NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch...
BRANDON: Talk about a perfect test pad
that seems to be a sister location to Skinwalker Ranch.
What is that that we're lookin' at?
I don't know.
-ANDY: What was that? -The temperature went up.
-GUY: It just did it again. -PAUL: It did it.
PAUL: That's really weird.
-[beeping] -What was that?
-Right there. -ANDY: There it is.
It's getting more intense.
What is that thing?
NARRATOR: For years, scientists have been working
to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
But is it possible that the clues to unlock the mystery
are located beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness?
-Now... -Whoa!
NARRATOR: ...an ex-CIA agent
and a veteran journalist have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
to go on a high-stakes mission across America.
Look at all this activity that's happening.
-WOMAN: That's unbelievable. -MAN: Oh my gosh,
Look at that, look at that, look at that.
NARRATOR: The goal: uncover evidence
that may finally expose the truth.
-What is that thing? -It's getting more intense.
PAUL: You ever see anything like this before?
ANDY: No.
♪
ANDY: This is just the beginning.
TRAVIS: Sound like Brandon's here?
BRANDON: Hey gentlemen,
it's time to launch our new initiative.
I'd like you to meet our two new investigators,
Andy Bustamante and Paul Beban.
-ERIK: Mornin'. -Paul. Hey, how are you?
Nice to meet you. Hey, Paul. Nice to meet you.
These are the new members of our team.
We're anxious to launch efforts
and have a lot to discuss
as we take our investigation beyond Skinwalker Ranch
to some of these other sites of interest.
We appreciate your qualifications.
We have two professionals here
that I think are a true complement to our effort.
Andy is a graduate of the Air Force Academy,
former CIA investigator and retired Air Force.
Paul Beban is an Emmy Award-winning journalist
with ABC and PBS
and brings a level of expertise and depth
to the investigation and documenting,
really, what we will be engaging with
the sites as we proceed forward.
-That is impressive. -PAUL: Well, we're excited
to join the effort and sort of see how
all of our skill sets fit together
and, you know, get started.
Erik and I have been talkin' about this for a long time,
and we've been kind of running this idea by Brandon
that Skinwalker Ranch, while it is a unique place,
it might not be the only place around the globe
that has a very interesting phenomenon to be observed.
But our bandwidth is getting filled
with all of the research and investigation here.
We need a task force, a special ops team,
that can help inform what we're doing here
and maybe what our next experiments will be.
So, your goal is to find the places
that have the weird stories, take scientific measurements,
collect data and even poke the hornet's nest
and see if any hornets fly out.
We've got to see what's goin' on,
and it will help us understand:
is-- is Skinwalker Ranch
isolated, very unique, nothin' else is like it?
Or is it connected to something bigger?
And I think that's what you guys are gonna help us figure out.
We'd like to arm you with many of the third party experts
that have aided the investigation
here at Skinwalker Ranch.
Not only to establish some continuity,
but to provide a level of resource.
Skinwalker Ranch is base camp to deploy assets.
We see you truly as an extension of our investigation.
So, Paul and Andy, as-- as your work follows
the model of what we've established here
at Skinwalker Ranch, I fully expect as you collect your data
and you're led by your data,
your findings will help us
to evolve our process here at the ranch.
Yeah, I mean, Paul and I come in
really comfortable with field work.
We're used to going out there in front,
not really knowing what we're stepping into,
getting shot at, and then coming back
with whatever information and intel we can collect.
Hopefully, we won't get shot at or tear gassed
or any of the things that have happened
uh, in my previous line of work,
but, you know, we're-- we're ready for anything
and we're excited to get out there.
Given what we know,
I think, you know, our first project,
not too far away, but with so many similar characteristics,
is-- is gonna be really interesting for you guys.
-Please, do tell. -Well, you've got my attention.
ANDY: So, we came into a book called Merging Dimensions.
It references a ranch, Bradshaw Ranch.
It's not far from a place called Sedona, Arizona,
which is commonly known, even in tourist circles,
as an area that in and of itself is strange.
Wonderful. I have heard just a little
about both of these locations.
You couldn't have picked a better place to start.
ANDY: So, the ranch itself has actually had reports
of UFO sightings...
orb sightings...
-strange creatures. -PAUL: Yup.
PAUL: The backstory of Bradshaw Ranch is fascinating.
Bob Bradshaw was really an old-school cowboy
who ended up turning this place into a movie set.
Elvis movies were filmed there.
I mean, this place was a bustling scene.
It was a home. It was a working film set.
At the same time, he and his family
were experiencing, you know, all kinds of high strangeness
in a time when it just really wasn't spoken of.
I mean, he had a business to run out there.
We saw this spaceship.
They were traveling fast down that hillside
and right into the ranch.
It was really so-- A spectacular thing to see.
BRANDON: Talk about a perfect test pad
that seems to be a sister location to Skinwalker Ranch.
One thing that Bradshaw Ranch
seems to have in common with Skinwalker Ranch
is the diversity of activity and phenomena.
We're gonna start with the data.
We're gonna run experiments out there,
we're gonna see if we can measure these phenomena,
and we're gonna talk to as many people as we can
and try to get the facts of the backstory.
