1 00:00:03,172 --> 00:00:05,034 [Michael] We're a weekend out from trial. 2 00:00:06,275 --> 00:00:07,689 Look. 3 00:00:08,689 --> 00:00:10,241 We know what the prosecution's gonna do. 4 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:12,379 We know what the state's gonna do. 5 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:13,482 We know what they're gonna throw us. 6 00:00:13,482 --> 00:00:14,896 We know when they're gonna throw it. 7 00:00:14,896 --> 00:00:16,379 We know how they're gonna throw it. 8 00:00:16,379 --> 00:00:17,724 We know how fast it's gonna go. 9 00:00:17,724 --> 00:00:20,172 We know everything about their game plan. 10 00:00:20,172 --> 00:00:23,172 We know where their game plan's gonna end up. 11 00:00:23,172 --> 00:00:25,068 They think we don't know it's gonna end up over there. We do. 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,344 We're gonna be there waiting for it. 13 00:00:28,172 --> 00:00:32,586 So when they toss us a little softball, we know. 14 00:00:33,689 --> 00:00:34,758 Michael's right here. 15 00:00:35,482 --> 00:00:36,758 Crush it. 16 00:00:40,896 --> 00:00:42,586 And that'll be it. 17 00:01:08,620 --> 00:01:12,068 I have already lost everything in my life once. 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,896 If you were to show up here right here, right now, 19 00:01:14,896 --> 00:01:18,482 and you were to tell me that you've got my youngest son, Ethan 20 00:01:18,482 --> 00:01:23,620 and my middle son, Wesley, in your car with you right now, 21 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:27,586 and you were to tell me, "Mr. Barnett, you can see them for five minutes. 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,517 You can smile. You can hug your children. 23 00:01:31,517 --> 00:01:36,586 It's only for five minutes, but to do it, you need to cut your arm off." 24 00:01:37,723 --> 00:01:39,793 I'm not even gonna hesitate. Where's the machete? 25 00:01:40,896 --> 00:01:42,275 [stutters] I will... 26 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:45,172 I will do anything if I could... 27 00:01:48,413 --> 00:01:50,241 Sorry, I'm gonna get upset. I am. 28 00:01:51,723 --> 00:01:53,344 [sniffs] 29 00:01:54,103 --> 00:01:56,551 [grunts] 30 00:01:57,723 --> 00:02:01,482 When this first started, every single night that I lied awake, 31 00:02:01,482 --> 00:02:05,413 I would be picturing every single second in jail. 32 00:02:05,413 --> 00:02:08,378 I'd be going through everything I ever heard of jail. 33 00:02:08,378 --> 00:02:10,482 I'd be Googling, "Hey, what's jail really like?" 34 00:02:10,482 --> 00:02:12,206 and reading the horror stories. 35 00:02:12,206 --> 00:02:14,275 What is at risk? 36 00:02:15,172 --> 00:02:17,551 Everything. Everything. 37 00:02:20,724 --> 00:02:23,793 Sorry about throwing it. I am a thrower when I get mad. 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,172 I'm innocent. As long as the truth all comes out, 39 00:02:34,172 --> 00:02:36,965 I have nothing to run and hide from. 40 00:02:39,310 --> 00:02:44,241 But Kristine, she has hidden a lot of things. 41 00:02:46,067 --> 00:02:49,620 During discovery, while the police are gathering their evidence, 42 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:51,724 requesting evidence and whatnot, 43 00:02:51,724 --> 00:02:54,275 they subpoenaed Kristine's entire Facebook history. 44 00:02:54,275 --> 00:02:55,517 Every message she's ever sent. 45 00:02:55,517 --> 00:02:57,206 Every post she's ever made, et cetera. 46 00:02:57,206 --> 00:02:59,172 As part of discovery, my attorney asked me, 47 00:02:59,172 --> 00:03:01,724 "Hey, go through this, and just make sure 48 00:03:01,724 --> 00:03:05,379 there's no landmines that we should be aware of." 49 00:03:05,379 --> 00:03:11,000 So I'm just searching through. There's a name that pops up that I'm just not expecting. 50 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,689 Somebody that brought their kid to our daycare in about 2006-ish. 51 00:03:15,689 --> 00:03:18,896 I know the guy's married, and these are extremely inappropriate, 52 00:03:18,896 --> 00:03:21,551 sexual-nature conversation. 53 00:03:22,896 --> 00:03:25,758 A lot of masturbating together. 54 00:03:26,724 --> 00:03:29,517 "I wanna have three-ways with you and my wife. 55 00:03:29,517 --> 00:03:34,448 Can you reach out to my wife for me and invite her?" 56 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:39,241 And I hit the floor crying. 57 00:03:42,517 --> 00:03:45,586 And then I see all about the handyman 58 00:03:45,586 --> 00:03:47,517 and all about her making out with him 59 00:03:47,517 --> 00:03:51,413 and all about her taking him to a parking lot, leaving the kids at home 60 00:03:51,413 --> 00:03:55,793 and having sex with him in the local McDonald's and Tim Horton's parking lots. 61 00:03:55,793 --> 00:03:58,241 Who does this? 62 00:03:59,724 --> 00:04:04,034 ♪ Here comes the ladies' man ♪ 63 00:04:05,724 --> 00:04:10,034 ♪ Watch out he's a ladies' man ♪ 64 00:04:11,896 --> 00:04:14,000 [Fred] My name is Fred Gill. 65 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,206 I was a celebrity in the country music business. 66 00:04:17,206 --> 00:04:21,000 The thing about being on tour is the lady factor. 67 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,482 Man, I... [laughs] 68 00:04:22,482 --> 00:04:25,448 Let's just say that I... I soaked all that up. 69 00:04:26,517 --> 00:04:30,724 ♪ Oh he's a ladies' man ♪ 70 00:04:30,724 --> 00:04:32,689 [Fred] Good girl. 71 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:37,413 Kristine reached out to me over Messenger 72 00:04:37,413 --> 00:04:40,586 because they had just adopted Natalia. 73 00:04:40,586 --> 00:04:44,517 And so Kristine had some questions for me about little people 74 00:04:44,517 --> 00:04:49,448 and sought some advice, and I was more than happy to share that with her. 75 00:04:50,517 --> 00:04:52,620 Our conversations started off very benign, 76 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:55,793 and then pretty quickly turned into a chain of messages 77 00:04:55,793 --> 00:04:58,793 that were of a sexual nature. 78 00:05:01,517 --> 00:05:05,482 Kristine tried to entice me into corresponding more 79 00:05:05,482 --> 00:05:09,620 by putting herself out there physically. 80 00:05:09,620 --> 00:05:12,517 There's multiple, multiple messages. 81 00:05:12,517 --> 00:05:15,206 Quite a bit more graphic back and forth 82 00:05:15,206 --> 00:05:18,551 about the kind of things we were gonna do sexually. 83 00:05:22,413 --> 00:05:24,758 It's upside down. She sent that picture. 84 00:05:26,482 --> 00:05:30,068 Talks about the fact that she didn't really see me as small, 85 00:05:30,068 --> 00:05:32,103 that she treated me like everybody else. 86 00:05:32,103 --> 00:05:37,000 I go on talking about my manhood being larger than average. 