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[line ringing]

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[operator] Nine-one-one,
what's your emergency?

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[man 1] There's a burglar
in this building!

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Someone threw a kid from up there!
Oh my God!

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[operator] Threw a kid?
From what height?

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[man 1] From the sixth floor.
They've thrown a kid!

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There's a burglar in the building!
Oh my God!

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Good Lord!

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[operator] Oh my God!

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[man 1] Please, dear!

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[operator] I'm just filling out…

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[man 1] Can you hear me?

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[operator] I can hear you.
Help is on the way.

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[tense music playing]

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[man 2] The girl was found on the lawn.

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The safety net
on the window of Isabella's room

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was cut with a knife and scissors.

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[woman 1] All we could think of was,

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"Oh my God, no!
That's the love of our lives."

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"They've thrown the love of our lives
through a window."

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Awaiting in expectation to hear Alexandre
and Anna Carolina's statements.

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[man 2] They were at the apartment.

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The police are certain of that.

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People saw their own loved ones
in that victim.

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JUSTICE BE DONE

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I had never seen a case
that moved public opinion this much.

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They made a spectacle out of it.

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What the fuck?

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♪ Justice! Justice! ♪

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[man 3] The jurors are led to believe
the prosecution knows everything.

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But that's not true in Isabella's case.
We don't know everything.

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It was atypical, a situation
the police hadn't encountered before.

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[man 4] The mom left the girl there alive.

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When she went to pick her up,
she was dead.

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They fabricated a version of the facts
to calm society.

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Criminal materiality!

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Who killed Isabella?

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[woman 2] The perfect crime doesn't exist
even if it's premeditated.

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The lies started coming out.

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[woman 3] Excuse us!

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Our legal system wasn't ready
for a case with such importance.

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[woman 4] Then,
the police started to investigate.

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The news started to come out,
and it was one surprise after another,

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one shocking fact after another.

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A LIFE TOO SHORT:
THE ISABELLA NARDONI CASE

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Look at this. So beautiful.

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[woman 4] So many photos of you.

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-Look, Gi. The two of you.
-June festival.

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I'm Isabella's cousin.
Four months older than she was.

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ISABELLA'S COUSIN

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There we go.

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We were inseparable.

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Our parents had us
when they were very young,

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so we basically had each other.

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I think I was much calmer than her.

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She had a stronger personality.

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She was more…

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Agitated.

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She was more agitated, exactly.

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I was more laid back, I was calmer.

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She fought for what she wanted,
so to speak.

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You used to be…

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Yeah, I had an easier time
taking things as they are.

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I took a "no" better than her.

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[heart beating]

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[Ana] I was 17 when I got pregnant.
I was still in school.

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And it scared us.

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-But my brother…
-[Giovanna] My dad.

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[Ana] …her father,
conceived a few months earlier.

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[Rosa] I was so happy
to have a granddaughter.

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Or a grandson. I didn't know.

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Then we heard about Carolina.

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That was different
because Carolina was 17.

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[gentle music playing]

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ISABELLA'S FATHER

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[Ana] We got divorced
when she was 11 months old.

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During the four years since then,
we had our ups and downs.

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In the beginning,

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our relationship was like
a typical relationship

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between divorced parents.

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We got along, but that got harder
after he met Jatobá.

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ISABELLA'S STEPMOTHER

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We wouldn't talk much then.

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But I could notice that she would act
in a more mature manner

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after she had her own kids.

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[gentle music continues]

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Isabella loved her siblings.

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She really liked hanging out with them.
She liked being around them.

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For a mom who lets her kid spend
the weekend at her dad's,

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it's comforting to know that they enjoyed
spending time with their siblings.

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I wanted her to be a part of that.

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They were a part of her life,
so she had to experience that.

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My last memory of her…

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On that Friday, she went to her dad's.

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MARCH 29TH, 2008
NORTH OF SÃO PAULO

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[pensive music playing]

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[Ana] When the accident happened,

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my day had been pretty regular.

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It was a Saturday.
I was hanging out with my friends.

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We were at a barbecue,
and my phone rang.

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"Mom, Isa was in an accident."

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"What do you mean?"
"She fell off the building."

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"Where?" "At Alexandre's."

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"She fell, she fell."

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[man 5] It was so quiet that night.

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You could hear the dew
falling from the sky.

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Then we started to hear a ruckus
in the apartment next door.

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[woman 6] When we went to bed,
we heard a couple fighting.

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It was a quick fight,
about 15 to 20 minutes.

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Then the silence was restored.

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Right after that,
we heard a person on the ground floor.

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Yelling, "They tossed Isabella!
Help! They tossed Isabella!"

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I said, "Let's go downstairs
and see if we can help."

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I went towards Isabella.
She was lying there on the grass.

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There was a glass door close by.
It was dark.

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When I crouched to see if she had a pulse,

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Alexandre Nardoni came out
through the glass door.

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He said, "There's someone in my apartment.
He threw her out of the window."

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He said that someone in his apartment
had thrown the kid through the window.

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And he said that this person
was wearing a black shirt.

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The doorman was wearing black.

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[pensive music playing]

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[man 6] We changed out
of our pajamas and left.

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It seemed like an eternity to get there.

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Five minutes felt like five hours.

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[Rosa] We were praying on our way there

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because we couldn't even imagine
what happened.

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We had no idea what had happened.

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[sirens wailing]

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When we got there,
there were lots of police officers.

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My husband tried to go in by car,
but the police didn't let us.

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So I got out of the car
and ran down the street.

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I remember I got out of the car
while it was still moving.

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I opened the door and ran in.

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When I got there, she was on the ground.

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She was breathing very slowly.

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[tender music playing]

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I wasn't even worried
about questioning what happened,

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why it happened, or how it happened.

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All I wanted was for her to get help
as soon as possible.

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So, I didn't leave her side,
not even for a second.

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I was comforted back then
because she was still breathing.

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Alexandre Alves, 29 years old,

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arrived home with Isabella,
his current wife,

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his three-year-old daughter,
and an 11-month-old baby.

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They went in through this garage gate.

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It was cold that night.

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Right after he parked,
according to other sources,

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he took the six-year-old to the apartment
that's on the sixth floor of the building.

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The building is very safe.

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Every balcony has safety nets,
as you can see.

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It's a brand-new building,

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but a few minutes after that,
according to other sources,

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he came downstairs
to pick up the other children,

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and the girl was found right here,
on the lawn.

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[sirens wailing in the distance]

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[Ana] I remember
I tried to get in the ambulance.

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I tried to stay by her side,
but they didn't let me go in the back.

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I went in the front.

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I remember being inside the ambulance

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and leaving the scene.

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[tender music playing]

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[Rosa] So when we got to the hospital,

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as far as we knew,
it was just an accident.

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So I was there,
I was hugging my daughter,

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and then the doctor came to talk to us.

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It wasn't long before
they showed up to talk to us,

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to tell us that she hadn't made it

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and that we could go into the bedroom.

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Unfortunately, it was very brief.

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Very brief.

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[Rosa] We all fell apart.

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Carolina actually fell to the ground,
sliding on the walls towards the ground.

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So I went to my daughter, and I held her.

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She looked at me and said,
"Mom, why did this happen to me?"

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I had no words.

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What would I even say to my daughter?
She'd just lost her daughter.

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[gentle music playing]

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After a while, I could only say,

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"Sweetie, we need to let her go
so she can move on."

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When I finally realized
she hadn't made it,

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the only thing I could whisper
into her ear was,

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"You can go."

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"Go in peace."

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"I'll take care
of everything on this end."

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Those were my last words to her.

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Then, the police started to investigate.

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The news started to come out,

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and it was one surprise after another,
one shocking fact after another.

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[siren wails]

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POLICE

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SÃO PAULO PD
9TH PRECINCT

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We're here at 9th Precinct Station

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in the north of São Paulo,
and there's been a lot of movement.

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Lots of reporters here
throughout the afternoon and the evening

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waiting in expectation to hear Alexandre
and Carolina's statements.

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I was on call when we received the news

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that a child had fallen from
their parents' apartment's window.

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That's the first piece
of information we'd gotten.

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JOURNALIST AND WRITER

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At first, everyone was unsure
if it had been a crime,

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a homicide, something of the sort,

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or if it had been an accidental fall.

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Back then, there was so much news
of children who, when left alone,

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had fatally fallen from windows.

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ANOTHER CHILD FALLS OFF A WINDOW

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CHILD FALLS OFF A WINDOW
AND SUFFERS HEAD TRAUMA

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CHILD FALLS OFF A WINDOW
OF A BUILDING IN PERDIZES

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They asked me to go
to the 9th Precinct Station,

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and I got information during
a collective interview

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with Officer Calixto Calil Filho.

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There was a suspicion,
including the family, of a homicide.

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A five-year-old child
around 11:30 p.m. last night

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was thrown
from the sixth floor of a building.

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It wasn't an accident.

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Somebody cut the window's safety net
and threw her from there.

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It's impossible for a five-year-old

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to cut the net
and throw herself at that time of night.

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According to the dad,

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she was sleeping
when she got to the apartment.

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She was already sleepy.
She had already slept on the father's lap.

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So, there's a possibility of homicide,

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because someone cut the safety net
and threw her out the window.

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[pensive music playing]

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Really, at that point,
I thought it had been an accident,

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whatever it was that happened.

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But then they told us
we had to go to the police station.

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What was I supposed to do
at the police station?

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What do you mean, the police station?
Come on!

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So we still have to go through all this?
It was an accident.

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9TH PRECINCT

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[woman 7] I was on call
that Saturday night.

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My shift had started at eight p.m.,
and right after that, at 12 a.m.,

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a state police officer
told me about the case.

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At first, he said,
"There was a burglar in a building,

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and during his break-in,
a child was thrown from the sixth floor."

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[pensive music playing]

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The police request a deposition
from the father and the stepmother.

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[man 2] The police asked them
if they'd ever received any threats,

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if they had enemies,

243
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if someone wanted
to hurt them or the child.

244
00:15:40,397 --> 00:15:42,191
[Renata] They talked so much
about the doorman,

245
00:15:42,274 --> 00:15:44,693
so I started looking into his entire life,

246
00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:47,237
researching his background,
finding out who he was.

247
00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:50,908
Especially because of how suspicious
the couple was towards him.

248
00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:55,120
[man 7] I called one of the members
of the board of residents immediately.

249
00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:58,123
He was one of
the building's first residents.

250
00:15:58,207 --> 00:15:59,875
I told him a girl had fallen.

251
00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:02,920
At first,
I thought she had fallen off a balcony.

252
00:16:03,003 --> 00:16:04,588
I didn't know back then.

253
00:16:04,672 --> 00:16:07,383
I told him to call an ambulance
and the police.

254
00:16:10,177 --> 00:16:12,513
[man 4] What he did is exactly
what anyone else would've done

255
00:16:12,596 --> 00:16:14,056
in that situation.

256
00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:15,599
He called the building manager,

257
00:16:15,683 --> 00:16:18,811
and the building manager went there
and confirmed it was true.

258
00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:24,191
[Renata] When I got to the scene,
it was very crowded.

259
00:16:24,274 --> 00:16:26,986
There were a lot of civilians,
state police officers.

260
00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:28,862
So I assessed the apartment.

261
00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:38,497
Right off the bat,
I noticed there were no signs of break-in.

262
00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:42,084
Then I walked into the living room,
and I noticed some drops of blood.

263
00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:46,005
So I had already found my first answer.

264
00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:47,965
Something had happened in the apartment

265
00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:51,135
before the victim
had been thrown out the window.

266
00:16:51,218 --> 00:16:53,345
It was clear something had happened.

267
00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:58,267
And, at that point, I couldn't be sure
the blood was Isabella's.

268
00:16:58,350 --> 00:16:59,852
I hadn't even seen her body,

269
00:16:59,935 --> 00:17:03,772
so I still didn't know
who bled in the apartment and why.

270
00:17:06,275 --> 00:17:09,153
Our job is to assess
the scene more carefully,

271
00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:12,614
to look for other blood spills,

272
00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:16,702
or any other residues
compatible to our forensic assessment.

273
00:17:16,785 --> 00:17:18,162
Even after a few days?

274
00:17:18,662 --> 00:17:19,747
The house was messy,

275
00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:21,582
but it wasn't anything
out of the ordinary.

276
00:17:21,665 --> 00:17:23,834
The people who lived there
were just messy.

277
00:17:24,918 --> 00:17:25,753
Nothing was broken.

278
00:17:25,836 --> 00:17:28,172
It's not like everything
was out of its place

279
00:17:28,255 --> 00:17:30,507
like we typically see
in cases of homicide.

280
00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:33,635
It wasn't like a typical homicide
or break-in mess.

281
00:17:34,887 --> 00:17:36,764
It was a regular mess.

282
00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:47,357
[Renata] That evidence pointed to the fact
that it wasn't a burglar who did this.

283
00:17:47,441 --> 00:17:50,027
It wasn't a break-in, it was a homicide.

284
00:17:51,487 --> 00:17:54,990
There was blood on the scene,
and there was no evidence of burglary.

285
00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,201
The place wasn't turned upside down.

286
00:17:58,327 --> 00:18:00,162
Also, there was no evidence of a fight,

287
00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:03,916
of someone trying to escape,
or even of a fight between the couple.

288
00:18:14,551 --> 00:18:18,263
[Rodrigo] We were informed
he is the child's father.

289
00:18:18,347 --> 00:18:19,973
He's giving a statement,

290
00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:22,184
ISABELLA'S FATHER

291
00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:24,770
and here's an exclusive look at it.

292
00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:32,277
[Renata] As they were making
their statement, I would ask them,

293
00:18:32,361 --> 00:18:35,781
"Is that possible? Why would a burglar
throw a child out the window?"

294
00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:37,950
I'd ask them these questions

295
00:18:38,033 --> 00:18:41,120
so we could reach
a more plausible hypothesis

296
00:18:41,203 --> 00:18:43,956
of what could've happened
in the apartment.

297
00:18:46,458 --> 00:18:49,002
[Rodrigo] You are watching
this exclusive scene.

298
00:18:49,086 --> 00:18:53,006
Anna Carolina, the stepmother,
a young woman.

299
00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:54,466
She seems to be scared.

300
00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:57,094
Her face is tense.

301
00:18:57,177 --> 00:18:58,762
GIRL DIES AFTER FALLING

302
00:18:58,887 --> 00:19:01,306
[man 8] At first,
it was just an ordinary case.

303
00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:06,353
On the very first day, the newspapers
didn't highlight this case that much.

304
00:19:06,436 --> 00:19:08,772
It started gaining attention over time.

305
00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:10,816
[pensive music playing]

306
00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:16,405
[Ana] On Sunday, I left home.

307
00:19:17,322 --> 00:19:20,701
I was on my way to the funeral,
and some TV channel called me.

308
00:19:20,784 --> 00:19:25,205
For an average family like mine,
tragedies like this only happen on TV.

309
00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:28,792
Suddenly, I was on TV.
It was my family on TV.

310
00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:40,470
MARCH 30TH, 2008

311
00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:43,640
It's knowing that my daughter
didn't get a chance to read,

312
00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:46,476
to write, to study…

313
00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:50,606
to turn 15,

314
00:19:50,689 --> 00:19:53,817
to have dreams, to go to college.

315
00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:55,027
She just didn't.

316
00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:01,074
We gotta be there for each other.

317
00:20:01,158 --> 00:20:05,454
Sometimes we lose our strength,
but we try to be there for each other.

318
00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:14,087
FOREVER OUR LITTLE STAR

319
00:20:17,674 --> 00:20:20,260
[man 9] We're talking
about a crime against a child,

320
00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:23,055
and that kind of crime moves people.

321
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,724
It happened to a middle-class family.

322
00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:29,186
The context of the crime
caught people's eyes.

323
00:20:29,269 --> 00:20:30,103
Thank you.