ANDY: We've been able to establish contact
with the previous owner of the ranch, John Bradshaw.
His son, Mason, is with him as well.
They're the first people we plan on talking to
when we land on the ground.
Well, I'm absolutely
intrigued by this, and I can't wait
to see what you guys find and report back.
Just filled with anticipation. Wishing you the best of luck.
Yeah, yeah. Good luck, gentlemen.
PAUL: All right. So, we're off. We'll let you know what we find.
[eerie music]
PAUL: Man, you could not ask for a more spectacular location
to start our investigation, right?
I mean, look at this place. It's just stunning.
ANDY: Yeah, absolutely.
PAUL: I mean, there's Sedona itself,
and then Bradshaw Ranch.
ANDY: Yes, if you consider Bradshaw Ranch,
you've got multiple types of high strangeness
that already correlate with the high strangeness
that they've recorded in phenomenon at Skinwalker Ranch.
-PAUL: Right. -ANDY: Light orbs,
Skinwalkers themselves and portals.
PAUL: There are a lot of accounts here
-that sound pretty fantastic. -Pretty fantastic.
And pretty far-fetched, right?
So the question is: how much are we going to be willing
to accept, as CIA agents, investigative journalists?
Where are we gonna say, "Okay, this is something here on earth.
"It could be real and true."
The whole point of what we're doin' here
is pin these extraordinary stories,
these anecdotes and experiences, to reality, right?
We're gonna use the scientific method.
We're gonna try to do more interviews.
We're gonna run some experiments.
Are there ways to connect what seems extraordinary
to actual facts on the ground right here in the world
that aren't just, you know, a tall tale?
So, what I've experienced in the field,
and I'm sure you've seen it too, Paul,
is when you talk to an eyewitness...
-Yeah. -...they believe what they saw.
But the real magic happens
when you can create bulletproof evidence
separate from the eyewitness experience itself.
-Something you can measure. -Yeah.
Because that brings a whole new level
of depth and utility to the eyewitness account.
Now, in my time with CIA, I've seen some crazy things.
Things that nobody thought was possible,
and for sure things that nobody believed,
but they still proved to be true in the end.
It's really important when you show up to do an investigation,
you have to be open to all the possibilities.
Because if you rule something out
based on your own personal bias,
you might miss the most important piece.
It gives you a thread to pull
and then you layer that with real scientific research
and you get to see where that data takes you.
Well, now we're gonna put that to the test.
And we have the benefit of the experience
of the team at Skinwalker to bear on this place,
which is really untested.
Yeah, we're visiting other hornets nests.
[laughing] That's right.
We're adding to the list of hornets nests
that we're gonna poke.
♪
-PAUL: Well, here we are -ANDY: Amazing.
-How's it goin'? -ANDY: Hi there.
-John. -Mason.
PAUL: Hey, good to meet you.
Thank you for meeting us.
There's so much mystery here.
Maybe just tell us a little bit about
what's the deal out here.
Well, so it's a lot of legacies and stories
and just things that are out there that people know about.
We're not gonna tell you what to believe,
-but this is what's out there. -PAUL: Sure.
JOHN: It was about 1995, probably.
My step mom, Linda, was living out here with my dad.
They were doin' dishes and watching TV one night,
and all of a sudden, Linda looked out the window
and there was what appeared to be
another time and space
merging our dimension with another dimension,
almost like a projection screen on a theater.
PAUL: So, we're talking about some kind of space-time portal?
JOHN: That's what she thought it was, yeah.
-Okay. -It's actually really close
to where we're standing right now.
ANDY: Great. Well, you lead the way.
JOHN: Let's go.
PAUL: There's a saying
that extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence.
At the same time, when someone tells me straight-faced,
someone credible like the Bradshaws,
that an interdimensional portal opened up,
that's an amazing story.
I want to know more about that, but I also need some facts.
I need some evidence.
So, I'm open to this, but I need more
before I'm willing to say, "You know what? You're right."
ANDY: What I'd like to do is take a few measurements.
PAUL: All right. Well, let's get started. Let's get to work.
ANDY: All right.
NARRATOR: Since radiation has been
a serious safety problem on Skinwalker Ranch...
-TRAVIS: Mine's beepin'. -MAN: Your max is about 120?
-Yes, 120 somethin'. -That's pretty high.
NARRATOR: ...Andy and Paul have brought in radiation expert
and Skinwalker veteran Casey Smith,
to survey the entire property for radioactive levels
and locate any concerning anomalies.
-CASEY: 'Sup, guys? -JOHN: Great to see you.
-Good to see you guys. -What's goin' on?
Just seein' if we get any radiation measurements out here.
PAUL: I was gonna say, what do you got?
I got a new toy this year.
This is a gamma cam,
and we're actually getting visuals of any radiation
that's actually populating around us.
NARRATOR: The gamma camera from H3D
is a high-resolution imaging system
that can record visuals of flowing radiation.
[beeping]
The camera also collects data
of the volume, intensity and composition
of any radioactive material that might be present.
So, Casey, this is gonna paint a different picture
from what you've seen out at Skinwalker, is that right?
