1 00:00:02,208 --> 00:00:03,500 MOCEAN MELVIN: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch-- 2 00:00:03,583 --> 00:00:05,417 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: There really is something 3 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:08,917 about this area that points to all the same telltale signs 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,125 of a portal. 5 00:00:11,125 --> 00:00:12,333 You've never seen this before? 6 00:00:12,417 --> 00:00:13,917 Never seen it like that before. 7 00:00:14,042 --> 00:00:15,042 That is a massive-- 8 00:00:15,125 --> 00:00:15,958 Look at that thing. 9 00:00:15,958 --> 00:00:17,000 --massive rocket. 10 00:00:17,083 --> 00:00:18,458 That is taller than you, Allen. 11 00:00:18,542 --> 00:00:24,333 4, 3, 2, 1. 12 00:00:24,417 --> 00:00:25,792 Oh! 13 00:00:25,792 --> 00:00:29,083 [rocket whooshing] 14 00:00:29,167 --> 00:00:30,792 MOCEAN MELVIN: For years, scientists 15 00:00:30,875 --> 00:00:35,125 have been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 16 00:00:35,208 --> 00:00:37,333 But is it possible that the clues 17 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:40,083 to unlock the mystery are located 18 00:00:40,208 --> 00:00:43,833 beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 19 00:00:43,917 --> 00:00:45,625 Wow! 20 00:00:45,708 --> 00:00:48,458 MOCEAN MELVIN: Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 21 00:00:48,542 --> 00:00:50,875 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 22 00:00:50,958 --> 00:00:52,708 to go on a high stakes mission across America. 23 00:00:52,792 --> 00:00:55,167 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look at all this activity that's happening. 24 00:00:55,250 --> 00:00:56,583 PAUL BEBAN: That's unbelievable. 25 00:00:56,667 --> 00:00:57,875 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That is right over our heads. 26 00:00:57,958 --> 00:00:59,333 That's it! That's it right there! 27 00:00:59,375 --> 00:01:00,375 MOCEAN MELVIN: The goal-- uncover evidence that 28 00:01:00,458 --> 00:01:02,125 may finally expose the truth. 29 00:01:02,208 --> 00:01:03,500 MAN 1: How is this happening? 30 00:01:03,625 --> 00:01:05,000 MAN 2: Now it's going to get interesting. 31 00:01:05,042 --> 00:01:06,083 MAN 3: Look, it's moving! 32 00:01:06,167 --> 00:01:06,875 Look at that! 33 00:01:06,958 --> 00:01:09,500 [screaming] 34 00:01:09,542 --> 00:01:10,833 MAN 4: This is just the beginning. 35 00:01:10,917 --> 00:01:14,292 [music playing] 36 00:01:15,833 --> 00:01:17,458 ERIK BARD: Paul and Andy, tell us what you got for us. 37 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:19,167 Well, I think what we want to do 38 00:01:19,250 --> 00:01:22,625 is talk to you about why we want to go back to someplace 39 00:01:22,708 --> 00:01:24,000 we found so interesting. 40 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:25,958 And you may recall Rocky Mountain Ranch. 41 00:01:26,042 --> 00:01:27,417 Oh, yeah. PAUL BEBAN: Yeah? 42 00:01:27,542 --> 00:01:29,417 Rocky Mountain Ranch first came across our radar 43 00:01:29,542 --> 00:01:31,417 when we were reading the book Hunt for the Skinwalker. 44 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:32,292 ERIK BARD: Yes. 45 00:01:33,250 --> 00:01:34,208 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Inside that book, 46 00:01:34,333 --> 00:01:35,333 there's a ranch referenced in Colorado, 47 00:01:35,458 --> 00:01:36,833 but the ranch is anonymized in the book. 48 00:01:36,875 --> 00:01:39,292 We were able to actually uncover the true location of it 49 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:42,042 and connect it back to researcher, Katie Paige, who was 50 00:01:42,167 --> 00:01:44,125 actually a child on that ranch. 51 00:01:44,208 --> 00:01:45,792 And a big part of her experience there 52 00:01:45,792 --> 00:01:48,833 is what led her to become a well respected UFO researcher. 53 00:01:48,958 --> 00:01:51,667 Now, we went there and we took Katie back to the ranch 54 00:01:51,750 --> 00:01:53,750 the first time in 40 years? 55 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:54,625 - 40 years-- - Wow. 56 00:01:54,708 --> 00:01:56,375 --at least. 57 00:01:56,500 --> 00:02:00,167 There was just such an abundance of data that came out of this. 58 00:02:00,208 --> 00:02:03,167 We have a lot of jumping off points to go back to. 59 00:02:03,292 --> 00:02:05,667 MOCEAN MELVIN: During the 2023 investigation, 60 00:02:05,708 --> 00:02:09,167 while exploring an area on Rocky Mountain Ranch that has been 61 00:02:09,208 --> 00:02:12,167 a hotspot of activity, Andy and the current owners 62 00:02:12,208 --> 00:02:15,208 heard the strange humming sound that Katie reported 63 00:02:15,292 --> 00:02:17,250 hearing as a young girl. 64 00:02:17,375 --> 00:02:19,667 WOMAN: What is that noise? 65 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:22,125 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That doesn't sound like a plane or a drone. 66 00:02:22,208 --> 00:02:23,875 That's a pitched hum. 67 00:02:23,958 --> 00:02:28,208 MOCEAN MELVIN: This led the team to conduct rocket tests. 68 00:02:28,333 --> 00:02:32,208 Something caused the first rocket to go wildly off course 69 00:02:32,292 --> 00:02:34,167 from its normal flight path. 70 00:02:34,292 --> 00:02:35,542 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Greg, is that it? 71 00:02:35,625 --> 00:02:36,667 Is that it? GREG: Yeah, there it is. 72 00:02:36,750 --> 00:02:37,667 Holy [bleep]. 73 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:38,625 What's it doing over here? 74 00:02:38,708 --> 00:02:39,958 GREG: Wow. 75 00:02:40,042 --> 00:02:41,458 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: This is way off course. 76 00:02:41,542 --> 00:02:43,292 MOCEAN MELVIN: The second rocket failed in mid-air. 77 00:02:43,375 --> 00:02:45,417 [rocket whooshing] 78 00:02:45,542 --> 00:02:47,667 The team speculated that this might 79 00:02:47,708 --> 00:02:51,250 have been caused by passing through an aerial anomaly. 80 00:02:51,333 --> 00:02:53,042 MAN 5: It's like it hit a wall up there. 81 00:02:53,125 --> 00:02:53,958 MAN 6: She's dropping. 82 00:02:54,042 --> 00:02:56,500 [music playing] 83 00:02:57,792 --> 00:02:59,000 TRAVIS TAYLOR: And this thing tumbled? 84 00:02:59,125 --> 00:03:00,667 - Yes. - Like it hit something, yeah. 85 00:03:00,750 --> 00:03:01,708 ERIK BARD: Yes. 86 00:03:01,792 --> 00:03:02,875 There was a noticeable bump. 87 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,542 Of all the findings from that site, 88 00:03:04,625 --> 00:03:07,375 which did you consider to be the ones that 89 00:03:07,458 --> 00:03:08,917 warranted the most follow up? 90 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,375 Our goal is to dig into three different locations. 91 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:13,708 Those locations are what we call the tree line 92 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:15,583 to the northern side of the property, 93 00:03:15,708 --> 00:03:18,625 the location where our rocket actually fell out of the sky-- 94 00:03:18,708 --> 00:03:20,583 that's the second location we want to explore. 95 00:03:20,708 --> 00:03:24,292 And then the cistern, the area where we first heard that hum. 96 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:25,958 That's a heck of a list. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yeah. 97 00:03:26,083 --> 00:03:27,417 PAUL BEBAN: Absolutely. All right. 98 00:03:27,417 --> 00:03:28,667 All right, guys. Well, good luck. 99 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:29,542 Thanks. 100 00:03:29,625 --> 00:03:30,833 Thank you. 101 00:03:30,917 --> 00:03:32,042 TRAVIS TAYLOR: We'll see you when you get back. 102 00:03:32,125 --> 00:03:32,958 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Appreciate it. 103 00:03:33,042 --> 00:03:34,833 [music playing] 104 00:03:36,375 --> 00:03:37,917 MOCEAN MELVIN: Due to the sensitive nature 105 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,625 of this investigation, the current owners of Rocky Mountain 106 00:03:40,708 --> 00:03:43,958 Ranch have asked for their names and location 107 00:03:44,042 --> 00:03:44,958 to be kept anonymous. 108 00:03:45,042 --> 00:03:48,542 [music playing] 109 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:51,500 PAUL BEBAN: I'm really excited to be coming 110 00:03:51,583 --> 00:03:53,333 back to Rocky Mountain Ranch. 111 00:03:53,417 --> 00:03:55,292 I mean, our first investigation here totally 112 00:03:55,375 --> 00:03:56,458 blew me out of the water. 113 00:03:56,542 --> 00:03:58,000 Yeah. 114 00:03:58,042 --> 00:04:00,250 For all the data we collected, we barely scratched the surface. 115 00:04:00,333 --> 00:04:02,083 And the remote viewers are just one example. 116 00:04:02,208 --> 00:04:03,667 MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy and Paul want 117 00:04:03,750 --> 00:04:06,417 to revisit data collected during their first investigation 118 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:08,333 at Rocky Mountain Ranch. 119 00:04:08,375 --> 00:04:10,833 They worked with a former US Army Special 120 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:14,250 Operations officer, David Morehouse, an expert 121 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:15,750 in remote viewing. 122 00:04:15,833 --> 00:04:19,167 We assembled 70 remote viewers from 123 00:04:19,208 --> 00:04:24,458 six different countries that produced over 3,000 data points. 124 00:04:24,542 --> 00:04:26,458 MOCEAN MELVIN: This controversial surveillance 125 00:04:26,542 --> 00:04:31,167 technique was first developed in 1972 by the US defense 126 00:04:31,250 --> 00:04:34,833 intelligence agency, and used since the Cold War 127 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:36,250 to spy on enemies. 128 00:04:36,375 --> 00:04:38,542 Andy and Paul believe this data may 129 00:04:38,625 --> 00:04:43,042 help to provide more insight into the anomalies at the ranch. 130 00:04:43,125 --> 00:04:44,500 I think this is a great opportunity 131 00:04:44,583 --> 00:04:46,375 to dig deeper into those targets and see what 132 00:04:46,458 --> 00:04:48,208 we might be able to understand about what's 133 00:04:48,292 --> 00:04:50,167 going on at this place. 134 00:04:50,208 --> 00:04:51,833 We have a lot of work ahead of us, 135 00:04:51,917 --> 00:04:54,333 and I think what we can do here is you should go to the ranch 136 00:04:54,417 --> 00:04:55,750 and talk to Katie. 137 00:04:55,875 --> 00:04:57,375 And then I'll start with David Morehouse 138 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:59,125 and try to get some more information about how we can 139 00:04:59,208 --> 00:05:02,542 really make the best use of this massive amount of information 140 00:05:02,667 --> 00:05:04,792 that the remote viewers have drawn up for us. 141 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:07,208 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: All right, man, this looks like your stop. 142 00:05:07,292 --> 00:05:08,667 PAUL BEBAN: Perfect. 143 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:09,708 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Good luck with Dr. Morehouse. 144 00:05:09,792 --> 00:05:10,875 Thank you. 145 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:12,250 Say hi to Katie, and I'll see you soon. 146 00:05:12,333 --> 00:05:13,125 You got it. All right, buddy. 147 00:05:13,208 --> 00:05:16,542 [music playing] 148 00:05:19,875 --> 00:05:22,625 David, it's so exciting to be working with you again. 149 00:05:22,708 --> 00:05:25,583 I feel like we learn so much from you last time. 150 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:27,167 I'm really excited to have you back. 151 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:28,833 Thanks, Paul. 152 00:05:28,917 --> 00:05:30,750 MOCEAN MELVIN: David Morehouse was one of the first trainees 153 00:05:30,833 --> 00:05:34,917 in the government remote viewing program called Project Stargate. 154 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,375 Over the past few decades, he has trained over 23,000 students 155 00:05:39,458 --> 00:05:41,750 in 16 different countries. 