1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,920 Good evening, and welcome to the "Alone Australia Season 2-- 2 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:20,160 Reunion." 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,760 I'm Hamish Blake, and I'm here tonight 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,400 to see if I can survive a whole hour in a TV studio 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,120 with only minimal snacks. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,320 And I can only bring 10 essential people. 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,960 I thought on behalf of all of us that have loved the show 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,880 and have a lot of questions, I would bring the participants 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,320 from "Alone Australia Season 2." 10 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:38,960 Tonight, we're going to be talking with them 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,840 about their time on the land and comparing their strategies. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,040 And we've also got lots of never-before-seen footage 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,280 and some massive revelations. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,840 They got 10 deer. 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,840 No, they didn't. 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,480 [laughter] 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Tonight, we are going to get the good stuff, all trout, no eels. 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,080 [laughter] 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,680 I am genuinely a superfan of "Alone." 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,120 I'm thrilled to be here. 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,640 They have just watched the final episode. 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,080 They've just finished watching it together. 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Tonight, we finally get the chance 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,760 to compare their experiences. 25 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,040 I can't wait to hear what they think 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,320 and how they feel about the final result. 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaking of the final result, let's start 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,040 with a massive round of applause. 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,880 Krzysztof, congratulations, mate. 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,760 [applause] 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Thanks. 32 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:22,360 Well done. 33 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Mate, it was probably the most unorthodox way to win. 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,760 What's it like watching it back? 35 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,240 It's definitely a unique experience. 36 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,760 I was not expecting it. 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,040 I was-- I thought I was going to be medically pulled, 38 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,280 and that was it. 39 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,360 It was weird, surreal. 40 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,960 It still hasn't sunk in. 41 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,920 From where I sat, I thought probably one of the standout 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,520 features of your experience was your positivity 43 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,640 and your positive mindset. 44 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,600 And we do have a little bit of a clip to watch for how that went 45 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,080 throughout the series. 46 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,760 Another beautiful day in paradise. 47 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 (SINGING) We're on our way to launch another boat 48 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,960 And hopefully catch lots of fish and lots of fish 49 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,200 (SPEAKING) Wow, anyone, if they ever get the chance, 50 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,640 come out here and check out this unknown location. 51 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,160 It's stunningly beautiful. 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,480 Mm. 53 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,240 Mm. 54 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Overall, life is good. 55 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,760 (SINGING) I'm making hound tongue soup 56 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:26,600 (SPEAKING) Nothing special, but it's better than nothing. 57 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Who does the camera love? 58 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,360 Camera loves you. 59 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,760 There's snow on them mountains right there. 60 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:35,720 This place is just so cool, seriously. 61 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,040 This is Krzysztof, and I am officially ordering a pizza. 62 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,120 And you thought I was going to tap. 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,080 Not happening. 64 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Mate, was that your strategy going in, to go, 65 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,960 I will always try and veer positively? 66 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,440 I don't think that was a strategy. 67 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,560 I think that's just me. 68 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,920 HAMISH: Yeah, right. 69 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,640 The other thing that you talked about on the show 70 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,600 was your neurodiversity, and it resonated with viewers. 71 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,440 Is that something you're really glad you talked about? 72 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Yeah, I was a little bit afraid 73 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,280 and a little bit apprehensive about what the reaction would 74 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,800 be. 75 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,120 But now that I've spoken about it, I feel really good. 76 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 The feedback that I've gotten from people 77 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,120 has just been nothing but support. 78 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,720 There's people that have reached out, that are friends are going, 79 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,360 yeah, me too. 80 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,040 It's-- I'm great-- grateful that there's someone out there 81 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,440 talking about it. 82 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,040 Yeah, it's been nice. 83 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,640 I think it's an awesome thing. 84 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,120 What is it that happens when you're out there by yourself 85 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,800 for so long that-- that makes you want to face those things 86 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,280 and want to open up and, you know, 87 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,040 then share them with the camera? 88 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,880 It is interesting in conversation 89 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,760 because in the survival field, they talk about, you know, 90 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,880 the three minutes without air, you know, 91 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,120 the three hours without shelter, three days without water. 92 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,000 But they're going to obviously three weeks without food, 93 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,920 and then they go into the three months without companionship. 94 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,080 And when you're out there alone for the period of time someone's 95 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,080 got to spent there, you're looking to talk to somebody, 96 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720 and you're looking to express the things that you really feel 97 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,160 like you need to talk about. 98 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,920 And you might sit there in silence for half an hour 99 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,760 around the campfire. 100 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Then something will come up. 101 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,200 And I think that's-- 102 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,080 that sort of which get captured. 103 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,400 The fire can often bring out honesty and openness 104 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,200 that a person possibly can't, yeah. 105 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,760 When we're in real life, we've got-- yeah, 106 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,040 we've got things to distract us. 107 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Mm. 108 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,920 HAMISH: Beautiful. 109 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,800 Suzan, we can only have one winner. 110 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,640 What was your reaction when you-- because you've only fresh 111 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,840 off seeing the-- exactly the placings. 112 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:28,840 You've just seen the episode. 113 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,320 What was your reaction? 114 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,640 It's pretty difficult because there's, you know, 115 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,480 one day between. 116 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,240 I was really pleased to see Krzysztof there at the end. 117 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Yeah. 118 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Yeah, that-- that made me happy. 119 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,280 It made me sort of second guess if I made the right decision. 120 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,240 But then, you know, I have to go back and remember 121 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,480 that on minimal exertion, I'm getting this really big, heavy 122 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,280 heart rate, and something was just not right there. 123 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,080 And I really made the call because my body was saying 124 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,560 I need something, and it needed nutrition. 125 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,320 HAMISH: Yeah. 126 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,320 And it was really-- 127 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,920 With some help, yeah. 128 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,560 Yeah, it really played out because 12 hours after I left, 129 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,360 I was in the emergency department-- 130 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,960 Were you really? 131 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,640 --of a big hospital with a drip in my arm and my heart 132 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,000 being monitored. 133 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,480 So I made the right call at the right time. 134 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,280 Obviously, yeah, you made-- 135 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,280 SUZAN: Yeah. 136 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,440 --absolutely the right call. 137 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,080 And like so many people on this show, 138 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,880 we saw your mind was so strong, going right up to that point 139 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,280 where your body was just like, hey, 140 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,160 I've been eating weeds for 63 days tonight. 141 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,480 Could you please feed me? 142 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Exactly. 143 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,200 All right, there was still one other person in contention 144 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,800 in that final episode, our Swedish model, slash, 145 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,000 mountain man, slash, hunter, slash, provider, slash, man 146 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,320 mountain. 147 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,480 Andreas, you mentioned in the last episode 148 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,880 when, I remember, on the beach, they came to get you and said, 149 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:50,840 are you proud of yourself? 150 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,680 And you're like, not yet. 151 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:55,880 Are you proud yet? 152 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,360 Not really, I think. 153 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,840 Really? 154 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,480 I think-- no, I think if you're a competitive person 155 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,880 and you have a certain goal in mind, 156 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,640 and if you don't fulfill that goal, I think I did OK. 157 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,440 HAMISH: Interesting. 158 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,160 And that's about it. 159 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Like, I think there's things I could have done different 160 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,280 probably, a couple of things. 161 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,520 What would you do different? 162 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,560 What are they? 163 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Oh, just minor things, I think. 164 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,560 I think I would be-- 165 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,520 if I knew what I know now, I'd probably be a lot more passive. 166 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,120 The only vegetable matter I really ate were the mamaku 167 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:37,640 fronds, and that would be a good 45-minute walk to get them. 168 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,840 This is the hard thing, I think, 169 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,520 for viewers to understand. 170 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Because to understand how long an hour and a half round trip 171 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,520 is every day, that's an hour and a half episode, not 172 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,720 a very exciting one. 173 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,680 But that's the really difficult thing 174 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,200 for us to understand at home, just how much 175 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,240 effort is being put into stuff. 176 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Does anyone else feel like they spent too much energy? 177 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,240 I mean, aside from deer, which we'll get to later in the show, 178 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,040 but too much energy foraging for-- for such a small return? 