324
00:20:30,187 --> 00:20:32,397
[reporter 1] We studied together,
fourth grade.

325
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,317
We support you.

326
00:20:37,444 --> 00:20:39,029
I couldn't leave my house.

327
00:20:41,448 --> 00:20:45,577
Because TV reporters, radio reporters,
or newspaper journalists

328
00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:48,413
would stand in front of my house
like they were on call.

329
00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:50,791
Day and night.

330
00:20:52,501 --> 00:20:54,461
Sorry, I understand
where you're coming from,

331
00:20:54,544 --> 00:20:56,338
but I'd rather be left alone.

332
00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:59,091
They said the girl fell off the building,

333
00:20:59,174 --> 00:21:01,885
but an experienced policeman gets there
and says it wasn't like that.

334
00:21:01,969 --> 00:21:03,095
Right, Officer Calil?

335
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,765
[Calixto] We're facing
a complex case here.

336
00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:09,685
We're being extremely cautious.

337
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:13,981
We're checking every single piece
of information that gets to us,

338
00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:15,816
anyone who was mentioned,

339
00:21:15,899 --> 00:21:19,653
anyone who saw someone
doing something in the building.

340
00:21:19,736 --> 00:21:21,238
[pensive music playing]

341
00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:26,994
[woman 8] The on-call forensic officer
got there first.

342
00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:29,871
As soon as he noticed
that something was off,

343
00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:31,081
he reached out to me.

344
00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:36,962
I was informed it was a burglary
that ended up in death.

345
00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:38,880
So I went there and assessed the scene.

346
00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:41,008
"Okay, so what happened here?"

347
00:21:41,091 --> 00:21:43,844
"What happened is the parents left her
in the apartment sleeping,

348
00:21:43,927 --> 00:21:46,888
then went to get the other two,
who were in the car."

349
00:21:47,389 --> 00:21:49,599
"When they came back, she was there."

350
00:21:50,183 --> 00:21:53,103
"She was defenestrated.
She was thrown out of the window."

351
00:21:53,186 --> 00:21:55,647
"She was lying right next
to the doorman's post."

352
00:21:56,898 --> 00:22:00,068
"Was she harmed?"
"No, they said she wasn't harmed."

353
00:22:00,902 --> 00:22:03,071
Okay, but if she wasn't harmed,

354
00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:05,782
why is there blood
by the apartment's entrance?

355
00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:08,493
That bloodstain was at the doorstep,

356
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:13,832
which indicates that it had been produced
from the outside in.

357
00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:15,959
This is something
that caught my attention.

358
00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:17,502
This can't be ignored.

359
00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:19,921
The girl was hurt outside
of the apartment.

360
00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:21,757
[pensive music playing]

361
00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:25,802
[Sergio] There was a lot
of laundry to be done

362
00:22:25,886 --> 00:22:28,638
on the washing tub
and on the washing machine,

363
00:22:30,891 --> 00:22:33,352
but I noticed a bucket
with a cloth inside.

364
00:22:33,435 --> 00:22:35,520
It looked like a cloth diaper.

365
00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:38,648
It was sunken in water,

366
00:22:38,732 --> 00:22:42,569
so I thought, "There's so much stuff here,
and just this one bucket?"

367
00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:45,238
"Let's take that."

368
00:22:45,322 --> 00:22:47,115
What happened? Blood.

369
00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:48,909
There was blood on the diaper.

370
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,954
FORENSIC POLICE

371
00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:56,917
[man 10] The first contact
we had with the case

372
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,086
happened very early in the morning.

373
00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:03,673
We got a phone call
from the morgue's front desk

374
00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:05,842
telling us there was
a civil police officer

375
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:08,762
who wanted to ask us
some questions about a case.

376
00:23:09,346 --> 00:23:10,389
CORONER

377
00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:14,184
The officer wanted to know
if there were any wounds of the body

378
00:23:14,267 --> 00:23:18,188
that would be enough to cause
the blood spills found on the scene.

379
00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:24,194
In fact, she did have
a wound on her forehead.

380
00:23:25,487 --> 00:23:28,198
It was caused by
a pointy object of some sort.

381
00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:31,284
It left a small wound on her forehead.

382
00:23:31,868 --> 00:23:34,663
Her face was blueish, her nails too.

383
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:38,625
She had some marks on her neck
that indicated that someone squeezed it.

384
00:23:40,293 --> 00:23:42,462
-Clear signs of asphyxiation.
-[dramatic sting]

385
00:23:42,546 --> 00:23:47,300
INSTITUTE OF FORENSIC MEDICINE

386
00:23:49,469 --> 00:23:52,431
[man 4] Her death was caused
by multiple traumas

387
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:56,184
and mechanical asphyxiation
from choking.

388
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:05,110
When she fell, she didn't die immediately.
She was alive for some time.

389
00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:08,196
She was hurt.

390
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,158
She was going through
a serious asphyxiation process

391
00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:12,784
that ended up killing her.

392
00:24:17,038 --> 00:24:19,458
There were several signs on the body

393
00:24:19,541 --> 00:24:23,837
indicating she had been choked
before being defenestrated.

394
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,633
POLICE

395
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:33,597
[Renata] When Alexandre talked to me,
he started by asking,

396
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,432
"Did you catch the burglar?"

397
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,435
[sirens wailing]

398
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,189
[Francisco] Over 30 officers
were called to duty that night

399
00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:44,983
because a burglar
had broken into the apartment

400
00:24:45,066 --> 00:24:47,194
and thrown the girl out of the window.

401
00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:51,531
Naturally, the police set
the perimeter on the block

402
00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:55,410
and canvassed the surroundings
to find the supposed aggressor.

403
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:01,791
No personal belongings were missing,
there was no evidence of a break-in,

404
00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:04,794
there was no report of any other person
being seen in the building

405
00:25:04,878 --> 00:25:06,046
or going down the elevator.

406
00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:07,714
[sirens continue wailing]

407
00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:12,177
[Rosa] When we got to the hospital,
Alexandre came to talk to me.

408
00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:14,638
He said, "Rosa, she was so happy,

409
00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:17,557
and then the burglar
just tossed her from up there."

410
00:25:18,558 --> 00:25:20,185
"What are you talking about?"

411
00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:22,812
"When I got there,
the door was broken down."

412
00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:26,233
"What do you mean?
Why would he toss her from up there?"

413
00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:34,157
He was acting like a caged lion,
going from one side to the other.

414
00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:38,787
"I saw the burglar. He was wearing black.
He broke the door down. I saw it."

415
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:42,916
I was like, "Well, look at your size.
Why didn't you fight him, damn it?"

416
00:25:43,458 --> 00:25:46,419
"Why didn't you fight him?"
Then he changed the subject.

417
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:49,130
POLICE

418
00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:52,342
[Renata] They had
the same train of thought.

419
00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:54,219
It was like they rehearsed it.

420
00:25:56,304 --> 00:25:59,933
She noticed the story
the couple was telling was pretty odd

421
00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:04,646
because the sequence of facts
they were telling

422
00:26:05,605 --> 00:26:09,109
did not match
what the witnesses' had already told her.

423
00:26:12,028 --> 00:26:15,365
He was more worried
about adding someone to the crime scene

424
00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:18,201
and blaming this person
for his daughter's death

425
00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,995
than actually solving the crime.

426
00:26:20,912 --> 00:26:23,540
He didn't have questions,
he had information,

427
00:26:23,623 --> 00:26:25,584
and he tried to convince me it was true.

428
00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:26,960
I thought it was odd.

429
00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:32,716
[Rodrigo] She just realized
that the press is here.

430
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,884
Her attorney is trying to hide her.

431
00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:38,722
She's leaving the room now.

432
00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:42,142
But we've already gotten some images.

433
00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:46,104
[reporter 2] What happened if they arrived
together from the grandmother's house?

434
00:26:46,187 --> 00:26:49,691
That will be determined by the police.
The police are doing their job.

435
00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:51,985
We're here to assist
during interrogations.

436
00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:53,612
We can't say who did this.

437
00:26:54,904 --> 00:26:57,824
[Francisco] The couple first went
to the police station

438
00:26:58,825 --> 00:27:01,161
with a team of attorneys
right off the bat.

439
00:27:03,121 --> 00:27:05,874
They had already prepared
a power of attorney document

440
00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:07,334
to defend the couple.

441
00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:11,171
It caught our attention at the time.

442
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,757
[Rogério] In cases that grab
the media's attention,

443
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,426
those cases where
a crowd of reporters comes along,

444
00:27:16,509 --> 00:27:18,219
behind the crowd of reporters
and the cameras

445
00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:20,263
there's always
a group of civilians screaming,

446
00:27:20,347 --> 00:27:21,931
"Murderer! Justice!"

447
00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:24,225
So I remember hearing a female voice.

448
00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:27,729
"Murderer! Murderer!"

449
00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:31,524
So I look around, and I thought,
"Civilian at this hour? Really?"

450
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:34,778
But it wasn't a civilian,
it was the precinct's chief on call.

451
00:27:34,861 --> 00:27:35,987
She was yelling at them.

452
00:27:37,155 --> 00:27:40,492
In no instance did I see
this precinct chief saying that.

453
00:27:41,743 --> 00:27:45,413
And I didn't have the time
to be up to speed with what was happening

454
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:48,166
in the surroundings of the investigation.

455
00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:52,170
[Rodrigo] Notice the crowd.
Alexandre and Anna Carolina are coming.

456
00:27:52,253 --> 00:27:53,922
Lots of people. No pushing!

457
00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:57,509
[police] Excuse us!
Don't block the car door!

458
00:27:57,592 --> 00:27:58,593
Don't block it!

459
00:28:01,596 --> 00:28:03,098
[Rodrigo] This is a ruckus.
Don't push me.

460
00:28:03,181 --> 00:28:04,432
Get a shot of the car!

461
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:07,394
Check this out.
We're right in front of the car.

462
00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:11,189
Alexandre and Anna Carolina
are coming out.

463
00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:13,983
Look over here! Get back here!

464
00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:15,985
Alexandre's coming out over here!

465
00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:18,113
-[clamoring]
-[camera shutters clicking]

466
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:21,825
At first, Ana Carolina de Oliveira
didn't point fingers at anybody.

467
00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:26,621
MOTHER AND GRANDFATHER
DEFEND FATHER AND STEPMOTHER

468
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,540
I had no reason to doubt them.

469
00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:31,334
My family didn't even think about it.

470
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:33,336
I didn't think about it.

471
00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:38,091
People would say, "He did it! He did it!"

472
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:40,385
We'd say, "No."

473
00:28:40,468 --> 00:28:43,304
"Sure, he can be cold
sometimes or whatever,

474
00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:47,350
but he would never murder his little girl

475
00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:52,230
because he loved Isa, and Isa loved him."

476
00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:01,156
[woman 2] If I were the girl's mother,

477
00:29:01,656 --> 00:29:03,241
the girl's grandmother,

478
00:29:03,324 --> 00:29:06,077
I'd be on my knees praying
for it to be another person.

479
00:29:06,161 --> 00:29:08,663
CRIMINOLOGIST

480
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:13,918
I wouldn't even imagine the girl's father
could be involved in such a story.

481
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,133
[reporter 3] The adjunct police chief
arrived with the couple's attorneys.

482
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:23,386
She didn't disclose what was discussed.

483
00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:26,723
She assured it wasn't
an official statement.

484
00:29:27,223 --> 00:29:28,600
I can't disclose anything.

485
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,478
-[reporter 4] Is it confidential?
-Yes, it's confidential.

486
00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:36,483
Investigating a crime in which the suspect
is close to the victim is a delicate task.

487
00:29:36,566 --> 00:29:39,152
It takes three times
as much responsibilities.

488
00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,780
There's no room for mistakes.

489
00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:44,824
You can't mistakenly charge
a father, or a mother,

490
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:46,701
or anyone who's close to the victim.

491
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:51,456
If that person turns out to be innocent,
they're a victim too, they're hurting.

492
00:29:52,707 --> 00:29:54,918
We can't make the mistake
of accusing a father

493
00:29:55,001 --> 00:29:58,922
of killing his own daughter
without being absolutely sure.

494
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:01,508
[Renata] What I can reveal is that,

495
00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:04,552
after having gathered evidence
on the crime scene,

496
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:08,264
we can visualize about 70%
of what happened that day.

497
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:11,768
[Renata] After two or three days
of investigation,

498
00:30:11,851 --> 00:30:14,395
I had enough evidence
to tell that they were lying.

499
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:17,774
And if that man was capable of throwing
his own daughter out of the window,

500
00:30:17,857 --> 00:30:20,652
then he's capable of running away,
of anything.

501
00:30:21,152 --> 00:30:23,321
POLICE

502
00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:25,490
[man 11] Please understand
this is a very serious crime

503
00:30:25,573 --> 00:30:27,450
involving truly arduous work.

504
00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,245
Officer Renata
is fully dedicated to this case

505
00:30:30,328 --> 00:30:32,163
and working on it exclusively.

506
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:35,750
She barely even slept
these past three days,

507
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,002
so we won't take on the demand
of closing the case

508
00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:40,588
earlier than the 30 days
determined by law.

509
00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:45,301
When everything happened,
I called Officer Renata.

510
00:30:45,385 --> 00:30:46,427
POLICE CHIEF

511
00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,847
And she said, "Sir, I'm sure of it."

512
00:30:49,556 --> 00:30:50,890
"The couple did it."

513
00:30:50,974 --> 00:30:52,600
[dramatic music playing]

514
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:54,769
[reporter 5] The police issued
a warrant for the temporary arrest

515
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,688
of Isabella's father and stepmother.

516
00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:17,125
[Rogério]
People are screaming, "Murderer."

517
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:18,960
He looks scared. He's leaving right now.

518
00:31:19,043 --> 00:31:20,879
Look, this is Alexandre.

519
00:31:21,462 --> 00:31:23,131
Alexandre, are you innocent?

520
00:31:24,215 --> 00:31:25,216
I'm innocent.

521
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,468
Why is this happening, Alexandre?

522
00:31:32,515 --> 00:31:34,309
Alexandre says he's innocent.

523
00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:36,895
The officers are protecting him.

524
00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:42,275
This is a ruckus.
People are still yelling, "Murderer."

525
00:31:42,358 --> 00:31:45,612
Alexandre is heading out
while being protected by police officers.

526
00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:49,908
He's trying to get into the building.

527
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:51,576
It's wild here.

528
00:31:52,368 --> 00:31:55,788
People are chasing him.
He's running around the precinct.

529
00:31:57,624 --> 00:31:59,709
Here… He's going in.

530
00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:04,714
[Marcelo] I'd say the case
went down a very risky path.

531
00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:07,967
If they never found
enough technical evidence

532
00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:12,096
that could confirm the suspicion
that the police had since the beginning,

533
00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:15,850
then the case would turn into a scandal.

534
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:24,025
[woman 9] Sometimes,
even in the beginning of an investigation,

535
00:32:24,692 --> 00:32:27,153
the outcome is already decided.

536
00:32:27,236 --> 00:32:29,614
But before reaching a conclusion,

537
00:32:30,365 --> 00:32:34,661
first, you need to assess
all elements found by the police chief

538
00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:37,622
during the whole course
of the investigation.

539
00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:42,460
That's a premise that cannot be abandoned
when you're building an investigation.

540
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,922
The press needs to be fast.
It needs to be swift.

541
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:47,715
It works in an immediate fashion.

542
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:48,758
So when a crime happens,

543
00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:52,387
ideally, they'd like to present
the guilty party right away.

544
00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:56,057
When justice tries
to keep up with the press,

545
00:32:56,140 --> 00:33:00,436
be that during the investigation,
be that during the trial,

546
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,021
things get messy.

547
00:33:04,273 --> 00:33:07,068
[Francisco] I must abide
by the Brazilian legislation.

