1 00:00:02,167 --> 00:00:04,125 ANNOUNCER: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch... 2 00:00:04,250 --> 00:00:05,958 JACK: According to the weather, 3 00:00:06,042 --> 00:00:07,833 we got maybe two hours before full blizzard, 4 00:00:07,958 --> 00:00:09,667 so we gotta move fast. 5 00:00:10,583 --> 00:00:12,500 It looks like it's trying to fly through a force field. 6 00:00:12,583 --> 00:00:15,042 ROBERT: It's a huge magnetic disturbance. 7 00:00:15,167 --> 00:00:17,833 That's typically gonna be indicative of a void. 8 00:00:17,958 --> 00:00:20,250 There might be a UFO buried 9 00:00:20,375 --> 00:00:22,167 somewhere on the mountain and underground. 10 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:23,917 JACK: There's something under there 11 00:00:24,042 --> 00:00:25,542 and it's trying it's darndest not to be found. 12 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:27,167 Oh, my gosh. 13 00:00:27,292 --> 00:00:29,042 Hopefully, this is enough to breach the tunnel. 14 00:00:29,167 --> 00:00:30,958 ANDY: So we're not just kicking the hornet's nest, 15 00:00:31,042 --> 00:00:32,542 we're just blowing the [bleep] out of it. 16 00:00:32,708 --> 00:00:34,500 Fire in the hole. 17 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:36,083 [explosion blasting] 18 00:00:39,375 --> 00:00:41,333 ANNOUNCER: For years, scientists have been working 19 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:44,083 to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 20 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:49,042 But is it possible that the clues to unlock the mystery 21 00:00:49,167 --> 00:00:51,042 are located beyond the borders 22 00:00:51,167 --> 00:00:53,667 of this hub of high strangeness? 23 00:00:53,792 --> 00:00:55,000 -Now-- -Whoa! 24 00:00:56,542 --> 00:00:58,208 ANNOUNCER: ...an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 25 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:01,125 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 26 00:01:01,208 --> 00:01:03,333 to go on a high stakes mission across America. 27 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:05,708 PAUL: Look at all this activity that's happening. 28 00:01:05,875 --> 00:01:08,042 -That's unbelievable. -ANDY: My gosh. Look at that! 29 00:01:08,208 --> 00:01:10,042 ANNOUNCER: The goal, uncover evidence 30 00:01:10,167 --> 00:01:12,458 that may finally expose the truth. 31 00:01:13,167 --> 00:01:14,958 -What is that thing? -It's getting more intense? 32 00:01:15,083 --> 00:01:16,458 You ever seen anything like this before? 33 00:01:16,583 --> 00:01:17,667 [man] No. 34 00:01:20,208 --> 00:01:21,708 ANDY: This is just the beginning. 35 00:01:27,417 --> 00:01:30,125 TRAVIS: Guys, welcome back to Skinwalker Ranch. 36 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:33,083 I know when you left, you had some exciting things 37 00:01:33,208 --> 00:01:35,292 that you wanted to go and explore 38 00:01:35,375 --> 00:01:39,292 and we're really excited to see what you may have come up with. 39 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:41,250 This one's a little bit different because Brandon 40 00:01:41,375 --> 00:01:43,042 has actually set us up with an outside investigator. 41 00:01:43,167 --> 00:01:45,042 PAUL: Yeah, an investigator named Carl Andreasen. 42 00:01:45,167 --> 00:01:46,667 Carl is the guy who's been working 43 00:01:46,792 --> 00:01:48,833 on a place called Mount Wilson Ranch in Nevada, 44 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,042 and he's really been trying to dig into 45 00:01:51,167 --> 00:01:52,750 the high strangeness going on there 46 00:01:52,875 --> 00:01:55,500 -and there's a lot. -So where is Mount Wilson Ranch? 47 00:01:55,667 --> 00:01:58,833 ANDY: So, we're about 80 miles from Area 51. 48 00:01:58,958 --> 00:02:00,458 TRAVIS: And near the Nevada Test Range? 49 00:02:00,542 --> 00:02:02,500 -ANDY: Yes, sir. -PAUL: Right on top of it. 50 00:02:02,583 --> 00:02:04,500 ANDY: And we're not quite sure exactly where the boundary is 51 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:06,333 'cause it's a very rural part of Nevada. 52 00:02:06,458 --> 00:02:08,250 Well, that brings me to the question then. 53 00:02:08,375 --> 00:02:10,292 What can you tell us about the interest? 54 00:02:10,375 --> 00:02:12,167 Like, what's the commonality with the-- 55 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:14,083 with the research that's gone on here? 56 00:02:16,708 --> 00:02:18,667 PAUL: The connection between Mount Wilson and this place 57 00:02:18,833 --> 00:02:20,375 is pretty extraordinary. 58 00:02:20,542 --> 00:02:22,833 It's another property that Bob Bigelow owned, 59 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,708 really at the same time as Skinwalker. 60 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:28,042 ANNOUNCER: Aerospace entrepreneur Robert Bigelow 61 00:02:28,208 --> 00:02:31,625 owned Skinwalker Ranch before Brandon Fugal. 62 00:02:32,375 --> 00:02:34,917 BRANDON: In 1996, Robert Bigelow, 63 00:02:35,042 --> 00:02:36,833 bought Skinwalker Ranch. 64 00:02:36,917 --> 00:02:38,958 When his team conducted 65 00:02:39,042 --> 00:02:41,833 a very aggressive scientific investigation, 66 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,667 the Bigelow team ended up 67 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:46,500 having all sorts of strange things happen. 68 00:02:47,833 --> 00:02:49,542 They started seeing everything 69 00:02:49,708 --> 00:02:53,542 from electromagnetic anomalies, cattle mutilations. 70 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:56,208 It involves the full gamut 71 00:02:56,333 --> 00:03:00,625 of unexplained phenomena that we continue to monitor. 72 00:03:00,708 --> 00:03:02,875 ANNOUNCER: It has only recently been learned 73 00:03:03,042 --> 00:03:04,625 that Robert Bigelow was conducting 74 00:03:04,708 --> 00:03:08,042 a similar investigation at Mount Wilson Ranch. 75 00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:11,042 Yeah, so we've got some archival images 76 00:03:11,208 --> 00:03:13,292 that show Bigelow on this ranch. 77 00:03:14,417 --> 00:03:16,750 The main thing that was of interest to Bigelow 78 00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:19,250 was that he suspected there was a crashed 79 00:03:19,375 --> 00:03:22,500 or downed UFO underground a portion of the ranch. 80 00:03:22,625 --> 00:03:24,750 -Okay. -PAUL: Yeah, what we don't know 81 00:03:24,875 --> 00:03:27,042 is what kind of testing Bigelow carried out there 82 00:03:27,167 --> 00:03:28,667 or-- or what they found. 83 00:03:28,792 --> 00:03:30,500 We don't have any of their results or research. 84 00:03:30,583 --> 00:03:32,583 Yeah, I'm familiar with that problem. 85 00:03:33,250 --> 00:03:34,750 ANDY: But then what we've heard from Carl 86 00:03:34,875 --> 00:03:37,042 who actually investigates and explores the ranch, 87 00:03:37,167 --> 00:03:39,375 is that there is a potential existence 88 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,750 of some sort of top secret tunnel system on Mount Wilson. 89 00:03:42,875 --> 00:03:45,417 There's all kinds of reports of strange lights, 90 00:03:45,542 --> 00:03:47,917 noises underground, vibrations. 91 00:03:48,042 --> 00:03:49,500 You know, there are voids 92 00:03:49,625 --> 00:03:51,667 and potentially, spaces underground, 93 00:03:51,792 --> 00:03:54,250 but we don't know the extent of that network 94 00:03:54,375 --> 00:03:56,125 or how much of it may be manmade 95 00:03:56,250 --> 00:03:58,333 and how much of it is naturally occurring. 96 00:03:58,458 --> 00:04:00,292 ANDY: One of the most interesting things about this 97 00:04:00,417 --> 00:04:03,167 is that the current property owner, Jeff MacBurnie, 98 00:04:03,292 --> 00:04:06,292 actually bought the property from Bigelow. 99 00:04:07,458 --> 00:04:10,167 Yeah, what we don't know is what Bigelow may have told 100 00:04:10,292 --> 00:04:12,792 or not told Jeff when he bought the property. 101 00:04:12,875 --> 00:04:14,500 So, we've got a couple of field realities 102 00:04:14,667 --> 00:04:16,250 that we're also trying to work through here. 103 00:04:16,375 --> 00:04:18,458 We only have a few days that we can be on site 104 00:04:18,542 --> 00:04:20,667 and our weather reports are showing that there is a storm 105 00:04:20,833 --> 00:04:23,333 that is due to hit about six days after we land. 106 00:04:23,458 --> 00:04:25,292 PAUL: It's gonna be-- it's gonna be tight. 107 00:04:25,417 --> 00:04:27,042 And you-- and you don't know how much property 108 00:04:27,208 --> 00:04:29,000 you have to-- to investigate. 109 00:04:29,167 --> 00:04:31,000 Yeah. And it's just a big remote place. 110 00:04:31,125 --> 00:04:32,167 We're gonna be trekking around out there 111 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:33,833 trying to figure it out. 112 00:04:33,958 --> 00:04:36,042 But what we do know is that we wanna make sure 113 00:04:36,167 --> 00:04:37,500 that our efforts in Mount Wilson 114 00:04:37,583 --> 00:04:39,292 help the Skinwalker investigations 115 00:04:39,375 --> 00:04:41,250 that you guys are carrying out here as well. 116 00:04:41,375 --> 00:04:43,667 Who knows? Maybe you'll find something large, 117 00:04:43,833 --> 00:04:45,500 something significant. 118 00:04:45,583 --> 00:04:47,167 If you do find a buried UFO, 119 00:04:47,292 --> 00:04:49,000 you better call me at that moment. 120 00:04:49,083 --> 00:04:50,708 [all laughing] 121 00:04:50,875 --> 00:04:52,500 'Cause I'll be there-- I will be there instantly. 122 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:54,667 Yes, all right, stay in touch 123 00:04:54,833 --> 00:04:56,750 and let us know what you find out. 124 00:04:56,875 --> 00:04:58,417 -We'll see you in a week. -All right, guys. 125 00:04:58,542 --> 00:05:00,333 -ERIK: Stay in touch guys. -All right, man. 126 00:05:00,417 --> 00:05:01,375 -Thanks guys. -TRAVIS: Be safe. 127 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:04,458 [pensive music playing] 128 00:05:08,375 --> 00:05:10,500 ANDY: We have been driving for hours, man, 129 00:05:10,625 --> 00:05:13,167 -and look at what greets us. -It's just amazing. 130 00:05:13,292 --> 00:05:14,917 I can't believe we're in the desert right now. 131 00:05:15,042 --> 00:05:16,917 I know, well, high desert and winter, right, this is it. 132 00:05:17,042 --> 00:05:19,208 ANDY: Yeah. 133 00:05:19,375 --> 00:05:20,708 You know, I'm not surprised that Robert Bigelow 134 00:05:20,875 --> 00:05:23,375 would buy a place out here to do experimentation 135 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:25,500 because it fits his MO, right? 136 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:27,333 Find a place way off the map 137 00:05:27,458 --> 00:05:28,875 where you're not gonna be bothered, 138 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,333 you're not gonna be disturbed, 139 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:31,958 carry out whatever research you want. 140 00:05:32,042 --> 00:05:34,208 And we know that Bigelow was here with his team 141 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:35,708 for more than a decade. 