179 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:05,520 Yeah. 180 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Yeah. 181 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,720 HAMISH: Yeah? 182 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,840 Yeah. 183 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,680 HAMISH: Is that a universal field? 184 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:09,920 Even, like, for fire. 185 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,400 Like, it's not just foraging for food, 186 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,040 but it could be foraging for wood materials, bedding, 187 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,480 the things you think you need. 188 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,640 And you just-- and you get fixated on them as well. 189 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,640 So all of a sudden, you've realized you've just spent three 190 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,440 days fluffing up your bed. 191 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,120 It's like, really-- 192 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,040 It makes you comfortable, and it puts you in a good mindset. 193 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,600 It did. 194 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,480 But-- oh, firewood, you've got three weeks of firewood 195 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,280 ready to go, but you've just passed out, asleep, you know. 196 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,040 It's like-- 197 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,520 So it seems like-- 198 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,640 I mean, it's a game of constant tradeoffs, really. 199 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Like, it sounds like minute to minute, 200 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,920 you're just always evaluating the trade-off. 201 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,240 Yeah. 202 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:45,880 HAMISH: Would that be a fair thing to say? 203 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Absolutely. 204 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,560 I mean, Andreas is like, you know, 205 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 it's so easy for us on the couch to watch the episode. 206 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,280 It's obviously so much different when you're out there 207 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,720 and you're just always making the best decision 208 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,360 that you can in the moment. 209 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,040 You dragged in some big fish, to borrow a term that you were very 210 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,880 fond of, some stonkers. 211 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Yeah. 212 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Oh, Look at that stonker. 213 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Can you give us the dictionary definition of a stonker? 214 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,200 No idea. 215 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,680 I don't actually even know-- 216 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,600 I don't actually know where I picked up the word. 217 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,440 SUZAN: It's a feeling. 218 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,120 ANDREAS: And it was-- 219 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,520 It's a feeling. 220 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,560 It was-- my first thought when I heard it was, 221 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,960 I can't remember saying it, and where did I pick up that word? 222 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,200 I think it was quite fitting. 223 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,880 Like, I like it, but-- 224 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Well, I mean, it's probably the raw emotion 225 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,320 of catching a fish. 226 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Yeah. 227 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,840 And there weren't that many fish caught 228 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,200 in the-- in the series. 229 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,840 I mean, Tamika, you were another person-- like, 230 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,920 your sound effects when you caught a fish, it was like-- 231 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,640 I know. 232 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:45,320 [grunts] [laughs] 233 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,640 You can't fake that stuff. 234 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,000 I know. 235 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Did you-- how did you feel watching it back? 236 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,600 Oh, yeah, it was a bit embarrassing. 237 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,600 [laughs] 238 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,400 HAMISH: But not really, I mean-- 239 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,000 No, it's a feeling. 240 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,520 That was the most joyous moment out there, was that fish. 241 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,760 It's-- it's-- you can't stop it. 242 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,440 Oh, mate, we all felt it. 243 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,800 We were like, that is the-- this is the most primal noise a human 244 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,480 has ever made. 245 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,320 It was just like sheer relief and awe, comes out as stonkers. 246 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Yeah. 247 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,440 We all know, like, hindsight is 20/20, and it's-- 248 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,760 I'm front and center with this, very easy to sit at home 249 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,800 and go, oh, what about this, what about that? 250 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,200 But is there any-- any big ones where people would have done 251 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,200 something differently, given their-- given their chance 252 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:25,840 again? 253 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Not tap out. 254 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Not-- 255 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:29,440 [laughter] 256 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Maybe not think too much about-- 257 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,520 because I found what I did was think too much about all 258 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:35,440 the things I couldn't do. 259 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Interesting. 260 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Like, you can't have eel. 261 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,440 You can't cut, you know, a tree that's this big or this small 262 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,240 or take this. 263 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,680 It starts-- you start to get caught up in that. 264 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,600 And then you kind of think, well, what can I do? 265 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,240 It's interesting, comes back to that positivity thing, 266 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,320 doesn't it? LEANNE: Yeah, it does. 267 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,440 It really does. 268 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,760 You're thinking of what can you do 269 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:55,680 or the things that are out of your control. 270 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,360 Yeah. 271 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 And I think, yeah, I just kind of got really caught up in that. 272 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:00,760 All right. 273 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,080 In a similar vein, if we sort of said, 274 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,680 all right, we've got the bus ready to go, 275 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,520 and you can all go back in tomorrow. 276 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:09,080 Hands up, who'd go back in? 277 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Same place? 278 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,760 HAMISH: Wow, I guess we've got-- we've got eight yeses. 279 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Can you take someone? 280 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,600 One no and one conditional. 281 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Conditional, yeah, definitely conditional. 282 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,600 So you don't-- you wouldn't want your location again? 283 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Absolutely not. 284 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,000 HAMISH: Had enough of that beach? 285 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:23,640 Yeah, never going to see it ever again. 286 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,160 [laughter] 287 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:25,880 You sure about that? 288 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,480 Yeah, 100%. 289 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,960 Well, look, that was sort of the people towards the very end, 290 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,160 from those final people to the very first to go. 291 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,480 On just night two, in episode 2, we 292 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,200 had our first medical extraction, 293 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,880 and it was very scary to watch. 294 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Mike, let's just remind everyone-- 295 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,680 I'm sure you probably don't want to go through this again, 296 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,760 but let's remind everyone how full on that night was for you. 297 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,480 [tense music] 298 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:01,000 How are you going? 299 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Man, I'm scared, actually. 300 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Yeah, yeah, I can tell on the phone. 301 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,120 So I'll just take your blood pressure there. 302 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,120 It will just come really intensely. 303 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,760 How old are you, Mike? 304 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,360 60. 305 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Yeah, I understand. 306 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,720 Yeah. 307 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:28,520 That's OK. 308 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:29,360 That's OK. 309 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Yeah. 310 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,080 Pretty scary experience. 311 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,080 [sighs] 312 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,880 It is the right thing, Mike, to call us. 313 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Um-- yeah. 314 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Well. 315 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,560 MIKE (VOICEOVER): I thought I was going to die. 316 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,200 I really thought I was going to die. 317 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,120 And it's not my time. 318 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,280 It's not my time to die. 319 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,120 [sniffles] 320 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,200 [chuckles] 321 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,760 Mike, you're laughing and crying watching it back. 322 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,080 Yeah. 323 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,120 It's still obviously very, very real and raw. 324 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Have your kids seen that? 325 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,480 They have, yeah. 326 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,680 HAMISH: What-- like, what was your kids' response when your-- 327 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,880 when your family saw that? 328 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Well, they said they're so proud that I 329 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:28,640 did the right thing. 330 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,080 HAMISH: Totally. 331 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,600 I did-- I did do what I did on the night, yeah. 332 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Yeah. 333 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Yeah. 334 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,320 We're so proud of you, too. 335 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,600 Ahh. 336 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,040 You went and got checked out in a hospital. 337 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,280 What was-- what was the problem? 338 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,440 The problem was that I had-- 339 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,280 like, a lot of us here, we'd sort 340 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,960 of fattened up for Christmas. 341 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,000 We tried to put a little bit more weight prior to going out, 342 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,760 all fat, mainly, as a source of food down the track. 343 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,440 And in that process, I put on 13 kilos. 344 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,800 And my metabolism reacted adversely. 345 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,640 And the pain I actually had was simply reflux. 346 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,560 Right. 347 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,880 MIKE: Yeah. 348 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,120 And you'd obviously never had that before. 349 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,040 No, no, not like that. 350 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,960 And-- and the sequence of events sort of transpired 351 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,640 over nearly two hours. 352 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,320 The pain came, it dissipated. 353 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,680 It came back 45 minutes later. 354 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,320 I sat upright. 355 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,800 And after that, on the third occasion, 356 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,600 it became quite intense. 357 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,880 And that's when I started thinking, wow, 358 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,640 could this be something more? 359 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,920 If this is a heart attack, I might not see my kids again. 360 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,800 The fourth time it happened, it was so intense. 361 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,400 I shot bolt upright, clenching my chest and went, no, I can't. 362 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,800 I've got to ring up and say, I'm having these terrible pains 363 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,520 in my chest. 