1 00:00:00,655 --> 00:00:02,588 [stately orchestral music] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:02,623 --> 00:00:04,694 - So I'm India Hicks, 4 00:00:04,728 --> 00:00:08,042 and I happen to be Prince Charles' goddaughter. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:08,077 --> 00:00:09,285 ♪ 7 00:00:09,319 --> 00:00:10,665 - I am Mervyn Wycherley. 8 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:12,978 I was head chef to the Prince of Wales 9 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:14,152 and Lady Diana Spencer. 10 00:00:14,186 --> 00:00:16,050 [camera shutters clicking] 11 00:00:16,085 --> 00:00:18,052 - Squadron Leader Graham Laurie. 12 00:00:18,087 --> 00:00:22,056 I've flown him 760-odd times. 13 00:00:22,091 --> 00:00:23,402 - Petronella Wyatt. 14 00:00:23,437 --> 00:00:26,267 I've known Camilla, the Queen Consort, 15 00:00:26,302 --> 00:00:28,304 since I was 17. 16 00:00:28,338 --> 00:00:29,822 [camera shutter clicking] 17 00:00:29,857 --> 00:00:33,516 - I've been a royal journalist for 30 years. 18 00:00:33,550 --> 00:00:35,552 - I'm Johnny Stonborough, 19 00:00:35,587 --> 00:00:39,349 and I was at school with the king. 20 00:00:39,384 --> 00:00:41,420 The other boys had decided, quotes, 21 00:00:41,455 --> 00:00:44,665 "That they were going to 'Get Prince Charles.'" 22 00:00:44,699 --> 00:00:46,563 He was the boy who walked alone. 23 00:00:46,598 --> 00:00:48,600 - We'd had a friendship and a relationship. 24 00:00:48,634 --> 00:00:50,326 They called me the blonde. 25 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,156 - No other of his girlfriends 26 00:00:53,191 --> 00:00:55,745 have ever really talked to the press, 27 00:00:55,779 --> 00:00:58,541 and that's what turned me into the kiss-and-tell 28 00:00:58,575 --> 00:00:59,921 and the blabber girl. 29 00:00:59,956 --> 00:01:01,440 - I actually had thought I was going... 30 00:01:01,475 --> 00:01:03,028 [laughing] As his girlfriend for the weekend, 31 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,373 but when I got there, 32 00:01:04,409 --> 00:01:06,031 Camilla Parker Bowles was there. 33 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,550 [crowd shouting] 34 00:01:07,584 --> 00:01:09,724 - I'm speaking now about all this 35 00:01:09,759 --> 00:01:12,451 because I've said nothing for 40 years, 36 00:01:12,486 --> 00:01:16,076 and I've just listened so often to lies. 37 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:18,078 And it's quite frustrating. 38 00:01:18,112 --> 00:01:22,082 - Both princes begged their father to not marry Camilla. 39 00:01:22,116 --> 00:01:24,739 - This is the woman that Diana would've been 40 00:01:24,774 --> 00:01:26,776 crying her eyes out about 41 00:01:26,810 --> 00:01:29,503 who called her "the Rottweiler." 42 00:01:29,537 --> 00:01:33,783 - They're a spectacularly dysfunctional family. 43 00:01:33,817 --> 00:01:39,064 - Right now we're seeing anotherdisastrous scandal 44 00:01:39,098 --> 00:01:40,410 swirling around. 45 00:01:40,445 --> 00:01:42,274 - There are even reports he did say, 46 00:01:42,309 --> 00:01:43,758 "I wish you boys would stop 47 00:01:43,793 --> 00:01:46,140 making my final years miserable." 48 00:01:46,175 --> 00:01:49,143 [tense music] 49 00:01:49,178 --> 00:01:52,560 ♪ 50 00:01:56,185 --> 00:01:59,360 [birds chirping] 51 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,158 - It was the end-of-season polo dance 52 00:02:04,193 --> 00:02:07,437 for Cirencester Polo Club. 53 00:02:07,472 --> 00:02:10,371 The dance floor was in the middle like this, 54 00:02:10,406 --> 00:02:12,856 and then the tables were round. 55 00:02:12,891 --> 00:02:14,582 [soft piano music] 56 00:02:14,617 --> 00:02:19,139 Camilla and Andrew's table was at the front. 57 00:02:19,173 --> 00:02:23,384 ♪ 58 00:02:23,419 --> 00:02:26,284 I did notice when I was dancing 59 00:02:26,318 --> 00:02:29,494 that Prince Charles was, a lot of the time, 60 00:02:29,528 --> 00:02:31,081 dancing with Camilla. 61 00:02:31,116 --> 00:02:33,463 ♪ 62 00:02:33,498 --> 00:02:35,465 A lot of people were slightly surprised 63 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:38,296 to see how often they were on the dance floor 64 00:02:38,329 --> 00:02:41,161 and that Andrew was just sort of sitting at the table. 65 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:45,268 ♪ 66 00:02:45,303 --> 00:02:48,513 - Yes, people did spot Charles and Camilla 67 00:02:48,547 --> 00:02:52,827 having a fun sort of cuddle, as it were. 68 00:02:52,862 --> 00:02:54,208 ♪ 69 00:02:54,243 --> 00:02:55,727 At that time, 70 00:02:55,761 --> 00:02:58,488 he'd just started dating Diana Spencer, 71 00:02:58,523 --> 00:03:01,698 so I doubt he would have thought 72 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:06,013 he was doing anything terribly wrong if he... 73 00:03:06,047 --> 00:03:08,636 kissed Camilla at a party. 74 00:03:19,406 --> 00:03:23,168 [energetic rock music] 75 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:26,206 [cheering] 76 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,621 ♪ 77 00:03:27,655 --> 00:03:29,347 - Naval Lieutenant Prince Charles 78 00:03:29,381 --> 00:03:33,074 is taking to the air again, this time in a helicopter. 79 00:03:33,109 --> 00:03:37,976 He's already qualified as a jet pilot with the RAF. 80 00:03:38,010 --> 00:03:39,874 - Being the Prince of Wales and single, 81 00:03:39,909 --> 00:03:42,670 he had this great reputation of being very eligible 82 00:03:42,704 --> 00:03:44,396 and quite rightly so. 83 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:48,158 - The prince has clocked up almost 1,000 flying hours 84 00:03:48,192 --> 00:03:49,505 in a variety of aircraft. 85 00:03:49,539 --> 00:03:51,576 - He was a man of action. 86 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:55,165 You know, he flew well, he played polo well. 87 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,030 Prince Philip was the hard man. 88 00:03:58,065 --> 00:04:01,758 Prince Charles was much more sensitive and softer, 89 00:04:01,793 --> 00:04:04,554 but still did them equally as well. 90 00:04:04,589 --> 00:04:06,660 [waves crashing] 91 00:04:06,694 --> 00:04:09,939 - He was handsome, charming, the Prince of Wales. 92 00:04:09,973 --> 00:04:11,630 I think he had a lot of girlfriends. 93 00:04:11,665 --> 00:04:13,425 He would tell me about women 94 00:04:13,460 --> 00:04:15,116 that would come rushing up to him, 95 00:04:15,151 --> 00:04:17,567 like when he was in Australia, and would kiss him. 96 00:04:18,534 --> 00:04:20,500 [film projector whirring] 97 00:04:20,536 --> 00:04:23,677 [birds chirping] 98 00:04:23,711 --> 00:04:25,817 - Has anyone seen the black dog at all? 99 00:04:25,851 --> 00:04:27,612 - He was playing catch with an apple. 100 00:04:27,646 --> 00:04:29,545 - Ugh. 101 00:04:29,579 --> 00:04:33,203 She's just obsessed with apples. 102 00:04:40,418 --> 00:04:42,143 - Well played, sir! [crowd cheering] 103 00:04:42,178 --> 00:04:44,698 - I was given the job at the Guards Polo Club 104 00:04:44,732 --> 00:04:47,010 as assistant manager. 105 00:04:47,045 --> 00:04:50,462 And that's when Charles would come up from Windsor Castle 106 00:04:50,497 --> 00:04:51,739 and come and play. 107 00:04:51,774 --> 00:04:53,396 [indistinct PA commentary] 108 00:04:53,431 --> 00:04:56,054 He was about to become 30, 109 00:04:56,088 --> 00:04:59,540 and I was going through an early divorce 110 00:04:59,575 --> 00:05:02,647 at a very young age, at 23. 111 00:05:02,681 --> 00:05:04,269 ♪ 112 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:07,030 And so I just think we just sort of 113 00:05:07,065 --> 00:05:09,239 gravitated towards each other. 114 00:05:09,274 --> 00:05:11,276 ♪ 115 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:12,588 Here are some photos 116 00:05:12,622 --> 00:05:15,245 of when I was introduced to Prince Charles. 117 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,664 And I do actually feel there was an instant attraction. 118 00:05:19,698 --> 00:05:21,942 I might be imagining it, but looking at it, 119 00:05:21,976 --> 00:05:24,841 it does feel as if there's a little bit of something there. 120 00:05:24,876 --> 00:05:26,774 So that was our first introduction. 121 00:05:26,809 --> 00:05:30,813 And it was a definite turning point in my life. 122 00:05:30,847 --> 00:05:33,402 ♪ 123 00:05:33,436 --> 00:05:35,473 What I thought about Prince Charles, 124 00:05:35,507 --> 00:05:36,991 or King Charles, 125 00:05:37,026 --> 00:05:40,892 is that he looked quite a lonely figure. 126 00:05:40,926 --> 00:05:43,998 So I thought that I could introduce him 127 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:48,106 into the social life of the Guards Polo Club. 128 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:50,867 So I suggested one day that he came back 129 00:05:50,902 --> 00:05:56,045 and had drinks in the clubhouse after the polo 130 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:58,392 and meet some of the players. 131 00:05:58,427 --> 00:06:01,291 So he said, "OK, I'll do that." 132 00:06:01,326 --> 00:06:02,983 [upbeat music] 133 00:06:03,017 --> 00:06:07,090 One of my bosses had thought it would be quite quirky 134 00:06:07,125 --> 00:06:11,474 to have Pimm's in a plastic container. 135 00:06:11,509 --> 00:06:13,752 And so I was in the room, 136 00:06:13,787 --> 00:06:15,858 but didn't sort of mix with him. 137 00:06:15,892 --> 00:06:18,619 And then I saw that he was about to go, 138 00:06:18,654 --> 00:06:20,483 so I rushed around the back and said, 139 00:06:20,518 --> 00:06:21,864 "And how did that go?" 140 00:06:21,898 --> 00:06:23,279 [upbeat orchestral music] 141 00:06:23,313 --> 00:06:25,039 And it was fascinating, actually. 142 00:06:25,074 --> 00:06:28,008 And he drew himself up, and he looked at me and said, 143 00:06:28,042 --> 00:06:31,321 "I'm not used to drinking out of a container." 144 00:06:31,356 --> 00:06:32,875 And I went, "Oh, my God!" 145 00:06:32,909 --> 00:06:36,223 And that was virtually almost the end 146 00:06:36,257 --> 00:06:38,950 of him coming in to have drinks. 147 00:06:38,984 --> 00:06:40,227 [laughs] 148 00:06:40,261 --> 00:06:44,404 ♪ 149 00:06:44,438 --> 00:06:48,994 I was also given a cottage up at Windsor Castle 150 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:53,343 close to the polo club, so I was very much on tap. 151 00:06:53,378 --> 00:06:54,724 ♪ 152 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:56,070 We were just very comfy. 153 00:06:56,105 --> 00:06:59,349 We could talk about anything. 154 00:06:59,384 --> 00:07:02,076 He's a very charismatic person. 155 00:07:02,111 --> 00:07:04,251 He's very cheeky. 156 00:07:04,285 --> 00:07:09,049 And flirtatious, I think is the word, you know. 157 00:07:09,083 --> 00:07:14,261 I walked in wearing a shirt with 11 cockerels, 158 00:07:14,295 --> 00:07:17,264 you know, those sort of farmer sweatshirts. 159 00:07:17,298 --> 00:07:20,370 And he didn't realize that Andrew, 160 00:07:20,405 --> 00:07:23,857 my husband at the time, was behind. 161 00:07:23,891 --> 00:07:27,101 And he--as I walked through the door, he said, 162 00:07:27,136 --> 00:07:30,967 "Good God, is that how many cocks you've had?" 163 00:07:31,002 --> 00:07:33,453 [laughs] You can't put that, cockerels. 164 00:07:33,487 --> 00:07:38,216 And then he looked up, and he saw Andrew's face. 165 00:07:38,250 --> 00:07:42,082 And he knew that he-- yes. 166 00:07:42,116 --> 00:07:45,257 Um, but it was just funny, ha, ha. 167 00:07:45,292 --> 00:07:48,088 ♪ 168 00:07:48,122 --> 00:07:50,918 Prince Charles had said he very much 169 00:07:50,953 --> 00:07:54,888 liked my company at Windsor Castle. 170 00:07:54,922 --> 00:07:58,132 And then I did go and have dinner. 171 00:07:58,167 --> 00:08:00,445 I think that's about all I'm going to say. 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,518 [laughs] And you know. 173 00:08:04,553 --> 00:08:05,519 Yeah. 174 00:08:05,554 --> 00:08:08,764 ♪ 175 00:08:10,041 --> 00:08:13,009 [upbeat funky music] 176 00:08:13,044 --> 00:08:16,081 ♪ 177 00:08:16,116 --> 00:08:18,981 - He had lots and lots of girlfriends. 178 00:08:19,015 --> 00:08:20,569 ♪ 179 00:08:20,603 --> 00:08:22,467 I don't think any of them really came close 180 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:25,988 to the one girlfriend he had met years before. 181 00:08:26,022 --> 00:08:28,749 That was Camilla Parker Bowles. 182 00:08:28,784 --> 00:08:30,268 ♪ 183 00:08:30,302 --> 00:08:31,925 My name is Robert Jobson. 184 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:34,272 I've been a royal journalist for 30 years. 185 00:08:34,306 --> 00:08:37,517 I've met and covered the king's story for all that time. 186 00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:39,277 I've interviewed him a number of times. 187 00:08:39,311 --> 00:08:41,003 And I've been invited down to Highgrove, 188 00:08:41,037 --> 00:08:44,075 to his garden, and it's a wonderful garden. 189 00:08:44,109 --> 00:08:47,078 [stately orchestral music] 190 00:08:47,112 --> 00:08:51,531 ♪ 191 00:08:51,565 --> 00:08:54,603 Charles met Camilla-- she was older than him. 192 00:08:54,637 --> 00:08:57,882 It was when he was at university. 193 00:08:57,915 --> 00:08:59,573 ♪ 194 00:08:59,608 --> 00:09:04,682 And Charles was single, completely smitten by Camilla. 195 00:09:04,716 --> 00:09:05,855 ♪ 196 00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:08,133 - My name is Petronella Wyatt, 197 00:09:08,168 --> 00:09:11,551 and I have known Camilla, the Queen Consort, 198 00:09:11,585 --> 00:09:13,760 since I was 17. 199 00:09:13,794 --> 00:09:16,659 [soft dramatic music] 200 00:09:16,694 --> 00:09:19,351 The nature of that relationship 201 00:09:19,386 --> 00:09:24,425 was a sort of passion that sprang up on Charles' side. 202 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:27,981 Camilla reminded Charles of the queen mother. 203 00:09:28,015 --> 00:09:30,880 He adored the queen mother. 204 00:09:31,847 --> 00:09:36,645 I think the queen wasn't demonstrative 205 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,474 because of her personality. 206 00:09:38,508 --> 00:09:40,269 ♪ 207 00:09:40,303 --> 00:09:41,719 His parents were away such a lot 208 00:09:41,753 --> 00:09:45,930 because the queen became queen very young 209 00:09:45,964 --> 00:09:47,276 and as a result, 210 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:52,281 she missed Charles' childhood. 211 00:09:52,315 --> 00:09:56,319 And there's that story he often told about his mother 212 00:09:56,354 --> 00:09:58,874 coming back from a very, very long tour. 213 00:09:58,908 --> 00:10:03,361 And he rushes onto the royal yacht to greet her, 214 00:10:03,395 --> 00:10:04,604 hoping for a hug. 215 00:10:04,638 --> 00:10:07,503 And she just holds out her hand to be shaken. 216 00:10:07,537 --> 00:10:09,609 ♪ 217 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:13,164 I think Camilla was a very cozy person, 218 00:10:13,198 --> 00:10:16,236 and so was the queen mother. 219 00:10:16,270 --> 00:10:21,482 He felt more comfortable with slightly older people. 220 00:10:21,517 --> 00:10:23,105 ♪ 221 00:10:23,139 --> 00:10:25,590 When a young man has his own emotional problems, 222 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:28,006 he generally tends to go for somebody 223 00:10:28,041 --> 00:10:30,802 who's slightly more mature. 224 00:10:30,837 --> 00:10:34,323 Camilla was fond of Charles. 225 00:10:34,357 --> 00:10:36,118 I don't even know how far it went. 226 00:10:36,152 --> 00:10:38,568 Nobody really knows how far it went. 227 00:10:38,603 --> 00:10:40,536 But I think she found him a bit immature, 228 00:10:40,570 --> 00:10:44,851 and I think she wasn't in love with him then. 229 00:10:44,885 --> 00:10:48,820 [flowing piano music] 230 00:10:48,855 --> 00:10:50,684 [ship's horn blows] 231 00:10:50,719 --> 00:10:52,134 ♪ 232 00:10:52,168 --> 00:10:53,790 - Putting to sea on a six-month tour 233 00:10:53,825 --> 00:10:56,448 of the West Indies, Sub-Lieutenant Prince Charles 234 00:10:56,483 --> 00:11:00,729 reports to his new ship, HMS "Minerva." 