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[♪ creepy rhythmic pulsing]
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[♪ eerie music playing]
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[♪ horror sting]
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♪
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[speaker 1]
So, very young...
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[branches rustling]
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...I got obsessed with horror.
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[chair squeaking]
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[heavy breathing]
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I just think it would be fun
to survive a horror movie.
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♪
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[buzzing]
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- [light clicks]
- [indistinct murmuring]
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[slice]
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But you make it to the end...
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[screaming]
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♪
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...and the credits roll,
and everyone's fine.
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[screaming]
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That's just always been, like,
super appealing to me.
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I think I googled,
"Survive your own scary movie,"
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which is where
the beginning of this started.
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♪
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[speaker 2]
But, every horror movie...
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[♪ horror music playing]
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[screaming]
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- [static hissing]
- ...has a monster.
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[♪ music fades out]
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[screaming]
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Hey, everybody. It's Russ.
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[screaming]
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This is Immersive Horror,
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where you become the star of the show.
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[screaming] No!
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[speaker 2]
No, Russ. Please...
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[Russ McKamey]
[panting] Stay with me, honey.
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- [speaker 2 pleading]
- [Russ] Hold your breath.
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On the count of three, hold your breath.
One. Two.
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- [water pouring]
- [echoing hyperventilating]
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- [speaker 2] Please--
- [silence]
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[speaker 3]
An immersive horror experience is...
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[overlapping screaming]
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...you are basically putting yourself
inside of a horror movie.
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[indistinct screaming]
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My legs hurt, and my arms hurt,
a-and my hands are freezing.
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And I can't feel them 'cause there's still
shocks running through my hands.
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[interviewer]
You had a good time, though?
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Yes! I had a great time.
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- [people screaming]
- [♪ horror music playing]
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I don't know too many people
outside of my small little group
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that know about this stuff.
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[♪ creepy music playing]
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It is relatively underground,
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and right now, we have
the worst salesman for it
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in the history of bad salesmen.
That's Russ McKamey.
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♪
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I am the owner and creator
of McKamey Manor,
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the world's most extreme haunted house.
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- [♪ creepy music playing]
- [inaudible screaming]
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Russ has positioned himself to be
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- the great danger.
- [liquid splashes]
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You're in boot camp,
you are in North Korea,
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you are in Stalinist Russia,
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and you're gonna see
if you can make it out or not.
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- [person panting]
- [Russ] We're showmen.
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I am the P.T. Barnum of the haunt world.
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Look at her. Look at her.
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I spent hours trying to convince her
not to show up here.
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But she wouldn't listen to me.
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The show's never over with Russ.
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- [gasping]
- [splashing]
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Please stop, Russ. Please, please.
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Russ has crossed the Rubicon.
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There's no goin' back.
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I'm leaving McKamey Manor, thank God.
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Do. Not. Come. Here.
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[projector clicking, whirring]
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[♪ eerie music playing]
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[♪ eerie crescendo]
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[wind blowing]
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[birds chirping]
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[Russ] McKamey Manor
has a history of, um, cities and towns...
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- [♪ dramatic sting]
- ...not wanting us in their location.
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You know, we were kicked out of Illinois.
We were gonna move out there.
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Um, the city saw the movies
after we were there,
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basically, and freaked out.
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And they were, you know,
they just went crazy,
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you know, praying in front of the building
to keep us away,
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shooting out the windows, slashing tires.
I mean, they really did not want us there.
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[bees buzzing loudly]
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[♪ pulsating creepy music playing]
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[jet engine whining]
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[muffled thud]
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[♪ dramatic sting]
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- [people clapping]
- [♪ guitar playing]
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[emcee] Hey, everybody, welcome to the
Captain's pizza party! It's time to party!
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♪ I really, really, really, really,
really, really, really like girls ♪
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♪
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♪ Yeah, I really, really, really, really,
really, really, really like girls ♪
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[interviewer] You are from the military,
you were in the Navy.
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[Russ] Oh, absolutely. Yeah,
I've-I was in the military for 23 years.
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Even on a ship, I had a haunt going on.
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[♪ foreboding music building]
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[news anchor]
Russ McKamey created a house of horror
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that would rival anything
at a carnival or theme park.
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- Nine rooms, animated ghoulish figures,
- [cackling]
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you wonder what he spent on it.
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This year, about $30,000.
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- [cackling]
- [♪ scary music playing]
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It took me six months to do
what I did in there so far,
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so, and we just ran outta time.
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[news anchor] A Navy veteran
who now works with the VFW,
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he's just always loved Halloween, he says.
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[♪ foreboding music playing]
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[Kris] When we first met,
I started doing video work for him.
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Russ was my friend.
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I thought that me and Russ
were-were best friends.
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[♪ curious music playing]
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When the manor started originally,
it was an awesome thing.
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It was kids working it,
jumping out, scaring you.
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You know, there was a line
to get in on Halloween.
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- [guests chattering]
- It was a cool thing.
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♪
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That was when the news
on what we were doing got big.
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This is considered the scariest
haunted house in America.
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- [eerie cackling]
- [Kris] We were on Good Morning America,
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every news station,
everybody was doin' a story on us.
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[narrator]
McKamey Manor is completely interactive.
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- A two-hour visit to hell on Earth.
- [screams]
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And then every year,
he had to one up it.
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[screaming, shouting]
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Had to get a little more intense.
A little more intense to the point,
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though, finally,
they got rid of the kids.
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- [screaming]
- [Russ] Here they come! They're coming!
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[chainsaw roaring]
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McKamey Manor promises
an extreme experience
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that can last up to 10 hours,
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requires participants to be
medically cleared by a doctor
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and sign a 40-page waiver.
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This place has been
known to break the minds...
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It was invented by
this crazy gentleman...
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Russ McKamey videotapes
every single second...
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...inducing is a form of
psychological torture, but for fun.
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[voices overlapping]
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[news anchor] They say it amounts
to a torture chamber. Yikes.
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- [static hissing]
- [Kris] The phones would not stop.
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His phone would constantly ring,
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my phone would constantly ring,
with people trying to get in.
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It was insane
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how quickly and how big it got.
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[♪ unsettling music playing]
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And that's when it got violent.
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- [person wailing]
- [Russ] Don't fuckin' move.
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[panting]
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[muffled yelling]
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- Stop resisting!
- [slam]
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I probably wouldn't do the haunt
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- if I wasn't able to film it.
- [person yells]
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- That's nice.
- [person whimpers]
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[crying]
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Because I want the world
to see what I'm doing.
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[inaudible]
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[static, bars & tone]
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[breeze blowing]
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I am here because I want everyone
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to know the truth on Russ.
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[clicking]
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[inaudible]
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I don't feel like I'm,
like, mentally weak,
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but it messed me up.
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I'm over five years past it...
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[clicking]
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...and I'm just now coming to terms
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with how fucked up it was.
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[inaudible]
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[speaker 4] The dude lives in the dark.
The world needs to see
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what this man has done to people.