87 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,379 I asked her if she liked oral. 88 00:05:39,379 --> 00:05:41,482 And she said, "Depends on if the guy's any good at it." 89 00:05:41,482 --> 00:05:45,206 I told her about how I had an ex-girlfriend just about kick me across the room 90 00:05:45,206 --> 00:05:47,758 because I was giving her so many orgasms in a row. 91 00:05:52,724 --> 00:05:55,517 Eventually, I was called by a state police investigator, 92 00:05:55,517 --> 00:05:59,482 asking me about the messages between Kristine and I. 93 00:06:03,172 --> 00:06:06,724 So, I find out about this long after divorce, 94 00:06:06,724 --> 00:06:12,000 with a woman that I truly cannot even fathom communicating with. 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,137 I'm robbed of my ability to confront her on this. 96 00:06:21,482 --> 00:06:23,862 [cries] I'm still not ready to stand up to her. 97 00:06:25,310 --> 00:06:27,344 And I'm not ready to... 98 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,586 I hate this. 99 00:06:34,517 --> 00:06:35,724 I hate this. 100 00:06:35,724 --> 00:06:38,793 I hate this. I want this to stop. 101 00:06:49,793 --> 00:06:51,551 [sobs] 102 00:06:57,620 --> 00:06:59,896 About two-and-a-half years after my divorce, 103 00:06:59,896 --> 00:07:03,000 Jennifer and I found each other. 104 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,310 Jennifer- God bless her- pulls me up, yells at me like a soldier. 105 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:10,172 She is an angel and a rockstar at the same time, 106 00:07:10,172 --> 00:07:13,310 and she basically gets me back on track, 107 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:15,862 and that's really important and valuable. 108 00:07:23,379 --> 00:07:26,172 I am so emotionally fragile and delicate. 109 00:07:26,172 --> 00:07:28,379 It's such a house of cards right now. 110 00:07:30,068 --> 00:07:33,344 I few months ago, [sighs] I had a breakdown. 111 00:07:34,379 --> 00:07:36,793 I had a mental breakdown. 112 00:07:36,793 --> 00:07:38,724 All the pressure and all the weight 113 00:07:38,724 --> 00:07:42,275 and all the constant inability to sleep, 114 00:07:42,275 --> 00:07:46,000 inability to rest, inability to live just all came crashing down. 115 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,310 This is all getting closer and closer and closer, 116 00:07:48,310 --> 00:07:49,620 and it's getting tense and tense. 117 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:52,793 I checked myself into the hospital in June. 118 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,655 I have no problem talking about this. 119 00:07:55,655 --> 00:07:58,724 I might get emotional over it, but I truly don't have trouble talking about it. 120 00:07:58,724 --> 00:08:00,896 Um... 121 00:08:00,896 --> 00:08:05,586 It was as close as I've been to a third suicide attempt 122 00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:07,689 since the second one. 123 00:08:08,724 --> 00:08:11,586 And it's been 18 years since then. 124 00:08:11,586 --> 00:08:12,862 It... 125 00:08:14,172 --> 00:08:16,241 I have panic attacks all day long. 126 00:08:16,896 --> 00:08:19,034 I have anxiety attacks all day long. 127 00:08:21,275 --> 00:08:22,896 Where we are, at my attorney's office, 128 00:08:22,896 --> 00:08:25,724 this is the only place I feel myself anymore. 129 00:08:25,724 --> 00:08:28,620 This is the only place that I feel comfortable and confident, 130 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:32,379 and I don't feel like somebody might be coming to attack me. 131 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:34,379 I don't feel safe almost anywhere anymore. 132 00:08:34,379 --> 00:08:38,895 There's always a potential of some random reporter banging on my door 133 00:08:38,895 --> 00:08:42,895 and shouting my name, "Michael Barnett, we know you're in there. Come out!" 134 00:08:42,895 --> 00:08:45,689 [reporters shouting indistinctly] 135 00:08:45,689 --> 00:08:47,586 [female newsreader] It's the story that captured the world's attention. 136 00:08:47,586 --> 00:08:49,068 The bizarre case of child neglect. 137 00:08:49,068 --> 00:08:50,482 The parents from Indianapolis 138 00:08:50,482 --> 00:08:53,068 accused of abandoning their adopted daughter in an apartment. 139 00:08:54,586 --> 00:08:56,896 [female newsreader] The Barnett's will have separate trials, 140 00:08:56,896 --> 00:08:59,551 with Michael's just days away. 141 00:09:00,586 --> 00:09:01,689 So, you think they should go to jail? 142 00:09:01,689 --> 00:09:04,275 I feel like I was already robbed of my childhood. 143 00:09:04,275 --> 00:09:08,000 But when I got re-aged, that's when it really hit hard. 144 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,517 It's not right to do that to a child. 145 00:09:10,517 --> 00:09:15,068 They should do their time, get it over with, and get right with God. 146 00:09:16,379 --> 00:09:19,896 Michael's trial is coming up, and the judge is ruling 147 00:09:19,896 --> 00:09:24,172 that despite this DNA evidence, age still can't be mentioned, 148 00:09:24,172 --> 00:09:26,379 and that's a big blow to the prosecution 149 00:09:26,379 --> 00:09:31,517 because a lot of their counts had to do with the abandonment 150 00:09:31,517 --> 00:09:33,103 and neglect of a child. 151 00:09:33,103 --> 00:09:38,000 And everything became now abandonment and neglect of a disabled person, 152 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,620 not a child. 153 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:44,793 Is this trial gonna answer all the questions? No. 154 00:09:44,793 --> 00:09:48,103 The judge has limited the evidence that the jury can hear. 155 00:09:48,103 --> 00:09:53,448 They're not gonna know that Natalia was reaged from eight to 22. 156 00:09:55,379 --> 00:09:57,000 [man] Now, when you were in Lafayette, 157 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,896 you didn't report that you were being neglected. 158 00:09:59,896 --> 00:10:03,551 No 'cause I didn't know... I didn't even know what that meant. 159 00:10:04,793 --> 00:10:07,517 But you didn't know that... You didn't report that, "Hey," 160 00:10:07,517 --> 00:10:11,103 you were left alone, and you don't know what you're doing? 161 00:10:11,103 --> 00:10:14,275 Yes 'cause I didn't know that I could call the police and tell them that. 162 00:10:14,275 --> 00:10:17,103 [man] So, the things that the police said that you said, 163 00:10:17,103 --> 00:10:19,344 you're saying they're lying about that, right? 164 00:10:20,379 --> 00:10:21,862 -Yes. -[man] Okay. 165 00:10:21,862 --> 00:10:26,206 And the things that the field case managers said that you said, 166 00:10:26,206 --> 00:10:27,655 they're lying about that, too? 167 00:10:28,724 --> 00:10:30,448 Yes. 168 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:39,620 [Terrance] Mike, come on in. How you feeling? 