1 00:00:04,953 --> 00:00:08,594 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:08,661 --> 00:00:11,365 SCOTT: A man walks into the appliance repair shop. 3 00:00:11,432 --> 00:00:13,570 Mark Chynoweth is in there by himself. 4 00:00:13,637 --> 00:00:20,551 ♪♪ ♪♪ 5 00:00:25,060 --> 00:00:27,765 And the killer opens fire. 6 00:00:27,832 --> 00:00:30,036 [gunshots] 7 00:00:30,103 --> 00:00:32,207 ♪♪ ♪♪ 8 00:00:32,274 --> 00:00:34,311 Simultaneously, Eddie Marston 9 00:00:34,378 --> 00:00:36,583 is at a house in an Irving neighborhood. 10 00:00:36,650 --> 00:00:40,123 A black Silverado pickup truck pulls up, a guy gets out... 11 00:00:40,190 --> 00:00:43,229 ♪♪ ♪♪ 12 00:00:43,296 --> 00:00:45,033 Shoots Eddie Marston dead. 13 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:50,845 ♪♪ ♪♪ 14 00:00:50,912 --> 00:00:53,483 While those two murders are happening, 15 00:00:53,550 --> 00:00:57,157 a black Silverado pickup truck pulls up on Rena Street. 16 00:00:57,224 --> 00:01:00,097 ♪♪ ♪♪ 17 00:01:00,163 --> 00:01:01,833 Gunman gets out... 18 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:04,706 ♪♪ ♪♪ 19 00:01:04,772 --> 00:01:07,144 Shoots Duane Chynoweth dead in the driveway. 20 00:01:07,210 --> 00:01:09,716 [gunshot] 21 00:01:09,783 --> 00:01:12,655 [gunshots] 22 00:01:12,722 --> 00:01:15,127 LINDSAY: Sitting in the pickup truck 23 00:01:15,194 --> 00:01:17,464 is eight-year-old Jenny Chynoweth, 24 00:01:17,531 --> 00:01:20,704 who just witnessed her father being murdered. 25 00:01:22,474 --> 00:01:25,380 SCOTT: The little girl, Jennifer, starts screaming. 26 00:01:25,447 --> 00:01:27,317 [muffled screaming] 27 00:01:27,384 --> 00:01:29,889 The killer reaches in through the window 28 00:01:29,956 --> 00:01:33,798 and just shoots her point-blank range in the head. 29 00:01:33,864 --> 00:01:35,801 [gunshot] 30 00:01:35,868 --> 00:01:38,740 ♪♪ ♪♪ 31 00:01:38,807 --> 00:01:41,713 [tires squealing] 32 00:01:41,780 --> 00:01:44,017 ♪♪ ♪♪ 33 00:01:44,084 --> 00:01:46,957 [unsettling string music] 34 00:01:47,024 --> 00:01:54,171 ♪♪ ♪♪ 35 00:02:21,559 --> 00:02:23,697 - This was the first time 36 00:02:23,764 --> 00:02:26,468 in all of the years I lived with Mark and Lillian 37 00:02:26,535 --> 00:02:29,541 I did not have to go to work sick. 38 00:02:29,609 --> 00:02:31,479 But I was going to have to stay home 39 00:02:31,547 --> 00:02:33,149 and take care of the kids. 40 00:02:33,216 --> 00:02:35,954 [suspenseful music] 41 00:02:36,021 --> 00:02:38,025 EMILY: Like a typical summer day, 42 00:02:38,092 --> 00:02:40,898 I'm home with my siblings in Houston, 12 years old. 43 00:02:40,965 --> 00:02:42,033 School's out. 44 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:43,503 Was outside playing basketball, 45 00:02:43,571 --> 00:02:45,039 and the phone was ringing. 46 00:02:45,106 --> 00:02:48,446 [telephone ringing] 47 00:02:48,513 --> 00:02:53,122 - And it was one of the men that worked for Mark. 48 00:02:53,189 --> 00:02:57,999 And he's like, Anna, are you and the kids okay? 49 00:02:58,065 --> 00:02:59,736 I was like, yes. 50 00:02:59,803 --> 00:03:02,407 And he's like, there's a truck and a car coming. 51 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:04,680 They'll be at your house any minute. 52 00:03:04,746 --> 00:03:07,083 Get the children, gather them up, 53 00:03:07,150 --> 00:03:10,290 and you get in the cars as quickly as you can. 54 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:14,131 ♪♪ ♪♪ 55 00:03:14,197 --> 00:03:16,369 The energy just leaves your body, 56 00:03:16,435 --> 00:03:18,305 and your knees are shaking. 57 00:03:18,372 --> 00:03:20,476 Everything just starts shaking. 58 00:03:20,544 --> 00:03:23,015 ♪♪ ♪♪ 59 00:03:23,082 --> 00:03:26,590 - I came in, and I said, well, you know, what happened? 60 00:03:26,657 --> 00:03:29,194 She told me that, now I just need you to listen 61 00:03:29,261 --> 00:03:32,200 and do what I'm saying. 62 00:03:32,267 --> 00:03:35,239 I knew instantly. 63 00:03:35,306 --> 00:03:37,879 This was, like, the dreaded day. 64 00:03:37,945 --> 00:03:40,951 I thought, my dad's dead. 65 00:03:41,018 --> 00:03:45,628 - I have that awareness, too, that this was probably our dad. 66 00:03:45,695 --> 00:03:47,063 [crying] I just remember just, like, hitting my knees 67 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:50,203 and just praying that nothing was happening, 68 00:03:50,270 --> 00:03:51,339 you know, to Dad. 69 00:03:51,405 --> 00:03:53,076 Like, God, please protect my dad. 70 00:03:53,142 --> 00:03:55,347 Please don't let this be. 71 00:03:55,413 --> 00:03:58,118 - I gathered up the kids as quickly as I could. 72 00:03:58,185 --> 00:04:01,325 I start, you know, getting them out the door. 73 00:04:01,392 --> 00:04:05,634 ♪♪ ♪♪ 74 00:04:05,701 --> 00:04:07,303 I have no idea what's going on, 75 00:04:07,370 --> 00:04:10,076 but my worst nightmares, I know, are coming true. 76 00:04:10,143 --> 00:04:14,819 ♪♪ ♪♪ 77 00:04:14,886 --> 00:04:17,023 REPORTER: In Texas, 4 people were murdered 78 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:19,394 in separate attacks within 15 minutes. 79 00:04:19,461 --> 00:04:23,002 In Houston, Mark Chynoweth was shot dead behind the counter 80 00:04:23,069 --> 00:04:24,606 of his secondhand store. 81 00:04:24,673 --> 00:04:26,977 - We do not know what the motive for it is. 82 00:04:27,044 --> 00:04:29,582 We have been told by several persons 83 00:04:29,649 --> 00:04:31,318 that he was a member 84 00:04:31,385 --> 00:04:34,659 of some type of a fraternal organization. 85 00:04:34,726 --> 00:04:36,629 - Three middle-class businessmen, 86 00:04:36,696 --> 00:04:38,601 one innocent eight-year-old child, 87 00:04:38,667 --> 00:04:40,771 all killed in the same day, 88 00:04:40,838 --> 00:04:42,842 all killed about the same time, 89 00:04:42,909 --> 00:04:47,050 all shot by weapons of destructive caliber. 90 00:04:47,117 --> 00:04:51,125 Even in Houston, which has more than its fair share 91 00:04:51,192 --> 00:04:54,198 of homicides, this is... 92 00:04:54,265 --> 00:04:55,867 this is different. 93 00:04:55,934 --> 00:04:58,439 - These murders get dubbed "the 4 o'clock murders." 94 00:04:58,505 --> 00:05:00,109 The press picks it up. 95 00:05:00,176 --> 00:05:02,815 And June 27 at 4:00 96 00:05:02,882 --> 00:05:05,486 is not just any time for Mormons. 97 00:05:05,554 --> 00:05:07,792 It's the exact time Mormon founder 98 00:05:07,859 --> 00:05:11,867 and prophet Joseph Smith was killed in Carthage Jail 99 00:05:11,934 --> 00:05:14,204 by an angry mob. 100 00:05:14,271 --> 00:05:17,645 - The homicides, all three, were very well organized. 101 00:05:17,711 --> 00:05:19,315 And they almost always want to make sure 102 00:05:19,381 --> 00:05:20,684 the victim was at some place 103 00:05:20,751 --> 00:05:22,622 where they felt comfortable or normal. 104 00:05:22,688 --> 00:05:25,160 These are assassinations. 105 00:05:25,226 --> 00:05:27,097 SCOTT: They were carrying these murders out 106 00:05:27,163 --> 00:05:28,399 in broad daylight. 107 00:05:28,466 --> 00:05:30,536 What the killers decided to do was, 108 00:05:30,604 --> 00:05:32,741 they would all wear matching disguises, 109 00:05:32,808 --> 00:05:36,248 and they would all have the same stolen pickup truck 110 00:05:36,315 --> 00:05:37,751 that they would be driving. 111 00:05:37,818 --> 00:05:40,457 So, if there were eyewitnesses, and there were, 112 00:05:40,523 --> 00:05:43,597 all the descriptions would perfectly match. 113 00:05:45,233 --> 00:05:48,005 Somebody had really thought this thing through 114 00:05:48,072 --> 00:05:50,176 and really planned. 115 00:05:50,243 --> 00:05:52,715 ♪♪ ♪♪ 116 00:05:52,782 --> 00:05:54,585 LINDSAY: So now police are left with, 117 00:05:54,652 --> 00:05:56,890 who would have come up with such a coordinated 118 00:05:56,957 --> 00:06:00,931 and complex plot to execute these men at the same time? 119 00:06:00,998 --> 00:06:03,971 ♪♪ ♪♪ 120 00:06:04,037 --> 00:06:07,812 [dramatic music] 121 00:06:07,878 --> 00:06:10,551 ANNA: They bring all the kids to this friend's house. 122 00:06:10,618 --> 00:06:12,254 Nobody will tell me what's going on, 123 00:06:12,321 --> 00:06:15,059 and I'm like, can you please tell me what's going on? 124 00:06:15,126 --> 00:06:18,432 We have to just wait. You have to just wait. 125 00:06:18,499 --> 00:06:20,403 EMILY: It was actually the pastor of our church-- 126 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:24,478 his wife gathered us together in this friend's living room, 127 00:06:24,545 --> 00:06:27,150 just said it really straight to all of us. 128 00:06:27,217 --> 00:06:29,856 - "I hate to tell you kids, but your dad's dead." 129 00:06:29,922 --> 00:06:32,093 And there was just, like... 130 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,803 [voice breaking] Just this-- just horrible, like, wailing. 