235 00:11:00,763 --> 00:11:04,077 - The next stage of his career was with the Royal Navy. 236 00:11:04,111 --> 00:11:08,219 And he was being posted on a tour out in the Caribbean. 237 00:11:08,253 --> 00:11:10,670 Charles and Camilla dated for a few months, 238 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:13,431 and certainly he was in love with her 239 00:11:13,465 --> 00:11:16,503 and even took her on a tour of the ship before he departed. 240 00:11:16,537 --> 00:11:19,023 ♪ 241 00:11:19,057 --> 00:11:20,645 He was in the West Indies, I think, 242 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,889 when he heard that she was getting married 243 00:11:22,923 --> 00:11:24,200 to Andrew Parker Bowles, 244 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:27,065 so he was pretty devastated at that. 245 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:29,274 ♪ 246 00:11:29,309 --> 00:11:31,000 And he was definitely brokenhearted. 247 00:11:31,035 --> 00:11:32,899 There's no doubt about that. 248 00:11:32,933 --> 00:11:38,490 ♪ 249 00:11:42,425 --> 00:11:45,463 [flowing orchestral music] 250 00:11:45,497 --> 00:11:47,396 - Charles obviously had a great relationship 251 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:49,260 with Earl Mountbatten. 252 00:11:49,294 --> 00:11:51,193 He was his great uncle, 253 00:11:51,227 --> 00:11:53,885 but they all called him Uncle Dickie. 254 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,335 He was there to guide him 255 00:11:55,369 --> 00:11:58,372 in most areas of his young life. 256 00:11:58,407 --> 00:12:00,374 And there was a warmth between them 257 00:12:00,409 --> 00:12:01,790 that he didn't actually experience 258 00:12:01,824 --> 00:12:03,861 with the queen and Prince Philip. 259 00:12:03,895 --> 00:12:05,483 ♪ 260 00:12:05,517 --> 00:12:07,036 Well, I think Mountbatten said basically 261 00:12:07,071 --> 00:12:08,728 that after Camilla, 262 00:12:08,762 --> 00:12:10,868 that Charles should sow his wild oats, 263 00:12:10,902 --> 00:12:12,870 go out with as many girls as possible, 264 00:12:12,904 --> 00:12:14,250 and just enjoy himself, 265 00:12:14,285 --> 00:12:15,769 and don't even consider marriage 266 00:12:15,804 --> 00:12:18,220 until he was looking towards 30. 267 00:12:18,254 --> 00:12:21,741 ♪ 268 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:25,123 - You're the most eligible bachelor in the world. 269 00:12:25,158 --> 00:12:27,401 You're the Prince of Wales. 270 00:12:27,436 --> 00:12:30,094 Women threw themselves at him. 271 00:12:30,128 --> 00:12:34,374 ♪ 272 00:12:38,688 --> 00:12:40,483 - I've got a letter that Prince Charles wrote to me 273 00:12:40,518 --> 00:12:43,590 in 1975 when he was on HMS "Hermes." 274 00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:45,143 And he just writes, "My dear Janet, 275 00:12:45,178 --> 00:12:46,593 "what a glorious evening that was yesterday. 276 00:12:46,627 --> 00:12:48,768 "Thank you a thousand times for making it 277 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:50,770 "such a fun and particularly special evening. 278 00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,944 "I loved every minute of my night out in Montreal 279 00:12:52,979 --> 00:12:56,154 with the most exquisite Welsh girl I've ever met." 280 00:12:56,189 --> 00:12:58,122 [chuckles] I laughed. 281 00:12:58,156 --> 00:13:00,227 I said, "But Charles, how many Welsh girls have you dated?" 282 00:13:00,262 --> 00:13:01,470 So he laughed. 283 00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:02,747 It was very flattering, of course. 284 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:03,921 It was lovely. 285 00:13:03,955 --> 00:13:05,612 I haven't read them for about 25 years, 286 00:13:05,646 --> 00:13:07,717 and actually, it shows you the essence of who he is. 287 00:13:07,752 --> 00:13:14,794 ♪ 288 00:13:16,312 --> 00:13:17,935 In the 1970s in Montreal, 289 00:13:17,969 --> 00:13:20,420 I was working for the British consulate 290 00:13:20,454 --> 00:13:22,042 and met so many amazing people, 291 00:13:22,077 --> 00:13:24,907 including the Prince of Wales, of course. 292 00:13:24,942 --> 00:13:27,668 ♪ 293 00:13:27,703 --> 00:13:30,257 His ship had come in to Montreal to dock, 294 00:13:30,292 --> 00:13:32,501 and they were going to give a reception onboard. 295 00:13:32,535 --> 00:13:34,537 So naturally, we were all invited. 296 00:13:34,572 --> 00:13:37,437 [dramatic orchestral music] 297 00:13:37,471 --> 00:13:39,888 We were in line to be presented to him. 298 00:13:39,922 --> 00:13:41,855 And then he got to me. 299 00:13:41,890 --> 00:13:44,306 And I said, "I hope you get a chance to see Montreal, 300 00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:45,997 and I hope you really enjoy it." 301 00:13:46,032 --> 00:13:48,206 He said, "Well, I will if you'll show it to me." 302 00:13:48,241 --> 00:13:49,863 So that's how it started. 303 00:13:49,898 --> 00:13:51,278 And then he said, "I'll have my private secretary 304 00:13:51,313 --> 00:13:52,866 call you tomorrow," 305 00:13:52,901 --> 00:13:54,764 ♪ 306 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:56,249 He did actually contact me, 307 00:13:56,283 --> 00:13:57,767 and I showed him a lot of Montreal. 308 00:13:57,802 --> 00:14:00,632 We had a sort of drive around. 309 00:14:00,667 --> 00:14:03,221 And that's how our friendship started. 310 00:14:03,256 --> 00:14:06,224 [jazzy music] 311 00:14:06,259 --> 00:14:10,919 ♪ 312 00:14:10,953 --> 00:14:12,472 We liked the same things. 313 00:14:12,506 --> 00:14:14,405 We both loved the movies that we had chosen, 314 00:14:14,439 --> 00:14:15,406 which was "The Pink Panther." 315 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,786 We're both big fans. 316 00:14:16,821 --> 00:14:21,584 ♪ 317 00:14:21,619 --> 00:14:23,897 So we went in to see the movie. 318 00:14:23,932 --> 00:14:25,761 And the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, 319 00:14:25,795 --> 00:14:27,556 they were just protecting the whole building 320 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:29,903 while he was in there, which was quite funny. 321 00:14:29,938 --> 00:14:34,632 - The Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the RCMP, 322 00:14:34,665 --> 00:14:38,463 the Mounties, 5,400 men who maintain the law 323 00:14:38,498 --> 00:14:40,914 superbly well in Canada. 324 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:48,025 ♪ 325 00:14:48,473 --> 00:14:50,096 - We had lots of laughter, 326 00:14:50,130 --> 00:14:53,409 and I find him very, very easy to get along with. 327 00:14:53,444 --> 00:14:56,412 ♪ 328 00:14:56,447 --> 00:14:57,758 He came to my apartment. 329 00:14:57,793 --> 00:15:01,245 And we had the RCMP outside my door, 330 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:04,144 on the roof of the building, on the fire escape. 331 00:15:04,179 --> 00:15:06,422 So it was not exactly an intimate evening, 332 00:15:06,457 --> 00:15:07,941 but anyway it was really nice. 333 00:15:07,976 --> 00:15:10,323 And they'd given him a panic button so that we 334 00:15:10,357 --> 00:15:12,014 would have some time together. 335 00:15:12,049 --> 00:15:14,327 And we just had a very, very fun time. 336 00:15:14,361 --> 00:15:15,638 It was really lovely. 337 00:15:15,673 --> 00:15:18,814 [soft music] 338 00:15:18,848 --> 00:15:25,648 ♪ 339 00:15:25,683 --> 00:15:27,098 We were very careful about the press 340 00:15:27,133 --> 00:15:28,962 because they would get word of things, 341 00:15:28,997 --> 00:15:30,860 and they would, you know, be hounding us everywhere. 342 00:15:30,895 --> 00:15:34,554 But we were very lucky, very lucky to keep it quiet. 343 00:15:34,588 --> 00:15:36,038 - Been waiting a long time? 344 00:15:36,073 --> 00:15:38,316 - Yes, sir. - Sorry we were late. 345 00:15:38,351 --> 00:15:40,491 [laughter] 346 00:15:40,525 --> 00:15:43,839 - The first time we met was 1975. 347 00:15:43,873 --> 00:15:47,153 After he left, he went to the Arctic. 348 00:15:47,187 --> 00:15:48,499 [chuckles] 349 00:15:48,533 --> 00:15:49,879 He looks so good there, doesn't he? 350 00:15:49,914 --> 00:15:52,882 I mean, I think he looks pretty handsome there. 351 00:15:52,917 --> 00:15:56,093 I love it when he comes out and he deflates it. 352 00:15:56,127 --> 00:15:59,096 [laughter] 353 00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:02,099 ♪ 354 00:16:02,133 --> 00:16:04,964 [laughs] 355 00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:07,000 - Very warm. - Can you tell us how it was? 356 00:16:07,035 --> 00:16:08,691 - It was plenty. 357 00:16:08,726 --> 00:16:12,626 It was a very interesting day, but bloody cold. 358 00:16:13,662 --> 00:16:15,595 - He is so funny. 359 00:16:15,629 --> 00:16:17,286 - Well, I'll tell you, we put the air in here, you see. 360 00:16:17,321 --> 00:16:19,081 It will now do an amazing-- 361 00:16:19,116 --> 00:16:22,084 [air hissing] 362 00:16:22,119 --> 00:16:25,156 [laughter] 363 00:16:28,297 --> 00:16:31,300 [cheers and applause] 364 00:16:31,335 --> 00:16:34,476 - I mean, you see how funny he is. 365 00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:37,755 It just goes to show the sense of humor that he's got. 366 00:16:37,789 --> 00:16:40,068 And I think he's still like that. 367 00:16:40,102 --> 00:16:42,898 There's a really fun side of the Prince of Wales. 368 00:16:42,932 --> 00:16:43,968 He's very jolly. 369 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:46,626 He's not in the least bit closed. 370 00:16:46,660 --> 00:16:48,214 And that's what people don't realize. 371 00:16:48,248 --> 00:16:51,217 [upbeat music] 372 00:16:51,251 --> 00:16:58,465 ♪ 373 00:17:03,884 --> 00:17:05,368 I knew that I was important because I was 374 00:17:05,403 --> 00:17:07,992 getting letters all the time. 375 00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:13,825 Wherever he was, I would phone Buckingham Palace, 376 00:17:13,859 --> 00:17:15,241 and they would page me through to wherever 377 00:17:15,275 --> 00:17:17,208 he was in the world basically. 378 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Here's my letter from the Bahamas. 379 00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:25,113 And he said that he had just come in from the beach. 380 00:17:25,146 --> 00:17:27,907 And he writes to make myself a delicious brown color 381 00:17:27,943 --> 00:17:31,464 and turning thoroughly irresistible. 382 00:17:31,498 --> 00:17:34,018 "Can't wait to hear from you." 383 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,502 And then he sent me a great deal of love 384 00:17:35,537 --> 00:17:37,297 and a salty kiss from the Bahamas. 385 00:17:37,332 --> 00:17:39,127 Charles. It was lovely. 386 00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:41,474 I couldn't wait to see him then. 387 00:17:41,508 --> 00:17:42,820 - Quite flirty then? 388 00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:44,304 - Oh, very flirty. 389 00:17:44,339 --> 00:17:46,168 Of course, he was very flirty and very charming. 390 00:17:46,203 --> 00:17:51,725 And of course, you know, I just loved getting them, of course. 391 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,418 And these I haven't shared with anybody, actually. 392 00:17:54,452 --> 00:17:57,593 These are my private collection. 393 00:17:57,628 --> 00:17:59,319 [chuckles] 394 00:17:59,354 --> 00:18:02,322 [upbeat rock music] 395 00:18:02,357 --> 00:18:09,536 ♪ 396 00:18:22,584 --> 00:18:23,895 He'd asked me to come over 397 00:18:23,930 --> 00:18:26,208 because it was the Queen's Jubilee. 398 00:18:26,243 --> 00:18:30,074 They called me the blonde, the blonde that popped up. 399 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:31,869 And then at one of the polo matches, 400 00:18:31,903 --> 00:18:33,940 they said, typical type of girlfriend-- 401 00:18:33,974 --> 00:18:36,943 tall, and pretty, and shy, standing back. 402 00:18:36,977 --> 00:18:38,703 But they didn't know my name. 403 00:18:38,738 --> 00:18:39,877 And he was very happy. 404 00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:41,223 He said, you know, it's amazing how 405 00:18:41,258 --> 00:18:42,535 we've been able to do this. I said, yes. 406 00:18:42,569 --> 00:18:45,538 [light music] 407 00:18:45,572 --> 00:18:48,748 ♪ 408 00:18:48,782 --> 00:18:52,027 He said, you know, why don't you come down to Balmoral? 409 00:18:52,061 --> 00:18:55,099 So I flew into Aberdeen, and then I was met in Aberdeen. 410 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,170 And we were not staying at the castle. 411 00:18:57,205 --> 00:18:59,828 We were staying in the little guesthouse they have. 412 00:18:59,862 --> 00:19:02,624 ♪ 413 00:19:04,246 --> 00:19:06,559 And then unfortunately, the press got wind 414 00:19:06,593 --> 00:19:08,388 of somebody there with him. 415 00:19:08,423 --> 00:19:10,114 And they sort of ruined the whole thing 416 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:12,496 by saying the blonde popped up at Balmoral. 417 00:19:12,530 --> 00:19:14,636 ♪ 418 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:16,258 Said you really have to go back, 419 00:19:16,293 --> 00:19:18,295 he said, because now they've got the long-range things. 420 00:19:18,329 --> 00:19:19,951 They can see us. 421 00:19:19,986 --> 00:19:23,783 [tense music] 422 00:19:23,817 --> 00:19:26,061 And so we both went in different cars 423 00:19:26,095 --> 00:19:29,340 to say goodbye at this little crossroads almost. 424 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:31,170 He came out, kissed me goodbye. 425 00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:34,311 It was very foggy. It was like a Hollywood movie. 426 00:19:34,345 --> 00:19:35,795 ♪ 427 00:19:35,829 --> 00:19:37,452 I was really upset about it. 428 00:19:37,486 --> 00:19:38,936 And he said, oh, you know-- he gave me his handkerchief. 429 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:40,109 He said, "Oh, you will be all right." 430 00:19:40,144 --> 00:19:41,939 You know, he wasn't good at that. 431 00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:44,493 I think the stiff upper lip was very much what you did. 432 00:19:44,528 --> 00:19:46,392 And so showing emotion like that was just something 433 00:19:46,426 --> 00:19:49,636 that he didn't know how to react to. 434 00:19:49,671 --> 00:19:52,225 - Charles, when it came to his emotions, 435 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:54,710 was not the most demonstrative person 436 00:19:54,745 --> 00:19:58,542 because Charles had emotional needs of his own. 437 00:19:58,576 --> 00:20:00,682 - Charles was a sensitive young man 438 00:20:00,716 --> 00:20:04,237 bullied by his father, and his father was a man's man 439 00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:08,862 who felt that the King Charles would have to toughen up. 440 00:20:08,897 --> 00:20:11,693 He was quite hard on his son and the schools 441 00:20:11,727 --> 00:20:14,074 that he chose for his son. 442 00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:15,869 - Hi. 443 00:20:15,904 --> 00:20:17,733 I'm Johnny Stonbourough. 444 00:20:17,768 --> 00:20:21,254 And I was at school with the king, 445 00:20:21,289 --> 00:20:23,256 or Prince Charles, as he was then. 446 00:20:23,291 --> 00:20:25,189 ♪ 447 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:28,330 Nearly four years, we were in the same class 448 00:20:28,365 --> 00:20:31,713 together at Gordonstoun, which is a boarding school 449 00:20:31,747 --> 00:20:33,128 up in the north of Scotland. 450 00:20:33,162 --> 00:20:35,199 Gordonstoun was famously tough. 451 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,684 Some people actually called it Colditz in a kilt, 452 00:20:37,719 --> 00:20:41,723 Colditz being a German prisoner of war camp. 453 00:20:41,757 --> 00:20:43,276 There was a run every morning. 454 00:20:43,311 --> 00:20:44,795 You just wore a pair of shorts. 