169 00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:43,000 Um, [bleep] great. 170 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,724 -Sure. -I'm ready to whoop some ass. 171 00:10:44,724 --> 00:10:50,172 I'm walking into battle where I need certain types of experts, and I've got them. 172 00:10:50,172 --> 00:10:54,275 [Terrance] And so those things are all true, but what I wanna talk about 173 00:10:54,275 --> 00:10:57,482 is the people on the other table are not your [bleep] friend. 174 00:10:57,482 --> 00:11:00,896 -This is a battle. This is a boxing match. -Yep. 175 00:11:00,896 --> 00:11:05,275 [Terrance] This is pugilism. You have to punch and get punched. 176 00:11:05,275 --> 00:11:06,689 [Michael] I can take a lot of punches, man. 177 00:11:06,689 --> 00:11:08,655 A hundred jury trials under my belt. 178 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,000 One thing has always been true 179 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,379 regardless of the criminal offence. 180 00:11:16,379 --> 00:11:20,896 It's gonna come down to do the jurors like you? 181 00:11:20,896 --> 00:11:22,793 "Was Michael a good parent?" 182 00:11:22,793 --> 00:11:24,275 "Was Michael a good person?" 183 00:11:24,275 --> 00:11:28,689 "Did Michael Barnett abandon his 23-year-old daughter?" 184 00:11:28,689 --> 00:11:30,000 -You're being judged. -Ugh. 185 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,275 Because remember, the question is... 186 00:11:31,275 --> 00:11:32,724 -Just the phrase. I'm being judged. -"Did Michael Barnett 187 00:11:32,724 --> 00:11:34,724 abandon his 23-year-old daughter?" 188 00:11:34,724 --> 00:11:39,517 The jury is looking to see if you host those negative qualities. 189 00:11:39,517 --> 00:11:41,793 The biggest part is they're gonna listen to your daughter. 190 00:11:42,689 --> 00:11:44,344 And they're gonna listen to what she has to say. 191 00:11:45,482 --> 00:11:47,758 "In my opinion, Michael Barnett's a piece of [bleep]." 192 00:11:48,896 --> 00:11:52,000 How are you gonna respond to that in front of those 12 people? 193 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,620 I have been practicing for this moment for a decade. 194 00:11:56,620 --> 00:12:00,517 I have put myself through the ringer in my head every night 195 00:12:00,517 --> 00:12:01,482 since we started having trouble. 196 00:12:01,482 --> 00:12:02,758 [Terrance] Let me ask you this. 197 00:12:03,517 --> 00:12:05,482 How do you feel about Natalia? 198 00:12:05,482 --> 00:12:08,172 Natalia's a human being. Flesh and blood. 199 00:12:08,172 --> 00:12:11,000 Thinking, caring, feeling, emoting person. 200 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,793 Right? Just like you. Just like me. 201 00:12:12,793 --> 00:12:17,206 -You know, I didn't hear you say, "I love her." -No, you didn't. 202 00:12:17,206 --> 00:12:20,103 Let me ask you a question with an anti-answer, 203 00:12:20,103 --> 00:12:21,586 so not so much how do I feel about her, 204 00:12:21,586 --> 00:12:23,379 but how do I not feel about her? 205 00:12:23,379 --> 00:12:26,310 There's not gonna be hate. 206 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:28,482 There's not gonna be anger. 207 00:12:30,172 --> 00:12:34,482 [Terrance] I've been a part of cases where, you know, 208 00:12:34,482 --> 00:12:38,586 it looks really good, and then it turns on an issue, 209 00:12:38,586 --> 00:12:42,103 and the case that I thought wasn't very good ends up prevailing. 210 00:12:42,103 --> 00:12:44,103 Basically, what I'm trying to say in a nice way 211 00:12:44,103 --> 00:12:45,724 is sometimes, you can have a great case, 212 00:12:45,724 --> 00:12:49,448 the state can have a [bleep] case, the state still wins. 213 00:12:51,793 --> 00:12:53,275 [whispers] Yeah. 214 00:13:09,379 --> 00:13:11,517 [Terrance] Here's the deal for the lawyers. 215 00:13:11,517 --> 00:13:14,413 This is only about Michael. 216 00:13:14,413 --> 00:13:19,379 It is imperative that you not bring up Kristine. 217 00:13:19,379 --> 00:13:21,310 We're not defending Kristine Barnett. 218 00:13:21,310 --> 00:13:23,379 We'll only be saying, "Michael Barnett, 219 00:13:23,379 --> 00:13:26,275 Michael Barnett, Michael Barnett." 220 00:13:26,275 --> 00:13:30,896 The parameters of this thing is, "Did Michael Barnett 221 00:13:30,896 --> 00:13:35,068 neglect his 23-year-old daughter?" 222 00:13:35,068 --> 00:13:39,275 If you're a juror, and you're hearing that this person's incapable, 223 00:13:39,275 --> 00:13:44,517 would it be helpful to you to see her capabilities in a multitude of areas? 224 00:13:44,517 --> 00:13:48,620 So, we have different video clips. 225 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:50,620 Let's play it. Let's discuss it. 226 00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:52,068 And let's see what we got. 227 00:13:52,068 --> 00:13:55,068 [Riley] Natalia Barnett running without assistance in 2011. 228 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:57,413 That's gonna be a good one. 229 00:13:57,413 --> 00:13:58,413 This is at your house, Michael? 230 00:13:58,413 --> 00:14:00,068 [Michael] This is at my house in Westfield. 231 00:14:00,068 --> 00:14:03,862 This is after the first attempt at Kristine. 232 00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:06,482 [Riley] She's moving. 233 00:14:06,482 --> 00:14:07,793 [Michael] It's what she's able to do. 234 00:14:07,793 --> 00:14:09,793 What we use that for is to show 235 00:14:09,793 --> 00:14:13,413 that the diminished capacity that they're speaking of in Lafayette 236 00:14:13,413 --> 00:14:16,275 seems to be kind of an apparition 237 00:14:16,275 --> 00:14:18,793 because she was totally capable prior. 238 00:14:18,793 --> 00:14:23,103 And nothing in her life changed other than her geographical location. 239 00:14:23,103 --> 00:14:24,448 Next video. 240 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:26,862 [Riley] Trash can. Bringing it in. 241 00:14:29,413 --> 00:14:31,965 -It's not even on wheels. -[Michael] No, it's not! 242 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 [Terrance] Put that doughnut down. 243 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,310 Put that down. Put that down. Put it down. 244 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:41,379 -But why? -Put it down. Do me a favor. Put it down. 245 00:14:41,379 --> 00:14:43,413 [laughter] 246 00:14:43,413 --> 00:14:45,275 -Yes, just drop it. Drop it. -[laughter] 247 00:14:45,275 --> 00:14:46,689 [Vincent] Man, give me my doughnut back. 248 00:14:46,689 --> 00:14:48,896 -I didn't take your doughnut. -Hold on. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet. 249 00:14:48,896 --> 00:14:50,310 -Stop. Stop. -You can eat, but you can't talk. 250 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:53,000 We have important issues, guys. 251 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,379 We need to stay, you know, focused and not get arrogant 252 00:14:57,379 --> 00:14:59,275 because we have a strong case. 253 00:14:59,275 --> 00:15:01,482 We're in a trial. I'm trying to kick this girl's ass. 254 00:15:01,482 --> 00:15:04,137 I'm not trying to be your [bleep] friend. 255 00:15:06,103 --> 00:15:10,482 Natalia's age, if, indeed, she was only eight years old, 256 00:15:10,482 --> 00:15:13,413 her knowledge wasn't there. 257 00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:16,206 [Mark] Well, she wasn't eight years old. She was an adult. 258 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,000 This sounds like you're trying to make excuses 259 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,206 for a woman who dumped her child. 260 00:15:20,206 --> 00:15:22,896 Well, Kyna, that's his job, so-- 261 00:15:22,896 --> 00:15:24,172 [Mark] No, no. Hold on. Hold on, Jackie. 262 00:15:24,172 --> 00:15:26,620 That's not my job, to make excuses, ma'am. 263 00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:30,310 Stop calling me ma'am. My name is Miss Weaver or Kyna. 264 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:32,413 You can call me either or. 265 00:15:32,413 --> 00:15:35,034 Hey, you need to stay out of this. You're not part of this. 266 00:15:35,896 --> 00:15:37,137 Hey. Stop it. 267 00:15:39,793 --> 00:15:42,000 The Barnetts, what they did is wrong. 268 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,103 They're a disgrace. I think that they're crooks. 269 00:15:46,103 --> 00:15:49,068 How dare you play with a human being's life? 270 00:15:49,896 --> 00:15:52,206 What the [bleep] were you thinking? 271 00:15:52,206 --> 00:15:55,034 You know, it'd be nice to see some... 272 00:15:56,482 --> 00:15:58,517 Some vengeance, some justice for that. 273 00:15:58,517 --> 00:16:01,310 I hope my testimony can reveal the truth. 274 00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:04,000 I hope my testimony can help Natalia. 275 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,068 [sniffs and clears throat] 276 00:16:06,068 --> 00:16:08,620 I hope she can heal from this. 277 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:14,172 Because she's had a lot of people, professionals, even, let her down. 278 00:16:14,172 --> 00:16:18,620 [scoffs] She needs a wing over her, and she needs protecting 279 00:16:18,620 --> 00:16:21,586 because she's up against a lot. 280 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:41,448 [Michael] Today is the day. 281 00:16:42,379 --> 00:16:45,206 I'm getting ready to face my destiny. 282 00:16:45,206 --> 00:16:47,344 A lot of things going through my mind right now. 283 00:16:48,586 --> 00:16:51,241 Almost a sense of relief that it's here. 284 00:16:52,793 --> 00:16:58,379 In an hour, literally an hour, I'll be sitting in front of the judge, 285 00:16:58,379 --> 00:17:00,137 and it's game time. 286 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,275 I'm on stage. 287 00:17:02,275 --> 00:17:06,482 My role is gonna be innocent-looking guy sitting still. 288 00:17:06,482 --> 00:17:08,241 Just... 289 00:17:13,378 --> 00:17:14,964 Ah... 290 00:17:31,379 --> 00:17:34,275 I'm Traci Grant outside Tippecanoe County Courthouse 291 00:17:34,275 --> 00:17:37,689 for day one of the Michael Barnett trial. 292 00:17:38,689 --> 00:17:40,379 It's a simple question. 293 00:17:40,379 --> 00:17:45,862 Did Michael Barnett abandon his 24-year-old daughter? 294 00:17:48,413 --> 00:17:51,000 [Judith] The Barnetts have to be held accountable. 295 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,689 You should be ashamed of yourself. 296 00:17:52,689 --> 00:17:56,517 You put someone through hell. 297 00:17:56,517 --> 00:17:59,068 And it was a child that you put through hell, 298 00:17:59,068 --> 00:18:03,896 who already had a disability and issues and obstacles 299 00:18:03,896 --> 00:18:06,310 that she was gonna have to overcome, 300 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:08,000 and you put her through hell. 301 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,689 Good people don't do that. 302 00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:13,586 If there's no justice to what happened to her, 303 00:18:13,586 --> 00:18:18,000 then she'll feel like she doesn't matter, and that's not true. 304 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,896 I pray that Natalia has the justice that she seeks, 305 00:18:20,896 --> 00:18:25,068 the truth comes out, and all will understand, 306 00:18:25,068 --> 00:18:28,172 and that God is with her every step of the way. 307 00:18:28,172 --> 00:18:30,586 Amen, and so it be. 308 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:36,379 [Traci] A global audience is eagerly awaiting the outcome 309 00:18:36,379 --> 00:18:38,620 of one of the biggest trials of the year. 310 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:43,689 But due to Indiana state law, cameras are not permitted inside the courtroom 311 00:18:43,689 --> 00:18:46,379 during the trial. 312 00:18:46,379 --> 00:18:49,517 Today, jurors heard from the manager of the apartment building 313 00:18:49,517 --> 00:18:51,379 where the Barnetts placed Natalia. 314 00:18:51,379 --> 00:18:54,793 Prosecutors tried to prove not enough was done 315 00:18:54,793 --> 00:18:57,586 for her to live her daily life comfortably. 316 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,896 Detective Brandon Davenport says Michael had a lot to say 317 00:19:07,896 --> 00:19:12,448 about how Kristine Barnett and Natalia were constantly at odds. 318 00:19:27,206 --> 00:19:32,275 [Beth] Hearing that comment, that Kristine said Lafayette is a white trash town, 319 00:19:32,275 --> 00:19:35,517 no one's gonna care about her, is not good for the defense. 320 00:19:35,517 --> 00:19:37,172 Michael's associated with Kristine. 321 00:19:37,172 --> 00:19:38,379 That's his wife at the time. 322 00:19:38,379 --> 00:19:39,965 So, yeah, that's not good. 323 00:19:55,068 --> 00:19:57,068 I got a call from my office staff 324 00:19:57,068 --> 00:19:59,068 telling me that this article hit the paper. 325 00:19:59,068 --> 00:20:03,172 One of the witnesses claimed that Michael allegedly made this statement to him, 326 00:20:03,172 --> 00:20:06,620 that they were leaving Natalia here in Lafayette because it's a white trash town. 327 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:08,896 And now it's in the paper. 328 00:20:08,896 --> 00:20:11,000 We gotta figure out how to deal with this [bleep]. 329 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,620 We got the entire city pissed off at my client. 