131 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:40,509 To this day, that sound never leaves. 132 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:43,951 - [voice breaking] I knew that I didn't want Celia 133 00:06:44,017 --> 00:06:48,292 to find out about Mark from anyone else but me. 134 00:06:48,359 --> 00:06:51,465 ♪♪ ♪♪ 135 00:06:51,532 --> 00:06:55,239 - She says, Celia, Mark has been shot. 136 00:06:55,306 --> 00:06:58,647 ♪♪ ♪♪ 137 00:06:58,713 --> 00:07:02,120 [inhales sharply] And my knees just grow weak, 138 00:07:02,187 --> 00:07:05,694 and I lose it. 139 00:07:05,761 --> 00:07:08,265 ♪♪ ♪♪ 140 00:07:08,332 --> 00:07:10,938 And then we find out that Duane 141 00:07:11,005 --> 00:07:13,910 and his little daughter Jenny 142 00:07:13,977 --> 00:07:17,417 and our half-brother Ed were also murdered. 143 00:07:17,484 --> 00:07:21,826 ♪♪ ♪♪ 144 00:07:21,893 --> 00:07:24,331 SCOTT: When police talked to the families, 145 00:07:24,398 --> 00:07:26,168 they started figuring out the connection. 146 00:07:26,235 --> 00:07:30,043 They learned about this hit list. 147 00:07:30,109 --> 00:07:33,415 They had a sense of who was behind this. 148 00:07:33,482 --> 00:07:36,188 ♪♪ ♪♪ 149 00:07:36,254 --> 00:07:38,593 - We knew, and no one had to tell us. 150 00:07:38,660 --> 00:07:40,463 - No one had to tell us. - We didn't have to ask. 151 00:07:40,530 --> 00:07:41,933 - Yeah. 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,870 - It was other parts of our family. 153 00:07:43,937 --> 00:07:46,208 Other people that we loved... ANNA: Mm-hmm. 154 00:07:46,274 --> 00:07:49,181 - Were killing these precious humans 155 00:07:49,247 --> 00:07:50,951 that we adored. ANNA: Mm-hmm, yeah. 156 00:07:51,018 --> 00:07:53,355 This time, when the authorities and the police 157 00:07:53,422 --> 00:07:56,563 are asking me to name names and identify people... 158 00:07:56,630 --> 00:07:59,200 ♪♪ ♪♪ 159 00:07:59,267 --> 00:08:03,544 I was able to say who I knew and what I knew. 160 00:08:03,610 --> 00:08:06,214 I didn't have to say, I don't know. 161 00:08:06,281 --> 00:08:09,989 We knew they were blood atonements. 162 00:08:10,056 --> 00:08:13,830 - They were carrying out our father's revelations 163 00:08:13,897 --> 00:08:16,468 from The Book of the New Covenant. 164 00:08:16,535 --> 00:08:18,472 ♪♪ ♪♪ 165 00:08:18,539 --> 00:08:21,411 - Chynoweth and Marston families were devout followers 166 00:08:21,478 --> 00:08:22,882 of Ervil LeBaron. 167 00:08:22,949 --> 00:08:24,719 But apparently they defected-- 168 00:08:24,785 --> 00:08:27,290 a sin, according to LeBaron religious doctrine. 169 00:08:27,356 --> 00:08:30,764 Some people close to that sect would say that on June 27th, 170 00:08:30,831 --> 00:08:33,002 they were punished for their sin. 171 00:08:33,069 --> 00:08:35,339 ♪♪ ♪♪ 172 00:08:35,406 --> 00:08:39,180 - After they had interviewed the Chynoweth family, 173 00:08:39,247 --> 00:08:42,821 there were people that they suspected of being involved, 174 00:08:42,888 --> 00:08:45,126 specifically the group 175 00:08:45,192 --> 00:08:48,031 called the Kingdom of God on Earth, the KOG, 176 00:08:48,098 --> 00:08:50,436 that's run by Heber LeBaron, 177 00:08:50,503 --> 00:08:54,044 along with his brother Aaron in Mexico. 178 00:08:54,111 --> 00:08:57,952 Law enforcement was puzzled by these four murders in Texas. 179 00:08:58,019 --> 00:09:01,025 They needed more information in order to understand 180 00:09:01,091 --> 00:09:03,295 how this could happen the way it happened. 181 00:09:03,362 --> 00:09:06,969 And being the lead Assistant U.S. Attorney at the time, 182 00:09:07,036 --> 00:09:09,274 it became my responsibility 183 00:09:09,341 --> 00:09:12,413 to coordinate things from here. 184 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,352 It was a really tough case. 185 00:09:15,419 --> 00:09:20,229 Houston PD did not have a lot of evidence to work with-- 186 00:09:20,296 --> 00:09:23,803 no fingerprints, no positive identifications. 187 00:09:23,870 --> 00:09:26,341 They were getting nowhere. 188 00:09:26,408 --> 00:09:28,580 LINDSAY: They knew who ordered the murders, 189 00:09:28,647 --> 00:09:30,283 but they couldn't arrest him, 190 00:09:30,349 --> 00:09:33,389 because Ervil LeBaron had been dead 191 00:09:33,455 --> 00:09:35,393 for over seven years. 192 00:09:35,460 --> 00:09:37,798 ♪♪ ♪♪ 193 00:09:40,236 --> 00:09:42,207 [dramatic music] 194 00:09:42,273 --> 00:09:44,478 - After Mark died, we all got to go home-- 195 00:09:44,545 --> 00:09:46,916 me and the children--to be with Lillian at our house. 196 00:09:46,983 --> 00:09:49,354 We know that it's possible 197 00:09:49,421 --> 00:09:51,993 that somebody could come after her, too. 198 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:54,565 - There was a very compelling belief 199 00:09:54,632 --> 00:09:56,135 that my mother, Lillian, 200 00:09:56,201 --> 00:09:58,339 was supposed to be killed the same day, 201 00:09:58,405 --> 00:10:01,278 that they would come back and kill her. 202 00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,784 And because a child had been killed, 203 00:10:03,851 --> 00:10:06,756 would more children be killed? 204 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:08,960 - We were absolutely terrified. 205 00:10:09,027 --> 00:10:12,200 And there's a SWAT team surrounding our house. 206 00:10:12,266 --> 00:10:15,840 They had installed motion-detection lighting. 207 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:18,178 We could not go outside at all. 208 00:10:18,245 --> 00:10:20,149 ♪♪ ♪♪ 209 00:10:20,216 --> 00:10:22,387 And I'm at the iron downstairs, 210 00:10:22,454 --> 00:10:24,592 helping get the clothes ready for the funeral. 211 00:10:24,658 --> 00:10:27,363 And all of a sudden... 212 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:29,802 all the lights go out in the house, 213 00:10:29,869 --> 00:10:33,209 and we are left in pitch-dark. 214 00:10:33,275 --> 00:10:35,180 - When the lights went out, it felt like, 215 00:10:35,246 --> 00:10:37,517 wait a minute, the security's failed. 216 00:10:37,584 --> 00:10:38,920 EMILY: Yeah. 217 00:10:40,456 --> 00:10:44,264 - We were in the pitch-black, just crawling. 218 00:10:44,331 --> 00:10:46,268 ♪♪ ♪♪ 219 00:10:46,335 --> 00:10:49,374 ANNA: I'm scrambling around. I find Celia, and we're like-- 220 00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:50,877 CELIA: We go hide in the bathtub. 221 00:10:50,944 --> 00:10:52,213 ANNA: We go hide in the bathtub. 222 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,950 We make ourselves as small as we can. 223 00:10:54,017 --> 00:10:55,420 CELIA: Barely breathing. 224 00:10:55,487 --> 00:10:57,357 ANNA: We're just shaking with fear, thinking, 225 00:10:57,423 --> 00:10:59,260 somebody's going to come in here and shoot me. 226 00:10:59,327 --> 00:11:01,398 - I thought people were going to burst in and start shooting. 227 00:11:01,465 --> 00:11:03,536 EMILY: Burst in and murder us, for sure. 228 00:11:03,604 --> 00:11:06,976 [suspenseful music] 229 00:11:07,043 --> 00:11:08,412 ANNA: Time passes. 230 00:11:08,478 --> 00:11:11,385 And then all of a sudden, the lights come back on. 231 00:11:11,452 --> 00:11:15,092 ♪♪ ♪♪ 232 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:18,800 And it was faulty wiring with the motion detectors. 233 00:11:20,303 --> 00:11:23,442 ♪♪ ♪♪ 234 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:25,814 - After the 4 o'clock murders, 235 00:11:25,881 --> 00:11:27,785 we were still in Denver, 236 00:11:27,852 --> 00:11:31,559 and we were... 237 00:11:31,626 --> 00:11:33,697 still trying to live our lives, 238 00:11:33,764 --> 00:11:37,704 but we knew my mom, Anna Mae, 239 00:11:37,771 --> 00:11:39,507 was on that hit list. 240 00:11:41,044 --> 00:11:43,315 So, at the age of 13, 241 00:11:43,382 --> 00:11:45,654 I was given a gun. 242 00:11:45,721 --> 00:11:48,726 ♪♪ ♪♪ 243 00:11:48,793 --> 00:11:50,664 Whenever my mom answered the door, 244 00:11:50,731 --> 00:11:54,772 I was to aim that gun out the living-room window. 245 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:57,510 And if it was any of my siblings, 246 00:11:57,578 --> 00:12:01,318 if you saw anybody draw a gun, you were to pull the trigger. 247 00:12:01,385 --> 00:12:03,724 ♪♪ ♪♪ 248 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:05,426 HYRUM: It was understood, there was probably 249 00:12:05,493 --> 00:12:07,197 going to be somebody coming trying to kill us, 250 00:12:07,263 --> 00:12:08,900 so you have to shoot first. 251 00:12:08,967 --> 00:12:10,837 You shoot to kill. 252 00:12:12,775 --> 00:12:14,177 - We were petrified. 253 00:12:14,243 --> 00:12:17,150 We thought they would come and kill us at any moment. 254 00:12:17,216 --> 00:12:18,285 And they knew where all of our homes were, 255 00:12:18,352 --> 00:12:20,022 'cause they were living with us. 256 00:12:20,089 --> 00:12:22,661 - We were like, we have to get out of town. 257 00:12:22,728 --> 00:12:24,832 We have to leave Denver. 