1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,007 --> 00:00:12,179 ♪♪ 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:35,202 --> 00:00:44,144 ♪♪ 5 00:00:44,144 --> 00:00:53,053 ♪♪ 6 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:55,689 -So, what's Ocilla like? 7 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:58,258 -Um, I mean, it's just -- 8 00:00:58,258 --> 00:01:02,062 It's a quiet, peaceful town. 9 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:05,265 People will tend to their business and yours, too. 10 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:08,302 [ Both laugh ] 11 00:01:08,302 --> 00:01:11,972 You know, small town, population about 3,400. 12 00:01:11,972 --> 00:01:15,542 Just, a lot of people are attached to farms. 13 00:01:15,542 --> 00:01:18,278 We -- We take our football pretty seriously. 14 00:01:18,278 --> 00:01:20,280 ♪♪ 15 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,249 We're passing the hospital here on the left. 16 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:25,485 There's Irwin County Hospital. 17 00:01:25,485 --> 00:01:29,256 We're just a nice place to live, a nice place to be, 18 00:01:29,256 --> 00:01:31,124 and try to keep things quiet. 19 00:01:31,124 --> 00:01:32,793 And then every once in a while, something happens 20 00:01:32,793 --> 00:01:34,061 that gets national attention. 21 00:01:34,061 --> 00:01:35,495 And unfortunately, it's not for the nice, 22 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:38,765 laid-back quality of life we have here. 23 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:40,400 -Ocilla is a small, unassuming town 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,768 in Southern Georgia 25 00:01:41,768 --> 00:01:44,371 where a nightmare scandal is unraveling. 26 00:01:44,371 --> 00:01:47,574 A growing number of women say guards from an ICE facility 27 00:01:47,574 --> 00:01:50,644 brought them into a local hospital, shackled, 28 00:01:50,644 --> 00:01:53,380 and then a gynecologist named Dr. Mahendra Amin 29 00:01:53,380 --> 00:01:55,482 gave them unneeded surgery 30 00:01:55,482 --> 00:01:59,886 without first telling them or getting informed consent. 31 00:01:59,886 --> 00:02:02,356 We've been investigating these allegations for months. 32 00:02:02,356 --> 00:02:04,524 After an initial whistleblower complaint claimed 33 00:02:04,524 --> 00:02:06,593 that Amin performed mass hysterectomies, 34 00:02:06,593 --> 00:02:10,797 Congress called on three federal agencies to investigate. 35 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:12,833 To date, it's still ongoing, 36 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:15,502 and most of these women say they still don't know 37 00:02:15,502 --> 00:02:18,538 what procedures they underwent and why. 38 00:02:18,538 --> 00:02:20,607 This is Irwin County Detention Center. 39 00:02:20,607 --> 00:02:22,976 This is where many of the women who have received 40 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:26,813 these controversial surgeries are and were detained. 41 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:28,015 I don't see any women, 42 00:02:28,015 --> 00:02:31,051 but I think we should just go talk to them. 43 00:02:33,053 --> 00:02:35,122 What's your sense of what's going on? 44 00:02:44,031 --> 00:02:46,166 The female detainee told you that? 45 00:02:49,736 --> 00:02:51,605 Oh, I see. How you doing? 46 00:02:51,605 --> 00:02:55,776 -Could you guys kind of step back for me? 47 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:57,477 -Lawyers filed a class-action lawsuit 48 00:02:57,477 --> 00:02:59,613 on behalf of 14 Amin patients 49 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:02,649 with sworn testimony from more than 40 women. 50 00:03:02,649 --> 00:03:04,618 It alleges these gynecologic procedures 51 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:06,186 amount to sexual assault, 52 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:10,624 and the women who spoke out faced brutal retaliation. 53 00:03:10,624 --> 00:03:12,259 Immigration lawyer Amelia Wilson 54 00:03:12,259 --> 00:03:15,262 is one of the lead attorneys behind the lawsuit. 55 00:03:15,262 --> 00:03:17,831 -A lot of women didn't know or understand 56 00:03:17,831 --> 00:03:19,900 what had happened to their bodies. 57 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,270 There were many women who were having procedures done 58 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:26,740 that they did not need and that were invasive, 59 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:29,776 meaning that there was a surgery involved, 60 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:32,412 or they were placed under anesthesia. 61 00:03:32,412 --> 00:03:35,482 And many of the women did not consent to it. 62 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:38,518 It's not that they were saying no to the procedure. 63 00:03:38,518 --> 00:03:41,855 It's that no one ever explained to them what the procedure was. 64 00:03:41,855 --> 00:03:43,924 -There was no informed consent. -Exactly. 65 00:03:43,924 --> 00:03:45,826 Those are the main allegations, 66 00:03:45,826 --> 00:03:51,431 that they were victims of crimes committed against them, 67 00:03:51,431 --> 00:03:54,534 that they sought to come forward 68 00:03:54,534 --> 00:03:56,369 to speak out about what had happened to them, 69 00:03:56,369 --> 00:03:59,272 and as a result, they were retaliated against. 70 00:03:59,272 --> 00:04:01,641 And the retaliation took multiple forms. 71 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:05,479 A lot of women were threatened with isolation, for example. 72 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:07,581 "If you're speaking out to the media, 73 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:08,782 we're going to take away your tablet 74 00:04:08,782 --> 00:04:10,450 so you can't communicate with your family." 75 00:04:10,450 --> 00:04:13,487 But to sever their access to their children or their families 76 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:17,357 was absolutely eviscerating for them. 77 00:04:17,357 --> 00:04:19,092 -Soon after this lawsuit was filed, 78 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:22,529 ICE temporarily released all of the women who were named in it, 79 00:04:22,529 --> 00:04:24,064 including a 37-year-old woman 80 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:27,167 who's now living outside of Atlanta, 81 00:04:27,167 --> 00:04:29,669 We've been in touch with a woman named Mbeti Ndonga 82 00:04:29,669 --> 00:04:31,805 for months now. We started talking to her 83 00:04:31,805 --> 00:04:34,808 when she was still inside Irwin County Detention Center. 84 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:36,810 She's back home at her parents' house, 85 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:39,279 and we're here to check in on her. 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,016 ♪♪ 87 00:04:43,016 --> 00:04:46,553 -These are just pictures of my -- my dad. 88 00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:49,055 He coached soccer for us. 89 00:04:49,055 --> 00:04:52,626 And we got acclimated to the American society 90 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,828 very easily. 91 00:04:54,828 --> 00:04:57,364 -Mbeti came to the U.S. from Kenya as a toddler. 92 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:59,466 She had a very American childhood -- 93 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:02,969 "Saved by the Bell," mac and cheese, and soccer games. 94 00:05:02,969 --> 00:05:06,039 Is there a part of you that walked into the detention center 95 00:05:06,039 --> 00:05:09,075 and just thought, "How am I in ICE custody right now?" 96 00:05:09,075 --> 00:05:11,511 -I couldn't really believe it. 97 00:05:11,511 --> 00:05:14,014 The very first time I was locked up in ICE, 98 00:05:14,014 --> 00:05:16,783 it was like a surreal dungeon. 99 00:05:16,783 --> 00:05:21,321 Like you walked in, and... 100 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:23,890 there was l-loud noises, 101 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:27,427 the slamming of the doors, the echoing in the halls. 102 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:28,895 -Mbeti landed in ICE custody 103 00:05:28,895 --> 00:05:32,132 after her life started to spiral in her early 20s. 104 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:34,935 She wasn't being treated for schizoaffective disorder. 