156 00:05:41,833 --> 00:05:44,875 Just remind us, what exactly is remote viewing? 157 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,292 How does it work? 158 00:05:46,375 --> 00:05:47,958 The best sound bite I ever heard for that-- 159 00:05:48,042 --> 00:05:50,542 or the best description that was an elevator pitch for it-- 160 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:54,500 was allegedly put together by Admiral Stansfield 161 00:05:54,542 --> 00:05:56,958 Turner when he was the director of the Central 162 00:05:56,958 --> 00:05:58,458 Intelligence Agency. 163 00:05:58,542 --> 00:06:02,208 He said that this is a learned ability 164 00:06:02,292 --> 00:06:04,708 to enter an altered state of consciousness, 165 00:06:04,792 --> 00:06:10,125 to transcend space and time, to view persons, places, events 166 00:06:10,208 --> 00:06:12,458 and things remote in space and time, 167 00:06:12,542 --> 00:06:14,375 and to gather and report intelligence 168 00:06:14,458 --> 00:06:15,875 information on the same. 169 00:06:15,958 --> 00:06:18,583 So remote viewing is just another tool 170 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:21,583 all in the investigative toolbox to try to get to the bottom 171 00:06:21,667 --> 00:06:22,875 of some of these mysteries? 172 00:06:22,958 --> 00:06:24,042 Absolutely. 173 00:06:24,125 --> 00:06:25,792 MOCEAN MELVIN: For this assignment, 174 00:06:25,875 --> 00:06:30,208 the remote viewers were given a target map faded to 3% opacity, 175 00:06:30,292 --> 00:06:35,042 keeping the location and topography of the ranch hidden. 176 00:06:35,125 --> 00:06:38,583 The team of psychics then drew pictures and wrote down 177 00:06:38,667 --> 00:06:42,750 what they sensed happened on the property over the past 50 years. 178 00:06:42,750 --> 00:06:45,792 The final results were collected by Dr. Morehouse 179 00:06:45,875 --> 00:06:49,833 and grouped together as data points on a map of the ranch. 180 00:06:49,917 --> 00:06:52,250 All of these blue orbs that you see 181 00:06:52,333 --> 00:06:53,833 here, those are plotted points. 182 00:06:53,875 --> 00:06:57,042 Now, they're not being represented three dimensionally, 183 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,500 but all of these points stack up. 184 00:06:59,583 --> 00:07:02,292 Are you saying that these dots are at different altitudes 185 00:07:02,375 --> 00:07:03,083 above the ranch? - Absolutely. 186 00:07:03,208 --> 00:07:04,542 OK. 187 00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:05,667 Because right away when I'm looking at this-- 188 00:07:05,750 --> 00:07:07,083 I mean, this cluster right here, this 189 00:07:07,167 --> 00:07:09,542 is where we had our big instrument rocket go down. 190 00:07:09,625 --> 00:07:10,833 DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah. 191 00:07:10,917 --> 00:07:13,375 Where we literally thought this thing 192 00:07:13,458 --> 00:07:15,208 hit something in space. 193 00:07:15,292 --> 00:07:18,375 And you're saying this is the cluster that is distributed 194 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:19,333 through that altitude? 195 00:07:19,375 --> 00:07:20,833 Right. 196 00:07:20,833 --> 00:07:22,667 This is an enhanced sketch of what they're 197 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:24,875 seeing at that sense point. 198 00:07:24,958 --> 00:07:29,708 18 viewers sketched versions of this in different ways. 199 00:07:29,708 --> 00:07:34,083 Not every viewer is necessarily a good artist or a good sketch, 200 00:07:34,167 --> 00:07:37,333 so that's why viewers are taught to probe and label the sketches. 201 00:07:37,375 --> 00:07:40,333 So the descriptors of this is that energy 202 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:44,667 is pouring out of one portal, down through another portal. 203 00:07:44,750 --> 00:07:48,750 And then it is spilling heavily out in the ranch 204 00:07:48,875 --> 00:07:49,917 and the surrounding area. 205 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,417 PAUL BEBAN: OK. 206 00:07:51,542 --> 00:07:54,958 And it was described as a wall of hardened energy, 207 00:07:55,042 --> 00:07:58,667 a downward flow of force that was spilling over the ranch 208 00:07:58,708 --> 00:08:00,417 and the surrounding area. 209 00:08:00,542 --> 00:08:02,000 PAUL BEBAN: When that rocket malfunctioned, 210 00:08:02,083 --> 00:08:04,292 I feel like one of us actually said it's 211 00:08:04,375 --> 00:08:06,000 like it hit a wall up there. 212 00:08:06,083 --> 00:08:07,333 I mean, that's remarkable. 213 00:08:07,417 --> 00:08:08,167 Yeah. 214 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:11,333 [music playing] 215 00:08:11,417 --> 00:08:12,792 MOCEAN MELVIN: While Paul continues 216 00:08:12,875 --> 00:08:15,625 to discuss the findings from the remote viewers, 217 00:08:15,708 --> 00:08:19,667 Andy meets with Katie Paige and current resident Nicole 218 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:22,083 to get briefed on new revelations 219 00:08:22,208 --> 00:08:24,458 since the last time they were on the ranch. 220 00:08:24,542 --> 00:08:28,125 [music playing] 221 00:08:28,208 --> 00:08:29,333 - Hey, Nicole. - Hey. 222 00:08:29,417 --> 00:08:30,667 How's it going? - It's good. 223 00:08:30,792 --> 00:08:32,042 It's good to see you again. - Yeah, you too. 224 00:08:32,167 --> 00:08:33,333 Welcome back. - Thank you. 225 00:08:33,417 --> 00:08:34,833 Hey, buddy. KATIE PAIGE: Hey. 226 00:08:34,875 --> 00:08:36,250 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Good to see you again, Katie. 227 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:37,208 KATIE PAIGE: Good to see you. - You remember Nicole? 228 00:08:37,333 --> 00:08:38,333 I do. Hi, Nicole. 229 00:08:38,375 --> 00:08:39,333 - Hey, Katie. - How are you? 230 00:08:39,375 --> 00:08:40,167 Thanks for having me back. 231 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:41,083 NICOLE: Of course. 232 00:08:41,208 --> 00:08:42,000 This is Oscar. 233 00:08:42,042 --> 00:08:43,542 KATIE PAIGE: Hi, Oscar. 234 00:08:43,625 --> 00:08:45,792 How does it feel for you coming back a second time? 235 00:08:45,875 --> 00:08:48,708 It feels OK in the daytime, but I still 236 00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:50,917 have those butterflies being back here. 237 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,792 MOCEAN MELVIN: As a nine-year-old girl, 238 00:08:52,875 --> 00:08:57,042 Katie Paige was terrorized by strange phenomena at the ranch. 239 00:08:57,125 --> 00:09:00,167 It was like this heavy feeling of just 240 00:09:00,250 --> 00:09:02,167 being uneasy, being watched. 241 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:04,708 MOCEAN MELVIN: One of her most traumatizing memories 242 00:09:04,833 --> 00:09:08,292 was when a strange, disembodied electronic voice 243 00:09:08,375 --> 00:09:09,833 threatened her family. 244 00:09:09,875 --> 00:09:11,750 KATIE PAIGE: And it basically stated, you know, 245 00:09:11,833 --> 00:09:14,000 we have allowed you to remain. 246 00:09:14,042 --> 00:09:18,167 Your friends will be instructed to remain silent concerning us. 247 00:09:18,208 --> 00:09:19,167 Concerning us? 248 00:09:19,208 --> 00:09:20,417 Concerning us. 249 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:21,750 That must have been terrifying. 250 00:09:21,833 --> 00:09:23,458 KATIE PAIGE: It was terrifying. 251 00:09:23,542 --> 00:09:26,292 But here I am, back here to face it because that's how I feel. 252 00:09:26,375 --> 00:09:29,250 I feel empowered as an adult now that I want to face 253 00:09:29,375 --> 00:09:30,833 whatever this is head on. 254 00:09:30,958 --> 00:09:32,500 Well, the last time we were here, 255 00:09:32,583 --> 00:09:33,833 one of the strangest things to happen 256 00:09:33,958 --> 00:09:35,542 was that a rocket actually crashed 257 00:09:35,667 --> 00:09:37,542 over my left shoulder here. 258 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:39,167 It did, right there. 259 00:09:39,292 --> 00:09:41,667 I have something that I need to tell you about that area 260 00:09:41,708 --> 00:09:45,208 where that rocket crashed. 261 00:09:45,292 --> 00:09:50,167 So my sister and I was on a typical spring Colorado day, 262 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:52,500 you know, with the sun shining a lot like today. 263 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:53,333 NICOLE: Come on. 264 00:09:53,417 --> 00:09:55,167 Come on, Osc. 265 00:09:55,208 --> 00:09:57,333 We already have him getting a little nervous coming up here. 266 00:09:57,375 --> 00:09:58,625 What's going on? 267 00:09:58,708 --> 00:10:00,000 He doesn't like coming up this hill. 268 00:10:00,042 --> 00:10:02,083 Oh, look at him. 269 00:10:02,083 --> 00:10:03,292 He has his tail down. 270 00:10:03,375 --> 00:10:04,667 Come on, Oscar. 271 00:10:04,708 --> 00:10:06,000 That's really interesting. 272 00:10:06,042 --> 00:10:07,667 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: He does not want to come. 273 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:08,458 Look at that. KATIE PAIGE: He does not. 274 00:10:08,542 --> 00:10:10,292 Look at that. 275 00:10:10,375 --> 00:10:11,083 Come on. 276 00:10:11,167 --> 00:10:11,958 It's OK. 277 00:10:12,042 --> 00:10:13,542 [music playing] 278 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:15,333 He just will not come up here. 279 00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:17,625 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: He just totally slipped out of his own leash. 280 00:10:17,708 --> 00:10:18,792 He's gone. 281 00:10:18,875 --> 00:10:19,667 Wow. 282 00:10:19,708 --> 00:10:21,167 NICOLE: Yeah. 283 00:10:21,208 --> 00:10:22,542 I never understood it, but it's just this area 284 00:10:22,625 --> 00:10:23,583 that you're taking us to. 285 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:25,333 He doesn't want to go there. 286 00:10:25,417 --> 00:10:26,208 Really? 287 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:27,167 Mm hm. 288 00:10:27,208 --> 00:10:28,333 Isn't that something. 289 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:29,583 Wow. 290 00:10:29,708 --> 00:10:31,875 So what happened here, Katie? 291 00:10:31,958 --> 00:10:33,583 KATIE PAIGE: It was a wet, heavy snow, 292 00:10:33,667 --> 00:10:35,375 a few inches on the ground. 293 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:41,000 And what was really strange is there was this very large, 294 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,875 dry dirt, snowless circle, as if something 295 00:10:45,958 --> 00:10:47,708 was sitting here or something. 296 00:10:47,792 --> 00:10:49,458 It was just so odd. 297 00:10:49,542 --> 00:10:52,667 And then fast forward decades later, when I finally acquired 298 00:10:52,708 --> 00:10:55,792 the APRO report as confirmation to the experiences 299 00:10:55,875 --> 00:10:57,250 that I remember having. 300 00:10:57,375 --> 00:11:00,500 MOCEAN MELVIN: Unknown to Katie, back in 1978, 301 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:04,333 a group known as the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, 302 00:11:04,417 --> 00:11:08,375 or APRO, also documented the strange events at the ranch 303 00:11:08,458 --> 00:11:11,833 around the same time she was living there as a young girl. 304 00:11:11,917 --> 00:11:15,083 And it actually says that the investigators saw 305 00:11:15,167 --> 00:11:18,167 the snowless circle, and that it was approximately 306 00:11:18,292 --> 00:11:20,167 75 feet in diameter. 307 00:11:20,250 --> 00:11:21,292 Really bizarre. 308 00:11:21,375 --> 00:11:22,417 Yeah, that's super strange. 309 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:23,875 And this is the area? 310 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,208 Yeah, it was right in this area in here. 311 00:11:27,292 --> 00:11:28,417 There's a cistern. 312 00:11:28,542 --> 00:11:30,833 So that rocket would have come down 313 00:11:30,917 --> 00:11:32,542 just somewhere right over here. - Yeah. 314 00:11:32,625 --> 00:11:34,292 Right. 315 00:11:34,375 --> 00:11:37,500 And it would have lost power almost right above this area. 316 00:11:37,583 --> 00:11:39,083 Wow. 317 00:11:39,208 --> 00:11:41,208 DAVID MOREHOUSE: Next, we're going to transition 318 00:11:41,292 --> 00:11:43,583 over into below surface. 