142 00:05:35,833 --> 00:05:37,333 That's a lot of time to be researching-- 143 00:05:37,458 --> 00:05:39,083 -Yeah, that's true. -A plot of land. 144 00:05:39,208 --> 00:05:41,000 Ten years up here in the mountains. 145 00:05:41,167 --> 00:05:42,625 I mean, they must have been 146 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:44,542 -on the trail of something. -Something big. 147 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:47,292 PAUL: Something that still is a secret. 148 00:05:48,542 --> 00:05:50,625 ANNOUNCER: From the 1960s through the '80s, 149 00:05:50,708 --> 00:05:53,250 Mount Wilson Ranch was a Wild West themed hotel 150 00:05:53,375 --> 00:05:55,500 and resort property 151 00:05:55,583 --> 00:05:59,250 before being purchased by Robert Bigelow in 1996. 152 00:05:59,792 --> 00:06:01,500 -ANDY: All right. Wow. -PAUL: Look at this. 153 00:06:01,667 --> 00:06:03,792 ANDY: This place looks like genuine old West. 154 00:06:03,917 --> 00:06:06,375 PAUL: Absolutely. Right out of the movies, man. 155 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:08,000 ANDY: I'm excited to meet Jeff. 156 00:06:08,125 --> 00:06:09,542 PAUL: Yeah. 157 00:06:12,542 --> 00:06:14,042 Hello there, gentlemen. 158 00:06:14,208 --> 00:06:16,625 Hey, Jeff. Andy. 159 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:18,500 -Andy. You got it, man. -Nice to meet you. 160 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:20,708 -Great to finally see you. -Welcome to the ranch. 161 00:06:20,833 --> 00:06:23,292 -ANDY: This is amazing. -JEFF: Thank you. 162 00:06:23,375 --> 00:06:25,708 Tell us the story of this place. 163 00:06:25,875 --> 00:06:29,333 My whole goal was to basically buy a big chunk of property, 164 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:31,000 build a center building, 165 00:06:31,083 --> 00:06:33,167 let my family and relatives live around me. 166 00:06:33,292 --> 00:06:34,667 Got it. 167 00:06:34,750 --> 00:06:36,417 JEFF: So, I was looking for property 168 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:38,667 and I read this little listing in the back 169 00:06:38,833 --> 00:06:41,083 of a 25 cent newspaper article. 170 00:06:41,208 --> 00:06:42,792 PAUL: No way. 171 00:06:42,917 --> 00:06:44,500 And I purchased the ranch directly 172 00:06:44,625 --> 00:06:46,458 from Mr. Robert Bigelow. 173 00:06:46,583 --> 00:06:48,125 It was in 2007. 174 00:06:48,250 --> 00:06:49,833 -And you've been here since? -Yes. 175 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,333 And what has been your personal firsthand experience? 176 00:06:52,458 --> 00:06:54,667 You see a lot of things in the sky around here. 177 00:06:54,750 --> 00:06:57,833 I hear 'em explained as orbs, but they're just lights. 178 00:06:57,958 --> 00:07:00,125 Whether they're orange or they're white, 179 00:07:00,250 --> 00:07:01,750 almost like a haze. 180 00:07:01,875 --> 00:07:03,250 And the lights just... [imitates whooshing] 181 00:07:03,375 --> 00:07:05,250 ...and, you know, some of them are fast 182 00:07:05,375 --> 00:07:06,833 and you look and it's... 183 00:07:06,958 --> 00:07:09,250 Others are just slow. 184 00:07:09,375 --> 00:07:11,833 And they all seem to go right towards 185 00:07:11,958 --> 00:07:14,250 the actual Mount Wilson. 186 00:07:14,375 --> 00:07:17,083 And they just... ...and just poof, disappear. 187 00:07:17,208 --> 00:07:18,583 Wow. 188 00:07:18,708 --> 00:07:20,292 Did you know about that beforehand? 189 00:07:20,417 --> 00:07:22,833 Did you buy this place because... 190 00:07:22,958 --> 00:07:24,250 -No, not at all. -...of the stories? 191 00:07:24,375 --> 00:07:26,417 -Not even at all. No. -Got it. 192 00:07:26,542 --> 00:07:28,667 PAUL: One of the things that interests me the most 193 00:07:28,792 --> 00:07:31,333 is that when Jeff was looking into buying a ranch, 194 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:33,167 he didn't know anything about this place. 195 00:07:33,292 --> 00:07:36,208 Not until he got very close to actually closing the deal 196 00:07:36,333 --> 00:07:38,708 did he find out just the beginning 197 00:07:38,875 --> 00:07:41,042 of the lore of what had happened here. 198 00:07:41,208 --> 00:07:44,000 So, he didn't come here with a predetermined notion 199 00:07:44,125 --> 00:07:45,458 of what was out here. 200 00:07:45,542 --> 00:07:47,417 What has happened to him is-- is authentic. 201 00:07:47,542 --> 00:07:49,417 Bigelow bought this place in '96. 202 00:07:49,542 --> 00:07:51,458 -Yes. -Sold it to you in 2007. 203 00:07:51,542 --> 00:07:53,333 -Yes. -So, he had it 204 00:07:53,458 --> 00:07:54,500 -for more than a decade. -Yes. 205 00:07:54,625 --> 00:07:56,417 That's about the same time 206 00:07:56,542 --> 00:07:58,417 as he owned Skinwalker Ranch, isn't it? 207 00:07:58,542 --> 00:08:01,417 Within two weeks, he purchased both of these ranches. 208 00:08:01,542 --> 00:08:04,500 PAUL: As sort of two sites for 209 00:08:04,625 --> 00:08:07,667 an experiment or two sites of research? 210 00:08:07,750 --> 00:08:10,250 It makes perfect sense because you can compare results 211 00:08:10,375 --> 00:08:12,125 in real time on two separate locations. 212 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:13,917 You can have two real time teams 213 00:08:14,042 --> 00:08:16,000 running experiments, even the same experiment. 214 00:08:16,083 --> 00:08:20,500 I'm contacted pretty often by former people 215 00:08:20,625 --> 00:08:23,792 that were related to this property, scientists. 216 00:08:23,917 --> 00:08:25,542 You have scientists calling you? 217 00:08:25,708 --> 00:08:28,042 -I do. -To find out what exactly? 218 00:08:28,167 --> 00:08:30,417 If I've found something. 219 00:08:30,542 --> 00:08:33,333 You know, they believe down in our meadow 220 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:36,667 there's an object, something buried. 221 00:08:37,375 --> 00:08:38,792 ANDY: What kind of object? 222 00:08:38,917 --> 00:08:40,667 JEFF: There's a UFO buried there. 223 00:08:40,833 --> 00:08:42,333 ANDY: Wow. 224 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:43,583 ANDY: Jeff's telling these stories 225 00:08:43,708 --> 00:08:45,667 that are almost unbelievable, 226 00:08:45,833 --> 00:08:47,667 but there's this incredible connection, 227 00:08:47,792 --> 00:08:49,458 this connection that can't be ignored 228 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:50,833 between Skinwalker Ranch, 229 00:08:50,958 --> 00:08:52,708 which was owned by Robert Bigelow 230 00:08:52,833 --> 00:08:54,417 and Mount Wilson Ranch, 231 00:08:54,542 --> 00:08:56,375 which was also owned by Robert Bigelow. 232 00:08:56,542 --> 00:08:59,417 At this point, I have to find more information 233 00:08:59,542 --> 00:09:01,083 to come up with a really informed opinion 234 00:09:01,208 --> 00:09:02,208 of what's happening here. 235 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:04,625 I cannot help, but just 236 00:09:04,708 --> 00:09:06,625 right now I feel like I'm on Skinwalker Ranch. 237 00:09:06,708 --> 00:09:08,833 I was gonna say, we've heard this-- Seen this movie before. 238 00:09:08,917 --> 00:09:11,833 And I-- and I-- I can't-- It's-- I'm losing my words. 239 00:09:11,958 --> 00:09:14,292 So, you have researchers following up with you 240 00:09:14,417 --> 00:09:17,417 because they believe there might be sort of alien craft 241 00:09:17,542 --> 00:09:19,667 buried in a meadow on this property. 242 00:09:19,792 --> 00:09:21,542 Apparently, down in the meadow, 243 00:09:21,667 --> 00:09:25,250 there's something that emits a signal. 244 00:09:25,375 --> 00:09:26,583 PAUL: Interesting. 245 00:09:26,708 --> 00:09:28,667 There's a lot of-- a lot of history 246 00:09:28,750 --> 00:09:30,292 in the ground around here. 247 00:09:30,417 --> 00:09:31,750 -Can we go check it out? -Let's do it. 248 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:33,500 -Please. Thank you. -You got it. 249 00:09:33,625 --> 00:09:35,333 Great. This is super exciting. 250 00:09:35,458 --> 00:09:37,333 If you guys want, I do have Carl here, 251 00:09:37,458 --> 00:09:40,000 -if we wanna split up possibly. -Okay. 252 00:09:40,125 --> 00:09:43,083 [tense music playing] 253 00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:46,625 ANNOUNCER: While Paul splits off to investigate 254 00:09:46,750 --> 00:09:48,833 with researcher Carl Andreasen, 255 00:09:48,958 --> 00:09:51,833 Andy and Mount Wilson Ranch owner, Jeff MacBurnie, 256 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,917 head down to the lower meadow, 257 00:09:54,042 --> 00:09:57,708 which was once a focus of Robert Bigelow's investigation. 258 00:09:58,625 --> 00:10:00,583 Right here, we have a lot of pictures 259 00:10:00,708 --> 00:10:04,292 of the NIDS team actually out researching. 260 00:10:05,583 --> 00:10:07,000 History has it that there's a tractor 261 00:10:07,125 --> 00:10:09,000 that's located at Skinwalker Ranch now. 262 00:10:09,958 --> 00:10:12,375 That tractor was buried to the sea right here. 263 00:10:12,917 --> 00:10:14,292 It was stuck here for two years. 264 00:10:14,375 --> 00:10:17,000 This whole meadow here... 265 00:10:17,167 --> 00:10:20,458 is a fault line filled with sediment. 266 00:10:20,542 --> 00:10:22,417 Craw Creek runs down it here. 267 00:10:22,542 --> 00:10:24,000 -ANDY: This is the wash up here? -JEFF: Yes. 268 00:10:24,167 --> 00:10:25,833 -ANDY: This is Craw Creek? -JEFF: Yes. 269 00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:28,125 Is this also the area you were mentioning in the saloon 270 00:10:28,208 --> 00:10:29,833 where they suspect there's 271 00:10:29,917 --> 00:10:32,000 some kind of energy source buried? 272 00:10:32,083 --> 00:10:33,792 Yes. This is it. 273 00:10:33,917 --> 00:10:37,083 Everything south of here, all Nevada Test Site. 274 00:10:37,208 --> 00:10:40,542 ANDY: I find it really interesting on this location, 275 00:10:40,708 --> 00:10:42,750 we have a different kind of soil. 276 00:10:42,875 --> 00:10:45,292 We have a fault line and that this is an area 277 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:48,125 that is also suspected of having high energy readings. 278 00:10:48,208 --> 00:10:50,625 So, let me take a look and see what we've got here. 279 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:55,333 This is a simple Trifield meter. 280 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:57,250 It's gonna give us measurements of 281 00:10:57,375 --> 00:11:01,083 magnetic and electrical activity in this area in real time. 282 00:11:01,208 --> 00:11:04,458 -[Trifield meter beeping] -ANDY: All right. 283 00:11:04,542 --> 00:11:06,042 So, if you'll come over here with me, Jeff, 284 00:11:06,167 --> 00:11:08,208 I wanna take a look at the creek bed 285 00:11:08,375 --> 00:11:11,458 because if there is some sort of cavity under here, 286 00:11:11,542 --> 00:11:14,000 this would most likely be what feeds it. 287 00:11:14,125 --> 00:11:16,542 And if there is something buried here, 288 00:11:16,708 --> 00:11:18,333 it's most likely that this would be the entrance 289 00:11:18,458 --> 00:11:21,292 to make that hole. 290 00:11:24,875 --> 00:11:27,250 Still consistent with the rest of the meadow. 