455 00:20:44,829 --> 00:20:46,245 Didn't matter what the weather was. 456 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:48,385 And this is the north of Scotland. 457 00:20:48,419 --> 00:20:50,456 A cold shower, not necessarily because you 458 00:20:50,490 --> 00:20:54,011 had to have a cold shower, but because the hot water ran out. 459 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,877 He was having a very bad time 460 00:20:57,911 --> 00:21:00,535 in the boarding house that he was in. 461 00:21:00,569 --> 00:21:03,434 He was ill treated by the senior boys. 462 00:21:03,469 --> 00:21:05,816 And I think that the housemaster 463 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:10,303 probably sanctioned it up to a point to toughen him up. 464 00:21:10,338 --> 00:21:13,858 It's what his father would have wanted. 465 00:21:13,893 --> 00:21:17,345 The first time I ever actually saw, myself, 466 00:21:17,379 --> 00:21:20,175 what was happening was playing rugby. 467 00:21:20,209 --> 00:21:22,936 And he was in the scrum. 468 00:21:22,971 --> 00:21:25,318 And a couple of the other boys had decided, 469 00:21:25,353 --> 00:21:28,425 quotes, that they were going to "get Prince Charles." 470 00:21:28,459 --> 00:21:31,807 And this involved punching him, and pulling his ears, 471 00:21:31,842 --> 00:21:33,982 and kicking him. 472 00:21:34,845 --> 00:21:37,986 But you know, the amazing thing is that he never responded. 473 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:39,298 He never reacted. 474 00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:42,508 He was very stoic about the whole thing. 475 00:21:42,542 --> 00:21:45,994 The never complaining, never explaining 476 00:21:46,028 --> 00:21:49,480 is deeply ingrained in him. 477 00:21:49,515 --> 00:21:52,897 But it was almost impossible for him to have friends 478 00:21:52,932 --> 00:21:57,316 because anybody who was deemed to be a friend of the prince's 479 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:59,318 was teased brutally as well. 480 00:21:59,352 --> 00:22:02,044 So people tended to avoid it. 481 00:22:03,425 --> 00:22:06,704 He used to have a duffel coat, a blue duffel coat. 482 00:22:06,739 --> 00:22:08,637 And he would have his hands in his pockets. 483 00:22:08,672 --> 00:22:12,538 And he would pull the duffel coat in front of him 484 00:22:12,572 --> 00:22:14,643 and be walking by himself. 485 00:22:14,678 --> 00:22:18,509 And that's very much an image that I have of him. 486 00:22:18,544 --> 00:22:21,063 He was the boy who walked alone. 487 00:22:34,283 --> 00:22:37,873 - Do you have any thoughts about the lady 488 00:22:37,908 --> 00:22:39,288 that the Prince of Wales should marry? 489 00:22:39,323 --> 00:22:42,015 Should she still be a royal or titled lady? 490 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:43,879 - Um... [chuckles] 491 00:22:43,914 --> 00:22:48,401 Yes, well, I suppose-- you see, it's awfully difficult 492 00:22:48,436 --> 00:22:50,886 because you've got to remember that, 493 00:22:50,921 --> 00:22:53,199 when you marry in my position, 494 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,271 you're going to marry somebody who perhaps one day 495 00:22:56,305 --> 00:22:57,997 is going to become queen. 496 00:22:58,031 --> 00:23:00,413 And you've got to choose somebody very carefully, 497 00:23:00,448 --> 00:23:03,416 I think, who could fulfill this particular role 498 00:23:03,451 --> 00:23:06,177 because people like you perhaps would expect quite 499 00:23:06,212 --> 00:23:07,731 a lot from somebody like that. 500 00:23:07,765 --> 00:23:10,250 And it's got to be somebody pretty special. 501 00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:16,222 - There were some rather strange, medieval conditions 502 00:23:16,256 --> 00:23:18,397 for becoming Princess of Wales 503 00:23:18,431 --> 00:23:20,571 and marrying the Prince of Wales. 504 00:23:20,606 --> 00:23:24,264 Whoever married Charles, 505 00:23:24,299 --> 00:23:27,440 she had to have a sort of clean past. 506 00:23:27,475 --> 00:23:29,580 Obviously, she couldn't be divorced. 507 00:23:29,615 --> 00:23:33,273 She had to be pretty squeaky clean. 508 00:23:33,308 --> 00:23:36,760 Living with somebody meant that you got scratched. 509 00:23:36,794 --> 00:23:38,106 It's another world. 510 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:41,109 [soft music] 511 00:23:41,143 --> 00:23:42,938 ♪ 512 00:23:42,973 --> 00:23:44,768 - I was a divorcée. 513 00:23:44,802 --> 00:23:48,461 So the fact that I was a forbidden fruit 514 00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:52,327 made our relationship so much easier and more relaxed, 515 00:23:52,361 --> 00:23:56,296 and, you know, we could just be ourselves totally. 516 00:23:56,331 --> 00:23:58,644 And he did confide in me 517 00:23:58,678 --> 00:24:01,405 about some of the ladies that he brought to the polo 518 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,131 and everything like that, you know. 519 00:24:03,165 --> 00:24:06,548 It was a lovely, easy, open relationship, yeah. 520 00:24:06,583 --> 00:24:08,239 ♪ 521 00:24:08,274 --> 00:24:11,346 I think it slightly went to my head in the end, 522 00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:12,796 but it was flattering. 523 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:15,799 And the fact that it wasn't just boom and-- 524 00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:18,905 you know, we've been able to talk about anything 525 00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:22,184 and all our problems. 526 00:24:22,219 --> 00:24:24,083 I didn't have any pretensions. 527 00:24:24,117 --> 00:24:25,878 I mean, there were jokes. 528 00:24:25,912 --> 00:24:30,883 My one boss had a T-shirt made, "Jane for Queen," which was-- 529 00:24:30,917 --> 00:24:33,851 [laughs] Which was very funny. 530 00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:38,373 ♪ 531 00:24:38,407 --> 00:24:41,997 This is the first time I think it hit the press. 532 00:24:42,032 --> 00:24:47,624 The press did start to take photos and were aware of us. 533 00:24:47,658 --> 00:24:50,523 And I think that went into the newspaper. 534 00:24:50,558 --> 00:24:54,423 Officials of the club thought they should sort of protect him 535 00:24:54,458 --> 00:24:57,323 because I was a divorcée. 536 00:24:57,357 --> 00:25:00,533 They would always try and keep him apart. 537 00:25:00,568 --> 00:25:02,397 I mean, the body language is quite telling, 538 00:25:02,431 --> 00:25:03,398 isn't it, really? 539 00:25:03,432 --> 00:25:05,020 Of mine. [laughs] 540 00:25:05,055 --> 00:25:08,541 You know, I don't look as if I'm very worried by it all, 541 00:25:08,576 --> 00:25:12,303 you know--cigarette lighter around the neck, you know. 542 00:25:12,338 --> 00:25:14,547 Must have said something that made me laugh. 543 00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:17,101 I don't know. Nice photos. 544 00:25:17,136 --> 00:25:18,896 [laughs] 545 00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:22,417 ♪ 546 00:25:22,451 --> 00:25:24,661 The golden rule for Charles' girlfriends 547 00:25:24,695 --> 00:25:27,526 was to never speak to the media 548 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,769 about their relationship with the prince. 549 00:25:29,804 --> 00:25:32,565 As soon as that happened, they were finished. 550 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,084 ♪ 551 00:25:34,118 --> 00:25:37,536 - A royal correspondent to "The Sun," James Whitaker, 552 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:42,471 who had become a bit of a sort of friend, he rang me to say, 553 00:25:42,506 --> 00:25:46,130 Jane, I just want to tell you that it's been blown 554 00:25:46,165 --> 00:25:49,789 to the newspapers that you are the new girl 555 00:25:49,824 --> 00:25:51,929 in Prince Charles' life. 556 00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:54,932 And he said, your headline's tomorrow. 557 00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:57,935 And he said, well, can I come down and see you? 558 00:25:57,970 --> 00:26:01,629 And I just was so in shock that I thought 559 00:26:01,663 --> 00:26:03,492 he was a friend at the time. 560 00:26:03,527 --> 00:26:06,012 And they came to the cottage. 561 00:26:06,047 --> 00:26:07,980 ♪ 562 00:26:08,014 --> 00:26:11,328 I just said, we just like to sort of lark around. 563 00:26:11,362 --> 00:26:13,675 And I probably mentioned something like, you know, 564 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:16,022 we just like to tease each other. 565 00:26:16,057 --> 00:26:18,507 [tense music] 566 00:26:18,542 --> 00:26:21,959 Unbeknown to me, because it was a quote from me, 567 00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:24,134 that went into the press. 568 00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:25,963 ♪ 569 00:26:25,998 --> 00:26:29,070 And I was knifed because it was a quote from me. 570 00:26:29,104 --> 00:26:36,180 ♪ 571 00:26:36,974 --> 00:26:39,632 That's what turned me into the kiss-and-tell 572 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:41,047 and the blabber girl. 573 00:26:41,082 --> 00:26:43,912 ♪ 574 00:26:43,947 --> 00:26:46,018 So it was a stitch-up. 575 00:26:46,052 --> 00:26:49,435 I think it went on for nearly two weeks, the headlines. 576 00:26:49,469 --> 00:26:52,196 I was so mortified. 577 00:26:53,681 --> 00:26:55,890 They feel it's a betrayal. 578 00:26:57,098 --> 00:26:59,169 They do close ranks. 579 00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:04,450 He was probably told, stay away because she's a chatter. 580 00:27:04,484 --> 00:27:08,040 But because he knew that I'd been set up, 581 00:27:08,074 --> 00:27:10,042 he was always there in the background, 582 00:27:10,076 --> 00:27:13,424 hoping that I was coping, which I wasn't. 583 00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:15,634 [chuckles] 584 00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:18,637 I remember asking for some help from one 585 00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:20,224 of the press secretaries. 586 00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:23,952 And he said, you're in it on your own. 587 00:27:23,987 --> 00:27:26,921 So I did feel very vulnerable at the time. 588 00:27:26,955 --> 00:27:28,854 [soft music] 589 00:27:28,888 --> 00:27:31,684 Of course, in hindsight would have been nice, 590 00:27:31,719 --> 00:27:34,273 but don't put me in that category. 591 00:27:34,307 --> 00:27:35,654 [laughs] 592 00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:38,760 I would not be a suitable queen. 593 00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:43,075 [tense music] 594 00:27:43,109 --> 00:27:46,941 - In the late '70s, there was a development 595 00:27:46,975 --> 00:27:50,427 when it came to Camilla and Charles. 596 00:27:50,461 --> 00:27:52,947 ♪ 597 00:27:52,981 --> 00:27:55,328 Camilla was married, 598 00:27:55,363 --> 00:27:59,470 but her husband Andrew did stray. 599 00:27:59,505 --> 00:28:02,819 And I think Camilla was very hurt. 600 00:28:03,958 --> 00:28:07,375 So I think she gravitated back towards Charles 601 00:28:07,409 --> 00:28:10,723 because I think she wanted to feel that somebody 602 00:28:10,758 --> 00:28:13,450 wanted her like crazy. 603 00:28:13,484 --> 00:28:15,555 And that person was Charles 604 00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:19,042 because he'd never stopped wanting her. 605 00:28:19,076 --> 00:28:20,768 - My feeling is that, actually, Charles 606 00:28:20,802 --> 00:28:22,562 was terribly in love with Camilla, 607 00:28:22,597 --> 00:28:24,633 and I don't think he experienced love like it. 608 00:28:24,668 --> 00:28:28,154 But again, he would know that Camilla would be someone 609 00:28:28,189 --> 00:28:29,708 that he couldn't marry 610 00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:33,401 because she would have to get divorced. 611 00:28:36,197 --> 00:28:39,372 [bells ringing] 612 00:28:41,512 --> 00:28:43,376 - Now that he was 31 years of age, 613 00:28:43,411 --> 00:28:46,552 great conjecture had already been shown over when 614 00:28:46,586 --> 00:28:48,692 and who he was likely to marry. 615 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:52,109 Often, it was headline news. 616 00:28:53,076 --> 00:28:55,941 - Prince Philip was definitely pressuring him as well 617 00:28:55,975 --> 00:28:58,460 to get married and produce an heir and a spare, 618 00:28:58,495 --> 00:29:00,152 as they say. 619 00:29:01,567 --> 00:29:03,258 He would say to me oftentimes-- 620 00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:04,777 you know, he'd say, every time I meet someone, 621 00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:06,779 they're marrying me off to them. 622 00:29:06,814 --> 00:29:08,885 And so the fact that he was seen 623 00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:11,370 with a number of different women, I think, 624 00:29:11,404 --> 00:29:12,854 was something disconcerting to them. 625 00:29:12,889 --> 00:29:15,719 I think they wanted him to just be settled. 626 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,548 This was his fate, and he was going 627 00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:19,412 to go along with it because what 628 00:29:19,447 --> 00:29:21,863 was expected of him basically. 629 00:29:21,898 --> 00:29:25,764 ♪ 630 00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:30,285 [soft piano music] 631 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,150 [crowd shouting] 632 00:29:33,185 --> 00:29:38,811 ♪ 633 00:29:38,846 --> 00:29:43,782 - At that time, he'd just started dating Diana Spencer. 634 00:29:46,612 --> 00:29:48,407 - Lady Diana was born into a world 635 00:29:48,441 --> 00:29:52,514 of large country houses set in huge rural estates. 636 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:55,345 She grew up in Park House practically next door 637 00:29:55,379 --> 00:29:58,072 to the queen, whom she called Aunt Lilibet. 638 00:29:58,106 --> 00:30:00,281 [cameras snapping] 639 00:30:00,315 --> 00:30:02,628 - The queen mother was very old-fashioned. 640 00:30:02,662 --> 00:30:05,113 I think she kept pushing Diana 641 00:30:05,148 --> 00:30:07,667 because she was too young to have a past. 642 00:30:07,702 --> 00:30:08,979 - Let's face it. 643 00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,430 She fitted into the small itinerary 644 00:30:11,464 --> 00:30:12,638 that he had to work from. 645 00:30:12,672 --> 00:30:14,191 [chuckles] 646 00:30:15,227 --> 00:30:18,644 - Diana Spencer had no experience 647 00:30:18,678 --> 00:30:20,888 with men whatsoever. 648 00:30:20,922 --> 00:30:26,065 And I was told that their relationship 649 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:30,276 was not consummated until their honeymoon. 650 00:30:30,311 --> 00:30:34,142 So there wouldn't have been much of a sexual nature 651 00:30:34,177 --> 00:30:36,075 to the courtship. 652 00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:42,150 At the same time, Charles had started seeing Camilla again. 653 00:30:42,185 --> 00:30:48,674 ♪ 654 00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:55,646 - Going back to when I was at a polo dance in Cirencester. 655 00:30:57,131 --> 00:31:01,342 I did notice when I was dancing that Prince Charles 656 00:31:01,376 --> 00:31:04,932 was a lot of the time dancing with Camilla. 657 00:31:04,966 --> 00:31:07,831 They were in full view of everyone, dancing, 658 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:10,592 so it wasn't as if they were trying 659 00:31:10,627 --> 00:31:13,630 to be furtive or anything. 660 00:31:13,664 --> 00:31:15,701 Were they having an affair then? 661 00:31:15,735 --> 00:31:17,703 Well, I didn't know any of that then. 662 00:31:17,737 --> 00:31:22,294 But subsequently, it's come about that he 663 00:31:22,328 --> 00:31:25,021 wasn't exactly a saint. 