548
00:33:08,111 --> 00:33:10,822
It establishes how
the parties may gather evidence,

549
00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:15,201
and, so far,
the evidence incriminates the defendants.

550
00:33:17,453 --> 00:33:19,038
A few days after the crime,

551
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:20,999
during my first interview
with a reporter,

552
00:33:21,082 --> 00:33:25,211
he asked me, "How many years
do you expect the defendant to face?"

553
00:33:26,754 --> 00:33:27,672
And I answered him,

554
00:33:27,755 --> 00:33:30,550
"Sir, we haven't even finished
the investigation yet."

555
00:33:30,633 --> 00:33:32,677
"We're not sure
if charges will be pressed,

556
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,263
if there will be a trial, a jury,
and if they'll be convicted,

557
00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:38,725
but you're already asking me
how long their sentence will be?"

558
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:40,935
-[dramatic sting]
-[dramatic music playing]

559
00:33:41,602 --> 00:33:43,396
TO THE POLICE, THERE ARE NO DOUBTS:
THEY DID IT

560
00:33:43,479 --> 00:33:47,859
[man 12] A weekly paper published
an article saying, "They did it."

561
00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:50,737
That's basically a condemnation.
That's a sentence.

562
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,655
For the Nardoni case…

563
00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:55,158
Just five years old…

564
00:33:55,908 --> 00:33:58,453
Alexandre and Anna Carolina
will testify in court…

565
00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:01,164
The mom, after all she went through
during the investigation…

566
00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:05,376
People were talking about the crime
everywhere and all the time.

567
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,212
At the bakery, at bars…
People would talk about that.

568
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,882
♪ Justice! Justice! ♪

569
00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:13,593
Isabella was thrown from the sixth floor.

570
00:34:13,676 --> 00:34:15,887
Justice. They can't get away with it.

571
00:34:16,512 --> 00:34:18,723
People were watching it
as if it was a soap opera.

572
00:34:19,807 --> 00:34:23,519
Ladies, do you really think
when a five-year-old gets scared

573
00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:26,481
they're patient enough
to grab a pair of scissors,

574
00:34:28,107 --> 00:34:29,484
a five-year-old girl,

575
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:31,569
cut the safety net and jump?

576
00:34:31,652 --> 00:34:33,946
[high-pitched whistle]

577
00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:35,281
What the fuck?

578
00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:38,743
[Ana] My life turned upside down.

579
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:44,123
Information would come to light,
new facts would come to light,

580
00:34:44,207 --> 00:34:46,751
and I was just, "What's going on?"

581
00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:50,546
[reporter 6] This is exclusive.

582
00:34:50,630 --> 00:34:54,133
Our images show Isabella's
last moments inside the supermarket.

583
00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:58,096
You'll see everything that happened
inside that store.

584
00:34:58,179 --> 00:34:59,514
These are unreleased images.

585
00:35:04,393 --> 00:35:05,603
LOUSY ACTORS

586
00:35:05,686 --> 00:35:07,480
MONSTER PARENTS

587
00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:09,524
Murderers! Murderers!

588
00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,527
[man 13] People crave tragedies.

589
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:13,653
They've been…

590
00:35:13,736 --> 00:35:15,029
PRIVATE EXPERT

591
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,782
…yearning for tragedy since Greek times.

592
00:35:20,326 --> 00:35:24,372
Could Anna Carolina Jatobá
and Alexandre Nardoni leave the country?

593
00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:27,416
♪ Justice! Justice! ♪

594
00:35:29,502 --> 00:35:30,795
Who killed Isabella?

595
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:35,091
[Rosa] It was just
blown out of proportion.

596
00:35:35,174 --> 00:35:37,677
We couldn't believe how huge it became.

597
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,221
It was on TV 24/7.

598
00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:42,974
All day every day, I was on TV.

599
00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:44,684
[reporter 7] Over the weekend,

600
00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:47,186
three witnesses residing in the building
where the crime occurred

601
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,814
provided their deposition
regarding Isabella's death

602
00:35:49,897 --> 00:35:51,315
to the investigation.

603
00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:53,609
[Rogério] I spoke with a nurse

604
00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:57,989
who mentioned hearing noises emanating
from a nearby building under construction

605
00:35:58,698 --> 00:36:01,325
which would serve
as the perfect escape route.

606
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,580
I talked to the construction workers,

607
00:36:05,663 --> 00:36:06,747
JOURNALIST AND WRITER

608
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:09,333
and I asked if they had seen anything odd.

609
00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:14,463
They said they didn't,
but someone slept there during the week,

610
00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:17,633
so maybe they would know something.

611
00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:20,344
[man 15] The foreman confirmed
the information on the phone

612
00:36:20,428 --> 00:36:23,014
with the first worker to arrive on Sunday.

613
00:36:23,514 --> 00:36:24,432
Hi, Gabriel.

614
00:36:24,515 --> 00:36:26,392
FOREMAN

615
00:36:26,475 --> 00:36:29,312
Listen, was there
a break-in here last Sunday?

616
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,230
Oh, so it was open?

617
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:34,108
No one took anything,
but they opened the place?

618
00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,234
[Gabriel] It was open.

619
00:36:35,318 --> 00:36:39,572
He told me that when he got there
in the morning on Sunday,

620
00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:44,493
he noticed that the gate
had been broken into.

621
00:36:46,662 --> 00:36:48,873
This OSB wood sheet was broken.

622
00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:52,084
It was supposed to be nailed
to the structure as the other ones.

623
00:36:52,168 --> 00:36:53,461
They're all nailed together,

624
00:36:53,544 --> 00:36:57,006
but this was broken,
so someone could've passed through.

625
00:36:58,841 --> 00:36:59,800
Nothing was taken,

626
00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:03,596
but the foreman shows us how easy it is
to access the building.

627
00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:08,309
He said, "I could tell
someone went through our stuff."

628
00:37:08,392 --> 00:37:10,436
"I knew that someone had broken in."

629
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,856
[reporter 8] Were you there
that night, Gabriel?

630
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,149
I wasn't there.

631
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:16,817
I'm not there on weekends.

632
00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:21,197
What did the civil police do?

633
00:37:21,781 --> 00:37:24,909
That article had just been published,
and the police were about to decide

634
00:37:24,992 --> 00:37:27,203
if they were going
to release the couple or not.

635
00:37:27,286 --> 00:37:28,412
But right then,

636
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:30,873
they took that construction worker
to the police station.

637
00:37:31,457 --> 00:37:34,752
He arrived at the station,
he met with the police officers,

638
00:37:35,336 --> 00:37:38,547
and chances are
he was pressured to change his story.

639
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:42,843
Then they took him to the reporters
and he said, "I didn't say anything."

640
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:45,429
"The gate wasn't broken.
It never happened."

641
00:37:46,722 --> 00:37:49,517
I know nothing.
I know nothing about a break-in.

642
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,104
-[press 1] Were you working at that time?
-No.

643
00:37:53,187 --> 00:37:54,939
-Did a burglar break in?
-No.

644
00:37:55,022 --> 00:37:56,691
-Did you give an interview?
-No.

645
00:37:56,774 --> 00:37:57,775
-No?
-No.

646
00:37:57,858 --> 00:37:59,235
What did you say?

647
00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:01,988
Nothing was stolen, and nobody broke in.

648
00:38:02,071 --> 00:38:03,739
-So nobody broke in?
-No.

649
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:04,907
-No?
-No.

650
00:38:05,741 --> 00:38:09,287
[Rogério] The problem was that
the police did not investigate this lead.

651
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:10,830
If they had investigated,

652
00:38:11,497 --> 00:38:13,749
they would have found
the person who broke in.

653
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:18,421
It was Sergeant Messias
and two other police officers.

654
00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,175
Over 30 police officers
drove over to the scene,

655
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:27,305
and they canvassed the area
as they usually do.

656
00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:30,433
And why didn't the police have information

657
00:38:30,516 --> 00:38:33,227
about the break-in
at that place on that night?

658
00:38:34,228 --> 00:38:37,773
Because the sergeant failed
to include it in his report.

659
00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:40,818
So what's the easy way out?

660
00:38:40,901 --> 00:38:43,738
You pressure an illiterate person,
a scared person,

661
00:38:43,821 --> 00:38:46,407
and say, "Look, from now on,
you deny it until the end."

662
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:48,701
And he denied it until the end.

663
00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:52,121
JUSTICE TO DECIDE TODAY
ON RELEASE OF FATHER AND STEPMOTHER

664
00:38:52,204 --> 00:38:56,625
APPELLATE JUDGE WILL MAKE A RULING
ON THE DEFENSE'S HABEAS CORPUS MOTION

665
00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:02,423
JUDGE SAYS DETENTION CANNOT BE BASED
ON SUSPICIONS ALONE

666
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:06,844
At 2:30 p.m., after a week,
Alexandre gets out of jail.

667
00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:09,096
[clamoring]

668
00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:16,896
[woman 8] Murderer!

669
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:21,567
I just have to thank God.

670
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,862
-[siren wailing]
-[tires screech]

671
00:39:37,416 --> 00:39:40,503
[man 14] We were called to escort
the couple to the police station

672
00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:43,547
where they'd be released.

673
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:46,008
That was where I first met them.

674
00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:48,969
What surprised me
was that they started laughing.

675
00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:54,683
They started talking
as if nothing had happened.

676
00:39:56,185 --> 00:39:57,395
I even asked him,

677
00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,189
"Why are you laughing?
Your daughter is dead."

678
00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:05,361
The couple will be relocated
to a safe place

679
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:08,739
as they pose no risk or danger.

680
00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:09,907
[siren wails]

681
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:21,127
APRIL 18TH, 2008

682
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,177
[Robinson] You had to be there to see it.

683
00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:33,973
The day the couple gave
their statement at the station,

684
00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:38,727
the place was filled with reporters,
cameramen, photographers,

685
00:40:38,811 --> 00:40:40,187
even helicopters.

686
00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:47,987
[Rogério] They also did something
I had never seen before.

687
00:40:51,073 --> 00:40:55,369
They scheduled the couple’s interrogation
on April 18th,

688
00:40:57,663 --> 00:41:00,082
which would've been
the victim's sixth birthday.

689
00:41:05,546 --> 00:41:08,007
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

690
00:41:14,221 --> 00:41:18,976
[Renata] I scheduled the interrogation
on the same date as Isabella's birthday

691
00:41:19,059 --> 00:41:20,561
purely by coincidence.

692
00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:23,981
Anyone assuming it was intentional
is mistaken.

693
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:25,774
It was not intentional.

694
00:41:27,776 --> 00:41:29,195
It was a strategy.

695
00:41:29,278 --> 00:41:30,362
CHIEF OF SPECIAL OPS

696
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:33,866
I'm assuming they did that
to appeal to people emotionally.

697
00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:36,660
Like an interrogation technique.

698
00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:37,661
Very common stuff.

699
00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:40,247
Have you ever heard of
"Good cop, bad cop"?

700
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,417
Even kids know about this sort of thing.

701
00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:47,796
It wasn't something done under wraps.

702
00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:52,134
They released this information.

703
00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:55,387
They even installed portable toilets
in front of the police station

704
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,140
so that the crowd could be there

705
00:41:58,224 --> 00:42:01,977
and somehow put pressure on the couple
for them to confess.

706
00:42:10,236 --> 00:42:13,197
[Marco] I know they were in there
for over 20 hours,

707
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,949
and they didn't confess.

708
00:42:20,996 --> 00:42:24,792
During the interrogation,
Alexandre Nardoni and Anna Carolina Jatobá

709
00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:27,002
denied their involvement
in Isabella's death.

710
00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:29,922
The timetables mentioned by the couple

711
00:42:30,005 --> 00:42:33,968
and the details of their arrival
to the building on March 29th

712
00:42:34,051 --> 00:42:36,804
do not match the statements
given by other witnesses

713
00:42:36,887 --> 00:42:39,181
nor the collected forensic evidence.

714
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:40,975
Alexandre Jatobá,

715
00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:43,477
father of Isabella's stepmother
Anna Carolina,

716
00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:46,063
does not question the couple's innocence.

717
00:42:46,146 --> 00:42:49,817
She said, "I can't believe
this is happening to me, Dad."

718
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,485
I said, "Be strong."

719
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,612
"Everyone goes through hardship in life,

720
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:56,532
but right now,
we need to prove your innocence."

721
00:42:56,615 --> 00:42:59,368
[press 2]
What's your greatest fear right now?

722
00:42:59,451 --> 00:43:01,078
[man 15] I don't fear anything right now.

723
00:43:01,161 --> 00:43:03,247
I'm confident. I'm sure they didn't do it.

724
00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:05,749
I'll do everything in my power
to prove it.

725
00:43:05,833 --> 00:43:08,836
[reporter 9] What if the investigators
are able to prove that they did it?

726
00:43:09,461 --> 00:43:11,380
I don't know what they'll say.

727
00:43:11,463 --> 00:43:14,216
Every day someone says
there's been a new decision

728
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:15,467
or that they have news,

729
00:43:15,551 --> 00:43:17,052
so we just have to wait.

730
00:43:17,136 --> 00:43:18,345
We can't speculate.

731
00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:23,726
[Renata] I feel like Alexandre's
father's behavior,

732
00:43:23,809 --> 00:43:26,103
his family's behavior helped a lot,

733
00:43:26,186 --> 00:43:28,230
because they were on the news a lot.

734
00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:30,190
They wanted to be on the news a lot.

735
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,903
And maybe people
would see them and think,

736
00:43:34,987 --> 00:43:38,782
"Looks like they're powerful people,
so they'll get away with it."

737
00:43:41,201 --> 00:43:42,953
I'd hear that a lot from other people.

738
00:43:43,579 --> 00:43:47,499
"Is this going to work?
Will they be arrested? They're rich."

739
00:43:49,418 --> 00:43:52,171
[reporter 10] Antonio Nardoni
is not only a father and grandfather,

740
00:43:52,254 --> 00:43:53,505
but also a defense attorney.

741
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:55,924
As a tax attorney,
he's always calm and composed.

742
00:43:56,008 --> 00:43:59,428
He appears to be instrumental
in the defendant's decisions.

743
00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:07,603
[Renata]
There was something about Alexandre.

744
00:44:07,686 --> 00:44:10,064
The look on his face,
the way he kept his head up.

745
00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:12,107
Something about him was arrogant.

746
00:44:13,317 --> 00:44:15,903
He gave me the impression
that he was thinking,

747
00:44:15,986 --> 00:44:18,322
"No matter what you do,
my dad is going to fix it."

748
00:44:18,405 --> 00:44:20,866
"I'm safe. My dad's got my back."

749
00:44:23,535 --> 00:44:26,205
Despite his age,
he didn't act like an adult.

750
00:44:26,288 --> 00:44:27,915
His dad handled everything for him.

751
00:44:27,998 --> 00:44:31,085
His matters, his conflicts,
the couple's fight.

752
00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:34,254
Even his apartment.

753
00:44:34,338 --> 00:44:38,884
Nothing was bought with his own money
because he couldn't afford it.

754
00:44:41,387 --> 00:44:45,224
Even the decoration choices
were made by the father.

755
00:44:47,601 --> 00:44:50,187
Nothing was his.
Everything was his family's.

756
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:53,148
He could treat himself to all of it
as long as he behaves.

757
00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:55,317
[pensive music playing]

758
00:44:59,780 --> 00:45:04,076
Alexandre knew absolutely nothing
about Isabella's daily routine.

759
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,287
He didn't know her teacher's name,
her pediatrician's name.

760
00:45:08,288 --> 00:45:11,125
He paid child support
because the court ordered it.

761
00:45:15,963 --> 00:45:19,299
So when you look at this child's father,
Alexandre Nardoni,

762
00:45:19,925 --> 00:45:22,302
he has a history of recurrent failures,

763
00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:26,014
recurrent attempts
of being the perfect son

764
00:45:26,098 --> 00:45:28,517
for that family followed by failure.

