[Michael] We're a weekend out from trial.
Look.
We know what the prosecution's gonna do.
We know what the state's gonna do.
We know what they're gonna throw us.
We know when they're gonna throw it.
We know how they're gonna throw it.
We know how fast it's gonna go.
We know everything about their game plan.
We know where their game plan's gonna end up.
They think we don't know it's gonna end up over there. We do.
We're gonna be there waiting for it.
So when they toss us a little softball, we know.
Michael's right here.
Crush it.
And that'll be it.
I have already lost everything in my life once.
If you were to show up here right here, right now,
and you were to tell me that you've got my youngest son, Ethan
and my middle son, Wesley, in your car with you right now,
and you were to tell me, "Mr. Barnett, you can see them for five minutes.
You can smile. You can hug your children.
It's only for five minutes, but to do it, you need to cut your arm off."
I'm not even gonna hesitate. Where's the machete?
[stutters] I will...
I will do anything if I could...
Sorry, I'm gonna get upset. I am.
[sniffs]
[grunts]
When this first started, every single night that I lied awake,
I would be picturing every single second in jail.
I'd be going through everything I ever heard of jail.
I'd be Googling, "Hey, what's jail really like?"
and reading the horror stories.
What is at risk?
Everything. Everything.
Sorry about throwing it. I am a thrower when I get mad.
I'm innocent. As long as the truth all comes out,
I have nothing to run and hide from.
But Kristine, she has hidden a lot of things.
During discovery, while the police are gathering their evidence,
requesting evidence and whatnot,
they subpoenaed Kristine's entire Facebook history.
Every message she's ever sent.
Every post she's ever made, et cetera.
As part of discovery, my attorney asked me,
"Hey, go through this, and just make sure
there's no landmines that we should be aware of."
So I'm just searching through. There's a name that pops up that I'm just not expecting.
Somebody that brought their kid to our daycare in about 2006-ish.
I know the guy's married, and these are extremely inappropriate,
sexual-nature conversation.
A lot of masturbating together.
"I wanna have three-ways with you and my wife.
Can you reach out to my wife for me and invite her?"
And I hit the floor crying.
And then I see all about the handyman
and all about her making out with him
and all about her taking him to a parking lot, leaving the kids at home
and having sex with him in the local McDonald's and Tim Horton's parking lots.
Who does this?
♪ Here comes the ladies' man ♪
♪ Watch out he's a ladies' man ♪
[Fred] My name is Fred Gill.
I was a celebrity in the country music business.
The thing about being on tour is the lady factor.
Man, I... [laughs]
Let's just say that I... I soaked all that up.
♪ Oh he's a ladies' man ♪
[Fred] Good girl.
Kristine reached out to me over Messenger
because they had just adopted Natalia.
And so Kristine had some questions for me about little people
and sought some advice, and I was more than happy to share that with her.
Our conversations started off very benign,
and then pretty quickly turned into a chain of messages
that were of a sexual nature.
Kristine tried to entice me into corresponding more
by putting herself out there physically.
There's multiple, multiple messages.
Quite a bit more graphic back and forth
about the kind of things we were gonna do sexually.
It's upside down. She sent that picture.
Talks about the fact that she didn't really see me as small,
that she treated me like everybody else.
I go on talking about my manhood being larger than average.
I asked her if she liked oral.
And she said, "Depends on if the guy's any good at it."
I told her about how I had an ex-girlfriend just about kick me across the room
because I was giving her so many orgasms in a row.
Eventually, I was called by a state police investigator,
asking me about the messages between Kristine and I.
So, I find out about this long after divorce,
with a woman that I truly cannot even fathom communicating with.
I'm robbed of my ability to confront her on this.
[cries] I'm still not ready to stand up to her.
And I'm not ready to...
I hate this.
I want this to stop.
[sobs]
About two-and-a-half years after my divorce,
Jennifer and I found each other.
Jennifer- God bless her- pulls me up, yells at me like a soldier.
She is an angel and a rockstar at the same time,
and she basically gets me back on track,
and that's really important and valuable.
I am so emotionally fragile and delicate.
It's such a house of cards right now.
I few months ago, [sighs] I had a breakdown.
I had a mental breakdown.
All the pressure and all the weight
and all the constant inability to sleep,
inability to rest, inability to live just all came crashing down.
This is all getting closer and closer and closer,
and it's getting tense and tense.
I checked myself into the hospital in June.