664 00:31:25,055 --> 00:31:28,438 They've admitted it, so it must have been going on. 665 00:31:28,472 --> 00:31:31,096 But yeah. 666 00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:32,821 I didn't know. 667 00:31:35,065 --> 00:31:36,895 - My name is Penny Junor. 668 00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:39,759 The king and queen, I know them well 669 00:31:39,794 --> 00:31:42,555 because I've written about them extensively 670 00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:43,971 for over 40 years now. 671 00:31:44,005 --> 00:31:45,834 I've been on tours with them. 672 00:31:45,869 --> 00:31:49,045 I've had lunch with the Prince of Wales. 673 00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:52,496 Kissing Camilla on a public dance floor 674 00:31:52,531 --> 00:31:55,948 is extraordinarily indiscreet. 675 00:31:55,983 --> 00:31:58,330 I have no idea what was going through Charles' mind. 676 00:31:58,364 --> 00:32:03,162 I imagine what goes through any man or couple's mind when they 677 00:32:03,197 --> 00:32:06,338 are in love with each other, in lust with each other, 678 00:32:06,372 --> 00:32:09,893 fancy the pants off each other. 679 00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:12,275 They had probably had a few drinks. 680 00:32:12,309 --> 00:32:13,966 It was a party. 681 00:32:14,001 --> 00:32:18,384 And he possibly felt that he was amongst friends. 682 00:32:20,007 --> 00:32:23,803 - Her husband Andrew was doing the same thing. 683 00:32:23,838 --> 00:32:27,946 So I doubt Charles would have thought 684 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:30,086 he was doing anything terribly wrong 685 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,813 if he kissed Camilla at a party. 686 00:32:33,986 --> 00:32:37,817 But having said that, all that did stop 687 00:32:37,852 --> 00:32:42,305 once he and Diana became engaged. 688 00:32:42,339 --> 00:32:45,308 [dramatic music] 689 00:32:45,342 --> 00:32:48,035 ♪ 690 00:32:48,069 --> 00:32:51,003 - Then on the 24th of February, 1981, 691 00:32:51,038 --> 00:32:52,936 from Buckingham Palace came the news 692 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,559 that the whole world had been waiting for. 693 00:32:55,594 --> 00:32:57,561 The heir to the throne presented 694 00:32:57,596 --> 00:33:02,394 his beautiful bride to be, Lady Diana Frances Spencer. 695 00:33:02,428 --> 00:33:04,741 [soft piano music] 696 00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,019 - I was in Bermuda on vacation. 697 00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:09,504 And he phoned me and said, I promised I would tell you 698 00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:11,230 when I was going to get engaged. 699 00:33:11,265 --> 00:33:13,025 He said, I'm not supposed to tell anybody right now, 700 00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,027 but they're announcing my engagement tomorrow. 701 00:33:15,062 --> 00:33:16,373 He said, please don't say anything. 702 00:33:16,408 --> 00:33:17,857 I said, of course not. 703 00:33:17,892 --> 00:33:19,376 And I said, well, I'm coming to your wedding. 704 00:33:19,411 --> 00:33:21,792 He said, of course. [chuckles] 705 00:33:21,827 --> 00:33:25,037 - Can you find the words to sum up how you feel today, 706 00:33:25,072 --> 00:33:26,521 both of you? 707 00:33:26,556 --> 00:33:29,593 - Difficult to find words, isn't it, really? 708 00:33:29,628 --> 00:33:31,561 Just delighted and happy. 709 00:33:31,595 --> 00:33:35,772 And I'm amazed that she's been brave enough to take me on. 710 00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,706 - [chuckles] - And I suppose in love. 711 00:33:38,740 --> 00:33:40,397 - Course. 712 00:33:40,432 --> 00:33:42,917 - Whatever in love means. - Yes. 713 00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:46,955 - Diana made a point about it, 714 00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:48,612 how shattered she was by his answer, 715 00:33:48,647 --> 00:33:50,545 but I think she was being very sensitive 716 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:53,238 because she knew about Camilla. 717 00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:56,931 [crowd cheering] 718 00:33:56,965 --> 00:34:00,038 - We now know that she was also aware 719 00:34:00,072 --> 00:34:01,591 of Camilla Parker Bowles. 720 00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:03,696 I mean, had he said to her, "OK, it's over. 721 00:34:03,731 --> 00:34:05,422 I will never see her again," 722 00:34:05,457 --> 00:34:06,803 it would have been a different thing. 723 00:34:06,837 --> 00:34:08,563 But he wasn't prepared to do that. 724 00:34:08,598 --> 00:34:10,013 But I don't believe that he would have married her 725 00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:12,152 or agreed to marry her if he hadn't 726 00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,466 had strong feelings for her. 727 00:34:15,329 --> 00:34:18,297 [upbeat music] 728 00:34:18,331 --> 00:34:25,027 ♪ 729 00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,547 [horn honking] 730 00:34:40,768 --> 00:34:43,667 - I remember getting the call that I was going 731 00:34:43,702 --> 00:34:45,980 to be invited to be a bridesmaid 732 00:34:46,014 --> 00:34:48,431 to Charles and Diana. 733 00:34:48,465 --> 00:34:50,536 And I remember thinking, oh, God, I'm going 734 00:34:50,571 --> 00:34:51,951 to have to wear a dress. 735 00:34:51,985 --> 00:34:53,746 And I was quite a tomboy at the time, 736 00:34:53,781 --> 00:34:55,300 and I would always be riding bareback on ponies 737 00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:57,094 and climbing trees. 738 00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:59,890 And so the idea of wearing a dress was a little worrying. 739 00:35:03,584 --> 00:35:05,896 So I'm India Hicks. 740 00:35:05,931 --> 00:35:09,555 And I happen to be Prince Charles' goddaughter. 741 00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:11,523 Or should I say, King Charles. 742 00:35:11,557 --> 00:35:14,526 [light music] 743 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:21,774 ♪ 744 00:35:23,535 --> 00:35:25,192 The '80s was all about, you know, 745 00:35:25,226 --> 00:35:29,575 puff balls, and taffeta, and over-the-top-ness. 746 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,026 And Diana wanted a 25-foot train. 747 00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:35,271 No one else had ever had a 25-foot train. 748 00:35:35,305 --> 00:35:39,896 And I had that job of dealing with the train. 749 00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:44,728 And there is Diana with her large and quite ailing father. 750 00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:46,454 And there wasn't much room for all of that train. 751 00:35:46,489 --> 00:35:48,629 So by the time they opened the door and they got her out, 752 00:35:48,663 --> 00:35:50,803 the bloody thing was very crumpled. 753 00:35:50,838 --> 00:35:53,047 It was quite something. 754 00:35:53,081 --> 00:35:55,532 It did look amazing. I mean, it did look amazing. 755 00:35:55,567 --> 00:35:57,293 All you really see is my bum in the air 756 00:35:57,327 --> 00:35:58,570 because I spent most of the time trying 757 00:35:58,604 --> 00:36:00,158 to sort that thing out. 758 00:36:00,192 --> 00:36:07,406 ♪ 759 00:36:13,032 --> 00:36:18,245 - This is a picture of Diana coming down with her father. 760 00:36:18,279 --> 00:36:19,832 [camera snapping] 761 00:36:21,282 --> 00:36:23,595 And I can see Camilla Parker Bowles 762 00:36:23,629 --> 00:36:26,356 looking across to Diana. 763 00:36:26,391 --> 00:36:28,703 And I know that Diana, when she was coming down the aisle, 764 00:36:28,738 --> 00:36:30,118 she said she was looking everywhere to see 765 00:36:30,153 --> 00:36:31,672 where she was because she was sure 766 00:36:31,706 --> 00:36:32,914 she was going to be there. 767 00:36:32,949 --> 00:36:35,193 And of course, she was, so... 768 00:36:36,263 --> 00:36:40,128 Not a good way to start your marriage. 769 00:36:40,163 --> 00:36:42,614 - I think Camilla, she's a worldly, wise woman. 770 00:36:42,648 --> 00:36:44,063 She would have seen 771 00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:45,789 this beautiful, young girl come along. 772 00:36:45,824 --> 00:36:47,998 She was clearly by that stage in love with Charles 773 00:36:48,033 --> 00:36:50,794 and maybe thought there was nothing wrong that he would 774 00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:52,865 have his wife, they would have a few kids, 775 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,833 but she would still have this role 776 00:36:54,867 --> 00:36:57,076 as the mistress in his life. 777 00:36:57,111 --> 00:37:00,804 And she felt confident in that. 778 00:37:00,839 --> 00:37:03,635 And she was right because, like it or loathe it, 779 00:37:03,669 --> 00:37:06,741 Charles was in love with somebody else. 780 00:37:07,673 --> 00:37:11,332 - By the time Charles and Diana walked up that aisle 781 00:37:11,367 --> 00:37:14,818 in St. Paul's Cathedral, they both, I think, 782 00:37:14,853 --> 00:37:17,545 knew they were making a mistake. 783 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:20,652 Charles definitely did. 784 00:37:20,686 --> 00:37:23,310 [ominous music] 785 00:37:23,344 --> 00:37:25,173 Diana had changed. 786 00:37:25,208 --> 00:37:27,003 The minute they became engaged, 787 00:37:27,037 --> 00:37:29,039 she became a different woman. 788 00:37:29,074 --> 00:37:32,664 The sweet, lovely, funny, laughing girl 789 00:37:32,698 --> 00:37:35,494 turned into something completely different. 790 00:37:35,529 --> 00:37:38,739 She had very much darker side. 791 00:37:39,912 --> 00:37:42,501 She was jealous. She was enraged. 792 00:37:42,536 --> 00:37:44,296 She was in tears. 793 00:37:44,331 --> 00:37:47,368 He didn't know what on earth had happened. 794 00:37:47,403 --> 00:37:50,406 I think he probably always loved Camilla. 795 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,201 So to have her there, goodness knows what thoughts 796 00:37:53,236 --> 00:37:56,204 must have been going through his head--despair, probably, 797 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,554 but hope, hope that he was going to make it all right. 798 00:38:00,588 --> 00:38:05,006 - I pronounce that they be man and wife together. 799 00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:09,942 Those whom God has joined together 800 00:38:09,977 --> 00:38:13,291 let no man put asunder. 801 00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:17,053 - And everybody was so happy. 802 00:38:17,087 --> 00:38:18,744 Nobody knew what was actually happening. 803 00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:21,091 Nobody knew what was to come, but that was the moment. 804 00:38:21,126 --> 00:38:24,129 And I think genuinely, Charles and Diana thought, 805 00:38:24,163 --> 00:38:26,338 "We're gonna make a go of this. It's gonna be OK." 806 00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:32,758 [upbeat orchestral music] 807 00:38:32,793 --> 00:38:34,691 ♪ 808 00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:37,315 - Highgrove Charles bought when he was a bachelor 809 00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:39,972 and was close-to-home farm where he 810 00:38:40,007 --> 00:38:43,044 was going to farm organically. 811 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,288 And then he did all the gardens himself. 812 00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:47,428 And so it became very important 813 00:38:47,463 --> 00:38:50,224 to him as a sanctuary. 814 00:38:50,258 --> 00:38:52,985 And then, of course, when he married Diana, 815 00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:56,195 they had that as their country home. 816 00:38:57,127 --> 00:38:59,406 And they had Kensington Palace, 817 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,443 which was their London apartments. 818 00:39:02,478 --> 00:39:07,241 ♪ 819 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:12,315 - Mervyn Wycherley. 820 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,075 I was head chef to the Prince of Wales 821 00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:17,838 and Lady Diana Spencer for 13 years 822 00:39:17,872 --> 00:39:20,703 and finished in '95. 823 00:39:20,737 --> 00:39:23,878 [upbeat electronic music] 824 00:39:23,913 --> 00:39:26,916 ♪ 825 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:29,712 The early years, it was so exciting. 826 00:39:29,746 --> 00:39:31,541 It was an absolute buzz. 827 00:39:31,576 --> 00:39:33,854 I mean, I don't think they even knew what had hit them, 828 00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:36,995 really, with everything going on. 829 00:39:37,029 --> 00:39:41,206 But it worked, and they got on enormously well. 830 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,934 Those first few years were--it was great fun. 831 00:39:44,968 --> 00:39:50,042 ♪ 832 00:39:50,595 --> 00:39:53,287 - He had been the playboy, the life, 833 00:39:53,321 --> 00:39:55,703 and so he was the one in the photos. 834 00:39:55,738 --> 00:39:58,534 And then he married this shy, little girl 835 00:39:58,568 --> 00:40:01,709 who turned into an absolute megastar. 836 00:40:01,744 --> 00:40:06,093 And all the press wanted was this very pretty girl. 837 00:40:06,127 --> 00:40:09,441 And I think he had his nose slightly put out of joint. 838 00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:11,443 - Well, I'm not a glove puppet, 839 00:40:11,478 --> 00:40:13,376 so I can't answer for that, I'm afraid. 840 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,758 But I think you enjoyed it, didn't you, darling? 841 00:40:15,792 --> 00:40:17,380 Be an idiot if she didn't enjoy dancing 842 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,313 with John Travolta, wouldn't she? 843 00:40:19,347 --> 00:40:23,282 - I think he became a little bit resentful of the superstar 844 00:40:23,317 --> 00:40:25,388 that he married. 845 00:40:27,010 --> 00:40:30,186 And she was the people's darling, wasn't she? 846 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:32,188 Whereas he was beginning to come across 847 00:40:32,222 --> 00:40:33,948 as a bit more staid. 848 00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:37,296 ♪ 849 00:40:40,368 --> 00:40:42,716 - It was always the nanny's way out was just, 850 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:46,098 why don't you go and play with Mervy down in the kitchen? 851 00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:47,617 [laughs] 852 00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:49,792 And they'd come down and have a play in the kitchen. 853 00:40:49,826 --> 00:40:51,172 You can't keep them out. 854 00:40:51,207 --> 00:40:53,589 So they were very, very different. 855 00:40:53,623 --> 00:40:57,213 William has always been more reserved and thoughtful. 856 00:40:58,732 --> 00:41:02,598 One of the birthday parties, she got a bouncy castle. 857 00:41:02,632 --> 00:41:05,601 We hired some bear suits, five of them, 858 00:41:05,635 --> 00:41:07,188 and we all dressed up in these bear suits. 859 00:41:07,223 --> 00:41:08,949 These kids were playing on the bouncy. 860 00:41:08,983 --> 00:41:12,193 The bears went in, throwing them all. 861 00:41:12,228 --> 00:41:14,126 And I don't know if you've ever worn one of those things. 862 00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:15,611 You can't see a thing. 863 00:41:15,645 --> 00:41:18,890 I swung around, and I caught William straight across. 864 00:41:18,924 --> 00:41:20,823 He flew to the other side. 865 00:41:20,857 --> 00:41:22,790 I thought, oh, God, I've killed him. 866 00:41:22,825 --> 00:41:25,344 [laughs] 867 00:41:25,379 --> 00:41:27,208 None of the children realized, but William, 868 00:41:27,243 --> 00:41:28,796 he looked at the shoes, and he recognized 869 00:41:28,831 --> 00:41:30,557 the people's shoes. 