765
00:45:29,768 --> 00:45:31,478
He had a history of aggression,

766
00:45:33,272 --> 00:45:37,234
even towards his wife,
and even towards Isabella's mother.

767
00:45:37,317 --> 00:45:39,403
He got more aggressive over time.

768
00:45:41,572 --> 00:45:44,199
[reporter 11] Talk to us!
Talk to the press.

769
00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:48,996
[reporter 12] How are your kids?

770
00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:55,002
I remember there was a complaint made
by Anna Carolina Oliveira.

771
00:45:55,085 --> 00:45:57,129
ALEXANDRE ALVES NARDONI
ANA CAROLINA CUNHA DE OLIVEIRA

772
00:45:58,338 --> 00:46:00,007
She filed that against him,

773
00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:03,802
claiming he had threatened her
when Isabella was 16 months old

774
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:08,515
because she enrolled Isabella at a school
without his consent.

775
00:46:13,479 --> 00:46:16,523
We had to go to the police station
and file a complaint

776
00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:18,275
because he used to threaten me.

777
00:46:18,358 --> 00:46:19,485
He wanted to kill me.

778
00:46:19,568 --> 00:46:21,695
Yeah. He said he was going to kill me.

779
00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:27,910
DRIVER'S LICENSE
NAME: ALEXANDRE ALVES NARDONI

780
00:46:29,161 --> 00:46:33,624
Maybe he would sometimes spank
their children or something,

781
00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:35,709
but nothing out of the ordinary.

782
00:46:36,251 --> 00:46:38,712
Especially with Isabella.
He never did anything.

783
00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:40,923
Even her mother confirms this, so…

784
00:46:42,216 --> 00:46:44,343
What's lacking in the media coverage?

785
00:46:44,843 --> 00:46:46,428
This couple's version of the facts.

786
00:46:47,262 --> 00:46:49,306
Who doesn't remember
that notorious interview

787
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:51,934
with the Nardoni couple
for the Fantástico TV show?

788
00:46:52,935 --> 00:46:55,604
It was the most watched TV show
at the time.

789
00:46:56,355 --> 00:46:58,816
[Robinson] We went
to Antonio Nardoni and said,

790
00:46:58,899 --> 00:47:00,901
"We want to interview the couple."

791
00:47:03,529 --> 00:47:06,073
Later that night, he called us and said,

792
00:47:06,156 --> 00:47:09,159
"Okay, they'll do it.
They'll give you an interview."

793
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:10,494
It was huge.

794
00:47:10,577 --> 00:47:12,371
That was very big.

795
00:47:13,247 --> 00:47:14,081
APRIL 20TH, 2008

796
00:47:14,164 --> 00:47:16,375
[man 16] You're being accused
of a serious crime.

797
00:47:16,458 --> 00:47:17,918
How are you handling it?

798
00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:21,964
[Rogério] It was disastrous.

799
00:47:22,589 --> 00:47:25,717
They messed up the interview
because they weren't skilled speakers.

800
00:47:26,343 --> 00:47:29,471
They didn't have any experience
with these kinds of interviews.

801
00:47:31,139 --> 00:47:33,433
And the reporter took advantage of that.

802
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:37,271
How do you feel
about Isabella's tragic death?

803
00:47:38,355 --> 00:47:39,439
We're suffering.

804
00:47:40,399 --> 00:47:41,567
It all hurts us,

805
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:43,318
what people are saying about us,

806
00:47:43,402 --> 00:47:47,030
their judgement of us,
because they've sentenced us themselves

807
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:50,242
even though we're absolutely innocent.

808
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:52,619
[man 16] Right.

809
00:47:53,161 --> 00:47:56,164
Yes, we are a family,
my wife Anna Carolina and I.

810
00:47:56,248 --> 00:47:57,499
How can I put this?

811
00:47:58,041 --> 00:48:00,502
We're a family like any other, you know?

812
00:48:01,336 --> 00:48:05,299
We are all about family,
and we're united as a family.

813
00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:08,343
[Rosa] If any of us were still unsure,

814
00:48:08,427 --> 00:48:11,138
that interview on Fantastico
put our doubts to rest.

815
00:48:11,221 --> 00:48:12,973
We were absolutely sure.

816
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:16,476
[Ilana] Her cry
was childish and ridiculous.

817
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,063
She was pretending to cry.
It's not even childish.

818
00:48:20,147 --> 00:48:21,481
There were no tears.

819
00:48:22,649 --> 00:48:26,570
"We were a family.
We were a family. We were a family."

820
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:29,114
Right. I've got a family too.

821
00:48:29,197 --> 00:48:31,450
There are so many families out there

822
00:48:31,533 --> 00:48:33,744
who stab each other in the back.

823
00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:38,081
There was another thing
that caught people's attention,

824
00:48:39,082 --> 00:48:41,043
those who watched the interview.

825
00:48:41,877 --> 00:48:44,546
Whenever Alexandre tried to speak,

826
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:46,715
the stepmother would talk over him.

827
00:48:47,341 --> 00:48:49,301
He couldn't finish his sentences.

828
00:48:49,384 --> 00:48:51,762
They don't know who we really are.

829
00:48:52,971 --> 00:48:53,889
I mean…

830
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:58,393
They know us through
what they see in the media,

831
00:48:59,144 --> 00:49:02,230
but most of what they're saying about us
was made up.

832
00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:05,817
Nobody knows our family for real.

833
00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:07,861
Nobody knows who we truly are.

834
00:49:09,363 --> 00:49:11,740
After that interview on Fantástico,

835
00:49:11,823 --> 00:49:16,036
many people hastily drew the conclusion
that Jatobá was the leader of the couple.

836
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:20,999
But this thesis does not hold
under deeper assessment.

837
00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:23,001
She was the one being abused.

838
00:49:25,045 --> 00:49:29,007
She talks more, she's nervous,
she's anxious. She's not in charge.

839
00:49:41,603 --> 00:49:45,065
[Ilana] Another important detail
on Anna Carolina Jatobá's history

840
00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:48,402
is that she was clearly struggling
with depression.

841
00:49:48,485 --> 00:49:50,153
Postpartum depression.

842
00:49:50,237 --> 00:49:54,241
She was seriously depressed.
Her boy was eleven months old.

843
00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,872
[Ilana] That mess represents
her mental state.

844
00:50:01,623 --> 00:50:03,667
Her house is like a picture of her mind.

845
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:04,876
She's not okay.

846
00:50:05,794 --> 00:50:07,754
She was hurting, she was suffering.

847
00:50:08,255 --> 00:50:09,881
Who said that she was happy?

848
00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,843
Were they holding hands
at the supermarket? Sure.

849
00:50:13,635 --> 00:50:15,887
But she was isolated from all her friends.

850
00:50:15,971 --> 00:50:19,307
She never hung out with any friends,
she never got any calls.

851
00:50:19,391 --> 00:50:21,560
You couldn't find a single friend of hers.

852
00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:23,687
[pensive music playing]

853
00:50:33,155 --> 00:50:36,908
[Marcelo] Let's consider the hypothesis
that we're dealing with a normal couple,

854
00:50:36,992 --> 00:50:39,119
who aren't violent, cruel people.

855
00:50:40,996 --> 00:50:44,374
At some point, someone lost their temper
and assaulted the child.

856
00:50:44,458 --> 00:50:47,919
Let's assume for a second
that this assault wasn't meant to kill.

857
00:50:50,088 --> 00:50:52,174
Let's assume that,
even though it wasn't planned,

858
00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:53,550
it ended up happening.

859
00:50:53,633 --> 00:50:56,261
This is not just about the mistakes
that were made anymore.

860
00:50:56,344 --> 00:50:57,471
This is about a wicked person

861
00:50:57,554 --> 00:50:59,848
who committed a crime
and tried to hide it.

862
00:50:59,931 --> 00:51:02,059
I don't know
what really happened in there.

863
00:51:02,851 --> 00:51:04,936
[pensive music playing]

864
00:51:27,042 --> 00:51:27,918
[doorknob clicks]

865
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:41,098
At this crime scene,

866
00:51:41,181 --> 00:51:43,850
what immediately called my attention
were the bloodstains.

867
00:51:43,934 --> 00:51:45,185
For two reasons.

868
00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:48,021
First, because of their morphology.

869
00:51:48,647 --> 00:51:51,441
I also noticed
that they tried to remove them.

870
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,528
They tried to clean the bloodstains,

871
00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:57,280
but they were perfectly visible.

872
00:52:00,325 --> 00:52:05,288
The bloodstains marked a path
from the door to the couch.

873
00:52:09,292 --> 00:52:13,088
The bloodstains that were right in front
of the door told us something.

874
00:52:14,005 --> 00:52:15,924
Because of the height of their projection,

875
00:52:16,007 --> 00:52:19,010
we could tell Isabella
was carried into the apartment.

876
00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:21,179
She didn't come here walking by herself.

877
00:52:24,766 --> 00:52:27,269
The drops matched the stride of an adult.

878
00:52:31,106 --> 00:52:33,525
We can also tell the height
of the person carrying her

879
00:52:33,608 --> 00:52:36,153
by the way the blood drops were projected,

880
00:52:36,236 --> 00:52:37,863
which matches the father's height.

881
00:52:38,446 --> 00:52:42,450
Let's assume Anna, making a huge effort,
was carrying the kid.

882
00:52:42,951 --> 00:52:46,037
The bloodstains would have
had another morphology,

883
00:52:46,121 --> 00:52:47,622
that of a shorter height.

884
00:52:52,043 --> 00:52:54,546
Here, right by the couch,

885
00:52:54,629 --> 00:52:56,882
there were several other bloodstains,

886
00:52:56,965 --> 00:52:59,843
other than those
I'd seen coming from the door.

887
00:53:03,054 --> 00:53:05,891
If you followed the path
drawn by the bloodstains,

888
00:53:06,975 --> 00:53:11,354
you would be led straight into the bedroom
where the children used to sleep in.

889
00:53:19,446 --> 00:53:23,325
The bed wasn't made.
There were blood drops here as well.

890
00:53:27,329 --> 00:53:30,123
The last bloodstain
we found in this apartment

891
00:53:31,208 --> 00:53:32,584
was on the windowsill.

892
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:37,839
[Sergio] There were a lot
of dirty dishes in the sink,

893
00:53:37,923 --> 00:53:40,383
but I still noticed a pair of scissors.

894
00:53:42,886 --> 00:53:43,720
And I thought,

895
00:53:43,803 --> 00:53:47,933
"This object could have been used
to cut the safety net."

896
00:53:49,142 --> 00:53:51,561
We found, trapped within the scissors,

897
00:53:51,645 --> 00:53:53,480
a part of the safety net.

898
00:54:02,447 --> 00:54:04,699
[Ilana] There were many toys on the bed.

899
00:54:04,783 --> 00:54:06,618
Plus, the bed was made.

900
00:54:08,161 --> 00:54:11,706
Other than that, there was a drawing
Isabella did on the bed.

901
00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:16,836
Therefore, there's no way
the father placed her on the bed.

902
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,422
The fact that he said that
bothered me deeply.

903
00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:21,049
Why was the father lying?

904
00:54:21,883 --> 00:54:23,635
FORENSIC POLICE

905
00:54:23,718 --> 00:54:25,720
[dramatic music playing]

906
00:54:26,805 --> 00:54:28,682
FORENSIC POLICE

907
00:54:29,432 --> 00:54:31,059
[Francisco] The defendants
were subpoenaed,

908
00:54:31,142 --> 00:54:33,645
invited to take part
in a reenactment

909
00:54:33,728 --> 00:54:37,691
that happened on Sunday morning,
April 27th, 2008.

910
00:54:41,444 --> 00:54:44,656
The forensic team
was going to reenact, to a T,

911
00:54:44,739 --> 00:54:47,867
the version the defendants thought
would benefit them.

912
00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:50,370
They refused to go.

913
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:53,581
They said they wouldn't produce evidence
against themselves.

914
00:54:54,499 --> 00:54:57,961
APRIL 27TH, 2008

915
00:54:58,044 --> 00:55:00,380
[dramatic music playing]

916
00:55:08,263 --> 00:55:11,474
The police chief formally requested
that Judge Maurício

917
00:55:11,558 --> 00:55:16,354
prohibit any aircrafts from flying
within a 1.2 mile perimeter.

918
00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:24,612
But the press came up with a workaround.

919
00:55:24,696 --> 00:55:27,324
They rented the surrounding apartments,

920
00:55:27,407 --> 00:55:30,952
and they put the reporters
and commentators on the balconies

921
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:35,665
with powerful cameras
so they could film the forensic team.

922
00:55:45,842 --> 00:55:47,218
For almost three hours,

923
00:55:47,302 --> 00:55:49,387
a team of ten professionals
have been in the building

924
00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:51,931
where the crime happened on March 29th.

925
00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:04,736
With the simulation,
we established the timing of the events.

926
00:56:04,819 --> 00:56:08,114
We drew out a timeline,
which was extremely important.

927
00:56:09,449 --> 00:56:12,827
We searched for any previously unknown
pieces of information

928
00:56:12,911 --> 00:56:15,246
since the beginning of the investigation.

929
00:56:16,831 --> 00:56:19,209
For example, the car had a GPS device.

930
00:56:19,918 --> 00:56:23,963
We were able to pinpoint
the exact moment the car was turned off.

931
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:28,343
Everything happened
after 11:36 p.m. that night.

932
00:56:29,427 --> 00:56:34,307
11:36 P.M.

933
00:56:38,311 --> 00:56:40,939
They went upstairs.
They got into the apartment.

934
00:56:41,439 --> 00:56:45,568
All of that happened in 15 minutes.
It all took place within that timeframe.

935
00:56:49,906 --> 00:56:53,159
At 11:49 p.m., the doorman heard a noise.

936
00:56:53,243 --> 00:56:55,578
He said it sounded like a car crash.

937
00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:57,455
[dramatic sting]

938
00:56:57,539 --> 00:56:58,873
11:49 P.M.

939
00:56:58,957 --> 00:57:02,001
Immediately, he goes out
and calls the building manager.

940
00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:04,504
The manager desperately calls the police.

941
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,508
We also know exactly
when they answered that call.

942
00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:09,968
11:50 p.m.

943
00:57:10,051 --> 00:57:13,972
11:50 P.M.

944
00:57:14,806 --> 00:57:18,601
We have the recording of the manager's
talk with the police responder.

945
00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:21,062
[manager] There's a burglar
in this building!

946
00:57:21,146 --> 00:57:23,857
Someone threw a kid from up there!
Oh my God!

947
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:25,692
[Francisco]
We were able to use that recording

948
00:57:25,775 --> 00:57:27,861
to identify the exact moment

949
00:57:27,944 --> 00:57:31,072
in which the defendant arrives
to check the body.

950
00:57:34,075 --> 00:57:37,620
It happened at 11:50 p.m.
and a few seconds.

951
00:57:39,622 --> 00:57:43,501
That means that one minute after Isabella
had been thrown from up there,

952
00:57:43,585 --> 00:57:45,962
the defendant was right next to her body.

953
00:57:48,256 --> 00:57:52,385
While all of this is happening,
Anna is in the apartment making calls.

954
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:54,721
The first person Anna called
was her father.

955
00:57:54,804 --> 00:57:56,723
The call was super fast, it took seconds.

956
00:57:57,307 --> 00:58:00,351
Then, after another six seconds,
she calls her father-in-law.

957
00:58:00,435 --> 00:58:01,769
It was also a quick talk.

958
00:58:02,353 --> 00:58:05,440
While she was on the phone,
Isabella was already down there.

959
00:58:05,523 --> 00:58:08,568
She was on the phone with her father
and then her father-in-law

960
00:58:08,651 --> 00:58:11,821
during the exact timeframe that Lucio,
the building manager,

961
00:58:11,905 --> 00:58:13,323
was on the phone with the police.