I have no problem talking about this.
I might get emotional over it, but I truly don't have trouble talking about it.
Um...
It was as close as I've been to a third suicide attempt
since the second one.
And it's been 18 years since then.
It...
I have panic attacks all day long.
I have anxiety attacks all day long.
Where we are, at my attorney's office,
this is the only place I feel myself anymore.
This is the only place that I feel comfortable and confident,
and I don't feel like somebody might be coming to attack me.
I don't feel safe almost anywhere anymore.
There's always a potential of some random reporter banging on my door
and shouting my name, "Michael Barnett, we know you're in there. Come out!"
[reporters shouting indistinctly]
[female newsreader] It's the story that captured the world's attention.
The bizarre case of child neglect.
The parents from Indianapolis
accused of abandoning their adopted daughter in an apartment.
[female newsreader] The Barnett's will have separate trials,
with Michael's just days away.
So, you think they should go to jail?
I feel like I was already robbed of my childhood.
But when I got re-aged, that's when it really hit hard.
It's not right to do that to a child.
They should do their time, get it over with, and get right with God.
Michael's trial is coming up, and the judge is ruling
that despite this DNA evidence, age still can't be mentioned,
and that's a big blow to the prosecution
because a lot of their counts had to do with the abandonment
and neglect of a child.
And everything became now abandonment and neglect of a disabled person,
not a child.
Is this trial gonna answer all the questions? No.
The judge has limited the evidence that the jury can hear.
They're not gonna know that Natalia was reaged from eight to 22.
[man] Now, when you were in Lafayette,
you didn't report that you were being neglected.
No 'cause I didn't know... I didn't even know what that meant.
But you didn't know that... You didn't report that, "Hey,"
you were left alone, and you don't know what you're doing?
Yes 'cause I didn't know that I could call the police and tell them that.
[man] So, the things that the police said that you said,
you're saying they're lying about that, right?
-Yes. -[man] Okay.
And the things that the field case managers said that you said,
they're lying about that, too?
Yes.
[Terrance] Mike, come on in. How you feeling?
Um, [bleep] great.
-Sure. -I'm ready to whoop some ass.
I'm walking into battle where I need certain types of experts, and I've got them.
[Terrance] And so those things are all true, but what I wanna talk about
is the people on the other table are not your [bleep] friend.
-This is a battle. This is a boxing match. -Yep.
[Terrance] This is pugilism. You have to punch and get punched.
[Michael] I can take a lot of punches, man.
A hundred jury trials under my belt.
One thing has always been true
regardless of the criminal offence.
It's gonna come down to do the jurors like you?
"Was Michael a good parent?"
"Was Michael a good person?"
"Did Michael Barnett abandon his 23-year-old daughter?"
-You're being judged. -Ugh.
Because remember, the question is...
-Just the phrase. I'm being judged. -"Did Michael Barnett
abandon his 23-year-old daughter?"
The jury is looking to see if you host those negative qualities.
The biggest part is they're gonna listen to your daughter.
And they're gonna listen to what she has to say.
"In my opinion, Michael Barnett's a piece of [bleep]."
How are you gonna respond to that in front of those 12 people?
I have been practicing for this moment for a decade.
I have put myself through the ringer in my head every night
since we started having trouble.
[Terrance] Let me ask you this.
How do you feel about Natalia?
Natalia's a human being. Flesh and blood.
Thinking, caring, feeling, emoting person.
Right? Just like you. Just like me.
-You know, I didn't hear you say, "I love her." -No, you didn't.
Let me ask you a question with an anti-answer,
so not so much how do I feel about her,
but how do I not feel about her?
There's not gonna be hate.
There's not gonna be anger.
[Terrance] I've been a part of cases where, you know,
it looks really good, and then it turns on an issue,
and the case that I thought wasn't very good ends up prevailing.
Basically, what I'm trying to say in a nice way
is sometimes, you can have a great case,
the state can have a [bleep] case, the state still wins.
[whispers] Yeah.
[Terrance] Here's the deal for the lawyers.
This is only about Michael.
It is imperative that you not bring up Kristine.
We're not defending Kristine Barnett.
We'll only be saying, "Michael Barnett,
Michael Barnett, Michael Barnett."
The parameters of this thing is, "Did Michael Barnett
neglect his 23-year-old daughter?"
If you're a juror, and you're hearing that this person's incapable,
would it be helpful to you to see her capabilities in a multitude of areas?