258 00:12:25,901 --> 00:12:28,239 The map was spread out, and there was these conversations 259 00:12:28,306 --> 00:12:30,911 going back and forth about where we should go. 260 00:12:30,978 --> 00:12:32,949 But nobody really had any real-world experience 261 00:12:33,015 --> 00:12:36,021 of anywhere else. 262 00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:37,791 I had heard about Oregon before, 263 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:39,127 and it sounded really cool to me. 264 00:12:39,194 --> 00:12:40,797 So I was like, we should go to Oregon. 265 00:12:40,864 --> 00:12:42,934 It seemed far enough away to be safe, 266 00:12:43,001 --> 00:12:44,337 and nobody would expect it 267 00:12:44,404 --> 00:12:47,343 because that's nowhere we'd ever lived before. 268 00:12:47,410 --> 00:12:50,650 Pretty soon, the decision was made--we're going to Oregon. 269 00:12:50,717 --> 00:12:52,119 - We had a huge caravan. 270 00:12:52,186 --> 00:12:53,857 We all left in the middle of the night. 271 00:12:53,923 --> 00:12:56,328 Our homes were completely intact. 272 00:12:56,395 --> 00:12:59,735 We took a few clothes, a few things, and left. 273 00:12:59,802 --> 00:13:04,812 ♪♪ ♪♪ 274 00:13:04,879 --> 00:13:06,114 ANNA: Do you know that 275 00:13:06,181 --> 00:13:09,120 after the 4 o'clock murders happened, 276 00:13:09,187 --> 00:13:12,027 I had to start carrying a gun, too? 277 00:13:12,093 --> 00:13:13,429 - I didn't know that. 278 00:13:13,495 --> 00:13:15,233 ANNA: I was working in the appliance shop, 279 00:13:15,299 --> 00:13:17,470 and I carried a gun to work. 280 00:13:17,537 --> 00:13:20,442 I remember the feeling of the heaviness of it 281 00:13:20,509 --> 00:13:22,179 in my pocket. 282 00:13:22,246 --> 00:13:24,384 I remember driving back. 283 00:13:24,451 --> 00:13:27,356 After Mark was killed, I had to go back into the shop. 284 00:13:27,423 --> 00:13:29,394 And so they said, it hasn't been cleaned up yet. 285 00:13:29,461 --> 00:13:33,368 CELIA: Oh! How many days after? - Like, the next day. 286 00:13:33,435 --> 00:13:35,640 - Oh, no, really? ANNA: It was like-- 287 00:13:35,707 --> 00:13:39,915 [breathes deeply] 288 00:13:39,982 --> 00:13:42,688 The carpet still had his blood on it. 289 00:13:42,755 --> 00:13:44,792 [distant siren wailing] 290 00:13:44,859 --> 00:13:49,133 ♪♪ ♪♪ 291 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,670 EMILY: The day of the funeral, 292 00:13:50,737 --> 00:13:54,778 the emphasis was not on grieving their loss. 293 00:13:54,845 --> 00:13:56,983 It was on survival. 294 00:13:57,049 --> 00:14:00,322 It was a terrorizing event. 295 00:14:00,389 --> 00:14:03,663 Fear had gripped everyone. 296 00:14:03,730 --> 00:14:05,834 REPORTER: The victims were all members 297 00:14:05,901 --> 00:14:07,637 of the Chynoweth family. 298 00:14:07,704 --> 00:14:10,442 They'd been linked with several murders themselves, 299 00:14:10,509 --> 00:14:13,248 but they'd left the LeBaron church to start a new life 300 00:14:13,315 --> 00:14:15,253 away from the violence. 301 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,427 - Using the past example of the Rulon Allred funeral, 302 00:14:19,493 --> 00:14:23,269 designed to lure Verlan to his death, 303 00:14:23,335 --> 00:14:25,072 the authorities were really worried 304 00:14:25,139 --> 00:14:26,942 that the same thing could happen 305 00:14:27,009 --> 00:14:29,247 with the Chynoweth and the Marston funerals. 306 00:14:30,984 --> 00:14:32,721 - There are some who aren't here, 307 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:34,324 who would like to be here. 308 00:14:34,391 --> 00:14:36,327 They're concerned for their safety. 309 00:14:36,394 --> 00:14:39,334 PERSON: Your brother Victor? - Yes. 310 00:14:39,401 --> 00:14:41,572 PERSON: Your sister Rena? - Yes. 311 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:44,811 ♪♪ ♪♪ 312 00:14:44,878 --> 00:14:47,316 - There was a perimeter created 313 00:14:47,383 --> 00:14:49,888 around where we were going to bury our loved ones. 314 00:14:49,955 --> 00:14:52,761 CELIA: They were protecting us from anybody else 315 00:14:52,827 --> 00:14:55,032 that might want to take out more hits 316 00:14:55,098 --> 00:14:56,534 during the gathering. 317 00:14:56,602 --> 00:14:58,640 - There were snipers in the trees. 318 00:14:58,706 --> 00:15:00,978 - There were friends of mine who didn't come to the funeral 319 00:15:01,044 --> 00:15:02,280 and told me, I'm very sorry. 320 00:15:02,347 --> 00:15:03,583 I can't go to your dad's funeral. 321 00:15:03,650 --> 00:15:05,286 I'm afraid I'm going to be killed. 322 00:15:05,352 --> 00:15:09,027 - There's an overarching sense of just terror. 323 00:15:09,093 --> 00:15:10,831 The boogeyman is really big. 324 00:15:10,898 --> 00:15:14,638 Anywhere, anytime, you don't really know what or why. 325 00:15:14,705 --> 00:15:18,512 ♪♪ ♪♪ 326 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:21,819 Right after the funeral, literally within 24 hours, 327 00:15:21,886 --> 00:15:23,154 we had to be packed and ready 328 00:15:23,221 --> 00:15:25,594 and were whisked away by the FBI 329 00:15:25,661 --> 00:15:27,363 into Witness Protection. 330 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:29,167 They changed our last name to DeVeaux, 331 00:15:29,233 --> 00:15:30,970 and that we had to be very careful. 332 00:15:31,037 --> 00:15:32,507 We couldn't tell anyone where we were. 333 00:15:32,575 --> 00:15:35,713 - We couldn't hardly ever leave. 334 00:15:35,780 --> 00:15:37,717 And our mother-- she had lost everything. 335 00:15:37,784 --> 00:15:39,153 She had lost her whole community, 336 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:41,559 her support structure, her family. 337 00:15:41,626 --> 00:15:46,501 She was spiraling into just a depressive state. 338 00:15:46,569 --> 00:15:48,673 LISA: My dad was such a rock-- 339 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:50,309 I mean, for her, for us... 340 00:15:50,376 --> 00:15:52,079 EMILY: Mm-hmm. - For our community. 341 00:15:52,146 --> 00:15:54,017 That... 342 00:15:54,084 --> 00:15:57,023 loss was really incalculable. - Yeah. 343 00:15:57,089 --> 00:15:59,862 - And I think it's something that... 344 00:15:59,929 --> 00:16:03,535 you know, honestly, she just never recovered from. 345 00:16:03,603 --> 00:16:06,843 ♪♪ ♪♪ 346 00:16:06,910 --> 00:16:08,713 [camera shutter clicks] 347 00:16:08,779 --> 00:16:10,750 DAVID: We have four murders. 348 00:16:10,817 --> 00:16:12,120 These weren't random killings. 349 00:16:12,187 --> 00:16:14,257 They were targeted assassinations. 350 00:16:14,323 --> 00:16:16,227 Law enforcement had a pretty good idea 351 00:16:16,294 --> 00:16:18,398 Heber and Aaron did this, 352 00:16:18,465 --> 00:16:21,606 but they didn't have the necessary evidence 353 00:16:21,673 --> 00:16:23,141 to prove it. 354 00:16:24,812 --> 00:16:28,318 And then not long after the murders, 355 00:16:28,385 --> 00:16:31,626 there was a development 356 00:16:31,692 --> 00:16:33,763 that proved to be very important. 357 00:16:33,830 --> 00:16:37,236 ♪♪ ♪♪ 358 00:16:37,303 --> 00:16:39,240 LINDSAY: Police in Arizona get a tip 359 00:16:39,307 --> 00:16:40,475 that this group of people 360 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:42,513 are staying in this dingy motel, 361 00:16:42,581 --> 00:16:44,250 acting a little suspicious. 362 00:16:44,317 --> 00:16:46,020 And when police arrive, 363 00:16:46,087 --> 00:16:48,659 they find this group of clean-cut kids 364 00:16:48,726 --> 00:16:50,798 driving stolen cars. 365 00:16:50,864 --> 00:16:53,435 As police dig through the cars for evidence, 366 00:16:53,502 --> 00:16:55,339 they find a copy of a newspaper 367 00:16:55,406 --> 00:16:57,510 reporting on the 4 o'clock murders 368 00:16:57,578 --> 00:17:00,783 the day after it had happened. 369 00:17:00,850 --> 00:17:04,524 There's also a map of the Houston area. 370 00:17:04,592 --> 00:17:07,329 Rena Street is circled right in the middle-- 371 00:17:07,396 --> 00:17:09,635 the street where Duane 372 00:17:09,702 --> 00:17:12,774 and his eight-year-old daughter Jenny were murdered. 373 00:17:12,841 --> 00:17:15,079 - There were a number of other things, 374 00:17:15,145 --> 00:17:18,553 like what appeared to be disguises. 375 00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:21,558 The stuff that was in these trucks 376 00:17:21,625 --> 00:17:24,497 was pretty good circumstantial evidence 377 00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:26,367 that these people had something to do 378 00:17:26,434 --> 00:17:29,775 with what had gone on in Texas. 379 00:17:29,842 --> 00:17:33,783 LINDSAY: The police arrested them on auto-theft charges. 380 00:17:33,849 --> 00:17:37,056 And one of the men... 381 00:17:37,123 --> 00:17:39,928 happens to be Heber LeBaron. 