CASEY: Yeah, so with the imaging software on here,
it's just nice to be able to actually see,
if there is radiation, where is it actually coming from?
You look at some of the events that happened
up at Skinwalker Ranch, Travis got, you know,
potentially burned with--
On the skin with some radiation burns.
TRAVIS: That could be a tunnel entrance for all we know.
I'd like to know what's in this thing.
Don't lift it up.
Feel like, uh, I've got a little bit
of a headache or somethin' happenin'.
The next day, I noticed weird red marks
on my hand and my head.
♪
They were radiation burns.
You know, we don't know where it came from.
So, if you had somethin' like that, maybe you can see--
"Hey, there's somethin' that came out
"from the sky or the ground or whatever."
But with this, you'll be able to pinpoint it.
CASEY: Yeah.
Can I take this for a test drive?
Absolutely. So, I got a couple
other pieces of equipment over here too.
I'll grab that as well, but let's take this guy off here.
Excellent. Thank you.
-Mason, you wanna come with me? -MASON: Oh, yeah.
I wanna check out some of what we see
around these old remains.
[gamma cam beeping steadily]
So, I'm not seeing anything that looks dangerous.
Organic matter releasing energy is what we would expect to see.
-CASEY: This guy here. -PAUL: What do we got?
This is an identiFINDER.
It's got a sodium iodide crystal in it.
PAUL: Is the idea that you're basically
-just scanning to-- -Yeah, you're just watching
for the dose rates, if anything changes.
[identiFINDER beeping loudly]
CASEY: Let me walk over and check these guys
-and make sure they're goin'. -PAUL: Sure. Sure.
Ideally, for our own personal safety,
we don't want to see anything.
However, if we do see something,
maybe there's some connection
with all the strange things that your family and others
have reported out here over the years.
ANDY: Check this out.
The ranch house is that direction.
-MASON: Yep. -You see that hot spot?
-Yeah. -MASON: There to the left.
ANDY: Yeah, you see it radiating into the sky?
MASON: Mm-hmm.
ANDY: That's a concentrated area and a pinpoint.
CASEY: Well, that's interesting.
ANDY: What is that that we're lookin' at?
[gamma cam beeping intensifying]
-I don't know. -[beeping intensifying]
CASEY: It's like a-- Yeah, we got, like,
a big streak over here, and the streak--
ANDY: It's, like, bridging the bottom of the screen to the top.
CASEY: Yeah. The red spots that we're seeing are high intensity.
Is it dangerous what we're looking at?
Right now, we're pretty low.
I would suspect that we would see some spots
that's gonna be our naturally occurring radiation
that's in the ground, thorium, uranium.
The streaking that's going off up into the sky,
that's strange to me.
To see this patch of organic radiation
in the direction of the ranch house?
It just leaves me baffled.
This is a clear anomaly that's in an area that has
been reported multiple times for high strangeness.
What have you got, man?
ANDY: So check this out.
We've been chasing kind of a pinpoint red dot
-across the field. -Okay.
Which makes it interesting. And then we also see
this strange climbing into the sky.
-Do you see that? -What is that arc?
It seems to be radiating up into the atmosphere.
I don't know what that is.
PAUL: This is happening in real time.
And Casey, who's an expert, is telling us
he's never seen anything like this before.
It feels like we're on to something right off the bat.
Is there a way to sort of hone in on it?
Let me give it to you so you can get a good view.
Yeah. Here. Let me trade you. Okay.
-[beeping intensifying] -ANDY: So that--
This is the source in the ground,
and that's radiation into the sky.
-Do you see it taking off? -Whoa, what happened?
-CASEY: We just lost the image. -ANDY: Is the camera failing?
The source disappeared and then the camera.
PAUL: Well, they're not--
They go in and out.
CASEY: Yeah, it's gone. All of it's gone now.
You can't get the camera back up at all.
The minute I gave this over to Paul
and he talked about homing in
to track this thing down, it failed.
PAUL: That is just so weird.
ANDY: Almost like it doesn't wanna be found.
What I'll do with the data that we've collected,
I need to go pull it into the visualizer software,
take a look at it, look for those peaks
that I saw up at Skinwalker Ranch
and see if they're occurring here.
I also want to kind of keep poking around
and take some more measurements.
ANDY: Terrific.
NARRATOR: With a strange radiation anomaly detected,
but an all-clear from Casey,
Andy and Paul are now meeting with investigators
who have a story of a strange creature
that terrorized Merging Dimensions authors
Linda Bradshaw and Tom Dongo.
All right, gentlemen, be careful.
-Okay. -Little bit
-of a rough way down here. -Got it.
PAUL: Linda, obviously,
and Tom Dongo, did a lot of exploring out here.
What have you heard from Tom?
[Jeremiah] In this subject matter
of this type of research, Tom is at the top,
and Linda the same.
So, they dedicated their free time
in exploring the property when a lot of incredible
and extraordinary things happened.
So, Tom and Linda were down here?
[Jeremiah] Yes.
He did write of one experience
where they had come down to this general area,
and they were stopped in their tracks by grunting sounds.
