1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:18,039 --> 00:00:24,760 I took train number ten, which was going on the Moscow to Samara route. 4 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:29,120 I was going to meet my mother, whose birthday I'd missed, 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,759 and three minutes before the train's departure 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,920 a man burst through the open door, shouted my name. 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,600 I answered 'Yes'. 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,960 After that, he started pouring terrible stinking red liquid on me. 9 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,280 He ran out of the compartment. 10 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,119 I somehow wiped the paint 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,480 from my eyes, grabbed my phone, and ran after him. 12 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,879 You bastard! 13 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,359 He was already standing next to a policeman. 14 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:16,719 He came into my compartment. 15 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:18,920 He shouted 'Muratov'. 16 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,159 He covered me in paint, shouting 'For our boys'. 17 00:01:22,439 --> 00:01:24,200 I don't know what this means. 18 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Take your mask off! 19 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:33,319 I understand the message they were sending. 20 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,159 "Shut up" 21 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:40,480 "And keep your newspaper quiet". 22 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:49,319 THE PRICE OF TRUTH 23 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,800 The Nobel Peace Prize for 2021 24 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:25,759 has been awarded to two outstanding representatives of the press, 25 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Maria Ressa working in the Philippines 26 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,520 and Dmitry Muratov working in the Russian Federation. 27 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:58,919 Does everybody have their headphones? 28 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:03,919 On the morning of October 8th, 29 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,080 I received a phone call from my mother. 30 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,039 She wondered how things were going. 31 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,479 Well, Mum, we've got the Nobel Prize... 32 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:16,639 'That's nice. Anything else?' 33 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,560 Look here, Mum I'll tell you everything. 34 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,400 The world has fallen out of love with democracy. 35 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,080 The world has begun to turn towards dictatorship. 36 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,199 In my country, and not only there, it is popular to think 37 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,199 that politicians who avoid bloodshed are weak, 38 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,759 while threatening the world with war is the duty of true patriots. 39 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,560 We are journalists, and our mission is clear: 40 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:12,319 to distinguish between fact and fiction. 41 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:17,360 But journalism in Russia is going through dark times. 42 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,560 Over the last few months 43 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:24,000 over one hundred journalists, media outlets, and human rights defenders 44 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:27,240 have been branded as "Foreign Agents". 45 00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:31,560 In Russia, this means "enemies of the people." 46 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,959 Democracy needs rehabilitation. 47 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:40,720 Let us put it bluntly. 48 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,879 If we give up on democracy, we agree to war. 49 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,480 The dawn chorus that no one wants to hear. 50 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Air raid sirens in Kyiv 51 00:04:57,639 --> 00:05:01,160 signalling that the full-scale invasion of a European country 52 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,600 in the year 2022 was well under way. 53 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:10,600 I have decided to conduct a special military operation. 54 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,879 To this end, we will strive to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, 55 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,279 as well as to bring to justice those who have committed bloody crimes 56 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:30,120 against civilians, including those of the Russian Federation. 57 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:45,720 It's a catastrophe. It makes me feel emotional. 58 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:51,439 This is a historic tragedy created by Vladimir Putin. 59 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,759 Whoever tries to prevent us, 60 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,800 or threatens our country and its people, 61 00:05:59,879 --> 00:06:04,279 should know that Russia's response will be immediate 62 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,959 and it will lead to consequences the like of which 63 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,759 you have never experienced in your history. 64 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,920 Where can I run to? 65 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:36,480 I think that Russia may destroy Ukraine, but it will not conquer it. 66 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,639 - Ok... Dima! - Hi! I'm here! 67 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,360 - Where are you? - We don't see you? 68 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:03,439 It's not every year a friend wins the Nobel peace prize. 69 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,560 I've known Dima for twenty years. 70 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,160 We met when I was making a documentary 71 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,439 in the chaos of the early 2000s. 72 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:14,319 In turbulent Russia, he's always stayed the same. 73 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:18,160 Open hearted, principled and brave. 74 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,319 Patrick, the whole world is against the war. 75 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:28,279 Twenty five million people in Russia are against the war 76 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,399 that's an official estimate. 77 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:35,759 It's very important that people who oppose the war have their own voice. 78 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:38,240 For us, that's the most important thing. 79 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:45,560 Readers are our country. 80 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,759 Dima founded his paper in 1993, 81 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:11,759 it's been responsible for scoop after scoop: the horror of the Chechen war, 82 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:16,959 the billions stolen by the ruling elite, the brutality of Modern Russia. 83 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,120 Somehow Dima has managed to keep it alive, 84 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:26,959 to walk the tightrope of unrelenting Kremlin pressure. 85 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,519 He agrees that we can film him and his paper. 86 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Just one condition, don't put their lives at risk . 87 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,039 We don't know anything. 88 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:41,960 You don't know anything. Nobody knows anything. 89 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:44,480 Because it all happens in one person's head. 90 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,960 And we don't even know if he's flexing his finger 91 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:49,240 ready to press the nuclear button or not. 92 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:53,720 And everyone around is walking around whispering, 'It's 50/50' 93 00:08:55,759 --> 00:09:01,720 '50% he will, 50% he won't.' 94 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,399 Novaya owes its existence to another Nobel Laureate, Mikhail Gorbachev. 95 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:17,919 Even the first computers to arrive in Novaya Gazeta's offices in 1993 96 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,039 were bought by Gorbachev with his Nobel Prize money. 97 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,159 I met him when he was President of the Soviet Union and I interviewed him. 98 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:32,759 I came to the Kremlin and my ID was checked five times before 99 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,200 I went to his office. 100 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:37,879 I got mad. 101 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,679 And when I went into Gorbachev's office, 102 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,480 I demanded that he show me his ID too. 103 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:52,759 That is a great picture! 104 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,720 At first, he started laughing, 105 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:57,879 then he climbed into the safe and took out his ID. 106 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,919 In fact, I read it, it said 'President'. 107 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,879 Job Title: President. 108 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:08,120 We haven't been separated for 33 years since then. 109 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:11,039 Fantastic! 110 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,200 All my life I've been friends with Mikhail Gorbachev, 111 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:20,919 who had the same principle. 112 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:28,039 We must open Russia up to the world, and open the world up to Russia. 113 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,519 And this principle has been blown up. 114 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:35,279 Twenty of them flew past. 115 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,639 This was Antonov International airport, 116 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,799 fifteen miles from the centre. 