330 00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:17,517 I think once he understands the gravity of what's going on, 331 00:20:17,517 --> 00:20:20,172 I'm pretty sure he's gonna decompose a little bit. 332 00:20:20,172 --> 00:20:21,517 He's gonna break down a little bit. 333 00:20:21,517 --> 00:20:24,758 This was a [bleep] tsunami. We gotta swim our way out of this. 334 00:20:26,482 --> 00:20:28,586 This changes everything. 335 00:20:34,241 --> 00:20:37,448 [Traci] Day three of the state of Indiana versus Michael Barnett 336 00:20:37,448 --> 00:20:41,586 brought the star witness, Natalia Barnett, to the courtroom. 337 00:20:41,586 --> 00:20:44,448 Using a walker, Natalia was helped onto the stand 338 00:20:44,448 --> 00:20:46,379 to face the man who adopted her 339 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:49,551 and allegedly abandoned her two years later. 340 00:20:49,551 --> 00:20:50,896 Good morning. 341 00:20:50,896 --> 00:20:54,275 Prosecutors gave Natalia room to describe her medical condition 342 00:20:54,275 --> 00:20:56,137 and how much pain it causes her. 343 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,689 The biggest bombshell in the courtroom 344 00:20:58,689 --> 00:21:04,689 was when Kinnard asked Natalia her birth date, and she had to say 1989. 345 00:21:04,689 --> 00:21:10,137 That reinforced the fact that this case was not going to be based on age. 346 00:21:12,034 --> 00:21:16,068 Towards the end of her testimony, Natalia broke down in tears. 347 00:21:16,068 --> 00:21:20,137 Natalia was the last witness in the prosecution's case-in-chief. 348 00:21:20,137 --> 00:21:22,689 And when she was cross-examined by Michael's attorney, 349 00:21:22,689 --> 00:21:24,448 she was asked a series of questions 350 00:21:24,448 --> 00:21:26,586 where she couldn't remember the answers, 351 00:21:26,586 --> 00:21:30,586 and she was chided and challenged and criticized for not remembering. 352 00:21:30,586 --> 00:21:35,586 But jurors don't know that Anna Gava is Natalia's biological mother 353 00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:38,344 and that Natalia was born in 2003. 354 00:21:38,344 --> 00:21:40,482 So these questions she's being asked 355 00:21:40,482 --> 00:21:42,241 and details she doesn't remember 356 00:21:42,241 --> 00:21:46,793 involve times when she was six, seven, eight, nine years old. 357 00:21:46,793 --> 00:21:50,172 No wonder she doesn't remember. 358 00:21:50,172 --> 00:21:54,689 I can't wrap my head around the fact that jurors don't know 359 00:21:54,689 --> 00:22:00,551 the most fundamental fact in this whole saga, 360 00:22:00,551 --> 00:22:05,862 and that is how old is Natalia Barnett, really? 361 00:22:10,344 --> 00:22:12,275 [Traci] After closing arguments were completed, 362 00:22:12,275 --> 00:22:16,689 observers in the courtroom said it seemed like a draw, it could go either way. 363 00:22:16,689 --> 00:22:19,413 And now it's in the hands of the jury. 364 00:22:30,172 --> 00:22:31,655 A little upsetting. 365 00:22:32,586 --> 00:22:36,137 Because she should have been my granddaughter, 366 00:22:36,137 --> 00:22:38,655 and she didn't end up being my granddaughter. 367 00:22:45,068 --> 00:22:47,137 One o'clock on a Thursday, why not? 368 00:22:57,448 --> 00:22:59,275 -I know. -[laughter] 369 00:22:59,275 --> 00:23:03,586 Everything that they said in their case was, "Kristine, Kristine, Kristine, Kristine. 370 00:23:03,586 --> 00:23:05,896 Michael wasn't really that bad." 371 00:23:05,896 --> 00:23:07,689 They'll go get her ass. 372 00:23:07,689 --> 00:23:09,586 [Terrance] Every jury is different, 373 00:23:09,586 --> 00:23:13,241 There's no commonality other than their assigned task- 374 00:23:13,241 --> 00:23:15,413 listen to this information, and make a decision. 375 00:23:17,344 --> 00:23:20,689 -[bleep] hate this [bleep]. -[laughter] 376 00:23:20,689 --> 00:23:24,793 Nationwide, prosecutors win 98% of their cases. 377 00:23:24,793 --> 00:23:28,896 Yeah, most of them plea, but they also win about the same percentage of trials. 378 00:23:28,896 --> 00:23:30,586 Trials are [bleep] hard to win. 379 00:23:30,586 --> 00:23:33,241 Don't go telling me that [bleep] now. 380 00:23:33,241 --> 00:23:36,068 Where was this 98% stuff three years ago? 381 00:23:36,068 --> 00:23:38,586 You were told. You had no choice. 382 00:23:38,586 --> 00:23:40,793 Now the worry can really begin. 383 00:23:40,793 --> 00:23:42,448 [clock ticking] 384 00:23:45,241 --> 00:23:46,758 [Terrance] What you got here? 385 00:23:48,379 --> 00:23:50,344 That looks like pepperoni. 386 00:23:50,344 --> 00:23:52,034 [clock ticking] 387 00:24:02,586 --> 00:24:05,275 [Michael] I think it might be worthy to speak a little bit 388 00:24:05,275 --> 00:24:07,034 about the judge. 389 00:24:07,034 --> 00:24:09,344 He was probably the best judge for this case. 390 00:24:09,344 --> 00:24:13,896 His temperament is even. He gives both sides respect. 391 00:24:13,896 --> 00:24:16,275 -[phone rings] -Oh, my, God. Damn it. That's my heart. 392 00:24:16,275 --> 00:24:18,551 -[phone continues ringing] -Oh, that's the court. 393 00:24:18,551 --> 00:24:20,758 -[man] Is it? -I'll put it on speaker. 394 00:24:22,793 --> 00:24:24,068 Hi, it's Terrance. 395 00:24:24,068 --> 00:24:25,344 [woman on phone] Hi, Mr. Kinnard. 396 00:24:25,344 --> 00:24:28,000 It's Ashley from Superior Court II. We have a verdict. 397 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,793 [Terrance] Not a question? 398 00:24:29,793 --> 00:24:32,000 [Ashley on phone] Not a question, a verdict. 399 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,689 Okay. I'm gonna go vomit, and then I'll be right there. 400 00:24:34,689 --> 00:24:36,137 [Ashley on phone] Okay. Bye. 401 00:24:37,034 --> 00:24:38,793 -[hang-up tone] -Oh, [bleep]. 402 00:24:38,793 --> 00:24:40,689 [laughs] 403 00:24:40,689 --> 00:24:42,793 -That was quick. -[sighs] 404 00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:43,965 Quick is bad. 405 00:24:50,034 --> 00:24:51,344 Let's do it. 406 00:24:51,344 --> 00:24:53,206 Yes, sir. 407 00:24:55,241 --> 00:24:59,551 That icy numbness can wash all over me. I can't think. I can't feel. 408 00:24:59,551 --> 00:25:01,034 [exhales] 409 00:25:01,034 --> 00:25:03,034 [door opens and shuts] 410 00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:04,896 [footsteps approaching] 411 00:25:04,896 --> 00:25:07,068 I don't have words. 412 00:25:07,068 --> 00:25:08,551 -I just don't. Hi. -Hi, sweetie. 413 00:25:08,551 --> 00:25:10,655 -How are you? -I know. 414 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,172 [Terrance] It's in the hands of the jury. 415 00:25:16,172 --> 00:25:18,551 Nothing you can do to change it. 416 00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:19,862 It's done. 417 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,241 [Traci] Jury deliberations have concluded 418 00:25:29,241 --> 00:25:33,310 in the Michael Barnett trial, reaching a verdict in just a couple of hours. 