870 00:41:30,591 --> 00:41:32,593 Quite an astute little devil. 871 00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:38,357 - My name is Ken Wharfe. 872 00:41:38,392 --> 00:41:40,152 I was the protection officer of the late Diana, 873 00:41:40,187 --> 00:41:43,190 Princess of Wales, from '87 until '93, '94. 874 00:41:43,362 --> 00:41:46,573 [soft music] 875 00:41:46,607 --> 00:41:47,919 I met the Prince of Wales, 876 00:41:47,953 --> 00:41:50,473 I mean, on a sort of daily basis. 877 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:52,855 When I first worked with William and Harry-- 878 00:41:52,889 --> 00:41:54,442 and they were five and three. 879 00:41:54,477 --> 00:41:56,341 They were young kids. 880 00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,516 I look back at their early years, 881 00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:03,175 and Harry was very much the joker, the entertainer. 882 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:06,178 And that sort of didn't sit very comfortable with William 883 00:42:06,213 --> 00:42:08,733 because, you know, Harry was a bit more popular than me, 884 00:42:08,767 --> 00:42:10,666 you know, and everybody knew that. 885 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,566 ♪ 886 00:42:14,601 --> 00:42:17,914 His Royal Highness was always busy. 887 00:42:17,949 --> 00:42:20,365 The travel was enormous. 888 00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:27,752 - There was a sense that Charles wasn't always there. 889 00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:31,549 So the Prince of Wales with two boys, 890 00:42:31,583 --> 00:42:34,586 I think they could be quite difficult to handle. 891 00:42:35,311 --> 00:42:38,314 And old bodyguard or backup who used to work for them 892 00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:42,076 was so infuriated once, he fired a gun into a tree, 893 00:42:42,111 --> 00:42:43,837 you know, fired a bullet into a tree 894 00:42:43,871 --> 00:42:45,355 and said if those two boys had been born 895 00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:47,323 in the council estates in South London, 896 00:42:47,357 --> 00:42:48,738 they'd be in care by now 897 00:42:48,773 --> 00:42:51,223 because they used to just run amok. 898 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,020 - But the Prince of Wales, he acknowledged 899 00:42:55,055 --> 00:42:57,298 that his two children were much happier doing what 900 00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,749 Diana would arrange for them... 901 00:42:59,784 --> 00:43:02,649 ♪ 902 00:43:02,683 --> 00:43:04,858 the go-karting, the theme parks, 903 00:43:04,892 --> 00:43:07,999 the adventure holidays, something that he 904 00:43:08,033 --> 00:43:10,173 wouldn't even think about. 905 00:43:11,968 --> 00:43:14,488 Yes, he did take his sons on historical journeys 906 00:43:14,522 --> 00:43:18,009 to friends of his, but they found at that particular time, 907 00:43:18,043 --> 00:43:20,356 you know, being with their father rather boring 908 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:22,289 and not as exciting as in the fun 909 00:43:22,323 --> 00:43:24,671 that their mother could generate. 910 00:43:24,705 --> 00:43:28,951 ♪ 911 00:43:28,985 --> 00:43:32,161 - I think Charles as a father was 912 00:43:32,195 --> 00:43:35,543 probably more hands-on than his mother 913 00:43:35,578 --> 00:43:37,580 or father had been with him. 914 00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:42,654 But fundamentally, one parents as one is parented. 915 00:43:42,689 --> 00:43:45,692 And his parents were pretty aloof. 916 00:43:45,726 --> 00:43:49,972 He wasn't totally stiff and cold, 917 00:43:50,006 --> 00:43:54,908 but his life has always been work first probably 918 00:43:54,942 --> 00:43:56,703 and family second. 919 00:43:56,737 --> 00:44:00,258 The bottom line really is that the Prince of Wales 920 00:44:00,292 --> 00:44:03,054 was a workaholic. 921 00:44:06,333 --> 00:44:08,438 - One particular morning, I got a phone call, 922 00:44:08,473 --> 00:44:10,924 and Diana said, "Can you come and see me?" 923 00:44:10,958 --> 00:44:12,684 She said, "I just wanted to let you know, Ken. 924 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,791 "I wanted to tell you all about my relationship, 925 00:44:15,825 --> 00:44:20,381 both with my husband and at that time with James Hewitt." 926 00:44:22,142 --> 00:44:23,833 She told me about the relationship 927 00:44:23,868 --> 00:44:26,353 that her husband was having with Camilla. 928 00:44:26,387 --> 00:44:29,908 I remember asking--I said, "Do you love the Prince of Wales?" 929 00:44:29,943 --> 00:44:31,323 She said, "Yes, of course I do. 930 00:44:31,358 --> 00:44:34,119 Otherwise, I wouldn't be here." 931 00:44:36,328 --> 00:44:39,469 And it was clear to me that the Camilla issue 932 00:44:39,504 --> 00:44:42,265 was there from the very beginning. 933 00:44:43,542 --> 00:44:47,132 And Diana was trying desperately to work out how 934 00:44:47,167 --> 00:44:48,996 she was going to resolve this. 935 00:44:49,031 --> 00:44:52,275 But of course, the matter was never resolved. 936 00:44:52,310 --> 00:44:54,726 And understandably, there was much hatred 937 00:44:54,761 --> 00:44:56,935 for this other woman. 938 00:45:00,456 --> 00:45:02,596 - Squadron Leader Graham Laurie. 939 00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:08,464 From 1981 until 2000, I was the prince's personal pilot. 940 00:45:10,362 --> 00:45:15,195 I've flown him 760-odd times. 941 00:45:16,161 --> 00:45:20,269 As regards Camilla, I didn't ever fly her, 942 00:45:20,303 --> 00:45:25,101 but we did see her involvement in certain trips 943 00:45:25,136 --> 00:45:27,725 when we went abroad. 944 00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:30,969 There would be a civilian charter aircraft 945 00:45:31,004 --> 00:45:33,661 on the tarmac before we got there, 946 00:45:33,696 --> 00:45:37,182 and it was still there when we left. 947 00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:42,153 And I found out afterwards that actually Camilla 948 00:45:42,187 --> 00:45:45,639 had flown in and out on that aircraft. 949 00:45:45,673 --> 00:45:50,333 So they were obviously getting together overseas, 950 00:45:50,368 --> 00:45:53,509 but the press didn't cotton onto that. 951 00:45:53,543 --> 00:45:59,377 ♪ 952 00:45:59,411 --> 00:46:01,413 - I'm speaking now about all this 953 00:46:01,448 --> 00:46:04,037 because I've said nothing for 40 years. 954 00:46:04,071 --> 00:46:08,766 And I've just listened so often to lies, silly stories. 955 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,975 And it's quite frustrating. 956 00:46:11,009 --> 00:46:12,493 There are only a few of us 957 00:46:12,528 --> 00:46:14,668 that can say what really happened. 958 00:46:14,702 --> 00:46:17,844 And I decided that my time might be coming to an end, 959 00:46:17,878 --> 00:46:21,019 so I'm going to do it now. 960 00:46:21,054 --> 00:46:22,607 My name is Allan Peters, 961 00:46:22,641 --> 00:46:25,265 and I worked as a royalty protection officer 962 00:46:25,299 --> 00:46:27,370 for the Prince of Wales, and then subsequently, 963 00:46:27,405 --> 00:46:29,890 to the Princess of Wales for nine years. 964 00:46:32,099 --> 00:46:34,861 There was a team of three protection officers 965 00:46:34,895 --> 00:46:36,379 with the Prince of Wales, 966 00:46:36,414 --> 00:46:39,313 two of us with the Princess of Wales. 967 00:46:39,348 --> 00:46:42,351 And then there was a small team of what we called baby men, 968 00:46:42,385 --> 00:46:44,387 who were the protection officers 969 00:46:44,422 --> 00:46:46,769 who looked after William and Harry. 970 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,634 And Barry Mannakee was one of those baby men, 971 00:46:49,668 --> 00:46:51,636 as we called him. 972 00:46:59,264 --> 00:47:01,922 Harry must have been about a year old, 973 00:47:01,957 --> 00:47:03,993 something like that. 974 00:47:05,167 --> 00:47:08,584 And on one occasion, we did use Barry Mannakee 975 00:47:08,618 --> 00:47:13,554 to go with her for four or five days up to Scotland. 976 00:47:15,487 --> 00:47:19,457 And when they came back from that trip, 977 00:47:19,491 --> 00:47:23,771 I started to notice her conduct in the presence 978 00:47:23,806 --> 00:47:27,948 of Mannakee getting more and more strange-- 979 00:47:27,983 --> 00:47:30,019 what she wore, how she behaved, 980 00:47:30,054 --> 00:47:33,851 and so on and so forth. 981 00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:37,440 [dramatic orchestral music] 982 00:47:37,475 --> 00:47:40,650 It was clear that something had gone on. 983 00:47:40,685 --> 00:47:44,240 So I took it upon myself to challenge her 984 00:47:44,275 --> 00:47:47,347 of what I'd seen, and she eventually agreed. 985 00:47:47,381 --> 00:47:49,142 Oh, yes. It's all so wonderful. 986 00:47:49,176 --> 00:47:52,490 He's so marvelous. 987 00:47:52,524 --> 00:47:55,631 As far as I can ascertain, they were having an affair. 988 00:47:55,665 --> 00:47:58,634 ♪ 989 00:47:58,668 --> 00:48:00,878 We had this lengthy conversation, 990 00:48:00,912 --> 00:48:05,192 trying to explain it was a recipe for disaster. 991 00:48:05,227 --> 00:48:07,988 The thing was to try and help it 992 00:48:08,023 --> 00:48:10,577 to stop before it got too bad. 993 00:48:10,611 --> 00:48:13,994 Because as I explained to her, she would lose the marriage, 994 00:48:14,029 --> 00:48:16,790 lose the boys, lose everything. 995 00:48:18,723 --> 00:48:21,243 We were trying to move Mannakee on 996 00:48:21,277 --> 00:48:25,109 to get him away, but it was quite difficult. 997 00:48:25,143 --> 00:48:28,698 ♪ 998 00:48:28,733 --> 00:48:30,908 When Barry Mannakee was told that he 999 00:48:30,942 --> 00:48:34,877 was being transferred out, he obviously rang her 1000 00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:37,086 on a direct line. 1001 00:48:37,984 --> 00:48:40,538 And I was in my office at Kensington Palace, 1002 00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:42,712 and the first thing I knew was 1003 00:48:42,747 --> 00:48:44,956 she was in the doorway throwing her shoes 1004 00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:46,889 at the back of my head, 1005 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:52,136 upset because she was putting the blame on me. 1006 00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:53,620 She was distraught, 1007 00:48:53,654 --> 00:48:57,037 and life was quite difficult for everybody. 1008 00:48:57,072 --> 00:48:59,729 ♪ 1009 00:48:59,764 --> 00:49:01,628 On one occasion when we got back-- 1010 00:49:01,662 --> 00:49:03,733 I think it was a black tie engagement or something. 1011 00:49:03,768 --> 00:49:06,495 And she got out of the car, ran inside, 1012 00:49:06,529 --> 00:49:09,429 and disappeared upstairs. 1013 00:49:09,463 --> 00:49:11,396 And the prince said to me, 1014 00:49:11,431 --> 00:49:13,640 "What on earth is the matter with her?" 1015 00:49:13,674 --> 00:49:17,161 And I said, "Well, I probably can't help you, sir," 1016 00:49:17,195 --> 00:49:19,853 because I didn't want to explain. 1017 00:49:19,887 --> 00:49:24,271 ♪ 1018 00:49:24,306 --> 00:49:26,170 And eventually, he said, "Well, the only thing 1019 00:49:26,204 --> 00:49:28,103 "that seems to be upsetting her 1020 00:49:28,137 --> 00:49:31,761 "is that Barry Mannakee is leaving. 1021 00:49:31,796 --> 00:49:33,453 "And if that's the case, 1022 00:49:33,487 --> 00:49:36,007 "I'll say that he doesn't need to leave. 1023 00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:37,526 He can stay." 1024 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,287 And at that point, I felt I had to say, 1025 00:49:40,322 --> 00:49:44,188 "Well, if he stays, sir, then I can't stay. 1026 00:49:44,222 --> 00:49:46,880 He has to go." 1027 00:49:46,914 --> 00:49:50,815 And I think that point, the penny may have dropped 1028 00:49:50,849 --> 00:49:52,610 as to what was happening. 1029 00:49:52,644 --> 00:49:57,822 And he never said another word and turned and left. 1030 00:50:00,135 --> 00:50:03,759 I can categorically say that the first person that strayed 1031 00:50:03,793 --> 00:50:06,486 in the marriage was the Princess of Wales, 1032 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,318 and he didn't until after he knew 1033 00:50:11,353 --> 00:50:14,218 she had strayed. 1034 00:50:18,429 --> 00:50:21,673 - Do your tastes coincide? 1035 00:50:21,708 --> 00:50:23,882 - On what, pop music? - Pop music. 1036 00:50:23,917 --> 00:50:27,024 - Well, yes, sometimes, yes. Not always. 1037 00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:28,887 - [laughing] - I mean... 1038 00:50:28,922 --> 00:50:33,513 - They were two people who had nothing 1039 00:50:33,547 --> 00:50:36,309 on which to build a relationship. 1040 00:50:37,965 --> 00:50:40,692 Charles and Diana had an age gap 1041 00:50:40,727 --> 00:50:42,867 that seemed even wider than it was 1042 00:50:42,901 --> 00:50:45,766 because they had nothing in common. 1043 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,255 She hated Balmoral. She hated shooting. 1044 00:50:51,289 --> 00:50:52,566 She hated hunting. 1045 00:50:52,601 --> 00:50:54,396 She liked being in London, 1046 00:50:54,430 --> 00:50:56,639 having lunch in Tallinn restaurants 1047 00:50:56,674 --> 00:50:58,986 and Knightsbridge with girlfriends, 1048 00:50:59,021 --> 00:51:00,988 shopping, pop music. 1049 00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:02,714 Charles liked classical and opera. 1050 00:51:02,749 --> 00:51:04,061 She couldn't stand it. 1051 00:51:04,095 --> 00:51:07,374 It's worse than chalk and cheese. 1052 00:51:07,409 --> 00:51:13,484 ♪ 1053 00:51:13,518 --> 00:51:15,106 - We would speak on the telephone all the time. 1054 00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:16,970 He did say that it was very volatile. 1055 00:51:17,004 --> 00:51:18,903 He said that they thought she had bulimia at that point. 1056 00:51:18,937 --> 00:51:22,803 And he said, you know, she threw herself down the stairs. 1057 00:51:24,978 --> 00:51:26,669 Said, you know, she would be crying in the bathroom. 1058 00:51:26,704 --> 00:51:28,257 And William would be trying to put Kleenex 1059 00:51:28,292 --> 00:51:30,259 underneath the door, saying, "Mummy, it's OK." 1060 00:51:30,294 --> 00:51:33,573 That's traumatic for any child to see that instability. 1061 00:51:33,607 --> 00:51:36,265 So he was very worried about that. 1062 00:51:38,681 --> 00:51:41,270 He did say to me that he hoped that the children would 1063 00:51:41,305 --> 00:51:43,755 remember that when, you know, she'd be yelling and screaming 1064 00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:45,481 at him that he didn't yell and scream back, 1065 00:51:45,516 --> 00:51:48,070 that he was trying to be the voice of reason. 1066 00:51:50,797 --> 00:51:53,731 - All her things were a cry of help. 1067 00:51:53,765 --> 00:51:56,389 I just think it was alien to him. 1068 00:51:56,423 --> 00:51:59,564 It just hadn't been in his orbit before. 1069 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,395 And probably he just didn't understand. 1070 00:52:03,465 --> 00:52:06,053 - He's not a temperament that can handle that kind of drama. 1071 00:52:06,088 --> 00:52:07,538 It was very alien to him. 1072 00:52:07,572 --> 00:52:09,505 I mean, you really did not do that kind of thing. 1073 00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:10,886 And you had a stiff upper lip, 1074 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,819 and you had a certain demeanor. 