,885 --> 01:13:34,719 They just sold their place       1198 01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:35,954  and they were homeless           for two weeks.                  1199 01:13:36,054 --> 01:13:40,258 So I said, "Here,                just live here."                 1200 01:13:40,358 --> 01:13:43,361  I'm staying at my               boyfriend's place.               1201 01:13:55,774 --> 01:13:58,477 (melancholic music)              1202 01:14:24,836 --> 01:14:28,440 (melancholic music continues)    1203 01:14:56,268 --> 01:15:00,272 (melancholic music continues)    1204 01:15:22,994 --> 01:15:25,497 (distant crowd chattering)       1205 01:15:26,998 --> 01:15:31,536 (distant crowd chattering)