419 00:25:39,137 --> 00:25:41,172 [elevator dings] 420 00:25:43,758 --> 00:25:45,379 -I'm going up to four. -Okay. 421 00:25:45,379 --> 00:25:47,000 See you up there. 422 00:25:51,275 --> 00:25:53,862 There's not anything you can do. 423 00:25:53,862 --> 00:25:55,000 [exhales] 424 00:25:56,586 --> 00:25:58,137 You know what? We just finished this case. 425 00:25:58,137 --> 00:26:00,965 We didn't... We're not allowed to talk about adoption. 426 00:26:00,965 --> 00:26:02,241 We're not allowed to talk about age. 427 00:26:02,241 --> 00:26:04,275 We're not allowed to talk about mental health records. 428 00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:07,034 We're not allowed to talk about her stating to us 429 00:26:07,034 --> 00:26:08,586 and saying she wants to kill us. 430 00:26:08,586 --> 00:26:10,689 We're not allowed to talk about the statement saying 431 00:26:10,689 --> 00:26:13,172 that she didn't wanna be around us anymore. 432 00:26:13,172 --> 00:26:17,965 We're coming down to the teeniest circumstantial evidence 433 00:26:17,965 --> 00:26:19,344 from 12 years ago. 434 00:26:21,103 --> 00:26:22,344 [exhales] 435 00:26:34,275 --> 00:26:35,241 [elevator dings] 436 00:27:18,655 --> 00:27:20,862 [sobs] 437 00:27:30,758 --> 00:27:32,137 [groans] 438 00:27:32,137 --> 00:27:33,034 [gasps] 439 00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:34,275 [Jennifer] Breathe air. Breathe air, 440 00:27:34,275 --> 00:27:35,896 -It might be over? -Over? Well... 441 00:27:35,896 --> 00:27:37,034 [Michael] Can't breathe. [gasps and cries] 442 00:27:37,034 --> 00:27:38,965 [Jennifer] Believe it is. 443 00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:44,275 They said I'm not guilty. Like, I'm... Everybody knows. 444 00:27:44,275 --> 00:27:46,965 [gasps and coughs] 445 00:27:46,965 --> 00:27:49,482 [stutters] It's... It's... It's... 446 00:27:49,482 --> 00:27:52,275 It took 12 strangers about an hour-and-a-half 447 00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:56,655 to figure out I wasn't guilty on four felony charges. 448 00:27:56,655 --> 00:27:58,793 [gasps] 449 00:27:58,793 --> 00:28:00,758 [cries] It might be over. 450 00:28:02,275 --> 00:28:04,482 [gasps] It might be over. 451 00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:07,862 [Beth] The 12 jurors only took a couple hours 452 00:28:07,862 --> 00:28:11,137 to find him not guilty of every count. 453 00:28:11,137 --> 00:28:15,965 All four counts- not guilty. Clean sweep. Complete victory for the defense. 454 00:28:17,172 --> 00:28:21,586 But I'll tell you what. This is not a vindication. 455 00:28:21,586 --> 00:28:24,344 Michael got lucky. Michael dodged a bullet. 456 00:28:27,896 --> 00:28:30,275 Jurors did not have all the facts. 457 00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:34,034 They based their decision on the limited information that they were given. 458 00:28:34,034 --> 00:28:37,896 I would want to ask the jury in Michael's case 459 00:28:37,896 --> 00:28:40,034 if their verdict would have been different 460 00:28:40,034 --> 00:28:45,379 had they known Natalia was an elementary-school- aged child 461 00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:47,689 when she was left to fend for herself. 462 00:28:47,689 --> 00:28:49,379 A child. 463 00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:52,310 Would they have made a different decision? 464 00:28:53,896 --> 00:28:55,068 [Michael sobs] 465 00:28:57,655 --> 00:28:59,103 Oh! 466 00:29:09,379 --> 00:29:10,965 [Jayne] My name is Jayne Parker. 467 00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:14,758 I served as the foreperson for the Michael Barnett trial. 468 00:29:16,482 --> 00:29:19,034 I was born and raised in Indiana. 469 00:29:19,034 --> 00:29:22,103 I'm Hoosier by birth but boilermaker by the grace of God. 470 00:29:22,103 --> 00:29:23,551 [chuckles] 471 00:29:24,379 --> 00:29:27,758 During the trial, there's tons of questions 472 00:29:28,379 --> 00:29:30,655 that really never got answered. 473 00:29:30,655 --> 00:29:33,275 As we started the deliberation process, 474 00:29:33,275 --> 00:29:39,379 100% of the jurors, 100%, definitely believed 475 00:29:39,379 --> 00:29:43,482 that Michael Barnett was guilty of abandoning her. 476 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:49,275 But because the judge was very, very clear on what we had to follow, 477 00:29:49,275 --> 00:29:54,379 people were just like, "Ugh, we have to go 'Not guilty' Ugh." 478 00:29:54,379 --> 00:29:59,965 And that was the tone in the room. "Oh, my God. He's gonna be 'Not guilty.'" 479 00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:01,275 You know, "This sucks." 480 00:30:01,275 --> 00:30:05,793 So that night, when I got home, I was straight on my computer. 481 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:09,586 I watched the Dr. Phil episode after the trial. 482 00:30:09,586 --> 00:30:11,655 -How old are you? -I'm 16. 483 00:30:11,655 --> 00:30:15,137 -When is your birthday? -Um, September 4th, 2003. 484 00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:17,965 You say you're 16. 485 00:30:17,965 --> 00:30:20,137 Are you a 33-year-old scam artist? 486 00:30:20,137 --> 00:30:21,793 No. 487 00:30:21,793 --> 00:30:23,275 No. 488 00:30:23,275 --> 00:30:26,862 It seems to show that Natalia actually 489 00:30:26,862 --> 00:30:30,793 is closer to 19 now, which would have made her nine 490 00:30:30,793 --> 00:30:33,344 at the time she was left in that apartment. 491 00:30:34,379 --> 00:30:35,965 That's crazy. 492 00:30:35,965 --> 00:30:38,758 You just think, "What a creepy guy. 493 00:30:38,758 --> 00:30:41,103 Who does that with his daughter?" 494 00:30:41,103 --> 00:30:45,137 If that's true, and that we weren't given that information, 495 00:30:45,137 --> 00:30:48,586 that seems like a huge miscarriage of justice. 496 00:30:48,586 --> 00:30:52,034 We felt that Michael Barnett had really gotten away 497 00:30:52,034 --> 00:30:54,689 with abandoning and neglecting his child. 498 00:30:54,689 --> 00:30:57,310 And none of us felt good about that. 499 00:30:59,896 --> 00:31:00,965 Holy [bleep]. 500 00:31:00,965 --> 00:31:02,275 [phone rings] 501 00:31:02,275 --> 00:31:06,586 -[Jacob] Yo, Dad. -Jacob! They didn't even have to debate anything. 502 00:31:06,586 --> 00:31:09,862 They went in there, and they knew instantly I was not guilty. 