1 00:00:02,167 --> 00:00:04,000 NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch... 2 00:00:04,125 --> 00:00:06,458 BRANDON: Talk about a perfect test pad 3 00:00:06,583 --> 00:00:10,125 that seems to be a sister location to Skinwalker Ranch. 4 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:11,667 What is that that we're lookin' at? 5 00:00:11,833 --> 00:00:13,333 I don't know. 6 00:00:13,417 --> 00:00:16,167 -ANDY: What was that? -The temperature went up. 7 00:00:16,292 --> 00:00:18,500 -GUY: It just did it again. -PAUL: It did it. 8 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:19,833 PAUL: That's really weird. 9 00:00:19,958 --> 00:00:21,833 -[beeping] -What was that? 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,000 -Right there. -ANDY: There it is. 11 00:00:23,125 --> 00:00:24,417 It's getting more intense. 12 00:00:24,542 --> 00:00:26,333 What is that thing? 13 00:00:27,542 --> 00:00:30,458 NARRATOR: For years, scientists have been working 14 00:00:30,583 --> 00:00:34,042 to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 15 00:00:34,208 --> 00:00:37,417 But is it possible that the clues to unlock the mystery 16 00:00:37,542 --> 00:00:42,833 are located beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 17 00:00:42,958 --> 00:00:44,208 -Now... -Whoa! 18 00:00:44,375 --> 00:00:46,000 NARRATOR: ...an ex-CIA agent 19 00:00:46,167 --> 00:00:48,583 and a veteran journalist have been recruited 20 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:50,250 by the Skinwalker team 21 00:00:50,375 --> 00:00:52,458 to go on a high-stakes mission across America. 22 00:00:52,583 --> 00:00:54,333 Look at all this activity that's happening. 23 00:00:54,458 --> 00:00:56,083 -WOMAN: That's unbelievable. -MAN: Oh my gosh, 24 00:00:56,208 --> 00:00:57,792 Look at that, look at that, look at that. 25 00:00:57,917 --> 00:00:59,375 NARRATOR: The goal: uncover evidence 26 00:00:59,542 --> 00:01:01,333 that may finally expose the truth. 27 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:04,083 -What is that thing? -It's getting more intense. 28 00:01:04,208 --> 00:01:05,667 PAUL: You ever see anything like this before? 29 00:01:05,833 --> 00:01:07,292 ANDY: No. 30 00:01:07,417 --> 00:01:09,208 ♪ 31 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:11,792 ANDY: This is just the beginning. 32 00:01:14,583 --> 00:01:16,000 TRAVIS: Sound like Brandon's here? 33 00:01:16,083 --> 00:01:17,375 BRANDON: Hey gentlemen, 34 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:19,333 it's time to launch our new initiative. 35 00:01:19,458 --> 00:01:21,333 I'd like you to meet our two new investigators, 36 00:01:21,458 --> 00:01:23,958 Andy Bustamante and Paul Beban. 37 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:26,000 -ERIK: Mornin'. -Paul. Hey, how are you? 38 00:01:26,125 --> 00:01:27,917 Nice to meet you. Hey, Paul. Nice to meet you. 39 00:01:28,042 --> 00:01:30,333 These are the new members of our team. 40 00:01:31,208 --> 00:01:33,750 We're anxious to launch efforts 41 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:35,542 and have a lot to discuss 42 00:01:35,708 --> 00:01:39,000 as we take our investigation beyond Skinwalker Ranch 43 00:01:39,167 --> 00:01:40,958 to some of these other sites of interest. 44 00:01:41,083 --> 00:01:42,875 We appreciate your qualifications. 45 00:01:43,042 --> 00:01:45,375 We have two professionals here 46 00:01:45,542 --> 00:01:49,042 that I think are a true complement to our effort. 47 00:01:49,208 --> 00:01:52,250 Andy is a graduate of the Air Force Academy, 48 00:01:52,375 --> 00:01:56,667 former CIA investigator and retired Air Force. 49 00:01:56,792 --> 00:02:00,417 Paul Beban is an Emmy Award-winning journalist 50 00:02:00,542 --> 00:02:03,000 with ABC and PBS 51 00:02:03,167 --> 00:02:06,250 and brings a level of expertise and depth 52 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:08,833 to the investigation and documenting, 53 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,667 really, what we will be engaging with 54 00:02:11,792 --> 00:02:14,375 the sites as we proceed forward. 55 00:02:14,542 --> 00:02:16,375 -That is impressive. -PAUL: Well, we're excited 56 00:02:16,542 --> 00:02:18,417 to join the effort and sort of see how 57 00:02:18,542 --> 00:02:19,833 all of our skill sets fit together 58 00:02:19,958 --> 00:02:21,667 and, you know, get started. 59 00:02:21,833 --> 00:02:24,333 Erik and I have been talkin' about this for a long time, 60 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:26,708 and we've been kind of running this idea by Brandon 61 00:02:26,833 --> 00:02:31,167 that Skinwalker Ranch, while it is a unique place, 62 00:02:31,292 --> 00:02:33,625 it might not be the only place around the globe 63 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:36,958 that has a very interesting phenomenon to be observed. 64 00:02:37,042 --> 00:02:39,375 But our bandwidth is getting filled 65 00:02:39,542 --> 00:02:42,083 with all of the research and investigation here. 66 00:02:42,208 --> 00:02:44,625 We need a task force, a special ops team, 67 00:02:44,750 --> 00:02:47,083 that can help inform what we're doing here 68 00:02:47,208 --> 00:02:49,000 and maybe what our next experiments will be. 69 00:02:49,125 --> 00:02:51,750 So, your goal is to find the places 70 00:02:51,875 --> 00:02:54,625 that have the weird stories, take scientific measurements, 71 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:58,042 collect data and even poke the hornet's nest 72 00:02:58,167 --> 00:02:59,375 and see if any hornets fly out. 73 00:02:59,542 --> 00:03:01,042 We've got to see what's goin' on, 74 00:03:01,167 --> 00:03:03,250 and it will help us understand: 75 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:05,083 is-- is Skinwalker Ranch 76 00:03:05,208 --> 00:03:08,042 isolated, very unique, nothin' else is like it? 77 00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:10,667 Or is it connected to something bigger? 78 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:13,333 And I think that's what you guys are gonna help us figure out. 79 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:17,042 We'd like to arm you with many of the third party experts 80 00:03:17,208 --> 00:03:18,875 that have aided the investigation 81 00:03:19,042 --> 00:03:20,875 here at Skinwalker Ranch. 82 00:03:21,042 --> 00:03:22,917 Not only to establish some continuity, 83 00:03:23,042 --> 00:03:25,292 but to provide a level of resource. 84 00:03:25,375 --> 00:03:29,750 Skinwalker Ranch is base camp to deploy assets. 85 00:03:29,875 --> 00:03:33,458 We see you truly as an extension of our investigation. 86 00:03:33,542 --> 00:03:36,083 So, Paul and Andy, as-- as your work follows 87 00:03:36,208 --> 00:03:37,958 the model of what we've established here 88 00:03:38,042 --> 00:03:40,792 at Skinwalker Ranch, I fully expect as you collect your data 89 00:03:40,917 --> 00:03:42,792 and you're led by your data, 90 00:03:42,917 --> 00:03:44,250 your findings will help us 91 00:03:44,375 --> 00:03:46,500 to evolve our process here at the ranch. 92 00:03:46,625 --> 00:03:48,000 Yeah, I mean, Paul and I come in 93 00:03:48,125 --> 00:03:49,500 really comfortable with field work. 94 00:03:49,625 --> 00:03:51,250 We're used to going out there in front, 95 00:03:51,375 --> 00:03:52,958 not really knowing what we're stepping into, 96 00:03:53,083 --> 00:03:54,500 getting shot at, and then coming back 97 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,500 with whatever information and intel we can collect. 98 00:03:56,625 --> 00:03:59,083 Hopefully, we won't get shot at or tear gassed 99 00:03:59,208 --> 00:04:00,792 or any of the things that have happened 100 00:04:00,917 --> 00:04:02,417 uh, in my previous line of work, 101 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,375 but, you know, we're-- we're ready for anything 102 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:06,000 and we're excited to get out there. 103 00:04:06,125 --> 00:04:07,333 Given what we know, 104 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:09,292 I think, you know, our first project, 105 00:04:09,417 --> 00:04:11,667 not too far away, but with so many similar characteristics, 106 00:04:11,792 --> 00:04:13,542 is-- is gonna be really interesting for you guys. 107 00:04:13,708 --> 00:04:15,875 -Please, do tell. -Well, you've got my attention. 108 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 ANDY: So, we came into a book called Merging Dimensions. 109 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:22,167 It references a ranch, Bradshaw Ranch. 110 00:04:22,292 --> 00:04:24,833 It's not far from a place called Sedona, Arizona, 111 00:04:24,958 --> 00:04:27,583 which is commonly known, even in tourist circles, 112 00:04:27,708 --> 00:04:30,000 as an area that in and of itself is strange. 113 00:04:30,083 --> 00:04:32,208 Wonderful. I have heard just a little 114 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:34,292 about both of these locations. 115 00:04:34,417 --> 00:04:36,625 You couldn't have picked a better place to start. 116 00:04:38,458 --> 00:04:41,208 ANDY: So, the ranch itself has actually had reports 117 00:04:41,333 --> 00:04:42,792 of UFO sightings... 118 00:04:43,917 --> 00:04:44,917 orb sightings... 119 00:04:45,417 --> 00:04:47,458 -strange creatures. -PAUL: Yup. 120 00:04:47,583 --> 00:04:50,833 PAUL: The backstory of Bradshaw Ranch is fascinating. 121 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,708 Bob Bradshaw was really an old-school cowboy 122 00:04:54,875 --> 00:04:57,667 who ended up turning this place into a movie set. 123 00:04:58,125 --> 00:04:59,458 Elvis movies were filmed there. 124 00:04:59,583 --> 00:05:01,208 I mean, this place was a bustling scene. 125 00:05:01,333 --> 00:05:04,333 It was a home. It was a working film set. 126 00:05:04,458 --> 00:05:07,875 At the same time, he and his family 127 00:05:08,042 --> 00:05:11,333 were experiencing, you know, all kinds of high strangeness 128 00:05:11,458 --> 00:05:13,833 in a time when it just really wasn't spoken of. 129 00:05:13,917 --> 00:05:16,000 I mean, he had a business to run out there. 130 00:05:16,125 --> 00:05:18,583 We saw this spaceship. 131 00:05:18,708 --> 00:05:22,125 They were traveling fast down that hillside 132 00:05:22,208 --> 00:05:23,708 and right into the ranch. 133 00:05:23,875 --> 00:05:27,833 It was really so-- A spectacular thing to see. 134 00:05:28,875 --> 00:05:31,417 BRANDON: Talk about a perfect test pad 135 00:05:31,542 --> 00:05:35,292 that seems to be a sister location to Skinwalker Ranch. 136 00:05:35,417 --> 00:05:37,458 One thing that Bradshaw Ranch 137 00:05:37,583 --> 00:05:39,583 seems to have in common with Skinwalker Ranch 138 00:05:39,708 --> 00:05:43,167 is the diversity of activity and phenomena. 139 00:05:43,292 --> 00:05:45,167 We're gonna start with the data. 140 00:05:45,333 --> 00:05:46,708 We're gonna run experiments out there, 141 00:05:46,875 --> 00:05:48,875 we're gonna see if we can measure these phenomena, 142 00:05:49,042 --> 00:05:51,250 and we're gonna talk to as many people as we can 143 00:05:51,375 --> 00:05:53,458 and try to get the facts of the backstory. 144 00:05:53,542 --> 00:05:55,625 ANDY: We've been able to establish contact 145 00:05:55,708 --> 00:05:58,583 with the previous owner of the ranch, John Bradshaw. 146 00:05:58,708 --> 00:06:00,667 His son, Mason, is with him as well. 147 00:06:00,792 --> 00:06:02,333 They're the first people we plan on talking to 148 00:06:02,458 --> 00:06:03,708 when we land on the ground. 149 00:06:03,875 --> 00:06:05,000 Well, I'm absolutely 150 00:06:05,125 --> 00:06:06,542 intrigued by this, and I can't wait 151 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:08,542 to see what you guys find and report back. 152 00:06:08,667 --> 00:06:11,083 Just filled with anticipation. Wishing you the best of luck. 153 00:06:11,208 --> 00:06:12,917 Yeah, yeah. Good luck, gentlemen. 