1075 00:52:12,853 --> 00:52:14,476 He wasn't good at that time 1076 00:52:14,510 --> 00:52:17,341 with a lot of raw emotion like this. 1077 00:52:20,516 --> 00:52:23,485 [soft music] 1078 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:27,523 ♪ 1079 00:52:27,558 --> 00:52:31,769 - Late '80s, I was at a friend's wedding, 1080 00:52:31,803 --> 00:52:35,497 and it was then that people really started talking 1081 00:52:35,531 --> 00:52:41,054 talking about Charles and Diana and how bad the marriage was. 1082 00:52:42,642 --> 00:52:44,506 There were two camps, 1083 00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:47,129 those who really supported Charles 1084 00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:49,718 and said Diana was mad, 1085 00:52:49,752 --> 00:52:51,685 and then there was another camp 1086 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:55,206 who were more sympathetic to Diana and said 1087 00:52:55,241 --> 00:52:58,209 that she'd been far too young when she was married 1088 00:52:58,244 --> 00:53:00,729 into the royal family, and it would be enough 1089 00:53:00,763 --> 00:53:02,765 to unbalance anybody. 1090 00:53:04,491 --> 00:53:09,047 As for me, I was torn because I met Diana quite a lot, 1091 00:53:09,082 --> 00:53:10,532 and I liked her. 1092 00:53:10,566 --> 00:53:12,775 You couldn't help but like her. 1093 00:53:14,605 --> 00:53:17,159 The marriage was effectively over. 1094 00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:18,747 They didn't live together. 1095 00:53:18,781 --> 00:53:21,128 They didn't sleep together. 1096 00:53:21,163 --> 00:53:22,923 It was a dead marriage. 1097 00:53:22,958 --> 00:53:28,274 And Diana was doing her own thing with various boyfriends. 1098 00:53:28,308 --> 00:53:31,415 - By the late '80s, what Charles was after 1099 00:53:31,449 --> 00:53:34,556 was what, to some extent, they had, 1100 00:53:34,590 --> 00:53:37,559 which was to lead separate lives 1101 00:53:37,593 --> 00:53:40,147 but stay together for the sake of the country 1102 00:53:40,182 --> 00:53:42,149 and of their children. 1103 00:53:42,184 --> 00:53:44,255 This is the way that aristocratic families 1104 00:53:44,290 --> 00:53:47,120 have managed their estates for generations. 1105 00:53:47,154 --> 00:53:49,812 If the marriage isn't as happy as it might be, 1106 00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:53,160 they go off and they find love interest elsewhere, 1107 00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:54,886 but they stay together. 1108 00:53:54,921 --> 00:53:57,441 But Diana didn't want that. 1109 00:53:57,475 --> 00:54:01,824 Diana wanted the world to know that she was unhappy. 1110 00:54:01,859 --> 00:54:05,276 [dramatic orchestral music] 1111 00:54:05,311 --> 00:54:07,761 - As the Princess of Wales delivered Prince Harry 1112 00:54:07,796 --> 00:54:09,315 to his school this morning, 1113 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:11,075 the author of the book which claims to expose 1114 00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:13,146 the real state of her marriage said he left 1115 00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:15,148 very strong material out of his account 1116 00:54:15,182 --> 00:54:17,150 because it would have revealed the identity 1117 00:54:17,184 --> 00:54:18,876 of several key sources. 1118 00:54:18,910 --> 00:54:20,843 The book, due to go on sale tomorrow, 1119 00:54:20,878 --> 00:54:23,087 claims she made several attempts on her life. 1120 00:54:23,121 --> 00:54:25,917 The author, Andrew Morton, at the center of the storm 1121 00:54:25,952 --> 00:54:27,988 has warned today that the Princess of Wales 1122 00:54:28,023 --> 00:54:31,544 now needs help and understanding. 1123 00:54:31,578 --> 00:54:35,133 - I think her own involvement with Andrew Morton 1124 00:54:35,168 --> 00:54:36,928 in her book "Diana: Her True Story" 1125 00:54:36,963 --> 00:54:39,034 was effectively her biography. 1126 00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:41,105 And what we got was the truth. 1127 00:54:41,139 --> 00:54:48,215 ♪ 1128 00:54:57,224 --> 00:55:00,883 - Morton's book is the most one-sided divorce petition 1129 00:55:00,918 --> 00:55:02,333 almost in history. 1130 00:55:02,368 --> 00:55:04,922 It's almost saint, sinner, and that's it. 1131 00:55:04,956 --> 00:55:06,613 Diana was no saint. 1132 00:55:06,648 --> 00:55:09,236 Diana had been having affairs 1133 00:55:09,271 --> 00:55:11,308 same as Charles was having affairs. 1134 00:55:13,068 --> 00:55:17,693 - How would anybody feel if their wife exposed 1135 00:55:17,728 --> 00:55:19,246 every last detail about them, 1136 00:55:19,281 --> 00:55:22,215 particularly from a position of fury? 1137 00:55:22,249 --> 00:55:25,391 I think Charles found the Andrew Morton book 1138 00:55:25,425 --> 00:55:28,877 very wounding, and hurtful, 1139 00:55:28,911 --> 00:55:32,052 and damaging to his reputation. 1140 00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:38,611 - "The Six O'Clock News" from the BBC 1141 00:55:38,645 --> 00:55:42,925 with Anna Ford and Chris Lowe. 1142 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,134 - Good evening. The headlines at 6:00. 1143 00:55:45,169 --> 00:55:47,999 The Prince and Princess of Wales are to separate, 1144 00:55:48,034 --> 00:55:50,243 but they do not plan to divorce. 1145 00:55:50,277 --> 00:55:53,246 [tense music] 1146 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,768 ♪ 1147 00:55:57,802 --> 00:56:00,771 - I always think there's a camera now, always, 1148 00:56:00,805 --> 00:56:02,669 or something like a camera. 1149 00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:04,844 And worse than you-- 1150 00:56:04,878 --> 00:56:06,949 it's extraordinary how now you feel-- 1151 00:56:06,984 --> 00:56:09,020 I do, anyway-- that wherever you are, 1152 00:56:09,055 --> 00:56:11,954 there's somebody hiding behind something somewhere. 1153 00:56:11,989 --> 00:56:15,233 I'm quite a sort of private person. 1154 00:56:15,268 --> 00:56:19,755 I'm not prepared to just perform 1155 00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:23,000 whenever they want me to perform. 1156 00:56:23,034 --> 00:56:27,004 - Charles did an interview with Dimbleby 1157 00:56:27,038 --> 00:56:30,525 after the Morton book was published. 1158 00:56:31,526 --> 00:56:37,048 I think he wanted to justify his relationship with Camilla. 1159 00:56:37,083 --> 00:56:40,500 And he wants to point out that they'd only started 1160 00:56:40,535 --> 00:56:44,055 seeing each other again after the marriage to Diana 1161 00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:47,334 was effectively over and dead. 1162 00:56:47,369 --> 00:56:51,200 - Mrs. Parker Bowles is a great friend of mine. 1163 00:56:51,235 --> 00:56:54,549 Most people probably would realize that when marriages 1164 00:56:54,583 --> 00:56:59,243 break down, awful and miserable as that is, 1165 00:56:59,277 --> 00:57:01,832 that so often, you know, that it is your friends 1166 00:57:01,866 --> 00:57:05,732 who are the most important, and helpful, 1167 00:57:05,767 --> 00:57:08,286 understanding, and encouraging. 1168 00:57:08,321 --> 00:57:11,600 Otherwise, you would go stark raving mad. 1169 00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:16,260 - Did you try to be faithful and honorable to your wife 1170 00:57:16,294 --> 00:57:19,366 when you took on the vow of marriage? 1171 00:57:19,401 --> 00:57:22,439 - Yes, absolutely. 1172 00:57:22,473 --> 00:57:23,578 - And you were? 1173 00:57:23,612 --> 00:57:25,442 - Yes. 1174 00:57:26,304 --> 00:57:32,034 Until it became irretrievably broken down, 1175 00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:34,243 us both having tried. 1176 00:57:34,278 --> 00:57:36,211 - Shouldn't have done the interview, 1177 00:57:36,245 --> 00:57:37,868 like I probably shouldn't be doing this, 1178 00:57:37,902 --> 00:57:42,459 but he shouldn't have done the interview, really. 1179 00:57:42,493 --> 00:57:46,117 When she did the interview, she was still his wife. 1180 00:57:46,152 --> 00:57:48,050 - But his was before hers. 1181 00:57:48,085 --> 00:57:50,259 - Oh, was it? - Yeah. 1182 00:57:50,294 --> 00:57:52,952 That was '95. This is '94. 1183 00:57:52,986 --> 00:57:58,475 - So did he admit in this that he had extramarital-- 1184 00:57:58,509 --> 00:58:00,477 what an idiot. 1185 00:58:00,511 --> 00:58:03,756 ♪ 1186 00:58:03,790 --> 00:58:06,448 - There's no dispute that Charles was in a relationship 1187 00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:11,073 with Camilla as a married woman before they married in '81. 1188 00:58:11,108 --> 00:58:13,800 Diana tells me that that relationship continued 1189 00:58:13,835 --> 00:58:16,838 right through their marriage. 1190 00:58:16,872 --> 00:58:19,219 It suits the prince obviously, the king he is now, 1191 00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:21,774 to say that that wasn't the case. 1192 00:58:21,808 --> 00:58:26,537 From my own observation, I have no reason to disbelieve Diana. 1193 00:58:26,572 --> 00:58:29,644 - His marriage had irretrievably broken down 1194 00:58:29,678 --> 00:58:33,475 because he understood what was happening. 1195 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,134 The Princess of Wales, her relationship with Mannakee 1196 00:58:37,168 --> 00:58:39,619 was clearly inappropriate. 1197 00:58:39,654 --> 00:58:43,865 With him, it's about loyalty, and he'd been betrayed. 1198 00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:48,490 But also, he never told the truth. 1199 00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:51,148 He protected his sons from that. 1200 00:58:51,182 --> 00:58:55,221 And that is to be admired greatly, I think. 1201 00:58:58,914 --> 00:59:01,365 [dramatic orchestral music] 1202 00:59:01,399 --> 00:59:03,574 - It's the interview that stunned the nation. 1203 00:59:03,609 --> 00:59:06,335 Last night, more than 21 million viewers 1204 00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:08,096 heard Diana admit adultery, 1205 00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:09,580 as well as discussing her bulimia, 1206 00:59:09,615 --> 00:59:12,549 self-mutilation, and post-natal depression. 1207 00:59:12,583 --> 00:59:14,378 She went on to express her opinions 1208 00:59:14,412 --> 00:59:16,587 on Charles, Camilla, and her efforts 1209 00:59:16,622 --> 00:59:18,451 to make her marriage work. 1210 00:59:18,485 --> 00:59:20,177 ♪ 1211 00:59:20,211 --> 00:59:21,661 - To do that to a beautiful woman 1212 00:59:21,696 --> 00:59:23,352 and take no notice of her cries for help 1213 00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:24,664 or whatever she's going through, 1214 00:59:24,699 --> 00:59:26,528 I thought is just disgusting. 1215 00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:29,842 Charles, I've got no respect for that man at all now. 1216 00:59:29,876 --> 00:59:32,430 - She's fighting to get her way. 1217 00:59:32,465 --> 00:59:33,466 Good luck to her. 1218 00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:35,537 [reporters clamoring] 1219 00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:37,539 - The most hurtful parts for him 1220 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:40,473 would have been the accusation that he was a bad father 1221 00:59:40,507 --> 00:59:43,925 and that he possibly should not become king. 1222 00:59:45,271 --> 00:59:48,515 That he wasn't fit for the top job, I think, 1223 00:59:48,550 --> 00:59:50,725 must have been incredibly hurtful 1224 00:59:50,759 --> 00:59:56,075 and frustrating because he was never going to retaliate. 1225 00:59:56,109 --> 00:59:57,421 He never would. 1226 00:59:57,455 --> 01:00:01,632 So here he was, powerless and humiliated. 1227 01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:04,393 [cheers and applause] 1228 01:00:04,428 --> 01:00:08,466 - Neither Diana or Charles thought about their children. 1229 01:00:11,297 --> 01:00:13,023 And, I mean, when you give those interviews, 1230 01:00:13,057 --> 01:00:14,438 do you think about the repercussions 1231 01:00:14,472 --> 01:00:15,646 on your children, maybe not now, 1232 01:00:15,681 --> 01:00:17,303 but when they're older? 1233 01:00:17,337 --> 01:00:19,926 I mean, those books and that interview is there forever. 1234 01:00:19,961 --> 01:00:23,309 And so you have to be so aware of what you're saying. 1235 01:00:25,656 --> 01:00:27,624 - William and Harry through their early days 1236 01:00:27,658 --> 01:00:31,075 in the '80s would be blissfully unaware 1237 01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:33,664 of the personal complications, 1238 01:00:33,699 --> 01:00:38,186 Hewitt with Diana and Camilla with their father. 1239 01:00:39,221 --> 01:00:40,775 But of course, as you get older 1240 01:00:40,809 --> 01:00:42,639 and through into their teens, 1241 01:00:42,673 --> 01:00:44,226 you know, they would have become aware, 1242 01:00:44,261 --> 01:00:46,643 obviously, of the relationship 1243 01:00:46,677 --> 01:00:49,542 that their mother had and father had. 1244 01:00:49,576 --> 01:00:52,545 [tense music] 1245 01:00:52,579 --> 01:00:58,965 ♪ 1246 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,451 - Her former husband may be adopting a low profile. 1247 01:01:02,486 --> 01:01:05,247 There is no sign that Diana, Princess of Wales, 1248 01:01:05,282 --> 01:01:10,011 will do so as she heads off into a new and uncertain life. 1249 01:01:13,842 --> 01:01:17,052 [ambulance siren blaring] 1250 01:01:19,537 --> 01:01:22,851 ♪ 1251 01:01:22,886 --> 01:01:25,682 - Diana, Princess of Wales, has died in a car accident 1252 01:01:25,716 --> 01:01:29,686 in Paris, which also killed her companion, Dodi Fayed. 1253 01:01:31,066 --> 01:01:33,206 The Prince of Wales, on holiday at Balmoral 1254 01:01:33,241 --> 01:01:34,898 with his sons William and Harry, 1255 01:01:34,932 --> 01:01:36,727 he has been informed. 1256 01:01:36,762 --> 01:01:38,902 Grimly woken in the middle of the night 1257 01:01:38,936 --> 01:01:41,594 with just the most awful news. 1258 01:01:41,628 --> 01:01:43,527 - Buckingham Palace spokesperson 1259 01:01:43,561 --> 01:01:46,564 has just announced that the queen and the Prince of Wales, 1260 01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,429 she said, are deeply shocked and distressed 1261 01:01:49,464 --> 01:01:51,708 by this terrible news. 1262 01:01:51,742 --> 01:01:57,748 ♪ 1263 01:02:00,786 --> 01:02:03,789 - At about 10:00, we suddenly got a phone call 1264 01:02:03,823 --> 01:02:06,999 to say, you may be bringing the body of the princess 1265 01:02:07,033 --> 01:02:09,898 back to Northolt with the prince. 1266 01:02:09,933 --> 01:02:11,624 [soft music] 1267 01:02:11,658 --> 01:02:14,627 And if there were ever one I wanted to make, 1268 01:02:14,661 --> 01:02:15,766 it was this one. 1269 01:02:15,801 --> 01:02:18,700 I'd flown the princess over 200 times. 1270 01:02:18,735 --> 01:02:24,085 So in a way, I was proud to do this trip, her final trip. 1271 01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:29,435 ♪ 1272 01:02:29,469 --> 01:02:32,921 When we got to Aberdeen to pick up the prince, 1273 01:02:32,956 --> 01:02:34,198 he didn't come up front. 1274 01:02:34,233 --> 01:02:35,786 He just sat down. 1275 01:02:35,821 --> 01:02:39,100 I didn't see him at all on the way out to Paris. 1276 01:02:39,134 --> 01:02:46,314 ♪ 1277 01:02:55,668 --> 01:03:00,500 When I first saw the coffin, 1278 01:03:00,535 --> 01:03:05,851 that's when really the sadness started to come in. 1279 01:03:05,885 --> 01:03:08,957 ♪ 1280 01:03:08,992 --> 01:03:14,307 You realize that that life had ended, and there it was. 1281 01:03:14,342 --> 01:03:16,654 It was horrific. 1282 01:03:16,689 --> 01:03:23,523 ♪ 1283 01:03:23,558 --> 01:03:25,698 I always remember taking off 1284 01:03:25,732 --> 01:03:28,908 into a wonderful golden sunset. 1285 01:03:28,943 --> 01:03:33,016 It was a moment I will always treasure 1286 01:03:33,050 --> 01:03:36,157 because it was her final flight. 