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[clicking]
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If someone asked me my story,
I would tell it to 'em.
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There's actually a lesson
to be learned from Russ.
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[♪ eerie crescendo]
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[TV static buzzing]
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[static hissing]
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[♪ eerie music playing]
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[W.P. West] I am a producer and creator
of immersive horror.
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♪
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I'm putting them through what
I would perceive as horrific.
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♪
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I'm putting them through a scenario
that I'm terrified of.
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I love traditional Halloween.
Like, I love old school haunted houses.
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An immersive horror experience
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is definitely evolved
out of a haunted house,
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- but...
- [♪ horror sting]
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...you can't compare
these things together.
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If you wanna put 'em in a hierarchy,
you know, you have boo haunts up here.
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[kids chattering]
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[♪ dramatic music playing]
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The normal boo haunted house,
they pop out of a hole in the window,
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- they scare you around a corner.
- [kids scream]
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[Brandon]
Those are just walkabout haunted houses
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that everybody can go to.
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[inaudible]
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[screams]
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[♪ creepy music playing]
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[screams]
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Followed by more extreme haunts...
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[people screaming]
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...but without necessarily
actors touching you.
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[screaming]
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As you kind of get into
the more immersive experience,
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- they can separate you from your friends.
- [screams]
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They can tie you up,
but it's nothing super extreme.
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[cuffs clicking]
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At the very bottom is...
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- [screaming]
- ...immersive, extreme type experiences,
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where it is full contact.
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There's no topic that's off the table.
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- [thud]
- [lights click]
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[W.P.]
They're longer, they're more intense,
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they're more narrative-driven,
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more task-driven, and personal.
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[♪ music building]
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[♪ dramatic sting]
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Some of these ultra personal experiences
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are made to make you face
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all the things that you don't wanna face.
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[panting]
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[haunter] Hands and knees,
Hands and knees!
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[♪ dramatic music playing]
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[Brandon] And they go about it
in extremely creative ways.
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[muffled]
Fuck!
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[snapping]
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[breathing heavily]
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They put you in situations that you
didn't realize you were even scared of.
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♪
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[incoherent shouting]
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People just enjoy the rush of it
'cause it is a thrill.
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♪
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The point is how much
can you take, right?
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How much physical and mental abuse
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can you put up with
before you just cut out?
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But, you can take away
consent at any time,
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and a good extreme haunt owner knows that.
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You constantly have to
ask the participant,
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"Do you still consent?
Do you still consent?"
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Even if it's seven hours,
they're going to make sure that I'm safe.
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[W.P.]
But it isn't just the torturing people.
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There is subtext to the show.
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There's subtext to the things
that I'm talking about.
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[♪ horror music playing]
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But, that isn't always the case.
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There's one person
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basically running a torture chamber.
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♪
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[panting]
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[Russ] [echoing] You made a big mistake.
Come on.
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Russ was, like, a celebrity. You know,
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every YouTube video at the time,
every Facebook link
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was Russ' face, mentioning this haunt.
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[laughs] We're here waiting for you.
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Russ McKamey's a divisive figure.
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[Russ]
Just get him in here! Get him in here!
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He uses his divisiveness
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to get your attention,
to grow in attention.
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[Russ]
You understand what I'm telling you?
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[indistinct shouting]
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[Russ] Yes what? Tell me what
I just told you, Christina.
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He started to put little bits
of information out there
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to make himself more infamous, I guess.
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[Russ]
You look scared Steve.
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- I'm terrified, sir.
- [Russ] Yeah, you need to be.
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[Brandon] It billed itself as the most
extreme haunted house in the world.
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They do all kinds of crazy stuff to you.
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I don't like you here.
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I am gonna make sure you have
the worst day of your entire life.
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They drugged you,
that they pulled your teeth,
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that if you threw up,
they make you eat your throw-up.
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And I was like, "How is this possible?
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But, man, this is fascinating."
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[muffled]
[screams] Let me out!
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Let me out! Let me out!
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[♪ dramatic crescendo]
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[Russ] We only do one
or two shows a week.
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- The list is long.
- [muffled screaming]
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[Brandon] One of those things
that Russ liked to say was
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he had this 27,000 person waitlist.
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- [haunter 1] You won the lottery.
- [haunter 2] Out of 20,000.
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- [Russ] 27,000.
- [haunter 2] 27,000!
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He's so big with this huge waitlist.
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[Russ]
I'm offering you 20 grand,
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and you know we're probably
not gonna kill ya, so...
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There was a $20,000 money prize.
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Oh yeah, well, the 20 grand,
that's a big part of it.
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Well, here I am.
Today's the day for my McKamey Manor tour.
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[Brandon] Some people see that 20 grand,
and they're enticed by that money.
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♪
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[gasps] Everyone on the internet
told me I could do it,
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they wanted me to, and I didn't listen.
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Do not come here.
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[sobs]
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♪
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[Russ] Price of admission
for this eight-hour-plus adventure?
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Four cans of dog food
or a bag of dog food.
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[Gabi]
He's not making money.
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I think most of the money that went into
the haunt was from his previous wife.
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But I think it is just to keep himself,
keep himself clean.
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♪
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Haunted houses, like,
this is not a money thing.
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You gotta do this for the art,
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- or 'cause you're a sociopath.
- [Russ inaudible]
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You wanna run a torture chamber.
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[Russ] We're known for no quitting
and no safe-wording.
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[person panting]
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I make it simple 'cause I'm a simple guy,
and I can't have too many rules,
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otherwise I'll get confused.
So, either you actually complete the tour,
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- which is not going to happen...
- [person panting]
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...or you mentally or physically
are at such a breaking point
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that it's now not safe
for you to continue,
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and I need to take you out.
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[♪ scary music playing]
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Russ doesn't want you to quit
until you are a pile of bones and flesh.
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And then, you're not probably done either.
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[static hissing]
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[♪ dramatic crescendo]
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[insects chirping]
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[Brandon] All that bad stuff,
it's selling point.
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It's not a reason not to go.
It's a reason to go.
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How bad can it be?
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[♪ tense music playing]
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That's my number one rule
before I go to any extreme haunt.
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If a felony's not gonna be taking place,
I don't wanna go.
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I love the adrenaline.
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[gunshot]
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There was no second thought,
there was no nothing. I had to do it.
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I had just moved to Los Angeles.
I was, like, trying to be an actress.
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I had a group of friends
that were creative,
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so we would just do fun little
short films that were scary.
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[screaming]
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And I wanted something more extreme.
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00:17:22,586 --> 00:17:25,589
And it was like
a full send point in my life,
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where I just didn't think about anything.
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I was like, "Okay, like,
you only live once.
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Like, why not just try to, like,
get into this haunted house?"
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♪
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[Melissa]
My day-to-day activities,
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my normal routine gets dull,
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and I wanted to branch out.
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And I'm not gonna lie.
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I honestly thought that
this was gonna help
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get me a little bit of fame.
And I wanted a video of me up on YouTube.