105 00:05:34,935 --> 00:05:37,537 Her green card expired. She committed two felonies 106 00:05:37,537 --> 00:05:39,673 and landed at a detention center. 107 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:41,908 Two months later, she was taken to see a doctor 108 00:05:41,908 --> 00:05:43,777 for her heavy periods. 109 00:05:43,777 --> 00:05:47,380 -I thought that I would be getting 110 00:05:47,380 --> 00:05:50,050 a-a Depo shot, 111 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:52,152 because that's what -- That was my regimen. 112 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:55,355 That's what was prescribed by a previous doctor. 113 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,457 -So basically, it's -- it can act as contraception, 114 00:05:57,457 --> 00:05:58,992 but it can also help with symptoms 115 00:05:58,992 --> 00:06:00,961 like heavy bleeding, for instance. 116 00:06:00,961 --> 00:06:02,495 -Right. -And had that worked for you 117 00:06:02,495 --> 00:06:04,431 in the past? -Yeah, it worked for me. 118 00:06:04,431 --> 00:06:08,268 And I don't know why the doctor didn't re-suggest it. 119 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,703 -In her records, Amin wrote 120 00:06:09,703 --> 00:06:12,038 that Mbeti didn't respond to a Depo shot, 121 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:14,808 but the records don't show he ever tried it. 122 00:06:14,808 --> 00:06:17,611 Instead, he's scheduled a dilation and curettage, 123 00:06:17,611 --> 00:06:18,979 or D&C, 124 00:06:18,979 --> 00:06:22,682 a medical procedure that removes tissue from the uterus. 125 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:25,919 -The nurse, she asked me if I was getting a hysterectomy. 126 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:28,989 I said, "No, ma'am, I'm getting a D&C." 127 00:06:28,989 --> 00:06:30,290 She asked again. 128 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:33,093 I remember being really annoyed with her 129 00:06:33,093 --> 00:06:35,428 that I had to, like, explain to myself, 130 00:06:35,428 --> 00:06:38,498 "I'm not -- I'm not wanting to take out my womb. 131 00:06:38,498 --> 00:06:40,867 I don't know why you're asking about a hysterectomy." 132 00:06:40,867 --> 00:06:43,270 Moments before I was supposed to go under, 133 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:46,539 she asked both -- both me and -- and the other lady. 134 00:06:46,539 --> 00:06:48,041 -Another detainee? -Another -- Yeah, 135 00:06:48,041 --> 00:06:50,343 another detainee, if we were having hysterectomies. 136 00:06:50,343 --> 00:06:52,779 -Did you turn to the other detainee next to you 137 00:06:52,779 --> 00:06:54,214 and -- and say anything? 138 00:06:54,214 --> 00:06:57,884 -Yeah, I mean, I was like, what did we get ourselves into? 139 00:06:57,884 --> 00:06:59,786 -And so, at what point did you realize 140 00:06:59,786 --> 00:07:03,223 you had actually had surgery, not just a D&C -- surgery? 141 00:07:03,223 --> 00:07:06,359 -I woke up, and they said, "Be careful getting up." 142 00:07:06,359 --> 00:07:07,961 And I was like -- I'm kind of like, "Why?" 143 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:10,764 And then I-I touched my body, 144 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:13,533 and I had three incisions, 145 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:14,968 one on my side, 146 00:07:14,968 --> 00:07:17,637 one in my belly button, and one on my other side. 147 00:07:17,637 --> 00:07:20,974 The surgery and the procedure isn't even half the story. 148 00:07:20,974 --> 00:07:24,411 Later, I ended up getting a staph infection 149 00:07:24,411 --> 00:07:26,212 from that procedure, 150 00:07:26,212 --> 00:07:28,248 and I never got a second follow-up with doctors. 151 00:07:28,248 --> 00:07:29,683 -You never had another follow-up appointment? 152 00:07:29,683 --> 00:07:33,687 -I never had a follow-up appointment with Dr. Amin. 153 00:07:33,687 --> 00:07:36,056 -Records show that a follow-up appointment was scheduled 154 00:07:36,056 --> 00:07:37,590 for two weeks later, 155 00:07:37,590 --> 00:07:40,961 but don't show whether that visit ever took place. 156 00:07:40,961 --> 00:07:46,299 -♪ Season to celebrate ♪ 157 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:48,034 -Then, seven weeks later, 158 00:07:48,034 --> 00:07:51,271 Mbeti tested positive for a staph infection. 159 00:07:51,271 --> 00:07:53,139 While Mbeti did sign some consent forms 160 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:55,575 before her surgery in August 2019, 161 00:07:55,575 --> 00:07:58,078 she says she didn't understand what she was signing. 162 00:07:58,078 --> 00:08:00,880 Now, a year and a half later, Mbeti still doesn't know 163 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,517 if she had a hysterectomy or not. 164 00:08:04,517 --> 00:08:06,886 -It's just heartbreaking. You know what I'm saying? To -- 165 00:08:06,886 --> 00:08:08,355 And that's something she's always wanted, 166 00:08:08,355 --> 00:08:10,090 just to have kids and, like, you know, to have -- 167 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:11,424 So the fact that that might have been, 168 00:08:11,424 --> 00:08:14,527 like, stripped away from her is -- It's heartbreaking, 169 00:08:14,527 --> 00:08:15,829 and it's maddening. 170 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:19,799 And I hope that they didn't. You know what I'm saying? 171 00:08:19,799 --> 00:08:21,034 I really hope that they went in there 172 00:08:21,034 --> 00:08:22,502 and did the surgery they were supposed to do, 173 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:24,771 that they said they were going to do. 174 00:08:24,771 --> 00:08:28,842 -You know, to be honest, I've brushed over the detail. 175 00:08:28,842 --> 00:08:34,347 I remember running across an article, it was earlier in 2020, 176 00:08:34,347 --> 00:08:35,782 thinking, "Wow, that's horrible." 177 00:08:35,782 --> 00:08:41,087 But then actually finding out that my sister is involved, 178 00:08:41,087 --> 00:08:42,756 I don't want to know the details, 179 00:08:42,756 --> 00:08:46,860 because, as her little brother, you feel -- 180 00:08:46,860 --> 00:08:49,763 You know, the more information I learn about it, 181 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:51,498 the angrier I get. 182 00:08:51,498 --> 00:08:53,633 ♪♪ 183 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:56,703 -What has been your greatest fear? 184 00:08:56,703 --> 00:09:02,942 -Not being able to do what a normal mother does, 185 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:05,445 you know? Have children, 186 00:09:05,445 --> 00:09:09,049 watch them grow, and... 187 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:11,584 I mean, that's a very sacred thing, 188 00:09:11,584 --> 00:09:16,022 and I-I feel like it's been kind of 189 00:09:16,022 --> 00:09:19,793 threatened, immensely. 190 00:09:38,011 --> 00:09:39,712 -After Mbeti and countless other women 191 00:09:39,712 --> 00:09:42,515 suffered what they consider medical torture, 192 00:09:42,515 --> 00:09:44,984 they felt the worst had to be over, 193 00:09:44,984 --> 00:09:47,487 until the week of the U.S. presidential election, 194 00:09:47,487 --> 00:09:50,223 when they suddenly faced their worst fear. 195 00:09:50,223 --> 00:09:51,591 While the world was transfixed 196 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:55,061 by the most heated political contest in generations, 197 00:09:55,061 --> 00:09:58,932 ICE began quietly scheduling these women for deportation 198 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:01,301 before many of them had testified, 199 00:10:01,301 --> 00:10:05,672 something Congress specifically told ICE not to do. 200 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:23,323 Yanira Oldaker was brought to the U.S. 201 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:25,225 when she was just 3 years old. 202 00:10:25,225 --> 00:10:26,593 She says when she saw Amin, 203 00:10:26,593 --> 00:10:28,995 he gave her a transvaginal ultrasound. 204 00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:31,197 She says she was rough and caused her pain 205 00:10:31,197 --> 00:10:33,967 and that she bled for days afterward. 206 00:10:39,672 --> 00:10:41,908 After this call, Yanira became one of the women 207 00:10:41,908 --> 00:10:43,309 that was temporarily released 208 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,445 as part of the class-action lawsuit. 