154 00:06:13,042 --> 00:06:15,958 PAUL: All right. So, we're off. We'll let you know what we find. 155 00:06:17,042 --> 00:06:18,833 [eerie music] 156 00:06:23,833 --> 00:06:28,208 PAUL: Man, you could not ask for a more spectacular location 157 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:30,542 to start our investigation, right? 158 00:06:30,708 --> 00:06:32,583 I mean, look at this place. It's just stunning. 159 00:06:32,708 --> 00:06:34,208 ANDY: Yeah, absolutely. 160 00:06:34,375 --> 00:06:35,958 PAUL: I mean, there's Sedona itself, 161 00:06:36,042 --> 00:06:37,417 and then Bradshaw Ranch. 162 00:06:37,542 --> 00:06:39,667 ANDY: Yes, if you consider Bradshaw Ranch, 163 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:43,333 you've got multiple types of high strangeness 164 00:06:43,417 --> 00:06:45,000 that already correlate with the high strangeness 165 00:06:45,125 --> 00:06:47,667 that they've recorded in phenomenon at Skinwalker Ranch. 166 00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:49,792 -PAUL: Right. -ANDY: Light orbs, 167 00:06:49,917 --> 00:06:53,250 Skinwalkers themselves and portals. 168 00:06:53,375 --> 00:06:55,542 PAUL: There are a lot of accounts here 169 00:06:55,708 --> 00:06:58,333 -that sound pretty fantastic. -Pretty fantastic. 170 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:00,000 And pretty far-fetched, right? 171 00:07:00,125 --> 00:07:03,458 So the question is: how much are we going to be willing 172 00:07:03,542 --> 00:07:06,542 to accept, as CIA agents, investigative journalists? 173 00:07:06,667 --> 00:07:10,250 Where are we gonna say, "Okay, this is something here on earth. 174 00:07:10,375 --> 00:07:12,917 "It could be real and true." 175 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:15,417 The whole point of what we're doin' here 176 00:07:15,542 --> 00:07:17,625 is pin these extraordinary stories, 177 00:07:17,708 --> 00:07:20,833 these anecdotes and experiences, to reality, right? 178 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,875 We're gonna use the scientific method. 179 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,625 We're gonna try to do more interviews. 180 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:26,333 We're gonna run some experiments. 181 00:07:26,458 --> 00:07:29,500 Are there ways to connect what seems extraordinary 182 00:07:29,625 --> 00:07:33,417 to actual facts on the ground right here in the world 183 00:07:33,542 --> 00:07:36,417 that aren't just, you know, a tall tale? 184 00:07:36,542 --> 00:07:37,833 So, what I've experienced in the field, 185 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:39,458 and I'm sure you've seen it too, Paul, 186 00:07:39,583 --> 00:07:41,333 is when you talk to an eyewitness... 187 00:07:41,458 --> 00:07:43,000 -Yeah. -...they believe what they saw. 188 00:07:43,125 --> 00:07:44,583 But the real magic happens 189 00:07:44,708 --> 00:07:47,625 when you can create bulletproof evidence 190 00:07:47,750 --> 00:07:50,583 separate from the eyewitness experience itself. 191 00:07:50,708 --> 00:07:52,333 -Something you can measure. -Yeah. 192 00:07:52,458 --> 00:07:53,833 Because that brings a whole new level 193 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,833 of depth and utility to the eyewitness account. 194 00:07:58,792 --> 00:08:01,625 Now, in my time with CIA, I've seen some crazy things. 195 00:08:01,708 --> 00:08:03,625 Things that nobody thought was possible, 196 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:05,667 and for sure things that nobody believed, 197 00:08:05,792 --> 00:08:07,917 but they still proved to be true in the end. 198 00:08:08,042 --> 00:08:10,667 It's really important when you show up to do an investigation, 199 00:08:10,792 --> 00:08:13,208 you have to be open to all the possibilities. 200 00:08:13,375 --> 00:08:14,667 Because if you rule something out 201 00:08:14,833 --> 00:08:16,625 based on your own personal bias, 202 00:08:16,708 --> 00:08:18,667 you might miss the most important piece. 203 00:08:18,833 --> 00:08:20,667 It gives you a thread to pull 204 00:08:20,833 --> 00:08:23,792 and then you layer that with real scientific research 205 00:08:23,917 --> 00:08:26,083 and you get to see where that data takes you. 206 00:08:26,208 --> 00:08:28,375 Well, now we're gonna put that to the test. 207 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:30,667 And we have the benefit of the experience 208 00:08:30,792 --> 00:08:33,417 of the team at Skinwalker to bear on this place, 209 00:08:33,542 --> 00:08:35,375 which is really untested. 210 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,875 Yeah, we're visiting other hornets nests. 211 00:08:38,042 --> 00:08:39,250 [laughing] That's right. 212 00:08:39,375 --> 00:08:41,083 We're adding to the list of hornets nests 213 00:08:41,208 --> 00:08:42,292 that we're gonna poke. 214 00:08:42,417 --> 00:08:43,917 ♪ 215 00:08:44,042 --> 00:08:46,750 -PAUL: Well, here we are -ANDY: Amazing. 216 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:50,083 -How's it goin'? -ANDY: Hi there. 217 00:08:50,208 --> 00:08:51,500 -John. -Mason. 218 00:08:51,625 --> 00:08:52,708 PAUL: Hey, good to meet you. 219 00:08:52,833 --> 00:08:54,042 Thank you for meeting us. 220 00:08:54,208 --> 00:08:55,875 There's so much mystery here. 221 00:08:56,042 --> 00:08:58,000 Maybe just tell us a little bit about 222 00:08:58,083 --> 00:08:59,500 what's the deal out here. 223 00:08:59,583 --> 00:09:02,167 Well, so it's a lot of legacies and stories 224 00:09:02,292 --> 00:09:05,000 and just things that are out there that people know about. 225 00:09:05,083 --> 00:09:06,750 We're not gonna tell you what to believe, 226 00:09:06,875 --> 00:09:08,792 -but this is what's out there. -PAUL: Sure. 227 00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:10,917 JOHN: It was about 1995, probably. 228 00:09:11,042 --> 00:09:14,917 My step mom, Linda, was living out here with my dad. 229 00:09:15,708 --> 00:09:18,417 They were doin' dishes and watching TV one night, 230 00:09:18,542 --> 00:09:21,417 and all of a sudden, Linda looked out the window 231 00:09:21,542 --> 00:09:23,667 and there was what appeared to be 232 00:09:23,792 --> 00:09:25,667 another time and space 233 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:27,708 merging our dimension with another dimension, 234 00:09:27,875 --> 00:09:30,917 almost like a projection screen on a theater. 235 00:09:31,042 --> 00:09:33,958 PAUL: So, we're talking about some kind of space-time portal? 236 00:09:34,042 --> 00:09:35,625 JOHN: That's what she thought it was, yeah. 237 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:36,958 -Okay. -It's actually really close 238 00:09:37,083 --> 00:09:38,667 to where we're standing right now. 239 00:09:38,792 --> 00:09:40,250 ANDY: Great. Well, you lead the way. 240 00:09:40,375 --> 00:09:41,417 JOHN: Let's go. 241 00:09:41,542 --> 00:09:42,625 PAUL: There's a saying 242 00:09:42,708 --> 00:09:44,167 that extraordinary claims 243 00:09:44,292 --> 00:09:45,833 require extraordinary evidence. 244 00:09:45,917 --> 00:09:49,333 At the same time, when someone tells me straight-faced, 245 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,500 someone credible like the Bradshaws, 246 00:09:51,625 --> 00:09:55,667 that an interdimensional portal opened up, 247 00:09:55,792 --> 00:09:57,458 that's an amazing story. 248 00:09:57,542 --> 00:10:00,542 I want to know more about that, but I also need some facts. 249 00:10:00,667 --> 00:10:02,000 I need some evidence. 250 00:10:02,125 --> 00:10:04,167 So, I'm open to this, but I need more 251 00:10:04,292 --> 00:10:06,667 before I'm willing to say, "You know what? You're right." 252 00:10:06,792 --> 00:10:08,667 ANDY: What I'd like to do is take a few measurements. 253 00:10:08,833 --> 00:10:10,958 PAUL: All right. Well, let's get started. Let's get to work. 254 00:10:11,042 --> 00:10:12,458 ANDY: All right. 255 00:10:12,583 --> 00:10:14,667 NARRATOR: Since radiation has been 256 00:10:14,792 --> 00:10:16,792 a serious safety problem on Skinwalker Ranch... 257 00:10:16,875 --> 00:10:18,750 -TRAVIS: Mine's beepin'. -MAN: Your max is about 120? 258 00:10:18,875 --> 00:10:20,792 -Yes, 120 somethin'. -That's pretty high. 259 00:10:20,875 --> 00:10:23,375 NARRATOR: ...Andy and Paul have brought in radiation expert 260 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,875 and Skinwalker veteran Casey Smith, 261 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:29,000 to survey the entire property for radioactive levels 262 00:10:29,083 --> 00:10:31,542 and locate any concerning anomalies. 263 00:10:31,708 --> 00:10:33,375 -CASEY: 'Sup, guys? -JOHN: Great to see you. 264 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,667 -Good to see you guys. -What's goin' on? 265 00:10:35,833 --> 00:10:37,458 Just seein' if we get any radiation measurements out here. 266 00:10:37,583 --> 00:10:39,208 PAUL: I was gonna say, what do you got? 267 00:10:39,375 --> 00:10:40,500 I got a new toy this year. 268 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:42,083 This is a gamma cam, 269 00:10:42,208 --> 00:10:44,333 and we're actually getting visuals of any radiation 270 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:45,917 that's actually populating around us. 271 00:10:46,042 --> 00:10:48,542 NARRATOR: The gamma camera from H3D 272 00:10:48,667 --> 00:10:50,917 is a high-resolution imaging system 273 00:10:51,042 --> 00:10:53,833 that can record visuals of flowing radiation. 274 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,917 [beeping] 275 00:10:55,042 --> 00:10:56,708 The camera also collects data 276 00:10:56,833 --> 00:10:59,125 of the volume, intensity and composition 277 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:02,917 of any radioactive material that might be present. 278 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:05,125 So, Casey, this is gonna paint a different picture 279 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:07,083 from what you've seen out at Skinwalker, is that right? 280 00:11:07,208 --> 00:11:09,625 CASEY: Yeah, so with the imaging software on here, 281 00:11:09,708 --> 00:11:11,333 it's just nice to be able to actually see, 282 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,833 if there is radiation, where is it actually coming from? 283 00:11:13,958 --> 00:11:15,667 You look at some of the events that happened 284 00:11:15,833 --> 00:11:17,417 up at Skinwalker Ranch, Travis got, you know, 285 00:11:17,542 --> 00:11:18,833 potentially burned with-- 286 00:11:18,958 --> 00:11:20,750 On the skin with some radiation burns. 287 00:11:20,875 --> 00:11:22,792 TRAVIS: That could be a tunnel entrance for all we know. 288 00:11:22,917 --> 00:11:24,458 I'd like to know what's in this thing. 289 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:25,958 Don't lift it up. 290 00:11:26,083 --> 00:11:27,833 Feel like, uh, I've got a little bit 291 00:11:27,958 --> 00:11:29,667 of a headache or somethin' happenin'. 292 00:11:29,833 --> 00:11:32,208 The next day, I noticed weird red marks 293 00:11:32,333 --> 00:11:33,583 on my hand and my head. 294 00:11:33,708 --> 00:11:34,917 ♪ 295 00:11:35,042 --> 00:11:36,708 They were radiation burns. 296 00:11:36,833 --> 00:11:38,667 You know, we don't know where it came from. 297 00:11:38,792 --> 00:11:40,667 So, if you had somethin' like that, maybe you can see-- 298 00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:42,167 "Hey, there's somethin' that came out 299 00:11:42,292 --> 00:11:44,000 "from the sky or the ground or whatever." 