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♪
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And the more people that
I talked to about this that said,
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"No, don't do it, don't do it,
don't do it,"
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the more it motivated me.
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00:18:08,798 --> 00:18:12,052
My first conversations with Russ
involved going to his website,
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finding out what his email address was,
and I just sent him an email.
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And I contacted the admins
about doing a tour.
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"I wanna be an actress. I love horror.
Um, I'm trying to start a YouTube channel.
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Like, I would love to do this haunt."
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Not even two days later,
I actually got the email back from him.
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[♪ dramatic music playing]
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"Hey, Gabi, are you available tomorrow?
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I have, like, a spot opening up.
Someone bailed."
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We kind of bonded because
we were both in the service.
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He says, "This is your only opportunity
to get in. I got 20,000 people waiting,
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I'm bumping you
to the front of the line."
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00:18:45,585 --> 00:18:48,129
People get so obsessed,
and Russ is feeding their ears,
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00:18:48,129 --> 00:18:51,091
and they're like,
"This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,
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because I'll never get this chance again."
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Then, I had to do this little video
that Russ asked me to do,
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live on this private Facebook group.
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I had a friend hanging me
by my ankles upside down,
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and I actually ate night crawlers
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mixed with toothpaste and mustard.
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[friend] [on video] She's done.
She's ate all the worms.
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♪
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And it was horrible. Absolutely horrible.
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But I felt like I needed to be
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over the top in my creativity,
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because he was a big deal,
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and I wanted to stand out from the rest.
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He announces, you know, I can do a tour.
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I said yes.
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And I was over the moon excited.
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I was like, I guess, for some reason,
he liked my email.
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And he was very kind at that time.
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He made me feel like I was important
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and that I was already this huge celebrity
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and I had a fan base.
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You know, I'm gonna rock this.
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[♪ tense music playing]
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[wind chimes jingling]
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00:20:07,083 --> 00:20:08,793
[jingling stops]
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00:20:11,922 --> 00:20:14,758
I'm super scared.
I don't know who my partner is.
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00:20:14,758 --> 00:20:17,636
Um, I'm waiting until it gets
a little closer to the time,
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00:20:17,636 --> 00:20:19,888
then I'm gonna go sit
in the spot and wait.
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He said, "Find parking near the park.
There are bleachers. Sit at the bleachers,
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face forward.
Don't turn around or anything."
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00:20:26,895 --> 00:20:30,732
And then, I went and met Russ at the park
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for my waiver signing.
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00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,362
I was nervous. I was shaking.
My hands were trembling,
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and I was trying to fake that I was fine.
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00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:45,080
[Brandon]
Sure.
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That was the infamous waiver.
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00:20:47,582 --> 00:20:51,461
That was the waiver that
you're basically signing your life away.
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00:20:51,461 --> 00:20:55,423
We're not responsible if you die.
Like, you're agreeing to sign up for this.
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00:20:57,634 --> 00:20:58,635
No.
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00:21:00,345 --> 00:21:02,806
- Yes, yes.
- Take this. Don't get it wet.
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00:21:02,806 --> 00:21:05,475
Why are you doing this?
That's my question. Why would you do this
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after everything that's happening,
why would you sign this waiver?
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♪
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"Participant fully understands and agrees
that once participant enters MM,
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there is no quitting unless
serious psychological injury is present."
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Your hair may be chopped off.
Dentistry may be done.
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00:21:23,285 --> 00:21:24,869
You may have a tooth extracted.
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00:21:24,869 --> 00:21:28,039
"Head, neck, back injuries,
death, stroke,
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00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:30,333
traumatic brain injury, brain aneurysm."
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00:21:30,333 --> 00:21:32,669
I wasn't allowed to, like,
look at the person
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who gave us the waiver.
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00:21:33,795 --> 00:21:35,463
We had very weird instructions.
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"Retinal hemorrhage, subdural hematoma,
loss of consciousness, whiplash,
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"harmful heart reactions,
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00:21:42,053 --> 00:21:45,265
"nausea, headache, dizziness, lacerations,
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broken or sprained bones."
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[Melissa]
None of this had gotten to me.
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00:21:51,521 --> 00:21:55,400
I had too much excitement
going through my veins at the time.
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00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,445
If it would've said a man's
gonna come out of the woods
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and murder you during this event,
I-I would've signed it.
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00:22:04,534 --> 00:22:07,537
[♪ tense music playing]
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00:22:08,246 --> 00:22:09,497
[rustling papers]
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[Brandon] I get that feeling,
that adrenaline is just building,
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00:22:19,966 --> 00:22:23,470
which is reminiscent right before
I left the wire when I was in Iraq.
433
00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:26,806
This was going outside of
the safety of your FOB.
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00:22:28,016 --> 00:22:29,935
The FOB,
it's a forward operation base.
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00:22:30,644 --> 00:22:32,437
That's where we lived.
436
00:22:32,437 --> 00:22:35,899
There's a clear delineation
of safety there. You know, safe,
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not safe.
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As soon as you go outside the gate...
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[♪ music building]
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- ...adrenaline's as high as you can go.
- [explosion blasts]
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00:22:46,076 --> 00:22:49,329
- [soldier] Yeah! Woo!
- [soldiers cheer]
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00:22:49,329 --> 00:22:51,665
- [explosion]
- Yeah!
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00:22:51,665 --> 00:22:54,334
[distant excited shouting]
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00:22:54,334 --> 00:22:56,461
[♪ dramatic music playing]
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[Brandon]
We lost a lot of people over there.
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00:22:58,755 --> 00:23:00,882
People were dying every single day.
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00:23:02,676 --> 00:23:06,179
I did 21 years.
I did three combat tours in Iraq,
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which spanned over 40 months.
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At the start of the deployment,
I had hope.
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00:23:14,271 --> 00:23:18,066
Very shortly, I realized
you abandon your hope.
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00:23:18,984 --> 00:23:22,362
You realize that death
can come at any moment.
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♪
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[speaker 5]
Military experience is extreme.
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Terror haunt experience is extreme.
Anything that we do that is extreme,
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00:23:32,038 --> 00:23:35,542
adrenaline, when it's coursing through us,
I mean, it makes us feel powerful.
456
00:23:35,542 --> 00:23:38,336
A lot of times when people
have had combat experiences,
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you cannot get that feeling anywhere else.
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- So, it almost gets kind of locked in.
- Mm.
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I'm Dr. Lindsay Bira,
clinical health psychologist
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and PTSD and trauma specialist.
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When somebody has had a trauma
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and their nervous system
is a little bit hijacked,
463
00:23:54,436 --> 00:23:56,146
like we see in PTSD,
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00:23:56,146 --> 00:24:00,442
then it drives them to seek
external sensation to try to regulate.
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00:24:02,444 --> 00:24:06,531
And for anybody with
anxiety, depression, PTSD,
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00:24:06,531 --> 00:24:09,367
somebody experiencing
emotional abnormalities,
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00:24:09,367 --> 00:24:13,163
they are more likely to
seek external stimulation.