209 00:10:45,445 --> 00:10:47,147 She's the lead plaintiff. 210 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:50,650 You and your team were working overnight. 211 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:52,552 I mean, racing against the clock, 212 00:10:52,552 --> 00:10:54,721 while Yanira, meanwhile, was put in a bus 213 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:57,056 and was on the way to her deportation flight. 214 00:10:57,056 --> 00:11:00,793 -That's exactly right. The team worked without stop. 215 00:11:00,793 --> 00:11:02,962 We were just like, "We have to get something, 216 00:11:02,962 --> 00:11:04,397 like a stay of removal, 217 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:06,432 temporary restraining order, anything we can." 218 00:11:06,432 --> 00:11:09,102 We got in touch with her deportation officer, 219 00:11:09,102 --> 00:11:12,171 and he said that her removal had been stopped. 220 00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:13,806 -When ICE does something like that, I mean, 221 00:11:13,806 --> 00:11:15,575 how does it affect a federal investigation 222 00:11:15,575 --> 00:11:17,777 when these are potential key witnesses? 223 00:11:17,777 --> 00:11:21,514 -ICE has a policy to not remove people 224 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:24,217 who are part of an investigation. 225 00:11:24,217 --> 00:11:26,986 But we also know that during the Trump years, 226 00:11:26,986 --> 00:11:29,556 that policy was not really followed. 227 00:11:29,556 --> 00:11:32,825 I mean, we know even based on our experience with Mbeti, 228 00:11:32,825 --> 00:11:36,996 when I spoke to ICE and said she is a victim, "A," 229 00:11:36,996 --> 00:11:41,401 "B," she is a witness, and, "C," she's a potential plaintiff. 230 00:11:41,401 --> 00:11:42,969 Why are you removing her? 231 00:11:42,969 --> 00:11:47,840 The response from ICE was, "Our job is to remove people." 232 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,275 -ICE denies any allegation 233 00:11:49,275 --> 00:11:51,444 that they attempted to impede the investigation 234 00:11:51,444 --> 00:11:53,613 by deporting women. 235 00:11:53,613 --> 00:11:56,583 The only thing protecting Mbeti from immediate deportation 236 00:11:56,583 --> 00:11:59,185 at this point is the ongoing litigation. 237 00:11:59,185 --> 00:12:00,386 And so far, 238 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:03,223 the Biden administration hasn't intervened. 239 00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:06,359 Are you concerned that if her protections are lifted, 240 00:12:06,359 --> 00:12:07,760 that she could be deported? 241 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,732 -100%, because just before this litigation really took off, 242 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:16,536 she was at imminent risk of removal. 243 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:18,037 -I just don't want her to go away again. 244 00:12:18,037 --> 00:12:19,405 I don't want her to be locked in a cage. 245 00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:21,608 I don't want her to be alone in Kenya. 246 00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:23,443 Feeling that Mbeti was, like, isolated 247 00:12:23,443 --> 00:12:26,012 and feeling like she was going through this by herself, 248 00:12:26,012 --> 00:12:28,381 that's the worst. 249 00:12:28,381 --> 00:12:30,750 -For me, it was -- It was, uh -- 250 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:36,155 It was pretty good having both my kids here. 251 00:12:36,155 --> 00:12:37,857 -Mm-hmm. 252 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:47,900 -She sang ABCs to my son for... 253 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:49,402 long time on the phone, 254 00:12:49,402 --> 00:12:53,473 so to have that in person and my daughter also be a part of that 255 00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:55,041 was -- 256 00:12:55,041 --> 00:12:58,077 [ Sighs ] 257 00:12:58,077 --> 00:13:01,881 Ah, man. I'm sorry, guys. 258 00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:03,449 My children mean the world to me, 259 00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:05,385 so it's good to see them happy 260 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:08,221 and experience something with their aunt, you know? 261 00:13:08,221 --> 00:13:11,758 And every day since has been great. 262 00:13:11,758 --> 00:13:14,093 -We've spoken with women in six different countries, 263 00:13:14,093 --> 00:13:16,629 from Jamaica to El Salvador to Canada, 264 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:19,699 who were deported after seeing Amin. 265 00:13:19,699 --> 00:13:21,668 Some of them still haven't been contacted 266 00:13:21,668 --> 00:13:23,436 by federal investigators, 267 00:13:23,436 --> 00:13:27,106 begging the question, just how many women are out there? 268 00:13:27,106 --> 00:13:29,208 Why is it hard to know exactly how many women 269 00:13:29,208 --> 00:13:30,443 have been affected? 270 00:13:30,443 --> 00:13:32,612 -We're talking about a deportation machine 271 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:34,013 or conveyor belt. 272 00:13:34,013 --> 00:13:37,817 So all these women who came through the detention center 273 00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:41,654 and saw this doctor is almost incalculable. 274 00:13:45,425 --> 00:13:46,859 -We tracked down a woman named Yuridia 275 00:13:46,859 --> 00:13:48,661 who was deported just three days after she had surgery by Amin 276 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:50,129 in August 2020. 277 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:53,933 She's a single mom of six young daughters and, like many others, 278 00:13:53,933 --> 00:13:57,603 hasn't been contacted to testify in the federal investigation. 279 00:14:05,578 --> 00:14:07,113 -Okay. 280 00:14:28,167 --> 00:14:30,336 Sí. 281 00:14:30,336 --> 00:14:31,471 [ Speaking Spanish ] 282 00:14:31,471 --> 00:14:33,039 -Once Yuridia arrived in the U.S., 283 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:35,775 she found work and started a family. 284 00:14:35,775 --> 00:14:38,378 But soon after, her partner became abusive, 285 00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:41,180 leading to a series of domestic violence incidents. 286 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:44,050 In one altercation, Yuridia ran to the neighbor's house. 287 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:45,985 They called the police. 288 00:14:45,985 --> 00:14:48,254 When they arrived, Yuridia was arrested. 289 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:50,490 Her partner was not. 290 00:15:48,514 --> 00:15:50,516 Her daughters, all U.S. citizens, 291 00:15:50,516 --> 00:15:52,485 were eventually picked up by her sister 292 00:15:52,485 --> 00:15:55,588 and brought to Mexico. 293 00:15:55,588 --> 00:15:57,056 What was your first memory 294 00:15:57,056 --> 00:15:59,559 of walking into Irwin County Detention Center? 295 00:16:07,099 --> 00:16:10,536 Why did you originally see the doctor when you were there? 296 00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:19,645 So you reported that you had rib pain. 297 00:16:19,645 --> 00:16:22,582 I guess, like, how did that get you to the gynecologist? 298 00:16:43,903 --> 00:16:45,805 Yuridia says at her next appointment, 299 00:16:45,805 --> 00:16:48,541 she was told she would have to have surgery. 300 00:17:25,845 --> 00:17:29,482 I have your -- some of your medical records here. 301 00:17:29,482 --> 00:17:33,753 When you first went to see Dr. Amin, did you have -- 302 00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:35,288 and I'm listing the symptoms 303 00:17:35,288 --> 00:17:37,490 that are -- that are listed here -- 304 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:40,159 Did you have chronic pelvic pain? 305 00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:43,195 The second diagnosis that he has here is a medical term 306 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:46,198 that means basically that you had a very heavy period 307 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:48,868 that lasted longer than normal. Is that true? 308 00:17:54,006 --> 00:17:56,742 The next one is that -- It's a medical term 309 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:59,445 for -- for pain during menstruation. 