117 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,519 And these were Russian helicopter gunships. 118 00:10:44,759 --> 00:10:47,440 This airfield is now being used to bring in the troops 119 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:49,120 that will storm the capital. 120 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,039 As Russia's tanks pour into Ukraine, the government clamps down at home, 121 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:02,919 bringing in new laws limiting what anyone, 122 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,200 particularly tricky journalists can say about the special operation. 123 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,440 If you write the word 'war', you'll be shut down. 124 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:14,440 If you tell us how the fighting is going on in Ukraine, 125 00:11:14,519 --> 00:11:16,320 you have no right to do so, 126 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,399 because you must only cite the point of view 127 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,080 of the official military authorities. 128 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:22,679 This is absolutely ferocious censorship. 129 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,000 No, no, no, I'm not allowed to have anyone buy tickets for me. 130 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,399 - Well, you're going to talk. - But no, you can't. It's the law. 131 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,480 But we always buy tickets and pay for the hotels. 132 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,600 So don't be offended, please. 133 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,759 I can't do this, 134 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:56,000 otherwise I will be recognised as a Foreign Agent in Russia. 135 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,000 I'm not ready to be a Western agent. 136 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,480 I want to remain a Russian journalist. 137 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:22,240 I get a message, Dima is in Latvia on the jury of a documentary festival. 138 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,360 We can talk freely there. 139 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:30,399 Somehow, I don't think it's just about the art of documentary film making. 140 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,799 Putin thinks he needs to win World War II again. 141 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:54,519 - And, how does it end? - Sad. There's no happy ending. 142 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:02,159 - Yeah, and you keep fighting? - I'm not fighting. I'm working. 143 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Just work. And my main task 144 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,440 is to keep my employees safe. 145 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,519 You take it! 146 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:37,320 I have to send the whole of my editorial team, 147 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:44,240 which was collected like diamonds, to emigrate, to leave. 148 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,399 I am negotiating this at the moment, right here. 149 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,360 The day before yesterday I met with the President. 150 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:56,200 Today the Minister of Foreign Affairs. 151 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:01,480 The current estimate is between twenty and forty people. 152 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,320 I can't let anyone in on the details. 153 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:09,879 These are secret negotiations, understand? 154 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Give me your word, because I don't trust Yelena, 155 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,759 I love her but I don't trust her. 156 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Yelena, your promises are well known. 157 00:14:19,919 --> 00:14:22,879 You forget and then you say, 'I misunderstood'. 158 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,840 He's right to be careful. Since he founded the paper, 159 00:14:29,919 --> 00:14:32,320 six Novaya journalists have been killed 160 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:34,879 after their reports offended the Kremlin. 161 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,639 My personal pain, and my fault is 162 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,720 we lost so many people, murdered, from the paper. 163 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,240 Igor Domnikov was the first. 164 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,399 He was a brilliant guy. 165 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:03,519 He was killed by bandits for his series of investigations. 166 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,360 Yuri Shchekochikhin, my closest friend 167 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,399 and an outstanding journalist. 168 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,799 He was poisoned. 169 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Anna Politkovskaya, she made it to Chechnya, disobeying all orders. 170 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,159 And I was on vacation at the time. 171 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,919 Of course, I blame myself terribly for this. 172 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,960 I should also mention Nastya Baburova and Stas Markelov. 173 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Natasha Estemirova, who was Anya Politkovskaya's main collaborator 174 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,919 on Chechnya. 175 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:46,120 Their portraits hang on the walls right above the table where we meet 176 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:49,840 and I see them a lot of times a day. 177 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,919 I'm ashamed of myself, but not the newspaper. 178 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,120 We are already handing out weapons and will give them to anyone 179 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:18,200 who has the capacity to defend our sovereignty. 180 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:29,799 Thank you, Dmitry Muratov 181 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:33,679 and the thousands and thousands of other worthy Russians 182 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:36,519 whose conscience stands firm. 183 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:43,320 Just stop those who lie, lie to all of us. 184 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,639 Like everyone around him in Riga, 185 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,360 I spent three days trying to convince him not to go back to Moscow, 186 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,960 that it isn't safe, particularly after Zelenskyy's endorsement. 187 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:01,480 Today, he's off. 188 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,200 My flight lands in Moscow at 4.50am. 189 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,400 My colleagues will meet me at the airport, 190 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:13,519 we will have a drink, 191 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,920 I'll have a nap and be at work at 12:00pm. 192 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Just as he climbs into his minibus another one pulls up. 193 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,160 Overnight a party of journalists has escaped from Russia. 194 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:32,119 So how long have you known him? 195 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:35,000 Fifteen years, no, yeah fifteen years. 196 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:39,079 I came to Novaya Gazeta in 2006 when I was nineteen years old. 197 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,559 He's like my second father. 198 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,279 People think that his job is to be the Chief Editor 199 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,680 but his job is to save people 200 00:17:45,759 --> 00:17:47,200 and he has always been like that 201 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,480 and in general this feeling that we are going to the west 202 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:51,680 and he's going to the east is always kind of, 203 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:55,440 is another symbolic sign of separation. 204 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,519 Where are you going? 205 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200 To a safer place than Moscow, 206 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:05,839 I don't disclose the location for security reasons, you know, 207 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,319 I would prefer not to disclose locations to Russia's secret services. 208 00:18:16,279 --> 00:18:19,240 I'm afraid something might happen to him. 209 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:24,599 I wouldn't go, but that is why, you know, he's ... 210 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,200 Why wouldn't you go? 211 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:29,720 Because I know that they most likely will arrest me, I know that, 212 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:32,359 nobody survives Russian prison 213 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,240 or at least you know there is a very small chance 214 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:36,000 that you can survive Russian prison. 215 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:40,519 He knows all of that, and despite that, he goes back. 216 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:52,920 Muratov? Look, if he doesn't break Russian law 217 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:58,079 and if he doesn't give a reason to be declared a Foreign Agent, 218 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,200 then he won't be declared one. 219 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Everyone needs to clearly understand, 220 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:06,480 it is necessary to comply with Russian Law. 221 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,559 I'm all too aware that my friend's desire to challenge authority 222 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,559 conflicts with centuries of state power in Russia. 223 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,720 Whether it's the Tsar, the Politburo or the President. 224 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:41,519 That Russia has always been ruled by one central authority, 225 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,920 that Putin is not the aberration but the brutal norm. 226 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,319 - Why did you become a journalist? - That's an old story. 