962
00:58:13,406 --> 00:58:16,117
And she was upstairs on the phone.

963
00:58:16,201 --> 00:58:20,330
I mean, if there was a third person,
then that person would be with them.

964
00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:22,999
They said they went back to the car.

965
00:58:23,082 --> 00:58:24,334
The girl was asleep,

966
00:58:24,417 --> 00:58:27,045
so they went back to the car
to get the other children,

967
00:58:27,128 --> 00:58:28,588
then they went up to the apartment.

968
00:58:28,671 --> 00:58:33,593
It was only upon entering the apartment
that they realized Isabella was missing.

969
00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:38,181
The account provided by the defendant
would suggest

970
00:58:38,264 --> 00:58:41,518
that he reached the ground floor
after midnight.

971
00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:47,190
That simulation was essential
for the timeline to be established.

972
00:58:47,273 --> 00:58:48,191
There's no way.

973
00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:53,071
[reporter 13] Alexandre Nardoni
and Anna Carolina Jatobá are handcuffed.

974
00:58:53,154 --> 00:58:56,407
Their preventative arrest
was ordered this Wednesday.

975
00:58:57,617 --> 00:58:59,786
Right now, at 10:33 p.m.,

976
00:58:59,869 --> 00:59:03,414
the couple will be taken
to the 9th Precinct police station.

977
00:59:03,498 --> 00:59:07,001
Alexandre Nardoni
is being placed in a police car.

978
00:59:07,085 --> 00:59:10,213
There's Alexandre.
He's in the back of the car.

979
00:59:10,296 --> 00:59:13,883
There he is. They're taking him.
That car over there.

980
00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:18,805
Anna Carolina Jatobá
is being taken in that car.

981
00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:23,893
[Mario] We received an order
to go to the building.

982
00:59:24,435 --> 00:59:27,063
We took them with us,
and the crowd applauded.

983
00:59:29,274 --> 00:59:33,069
Our job was basically attending them
so they weren't lynched.

984
00:59:34,821 --> 00:59:37,490
[reporter 14] Their arrival
at the police station was also hectic.

985
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:38,866
As well as reporters,

986
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:41,536
curious civilians
wanted to see the couple.

987
00:59:41,619 --> 00:59:43,538
[clamoring]

988
00:59:43,621 --> 00:59:45,415
[reporter 15] Move! Move!
Go to the other side!

989
00:59:51,379 --> 00:59:54,132
Very soon after the judge
came to his decision,

990
00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:59,971
several news media outlets
were aware of what was going on.

991
01:00:01,306 --> 01:00:03,766
The officers who apprehended the couple

992
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:08,813
removed the window tint
from the rear part of the car,

993
01:00:09,564 --> 01:00:11,733
where the prisoners are usually seated.

994
01:00:12,483 --> 01:00:14,444
It was all intentional, of course.

995
01:00:14,527 --> 01:00:16,863
They even told the reporters
and camera crew,

996
01:00:16,946 --> 01:00:18,740
"Look, we got a little gift."

997
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,619
[camera shutters click]

998
01:00:23,411 --> 01:00:26,289
[sirens wailing]

999
01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:32,420
And to top it off,
after they got to the police station,

1000
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,756
they had to wait inside the car,

1001
01:00:34,839 --> 01:00:35,798
both of them.

1002
01:00:38,092 --> 01:00:39,844
With the door wide open,

1003
01:00:39,927 --> 01:00:42,263
so everyone could film them
and take photos of them,

1004
01:00:43,514 --> 01:00:45,433
as if they were a couple of awards,

1005
01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:48,102
a couple hunting prizes
the police had put down.

1006
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:50,605
[camera shutters clicking]

1007
01:00:50,688 --> 01:00:53,941
[man 17] I'm recording.
Sir, say something, damn it!

1008
01:00:55,276 --> 01:00:56,903
[police] All right, stop it.
That's enough.

1009
01:00:56,986 --> 01:00:58,780
[man 17] I thought you were gone, bro.
Come on!

1010
01:00:59,739 --> 01:01:03,701
[police] Excuse me! Careful!
Hey, watch your head! Watch your head!

1011
01:01:13,169 --> 01:01:15,421
[Mario] The police cannot stop
the press from doing their jobs.

1012
01:01:16,756 --> 01:01:19,258
And the truth is,
there was no point in rushing any of it.

1013
01:01:20,343 --> 01:01:22,178
They were arrested, they were safe.

1014
01:01:22,261 --> 01:01:23,763
We had them under our protection.

1015
01:01:23,846 --> 01:01:27,183
There was no reason to hurry just to keep
the press from getting good shots of them.

1016
01:01:27,266 --> 01:01:30,228
If the press filmed them,
it's their business.

1017
01:01:30,853 --> 01:01:34,857
COUPLE SURRENDERS BEFORE ENRAGED CROWD

1018
01:01:34,941 --> 01:01:39,779
THE JUDGE ACCEPTED THE CHARGES
AND ISSUED AN ARREST WARRANT AROUND 6 P.M.

1019
01:01:42,490 --> 01:01:44,450
[Robinson] The press seeks the scoop.

1020
01:01:44,534 --> 01:01:47,286
And in the heat of the moment,
they may sometimes

1021
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:50,665
inadvertently turn a situation
into a spectacle,

1022
01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:53,376
striving to be the first
with breaking news

1023
01:01:53,459 --> 01:01:55,336
and outpace their competitors.

1024
01:01:56,087 --> 01:01:58,339
Does this stem from bad faith?

1025
01:02:00,133 --> 01:02:02,677
I couldn't tell you for sure
it's bad faith.

1026
01:02:03,386 --> 01:02:06,514
All I know is that this case
moved the entire country.

1027
01:02:07,056 --> 01:02:11,310
It was almost like society
went through a catharsis over this case.

1028
01:02:16,482 --> 01:02:18,234
[Flávia] This case, without a doubt,

1029
01:02:19,694 --> 01:02:24,073
symbolizes the complex relationship
between media and criminal justice.

1030
01:02:25,533 --> 01:02:26,367
It's history.

1031
01:02:26,451 --> 01:02:28,619
It's important to remember
that during the inquisition,

1032
01:02:28,703 --> 01:02:32,206
crowds would gather at squares
to witness public executions.

1033
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:36,127
There was a sense
of satisfaction among people,

1034
01:02:36,794 --> 01:02:40,548
driven by a perceived notion of justice,
regardless of who was being accused

1035
01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:43,509
or what evidence led to those executions.

1036
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,054
People have shown
a great sense of interest

1037
01:02:47,138 --> 01:02:49,474
in criminal justice throughout history.

1038
01:02:53,352 --> 01:02:56,022
[Ricardo] This crime happened
within the middle-class,

1039
01:02:58,024 --> 01:03:01,194
which is a class of great influence
in public opinion.

1040
01:03:03,654 --> 01:03:06,115
So, in a way, the middle-class audience,

1041
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:07,742
which is the great public,

1042
01:03:07,825 --> 01:03:10,953
can picture themselves
in that same situation,

1043
01:03:11,037 --> 01:03:12,663
one way or another.

1044
01:03:13,915 --> 01:03:15,958
"I see myself in that apartment."

1045
01:03:16,042 --> 01:03:17,960
"For some reason, I covet that case."

1046
01:03:18,044 --> 01:03:19,962
"I want to know more about it."

1047
01:03:21,088 --> 01:03:24,509
So it's the perfect case
to get a major audience.

1048
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,471
Some press channels
actually went over the top.

1049
01:03:28,554 --> 01:03:31,682
They completely lost sight
of their responsibility.

1050
01:03:32,391 --> 01:03:34,936
How can they analyze
the tone of her voice

1051
01:03:35,019 --> 01:03:37,146
without ministering a lie detector test?

1052
01:03:39,732 --> 01:03:42,693
To produce a news story
using a lie detector…

1053
01:03:43,528 --> 01:03:45,196
I don't agree with that.

1054
01:03:45,988 --> 01:03:49,116
We're suffering. It all hurts us.

1055
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,077
What people are saying about us,

1056
01:03:51,577 --> 01:03:54,914
their judgement of us,
because they've sentenced us themselves

1057
01:03:55,540 --> 01:03:57,834
even though we're absolutely innocent.

1058
01:03:57,917 --> 01:03:58,960
LIE

1059
01:04:00,044 --> 01:04:04,257
I didn't produce that story,
and I wouldn't have done that.

1060
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:05,758
I don't agree with that.

1061
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:09,387
[upbeat music playing]

1062
01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:10,888
SUPER POP WITH LUCIANA GIMENEZ

1063
01:04:10,972 --> 01:04:14,600
Francisco Cembranelli,
thank you so much for this interview.

1064
01:04:15,434 --> 01:04:17,562
Thank you, it's my pleasure to be here.

1065
01:04:18,437 --> 01:04:20,940
[Robinson] Cembranelli
was considered a national hero.

1066
01:04:21,607 --> 01:04:23,109
-How are you?
-Great. Nice to meet you.

1067
01:04:23,192 --> 01:04:26,112
What should I call you?
Francisco, Chico, or Cembranelli?

1068
01:04:26,195 --> 01:04:28,030
Everybody calls me Cembranelli.

1069
01:04:28,114 --> 01:04:29,115
[host] Cembranelli.

1070
01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:30,616
Let's start from the beginning,

1071
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:32,410
-and not when you were born.
-Oh, yeah.

1072
01:04:33,411 --> 01:04:37,331
District Attorney Francisco Cembranelli
became famous working on cases

1073
01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,000
that moved public opinion.

1074
01:04:39,625 --> 01:04:42,336
You became a superstar
during the Nardoni case.

1075
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:44,922
Did that affect you personally?

1076
01:04:45,006 --> 01:04:47,508
Were you harassed?
Your family, your children?

1077
01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:49,510
What harassment did you go through?

1078
01:04:50,803 --> 01:04:52,763
People talk to me on the streets.

1079
01:04:52,847 --> 01:04:55,391
I don't know how to handle it
because I'm shy.

1080
01:04:56,851 --> 01:04:58,019
I'm not a celebrity.

1081
01:04:58,102 --> 01:05:01,647
I'm still doing my same old job
in the same place as always.

1082
01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:08,279
If I'm being completely honest,
I was ready to form a jury.

1083
01:05:08,362 --> 01:05:11,407
In 2008, three months after the fact.

1084
01:05:12,450 --> 01:05:14,702
I used to say that
to any journalists who asked me,

1085
01:05:14,785 --> 01:05:18,039
"What will it take for the prosecution
to take this to a jury?"

1086
01:05:18,748 --> 01:05:21,959
I would answer, "Nothing.
The judge just needs to order it,

1087
01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:24,795
and we'll call in a jury
with the evidence collected."

1088
01:05:24,879 --> 01:05:26,672
"It's enough to convict them."

1089
01:05:33,179 --> 01:05:37,141
The prosecution wants to take advantage
of all the clamoring

1090
01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:39,977
because it's easier to get the answer

1091
01:05:40,061 --> 01:05:43,314
while the public is affecting
the pace of the trial

1092
01:05:43,397 --> 01:05:44,398
and the investigation.

1093
01:05:44,482 --> 01:05:46,859
[birds chirping]

1094
01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:48,319
[gentle music playing]

1095
01:05:56,702 --> 01:05:59,705
[Ana] People would send me
their pictures attached to their letters

1096
01:06:01,082 --> 01:06:02,500
showing me their sympathies.

1097
01:06:03,584 --> 01:06:05,711
I would notice the magnitude
of this whole thing

1098
01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:07,880
when I received these moving letters

1099
01:06:09,006 --> 01:06:12,635
that described how people interpreted
and embraced the story.

1100
01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:17,515
Some people named their daughters
"Isabella" because of this.

1101
01:06:19,058 --> 01:06:21,435
Anyway, these letters really moved me.

1102
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:22,353
Look.

1103
01:06:26,774 --> 01:06:29,694
"You don't know me.
I'm Rosana, I'm forty-seven years old,

1104
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:31,320
and I'm a mother of three."

1105
01:06:32,029 --> 01:06:34,448
"Since March 29th, 2008,

1106
01:06:35,574 --> 01:06:37,702
we inadvertently became friends."

1107
01:06:37,785 --> 01:06:39,370
"When I heard about Isabella's tragedy,

1108
01:06:39,453 --> 01:06:42,164
I couldn't resist putting myself
in your position."

1109
01:06:43,791 --> 01:06:46,794
"Since that sad day,
I've had several sleepless nights

1110
01:06:46,877 --> 01:06:49,130
thinking about you
and your sweet daughter."

1111
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,841
"I could only imagine your heartache."

1112
01:06:52,842 --> 01:06:55,803
"But I'm aware
that I'll never begin to fathom it."

1113
01:06:57,638 --> 01:07:00,391
"I kept thinking if there was
anything I could do to help you."

1114
01:07:00,474 --> 01:07:01,851
"So on April 18th,

1115
01:07:03,602 --> 01:07:05,730
on mine and Isabella's birthday,

1116
01:07:06,731 --> 01:07:09,442
I made a protest banner against impunity."

1117
01:07:11,235 --> 01:07:13,821
"Since then,
I've been to several protests,

1118
01:07:13,904 --> 01:07:15,865
including the one
on the day of the trial."

1119
01:07:15,948 --> 01:07:19,160
"I stood in front of the court
until their sentence was given."

1120
01:07:21,871 --> 01:07:24,415
[sewing machine whirring]

1121
01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:30,588
ISABELLA FOREVER

1122
01:07:31,756 --> 01:07:34,341
[Jose] We were anxious about it
until the very end, you know?

1123
01:07:34,425 --> 01:07:36,844
Because every day,
every week, every month,

1124
01:07:36,927 --> 01:07:38,596
we would get more news.

1125
01:07:39,889 --> 01:07:42,808
People wanted to know
how the investigation was going.

1126
01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:45,311
We suffered for two whole years.

1127
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,484
[Ana] The eve of the trial was…

1128
01:07:51,567 --> 01:07:52,485
[laughs]

1129
01:07:52,985 --> 01:07:54,945
…the worst eve I've ever lived.

1130
01:07:55,780 --> 01:07:58,032
Time stood still, the day wouldn't come.

1131
01:08:00,034 --> 01:08:00,993
MARCH 22ND, 2010

1132
01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:03,496
[woman 9] Today marks the beginning
of the trial for the couple

1133
01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:06,540
Alexandre Nardoni
and Anna Carolina Jatobá,

1134
01:08:06,624 --> 01:08:10,795
who are charged with the death
of Isabella in March of 2008.

1135
01:08:11,754 --> 01:08:14,090
[reporter 16] This trial
has garnered unprecedented attention

1136
01:08:14,173 --> 01:08:16,550
in the history of the Brazilian press.

1137
01:08:20,137 --> 01:08:23,599
There's a significant buzz
surrounding this wildly televised trial

1138
01:08:23,682 --> 01:08:25,851
with a lot of activity happening
in this context.

1139
01:08:29,271 --> 01:08:31,190
[Robinson] The trial was insane.

1140
01:08:31,732 --> 01:08:35,736
A sidewalk in front of the court
was totally occupied by the crowd.

1141
01:08:40,366 --> 01:08:41,826
[Ilana] I was afraid of them.

1142
01:08:42,618 --> 01:08:45,579
There were so many people there,
so many press crews.

1143
01:08:45,663 --> 01:08:48,124
The overwhelming presence
of individuals surrounding you

1144
01:08:48,207 --> 01:08:49,875
made me hesitant to enter.

1145
01:08:49,959 --> 01:08:52,128
I kept thinking, "What am I doing here?"

1146
01:08:52,670 --> 01:08:57,675
THE NARDONIS CHANGE THEIR ATTORNEY
AT THE EVE OF THE JURY TRIAL

1147
01:08:58,259 --> 01:09:01,512
[woman 10] Trust is paramount
in any client-attorney relationship.