300 00:11:44,125 --> 00:11:45,917 But with this, you'll be able to pinpoint it. 301 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:47,000 CASEY: Yeah. 302 00:11:47,125 --> 00:11:48,583 Can I take this for a test drive? 303 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:50,083 Absolutely. So, I got a couple 304 00:11:50,208 --> 00:11:52,000 other pieces of equipment over here too. 305 00:11:52,167 --> 00:11:54,375 I'll grab that as well, but let's take this guy off here. 306 00:11:54,542 --> 00:11:55,917 Excellent. Thank you. 307 00:11:56,042 --> 00:11:57,958 -Mason, you wanna come with me? -MASON: Oh, yeah. 308 00:11:58,083 --> 00:11:59,917 I wanna check out some of what we see 309 00:12:00,042 --> 00:12:01,417 around these old remains. 310 00:12:01,542 --> 00:12:03,167 [gamma cam beeping steadily] 311 00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:07,083 So, I'm not seeing anything that looks dangerous. 312 00:12:07,208 --> 00:12:10,167 Organic matter releasing energy is what we would expect to see. 313 00:12:10,292 --> 00:12:12,542 -CASEY: This guy here. -PAUL: What do we got? 314 00:12:12,667 --> 00:12:13,833 This is an identiFINDER. 315 00:12:13,958 --> 00:12:15,583 It's got a sodium iodide crystal in it. 316 00:12:15,708 --> 00:12:17,167 PAUL: Is the idea that you're basically 317 00:12:17,292 --> 00:12:19,000 -just scanning to-- -Yeah, you're just watching 318 00:12:19,083 --> 00:12:20,958 for the dose rates, if anything changes. 319 00:12:21,083 --> 00:12:22,625 [identiFINDER beeping loudly] 320 00:12:22,750 --> 00:12:24,333 CASEY: Let me walk over and check these guys 321 00:12:24,458 --> 00:12:26,125 -and make sure they're goin'. -PAUL: Sure. Sure. 322 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:27,750 Ideally, for our own personal safety, 323 00:12:27,875 --> 00:12:29,292 we don't want to see anything. 324 00:12:29,417 --> 00:12:30,375 However, if we do see something, 325 00:12:30,542 --> 00:12:32,167 maybe there's some connection 326 00:12:32,333 --> 00:12:34,625 with all the strange things that your family and others 327 00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:36,667 have reported out here over the years. 328 00:12:36,833 --> 00:12:38,000 ANDY: Check this out. 329 00:12:38,167 --> 00:12:39,542 The ranch house is that direction. 330 00:12:39,708 --> 00:12:41,083 -MASON: Yep. -You see that hot spot? 331 00:12:41,208 --> 00:12:42,917 -Yeah. -MASON: There to the left. 332 00:12:43,042 --> 00:12:44,792 ANDY: Yeah, you see it radiating into the sky? 333 00:12:44,875 --> 00:12:46,333 MASON: Mm-hmm. 334 00:12:46,458 --> 00:12:48,333 ANDY: That's a concentrated area and a pinpoint. 335 00:12:48,417 --> 00:12:49,875 CASEY: Well, that's interesting. 336 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,583 ANDY: What is that that we're lookin' at? 337 00:12:51,708 --> 00:12:53,167 [gamma cam beeping intensifying] 338 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:55,750 -I don't know. -[beeping intensifying] 339 00:13:02,833 --> 00:13:04,208 CASEY: It's like a-- Yeah, we got, like, 340 00:13:04,333 --> 00:13:06,542 a big streak over here, and the streak-- 341 00:13:06,708 --> 00:13:09,000 ANDY: It's, like, bridging the bottom of the screen to the top. 342 00:13:09,125 --> 00:13:11,083 CASEY: Yeah. The red spots that we're seeing are high intensity. 343 00:13:11,208 --> 00:13:12,500 Is it dangerous what we're looking at? 344 00:13:12,667 --> 00:13:14,125 Right now, we're pretty low. 345 00:13:14,208 --> 00:13:15,875 I would suspect that we would see some spots 346 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,208 that's gonna be our naturally occurring radiation 347 00:13:18,333 --> 00:13:20,292 that's in the ground, thorium, uranium. 348 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:22,875 The streaking that's going off up into the sky, 349 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,833 that's strange to me. 350 00:13:24,917 --> 00:13:26,833 To see this patch of organic radiation 351 00:13:26,917 --> 00:13:28,500 in the direction of the ranch house? 352 00:13:28,625 --> 00:13:30,375 It just leaves me baffled. 353 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:33,875 This is a clear anomaly that's in an area that has 354 00:13:34,042 --> 00:13:36,500 been reported multiple times for high strangeness. 355 00:13:36,667 --> 00:13:37,750 What have you got, man? 356 00:13:37,875 --> 00:13:39,292 ANDY: So check this out. 357 00:13:39,375 --> 00:13:41,500 We've been chasing kind of a pinpoint red dot 358 00:13:41,667 --> 00:13:43,083 -across the field. -Okay. 359 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:45,083 Which makes it interesting. And then we also see 360 00:13:45,208 --> 00:13:47,000 this strange climbing into the sky. 361 00:13:47,125 --> 00:13:49,000 -Do you see that? -What is that arc? 362 00:13:49,167 --> 00:13:51,542 It seems to be radiating up into the atmosphere. 363 00:13:51,708 --> 00:13:53,125 I don't know what that is. 364 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:55,083 PAUL: This is happening in real time. 365 00:13:55,208 --> 00:13:57,375 And Casey, who's an expert, is telling us 366 00:13:57,542 --> 00:13:59,917 he's never seen anything like this before. 367 00:14:00,042 --> 00:14:02,667 It feels like we're on to something right off the bat. 368 00:14:02,833 --> 00:14:05,042 Is there a way to sort of hone in on it? 369 00:14:05,208 --> 00:14:07,708 Let me give it to you so you can get a good view. 370 00:14:07,875 --> 00:14:09,250 Yeah. Here. Let me trade you. Okay. 371 00:14:09,375 --> 00:14:10,792 -[beeping intensifying] -ANDY: So that-- 372 00:14:10,875 --> 00:14:12,167 This is the source in the ground, 373 00:14:12,292 --> 00:14:14,042 and that's radiation into the sky. 374 00:14:14,167 --> 00:14:16,292 -Do you see it taking off? -Whoa, what happened? 375 00:14:16,375 --> 00:14:19,083 -CASEY: We just lost the image. -ANDY: Is the camera failing? 376 00:14:19,208 --> 00:14:21,667 The source disappeared and then the camera. 377 00:14:21,833 --> 00:14:22,833 PAUL: Well, they're not-- 378 00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:24,875 They go in and out. 379 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,875 CASEY: Yeah, it's gone. All of it's gone now. 380 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,625 You can't get the camera back up at all. 381 00:14:28,750 --> 00:14:30,833 The minute I gave this over to Paul 382 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,292 and he talked about homing in 383 00:14:32,417 --> 00:14:33,833 to track this thing down, it failed. 384 00:14:33,958 --> 00:14:36,125 PAUL: That is just so weird. 385 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:38,167 ANDY: Almost like it doesn't wanna be found. 386 00:14:38,333 --> 00:14:40,333 What I'll do with the data that we've collected, 387 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:42,750 I need to go pull it into the visualizer software, 388 00:14:42,875 --> 00:14:45,667 take a look at it, look for those peaks 389 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:47,167 that I saw up at Skinwalker Ranch 390 00:14:47,292 --> 00:14:48,958 and see if they're occurring here. 391 00:14:49,042 --> 00:14:51,000 I also want to kind of keep poking around 392 00:14:51,083 --> 00:14:52,542 and take some more measurements. 393 00:14:52,708 --> 00:14:53,667 ANDY: Terrific. 394 00:14:54,625 --> 00:14:57,083 NARRATOR: With a strange radiation anomaly detected, 395 00:14:57,208 --> 00:14:59,000 but an all-clear from Casey, 396 00:14:59,125 --> 00:15:01,667 Andy and Paul are now meeting with investigators 397 00:15:01,833 --> 00:15:04,208 who have a story of a strange creature 398 00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:07,042 that terrorized Merging Dimensions authors 399 00:15:07,167 --> 00:15:09,667 Linda Bradshaw and Tom Dongo. 400 00:15:10,208 --> 00:15:11,333 All right, gentlemen, be careful. 401 00:15:11,458 --> 00:15:12,625 -Okay. -Little bit 402 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:14,875 -of a rough way down here. -Got it. 403 00:15:15,042 --> 00:15:16,333 PAUL: Linda, obviously, 404 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,583 and Tom Dongo, did a lot of exploring out here. 405 00:15:18,708 --> 00:15:20,000 What have you heard from Tom? 406 00:15:20,083 --> 00:15:21,500 [Jeremiah] In this subject matter 407 00:15:21,583 --> 00:15:23,833 of this type of research, Tom is at the top, 408 00:15:23,958 --> 00:15:25,208 and Linda the same. 409 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:27,083 So, they dedicated their free time 410 00:15:27,208 --> 00:15:29,500 in exploring the property when a lot of incredible 411 00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:30,958 and extraordinary things happened. 412 00:15:31,042 --> 00:15:33,708 So, Tom and Linda were down here? 413 00:15:33,875 --> 00:15:35,167 [Jeremiah] Yes. 414 00:15:35,333 --> 00:15:37,000 He did write of one experience 415 00:15:37,125 --> 00:15:39,167 where they had come down to this general area, 416 00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:42,417 and they were stopped in their tracks by grunting sounds. 417 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,000 Within a short period of time of hearing these grunting sounds 418 00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:47,667 and listening, they heard a roar which Tom described 419 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:49,208 much as an African lion roar. 420 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:50,958 Something with a much deeper voice 421 00:15:51,042 --> 00:15:52,042 and something more powerful. 422 00:15:52,167 --> 00:15:53,667 In fact, we had an experience 423 00:15:53,792 --> 00:15:55,125 not too long ago ourselves, 424 00:15:55,208 --> 00:15:57,167 and we heard the exact same roar that Tom 425 00:15:57,292 --> 00:15:59,208 had described years prior when he was here with Linda. 426 00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:01,708 ALEXANDRA: We heard it several times, 427 00:16:01,833 --> 00:16:03,333 and it sent a chill down my spine. 428 00:16:03,458 --> 00:16:05,917 We just-- Both of us, couldn't wait to get to the car. 429 00:16:06,042 --> 00:16:09,167 Coming down, just, probably about ten feet, 430 00:16:09,292 --> 00:16:11,583 and something tapped Alexandra on the back of the head. 431 00:16:11,708 --> 00:16:14,167 Wait, I'm sorry, you felt something actually touch you? 432 00:16:14,292 --> 00:16:17,792 Yes. I was last in line, so Jeremiah and our friend 433 00:16:17,875 --> 00:16:21,417 were walking ahead of me, and something tapped me on the head 434 00:16:21,542 --> 00:16:23,542 just like that. It was-- 435 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:25,167 -Twice. -Mm-hmm. Twice. 436 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:26,833 So, it wasn't like you bumped into a branch. 437 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,042 No, I didn't bump into anything. 438 00:16:29,208 --> 00:16:31,208 And I looked behind me and there was nothing there, 439 00:16:31,375 --> 00:16:34,500 so I asked Jeremiah to quickly take a picture with the flash. 440 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:37,250 And sure enough, something did show up. 441 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:39,458 There was an orb next to me. 442 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:42,167 But I can't explain that. 443 00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:44,458 -That's very interesting. -JEREMIAH: So, when Tom 444 00:16:44,583 --> 00:16:46,500 and Linda were referencing the roar, the corral 445 00:16:46,625 --> 00:16:48,583 was one of the places where they would separate some of 446 00:16:48,708 --> 00:16:50,625 the horses if they were injured or if they were pregnant. 