227 00:19:58,279 --> 00:20:03,160 One day my friend and I went to get autographs 228 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,960 from some great hockey players who came to our closed city. 229 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,119 This is the city of Kuibyshev 230 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,559 and these great hockey players, who came to Kuibyshev every three years 231 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,400 when we asked for their autographs, they told us to fuck off 232 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:20,279 and we were terribly insulted and hurt. 233 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:23,480 I didn't know that our mothers wrote to the newspaper 234 00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:27,359 and they sent an envelope with two photographs. 235 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:32,400 One 'To Dima' from CSKA goalkeeper Vladislav Tretiak. 236 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,200 And one 'To Zhenya' from CSKA goalkeeper Vladislav Tretiak. 237 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:38,559 This absolutely amazed me 238 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,119 and I realised that I wanted to work for a newspaper. 239 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Anyway, it all started when they told me to fuck off. 240 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,519 Dima started as a paratrooper fighting in Afghanistan. 241 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Demobbed he immediately joined Komsomolskaya Pravda 242 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:55,000 as a war reporter. 243 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:58,720 Fed up with state interference there, he and a bunch of colleagues left 244 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:03,200 and founded Novaya Gazeta. Within two years he was editor. 245 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:20,720 Let's talk about cutting through, 246 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,559 interrupting the Channel 1 flagship news last night 247 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,160 with a homemade placard. 248 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:28,640 The studio director immediately cut away to something else. 249 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,880 A very vague law passed 11 days ago 250 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,920 and now you face up to 15 years in prison in Russia 251 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,240 for calling the war, the war. 252 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,160 I still have a question about 'Foreign Agents'. 253 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,519 This law has no judgement. There is no court there. 254 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,200 You are declared a 'Foreign Agent', 255 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:10,000 there is no evidence, there is no sentence. 256 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,160 You are just branded a criminal. 257 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,920 Let me remind you of our favourite childhood book. 258 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,400 This is exactly what happened to Milady in The Three Musketeers. 259 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,480 But when Milady was beheaded, by the hangman at dawn, 260 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,640 she was at least finally read the sentence. 261 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:28,200 First of all, 262 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:32,319 I would like to congratulate you on being awarded the Nobel Prize. 263 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,359 So, your concern about foreign agents. 264 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,200 I'm not going to beat around the bush. 265 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:44,599 You said there was no verdict. You're right, there really isn't one. 266 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,039 Milady was sentenced and her head was cut off, 267 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,920 but no one is cutting anything off here. 268 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,960 I'm shocked at what happened, at what I'm seeing. 269 00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:04,960 I saw Putin a year and one week before the invasion of Ukraine. 270 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,039 He said that it was not in Russia's interests to annex any territories. 271 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,759 He was completely cool and calm. Something happened this year 272 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,279 that changed Putin's whole line of thought. 273 00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:25,440 Everything that is happening is a desperate measure. 274 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,920 They've left us no other option. 275 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,519 I don't know what happened to him. 276 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:40,519 For some reason, I think he could have been influenced 277 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:47,359 by the absolute loneliness of Covid, when he was alone with himself. 278 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,319 And no good came of this meeting between Putin and Putin. 279 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,640 It's raining bombs. 280 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,519 God knows how many died. 281 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:07,599 But we can't go and help. 282 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,839 Dima's confides his plan is to stay one step ahead of the authorities 283 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,039 in a risky game of cat and mouse. 284 00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:16,240 Patrick. We received two censorship warnings in one week. 285 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:22,599 That means there will be no further warning. 286 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,079 We will be stripped of our right to publish the newspaper. 287 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:31,119 Right, so look this is the first time you've suspended the paper, 288 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:36,920 this is your paper that you started, so how did that feel personally? 289 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,920 Well, the other option is this. 290 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:46,160 We are accused of extremism and our employees are put in prison. 291 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,799 And how dangerous is the situation for you all at the moment? 292 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,240 I don't think about the danger. 293 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,759 For us, for the newspaper, for our journalists, 294 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,960 I think the biggest danger is war. 295 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,440 We must stop the war and then talk about ourselves, 296 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,920 about our companies, about our newspapers. 297 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,440 Patrick, we'll be back. I promise you we'll be back. 298 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,839 Novaya Gazeta forever! 299 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,559 I'm going to say one more thing. No one knows this yet. 300 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,160 Patrick, my medal has a new destiny. 301 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Today we reached an agreement 302 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,559 with one of the largest auction houses in the world. 303 00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:49,240 That we're going to sell the Nobel medal at auction in New York. 304 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,240 And together with UNICEF. 305 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,759 Fantastic! Good. 306 00:26:54,839 --> 00:27:00,160 The money from the sale of this medal will be used to help refugees, 307 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,640 Ukrainian refugees and their children. 308 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:04,559 When? 309 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,680 Do you know when the auction will take place? 310 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,640 I know, but I won't tell you. No discussion! 311 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:13,720 Less of that! Ok, good luck! 312 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Two days later, Dima goes public. 313 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,119 I got into my compartment I took my seat. 314 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,359 I put on pyjamas and a New York Rangers jersey, 315 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,319 when a young man ran into the compartment 316 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,680 and asked "Are you Muratov?" I said "Yes". 317 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,079 He says "This is for you." 318 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,839 You bastard! 319 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,200 You can't, you bastard! 320 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Excuse me, please arrest this man. 321 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,400 Take your mask off! 322 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,960 He refused to take off his mask. 323 00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,640 I filmed him talking to a police officer 324 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:02,599 and saw that the policeman had his passport. 325 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,960 I need your phone, and I need to figure out 326 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:11,920 who leaked the seat number of the compartment I'm in. 327 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,599 Goodbye everyone, bye bye. 328 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:19,440 Let's see what you can do about it now. 329 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:20,960 We just called it in. 330 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,400 And I hope he would now be detained 331 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,559 because he had committed a crime. 332 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:44,680 My editorial team to whom I handed over any videos and clues, 333 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,480 within 24 hours, thanks to our investigative team, 334 00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,279 found the person who did it. 335 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880 He wasn't alone. 336 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,079 They belong to a military veteran group near Moscow. 337 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,559 All of them work under the roof of the secret services. 338 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,480 This happened a couple of days after you announced the auction. 339 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:20,839 So, was it a message? 