1148
01:09:02,596 --> 01:09:06,308
In cases involving felonies against life,
like this homicide,

1149
01:09:06,392 --> 01:09:09,520
clients require someone exceptional,
a specialist in the field.

1150
01:09:11,313 --> 01:09:14,066
And Roberto Podval
has a lot of experience.

1151
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:17,027
He's one of the most brilliant attorneys
in the country.

1152
01:09:17,862 --> 01:09:20,030
I guess they felt safe in his hands.

1153
01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:29,081
[reporter 17] Roberto Podval, 44,
and Francisco Cembranelli, 49,

1154
01:09:29,790 --> 01:09:32,042
graduated from
the same law school in São Paulo

1155
01:09:32,126 --> 01:09:34,753
and are at the peak of their career.

1156
01:09:34,837 --> 01:09:37,339
Podval has worked
on some controversial cases

1157
01:09:37,423 --> 01:09:41,177
and won 13 of the 15 cases
he worked on before Isabella's.

1158
01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:42,386
[dramatic sting]

1159
01:09:46,557 --> 01:09:48,809
Clearly, it was a lost cause.

1160
01:09:48,893 --> 01:09:51,312
But am I supposed to reject a case

1161
01:09:51,395 --> 01:09:54,398
just because it seems like
a lost cause at first?

1162
01:09:54,481 --> 01:09:56,692
They are being judged unjustly.

1163
01:09:56,775 --> 01:09:59,320
And in fact,
they have the right to defend themselves.

1164
01:10:01,989 --> 01:10:05,117
[reporter 18] The attorney,
Roberto Podval, was booed by the crowd

1165
01:10:05,201 --> 01:10:07,536
as he was walking into the courthouse.

1166
01:10:09,705 --> 01:10:12,791
[Ilana] Podval was physically assaulted
in front of the court.

1167
01:10:13,417 --> 01:10:15,920
That's insane.
Attorneys don't defend crime.

1168
01:10:17,379 --> 01:10:18,380
It was very sad.

1169
01:10:18,464 --> 01:10:20,382
People were cheering
for a condemning sentence

1170
01:10:20,466 --> 01:10:21,634
in front of the court.

1171
01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:24,762
Their sentiments were fueled
by the daily media coverage

1172
01:10:24,845 --> 01:10:27,306
that consistently featured
the case in the news.

1173
01:10:30,351 --> 01:10:32,853
[reporter 19] This law student
brought food and water.

1174
01:10:33,646 --> 01:10:36,023
She woke up early to be the first in line.

1175
01:10:36,523 --> 01:10:38,651
[reporter 20] André,
where did you come from?

1176
01:10:39,318 --> 01:10:42,571
About 500 miles from here.
It's in the north of Minas Gerais.

1177
01:10:42,655 --> 01:10:45,157
They have to go to jail.
They are murderers.

1178
01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:46,200
They're guilty.

1179
01:10:46,283 --> 01:10:48,994
I think they're guilty
until proven otherwise.

1180
01:10:49,078 --> 01:10:51,705
There's no evidence
of a third person at the crime scene.

1181
01:10:51,789 --> 01:10:52,790
I think they're guilty.

1182
01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,292
They need to go to jail. They're monsters.

1183
01:10:55,376 --> 01:10:57,544
As I know God exists, I know they did it.

1184
01:10:58,128 --> 01:11:00,089
Society is sentencing them.

1185
01:11:01,090 --> 01:11:02,925
[Flávia] Then, there are the jurors,

1186
01:11:03,008 --> 01:11:06,262
who are laymen representing society
in judging someone else.

1187
01:11:06,887 --> 01:11:11,225
When those individuals entered the court
to pass judgment to the couple,

1188
01:11:11,308 --> 01:11:14,853
it's very hard to imagine
that they'd be unbiased.

1189
01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:18,899
JUDICIARY POWER REGIONAL COURT

1190
01:11:20,150 --> 01:11:22,236
It's kind of like winning the lottery…

1191
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:23,195
JUROR

1192
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:26,323
…being a part of the jury
for a case such as the Nardoni's.

1193
01:11:27,992 --> 01:11:31,704
First, you need to be registered
as a jury member on that court.

1194
01:11:31,787 --> 01:11:36,250
Afterwards, 25 jurors are preselected
for a specific case,

1195
01:11:37,584 --> 01:11:41,255
and from those 25 jurors,
only seven will be selected.

1196
01:11:41,338 --> 01:11:43,716
JUDGE

1197
01:11:45,467 --> 01:11:47,136
[pensive music playing]

1198
01:11:57,438 --> 01:11:58,772
[Roberto] The prosecutor

1199
01:12:00,232 --> 01:12:03,736
looks at the jury,
who is already carrying all that weight,

1200
01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:06,655
that huge burden of public opinion,

1201
01:12:08,032 --> 01:12:09,158
and says,

1202
01:12:09,241 --> 01:12:11,410
"You are responsible for the result,

1203
01:12:11,493 --> 01:12:14,079
and you'll answer for it before society."

1204
01:12:16,081 --> 01:12:18,917
Is that what someone
who seeks justice would say?

1205
01:12:20,294 --> 01:12:23,964
The defense requested
that the Supreme Court invalidate the jury

1206
01:12:24,048 --> 01:12:25,799
due to the jurors' lack of impartiality

1207
01:12:25,883 --> 01:12:29,595
resulting from the public commotion
generated during the trial.

1208
01:12:30,804 --> 01:12:32,723
The only way to get
a truly impartial trial

1209
01:12:32,806 --> 01:12:34,391
would be to hold it on Mars.

1210
01:12:34,475 --> 01:12:38,312
Because everyone in Brazil knew about it.
Of course the jury had been influenced.

1211
01:12:41,482 --> 01:12:45,027
[Ana] I got there, and then I was
the first person to give a deposition.

1212
01:12:52,034 --> 01:12:53,619
[Francisco] I chose four witnesses.

1213
01:12:53,702 --> 01:12:56,705
The first was Isabella's mom,
Ana Carolina.

1214
01:12:56,789 --> 01:12:58,874
She could describe that family's history.

1215
01:13:00,334 --> 01:13:03,003
She could discuss her relationship
with her daughter,

1216
01:13:04,671 --> 01:13:06,090
with her ex-husband,

1217
01:13:06,173 --> 01:13:07,007
with the stepmother.

1218
01:13:07,091 --> 01:13:11,804
She could describe her relationship
with Alexandre while they were married,

1219
01:13:11,887 --> 01:13:14,932
how it was after the divorce,
or even when the crime happened.

1220
01:13:15,015 --> 01:13:17,684
It was an important statement
with emotional weight.

1221
01:13:23,357 --> 01:13:26,110
[Ana] When I walked into the court
to give my statement,

1222
01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:28,487
I remember I was facing the judge,

1223
01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:31,240
and the couple was sitting
towards my right-hand side.

1224
01:13:31,907 --> 01:13:33,492
I didn't make any eye contact with them.

1225
01:13:36,078 --> 01:13:37,913
I didn't want to look at them.

1226
01:13:38,997 --> 01:13:42,543
I tried to focus on what I had to do
right there and then.

1227
01:13:43,752 --> 01:13:45,546
I tried not to care
about them being there.

1228
01:13:50,008 --> 01:13:52,302
This Monday, the reporter Sandro Barbosa

1229
01:13:52,386 --> 01:13:55,764
watched
Anna Carolina Oliveira's deposition.

1230
01:13:57,015 --> 01:14:01,061
What was the most moving moment
of Anna Carolina's deposition?

1231
01:14:03,689 --> 01:14:06,316
Every time she was reminded
of her daughter,

1232
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,362
every time she was questioned
about their mother-daughter relationship,

1233
01:14:11,029 --> 01:14:12,364
she'd get emotional.

1234
01:14:14,074 --> 01:14:17,619
At one point, she was talking
about how her daughter had this desire

1235
01:14:17,703 --> 01:14:19,538
to learn how to read and write.

1236
01:14:20,164 --> 01:14:23,459
Then she started crying
as she remembered her daughter.

1237
01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:25,961
WITNESS: ISABELLA'S BIGGEST DREAM
WAS TO LEARN TO READ

1238
01:14:26,044 --> 01:14:28,130
SINCE SHE WAS BEING LITERATE
AT SCHOOL AND…

1239
01:14:28,213 --> 01:14:31,925
(AT THAT MOMENT,
THE WITNESS STARTS TO CRY AGAIN)

1240
01:14:32,009 --> 01:14:33,635
[Ana] I gave my deposition.

1241
01:14:34,178 --> 01:14:36,805
I was talking for hours about my memories,

1242
01:14:37,347 --> 01:14:40,893
about all that warmth,
about all those emotions…

1243
01:14:45,939 --> 01:14:49,109
[Francisco] After the deposition,
the judge is obligated to inquire

1244
01:14:49,193 --> 01:14:51,320
whether the parties agree
to dismiss the witness.

1245
01:14:51,403 --> 01:14:53,489
The witness may remain secluded
in the premises

1246
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:56,658
but cannot be dismissed
unless all parties agree.

1247
01:14:57,618 --> 01:15:00,120
When the judge asked,
"Can she be dismissed?"

1248
01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:03,290
I agreed to it.
The defense disagreed to it.

1249
01:15:04,583 --> 01:15:08,212
The confrontation is done
to contradict their points,

1250
01:15:09,129 --> 01:15:10,797
the accused and the mother.

1251
01:15:11,798 --> 01:15:13,884
I'm very interested in doing it.

1252
01:15:14,801 --> 01:15:16,345
I did that just to be safe.

1253
01:15:16,428 --> 01:15:18,931
I did not want the mother
to watch the trial,

1254
01:15:19,014 --> 01:15:20,682
so that's what I needed to do then.

1255
01:15:20,766 --> 01:15:23,352
And I took a lot of heat back then
because of that.

1256
01:15:24,353 --> 01:15:27,523
I've prepared myself for that situation,
for the trial.

1257
01:15:27,606 --> 01:15:30,442
I was prepared to face the reality
of those problems again.

1258
01:15:31,401 --> 01:15:33,695
But I wasn't prepared to be in isolation.

1259
01:15:34,905 --> 01:15:38,534
The judge Maurício Fossen confirmed
that Isabella's mother must stay

1260
01:15:38,617 --> 01:15:40,786
until the last deposition is finished.

1261
01:15:42,412 --> 01:15:45,958
Emotionally, with the defense's request
to keep the mother isolated,

1262
01:15:46,041 --> 01:15:47,960
she'd have to stay there for days.

1263
01:15:48,043 --> 01:15:50,003
The witnesses have to be isolated.

1264
01:15:50,087 --> 01:15:53,131
She was emotionally shaken,
so it was a delicate decision.

1265
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:56,176
They're killing my granddaughter.

1266
01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:59,346
They keep killing her every day,
and now they want to kill my daughter.

1267
01:16:00,389 --> 01:16:02,724
She needs her family's support.

1268
01:16:02,808 --> 01:16:04,142
It's the bare minimum.

1269
01:16:04,226 --> 01:16:07,062
She needs that right now,
the support of her family.

1270
01:16:07,145 --> 01:16:10,107
We're right here for her,
but they denied her this right.

1271
01:16:10,190 --> 01:16:12,943
They denied her
the right of suffering, of screaming.

1272
01:16:13,026 --> 01:16:15,821
[camera shutters clicking]

1273
01:16:19,074 --> 01:16:22,744
They wanted her to be as far away
from the jury as possible.

1274
01:16:22,828 --> 01:16:25,414
She suffered so much
being alone in that room,

1275
01:16:25,497 --> 01:16:28,166
without me, without her father…

1276
01:16:31,336 --> 01:16:34,881
She didn't have anyone, really,
who could comfort her,

1277
01:16:34,965 --> 01:16:36,466
who could be there for her.

1278
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:40,012
Even those who brought her food
couldn't talk to her.

1279
01:16:43,557 --> 01:16:45,767
[Maurício] They are isolated
from the jurors.

1280
01:16:45,851 --> 01:16:49,354
She couldn't leave the premises,
she couldn't go to a hotel.

1281
01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:50,897
Everything happened in there.

1282
01:16:51,481 --> 01:16:53,233
We'd leave the courtroom and,

1283
01:16:54,026 --> 01:16:55,986
on the other side of the hallway,

1284
01:16:58,196 --> 01:17:01,366
there was a room
which was adapted to be a dormitory.

1285
01:17:02,909 --> 01:17:05,287
She also had to spend
a few nights at the court.

1286
01:17:05,954 --> 01:17:08,957
And her room was
sort of wall-to-wall with our room.

1287
01:17:11,710 --> 01:17:12,544
I never saw her,

1288
01:17:12,628 --> 01:17:14,630
but we could hear her crying
several times.

1289
01:17:15,297 --> 01:17:17,549
She was very emotional
because of her daughter.

1290
01:17:17,633 --> 01:17:19,426
I remember that very clearly.

1291
01:17:19,509 --> 01:17:20,886
That kind of stuck with me.

1292
01:17:25,182 --> 01:17:27,392
[Ana] So I had to spend four days there.

1293
01:17:27,893 --> 01:17:29,603
I was left there alone in a room.

1294
01:17:30,270 --> 01:17:32,230
I couldn't stand that any longer.

1295
01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:35,400
After all, it was my daughter's trial.

1296
01:17:35,484 --> 01:17:38,236
It was the unraveling
of the story of my life.

1297
01:17:38,862 --> 01:17:40,238
And I couldn't even watch it.

1298
01:17:46,495 --> 01:17:49,206
[Francisco] At a certain point,
I don't know why, he gave up,

1299
01:17:49,289 --> 01:17:51,917
and agreed to have Anna Carolina
be dismissed.

1300
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,960
And she didn't even watch the trial.

1301
01:17:54,044 --> 01:17:57,506
She was so emotionally distraught
she decided to go home.

1302
01:17:59,341 --> 01:18:02,219
I just got to a point
where I couldn't be there anymore.

1303
01:18:03,261 --> 01:18:06,098
It was really tough.
Being there was really hard.

1304
01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:09,142
Not being able to talk to anyone.

1305
01:18:09,851 --> 01:18:11,228
Things were happening out here,

1306
01:18:11,311 --> 01:18:13,855
and I couldn't know about it,
talk about it.

1307
01:18:14,898 --> 01:18:18,026
He left me trapped in there
during my time of greatest need.

1308
01:18:21,238 --> 01:18:24,825
[Ilana] That mother couldn't watch
her daughter's murderers' trial.

1309
01:18:25,909 --> 01:18:26,827
That's rough.

1310
01:18:28,829 --> 01:18:33,375
She was kept from taking part
in what could be a healing process for her

1311
01:18:33,458 --> 01:18:36,461
and what could help her fully understand
what happened.

1312
01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:47,556
[Marcelo] If I were the attorney
for the Nardoni couple,

1313
01:18:47,639 --> 01:18:50,475
I would've tried to refute
each piece of evidence.

1314
01:18:50,559 --> 01:18:53,186
I would've tried to disprove
every piece of evidence

1315
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:55,856
by analyzing each of them individually.

1316
01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:00,360
[Ricardo] Podval is an amazing lawyer.

1317
01:19:00,444 --> 01:19:05,031
I have the utmost respect for him,
but his defense argument wasn't the best.

1318
01:19:05,699 --> 01:19:08,577
I mean, after all,
it was a difficult job, right?

1319
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:11,121
They were definitely
getting a sentence, you know?

1320
01:19:11,204 --> 01:19:13,999
For instance, I think
the defense attorneys did a bad job

1321
01:19:14,082 --> 01:19:17,210
when handling a few details
about the forensic report.

1322
01:19:17,878 --> 01:19:20,172
[Francisco] The defense is hindered? Why?

1323
01:19:21,923 --> 01:19:26,178
Listen, I cannot and will not assert
that the defense is being hindered.