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00:24:13,163 --> 00:24:15,832
[birds cawing]
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00:24:15,832 --> 00:24:18,585
I'm worried about these
types of experiences
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00:24:18,585 --> 00:24:20,754
because there's no real structure.
471
00:24:20,754 --> 00:24:23,298
There's no limits.
The limits keep getting pushed.
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00:24:23,298 --> 00:24:24,966
[screaming]
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00:24:24,966 --> 00:24:28,386
But, the most important thing
is to be very careful
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who is leading an extreme experience.
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00:24:33,183 --> 00:24:36,645
There can easily be abuse of power,
476
00:24:36,645 --> 00:24:39,856
and we don't know how
far to trust somebody.
477
00:24:39,856 --> 00:24:42,817
[♪ tense music playing]
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[Melissa]
He stuck me in his truck.
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00:24:47,530 --> 00:24:50,492
Hey, everybody. Come on in.
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I was blindfolded,
I couldn't see anything,
481
00:24:53,745 --> 00:24:57,791
and off we went to the manor
to begin the tour.
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00:25:01,169 --> 00:25:02,337
[breeze blowing]
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- [Brandon] He puts me into his truck.
- [door shuts]
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00:25:05,215 --> 00:25:07,717
He puts earphones on me,
485
00:25:07,717 --> 00:25:11,638
and then I remember
the sounds of babies crying,
486
00:25:11,638 --> 00:25:14,099
- and it's very, very loud.
- [babies cry]
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00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:18,770
I'm like, "Okay, I've just lost
my sense of hearing."
488
00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:22,232
- And then, he starts duct taping my head.
- [tape ripping]
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00:25:22,232 --> 00:25:25,151
He covers my entire head with duct tape,
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00:25:25,151 --> 00:25:26,486
that I bought, mind you.
491
00:25:26,486 --> 00:25:29,990
Once they kidnapped us and put us
in the van, that's when I, like,
492
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:31,658
I don't even think I felt anxious.
493
00:25:31,658 --> 00:25:33,994
I think I was in, like,
fight or flight mode,
494
00:25:33,994 --> 00:25:36,538
and I had to fight 'cause there was
nowhere that I could go.
495
00:25:36,538 --> 00:25:38,498
So I was just very focused.
496
00:25:38,498 --> 00:25:40,083
[♪ intense music playing]
497
00:25:40,083 --> 00:25:42,043
[Brandon]
I don't know what to expect.
498
00:25:42,043 --> 00:25:45,213
I knew this was go time, right?
499
00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:48,800
I'm getting what I've been
wanting to do for years.
500
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,927
It's time!
Then, the door swings open.
501
00:25:50,927 --> 00:25:52,429
Come over here.
502
00:25:52,429 --> 00:25:54,681
I was so focused
because he was filming me.
503
00:25:54,681 --> 00:25:57,434
I had camera fright.
504
00:25:57,434 --> 00:26:00,604
This video's live, and so
it was very, very scary.
505
00:26:00,604 --> 00:26:03,356
[Russ] Fans, what color would
you like her base to be?
506
00:26:03,356 --> 00:26:05,817
You got purple, red, pink, yellow.
507
00:26:05,817 --> 00:26:07,819
[Melissa]
He hyped me up, did lives,
508
00:26:07,819 --> 00:26:09,738
and he's reading off the comments.
509
00:26:09,738 --> 00:26:12,407
[Russ]
She's a sport. Guys, she's a sport.
510
00:26:12,407 --> 00:26:16,286
[Kris] You're gonna be the best one,
you're gonna put on the best show ever.
511
00:26:16,286 --> 00:26:20,165
Hypes it up all the time. Really gets
you going, gets the fans going.
512
00:26:20,165 --> 00:26:24,085
And then, that-that starts to get
into, you know, your ego.
513
00:26:24,085 --> 00:26:25,462
You're like, "Oh, my God,
514
00:26:25,462 --> 00:26:28,548
"I got thousands of people watching me.
I was a nobody,
515
00:26:28,548 --> 00:26:31,301
I-- and now I got people rooting me on?"
516
00:26:31,301 --> 00:26:33,845
And you don't wanna let 'em down.
517
00:26:33,845 --> 00:26:36,139
♪
518
00:26:36,139 --> 00:26:37,766
They pushed us out of the van.
519
00:26:37,766 --> 00:26:40,060
And I think we had to crawl
through, like, chicken wire.
520
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:41,978
They had, like, some maze
through a garage.
521
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:47,901
When we got to the other side,
that's when we met Russ,
522
00:26:47,901 --> 00:26:50,820
and he looked so happy, so excited.
523
00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:53,573
He had a big old flashlight
with a camera on his head.
524
00:26:53,573 --> 00:26:55,116
[panting]
525
00:26:55,116 --> 00:26:57,744
In the moment,
just the way he's, like, talking about it
526
00:26:57,744 --> 00:27:01,248
and the tone of his voice as he's
talking about it as it's happening.
527
00:27:01,248 --> 00:27:04,793
[Russ] [on TV] Are you prepared?
Good. This is your one chance.
528
00:27:04,793 --> 00:27:08,088
I'm gonna give you an out.
If you want out, you can get out now.
529
00:27:08,088 --> 00:27:11,007
- [haunter] Verbalize.
- No, I wanna stay in.
530
00:27:11,007 --> 00:27:13,927
[Russ] Okay, that's what I like.
Okay, cover her eyes.
531
00:27:13,927 --> 00:27:16,846
[inaudible]
532
00:27:23,895 --> 00:27:26,898
[♪ creepy music playing]
533
00:27:28,441 --> 00:27:30,485
It was definitely an endurance test.
534
00:27:30,485 --> 00:27:32,571
- [splashing]
- [groaning]
535
00:27:40,203 --> 00:27:43,415
[Russ] Wall climb! Batman time!
Batman time!
536
00:27:44,457 --> 00:27:47,836
There is no EMTs. There are no medics.
537
00:27:47,836 --> 00:27:49,629
What happens if you're in a stunt,
538
00:27:49,629 --> 00:27:53,174
and somethin' happens to him,
and he's hurt? You could be tied up.
539
00:27:53,174 --> 00:27:56,720
Y-You're stuck, nobody's gonna find you.
540
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,014
- [haunter] Oh! No, you go in there!
- [Gabi screams]
541
00:27:59,014 --> 00:28:01,099
- [rustling]
- [haunter] Sit!
542
00:28:02,601 --> 00:28:06,062
Next thing I know, he grabs my chest
and dunks my head under water.
543
00:28:06,980 --> 00:28:08,440
And he holds my chest there.
544
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,025
♪
545
00:28:11,776 --> 00:28:13,778
I'm thinking, "If I just hold my breath
546
00:28:13,778 --> 00:28:15,822
"and don't think, stop moving,
547
00:28:15,822 --> 00:28:18,283
he'll eventually pull me back up",
which he does.