447 00:16:50,708 --> 00:16:52,708 And there was an incident with a pregnant mare 448 00:16:52,833 --> 00:16:54,292 that started screaming as well. 449 00:16:54,375 --> 00:16:56,083 And that's right through the trees here. 450 00:16:56,208 --> 00:16:58,250 -Let's go check it out. -Okay, so that's close by. 451 00:16:58,375 --> 00:16:59,917 -Very close by. -All right. 452 00:17:00,042 --> 00:17:01,417 [wind whooshing] 453 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,708 -Look at this. -So this is the corral? 454 00:17:03,833 --> 00:17:05,250 -This is it. -ANDY: Got it. 455 00:17:05,375 --> 00:17:07,042 JEREMIAH: Animals, of course, 456 00:17:07,167 --> 00:17:09,125 are excellent sensory perceptive creatures. 457 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:12,542 They usually know when something abnormal is around before we do. 458 00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:14,208 In this particular case, 459 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,375 when they could hear this horse screaming... 460 00:17:17,458 --> 00:17:18,958 she was so frightened that her eyes seemed 461 00:17:19,083 --> 00:17:21,333 to be bugging out of her head and she was kicking 462 00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:24,083 with her hind legs at the enclosure. 463 00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:27,167 PAUL: Wow. Okay. So, how do you make sense of that? 464 00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:29,000 Something was frightening the horses, 465 00:17:29,083 --> 00:17:31,042 and they were hearing this on a regular basis. 466 00:17:31,167 --> 00:17:33,375 When we talk about a credibility scale 467 00:17:33,542 --> 00:17:36,125 in the intelligence world, we talk about two things. 468 00:17:36,208 --> 00:17:37,792 We talk about the credibility of the source, 469 00:17:37,875 --> 00:17:40,167 but we also talk about the credibility of the information. 470 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:42,333 Jeremiah and Alexandra, 471 00:17:42,458 --> 00:17:44,375 you see really solid eye contact, 472 00:17:44,542 --> 00:17:47,125 you see a level of confidence as they explained 473 00:17:47,208 --> 00:17:49,333 their own experiences here on Bradshaw Ranch. 474 00:17:49,458 --> 00:17:51,667 But credible anecdotal information 475 00:17:51,792 --> 00:17:53,375 is only part of the equation. 476 00:17:53,542 --> 00:17:55,500 We have to take from that anecdotal input 477 00:17:55,583 --> 00:17:57,833 something that we can apply science to 478 00:17:57,958 --> 00:17:59,500 so we can pull real facts from it. 479 00:17:59,667 --> 00:18:01,708 I think that's why we have our boots on the ground. 480 00:18:01,875 --> 00:18:03,458 Try to see it firsthand. 481 00:18:07,542 --> 00:18:09,542 NARRATOR: At Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, Arizona, 482 00:18:09,708 --> 00:18:12,125 investigators, Paul Beban and Andy Bustamante 483 00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:14,333 have heard stories of high strangeness 484 00:18:14,458 --> 00:18:15,833 occurring by the horse corral. 485 00:18:15,958 --> 00:18:17,500 Something was frightening the horses 486 00:18:17,583 --> 00:18:19,000 on a regular basis, 487 00:18:19,125 --> 00:18:20,833 and she was kicking with her hind legs 488 00:18:20,917 --> 00:18:22,542 at the enclosure, screaming. 489 00:18:22,667 --> 00:18:24,208 NARRATOR: So they've called in Skinwalker Ranch 490 00:18:24,333 --> 00:18:26,417 expert Guy Blocker to conduct 491 00:18:26,542 --> 00:18:29,750 a thermal temperature test for signs of an anomaly. 492 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,750 ♪♪ 493 00:18:35,292 --> 00:18:37,000 ANDY: Guy, I really appreciate you comin' out 494 00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:39,000 on a cold night to be part of this. 495 00:18:39,083 --> 00:18:41,000 PAUL: Now, and you had an extraordinary 496 00:18:41,167 --> 00:18:43,083 -experience at Skinwalker-- -Yes, I did. 497 00:18:43,208 --> 00:18:44,542 Out at the old homestead. 498 00:18:44,667 --> 00:18:46,167 Yeah, that was really interesting. 499 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:48,083 Okay, guys, I have all the cameras on record, 500 00:18:48,208 --> 00:18:49,500 so we're recording right now. 501 00:18:49,625 --> 00:18:51,333 GUY: In my experience with thermal, 502 00:18:51,417 --> 00:18:53,250 I normally experience temperature changes 503 00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:55,000 where if there's a physical entity 504 00:18:55,083 --> 00:18:57,000 steps in, temperatures go up. 505 00:18:57,083 --> 00:18:58,542 I was expecting a decrease, 506 00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:00,833 and instead we saw an 11 degree increase. 507 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,792 TRAVIS: Look at the screen. 508 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:06,042 TRAVIS: Just seconds after the recording began to play, 509 00:19:06,167 --> 00:19:08,000 there was an obvious rise in temperature 510 00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:10,250 being shown across the thermal camera feed. 511 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,000 Just like a switch got flipped. 512 00:19:12,125 --> 00:19:14,292 So, to make this the most viable, 513 00:19:14,417 --> 00:19:16,500 scientifically relevant experiment we can, 514 00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:18,833 we want to follow the same sequence of events. 515 00:19:18,917 --> 00:19:20,167 What's our trigger? 516 00:19:20,292 --> 00:19:22,375 We've got a 1.6 gigahertz frequency 517 00:19:22,542 --> 00:19:24,958 that we're gonna play here, and that's similar to something 518 00:19:25,042 --> 00:19:26,792 they detected there at Skinwalker. 519 00:19:26,917 --> 00:19:28,333 Right. 520 00:19:28,458 --> 00:19:30,375 NARRATOR: Since the Skinwalker experiment 521 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,292 played an audio signal to stimulate a rise in temperature, 522 00:19:33,375 --> 00:19:35,542 the team plans to play back the audio 523 00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:39,667 of the 1.6 gigahertz signal recorded at Skinwalker Ranch. 524 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:43,625 This 1.6 gigahertz frequency repeatedly shows up 525 00:19:43,708 --> 00:19:46,750 at Skinwalker, accompanied by high strangeness. 526 00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:49,958 If any temperature fluctuations happen near the corral, 527 00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:53,542 they'll be pinpointed by Guy Blocker's thermal cameras. 528 00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:57,625 These fluctuations could be further evidence of an anomaly. 529 00:19:57,708 --> 00:19:59,333 My thought is we aim that crosshair 530 00:19:59,417 --> 00:20:00,625 in the center of the corral. 531 00:20:00,708 --> 00:20:02,333 PAUL: That's a good place to start, right? 532 00:20:02,417 --> 00:20:04,083 We also have your traditional 533 00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:06,958 analog-style thermometers hangin' up on the fence. 534 00:20:07,042 --> 00:20:08,500 This is giving us multiple data points. 535 00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:09,917 I think we're ready for our trigger. 536 00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:11,708 -Yeah. -Let's give it a try. 537 00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:15,625 GUY: As you can see, right now we're at 28.2. 538 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:18,083 -ANDY: Our high is 38.6. -GUY: High is 38, 539 00:20:18,208 --> 00:20:19,833 and that's the tree line behind the corral. 540 00:20:19,917 --> 00:20:22,833 -Perfect. Start the audio? -I'm ready when you are, man. 541 00:20:29,458 --> 00:20:31,708 [audio hissing & crackling] 542 00:20:34,583 --> 00:20:36,125 All right, there's our signal. 543 00:20:36,250 --> 00:20:38,583 [hissing and crackling continue] 544 00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:51,333 Everything looks like it's holding steady here. 545 00:20:55,708 --> 00:20:58,750 [hissing intermittent mixed in with beeps] 546 00:20:58,875 --> 00:21:01,625 [sounds stop] 547 00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:06,750 [hissing and clicking restarts] 548 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,542 The noise is just not what it was. 549 00:21:12,667 --> 00:21:14,833 GUY: It's weird. It goes in and out. 550 00:21:14,917 --> 00:21:18,250 PAUL: It's so much quieter than it was when we first played it. 551 00:21:19,458 --> 00:21:21,333 I don't know why it's so low. 552 00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:23,958 -ANDY: The volume. -No, it's ma-- 553 00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:25,458 I mean, maximum volume. 554 00:21:27,250 --> 00:21:29,333 [eerie music] 555 00:21:29,417 --> 00:21:31,375 [audio hissing & clicking] 556 00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:33,833 All right, I think all we can get now 557 00:21:33,958 --> 00:21:35,167 is a few seconds of your time. 558 00:21:35,292 --> 00:21:37,083 -GUY: Right. -[audio intensifying] 559 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,833 ANDY: Paul, it's shifting on us. 560 00:21:38,958 --> 00:21:40,458 PAUL: Yeah. 561 00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:42,167 -[audio fizzing] -PAUL, ANDY: What was that? 562 00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:43,792 GUY: The temperature went up. 563 00:21:43,875 --> 00:21:46,000 -[audio fizzing] -GUY: It just did it again. 564 00:21:46,125 --> 00:21:47,292 PAUL: That's really weird. 565 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:49,542 ANDY: 39.8, 32. 566 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,750 [tense music] 567 00:21:55,125 --> 00:21:56,750 We're comin' up on 40 over here. 568 00:21:56,875 --> 00:22:00,458 GUY: Yep. Every time the audio comes back on, it does it. 569 00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,042 It's happened faster, but it's not unlike 570 00:22:03,167 --> 00:22:05,167 what happened at Homestead where we had that increase. 571 00:22:05,292 --> 00:22:07,000 That was a drastic change. 572 00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:08,500 ANDY: That was weird. 573 00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:11,833 Watching the temperature increase five degrees 574 00:22:11,917 --> 00:22:15,083 while nothing else has changed except for the playing 575 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:17,500 of a 1.6 gigahertz communication signal, 576 00:22:17,583 --> 00:22:19,833 seeing the environment react to that 577 00:22:19,917 --> 00:22:22,208 is just something that leaves you speechless. 578 00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,333 I mean, wouldn't you expect to see just 579 00:22:24,417 --> 00:22:25,750 a steadily dropping temperature? 580 00:22:25,875 --> 00:22:28,333 Yes, I would, because as, you know, as-- 581 00:22:28,417 --> 00:22:30,708 as the night goes on, we're losing more and more heat. 582 00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:33,083 Because we have a clear sky, so there's nothing holding it in. 583 00:22:33,208 --> 00:22:34,500 Clear sky and it's quite still. 584 00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:36,250 I mean, there might be elevated breeze, 585 00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:37,625 but there's not much movement down here. 586 00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:39,375 GUY: This is not unlike what happened 587 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,375 at Homestead where we had an 11-degree increase 588 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:43,417 in the space of, like, a couple of minutes. 