1324
01:19:26,261 --> 01:19:29,931
However, what I can say is that,
from the moment we entered this place,

1325
01:19:30,015 --> 01:19:33,226
we have been burdened
with the challenges of this case.

1326
01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:35,437
[somber music playing]

1327
01:19:37,272 --> 01:19:40,358
[Ricardo] I heard about the Nardoni case
right from the beginning,

1328
01:19:40,442 --> 01:19:44,488
because the couple's attorneys came to me
and asked me to join the team.

1329
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:47,032
But I told his father, "Look,

1330
01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:51,620
keep your money
because your son is guilty."

1331
01:19:51,703 --> 01:19:52,996
"He'll be convicted."

1332
01:19:55,999 --> 01:19:59,961
Even though I didn't agree with a bunch
of stuff detailed in the report.

1333
01:20:00,879 --> 01:20:02,964
REPORT: HOMICIDE

1334
01:20:03,048 --> 01:20:04,508
VICTIM: ISABELLA NARDONI

1335
01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:05,717
SUBMITTER: RENATA PONTES

1336
01:20:06,676 --> 01:20:10,138
[Rogério] The police,
the forensics, the public ministry…

1337
01:20:10,222 --> 01:20:12,557
No one had an ace up their sleeve.

1338
01:20:12,641 --> 01:20:15,060
That evidence that no once can refute.

1339
01:20:15,143 --> 01:20:15,977
So what did they do?

1340
01:20:16,061 --> 01:20:21,650
PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE

1341
01:20:22,984 --> 01:20:24,736
A little 3D video

1342
01:20:25,821 --> 01:20:28,865
in which they created a story of the crime

1343
01:20:30,742 --> 01:20:33,578
to try to describe
what happened that night.

1344
01:20:33,662 --> 01:20:35,205
That was their ace.

1345
01:20:36,164 --> 01:20:38,291
But, deep down, that's nothing.

1346
01:20:39,125 --> 01:20:40,627
Someone created that.

1347
01:20:42,128 --> 01:20:44,965
VICTIM IMMOBILIZATION SITE

1348
01:20:45,048 --> 01:20:48,844
[Marco] That video captured what happened
according to the population's opinion.

1349
01:20:48,927 --> 01:20:50,887
But the trial goes way beyond that.

1350
01:20:52,722 --> 01:20:54,099
The animation was created

1351
01:20:54,182 --> 01:20:57,644
using the evidence found
at the crime scene and the simulation.

1352
01:20:59,104 --> 01:21:00,230
They refused to attend.

1353
01:21:00,313 --> 01:21:04,192
But we had sufficient elements
to establish a timeline.

1354
01:21:04,901 --> 01:21:08,029
Is it the truth?
It's the truth according to forensics.

1355
01:21:08,113 --> 01:21:12,158
They put in the work, compiled a report,
and reconstructed the crime

1356
01:21:12,242 --> 01:21:15,662
based on their understanding
of how the evidence would've been left.

1357
01:21:16,246 --> 01:21:17,831
[pensive music playing]

1358
01:21:21,251 --> 01:21:23,169
[Ricardo] It's kind of like a syndrome.

1359
01:21:23,253 --> 01:21:25,171
I see that a lot in police reports.

1360
01:21:25,255 --> 01:21:26,965
I call it Sherlock-ism.

1361
01:21:28,842 --> 01:21:32,053
As if the professional thinks
they need to explain everything.

1362
01:21:32,137 --> 01:21:35,974
They found, if I stand correctly,
13 bloodstains or droplets.

1363
01:21:37,642 --> 01:21:39,394
And then they came up with a story.

1364
01:21:39,477 --> 01:21:42,355
"From here, she went over there,
then she sat over there,

1365
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,524
then she got up,
she went to her sibling's bedroom…"

1366
01:21:46,651 --> 01:21:50,155
The prosecution needs
a complete version during the trial.

1367
01:21:50,238 --> 01:21:54,242
Like a short film. A story
with a beginning and all their movements.

1368
01:21:55,660 --> 01:21:58,622
With that, the jurors believe
that the prosecution knows everything.

1369
01:21:58,705 --> 01:22:02,208
But that's not true in Isabella's case.
We don't know everything.

1370
01:22:08,214 --> 01:22:09,674
On the victim's bedroom door,

1371
01:22:09,758 --> 01:22:12,469
there was a bloodstain
in the shape of a child's hand.

1372
01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:15,138
The attorney asked,

1373
01:22:16,264 --> 01:22:19,351
"Why doesn't the child touch the door
on your video?"

1374
01:22:20,894 --> 01:22:24,522
The forensic team answered,
"It didn't fit our story."

1375
01:22:25,649 --> 01:22:27,400
So this is my question,

1376
01:22:27,484 --> 01:22:30,570
"Which other elements
were found by the CSIs

1377
01:22:30,654 --> 01:22:33,990
but didn't fit the 'story'
presented by the video?"

1378
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:36,910
[tense music playing]

1379
01:22:39,537 --> 01:22:41,748
[Rosangela] Are some of the facts wrong?

1380
01:22:41,831 --> 01:22:42,666
Sure.

1381
01:22:43,458 --> 01:22:48,213
For instance, the moment of aggression,
in which she hits Isabella in the head.

1382
01:22:48,296 --> 01:22:50,590
This is not exactly how it happened.

1383
01:22:52,258 --> 01:22:54,010
[Francisco] That's where Isabella was.

1384
01:22:54,552 --> 01:22:57,180
She has a wound on her head,
as shown in the picture.

1385
01:22:58,181 --> 01:23:00,016
This wound bled inside the car.

1386
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,434
They applied a reagent to the car,

1387
01:23:01,518 --> 01:23:04,604
and it tested positive
for the presence of blood.

1388
01:23:06,856 --> 01:23:10,443
[Rosangela] It's a reagent
that allows us to see a bloodstain.

1389
01:23:11,695 --> 01:23:13,154
Even after it's been cleaned.

1390
01:23:13,738 --> 01:23:15,991
I used the reagent to see them.

1391
01:23:16,074 --> 01:23:19,244
I imagined other stains could be around,
and I was right.

1392
01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:20,745
There were other stains.

1393
01:23:20,829 --> 01:23:23,540
I also confirmed that it was human blood.

1394
01:23:25,583 --> 01:23:27,877
BLOOD (VICTIM'S GENETIC PROFILE CONFIRMED)

1395
01:23:27,961 --> 01:23:29,963
[Roberto] There was an assault in the car,

1396
01:23:30,046 --> 01:23:32,716
so they decided
to check the car for blood.

1397
01:23:32,799 --> 01:23:35,176
However, the blood they found in the car

1398
01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:38,680
could not be definitively confirmed
as Isabella's.

1399
01:23:39,639 --> 01:23:42,767
[Ricardo] They conducted a DNA test
which wasn't conclusive,

1400
01:23:43,268 --> 01:23:46,062
but it did indicate
the presence of male blood.

1401
01:23:47,564 --> 01:23:49,524
So what did this bloodstain determine?

1402
01:23:49,607 --> 01:23:52,444
That she was attacked?
No! It wasn't her blood.

1403
01:23:52,527 --> 01:23:54,696
IMPOSSIBLE TO EXTRACT THE DNA
DUE TO THE EXIGUITY OF THE SAMPLE

1404
01:23:54,779 --> 01:23:58,408
[Rosangela] We couldn't establish
that the blood belonged to Isabella

1405
01:23:58,491 --> 01:24:02,037
as it was mixed with the genetic profile
of another family member.

1406
01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:06,750
It belonged to one of the kids,
and was found mixed with their blood.

1407
01:24:07,751 --> 01:24:11,588
It was likely the baby's blood,
given its location on the infant car seat.

1408
01:24:17,761 --> 01:24:19,929
[Ricardo] Then they were trying
to make it work.

1409
01:24:20,013 --> 01:24:22,557
They said,
"Well, he wrapped her head in a diaper."

1410
01:24:24,350 --> 01:24:25,435
Where's the proof?

1411
01:24:25,518 --> 01:24:27,437
"We found a bloody diaper."

1412
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,397
"Did you run a DNA test?" "No."

1413
01:24:29,481 --> 01:24:30,774
So it's not proof.

1414
01:24:30,857 --> 01:24:36,780
SUBSEQUENTLY, ANNA JATOBÁ
SQUEEZES THE VICTIMS NECK

1415
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:42,410
And then the strangling.

1416
01:24:43,244 --> 01:24:45,246
The victim's neck injuries are real.

1417
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,041
The morgue was able to find nail marks.

1418
01:24:48,124 --> 01:24:51,836
LESIONS CHARACTERISTIC
OF ASPHYXIA DUE TO STRANGULATION

1419
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,380
They can't prove
that she strangled the girl.

1420
01:24:54,464 --> 01:24:55,298
DEFENSE ATTORNEY

1421
01:24:57,050 --> 01:25:00,011
We observed
distinct signs of asphyxiation.

1422
01:25:02,055 --> 01:25:05,975
In this particular case, though,
it would be extremely difficult

1423
01:25:06,601 --> 01:25:11,022
to determine whose hand was responsible
for causing those marks.

1424
01:25:16,194 --> 01:25:19,989
If you intend on sentencing two people
for a child's death,

1425
01:25:20,615 --> 01:25:23,910
you have to be able to point out
what each of them did.

1426
01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:28,873
Who threw her from up there?
Who killed her? Who did what?

1427
01:25:28,957 --> 01:25:30,792
How can they prove who did what?

1428
01:25:30,875 --> 01:25:32,043
They can't.

1429
01:25:37,841 --> 01:25:40,051
It's easier to believe in
the classic story

1430
01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:43,638
of an evil stepmother
who goes and leaves those marks,

1431
01:25:43,721 --> 01:25:45,682
then works it out with Alexandre,

1432
01:25:47,392 --> 01:25:49,185
as though everything was akin

1433
01:25:49,269 --> 01:25:52,147
to a horror movie
orchestrated against that child.

1434
01:25:52,230 --> 01:25:53,773
I asked the forensics officer,

1435
01:25:54,983 --> 01:25:57,068
"Why did you show, in the video,

1436
01:26:00,864 --> 01:26:03,116
that the stepmother strangled the victim

1437
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:06,327
if the doctor himself says
it can't be confirmed?"

1438
01:26:08,329 --> 01:26:10,748
It was an observation, as simple as that.

1439
01:26:11,332 --> 01:26:14,335
Alexandre Nardoni bites his nails
all the way to the base.

1440
01:26:14,878 --> 01:26:17,672
Anna, on the other hand,
had normal-length nails

1441
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,675
that could leave those marks.

1442
01:26:25,597 --> 01:26:27,765
[Ilana] Of course,
some people question it.

1443
01:26:27,849 --> 01:26:30,185
They make sure to pinpoint every mistake,

1444
01:26:30,268 --> 01:26:33,104
but every investigation
in the world has flaws.

1445
01:26:35,106 --> 01:26:36,441
Then I said to the jury,

1446
01:26:36,524 --> 01:26:39,736
"This report was done by the Institute
of Forensic Medicine of São Paulo,

1447
01:26:39,819 --> 01:26:43,406
one of the most respected in the country,
and by Hospital das Clínicas."

1448
01:26:44,032 --> 01:26:45,283
"But Mister Podval,

1449
01:26:45,366 --> 01:26:47,243
who has never attended
a medical school…"

1450
01:26:47,327 --> 01:26:50,705
"No one in his team
understands forensic medicine,

1451
01:26:50,788 --> 01:26:53,208
yet they want to tell you this is a lie."

1452
01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:55,043
"Who would you rather trust here?"

1453
01:26:55,543 --> 01:26:57,086
[pensive music playing]

1454
01:27:06,846 --> 01:27:09,432
[Marcelo] Some parents think
it's okay to spank their children.

1455
01:27:09,933 --> 01:27:12,685
Let's say one of those parents
spank their child, the child fell,

1456
01:27:12,769 --> 01:27:14,938
hits their head on an edge and dies.

1457
01:27:16,147 --> 01:27:18,107
Considering this hypothesis,

1458
01:27:18,191 --> 01:27:19,984
let's say this father thought,

1459
01:27:20,526 --> 01:27:22,946
"Holy fucking shit! What do I do now?"

1460
01:27:23,488 --> 01:27:25,573
Then, he tries to fake an accident.

1461
01:27:34,082 --> 01:27:36,292
[Rosangela] Suddenly,
his mind stops working,

1462
01:27:36,376 --> 01:27:39,045
he's unable to make use
of critical thinking,

1463
01:27:39,128 --> 01:27:41,422
unable to think about consequences,

1464
01:27:41,506 --> 01:27:43,967
so he acts instinctively, aggressively.

1465
01:27:52,642 --> 01:27:53,643
There's a French term.

1466
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:55,770
The insanity of a couple.

1467
01:27:57,605 --> 01:28:01,025
It's very characteristic
of the Nardoni couple and others.

1468
01:28:02,151 --> 01:28:04,153
So they're not psychopaths.

1469
01:28:05,154 --> 01:28:08,116
Neither of them fit
the profile of a psychopath.

1470
01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:11,035
People are so much more
than the crime they commit.

1471
01:28:15,248 --> 01:28:16,916
[Ilana] Here's the thing, though.

1472
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,169
We can prove that both of them
took equal parts in it.

1473
01:28:20,253 --> 01:28:22,547
They are equally responsible
for her death.

1474
01:28:23,548 --> 01:28:25,758
And no matter how people spin this,

1475
01:28:26,759 --> 01:28:29,178
they can't remove the couple
from the crime scene

1476
01:28:29,262 --> 01:28:30,722
at the time of the fall.

1477
01:28:32,807 --> 01:28:34,684
No matter how we look at it,

1478
01:28:34,767 --> 01:28:38,479
they can't be placed elsewhere
at the time of the fall.

1479
01:28:38,563 --> 01:28:40,440
[tense music playing]

1480
01:28:42,900 --> 01:28:47,238
The trial reaches its fifth and last day
with no scheduled time to end.

1481
01:28:47,322 --> 01:28:49,991
After watching defense
and prosecution battle,

1482
01:28:50,074 --> 01:28:54,787
the jury will gather at the secret room
with the judge, prosecutor, and attorneys.

1483
01:28:56,581 --> 01:28:58,666
[Flávia] The people
who were outside of the courthouse,

1484
01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:02,754
and were waiting to listen to the judge
casting the sentence on the microphone

1485
01:29:02,837 --> 01:29:04,922
wouldn't react well if they got absolved.

1486
01:29:06,299 --> 01:29:10,219
And then the judge had the nerve
to place several loud speakers

1487
01:29:11,179 --> 01:29:12,472
out on the street

1488
01:29:13,848 --> 01:29:16,059
just to read a sentence out loud.

1489
01:29:17,352 --> 01:29:21,397
And a sentence which was,
at the very least, aggressive.

1490
01:29:21,481 --> 01:29:26,736
A hostile sentence against
those human beings whom he was judging.

1491
01:29:26,819 --> 01:29:28,029
He's a judge!

1492
01:29:30,406 --> 01:29:34,786
We're expecting the jury's decision
to be announced through a sound system

1493
01:29:35,578 --> 01:29:39,040
so that the people who are standing here
outside the courthouse

1494
01:29:39,123 --> 01:29:41,417
may hear the sentence in real time

1495
01:29:42,210 --> 01:29:46,005
as Judge Maurício Fossen
is reading it inside the courtroom.

1496
01:29:48,383 --> 01:29:50,551
[Maurício] Would the press
read my sentence live?

1497
01:29:50,635 --> 01:29:52,428
Would they present
their own version of it?

1498
01:29:52,512 --> 01:29:54,764
So each news channel could come up
with a different version

1499
01:29:54,847 --> 01:29:56,349
of what was said in the sentence.

1500
01:29:56,432 --> 01:29:58,684
All of that was taken into consideration.

1501
01:30:00,561 --> 01:30:03,731
[reporter 21] This is a surprising sight.
People are refusing to leave.