310 00:17:59,445 --> 00:18:00,947 Like not more than usual 311 00:18:00,947 --> 00:18:02,882 or not -- nothing out of the ordinary. 312 00:18:22,935 --> 00:18:24,503 -[ Speaks Spanish ] -[ Chuckles ] 313 00:18:24,503 --> 00:18:27,006 -In the last six months, Yuridia's attorneys have been 314 00:18:27,006 --> 00:18:29,241 working to overturn her immigration case, 315 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:32,044 which would allow her to return to the U.S. with her daughters 316 00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:34,714 and fight for a chance at a green card. 317 00:18:34,714 --> 00:18:37,316 While legal precedent shows the chance of her making it back 318 00:18:37,316 --> 00:18:39,619 is very slim, her lawyer is confident 319 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:41,754 that she has a shot. 320 00:19:06,946 --> 00:19:08,247 -[ Chuckles ] 321 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:21,861 ♪♪ 322 00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:28,601 -Aah! 323 00:19:34,106 --> 00:19:36,442 -This story became the target of intense political debate, 324 00:19:36,442 --> 00:19:39,445 with Democrats calling for ICE to halt deportations 325 00:19:39,445 --> 00:19:42,548 and Republicans calling into question the allegations. 326 00:19:42,548 --> 00:19:47,920 -The AP's review did not find evidence of mass hysterectomies. 327 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,256 -A team of the country's top OB-GYNs 328 00:19:50,256 --> 00:19:52,291 determined that while they did not find 329 00:19:52,291 --> 00:19:54,794 that Amin performed mass hysterectomies, 330 00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:59,665 he did perform numerous unneeded gynecologic procedures. 331 00:19:59,665 --> 00:20:02,334 They reviewed more than 3,000 pages of medical records 332 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,470 for 19 women who saw him 333 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:07,573 and presented their findings to Congress. 334 00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:10,076 So, you were part of the independent medical review team. 335 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:11,544 What did you find? 336 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,913 -One of the first patterns that we saw 337 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:17,917 was just basically overly aggressive, 338 00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:20,186 sometimes un-indicated care. 339 00:20:20,186 --> 00:20:23,189 And sometimes, that did involve procedures, 340 00:20:23,189 --> 00:20:24,924 as well as surgical procedures, 341 00:20:24,924 --> 00:20:28,928 so, in-office procedures like transvaginal ultrasounds 342 00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:31,097 that, you know, weren't really indicated, 343 00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:33,199 as well as even surgical procedures 344 00:20:33,199 --> 00:20:36,869 like laparoscopic procedures that weren't always indicated. 345 00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:39,638 -You say it wasn't indicated. Does that mean 346 00:20:39,638 --> 00:20:42,641 there was no medical reason? It wasn't medically necessary? 347 00:20:42,641 --> 00:20:44,977 -Correct. So, not medically necessary. 348 00:20:44,977 --> 00:20:47,079 Any time you take a woman to the operating room 349 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,981 and perform a surgery, there's risks. 350 00:20:48,981 --> 00:20:50,950 You can have bleeding, infections, 351 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:53,452 damage to nearby organs like the bladder or the bowel, 352 00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:57,690 damage to nerves, surgical site infections, pain. 353 00:20:57,690 --> 00:20:59,825 Another more disturbing thing that we saw 354 00:20:59,825 --> 00:21:02,895 was just lack of providing informed consent. 355 00:21:02,895 --> 00:21:04,930 We talk about informed consent a lot, 356 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:06,999 and sometimes, it is diminished 357 00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:09,535 to just signing a piece of paper. 358 00:21:09,535 --> 00:21:13,639 But the actual consent process involves an understanding 359 00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:17,243 and a discussion between the patient and the physician. 360 00:21:17,243 --> 00:21:19,712 We didn't see evidence of that. 361 00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:22,281 -When you learned the Dr. Amin wasn't board-certified 362 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:23,649 and was doing these surgeries 363 00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:25,050 contracted by the federal government, 364 00:21:25,050 --> 00:21:26,719 did it surprise you? 365 00:21:26,719 --> 00:21:28,354 -It did. 366 00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:30,222 -And why is that? 367 00:21:30,222 --> 00:21:32,491 -For a vulnerable population of women, 368 00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:35,294 I would think that our government 369 00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:40,533 would be providing them with appropriate care. 370 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:44,170 I am concerned when I hear 371 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:47,907 that this doctor was not board-certified, 372 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:51,076 because I don't think that that would be a premier doctor 373 00:21:51,076 --> 00:21:53,279 for a woman to be seeing. 374 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:56,549 -In a series of statements, Amin denied all wrongdoing. 375 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:58,517 He and his lawyer declined multiple requests 376 00:21:58,517 --> 00:22:01,287 for an interview, citing ongoing litigation. 377 00:22:01,287 --> 00:22:02,521 One of the independent doctors 378 00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:06,325 said it's possible Amin saved a patient's life. 379 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,794 Dr. Amin's lawyer, in a statement that he sent us, 380 00:22:08,794 --> 00:22:11,463 he said that the records that you all had access to 381 00:22:11,463 --> 00:22:15,401 to do this review were severely incomplete at best. 382 00:22:15,401 --> 00:22:17,002 He said that because of that, 383 00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:19,638 the review couldn't have been conclusive or accurate. 384 00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:21,006 What is your response to that? 385 00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:22,708 -Well, yeah, I would certainly 386 00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:24,710 love to see more medical records, 387 00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:27,746 but from the medical records that we did have, 388 00:22:27,746 --> 00:22:30,482 we were able to come up with the conclusion. 389 00:22:30,482 --> 00:22:33,285 So I don't think any amount of medical records 390 00:22:33,285 --> 00:22:36,322 would corroborate medical necessity 391 00:22:36,322 --> 00:22:38,791 for many of these procedures that were performed. 392 00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:42,428 But I would welcome seeing and reviewing 393 00:22:42,428 --> 00:22:45,564 a complete medical record for these women. 394 00:22:45,564 --> 00:22:47,666 ♪♪ 395 00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,869 -A group of independent doctors has been reviewing 396 00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:52,905 a lot of the medical records of these female patients. 397 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:55,908 And they say the linchpin of this investigation 398 00:22:55,908 --> 00:22:57,876 are the pathology reports. 399 00:22:57,876 --> 00:23:01,680 We've tracked down the pathologist's courier, 400 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,451 who also happens to be the pathologist's daughter. 401 00:23:05,451 --> 00:23:08,220 She had a lot of insights on how this whole operation works, 402 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:11,056 because she is the person who picks up the specimens 403 00:23:11,056 --> 00:23:12,658 from Dr. Amin's hospital 404 00:23:12,658 --> 00:23:15,928 and transports them to her father's lab. 405 00:23:15,928 --> 00:23:19,265 -We are going to Irwin County Hospital in Ocilla, Georgia, 406 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:21,333 and that's where I pick up specimens. 