364 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:49,640 Mate, good on you. 365 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,960 You did the right thing. 366 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,080 You're out there with a sat phone and GPS 367 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,080 for that exact reason. 368 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,560 Yeah. 369 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,240 It's interesting to see how far you can go, but not 370 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,160 at any cost. 371 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,040 And, you know, well done. 372 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Look, everyone's "Alone" experience is really different, 373 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,000 as we're hearing. 374 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,320 But something that is very important for every single 375 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,960 person, no matter how long or short their stay, 376 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,560 is everyone's shelter. 377 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,400 We want to have a quick look here at all of this season's 378 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:15,040 shelters. 379 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,760 I'll show you my building style. 380 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,840 Oh, yeah, you walk around and you-- 381 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,800 you pick up a bit of wood, you look for a hole, 382 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,520 and you put it in. 383 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,040 So that's the first natural building course 384 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,200 I'll be conducting. 385 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,160 All right, some great shots. 386 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Rick, there was some online querying, 387 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,120 I think, as to the sturdiness of your shelter. 388 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,000 I mean, for someone that went so deep, there were people going, 389 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 like, is this the most solid shelter we've ever seen here? 390 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,080 But was that part of your plan? 391 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,120 It certainly was, to a fair degree. 392 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,520 There's probably three main reasons 393 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,400 I kept mine quite simplistic, and one of them 394 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,840 is definitely the light levels. 395 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Where my shelter was back in there, it was dark. 396 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,600 I'd have to put a headlamp on to get batteries for the camera, 397 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,120 whatever it was, yeah. 398 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,720 I couldn't find a sunnier position within proximity. 399 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,120 So sunlight was a factor. 400 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,320 HAMISH: Yeah, it was. 401 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,400 A lot of natural lighting was important. 402 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:51,880 Absolutely. 403 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Yeah. 404 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,400 One I underestimated, the lack of sunlight 405 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,720 was something that hit pretty heavy. 406 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,400 The other one was being able to lay down. 407 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,040 If I was to hear an animal, a deer or a possum moving around, 408 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,960 I'd like to be able to just roll left and right 409 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,040 and see potentially what it was. 410 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:06,800 That's one factor. 411 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Makes total sense. 412 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Also, driftwood-- to make anything structural around me, 413 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,160 driftwood cove, as I called it, it was about 400 meters away. 414 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 And there's a massive, big log you'd need to climb over 415 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,240 to bring it back. 416 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,280 And I-- I don't want to waste that energy bringing it 417 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,720 all the way back. 418 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,560 So whilst I could have put a bit more around it, 419 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,480 it predominantly kept me pretty dry. 420 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,040 All in all, I wouldn't change it a great deal. 421 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,480 Tamika, on the other end of the spectrum of not wanting 422 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,840 to use too much driftwood, you might have used all 423 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,360 the driftwood in New Zealand. 424 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,600 [sighs] I think I did. 425 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,960 But it was an absolute work of art. 426 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,920 It was-- it was a work of art, your shelter. 427 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,160 Someone tweeted, "Tamika's shelter looks so good it could 428 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,640 be put up for rent for at least $600 a week if it was 429 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:49,560 in Sydney." 430 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,920 Probably would have, yeah. 431 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Did you-- did you get very attached to your home? 432 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,880 Attached is one word, obsessed might be another. 433 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,840 HAMISH: Yeah, right. 434 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,640 It became a bit of a focus. 435 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,960 HAMISH: That's good. 436 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,440 It was kind of, like, my daily meditation. 437 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,960 Oh, that bit of wood there, that'll go home with me. 438 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:09,680 It was something to do, apart from being everything 439 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,040 that a shelter should be. 440 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,160 I probably could have saved a bit of energy. 441 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,920 But that's interesting, though, that it became-- like, 442 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,880 everyone needed stuff to pass the time. 443 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:19,680 And that became your-- 444 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,000 Yeah, that was mine. 445 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:21,520 HAMISH: --that became your project, right. 446 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,200 Yeah. 447 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:23,520 All right, I-- 448 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,920 this-- this may or may not work, but who-- 449 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,600 who here-- if you couldn't have your shelter, who's would you 450 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 have chosen? 451 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,720 All right, so, Andreas, you can't have your shelter, 452 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,000 whose shelter are you picking? 453 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,920 In my location or a different location? 454 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,760 In your location. 455 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,920 Mm, Krzysztof's. 456 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,160 CONTESTANT: Yeah. 457 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,360 ANDREAS: He had a really good shelter. 458 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,960 I liked his insulation of the walls. 459 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:47,960 CONTESTANT: Yup. 460 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:49,240 HAMISH: Is that a common answer? 461 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:49,960 I've seen a lot of nodding for Krzysztof's. 462 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:51,200 Yes. 463 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,800 Tamika's, it was a good, the fireplace. 464 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Jack, you'd go with Tamika's? 465 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,720 Yeah, yeah. 466 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,320 CONTESTANT: Yep. 467 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,600 HAMISH: Anyone else-- any other options apart from Tamika 468 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,280 and Krzysztof's? 469 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,960 I'd go-- 470 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,600 Rick's. 471 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,440 I'd go Rick's-- 472 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,240 I'd go with Krzysztof's. 473 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,960 --or Jack's, yeah. 474 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:05,880 Yeah, OK. 475 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,880 I like the minimal. 476 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Now, no matter which version of "Alone" you do in the world, 477 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,240 it is a tough, tough competition. 478 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,920 But whereas on the US version, they'll 479 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,640 say, like, a one in a thousand chance a bear might bite you, 480 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,040 for our participants in New Zealand 481 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,160 this year, there was a 100% chance that a thousand sandflies 482 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,240 would bite you per minute. 483 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,880 Everyone, look at the monitor here. 484 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,360 I just want to see if this triggers you. 485 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,200 Does this? 486 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:30,640 [laughter] 487 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Does that take you back? 488 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:33,800 That's-- Rick's-- 489 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Rick's going-- Rick's going-- 490 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,960 all right, we'll take it off. 491 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:38,720 We'll take it off just because even 492 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,000 I'm getting annoyed by that, and I wasn't there. 493 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,480 You can't take it off. 494 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,520 OK, let's have a little look at what it was actually 495 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,520 like in real life. 496 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,640 [nature music] 497 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Imagine the worst time you've been attacked by mozzies 498 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,440 and times it by, like, 20. 499 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,000 That's what these sandflies are like. 500 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,320 They're just relentless. 501 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,840 Ugh, learning to deal with them is an experience in itself. 502 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,720 Like, they are ferocious, [bleep]. 503 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,840 I think I hate them more than I hate mosquitoes. 504 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,200 These midges, the sandfly, oh, it's 505 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,440 a challenge keeping it together. 506 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,240 I think they'd get even the most hardened Buddhist monk to crack. 507 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Where do they come from? 508 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,080 Where do they eat when I'm not here? 509 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Ahh, haa, ahh! 510 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,360 The god of the forest had a daughter, 511 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,440 and she was the goddess of death. 512 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,360 And she sent the namu-namu, the sandflies, 513 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,840 to this land and this lake to protect it from people. 514 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,200 Yeah, it does a pretty good job, I think. 515 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,280 [laughs] 516 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,760 Ugh. 517 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Ow. 518 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,720 I think I've got a couple of hundred bites on me now. 519 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,960 I've got them on my hands as well. 520 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:08,560 Nasty. 521 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,440 Even as you're doing that, you can see sandflies on the camera. 522 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,760 And at home, I'm watching, going, don't do it, 523 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,360 don't show us-- like, don't take more clothes off. 524 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,120 Now, you run hot, and so we're sleeping with minimal clothing 525 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,240 on. 526 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,760 Hot-blooded South American, so. 527 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,800 Not the best thing to be around that many sandflies. 528 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,240 No. 529 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,680 Some mornings, I'd wake up, and yeah, they bit me 530 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,200 in some unmentionable places. 531 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,600 Do you still-- like, is this still scarring, 532 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,400 either physical or mental? 533 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,800 No, no, no scarring. 534 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,640 And they only got me when I was making my bed. 535 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,000 Wow. 536 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,360 [snaps] All those bites were from one moment? 537 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Not all of them, but the majority 538 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,040 were, yeah, because I was distracted. 539 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600 I was focusing on-- on making my bed. 540 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,000 And they just-- because I wasn't moving around. 541 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,760 When you move around a lot, they're-- they're not on you. 542 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Oh, cool, so you just have to stay moving for 100 days? 543 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,400 That's right. 