Within a short period of time of hearing these grunting sounds
and listening, they heard a roar which Tom described
much as an African lion roar.
Something with a much deeper voice
and something more powerful.
In fact, we had an experience
not too long ago ourselves,
and we heard the exact same roar that Tom
had described years prior when he was here with Linda.
ALEXANDRA: We heard it several times,
and it sent a chill down my spine.
We just-- Both of us, couldn't wait to get to the car.
Coming down, just, probably about ten feet,
and something tapped Alexandra on the back of the head.
Wait, I'm sorry, you felt something actually touch you?
Yes. I was last in line, so Jeremiah and our friend
were walking ahead of me, and something tapped me on the head
just like that. It was--
-Twice. -Mm-hmm. Twice.
So, it wasn't like you bumped into a branch.
No, I didn't bump into anything.
And I looked behind me and there was nothing there,
so I asked Jeremiah to quickly take a picture with the flash.
And sure enough, something did show up.
There was an orb next to me.
But I can't explain that.
-That's very interesting. -JEREMIAH: So, when Tom
and Linda were referencing the roar, the corral
was one of the places where they would separate some of
the horses if they were injured or if they were pregnant.
And there was an incident with a pregnant mare
that started screaming as well.
And that's right through the trees here.
-Let's go check it out. -Okay, so that's close by.
-Very close by. -All right.
[wind whooshing]
-Look at this. -So this is the corral?
-This is it. -ANDY: Got it.
JEREMIAH: Animals, of course,
are excellent sensory perceptive creatures.
They usually know when something abnormal is around before we do.
In this particular case,
when they could hear this horse screaming...
she was so frightened that her eyes seemed
to be bugging out of her head and she was kicking
with her hind legs at the enclosure.
PAUL: Wow. Okay. So, how do you make sense of that?
Something was frightening the horses,
and they were hearing this on a regular basis.
When we talk about a credibility scale
in the intelligence world, we talk about two things.
We talk about the credibility of the source,
but we also talk about the credibility of the information.
Jeremiah and Alexandra,
you see really solid eye contact,
you see a level of confidence as they explained
their own experiences here on Bradshaw Ranch.
But credible anecdotal information
is only part of the equation.
We have to take from that anecdotal input
something that we can apply science to
so we can pull real facts from it.
I think that's why we have our boots on the ground.
Try to see it firsthand.
NARRATOR: At Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, Arizona,
investigators, Paul Beban and Andy Bustamante
have heard stories of high strangeness
occurring by the horse corral.
Something was frightening the horses
on a regular basis,
and she was kicking with her hind legs
at the enclosure, screaming.
NARRATOR: So they've called in Skinwalker Ranch
expert Guy Blocker to conduct
a thermal temperature test for signs of an anomaly.
♪♪
ANDY: Guy, I really appreciate you comin' out
on a cold night to be part of this.
PAUL: Now, and you had an extraordinary
-experience at Skinwalker-- -Yes, I did.
Out at the old homestead.
Yeah, that was really interesting.
Okay, guys, I have all the cameras on record,
so we're recording right now.
GUY: In my experience with thermal,
I normally experience temperature changes
where if there's a physical entity
steps in, temperatures go up.
I was expecting a decrease,
and instead we saw an 11 degree increase.
TRAVIS: Look at the screen.
TRAVIS: Just seconds after the recording began to play,
there was an obvious rise in temperature
being shown across the thermal camera feed.
Just like a switch got flipped.
So, to make this the most viable,
scientifically relevant experiment we can,
we want to follow the same sequence of events.
What's our trigger?
We've got a 1.6 gigahertz frequency
that we're gonna play here, and that's similar to something
they detected there at Skinwalker.
Right.
NARRATOR: Since the Skinwalker experiment
played an audio signal to stimulate a rise in temperature,
the team plans to play back the audio
of the 1.6 gigahertz signal recorded at Skinwalker Ranch.
This 1.6 gigahertz frequency repeatedly shows up
at Skinwalker, accompanied by high strangeness.
If any temperature fluctuations happen near the corral,
they'll be pinpointed by Guy Blocker's thermal cameras.
These fluctuations could be further evidence of an anomaly.
My thought is we aim that crosshair
in the center of the corral.
PAUL: That's a good place to start, right?
We also have your traditional
analog-style thermometers hangin' up on the fence.
This is giving us multiple data points.
I think we're ready for our trigger.
-Yeah. -Let's give it a try.
GUY: As you can see, right now we're at 28.2.
-ANDY: Our high is 38.6. -GUY: High is 38,
and that's the tree line behind the corral.
-Perfect. Start the audio? -I'm ready when you are, man.
[audio hissing & crackling]
All right, there's our signal.
[hissing and crackling continue]
Everything looks like it's holding steady here.
[hissing intermittent mixed in with beeps]
[sounds stop]
[hissing and clicking restarts]
The noise is just not what it was.
GUY: It's weird. It goes in and out.
PAUL: It's so much quieter than it was when we first played it.
I don't know why it's so low.
-ANDY: The volume. -No, it's ma--
I mean, maximum volume.
[eerie music]
[audio hissing & clicking]
All right, I think all we can get now
is a few seconds of your time.