407 00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:24,803 And I bring those back to Crisp County Hospital 408 00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:28,474 for Dr. Latham to look at and diagnose. 409 00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:29,975 And then we send those diagnoses 410 00:23:29,975 --> 00:23:32,611 back to Irwin County Hospital patients. 411 00:23:32,611 --> 00:23:34,580 -We reached out to a number of medical professionals 412 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:36,982 who were in some way involved with these surgeries 413 00:23:36,982 --> 00:23:38,350 or specimens. 414 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:41,987 Arden Latham was the only one who agreed to talk to us. 415 00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:43,555 The specimens she transfers 416 00:23:43,555 --> 00:23:47,126 are from general population and detainee patients. 417 00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:48,661 You get to the hospital. -Yes. 418 00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:51,030 -And then what do you do? -So, I'd walk over there 419 00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:52,898 and go into the lab at that point. 420 00:23:52,898 --> 00:23:55,267 And they have all the specimens out for me. 421 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:58,237 I just take the bags, and as I put each jar, 422 00:23:58,237 --> 00:24:00,939 each bag in the bucket, I, you know, 423 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:04,276 mark off a list and initial that patient's paperwork. 424 00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:05,511 -Right, so you're just verifying, 425 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:07,012 "Yes, I have this organ." -Yes. 426 00:24:07,012 --> 00:24:08,814 -"Yes, I have this cyst." -Yes. 427 00:24:08,814 --> 00:24:11,850 -On an average week, and I know it's different week to week, 428 00:24:11,850 --> 00:24:13,419 what are you picking up? 429 00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:16,922 -Ovarian cysts, ovaries, sometimes, 430 00:24:16,922 --> 00:24:18,490 fallopian tubes, 431 00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:20,960 any kind of tumor or cyst that has to do with, 432 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,728 you know, the female reproductive system. 433 00:24:22,728 --> 00:24:25,597 -Is that consistently for the last couple years? 434 00:24:25,597 --> 00:24:27,766 -Yeah, pretty much. -But when looking at the names 435 00:24:27,766 --> 00:24:29,968 and when checking off, you know, each patient, 436 00:24:29,968 --> 00:24:31,403 did you ever notice, I don't know, 437 00:24:31,403 --> 00:24:33,806 any kind of pattern that seemed unusual? 438 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:38,177 -There are a lot of Spanish names. 439 00:24:38,177 --> 00:24:40,412 A lot of that, you know, can come with the area, 440 00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:43,682 but it does seem a little bit disproportionate 441 00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:46,618 for the entire population of Ocilla, 442 00:24:46,618 --> 00:24:48,020 demographically speaking. 443 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:50,289 -At what point did you start to piece together 444 00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:52,391 why you were seeing so many Hispanic names? 445 00:24:52,391 --> 00:24:54,193 -Um, not until recently, 446 00:24:54,193 --> 00:24:56,428 'cause I didn't -- I didn't really know 447 00:24:56,428 --> 00:25:01,133 that there was an ICE facility until like a month ago or so. 448 00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:03,936 -Wow. -Yeah, it's total news to me. 449 00:25:03,936 --> 00:25:06,238 So once I -- once I heard that there was an ICE facility, 450 00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:09,041 I was like, "That's why there are so many Hispanic names." 451 00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:12,544 But before that, I had never known why. 452 00:25:12,544 --> 00:25:14,680 -When Arden brings the specimens to the lab, 453 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,349 her dad then decides whether the tissues are cancerous 454 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:20,219 or otherwise need to be removed. 455 00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:22,554 Was there a disconnect at times 456 00:25:22,554 --> 00:25:25,624 between what Dr. Amin's diagnosis was 457 00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:29,361 and what your father was able to discover or not discover? 458 00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:31,730 -I think definitely there was sometimes a, you know, 459 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:34,366 "I'm not finding this." And, um -- 460 00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:38,270 And -- You know, and again, there was a question of whether 461 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:41,173 a removal was needed or not. So there was always a question 462 00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:43,709 of whether he was overzealous in that realm. 463 00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:46,211 -And those were conversations that, I mean, 464 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:49,448 you guys were having before this story became national news. 465 00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:52,518 -Oh, yes, absolutely. 466 00:25:52,518 --> 00:25:54,553 -When this story came up, 467 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:58,524 did you sort of feel the weight of the types of specimens 468 00:25:58,524 --> 00:25:59,958 that you were transporting? 469 00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:02,528 -If you're used to the same thing 470 00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:04,763 over and over and over again, you don't think about it. 471 00:26:04,763 --> 00:26:06,999 There's no, like, depth of thought of -- 472 00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:10,436 I mean, like, I knew that I had to drive safely and carefully 473 00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:12,905 so that I don't, like, spill anything. 474 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:16,508 So that does change, you know, when you think of, 475 00:26:16,508 --> 00:26:19,845 what if the -- What if this person didn't want this done? 476 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:21,313 And what if this is something 477 00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:23,782 that someone now is traumatized over, 478 00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:25,851 and I'm just driving it around? 479 00:26:25,851 --> 00:26:27,920 -Why are you doing this interview now? 480 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,156 -Um, I think it's the right thing to do. 481 00:26:31,156 --> 00:26:34,626 Ocilla being so heavily Caucasian and so rural 482 00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:37,796 and in the the Deep South, essentially, 483 00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:41,066 um, the political opinion of immigrants 484 00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:43,802 is very, very negative. 485 00:26:43,802 --> 00:26:47,039 There's a tendency to forget that people are human beings. 486 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:53,212 And I just want to do what I can to help justice be served. 487 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:55,981 ♪♪ 488 00:26:55,981 --> 00:26:57,282 -Was there anything that you learned 489 00:26:57,282 --> 00:26:59,685 from seeing the pathology reports 490 00:26:59,685 --> 00:27:04,156 that allowed you to -- to draw certain conclusions or findings? 491 00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:06,892 -I mean, the pathology reports just corroborated the fact 492 00:27:06,892 --> 00:27:10,929 that procedures were being done that were un-indicated -- 493 00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:15,501 so, for example, the description of a simple ovarian cyst 494 00:27:15,501 --> 00:27:19,238 at the time of a laparoscopic procedure. 495 00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:23,108 Really no alarm bells that this could be a precancer. 