382 00:17:39,995 --> 00:17:42,533 ♪♪ ♪♪ 383 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,242 REPORTER: Authorities say it wasn't until a week later 384 00:17:47,309 --> 00:17:48,646 when a Phoenix investigator 385 00:17:48,713 --> 00:17:50,382 called the Houston Police Department 386 00:17:50,449 --> 00:17:52,353 that they realized who they had. 387 00:17:52,420 --> 00:17:54,023 - Investigators began talking to one another 388 00:17:54,090 --> 00:17:57,931 and put together some details that were similar, 389 00:17:57,998 --> 00:18:00,135 both in Houston and in Phoenix. 390 00:18:00,202 --> 00:18:02,841 And it was that type of information yesterday 391 00:18:02,908 --> 00:18:04,678 that led our investigators 392 00:18:04,745 --> 00:18:06,514 to believe that the people that we already had in custody 393 00:18:06,582 --> 00:18:09,320 could, in fact, be involved in some cases in Houston. 394 00:18:09,387 --> 00:18:11,792 - I've been a prosecuting attorney for over 40 years. 395 00:18:11,859 --> 00:18:14,665 I was called to the office of the United States Attorney, 396 00:18:14,731 --> 00:18:18,606 who had a case that they would like us to handle for them, 397 00:18:18,673 --> 00:18:21,612 and this turned out to be the LeBaron case. 398 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:23,883 LINDSAY: So, as they start piecing together 399 00:18:23,950 --> 00:18:25,887 this terrifying LeBaron puzzle, 400 00:18:25,954 --> 00:18:29,294 they think that Heber is the leader 401 00:18:29,361 --> 00:18:32,499 of the 4 o'clock assassinations. 402 00:18:32,567 --> 00:18:35,539 But the problem is, they're having a very difficult time 403 00:18:35,607 --> 00:18:37,410 putting together a case to try him 404 00:18:37,477 --> 00:18:39,782 and other members of the KOG. 405 00:18:39,849 --> 00:18:42,888 [distant siren wailing] 406 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,927 SCOTT: The big problem with the case was, 407 00:18:45,994 --> 00:18:48,198 you have these murders 408 00:18:48,265 --> 00:18:51,437 where they match up in almost every way. 409 00:18:51,504 --> 00:18:54,878 It's like one killer had cloned himself or herself, 410 00:18:54,945 --> 00:18:58,251 acted in three places at the exact same moment. 411 00:18:58,318 --> 00:19:00,522 And in American law, 412 00:19:00,590 --> 00:19:02,761 you have to know which one did which murder. 413 00:19:02,827 --> 00:19:05,232 [dramatic music] 414 00:19:05,298 --> 00:19:09,040 The police knew, the FBI knew who the three killers were. 415 00:19:09,107 --> 00:19:12,848 They were very confident that the killers were Heber... 416 00:19:12,915 --> 00:19:15,821 ♪♪ ♪♪ 417 00:19:15,887 --> 00:19:18,793 Richard LeBaron... 418 00:19:18,859 --> 00:19:21,665 and Doug Barlow. 419 00:19:21,732 --> 00:19:24,905 What they couldn't do was match up 420 00:19:24,971 --> 00:19:27,109 which of those three had done which murder. 421 00:19:27,176 --> 00:19:29,982 And if you can't do that, you can't bring somebody to trial. 422 00:19:30,049 --> 00:19:32,687 ♪♪ ♪♪ 423 00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:34,691 TERRY: What did we have? We had nothing. 424 00:19:34,758 --> 00:19:36,896 No one can put them there at the time, 425 00:19:36,962 --> 00:19:39,501 no person to put them in Texas at the time, 426 00:19:39,568 --> 00:19:40,871 no person to put them, 427 00:19:40,937 --> 00:19:43,275 you know, acquiring these things, really. 428 00:19:43,341 --> 00:19:45,446 And even then, if you could put them acquiring the things, 429 00:19:45,512 --> 00:19:47,751 how could you relate the things to the actual event? 430 00:19:47,818 --> 00:19:48,920 You couldn't. 431 00:19:48,987 --> 00:19:51,257 - You can think you've got the right people, 432 00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,061 but you still have to meet the standard. 433 00:19:53,127 --> 00:19:55,466 You have to prove things beyond a reasonable doubt 434 00:19:55,532 --> 00:19:57,336 when you get to trial. 435 00:19:57,403 --> 00:19:58,773 - But in Arizona, 436 00:19:58,839 --> 00:20:01,411 officials aren't having a hard time at all 437 00:20:01,477 --> 00:20:04,116 building a pretty solid auto-theft case. 438 00:20:04,183 --> 00:20:07,957 [judge speaking indistinctly] 439 00:20:08,024 --> 00:20:11,198 SCOTT: When they get busted on the auto-theft charges, 440 00:20:11,264 --> 00:20:13,869 they make the decision to plead out, 441 00:20:13,936 --> 00:20:14,938 to plead guilty to them. 442 00:20:15,005 --> 00:20:16,408 My feeling is they do it 443 00:20:16,475 --> 00:20:19,380 because you'll get a lesser sentence by pleading guilty, 444 00:20:19,447 --> 00:20:21,317 rather than going to trial. 445 00:20:21,384 --> 00:20:25,192 And then maybe you sort of fall off the radar down the road 446 00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:26,762 on these murders you did. 447 00:20:26,829 --> 00:20:29,033 So I think that for a lot of strategic reasons, 448 00:20:29,099 --> 00:20:32,106 they thought, okay, let's just plead out. 449 00:20:32,173 --> 00:20:34,611 ♪♪ ♪♪ 450 00:20:34,678 --> 00:20:36,448 LINDSAY: You've got Heber LeBaron 451 00:20:36,514 --> 00:20:38,819 and Doug Barlow sentenced to 10 years, 452 00:20:38,886 --> 00:20:41,524 and Richard LeBaron is sentenced to 3 1/2 years, 453 00:20:41,592 --> 00:20:42,860 because he's a minor. 454 00:20:42,927 --> 00:20:45,834 But in 1988, it was pretty common for convicts 455 00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:49,473 to serve half the time sentence or even less. 456 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:52,079 So they were still a threat. 457 00:20:52,146 --> 00:20:56,054 ♪♪ ♪♪ 458 00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:57,489 - Before Mark died, 459 00:20:57,557 --> 00:21:00,196 I had already been accepted into a college. 460 00:21:00,262 --> 00:21:02,133 I was so excited. 461 00:21:02,199 --> 00:21:04,604 After Mark died 462 00:21:04,671 --> 00:21:07,577 and the 4 o'clock murders happened, 463 00:21:07,644 --> 00:21:11,117 there was a big discussion among the administration. 464 00:21:11,183 --> 00:21:14,859 They thought that if the parents found out 465 00:21:14,925 --> 00:21:16,094 who I was 466 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,632 that they would unenroll their children 467 00:21:18,699 --> 00:21:20,803 if they didn't think they were safe. 468 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:23,776 They told me if I changed my name 469 00:21:23,843 --> 00:21:28,084 and swear that I was not going to reveal who I was 470 00:21:28,151 --> 00:21:30,422 to any of the students, 471 00:21:30,489 --> 00:21:33,328 they would let me come. 472 00:21:33,395 --> 00:21:37,136 It was a very weighty decision for me, 473 00:21:37,203 --> 00:21:40,342 especially because I knew 474 00:21:40,409 --> 00:21:43,414 how much Lillian depended on me. 475 00:21:43,481 --> 00:21:44,851 But at the same time, 476 00:21:44,918 --> 00:21:48,158 I felt like I had to move on with my life. 477 00:21:48,224 --> 00:21:50,162 So I told Lillian that I had made the decision 478 00:21:50,229 --> 00:21:53,168 that I wanted to go ahead and continue my education 479 00:21:53,234 --> 00:21:54,671 and go to college. 480 00:21:54,738 --> 00:21:57,409 And she was supportive of that. 481 00:21:57,476 --> 00:21:59,681 ♪♪ ♪♪ 482 00:21:59,748 --> 00:22:02,987 I mean, it was hard to leave the children behind-- 483 00:22:03,054 --> 00:22:05,894 you know, Emily and Lisa and the other kids-- 484 00:22:05,961 --> 00:22:07,731 because I was so close to them 485 00:22:07,797 --> 00:22:10,736 and I was so involved in their lives. 486 00:22:10,803 --> 00:22:15,746 But I felt like I was doing the right thing. 487 00:22:15,813 --> 00:22:20,489 - During this time where my mother was really suffering, 488 00:22:20,556 --> 00:22:22,761 her life as she had known it had collapsed. 489 00:22:22,828 --> 00:22:25,633 And I think that as strong as my mother was, of course, 490 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,671 there was just an aloneness at that time 491 00:22:27,738 --> 00:22:30,542 that just can't be overstated. 492 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:33,683 I remember that morning. 493 00:22:33,749 --> 00:22:38,592 I got up and went to check on the laundry. 494 00:22:38,659 --> 00:22:40,896 And my mom was standing in there. 495 00:22:40,963 --> 00:22:43,201 She turned around, and she was crying. 496 00:22:43,268 --> 00:22:45,807 And then I said, Mom, I just want to let you know, 497 00:22:45,873 --> 00:22:48,947 we're going to be okay, that I really feel like, you know, 498 00:22:49,013 --> 00:22:52,219 God's going to take care of us and we're going to be okay. 499 00:22:52,286 --> 00:22:55,694 ♪♪ ♪♪ 500 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,496 And I hugged her. 501 00:22:57,564 --> 00:22:59,133 I went back to bed. 502 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,074 And, I mean, it was really only minutes later, 503 00:23:03,141 --> 00:23:04,978 I heard the sound 504 00:23:05,045 --> 00:23:08,252 of what, you know, you know is a gunshot sound. 