So, we have different video clips.
Let's play it. Let's discuss it.
And let's see what we got.
[Riley] Natalia Barnett running without assistance in 2011.
That's gonna be a good one.
This is at your house, Michael?
[Michael] This is at my house in Westfield.
This is after the first attempt at Kristine.
[Riley] She's moving.
[Michael] It's what she's able to do.
What we use that for is to show
that the diminished capacity that they're speaking of in Lafayette
seems to be kind of an apparition
because she was totally capable prior.
And nothing in her life changed other than her geographical location.
Next video.
[Riley] Trash can. Bringing it in.
-It's not even on wheels. -[Michael] No, it's not!
[Terrance] Put that doughnut down.
Put that down. Put that down. Put it down.
-But why? -Put it down. Do me a favor. Put it down.
[laughter]
-Yes, just drop it. Drop it. -[laughter]
[Vincent] Man, give me my doughnut back.
-I didn't take your doughnut. -Hold on. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet.
-Stop. Stop. -You can eat, but you can't talk.
We have important issues, guys.
We need to stay, you know, focused and not get arrogant
because we have a strong case.
We're in a trial. I'm trying to kick this girl's ass.
I'm not trying to be your [bleep] friend.
Natalia's age, if, indeed, she was only eight years old,
her knowledge wasn't there.
[Mark] Well, she wasn't eight years old. She was an adult.
This sounds like you're trying to make excuses
for a woman who dumped her child.
Well, Kyna, that's his job, so--
[Mark] No, no. Hold on. Hold on, Jackie.
That's not my job, to make excuses, ma'am.
Stop calling me ma'am. My name is Miss Weaver or Kyna.
You can call me either or.
Hey, you need to stay out of this. You're not part of this.
Hey. Stop it.
The Barnetts, what they did is wrong.
They're a disgrace. I think that they're crooks.
How dare you play with a human being's life?
What the [bleep] were you thinking?
You know, it'd be nice to see some...
Some vengeance, some justice for that.
I hope my testimony can reveal the truth.
I hope my testimony can help Natalia.
[sniffs and clears throat]
I hope she can heal from this.
Because she's had a lot of people, professionals, even, let her down.
[scoffs] She needs a wing over her, and she needs protecting
because she's up against a lot.
[Michael] Today is the day.
I'm getting ready to face my destiny.
A lot of things going through my mind right now.
Almost a sense of relief that it's here.
In an hour, literally an hour, I'll be sitting in front of the judge,
and it's game time.
I'm on stage.
My role is gonna be innocent-looking guy sitting still.
Just...
Ah...
I'm Traci Grant outside Tippecanoe County Courthouse
for day one of the Michael Barnett trial.
It's a simple question.
Did Michael Barnett abandon his 24-year-old daughter?
[Judith] The Barnetts have to be held accountable.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
You put someone through hell.
And it was a child that you put through hell,
who already had a disability and issues and obstacles
that she was gonna have to overcome,
and you put her through hell.
Good people don't do that.
If there's no justice to what happened to her,
then she'll feel like she doesn't matter, and that's not true.
I pray that Natalia has the justice that she seeks,
the truth comes out, and all will understand,
and that God is with her every step of the way.
Amen, and so it be.
[Traci] A global audience is eagerly awaiting the outcome
of one of the biggest trials of the year.
But due to Indiana state law, cameras are not permitted inside the courtroom
during the trial.
Today, jurors heard from the manager of the apartment building
where the Barnetts placed Natalia.
Prosecutors tried to prove not enough was done
for her to live her daily life comfortably.
Detective Brandon Davenport says Michael had a lot to say
about how Kristine Barnett and Natalia were constantly at odds.
[Beth] Hearing that comment, that Kristine said Lafayette is a white trash town,
no one's gonna care about her, is not good for the defense.
Michael's associated with Kristine.
That's his wife at the time.
So, yeah, that's not good.
I got a call from my office staff
telling me that this article hit the paper.
One of the witnesses claimed that Michael allegedly made this statement to him,
that they were leaving Natalia here in Lafayette because it's a white trash town.
And now it's in the paper.
We gotta figure out how to deal with this [bleep].
We got the entire city pissed off at my client.
I think once he understands the gravity of what's going on,
I'm pretty sure he's gonna decompose a little bit.
He's gonna break down a little bit.
This was a [bleep] tsunami. We gotta swim our way out of this.