544 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,600 I'm seeing a lot of nodding here, a lot of flashbacks. 545 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Did anyone anticipate that something so tiny 546 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,360 would have such an outsized effect? 547 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,400 No, nothing prepares you for that. 548 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,320 I have a bit of a thing with sandflies. 549 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,520 My parents live in sandfly country. 550 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,280 So the fireplace, I literally was 551 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,960 like, I'm going to smoke these bastards out. 552 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,080 Good. 553 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,160 So, yeah, it just shows, though. 554 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,960 It doesn't matter the size of the enemy. 555 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:25,640 HAMISH: No. 556 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,040 They-- they consume so much of our energy to-- to make sure we 557 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,920 didn't get put out by those things. 558 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,440 It was amazing to watch because it 559 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,600 was, like, no one could withstand the relentlessness-- 560 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,440 TAMIKA: Yeah. 561 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,720 --of the flies. 562 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,880 It didn't matter if you yelled at them, 563 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:38,880 didn't matter if you're angry, didn't 564 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,720 matter if they were in smoke. 565 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,040 They just kept coming. 566 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,480 I was covered up all the way to my eyeballs, 567 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,400 and they just quite simply stung me on my eyeballs. 568 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,960 [laughter] 569 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:49,280 So the sandflies, big issue for everybody, but for one 570 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,360 of our participants, there was an issue that would not 571 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,360 have occurred to most of the people here, myself included, 572 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,240 until I saw it play out. 573 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Let's take a look. 574 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,200 I've been bleeding for almost 30 days. 575 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:10,520 And, ugh, as a woman in the bush, that's hard core. 576 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,200 That has exhausted me. 577 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,160 There's been a lot of self-care. 578 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,920 It's every few hours. 579 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,680 Oh my god. 580 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,160 I'm washing myself. 581 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,160 I'm sore. 582 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,480 I'm bloody. 583 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,320 You know, it's just so freaking annoying. 584 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:34,320 I had to do laundry out here, for God's sake. 585 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,400 Little harder for us women out here at times. 586 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,440 We've just got to take that extra care. 587 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Silly as that may look, you've got 588 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,640 to keep your health in check. 589 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,440 Oh, it's chilly on the nether regions. 590 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,680 Agh, acceptance of the body and its limitations. 591 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,600 Sorry, my family. 592 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,120 Sorry. 593 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Tamika, well, it's so real, and it was obviously so 594 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,240 exhausting for you out there. 595 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,760 It was. 596 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,400 Now, seeing that footage that has not been seen before-- 597 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,160 Oh, thank god. 598 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,120 Is that going to-- 599 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,880 HAMISH: Yeah, this is on TV. 600 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,520 [laughter] 601 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Was there a part of you that remembers filming that, then you 602 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,040 saw the episode and was like, OK, great. 603 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,080 I'm like, they'll cut that. 604 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,840 HAMISH: They had to make it then. 605 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,880 They'd cut that. 606 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,800 But it must have been exhausting. 607 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,560 What impact did it have, physically and psychologically? 608 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Both, equal, I think. 609 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,920 And I've come from warm climates as well, 610 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,720 so that continued coverage in moist environments was tenfold. 611 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,880 And so hence the drying because-- 612 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,720 There's no towels. 613 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,360 TAMIKA: --I was sore. 614 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,480 Yeah. 615 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,600 TAMIKA: You know, and as a woman, 616 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,080 when you're bleeding out there, you're OK. 617 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080 You expect it in life. 618 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,160 We've-- we've come to know what that feeling is like. 619 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,080 And you do it for maybe seven days, 10 620 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,560 if you're hardcore into it. 621 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,040 And yet to go that long, I was just 622 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,880 hating it and hating myself. 623 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,440 And I'm like, what? 624 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,480 And it took me a long time to just settle down and go, 625 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,200 this is my journey, and I can either tap out and whinge 626 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,160 my whole life or I can just get on with it. 627 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,080 So yeah, it was annoying, to be honest, yeah. 628 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,320 I know. 629 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,760 So even just from my household but also 630 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,360 from the-- the viewership at large, people really, 631 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,800 really connected with, you know, what you were going through. 632 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,120 You can see some of the tweets here. 633 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,760 One of the questions, though, was 634 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,320 like, what are the actual rules on items that you're allowed 635 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,160 to take? 636 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,960 And I'm interested, too. 637 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,560 What are the rules? 638 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,600 You can-- you have a chat with the doctor before you go 639 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,280 on the show about what sort of methods you want to practice 640 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,520 while you're out there. 641 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,480 And I, too, received a lot of messages 642 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,040 about why didn't I just go on the pill. 643 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,080 But I haven't been on the pill for, like, 30 years, 644 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880 and I don't want to change my body just for that purpose. 645 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,560 So I chose just to choose my natural patterns of pads 646 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,800 or free bleeding. 647 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,600 But out there, it's cold. 648 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,480 And when blood comes out, it's really freaking cold. 649 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,080 So it was pads. 650 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960 And when I ran out of pads or I couldn't get up 651 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,200 through the night, I had a hanging in my shelter 652 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,320 that was different courses of-- of moss. 653 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,280 So it was, like, grade 1, 2, and 3, for whatever I needed. 654 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:12,960 So-- 655 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,640 Wow. 656 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,440 And it was really soothing in comparison to the cotton pads. 657 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Is that something you researched beforehand, 658 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,000 or you improvised it later after-- 659 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,600 No, I found it out on "Alone." 660 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,360 I was like-- because I was wiping other areas, I'm like, 661 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,920 well, that actually feels pretty nice, so-- 662 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,320 My god. 663 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,160 TAMIKA: --I'll just whack that there as well. 664 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,320 Incredible effort. 665 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,000 I just love that you talked about it 666 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,680 and that you used the word blood rather than all the other words 667 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,640 that are made up. - It's an everyday-- 668 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Yeah. 669 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,520 --thing, and I think it just doesn't-- 670 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,440 yeah, it's just not normalized enough in our society, so. 671 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,320 Yeah, I agree. 672 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,120 I agree with that, too. 673 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,240 I agree with that. 674 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:40,920 It was beautifully done, Tamika. 675 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Thank you, mate. 676 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,200 All right, it's time to talk about one 677 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,680 of everyone's favorite things, bushcraft. 678 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,160 Right now, we're in for a treat. 679 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,760 There is a bunch of stuff that didn't 680 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640 make the episodes, never-before-seen MacGyver level 681 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,720 bushcraft. 682 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,520 Please enjoy. 683 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,960 I've sort of set myself some goals of things 684 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:07,840 that I want to achieve during the course of the day. 685 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,400 They're really good little morale boosters. 686 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,200 I've got a concept of what I want to build, 687 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:17,200 just basically a little bushcrafter's chair, two post 688 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,360 coming in from the front, meeting at the back. 689 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,640 And then you have two coming up the side, meeting at the top, 690 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240 with my back against there. 691 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,960 It's a plan. 692 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,360 I have started stripping some flax because I want to make, 693 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320 like, a bulbous canister with a little lid 694 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,360 to put the fish fillets in once they're dry. 695 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,680 I'm just going to have a look. 696 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,360 If I can turn a reed into a bit of a needle. 697 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Oh, yeah. 698 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,280 And then I can just poke that through, and we're away. 699 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,760 So I'm a bit paranoid about spilling my soup in the fire. 700 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,600 So I'm just going to make up a quick sizzle for holding 701 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,320 the pot, which will sit like this on a stick, 702 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,240 and then you sort of swing it out, and then over the fire. 703 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,440 There we go, woo. 704 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,440 What I want to do is tie this onto my hook and make a lure. 705 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960 There's this prickly stuff, but it's real bendy. 706 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:25,360 Now, my hope is that it's bendy and strong enough 707 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,400 that I can make a perfect hoop. 708 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,400 Then I've got a perfect fish net shape. 709 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,760 Step one, step two of net-making. 710 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,360 A knitting needle is basically like a little-- 711 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,280 a little tool that makes tying a net easier. 712 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800 So you basically use this as you wind up all your thread, 713 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,160 and you use that as a needle as you weave. 714 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,120 Tying a net, if you haven't ever tied a net, 715 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,360 it's a very simple sheet bend knot. 716 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,960 Once you get started, it's really simple. 717 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,560 It's just repetitive. 718 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,560 Oh, there you go. 719 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,360 You won't find that in the IKEA Christmas catalog, 720 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,160 I can tell you. 721 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Dun-dow, there's the finished product. 