1287 01:03:36,191 --> 01:03:43,371 ♪ 1288 01:03:46,961 --> 01:03:49,722 When we landed, I know, as he went down the back, 1289 01:03:49,756 --> 01:03:52,242 he thanked all the crew as he went back. 1290 01:03:52,276 --> 01:03:55,624 And I thought, that's the measure of the man. 1291 01:03:55,659 --> 01:04:00,319 After such a shocking day, he still had time 1292 01:04:00,353 --> 01:04:04,116 to do the thank yous as well. 1293 01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:10,570 ♪ 1294 01:04:11,917 --> 01:04:13,642 - One thing the public don't realize 1295 01:04:13,677 --> 01:04:16,576 is that during the last year of Diana's life, 1296 01:04:16,611 --> 01:04:21,754 Charles and Diana had reconciled as friends 1297 01:04:21,788 --> 01:04:24,930 and had actually managed to create this friendship 1298 01:04:24,964 --> 01:04:27,691 that they'd never created when they were married. 1299 01:04:31,937 --> 01:04:35,630 Charles was devastated when she died. 1300 01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:38,598 I mean, I heard that he spent hours in France 1301 01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:43,949 with her body, crying, and he was devastated. 1302 01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:49,540 And then he had to deal with his sons. 1303 01:04:53,475 --> 01:04:55,029 - He was terrified for his sons. 1304 01:04:55,063 --> 01:04:58,135 How would they cope without a mother? 1305 01:04:58,170 --> 01:04:59,861 How would the whole thing play out? 1306 01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:02,208 And I think he immediately recognized 1307 01:05:02,243 --> 01:05:05,211 that he probably would be blamed 1308 01:05:05,246 --> 01:05:08,490 for her death in some way. 1309 01:05:17,016 --> 01:05:18,431 - Does it smell? 1310 01:05:18,466 --> 01:05:22,919 - As an author, journalist, I just wanted to get 1311 01:05:22,953 --> 01:05:24,472 to get to the bottom of this man 1312 01:05:24,506 --> 01:05:27,026 who was born to be king. 1313 01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:32,652 That took a couple of years to pin down, 1314 01:05:32,687 --> 01:05:35,207 but it was a couple of years in which they gave me 1315 01:05:35,241 --> 01:05:37,347 very good access to him. 1316 01:05:37,381 --> 01:05:41,385 And I really got to know him. 1317 01:05:42,248 --> 01:05:45,700 - People thought that he was this dry, old stick. 1318 01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:47,736 The funny thing is, he's actually one 1319 01:05:47,771 --> 01:05:50,739 of the most emotional people I've ever met. 1320 01:05:55,123 --> 01:05:57,539 After Diana died, 1321 01:05:57,574 --> 01:06:02,924 Camilla's negative popularity was so severe 1322 01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:05,237 that it was actually almost dangerous 1323 01:06:05,271 --> 01:06:07,791 for her to appear in public. 1324 01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:11,898 And yet, he was determined 1325 01:06:11,933 --> 01:06:15,005 that she should be part of his life. 1326 01:06:16,075 --> 01:06:20,562 There was a very deliberate PR campaign 1327 01:06:20,597 --> 01:06:23,841 to make her acceptable to the world. 1328 01:06:26,534 --> 01:06:28,846 - He called in Mark Bolland, 1329 01:06:28,881 --> 01:06:32,022 who was a young, clever public relations guru, 1330 01:06:32,057 --> 01:06:36,509 to handle this operation Mrs. PB, as it was called, 1331 01:06:36,544 --> 01:06:40,306 to try to get acceptance of Camilla publicly. 1332 01:06:40,341 --> 01:06:42,481 [cameras snapping] 1333 01:06:42,515 --> 01:06:45,484 [tense music] 1334 01:06:45,518 --> 01:06:47,520 ♪ 1335 01:06:47,555 --> 01:06:50,937 Two years after Diana's death, the Ritz was the moment 1336 01:06:50,972 --> 01:06:54,458 when Camilla stepped out into the public limelight-- 1337 01:06:54,493 --> 01:06:56,702 the flashes going off, the hundreds of photographers 1338 01:06:56,736 --> 01:06:59,084 on ladders and whatever outside. 1339 01:06:59,118 --> 01:07:02,294 It was Camilla's sister's birthday party, 1340 01:07:02,328 --> 01:07:03,536 and it was the first time 1341 01:07:03,571 --> 01:07:05,469 they'd been photographed together. 1342 01:07:05,504 --> 01:07:08,645 [cheers and applause] 1343 01:07:11,337 --> 01:07:13,788 - How much involvement did he actually have in it? 1344 01:07:13,822 --> 01:07:15,962 - I'm told that he planned this himself. 1345 01:07:15,997 --> 01:07:17,895 He decided enough was enough. 1346 01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:20,174 They're fed up sneaking around. 1347 01:07:20,208 --> 01:07:21,796 And tonight was the night. 1348 01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:23,280 - Everyone knew it was going to happen. 1349 01:07:23,315 --> 01:07:26,387 It was tipped off, and it was an arranged moment. 1350 01:07:26,421 --> 01:07:29,355 But it was a moment that allowed her 1351 01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:32,186 to step out in public. 1352 01:07:33,118 --> 01:07:35,706 - I believe that the British people were warming 1353 01:07:35,741 --> 01:07:39,227 to Camilla, but I think at that point, 1354 01:07:39,262 --> 01:07:43,093 I would have said that marriage between Charles and Camilla 1355 01:07:43,128 --> 01:07:45,923 was never going to happen 1356 01:07:45,958 --> 01:07:49,065 unless William and Harry accepted her, 1357 01:07:49,099 --> 01:07:51,998 very publicly accepted her. 1358 01:07:52,033 --> 01:07:57,073 ♪ 1359 01:07:57,107 --> 01:07:59,040 - The woman that Diana had been 1360 01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:00,869 crying her eyes out about-- 1361 01:08:00,904 --> 01:08:02,354 and she called her Rottweiler-- 1362 01:08:02,388 --> 01:08:04,287 very difficult then to get your sons, 1363 01:08:04,321 --> 01:08:07,117 the sons of Diana, to in any way warm 1364 01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:09,050 to this woman because they would have 1365 01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:13,019 had a particular image of her. 1366 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,712 - But Charles went on, 1367 01:08:16,747 --> 01:08:20,544 and he proposed to Camilla anyway. 1368 01:08:21,821 --> 01:08:24,064 - Buckingham Palace has this afternoon 1369 01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,412 announced the engagement of Prince Charles 1370 01:08:26,447 --> 01:08:28,863 to Camilla Parker Bowles. 1371 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:42,670 - There had remained great hostility 1372 01:08:42,703 --> 01:08:46,466 about Charles' relationship with Camilla. 1373 01:08:46,501 --> 01:08:50,712 Camilla was always the villain in the picture 1374 01:08:50,747 --> 01:08:53,853 as far as the tabloids were concerned. 1375 01:08:57,443 --> 01:09:00,412 [soft piano music] 1376 01:09:00,446 --> 01:09:07,246 ♪ 1377 01:09:07,281 --> 01:09:10,180 - Come down on the right please. 1378 01:09:10,215 --> 01:09:11,768 - What do you mean? 1379 01:09:11,801 --> 01:09:13,425 - What have we done wrong? 1380 01:09:13,459 --> 01:09:15,185 [laughter] - I'm coming up. 1381 01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:16,703 Give me your hand. 1382 01:09:16,738 --> 01:09:18,877 [grunts] 1383 01:09:18,912 --> 01:09:21,846 - They've got it very carefully planned, I see. 1384 01:09:21,881 --> 01:09:23,814 - Can I ask William and Harry 1385 01:09:23,849 --> 01:09:26,403 your feelings on the prospect of the marriage? 1386 01:09:26,438 --> 01:09:29,406 - Very happy, very pleased. 1387 01:09:29,441 --> 01:09:31,236 Be a good day. 1388 01:09:31,270 --> 01:09:33,962 - I think we all took that at face value. 1389 01:09:33,997 --> 01:09:38,863 And I would say that, for the public to see 1390 01:09:38,898 --> 01:09:42,729 that William and Harry accepted her went a good way 1391 01:09:42,764 --> 01:09:45,008 to jumping that hurdle. 1392 01:09:45,042 --> 01:09:48,563 - It was quite a long time until we actually heard 1393 01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:52,395 either William or Harry speaking for themselves. 1394 01:09:52,429 --> 01:09:55,432 ♪ 1395 01:09:56,295 --> 01:09:59,264 [upbeat music] 1396 01:09:59,298 --> 01:10:01,231 ♪ 1397 01:10:01,266 --> 01:10:05,856 - I believe that Camilla was very, very happy 1398 01:10:05,891 --> 01:10:09,032 to remain Charles' girlfriend. 1399 01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:13,899 I don't think Camilla was anxious to marry at all. 1400 01:10:13,933 --> 01:10:17,247 She wasn't interested in titles, or status, 1401 01:10:17,282 --> 01:10:21,286 or the clothes, or the palaces. 1402 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:22,942 And she wasn't a snob. 1403 01:10:22,977 --> 01:10:25,048 - Camilla, on the day of her wedding, 1404 01:10:25,082 --> 01:10:27,223 had no idea what the public reaction would be. 1405 01:10:27,257 --> 01:10:30,812 On that morning, she had to be prised out of bed 1406 01:10:30,847 --> 01:10:32,883 because she was so frightened. 1407 01:10:32,918 --> 01:10:34,782 She didn't know whether she would be booed 1408 01:10:34,816 --> 01:10:36,232 and have rotten eggs thrown at her. 1409 01:10:36,266 --> 01:10:38,303 None of them had any idea. 1410 01:10:38,337 --> 01:10:41,409 - But I think Charles desperately wanted 1411 01:10:41,444 --> 01:10:46,414 somebody who is publicly at his side 1412 01:10:46,449 --> 01:10:48,899 to kind of do his job. 1413 01:10:48,934 --> 01:10:52,248 And she's proved to be very, very good with him. 1414 01:10:52,282 --> 01:10:56,321 He's a much happier person. 1415 01:10:56,355 --> 01:10:59,496 - If they want to get together, then that's OK. 1416 01:10:59,531 --> 01:11:00,773 - Good luck to him. 1417 01:11:00,808 --> 01:11:01,843 I suppose he deserves a little bit 1418 01:11:01,878 --> 01:11:03,397 of happiness now, doesn't he? 1419 01:11:03,431 --> 01:11:05,433 - He has to be allowed to live his own life. 1420 01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:09,817 - People's views began to change a little bit. 1421 01:11:09,851 --> 01:11:13,130 I don't think they loved her by the time 1422 01:11:13,165 --> 01:11:15,719 Charles and Camilla got married, 1423 01:11:15,754 --> 01:11:17,928 but they didn't hate her. 1424 01:11:19,896 --> 01:11:21,794 [soft music] 1425 01:11:21,829 --> 01:11:24,797 [cheers and applause] 1426 01:11:24,832 --> 01:11:27,800 ♪ 1427 01:11:27,835 --> 01:11:29,630 all: ♪ Save the queen 1428 01:11:29,664 --> 01:11:33,634 ♪ 1429 01:11:33,668 --> 01:11:36,361 - The first thing that surprised me 1430 01:11:36,395 --> 01:11:38,155 was that he's funny. 1431 01:11:38,190 --> 01:11:40,468 - There'll be snow for the higher ground 1432 01:11:40,503 --> 01:11:42,712 of the Highlands and Aberdeenshire, 1433 01:11:42,746 --> 01:11:45,197 the potential for a few flurries over Balmoral-- 1434 01:11:45,231 --> 01:11:46,888 who the hell wrote the script? 1435 01:11:46,923 --> 01:11:48,925 As the afternoon goes on. 1436 01:11:48,959 --> 01:11:52,998 - I saw him absolutely in his pomp. 1437 01:11:53,032 --> 01:12:00,212 ♪ 1438 01:12:05,735 --> 01:12:09,532 He was finally in the marriage he wanted to be. 1439 01:12:09,566 --> 01:12:13,156 He was happy in his family life. 1440 01:12:20,232 --> 01:12:22,510 - Prince Harry is to marry his girlfriend, 1441 01:12:22,545 --> 01:12:25,858 the American actress Meghan Markle. 1442 01:12:25,893 --> 01:12:27,584 - I know she's not an aristocrat. 1443 01:12:27,619 --> 01:12:30,276 She's not from a European royal family. 1444 01:12:30,311 --> 01:12:33,314 She--I mean, she's thoroughly modern Meghan, you know. 1445 01:12:33,349 --> 01:12:35,730 She's everything perhaps we might not expect 1446 01:12:35,765 --> 01:12:37,732 of a royal bride. 1447 01:12:38,768 --> 01:12:41,046 - All the stars were aligned. Everything was just perfect. 1448 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,737 It was this beautiful woman 1449 01:12:42,772 --> 01:12:44,739 just sort of literally tripped and fell into my life. 1450 01:12:44,774 --> 01:12:47,397 And the fact that she-- 1451 01:12:47,432 --> 01:12:51,056 I know the fact that she'll be really unbelievably good 1452 01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:53,714 at the job part of it as well. 1453 01:12:53,748 --> 01:12:55,543 ♪ 1454 01:12:55,578 --> 01:12:58,684 - They recognized that Meghan was a huge asset. 1455 01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:00,652 Charles did see that. 1456 01:13:00,686 --> 01:13:04,276 And so I think Charles was genuinely 1457 01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:07,383 very welcoming to her. 1458 01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:09,350 - We're all absolutely delighted. 1459 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:11,801 As you can see, they're so happy. 1460 01:13:11,835 --> 01:13:15,287 It's a real joy to have a bit of good news for once. 1461 01:13:15,321 --> 01:13:17,910 [cheers and applause] 1462 01:13:17,945 --> 01:13:20,568 - As far as I know, Charles fell over himself 1463 01:13:20,603 --> 01:13:23,502 to welcome Meghan into the royal family. 1464 01:13:25,815 --> 01:13:30,682 I have more reservations about William and Kate. 1465 01:13:30,716 --> 01:13:34,064 There seemed to have been some tension. 1466 01:13:34,099 --> 01:13:36,066 But the rest of the family-- 1467 01:13:36,101 --> 01:13:38,310 I think Charles is utterly faultless 1468 01:13:38,344 --> 01:13:40,899 when it comes to his behavior towards Meghan. 1469 01:13:40,933 --> 01:13:42,314 I really do. 1470 01:13:42,348 --> 01:13:46,111 And they generally liked her. 1471 01:13:46,145 --> 01:13:49,114 I mean, that's what I heard anyway. 1472 01:13:49,148 --> 01:13:51,668 [dramatic music] 1473 01:13:51,703 --> 01:13:55,223 - What Meghan and Harry hadn't reckoned with 1474 01:13:55,258 --> 01:13:57,329 was two things really. 1475 01:13:57,363 --> 01:14:02,472 One was that the press, instead of welcoming her, 1476 01:14:02,507 --> 01:14:07,684 really were extraordinarily racist and misogynist. 1477 01:14:07,719 --> 01:14:09,410 It was shocking. 1478 01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:12,862 - My British friend said to me, "I'm sure he's great. 1479 01:14:12,896 --> 01:14:15,830 "But you shouldn't do it because the British tabloids 1480 01:14:15,865 --> 01:14:18,384 will destroy your life." 1481 01:14:18,419 --> 01:14:21,180 - But there was a culture clash. 1482 01:14:21,215 --> 01:14:25,944 To be a star in the Hollywood system 1483 01:14:25,978 --> 01:14:30,569 is always to be telling people what you want to do, 1484 01:14:30,604 --> 01:14:33,192 and to be a royal woman is always to be being told 1485 01:14:33,227 --> 01:14:34,746 what you can't do. 1486 01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:39,129 For her, that was a very rude awakening. 1487 01:14:40,096 --> 01:14:43,099 Meghan just wanted to be over there 1488 01:14:43,133 --> 01:14:47,552 and back in a world that she knows and understands. 1489 01:14:47,586 --> 01:14:49,277 Harry claims that there were 1490 01:14:49,312 --> 01:14:52,418 five different potential models 1491 01:14:52,453 --> 01:14:54,938 of how he and Meghan might continue 1492 01:14:54,973 --> 01:14:58,045 to work with the royal family: 1493 01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:01,393 The half in, half out model where they could have had 1494 01:15:01,427 --> 01:15:04,948 some kind of private, commercial existence 1495 01:15:04,983 --> 01:15:08,814 and still be doing royal duties. 1496 01:15:08,849 --> 01:15:10,575 - Harry honestly believed that he could 1497 01:15:10,609 --> 01:15:12,542 do six months here and six months there, 1498 01:15:12,577 --> 01:15:14,406 and they'll buy that. 1499 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:16,339 It was a bit of a shock to him when the queen said, look, 1500 01:15:16,373 --> 01:15:18,686 I understand, you know, where you want to go, 1501 01:15:18,721 --> 01:15:20,343 and I wish you well. 1502 01:15:20,377 --> 01:15:23,588 But there was no way that the queen was going to buy that. 1503 01:15:23,622 --> 01:15:27,108 And so now he's been out on his own. 1504 01:15:27,143 --> 01:15:30,456 [dramatic music] 1505 01:15:30,491 --> 01:15:31,492 - Good evening. 