-GUY: Right. -[audio intensifying]
ANDY: Paul, it's shifting on us.
PAUL: Yeah.
-[audio fizzing] -PAUL, ANDY: What was that?
GUY: The temperature went up.
-[audio fizzing] -GUY: It just did it again.
PAUL: That's really weird.
ANDY: 39.8, 32.
[tense music]
We're comin' up on 40 over here.
GUY: Yep. Every time the audio comes back on, it does it.
It's happened faster, but it's not unlike
what happened at Homestead where we had that increase.
That was a drastic change.
ANDY: That was weird.
Watching the temperature increase five degrees
while nothing else has changed except for the playing
of a 1.6 gigahertz communication signal,
seeing the environment react to that
is just something that leaves you speechless.
I mean, wouldn't you expect to see just
a steadily dropping temperature?
Yes, I would, because as, you know, as--
as the night goes on, we're losing more and more heat.
Because we have a clear sky, so there's nothing holding it in.
Clear sky and it's quite still.
I mean, there might be elevated breeze,
but there's not much movement down here.
GUY: This is not unlike what happened
at Homestead where we had an 11-degree increase
in the space of, like, a couple of minutes.
Whereas with this, it went up about five degrees
and then it's slowly coming back down.
We're hundreds of miles from Skinwalker Ranch,
replicating as closely as we can
the same experiments, and seeing similar results.
You can't ignore it. Something happened here.
Why would this audio trigger that spike?
I don't think this was gonna happen
if we did it in-- in our backyard.
If it did, I'd move.
[laughing] Yeah. Exactly.
Guy, we've seen this now in Skinwalker Ranch with you,
we've seen this now in Bradshaw Ranch.
Is this kind of activity something you see regularly?
No, it's only when I hang out with you guys
that this kind of thing happens to me.
-[laughing] -I'm bringin' you along
more often, my man.
No, seriously though, thank you, Guy.
We got somethin' here
-to push further. -GUY: Yeah. I--
I think it requires further investigation.
PAUL: I don't know about you, Andy,
but I feel like we're off to a great start.
We've gotten some really interesting results
really right off the bat.
Every time we've broken out a new set of instruments,
we've gotten something surprising.
Yeah, you see it radiating into the sky?
PAUL: Starting with the radiological.
Why is there organic radiation in the sky?
What is that that we're lookin' at?
I don't know.
PAUL: What we saw with Casey,
I was not expecting anything like that.
Casey wasn't expecting anything like that.
And then the thermal test that we ran.
That's five degrees of change with nothing
to trigger it except for a sound.
PAUL: Something brought that temperature up.
-[audio fizzing] -ANDY: What was that?
GUY: The temperature went up.
-[audio fizzing] -GUY: It just did it again.
-It just did it. -ANDY: That's really weird.
We've been able to replicate some
of the same outcomes that they had at Skinwalker,
which is what we came here to do.
Was to repeat, test, replicate and measure.
I think one of the next things to do is to try to bring in
some of the laser testing that they've done at Skinwalker.
NARRATOR: On Skinwalker Ranch,
the team from Nu-Salt Laser
has conducted several experiments
to try to stimulate anomalies...
TRAVIS: Holy cow. Look at that.
NARRATOR: ...which resulted in a correlating U.A.P. sighting
in 2021.
-You see this? -Yeah.
TRAVIS: What the crap is that?
BRANDON: Unbelievable.
NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul want to see
what effect that same technology will have
at Bradshaw Ranch.
As far as a starting point, where Bob Bradshaw saw a U.F.O.,
you know, slide down that hillside.
We saw this spaceship traveling fast
down that hillside and right into the ranch.
ANDY: I agree. I think that's a perfect place to start.
It's centrally located.
We've had some great data, but there's still
a lot of questions out there that we need to answer.
Yeah, we've got some answers, there are a lot more questions,
-we've got more work to do. -ANDY: Absolutely.
PAUL: We're gonna fire up the laser and see what happens.
ANDY: I agree, let's do that.
♪♪
NARRATOR: With their next plan of attack focused
on the ridge where Bob Bradshaw had
his infamous U.F.O. sighting,
along with John and Mason Bradshaw,
Andy and Paul have called in Skinwalker Ranch
laser experts, Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton,
to help with their next experiment.
That looks like a good spot.
PAUL: Guys, thank you so much for comin' out.
So, these guys at Skinwalker have shot lasers,
-what, at the ridge? -Yup.
Up into the sky?
What have you got for us? What did you bring?
We want to run a lot of the same kind of tests,
and more, like you've been doin' at Skinwalker.
TIM: So we brought with us two laser light show projectors,
and we're gonna do a raster scan.
So, it's really just gonna illuminate
this whole area with laser.
NARRATOR: In this experiment, the laser will scan
the ridge from side to side and top to bottom.
By adding light energy to the environment,
the hope is to stimulate an anomaly,
or the beams could detect a U.A.P.
by bending or disappearing
while refracting off the unknown object.
So, we not only have this sighting
that happened in this area,
but we've also had some strange
thermal readings in that direction.