722 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,360 I'm pretty happy with it. 723 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,600 That should work. 724 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,520 Well, I hope it works anyways. 725 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Let's test it. 726 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Ugh. 727 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,960 Ooh, it's starting to look like a fishing net. 728 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,400 Actually, quite good. 729 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Hopefully, it will hold a fish. 730 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,320 So good. 731 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,920 So many awesome things built. 732 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Good job. 733 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,360 [laughs] Well done. 734 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280 Leanne, love seeing you use the pom-pom as a fishing lure. 735 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Was that the plan going in? 736 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,280 Were you like, I could repurpose this pom-pom? 737 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,960 The pom-pom, it kept getting caught on branches and things. 738 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,320 Like, whenever you go for a walk, my beanie would fall off. 739 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,240 And I'd-- like, I love that beanie, but I thought, 740 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,080 that's got to go. 741 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,920 It's your time, pom-pom. 742 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,840 The pom-poms got to go. 743 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,640 It's time for you to get-- 744 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,920 And I can't use it. 745 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,440 HAMISH: It's done for the greater good. 746 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,880 Exactly. 747 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,080 You know, if you can't get any worms or anything, 748 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280 then yeah, just repurpose what you have. 749 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Krzysztof, you made quite a lot of rope. 750 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,080 It was very impressive to watch. 751 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,920 Did you do anything with the rope, though? 752 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Did you-- 753 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,200 Oh, yeah. 754 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,720 I think you can actually see in some of the shots on my shelter, 755 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480 there's lashings that are done with all the rope 756 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,480 that I was making. 757 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,560 Made any rope since the show? 758 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Have not had the opportunity as yet. 759 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,080 HAMISH: You can now buy rope. 760 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Huzzah. 761 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,000 [laughter] 762 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,680 HAMISH: Well, speaking of ingenuity, Rick, 763 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,120 can we talk boots? 764 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Yes, let's talk boots. 765 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,360 OK, look, one of the big storylines from the series 766 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,360 this year was Rick's broken boots. 767 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,000 I think it's one of the things I love so much 768 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,720 about the show, where you're like, if someone said you will 769 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,720 be so deeply invested in, like, 10 minutes of watching 770 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,000 a man essentially be a cobbler in the bush, I'd say, 771 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,440 I don't think that sounds like a TV show. 772 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,320 But on this, it really is like. 773 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,520 Why didn't you get new boots before the show? 774 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,080 RICK: Those boots are like, they've done Kokotas, 775 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,920 they've done South Coast track of Tassie. 776 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 But once they're so worn in, it's 777 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,640 like, I've got an option here. 778 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,480 I'll go and buy another pair of $400 boots 779 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,240 with not a lot of time to wear them in, 780 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,160 or I get them professionally resold. 781 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,760 So I'd been-- I had that done six months before. 782 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400 HAMISH: Yup. 783 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840 I'd certainly checked all the seams and beeswax into them, 784 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,200 double check before I left. 785 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000 And I was 100% confident that they would hold up. 786 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,520 There was no doubt. 787 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,040 We could just clearly see it was just horrible luck. 788 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,400 RICK: That's right, yeah. 789 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,120 And did the hose-- did the melted hose work? 790 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,160 RICK: It did surprisingly well, mixed in with the-- 791 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,640 with the charcoal. 792 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,400 Not necessarily waterproof, but they held together, 793 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,880 and they were comfortable to wear. 794 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Well, Rick, we have something for you. 795 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,280 On behalf of everyone watching, I'm 796 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680 going to do something that I know a lot of people 797 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,960 would have loved to have seen happen in situ. 798 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Just using a bit of my bush skills here, 799 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,480 I'm going to forage. 800 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,120 Um, oh my god, what's this? 801 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,720 [laughter] 802 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,640 Here you go. 803 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,640 [applause] 804 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,120 Wish-- wish we could have done it for you out there. 805 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,000 Thank you. 806 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,200 Thank you. 807 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,960 Oh, no, yeah, that's-- that's awesome. 808 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Super appreciated. 809 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,240 It is time to talk about the one thing 810 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,600 that nobody he had any control over. 811 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,840 It's the weather. 812 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,080 Let's see what our participants had to deal with. 813 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:37,200 [wind whistling and hurling] 814 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Whatever the storm got to do, bring it. 815 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,200 [wind whistling] 816 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,920 Winds are shaking everything around. 817 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,440 [WIND WHISTLING, THUNDER ROLLING] 818 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Oh my god. 819 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Here you go. 820 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,920 Look at that. 821 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,760 It's raining ice. 822 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,280 I'm not sure if I was dreaming, 823 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,480 but I think there was a little Earth tremor. 824 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Wasn't big, but it was enough. 825 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,040 I felt almost-- felt a little bit seasick. 826 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,880 [thunder rolling] 827 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,400 There's something like 150 to 200 earthquakes, 828 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,840 significant earthquakes in New Zealand every year. 829 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,400 The ground definitely shook just before. 830 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880 [wind whistling] 831 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,400 I just want this storm over. 832 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440 [thunder rolling] 833 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Right, first things first. 834 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,640 Tamika and Suzan, you guys were talking about earthquakes. 835 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,200 Fun fact, we've talked to the seismologists 836 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,560 while everyone was out there filming. 837 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,400 There were 156 earthquakes in the area, all minor. 838 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,480 But you guys did feel the ground shake. 839 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,440 There were two significant tremors. 840 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,480 And did anyone else feel the ground shake 841 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,360 while they were out there? 842 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,480 Yeah. 843 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,920 HAMISH: Chace, you could feel it? 844 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,920 And there was a rock slide across from where I was. 845 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,840 I was on the-- 846 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,480 Yeah. 847 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,640 --by the lake and then across over in the other mountain, 848 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,720 it came down. 849 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,960 It was right in front of me. 850 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,360 I was like, oh. 851 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,520 HAMISH: Ooh, that's-- yeah, that's-- 852 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Yeah. 853 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,840 That's got to be a difficult thing to watch when you're-- 854 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,560 I mean, you had the tarp to protect you, but apart 855 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,160 from that-- 856 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,640 [laughter] 857 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840 I mean, you knew it was going to be wet, obviously. 858 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Like, you know that the weather's 859 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,320 going to play a factor. 860 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,280 But show of hands, for who was it more of a surprise than 861 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,760 even what you were expecting. 862 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,320 I didn't think it would be quite-- 863 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,480 I don't know, in the early days, it was quite humid some days, 864 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,120 humid and cold. 865 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,800 I know that sounds weird, but I've never experienced that. 866 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,440 If you're in-- 867 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,560 I think of humid, and I think like Darwin and the tropics. 868 00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:18,520 So wet air, but-- 869 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,320 Wet air but-- 870 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,160 HAMISH: --freezing. 871 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,760 --but freezing, yeah. 872 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,880 Yeah, I think it's the fact that just nothing will dry. 873 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Yeah. 874 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,240 And the idea of washing your clothes. 875 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,120 So I can only imagine, Tamika, you 876 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,640 were needing to wash more than most, 877 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 but it's like, I prefer to have it probably dirty 878 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040 and on than be washed and wet and not really 879 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,320 being able to use it. 880 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,960 So the dampness was-- 881 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,000 It's just still is wet two, three days later, most cases. 882 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,000 I think I washed my undies once because of that 883 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,760 and then put them in my sleeping bag, 884 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,760 and they dried out over, like, five days in my sleeping bag. 885 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,400 Five days? 886 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,400 SUZAN: Yeah. 887 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:49,920 The body heat is what it took. 888 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Yeah. 889 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:53,480 I think my sleeping bag was reserved for mosses and things 890 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,160 for tinder. 891 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,600 But yeah, it was full of tinder and stuff for keeping that dry. 892 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,040 So is that-- 893 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120 this is just me, you know, again, as a city boy. 894 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,000 Is that a-- like, is that a common trick to put 895 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,280 a lot of stuff in your sleeping bag to dry? 896 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,920 It's probably common for everybody. 897 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,080 I had a pillow-- a pillow of tinder that I just crammed full. 898 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,760 Every night, I made sure it was full, 899 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,800 and that was my pillow and my warmth, dried that for the fires 900 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,240 to come. 901 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,920 Yeah, so that's-- really, that's the only heating 902 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,640 you've got, I suppose, is just your body heat in the sleeping 903 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,360 bag. 904 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Krzysztof, did the weather ever get you down? 905 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Not really. 