291 00:11:27,375 --> 00:11:29,458 Wanna drop down into that creek bed itself? 292 00:11:29,583 --> 00:11:31,167 Let's check it out. 293 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:34,917 Whoa! We just saw it increase. Look at this, Jeff. 294 00:11:35,042 --> 00:11:37,042 1.7. 295 00:11:38,625 --> 00:11:40,583 Those are significantly above 296 00:11:40,708 --> 00:11:42,250 what you would see in other parts of the country. 297 00:11:42,375 --> 00:11:46,500 If 0.4 MGOs is high, 1.7 is four times as high, 298 00:11:46,667 --> 00:11:48,375 that's 400% higher. 299 00:11:48,542 --> 00:11:50,083 There's something in this area 300 00:11:50,208 --> 00:11:53,333 that's creating that change in magnetic activity. 301 00:11:53,458 --> 00:11:55,958 And the reason magnetic activity is important, Jeff, 302 00:11:56,042 --> 00:11:58,750 is because what does magnetic activity always follow? 303 00:11:58,875 --> 00:12:00,750 Electrical activity. 304 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:02,500 So this means there is an electrical energy source 305 00:12:02,625 --> 00:12:06,667 of some sort that's creating a magnetic field around it. 306 00:12:07,833 --> 00:12:09,208 This is interesting for sure. 307 00:12:14,125 --> 00:12:15,792 PAUL: So we're headed out toward the mountain now? 308 00:12:15,875 --> 00:12:17,833 CARL: Yes, we're going up to where 309 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,875 these abandoned mines are 310 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,750 that could be tunnels and cave systems. 311 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:23,833 -PAUL: Wow. -ANNOUNCER: Paul heads out 312 00:12:23,958 --> 00:12:26,458 with veteran Mount Wilson researcher, Carl Andreasen 313 00:12:26,583 --> 00:12:28,417 to two abandoned mine entrances 314 00:12:28,542 --> 00:12:31,458 that his investigation suggest could be keys 315 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:33,333 to the ranches' secrets. 316 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:35,625 CARL: This is the first one that Jeff actually showed me. 317 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:38,125 Some kind of an access point. 318 00:12:38,208 --> 00:12:39,667 PAUL: So this isn't just a depression, 319 00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:41,250 -there's an opening? -CARL: Yes. 320 00:12:41,375 --> 00:12:43,042 So there's potential. 321 00:12:43,208 --> 00:12:44,958 This whole side of the mountain could be, like, 322 00:12:45,083 --> 00:12:47,292 a honeycomb, a network of tunnels and cave systems 323 00:12:47,417 --> 00:12:50,333 that lead all the way into the mountain and underground. 324 00:12:50,417 --> 00:12:52,042 Right. This is all connected. 325 00:12:52,208 --> 00:12:53,958 -CARL: Yeah. -PAUL: It's obvious. 326 00:12:54,042 --> 00:12:55,750 You can see all over this hillside 327 00:12:55,875 --> 00:12:58,250 that people have been trying to get underground here. 328 00:12:58,375 --> 00:13:00,167 And the question is why? 329 00:13:00,292 --> 00:13:02,000 Like, are these just simply mines 330 00:13:02,083 --> 00:13:04,667 or is there something much more mysterious? 331 00:13:04,792 --> 00:13:07,500 Is there something out of this world down there? 332 00:13:07,667 --> 00:13:09,542 And all of that then funnels, 333 00:13:09,667 --> 00:13:11,958 it flows down right in the meadow 334 00:13:12,042 --> 00:13:14,333 where supposedly the craft is buried 335 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:16,375 -and transmitting the signals. -PAUL: Got it. 336 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,167 PAUL: Brandon Fugal connected us with Carl and-- 337 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:21,458 and Carl has a really deep knowledge base. 338 00:13:21,542 --> 00:13:24,125 I mean, not only has he researched the ranch itself 339 00:13:24,208 --> 00:13:26,333 here on the ground, he has been in touch 340 00:13:26,417 --> 00:13:29,542 with a lot of the members of Bigelow's team. 341 00:13:29,708 --> 00:13:32,000 So when Carl says that these mines 342 00:13:32,125 --> 00:13:34,125 may be part of some kind of tunnel network 343 00:13:34,250 --> 00:13:36,833 that leads all the way to a buried UFO, 344 00:13:36,958 --> 00:13:38,875 I mean as wild as that sounds, 345 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,833 he's got that from the scientists 346 00:13:40,917 --> 00:13:42,792 who were here researching before us. 347 00:13:42,917 --> 00:13:44,167 So, I mean, that's a lead 348 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:45,708 that we've gotta try to run down. 349 00:13:45,833 --> 00:13:47,500 We would have to either dig it out 350 00:13:47,667 --> 00:13:49,125 or find a way to access 351 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:51,375 and figure out which one of these entrances 352 00:13:51,542 --> 00:13:53,125 is the best point to go in 353 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:55,458 and see if they actually lead somewhere. 354 00:13:59,583 --> 00:14:01,917 ANNOUNCER: In order to thoroughly test Carl's theory 355 00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:04,000 that the abandoned mine entrances connect 356 00:14:04,125 --> 00:14:06,000 to a possible underground tunnel system, 357 00:14:06,167 --> 00:14:08,333 Andy and Paul are bringing in a new team 358 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:12,000 of geophysical survey experts, Terra Exploration Group. 359 00:14:12,083 --> 00:14:14,083 -ANDY: Hey, morning, guys. -BOB: Hey, morning. 360 00:14:14,208 --> 00:14:16,333 -How's it going, sir? -How are you? 361 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:18,792 Look at this clear sky, wide open terrain. 362 00:14:18,875 --> 00:14:20,333 It's gonna be a great day to collect. 363 00:14:20,417 --> 00:14:21,708 BOB: Beautiful. 364 00:14:21,875 --> 00:14:23,042 Well, we'll see if we can pick up 365 00:14:23,167 --> 00:14:25,167 with a magnetometer, [indistinct]. 366 00:14:25,250 --> 00:14:26,833 ROBERT: All right, so we gotta get this sucker 367 00:14:26,917 --> 00:14:29,042 up in air real quick before it gets too cold. 368 00:14:30,125 --> 00:14:31,833 These things are a little picky. 369 00:14:32,583 --> 00:14:35,333 ANNOUNCER: In 2020, the Skinwalker Ranch team 370 00:14:35,417 --> 00:14:38,083 used a magnetometer drone that identified 371 00:14:38,208 --> 00:14:41,042 something significant hidden underground next to the mesa. 372 00:14:41,208 --> 00:14:42,625 ERIK: It's telling us there's something going on 373 00:14:42,708 --> 00:14:44,208 in the ground, 374 00:14:44,333 --> 00:14:46,167 particularly there at the homestead area. 375 00:14:46,292 --> 00:14:48,917 I mean, it's clearly a magnetic anomaly there. 376 00:14:49,042 --> 00:14:50,875 ANNOUNCER: Now, the team is conducting 377 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,000 the same experiment on Mount Wilson Ranch. 378 00:14:54,167 --> 00:14:55,833 The potential for these caverns 379 00:14:55,958 --> 00:14:58,750 to be connected underground, it's very logical. 380 00:14:58,875 --> 00:15:00,167 There's something here underground, 381 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,458 we just don't know what it is. 382 00:15:02,542 --> 00:15:05,792 ANNOUNCER: Terra's drone flies in a pre-programmed grid pattern 383 00:15:05,917 --> 00:15:08,375 using GPS coordinates for navigation. 384 00:15:08,542 --> 00:15:11,333 The attached magnetometer will look for evidence 385 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:13,333 of possible void spaces 386 00:15:13,458 --> 00:15:15,667 and tunnels below the mine entrances. 387 00:15:15,792 --> 00:15:19,167 It will also try to pinpoint an underground source 388 00:15:19,333 --> 00:15:21,083 for the high electromagnetic readings 389 00:15:21,208 --> 00:15:23,292 Andy saw in the Lower Meadow. 390 00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:25,875 ROBERT: All right, here we go. 391 00:15:27,375 --> 00:15:29,667 [drone whirring] 392 00:15:29,792 --> 00:15:32,667 ROBERT: Beautiful. There it goes. 393 00:15:33,583 --> 00:15:36,208 All right. We're gonna let it run a little grid. 394 00:15:36,375 --> 00:15:38,542 ANDY: So Robert, the grid, I wanna make sure 395 00:15:38,708 --> 00:15:41,417 we cover this entrance here and the other up the ridge. 396 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:43,083 So, what's our range? 397 00:15:43,208 --> 00:15:45,542 ROBERT: We got probably a couple acres. 398 00:15:45,667 --> 00:15:47,708 -ANDY: How long is this flight? -ROBERT: It's eight minutes. 399 00:15:47,833 --> 00:15:49,042 ANDY: Eight minutes. 400 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:52,000 ROBERT: I tell you, it does not like flying over here. 401 00:15:52,958 --> 00:15:54,458 Does anything weird ever happen over here? 402 00:15:54,542 --> 00:15:56,542 Because it-- it-- it's-- See how it's kind of squirrely? 403 00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:59,042 PAUL: I was gonna say, it's making the grid, 404 00:15:59,167 --> 00:16:01,542 but it seems to be flying erratically. 405 00:16:01,667 --> 00:16:04,125 Is that-- is that normal? 406 00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:06,417 ROBERT: It-- No, it should fly straighter than that. 407 00:16:06,542 --> 00:16:08,458 It doesn't like something over here, that's for sure. 408 00:16:08,542 --> 00:16:10,458 It's swinging that magnetometer all over the place. 409 00:16:10,583 --> 00:16:12,125 ANDY: Look at that oscillation. You see that? 410 00:16:12,250 --> 00:16:13,917 I'm gonna pause it just for a second. 411 00:16:15,542 --> 00:16:18,167 ANDY: Hey, Robert, do you need to-- Is that safe? 412 00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:20,250 ROBERT: There's some kind of disturbance over here 413 00:16:20,375 --> 00:16:22,708 -that it's not liking. -PAUL: Sure looks like it. 414 00:16:23,542 --> 00:16:25,250 ROBERT: I'm gonna bring it home real quick. 415 00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:27,000 It looks like it's trying to fly 416 00:16:27,083 --> 00:16:29,167 through a force field or something. 417 00:16:29,292 --> 00:16:30,625 ANDY: Yeah, it's bouncing all over the place. 418 00:16:30,750 --> 00:16:32,375 Come on. 419 00:16:32,542 --> 00:16:34,208 ANDY: Did you lose control of it? 420 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:36,292 PAUL: That is way off track. That is way off track. 421 00:16:36,375 --> 00:16:38,375 [all exclaim] 422 00:16:38,542 --> 00:16:39,500 ROBERT: There it goes. 423 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:41,583 Dang it. 424 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:45,250 -PAUL: I heard it hit wood. -ROBERT: Oh, yeah. 425 00:16:45,375 --> 00:16:47,208 ANDY: It's stuck in a tree or something? 426 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:48,792 It's in here somewhere. 427 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:50,958 -ANDY: Found it. -ROBERT: You got it? 428 00:16:52,208 --> 00:16:54,000 -Oh, no. -PAUL: Oof. 429 00:16:54,083 --> 00:16:56,208 [drone beeping] 430 00:16:56,333 --> 00:16:58,042 Did we lose a prop or a motor? 