We've had some radiation anomalies that have happened
over the ranch house in this direction.
This location gives us a really central spot
to set up the laser arrays here
and shine them in that direction.
I think it's time to poke the hornet's nest.
See what we find.
NARRATOR: In addition to the laser technology,
Andy and Paul are also deploying
multiple scientific tools to monitor the area.
So, we've got kind of a cool treat for you guys.
-PAUL: Yeah. -This is a new piece
of equipment called a UFODAP.
It's essentially a piece of equipment
that puts nonstop eyes on the sky.
Actively monitoring from two different base stations,
it's able to search what the air traffic is,
so that once it zones in on a target,
it'll track that target through the sky.
PAUL: These are basically robot cameras.
If they see anything that isn't a bird or a plane,
they're gonna lock on it, and then we can
analyze all that data afterward.
Really looking forward to seeing how all this works.
-[chuckling] -So I'm gonna move this one
a little farther over into this clearing.
It's actually got a good shot of the hill
-and the sky behind us. -TIM: Great. And this guy
is gonna head over here closest to the laser show.
-PAUL: Perfect. -JEREMY: Kinda want these
to sit on top of each other, but maybe a little bit higher.
-Try that. -FLIR should be up
on a monitor now, Andy.
-You got it, Paul. -PAUL: Excellent.
ANDY: Both UFODAPS are scanning.
So, what we have first are the UFODAP.
We codenamed them Hunter and Tracker.
So here, Hunter's on the bottom, cued into his piece of sky.
Tracker is over here,
and they're actively monitoring right now.
Here we have the FLIR thermal camera.
It's actively monitoring this ridgeline
and the area from the ground up to the sky.
And then lastly, we have active tracking
of our radio signals in the area.
So, we'll be actively monitoring the entire radio spectrum
while we're going through the experimentation today.
I think we have all of the hardware and software set up.
I think the only thing left is to wait for nightfall.
PAUL: Exactly.
[pulsing and buzzing sounds]
ANDY: We've got everything set up.
I'm ready to go. You guys ready to go?
-PAUL: Let's get to it. -TIM: Absolutely.
NARRATOR: Andy and Paul
have brought in Skinwalker Ranch laser experts
Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton to try to stimulate an anomaly
at the ridge where Bob Bradshaw spotted a U.F.O.
They've also set up their own tech
to help them monitor the area
during the laser light experiment.
I'm gonna arm the UFODAPs so they start scanning the sky.
After that, we want you to make sure
that we hit the FLIR, and once we have
all three devices rolling, we turn it over to you guys.
-Okay. -ANDY: Ready to rock?
-All right. -Yes.
We're live on Hunter.
[whirring and beeping]
We're live on Tracker.
Both UFODAPs are scanning.
Temp steady so far. Our high is 36.8, low 22.4.
-Lasers ready. -ANDY: Let's do it.
All right, everybody, here we go.
Three, two, one, hit it.
-PAUL: Nice. -ANDY: Look at that.
Remember, we've gotten reports not just in the sky,
-but also in the woods. -PAUL: Yup.
ANDY: In the wash.
We've got to keep our eyes all around.
PAUL: As we're carrying out this experiment,
we're trying to paint this hillside with energy,
trying to recreate or trigger something
along the lines of what Bob Bradshaw saw.
PAUL: What is the range of that?
These lasers are good for about a mile to two miles.
It all depends on the atmosphere.
We don't really have any clouds,
so it's gonna continue into space.
Paul, I'm gonna start scanning some of these frequencies.
We're expecting to see some U.H.F. traffic,
but anything that's anomalous, this will pick up
and we'll be able to hone in and listen to the signal.
-Got it. -[lasers humming]
ANDY: So, this is the kind of spike that we're looking for.
That's interesting. That shows it's an active transmission.
-See how tall it is? -PAUL: Yeah.
ANDY: So, I'm gonna see if we can
identify the right bandwidth
to actually listen in to the signal.
So, you're saying that's a local transmission
of some kind that we're picking up?
ANDY: Correct.
[beeping and crackling]
ANDY: Let me hear it. Ah? Come on.
[choppy radio noises]
Come on.
I'm gonna take this one hertz at a time.
We're zooming in on the signal.
[radio hissing]
There she is. At 1.6 gigahertz.
PAUL: 1.6 is what they see at Skinwalker.
Correct. We're not sending anything.
ANDY: No, we are not transmitting that.
We are picking up the signal.
[beeping and crackling]
-You see that? -It just did it again.
ANDY: Like a pulse. There it is again!
-PAUL: Oh, yeah. -Right there.
Whoa, that's the biggest one we've seen so far.
ANDY: The fact that we're seeing this transmission
when we were not seeing this transmission earlier
is significant.
This mysterious 1.6 gigahertz signal
pops up again and again during active experimentations
on Skinwalker Ranch.
ERIK: Hey, hey, hey, it's here.
We've got that 1.6 thing.
We're clearly getting' a signal.
Now, what's interesting is a signal of this strength,
1.6 gigahertz,
is an interstellar communication signal.
Anybody on earth who is a professional
treats 1.6 as a privileged frequency
that's only used for communication
from earth to space and space to earth.