319 00:11:43,583 --> 00:11:44,542 Look at this area here. 320 00:11:44,625 --> 00:11:46,042 Mm hm. 321 00:11:46,167 --> 00:11:47,208 In the tree line. DAVID MOREHOUSE: Right. 322 00:11:47,292 --> 00:11:48,458 PAUL BEBAN: I mean, that's where we 323 00:11:48,542 --> 00:11:49,750 launched another one of our rockets 324 00:11:49,833 --> 00:11:52,292 and had it go wildly off course. 325 00:11:52,375 --> 00:11:55,042 But I mean, look at this huge cluster right by the cistern. 326 00:11:55,125 --> 00:11:56,875 DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah, wow. 327 00:11:56,958 --> 00:12:01,750 32 individual viewers sketched versions of this cistern. 328 00:12:01,833 --> 00:12:03,375 PAUL BEBAN: Mm hm. 329 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,833 But the data-- the verbal sensory data that supported this 330 00:12:05,875 --> 00:12:09,417 was widening cracks and low tunnels down 331 00:12:09,542 --> 00:12:11,000 underneath it that spun off. 332 00:12:11,042 --> 00:12:12,542 So-- PAUL BEBAN: Oh, wow. 333 00:12:12,667 --> 00:12:13,500 DAVID MOREHOUSE: Yeah. 334 00:12:13,583 --> 00:12:15,208 These are corridors. 335 00:12:15,292 --> 00:12:18,833 These things were all discussed by viewers as militaristic. 336 00:12:18,917 --> 00:12:20,042 PAUL BEBAN: Mm hm. 337 00:12:20,208 --> 00:12:21,250 DAVID MOREHOUSE: People in uniform. 338 00:12:21,333 --> 00:12:22,833 PAUL BEBAN: Right. 339 00:12:22,917 --> 00:12:24,375 DAVID MOREHOUSE: Man made tunnels, overhead lighting. 340 00:12:24,458 --> 00:12:25,708 How deep? 341 00:12:25,792 --> 00:12:28,167 Well, we asked them to sense to 10,000 feet. 342 00:12:28,250 --> 00:12:30,000 Right. 343 00:12:30,042 --> 00:12:31,625 DAVID MOREHOUSE: But-- and how deep it might be, I don't know. 344 00:12:31,708 --> 00:12:33,375 Yeah. 345 00:12:33,458 --> 00:12:35,167 You know, this makes me think that Andy and I are going 346 00:12:35,208 --> 00:12:37,083 to have to try to get some more survey information about what's 347 00:12:37,167 --> 00:12:38,542 underground under the ranch. 348 00:12:38,542 --> 00:12:40,417 Yeah, just don't go down there. 349 00:12:40,417 --> 00:12:41,792 [laughing] 350 00:12:41,792 --> 00:12:43,125 [music playing] 351 00:12:48,792 --> 00:12:50,125 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Welcome back, gents. 352 00:12:50,208 --> 00:12:51,167 - Team Terra. - Good to see you. 353 00:12:51,208 --> 00:12:52,125 It's always good to see you guys. 354 00:12:52,125 --> 00:12:53,000 How are you? 355 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:54,667 ROBERT LEONARD: Good to see y'all. 356 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:55,083 Oh, are you bundled up for some action today? 357 00:12:55,167 --> 00:12:56,292 Yes. 358 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:57,000 It always seems to be cold with you guys 359 00:12:57,125 --> 00:12:58,583 [laughing] 360 00:12:58,667 --> 00:13:00,333 MOCEAN MELVIN: For the first experiment on Rocky Mountain 361 00:13:00,417 --> 00:13:03,333 Ranch, Andy and Paul have brought in geophysical survey 362 00:13:03,375 --> 00:13:06,333 experts Terra Exploration Group to help 363 00:13:06,375 --> 00:13:08,625 investigate the targets the remote viewer 364 00:13:08,625 --> 00:13:10,333 sensed underground. 365 00:13:10,375 --> 00:13:13,042 This is an area that has data that we've collected 366 00:13:13,125 --> 00:13:15,917 from a remote viewer experiment, which showed 367 00:13:16,042 --> 00:13:17,667 multiple types of strange anomalies 368 00:13:17,708 --> 00:13:20,208 that might exist underground and overhead. 369 00:13:20,292 --> 00:13:22,250 And we've seen some really strange effects here. 370 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:25,208 We had a rocket that launched here and deployed 371 00:13:25,292 --> 00:13:28,000 a normal chute, but then that chute went wildly 372 00:13:28,125 --> 00:13:30,500 off course, miles off course. 373 00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:32,750 [rocket whooshing] 374 00:13:32,833 --> 00:13:33,625 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Wow. 375 00:13:33,708 --> 00:13:35,833 OK, I just lost it. 376 00:13:35,875 --> 00:13:37,042 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Greg, is that it? 377 00:13:37,125 --> 00:13:38,292 Is that it? GREG: Yeah, there it is. 378 00:13:38,375 --> 00:13:39,333 Holy [bleep]. 379 00:13:39,417 --> 00:13:40,667 What's it doing over here? 380 00:13:40,708 --> 00:13:42,958 This is way off course. 381 00:13:43,042 --> 00:13:45,375 I've got the grid programmed in here already, 382 00:13:45,458 --> 00:13:47,292 and it's basically to cover that whole field. 383 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:49,000 And we're just going to go over there and push some buttons 384 00:13:49,083 --> 00:13:50,458 and be ready to go. 385 00:13:50,542 --> 00:13:53,500 MOCEAN MELVIN: In 2020, the Skinwalker Ranch team 386 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:57,500 used a magnetometer drone that identified a magnetic anomaly 387 00:13:57,583 --> 00:13:59,250 below ground next to the mesa. 388 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:00,750 ERIK BARD: It's telling us there's 389 00:14:00,875 --> 00:14:03,125 something going on in the ground, 390 00:14:03,208 --> 00:14:05,333 particularly there at the homestead area. 391 00:14:05,417 --> 00:14:08,125 I mean, it's clearly a magnetic anomaly there. 392 00:14:08,208 --> 00:14:09,875 MOCEAN MELVIN: Now, the Terra group 393 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,250 will use the same technology to see if they can identify 394 00:14:13,333 --> 00:14:16,708 anything underground at the treeline that could possibly 395 00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:19,000 validate the cluster of targets sensed here 396 00:14:19,083 --> 00:14:21,667 by the remote viewers, and help explain 397 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:25,792 what made the team's rocket go completely off course. 398 00:14:25,875 --> 00:14:27,708 Beautiful day for a drone launch. 399 00:14:27,708 --> 00:14:29,000 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yeah. 400 00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:30,375 MOCEAN MELVIN: Terra's drone flies 401 00:14:30,458 --> 00:14:33,000 in a grid pattern that is pre-programmed using 402 00:14:33,083 --> 00:14:35,333 GPS coordinates for navigation. 403 00:14:35,417 --> 00:14:37,292 The attached magnetometer will scan 404 00:14:37,375 --> 00:14:40,083 for evidence of possible voids and tunnels 405 00:14:40,167 --> 00:14:42,250 all around the treeline area. 406 00:14:42,333 --> 00:14:43,708 ROBERT LEONARD: OK, we're going up. 407 00:14:43,875 --> 00:14:44,833 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Let's do it. 408 00:14:44,917 --> 00:14:47,833 [drone whirring] 409 00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:51,000 PAUL BEBAN: Whoa. 410 00:14:51,083 --> 00:14:53,167 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: OK, that didn't sound good, did it? 411 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:54,958 That doesn't look good either. PAUL BEBAN: Where's it going? 412 00:14:55,042 --> 00:14:55,958 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Fighting the wind, for sure. 413 00:14:55,958 --> 00:14:57,000 PAUL BEBAN: Oh, oh. 414 00:14:57,042 --> 00:14:58,417 That our grid pattern? 415 00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,875 PAUL BEBAN: Whoa. 416 00:14:59,958 --> 00:15:00,875 ROBERT LEONARD: See how it's kind of squirrely? 417 00:15:00,875 --> 00:15:02,500 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Is that normal? 418 00:15:02,583 --> 00:15:03,875 ROBERT LEONARD: No, it should fly straighter than that. 419 00:15:03,958 --> 00:15:05,542 PAUL BEBAN: It's struggling with altitude. 420 00:15:05,625 --> 00:15:07,000 ROBERT LEONARD: Tell you, it does not like flying over here. 421 00:15:07,083 --> 00:15:08,667 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: It's just not happy. 422 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:11,083 ROBERT LEONARD: There's some kind of disturbance over here 423 00:15:11,167 --> 00:15:12,333 that it's not liking. 424 00:15:12,375 --> 00:15:13,917 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Sure looks like it. 425 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,917 ROBERT LEONARD: We're just going to let it keep 426 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,708 going so we can get the data. 427 00:15:15,792 --> 00:15:17,000 That right there-- 428 00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:17,833 you see that? 429 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,208 Yeah, I saw it. Oh. 430 00:15:19,292 --> 00:15:21,083 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Oh, man. Watch out. 431 00:15:21,167 --> 00:15:22,500 PAUL BEBAN: It's swinging that magnetometer all over the place. 432 00:15:22,625 --> 00:15:23,500 ROBERT LEONARD: Turbulence. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Watch out. 433 00:15:23,542 --> 00:15:24,792 ROBERT LEONARD: Oh, boy. 434 00:15:24,875 --> 00:15:26,208 PAUL BEBAN: And it's fighting hard. 435 00:15:26,292 --> 00:15:27,667 ROBERT LEONARD: All right, we're coming home. 436 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:29,708 OK. 437 00:15:29,833 --> 00:15:31,167 PAUL BEBAN: Oh, boy. 438 00:15:31,250 --> 00:15:32,333 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That is not a happy device, man. 439 00:15:32,458 --> 00:15:33,333 PAUL BEBAN: Not at all. 440 00:15:33,375 --> 00:15:35,000 [music playing] 441 00:15:35,042 --> 00:15:36,417 ROBERT LEONARD: Phew. 442 00:15:36,542 --> 00:15:37,875 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Ooh, that was touch and go. 443 00:15:37,958 --> 00:15:39,000 ROBERT LEONARD: Yeah. 444 00:15:39,042 --> 00:15:40,667 What was going on up there, Rob? 445 00:15:40,708 --> 00:15:44,042 It either doesn't like the cold. 446 00:15:44,042 --> 00:15:46,833 There may be something to these strange occurrences 447 00:15:46,917 --> 00:15:49,167 you guys keep running into. 448 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:50,833 But we'll get a look at this data 449 00:15:50,958 --> 00:15:52,458 because we got most of the grids, so-- 450 00:15:52,542 --> 00:15:53,083 - OK. - Yeah. 451 00:15:53,167 --> 00:15:54,542 - Perfect. - Cool. 452 00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:57,083 These initial results give us a whole new dimension 453 00:15:57,167 --> 00:15:58,750 to look at this property from. - Yeah. 454 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:00,292 Let's do it. 455 00:16:00,375 --> 00:16:02,333 Well, we're glad that it came down in one piece. 456 00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:04,583 That was an interesting start to the day. 457 00:16:04,708 --> 00:16:07,125 MOCEAN MELVIN: For the next stage of their investigation, 458 00:16:07,208 --> 00:16:10,208 Andy and Paul lead the Terra team to the landing site. 459 00:16:10,292 --> 00:16:12,167 This is the location where the team 460 00:16:12,208 --> 00:16:16,333 had a rocket crash in their first visit to the ranch. 461 00:16:16,417 --> 00:16:19,042 It's also the area where the remote viewers sensed 462 00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:21,708 strange double portals in the sky, 463 00:16:21,833 --> 00:16:24,000 and where Katie Paige, as a child, 464 00:16:24,042 --> 00:16:27,000 saw the barren circle on the ground. 465 00:16:27,042 --> 00:16:29,333 I mean, this is literally the crash site. 466 00:16:29,417 --> 00:16:31,417 Hopefully, it won't be crash site part two. 467 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,667 Keep your head on a swivel, and expect the unexpected 468 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:34,667 in this place. 469 00:16:34,667 --> 00:16:35,458 All right? 470 00:16:35,542 --> 00:16:37,333 [drone whirring] 471 00:16:37,417 --> 00:16:39,125 ROBERT LEONARD: All right, baby. Come on. 472 00:16:39,208 --> 00:16:40,542 PAUL BEBAN: That looks promising. 