505 00:23:08,318 --> 00:23:09,654 And then... 506 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:14,964 ♪♪ ♪♪ 507 00:23:15,031 --> 00:23:18,305 I just--I knew she was gone. 508 00:23:18,372 --> 00:23:20,009 [crying] I just remember thinking, 509 00:23:20,075 --> 00:23:24,851 I can't believe our whole life is turned so upside down. 510 00:23:24,918 --> 00:23:27,289 [sniffles] 511 00:23:27,356 --> 00:23:31,197 ANNA: When Lillian took her own life... 512 00:23:31,264 --> 00:23:34,269 I remember just being shocked. 513 00:23:34,336 --> 00:23:36,540 It was like losing your mom. 514 00:23:38,111 --> 00:23:40,248 - The tragedy of Lillian's suicide 515 00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:41,752 is that she was just one 516 00:23:41,819 --> 00:23:44,324 in a list of many former followers 517 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:46,561 who took their own lives. 518 00:23:48,031 --> 00:23:49,835 Three years after testifying 519 00:23:49,901 --> 00:23:53,676 against his own father in court... 520 00:23:53,742 --> 00:23:57,282 Isaac LeBaron died by suicide as well. 521 00:23:57,349 --> 00:24:04,330 ♪♪ ♪♪ 522 00:24:04,397 --> 00:24:05,800 [telephone ringing] 523 00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:07,670 DAVID: In this period after, 524 00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:10,508 the murder case in Houston had cooled off some. 525 00:24:11,946 --> 00:24:13,616 Leads had been exhausted. 526 00:24:13,682 --> 00:24:16,855 All the people that could have been talked to were talked to, 527 00:24:16,922 --> 00:24:21,164 but it really wasn't leading to anything specific. 528 00:24:21,231 --> 00:24:25,005 LINDSAY: Police have Heber in jail for auto theft... 529 00:24:25,072 --> 00:24:28,412 but he's essentially gotten away with murder. 530 00:24:28,478 --> 00:24:30,181 Without a major break 531 00:24:30,248 --> 00:24:33,021 or someone from the KOG coming forward, 532 00:24:33,088 --> 00:24:36,561 the murders are in danger of never being solved. 533 00:24:36,628 --> 00:24:38,999 - You don't prosecute a Mafia don 534 00:24:39,066 --> 00:24:43,041 without somebody in the family turning 535 00:24:43,107 --> 00:24:47,182 and giving evidence against the Mafia don. 536 00:24:47,249 --> 00:24:49,320 It's the same thing with this family. 537 00:24:49,386 --> 00:24:52,459 They may be even a tougher nut to crack 538 00:24:52,526 --> 00:24:55,165 because they're related by blood 539 00:24:55,232 --> 00:24:58,105 and they're related by this ideology 540 00:24:58,171 --> 00:25:01,845 that has vengeance and violence at its core. 541 00:25:01,912 --> 00:25:04,217 What law enforcement needed badly 542 00:25:04,283 --> 00:25:08,524 was someone on the inside who could open the door. 543 00:25:08,592 --> 00:25:12,032 [telephone ringing] 544 00:25:12,099 --> 00:25:16,742 The Utah detective gets a phone call... 545 00:25:16,808 --> 00:25:19,380 from Cynthia LeBaron, 546 00:25:19,447 --> 00:25:21,919 who was down in Mexico. 547 00:25:21,986 --> 00:25:24,992 Cynthia is a daughter of Ervil LeBaron. 548 00:25:25,058 --> 00:25:27,730 Cynthia tells the detective 549 00:25:27,797 --> 00:25:31,504 that some things have happened in Mexico, 550 00:25:31,572 --> 00:25:36,080 that she and her sister were afraid for their lives, 551 00:25:36,147 --> 00:25:38,852 that they would be willing to talk. 552 00:25:38,919 --> 00:25:41,057 She wants us to meet her in Texas. 553 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:43,261 - This is a huge break for law enforcement 554 00:25:43,328 --> 00:25:45,232 because she was part of the group in Phoenix. 555 00:25:45,298 --> 00:25:48,806 They know she knows who did what in the 4 o'clock murders. 556 00:25:48,873 --> 00:25:50,977 ♪♪ ♪♪ 557 00:25:51,044 --> 00:25:52,981 So Cynthia comes across. 558 00:25:53,048 --> 00:25:56,520 She's met by investigators at the U.S.-Mexican border. 559 00:25:56,588 --> 00:25:58,626 ♪♪ ♪♪ 560 00:25:58,692 --> 00:25:59,995 DAVID: Now, on the one hand, 561 00:26:00,061 --> 00:26:02,433 we thought we're being set up for an ambush. 562 00:26:02,499 --> 00:26:05,706 On the other hand, we thought, well, maybe they're serious. 563 00:26:05,773 --> 00:26:07,610 We can't ignore this possibility. 564 00:26:07,677 --> 00:26:09,146 We have to take advantage of it. 565 00:26:09,213 --> 00:26:12,252 - That very same day, they cut a deal. 566 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,695 Anything she says in this interview... 567 00:26:16,762 --> 00:26:18,465 will not be used against her. 568 00:26:18,531 --> 00:26:22,807 So, once she gets that promise, she starts singing. 569 00:26:22,874 --> 00:26:26,848 ♪♪ ♪♪ 570 00:26:26,915 --> 00:26:30,054 - Cynthia and I were best friends as little girls. 571 00:26:30,121 --> 00:26:34,062 - Cynthia and her siblings 572 00:26:34,129 --> 00:26:36,467 lived with us in Ensenada. 573 00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:40,042 Their mother would go to the U.S. to work, 574 00:26:40,108 --> 00:26:43,347 and my mom helped raise those children at the time. 575 00:26:43,414 --> 00:26:46,655 So we knew them very well. 576 00:26:46,721 --> 00:26:49,994 - Cynthia admitted to her part 577 00:26:50,061 --> 00:26:52,700 in the plot to kill the people in Texas. 578 00:26:52,767 --> 00:26:54,871 ♪♪ ♪♪ 579 00:26:54,938 --> 00:26:57,075 She admitted to keeping surveillance 580 00:26:57,142 --> 00:26:58,846 on one of the victims. 581 00:26:58,912 --> 00:27:00,850 TERRY: Cynthia was basically a lookout. 582 00:27:00,916 --> 00:27:03,656 She called Heber and said, he's there now. 583 00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:05,793 ♪♪ ♪♪ 584 00:27:05,860 --> 00:27:08,231 DAVID: She knew all about the plan--she was part of it. 585 00:27:08,297 --> 00:27:10,904 She described who was assigned to do what, 586 00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:13,776 who was to kill Duane, who was to kill Mark, 587 00:27:13,843 --> 00:27:16,548 who was to kill Ed. 588 00:27:16,615 --> 00:27:18,953 - She not only names Heber and the other killers 589 00:27:19,019 --> 00:27:20,556 in the 4 o'clock murders. 590 00:27:20,623 --> 00:27:23,862 She gives investigators another piece of evidence, which is, 591 00:27:23,929 --> 00:27:26,735 Aaron is in charge of the KOG. 592 00:27:26,802 --> 00:27:30,008 ♪♪ ♪♪ 593 00:27:30,075 --> 00:27:32,279 Heber is his hitman. 594 00:27:32,346 --> 00:27:34,250 ♪♪ ♪♪ 595 00:27:34,316 --> 00:27:36,822 And they had planned the 4 o'clock murders 596 00:27:36,888 --> 00:27:39,259 for 2 years. 597 00:27:39,326 --> 00:27:41,264 SCOTT: All along, law enforcement 598 00:27:41,331 --> 00:27:44,771 has been thinking that Heber LeBaron 599 00:27:44,838 --> 00:27:47,911 was the one mighty and strong-- he is the leader of the cult. 600 00:27:47,978 --> 00:27:50,415 But in fact, it was Aaron LeBaron 601 00:27:50,482 --> 00:27:52,620 who was the one mighty and strong. 602 00:27:52,687 --> 00:27:55,258 ♪♪ ♪♪ 603 00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:59,968 - Basically, we learned that Aaron is more like Ervil, 604 00:28:00,035 --> 00:28:02,574 in the sense that Aaron 605 00:28:02,641 --> 00:28:05,647 understands the religion really, really, really well 606 00:28:05,713 --> 00:28:09,287 and is more hands off. 607 00:28:09,353 --> 00:28:12,560 DAVID: They were told from the time they were born 608 00:28:12,627 --> 00:28:16,467 that they were the anointed, that they were the exceptional, 609 00:28:16,534 --> 00:28:18,905 that they were the people that were going to inherit 610 00:28:18,972 --> 00:28:21,043 the Kingdom of God on Earth 611 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:24,483 if they did the things Ervil expected them to do. 612 00:28:25,987 --> 00:28:27,923 - The information that Cynthia had 613 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:31,063 became extremely valuable in multiple cases, 614 00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:33,534 including Dan Jordan's murder. 615 00:28:35,372 --> 00:28:38,211 DAVID: Cynthia knew the plan for killing Dan Jordan. 616 00:28:38,278 --> 00:28:41,952 She knew who was communicating to the people in Mexico 617 00:28:42,018 --> 00:28:43,521 to get it done. 618 00:28:45,225 --> 00:28:48,097 - Cynthia told them that the KOG purposely played 619 00:28:48,164 --> 00:28:51,504 on Dan's sympathies to get in with the family. 620 00:28:51,571 --> 00:28:53,843 This really was a long con. 621 00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:57,550 While KOG members and Aaron are living with Dan Jordan, 622 00:28:57,617 --> 00:29:01,291 Heber's hiding out in Mexico for months, 623 00:29:01,357 --> 00:29:03,962 just waiting for the right time and the right moment 624 00:29:04,029 --> 00:29:05,966 for Dan Jordan's murder. 