340 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,240 This was within a week of announcing the auction. 341 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,119 Really, I hadn't thought about it, you're right! 342 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,319 They know which train I'm on, where I'm sitting. 343 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:42,079 They have access to all the databases. 344 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,160 'We represent the interests of the State'. That's what I was told. 345 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Dima calls. Turns out that the paint wasn't just paint. 346 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,160 It was laced with acetone. 347 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,440 Yesterday I was examined at an ophthalmology clinic. 348 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:22,960 I have burnt tissue in both eyes. And burns to the eyelids. 349 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,880 Worse in the left, less bad in the right. 350 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,039 Thank God the cornea isn't damaged. 351 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,599 If someone intends to intervene in what is happening from the outside, 352 00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:54,559 they should know, that they will create for Russia 353 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,759 an unacceptable strategic threat. 354 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:02,160 They should also know that our response 355 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,599 to oncoming strikes will be lightning fast. 356 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:20,400 We received another warning from Roskomnadzor 357 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,400 and the Prosecutor General's office. 358 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720 It was the second in a week. 359 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,680 And yet another fine, It's the tenth or twelfth, I don't remember. 360 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,359 1st April the twenty ninth birthday of the newspaper. 361 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,319 We all gathered probably for the last time 362 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,079 and it was the birthday of a paper that doesn't even go to print anymore. 363 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,799 I would like to tell you, that our country will need rehabilitation, 364 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,720 preferably during our lifetime. 365 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,960 And it will start with us. Because the outstanding work 366 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:07,359 that this newspaper has done under impossible conditions 367 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,039 will go down in history forever. 368 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,480 There are many people, lots of people who left, 369 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,920 who don't want to stay in Moscow. 370 00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,759 There were farewells every day in the office 371 00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:59,319 between those who stay and those who leave. 372 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,920 It was a tough goodbye. 373 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,760 My colleagues were walking down the corridor with backpacks and bags. 374 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,000 I won't see many of them for years, probably. 375 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719 And these are people we've lived our lives with. 376 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,719 They are the most talented people, who we found one by one. 377 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,519 They are all brilliant, talented professionals. 378 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,639 And so we say goodbye to them. 379 00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,079 The first fruits of Dima's secret negotiations. 380 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,079 An anonymous apartment block in a Riga suburb 381 00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,519 is now home to a handful of his journalists. 382 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,679 They are trying to put out Novaya Europe, 383 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,480 but they can't admit any link to Moscow 384 00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,760 for fear everyone there gets jailed. 385 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,639 We have worked here for let's say three or four weeks already. 386 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:26,239 We have to say that we totally different newspaper 387 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,039 from Novaya Gazeta in Moscow, you know, totally different. 388 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:31,159 No connection at all. 389 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,559 No, no connection at all. Absolutely no connection. 390 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,000 Yeah Absolutely not... another newspaper. 391 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:43,840 I feel like you have some kind of duty. The duty is to stop war. 392 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,320 Novaya Gazeta brings information, 393 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,159 brings information about the situation with casualties 394 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,760 and war losses for Russian society. 395 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,440 Our mission probably is to bring some unpleasant truth for Russians. 396 00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:00,559 For Dima, how is it for him? 397 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,960 I feel like it's tragedy for him, 398 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,480 that's a kind of personal loss. 399 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,800 Our task is to show that it was not a complete loss. 400 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,480 Close his eyes, my brother, over there, the fourth one. 401 00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,599 The fourth one? 402 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,760 The fourth one. Or which one is it? 403 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,000 Was this orchestrated or was this from just rogue units of the Russians? 404 00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,360 Of course, it was ordered to kill civilian's, it was order, 405 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,920 and what you see here in Bucha. 406 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,599 Actually you see it's not only war crimes, it's crimes against humanity. 407 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,920 The Bucha shock wave goes around the world but it doesn't reach Russia. 408 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,719 Reports of the atrocities are dismissed as lies 409 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,800 and Putin's ratings go up. 410 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:45,000 Today, at the foot of the country's largest hydro-electric dam 411 00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:47,960 an action was held in support of our country's military. 412 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:49,880 One hundred and fifty students from the Siberian Federal University 413 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,199 lined up with Russian flags into the letter Z. 414 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,800 It has already become a modern symbol characters of the fight against Nazism. 415 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,119 Dima decides he has to make another risky journey 416 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:14,760 and use the freedom of the west 417 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,920 to denounce the war in a way he cannot at home. 418 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:22,840 - Bonjour - Bonjour 419 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:32,079 Why is society, or the majority of it 420 00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,960 supporting the eternal power of Vladimir Putin? 421 00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:46,280 These polls, which show that the overwhelming majority 422 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,599 support the special operation in Ukraine, 423 00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:51,360 are all conducted by phone. 424 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:58,599 Someone calls and asks, 'Do you support the President's efforts?' 425 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:06,280 So they know your phone number, where you live, where you work. 426 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,599 They can check your internet search history. 427 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,519 And people, of course, can't be honest. 428 00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:17,920 Some of them. 429 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,400 There's a huge experiment happening with 150 million people. 430 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,280 Some people can resist propaganda, some can't. 431 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,719 I can't blame my whole country for supporting the war. 432 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,199 It's radiation. Propaganda is like radiation. 433 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:54,199 Over the last six months to a year, the largest media companies 434 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,440 that expressed alternative views to the government 435 00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,719 have been closed down. 436 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,800 When society doesn't notice that there is no free media left 437 00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,480 this means that propaganda has won. 438 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,719 Just remember all those stories about Viagra, 439 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960 packs of which are being handed out to our soldiers. 440 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:16,400 Yes, being handed out to our soldiers, 441 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,800 for them to rape Ukrainian grannies. 442 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,880 Gawd, those grannies would spend their burial savings 443 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,320 to get raped by Russian soldiers. 444 00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:36,719 These words are spoken by Head of the State Russian Channel RTR 445 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:44,079 and Director of Broadcasting for the whole of Russia, Anton Krasovsky. 446 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,320 Should Ukraine remain on the map of the world? 