431 00:16:58,167 --> 00:16:59,750 Yeah, you lost a little bit. 432 00:16:59,875 --> 00:17:02,000 PAUL: That's unfortunate. 433 00:17:02,125 --> 00:17:05,375 This came off, um, looks like we lost a motor. 434 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:07,292 -This snapped. -I wonder where that motor went. 435 00:17:07,375 --> 00:17:08,667 And it ripped the wires off. 436 00:17:09,542 --> 00:17:11,625 So, Robert, do you know what happened? 437 00:17:11,708 --> 00:17:14,500 Something weird, I've never seen it fly all erratic like that. 438 00:17:14,625 --> 00:17:16,500 We do this, you know, we do this all the time. 439 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:18,583 Yeah, there's no wind. It's not that cold. 440 00:17:18,708 --> 00:17:21,375 I mean, it's almost like it was being jammed or-- 441 00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:23,625 That was the same thought that went through my head. 442 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:25,917 ANDY: With our proximity to the Nevada Test Site, 443 00:17:26,042 --> 00:17:28,042 this is a known area of high strangeness 444 00:17:28,167 --> 00:17:31,500 and a known research facility for NIDS 445 00:17:31,583 --> 00:17:33,917 and that was performance from a piece of equipment 446 00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:36,208 that we did not expect to perform in that way. 447 00:17:36,375 --> 00:17:37,875 It's consistent with anomalous activity 448 00:17:38,042 --> 00:17:40,292 we've seen in Skinwalker Ranch 449 00:17:40,375 --> 00:17:42,375 and what we've seen in our previous investigation. 450 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:45,125 What I saw play out was not natural. 451 00:17:45,208 --> 00:17:46,875 There is something happening here 452 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,333 that brought that drone down. 453 00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:50,458 If there is some sort of downed aircraft 454 00:17:50,583 --> 00:17:52,500 emitting a signal, emitting energy, 455 00:17:52,667 --> 00:17:54,875 it could be enough to scramble a satellite signal. 456 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,667 It could also be enough to confuse an electronic device 457 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:59,167 as sophisticated as a drone. 458 00:17:59,333 --> 00:18:01,583 Well, what we'll have to do 459 00:18:01,708 --> 00:18:04,625 is old school like we used to do all the time. 460 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:07,125 We can walk it, but it's a lot of walking. 461 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:09,375 Can you pull the data that you got so far? 462 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:11,958 I'd say we got at least half of it. 463 00:18:12,083 --> 00:18:14,583 We can put the young buck walking a grid. 464 00:18:14,708 --> 00:18:17,333 PAUL: And then follow that down to the Lower Meadow as well. 465 00:18:17,417 --> 00:18:19,958 Brogan, I'll help you get set up for the ground survey. 466 00:18:20,083 --> 00:18:20,958 -Sounds good. -Great. All right. 467 00:18:21,042 --> 00:18:21,708 Let's do it. 468 00:18:25,708 --> 00:18:27,000 ANDY: All right. 469 00:18:27,125 --> 00:18:28,875 ROBERT: Zig zag back and forth. 470 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,458 And you can just carry that by itself. 471 00:18:30,583 --> 00:18:32,292 Well, you would hang it a foot off the ground, 472 00:18:32,375 --> 00:18:34,042 something like that, and just walk with it. 473 00:18:34,208 --> 00:18:36,125 PAUL: Let's go, man. 474 00:18:36,208 --> 00:18:37,583 ANNOUNCER: The team pulls the magnetometer device 475 00:18:37,708 --> 00:18:39,750 off the crashed drone 476 00:18:39,875 --> 00:18:42,125 to finish the void survey by hand and foot. 477 00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:44,125 ANDY: So, we're just gonna cut back and forth 478 00:18:44,208 --> 00:18:46,500 and we'll make maybe three passes across here? 479 00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:48,875 ANNOUNCER: Although it's a slower process, 480 00:18:49,042 --> 00:18:51,625 they'll still be able to scan the rest of the mine area. 481 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:53,833 -ANDY: And back up the hill? -BROGAN: Yes, sir. 482 00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:55,667 Right down the middle. 483 00:18:55,792 --> 00:18:57,375 ANNOUNCER: They will also do a magnetometer survey 484 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,542 of the entire lower meadow by hand, 485 00:18:59,667 --> 00:19:03,000 where Andy earlier recorded strange magnetic readings 486 00:19:03,083 --> 00:19:05,875 and Robert Bigelow was reportedly searching 487 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,875 for a buried UFO. 488 00:19:08,542 --> 00:19:09,958 ANDY: Right here on the lower meadow, 489 00:19:10,042 --> 00:19:11,875 it all kinda connects. 490 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,167 Just that it's so different from the area around it, you know? 491 00:19:15,292 --> 00:19:16,833 And then our last path will take us 492 00:19:16,917 --> 00:19:18,333 right in front of the barn? 493 00:19:18,417 --> 00:19:19,792 That should be good. 494 00:19:20,875 --> 00:19:22,250 ANNOUNCER: Later that day, 495 00:19:22,375 --> 00:19:24,333 the team gathers at the lower meadow 496 00:19:24,417 --> 00:19:26,792 to reveal the magnetometer results. 497 00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:28,833 ROBERT: All right guys, we got something interesting here. 498 00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:30,500 Check that out. 499 00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:32,417 PAUL: So this is the scan of the Lower Meadow? 500 00:19:32,542 --> 00:19:34,333 Yes, this is the bottom of the field here, correct. 501 00:19:34,417 --> 00:19:36,167 -We're walking up the meadow. -PAUL: Yes. Okay. 502 00:19:36,292 --> 00:19:38,292 ROBERT: But now this to me looks like something 503 00:19:38,417 --> 00:19:40,375 is interrupting the mag signal. 504 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:41,958 So it's like-- It's an even pulse. 505 00:19:42,083 --> 00:19:44,083 I mean, look how evenly apart they are. 506 00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,375 There's something that's just stopping it. 507 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,542 Like, the mag is turning on and off. 508 00:19:48,667 --> 00:19:50,542 -Right. -ROBERT: And it could be that 509 00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:53,958 something else is disturbing the regular magnetic field 510 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:56,125 and it's confusing the magnetometer. 511 00:19:56,208 --> 00:19:58,833 Have you seen anything like this before? 512 00:19:58,958 --> 00:20:00,333 No. That's very strange. 513 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,292 ANDY: Look at how straight these lines are. 514 00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:04,000 The dark lines where the pulsations happen, 515 00:20:04,125 --> 00:20:05,958 where the lack of signal comes through. 516 00:20:06,042 --> 00:20:09,000 This does not look like a natural, organic anomaly. 517 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:10,750 I am blown away because of Jeff said 518 00:20:10,875 --> 00:20:12,792 Robert Bigelow was digging here 519 00:20:12,917 --> 00:20:16,542 trying to find some sort of unexplainable energy source 520 00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:18,333 under the ground, and now we actually have evidence 521 00:20:18,458 --> 00:20:20,083 that shows there is something there. 522 00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:22,375 We just don't know how deep it might be. 523 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:25,250 ANNOUNCER: With intriguing results at the lower meadow, 524 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:27,833 but no definitive target identified, 525 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,208 Robert Leonard will now merge the data from the crashed drone 526 00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:35,167 with their handheld magnetometer survey at the mines. 527 00:20:35,292 --> 00:20:36,500 ROBERT: I'm sorry it took me so long. 528 00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:38,125 ANDY: No, no. This is great. 529 00:20:38,208 --> 00:20:39,708 PAUL: What do we have? 530 00:20:39,833 --> 00:20:43,000 Well, I'll explain what took me so long 531 00:20:43,167 --> 00:20:44,583 and it's just-- just gonna blow you away. 532 00:20:45,792 --> 00:20:48,583 Okay, so here's the overview of the ranch. 533 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:50,375 These little pins is where we did our-- 534 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,542 Kind of our survey areas. 535 00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:55,833 This area over here around that first mine, 536 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,708 this was where we had trouble with the drone. 537 00:20:57,875 --> 00:21:00,500 But I'll show you what-- what we ended up with here. 538 00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:02,625 And so we'll go over this 3D view. 539 00:21:03,708 --> 00:21:06,250 -These are quite significant. -PAUL: Wow. 540 00:21:06,375 --> 00:21:08,375 ROBERT: It's a huge magnetic disturbance 541 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,375 that's typically gonna be indicative of a void. 542 00:21:11,542 --> 00:21:14,167 So mine one has two voids? 543 00:21:14,292 --> 00:21:15,542 ANDY: There's multiple entry points. 544 00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,167 -You can see them all. -ROBERT: Yeah. 545 00:21:17,292 --> 00:21:19,417 And this one down here, the one that had 546 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:21,750 that significant drop is the second one. 547 00:21:22,708 --> 00:21:24,333 PAUL: Because this is a magnetic void, 548 00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:27,375 would that suggest possibly that one and two 549 00:21:27,542 --> 00:21:30,083 and possibly something else that we couldn't see are connected? 550 00:21:30,208 --> 00:21:31,708 -ROBERT: Exactly -PAUL: Right? 551 00:21:31,875 --> 00:21:33,792 You know, this can connect to the lower field. 552 00:21:33,875 --> 00:21:36,250 So, for all I know, this is a way to get in. 553 00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:37,958 If you guys want something 554 00:21:38,042 --> 00:21:40,583 to actually explore further, this-- this is the place. 555 00:21:40,708 --> 00:21:42,625 That'd be the place to do it 'cause it's a shallowest. 556 00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:45,625 I mean, what it sounds like we need to do is-- 557 00:21:45,708 --> 00:21:48,333 is uncover what's below the surface. 