473 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:43,458 [drone whirring] 474 00:16:43,542 --> 00:16:45,833 [music playing] 475 00:16:45,875 --> 00:16:48,417 Whoa, whoa. 476 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:50,583 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Boy, it's really fighting the wind. 477 00:16:50,667 --> 00:16:53,125 ROBERT LEONARD: Oh, doesn't like that turn around down there. 478 00:16:53,208 --> 00:16:54,500 That's a tough place to turn. 479 00:16:54,542 --> 00:16:55,375 Yeah. 480 00:16:55,500 --> 00:16:56,875 Come on. 481 00:16:56,958 --> 00:16:57,833 Oh, boy. 482 00:16:57,917 --> 00:17:00,208 [drone whirring] 483 00:17:00,333 --> 00:17:01,042 Watch out. 484 00:17:01,125 --> 00:17:02,917 You saw that rock, right? 485 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,250 We're coming home. 486 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:06,875 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Had enough of that. 487 00:17:06,875 --> 00:17:09,833 [drone whirring] 488 00:17:09,917 --> 00:17:13,833 [music playing] 489 00:17:13,875 --> 00:17:16,958 We got data in there good. 490 00:17:17,042 --> 00:17:18,292 So where do we going next? 491 00:17:18,375 --> 00:17:20,125 Our last hotspot is up here at the cistern 492 00:17:20,208 --> 00:17:21,708 right at the top of the hill. 493 00:17:21,792 --> 00:17:23,458 ROBERT LEONARD: OK, let's go over there, see what we got. 494 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:25,375 BROGAN LEONARD: Keep it moving. All right. 495 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:28,000 MOCEAN MELVIN: The final hotspot for the team to explore 496 00:17:28,083 --> 00:17:29,792 is the cistern. 497 00:17:29,875 --> 00:17:32,625 This is the location where Andy and the current ranch owners 498 00:17:32,708 --> 00:17:36,250 heard a strange hum during their first investigation. 499 00:17:36,333 --> 00:17:37,250 Did you hear a noise? 500 00:17:37,333 --> 00:17:38,583 WOMAN: Just a humming noise. 501 00:17:38,667 --> 00:17:40,542 [humming] - Oh, that is a humming noise. 502 00:17:40,625 --> 00:17:42,042 I hear that, too. 503 00:17:42,042 --> 00:17:43,708 MOCEAN MELVIN: And where the remote viewers sensed 504 00:17:43,792 --> 00:17:45,833 large underground tunnels. 505 00:17:45,917 --> 00:17:49,292 Our primary objective here is to see what anomaly, if any, 506 00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:50,875 exists underground. ROBERT LEONARD: OK. 507 00:17:50,958 --> 00:17:52,750 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: And we have the cistern kind of blocking 508 00:17:52,833 --> 00:17:54,458 our path in many ways. - Yeah. 509 00:17:54,542 --> 00:17:56,833 So trying to do the magnetometer here would be a waste of time 510 00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:59,750 because it's just going to say that's an anomaly right there, 511 00:17:59,833 --> 00:18:00,667 but we know it's there. 512 00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:02,167 Right. 513 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:03,833 So resistivity will not be affected by any anomaly 514 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:05,292 out there. 515 00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:06,625 We've never had any issues with resistivity. 516 00:18:06,708 --> 00:18:09,375 MOCEAN MELVIN: In 2019, the Skinwalker team 517 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,167 did a resistivity survey that identified 518 00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:15,250 a potential underground cave in the east field. 519 00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:18,583 So this is the raw data plotted over a 2D grid. 520 00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:20,458 So blues are going to be more conductive 521 00:18:20,542 --> 00:18:22,333 and reds are going to be more resistive. 522 00:18:22,375 --> 00:18:24,375 MAN 7: More resistive might mean a hole. 523 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:25,083 PAUL BEBAN: Yep. 524 00:18:25,167 --> 00:18:27,417 So that could be a cave. 525 00:18:27,542 --> 00:18:30,500 MOCEAN MELVIN: Now Andy, Paul, and the Terra group 526 00:18:30,625 --> 00:18:32,792 will use the same technology to see 527 00:18:32,792 --> 00:18:36,667 if they can find evidence of a tunnel system under the cistern. 528 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:39,208 This is one of the most simple technologies that's been 529 00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:40,708 around since the early 1900s. 530 00:18:40,792 --> 00:18:43,125 It's just shock the ground and read the ohms. 531 00:18:43,208 --> 00:18:43,833 Shocking all. 532 00:18:43,917 --> 00:18:45,667 Yeah. 533 00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,833 MOCEAN MELVIN: Resistivity uses metal stakes and wires to send 534 00:18:48,917 --> 00:18:51,667 electric currents into the ground that will bounce 535 00:18:51,792 --> 00:18:54,375 off any solid objects or voids. 536 00:18:54,458 --> 00:18:56,708 The team will test down to 80 feet 537 00:18:56,833 --> 00:18:59,125 to see if they can find the tunnels that were 538 00:18:59,208 --> 00:19:00,750 sensed by the remote viewers. 539 00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:04,083 [music playing] 540 00:19:06,542 --> 00:19:08,500 Robert, I feel a little bit like we just built 541 00:19:08,583 --> 00:19:09,917 the nuclear football here, man. 542 00:19:09,917 --> 00:19:12,208 ROBERT LEONARD: Exactly. 543 00:19:12,292 --> 00:19:15,500 OK, so now we got it all set up. 544 00:19:15,583 --> 00:19:17,208 PAUL BEBAN (VOICEOVER): We really 545 00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:19,458 want to understand what's going on with this anomaly 546 00:19:19,542 --> 00:19:21,333 deep underground under the cistern, 547 00:19:21,417 --> 00:19:24,958 how that might tie in to all of these strange experiences 548 00:19:25,083 --> 00:19:26,500 here on the ranch. 549 00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:28,208 Will we get something completely unexpected? 550 00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:29,375 You know, who knows? 551 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:30,625 All right, that's what we got. 552 00:19:30,708 --> 00:19:32,500 [music playing] 553 00:19:32,542 --> 00:19:34,500 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: What's the initial data look like? 554 00:19:34,583 --> 00:19:36,250 I'll go plug it in on that other program 555 00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:37,542 and we'll take a look. 556 00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:40,208 Expect the unexpected is what I would have to say. 557 00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:41,250 - OK. - All right? 558 00:19:41,250 --> 00:19:41,958 All right. Let's do it. 559 00:19:41,958 --> 00:19:44,292 [music playing] 560 00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:50,042 [music playing] 561 00:19:50,208 --> 00:19:51,083 I'm actually really excited to see the results 562 00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:52,500 that you came up with today - OK. 563 00:19:52,583 --> 00:19:54,125 Because we have not had a chance to look underground 564 00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:55,750 on this ranch at all. 565 00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:58,375 MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy, Paul, and Terra Exploration Group 566 00:19:58,458 --> 00:20:00,792 conducted magnetometer and resistivity 567 00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:04,708 surveys at three hotspots on Rocky Mountain Ranch. 568 00:20:04,792 --> 00:20:07,833 Now they're meeting to review the results. 569 00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:09,042 All right. 570 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:10,042 Well, let's just dig into it. 571 00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:11,500 All right. 572 00:20:11,583 --> 00:20:13,917 So this is what we did on the cistern up there. 573 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,667 We ran the resistivity. 574 00:20:15,792 --> 00:20:18,167 The reds are going to be more conductive, 575 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:20,042 and the blues are going to be less conductive. 576 00:20:20,125 --> 00:20:23,500 So in my mind, haven't picked up anything strange there. 577 00:20:23,542 --> 00:20:25,500 But this shows our equipment's working 578 00:20:25,625 --> 00:20:27,333 good because you can see right here 579 00:20:27,417 --> 00:20:29,458 in the middle is the cistern. 580 00:20:29,583 --> 00:20:33,083 And then underneath it, it was just a higher resistance. 581 00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:34,667 So it's probably just really dry. 582 00:20:34,708 --> 00:20:36,458 And what's our maximum depth here? 583 00:20:36,542 --> 00:20:37,667 This goes about 80 feet. 584 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:39,167 PAUL BEBAN: OK. 585 00:20:39,208 --> 00:20:40,375 So, I mean, one thing to keep in mind here, 586 00:20:40,458 --> 00:20:42,500 Andy, is what we learned from Morehouse 587 00:20:42,583 --> 00:20:43,958 and the remote viewing team is they 588 00:20:44,083 --> 00:20:47,250 were identifying targets that were thousands of feet 589 00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:48,542 underground. 590 00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:50,125 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: So, yeah, it certainly 591 00:20:50,208 --> 00:20:51,458 seems like whatever underground anomalies 592 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:54,667 might exist at that cistern, they exceed 80 feet. 593 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:57,042 Yeah, deeper than we can detect with this equipment. 594 00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:58,333 ROBERT LEONARD: All right. 595 00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:01,792 So this is what we did to the tree line. 596 00:21:01,875 --> 00:21:06,458 And we flew our drone up there and didn't have a whole lot 597 00:21:06,542 --> 00:21:07,500 of luck flying the drone. 598 00:21:07,583 --> 00:21:10,167 It was not-- it was not happy. 599 00:21:10,250 --> 00:21:12,667 But we did get some pretty good data. 600 00:21:12,708 --> 00:21:14,375 When we use a magnetometer, we're reading 601 00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:15,833 the Earth's magnetic field. 602 00:21:15,875 --> 00:21:17,792 The blues are going to be less conductive. 603 00:21:17,875 --> 00:21:20,167 And you can see on the little scale chart 604 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,167 there, not much of a change. 605 00:21:22,208 --> 00:21:25,500 So I, myself, would just kind of pass this off as nothing. 606 00:21:25,542 --> 00:21:27,708 But that doesn't mean something weird isn't going on there, 607 00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:29,500 it's just we can't see it underground. 608 00:21:29,583 --> 00:21:31,542 PAUL BEBAN: This was the launch site where 609 00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:34,000 on our last investigation here, the rocket 610 00:21:34,083 --> 00:21:35,500 just veered wildly off course. 611 00:21:35,583 --> 00:21:37,333 But what you're saying, it doesn't look like there's 612 00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:38,833 anything on the ground-- 613 00:21:38,917 --> 00:21:40,333 Right. 614 00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:41,333 --or underground that would have caused that. 615 00:21:41,417 --> 00:21:43,083 ROBERT LEONARD: It looks-- 616 00:21:43,208 --> 00:21:45,000 I mean, that's kind of as plain as you're ever going to see it. 617 00:21:45,083 --> 00:21:47,500 What we're seeing in the tree line, what we're seeing 618 00:21:47,542 --> 00:21:51,167 at the cistern, is not strange in terms of the first 80 619 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:52,667 to 100 feet of topsoil. 620 00:21:52,708 --> 00:21:55,333 Just happy we didn't crash it this time. 621 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,375 All right, you ready to go to the landing site? 622 00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:58,792 Yeah, let's do it. 623 00:21:58,792 --> 00:22:01,542 This one's a little perplexing to me. 624 00:22:01,625 --> 00:22:03,667 We were able to get most of our grid. 625 00:22:03,708 --> 00:22:09,000 But all that black area there is no magnetometer data. 626 00:22:09,167 --> 00:22:10,250 I can't explain it. 627 00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:11,542 It's never happened before. 