PAUL: It's coming to us from space. Is that right?
That's-- that's right. The only thing I can think of.
These are radio frequencies
that are available only to the military to co-opt.
So, could it be a satellite?
ANDY: If it was a satellite signal, it would come and go.
It's not energy efficient for a satellite
to constantly transmit.
Instead, they have scheduled times
and scheduled locations where they transmit.
That way, as they go around the earth
they send their signal, receiver picks it up,
and then they can store energy for the next rotation.
I can't help but think that the lasers have had
something to do with this, Paul.
I don't know what else it could be.
PAUL: We are pumping
all this light energy out
out onto the hillside with our lasers,
and the spectrum analyzer
is picking up all kinds of crazy frequencies.
The same place that Bob Bradshaw saw
that U.F.O. so many years ago.
Something has to be causing all that to happen.
Is it the lasers? It's certainly a possibility.
ANDY: With so many anomalies happening at the same time,
it's hard to keep up with them all.
I kind of want to just embrace this.
[beeping]
What was that?
[beeping]
-Another one? -Right there.
There it is. Look at that.
Look at that, look at that.
-[beeping] -JOHN: What is that?
ANDY: That's the UFODAP doin' it's job.
That small square, that small red square
is where it's zoomed in.
Aw, it just left--
Oh, it's-- Check it out. Look over here.
Paul, look at that! It's getting more intense.
Look at how bright it is. What is that thing?
-[beeping] -ANDY: That is zoomed in
on an object in the sky that fits the definitions
-for an anomaly. -[beeping]
PAUL: I'm freakin' out. Look at that thing.
ANDY: And it passed through Hunter
and into Tracker's line of sight,
and it was recorded.
All right, so this is the hit that Hunter picked up.
-Flickers in and out. -ANDY: Oh, look at that.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, can you scroll back and slow that down?
There it is. Look at that shape. What is that?
PAUL: I think it picks it up right about here.
Let's bring up the second camera.
PAUL: Yep, same thing on the other camera.
I mean, the movement is faster than a plane would be,
and those lights are not flickering in the same pattern.
I mean, you were in the Air Force.
You ever seen anything that has this sort of light pattern?
What I know, Paul, is that aircraft
are required to have two colored lights,
a green light and a red light.
If they're landing, they have landing lights,
which are a bright white light.
What we just saw had no colored lights
and it had multiple flickering white lights only.
Like it's tumbling, and those lights
are flickering as it goes around.
When it's frozen there, there are two distinct sources
of light, and then when it flickers, it is very bright.
-Boom. -ANDY: That's almost explosive.
PAUL: It's pulsing.
This is a U.A.P. There's no question about it.
All at the same site where Bob, your dad,
reported having an alien spacecraft hover over his head.
PAUL: I have come into this entire experience
with an open mind.
I am a skeptic by nature,
I'm a skeptic by training.
It's part of my profession.
However, when you have an experience like we've had,
you have to step back
and sort of reevaluate all your assumptions.
We could be on to something here that's really extraordinary.
PAUL: I can't wait to show this to Erik and Travis
and see what they make of it.
ANDY: I am absolutely hooked
on this kind of investigation now.
I see why you just can't let it go.
We've got some really interesting stuff
to show you, and we're excited to hear
what you think about what we found.
So, I think what we're gonna start with here,
what Andy has cued up, is where Bob
experienced the U.F.O. going overhead
of the ridge and then disappearing behind it.
Because we were in an area of a suspected U.F.O. sighting,
we also deployed our UFODAP for the first time.
-Oh, good. -And here's what they captured
during the same time as our experiment.
So, this is the UFODAP locking into something strange.
You can see the flashing.
Whatever it is, it's movin' fast.
ANDY: Now, what caught us immediately
is that there were plenty of aircraft in the air flying,
but they didn't look like this.
They have a specific pulsating flash,
they have red lights and green lights on them.
Let me show you what an airplane--
This is our control video for what it looks like
when the UFODAP captures an airplane.
You can see that steady flashing light.
-ERIK: Sure. -PAUL: Once it passes through,
-it just ignores it. -ANDY: But here, the UFODAP
was catching something that did not look
like your traditional aircraft,
especially here where it zoomed in
and actually identified what looked like
two sources of light in a tumbling object.
It's very interesting.
BRANDON: Do you believe that the U.F.O. activity
was triggered by some of your experiments
or your activity in the area?
What we know is that they happened at the same time.
They correlated. We don't know
about the connections between them.
That's the right word to use. They correlated.
BRANDON: I can't help but to notice
the distinct difference between the conventional aircraft
and the U.F.O.
PAUL: Yeah, it's unmistakable.
ANDY: So, we also identified some strange behavior
at 1.6 gigahertz at the same time
we were running our experiment in the open field.
And what we ended up being able to do was hear
similar transmission to what you recorded here
on Skinwalker Ranch on that 1.6 gigahertz.
PAUL: I think what we want to do is get you that data file.
You guys can run it and compare it to what you're hearing here
and see, is it the same, how it's different.
ERIK: I'm really interested in your characterization
of that signal as strange.