625 00:29:07,670 --> 00:29:09,006 They knew the hunting trip 626 00:29:09,073 --> 00:29:12,345 would be a time that Dan would be isolated. 627 00:29:12,412 --> 00:29:15,919 Aaron tells Heber when and where they would be. 628 00:29:15,986 --> 00:29:17,924 Heber comes up from Mexico. 629 00:29:17,991 --> 00:29:19,961 Now he's hiding in the woods, 630 00:29:20,027 --> 00:29:22,834 lying in wait to kill Dan Jordan. 631 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:24,270 [gunshot] 632 00:29:24,337 --> 00:29:27,576 Aaron orchestrated a near-perfect crime. 633 00:29:27,643 --> 00:29:30,583 - Aaron was still out there on the run, 634 00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:33,956 and the possibility of him coming to kill you 635 00:29:34,022 --> 00:29:36,995 for one reason or another still existed. 636 00:29:37,062 --> 00:29:41,070 But what we'd just been told by Cynthia 637 00:29:41,137 --> 00:29:42,907 was a game changer. 638 00:29:42,973 --> 00:29:46,381 It was what we needed to get a case prosecuted 639 00:29:46,447 --> 00:29:48,284 in Texas, 640 00:29:48,351 --> 00:29:51,725 and Cynthia was taken into the Witness Protection Program 641 00:29:51,791 --> 00:29:56,166 almost immediately after she gave us this information. 642 00:29:56,233 --> 00:29:59,373 - Even though Aaron remains a fugitive on the lam, 643 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,912 the Feds decide to go ahead and prosecute 644 00:30:01,978 --> 00:30:04,016 the remaining suspects in custody. 645 00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:07,055 ♪♪ ♪♪ 646 00:30:07,122 --> 00:30:10,929 But until Aaron is behind bars... 647 00:30:10,996 --> 00:30:12,332 the threat of violence 648 00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:14,771 is always in the back of people's minds. 649 00:30:14,838 --> 00:30:18,110 ♪♪ ♪♪ 650 00:30:20,749 --> 00:30:23,655 [dramatic music] 651 00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,927 ♪♪ ♪♪ 652 00:30:25,994 --> 00:30:27,262 ANNA: For my birthday, 653 00:30:27,329 --> 00:30:30,101 Mark and Lillian had purchased me a hope chest... 654 00:30:30,168 --> 00:30:31,838 - Hope chest, yeah. 655 00:30:31,905 --> 00:30:33,575 - Where I could begin planning 656 00:30:33,642 --> 00:30:37,249 for my future life as a married woman. 657 00:30:37,315 --> 00:30:40,856 And so, when I had a boyfriend for the very first time, 658 00:30:40,923 --> 00:30:42,226 I strongly suspected 659 00:30:42,292 --> 00:30:44,598 that he was going to ask me to marry him. 660 00:30:44,664 --> 00:30:47,436 And, you know, of course, the answer was yes. 661 00:30:47,502 --> 00:30:52,379 I was operating on probably less than a shoestring budget. 662 00:30:52,446 --> 00:30:54,984 And Celia had a friend of our family 663 00:30:55,051 --> 00:30:57,289 give me a beautiful dress. 664 00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,459 - I got to be her bridesmaid. 665 00:30:59,526 --> 00:31:02,265 ♪♪ ♪♪ 666 00:31:02,332 --> 00:31:03,501 ANNA: I had looked forward 667 00:31:03,568 --> 00:31:06,007 to Lillian helping me plan my wedding 668 00:31:06,074 --> 00:31:07,408 and looked forward 669 00:31:07,475 --> 00:31:10,749 to Mark giving me away on my wedding day. 670 00:31:10,816 --> 00:31:12,754 CELIA: Mark and Lillian were very absent. 671 00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:15,491 ANNA: And Mark and Lillian were very absent. 672 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,030 ♪♪ ♪♪ 673 00:31:18,097 --> 00:31:20,134 We were trying to move on with our lives, 674 00:31:20,201 --> 00:31:22,573 but things from our past 675 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,947 kept coming back and kept coming back. 676 00:31:26,013 --> 00:31:28,117 - It was still in the back of our minds, 677 00:31:28,184 --> 00:31:30,422 the KOG and the events and-- ANNA: Yeah. 678 00:31:30,488 --> 00:31:33,160 - That, you know, there could be danger. 679 00:31:33,227 --> 00:31:37,737 ♪♪ ♪♪ 680 00:31:37,804 --> 00:31:39,674 REPORTER: The victims were one-time followers 681 00:31:39,741 --> 00:31:41,778 who dared break away and were cut down 682 00:31:41,844 --> 00:31:43,481 in what is known as a blood atonement. 683 00:31:43,549 --> 00:31:45,620 This is how authorities view that atonement 684 00:31:45,686 --> 00:31:46,921 in the indictment. 685 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,226 - Conspiracy to commit murder for hire, 686 00:31:49,293 --> 00:31:50,963 interstate and foreign travel 687 00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:52,600 for the purpose of murder for hire. 688 00:31:52,667 --> 00:31:54,637 - Prosecutors believe that they'll be able, 689 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:56,941 with a conviction, to get a lengthy sentence 690 00:31:57,008 --> 00:31:58,612 without any probability of parole. 691 00:31:58,679 --> 00:32:02,820 - Even though they're in prison under auto-theft charges, 692 00:32:02,887 --> 00:32:05,125 Heber and his associates, 693 00:32:05,192 --> 00:32:07,831 Richard LeBaron and Doug Barlow, 694 00:32:07,897 --> 00:32:09,433 get put on trial. 695 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,337 - As an assistant federal public defender, 696 00:32:11,403 --> 00:32:13,642 I was assigned to represent Heber LeBaron, 697 00:32:13,709 --> 00:32:15,846 the lead defendant in this case. 698 00:32:15,913 --> 00:32:18,985 I did not expect him to be... 699 00:32:19,052 --> 00:32:23,796 as college-kid-looking as he turned out to be... 700 00:32:23,862 --> 00:32:25,933 nor, in the end, did I expect him to be 701 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,006 as candid as he was with me. 702 00:32:29,073 --> 00:32:32,847 Heber truly believed... 703 00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:36,020 what his father had told him and raised him to be. 704 00:32:36,087 --> 00:32:37,590 He believed that they were obligated 705 00:32:37,657 --> 00:32:40,629 to kill the people they were told to kill 706 00:32:40,696 --> 00:32:42,332 in order to inherit 707 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,937 all the material and spiritual wealth 708 00:32:45,004 --> 00:32:46,073 of the world. 709 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:49,179 ♪♪ ♪♪ 710 00:32:49,246 --> 00:32:50,515 DAVID: During the trial, 711 00:32:50,583 --> 00:32:53,154 Heber was as detached as anything else-- 712 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,793 just detached, not part of this. 713 00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:57,697 I'm above it all. 714 00:32:57,764 --> 00:33:00,135 I'm not going to give this the dignity 715 00:33:00,201 --> 00:33:02,538 of paying careful attention, 716 00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:04,711 although I think they were listening very carefully 717 00:33:04,777 --> 00:33:07,884 to everything that was being said... 718 00:33:07,951 --> 00:33:11,256 particularly when Cynthia took the witness stand. 719 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:13,828 ♪♪ ♪♪ 720 00:33:13,895 --> 00:33:16,500 - I had to deal with the devil, 721 00:33:16,568 --> 00:33:18,806 and I'll stand by that deal. 722 00:33:18,873 --> 00:33:20,408 But without her, 723 00:33:20,475 --> 00:33:23,648 there would have been no prosecution, none. 724 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:27,957 DAVID: Cynthia laid things out just as she had laid them out 725 00:33:28,024 --> 00:33:29,092 for us... 726 00:33:29,159 --> 00:33:31,397 ♪♪ ♪♪ 727 00:33:31,464 --> 00:33:36,140 Fearlessly, without looking or sounding intimidated, 728 00:33:36,206 --> 00:33:40,749 nervous, or uncomfortable in any way... 729 00:33:40,816 --> 00:33:43,655 although I'm sure she was all three. 730 00:33:43,722 --> 00:33:46,059 ♪♪ ♪♪ 731 00:33:46,126 --> 00:33:47,863 The trial lasted for four days. 732 00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:50,268 ♪♪ ♪♪ 733 00:33:50,334 --> 00:33:52,372 At the end of four days, it was given to the jury. 734 00:33:52,438 --> 00:33:53,809 It was in the jury's hands. 735 00:33:53,876 --> 00:33:57,382 - The outcome was in doubt, because it's a jury trial, 736 00:33:57,449 --> 00:33:59,654 and we only had to win one juror's imagination 737 00:33:59,721 --> 00:34:01,691 to hang it up. 738 00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:04,029 - I felt if we did not get a conviction, 739 00:34:04,096 --> 00:34:06,199 more people were going to die. 740 00:34:07,503 --> 00:34:12,045 - After so much injustice that followed this family, 741 00:34:12,112 --> 00:34:14,516 the verdict comes down, 742 00:34:14,584 --> 00:34:18,424 and it's guilty for all three perpetrators. 743 00:34:18,491 --> 00:34:22,498 Heber and Doug get life sentences 744 00:34:22,566 --> 00:34:24,536 for the 4 o'clock murders. 