558 00:21:48,417 --> 00:21:49,875 The question is how do we do that? 559 00:21:50,750 --> 00:21:53,000 ANNOUNCER: In 2021, the Skinwalker team 560 00:21:53,083 --> 00:21:54,875 found an opening in the mesa 561 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,583 that they believe leads to an underground tunnel system. 562 00:21:57,708 --> 00:21:59,792 MAN: Hey, I found what looks like to be a cavern. 563 00:21:59,875 --> 00:22:02,208 MAN 2: Oh, yeah. Pretty sure this is it. 564 00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:04,458 We're hoping that we can go drill through it 565 00:22:04,583 --> 00:22:06,583 and see if we hit any voids. 566 00:22:06,708 --> 00:22:08,917 MAN 3: This drilling process takes a lot of time. 567 00:22:09,042 --> 00:22:10,792 ANNOUNCER: To investigate, they brought in 568 00:22:10,875 --> 00:22:12,958 a boring machine to drill into the rock. 569 00:22:13,042 --> 00:22:16,458 We could have found one of the most significant finds, 570 00:22:16,583 --> 00:22:19,250 not only on the ranch, but maybe the entire Uintah Basin. 571 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,083 ANNOUNCER: But with a storm rolling in, 572 00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:22,708 Andy and Paul won't have enough time 573 00:22:22,833 --> 00:22:26,083 to bring in a heavy duty drill of their own. 574 00:22:26,208 --> 00:22:28,417 ANDY: Our weather reports are showing 575 00:22:28,542 --> 00:22:30,667 that there is a storm that is due to hit tomorrow. 576 00:22:30,792 --> 00:22:32,958 We can't drill, that's-- The time and effort 577 00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:34,667 it would take for that kind of infrastructure. 578 00:22:34,792 --> 00:22:36,750 BOB: What about explosives? What about that? 579 00:22:36,875 --> 00:22:38,125 Just blast our way in? 580 00:22:39,042 --> 00:22:41,458 Plant a little dynamite in there and blow it out. 581 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:42,833 That's an alternative. 582 00:22:42,958 --> 00:22:45,000 ANDY: It's got a lot of benefits to it. 583 00:22:45,083 --> 00:22:46,750 It's cheaper, it's faster. 584 00:22:46,875 --> 00:22:49,042 We have access points right here in the mining area. 585 00:22:49,167 --> 00:22:50,667 With the mine results, 586 00:22:50,792 --> 00:22:52,667 we finally have something that we can pursue, 587 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:54,292 something that we can take action on, 588 00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:55,792 an experiment that we can really set up, 589 00:22:55,917 --> 00:22:57,333 but we have to work against the weather 590 00:22:57,458 --> 00:22:58,750 and against the clock. 591 00:22:58,875 --> 00:23:00,833 And the fastest way to get underground 592 00:23:00,917 --> 00:23:02,208 isn't through digging or drilling, 593 00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:03,667 it's through blasting. 594 00:23:03,792 --> 00:23:05,667 What hornets' nest might we be kicking 595 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:07,833 when we blast these mines? 596 00:23:07,958 --> 00:23:09,667 If you want answers, you gotta do it. 597 00:23:09,792 --> 00:23:13,500 Jeff, could we actually use explosives 598 00:23:13,625 --> 00:23:15,333 to get deeper into these caves? 599 00:23:15,458 --> 00:23:17,208 I would say let's do it. 600 00:23:17,333 --> 00:23:19,000 We happen to know a guy pretty close by 601 00:23:19,083 --> 00:23:21,500 that's an explosive expert. 602 00:23:21,625 --> 00:23:23,292 This guy blows stuff up for a living 603 00:23:23,375 --> 00:23:25,625 -and he loves doing it. -Sounds good. 604 00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,667 Sounds like we've got a big day ahead of us. 605 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:29,667 Get to blow some stuff up. 606 00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:32,333 ANDY: And if we're lucky, we're gonna crawl inside. 607 00:23:32,417 --> 00:23:33,750 BOB: Yeah, exactly. 608 00:23:39,875 --> 00:23:41,833 JACK: We have a trailer full of explosives. 609 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,417 We have a lot of gear. 610 00:23:43,542 --> 00:23:45,333 My understanding is that our spot 611 00:23:45,417 --> 00:23:47,000 is over in that direction. 612 00:23:47,167 --> 00:23:48,917 PAUL: We're looking to open up what we think 613 00:23:49,042 --> 00:23:50,375 are some mine entrances. 614 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:51,875 We've got a lot of evidence, 615 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,500 and we've done a lot of research up here. 616 00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:55,792 We've run a lot of numbers that 617 00:23:55,875 --> 00:23:57,708 -there's something underground. -Excellent. 618 00:23:57,833 --> 00:23:59,375 How much dynamite do we have here today? 619 00:23:59,542 --> 00:24:00,667 JACK: Well... 620 00:24:01,625 --> 00:24:03,500 we've got about 500 of these sticks. 621 00:24:03,625 --> 00:24:05,333 -PAUL: 500 sticks of dynamite. -ANDY: Oh, man. 622 00:24:05,458 --> 00:24:06,958 Plus some extra materials like boosters 623 00:24:07,042 --> 00:24:08,667 that actually make these go even harder. 624 00:24:08,792 --> 00:24:11,375 What I wanna do is surgical blasting. 625 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,500 We don't wanna blow the side of the mountain up. 626 00:24:13,625 --> 00:24:15,667 We just want to carefully cut into that tunnel 627 00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:17,625 so we can get into it safely 628 00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:19,625 and not have rocks fall on us once we're in there. 629 00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:21,667 PAUL: So let's clear it out and then we'll set the charge. 630 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:23,167 -Let's pack it up. -CARL: Let's go. 631 00:24:25,375 --> 00:24:26,833 MAN: I brought the shovel. 632 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,583 -PAUL: This is my number one. -JACK: Okay. 633 00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:31,417 PAUL: The more of this we can get out 634 00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:33,333 before we set the charge, the better. 635 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,792 ANNOUNCER: With the impending storm closing in 636 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,708 and time drawing short, the team decides to use 637 00:24:38,833 --> 00:24:41,667 Jeff's excavator to dig down as far as possible 638 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:43,500 prior to blasting. 639 00:24:43,625 --> 00:24:45,208 JACK: That's a lot more than we could do 640 00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:47,042 with our shovels, that's for sure. 641 00:24:47,167 --> 00:24:48,833 ANNOUNCER: This will not only increase their chances 642 00:24:48,917 --> 00:24:51,333 of reaching the potential tunnel entrances 643 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:53,125 with single targeted blasts. 644 00:24:53,208 --> 00:24:54,833 We gotta crack that open 645 00:24:54,958 --> 00:24:57,000 and try to get in there and take a look today. 646 00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:59,333 ANNOUNCER: But will also reduce the chance of injury 647 00:24:59,458 --> 00:25:01,750 from deadly rock projectiles. 648 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:04,583 PAUL: Let's take a look. Jack, you tell me. 649 00:25:04,708 --> 00:25:06,792 JACK: You got a nice hole there to put a charge into. 650 00:25:06,917 --> 00:25:08,500 PAUL: Oh, look at that crack right there. 651 00:25:08,625 --> 00:25:09,833 -Yep. -JACK: It almost looks like 652 00:25:09,958 --> 00:25:11,750 there's almost a front edge. 653 00:25:11,875 --> 00:25:13,667 -PAUL: Yeah. Right there. -That might go underneath there. 654 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:15,333 PAUL: Right underneath that much ledge right there. 655 00:25:15,417 --> 00:25:16,833 Jack and I hit it with the probe? 656 00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:18,292 Absolutely. 657 00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,000 PAUL: All right. 658 00:25:21,208 --> 00:25:22,125 Step down here. 659 00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:25,583 You can see that whole chunk of rock 660 00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:27,542 is cracked off the top there. 661 00:25:27,708 --> 00:25:29,542 CARL: You got a lot of loose material. 662 00:25:29,708 --> 00:25:31,167 ANDY: Wait. Listen to that, guys. Listen. 663 00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:32,875 [clanking] 664 00:25:35,792 --> 00:25:37,292 PAUL: Sounded hollow for a minute. 665 00:25:37,417 --> 00:25:39,875 It did sound hollow for a minute. 666 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,750 -Just be careful down there. -PAUL: Yeah. 667 00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:43,292 I mean, that-- This might not be stable, 668 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:44,667 so I'm not gonna poke around 669 00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:46,500 under there anymore right now. 670 00:25:46,667 --> 00:25:48,167 Let's check out number two. 671 00:25:48,292 --> 00:25:51,167 [tense music plays] 672 00:25:53,708 --> 00:25:55,583 BRANDON: So, this is the big one. 673 00:25:55,708 --> 00:25:57,708 Hole number two is where we have the largest readings 674 00:25:57,833 --> 00:25:59,500 of open void space. 675 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,250 PAUL: This is the deepest anomaly we've found. 676 00:26:01,375 --> 00:26:02,958 Right? As far as we can tell. 677 00:26:03,042 --> 00:26:06,250 -CARL: Wow. -JACK: Look at all the sawdust. 678 00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:08,000 PAUL: Somebody filled this in. 679 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,125 It's not solid yet, though. It's still loose. 680 00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:11,917 Look at all this wood. 681 00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:13,833 ANDY: And the difference between the contents 682 00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:17,667 of this mine and the first mine are totally different. 683 00:26:17,833 --> 00:26:19,625 All dirt and rock over there. 684 00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:22,042 This is just, this was filled with lumber. 685 00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:24,750 I don't know how that wood would get in there, honestly. 686 00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:27,167 ANDY: Yeah, cut wood, like, this has been covered back up. 687 00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:29,500 So, there's evidence that people have filled this back in. 688 00:26:29,625 --> 00:26:31,583 JACK: And I'm not seeing any of the ash-- 689 00:26:31,708 --> 00:26:34,125 -Whoa. Look at that. -CARL: Whoa. Look at that. 690 00:26:35,042 --> 00:26:37,875 JACK: That's pretty deep. That's going way in there. 691 00:26:38,042 --> 00:26:40,708 PAUL: Whoa. I'm not hitting rock here. 692 00:26:40,875 --> 00:26:43,292 I did not expect this much sawdust. 