589 00:22:43,542 --> 00:22:45,792 Whereas with this, it went up about five degrees 590 00:22:45,917 --> 00:22:48,250 and then it's slowly coming back down. 591 00:22:48,375 --> 00:22:50,583 We're hundreds of miles from Skinwalker Ranch, 592 00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:52,417 replicating as closely as we can 593 00:22:52,542 --> 00:22:56,417 the same experiments, and seeing similar results. 594 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,667 You can't ignore it. Something happened here. 595 00:22:58,792 --> 00:23:01,375 Why would this audio trigger that spike? 596 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,083 I don't think this was gonna happen 597 00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:04,875 if we did it in-- in our backyard. 598 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,208 If it did, I'd move. 599 00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:08,125 [laughing] Yeah. Exactly. 600 00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:11,417 Guy, we've seen this now in Skinwalker Ranch with you, 601 00:23:11,542 --> 00:23:13,458 we've seen this now in Bradshaw Ranch. 602 00:23:13,583 --> 00:23:16,125 Is this kind of activity something you see regularly? 603 00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:17,750 No, it's only when I hang out with you guys 604 00:23:17,875 --> 00:23:19,375 that this kind of thing happens to me. 605 00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:21,042 -[laughing] -I'm bringin' you along 606 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:22,542 more often, my man. 607 00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:23,958 No, seriously though, thank you, Guy. 608 00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:25,250 We got somethin' here 609 00:23:25,375 --> 00:23:26,792 -to push further. -GUY: Yeah. I-- 610 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:28,583 I think it requires further investigation. 611 00:23:34,375 --> 00:23:35,708 PAUL: I don't know about you, Andy, 612 00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:37,625 but I feel like we're off to a great start. 613 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,375 We've gotten some really interesting results 614 00:23:39,542 --> 00:23:41,417 really right off the bat. 615 00:23:41,542 --> 00:23:43,500 Every time we've broken out a new set of instruments, 616 00:23:43,625 --> 00:23:45,500 we've gotten something surprising. 617 00:23:45,625 --> 00:23:47,667 Yeah, you see it radiating into the sky? 618 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:49,500 PAUL: Starting with the radiological. 619 00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:52,500 Why is there organic radiation in the sky? 620 00:23:52,625 --> 00:23:54,125 What is that that we're lookin' at? 621 00:23:54,208 --> 00:23:55,500 I don't know. 622 00:23:55,583 --> 00:23:57,208 PAUL: What we saw with Casey, 623 00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:58,792 I was not expecting anything like that. 624 00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:01,250 Casey wasn't expecting anything like that. 625 00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:02,750 And then the thermal test that we ran. 626 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,292 That's five degrees of change with nothing 627 00:24:05,375 --> 00:24:07,542 to trigger it except for a sound. 628 00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:09,833 PAUL: Something brought that temperature up. 629 00:24:09,917 --> 00:24:11,542 -[audio fizzing] -ANDY: What was that? 630 00:24:11,667 --> 00:24:13,292 GUY: The temperature went up. 631 00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,292 -[audio fizzing] -GUY: It just did it again. 632 00:24:15,375 --> 00:24:17,167 -It just did it. -ANDY: That's really weird. 633 00:24:17,292 --> 00:24:18,792 We've been able to replicate some 634 00:24:18,875 --> 00:24:20,542 of the same outcomes that they had at Skinwalker, 635 00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,000 which is what we came here to do. 636 00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:24,542 Was to repeat, test, replicate and measure. 637 00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:28,000 I think one of the next things to do is to try to bring in 638 00:24:28,125 --> 00:24:31,542 some of the laser testing that they've done at Skinwalker. 639 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,167 NARRATOR: On Skinwalker Ranch, 640 00:24:34,292 --> 00:24:35,750 the team from Nu-Salt Laser 641 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:37,667 has conducted several experiments 642 00:24:37,792 --> 00:24:39,583 to try to stimulate anomalies... 643 00:24:39,708 --> 00:24:41,625 TRAVIS: Holy cow. Look at that. 644 00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:44,333 NARRATOR: ...which resulted in a correlating U.A.P. sighting 645 00:24:44,458 --> 00:24:45,625 in 2021. 646 00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:46,833 -You see this? -Yeah. 647 00:24:46,917 --> 00:24:48,500 TRAVIS: What the crap is that? 648 00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:49,958 BRANDON: Unbelievable. 649 00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:51,667 NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul want to see 650 00:24:51,792 --> 00:24:54,375 what effect that same technology will have 651 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,167 at Bradshaw Ranch. 652 00:24:56,292 --> 00:25:01,292 As far as a starting point, where Bob Bradshaw saw a U.F.O., 653 00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,833 you know, slide down that hillside. 654 00:25:02,958 --> 00:25:07,542 We saw this spaceship traveling fast 655 00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:10,042 down that hillside and right into the ranch. 656 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:12,458 ANDY: I agree. I think that's a perfect place to start. 657 00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:13,833 It's centrally located. 658 00:25:13,958 --> 00:25:15,958 We've had some great data, but there's still 659 00:25:16,083 --> 00:25:18,083 a lot of questions out there that we need to answer. 660 00:25:18,208 --> 00:25:20,167 Yeah, we've got some answers, there are a lot more questions, 661 00:25:20,292 --> 00:25:22,042 -we've got more work to do. -ANDY: Absolutely. 662 00:25:22,167 --> 00:25:24,333 PAUL: We're gonna fire up the laser and see what happens. 663 00:25:24,417 --> 00:25:25,875 ANDY: I agree, let's do that. 664 00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:30,250 ♪♪ 665 00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:34,417 NARRATOR: With their next plan of attack focused 666 00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:36,375 on the ridge where Bob Bradshaw had 667 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,333 his infamous U.F.O. sighting, 668 00:25:38,458 --> 00:25:40,208 along with John and Mason Bradshaw, 669 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:43,000 Andy and Paul have called in Skinwalker Ranch 670 00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:46,042 laser experts, Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton, 671 00:25:46,167 --> 00:25:48,167 to help with their next experiment. 672 00:25:48,292 --> 00:25:49,833 That looks like a good spot. 673 00:25:49,958 --> 00:25:51,917 PAUL: Guys, thank you so much for comin' out. 674 00:25:52,042 --> 00:25:54,667 So, these guys at Skinwalker have shot lasers, 675 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:56,250 -what, at the ridge? -Yup. 676 00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:57,708 Up into the sky? 677 00:25:57,833 --> 00:25:59,583 What have you got for us? What did you bring? 678 00:25:59,708 --> 00:26:01,833 We want to run a lot of the same kind of tests, 679 00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:04,000 and more, like you've been doin' at Skinwalker. 680 00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,417 TIM: So we brought with us two laser light show projectors, 681 00:26:07,542 --> 00:26:09,583 and we're gonna do a raster scan. 682 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:11,500 So, it's really just gonna illuminate 683 00:26:11,583 --> 00:26:13,833 this whole area with laser. 684 00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:16,042 NARRATOR: In this experiment, the laser will scan 685 00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:18,833 the ridge from side to side and top to bottom. 686 00:26:18,958 --> 00:26:21,667 By adding light energy to the environment, 687 00:26:21,792 --> 00:26:23,917 the hope is to stimulate an anomaly, 688 00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:27,333 or the beams could detect a U.A.P. 689 00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,458 by bending or disappearing 690 00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:31,833 while refracting off the unknown object. 691 00:26:31,917 --> 00:26:34,167 So, we not only have this sighting 692 00:26:34,292 --> 00:26:35,458 that happened in this area, 693 00:26:35,542 --> 00:26:36,917 but we've also had some strange 694 00:26:37,042 --> 00:26:38,708 thermal readings in that direction. 695 00:26:38,833 --> 00:26:41,083 We've had some radiation anomalies that have happened 696 00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:42,833 over the ranch house in this direction. 697 00:26:42,958 --> 00:26:45,833 This location gives us a really central spot 698 00:26:45,958 --> 00:26:47,583 to set up the laser arrays here 699 00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:49,125 and shine them in that direction. 700 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,333 I think it's time to poke the hornet's nest. 701 00:26:51,417 --> 00:26:52,833 See what we find. 702 00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:56,208 NARRATOR: In addition to the laser technology, 703 00:26:56,333 --> 00:26:57,917 Andy and Paul are also deploying 704 00:26:58,042 --> 00:27:01,208 multiple scientific tools to monitor the area. 705 00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,417 So, we've got kind of a cool treat for you guys. 706 00:27:03,542 --> 00:27:05,167 -PAUL: Yeah. -This is a new piece 707 00:27:05,292 --> 00:27:07,000 of equipment called a UFODAP. 708 00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:08,708 It's essentially a piece of equipment 709 00:27:08,833 --> 00:27:10,708 that puts nonstop eyes on the sky. 710 00:27:10,833 --> 00:27:13,542 Actively monitoring from two different base stations, 711 00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:15,833 it's able to search what the air traffic is, 712 00:27:15,958 --> 00:27:18,042 so that once it zones in on a target, 713 00:27:18,167 --> 00:27:19,917 it'll track that target through the sky. 714 00:27:20,042 --> 00:27:22,000 PAUL: These are basically robot cameras. 715 00:27:22,083 --> 00:27:24,042 If they see anything that isn't a bird or a plane, 716 00:27:24,208 --> 00:27:25,833 they're gonna lock on it, and then we can 717 00:27:25,958 --> 00:27:27,625 analyze all that data afterward. 718 00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:29,667 Really looking forward to seeing how all this works. 719 00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:31,208 -[chuckling] -So I'm gonna move this one 720 00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:32,833 a little farther over into this clearing. 721 00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,750 It's actually got a good shot of the hill 722 00:27:34,875 --> 00:27:37,000 -and the sky behind us. -TIM: Great. And this guy 723 00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:39,000 is gonna head over here closest to the laser show. 724 00:27:39,083 --> 00:27:41,083 -PAUL: Perfect. -JEREMY: Kinda want these 725 00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:43,583 to sit on top of each other, but maybe a little bit higher. 