This changes everything.
[Traci] Day three of the state of Indiana versus Michael Barnett
brought the star witness, Natalia Barnett, to the courtroom.
Using a walker, Natalia was helped onto the stand
to face the man who adopted her
and allegedly abandoned her two years later.
Good morning.
Prosecutors gave Natalia room to describe her medical condition
and how much pain it causes her.
The biggest bombshell in the courtroom
was when Kinnard asked Natalia her birth date, and she had to say 1989.
That reinforced the fact that this case was not going to be based on age.
Towards the end of her testimony, Natalia broke down in tears.
Natalia was the last witness in the prosecution's case-in-chief.
And when she was cross-examined by Michael's attorney,
she was asked a series of questions
where she couldn't remember the answers,
and she was chided and challenged and criticized for not remembering.
But jurors don't know that Anna Gava is Natalia's biological mother
and that Natalia was born in 2003.
So these questions she's being asked
and details she doesn't remember
involve times when she was six, seven, eight, nine years old.
No wonder she doesn't remember.
I can't wrap my head around the fact that jurors don't know
the most fundamental fact in this whole saga,
and that is how old is Natalia Barnett, really?
[Traci] After closing arguments were completed,
observers in the courtroom said it seemed like a draw, it could go either way.
And now it's in the hands of the jury.
A little upsetting.
Because she should have been my granddaughter,
and she didn't end up being my granddaughter.
One o'clock on a Thursday, why not?
-I know. -[laughter]
Everything that they said in their case was, "Kristine, Kristine, Kristine, Kristine.
Michael wasn't really that bad."
They'll go get her ass.
[Terrance] Every jury is different,
There's no commonality other than their assigned task-
listen to this information, and make a decision.
-[bleep] hate this [bleep]. -[laughter]
Nationwide, prosecutors win 98% of their cases.
Yeah, most of them plea, but they also win about the same percentage of trials.
Trials are [bleep] hard to win.
Don't go telling me that [bleep] now.
Where was this 98% stuff three years ago?
You were told. You had no choice.
Now the worry can really begin.
[clock ticking]
[Terrance] What you got here?
That looks like pepperoni.
[clock ticking]
[Michael] I think it might be worthy to speak a little bit
about the judge.
He was probably the best judge for this case.
His temperament is even. He gives both sides respect.
-[phone rings] -Oh, my, God. Damn it. That's my heart.
-[phone continues ringing] -Oh, that's the court.
-[man] Is it? -I'll put it on speaker.
Hi, it's Terrance.
[woman on phone] Hi, Mr. Kinnard.
It's Ashley from Superior Court II. We have a verdict.
[Terrance] Not a question?
[Ashley on phone] Not a question, a verdict.
Okay. I'm gonna go vomit, and then I'll be right there.
[Ashley on phone] Okay. Bye.
-[hang-up tone] -Oh, [bleep].
[laughs]
-That was quick. -[sighs]
Quick is bad.
Let's do it.
Yes, sir.
That icy numbness can wash all over me. I can't think. I can't feel.
[exhales]
[door opens and shuts]
[footsteps approaching]
I don't have words.
-I just don't. Hi. -Hi, sweetie.
-How are you? -I know.
[Terrance] It's in the hands of the jury.
Nothing you can do to change it.
It's done.
[Traci] Jury deliberations have concluded
in the Michael Barnett trial, reaching a verdict in just a couple of hours.
[elevator dings]
-I'm going up to four. -Okay.
See you up there.
There's not anything you can do.
[exhales]
You know what? We just finished this case.
We didn't... We're not allowed to talk about adoption.
We're not allowed to talk about age.
We're not allowed to talk about mental health records.
We're not allowed to talk about her stating to us
and saying she wants to kill us.
We're not allowed to talk about the statement saying
that she didn't wanna be around us anymore.
We're coming down to the teeniest circumstantial evidence
from 12 years ago.
[exhales]
[elevator dings]
[sobs]
[groans]
[gasps]
[Jennifer] Breathe air. Breathe air,
-It might be over? -Over? Well...
[Michael] Can't breathe. [gasps and cries]
[Jennifer] Believe it is.
They said I'm not guilty. Like, I'm... Everybody knows.
[gasps and coughs]
[stutters] It's... It's... It's...
It took 12 strangers about an hour-and-a-half
to figure out I wasn't guilty on four felony charges.