496 00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:25,377 And removing it and sending it to pathology, 497 00:27:25,377 --> 00:27:27,679 it's corroborated that it's a follicular cyst. 498 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:29,948 So this is a normal portion of someone's ovary 499 00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:31,950 that did not need to be removed. 500 00:27:36,121 --> 00:27:37,556 -We reached out to Arden's parents for an interview. 501 00:27:37,556 --> 00:27:39,525 They refused to comment. And Amin's lawyer 502 00:27:39,525 --> 00:27:42,561 didn't respond to questions about Arden's account. 503 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:45,531 But when we visited the 3,000-person town of Ocilla, 504 00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:48,600 people were anxious to defend their hometown doctor. 505 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,004 The mayor of Ocilla, Matt Seale, invited us to his local cafe 506 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:55,407 with the hopes of shining a positive light on his town. 507 00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:57,242 How did the community here react 508 00:27:57,242 --> 00:28:00,212 when this became, you know, a national story? 509 00:28:00,212 --> 00:28:03,115 -I mean, obviously, it was very provocative. 510 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:06,652 So people were asking questions. 511 00:28:06,652 --> 00:28:10,756 But the sense I got was that folks were immediately skeptical 512 00:28:10,756 --> 00:28:15,093 and just very unsure about, you know, "What's all this about? 513 00:28:15,093 --> 00:28:16,562 This doesn't sound right." 514 00:28:16,562 --> 00:28:19,197 The way things kind of get painted, 515 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:21,667 it was as if there's some kind of dungeon 516 00:28:21,667 --> 00:28:23,468 in the basement of the detention center, 517 00:28:23,468 --> 00:28:25,103 and we're just lining people up 518 00:28:25,103 --> 00:28:27,539 and doing God-awful things to them. 519 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:30,676 -We have talked to many other women who have said 520 00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:32,811 they did have procedures done 521 00:28:32,811 --> 00:28:34,513 that they felt weren't consensual 522 00:28:34,513 --> 00:28:37,416 and they felt were not necessary. 523 00:28:37,416 --> 00:28:38,650 -And I would just say 524 00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:40,452 if there's any kind of allegation like that -- 525 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:43,155 I mean, any kind of allegation of that -- of that kind 526 00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:45,724 should be taken seriously, should be investigated. 527 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:46,925 I mean, I wouldn't -- Again, 528 00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:48,994 and I don't think there's any kind of, 529 00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:50,562 "Oh, well, this may have happened. 530 00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:51,797 Let's sweep it under the rug." 531 00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:52,965 That's -- That's not the attitude 532 00:28:52,965 --> 00:28:54,499 of anybody in this community. 533 00:28:54,499 --> 00:28:58,337 But that's -- that's a far cry from mass hysterectomies 534 00:28:58,337 --> 00:28:59,871 and the claims of things happening 535 00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:01,773 actually at the detention center. 536 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:05,978 But we as a community probably know him a little better 537 00:29:05,978 --> 00:29:08,080 than -- than people from the outside coming in, 538 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,514 no offense, with cameras 539 00:29:09,514 --> 00:29:11,516 and asking, you know, tough questions. 540 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,553 "Oh, these allegations, we need to -- We need to dig into this." 541 00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:17,089 Well, the people that supported him 542 00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,357 were the people that knew him best, 543 00:29:18,357 --> 00:29:20,826 the people that he delivered their babies. 544 00:29:20,826 --> 00:29:22,828 ♪♪ 545 00:29:22,828 --> 00:29:25,297 -Someone directed us to a Facebook page 546 00:29:25,297 --> 00:29:27,532 called "We Stand With Mahendra Amin," 547 00:29:27,532 --> 00:29:29,768 which is fascinating. Look at this. 548 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,937 There are two pregnant women here. 549 00:29:31,937 --> 00:29:33,905 They're wearing T-shirts that say, 550 00:29:33,905 --> 00:29:36,408 "We stand with Dr. Mahendra Amin." 551 00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:38,677 There are more than 1,500 people 552 00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:41,446 who are following it, who like this page. 553 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:44,349 There are only 10,000 people in this county. 554 00:29:44,349 --> 00:29:46,551 ♪♪ 555 00:29:46,551 --> 00:29:50,122 -He delivered two of my grandkids. 556 00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:51,523 -How did the community react 557 00:29:51,523 --> 00:29:53,492 when -- when he was accused of -- of all this? 558 00:29:53,492 --> 00:29:56,795 -Well, a lot of people, they didn't believe it anyway. 559 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,131 They still go to him, you know, like my daughter. 560 00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:02,668 She had heard it, and she didn't believe it, 561 00:30:02,668 --> 00:30:04,569 'cause, you know, she still went to him. 562 00:30:04,569 --> 00:30:07,105 -So he didn't really lose any patients or -- 563 00:30:07,105 --> 00:30:09,441 -No. 564 00:30:09,441 --> 00:30:12,044 -You guys have this sort of national scandal 565 00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:14,179 that just landed in your small town. 566 00:30:14,179 --> 00:30:16,782 What are your thoughts? -People that was accusing him 567 00:30:16,782 --> 00:30:19,017 was of -- of Latino, 568 00:30:19,017 --> 00:30:20,852 which, there's nothing wrong with that right there, 569 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:22,821 but I don't know if they misunderstand him 570 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:24,456 communication-wise. 571 00:30:24,456 --> 00:30:26,692 Far as I know, I've never 572 00:30:26,692 --> 00:30:29,428 heard anybody say anything bad about Dr. Amin. 573 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:30,996 He's a good baby doctor and -- 574 00:30:30,996 --> 00:30:33,031 -Would you, you know, be open to the idea 575 00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:37,402 that maybe Dr. Amin has done great things for families here 576 00:30:37,402 --> 00:30:38,503 in delivering babies 577 00:30:38,503 --> 00:30:40,038 and treating them well... -He has, he has. 578 00:30:40,038 --> 00:30:44,710 -...but then also has maybe done some unethical things, as well? 579 00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:48,213 -If he has, I-I-I had never heard of it, seen it, 580 00:30:48,213 --> 00:30:50,749 or I-I -- 581 00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:52,918 I'd have to see it to believe it. 582 00:30:52,918 --> 00:30:56,988 ♪♪ 583 00:30:56,988 --> 00:30:59,091 [ Door bells jingle ] -Thank you. 584 00:30:59,091 --> 00:31:01,393 -Why do you not believe the allegations? 585 00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:04,262 -You don't hear anybody else that's not in the prison 586 00:31:04,262 --> 00:31:06,031 saying anything. I think -- 587 00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:08,467 I don't -- would still believe that. 588 00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:09,968 -What would be, like, the incentive 589 00:31:09,968 --> 00:31:13,105 for somebody to say this if it wasn't true? 590 00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:15,240 -To make money. To get money. 