726 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:44,667 -Try that. -FLIR should be up 727 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,125 on a monitor now, Andy. 728 00:27:46,208 --> 00:27:47,708 -You got it, Paul. -PAUL: Excellent. 729 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,417 ANDY: Both UFODAPS are scanning. 730 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:51,167 So, what we have first are the UFODAP. 731 00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:53,333 We codenamed them Hunter and Tracker. 732 00:27:53,458 --> 00:27:56,542 So here, Hunter's on the bottom, cued into his piece of sky. 733 00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:58,167 Tracker is over here, 734 00:27:58,250 --> 00:28:00,500 and they're actively monitoring right now. 735 00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:02,875 Here we have the FLIR thermal camera. 736 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 It's actively monitoring this ridgeline 737 00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:07,917 and the area from the ground up to the sky. 738 00:28:08,042 --> 00:28:10,500 And then lastly, we have active tracking 739 00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:12,208 of our radio signals in the area. 740 00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:15,625 So, we'll be actively monitoring the entire radio spectrum 741 00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:17,375 while we're going through the experimentation today. 742 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,042 I think we have all of the hardware and software set up. 743 00:28:20,208 --> 00:28:22,375 I think the only thing left is to wait for nightfall. 744 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:23,625 PAUL: Exactly. 745 00:28:23,708 --> 00:28:24,667 [pulsing and buzzing sounds] 746 00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:31,833 ANDY: We've got everything set up. 747 00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:33,458 I'm ready to go. You guys ready to go? 748 00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:35,125 -PAUL: Let's get to it. -TIM: Absolutely. 749 00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:36,583 NARRATOR: Andy and Paul 750 00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:39,000 have brought in Skinwalker Ranch laser experts 751 00:28:39,083 --> 00:28:42,667 Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton to try to stimulate an anomaly 752 00:28:42,792 --> 00:28:46,000 at the ridge where Bob Bradshaw spotted a U.F.O. 753 00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:48,458 They've also set up their own tech 754 00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:50,000 to help them monitor the area 755 00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:52,167 during the laser light experiment. 756 00:28:52,292 --> 00:28:54,875 I'm gonna arm the UFODAPs so they start scanning the sky. 757 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,583 After that, we want you to make sure 758 00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:58,333 that we hit the FLIR, and once we have 759 00:28:58,458 --> 00:29:00,875 all three devices rolling, we turn it over to you guys. 760 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,417 -Okay. -ANDY: Ready to rock? 761 00:29:02,542 --> 00:29:03,500 -All right. -Yes. 762 00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:05,708 We're live on Hunter. 763 00:29:05,833 --> 00:29:07,375 [whirring and beeping] 764 00:29:07,542 --> 00:29:09,708 We're live on Tracker. 765 00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:11,417 Both UFODAPs are scanning. 766 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:16,667 Temp steady so far. Our high is 36.8, low 22.4. 767 00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:18,792 -Lasers ready. -ANDY: Let's do it. 768 00:29:18,875 --> 00:29:20,458 All right, everybody, here we go. 769 00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:24,708 Three, two, one, hit it. 770 00:29:27,208 --> 00:29:29,000 -PAUL: Nice. -ANDY: Look at that. 771 00:29:30,208 --> 00:29:32,167 Remember, we've gotten reports not just in the sky, 772 00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:33,833 -but also in the woods. -PAUL: Yup. 773 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,542 ANDY: In the wash. 774 00:29:35,667 --> 00:29:37,833 We've got to keep our eyes all around. 775 00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:39,708 PAUL: As we're carrying out this experiment, 776 00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:41,875 we're trying to paint this hillside with energy, 777 00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:44,667 trying to recreate or trigger something 778 00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:47,000 along the lines of what Bob Bradshaw saw. 779 00:29:47,125 --> 00:29:48,958 PAUL: What is the range of that? 780 00:29:49,083 --> 00:29:52,667 These lasers are good for about a mile to two miles. 781 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,500 It all depends on the atmosphere. 782 00:29:54,583 --> 00:29:55,958 We don't really have any clouds, 783 00:29:56,042 --> 00:29:58,000 so it's gonna continue into space. 784 00:29:58,083 --> 00:30:00,292 Paul, I'm gonna start scanning some of these frequencies. 785 00:30:01,083 --> 00:30:03,208 We're expecting to see some U.H.F. traffic, 786 00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:05,292 but anything that's anomalous, this will pick up 787 00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,792 and we'll be able to hone in and listen to the signal. 788 00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:09,917 -Got it. -[lasers humming] 789 00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:13,875 ANDY: So, this is the kind of spike that we're looking for. 790 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,667 That's interesting. That shows it's an active transmission. 791 00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:18,250 -See how tall it is? -PAUL: Yeah. 792 00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:19,833 ANDY: So, I'm gonna see if we can 793 00:30:19,917 --> 00:30:21,542 identify the right bandwidth 794 00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,292 to actually listen in to the signal. 795 00:30:23,375 --> 00:30:24,833 So, you're saying that's a local transmission 796 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,458 of some kind that we're picking up? 797 00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:27,917 ANDY: Correct. 798 00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:30,208 [beeping and crackling] 799 00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,667 ANDY: Let me hear it. Ah? Come on. 800 00:30:32,792 --> 00:30:34,458 [choppy radio noises] 801 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,417 Come on. 802 00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:39,792 I'm gonna take this one hertz at a time. 803 00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:42,375 We're zooming in on the signal. 804 00:30:42,542 --> 00:30:44,042 [radio hissing] 805 00:30:47,042 --> 00:30:50,583 There she is. At 1.6 gigahertz. 806 00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:53,292 PAUL: 1.6 is what they see at Skinwalker. 807 00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:55,083 Correct. We're not sending anything. 808 00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:57,708 ANDY: No, we are not transmitting that. 809 00:30:57,875 --> 00:30:59,542 We are picking up the signal. 810 00:30:59,708 --> 00:31:01,625 [beeping and crackling] 811 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,250 -You see that? -It just did it again. 812 00:31:03,375 --> 00:31:05,083 ANDY: Like a pulse. There it is again! 813 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:07,042 -PAUL: Oh, yeah. -Right there. 814 00:31:07,167 --> 00:31:08,750 Whoa, that's the biggest one we've seen so far. 815 00:31:08,875 --> 00:31:11,042 ANDY: The fact that we're seeing this transmission 816 00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:13,458 when we were not seeing this transmission earlier 817 00:31:13,542 --> 00:31:15,167 is significant. 818 00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:18,250 This mysterious 1.6 gigahertz signal 819 00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:20,917 pops up again and again during active experimentations 820 00:31:21,042 --> 00:31:22,458 on Skinwalker Ranch. 821 00:31:22,542 --> 00:31:23,958 ERIK: Hey, hey, hey, it's here. 822 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,167 We've got that 1.6 thing. 823 00:31:26,292 --> 00:31:28,083 We're clearly getting' a signal. 824 00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,417 Now, what's interesting is a signal of this strength, 825 00:31:31,542 --> 00:31:32,917 1.6 gigahertz, 826 00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:35,333 is an interstellar communication signal. 827 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:37,875 Anybody on earth who is a professional 828 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,875 treats 1.6 as a privileged frequency 829 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:42,917 that's only used for communication 830 00:31:43,042 --> 00:31:45,083 from earth to space and space to earth. 831 00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:49,167 PAUL: It's coming to us from space. Is that right? 832 00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,792 That's-- that's right. The only thing I can think of. 833 00:31:51,875 --> 00:31:53,250 These are radio frequencies 834 00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:55,667 that are available only to the military to co-opt. 835 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:57,542 So, could it be a satellite? 836 00:31:57,667 --> 00:32:00,083 ANDY: If it was a satellite signal, it would come and go. 837 00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:02,042 It's not energy efficient for a satellite 838 00:32:02,167 --> 00:32:03,500 to constantly transmit. 839 00:32:03,667 --> 00:32:05,000 Instead, they have scheduled times 840 00:32:05,125 --> 00:32:06,750 and scheduled locations where they transmit. 841 00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:08,333 That way, as they go around the earth 842 00:32:08,458 --> 00:32:10,500 they send their signal, receiver picks it up, 843 00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:13,500 and then they can store energy for the next rotation. 844 00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:16,500 I can't help but think that the lasers have had 845 00:32:16,667 --> 00:32:17,792 something to do with this, Paul. 846 00:32:17,917 --> 00:32:19,333 I don't know what else it could be. 847 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:20,625 PAUL: We are pumping 848 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:21,917 all this light energy out 849 00:32:22,042 --> 00:32:24,042 out onto the hillside with our lasers, 850 00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:25,833 and the spectrum analyzer 851 00:32:25,958 --> 00:32:27,833 is picking up all kinds of crazy frequencies. 852 00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:30,042 The same place that Bob Bradshaw saw 853 00:32:30,167 --> 00:32:33,000 that U.F.O. so many years ago. 854 00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:35,208 Something has to be causing all that to happen. 