We'll take a look and see how strange it is.
I want to add another dimension here.
I was gonna say this-- There's more.
Wait, there's more!
PAUL: There's more.
ANDY: So, what I want to share here--
So if you recall, we had Casey Smith from Qualtech
come out and assist us with some radiation surveys
and help to keep us all safe.
Now, he also brought out with him a new piece of tech,
something called a gamma cam, that was designed
to track, in real time, radiation levels.
So this is an imaging capability?
-ANDY: Correct. -TRAVIS: Wow, nice.
-We need that at Homestead too. -I want that.
ANDY: Now, here we're actually touring the Old West town.
At first, we got really excited
about all this elevated radiation energy
that you can see us pointing at.
And the thing was, this happened immediately.
So we thought, "Whoa, we-- we just got here,
"and we're kicking up some kind of effect."
Turns out--
ANDY: Yeah, what he was identifying
was radon that was being kicked up.
-It makes perfect sense. - As we were walking through--
Radon pools and collects in the sand,
and as you stir it up, then it releases it.
I'll tell you somethin' it does tell me though:
when you see radon gas, it suggests
that there are uranium deposits nearby.
-Oh, okay. -So, there's likely
uranium deposits underneath the area there.
So, I find it really interesting though.
ANDY: Now, what was interesting to us also,
Casey spent a good half of a day with us
recording on the gamma cam.
Now this is a recording of the same radiation spike
over the ranch house as the gamma camera's running.
TRAVIS: Whoa, did you see it jump?
ERIK: What?
Hey, stop. Stop it right there.
-ANDY: Yes, sir. -[sighing]
Look at this.
What does that suggest to you, Travis?
That there was interference.
This is-- this is an interference pattern, right?
In gamma rays. Play through to where there was a thing here.
-You got it. -A minute ago, right?
-Yeah. -Okay.
That is-- It's, like, perfectly rectangular.
There's somethin' out here that's a hole.
-A hole in what? -I don't know.
A hole, an aperture of-- A screen, a block of metal
with a-- with a square hole in it.
Could it be a solid object?
TRAVIS: It could be a solid object, yes.
And then, go forward to the next thing.
TRAVIS: Keep goin'.
Whoa, whoa, right there.
So, this looks like there's somethin' that--
that the gamma rays are coming through a hole,
hitting the ground.
So, if you take a laser, and you get
a little card and cut a square hole in it
and you shine the laser through the holes
and you look across the room, you'll see a pattern like that.
-A diffraction pattern. -A diffraction pattern.
This suggests perhaps these gamma rays
are coming through a hole somewhere out here in the sky
and-- and then this is the diffraction pattern
of them passing around whatever this is out there.
-Wow. -But-- but why?
TRAVIS: But why? I have no idea.
[laughing]
And the-- and the location.
This overhead anomaly
is right above the ranch house.
BRANDON: Well, is this a point of entry
or activity?
PAUL: These are all valid questions.
The fact that you described it as something almost rectangular,
I mean, that matches up exactly with the photograph
that Linda took and their descriptions
of what they called something like a portal.
ERIK: Travis, this has gotta be one
of the most interesting radiation surveys
that I have seen in connection with this work.
Never seen-- Well, this is a new piece of equipment.
But look-- look at this, Erik.
Look at the bar that tells you the strength--
the strength of the peaks of that
is in the tens of millisieverts per hour.
That's dangerous levels.
That's reminding me of the experience that you had.
-TRAVIS: Yeah. -PAUL: Whoa, whoa,
so you're saying this aerial phenomenon,
this was actually a-- a-- a dangerous burst of radiation?
I'm thinking if you were standing right there
where you see those red peaks,
you could have had problems like I had.
TRAVIS: What happened at Homestead Two
really shook me up.
I noticed weird red marks on my hand and my head.
They were radiation burns.
That could also explain why it didn't hit everybody else.
-Look how localized it is. -Very localized.
This is unbelievable how localized that is.
BRANDON: Well, and hovering, and it's right above
a main point of interest, the old house.
This is literally giving me chills, guys.
It's seeing the very localized gamma ray events
that you guys captured on this ranch
that actually kind of helps us understand
the very localized gamma ray events
that have happened here on Skinwalker Ranch,
and those were localized gamma ray events
that we can't explain.
Looks like you guys have captured
that occurring in real time.
This is what we were able to collect on this trip.
Our time was limited.
We went in guns blazing
as much as we could looking for answers
related to the strangeness of the ranch.
Well, you said your time was limited,
but I'll tell you, it was well spent.
PAUL: There is still more to that story.
I mean, we still have further roads to go down.
It truly does warrant further investigation.
Guys, this was very well-executed on the parts
of everyone who participated in this.
This really sets a high bar
for everything that's going to follow.
PAUL: Well, guys, thank you for all your feedback.
We're excited to hand off some more data to you,
and we're excited to get to work on our next project.
Yeah, can't wait to see what you do next.
-PAUL: All right. -ANDY: Thank you.
Thank you so much, gentlemen.
This was an awesome experience.
- Awesome. - Good luck, gentlemen.
-Thank you. We'll talk soon. -All right.