628 00:22:11,625 --> 00:22:13,167 You've never seen this before? 629 00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:14,542 Never seen it like that before. 630 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:16,292 But the GPS was working. 631 00:22:16,375 --> 00:22:17,667 The drone was flying over this area. 632 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:20,042 It just wasn't-- the magnetometer was not 633 00:22:20,125 --> 00:22:21,417 collecting data from that area. 634 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:23,000 ROBERT LEONARD: Yeah. Think about it. 635 00:22:23,083 --> 00:22:24,208 It has to go back and forth. 636 00:22:24,292 --> 00:22:26,167 So now it's collecting, now it's not. 637 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:27,542 Now it's collecting, now it's not. 638 00:22:27,667 --> 00:22:29,292 So that's what I don't understand. 639 00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:31,292 So it's like an on/off, on/off-- 640 00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:32,208 ROBERT LEONARD: Yeah. 641 00:22:32,292 --> 00:22:33,750 So weird. 642 00:22:33,833 --> 00:22:36,167 That's where we were flipping the Frisbee where 643 00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:37,875 we had that snowless circle. 644 00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:39,500 PAUL BEBAN: This is also the place where 645 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,583 during our first investigation on this ranch, 646 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:44,208 our rocket failed to deploy its chute 647 00:22:44,292 --> 00:22:46,708 and crash landed right inside that black area. 648 00:22:46,792 --> 00:22:50,333 And we've hypothesize that the reason it crashed is because it 649 00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:52,667 passed through some kind of aerial 650 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:57,833 anomaly at some 1,400 to 1,600 feet above this location. 651 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Dr. Morehouse also showed us a very distinct drawing compiled 652 00:23:01,125 --> 00:23:03,667 from multiple remote viewers that showed two different types 653 00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:06,125 of anomalies at two different altitudes 654 00:23:06,208 --> 00:23:09,333 with two different energies that coincided with each other. 655 00:23:09,375 --> 00:23:10,958 PAUL BEBAN: Right. 656 00:23:11,042 --> 00:23:13,833 Is there some kind of disturbance at different levels? 657 00:23:13,917 --> 00:23:16,958 Whatever electronic interference is going on, 658 00:23:16,958 --> 00:23:19,875 there's some kind of pattern you guys are onto. 659 00:23:19,875 --> 00:23:21,667 Something weird's going on out here. 660 00:23:21,708 --> 00:23:23,500 We're getting all this weird data 661 00:23:23,583 --> 00:23:28,000 that keeps asking us to look up, look up at the sky here. 662 00:23:28,083 --> 00:23:30,458 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Specifically in that landing site area. 663 00:23:30,542 --> 00:23:32,167 There really is something about this area 664 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:35,250 that points to all the same telltale signs of a portal. 665 00:23:35,375 --> 00:23:38,500 [music playing] 666 00:23:41,625 --> 00:23:44,083 You know, we came here looking to see if there was something 667 00:23:44,167 --> 00:23:45,833 worth exploring underground. 668 00:23:45,917 --> 00:23:48,625 And all of our data is pointing us back towards the sky. 669 00:23:48,708 --> 00:23:51,333 Even with the Terra team, even with Terra Exploration where 670 00:23:51,458 --> 00:23:53,000 we're looking to figure out what's going on 671 00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:55,750 with these underground anomalies that Morehouse 672 00:23:55,833 --> 00:23:57,542 and the remote viewers pointed us toward, 673 00:23:57,625 --> 00:23:59,000 we're still looking up in the sky. 674 00:23:59,083 --> 00:24:02,083 We saw the drone fighting right as we tried to get it 675 00:24:02,167 --> 00:24:03,542 to fly over the landing site. 676 00:24:03,625 --> 00:24:04,958 I don't know what was going on there, 677 00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:08,125 but we lost half of the data from the magnetometer. 678 00:24:08,208 --> 00:24:10,875 I feel like we need to find a way to engage the phenomenon, 679 00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:13,833 actually explore the boundaries of the anomaly overhead. 680 00:24:13,917 --> 00:24:15,500 In that case, I mean, I think there's 681 00:24:15,583 --> 00:24:17,417 only really one way to go. 682 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,125 We've got to bring in like precision. 683 00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:20,417 We need to launch more rockets. 684 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,125 Yeah, rockets seem like the best solution 685 00:24:22,208 --> 00:24:24,667 here because we get to decide when they go, where they go, 686 00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:25,833 and how high they go. 687 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,667 One of the things I want to do is 688 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:28,542 I want to put some careful attention into the payloads 689 00:24:28,625 --> 00:24:29,792 that we put into the rockets. 690 00:24:29,875 --> 00:24:31,792 Really, every rocket we launch should 691 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:34,208 have a payload with multiple data sensors inside it. 692 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:35,917 That way, we have multiple chances 693 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,875 to collect whatever data is actually happening in the sky. 694 00:24:37,875 --> 00:24:38,875 Right. 695 00:24:38,875 --> 00:24:40,833 Bigger payloads, bigger rockets, just a bigger 696 00:24:40,833 --> 00:24:42,125 shot at this this time around. 697 00:24:42,125 --> 00:24:44,792 [music playing] 698 00:24:50,792 --> 00:24:52,417 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Morning, guys. PAUL BEBAN: Morning. 699 00:24:52,542 --> 00:24:53,583 MIKE TURICIK: How are you? - Good to see you again. 700 00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:54,833 PAUL BEBAN: Good to see you. 701 00:24:54,917 --> 00:24:56,167 MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy and Paul have called 702 00:24:56,292 --> 00:24:57,667 in Skinwalker rocket experts. 703 00:24:57,708 --> 00:25:00,833 Allen Isdell and Mike Turicik from Loc Precision 704 00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:04,000 to help them conduct a rocket test at the landing site, 705 00:25:04,083 --> 00:25:07,375 an area where they think there could be a possible portal 706 00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:08,958 above Rocky Mountain Ranch. 707 00:25:09,042 --> 00:25:10,458 We're excited to have you back. 708 00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:12,208 This area specifically that we're set up on 709 00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:14,750 is one of the strangest from our first experiment here. 710 00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:16,208 Yeah. No, the last year was-- 711 00:25:16,208 --> 00:25:17,833 I mean, that was a very odd launch. 712 00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:20,958 Good flight up, no ejection charge, right? 713 00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:23,292 Rocket never separated, no parachute. 714 00:25:23,375 --> 00:25:24,333 That was not common. 715 00:25:24,375 --> 00:25:27,042 [rocket whirring] 716 00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:28,917 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: We had some sort of anomaly 717 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,125 that brought our previous rocket down 718 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:33,708 almost exactly on this spot. 719 00:25:33,792 --> 00:25:34,500 [bleep] 720 00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:37,375 What is going on? 721 00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:41,708 And it was a very distinct, very significant spike in EMF energy 722 00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:45,292 at altitude at the peak of the rocket's launch. 723 00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:46,667 Right. 724 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:47,917 And since then, we've confirmed that there's 725 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,542 multiple sources of data that show 726 00:25:49,625 --> 00:25:51,375 that there's some kind of anomalous activity 727 00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:53,000 somewhere around here. 728 00:25:53,083 --> 00:25:55,292 So we've actually opted to have two launch sites and two 729 00:25:55,375 --> 00:25:56,667 different rockets that we're trying 730 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:58,583 to launch into the same area. 731 00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:01,042 MOCEAN MELVIN: The plan is to launch two rockets from two 732 00:26:01,125 --> 00:26:04,042 different locations, both aimed at the airspace 733 00:26:04,167 --> 00:26:07,792 above the landing site where the data the team has collected 734 00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,167 suggests there could be a portal. 735 00:26:10,292 --> 00:26:12,833 See if we can't really poke that hornet's nest a little bit 736 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:14,167 and see what's going on. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Awesome. 737 00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:15,500 PAUL BEBAN: Perfect. 738 00:26:15,583 --> 00:26:16,542 You can tell Allen's been on our team 739 00:26:16,625 --> 00:26:17,667 with the terminology he uses. 740 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,417 ALLEN ISDELL: Yep. 741 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:21,042 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: He's picking up on the Skinwalker lingo. 742 00:26:21,125 --> 00:26:22,333 I like it. 743 00:26:22,458 --> 00:26:23,750 MOCEAN MELVIN: The Warlock is a four 744 00:26:23,833 --> 00:26:25,583 and a half foot rocket that can reach 745 00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:28,000 a height of almost 2,000 feet. 746 00:26:28,042 --> 00:26:32,292 Since an electromagnetic spike was recorded at 1,800 feet right 747 00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:35,125 before the rocket crashed in their first investigation 748 00:26:35,208 --> 00:26:39,000 at Rocky Mountain ranch, Andy and Paul will equip this rocket 749 00:26:39,083 --> 00:26:42,750 with a payload consisting of a trifield meter that will capture 750 00:26:42,833 --> 00:26:45,917 the electromagnetic energy readings throughout the launch, 751 00:26:46,042 --> 00:26:48,875 and a camera that will record the data. 752 00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:50,958 This rocket will be launched directly 753 00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:53,917 underneath the aerial target at the landing site. 754 00:26:54,042 --> 00:26:56,750 The team will watch for any alterations in the rocket's 755 00:26:56,875 --> 00:26:58,917 normal flight path that might indicate 756 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,000 the presence of a portal or unknown force in the sky. 757 00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:06,667 I have to admit, this particular launch has me on pins 758 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,417 and needles a little bit. 759 00:27:08,417 --> 00:27:10,792 It was so unnatural seeing the rocket tumble to the ground 760 00:27:10,875 --> 00:27:12,458 last time right here. - Right. 761 00:27:12,542 --> 00:27:14,958 And now we're actually doing it right from the same location. 