447 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,440 Everyday, 448 00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:01,599 more and more of Dima's journalists make the risky journey to Riga. 449 00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,679 Half of the paper's staff have fled Russia. 450 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:21,280 We need stable WIFI, some space, some furniture, and nothing else. 451 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,199 Look at all the people who are here. 452 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,559 Next week there will be more. 453 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,519 Maybe ten or twenty, let's say twenty. 454 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,559 Ok, this whole zone can be yours. 455 00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,920 20 people coming here? This is going to be an operation. 456 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,960 Yeah. One option is to just to keep silence in Russia and you know, 457 00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:56,320 no one wanted to do this. 458 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,840 Is there a deadline? 459 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:06,639 Preliminarily, we can say the 9th May. 460 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,079 A very good date! 461 00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:19,639 Dear Russian Citizens! 462 00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:26,079 Dear Veterans, fellow soldiers, and sailors, 463 00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:30,239 I congratulate you on The Great Victory Day! 464 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:41,800 So now you are fighting for our people in Donbass 465 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,440 and for the security of our Motherland, Russia. 466 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,760 Russia called on the West to engage in an honest dialogue, 467 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,039 search for reasonable compromise solutions, 468 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,840 and take into account each other's interests. 469 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,880 It's all in vain. 470 00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:12,199 Glory to our valiant armed forces, for Russia and for victory. 471 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,119 So, this is home? 472 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,719 This is home, yeah. This is our department and you can see... 473 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800 Hey, how are you? 474 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,320 Against the odds, Kirill gets his paper out on May the 9th. 475 00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,079 We publish here, it's like basically like a magazine. 476 00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,480 And so, we published it here in Riga 477 00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,519 and we sold it in Latvia and in Estonia. 478 00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:09,960 But we have a lot of problems with colour because, any colours we did, 479 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,880 it just looked like Russian Novaya Gazeta and it's unsafe for them. 480 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,440 So we tried to recreate new versions. 481 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,599 If you can imagine it was done in a week 482 00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,440 by a group of people who are basically sitting on suitcases. 483 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,119 You can imagine it's kind of good work 484 00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:36,039 and basically, I am proud of this. 485 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,320 We probably sold, let's say, 5,000 of copies. 486 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,199 Kirill and Dima are facing down an increasingly triumphant Kremlin. 487 00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:06,639 By the end of May Russian forces control 20% of Ukraine's territory. 488 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,599 How is it possible that for the first time in history 489 00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:29,800 the whole of life on Earth depends on the finger of one man? 490 00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,960 Many people will now take offence at me. 491 00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,000 How did many politicians behave? 492 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,679 They came to Moscow, met with human rights activists, 493 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,599 took pictures with them 494 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,400 and then went to sign trade agreements 495 00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:59,119 for oil, gas, titanium. 496 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,079 Have you read the EU report? 497 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:10,440 Ten EU countries have sold 237,000,000 Euros worth of weapons. 498 00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:14,159 Who knows whether these are being fired on Ukraine or not? 499 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,679 Bypassing sanctions, ten EU countries. 500 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,400 You do realise that Putin knows he is being sold arms, don't you?! 501 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:30,679 How can Europe say anything to him about values after that? 502 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,199 And this is the first time you've seen him since Oslo? 503 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,840 - Yes yes. - Not anymore. 504 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,199 I know it's been hard to get both of us together in the same place. 505 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,960 - It is. - We both have challenges to travel. 506 00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:59,440 Just in case I was attacked again, 507 00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:05,039 my editors made sure I had tickets 508 00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,440 from different airports and train stations 509 00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:09,960 to different destinations. 510 00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:17,639 Just like Dima, Maria runs an online operation independent of the state. 511 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920 just like Dima, she faces a hostile government. 512 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,239 So what's your personal situation? 513 00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,599 I heard something about a ton of court cases. 514 00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:29,880 Seven, I have seven left, 515 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,639 and I have to get approval to travel every single time 516 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,920 and it's like you know sometimes they give in and sometimes they don't. 517 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,280 Don't you ever get fed-up? 518 00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:44,519 I don't think we can, there's it's not an option. 519 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,480 Seriously it's not an option. 520 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,840 I also run a company with 100 people 521 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,639 who are doing great stuff, right... 522 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,599 My god, look at gorgeous Geneva. 523 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,679 Maria Ressa, she is one of the best investigative journalists on the planet. 524 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:14,440 Everyone has been concerned about her situation for a long time. 525 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,960 And I know that if you count all the prison terms 526 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,679 she could be sentenced to, 527 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,119 it would be just over one hundred years. 528 00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:33,639 You did, you put him in that blue suit. Very nice blue suit for these eyes. 529 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:41,840 - Take off your glasses. - It's okay! 530 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,280 It's too bright. 531 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,280 I believe I have an important idea 532 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,480 which I am discussing with European politicians. 533 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:03,639 I want big businesses worldwide and some states, 534 00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:08,320 to create a fund supporting exiled journalists. 535 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,800 85% of all journalists who have been murdered, 536 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,440 their cases have not been resolved so we have a problem of protection first 537 00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:23,000 but then on truth and justice. 538 00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,559 So that will be really important for us to know 539 00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:28,360 from your side what you think. 540 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,840 Switzerland can do, but also us at O.T.H.R. What can we do better? 541 00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,079 I'll, keep it short, 542 00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:39,440 so Dmitry gets... because his country invaded another one. Sorry! 543 00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:48,800 How free are we to express ourselves here? 544 00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:50,639 Is this being broadcasted somewhere, 545 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,719 or are we just talking amongst ourselves? 546 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,000 It would be great if we could talk without the cameras turned on. 547 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,039 How was Madam Bachelet? Did she give you anything? 548 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,199 She was in a hurry to get to the Hague. 549 00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,119 She kept asking how she could help. 550 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,440 We asked her how we could help the UN. 551 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,440 And the answer was? 552 00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:34,960 Yes, she said the UN is a big organisation, maybe too big. 553 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,920 But what did you want from her? 554 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,199 We want all of God's kingdom, heaven, and immortality. 555 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,360 Yes. 556 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,800 She didn't have it on her! 557 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,039 There is moral support and interest. 