855 00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:38,417 Is it the lasers? It's certainly a possibility. 856 00:32:38,542 --> 00:32:40,833 ANDY: With so many anomalies happening at the same time, 857 00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,333 it's hard to keep up with them all. 858 00:32:42,458 --> 00:32:44,792 I kind of want to just embrace this. 859 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,500 [beeping] 860 00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:48,292 What was that? 861 00:32:49,708 --> 00:32:51,333 [beeping] 862 00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:55,792 -Another one? -Right there. 863 00:32:55,917 --> 00:32:56,833 There it is. Look at that. 864 00:32:56,958 --> 00:32:58,542 Look at that, look at that. 865 00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:00,125 -[beeping] -JOHN: What is that? 866 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,875 ANDY: That's the UFODAP doin' it's job. 867 00:33:02,042 --> 00:33:03,792 That small square, that small red square 868 00:33:03,875 --> 00:33:05,083 is where it's zoomed in. 869 00:33:05,208 --> 00:33:06,875 Aw, it just left-- 870 00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:09,000 Oh, it's-- Check it out. Look over here. 871 00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:11,042 Paul, look at that! It's getting more intense. 872 00:33:11,167 --> 00:33:13,292 Look at how bright it is. What is that thing? 873 00:33:13,375 --> 00:33:15,167 -[beeping] -ANDY: That is zoomed in 874 00:33:15,292 --> 00:33:17,667 on an object in the sky that fits the definitions 875 00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:19,958 -for an anomaly. -[beeping] 876 00:33:20,042 --> 00:33:21,458 PAUL: I'm freakin' out. Look at that thing. 877 00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:23,000 ANDY: And it passed through Hunter 878 00:33:23,125 --> 00:33:24,667 and into Tracker's line of sight, 879 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,333 and it was recorded. 880 00:33:26,458 --> 00:33:28,333 All right, so this is the hit that Hunter picked up. 881 00:33:28,458 --> 00:33:30,667 -Flickers in and out. -ANDY: Oh, look at that. 882 00:33:30,792 --> 00:33:33,167 Whoa, whoa, whoa, can you scroll back and slow that down? 883 00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:35,042 There it is. Look at that shape. What is that? 884 00:33:35,208 --> 00:33:37,000 PAUL: I think it picks it up right about here. 885 00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:38,833 Let's bring up the second camera. 886 00:33:38,917 --> 00:33:41,208 PAUL: Yep, same thing on the other camera. 887 00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:43,667 I mean, the movement is faster than a plane would be, 888 00:33:43,792 --> 00:33:46,917 and those lights are not flickering in the same pattern. 889 00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:49,250 I mean, you were in the Air Force. 890 00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:52,250 You ever seen anything that has this sort of light pattern? 891 00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:54,917 What I know, Paul, is that aircraft 892 00:33:55,042 --> 00:33:57,167 are required to have two colored lights, 893 00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:58,625 a green light and a red light. 894 00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:00,625 If they're landing, they have landing lights, 895 00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:02,000 which are a bright white light. 896 00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:04,625 What we just saw had no colored lights 897 00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:06,958 and it had multiple flickering white lights only. 898 00:34:07,042 --> 00:34:08,833 Like it's tumbling, and those lights 899 00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:11,292 are flickering as it goes around. 900 00:34:11,375 --> 00:34:14,500 When it's frozen there, there are two distinct sources 901 00:34:14,625 --> 00:34:18,583 of light, and then when it flickers, it is very bright. 902 00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:21,000 -Boom. -ANDY: That's almost explosive. 903 00:34:21,083 --> 00:34:22,500 PAUL: It's pulsing. 904 00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:26,958 This is a U.A.P. There's no question about it. 905 00:34:27,667 --> 00:34:32,167 All at the same site where Bob, your dad, 906 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:36,250 reported having an alien spacecraft hover over his head. 907 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,000 PAUL: I have come into this entire experience 908 00:34:39,125 --> 00:34:40,500 with an open mind. 909 00:34:40,667 --> 00:34:42,083 I am a skeptic by nature, 910 00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:43,333 I'm a skeptic by training. 911 00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:45,292 It's part of my profession. 912 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,708 However, when you have an experience like we've had, 913 00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:50,375 you have to step back 914 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,167 and sort of reevaluate all your assumptions. 915 00:34:53,292 --> 00:34:56,125 We could be on to something here that's really extraordinary. 916 00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:59,167 PAUL: I can't wait to show this to Erik and Travis 917 00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:00,417 and see what they make of it. 918 00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:06,500 ANDY: I am absolutely hooked 919 00:35:06,625 --> 00:35:08,000 on this kind of investigation now. 920 00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:10,917 I see why you just can't let it go. 921 00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:12,833 We've got some really interesting stuff 922 00:35:12,958 --> 00:35:14,500 to show you, and we're excited to hear 923 00:35:14,625 --> 00:35:17,208 what you think about what we found. 924 00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,000 So, I think what we're gonna start with here, 925 00:35:19,125 --> 00:35:21,000 what Andy has cued up, is where Bob 926 00:35:21,083 --> 00:35:22,667 experienced the U.F.O. going overhead 927 00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:25,750 of the ridge and then disappearing behind it. 928 00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,375 Because we were in an area of a suspected U.F.O. sighting, 929 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,583 we also deployed our UFODAP for the first time. 930 00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:32,208 -Oh, good. -And here's what they captured 931 00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:34,458 during the same time as our experiment. 932 00:35:34,542 --> 00:35:37,000 So, this is the UFODAP locking into something strange. 933 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,167 You can see the flashing. 934 00:35:39,292 --> 00:35:41,208 Whatever it is, it's movin' fast. 935 00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:42,875 ANDY: Now, what caught us immediately 936 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,708 is that there were plenty of aircraft in the air flying, 937 00:35:45,833 --> 00:35:47,125 but they didn't look like this. 938 00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:48,500 They have a specific pulsating flash, 939 00:35:48,625 --> 00:35:50,833 they have red lights and green lights on them. 940 00:35:50,958 --> 00:35:52,375 Let me show you what an airplane-- 941 00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,292 This is our control video for what it looks like 942 00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:56,292 when the UFODAP captures an airplane. 943 00:35:56,417 --> 00:35:58,042 You can see that steady flashing light. 944 00:35:58,208 --> 00:35:59,750 -ERIK: Sure. -PAUL: Once it passes through, 945 00:35:59,875 --> 00:36:01,958 -it just ignores it. -ANDY: But here, the UFODAP 946 00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:03,417 was catching something that did not look 947 00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:05,000 like your traditional aircraft, 948 00:36:05,083 --> 00:36:06,500 especially here where it zoomed in 949 00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:08,417 and actually identified what looked like 950 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:11,000 two sources of light in a tumbling object. 951 00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:12,708 It's very interesting. 952 00:36:12,833 --> 00:36:14,500 BRANDON: Do you believe that the U.F.O. activity 953 00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:17,000 was triggered by some of your experiments 954 00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:18,667 or your activity in the area? 955 00:36:18,792 --> 00:36:21,000 What we know is that they happened at the same time. 956 00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:22,542 They correlated. We don't know 957 00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:24,208 about the connections between them. 958 00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,125 That's the right word to use. They correlated. 959 00:36:26,208 --> 00:36:27,708 BRANDON: I can't help but to notice 960 00:36:27,833 --> 00:36:30,875 the distinct difference between the conventional aircraft 961 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,500 and the U.F.O. 962 00:36:32,625 --> 00:36:34,292 PAUL: Yeah, it's unmistakable. 963 00:36:34,375 --> 00:36:36,375 ANDY: So, we also identified some strange behavior 964 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,250 at 1.6 gigahertz at the same time 965 00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:40,042 we were running our experiment in the open field. 966 00:36:40,167 --> 00:36:42,292 And what we ended up being able to do was hear 967 00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:44,375 similar transmission to what you recorded here 968 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:46,250 on Skinwalker Ranch on that 1.6 gigahertz. 969 00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,708 PAUL: I think what we want to do is get you that data file. 970 00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:51,167 You guys can run it and compare it to what you're hearing here 971 00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:53,125 and see, is it the same, how it's different. 972 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:55,667 ERIK: I'm really interested in your characterization 973 00:36:55,792 --> 00:36:57,333 of that signal as strange. 974 00:36:57,417 --> 00:37:00,042 We'll take a look and see how strange it is. 975 00:37:00,167 --> 00:37:01,542 I want to add another dimension here. 976 00:37:01,667 --> 00:37:03,208 I was gonna say this-- There's more. 977 00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:04,708 Wait, there's more! 978 00:37:04,833 --> 00:37:06,125 PAUL: There's more. 979 00:37:06,208 --> 00:37:08,208 ANDY: So, what I want to share here-- 980 00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:10,667 So if you recall, we had Casey Smith from Qualtech 981 00:37:10,833 --> 00:37:13,333 come out and assist us with some radiation surveys 982 00:37:13,417 --> 00:37:15,250 and help to keep us all safe. 983 00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:17,333 Now, he also brought out with him a new piece of tech, 984 00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:19,167 something called a gamma cam, that was designed 985 00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:22,250 to track, in real time, radiation levels. 