548
00:28:18,283 --> 00:28:20,368
And then I start gasping for air again.
549
00:28:20,368 --> 00:28:22,704
And then he does it
five or six more times.
550
00:28:22,704 --> 00:28:24,289
[dripping]
551
00:28:26,625 --> 00:28:28,460
[Gabi]
What if this isn't fake?
552
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:30,670
What if I'm really trapped
in this-this freezer now?
553
00:28:30,670 --> 00:28:34,090
Like, and I'm at this guy's house,
I don't know where I'm at location-wise.
554
00:28:34,090 --> 00:28:37,844
- [Gabi] [screams] Let me out!
- [haunter] [laughs] Louder!
555
00:28:37,844 --> 00:28:41,389
So, that just all happened in my mind,
and I just had a panic attack.
556
00:28:41,389 --> 00:28:43,725
- Let me out!
- [haunter] You want out?
557
00:28:43,725 --> 00:28:47,229
- Oh, you crying? I think she was crying!
- [Gabi sniffling]
558
00:28:47,229 --> 00:28:49,814
Oh, beautiful tears, yes!
559
00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:53,693
- Oh, look at this. Look at the camera.
- [sniffles]
560
00:28:53,693 --> 00:28:55,278
Look at camera!
561
00:28:56,655 --> 00:28:57,864
[crying] I wanna get out.
562
00:28:58,823 --> 00:29:01,910
[Russ] This is just the beginning.
You understand that, right?
563
00:29:01,910 --> 00:29:04,579
There's so many dark places
you're gonna go tonight.
564
00:29:04,579 --> 00:29:07,666
♪
565
00:29:09,167 --> 00:29:12,128
[Gabi] There's a certain point
where they put us in straitjackets
566
00:29:12,128 --> 00:29:14,756
with chains over our neck,
and I was like, "Oh gosh,
567
00:29:14,756 --> 00:29:16,466
this is uncomfortable and it's heavy."
568
00:29:19,886 --> 00:29:22,847
And then that's when the
water boarding proceeded to happen.
569
00:29:22,847 --> 00:29:24,975
[Russ]
Put your head in there.
570
00:29:24,975 --> 00:29:27,060
[water splashing]
571
00:29:28,895 --> 00:29:30,021
[coughing]
572
00:29:31,273 --> 00:29:32,315
[choking]
573
00:29:32,315 --> 00:29:35,777
[inaudible]
574
00:29:35,777 --> 00:29:39,656
[Gabi] I was like, "Oh, this is what
it means to be waterboarded.
575
00:29:39,656 --> 00:29:42,158
I feel like I'm drowning."
576
00:29:42,158 --> 00:29:43,410
[coughing]
577
00:29:43,410 --> 00:29:46,705
[Russ] So, you're gonna have to be
looking for the big baby bottle.
578
00:29:46,913 --> 00:29:49,124
- [splashing]
- Yeah, go.
579
00:29:49,124 --> 00:29:51,543
- [Melissa] Ew... Oh...
- [Russ] Get on your belly.
580
00:29:51,543 --> 00:29:54,004
- Get on your belly!
- [splashing]
581
00:29:54,004 --> 00:29:56,256
I'm terrified of spiders.
Like, to the point
582
00:29:56,256 --> 00:29:59,801
where if I even see one across the room,
I get, like, a rash, and I just get itchy
583
00:29:59,801 --> 00:30:02,345
'cause I just cannot stand them.
And he knew that.
584
00:30:02,345 --> 00:30:04,890
He asked me going in,
like, what my biggest fear was.
585
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:07,976
♪
586
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:12,731
- [Gabi whimpers]
- [Russ] [on TV] Shh. Don't make any noise.
587
00:30:12,731 --> 00:30:14,149
Shh...
588
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:15,775
Don't make any quick motion.
589
00:30:15,775 --> 00:30:17,652
[Gabi] [on TV]
[sobs] Please, no.
590
00:30:17,652 --> 00:30:20,113
They were telling me that
the tarantula was mad,
591
00:30:20,113 --> 00:30:21,573
and I didn't know that, like,
592
00:30:21,573 --> 00:30:23,867
you're not supposed
to handle tarantulas like that.
593
00:30:23,867 --> 00:30:26,161
So he could-- the tarantula,
like, could've gotten mad
594
00:30:26,161 --> 00:30:28,622
and like, at me, and bit me, I guess.
595
00:30:28,622 --> 00:30:31,708
So they were like, "Don't cry.
Quit freaking out, don't cry."
596
00:30:31,708 --> 00:30:33,835
And I was like,
"You have a spider on my face.
597
00:30:33,835 --> 00:30:35,962
How am I not supposed to cry?"
And then he's like,
598
00:30:35,962 --> 00:30:37,255
"We're gonna do it anyway.
599
00:30:37,255 --> 00:30:39,090
So like, if you cry,
you're gonna get hurt."
600
00:30:39,090 --> 00:30:42,052
So like, in the video, I just froze.
I think I just like, stopped breathing,
601
00:30:42,052 --> 00:30:44,429
and I just, like, had an
out of body experience.
602
00:30:44,429 --> 00:30:46,848
[crying] Please don't. Please.
603
00:30:46,848 --> 00:30:50,101
[Russ] Look at her.
Look at her, Mary, look at her.
604
00:30:50,101 --> 00:30:52,479
- [Haunter Mary] Isn't she pretty?
- Please! [gasping]
605
00:30:52,479 --> 00:30:55,232
- [Russ] Look at her.
- Please don't.
606
00:30:55,232 --> 00:30:57,359
- Please.
- [Haunter Mary] Oops. Oops.
607
00:30:57,359 --> 00:30:59,694
Please don't. Please don't. Please don't!
608
00:30:59,694 --> 00:31:01,863
- [Russ] Shh...
- [Gabi whimpering]
609
00:31:01,863 --> 00:31:04,532
It was, like, that moment that
it kind of shifted for me.
610
00:31:04,532 --> 00:31:08,370
[inaudible]
611
00:31:08,370 --> 00:31:11,081
[♪ tense music playing]
612
00:31:11,081 --> 00:31:12,499
[screams]
613
00:31:12,499 --> 00:31:15,043
I think I'd went seven, eight hours.
614
00:31:15,043 --> 00:31:16,878
- [splashing]
- [Melissa groaning]
615
00:31:16,878 --> 00:31:18,755
[Russ]
Find that baby bottle.
616
00:31:18,755 --> 00:31:19,881
[clicking]
617
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:24,344
Alright, guys.
She's doing really good tonight.
618
00:31:24,344 --> 00:31:27,556
[Melissa] But, in that moment,
I'm like the celebrity.
619
00:31:27,556 --> 00:31:29,057
I have this huge fan base.
620
00:31:29,057 --> 00:31:31,560
That was big for me. That was huge.
621
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,646
She's a trooper,
and she wants to continue on, so,
622
00:31:34,646 --> 00:31:37,357
so we're just,
we're doing stuff right now.