906 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,560 Like, I love the sound of rain on-- on your roof. 907 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:28,960 It actually helps me sleep. 908 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,800 I prefer some sort of gray noise or something. 909 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,600 And there was a few times towards the end where 910 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,360 I was really struggling to sleep, 911 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600 and I'd have like a patch of rain. 912 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,360 Like, I'd be like, thank God it's raining. 913 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,880 I'm going to actually get some sleep tonight. 914 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,240 Wow. 915 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,240 And then the rain would stop, and I'd wake up 916 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,840 and say, OK, here we are again. 917 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,280 Wow, it's interesting. 918 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,320 It comes back to that idea of just, 919 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,640 you know-- you know, you can turn what perhaps other people 920 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,000 are not loving, which is the rain, 921 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,520 into something that you're enjoying. 922 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Mm. 923 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,560 So something that I think might have been tougher 924 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,200 than, you know, perhaps a few people were expecting 925 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,040 was just the sheer loneliness of being alone, missing home. 926 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,440 It was a big deal for everyone. 927 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,120 But here is a little unseen moment from Tamika 928 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,000 that I think captures how everyone 929 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000 would have felt at some point. 930 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,720 Take a look. 931 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,680 I miss the girls. 932 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,640 I miss Bill. 933 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,840 I miss them. 934 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,720 I love them. 935 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,960 But at the moment, I'm just jealous of them. 936 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,360 Imagine sitting by the shore, having an evening fish, 937 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,840 drinking my piña colada. 938 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640 No, I don't drink piña coladas. 939 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:48,040 Drinking a Chai, oh my god, there you go. 940 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,920 Ooh. 941 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,080 Why would you cry over joy? 942 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,440 [chuckles] 943 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:58,800 Ah, the ritual. 944 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,800 OK, so I miss my kids. 945 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,200 [laughs] Bill doesn't drink Chai, but the girls do. 946 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Oh, so it's not the Chai I miss. 947 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,800 It's the connection you miss. 948 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,880 [chuckles] 949 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,480 Tamika, that was actually on day three. 950 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,920 Oh, no, God help me. 951 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,760 Which I think it's amazing that, 952 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,920 again, you were dealing with that, obviously, the whole time. 953 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,200 Just one little thing opens up to bigger realizations, 954 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,160 and you just think, ah, it's not the Chai. 955 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,920 And then all of a sudden you let your mind go deeper, 956 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,280 and it just bubbles out. 957 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,160 Well, it does for me, so. 958 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,120 How often during the day is your mind 959 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,520 being pulled back home? 960 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440 Is it always a constant specter that's there? 961 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,000 Hmm. 962 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,960 Food is. 963 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,520 Food is. 964 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Food. 965 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,720 TAMIKA: Yeah. 966 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,720 Food. 967 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,720 Food is-- food is the memory. 968 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,640 SUZAN: Food is overwhelming. 969 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,960 Pizza. 970 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,720 Cheesy sandwiches. 971 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,880 Vegemite. 972 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Yeah. 973 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,320 I think just those insignificant little exchanges that you have 974 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,960 through the day as well. 975 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,440 Like you mentioned, getting a Chai and the ritual of going 976 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,040 for a cup of coffee. 977 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,400 You're not necessarily sitting down to chat with someone, 978 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,800 but even a cashier saying to you, morning, 979 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,400 what can I get for you? 980 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,360 That simple human interaction that you get, you really-- 981 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,520 I really notice those, anyway. 982 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,720 Leanne, you know, missing home was a huge part of it for you. 983 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,080 Did you expect it going-- 984 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,640 I mean, I know everyone expects to be lonely, 985 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000 but were you expecting to feel it the way you did? 986 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,640 No. 987 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,160 HAMISH: No? 988 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,600 No. 989 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,280 I thought I'd go out. 990 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,960 Like, when you're with family all the time and you're a mom, 991 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,760 you kind of want a break because you never get a break. 992 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,720 There's always somebody wanting something from you. 993 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,600 And I thought that would be my thing for me, and I'd love it, 994 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320 and I wouldn't think about home so much, you know. 995 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,840 But it was my daughter, like, she was only three. 996 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,480 Like, what are you doing? 997 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Like, do you really need to be here, doing this right now? 998 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Worth pointing out, you did double the time on the show 999 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,800 that your partner Rob spent, so that is a huge win for you. 1000 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,600 Have you made that known to him? 1001 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,400 [laughter] 1002 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,240 Yeah, you know, we have a little laugh about it, 1003 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,720 of course. 1004 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,720 Do you say to him, you don't really know what it's 1005 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,720 like to be out of the house? 1006 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,040 [laughter] 1007 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,760 I was out there for twice as long as you. 1008 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,880 Yeah, exactly. 1009 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040 [laughs] 1010 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,280 I mean, there was actually almost 1011 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,520 a three week gap between the fifth person 1012 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,160 to go home and the sixth. 1013 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,760 So like, quite distinctly, two-- two halves. 1014 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,880 I mean, I'd say, Susan, what was it for you that mentally 1015 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,880 was able to get you there? 1016 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,080 Because you had zero protein-- 1017 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:40,920 That's right. 1018 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,560 --for the whole time. 1019 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:42,760 Yeah. 1020 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,400 I did a lot of foraging. 1021 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,720 I'm post-menopausal. 1022 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,400 I put on 15 kilos. 1023 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,920 I conserved energy. 1024 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,400 I minimized my energy expenditure wherever I could. 1025 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,080 That was my main strategy. 1026 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,920 You know, not having a fire, only having a fire once a week 1027 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,360 so I didn't have to collect the wood using my-- my-- 1028 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,760 So you only had a fire once a week? 1029 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,360 That's right, yeah. 1030 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,520 So my first shelter was my clothing and my sleeping bag, 1031 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,160 and that kept me warm. 1032 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,480 Going into hibernation, going to bed at 5 o'clock at night, 1033 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,840 getting up at 10 o'clock in the morning. 1034 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,520 HAMISH: Wow. 1035 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,640 Spending hours in my mind, in my sleeping bag, constructing 1036 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,160 a story, like not using my hands to entertain myself, 1037 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,280 but my mind to entertain myself. 1038 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,640 And then, you know, I felt John there. 1039 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,120 He was palpable. 1040 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,880 Like, he was thinking to me every hour of every day, 1041 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,480 and I could feel him. 1042 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,280 It was a lot of things. 1043 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880 The main thing is probably the psychology. 1044 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,360 I mean, it's a huge credit to you. 1045 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,680 Like, it's one thing to say, I'm going to hibernate 1046 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,080 my way through two months as a human being, 1047 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,040 a species not known for its hibernation, 1048 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,760 but it's another thing to be able to mentally-- 1049 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,760 to do it. 1050 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,320 Pretty phenomenal to watch. 1051 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,160 Thank you. 1052 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,960 Chace, you had also-- 1053 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,440 you had a huge pull. 1054 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,120 It was unknown to the show, and you made that clear. 1055 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,680 You were like, ah, you know, I haven't talked about this, 1056 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,160 but this is what's going on in my life, 1057 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,680 that your partner was pregnant. 1058 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,880 We actually do have a little look at your final hours 1059 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,040 here as you grapple with that in the wild. 1060 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,240 I got a bit of a confession. 1061 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,720 Right before I got on this show-- 1062 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,600 right before I got on the show, I 1063 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,800 found out I was going to be a father for the first time. 1064 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Day one, when I got out here, she was eight weeks. 1065 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,360 Like, 9 and 1/2 weeks tomorrow. 1066 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,360 And a couple days after, you can find out 1067 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,840 whether it's a boy or a girl. 1068 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,200 They're all big moments that I'm not there for. 1069 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,600 I'd be absolutely kidding myself if that wasn't wreaking havoc 1070 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,520 on my mind this whole time. 1071 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,040 Home is calling, and it's a hard call to ignore. 1072 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:59,360 That was-- it was a surprise to me, obviously, 1073 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,800 before going on the show, finding out right before we 1074 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,040 left. 1075 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,400 And things started changing, I suppose, 1076 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,760 internally before I really realized. 1077 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,760 And going out there, I thought to myself, 1078 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,920 I was really trying to enjoy myself to justify staying there 1079 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,040 because I knew how much-- 1080 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,440 how much pain was going on at home, being sick every day. 1081 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,120 So I was alone, but she was also alone. 