558 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,199 Sometimes that's important. 559 00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,880 It's like coming to the UN with your own couch 560 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:07,119 and lying down for a therapy session. 561 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,679 Okay. 562 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,159 Press safety is not an abstract issue for my friend and his team. 563 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:43,280 Our journalists have been repeatedly sent funeral wreaths. 564 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:56,400 At my CEO's country house, the gates were daubed with swastikas. 565 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,960 To my friend Venediktov, who lives near the editorial offices, 566 00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:07,000 they threw a pig's head at the door and drew an anti-Semitic sign. 567 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,960 This happens all the time. 568 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,039 We will continue to work under these conditions. 569 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:20,840 After a month away, 570 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,840 Dima's in Tallinn on the final leg of his journey back to Moscow. 571 00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:27,480 He has taken trains, boats, planes, 572 00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:31,559 all to throw the authorities off the scent to prevent another attack on him. 573 00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:41,639 You know, it's very hard to imagine your homeland without freedom. 574 00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:46,199 But it's just as hard to imagine freedom without your homeland. 575 00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,559 Right now, it is, for me, very scary for my colleagues in Russia. 576 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,679 I have anxiety about them, constant anxiety. 577 00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:02,039 We already lost too many. 578 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,760 When you see Dima, he's going back to Russia, what do you feel? 579 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,519 Me personally, I prefer he would not. 580 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,159 But I also know him too well 581 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:24,960 to expect that from him that he stay here, no, he goes, that's him, 582 00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:29,599 that's actually, he exists in Russia, he is Russia, for me. 583 00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,039 He belongs there. 584 00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,039 Are you scared? 585 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,440 You know we've made a deal about that. 586 00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,039 'Are you scared' and 'What about your safety' 587 00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,400 questions are not going to be answered. 588 00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:52,039 I work in Moscow. I can't leave the editorial team that is still there. 589 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,360 I can't leave those people, it's impossible. 590 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,519 In Moscow, it's day 1 of Dima's latest cunning move. 591 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,880 If he can't put out a physical paper, well how about a magazine? 592 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,519 With all the articles you can't otherwise publish? 593 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,360 We are now making a supplement to the closed newspaper, 594 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:45,559 which will be called the first syllable from Novaya Gazeta: 'NO'. 595 00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:59,440 As promised, in parallel with the magazine release, 596 00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:04,400 work is underway on a new internet platform. 597 00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:12,199 His second gambit, a YouTube channel, which could reach millions. 598 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,639 Running all the interviews you can't run. 599 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,280 We've stayed at home, stayed here with our readers who can't leave. 600 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,679 Not everyone can leave. 601 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,039 This means that someone has to stay with those who cannot leave. 602 00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:29,800 We don't think about the risks. 603 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,440 And now we will discuss with you the issue of printing houses. 604 00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,480 When Yuri Shchekochikhin was murdered, 605 00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:03,880 for the first time in my life, I felt like an orphan. 606 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,320 He was a whole huge world, he was my closest friend. 607 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,679 He, Major Ismailov and I 608 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,920 exchanged prisoners in the Chechen war for the first time. 609 00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:30,039 Thanks to Yuri and Ismailov, the paper exchanged 147 prisoners. 610 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,880 Got them out of there. 611 00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:40,400 And Shcekochikhin was the most important person in my life. 612 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,119 And throughout Novaya Gazeta's career, 613 00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:54,480 throughout the history of Novaya Gazeta, we have often helped people, 614 00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,239 rescued prisoners, 615 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:02,840 saved sick children with spinal muscular atrophy, helped prisoners. 616 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,719 I think this is our core mission. 617 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,480 I'm not an observer, I'm a participant. 618 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,960 Through all my conservations with Dima, there's one constant. 619 00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:23,199 I've got to be in New York on auction day. 620 00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:31,199 I'm feeling nervous. 621 00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:39,079 I don't want this to be just a symbolic gesture, 622 00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:46,320 I want to raise a seriously big sum of money 623 00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,000 to help Ukrainian refugees. 624 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,639 I was in hospital for cardiology examinations 625 00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:09,639 and I realised I felt incredibly powerless about what was happening. 626 00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:12,199 That the war had started and there was nothing I could do. 627 00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:15,519 And that night I thought 628 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:19,519 that one thing I could do is not to be self-pitying. 629 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,960 And that I should give away the most precious thing I have. 630 00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:32,719 I thought it would be very appropriate to auction a Nobel medal. 631 00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:39,519 When the war in Ukraine started 632 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,639 there was one day when it was really hard on me 633 00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:43,920 and I was crying on the phone with him, sobbing, 634 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,920 wailing you know, all of the ins and outs... 635 00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:51,639 and he went, Fin I know... that you feel really bad right now. 636 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,880 I think the only way for people like us to feel better 637 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,079 is to help those who feel even worse. 638 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,320 The choice of Heritage s absolutely intentional. 639 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,679 Heritage isn't taking a single percent from the sale of the medal. 640 00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:22,800 It's not my night, I'm just honoured to be part of it. 641 00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:27,079 Is there anything you need from me? 642 00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:32,480 It's a loaded question. 643 00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:44,960 I am very grateful to UNICEF who will take this money. 644 00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:48,159 UNICEF will distribute the money, not me or the newspaper. 645 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,840 - Now it's time! - Yes let's do this. 646 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,760 I'll be waiting for the third bang of the gavel. 647 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,400 And after the third one, one thing we can be sure of, 648 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,840 I will have a drink. 649 01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:14,559 It is my profound honour to welcome now Dmitry Muratov. 650 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:28,320 Today is International Refugee Day. And it's not a holiday. 651 01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:40,440 There are 16 million Ukrainian refugees... 40% are children. 652 01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:47,119 Two thirds of all children of Ukraine are forced to leave their homes. 653 01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:51,679 I am asking you all to think for a second that it is your child. 654 01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:59,199 Dmitry, are you ready to do this? Are you ready? 655 01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:05,199 875 now to go to 900, 875 now to go to 900. there's 900 thousand. 656 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,400 Thank you very much. 925, now to go to 9. Now to go to 950, 950. 657 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,719 There's a million dollars... we are over a million dollars! 658 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,360 OK let's make a bet as to how much it is going to get. 659 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,239 I say two and a half million. 660 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,440 Two and a half million dollars? 661 01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:31,960 If it goes for more, you owe me a 12 year old Macallan. 