1506 01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:32,838 The Duke and Duchess of Sussex 1507 01:15:32,873 --> 01:15:34,737 have issued a personal statement saying 1508 01:15:34,771 --> 01:15:37,256 they will step back as senior royals 1509 01:15:37,291 --> 01:15:40,087 and work to become financially independent. 1510 01:15:40,121 --> 01:15:42,779 They made the announcement without consulting any members 1511 01:15:42,814 --> 01:15:44,885 of the royal family, a decision which is said 1512 01:15:44,919 --> 01:15:47,059 to have left the family feeling hurt. 1513 01:15:47,094 --> 01:15:49,510 Prince Harry and Meghan say they will continue 1514 01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:52,340 to fully support the queen, but now plan to split 1515 01:15:52,375 --> 01:15:55,516 their time between the UK and North America. 1516 01:15:55,551 --> 01:16:00,038 - If the queen had allowed Harry and Meghan to be 1517 01:16:00,072 --> 01:16:04,387 half in and half out, none of what happened later 1518 01:16:04,421 --> 01:16:06,147 would have happened. 1519 01:16:06,182 --> 01:16:10,496 And perhaps that was a mistake, but it wasn't Charles' mistake. 1520 01:16:10,531 --> 01:16:13,499 - But the failure to find something that worked 1521 01:16:13,534 --> 01:16:15,571 for everyone is going to haunt the monarchy 1522 01:16:15,605 --> 01:16:19,367 and Charles for a very long time. 1523 01:16:21,266 --> 01:16:24,062 - Towards the end of her life and the duke's life, 1524 01:16:24,096 --> 01:16:29,274 if there were any problems with regards to the way 1525 01:16:29,308 --> 01:16:33,761 that they parented, I think that was all put behind them. 1526 01:16:33,796 --> 01:16:35,521 Charles was talking to Philip 1527 01:16:35,556 --> 01:16:37,662 about his 100th birthday celebrations. 1528 01:16:37,696 --> 01:16:40,561 And he said, "I've got to make it first." 1529 01:16:40,596 --> 01:16:42,252 And of course, that was the last conversation 1530 01:16:42,287 --> 01:16:47,464 they had because he died almost probably out of stubbornness. 1531 01:16:47,499 --> 01:16:49,225 Because of course, the Duke of Edinburgh 1532 01:16:49,259 --> 01:16:51,089 once said that, you know, he couldn't think of anything 1533 01:16:51,123 --> 01:16:53,470 worse than reaching 100. 1534 01:16:53,505 --> 01:16:56,715 [shouting orders] 1535 01:16:59,615 --> 01:17:02,203 - Prince Philip was a remarkable man. 1536 01:17:02,238 --> 01:17:07,001 He and the queen were married, as we know, for 73 years. 1537 01:17:07,036 --> 01:17:10,660 And when a figure like Prince Philip 1538 01:17:10,695 --> 01:17:12,317 is removed from the scene, 1539 01:17:12,351 --> 01:17:15,734 of course it leaves a great void. 1540 01:17:15,769 --> 01:17:18,634 - The saddest sight was seeing the queen 1541 01:17:18,668 --> 01:17:20,946 during COVID burying her husband 1542 01:17:20,981 --> 01:17:23,086 and sitting all on her own. 1543 01:17:24,260 --> 01:17:28,126 Horrendous for her and for the family really. 1544 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,887 - We have had news from Buckingham Palace 1545 01:17:30,922 --> 01:17:35,512 that the queen is under medical supervision at Balmoral. 1546 01:17:35,547 --> 01:17:39,689 [somber music] 1547 01:17:39,724 --> 01:17:42,692 - The Prince of Wales had to fly up to Balmoral. 1548 01:17:42,727 --> 01:17:44,832 The queen had taken a turn for the worse. 1549 01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:46,972 Obviously, Charles knew what was going to happen. 1550 01:17:47,007 --> 01:17:49,285 My understanding is, he'd gone mushrooming. 1551 01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:51,459 He'd gone with his box and his stick, 1552 01:17:51,494 --> 01:17:54,117 and gone into the wild woods, but obviously, 1553 01:17:54,152 --> 01:17:56,533 thinking that this was the moment that he 1554 01:17:56,568 --> 01:18:00,952 was going to become king. 1555 01:18:00,986 --> 01:18:02,988 It shows you even at that moment that he wanted 1556 01:18:03,023 --> 01:18:04,783 to be at one with nature, which I think 1557 01:18:04,818 --> 01:18:08,476 really sums up the king, somebody who is in harmony 1558 01:18:08,511 --> 01:18:10,858 with his environment. 1559 01:18:13,516 --> 01:18:15,898 [bell tolling] 1560 01:18:15,932 --> 01:18:18,141 - Buckingham Palace has announced the death 1561 01:18:18,176 --> 01:18:19,833 of Queen Elizabeth II. 1562 01:18:19,867 --> 01:18:22,974 ♪ 1563 01:18:23,008 --> 01:18:27,530 - And so the reign of Elizabeth II comes to a close 1564 01:18:27,564 --> 01:18:31,776 after 70 years at the age of 96. 1565 01:18:31,810 --> 01:18:34,606 Her son Charles is now king. 1566 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,435 - God save the king. 1567 01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:39,059 all: God save the king. 1568 01:18:41,233 --> 01:18:44,858 - Queen Elizabeth's was a life well lived, 1569 01:18:44,892 --> 01:18:47,999 a promise with destiny kept. 1570 01:18:48,033 --> 01:18:52,589 And she is mourned most deeply in her passing. 1571 01:18:52,624 --> 01:18:59,113 That promise of lifelong service I renew to all today. 1572 01:18:59,838 --> 01:19:02,772 - He gave that speech that made us feel secure. 1573 01:19:02,807 --> 01:19:04,740 And I think we realized suddenly 1574 01:19:04,774 --> 01:19:06,396 there was a man, a very empathetic man, 1575 01:19:06,431 --> 01:19:10,469 who was going to lead us into a new, modern monarchy. 1576 01:19:10,504 --> 01:19:13,024 And I think we felt good about that. 1577 01:19:13,058 --> 01:19:16,199 ♪ 1578 01:19:16,234 --> 01:19:19,202 [tense music] 1579 01:19:19,237 --> 01:19:21,032 ♪ 1580 01:19:21,066 --> 01:19:23,966 - He's come to the throne in the teeth 1581 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,246 of unprecedented challenges-- a cost of living crisis, 1582 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,179 the breach with Meghan and Harry, 1583 01:19:30,213 --> 01:19:33,492 and, of course, the problems with his brother. 1584 01:19:34,666 --> 01:19:36,806 It looks like to be king is to have 1585 01:19:36,841 --> 01:19:39,498 pigeons come home to roost. 1586 01:19:42,156 --> 01:19:45,159 - Have you become an embarrassment, Prince Andrew? 1587 01:19:46,436 --> 01:19:48,887 - At the heart of the prince's current problems 1588 01:19:48,922 --> 01:19:53,719 is his 16-year friendship with this American businessman. 1589 01:19:53,754 --> 01:19:55,445 - Could you please give us your name? 1590 01:19:55,480 --> 01:19:57,482 - Jeffrey Epstein. 1591 01:19:57,516 --> 01:19:59,104 - My name is Grant Harrold. 1592 01:19:59,139 --> 01:20:01,382 And I was a royal butler to the Prince of Wales 1593 01:20:01,417 --> 01:20:04,834 between 2004 and 2011. 1594 01:20:04,869 --> 01:20:07,492 While I was there, one of the most difficult things 1595 01:20:07,526 --> 01:20:09,183 to hit the royal family in recent years 1596 01:20:09,218 --> 01:20:11,047 is Prince Andrew's relationship 1597 01:20:11,082 --> 01:20:13,636 with Jeffrey Epstein, him a convicted sex offender. 1598 01:20:13,670 --> 01:20:16,742 And then you got Prince Andrew giving an interview on it. 1599 01:20:16,777 --> 01:20:18,158 - That you were staying at the house-- 1600 01:20:18,192 --> 01:20:20,850 - Yes. - Of a convicted sex offender. 1601 01:20:20,885 --> 01:20:21,955 - [sighs] 1602 01:20:21,989 --> 01:20:23,715 It was a convenient place to stay. 1603 01:20:23,749 --> 01:20:25,544 - It just was a disaster. 1604 01:20:25,579 --> 01:20:30,860 - I admit fully that my judgment 1605 01:20:30,895 --> 01:20:36,659 was probably colored by my tendency 1606 01:20:36,693 --> 01:20:38,005 to be too honorable. 1607 01:20:39,075 --> 01:20:43,977 - When Charles became king, he dealt very effectively 1608 01:20:44,011 --> 01:20:46,358 with Andrew and very ruthlessly. 1609 01:20:46,393 --> 01:20:49,879 He told him that he would never be a working royal again 1610 01:20:49,914 --> 01:20:53,883 or perform a public duty, which, as we know, 1611 01:20:53,918 --> 01:20:59,716 enraged Andrew, but it was what he had to do. 1612 01:21:00,476 --> 01:21:04,204 So in that case, Charles very definitely put 1613 01:21:04,238 --> 01:21:07,379 the interests of the crown first and quite right. 1614 01:21:07,414 --> 01:21:09,278 But Andrew is not his son. 1615 01:21:11,038 --> 01:21:14,662 - Harry's new book "Spare" contains salacious revelations 1616 01:21:14,697 --> 01:21:17,907 and shocking allegations that his brother Prince William 1617 01:21:17,942 --> 01:21:19,909 knocked him to the ground in an argument 1618 01:21:19,944 --> 01:21:21,911 linked to Harry's marriage to Meghan Markle, 1619 01:21:21,946 --> 01:21:24,258 Duchess of Sussex. 1620 01:21:24,293 --> 01:21:28,918 ♪ 1621 01:21:28,953 --> 01:21:31,576 - I got to know William and Harry 1622 01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:34,234 as well as I know my own family. 1623 01:21:34,268 --> 01:21:37,927 In all the years I was there, I didn't witness fallouts. 1624 01:21:37,962 --> 01:21:41,931 I didn't witness arguments. I didn't witness shouting. 1625 01:21:41,966 --> 01:21:45,417 These are things I didn't-- I didn't see any of that. 1626 01:21:45,452 --> 01:21:48,006 They were a happy family. 1627 01:21:48,041 --> 01:21:50,284 So that bit doesn't add up. 1628 01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:52,286 - It was given an air of being not quite ready 1629 01:21:52,321 --> 01:21:54,633 for parenthood-- the responsibilities, 1630 01:21:54,668 --> 01:21:56,773 the patience, the time. 1631 01:21:56,808 --> 01:22:00,812 Even he, though a proud man, would have admitted as much. 1632 01:22:00,846 --> 01:22:04,954 But single parenthood, Pa was never made for that. 1633 01:22:04,989 --> 01:22:08,026 To be fair, he tried. 1634 01:22:08,061 --> 01:22:10,270 - Harry thanked his father for the way 1635 01:22:10,304 --> 01:22:12,099 he walked his bride down the aisle. 1636 01:22:12,134 --> 01:22:13,963 He thanked his father for the way 1637 01:22:13,998 --> 01:22:15,861 he helped shape him as a man and his belief 1638 01:22:15,896 --> 01:22:17,346 in the environment. 1639 01:22:17,380 --> 01:22:19,106 So I don't really know where he suddenly 1640 01:22:19,141 --> 01:22:21,695 had this complete about-face on his father. 1641 01:22:21,729 --> 01:22:23,731 It certainly has upset the king, I mean, 1642 01:22:23,766 --> 01:22:26,113 because of course it would. 1643 01:22:26,148 --> 01:22:27,563 - With everything going on with Harry, 1644 01:22:27,597 --> 01:22:30,807 I don't know what made him change so much. 1645 01:22:30,842 --> 01:22:33,155 I look at him, and I just think-- 1646 01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:35,985 I just--it's a very different character. 1647 01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:37,504 Something has happened. 1648 01:22:37,538 --> 01:22:39,195 Something has changed him 1649 01:22:39,230 --> 01:22:42,992 and made him very different. 1650 01:22:43,027 --> 01:22:44,890 - He was very close to his brother, 1651 01:22:44,925 --> 01:22:47,479 and he loved Kate. 1652 01:22:47,514 --> 01:22:50,310 He's changed a great deal. 1653 01:22:50,344 --> 01:22:53,002 And it's been since he married Meghan, 1654 01:22:53,037 --> 01:22:57,765 so draw the conclusion that you want. 1655 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,906 ♪ 1656 01:23:02,563 --> 01:23:05,221 - The window display wasn't subtle, 1657 01:23:05,256 --> 01:23:09,191 but then again, nothing about this has been. 1658 01:23:09,225 --> 01:23:14,334 It is the fastest-selling non-fiction book ever. 1659 01:23:15,266 --> 01:23:19,477 - Diana is a central theme to his biography. 1660 01:23:19,511 --> 01:23:23,343 And I think that what Harry has reflected upon 1661 01:23:23,377 --> 01:23:26,346 is understanding that his mother was unhappy 1662 01:23:26,380 --> 01:23:28,555 for a lot of her life while married 1663 01:23:28,589 --> 01:23:30,867 because of the relationship 1664 01:23:30,902 --> 01:23:32,835 that her husband was having with Camilla. 1665 01:23:32,869 --> 01:23:37,115 - "We support you," we said. "We endorse Camilla," we said. 1666 01:23:37,150 --> 01:23:40,774 "Just please don't marry her. Just be together, Pa." 1667 01:23:40,808 --> 01:23:42,396 He didn't answer. 1668 01:23:42,431 --> 01:23:45,158 But she answered straight away. 1669 01:23:45,192 --> 01:23:46,952 Shortly after our private summits with her, 1670 01:23:46,987 --> 01:23:48,747 she began to play the long game, 1671 01:23:48,782 --> 01:23:51,233 a campaign aimed at marriage, and eventually the crown, 1672 01:23:51,267 --> 01:23:54,063 with Pa's blessing, we presumed. 1673 01:23:54,098 --> 01:23:57,308 - William and Harry weren't happy 1674 01:23:57,342 --> 01:24:00,035 about Charles and Camilla's marriage. 1675 01:24:00,069 --> 01:24:02,106 Camilla was the person who made 1676 01:24:02,140 --> 01:24:04,660 their beloved mother unhappy. 1677 01:24:05,764 --> 01:24:08,940 - I think that Harry finds it difficult to reconcile, 1678 01:24:08,974 --> 01:24:11,149 in a way, with his father because of that. 1679 01:24:11,184 --> 01:24:14,808 - I think that Harry is very like his mother. 1680 01:24:14,842 --> 01:24:17,121 And I think that there are parallels 1681 01:24:17,155 --> 01:24:19,468 in the way they have behaved. 1682 01:24:19,502 --> 01:24:23,851 I think what he's doing now is incredibly self-destructive 1683 01:24:23,886 --> 01:24:27,855 and destroying everything that he knew and loved. 1684 01:24:32,964 --> 01:24:35,794 - The main thing to understand about the Windsors 1685 01:24:35,829 --> 01:24:38,625 is they're a spectacularly dysfunctional family. 1686 01:24:38,659 --> 01:24:40,144 And why wouldn't they be? 1687 01:24:40,178 --> 01:24:43,354 They grow up in the strangest of circumstances 1688 01:24:43,388 --> 01:24:48,980 and always this kind of public eye looking in on them. 1689 01:24:49,014 --> 01:24:51,155 And they're also, not to forget, 1690 01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:53,088 always pitted against each other. 1691 01:24:53,122 --> 01:24:55,228 They're in competition. 1692 01:24:55,262 --> 01:24:57,506 - Now, how many book deals has Harry signed? 1693 01:24:57,540 --> 01:24:59,749 How many more programs have they still got to make? 1694 01:24:59,784 --> 01:25:05,238 What is selling those books is the dirt on the royal family. 1695 01:25:05,272 --> 01:25:08,172 It's not chicken rearing in Montecito. 1696 01:25:08,206 --> 01:25:11,278 So this could go on forever. 1697 01:25:15,696 --> 01:25:18,665 - At this moment in time, there's been polls done, 1698 01:25:18,699 --> 01:25:21,530 and the monarchy's popularity has dropped. 1699 01:25:21,564 --> 01:25:24,084 Charles, his popularity has dropped. 1700 01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:26,604 William and Kate's popularity has dropped. 1701 01:25:26,638 --> 01:25:29,572 Harry's popularity has dropped. 1702 01:25:29,607 --> 01:25:32,920 What does that say for the future of it? 1703 01:25:32,955 --> 01:25:36,200 And I don't think Harry realizes that maybe he started 1704 01:25:36,234 --> 01:25:38,788 a time bomb, which could actually 1705 01:25:38,823 --> 01:25:41,377 be the catalyst to actually destroying the monarchy. 1706 01:25:41,412 --> 01:25:43,586 [dramatic music] 1707 01:25:43,621 --> 01:25:45,243 I think that one thing about Charles is, 1708 01:25:45,278 --> 01:25:47,280 he's very protective of the monarchy. 1709 01:25:47,314 --> 01:25:50,110 You know, the monarchy is everything, obviously. 1710 01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:52,319 And he wants to ensure that it continues, 1711 01:25:52,354 --> 01:25:53,769 like his mother did. 1712 01:25:53,803 --> 01:25:55,909 So if he feels that his son is going 1713 01:25:55,943 --> 01:25:58,843 to damage or affect her, he has to make the decision, 1714 01:25:58,877 --> 01:26:01,639 do I support my son? 1715 01:26:01,673 --> 01:26:04,504 ♪ 1716 01:26:04,538 --> 01:26:08,128 Or do I support the monarchy? 1717 01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:10,579 He will support the monarchy. 1718 01:26:10,613 --> 01:26:17,655 ♪ 1719 01:26:22,798 --> 01:26:25,766 [dramatic orchestral music] 1720 01:26:25,801 --> 01:26:33,015 ♪