623
00:31:37,357 --> 00:31:39,568
[Haunter Mary]
You're a rock star.
624
00:31:39,568 --> 00:31:42,070
He closed this cage gate on top of me,
625
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:44,072
and this water was freezing cold.
626
00:31:44,072 --> 00:31:46,241
And he said,
627
00:31:46,241 --> 00:31:49,327
"Okay, I'm gonna start
raising the water level."
628
00:31:49,327 --> 00:31:52,414
When I could start feeling the water rise
and when I remember
629
00:31:52,414 --> 00:31:54,749
I tried to put resistance on the cage,
630
00:31:54,749 --> 00:31:56,877
and I-- it wouldn't budge,
631
00:31:58,044 --> 00:32:00,297
that's when I just, I was like,
I'm done. I'm done.
632
00:32:03,842 --> 00:32:05,802
- Exactly, exactly.
- I ended up quitting.
633
00:32:05,802 --> 00:32:09,222
- [Russ] You got punished here.
- [Haunter Mary] This is her punishment
634
00:32:09,222 --> 00:32:11,516
for not findin' the baby bottle.
635
00:32:11,516 --> 00:32:14,144
- [Russ] McKamey Manor just what?
- McKamey Manor just kicked my ass.
636
00:32:14,144 --> 00:32:15,645
- [Russ] And you quit.
- And I quit.
637
00:32:15,645 --> 00:32:19,190
- [Brandon] I didn't wanna die.
- [Gabi] [crying] I'm done.
638
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:21,109
- [Russ] Tell me you quit.
- [Gabi] I quit.
639
00:32:21,109 --> 00:32:23,486
I don't wanna be
locked in the dark anymore.
640
00:32:23,486 --> 00:32:25,947
Russ is there the entire time,
recording it.
641
00:32:25,947 --> 00:32:29,451
And the joy and, like, pleasure
642
00:32:29,451 --> 00:32:33,121
that he was getting out of it
was extremely weird.
643
00:32:33,121 --> 00:32:35,290
You could see he was unfazed.
644
00:32:35,290 --> 00:32:39,669
I'm here, bawling, I'm bleeding,
and you're just living your best life,
645
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:42,505
trying to figure out how much
further you could take it.
646
00:32:42,505 --> 00:32:44,799
And I'm just-- that's concerning to me.
647
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,969
But in the moment, I was like,
"Oh, this is Russ, this is the guy.
648
00:32:47,969 --> 00:32:50,430
He has the camera on his head.
Let's do the tour."
649
00:32:50,972 --> 00:32:53,183
[Brandon]
Some of these other extreme haunts,
650
00:32:53,183 --> 00:32:57,020
the trust that I've given them
has not been broken.
651
00:32:57,020 --> 00:33:00,982
Even though I'm telling them to push,
even though I'm telling them
652
00:33:00,982 --> 00:33:04,819
to do worse and worse stuff to me,
I think, deep down,
653
00:33:05,528 --> 00:33:07,614
I know that they're not gonna kill me.
654
00:33:07,614 --> 00:33:10,283
You know,
I know they're not gonna cause
655
00:33:10,283 --> 00:33:13,453
permanent physical danger,
656
00:33:13,453 --> 00:33:17,415
but trust was broken with Russ McKamey.
657
00:33:17,415 --> 00:33:20,502
[♪ tense music playing]
658
00:33:20,502 --> 00:33:21,753
[inaudible]
659
00:33:22,295 --> 00:33:24,589
[Gabi] My experience was fucked up,
but I also am aware
660
00:33:24,589 --> 00:33:27,133
that every experience after mine
661
00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:30,679
was a thousand times worse
because I think he did see
662
00:33:30,679 --> 00:33:33,974
that he kind of was able
to keep us for seven hours,
663
00:33:33,974 --> 00:33:37,519
and kind of do whatever he wanted,
and, like, we didn't do anything about it.
664
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,522
We just, like, left and said,
"Thanks so much, have a great time."
665
00:33:40,522 --> 00:33:43,525
So I think for him that was validation.
Like, "Oh, I could do more."
666
00:33:43,525 --> 00:33:45,110
[♪ dramatic music playing]
667
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:49,072
[Russ] Hey, everybody, it's Russ. Coming
at you right here from McKamey Manor.
668
00:33:49,072 --> 00:33:53,618
[Brandon] Never come here.
Don't let-- Don't let anybody
669
00:33:53,618 --> 00:33:55,870
talk you into it or any of that
670
00:33:55,870 --> 00:33:58,665
because it's, um, it's brutal.
671
00:33:58,773 --> 00:34:00,251
[♪ dramatic sting]
672
00:34:00,251 --> 00:34:03,336
- [quiet street noise]
- [insects chirping]
673
00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:07,507
[Melissa]
The "why."
674
00:34:09,009 --> 00:34:11,011
[♪ unsettling music playing]
675
00:34:11,011 --> 00:34:14,097
[TV static]
676
00:34:15,849 --> 00:34:17,809
Everybody's always
gonna wonder the why,
677
00:34:17,809 --> 00:34:21,855
and the why is different for each
and every individual that goes through.
678
00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:30,071
My name is DJ Williams.
679
00:34:30,071 --> 00:34:33,158
I'm a full professor at
Idaho State University
680
00:34:33,158 --> 00:34:34,826
in Pocatello, Idaho.
681
00:34:34,826 --> 00:34:38,705
I was given the title Dr. Deviant
from a dominatrix who I mentored under.
682
00:34:40,206 --> 00:34:42,417
And my research covers sort of the range
683
00:34:42,417 --> 00:34:44,628
and spectrum of deviance and leisure,
684
00:34:44,628 --> 00:34:47,088
and that can include
a lot of different things.
685
00:34:47,088 --> 00:34:50,008
That can include criminal activity
as leisure.
686
00:34:50,008 --> 00:34:54,054
It can include BDSM
and sexuality as leisure.
687
00:34:54,930 --> 00:34:58,558
The extreme horror,
extreme experiences phenomenon,
688
00:34:58,558 --> 00:35:01,436
definitely fits within the area
of deviant leisure.
689
00:35:02,729 --> 00:35:04,648
And it's hard for people to understand
690
00:35:04,648 --> 00:35:08,693
someone who is clearly an intense
sensation seeker or risk taker
691
00:35:08,693 --> 00:35:11,529
that those challenges are actual needs.
692
00:35:11,529 --> 00:35:14,950
And so, we need to have a space,
an, an acceptance for people
693
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:17,077
who are craving those kinds of needs.
694
00:35:17,077 --> 00:35:20,205
So, I think it's easy for, sometimes
people to kinda sit back and say,
695
00:35:20,205 --> 00:35:24,125
"Why would somebody do this?
There must be something wrong with them."
696
00:35:24,125 --> 00:35:26,670
And that's not the case, necessarily.
697
00:35:27,045 --> 00:35:29,798
♪
698
00:35:29,798 --> 00:35:32,634
[Gabi]
I grew up in private Christian school.