986 00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:24,000 So this is an imaging capability? 987 00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:25,750 -ANDY: Correct. -TRAVIS: Wow, nice. 988 00:37:25,875 --> 00:37:27,917 -We need that at Homestead too. -I want that. 989 00:37:28,042 --> 00:37:30,583 ANDY: Now, here we're actually touring the Old West town. 990 00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,208 At first, we got really excited 991 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,167 about all this elevated radiation energy 992 00:37:34,292 --> 00:37:35,667 that you can see us pointing at. 993 00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:37,500 And the thing was, this happened immediately. 994 00:37:37,625 --> 00:37:39,792 So we thought, "Whoa, we-- we just got here, 995 00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:42,250 "and we're kicking up some kind of effect." 996 00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:43,750 Turns out-- 997 00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:45,333 ANDY: Yeah, what he was identifying 998 00:37:45,458 --> 00:37:46,917 was radon that was being kicked up. 999 00:37:47,042 --> 00:37:49,083 -It makes perfect sense. - As we were walking through-- 1000 00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:50,708 Radon pools and collects in the sand, 1001 00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:52,833 and as you stir it up, then it releases it. 1002 00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:55,750 I'll tell you somethin' it does tell me though: 1003 00:37:55,875 --> 00:37:57,750 when you see radon gas, it suggests 1004 00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:00,042 that there are uranium deposits nearby. 1005 00:38:00,167 --> 00:38:02,042 -Oh, okay. -So, there's likely 1006 00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,750 uranium deposits underneath the area there. 1007 00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:07,167 So, I find it really interesting though. 1008 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:09,083 ANDY: Now, what was interesting to us also, 1009 00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:11,292 Casey spent a good half of a day with us 1010 00:38:11,375 --> 00:38:12,958 recording on the gamma cam. 1011 00:38:13,042 --> 00:38:15,750 Now this is a recording of the same radiation spike 1012 00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:19,500 over the ranch house as the gamma camera's running. 1013 00:38:19,625 --> 00:38:21,167 TRAVIS: Whoa, did you see it jump? 1014 00:38:21,292 --> 00:38:22,625 ERIK: What? 1015 00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:24,000 Hey, stop. Stop it right there. 1016 00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:26,250 -ANDY: Yes, sir. -[sighing] 1017 00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,250 Look at this. 1018 00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:32,000 What does that suggest to you, Travis? 1019 00:38:32,083 --> 00:38:33,542 That there was interference. 1020 00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:36,458 This is-- this is an interference pattern, right? 1021 00:38:36,542 --> 00:38:39,000 In gamma rays. Play through to where there was a thing here. 1022 00:38:39,125 --> 00:38:40,708 -You got it. -A minute ago, right? 1023 00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:42,542 -Yeah. -Okay. 1024 00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:45,625 That is-- It's, like, perfectly rectangular. 1025 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:48,958 There's somethin' out here that's a hole. 1026 00:38:49,792 --> 00:38:51,458 -A hole in what? -I don't know. 1027 00:38:51,542 --> 00:38:55,333 A hole, an aperture of-- A screen, a block of metal 1028 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,292 with a-- with a square hole in it. 1029 00:38:57,375 --> 00:38:58,667 Could it be a solid object? 1030 00:38:58,792 --> 00:39:00,542 TRAVIS: It could be a solid object, yes. 1031 00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:04,833 And then, go forward to the next thing. 1032 00:39:05,958 --> 00:39:07,167 TRAVIS: Keep goin'. 1033 00:39:07,292 --> 00:39:08,833 Whoa, whoa, right there. 1034 00:39:10,417 --> 00:39:12,000 So, this looks like there's somethin' that-- 1035 00:39:12,125 --> 00:39:14,083 that the gamma rays are coming through a hole, 1036 00:39:14,208 --> 00:39:15,542 hitting the ground. 1037 00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:17,458 So, if you take a laser, and you get 1038 00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:19,542 a little card and cut a square hole in it 1039 00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:22,500 and you shine the laser through the holes 1040 00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:26,625 and you look across the room, you'll see a pattern like that. 1041 00:39:26,708 --> 00:39:28,708 -A diffraction pattern. -A diffraction pattern. 1042 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,125 This suggests perhaps these gamma rays 1043 00:39:31,208 --> 00:39:34,333 are coming through a hole somewhere out here in the sky 1044 00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:37,708 and-- and then this is the diffraction pattern 1045 00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:41,333 of them passing around whatever this is out there. 1046 00:39:41,458 --> 00:39:42,750 -Wow. -But-- but why? 1047 00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:44,167 TRAVIS: But why? I have no idea. 1048 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:45,458 [laughing] 1049 00:39:45,542 --> 00:39:46,542 And the-- and the location. 1050 00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:48,042 This overhead anomaly 1051 00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:49,500 is right above the ranch house. 1052 00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:51,958 BRANDON: Well, is this a point of entry 1053 00:39:52,042 --> 00:39:53,333 or activity? 1054 00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:55,042 PAUL: These are all valid questions. 1055 00:39:55,167 --> 00:39:57,917 The fact that you described it as something almost rectangular, 1056 00:39:58,042 --> 00:40:00,625 I mean, that matches up exactly with the photograph 1057 00:40:00,708 --> 00:40:02,750 that Linda took and their descriptions 1058 00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:04,500 of what they called something like a portal. 1059 00:40:04,625 --> 00:40:06,292 ERIK: Travis, this has gotta be one 1060 00:40:06,417 --> 00:40:08,500 of the most interesting radiation surveys 1061 00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:10,750 that I have seen in connection with this work. 1062 00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:13,083 Never seen-- Well, this is a new piece of equipment. 1063 00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:14,708 But look-- look at this, Erik. 1064 00:40:14,833 --> 00:40:16,417 Look at the bar that tells you the strength-- 1065 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,208 the strength of the peaks of that 1066 00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:22,500 is in the tens of millisieverts per hour. 1067 00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:25,500 That's dangerous levels. 1068 00:40:25,625 --> 00:40:27,292 That's reminding me of the experience that you had. 1069 00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:28,708 -TRAVIS: Yeah. -PAUL: Whoa, whoa, 1070 00:40:28,833 --> 00:40:31,000 so you're saying this aerial phenomenon, 1071 00:40:31,083 --> 00:40:35,500 this was actually a-- a-- a dangerous burst of radiation? 1072 00:40:35,625 --> 00:40:38,083 I'm thinking if you were standing right there 1073 00:40:38,208 --> 00:40:39,792 where you see those red peaks, 1074 00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:41,667 you could have had problems like I had. 1075 00:40:41,792 --> 00:40:43,333 TRAVIS: What happened at Homestead Two 1076 00:40:43,458 --> 00:40:44,833 really shook me up. 1077 00:40:44,958 --> 00:40:47,625 I noticed weird red marks on my hand and my head. 1078 00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:49,583 They were radiation burns. 1079 00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,250 That could also explain why it didn't hit everybody else. 1080 00:40:52,375 --> 00:40:53,958 -Look how localized it is. -Very localized. 1081 00:40:54,042 --> 00:40:55,833 This is unbelievable how localized that is. 1082 00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:58,667 BRANDON: Well, and hovering, and it's right above 1083 00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:01,667 a main point of interest, the old house. 1084 00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:04,042 This is literally giving me chills, guys. 1085 00:41:04,167 --> 00:41:08,000 It's seeing the very localized gamma ray events 1086 00:41:08,083 --> 00:41:10,208 that you guys captured on this ranch 1087 00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:13,250 that actually kind of helps us understand 1088 00:41:13,375 --> 00:41:15,958 the very localized gamma ray events 1089 00:41:16,042 --> 00:41:18,167 that have happened here on Skinwalker Ranch, 1090 00:41:18,292 --> 00:41:20,167 and those were localized gamma ray events 1091 00:41:20,292 --> 00:41:21,542 that we can't explain. 1092 00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,292 Looks like you guys have captured 1093 00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:24,875 that occurring in real time. 1094 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,375 This is what we were able to collect on this trip. 1095 00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:28,625 Our time was limited. 1096 00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:30,375 We went in guns blazing 1097 00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:33,292 as much as we could looking for answers 1098 00:41:33,375 --> 00:41:35,583 related to the strangeness of the ranch. 1099 00:41:35,708 --> 00:41:37,417 Well, you said your time was limited, 1100 00:41:37,542 --> 00:41:39,458 but I'll tell you, it was well spent. 1101 00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:41,167 PAUL: There is still more to that story. 1102 00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:43,958 I mean, we still have further roads to go down. 1103 00:41:44,042 --> 00:41:46,875 It truly does warrant further investigation. 1104 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,500 Guys, this was very well-executed on the parts 1105 00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:51,333 of everyone who participated in this. 1106 00:41:51,458 --> 00:41:52,875 This really sets a high bar 1107 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,667 for everything that's going to follow. 1108 00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:56,667 PAUL: Well, guys, thank you for all your feedback. 1109 00:41:56,792 --> 00:41:58,625 We're excited to hand off some more data to you, 1110 00:41:58,708 --> 00:42:01,333 and we're excited to get to work on our next project. 1111 00:42:01,458 --> 00:42:03,167 Yeah, can't wait to see what you do next. 1112 00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:04,583 -PAUL: All right. -ANDY: Thank you. 1113 00:42:04,708 --> 00:42:06,167 Thank you so much, gentlemen. 1114 00:42:06,292 --> 00:42:07,625 This was an awesome experience. 1115 00:42:07,708 --> 00:42:09,458 - Awesome. - Good luck, gentlemen. 1116 00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:11,625 -Thank you. We'll talk soon. -All right.