745 00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:26,506 - I think Heber has killed before, 746 00:34:26,574 --> 00:34:28,645 and I think he enjoyed killing. 747 00:34:28,711 --> 00:34:30,716 So, no, I don't think life's appropriate. 748 00:34:30,782 --> 00:34:31,918 The death penalty is. 749 00:34:31,984 --> 00:34:35,826 - As for Richard, he reaches a plea agreement 750 00:34:35,893 --> 00:34:39,232 and serves five years. 751 00:34:39,299 --> 00:34:41,437 - When I found out later about the verdict 752 00:34:41,503 --> 00:34:43,374 and that they were going to be spending 753 00:34:43,441 --> 00:34:45,044 a lot of time in prison, 754 00:34:45,111 --> 00:34:46,748 I felt safer. 755 00:34:46,815 --> 00:34:48,852 CELIA: It was better that they be in prison, 756 00:34:48,919 --> 00:34:51,692 but there are a lot of mixed emotions. 757 00:34:51,758 --> 00:34:53,060 - Yes. 758 00:34:53,127 --> 00:34:55,098 - These are people that you love, that you care about. 759 00:34:55,165 --> 00:34:56,668 It was heart-wrenching. 760 00:34:56,735 --> 00:35:00,843 - I mean, anybody that was close to the story, I think, 761 00:35:00,909 --> 00:35:03,514 felt a collective relief. 762 00:35:03,582 --> 00:35:06,688 LISA: You know, Heber did send us a letter 763 00:35:06,754 --> 00:35:08,825 that he wanted to take responsibility 764 00:35:08,892 --> 00:35:11,463 and acknowledge for killing our father 765 00:35:11,530 --> 00:35:13,636 and acknowledge the role 766 00:35:13,702 --> 00:35:15,939 that he played in our mother's death. 767 00:35:16,006 --> 00:35:19,313 ♪♪ ♪♪ 768 00:35:19,379 --> 00:35:22,252 But I will never forget our mother, 769 00:35:22,319 --> 00:35:26,193 in her deepest grief, prayed and forgave him 770 00:35:26,259 --> 00:35:27,997 and told us, you have to forgive him 771 00:35:28,064 --> 00:35:31,504 and, like, release him, that God will handle it. 772 00:35:31,571 --> 00:35:35,010 We did not grow up with the burden of unforgiveness. 773 00:35:35,077 --> 00:35:38,383 And it's the most tremendous gift 774 00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:40,254 that our mother really could've ever given us, 775 00:35:40,321 --> 00:35:42,125 as far as I'm concerned. 776 00:35:42,192 --> 00:35:43,662 - Lisa and I have been through... 777 00:35:43,729 --> 00:35:47,035 - A lot. - A lot of complex situations. 778 00:35:47,101 --> 00:35:48,605 And, you know, here we are. 779 00:35:48,672 --> 00:35:51,043 We still have a very close bond, 780 00:35:51,110 --> 00:35:52,411 and I'm very grateful. - Mm-hmm. 781 00:35:52,478 --> 00:35:55,518 There was just such profound fear for so long. 782 00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:57,723 So I was like, I'm not going to let this run my life. 783 00:35:57,790 --> 00:36:00,361 I'm not going to run away from death 784 00:36:00,428 --> 00:36:01,464 and these gruesome things. 785 00:36:01,530 --> 00:36:03,434 I'm going to... 786 00:36:03,501 --> 00:36:05,137 make it my bitch. 787 00:36:05,204 --> 00:36:08,979 - [chuckling] 788 00:36:09,045 --> 00:36:10,716 - It's hard to decide 789 00:36:10,783 --> 00:36:13,956 if justice is ever served when so much is lost, 790 00:36:14,022 --> 00:36:16,794 but I think this was finally a step in the right direction. 791 00:36:16,861 --> 00:36:19,934 But someone was still skirting justice. 792 00:36:20,001 --> 00:36:22,105 REPORTER: Aaron LeBaron, now 24, 793 00:36:22,172 --> 00:36:24,342 leader of the conspiracy, according to authorities, 794 00:36:24,409 --> 00:36:25,745 still at large in Mexico, 795 00:36:25,812 --> 00:36:27,182 Aaron having been designated 796 00:36:27,248 --> 00:36:29,352 as the grand patriarch of this violent sect. 797 00:36:29,419 --> 00:36:31,557 ♪♪ ♪♪ 798 00:36:36,166 --> 00:36:39,339 - In 1995, we learned that Aaron's been taken 799 00:36:39,406 --> 00:36:41,043 into custody in Mexico. 800 00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:43,615 [dramatic music] 801 00:36:43,682 --> 00:36:46,554 - We finally were able to convince Mexico 802 00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:50,128 to arrest him and get him extradited. 803 00:36:50,195 --> 00:36:52,098 - I didn't give orders, 804 00:36:52,165 --> 00:36:55,004 neither am I leader of a cult like the newspapers say. 805 00:36:55,071 --> 00:36:58,712 I'm a... 806 00:36:58,779 --> 00:37:00,916 director of an English school. 807 00:37:00,982 --> 00:37:03,788 I believe in... 808 00:37:03,855 --> 00:37:06,493 giving to other people and helping other people. 809 00:37:06,561 --> 00:37:09,567 ♪♪ ♪♪ 810 00:37:09,633 --> 00:37:10,936 DAVID: I wouldn't look at him 811 00:37:11,003 --> 00:37:15,044 and say, jeez, this guy is a master criminal. 812 00:37:15,111 --> 00:37:18,685 But then I knew differently. 813 00:37:18,752 --> 00:37:21,490 I knew that he'd had a lot more to do with all of this 814 00:37:21,558 --> 00:37:24,129 than anybody really believed. 815 00:37:24,196 --> 00:37:26,867 ♪♪ ♪♪ 816 00:37:26,934 --> 00:37:29,941 - Ervil had indoctrinated these people for years. 817 00:37:30,008 --> 00:37:32,345 We're, like, two generations in now. 818 00:37:32,411 --> 00:37:34,984 When you've been indoctrinated your entire life 819 00:37:35,051 --> 00:37:38,324 to believe that murder is a godly act, 820 00:37:38,391 --> 00:37:41,797 that really complicates your morality. 821 00:37:41,864 --> 00:37:44,103 TERRY: He was tried and convicted 822 00:37:44,169 --> 00:37:46,741 because he was the intellectual author of the homicides. 823 00:37:46,807 --> 00:37:48,444 He was the one that put it in motion. 824 00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:50,816 And he was sentenced to 45 years in prison. 825 00:37:50,883 --> 00:37:55,759 ♪♪ ♪♪ 826 00:37:55,825 --> 00:37:58,932 - I never met Ervil LeBaron in the flesh, 827 00:37:58,998 --> 00:38:00,468 but I lived and worked 828 00:38:00,535 --> 00:38:03,274 in the shadow of his ghost for years 829 00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:05,011 and didn't stop 830 00:38:05,078 --> 00:38:09,286 until after the conviction of Aaron in Texas. 831 00:38:09,353 --> 00:38:11,356 - It's hard to get an exact count 832 00:38:11,423 --> 00:38:13,928 in the wake of this 30-year crime spree, 833 00:38:13,995 --> 00:38:17,937 but we do know that around 33 people were killed, 834 00:38:18,004 --> 00:38:21,276 somewhere around 9 completed suicide, 835 00:38:21,343 --> 00:38:23,414 and countless others suffered 836 00:38:23,481 --> 00:38:26,755 at the hands of all of this violence. 837 00:38:26,821 --> 00:38:29,627 - As long as that doggone book's out there, 838 00:38:29,693 --> 00:38:32,567 The Book of the Covenant... 839 00:38:32,633 --> 00:38:35,605 there's always a potential for someone to pick it up and say, 840 00:38:35,672 --> 00:38:38,110 I'm the one mighty and strong now, 841 00:38:38,177 --> 00:38:41,216 and that should be a concern to everyone. 842 00:38:41,283 --> 00:38:44,022 ♪♪ ♪♪ 843 00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:47,596 - Colonia LeBaron, where Ervil first started out, 844 00:38:47,663 --> 00:38:49,199 still exists today. 845 00:38:49,266 --> 00:38:50,735 The people living there 846 00:38:50,802 --> 00:38:53,140 are trying to put the past behind them. 847 00:38:53,206 --> 00:38:55,746 And then 2019 happens. 848 00:38:55,812 --> 00:38:58,183 - Families mourning after a brutal massacre-- 849 00:38:58,250 --> 00:39:01,357 three mothers and six of their children killed. 850 00:39:01,423 --> 00:39:04,329 - The LeBarons find themselves in the headlines again 851 00:39:04,395 --> 00:39:06,299 for murder and death. 852 00:39:06,366 --> 00:39:08,838 ♪♪ ♪♪ 853 00:39:08,905 --> 00:39:10,909 Three cars are crossing the border 854 00:39:10,976 --> 00:39:15,184 from Mexico into Texas when the cars are ambushed. 855 00:39:15,251 --> 00:39:18,123 ♪♪ ♪♪ 856 00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:21,329 And inside the cars are women, 857 00:39:21,396 --> 00:39:24,570 mothers, and their children. 858 00:39:24,637 --> 00:39:26,473 - At first, I thought to myself, oh, my God, 859 00:39:26,540 --> 00:39:28,043 is the cult back? 860 00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:30,481 Is this the new chapter? 861 00:39:30,549 --> 00:39:31,885 Since then, it seems clear 862 00:39:31,951 --> 00:39:34,088 that other factors have been at work. 863 00:39:34,155 --> 00:39:36,126 REPORTER: Mexican officials believe they were caught 864 00:39:36,193 --> 00:39:38,598 in the crosshairs of cartel violence, 865 00:39:38,665 --> 00:39:40,769 saying that a criminal gang confused them 866 00:39:40,836 --> 00:39:44,910 for a group aligned with the Sinaloa Cartel. 867 00:39:44,977 --> 00:39:48,250 - It's just so sad, because these families living there 868 00:39:48,317 --> 00:39:51,557 completely disavow Ervil's teachings. 