699
00:35:32,634 --> 00:35:35,387
I grew up hearing if you lie,
you're gonna go to Hell.
700
00:35:35,387 --> 00:35:37,597
And it wasn't just, like,
you're gonna go to Hell.
701
00:35:37,597 --> 00:35:41,059
It's like, "Your skin is gonna burn off,
and your eyes are gonna melt."
702
00:35:41,059 --> 00:35:42,394
And I'm, like, 5.
703
00:35:43,603 --> 00:35:47,357
I am queer, so being Black-queer
in a space like that,
704
00:35:47,357 --> 00:35:49,651
was really hard to
navigate as, like, a young kid.
705
00:35:49,651 --> 00:35:52,445
It's, like, pro-conversion therapy,
"Let's get that out of you.
706
00:35:52,445 --> 00:35:54,906
This isn't natural.
You're living a life of sin."
707
00:35:54,906 --> 00:35:57,993
So just growing up hearing that,
I didn't even know that it was okay.
708
00:35:57,993 --> 00:35:59,953
I didn't even know what queer was.
709
00:35:59,953 --> 00:36:02,497
I just knew that, like,
I was really different.
710
00:36:02,497 --> 00:36:05,250
I just knew that it was bad and evil.
711
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:08,503
To this day, like, I have anxiety 24/7,
712
00:36:08,503 --> 00:36:10,714
so, like, even right now,
my heart's like... [exhales].
713
00:36:10,714 --> 00:36:13,592
It used to be so bad where
I couldn't go to the grocery store,
714
00:36:13,592 --> 00:36:15,093
I would just like sit in my car
715
00:36:15,093 --> 00:36:17,596
'cause just I felt
too overwhelmed with everything.
716
00:36:17,596 --> 00:36:21,016
So, when I watch a horror film,
I have that same feeling,
717
00:36:21,016 --> 00:36:24,352
but it's safely on my couch,
and it makes sense.
718
00:36:24,352 --> 00:36:25,437
♪
719
00:36:25,437 --> 00:36:28,523
It's like, oh, there's a guy
with a chainsaw on the TV,
720
00:36:28,523 --> 00:36:29,900
like, gonna hurt somebody.
721
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,027
There's a reason
to be anxious in this moment.
722
00:36:32,944 --> 00:36:34,738
Which is why I started looking into
723
00:36:34,738 --> 00:36:37,073
the whole immersive horror
experience thing.
724
00:36:37,073 --> 00:36:40,035
So, I was like,
"What if I live through something crazy"
725
00:36:40,035 --> 00:36:43,163
and then I know that I can
do anything going forward.
726
00:36:43,163 --> 00:36:44,623
It reminds me, "Hey,
727
00:36:44,623 --> 00:36:48,293
"I just went through
this series of events,
728
00:36:48,293 --> 00:36:49,586
and I survived."
729
00:36:49,586 --> 00:36:53,215
[insects chirping]
730
00:36:54,216 --> 00:36:56,843
As a young child,
731
00:36:57,636 --> 00:37:00,430
I dealt with an abusive mother.
732
00:37:00,430 --> 00:37:01,556
♪
733
00:37:01,556 --> 00:37:04,434
Being put into a foster home
at such a young age
734
00:37:04,434 --> 00:37:06,895
was very, very traumatic.
735
00:37:07,646 --> 00:37:11,441
It was scary having to go through
people and people and people,
736
00:37:11,441 --> 00:37:15,528
and tell the same story over
and over again of what happened.
737
00:37:15,528 --> 00:37:17,447
To be one day ripped apart
738
00:37:17,447 --> 00:37:20,116
from everyone you know and everything.
739
00:37:20,116 --> 00:37:23,119
To be told you're taken to a safer place,
740
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:28,041
and the place you're going to
is just full of unknown and uncertainty,
741
00:37:28,041 --> 00:37:31,127
and it just breaks a part of you inside.
742
00:37:32,379 --> 00:37:35,382
I feel like I do these things
to remind myself
743
00:37:35,382 --> 00:37:38,176
that I'm strong, and I'm a survivor,
744
00:37:38,176 --> 00:37:40,720
and I can get through a lot of shit.
745
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,098
♪
746
00:37:43,098 --> 00:37:45,100
[W.P.]
A lot of people go through
747
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,227
really traumatic situations,
748
00:37:47,227 --> 00:37:50,814
and they find something to fill this gap.
749
00:37:50,814 --> 00:37:54,859
And I would see the progress of making it
through something that's terrible
750
00:37:54,859 --> 00:37:57,654
and-and using it to the
advantage of yourself.
751
00:37:59,781 --> 00:38:01,032
[♪ dramatic crescendo]
752
00:38:02,450 --> 00:38:06,663
It sounds like there's a lot of,
kind of pushing, or here's an edge,
753
00:38:06,663 --> 00:38:08,915
but then, "Okay,
I can go beyond that edge.
754
00:38:08,915 --> 00:38:11,459
I just accomplished this.
I guess let's take it further."
755
00:38:11,459 --> 00:38:15,213
Like, I feel like I need--
Like, I need that type of punishment.
756
00:38:15,213 --> 00:38:16,506
Mm-hmm.
757
00:38:16,506 --> 00:38:18,592
Like it's something that--
758
00:38:19,551 --> 00:38:21,678
it's something that I feel like I deserve.
759
00:38:21,678 --> 00:38:23,597
[♪ soft music playing]
760
00:38:23,597 --> 00:38:26,683
When I got back,
I was a completely different person.
761
00:38:26,683 --> 00:38:29,436
Okay and that was after you came back
from the military, right?
762
00:38:29,436 --> 00:38:31,104
Yes, that was after my
763
00:38:31,104 --> 00:38:32,772
- third tour in Iraq.
- Okay.
764
00:38:32,772 --> 00:38:37,027
I didn't see here as home.
This wasn't home to me anymore.
765
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,822
I think I knew I had PTSD.
766
00:38:40,822 --> 00:38:43,408
I sure as hell didn't think
I had survivor's guilt,
767
00:38:43,408 --> 00:38:46,161
but one of the things I did is,
768
00:38:46,161 --> 00:38:48,580
I started giving away body parts.
769
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:50,081
I gave my kidney away.
770
00:38:50,081 --> 00:38:53,710
I was also signed up to give
a piece of my liver away.
771
00:38:53,710 --> 00:38:56,713
And I also signed up
for the bone marrow transplant list.
772
00:38:56,713 --> 00:38:58,548
[♪ tense music playing]
773
00:38:58,548 --> 00:39:00,759
I was gonna give away as much as I could.
774
00:39:02,093 --> 00:39:04,262
I didn't see any purpose anymore.
775
00:39:06,223 --> 00:39:08,600
There's parts of me that
are essentially broken, you know,
776
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,102
and, emotionally, mentally, physically,
what have you.