762 00:27:15,042 --> 00:27:17,458 And we know we're targeting a specific altitude. 763 00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:18,917 We've got a larger rocket. 764 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,792 It kind of feels like we're looking for trouble. 765 00:27:20,875 --> 00:27:22,625 Yeah, that's one way to put it. 766 00:27:22,708 --> 00:27:26,125 [music playing] 767 00:27:30,208 --> 00:27:31,292 All right. 768 00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:32,167 All right. 769 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:33,667 Skies clear, Mike? 770 00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,167 MIKE TURICIK: Skies clear, free of aircraft. 771 00:27:35,208 --> 00:27:36,125 ALLEN ISDELL: All right. 772 00:27:36,208 --> 00:27:37,667 Arm in the pad. 773 00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:39,167 Range is hot. 774 00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:44,583 Going in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 775 00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:48,042 [music playing] 776 00:27:49,208 --> 00:27:51,167 [rocket whirring] 777 00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:52,292 GREG: Good flight. 778 00:27:52,375 --> 00:27:53,208 All right. 779 00:27:53,292 --> 00:27:54,583 Watch for an event. 780 00:27:54,667 --> 00:27:55,875 It's out. Come on. 781 00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:57,375 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look out. - Come on. 782 00:27:57,375 --> 00:27:58,500 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look out. 783 00:27:58,542 --> 00:27:59,333 MIKE TURICIK: Give me your chute. 784 00:27:59,417 --> 00:28:00,500 Give me your chute. 785 00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:02,000 [music playing] 786 00:28:02,042 --> 00:28:02,667 Oh! 787 00:28:02,708 --> 00:28:05,042 Oh my goodness. 788 00:28:05,125 --> 00:28:08,292 ALLEN ISDELL: Yeah, that's twice. 789 00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:09,417 Twice. 790 00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:12,375 Outside of here and Skinwalker, 791 00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,000 95% or better success rate. 792 00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:15,500 PAUL BEBAN: Uh huh. - Oh, wow. 793 00:28:15,583 --> 00:28:16,375 OK. 794 00:28:16,458 --> 00:28:18,208 Here, 50/50. 795 00:28:18,292 --> 00:28:19,875 I was going to say. 796 00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:21,167 ALLEN ISDELL: Right at apogee, you know, it's perfect. 797 00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:23,125 Nice arc over, everything looked good. 798 00:28:23,208 --> 00:28:25,542 And then we should have had our chute deploy-- 799 00:28:25,625 --> 00:28:26,667 nothing. 800 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:29,833 What caused that to not deploy? 801 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:33,083 This may have been right in the exact same spot. 802 00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:34,958 MOCEAN MELVIN: Andy and Greg head off 803 00:28:35,042 --> 00:28:38,375 to retrieve the rocket to see if any of the data inside it 804 00:28:38,458 --> 00:28:40,333 survived the crash. 805 00:28:40,375 --> 00:28:42,667 Whoo. 806 00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:43,667 Oh, man. 807 00:28:46,083 --> 00:28:48,458 This guy is just destroyed. 808 00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:50,250 This is a punch to the gut. 809 00:28:50,375 --> 00:28:53,500 Almost everything got destroyed when this rocket hit the ground. 810 00:28:53,625 --> 00:28:55,167 But the one silver lining here, though, 811 00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:56,875 is that we're getting repeat results. 812 00:28:56,875 --> 00:28:58,583 This is almost the exact same outcome 813 00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:02,542 that we had when we launched a large rocket from the cistern 814 00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:03,625 during our first experiment. 815 00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:05,583 [music playing] 816 00:29:05,708 --> 00:29:07,292 Ho, ho, ho, man. 817 00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:09,667 I don't know if our little egg survived that crash test, man. 818 00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:10,583 PAUL BEBAN: Oh my god. 819 00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:11,500 Look at that. 820 00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:12,583 Oh, wow. Look at that. 821 00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:13,958 Wow. Ooh. 822 00:29:14,083 --> 00:29:14,667 Oof. 823 00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:15,375 Oh, man. 824 00:29:17,458 --> 00:29:18,667 ALLEN ISDELL: Oh. 825 00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:19,333 PAUL BEBAN: Well, that's not promising. 826 00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,917 No. 827 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,167 Everyone's heart just kind of drops to the floor 828 00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:23,958 because this thing is completely shattered, 829 00:29:24,042 --> 00:29:25,417 just catastrophic failure. 830 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:26,667 We're picking up the pieces. 831 00:29:26,708 --> 00:29:28,917 But in those pieces, this is data. 832 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,708 This is results that we can use to try 833 00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:32,333 to further this investigation. 834 00:29:32,375 --> 00:29:36,458 So the good news is that these are still in one piece-- 835 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:37,917 the two cameras. 836 00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:39,833 MIKE TURICIK: We'll be able to pull the cards. 837 00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:42,583 Where is the charge that should 838 00:29:42,667 --> 00:29:44,500 have launched the parachute? 839 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:45,708 ALLEN ISDELL: Never went off. 840 00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:46,625 It never went off? 841 00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:47,458 Never went off. 842 00:29:47,542 --> 00:29:48,833 Never deployed. 843 00:29:48,875 --> 00:29:49,708 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Huh. 844 00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:51,250 That's odd. 845 00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:52,958 That's very odd. 846 00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:58,000 It burned through, and there's a charred residue from the powder. 847 00:29:58,042 --> 00:30:01,417 But it never kicked out the cap to deploy the rocket. 848 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,625 Which would have been the cap getting pushed out. 849 00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,958 I mean, to see it burned and still have 850 00:30:06,042 --> 00:30:08,333 that little plug cap in, it's the first time 851 00:30:08,417 --> 00:30:10,167 we've ever seen this happen. 852 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:11,833 Wow. 853 00:30:11,875 --> 00:30:13,667 You know, there's definitely some phenomenon going on. 854 00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:15,833 Well, the phenomenon is not with the rocket. 855 00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:17,792 The phenomenon is what the rocket is entering into. 856 00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:18,583 - Right. - It's got to be. 857 00:30:18,667 --> 00:30:20,083 PAUL BEBAN: Exactly. 858 00:30:20,167 --> 00:30:22,417 I mean, here we have two instances separated by time, 859 00:30:22,542 --> 00:30:24,500 and we have very similar results. 860 00:30:24,583 --> 00:30:25,750 This is weird. 861 00:30:25,833 --> 00:30:28,042 There's something going on up there. 862 00:30:28,125 --> 00:30:30,333 Let's see if the next one will do better. 863 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,875 MOCEAN MELVIN: For the final launch, 864 00:30:36,958 --> 00:30:39,167 the team sets up their next rocket about 865 00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:42,375 350 feet south at the cistern. 866 00:30:42,458 --> 00:30:45,833 Having already targeted the aerial anomaly from the landing 867 00:30:45,917 --> 00:30:49,208 site itself, the plan is to launch the second rocket 868 00:30:49,292 --> 00:30:51,833 directed at the same area in the sky, 869 00:30:51,958 --> 00:30:53,875 but this time from a different angle 870 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,750 to see what additional data it might collect. 871 00:30:56,875 --> 00:30:57,750 All right. 872 00:30:57,833 --> 00:30:59,500 The grand finale. 873 00:30:59,583 --> 00:31:01,958 We've got our largest payload, too, that we've ever flown here. 874 00:31:01,958 --> 00:31:04,125 So, I mean, whatever aerial anomaly might be here, 875 00:31:04,208 --> 00:31:05,750 we're looking at hitting it right now from a completely 876 00:31:05,833 --> 00:31:07,333 different angle. 877 00:31:07,375 --> 00:31:09,292 And by going up 3,000 feet, we potentially have 878 00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:11,417 the opportunity to hit it going up and then 879 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,458 again coming back down. 880 00:31:12,542 --> 00:31:13,375 Right. 881 00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:14,375 That is a massive-- 882 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:15,333 Look at that thing. 883 00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:16,208 --massive rocket. 884 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:17,333 That is taller than you, Allen. 885 00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:18,833 [laughing] 886 00:31:18,917 --> 00:31:20,583 Well, are we ready to put it up in the air? 887 00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:22,292 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yes, absolutely. 888 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:23,250 I can't wait. 889 00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:25,083 MOCEAN MELVIN: The eight foot tall 890 00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:29,167 Loc VII rocket can reach an altitude of up to 3,000 feet. 891 00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:32,208 The Loc VII is equipped with a trifield meter, 892 00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:36,167 spectrum analyzer, Geiger counter, and GPS tracker. 893 00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:38,958 If this launch is successful, it would collect 894 00:31:39,042 --> 00:31:41,667 more data than any rocket experiment 895 00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:43,667 executed on Skinwalker Ranch. 896 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:44,833 [beeping] 897 00:31:44,875 --> 00:31:46,625 All right, we're good. 898 00:31:46,708 --> 00:31:47,917 All right, let's do it. 899 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,875 [music playing] 900 00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:52,375 All right. 901 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:53,417 Sky clear? 902 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:54,333 MIKE TURICIK: Yes, sir. 903 00:31:54,417 --> 00:31:55,792 [music playing] 904 00:31:55,875 --> 00:31:58,625 ALLEN ISDELL: Pad's armed. 905 00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:04,333 Going in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 906 00:32:04,417 --> 00:32:06,458 [music playing] 907 00:32:06,542 --> 00:32:08,417 [high pitched buzzing] 908 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:11,000 [rocket whirring] 909 00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:12,042 PAUL BEBAN: Holy smokes. 910 00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:13,417 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Wow. 911 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,917 Good flight. 