1502
01:30:04,482 --> 01:30:07,110
People were emotionally involved
in this whole thing.

1503
01:30:07,193 --> 01:30:10,238
The whole of Brazil and I
were waiting for that decision.

1504
01:30:11,697 --> 01:30:13,282
Then, during the last few moments,

1505
01:30:13,366 --> 01:30:14,992
I was with my husband.

1506
01:30:15,076 --> 01:30:18,830
I was holding his arm
and holding his hands just like this,

1507
01:30:19,539 --> 01:30:21,040
and we were waiting for the sentence.

1508
01:30:21,999 --> 01:30:24,502
The silence was nerve-racking.

1509
01:30:30,049 --> 01:30:33,886
When the judge, Maurício Fossen,
announced they were guilty,

1510
01:30:33,970 --> 01:30:36,848
I'm not sure how I didn't break
my husband's hand.

1511
01:30:38,683 --> 01:30:41,060
[Maurício] They are sentenced
to the following:

1512
01:30:41,144 --> 01:30:43,187
Alexandre Alves Nardoni

1513
01:30:43,271 --> 01:30:46,691
is sentenced to spend 31 years,
one month, and ten days in jail

1514
01:30:46,774 --> 01:30:48,943
for the practice
of homicide against a minor,

1515
01:30:49,735 --> 01:30:54,323
to a triple degree, aggravated by the fact
that the victim was his daughter.

1516
01:30:54,824 --> 01:30:57,368
Eight months of arrest
for procedural fraud.

1517
01:30:57,952 --> 01:31:00,997
Anna Carolina Trotta Peixoto Jatobá

1518
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,584
is sentenced to spend 26 years,
and eight months in jail

1519
01:31:04,667 --> 01:31:07,962
for homicide against a minor,
to a triple degree.

1520
01:31:09,046 --> 01:31:12,383
I cried, and I cried, and I cried
because that was…

1521
01:31:14,385 --> 01:31:17,930
the answer. It was the justice
I had sought for so long.

1522
01:31:20,516 --> 01:31:22,477
[reporter 22] A murderer's conviction

1523
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,230
announced by Judge Maurício Fossen
at Santana Courthouse

1524
01:31:26,314 --> 01:31:29,859
brought relief and tranquility
to an outraged population.

1525
01:31:33,571 --> 01:31:35,907
[Ana] I watched the sentence live on TV.

1526
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:37,408
They showed it on TV.

1527
01:31:39,452 --> 01:31:41,787
It reminded me of a FIFA World Cup final.

1528
01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:45,249
-[cheering]
-[fireworks bursting]

1529
01:31:56,552 --> 01:31:59,555
[all] Isabella! Isabella!

1530
01:32:01,849 --> 01:32:02,725
No!

1531
01:32:04,143 --> 01:32:06,771
It wasn't a moment to celebrate.

1532
01:32:06,854 --> 01:32:10,233
I just wanted justice to be done.
And it was.

1533
01:32:10,316 --> 01:32:13,528
[cheering, fireworks continue]

1534
01:32:16,531 --> 01:32:18,741
[reporter 23] The sentence
of 31 years for him

1535
01:32:18,824 --> 01:32:22,328
and 26 years for her
pleased those who watched the trial.

1536
01:32:23,037 --> 01:32:25,373
That inspires hope
in all of us Brazilians.

1537
01:32:25,456 --> 01:32:27,375
Hope and trust in our justice system.

1538
01:32:27,458 --> 01:32:29,919
It's the least they could do
for the mother.

1539
01:32:30,002 --> 01:32:32,630
I love it! My soul is at peace.

1540
01:32:32,713 --> 01:32:35,341
[cheering]

1541
01:32:35,925 --> 01:32:38,261
[all] ♪ Justice! Justice! ♪

1542
01:32:38,344 --> 01:32:40,263
[fireworks bursting]

1543
01:32:43,266 --> 01:32:44,684
[man 18] Murderers!

1544
01:32:45,893 --> 01:32:47,687
[sirens wailing]

1545
01:32:48,521 --> 01:32:50,856
While the crowd
was screaming out there,

1546
01:32:51,566 --> 01:32:56,862
the sad silence inside the courtroom
was absolutely deafening.

1547
01:32:58,155 --> 01:33:00,157
The atmosphere was heavy.

1548
01:33:00,241 --> 01:33:01,993
It was hard to breathe

1549
01:33:02,952 --> 01:33:05,746
because who had really won here?

1550
01:33:06,414 --> 01:33:07,957
Nobody celebrated.

1551
01:33:08,499 --> 01:33:09,625
Nobody.

1552
01:33:09,709 --> 01:33:11,085
Nobody smiled.

1553
01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:32,982
Their sentence was given two years ago.

1554
01:33:33,065 --> 01:33:36,152
[reporter 24] Do you believe
the appeal will annul the trial?

1555
01:33:36,694 --> 01:33:38,863
It's hard to believe
in anything in this country.

1556
01:33:38,946 --> 01:33:40,489
But I'll keep on believing.

1557
01:33:48,289 --> 01:33:50,291
[Roberto] So this couple
has three children,

1558
01:33:50,374 --> 01:33:53,377
two of whom are their own,
and one belongs to the father.

1559
01:33:53,461 --> 01:33:54,712
They have a peaceful life

1560
01:33:54,795 --> 01:33:58,799
as seen in the videos of them
strolling through the parks and whatnot.

1561
01:33:58,883 --> 01:34:02,053
Then one day,
they arrive home, they go upstairs,

1562
01:34:02,136 --> 01:34:04,472
they fight, they hit one of the kids,

1563
01:34:05,264 --> 01:34:08,768
they use a pair of scissors
to cut a hole in the safety net,

1564
01:34:10,978 --> 01:34:13,773
and they throw the daughter
out of the window.

1565
01:34:13,856 --> 01:34:16,817
That was considered
an absolutely truthful story.

1566
01:34:18,402 --> 01:34:21,906
They convicted a couple
to over 30 years of prison for him,

1567
01:34:21,989 --> 01:34:23,407
and 26 for her,

1568
01:34:23,491 --> 01:34:25,951
but they can't determine who did what.

1569
01:34:27,453 --> 01:34:29,246
There are no doubts in my mind

1570
01:34:29,330 --> 01:34:32,291
that the story we heard
did not actually happen.

1571
01:34:32,375 --> 01:34:33,918
No shadow of a doubt.

1572
01:34:40,007 --> 01:34:43,719
I'm going to say this today,
and you may call me out in a few years.

1573
01:34:43,803 --> 01:34:47,431
That this is the first and only trial
for the Isabella Nardoni case.

1574
01:34:47,515 --> 01:34:50,726
There will not be another trial
pertaining to this case.

1575
01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:53,145
[pensive music playing]

1576
01:34:54,230 --> 01:35:00,778
SINCE 2008, ALEXANDRE NARDONI
AND ANNA CAROLINA JATOBÁ REMAIN IN PRISON

1577
01:35:00,861 --> 01:35:05,866
THEY DENY THEY COMMITTED THE CRIME

1578
01:35:10,788 --> 01:35:13,249
[Marcos] If they were keeping a lie
up to this point,

1579
01:35:13,332 --> 01:35:15,751
one can't help but wonder
if the husband and the wife

1580
01:35:17,545 --> 01:35:20,881
had some sort of agreement
that allowed them to endure their arrest

1581
01:35:20,965 --> 01:35:24,343
and the ensuing impact
on their entire family

1582
01:35:24,427 --> 01:35:28,764
while still maintaining their allegations
of innocence towards the crime.

1583
01:35:37,815 --> 01:35:40,776
[Marcelo] I suppose there was
a certain expectation among people

1584
01:35:40,860 --> 01:35:42,528
that either the father or the stepmother

1585
01:35:42,611 --> 01:35:46,365
would eventually confess
and describe what had actually happened.

1586
01:35:48,743 --> 01:35:51,328
[Aldo] They want
the shortest sentence they can get.

1587
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:53,414
I mean, they're a young couple.

1588
01:35:53,497 --> 01:35:56,333
They still have a life to live
once they get out.

1589
01:36:05,092 --> 01:36:06,510
What's left of that man?

1590
01:36:06,594 --> 01:36:10,055
When he leaves jail, he'll take a look
in the mirror and say, "I'm a murderer?"

1591
01:36:10,139 --> 01:36:11,474
"I killed my daughter?"

1592
01:36:12,850 --> 01:36:16,729
How can he look his son in the eye
and say, "Your dad killed your sister"?

1593
01:36:18,230 --> 01:36:20,649
Maybe the least dramatic way
to go about it

1594
01:36:20,733 --> 01:36:24,111
is to consider yourself
a victim of a huge tragedy,

1595
01:36:24,779 --> 01:36:26,197
of a legal mistake.

1596
01:36:28,407 --> 01:36:31,202
To look at it like you're paying
for something you didn't do.

1597
01:36:31,285 --> 01:36:33,037
Because when you tell yourself that,

1598
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,832
you give yourself strength to move forward
without looking back.

1599
01:36:38,751 --> 01:36:41,170
If, in fact, they are guilty,
as the sentence shows,

1600
01:36:41,253 --> 01:36:44,381
it's understandable
that they would refrain from confessing.

1601
01:36:46,842 --> 01:36:51,013
Because confessing would mean losing
any remaining sympathy they might have.

1602
01:36:51,096 --> 01:36:55,309
The doubt, you know? The remaining doubt
if they were victims of an injustice.

1603
01:36:59,188 --> 01:37:00,856
[Ilana] They are both guilty,

1604
01:37:00,940 --> 01:37:03,359
even if their guilt lies in their silence.

1605
01:37:03,859 --> 01:37:06,237
It is highly unlikely
for such a crime to have occurred

1606
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:07,863
without their involvement.

1607
01:37:07,947 --> 01:37:11,700
Especially considering how this story
suggests their complicity.

1608
01:37:16,247 --> 01:37:19,583
[Roberto] I've never seen,
in the history of criminology,

1609
01:37:19,667 --> 01:37:24,463
a couple who was convicted,
then thrown in jail for over ten years,

1610
01:37:26,298 --> 01:37:29,844
and after all these years,
kept their story about being innocent

1611
01:37:29,927 --> 01:37:32,054
and who are still together as a couple.

1612
01:37:32,763 --> 01:37:36,642
It is obvious that they both would've
had the opportunity to be released

1613
01:37:37,268 --> 01:37:39,228
if one had accused the other.

1614
01:37:46,026 --> 01:37:47,862
[Marcos] We're left with a question.

1615
01:37:49,405 --> 01:37:53,450
Would the stepmother accept paying
for something she didn't do?

1616
01:37:57,496 --> 01:37:59,290
[pensive music playing]

1617
01:38:03,210 --> 01:38:07,756
[Rosa] I ran into Jatobá,
Anna's father, at the courthouse.

1618
01:38:09,174 --> 01:38:14,680
I ran into him in the hall, and I said,
"Mr. Jatobá, tell her to confess."

1619
01:38:15,514 --> 01:38:17,308
"Tell her to confess."

1620
01:38:17,391 --> 01:38:21,437
He said, "Mrs. Rosa,
I told her, but they won't let her."

1621
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:22,646
"They won't let her."

1622
01:38:22,730 --> 01:38:26,317
He told me that.
I heard it with this very ear.

1623
01:38:33,616 --> 01:38:37,161
Financial abuse
is a significant aspect in this case.

1624
01:38:38,829 --> 01:38:42,291
It's not something you hear about often,
but it does exist.

1625
01:38:42,374 --> 01:38:46,170
This woman's decisions
are subject to financial control,

1626
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:51,008
where even purchasing sanitary pads
requires seeking permission and funds.

1627
01:38:51,091 --> 01:38:54,094
The lack of independence
in acquiring basic necessities

1628
01:38:54,178 --> 01:38:56,055
is degrading for any woman.

1629
01:38:56,138 --> 01:38:58,474
Without receiving financial support,

1630
01:38:59,475 --> 01:39:02,603
she wouldn't even have the means
to afford a private attorney

1631
01:39:04,021 --> 01:39:06,565
or to provide for her children's welfare.

1632
01:39:06,649 --> 01:39:08,567
The decision
to remain together as a couple

1633
01:39:08,651 --> 01:39:10,986
involves multiple complex factors.

1634
01:39:11,654 --> 01:39:14,448
Nobody is naive enough
to think that after 14 years,

1635
01:39:14,531 --> 01:39:16,909
they're still living
in a romantic fairy tale.

1636
01:39:17,826 --> 01:39:23,916
SINCE 2022, THE COUPLE
HAS BEEN GRANTED SPECIAL FURLOUGHS,

1637
01:39:23,999 --> 01:39:30,089
INCLUDING ON MOTHER'S DAY
AND FATHER'S DAY.

1638
01:39:39,431 --> 01:39:43,143
[Ana] After Isabella passed away,
and after the trial,

1639
01:39:43,227 --> 01:39:45,896
I really needed a fresh start to my life.

1640
01:39:46,397 --> 01:39:49,191
[birds chirping]

1641
01:39:49,274 --> 01:39:52,611
I thank God I had the opportunity
to meet my current husband,

1642
01:39:52,695 --> 01:39:54,071
an amazing person.

1643
01:39:56,281 --> 01:39:57,700
He embraced my story.

1644
01:39:59,952 --> 01:40:01,620
He got into a relationship with me

1645
01:40:01,704 --> 01:40:04,415
knowing from the start
that it wouldn't be easy.

1646
01:40:05,541 --> 01:40:07,376
And I rebuilt my life with him.

1647
01:40:09,003 --> 01:40:10,045
With him,

1648
01:40:12,673 --> 01:40:15,342
I experienced the joy
of becoming a mother once more.

1649
01:40:16,218 --> 01:40:18,721
Which is something I've always dreamed of.

1650
01:40:24,643 --> 01:40:26,770
I've always wanted
to become a mother again.

1651
01:40:26,854 --> 01:40:28,147
It was a goal of mine.

1652
01:40:28,230 --> 01:40:30,607
And thankfully,
I was able to fulfill that goal.

1653
01:40:35,487 --> 01:40:38,115
It was an emotionally
challenging pregnancy.

1654
01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:44,079
Because as soon as I got pregnant again,
everything started to surface once more.

1655
01:40:44,163 --> 01:40:46,123
[gentle music playing]

1656
01:40:48,625 --> 01:40:50,210
But after being pregnant with Miguel,

1657
01:40:50,294 --> 01:40:54,048
I was pregnant with Maria Fernanda,
and that was a little easier.

1658
01:40:57,426 --> 01:40:58,594
Today,

1659
01:41:00,471 --> 01:41:02,681
I'm not an overprotective mom.

1660
01:41:02,765 --> 01:41:04,850
I never tried to hide it from them.

1661
01:41:05,642 --> 01:41:07,978
They don't carry this burden of being…

1662
01:41:11,523 --> 01:41:14,401
the siblings of someone
who suffered so much.

1663
01:41:19,031 --> 01:41:22,034
For a long time,
I'd go to bed thinking that,

1664
01:41:24,161 --> 01:41:27,164
"I want us to meet again,
no matter where."

1665
01:41:28,874 --> 01:41:31,251
"Where ever you are, I want us to meet."

1666
01:41:34,046 --> 01:41:36,173
"I promised you something,
and I delivered it."

1667
01:41:37,216 --> 01:41:38,926
"Here's where we start anew."

1668
01:41:48,102 --> 01:41:54,024
THE NARDONI AND JATOBÁ FAMILIES REFUSED
TO GIVE AN INTERVIEW FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY

1669
01:41:58,278 --> 01:42:03,617
BASED ON THE BOOKS BY ILANA CASOY
AND ROGÉRIO PAGNAN

1670
01:42:03,909 --> 01:42:06,703
[gentle music playing]

1671
01:44:03,362 --> 01:44:04,613
[music fades]