662 01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:36,800 And if it's less, I owe you one. 663 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,920 There's two million. Two million dollars. Two million. Two million. 664 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:51,280 Theres 2.4, 2.5. Now 2.6. Same bidders back and forth. Same bidders. 665 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,760 Don't look at her. Don't look at her. 666 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,119 Now we are going to three million dollars. Three million dollars. 667 01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:03,920 Nick are you on the phone? Let's go. There's four million dollars. 668 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,039 What do you think 669 01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:11,920 the Russian government's reaction to the auction is going to be? 670 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,559 I think there will be... 671 01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:20,159 a wave of hate from the propagandists. 672 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,920 I don't think it will be pleasant. 673 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,039 I think there are tons of idiots out there 674 01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:33,320 who will think they need to get back at me. 675 01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:42,039 The thing is, those people that covered me in paint, they are well known. 676 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320 The editorial team found them in a day. 677 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,639 They were detained by the police, but then released. 678 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,960 That means they have protection. 679 01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:56,000 It's complicated because I am angry at him 680 01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,119 because all I want for him is to be safe. 681 01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,599 The more he does, the less safe he is. 682 01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:07,599 But, I can't describe the kind of pride I feel. It's overwhelming. 683 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,920 I know he's... I'm scared but I know he's doing the right thing 684 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,960 and I was raised to believe that doing the right thing means the most. 685 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,599 I'm at 16.6 million. 16.6. 686 01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:23,840 Take another good look at what you are getting. Now 16.8. 687 01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:26,119 What do you think? Want to go to 16.8? 688 01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:29,239 He says he's thinking about it. 16.8. New bidder. Completely new guy. 689 01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:38,840 Can I just hear that one more time? 690 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,079 Take your mask off so I can hear you, please. 691 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,360 Stated value bids it 692 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,599 at one hundred and three million five hundred thousand dollars. 693 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,679 Well, that's one way to do it! 694 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,199 That's a lot of dough. 695 01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:15,159 It was shocking but like ... it's my dad. He always pulls crazy stunts. 696 01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:21,199 Something always happens. He calls us like his Angel Keeper 697 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,360 or whatever it is called in English. Guardian Angel. 698 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:29,639 He believes in Guardian Angels. Who knows? 699 01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,039 You did a good thing. Exactly what you wanted. 700 01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:56,639 A jubilant Dima suggests we meet in Paris on his long journey home. 701 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:07,159 If they forced you, is there anywhere other than Russia that you could live? 702 01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:12,400 Well, maybe in Russia as well. 703 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,920 I could, for a while... 704 01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:23,360 live in the city of Bruges. 705 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,119 I fell in love with this small town. 706 01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:28,440 But a week at most. 707 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,800 - Really? You'd be so bored. - I want a boring life. 708 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,559 I need a week of boring life. 709 01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:40,519 This is my dream, give me a week of boring life. 710 01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:46,199 Where nothing happens, so I can forget what day of the week it is. 711 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,519 I'm gonna ask my usual question. Is it safe to go back? 712 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,800 I don't know. 713 01:05:57,679 --> 01:05:58,840 I don't know. 714 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,960 I don't know, it's not my decision. I don't know how they will react. 715 01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:09,280 Whether they will declare me an enemy and a Foreign Agent, or not. 716 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,639 There is nothing but the unknown ahead. 717 01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:38,480 Do you have any idea who bought the medal? 718 01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,800 This is a consortium, lawyers explained. 719 01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:47,800 So it's not just one person. 720 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,559 More importantly, 721 01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,360 I know that UNICEF, Heritage and the bank 722 01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:02,239 have been very thorough in checking the provenance of the money. 723 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,400 I warned your producer, Patrick, 724 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,880 with respect, your documentary project lost. 725 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,280 And that's why I drink what you lost to me. 726 01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,000 He can't enjoy my whisky for long. 727 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,280 The Kremlin moves for check in the deadly game they are playing with him. 728 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,920 Everyone knows that an order was issued on Saturday 729 01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:01,159 to block the website. 730 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,199 I tried to find out in an unofficial way 731 01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,960 why they suddenly attacked at such speed, 732 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,679 but as Sokolov wrote: 733 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,440 'The baby survived for seven days and nine hours.' 734 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,000 Let's just bring you some breaking news. 735 01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:31,680 The former Russian President Mikhail Gorbachev had died. 736 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,479 He was 91 years old. 737 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,079 Gorbachev put Human Rights above State Law. 738 01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:14,479 For Gorbachev, world peace was more important than personal power. 739 01:09:17,239 --> 01:09:20,840 30 years without war, without the threat of nuclear war. 740 01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:24,279 No-one else has been able to give the world 741 01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:25,720 such a gift for thirty years. 742 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,479 Patrick, I knew Gorbachev like this. 743 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,439 - Great shot! - Tough, smart, fast. 744 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,800 I saw Gorbachev happy. 745 01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:48,760 Very happy, they were a sexy couple. 746 01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:55,920 This is saying goodbye to Raisa. 747 01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,039 I love this man. 748 01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:06,119 He was not afraid of the opposition. 749 01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:10,159 He was not afraid of competition, he was not afraid to end war. 750 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,920 Good afternoon, dear colleagues! 751 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,560 We have already heard many times 752 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,239 that the West wants to fight us to the last Ukrainian. 753 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,359 This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people. 754 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,920 But it seems that this is how it's going be. 755 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:46,399 Everyone should know that we haven't even got started yet. 756 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:55,920 Not a single person from the entire Russian elite dared say a word to Putin. 757 01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:59,520 And these people call themselves the elite. 758 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:07,279 This elite has received absolutely everything from Putin. 759 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,720 The elite is scared of Putin, more than anything else in the world. 760 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,239 More than God. 761 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,880 Suddenly opposition figure after opposition figure is detained, 762 01:11:26,199 --> 01:11:28,680 all of them facing huge jail sentences. 763 01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:16,399 Our employees are being imprisoned. 764 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,560 For example, Andrei Zayakin, who is responsible for the big data department. 765 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,840 He is a great scientist. 766 01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:27,720 Special forces broke into his apartment. 767 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:33,239 They stormed his apartment, because three years ago, 768 01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:39,199 he transferred one thousand roubles, that's ten pounds, 769 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,279 in support of the politician Alexei Navalny. 770 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,479 We're living now in a pirate state 771 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,680 where they have guns and others don't have guns. 772 01:12:57,319 --> 01:12:58,560 Some do whatever they want, 773 01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:02,319 while others are forced to do what they say, like Navalny. 