1082 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,040 We have a picture of your child here. 1083 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,160 This is what was-- this is what was pulling you home. 1084 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,240 I understand that baby doesn't look like that anymore. 1085 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,160 How's everything? 1086 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,440 Happy, healthy? 1087 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,120 Fab. 1088 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,720 HAMISH: Great. 1089 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,400 Yeah. 1090 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,000 HAMISH: Great. 1091 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,960 Loving it? 1092 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,400 Yeah, absolutely loving it. 1093 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,040 Have there ever been moments where you look back 1094 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,920 and go, OK, now I would have done it differently, or zero-- 1095 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,280 zero regrets? 1096 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,560 No, I'm very happy with the way that all went. 1097 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,160 No regrets at all. 1098 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,840 I mean, I'll be honest, I've got two kids who are, like, 1099 00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,600 older. 1100 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,200 They're 10 and 6. 1101 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,560 And as a dad myself, I was watching, going, I don't know, 1102 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,120 mate. 1103 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,040 I don't know if you'll ever get two months off again. 1104 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,000 I'd stay for a bit longer. 1105 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,560 [laughter] 1106 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,920 This is not the kind that you can do when they're two. 1107 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,280 But I mean, very, very different circumstance for yourself 1108 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,200 as you're sitting there. 1109 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,520 And, you know, I'm glad. 1110 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,160 I'm glad that as you went home, it felt-- 1111 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,040 it felt like the right thing. 1112 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,640 Well done, mate. 1113 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,240 Beautiful. 1114 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,600 Not everyone would know this but, as well 1115 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,240 as being incredible survivalists, 1116 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,160 the people here tonight are also incredible musicians. 1117 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,560 Please enjoy. 1118 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:39,800 (RAPPING) I want to be in the land of Vegemite sandwiches 1119 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,360 I want to be in the land of Vegemite sandwiches 1120 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,840 Give me the land of Vegemite sandwiches 1121 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,760 And let me eat a Vegemite sandwich! 1122 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,000 [laughs] 1123 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,240 (SINGING) Happiness is a ripe eggplant 1124 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,920 Fresh basil and a good dog 1125 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,800 Great lyrics. 1126 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,000 [laughter] 1127 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,280 Really, I mean eggplant, and fresh basil, 1128 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,240 and a good dog, that's powerful stuff. 1129 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,840 Like, that's an album. 1130 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,240 That was an old mantra from when I lived alone and built 1131 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,800 my house and things were pretty tough. 1132 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,880 So it was just that framing of, you know-- 1133 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,680 HAMISH: Love it. - Yeah. 1134 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,360 Love it. 1135 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,440 Did anyone have trouble going back then into the real world? 1136 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,600 Was there a fast-- 1137 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,280 was it too much too soon for anyone? 1138 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,760 Or was it-- 1139 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,320 My head was definitely still there for weeks later, 1140 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,520 waking up in the middle of the night 1141 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,120 and trying to justify that you're not 1142 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,480 in under your shelter. 1143 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,160 And you've got your wife laying next to you, 1144 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,000 and you're just like, Rick, you're not there anymore. 1145 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,040 But that was weeks and weeks. 1146 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,680 Wow. 1147 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,280 RICK: Yeah. 1148 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,280 Yeah, wow. 1149 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,440 Getting into the airport-- 1150 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Getting home strange? 1151 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,120 Yeah, all the people around me, ooph, 1152 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,760 there was a bit of overload. 1153 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,160 It must have been strange just to look at, like, a candy bar 1154 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,280 and go, I can't believe you're right there, like, I can-- 1155 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,840 I can just have you. 1156 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,480 Or clicking on an electric jug. 1157 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,080 [pop] 1158 00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:58,600 Oh, yeah. 1159 00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,120 Yeah. 1160 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,480 Mm-hmm. 1161 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,120 It seems that that's one of the rewards of going 1162 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,960 on the show, is to have everything taken away, 1163 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,520 that it just-- when it comes back, 1164 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,960 it feels like an amazing thing. 1165 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,080 Or to realize that don't need that stuff as well-- 1166 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,640 Yeah, right. 1167 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,280 --and that you might choose to live even more simply. 1168 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,960 Is there something like that that happened for you, Tamika? 1169 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,640 Like-- 1170 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,920 For sure, yeah. 1171 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,120 So I'm not even living in a home anymore. 1172 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,800 I'm just in my truck. 1173 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,560 And I'm just realizing I need so much less than what I thought 1174 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,320 I did to be happy. 1175 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,440 So, yeah. 1176 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,440 Chace, some solid nods from you? 1177 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,800 Yeah, trying to move out of the city. 1178 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,560 Yeah, get downsize a lot of that sort of life, 1179 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,680 you know, to something a bit more simpler, and for the kids 1180 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,240 as well. 1181 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,680 Totally. 1182 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,720 Well, before we completely put a full stop on it, 1183 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,320 there is something that-- 1184 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,200 that I know everyone was fascinated by. 1185 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,160 The elephant in the room or should 1186 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,880 I say the deer in the room, or should I 1187 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,480 say the lack of deer in the room. 1188 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120 I mean, in New Zealand, they're regarded as an invasive species, 1189 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,760 but in real life, they were an evasive species because they 1190 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,840 were extremely hard to find. 1191 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Is this-- 1192 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,800 If you can see the monitors, is this about what you are hoping? 1193 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,080 Oh, we wish. 1194 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:06,840 We wish. 1195 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,800 Tssst, break away. 1196 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,640 That happened. 1197 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,320 That happened-- 1198 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,160 That happened? 1199 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,840 --right at the start. 1200 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,760 Like, I had a deer trip over my guy rope of my first shelter. 1201 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,040 You saw the deer? 1202 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,680 On first night, I could hear it coming. 1203 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,360 I was in my sleeping bag, my bow and arrow is right there. 1204 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,680 But in New Zealand, laws are you can't use a projectile weapon 1205 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,800 at night time. 1206 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,160 So I couldn't even get out there. 1207 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,400 And then the third night, it happened again. 1208 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,280 And then after that, they were onto-- 1209 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,560 there's a Homo sapien here. 1210 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:31,680 Let's get out of here. 1211 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,200 Let's disappear up into the hills. 1212 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,800 And they were gone. 1213 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,040 You could hear them reading the hunting rules, laughing. 1214 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,760 SUZAN: They were gone. 1215 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,040 [laughter] 1216 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,520 I don't want to rub it in, but there were so many neelys. 1217 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,960 But there was-- 1218 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,840 That's why they call it hunting and not catching. 1219 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:46,920 That's it. 1220 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480 It was a lot, a lot of stalking. 1221 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,840 I mean, there were-- there were a lot of close calls, 1222 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,520 but there was an actual. 1223 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,240 Like, Jason, you saw the deer, and you were able to call it, 1224 00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,600 and it called back. 1225 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,480 For that'll bring something, but it hasn't. 1226 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,800 And then-- 1227 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,320 HAMISH: It looks like a deer track to me. 1228 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,320 --I saw this trout in the water, and I was like, oh, 1229 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,880 look at that, he's right there. 1230 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,320 [mimics barking] 1231 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,320 [growling] 1232 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,920 Can you give us the call? 1233 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,920 [laughter] 1234 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,840 Come on. 1235 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,520 We want to hear it again. 1236 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,840 It was really-- 1237 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,440 [mimics barking] It just sounds like a bark. 1238 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,360 It's-- yeah, it's a weird noise. 1239 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,320 I just kind of heard, you know, gravel movement, 1240 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,640 and he was on the beach. 1241 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,400 And I think he'd seen me before. 1242 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,680 I saw him, and he kind of took off back up into the-- 1243 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,920 into the thick of it. 1244 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,120 And, yeah, as he was running away, he-- 1245 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,480 he sort of made that noise and-- 1246 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,800 It called back as it was running away? 1247 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,360 He did it when he was going away. 1248 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,480 And then that's why I did it, and then he called back. 1249 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,480 So it was like a see you later. 1250 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,480 So I was-- yeah, kind of, yea. 1251 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,720 So, yeah, it was frustrating. 1252 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920 But yeah, that was the only time I saw him or heard him. 1253 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,160 One of the things that-- 1254 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,520 I mean, this might be true for everyone, 1255 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,680 but certainly for the footage that 1256 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,120 made the show, like the unluckiness, 1257 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,360 the close calls that you had, it was breaking my heart 1258 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,920 watching it. 1259 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,200 The bounce of the lid of the mousetrap, I mean, brutal. 1260 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,080 Hold on. 1261 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,840 It's just a mouse. 1262 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,240 Trigger, trigger, trigger. 1263 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,600 Oh, that is just freaking awful. 