[gasps]
[cries] It might be over.
[gasps] It might be over.
[Beth] The 12 jurors only took a couple hours
to find him not guilty of every count.
All four counts- not guilty. Clean sweep. Complete victory for the defense.
But I'll tell you what. This is not a vindication.
Michael got lucky. Michael dodged a bullet.
Jurors did not have all the facts.
They based their decision on the limited information that they were given.
I would want to ask the jury in Michael's case
if their verdict would have been different
had they known Natalia was an elementary-school- aged child
when she was left to fend for herself.
A child.
Would they have made a different decision?
[Michael sobs]
Oh!
[Jayne] My name is Jayne Parker.
I served as the foreperson for the Michael Barnett trial.
I was born and raised in Indiana.
I'm Hoosier by birth but boilermaker by the grace of God.
[chuckles]
During the trial, there's tons of questions
that really never got answered.
As we started the deliberation process,
100% of the jurors, 100%, definitely believed
that Michael Barnett was guilty of abandoning her.
But because the judge was very, very clear on what we had to follow,
people were just like, "Ugh, we have to go 'Not guilty' Ugh."
And that was the tone in the room. "Oh, my God. He's gonna be 'Not guilty.'"
You know, "This sucks."
So that night, when I got home, I was straight on my computer.
I watched the Dr. Phil episode after the trial.
-How old are you? -I'm 16.
-When is your birthday? -Um, September 4th, 2003.
You say you're 16.
Are you a 33-year-old scam artist?
No.
It seems to show that Natalia actually
is closer to 19 now, which would have made her nine
at the time she was left in that apartment.
That's crazy.
You just think, "What a creepy guy.
Who does that with his daughter?"
If that's true, and that we weren't given that information,
that seems like a huge miscarriage of justice.
We felt that Michael Barnett had really gotten away
with abandoning and neglecting his child.
And none of us felt good about that.
Holy [bleep].
[phone rings]
-[Jacob] Yo, Dad. -Jacob! They didn't even have to debate anything.
They went in there, and they knew instantly I was not guilty.
It's not even... They didn't even have to argue or discuss it.
They all knew it.
[exhales]
It is... It is, like, 90% behind me.
I'll have to deal with certain little fallout from it the rest of my life.
[laughs] Right after the judge got finished reading the verdict
and the jury left the courtroom,
the prosecutor then decided right then and there
to let me know that she has now subpoenaed me to testify against your mommy.
[laughs]
Immediately upon being acquitted,
Michael no longer had a Fifth Amendment right
against self-incrimination, right?
So he was served with a subpoena to testify at Kristine's trial.
Now, you say, "How could a husband be compelled to testify against a wife?
Isn't there a privilege?"
Yes, there is a spousal privilege.
However, there is an exception when a crime is afoot.
This now becomes almost a Rubik's Cube on steroids
because there's more information in the mix.
And they're gonna have a real shot at getting Kristine, his ex-wife.
It appears to me, at least, that the charges
that they brought against Michael Barnett,
they did that somewhat in the sense of a trial run for the trial against her.
It would be absolute beautiful justice
if Kristine Barnett was found guilty
here in Lafayette, Indiana, where she called everyone white trash.
-[reporter] Kristine, is there anything you wanna say? -No comment.
[Judith] I'd also say to Kristine Barnett
that I hope justice is done
and that, rightfully so, you should pay
for abandoning a child.
I hope she goes through hell.
[Bob] I do think Michael Barnett, what he's been through,
if he had an opportunity to testify against his ex-wife, Kristine,
he would do it in a heartbeat.
You will testify against Kristine, or you won't?
Do I want to testify against my ex-wife, the mother of my children?
What I want is for her to burn in hell.
[Michael] The emotions after trial, they're up and down.
It's been the first days of natural breathing
that I've had in many years.
It has truly felt like there is a ten-ton anvil over my head.
Right up there.
And unfortunately, that anvil is connected by just one single thread.
Teeny, tiny, little thread.
And if that wasn't, you know, stress-inducing enough,
there's, like, a cartoon cayote up there with a giant pair of scissors.
That just chop and crush me.
That's not there now.
So as the trial ended, Natalia and I had this moment together
while everybody's off in a sidebar
where there's nobody left in the courtroom.
All I can see is Natalia.
So as we're having this moment together, we lock eyes.
She just looks at me and does, like, a little wave.
A little wave back from me.