912 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,708 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That is right over our heads. 913 00:32:16,792 --> 00:32:18,167 ALLEN ISDELL: We're at apogee. 914 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:19,042 It's down. 915 00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:21,625 Oh, nice. We got a chute. 916 00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:22,458 Wow. 917 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:24,500 Woo. 918 00:32:24,542 --> 00:32:26,500 I'll tell you what, my heart was in my throat 919 00:32:26,583 --> 00:32:27,375 there for a second. 920 00:32:27,458 --> 00:32:28,208 I was like-- 921 00:32:28,292 --> 00:32:29,500 Hands up. 922 00:32:29,542 --> 00:32:30,792 It's right over us. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yep. 923 00:32:30,875 --> 00:32:32,417 ALLEN ISDELL: It's a beautiful thing. 924 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,000 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Still coming down right at us, though. 925 00:32:34,125 --> 00:32:35,500 Make sure you got a clear path if you need to move. 926 00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:36,833 MIKE TURICIK: You got it. 927 00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:38,417 ALLEN ISDELL: Let's see, into the trees. 928 00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:39,833 Clear the power lines. 929 00:32:39,917 --> 00:32:40,875 She's on the ground. 930 00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,833 MIKE TURICIK: In the trees. 931 00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:44,500 ALLEN ISDELL: Yep, she's on the ground. 932 00:32:44,542 --> 00:32:45,667 All right. - Beautiful. 933 00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:46,542 Greg, you ready, man? 934 00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:47,458 Yes let's go. 935 00:32:47,458 --> 00:32:49,208 [music playing] 936 00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,208 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: We had a textbook launch that's 937 00:32:51,292 --> 00:32:53,167 going to bring back the largest payload of data 938 00:32:53,292 --> 00:32:55,917 that we've ever had in any of our previous investigations. 939 00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:58,375 Not only is today going to inform Paul and I's 940 00:32:58,458 --> 00:33:00,750 ongoing investigations here in Rocky Mountain Ranch, 941 00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:03,083 but it's also going to inform the investigations that are 942 00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:05,375 happening at Skinwalker Ranch. 943 00:33:05,542 --> 00:33:06,000 There she is. 944 00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:09,333 [music playing] 945 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:12,667 Yeah, the payload should be fine. 946 00:33:12,792 --> 00:33:13,583 Everything looks good. 947 00:33:13,667 --> 00:33:16,625 [music playing] 948 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:18,833 What's the matter? 949 00:33:18,917 --> 00:33:21,333 It's saying we hit 1,300 feet. 950 00:33:21,417 --> 00:33:24,333 But the other one was 1,400, right? 951 00:33:24,375 --> 00:33:25,500 Yeah. 952 00:33:25,583 --> 00:33:26,833 It looked a lot-- 953 00:33:26,917 --> 00:33:28,583 And that appeared to go a lot higher. 954 00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:30,333 It sure seemed like it. 955 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:33,250 So that's-- obviously, that's completely off. 956 00:33:33,333 --> 00:33:35,083 The altitude definitely seems wrong. 957 00:33:35,167 --> 00:33:39,583 The range-- distance from launch pad to where it landed-- 958 00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:42,958 I mean, this is saying it's less than 1,000 feet away. 959 00:33:43,042 --> 00:33:44,750 That's definitely more than 1,000 feet. 960 00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,958 PAUL BEBAN: That looks like more than 1,000 feet. 961 00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:48,542 And that's more like half mile. 962 00:33:48,625 --> 00:33:50,583 So, I mean, what is this telling you right now? 963 00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:52,708 I mean, the GPS is not functioning properly. 964 00:33:52,792 --> 00:33:54,917 There's definitely something going on with that. 965 00:33:55,042 --> 00:33:56,292 Yeah, we'll have to download the data and see. 966 00:33:56,375 --> 00:33:57,625 Yeah. 967 00:33:57,625 --> 00:33:58,542 PAUL BEBAN (VOICEOVER): So we got a clean launch 968 00:33:58,625 --> 00:34:00,292 and landing here. 969 00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:01,750 But already, we're seeing that there's some kind of problems. 970 00:34:01,833 --> 00:34:04,625 Even when it seems like everything has gone perfectly, 971 00:34:04,708 --> 00:34:07,833 the ranch seems to be interfering with our instruments 972 00:34:07,958 --> 00:34:09,500 once again. 973 00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:11,125 I mean, we just can't figure out what's going on here. 974 00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:12,833 You know, because line of sight is good. 975 00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:14,333 PAUL BEBAN: Yep. 976 00:34:14,375 --> 00:34:15,958 But with this, we're communicating via satellite, 977 00:34:16,042 --> 00:34:17,458 so it's signals going up and down. 978 00:34:17,542 --> 00:34:18,833 Right. 979 00:34:18,917 --> 00:34:20,042 So that means something going up and down 980 00:34:20,125 --> 00:34:21,958 is throwing that off. 981 00:34:22,042 --> 00:34:24,500 I mean, it speaks to-- again-- possibly some kind 982 00:34:24,583 --> 00:34:27,625 of electromagnetic anomaly that's possibly 983 00:34:27,708 --> 00:34:28,583 affecting the instruments. 984 00:34:28,708 --> 00:34:30,083 Yeah. 985 00:34:30,167 --> 00:34:31,208 PAUL BEBAN: Already, things are a little weird. 986 00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:32,792 ALLEN ISDELL: They are. 987 00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:34,708 PAUL BEBAN: All right. ALLEN ISDELL: How's she look? 988 00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:35,667 Aw, man. 989 00:34:35,708 --> 00:34:37,167 Pretty awesome. 990 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:38,833 Hot rocket coming. 991 00:34:38,875 --> 00:34:39,667 Here you go. 992 00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:43,125 [music playing] 993 00:34:44,542 --> 00:34:45,958 Looking good. 994 00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:47,208 Well, everything is in tact. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look at that. 995 00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:48,667 MIKE TURICIK: Intact and running. 996 00:34:48,708 --> 00:34:49,625 Everything's running. 997 00:34:49,708 --> 00:34:50,458 Yep. 998 00:34:50,542 --> 00:34:52,042 Fantastic. 999 00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,708 I think we can safely say this was the single most 1000 00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:56,542 successful rocket experiment-- 1001 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:58,208 Right. 1002 00:34:58,208 --> 00:35:00,333 --on this ranch or Skinwalker Ranch because every 1003 00:35:00,417 --> 00:35:01,833 payload they put up like this-- 1004 00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,167 Yeah. 1005 00:35:03,250 --> 00:35:04,583 --I think has been affected in some way. 1006 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,208 We got our rocket and our instruments. 1007 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:07,792 - All back. - First. 1008 00:35:07,875 --> 00:35:09,250 Well, wait until you hear. 1009 00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:11,542 So we got good flight, good recovery, weird data. 1010 00:35:11,625 --> 00:35:12,333 What? 1011 00:35:12,375 --> 00:35:13,542 Yeah. 1012 00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:15,833 GPS data is going all over the place. 1013 00:35:15,875 --> 00:35:16,917 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: No way. - Yeah. 1014 00:35:17,042 --> 00:35:18,208 OK. 1015 00:35:18,292 --> 00:35:19,833 So what looked like a pretty awesome 1016 00:35:19,917 --> 00:35:23,458 launch still had some anomalous readings in the GPS arena? 1017 00:35:23,542 --> 00:35:24,667 Yeah. 1018 00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:26,417 Let's pack up and take it back to the shop. 1019 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:27,125 Sounds good. 1020 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:27,833 PAUL BEBAN: OK. 1021 00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:37,958 Andy and Paul, tell us about your adventures 1022 00:35:38,042 --> 00:35:39,542 at Rocky Mountain Ranch. 1023 00:35:39,625 --> 00:35:41,708 PAUL BEBAN: It's always an adventure, that is for sure. 1024 00:35:41,792 --> 00:35:45,417 We got some results here that I think both confirm a lot of what 1025 00:35:45,542 --> 00:35:47,833 we set out to understand, but opened up, 1026 00:35:47,917 --> 00:35:49,333 again, just more questions. 1027 00:35:49,375 --> 00:35:51,250 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: We started by splitting up right 1028 00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:52,708 out of the gate so that we could try 1029 00:35:52,792 --> 00:35:54,333 to maximize our time on target. PAUL BEBAN: Yes. 1030 00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:56,542 And I took Katie Paige, the original experiencer, 1031 00:35:56,625 --> 00:35:57,667 back to the ranch. 1032 00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:00,542 She shared with me the location of a place 1033 00:36:00,625 --> 00:36:03,458 where she and her sister, as a child, used to play. 1034 00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:06,250 An area that she described as strange because it 1035 00:36:06,375 --> 00:36:07,708 was perpetually barren. 1036 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:09,542 How large of an area are we talking about here? 1037 00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:10,667 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: About 70 feet across-- 1038 00:36:10,708 --> 00:36:12,167 Oh, wow. 1039 00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:13,292 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: --and an almost perfect circle. 1040 00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:14,667 Yeah, so it's a pretty big space. 1041 00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:17,875 And it actually also corresponds with details written 1042 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,625 in the APRO report as well. 1043 00:36:19,708 --> 00:36:22,792 And then this is where our rocket crashed. 1044 00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:25,917 Last time we were there, the rocket fell in the same location 1045 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,375 as that circle. 1046 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,750 So we have this corresponding location that she 1047 00:36:29,875 --> 00:36:31,708 calls the landing site. 1048 00:36:31,792 --> 00:36:33,167 That's really interesting. 1049 00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:34,458 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: So during our investigation, 1050 00:36:34,542 --> 00:36:36,333 we had the Terra Exploration Team join us. 1051 00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:40,292 And they ran a aerial magnetometer 1052 00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:42,042 over the landing site. 1053 00:36:42,125 --> 00:36:46,333 The black area is an area where the drone and the magnetometer 1054 00:36:46,417 --> 00:36:48,458 failed to pick up any data. 1055 00:36:48,542 --> 00:36:52,458 Isn't the circle right where the black dot data is? 1056 00:36:52,542 --> 00:36:54,208 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yes, sir. 1057 00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:55,708 TRAVIS TAYLOR: So they couldn't get magnetometer 1058 00:36:55,792 --> 00:36:56,917 data of the circle? 