1264 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,240 [sighs] 1265 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,680 I probably could have made the trap better, 1266 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,600 could have probably made a locking mechanism or something 1267 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,040 like that. 1268 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,280 A mouse can probably squeeze through a 5-mil gap. 1269 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,760 Like, the size of their skull, that's 1270 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,960 what they can scroll through. 1271 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,560 So it's a little bit angled because I 1272 00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:39,480 hope the weight of the lid will stop it. 1273 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,120 But, you know-- 1274 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,800 Mate, I'm sure with getting it out, too, it could be very 1275 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,960 tricky if it was in there and trying to get it out without-- 1276 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,560 I wouldn't. 1277 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:45,760 I wouldn't. 1278 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,560 Probably just checking it till it died. 1279 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:47,080 Yeah. 1280 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:48,640 Yeah. 1281 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,040 A bit more-- that would be a bit more brutal, but yeah. 1282 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,840 Yeah, but that was the plan, right? 1283 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,360 And if you win, you get a mouse, 1284 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,880 which is a very small prize. 1285 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,760 So totally understand. 1286 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,520 Do you want to talk about the eels? 1287 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,520 Twice as many eels hooked than actual fish. 1288 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,320 Uh, I think it's a big eel. 1289 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,240 Silly bugger, it's a shame we can't eat them. 1290 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,280 A lot of food right there. 1291 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,200 HAMISH: I mean, first caught, 13, eels released, 27. 1292 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,200 It must have been so frustrating. 1293 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,120 Krzysztof, I mean, I think in the series, 1294 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,720 you had a couple in a row. 1295 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,120 Is it hard to remain positive when that keeps happening? 1296 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,640 I got a little bit frustrated, but catching something 1297 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,360 is better than not catching anything at all. 1298 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,960 And it's something that changes the day up a little bit, so. 1299 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,400 The excitement to meet an eel for a while, it helps you-- 1300 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,280 And if-- if I get my hook back at the end of it, even better. 1301 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,080 let's go back to the episode that we've all just seen, 1302 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,240 the finale. 1303 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,840 As soon as Suzan had tapped, Erin, your partner, 1304 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,920 was contacted, but the medical team pulled you out immediately. 1305 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,960 They couldn't wait for Erin to arrive before extracting you. 1306 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,360 Krzysztof, was she disappointed not to be able to get there? 1307 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,880 Because I understand she was in the middle of something 1308 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,680 also important because she has her own life. 1309 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,480 Yeah, she was incredibly disappointed 1310 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,160 that she couldn't be there. 1311 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,800 But after I found out where she was, if she would have rocked 1312 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,240 up, I would have been a little bit pissed off. 1313 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,280 What was she-- what was she doing? 1314 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,120 So she's studying Astra Space. 1315 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,880 And at the time, she was doing a planning project for a return 1316 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,560 sample mission to Mars. 1317 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,800 So not only was it, like, a world first 1318 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,120 that there wasn't a loved one there, 1319 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,760 could have almost been a world first 1320 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,840 that when the loved one was contacted, they went, I'm busy. 1321 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,120 [laughter] 1322 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,280 Tell him to stay another week. 1323 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,120 HAMISH: Yeah. 1324 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,680 Yeah, tell him congrats. 1325 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,080 I'll catch up with him when I'm-- when I'm done work. 1326 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,200 Wow, OK, that's pretty awesome. 1327 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,360 Krzysztof, we saw the moment that-- 1328 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,840 that you guys were reunited. 1329 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,480 Here and stuff, so-- what the [bleep]? 1330 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:49,080 [laughs] Aw. 1331 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:51,240 And I apologize for the profanity. 1332 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,480 HAMISH: No, I thought it was-- that was a time that was exactly 1333 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,920 what you should say when suddenly your girlfriend sitting 1334 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,240 next to you. 1335 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,920 But what we didn't see was that, Krzysztof, 1336 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,480 you had the opportunity to then take Erin back to where you'd 1337 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,800 been living for those 64 days. 1338 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,280 And that's also pretty special. 1339 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,360 That's never happened before on any of the "Alones," 1340 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,280 where you actually can go back, fed, 1341 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,120 slightly recovered and see it with-- with fresh eyes, 1342 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,080 not the eyes of someone that's in shock. 1343 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,240 So let's take a little look. 1344 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,440 [nature music] 1345 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,680 ERIN: Oh, the water is so clear. 1346 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,320 KRZYSZTOF: Yeah. 1347 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,160 Yeah, it is. 1348 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,720 This is gorgeous, but also terrifying. 1349 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,840 I couldn't-- [laughs] 1350 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,520 Thank you, baby. 1351 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,600 Welcome to my land. 1352 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,760 Oh my gosh. 1353 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,200 This is my spinning wheel. 1354 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,200 Oh my gosh! 1355 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,520 [chuckles] 1356 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,600 And I'd sort of sit over here all the time. 1357 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,640 Yeah. 1358 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,200 And then it was just, literally, 1359 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,400 you just tie a little piece on, and then as you spin, 1360 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,960 this thing would tighten and pull tight. 1361 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,760 That is so cool. 1362 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,240 Camp's up through here. 1363 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,800 This is so beautiful. 1364 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,760 KRZYSZTOF: I've built this little sculpture. 1365 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,440 This is so cool! 1366 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,320 This one's me, and this one's you. 1367 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,400 [laughs] I love it. 1368 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,560 And this-- oh my god, Fort Kick Ass. 1369 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,080 Come inside Fort Kick Ass. 1370 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,600 Yes. 1371 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,680 This is the bed I built. Yeah, it's-- 1372 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,480 This is pretty good. 1373 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,920 Yeah, it's solid. 1374 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:30,120 This was the stuff that I was using to make rope. 1375 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,360 Wow. 1376 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,000 Pull on it. 1377 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,920 Gee, that is awesome. 1378 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,680 So, yeah, babe, that's my home sweet home for the last 64 days. 1379 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,920 What do you think? 1380 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,160 This is amazing, baby. 1381 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:44,960 Well done. 1382 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,920 I'm so proud of you. 1383 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,280 Aw, it feels-- 1384 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:50,960 It does feel like-- 1385 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,400 [applause] 1386 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,160 Oh, congratulations. 1387 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,800 I am interested to know, what did Erin think of the statue 1388 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,000 that you built of her? 1389 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,680 And what was the thinking behind that? 1390 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,840 So I was having a day where I was feeling a little bit lonely 1391 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,760 and homesick, and I thought I'm going to need something to just, 1392 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,440 you know, similar to the-- your rocks as well. 1393 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,560 I decided to build this sculpture, and it was-- 1394 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,480 this one's going to be Erin, this one's going to be me. 1395 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,960 And I'll put Erin up a little bit higher because I see her 1396 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:20,960 as my queen. 1397 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,760 She's just absolutely amazing. 1398 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,640 I look up to her. 1399 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,160 She is my world. 1400 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,640 And even though we're not together at the moment, 1401 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,520 I know that we will be soon. 1402 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,520 Well, congratulations again, mate, for making it all the way. 1403 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,640 As a little bit of a treat, the show has organized something. 1404 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,360 Now, we won't tell customs we did this because you're not 1405 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,440 really meant to bring wood back from overseas. 1406 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,840 But one second. 1407 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:50,960 We have got-- you've got the Fort-- 1408 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,920 you've got your Fort Kick Ass sign. 1409 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,600 It's awesome. 1410 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,160 Here you go. 1411 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:55,920 That is-- 1412 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:56,600 HAMISH: That is-- 1413 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,200 CONTESTANT: Yay. 1414 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,520 [applause] 1415 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,920 I love-- I mean, not too many other shows where it's not 1416 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,720 a giant check. 1417 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,680 It's a piece of wood. 1418 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,600 [laughter] 1419 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,760 Like, piece of wood. 1420 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,800 Oh, it's better than a giant check. 1421 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,000 Good stuff. 1422 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,000 Thanks. 1423 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,320 Total pleasure. 1424 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,480 How awesome. 1425 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,480 Just kidding. 1426 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,720 Obviously, customs is watching. 1427 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,040 We fumigated it, et cetera, et cetera. 1428 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,240 But well done. 1429 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,160 Well done, mate. 1430 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,520 And well done to everyone. 1431 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,160 Like, thank you. 1432 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,400 On behalf of the viewers, I'm sure people sitting at home 1433 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,200 and watching this online, and, you know, 1434 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,120 I get to be their voice as someone that 1435 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,360 loved watching the series. 1436 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,000 Thanks to everyone for the way you put 1437 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,360 yourselves out there, how honest it was, 1438 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,480 the way you conducted yourself. 1439 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,480 It was awesome. 1440 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,880 Thank you for being part of it. 1441 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,080 That is the end of "Alone Australia Season 2-- 1442 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:44,080 The Reunion." 1443 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:45,640 It has been a massive pleasure. 1444 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,520 Have a great one. 1445 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,240 Thanks, everybody. 1446 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,600 [theme music]