503 00:31:09,862 --> 00:31:12,275 It's not even... They didn't even have to argue or discuss it. 504 00:31:12,275 --> 00:31:13,896 They all knew it. 505 00:31:13,896 --> 00:31:15,931 [exhales] 506 00:31:18,241 --> 00:31:21,103 It is... It is, like, 90% behind me. 507 00:31:21,103 --> 00:31:24,482 I'll have to deal with certain little fallout from it the rest of my life. 508 00:31:24,482 --> 00:31:28,379 [laughs] Right after the judge got finished reading the verdict 509 00:31:28,379 --> 00:31:31,586 and the jury left the courtroom, 510 00:31:31,586 --> 00:31:34,793 the prosecutor then decided right then and there 511 00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:38,034 to let me know that she has now subpoenaed me to testify against your mommy. 512 00:31:38,034 --> 00:31:39,448 [laughs] 513 00:31:41,586 --> 00:31:44,172 Immediately upon being acquitted, 514 00:31:45,793 --> 00:31:48,482 Michael no longer had a Fifth Amendment right 515 00:31:48,482 --> 00:31:50,172 against self-incrimination, right? 516 00:31:50,172 --> 00:31:53,793 So he was served with a subpoena to testify at Kristine's trial. 517 00:31:53,793 --> 00:31:57,965 Now, you say, "How could a husband be compelled to testify against a wife? 518 00:31:57,965 --> 00:31:58,965 Isn't there a privilege?" 519 00:31:58,965 --> 00:32:00,758 Yes, there is a spousal privilege. 520 00:32:00,758 --> 00:32:04,448 However, there is an exception when a crime is afoot. 521 00:32:06,793 --> 00:32:10,379 This now becomes almost a Rubik's Cube on steroids 522 00:32:10,379 --> 00:32:14,000 because there's more information in the mix. 523 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,896 And they're gonna have a real shot at getting Kristine, his ex-wife. 524 00:32:16,896 --> 00:32:19,275 It appears to me, at least, that the charges 525 00:32:19,275 --> 00:32:21,034 that they brought against Michael Barnett, 526 00:32:21,034 --> 00:32:26,275 they did that somewhat in the sense of a trial run for the trial against her. 527 00:32:26,275 --> 00:32:28,482 It would be absolute beautiful justice 528 00:32:28,482 --> 00:32:31,689 if Kristine Barnett was found guilty 529 00:32:31,689 --> 00:32:36,586 here in Lafayette, Indiana, where she called everyone white trash. 530 00:32:36,586 --> 00:32:39,586 -[reporter] Kristine, is there anything you wanna say? -No comment. 531 00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:41,862 [Judith] I'd also say to Kristine Barnett 532 00:32:41,862 --> 00:32:43,689 that I hope justice is done 533 00:32:43,689 --> 00:32:47,482 and that, rightfully so, you should pay 534 00:32:47,482 --> 00:32:48,896 for abandoning a child. 535 00:32:48,896 --> 00:32:51,000 I hope she goes through hell. 536 00:32:54,896 --> 00:32:57,758 [Bob] I do think Michael Barnett, what he's been through, 537 00:32:57,758 --> 00:33:01,034 if he had an opportunity to testify against his ex-wife, Kristine, 538 00:33:01,034 --> 00:33:03,275 he would do it in a heartbeat. 539 00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:06,379 You will testify against Kristine, or you won't? 540 00:33:06,379 --> 00:33:11,448 Do I want to testify against my ex-wife, the mother of my children? 541 00:33:12,689 --> 00:33:16,862 What I want is for her to burn in hell. 542 00:33:44,551 --> 00:33:48,793 [Michael] The emotions after trial, they're up and down. 543 00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:52,137 It's been the first days of natural breathing 544 00:33:52,137 --> 00:33:55,655 that I've had in many years. 545 00:33:55,655 --> 00:34:01,241 It has truly felt like there is a ten-ton anvil over my head. 546 00:34:02,275 --> 00:34:03,965 Right up there. 547 00:34:03,965 --> 00:34:07,793 And unfortunately, that anvil is connected by just one single thread. 548 00:34:07,793 --> 00:34:08,896 Teeny, tiny, little thread. 549 00:34:08,896 --> 00:34:12,137 And if that wasn't, you know, stress-inducing enough, 550 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:16,379 there's, like, a cartoon cayote up there with a giant pair of scissors. 551 00:34:16,379 --> 00:34:19,965 That just chop and crush me. 552 00:34:19,965 --> 00:34:22,585 That's not there now. 553 00:34:22,585 --> 00:34:27,000 So as the trial ended, Natalia and I had this moment together 554 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,172 while everybody's off in a sidebar 555 00:34:29,172 --> 00:34:30,862 where there's nobody left in the courtroom. 556 00:34:30,862 --> 00:34:35,965 All I can see is Natalia. 557 00:34:35,965 --> 00:34:41,068 So as we're having this moment together, we lock eyes. 558 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,655 She just looks at me and does, like, a little wave. 559 00:34:44,655 --> 00:34:47,344 A little wave back from me. 560 00:34:48,172 --> 00:34:50,655 And I mouthed something to her, 561 00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:53,688 and I think she was able to get it. 562 00:34:53,688 --> 00:34:59,379 I just simply said, "This is hard. I'm sorry." 563 00:34:59,379 --> 00:35:01,275 Now, she was going through something really tough. 564 00:35:01,275 --> 00:35:03,551 Turning Natalia's testimony and depositions, 565 00:35:03,551 --> 00:35:09,586 it was a relief to me to honestly hear her describe some of the things 566 00:35:09,586 --> 00:35:12,137 that Kristine did to her. 567 00:35:12,137 --> 00:35:14,965 Kristine trying to beat the truth out of her. 568 00:35:14,965 --> 00:35:19,000 But she didn't expand on that. 569 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,862 There was no additional, "Oh, and Michael this, and Michael that, 570 00:35:21,862 --> 00:35:23,793 and Michael this" because Michael didn't. 571 00:35:23,793 --> 00:35:28,482 I'm not the bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not mean. 572 00:35:28,482 --> 00:35:29,862 I didn't harm her. 573 00:35:30,689 --> 00:35:33,827 One moment I'm exonerated. 574 00:35:34,793 --> 00:35:36,689 I am... It's over. 575 00:35:36,689 --> 00:35:41,862 I have fought a very-hard-fought victory. 576 00:35:41,862 --> 00:35:45,689 And my brain is saving strength for the fight 577 00:35:45,689 --> 00:35:47,586 that I've got coming. 578 00:35:47,586 --> 00:35:50,482 So, as far as me being subpoenaed 579 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:52,689 to potentially testify at Kristine's trial... 580 00:35:52,689 --> 00:35:55,172 Because I've just gone through what I've gone through, 581 00:35:55,172 --> 00:35:57,758 I have got protection called double jeopardy. 582 00:35:57,758 --> 00:36:01,379 Double jeopardy basically meaning anything that came out 583 00:36:01,379 --> 00:36:04,586 during the investigation of this case, 584 00:36:04,586 --> 00:36:06,965 they can't go back and charge me for. 585 00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:11,137 The prosecutor had made it very, very verbally clear 586 00:36:11,137 --> 00:36:15,103 they're going after Kristine, and they want her in the ground. 587 00:36:20,896 --> 00:36:22,344 She's petrified. 588 00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:25,275 She's scared to death, and she knows it. 589 00:36:25,275 --> 00:36:27,206 I want Kristine to go to jail. 590 00:36:29,275 --> 00:36:31,620 There's not a line she's not willing to cross. 