1059 00:36:57,042 --> 00:36:58,042 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That's exactly right. 1060 00:36:58,167 --> 00:36:59,208 That's important to me. 1061 00:36:59,292 --> 00:37:00,667 That's very suggestive. 1062 00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,417 Yeah. 1063 00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:05,542 We also called in one of the largest remote viewing exercises 1064 00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:08,167 to have ever been done, led by Dr. Morehouse. 1065 00:37:08,208 --> 00:37:09,667 I remember that now, yes. 1066 00:37:09,708 --> 00:37:11,250 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yeah. 1067 00:37:11,375 --> 00:37:13,917 And some of the results that the remote viewing team was 1068 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,333 able to give us about what they were sensing and viewing 1069 00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:20,167 at this location is energy flowing 1070 00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:22,583 through a second set of energy. 1071 00:37:22,667 --> 00:37:26,000 The story is really coalescing around this one location-- 1072 00:37:26,083 --> 00:37:27,667 the landing site-- 1073 00:37:27,667 --> 00:37:30,167 so we decided to double down on exploring 1074 00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:31,917 our aerial anomalies more. 1075 00:37:32,042 --> 00:37:34,292 We called in Loc Precision because of the results 1076 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:36,333 that we just got from the Terra Exploration Team. 1077 00:37:36,375 --> 00:37:38,125 I'm very comfortable with that approach. 1078 00:37:38,208 --> 00:37:39,375 You're being led by your data. 1079 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,125 That's what we say here all the time. 1080 00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:44,000 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Here is our actual rocket launch centered 1081 00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:47,667 in the landing site itself, launched from the ground up 1082 00:37:47,708 --> 00:37:49,667 through the anomaly near the landing site. 1083 00:37:49,833 --> 00:37:50,958 ERIK BARD: OK. 1084 00:37:51,042 --> 00:37:54,250 [rocket whirring] 1085 00:37:55,667 --> 00:37:56,667 MIKE TURICIK: Come on. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Look out. 1086 00:37:56,792 --> 00:37:57,917 MIKE TURICIK: Give me your chute. 1087 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,708 Give me your chute. 1088 00:37:58,792 --> 00:38:01,583 [beeping] 1089 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:02,375 Oh! 1090 00:38:02,458 --> 00:38:03,458 MIKE TURICIK: Lawn dart. 1091 00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:04,708 Very similar to the malfunction 1092 00:38:04,708 --> 00:38:06,083 that we had the first time we sent 1093 00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:07,583 something through this anomaly. 1094 00:38:07,667 --> 00:38:11,000 And all of the SD cards were corrupted. 1095 00:38:11,083 --> 00:38:12,500 Wow. 1096 00:38:12,583 --> 00:38:15,250 We sent them to a data recovery specialist, 1097 00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:16,542 and could not pull the data. 1098 00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:18,542 The cards were completely corrupted. 1099 00:38:18,625 --> 00:38:20,708 What got us excited about this experiment 1100 00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:23,583 was that we had a repeatable experiment. 1101 00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:26,292 We put a rocket through the same aerial anomaly 1102 00:38:26,375 --> 00:38:28,167 at a different point in time. 1103 00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:30,917 But in both cases, there was systematic failure 1104 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,333 of the rocket. 1105 00:38:32,417 --> 00:38:34,167 And in this case, with the payload on board, 1106 00:38:34,208 --> 00:38:35,500 we also had some sort of electrical 1107 00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:37,667 or digital corruption. 1108 00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:40,083 I got to tell you, Andy, that point is not wasted on us. 1109 00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:41,333 TRAVIS TAYLOR: No. 1110 00:38:41,458 --> 00:38:42,542 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: So we came prepared 1111 00:38:42,625 --> 00:38:43,750 for this, which is why we launched 1112 00:38:43,833 --> 00:38:45,875 a second rocket right from the cistern 1113 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,667 aiming at the same anomaly. 1114 00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:48,917 ERIK BARD: OK. 1115 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,333 [rocket whirring] 1116 00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:51,542 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Oh, that's massive. 1117 00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:52,833 ERIK BARD: That's gorgeous. 1118 00:38:52,917 --> 00:38:53,708 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Beautiful launch, man. 1119 00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:54,458 Love that. 1120 00:38:54,542 --> 00:38:55,750 PAUL BEBAN: Holy smokes. 1121 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:56,917 Wow. 1122 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,583 That is right over our heads. 1123 00:38:58,667 --> 00:39:01,708 So here's the live feed from inside the rocket. 1124 00:39:01,792 --> 00:39:03,250 ERIK BARD: Yes. Man, that's awesome. 1125 00:39:03,333 --> 00:39:04,083 The data is working. 1126 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:08,250 [rattling] 1127 00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:09,292 OK. 1128 00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:10,250 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Oh. Oh. 1129 00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:11,250 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1130 00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:12,333 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yep, right here. 1131 00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:13,083 There ERIK BARD: Right there. 1132 00:39:13,167 --> 00:39:14,000 There's a blip. 1133 00:39:14,042 --> 00:39:15,500 That gets my attention. 1134 00:39:15,583 --> 00:39:16,833 And, you know, the spectrum analyzer is interesting. 1135 00:39:16,917 --> 00:39:19,292 It went-- it had a 1.7, and it jumped to 1.4 1136 00:39:19,375 --> 00:39:21,458 when the trifield meter jumps. 1137 00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:22,375 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yes. 1138 00:39:22,458 --> 00:39:23,917 Now, that is interesting. 1139 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000 I don't know what the assignable cause for that 1140 00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:26,458 would be. 1141 00:39:26,542 --> 00:39:27,792 And we didn't have an explanation for it. 1142 00:39:27,792 --> 00:39:29,667 But where both of our minds took us was 1143 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:31,417 actually right back to this-- 1144 00:39:31,542 --> 00:39:34,708 this drawing from the remote viewing team. 1145 00:39:34,792 --> 00:39:38,333 Are we descending through some kind of dynamic anomaly? 1146 00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:40,125 ERIK BARD: Yes. 1147 00:39:40,208 --> 00:39:47,000 Now, let's assume that this is right in the peak location 1148 00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:50,542 that you were launching the rocket toward this weird thing 1149 00:39:50,625 --> 00:39:51,667 here. 1150 00:39:51,792 --> 00:39:54,708 Before it gets to that point, you're 1151 00:39:54,792 --> 00:40:00,167 seeing a 1.7 gigahertz signal on the spectrum analyzer. 1152 00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:04,333 And then instantly, at some point, we see a burst in the EMP 1153 00:40:04,458 --> 00:40:05,833 on the trifield meter. 1154 00:40:05,958 --> 00:40:10,667 You see it shift down to 1.423 gigahertz. 1155 00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:13,875 That would mean that you had a frequency change. 1156 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,625 And since frequency is telling you what changing energy is 1157 00:40:17,625 --> 00:40:19,917 happening, then that tells us that you 1158 00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,417 went through some sort of anomalous region 1159 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,917 that would be reminiscent of a portal. 1160 00:40:25,042 --> 00:40:27,250 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: I mean, to hear you talk about some sort 1161 00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:31,167 of portal behavior that is stacked above the landing site 1162 00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:34,958 that Katie remembers as a child, that is in line with the area 1163 00:40:35,042 --> 00:40:37,417 that the ranch animals don't want to go to, 1164 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,167 that is also in line with where we 1165 00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:42,583 lost magnetometer data from the Terra Exploration Team. 1166 00:40:42,667 --> 00:40:45,000 I mean, this seems like too many things happening 1167 00:40:45,125 --> 00:40:47,958 in one 70 foot diameter circle. 1168 00:40:47,958 --> 00:40:48,667 PAUL BEBAN: Right. 1169 00:40:48,792 --> 00:40:50,500 Like a pillar through sky. 1170 00:40:50,625 --> 00:40:53,792 I was just thinking, I was just picturing this as a column. 1171 00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:57,333 TRAVIS TAYLOR: But you know what it reminds me of, Eric? 1172 00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,750 The circle-- ERIK BARD: The circle. 1173 00:40:58,833 --> 00:41:00,708 --from the LiDAR data that we got this year. 1174 00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:03,833 We measured a donut about 50 feet in the air. 1175 00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:06,792 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: There is a ring of data. 1176 00:41:06,875 --> 00:41:08,583 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Yes, it looks like a donut. 1177 00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,417 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Yep. 1178 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:12,875 TRAVIS TAYLOR: What in the actual crap? 1179 00:41:12,958 --> 00:41:15,583 That looks just like the LiDAR data we took the summer, 1180 00:41:15,708 --> 00:41:17,333 and it's freaking me out. 1181 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:18,708 ANDY BUSTAMENTE: That's interesting. 1182 00:41:18,792 --> 00:41:20,625 It is absolutely freaking me out. 1183 00:41:20,708 --> 00:41:23,542 What we have found here with this return 1184 00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:27,917 to Rocky Mountain Ranch is that this landing site could really 1185 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,833 hold the key to whatever else is happening on the entire ranch. 1186 00:41:31,875 --> 00:41:33,333 We're not done. 1187 00:41:33,458 --> 00:41:35,208 After two visits, we're still not 1188 00:41:35,292 --> 00:41:36,667 done at Rocky Mountain Ranch. 1189 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:37,333 Right. 1190 00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:38,958 ERIK BARD: Yeah. 1191 00:41:39,042 --> 00:41:41,333 So we'll do some planning, and we'll see you again soon. 1192 00:41:41,417 --> 00:41:42,167 All right, man. 1193 00:41:42,208 --> 00:41:43,000 Great work. 1194 00:41:43,167 --> 00:41:44,625 Fantastic work, guys. 1195 00:41:44,625 --> 00:41:45,667 Thank you for that. ANDY BUSTAMENTE: Thank you. 1196 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:46,917 TRAVIS TAYLOR: Good stuff. 1197 00:41:47,042 --> 00:41:49,958 [music playing]