693 00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,167 I mean, look at this. 694 00:26:45,292 --> 00:26:47,208 ANDY: While there's always been a tradition 695 00:26:47,333 --> 00:26:49,000 that we've known of where miners might put wooden planks 696 00:26:49,167 --> 00:26:51,708 on top of an abandoned hole, that does not result 697 00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:55,208 in this level of pulverized wood pulp. 698 00:26:55,375 --> 00:26:57,833 Who would put that much effort into filling a hole 699 00:26:57,917 --> 00:27:00,167 with timber and for what reason? 700 00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:04,208 PAUL: So the question is, what are they hiding? 701 00:27:04,875 --> 00:27:06,292 -This could be it. -This is what we've been 702 00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:07,500 looking for, man. 703 00:27:07,583 --> 00:27:09,333 We're gonna find out, right? 704 00:27:09,458 --> 00:27:11,125 CARL: That's right. 705 00:27:11,208 --> 00:27:12,958 PAUL: It feels like the wind is picking back up. 706 00:27:13,042 --> 00:27:14,708 -Maybe we should just blast. -All right. 707 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,125 Yeah, we just don't have much time. 708 00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:19,167 CARL: Get the rope around the tree and try to 709 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:20,583 get the charge against the base there 710 00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:21,958 against that rock and maybe get 711 00:27:22,042 --> 00:27:23,667 -a good push up and out. -JACK: Yep. 712 00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,375 So, we're not just kicking the hornets' nest. 713 00:27:25,542 --> 00:27:27,000 We're just blowing the [bleep] out of it. 714 00:27:27,125 --> 00:27:29,000 -[all laughing] -That's a good way to put it. 715 00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:39,125 JACK: According to the weather, we got maybe two hours 716 00:27:39,208 --> 00:27:41,583 before full blizzard, so we gotta move fast. 717 00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,042 CARL: Okay. 718 00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,958 ANNOUNCER: Andy, Paul and the team 719 00:27:45,083 --> 00:27:47,500 at Mount Wilson Ranch have one chance 720 00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:51,000 to try to blast their way into two abandoned mine entrances 721 00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:53,708 that might connect to an underground tunnel system 722 00:27:53,875 --> 00:27:57,125 leading to what is rumored to be a buried UFO. 723 00:27:57,250 --> 00:27:59,625 But a winter storm is moving in 724 00:27:59,708 --> 00:28:02,000 and could shut them down any minute. 725 00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:04,417 PAUL: It looks like this may be our last crack at this. 726 00:28:04,542 --> 00:28:06,208 -We gotta go big today. -JACK: We do. 727 00:28:06,333 --> 00:28:08,042 I made a little plan for that. 728 00:28:08,167 --> 00:28:12,042 I built a charge that is about 24 pounds. 729 00:28:12,167 --> 00:28:13,708 ANDY: Oh, my gosh! 730 00:28:13,875 --> 00:28:16,042 Hopefully, this is enough to breach the tunnel. 731 00:28:18,875 --> 00:28:20,417 PAUL: This is our last shot at this. 732 00:28:20,542 --> 00:28:22,417 After this storm, this is gonna be buried for months. 733 00:28:22,542 --> 00:28:24,292 ANDY: There's something under there 734 00:28:24,375 --> 00:28:26,875 and it's trying it's damndest not to be found. 735 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,625 It feels like it. We just gotta clear it out. 736 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,125 JACK: We've got a live hole here. 737 00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:33,125 -Let's get outta here. -ANDY: All right. 738 00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:36,458 I want this network, brother. I wanna find this thing. 739 00:28:43,375 --> 00:28:44,667 PAUL: Wow, this weather. 740 00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:46,333 -Unbelievable. -JACK: Yeah. 741 00:28:46,417 --> 00:28:48,333 Mother nature had an opinion about today, man. 742 00:28:49,042 --> 00:28:50,500 -This is the second explosive. -CARL: Yeah. 743 00:28:50,583 --> 00:28:53,333 JACK: That looks like ACME dynamite, if ever I saw it. 744 00:28:53,458 --> 00:28:55,625 X marks the spot right here. 745 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:58,542 PAUL: All that loose mulch and wood. 746 00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:00,917 You ever see anything like this before? 747 00:29:01,042 --> 00:29:03,667 A hold this deep filled in for no apparent reason? 748 00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:05,083 JACK: No, I haven't. 749 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,458 Let's give that a go, shall we? 750 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:10,167 -PAUL: Let's do it. -JACK: All right. 751 00:29:10,292 --> 00:29:12,000 All right. Let's clear out our gear. 752 00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:14,875 All right, we got a live charge here, guys. 753 00:29:15,042 --> 00:29:16,500 -PAUL: All right. -JACK: Let's go. 754 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,333 PAUL: Let's go. We're ready to roll. 755 00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:20,375 What's the plan here, sir? 756 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,250 -One, then two? -One's first. 757 00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:24,917 [horn blaring] 758 00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,375 -You ready? -Yeah, brother, you kidding? 759 00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:29,375 ANDY: Safety up. 760 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,500 -Get in position. -This is gonna be the big one. 761 00:29:32,625 --> 00:29:34,667 ANDY: Yeah, with the wind trying to blow us off here. 762 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,042 PAUL: I know. It's gonna be crazy. 763 00:29:36,167 --> 00:29:41,583 JACK: Five, four, three, two, one. 764 00:29:41,708 --> 00:29:43,125 Fire in the hole. 765 00:29:44,375 --> 00:29:46,458 [charge explodes] 766 00:29:46,542 --> 00:29:48,875 ALL: Wow. 767 00:29:51,625 --> 00:29:53,167 JACK: Shot fired successfully. 768 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:59,833 -ANDY: Look at this wind. -PAUL: Wow. 769 00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,958 That storm is here. We are officially out of time. 770 00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:03,292 -You ready? -I'm ready. 771 00:30:05,292 --> 00:30:08,792 Stand by for shot number two. Take good cover, all right? 772 00:30:08,917 --> 00:30:10,542 Y'all ready for a countdown? 773 00:30:10,708 --> 00:30:12,167 -ANDY: Ready. -PAUL: Let's do this. 774 00:30:14,083 --> 00:30:19,458 JACK: Five, four, three, two, one. 775 00:30:19,583 --> 00:30:20,792 Fire in the hole. 776 00:30:23,458 --> 00:30:25,042 [charge explodes] 777 00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,333 -Whoa. -ANDY: Whoa. 778 00:30:29,417 --> 00:30:32,000 PAUL: Wow. That was something else. 779 00:30:32,083 --> 00:30:33,458 -CARL: Beautiful. -That looked like a good hit. 780 00:30:33,583 --> 00:30:35,000 We gotta get out there, right? 781 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,083 Storm's worse. Let's have a look. 782 00:30:37,208 --> 00:30:38,500 -We gotta go. -PAUL: Go ahead, man. 783 00:30:38,583 --> 00:30:40,167 Go. Go. 784 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:42,208 JACK: Looking forward to seeing what we did. 785 00:30:47,833 --> 00:30:49,917 -Wow. -Look at this size of this. 786 00:30:50,042 --> 00:30:52,208 -Look at that boulder in there. -PAUL: Take a look at that. 787 00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,000 JACK: Did you see this ledge underneath? 788 00:30:54,125 --> 00:30:55,625 -ANDY: Yep. -Paul, you see what I'm saying? 789 00:30:55,708 --> 00:30:57,333 -PAUL: Yep. -JACK: Is that a hole? 790 00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,042 That looks like the opening to something. 791 00:30:59,208 --> 00:31:01,000 -PAUL: That big boulder. -That looks like a pocket 792 00:31:01,125 --> 00:31:02,917 -blocking something. -PAUL: Yeah. 793 00:31:03,042 --> 00:31:04,667 JACK: I think there's something behind that rock. 794 00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:06,042 That's what I think. 795 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:09,958 -Careful of those boulders, man. -JACK: Are you guys ready? 796 00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:14,375 PAUL: Okay. 797 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,375 Oh, wow, guys. 798 00:31:19,542 --> 00:31:23,167 So, there's more loose soil back there, but it goes back. 799 00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:24,958 -Give me the probe. -CARL: There you go. 800 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,375 PAUL: Look at that. 801 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,042 JEFF: That goes in there pretty good. 802 00:31:30,167 --> 00:31:31,750 PAUL: It's just loose stuff in there. 803 00:31:31,875 --> 00:31:33,625 -See? Look at that. -ANDY: You're a good 804 00:31:33,708 --> 00:31:35,500 four feet in there, yeah. 805 00:31:37,042 --> 00:31:39,625 Oh, the storm's not gonna give us a chance to get in today. 806 00:31:42,208 --> 00:31:44,667 PAUL: I'm dying to know what's right behind the boulder, 807 00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:47,208 but we just don't have the ability to get down there. 808 00:31:47,375 --> 00:31:49,167 We're gonna have to leave this for now. 809 00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,083 We don't have any more time. We gotta check number two. 810 00:31:51,208 --> 00:31:52,917 -JACK: Frustrating. -Yeah. 811 00:31:53,042 --> 00:31:54,417 CARL: But very compelling at the same time. 812 00:31:56,708 --> 00:31:58,083 PAUL: Okay. All right. 813 00:31:58,208 --> 00:31:59,542 -Let's check number two. -ANDY: Number two. 814 00:32:00,542 --> 00:32:01,750 JEFF: There's the hole right up ahead. 815 00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:03,125 PAUL: Yep. Right ahead. 816 00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,500 -CARL: Hole two. -JACK: Oh, man. 817 00:32:06,583 --> 00:32:08,000 -Wow. -CARL: We got here. 818 00:32:08,083 --> 00:32:11,333 JACK: Wow. We just gouged it down deeper. 819 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,333 I think we got past our sawdust problem. 820 00:32:14,417 --> 00:32:15,833 Yeah. For sure. Yep. 821 00:32:15,917 --> 00:32:17,542 JACK: That is just like a crater. 822 00:32:17,708 --> 00:32:19,458 Tell you what though. It really did get cleared out. 823 00:32:19,583 --> 00:32:21,083 ANDY: It did. 824 00:32:21,208 --> 00:32:22,250 CARL: Let's just hope that bottom's loose. 