591 00:36:33,034 --> 00:36:34,793 I don't care what Kristine's gonna say about me, 592 00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:36,793 and I'm going to assume the worst at all times. 593 00:36:36,793 --> 00:36:41,241 And she has already done all the damage to me that she can do. 594 00:36:42,758 --> 00:36:44,275 What else is she gonna do? 595 00:36:44,275 --> 00:36:45,551 What's she gonna do? 596 00:36:57,172 --> 00:37:00,793 [Fred] As far as this trial goes for Kristine, 597 00:37:00,793 --> 00:37:03,275 when I got the call from a Detective Davenport 598 00:37:03,275 --> 00:37:06,275 from the sex trafficking division of Indiana state police, 599 00:37:06,275 --> 00:37:08,896 I was kind of taken back because of my past 600 00:37:08,896 --> 00:37:13,137 and enjoying the company of women, 601 00:37:13,137 --> 00:37:15,172 sometimes paid-for women. 602 00:37:15,172 --> 00:37:19,000 Just gonna say. I'm not a bad guy, but guys have needs. 603 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,586 Anyhow, um... 604 00:37:20,586 --> 00:37:23,689 And he said, "Well, this is Detective Davenport from Indiana state police. 605 00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:28,689 Do you know Kristine? They adopted a young woman, Natalia." 606 00:37:28,689 --> 00:37:31,793 I said, "Yeah, I think she mentioned something about that." 607 00:37:31,793 --> 00:37:35,137 And he wanted to know if I'd ever dated Natalia, 608 00:37:35,137 --> 00:37:38,275 and I kind of was... Well, I was, like, flabbergasted. 609 00:37:38,275 --> 00:37:44,137 Basically, someone asking me had I ever had sexual relations with Natalia. 610 00:37:44,137 --> 00:37:46,758 In my mind, I'm thinking, "What the [bleep] are you talking about, dude?" 611 00:37:46,758 --> 00:37:48,482 I'm like, "Whoa." 612 00:37:48,482 --> 00:37:52,275 You know, I'm gonna say, it definitely took my breath away. 613 00:37:52,275 --> 00:37:55,586 "You don't have to feel bad," he said. "Even if you kissed her, I need to know, 614 00:37:55,586 --> 00:37:57,689 but you're not gonna get in trouble," I think is what he said. 615 00:37:57,689 --> 00:38:03,034 And I said, "No, I've never been intimate with a little person ever 616 00:38:03,034 --> 00:38:04,862 in my entire life. I know that, 617 00:38:04,862 --> 00:38:09,482 so I know that I never... That this is not somebody I met and forgot about." 618 00:38:09,482 --> 00:38:12,965 And I had met Kristine and Jacob when I was on the road. 619 00:38:12,965 --> 00:38:16,172 I don't know how the officer, the detective, got my name, 620 00:38:16,172 --> 00:38:19,379 other than maybe he saw on the message 621 00:38:19,379 --> 00:38:22,034 where Kristine tried to set me up with her. 622 00:38:22,034 --> 00:38:25,379 But I didn't take the bait. No reply from me. 623 00:38:25,379 --> 00:38:27,689 I just went, like, "Eugh." 624 00:38:27,689 --> 00:38:31,034 It gave me shivers to think that anybody would even remotely do that. 625 00:38:31,034 --> 00:38:33,793 I don't go there, and I think that people that do go there 626 00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:35,275 need to have their balls chopped off. 627 00:38:35,275 --> 00:38:38,103 It just really is disgusting. Yeah. 628 00:38:41,103 --> 00:38:42,344 [exhales] 629 00:38:48,482 --> 00:38:49,827 [exhales] 630 00:38:51,655 --> 00:38:53,241 [whispers] 631 00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:09,965 [stutters] I... I... I... I'm not gonna pay attention. I truly don't care. 632 00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:31,862 We have had many pushes and pulls. 633 00:39:31,862 --> 00:39:33,793 This is the last thing I'll do. 634 00:39:33,793 --> 00:39:37,103 Everything else from now on that I say, "No" is no. 635 00:39:41,655 --> 00:39:42,931 Whose computer is this? 636 00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:45,862 How many pieces do you want it back in? 637 00:39:45,862 --> 00:39:47,827 -[man laughs] -I'm not kidding. 638 00:39:48,862 --> 00:39:51,551 I don't care what's in this. 639 00:39:51,551 --> 00:39:56,172 It... It truly doesn't affect me 640 00:39:56,172 --> 00:39:59,931 what Kristine tells random people in the public about me. 641 00:40:03,482 --> 00:40:05,793 [Fred] Kristine told me in a series of messages 642 00:40:05,793 --> 00:40:09,275 Natalia ruined her life in so many ways. 643 00:40:09,275 --> 00:40:13,655 Kristine basically said that Natalia started... 644 00:40:13,655 --> 00:40:16,000 [bleep] no! 645 00:40:17,137 --> 00:40:18,448 Guys, mics off. 646 00:40:19,275 --> 00:40:23,103 Look, I don't wanna talk about this part at all. 647 00:40:23,103 --> 00:40:24,448 [beeping] 648 00:40:26,103 --> 00:40:28,965 [Fred] When I testify in the trial of Kristine Barnett, 649 00:40:28,965 --> 00:40:33,172 I'm gonna be doing the right thing, telling the truth. 650 00:40:33,172 --> 00:40:35,103 I guess I'll see you guys in court. 651 00:40:44,862 --> 00:40:47,551 [Beth] Michael's trial is over. 652 00:40:47,551 --> 00:40:50,448 He won. He's a free man. He has his liberty. 653 00:40:51,965 --> 00:40:54,379 He may still have to answer to some of this, though, 654 00:40:54,379 --> 00:40:56,137 in the court of public opinion. 655 00:40:56,137 --> 00:41:00,379 Michael Barnett being found not guilty was very disturbing and infuriating. 656 00:41:00,379 --> 00:41:03,862 Everything was stacked against Natalia. She didn't have a chance. 657 00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:06,862 [Judith] Poor Natalia. We can't do this to her. 658 00:41:06,862 --> 00:41:08,689 You have to be held accountable 659 00:41:08,689 --> 00:41:11,034 for the decisions you make in life. 660 00:41:11,034 --> 00:41:15,379 This whole Natalia situation, don't think I'll ever deal with it again. 661 00:41:15,379 --> 00:41:18,448 You know, knock on wood, but it was just a nightmare. 662 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,551 [Michael] The whole cliche of, "Time heals all wounds," 663 00:41:24,551 --> 00:41:26,551 I don't think it's really all that true. 664 00:41:27,379 --> 00:41:29,172 But it just makes it so you can move on. 665 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,931 I think time now needs to start doing its job. 666 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,896 It was an odd feeling that Michael Barnett really got away. 667 00:41:40,896 --> 00:41:41,965 It was something. 668 00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:57,758 It's okay. 669 00:41:58,965 --> 00:42:00,241 [sniffs] 670 00:42:01,172 --> 00:42:02,931 [sighs and sniffs] 671 00:42:05,793 --> 00:42:07,586 That's all right. You're not getting the crying version. 672 00:42:07,586 --> 00:42:09,862 If you want the crying version, I'll buss that one out.