591 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,011 To get their 15 minutes of fame. 592 00:31:20,011 --> 00:31:23,181 I just -- I just think it's all made-up. 593 00:31:23,181 --> 00:31:25,050 -Mayor Matt, as the town calls him, 594 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:28,320 isn't surprised by the support. He says Irwin County Hospital 595 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,023 was at risk of going under, and Amin basically saved it. 596 00:31:32,023 --> 00:31:36,228 -He may quite literally have kept our hospital open 597 00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:38,563 when others around us are closing, 598 00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:40,832 mostly through delivering babies, like I said. 599 00:31:40,832 --> 00:31:44,035 So I think that's why you saw the groundswell of support. 600 00:31:44,035 --> 00:31:47,639 People who knew him knew the truth. 601 00:31:47,639 --> 00:31:48,807 -But lawyers for the plaintiffs 602 00:31:48,807 --> 00:31:50,776 say his motivation is directly linked 603 00:31:50,776 --> 00:31:53,512 to him bringing "business to Irwin County," 604 00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:56,681 that he did these surgeries to bring in more revenue. 605 00:31:56,681 --> 00:32:00,085 In 2015, Amin and the Hospital Authority of Irwin County 606 00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:01,953 settled a lawsuit that alleged 607 00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:03,321 they billed the federal government 608 00:32:03,321 --> 00:32:05,657 for false Medicare and Medicaid claims, 609 00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,427 though there was no determination of liability. 610 00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:11,930 In 2018, he started seeing ICE detainees. 611 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,932 Lawyers representing Amin patients say 612 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:17,202 by increasing the number and types of procedures, 613 00:32:17,202 --> 00:32:20,138 he could bill the government exponentially more. 614 00:32:20,138 --> 00:32:23,675 -I think Dr. Amin saw an opportunity to -- to make money. 615 00:32:23,675 --> 00:32:25,443 So, first off, women, nobody believes women 616 00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:27,145 when they say anything. 617 00:32:27,145 --> 00:32:30,115 They're immigrants. They're in detention. 618 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:32,083 It was a great opportunity for him. 619 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:35,053 And I'm afraid he's not the only person out there 620 00:32:35,053 --> 00:32:40,559 that opportunistically seizes on detained people to make money. 621 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,060 -As calls for the detention center 622 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:44,696 to be shut down intensify, locals argue 623 00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:46,531 it's the biggest private employer, 624 00:32:46,531 --> 00:32:49,534 and their county heavily relies on its revenue. 625 00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:51,169 How would the community actually be affected 626 00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:52,938 if that detention center went away? 627 00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:56,007 -When you have a multimillion-dollar facility 628 00:32:56,007 --> 00:32:57,943 get -- get knocked down in assessed value, 629 00:32:57,943 --> 00:32:59,644 and of course, that has the trickle effect 630 00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:02,814 of less revenue by a significant amount, 631 00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,349 yeah, that just -- that just affects everything. 632 00:33:04,349 --> 00:33:06,685 So, it's not even just our ability 633 00:33:06,685 --> 00:33:08,086 to provide the normal services. 634 00:33:08,086 --> 00:33:10,488 It's, we want to advance. We want to make things better. 635 00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:12,691 We want to provide new amenities. 636 00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:15,827 And that just, you know, the -- the ripple effect there is -- 637 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:19,798 I don't know if it can be overstated. 638 00:33:19,798 --> 00:33:21,999 -I've been to so many detention centers in the United States. 639 00:33:21,999 --> 00:33:23,401 I know you have, too. 640 00:33:23,401 --> 00:33:26,605 They're very often in rural areas, 641 00:33:26,605 --> 00:33:29,207 remote, 642 00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:31,376 places without a lot of work. 643 00:33:31,376 --> 00:33:35,847 But that is not a reason to keep the detention center open -- 644 00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:37,649 that people rely on it for work. 645 00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:40,352 I don't believe it is. -Mm. 646 00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:43,388 -I don't believe that you can justify 647 00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:47,492 keeping an institution open that is evil 648 00:33:47,492 --> 00:33:52,764 because it it quells or minimizes another evil, 649 00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,100 which is, like, poverty and lack of education 650 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:57,402 and lack of opportunity. 651 00:33:57,402 --> 00:34:00,305 -On May 20th, the Biden administration intervened. 652 00:34:00,305 --> 00:34:02,307 They directed ICE to end its contract 653 00:34:02,307 --> 00:34:05,510 with Irwin County Detention Center as soon as possible, 654 00:34:05,510 --> 00:34:09,981 effectively guaranteeing that it is shut down as an ICE facility. 655 00:34:09,981 --> 00:34:13,451 All of the female detainees have already been removed. 656 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:21,326 -In addition to the women who have already been deported, 657 00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:23,295 we've also found several other women 658 00:34:23,295 --> 00:34:25,297 now released and living in the U.S. 659 00:34:25,297 --> 00:34:26,598 who saw Amin 660 00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:30,502 and still haven't been contacted by federal investigators. 661 00:34:30,502 --> 00:34:32,003 -Hey! 662 00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:35,273 -One of those women is an Anne Alobwede. 663 00:34:35,273 --> 00:34:37,108 -I'm good. 664 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:39,577 How are you doing? 665 00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:43,281 Yeah, I know. [ Laughs ] 666 00:34:43,281 --> 00:34:46,284 I got out December 16th. 667 00:34:46,284 --> 00:34:48,853 -Oh, wow, that's -- -Right before Christmas. Yeah. 668 00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,693 Yes, ma'am, I did. That's... 669 00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:57,162 -Anne came to the U.S. from Cameroon as a teenager. 670 00:34:57,162 --> 00:34:58,797 She was the patient lying next to Mbeti 671 00:34:58,797 --> 00:35:01,166 on the day of their surgeries. -22 months. 672 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:04,936 -This is the first time they've spoken since being released. 673 00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:08,306 -Are you having complications, if I may ask? 674 00:35:13,845 --> 00:35:15,213 Really? 675 00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:31,062 Really? 676 00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:41,373 Yeah. 677 00:35:47,779 --> 00:35:50,281 Yeah, something went wrong, because I -- 678 00:35:50,281 --> 00:35:53,585 I was still having pain, and -- 679 00:36:00,058 --> 00:36:01,559 Yeah. 680 00:36:03,962 --> 00:36:05,864 Yeah. Me, too. 681 00:36:05,864 --> 00:36:07,866 ♪♪ 682 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:09,768 -For the first time since her surgery, 683 00:36:09,768 --> 00:36:12,971 Mbeti has a doctor's appointment to learn what happened to her. 684 00:36:12,971 --> 00:36:15,340 ♪♪ 685 00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:17,242 -I'm kind of nervous 686 00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:20,211 and a little bit anxious, 687 00:36:20,211 --> 00:36:24,115 so we'll see what kind of information I can get. 688 00:36:24,115 --> 00:36:27,018 ♪♪ 689 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:28,520 -This is a moment 690 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,789 that all of these women have been waiting for, 691 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:33,625 you know, just having an appointment 692 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:35,026 after they leave the ICE facility 693 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:36,227 with an independent doctor 694 00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:38,329 who can just tell them what happened to them 695 00:36:38,329 --> 00:36:40,165 and what their health status is. 696 00:36:40,165 --> 00:36:43,301 And specifically for Mbeti, she has one big question. 