825 00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:24,542 -Careful boss. -ANDY: Got it. 826 00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:26,208 -JACK: Pretty soft there still. -ANDY: Whoa, whoa, whoa. 827 00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:27,833 -JACK: Careful. -Thank you. 828 00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:29,333 JACK: That's right. That's our-- 829 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,750 ANDY: Unstable ledge. 830 00:32:30,875 --> 00:32:32,542 -PAUL: Yeah. -CARL: Watch it. 831 00:32:35,375 --> 00:32:37,708 -ANDY: Paul? -Yeah, what do you think, man? 832 00:32:37,875 --> 00:32:40,875 ANDY: We got some softness in this area. 833 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,667 I can feel it under here. 834 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,708 We're just compacting it more. 835 00:32:47,958 --> 00:32:49,333 All right. 836 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,792 [sighs] Where does this leave us, man? 837 00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:54,250 Ah. Frustrated. 838 00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:56,500 The data told us there were voids. 839 00:32:56,667 --> 00:33:00,000 Someone used this void to get deeper underground. 840 00:33:00,167 --> 00:33:01,667 -ANDY: Filled it in. -PAUL: But for what? 841 00:33:01,833 --> 00:33:03,250 And then filled it back in. 842 00:33:03,375 --> 00:33:06,167 The potential for an underground tunnel, 843 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,167 a large antechamber that connects 844 00:33:08,292 --> 00:33:10,917 these two holes together, the potential's still there. 845 00:33:11,042 --> 00:33:12,708 We haven't been able to rule it out at all. 846 00:33:12,833 --> 00:33:14,875 -Yeah. -When I put it all together, 847 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,167 it blows my mind that there is an energy source 848 00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:19,667 of some sort emitting constant energy 849 00:33:19,833 --> 00:33:21,083 in the lower Meadow. 850 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:22,875 And then, we come out here to our 851 00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:25,458 two best opportunities to get underground 852 00:33:25,542 --> 00:33:27,750 and we've been able to get close, but not-- 853 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,292 not close enough to get in. 854 00:33:29,417 --> 00:33:31,542 This is it. This is as far as we can go 855 00:33:31,708 --> 00:33:33,167 with what we've got today 856 00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:35,000 and with these kind of conditions. 857 00:33:35,125 --> 00:33:36,708 We've come at this every way we can. 858 00:33:36,875 --> 00:33:38,500 We've been all over it on foot, 859 00:33:38,625 --> 00:33:41,167 we've flown drones in the air above it, 860 00:33:41,292 --> 00:33:43,167 we've blown holes to get underground 861 00:33:43,292 --> 00:33:45,167 to get as far as we possibly can. 862 00:33:45,292 --> 00:33:46,750 I don't know how else to say it. 863 00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:48,375 Mount Wilson Ranch is keeping a secret. 864 00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,333 All the evidence that we have gathered 865 00:33:50,458 --> 00:33:54,292 points to there is some kind of energy source underground 866 00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:57,625 and that we are as close maybe as anyone has ever been 867 00:33:57,708 --> 00:33:59,000 to figuring out what it is. 868 00:33:59,125 --> 00:34:00,833 This is just the beginning. 869 00:34:00,958 --> 00:34:02,875 -Yeah. -ANDY: We've opened the door. 870 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,417 Nothing's been closed. 871 00:34:05,625 --> 00:34:07,417 PAUL: All right, man. Let's get you up out of there. 872 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,042 ERIK: Well, gentlemen, welcome back. 873 00:34:18,208 --> 00:34:19,417 -Good to be back. -We wanna hear 874 00:34:19,542 --> 00:34:20,708 about your experience at Mount Wilson. 875 00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:22,542 I cannot believe... 876 00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:24,500 -PAUL: Seriously. -...how crazy this place is. 877 00:34:24,583 --> 00:34:26,167 Well, I feel like we're lucky to be back. 878 00:34:26,333 --> 00:34:27,875 That we're not just snowed in up there 879 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,333 because there was a blizzard. 880 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:30,750 -TRAVIS: Really? -PAUL: Flat out. 881 00:34:30,875 --> 00:34:32,042 Didn't shut us down entirely, 882 00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:34,042 but we had a lot more work to do 883 00:34:34,167 --> 00:34:35,167 and there was no way. 884 00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:37,292 We had to basically retreat. 885 00:34:37,417 --> 00:34:39,000 ANDY: And the ranch owner actually made a point 886 00:34:39,083 --> 00:34:41,958 to tell us how outside of normal the storm was. 887 00:34:42,042 --> 00:34:44,542 The intensity, the amount of snow, the cold. 888 00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:47,042 Now as you recall, we went to this location 889 00:34:47,167 --> 00:34:49,208 specifically following a Bigelow lead 890 00:34:49,375 --> 00:34:51,167 about a potential underground UFO. 891 00:34:51,292 --> 00:34:53,042 -TRAVIS: Yeah. -ANDY: And we were able 892 00:34:53,167 --> 00:34:55,667 to confirm and find a number of correlative data sets 893 00:34:55,792 --> 00:34:59,000 that align with what you've had here on Skinwalker Ranch. 894 00:34:59,083 --> 00:35:01,167 We started with a very comprehensive 895 00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:02,833 magnetometer survey. 896 00:35:02,958 --> 00:35:04,750 We called in a set of professionals 897 00:35:04,875 --> 00:35:05,917 called Terra Exploration Group. 898 00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:07,542 They had a custom-built drone 899 00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:09,292 that was built for carrying a magnetometer. 900 00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:11,000 TRAVIS: Sounds perfect. 901 00:35:11,167 --> 00:35:12,500 And with the Terra team, we had some locations 902 00:35:12,625 --> 00:35:14,250 that we were gonna target, right? 903 00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:16,500 So, we knew where we wanted to focus our energies. 904 00:35:16,625 --> 00:35:19,333 The lower meadow and the mine area. 905 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,375 ANDY: So we've been very focused on the mine area, 906 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,208 which is where we saw these potential entrances 907 00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:26,333 into the tunnels that we suspected in the area. 908 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,042 So with both mine one and mine two, 909 00:35:29,167 --> 00:35:31,250 we actually turned to blasting. 910 00:35:31,375 --> 00:35:33,333 We actually started using shaped charges 911 00:35:33,417 --> 00:35:35,500 to blast both mines. 912 00:35:35,625 --> 00:35:37,333 TRAVIS: In the middle of a snowstorm? 913 00:35:37,458 --> 00:35:39,458 -ERIK: Was it snowing in it? -TRAVIS: How did that go? 914 00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:41,000 ANDY: We could not get deep enough, 915 00:35:41,125 --> 00:35:42,708 but with all of our blasting 916 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:44,917 and all of our excavating, mine one looks like 917 00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:46,500 it was the older of the two mines, 918 00:35:46,625 --> 00:35:48,250 potentially the less interesting mine, 919 00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:50,208 'cause it looks like it was naturally filled. 920 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,458 Mine two gave us a lot of pause 921 00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:55,375 because it looked like it was intentionally filled. 922 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:57,667 -Okay. -ANDY: And our question became, 923 00:35:57,792 --> 00:36:01,875 why would anyone take the time to fill a hole? 924 00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:03,417 If it was a non-productive mine? 925 00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:04,833 PAUL: You would just leave it. 926 00:36:04,958 --> 00:36:06,375 And who filled it in? 927 00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:07,875 -PAUL: Who and why? -Did Bigelow do it? 928 00:36:08,042 --> 00:36:09,292 Or was it done 100 years ago? 929 00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:10,792 -1,000 ago? -PAUL: Right. 930 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,208 ANDY: Now, all of this, like I said, 931 00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:15,125 is at the mines themselves. 932 00:36:15,208 --> 00:36:17,333 But the same land mass actually flows down 933 00:36:17,458 --> 00:36:19,208 to something called the lower meadow. 934 00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:21,250 And then we took it to the magnetometer, 935 00:36:21,375 --> 00:36:22,750 and this is what our magnetometer showed us. 936 00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:24,500 ERIK: Oh, look at that. 937 00:36:24,625 --> 00:36:27,833 ANDY: This square area here, this is the Lower Meadow. 938 00:36:27,917 --> 00:36:30,083 That's clearly artificial. 939 00:36:30,208 --> 00:36:31,542 That looks like a phased array. 940 00:36:31,708 --> 00:36:33,208 Sure does. 941 00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:35,000 Looks like a phased array antenna system 942 00:36:35,083 --> 00:36:36,458 built under the ground. 943 00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:38,375 You see where I'm going with this, Erik? 944 00:36:38,542 --> 00:36:42,833 We've heard rumors that certain low frequencies 945 00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:47,417 in that range could be used to not only detect UAPs, 946 00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:49,583 but possibly even take them down. 947 00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:51,875 But I never knew 'em to bury them. 948 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,667 They were always on-- on the surface. 949 00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:55,583 ERIK: Like, a low frequency beam of some kind? 950 00:36:55,708 --> 00:36:57,375 TRAVIS: Well, just a phase array radar. 951 00:36:57,542 --> 00:36:59,333 The rumors that array is actually a radar 952 00:36:59,458 --> 00:37:01,958 that brought down the Roswell thing, 953 00:37:02,042 --> 00:37:03,500 assuming it was real. 954 00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:05,500 I don't have any evidence one way or the other. 955 00:37:05,625 --> 00:37:07,458 But my point is, that's just another one of the stories 956 00:37:07,542 --> 00:37:09,167 we've heard that kinda fits in the-- 957 00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:10,917 in the why Bigelow would've been interested. 