774 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,720 Of course, I was absolutely hocked by this photo. 775 01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:14,000 Look at what Alexei Navalny has been turned into. 776 01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:19,039 Now I'm not a political supporter of Alexei Navalny, 777 01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:26,880 but JK Rowling in her book, 778 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,720 I think it's "The Prisoner of Azkaban", 779 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,960 there are Dementors who suck the life and joy out of a person. 780 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,359 He's a critic of the current regime, and life is being sucked out of him. 781 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,199 In early September, 782 01:13:51,279 --> 01:13:55,880 it's checkmate the government launches a wave of court cases 783 01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,199 that will close all of Novaya's operations inside Russia, for good. 784 01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:07,600 Guided by Article 175, 785 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,840 the court has decided to invalidate the registration 786 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:16,680 of the newspaper Novaya Gazeta, registration recorded June 4th 2006. 787 01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:23,000 Serial Number RF 77241833. 788 01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:29,199 A decision that has no legal basis. 789 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,640 We are being tried for allegedly not handing over 790 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:38,039 any documents twenty years ago, although everything was handed over. 791 01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:43,960 The verdict had already been decided, it just hadn't been announced. 792 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,960 This is absolutely obvious to everyone. 793 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,640 Tomorrow, we have another court appearance. 794 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,319 Where are we going to court tomorrow? 795 01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:53,680 Same place! 796 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,159 And here, they will pull the verdict out of the same folder 797 01:14:57,239 --> 01:14:59,720 and ban the magazine 'NO' 798 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,680 September the 6th, Dima's new magazine to be closed. 799 01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:12,680 September the 15th, it's over. 800 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,039 The Supreme Court rules 801 01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,640 that every Novaya website inside Russia should be shut. 802 01:15:25,039 --> 01:15:28,159 What should I say? Can I tell you what the verdict was? 803 01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:29,399 Didn't you know? 804 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,439 The representative of the Ministry of Justice said, 805 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,600 "This is a precautionary measure". 806 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,760 I asked him,"Is it true that murder is a precautionary measure?" 807 01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,000 "Or is this actually a homicide?" 808 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,600 The Russian state is ruthlessly asserting its supremacy. 809 01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:07,039 Throughout Russian history the state has had no compunction 810 01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:09,840 about using brute force to buttress its rule, 811 01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,079 whether its repeated Tsarist massacres of the peasantry, 812 01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:16,760 the show trials of the 30s or the Gulags of Soviet Rule. 813 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,119 The price of autocracy is all too evident. 814 01:16:26,199 --> 01:16:28,840 In a terrible echo of Dima's Nobel speech, 815 01:16:29,279 --> 01:16:33,960 the vortex of war that he foresaw in Oslo, is coming all too true. 816 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:48,119 The October 8th explosion is a terrorist act. 817 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:53,359 It is simply impossible to leave a crime of this kind unanswered. 818 01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:58,119 This morning, a massive strike was launched 819 01:16:58,199 --> 01:17:02,720 with long-range, high-precision air, sea and land-based weapons 820 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:09,600 against energy, military and communications facilities in Ukraine. 821 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,039 With Russia an increasingly dangerous place for him, 822 01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:25,600 Dima's in Vienna for one last secret meeting. 823 01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,079 So why are you here? 824 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,439 Well, uh, it's a kind of conference 825 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:40,319 but we use this opportunity to meet, Nobel Prize winner Dmitry Muratov. 826 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,920 Well, it's a rare opportunity during this year and during this war. 827 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,039 Publicly, the two men can't be seen together anywhere, 828 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,000 it risks proving Dima a Foreign Agent. 829 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,039 Curtains closed, phones off, 830 01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:02,239 this is the only way that Dima can talk safely to Kirill. 831 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,479 They've got to keep the Riga operation going, somehow. 832 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:16,359 You know, it's safe to say the defeat of independent media 833 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,000 within Russia is complete. 834 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,239 The Judge, when he closed Novaya Gazeta, his biggest rebuke, 835 01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:28,479 the main accusation was: 'You sow doubt'. 836 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,600 What the fuck else are we supposed to do?! 837 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,640 That's our job, to ask questions. 838 01:18:39,319 --> 01:18:45,640 Maybe we're approaching the end of what we can do in Russia. 839 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,840 This has been the worst year of my life. 840 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,159 My country is at war. 841 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:17,680 I would like there to be peace in Russia and I calmly retire, 842 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:23,399 go to hockey and read books. 843 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,159 But this is only possible if Russia is at peace. 844 01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:45,800 A month later a gesture of defiance to the Kremlin. 845 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,479 At an award ceremony in Europe. 846 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,920 Dima and Kirill are seen together in public for the first time, 847 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,960 ending the pretence that Novaya Europe 848 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,159 has nothing to do with Novaya Moscow. 849 01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:08,720 Don't I look good in this suit? I've lost weight. 850 01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:23,079 Ladies and gentlemen, 851 01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:25,079 I ask you to applaud Dmitry Muratov, who is with us this evening. 852 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,439 - Welcome, Dmitry. - Thanks. 853 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,800 This is a new era of confrontation. between dictatorships, 854 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,199 authoritarian regimes and independent journalism. 855 01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:47,960 86% of journalists' murders are unsolved. 856 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,920 Can you tell me another profession like this? 857 01:20:52,199 --> 01:20:57,079 262 media outlets, independent of the state. 858 01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:58,880 And the Russian state have been closed in Russia. 859 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,960 More than 300 journalists and activists 860 01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:04,520 have been declared Foreign Agents, 861 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,000 that is, in Stalinist terms, enemies of the people. 862 01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:14,039 First journalists were killed, and now they're killing the entire media. 863 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:21,039 Thank you so much. Thanks Dmitry, Thank you all. 864 01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:31,319 Putin lives in the clouds. 865 01:21:33,039 --> 01:21:35,880 He's thinking about how to change the past. 866 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,640 He thinks that death is good 867 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,800 if it means dying for the Motherland. 868 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,720 And I think that living for the Motherland 869 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,880 is the most important thing for Russia. 870 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,720 We have a conflict between Life and Death. 871 01:22:02,359 --> 01:22:04,520 And that was the last time I saw him. 872 01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:10,920 He's in Moscow, eyes hurting, paper closed, most of his journalists in exile. 873 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,239 We've had to stop our filming 874 01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:17,039 it's just too dangerous for him and his remaining team. 875 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:26,960 But then I get a message from Moscow. Dima may be down, but he's not out. 876 01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:40,680 I'd like to drink to those who left and are saving our honour. 877 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,079 I'd like to drink to those who stayed behind 878 01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:48,600 who are doing exactly the same thing. 879 01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:55,920 We've got a future. I can't tell you when it is, 880 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,680 but I promise I will soon. 881 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:23,000 Journalists named as 'Foreign Agents' by the Russian Ministry of Justice