697 00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:45,437 Will she be able to have kids? 698 00:37:14,332 --> 00:37:16,801 According to Mbeti's records and Dr. Mueller, 699 00:37:16,801 --> 00:37:20,538 Mbeti was given an unnecessary ultrasound, D&C, 700 00:37:20,538 --> 00:37:24,209 scar tissue removal, laparoscopy, and cystectomy, 701 00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:26,711 the surgical removal of a follicular cyst 702 00:37:26,711 --> 00:37:29,013 that didn't need to be removed. 703 00:37:29,013 --> 00:37:30,915 While Mbeti didn't get a hysterectomy, 704 00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:33,985 she could still have trouble carrying a pregnancy. 705 00:37:33,985 --> 00:37:37,388 -It's important to remember that surgical procedures, 706 00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:39,824 even if they weren't hysterectomy, 707 00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:44,996 can have bearing on a woman's future fertility. 708 00:37:44,996 --> 00:37:48,399 -I had a look at the ultrasound, 709 00:37:48,399 --> 00:37:50,502 and if I were to get pregnant, 710 00:37:50,502 --> 00:37:54,272 I would have a complicated pregnancy. 711 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:58,076 And that's what I'm really thinking in the back of my head. 712 00:37:58,076 --> 00:38:01,513 It was a relief to see that I had my uterus. 713 00:38:03,515 --> 00:38:06,818 I know that I still have a long way to go. 714 00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:10,989 ♪♪ 715 00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:14,893 I mean, being a mom is -- is almost every girl's dream. 716 00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:20,298 Having that threatened is -- is really very scary. 717 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,667 -While the class-action litigation is still pending, 718 00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:25,737 Mbeti's lawyers are working to secure her a new visa 719 00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:27,772 which protects victims of criminal activity 720 00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:30,141 who testify in that investigation. 721 00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:31,709 If both are denied, 722 00:38:31,709 --> 00:38:34,345 Mbeti could be immediately deported to Kenya, 723 00:38:34,345 --> 00:38:37,115 where she has no support system. 724 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,921 -After an intense legal process, 725 00:38:42,921 --> 00:38:46,791 a U.S. judge agreed to reopen Yuridia's immigration case, 726 00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:50,261 an outcome so rare that experienced lawyers only see it 727 00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:52,797 a handful of times in their career. 728 00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:54,632 This means that Yuridia and her daughters 729 00:38:54,632 --> 00:38:58,703 can now legally reenter the U.S. 730 00:38:58,703 --> 00:39:01,973 We're back in Saltillo to visit with Yuridia and her family. 731 00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:04,809 Against all odds, Yuridia and her six daughters 732 00:39:04,809 --> 00:39:07,812 will be getting on a flight tomorrow for the U.S. 733 00:39:07,812 --> 00:39:11,382 to start the process to get permanent status. 734 00:39:24,529 --> 00:39:26,364 How are you feeling about tomorrow? 735 00:39:40,144 --> 00:39:44,582 -♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 736 00:39:44,582 --> 00:39:46,551 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 737 00:40:01,266 --> 00:40:03,101 -How do you imagine the moment 738 00:40:03,101 --> 00:40:06,237 when you step foot back in the U.S.? 739 00:40:11,643 --> 00:40:13,244 -[ Speaks Spanish ] 740 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:40,972 [ Laughs ] 741 00:40:40,972 --> 00:40:46,377 ♪♪ 742 00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:49,013 [ Man speaking indistinctly over intercom ] 743 00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:54,252 ♪♪ 744 00:40:54,252 --> 00:40:59,457 ♪♪ 745 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,360 -So, we're just getting out of customs and baggage claim, 746 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,296 and they haven't made it out yet. 747 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:06,597 We were told to go one direction, 748 00:41:06,597 --> 00:41:08,866 and the ICE officers took them into another office. 749 00:41:08,866 --> 00:41:12,737 So now really, it's just -- It's a waiting game. 750 00:41:12,737 --> 00:41:14,105 Yuridia's immigration attorneys 751 00:41:14,105 --> 00:41:16,841 have been preparing for this moment for months. 752 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:18,810 If Yuridia makes it through immigration, 753 00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:21,546 this will be the first time they're meeting. 754 00:41:21,546 --> 00:41:22,914 How you guys feeling? 755 00:41:22,914 --> 00:41:24,716 -Excited. Overwhelmed. 756 00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:26,684 We didn't expect it to take as long as it did, 757 00:41:26,684 --> 00:41:28,486 but we're just glad that it's here. 758 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:31,022 -I mean, we've thought about her and the kids for so long, 759 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,323 and we've never met her. 760 00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:34,959 So we're just beyond excited to meet her in person. 761 00:41:34,959 --> 00:41:37,362 -Is there anything that's concerning you right now? 762 00:41:37,362 --> 00:41:40,164 -Honestly, just her getting here to be with us, 763 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,368 and then once -- Like, it just has felt really difficult, 764 00:41:43,368 --> 00:41:44,602 her being so far away 765 00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:46,471 and, like, things being so out of our control. 766 00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:48,272 So it feels reassuring to have her here 767 00:41:48,272 --> 00:41:49,974 and feel like we'll have a little bit more control 768 00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:52,243 over how things go and the flow of the case. 769 00:41:52,243 --> 00:41:55,646 And going forward, we'll see how everything goes. 770 00:41:55,646 --> 00:41:57,715 ♪♪ 771 00:41:57,715 --> 00:41:59,584 -She get through customs? 772 00:41:59,584 --> 00:42:02,053 -She said [Speaks Spanish] so I'm asking her... 773 00:42:02,053 --> 00:42:05,656 -Okay. -...what is next. 774 00:42:05,656 --> 00:42:07,825 -She's typing. 775 00:42:07,825 --> 00:42:10,328 -[ Speaks Spanish ] -Okay. 776 00:42:10,328 --> 00:42:13,664 -What is it, 100 person? 777 00:42:13,664 --> 00:42:15,466 -Yeah. Oh, the office is asking? 778 00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:17,869 -Yes, I texted it to her earlier. 779 00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:20,037 ♪♪ 780 00:42:20,037 --> 00:42:21,539 She said they're almost done. 781 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:22,573 -Oh, great. Okay. 782 00:42:22,573 --> 00:42:24,375 -[ Sighs ] We're going to burst. 783 00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:27,612 [ Laughs ] 784 00:42:27,612 --> 00:42:30,515 That's them. Is that Yuridia? 785 00:42:30,515 --> 00:42:33,818 [ Laughter ] 786 00:42:33,818 --> 00:42:36,154 Oh, you guys are so cute! 787 00:42:39,524 --> 00:42:41,893 Nice to meet you! 788 00:42:44,362 --> 00:42:46,030 [ Laughs ] 789 00:43:05,183 --> 00:43:07,084 [ Laughter ] 790 00:43:12,356 --> 00:43:13,891 -Yuridia and her daughters have started 791 00:43:13,891 --> 00:43:15,893 to rebuild their life again in the U.S. 792 00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:18,429 while her immigration case continues to unfold. 793 00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:19,931 -Cheese! -Cheese! 794 00:43:49,927 --> 00:43:56,968 ♪♪ 795 00:43:56,968 --> 00:44:04,008 ♪♪