958 00:37:11,042 --> 00:37:12,750 -Right. Right. -But if he-- 959 00:37:12,875 --> 00:37:15,125 if Bigelow would've found that, he would've stayed. 960 00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:17,333 -That's what I thought too. -Yeah. 961 00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:20,167 Unless somebody told him to get, you know, to get out. 962 00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:22,250 PAUL: I mean, it makes me wonder now. 963 00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:24,333 I mean, I hadn't thought about it this way. 964 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,250 What test did he carry out in the lower meadows specifically 965 00:37:26,375 --> 00:37:28,250 since that's where we got such intense-- 966 00:37:28,375 --> 00:37:30,083 -intensely strange readings. -ANDY: Right. 967 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:32,833 It's hard for me to believe that he would sell this ranch 968 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,833 if he found this type of data. 969 00:37:34,917 --> 00:37:35,875 Yeah. 970 00:37:37,417 --> 00:37:39,792 Another thing that was strange is that we actually-- 971 00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:42,333 Another unique instance when we were there, 972 00:37:42,417 --> 00:37:45,792 in the mining area, the GPS data in our drone 973 00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:48,542 became so confused that the drone actually ended up 974 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:50,875 fighting itself and crash landing. 975 00:37:51,042 --> 00:37:54,167 TRAVIS: That's no-- We've had that happen hundreds of times. 976 00:37:54,292 --> 00:37:55,333 It's interesting that it's happening like this 977 00:37:55,458 --> 00:37:57,083 somewhere else. 978 00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,833 We also were able to do some post analysis 979 00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:00,500 on the GPS anomalies 980 00:38:00,583 --> 00:38:02,083 that actually ended up bringing down our drone. 981 00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,417 -Oh. -ERIK: That's very interest. 982 00:38:04,542 --> 00:38:05,750 -TRAVIS: Very interesting. Yes. -And at first 983 00:38:05,875 --> 00:38:07,292 we thought that we might just dismiss 984 00:38:07,375 --> 00:38:09,250 the GPS data as corrupt 985 00:38:09,375 --> 00:38:11,333 until we actually looked at it. 986 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:13,375 And then when we actually looked at it to see 987 00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,000 does it correlate to anything, 988 00:38:15,125 --> 00:38:19,167 the errant GPS data in our drone 989 00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:20,875 correlates to this red line 990 00:38:21,042 --> 00:38:22,875 in each of these yellow placements 991 00:38:23,042 --> 00:38:25,167 that connect the corner of Cuba 992 00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:27,167 up to the corner of the Bermuda Triangle. 993 00:38:27,292 --> 00:38:29,042 -TRAVIS: Wow. -That's where our drone 994 00:38:29,167 --> 00:38:30,458 thought it was going. 995 00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:32,250 I mean, we've seen anomalies 996 00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:33,542 that were 60 something miles away. 997 00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:35,875 -Yes. -But this is 1,000 miles. 998 00:38:36,042 --> 00:38:37,333 ERIK: 1,000 miles away. 999 00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:39,250 TRAVIS: None of our data points to Cuba. 1000 00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:40,542 It's disturbing to me. 1001 00:38:41,542 --> 00:38:43,250 -Yeah. -ANDY: We knew we're on the edge 1002 00:38:43,375 --> 00:38:45,333 of the Nevada Test Site 1003 00:38:45,458 --> 00:38:47,583 and it literally seemed like what happened 1004 00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:49,875 is that the drone had crossed some sort of barrier. 1005 00:38:50,042 --> 00:38:51,667 It had hit something 1006 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:54,167 that intentionally seemed to misguide it. 1007 00:38:54,250 --> 00:38:55,625 And you watched it come down with your eyes? 1008 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:57,875 Absolutely. What struck me about this 1009 00:38:58,042 --> 00:39:01,583 is that it's very clean, but inaccurate data. 1010 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:03,458 -It's not garbled. -ERIK: Yeah. 1011 00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:05,542 My training at CIA 1012 00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:09,000 immediately made me think that this wasn't corrupted data, 1013 00:39:09,083 --> 00:39:11,000 it was intentionally made errant. 1014 00:39:11,125 --> 00:39:12,333 -Yes. -What we would call spoofed. 1015 00:39:12,458 --> 00:39:15,750 -Yes. -This is highly suspicious 1016 00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:20,125 of spoofing to me and to what end and why there? 1017 00:39:20,208 --> 00:39:21,667 I mean, if you're gonna spoof something, 1018 00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:23,500 you don't put something nonsensical into it. 1019 00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:26,208 You put something that's believable, right? 1020 00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:27,667 -Right. -This means something. 1021 00:39:27,792 --> 00:39:29,500 It implies something deliberate. 1022 00:39:29,625 --> 00:39:31,250 TRAVIS: It absolutely does, Erik. 1023 00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:32,833 ANDY: It sounds like what you're saying is 1024 00:39:32,917 --> 00:39:34,500 this could potentially not be a spoof at all. 1025 00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:36,000 It could be some sort of communication effort? 1026 00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:39,333 Yeah. This is jumping out at us. 1027 00:39:39,458 --> 00:39:41,708 It's a calling card. It's a message. 1028 00:39:41,875 --> 00:39:46,625 It's saying something about that location in Nevada 1029 00:39:46,708 --> 00:39:49,625 and these locations in the Gulf of Mexico. 1030 00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:53,500 I am surprised. I'm not-- I was not-- 1031 00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:55,000 I was not expecting this at all. 1032 00:39:55,083 --> 00:39:56,375 No, I wasn't expecting this. 1033 00:39:56,542 --> 00:39:58,292 I didn't know what to expect, honestly, 1034 00:39:58,375 --> 00:40:00,000 but I'll tell you, this really invites follow-up. 1035 00:40:00,083 --> 00:40:01,667 Yeah, especially the lower meadow where Bigelow 1036 00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:03,500 had carried out his investigations, 1037 00:40:03,625 --> 00:40:05,458 that's where we wanted to focus more of our efforts. 1038 00:40:05,583 --> 00:40:07,583 I'd really like to know if Jeff would be receptive 1039 00:40:07,708 --> 00:40:10,750 to leaving data logging instruments 1040 00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:12,542 on a long-term basis in this location. 1041 00:40:12,667 --> 00:40:14,375 ANDY: I think he absolutely would. 1042 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:17,375 -We could potentially connect... -Pull a cable. 1043 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,083 ...that site for study here. 1044 00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:22,000 -TRAVIS: Yes. -And you know 1045 00:40:22,167 --> 00:40:23,917 what's even cooler about that? 1046 00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:26,583 Now, not only is it connected potentially 1047 00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,500 through whatever the phenomena is, 1048 00:40:28,625 --> 00:40:30,292 we're actually putting a hard line connection 1049 00:40:30,417 --> 00:40:32,333 -between the two ranches. -Oh, wow. 1050 00:40:32,458 --> 00:40:35,167 And then now that in-- Sort of doubles down 1051 00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:36,542 on whatever's going on there. 1052 00:40:36,708 --> 00:40:39,125 The power of correlative data. 1053 00:40:39,208 --> 00:40:40,750 Right, I mean, I was not expecting 1054 00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:42,667 to come back with a report like this. 1055 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:44,167 TRAVIS: You guys did a thorough job 1056 00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:45,750 in the amount of time you had 1057 00:40:45,875 --> 00:40:47,708 and I imagine, kinda the way you guys were 1058 00:40:47,875 --> 00:40:50,042 once all that four feet of snow hit, 1059 00:40:50,167 --> 00:40:52,500 I mean, what are you gonna do in that, nothing, you know? 1060 00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:53,750 Travis, listening to Paul and Andy, 1061 00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:55,458 you and I shouldn't complain. 1062 00:40:55,542 --> 00:40:58,042 We haven't dealt with four feet of snow. 1063 00:40:58,167 --> 00:41:00,583 You guys deal with the heat and we deal with the snow. 1064 00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:02,500 Maybe at some point, we'll have to flop our seasons around. 1065 00:41:02,625 --> 00:41:05,458 And I gotta tell you, if you guys continue 1066 00:41:05,542 --> 00:41:07,375 to find things like this, we're not gonna have 1067 00:41:07,542 --> 00:41:09,667 enough time in the day to-- to investigate all this. 1068 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:11,583 -This is fantastic. -PAUL: Well, thanks. 1069 00:41:11,708 --> 00:41:13,833 I feel like this was, yeah, this was a productive one. 1070 00:41:13,917 --> 00:41:16,500 -I really-- I-- Like I said-- -I wanna go there now. 1071 00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:17,833 -Yeah. -Yeah, We're gonna reach out 1072 00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:19,708 to the same teams that we worked with, 1073 00:41:19,833 --> 00:41:21,542 -get their raw data. -Yeah. We'll pull some more. 1074 00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,333 And then we're back here in just a few days 1075 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,958 to set up the next trip with you guys. 1076 00:41:25,042 --> 00:41:26,667 I think collectively we owe it to ourselves 1077 00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,292 -to do that follow up. -ALL: Yeah. 1078 00:41:28,375 --> 00:41:29,833 -Yeah. Thank you so much. -ANDY: Great. 1079 00:41:29,958 --> 00:41:31,417 -Well, thank you guys. -TRAVIS: Thanks. 1080 00:41:31,542 --> 00:41:32,667 -Excellent. -Absolutely, man. 1081 00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:34,500 That was awesome. Thanks. 1082 00:41:34,583 --> 00:41:36,292 ERIK: All right, gents. We'll see you soon. 1083 00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:38,542 TRAVIS: All right. See you. Can't wait 'til the next time.