And I mouthed something to her,
and I think she was able to get it.
I just simply said, "This is hard. I'm sorry."
Now, she was going through something really tough.
Turning Natalia's testimony and depositions,
it was a relief to me to honestly hear her describe some of the things
that Kristine did to her.
Kristine trying to beat the truth out of her.
But she didn't expand on that.
There was no additional, "Oh, and Michael this, and Michael that,
and Michael this" because Michael didn't.
I'm not the bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not mean.
I didn't harm her.
One moment I'm exonerated.
I am... It's over.
I have fought a very-hard-fought victory.
And my brain is saving strength for the fight
that I've got coming.
So, as far as me being subpoenaed
to potentially testify at Kristine's trial...
Because I've just gone through what I've gone through,
I have got protection called double jeopardy.
Double jeopardy basically meaning anything that came out
during the investigation of this case,
they can't go back and charge me for.
The prosecutor had made it very, very verbally clear
they're going after Kristine, and they want her in the ground.
She's petrified.
She's scared to death, and she knows it.
I want Kristine to go to jail.
There's not a line she's not willing to cross.
I don't care what Kristine's gonna say about me,
and I'm going to assume the worst at all times.
And she has already done all the damage to me that she can do.
What else is she gonna do?
What's she gonna do?
[Fred] As far as this trial goes for Kristine,
when I got the call from a Detective Davenport
from the sex trafficking division of Indiana state police,
I was kind of taken back because of my past
and enjoying the company of women,
sometimes paid-for women.
Just gonna say. I'm not a bad guy, but guys have needs.
Anyhow, um...
And he said, "Well, this is Detective Davenport from Indiana state police.
Do you know Kristine? They adopted a young woman, Natalia."
I said, "Yeah, I think she mentioned something about that."
And he wanted to know if I'd ever dated Natalia,
and I kind of was... Well, I was, like, flabbergasted.
Basically, someone asking me had I ever had sexual relations with Natalia.
In my mind, I'm thinking, "What the [bleep] are you talking about, dude?"
I'm like, "Whoa."
You know, I'm gonna say, it definitely took my breath away.
"You don't have to feel bad," he said. "Even if you kissed her, I need to know,
but you're not gonna get in trouble," I think is what he said.
And I said, "No, I've never been intimate with a little person ever
in my entire life. I know that,
so I know that I never... That this is not somebody I met and forgot about."
And I had met Kristine and Jacob when I was on the road.
I don't know how the officer, the detective, got my name,
other than maybe he saw on the message
where Kristine tried to set me up with her.
But I didn't take the bait. No reply from me.
I just went, like, "Eugh."
It gave me shivers to think that anybody would even remotely do that.
I don't go there, and I think that people that do go there
need to have their balls chopped off.
It just really is disgusting. Yeah.
[exhales]
[whispers]
[stutters] I... I... I... I'm not gonna pay attention. I truly don't care.
We have had many pushes and pulls.
This is the last thing I'll do.
Everything else from now on that I say, "No" is no.
Whose computer is this?
How many pieces do you want it back in?
-[man laughs] -I'm not kidding.
I don't care what's in this.
It... It truly doesn't affect me
what Kristine tells random people in the public about me.
[Fred] Kristine told me in a series of messages
Natalia ruined her life in so many ways.
Kristine basically said that Natalia started...
[bleep] no!
Guys, mics off.
Look, I don't wanna talk about this part at all.
[beeping]
[Fred] When I testify in the trial of Kristine Barnett,
I'm gonna be doing the right thing, telling the truth.
I guess I'll see you guys in court.
[Beth] Michael's trial is over.
He won. He's a free man. He has his liberty.
He may still have to answer to some of this, though,
in the court of public opinion.
Michael Barnett being found not guilty was very disturbing and infuriating.
Everything was stacked against Natalia. She didn't have a chance.
[Judith] Poor Natalia. We can't do this to her.
You have to be held accountable
for the decisions you make in life.
This whole Natalia situation, don't think I'll ever deal with it again.
You know, knock on wood, but it was just a nightmare.
[Michael] The whole cliche of, "Time heals all wounds,"
I don't think it's really all that true.
But it just makes it so you can move on.
I think time now needs to start doing its job.
It was an odd feeling that Michael Barnett really got away.
It was something.
It's okay.
[sniffs]
[sighs and sniffs]
That's all right. You're not getting the crying version.
If you want the crying version, I'll buss that one out.