869 00:39:51,624 --> 00:39:53,460 And yet, it seems like 870 00:39:53,527 --> 00:39:57,502 the sort of curse of LeBaron murderers isn't going away. 871 00:39:57,570 --> 00:40:03,949 ♪♪ ♪♪ 872 00:40:04,015 --> 00:40:06,420 [soft music playing on television] 873 00:40:06,487 --> 00:40:13,634 ♪♪ ♪♪ 874 00:40:19,212 --> 00:40:21,517 ADINE: Oh, my God. 875 00:40:21,584 --> 00:40:23,989 CELIA: So they have to start with Los Molinos? 876 00:40:24,055 --> 00:40:26,226 FAYE: This is Los Molinos. CELIA: Oh, God. 877 00:40:26,293 --> 00:40:27,963 ADINE: Oh, my gosh. 878 00:40:28,030 --> 00:40:30,434 - There was a made-for-TV movie that came out in the early '90s 879 00:40:30,501 --> 00:40:31,937 called Prophet of Evil. 880 00:40:32,004 --> 00:40:34,008 It was about our father, Ervil. 881 00:40:34,075 --> 00:40:37,816 ♪♪ ♪♪ 882 00:40:37,883 --> 00:40:40,287 CELIA: Oh, man. ANNA: This is horrible. 883 00:40:40,354 --> 00:40:43,060 ADINE: That's terrible. 884 00:40:43,127 --> 00:40:45,766 - Watching it now, it's just horrifying 885 00:40:45,832 --> 00:40:49,106 how much violence there was 886 00:40:49,172 --> 00:40:50,876 in our family history. 887 00:40:50,943 --> 00:40:53,214 - Just heart-wrenching to see 888 00:40:53,281 --> 00:40:56,019 because they're representing people that I love. 889 00:40:56,086 --> 00:40:59,192 So it's hard to see what they've done with their lives. 890 00:40:59,258 --> 00:41:01,697 - And the thing is that they were just brainwashed. 891 00:41:01,764 --> 00:41:04,369 And when you take away that brainwashing, 892 00:41:04,435 --> 00:41:06,373 we were always good people. 893 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,514 [somber music] 894 00:41:10,582 --> 00:41:12,218 FAYE: The places that they're showing there 895 00:41:12,284 --> 00:41:14,188 are way too nice. - I know. 896 00:41:14,255 --> 00:41:15,491 [laughter] 897 00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:18,197 - We did not live this nice, okay? 898 00:41:18,263 --> 00:41:19,199 - Something was bumping me, 899 00:41:19,266 --> 00:41:20,969 and I couldn't figure out what it was. 900 00:41:21,036 --> 00:41:22,840 It's just this really nice house, well kept, maintained. 901 00:41:22,906 --> 00:41:24,744 ANNA: And we weren't even allowed outside! 902 00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:27,749 HYRUM: With white picket fence. [laughter] 903 00:41:28,952 --> 00:41:32,693 - Through it all, I never really lost my faith. 904 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,598 I always had a relationship with God. 905 00:41:37,335 --> 00:41:40,407 I have 10 children, 21 grandchildren, 906 00:41:40,474 --> 00:41:42,746 and it just tickles my heart 907 00:41:42,813 --> 00:41:45,451 to be with them and play with them. 908 00:41:45,517 --> 00:41:48,123 And even though I went through all that crap, 909 00:41:48,190 --> 00:41:51,764 I'm a very happy person, and I have a very happy life. 910 00:41:51,831 --> 00:41:53,902 ♪♪ ♪♪ 911 00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:56,473 - Oh, there's the Mexican jail where you were... 912 00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:59,379 BOTH: Conceived! [laughter] 913 00:41:59,446 --> 00:42:02,619 - I wanted to become a nurse, 914 00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:07,228 but my life was set out for me by religious doctrine. 915 00:42:07,295 --> 00:42:10,769 So I didn't think I was smart enough. 916 00:42:10,836 --> 00:42:14,108 I didn't think that was possible. 917 00:42:14,175 --> 00:42:16,948 But now as an adult, I became a nurse, 918 00:42:17,015 --> 00:42:19,720 and I recently became a master gardener. 919 00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:22,258 If that little girl could just see me now... 920 00:42:23,929 --> 00:42:26,667 CHILDREN: Kill the police. Kill the police. 921 00:42:26,734 --> 00:42:28,972 Kill the police. Kill the police. 922 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,541 - No way would that ever happen. 923 00:42:30,609 --> 00:42:33,513 - We were taught to say... CELIA AND ANNA: I don't know! 924 00:42:33,581 --> 00:42:35,184 I don't know! 925 00:42:35,251 --> 00:42:37,756 [laughter] 926 00:42:37,823 --> 00:42:39,693 - Currently, my beliefs about religion 927 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,764 is basically an atheist. 928 00:42:41,831 --> 00:42:44,035 I think all religions are cults. 929 00:42:44,102 --> 00:42:47,441 It's just some are better than others. 930 00:42:47,508 --> 00:42:50,448 ♪♪ ♪♪ 931 00:42:50,514 --> 00:42:54,757 I'm a Sergeant First Class in the U.S. Army. 932 00:42:54,824 --> 00:42:56,526 I've deployed four times. 933 00:42:56,594 --> 00:42:58,831 ♪♪ ♪♪ 934 00:42:58,898 --> 00:43:03,274 I try to be beneficial to humanity and the planet. 935 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:06,045 - You were considered the military leader-- 936 00:43:06,112 --> 00:43:07,716 - Oh, that's Bryan Cranston right there. 937 00:43:07,782 --> 00:43:08,918 CELIA: Oh, my God! Breaking Bad! 938 00:43:08,985 --> 00:43:10,054 - Wait. Rewind, rewind! 939 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,826 ANNA: Who is he? CELIA: Breaking Bad! 940 00:43:12,893 --> 00:43:14,195 HYRUM: He's only one of the most famous-- 941 00:43:14,262 --> 00:43:15,464 ADINE: The guy from Malcolm in the Middle! 942 00:43:15,531 --> 00:43:16,968 Yes! Oh, my God. 943 00:43:17,034 --> 00:43:18,136 HYRUM: I didn't know who he was the first time 944 00:43:18,203 --> 00:43:19,640 I watched this 20 years ago. ANNA: What? 945 00:43:19,707 --> 00:43:22,178 This is where he made his big debut. 946 00:43:22,245 --> 00:43:24,617 - Debut. 947 00:43:24,684 --> 00:43:28,691 - It's been over 40 years since I escaped my father's cult. 948 00:43:28,758 --> 00:43:32,065 ♪♪ ♪♪ 949 00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:34,402 I mean, it was a shock to me 950 00:43:34,469 --> 00:43:38,745 when I learned that what we had experienced is called trauma. 951 00:43:38,812 --> 00:43:42,586 To be able to grow and become the person that I am today, 952 00:43:42,653 --> 00:43:44,990 to heal enough 953 00:43:45,057 --> 00:43:48,130 that I was able to write my own story 954 00:43:48,197 --> 00:43:51,402 and to publish my book... 955 00:43:51,469 --> 00:43:54,008 I want to be an inspiration to others-- 956 00:43:54,075 --> 00:43:58,283 anyone who's experienced abuse, neglect, abandonment. 957 00:43:58,350 --> 00:44:00,889 Those things don't have to define us today. 958 00:44:00,956 --> 00:44:03,728 ♪♪ ♪♪ 959 00:44:03,795 --> 00:44:06,901 I have overcome all of the odds, 960 00:44:06,968 --> 00:44:09,439 and here I am. 961 00:44:09,506 --> 00:44:12,044 So it's me and Hyrum that are in the movie so far. 962 00:44:12,111 --> 00:44:14,082 - Yes. - We were in the Veracruz raid! 963 00:44:14,148 --> 00:44:16,186 CELIA: Not specifically, but you were one of those kids. 964 00:44:16,253 --> 00:44:19,660 Hyrum assisted by opening the door. 965 00:44:19,727 --> 00:44:22,799 - Thanks, Hyrum. 966 00:44:22,866 --> 00:44:26,506 - I ran away from the cult 36 years ago, 967 00:44:26,574 --> 00:44:29,846 and I never turned back. 968 00:44:29,913 --> 00:44:32,819 I have three grown children. 969 00:44:32,886 --> 00:44:35,057 I have a career in finance. 970 00:44:35,124 --> 00:44:38,798 And in my process, I had to evaluate 971 00:44:38,865 --> 00:44:42,204 every belief that I had, 972 00:44:42,271 --> 00:44:45,277 every thought, practically, that went through my mind 973 00:44:45,344 --> 00:44:49,286 and look at it and say, do I really believe this? 974 00:44:49,352 --> 00:44:51,690 Or is this what I was taught to believe? 975 00:44:51,757 --> 00:44:56,500 ♪♪ ♪♪ 976 00:44:56,568 --> 00:44:58,270 NARRATOR ON TV: Since Ervil LeBaron's death, 977 00:44:58,336 --> 00:45:00,207 his children and members of his church 978 00:45:00,274 --> 00:45:02,779 have committed 15 additional murders. 979 00:45:02,846 --> 00:45:05,919 His legacy has continued. 980 00:45:05,986 --> 00:45:07,689 - But no more! - Not anymore. 981 00:45:07,756 --> 00:45:10,929 ANNA: No more. - No more. 982 00:45:10,996 --> 00:45:12,899 ANNA: There's no telling this story 983 00:45:12,966 --> 00:45:15,805 without bringing up this past. 984 00:45:15,872 --> 00:45:19,145 ♪♪ ♪♪ 985 00:45:19,212 --> 00:45:22,352 CELIA: I am ready now to embrace the wholeness 986 00:45:22,418 --> 00:45:24,256 of who I am 987 00:45:24,322 --> 00:45:28,397 and what it means today to be a LeBaron. 988 00:45:28,463 --> 00:45:29,834 - Mm-hmm. 989 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:32,171 - It's something that I'm proud of. 990 00:45:32,238 --> 00:45:35,978 - It's been over 30 years. 991 00:45:36,045 --> 00:45:40,722 - Ervil's children are not about that anymore. 992 00:45:40,788 --> 00:45:43,460 - Ervil's children are the ones who want all of that 993 00:45:43,527 --> 00:45:46,033 to stop more than everyone. CELIA: Yeah. 994 00:45:46,099 --> 00:45:48,069 - I promise you that.