777
00:39:11,102 --> 00:39:14,356
[Dr. Lindsay Bira]
It's not a bad thing to push the limits
778
00:39:14,356 --> 00:39:17,108
or to, you know, have a very real
human experience
779
00:39:17,108 --> 00:39:19,361
or to explore the edges
of human experience.
780
00:39:19,361 --> 00:39:22,280
I think that's actually an awesome thing.
781
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,867
But, you are desensitizing yourself
to those natural cues,
782
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:28,954
where your brain and your body
is saying, "This is my limit."
783
00:39:30,247 --> 00:39:31,331
Yeah.
784
00:39:31,331 --> 00:39:34,209
[Dr. Bira] That's something
really good to think about.
785
00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:38,213
Well, I mean, I just look
at those ultra-marathon runners, right?
786
00:39:38,213 --> 00:39:42,217
They punish their body.
Their feet are torn to pieces, you know?
787
00:39:42,217 --> 00:39:45,720
It's all in the name of,
you know, self-improvement.
788
00:39:48,181 --> 00:39:50,600
[Dr. Deviant]
You have big wave surfers,
789
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,062
you have freestyle mountain climbers
who use no safety gear,
790
00:39:54,062 --> 00:39:56,147
deep ocean divers,
791
00:39:56,147 --> 00:39:58,525
and they're constantly pushing that edge.
792
00:39:58,525 --> 00:40:00,485
[Brandon]
Why is this any different?
793
00:40:00,485 --> 00:40:03,530
I could never run an ultra marathon.
I know I can't.
794
00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:05,699
But, I can, I can get tortured
for 12 hours.
795
00:40:05,699 --> 00:40:07,617
[Russ]
The fun has just begun.
796
00:40:07,617 --> 00:40:11,329
So far, what you've endured
is nothing compared to the last half.
797
00:40:11,329 --> 00:40:14,624
- [♪ dramatic music playing]
- [whimpering]
798
00:40:14,624 --> 00:40:18,211
[speaker 6]
Torture is the intentional infliction
799
00:40:18,211 --> 00:40:22,215
of serious or severe pain
and suffering
800
00:40:22,215 --> 00:40:24,426
- on a person...
- [dripping]
801
00:40:24,426 --> 00:40:26,595
...for the purpose of punishment
802
00:40:26,595 --> 00:40:29,139
or to force them to do or say something.
803
00:40:31,308 --> 00:40:32,934
My name is Alka Pradhan.
804
00:40:32,934 --> 00:40:36,104
I'm a human rights attorney
practicing at Guantanamo Bay
805
00:40:36,104 --> 00:40:38,398
and before the International
Criminal Court.
806
00:40:38,398 --> 00:40:41,776
And my expertise is in
working with torture victims.
807
00:40:42,736 --> 00:40:47,365
And in my work at Guantanamo Bay,
I'm employed by the Department of Defense.
808
00:40:47,365 --> 00:40:49,993
And so, nothing I say represents
809
00:40:49,993 --> 00:40:52,370
the opinion of the Department of Defense.
810
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:55,832
And nothing I say should be taken
to confirm or deny any information
811
00:40:55,832 --> 00:40:58,960
that the Department of Defense
considers to be classified.
812
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,006
Personally, I am really repulsed
813
00:41:03,006 --> 00:41:07,052
by the idea of anyone using torture
814
00:41:07,052 --> 00:41:10,347
or acts that simulate torture
815
00:41:10,347 --> 00:41:13,225
in a way that is entertaining.
816
00:41:13,225 --> 00:41:14,809
[lock clicking]
817
00:41:15,435 --> 00:41:18,396
Nothing about torture is entertaining.
818
00:41:18,396 --> 00:41:21,733
Undergoing torture doesn't
really strengthen you.
819
00:41:21,733 --> 00:41:23,318
If it doesn't kill people,
820
00:41:23,318 --> 00:41:26,279
it affects them for the entirety
of their lives.
821
00:41:27,322 --> 00:41:29,991
The first thing to keep in mind is that
822
00:41:30,909 --> 00:41:32,410
♪
823
00:41:32,410 --> 00:41:34,329
all torture has
psychological effects.
824
00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:38,333
Even if you consent
to some aspect of that,
825
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,752
the fear created in your mind,
826
00:41:41,878 --> 00:41:45,340
what psychologists often call
"uncontrollable stress,"
827
00:41:46,091 --> 00:41:48,385
can literally change your neural pathways.
828
00:41:48,385 --> 00:41:51,638
And it's something that is
almost impossible to remove.
829
00:41:51,638 --> 00:41:53,848
[♪ dramatic music playing]
830
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,894
[Russ] So, did-did you expect
all that after, you know?
831
00:41:57,894 --> 00:42:01,231
Well, I expected it to be rough,
but I didn't expect to actually cry.
832
00:42:01,231 --> 00:42:04,943
[♪ dramatic crescendo]
833
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,113
- [Russ] Yeah, you did cry.
- [Gabi] Yeah, like five times.
834
00:42:09,281 --> 00:42:11,283
[♪ soft ominous tone]
835
00:42:11,283 --> 00:42:14,828
[Gabi] Russ posted my video on YouTube,
and it went super viral.
836
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:19,791
[♪ dissonant chords playing]
837
00:42:20,792 --> 00:42:22,961
A few months after going through it,
838
00:42:22,961 --> 00:42:25,380
I, so bad, just wanted to be involved
839
00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:27,382
with, like, anything to do with horror.
840
00:42:27,382 --> 00:42:30,468
Whether it was, like, acting
or, like, writing or anything.
841
00:42:31,469 --> 00:42:33,138
And Russ saw that.
842
00:42:34,055 --> 00:42:37,684
And I ended up running his Facebook group,
I was running his YouTube channel,
843
00:42:37,684 --> 00:42:40,353
I was running his Twitter.
I was like his little assistant.
844
00:42:40,353 --> 00:42:43,106
Get people into the haunt, hype it up.
845
00:42:43,106 --> 00:42:45,317
If people were talking
negatively about it,
846
00:42:45,317 --> 00:42:47,319
I was supposed to, like, undercut them.
847
00:42:47,319 --> 00:42:50,238
Be like, "No, like, I've met Russ.
He's, like, such a great guy."
848
00:42:50,238 --> 00:42:53,450
So, I was just supposed to
be his, like, wingman.
849
00:42:54,701 --> 00:42:57,954
But then, I started to
get some weird feelings.
850
00:42:57,954 --> 00:42:59,789
Um,
851
00:42:59,789 --> 00:43:03,335
I'm just gonna keep this short.
It's actually hard to talk.
852
00:43:03,335 --> 00:43:07,380
As you can see,
my lips are severely swollen.
853
00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:09,674
He likes men that have
been in the military.
854
00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:13,511
I think Russ really got off
on, like, the power dynamic with the men.
855
00:43:13,511 --> 00:43:16,056
[muffled screaming]
856
00:43:16,056 --> 00:43:18,141
There are some tours where
857
00:43:18,141 --> 00:43:21,478
the way that they were
beat up was just too-- like, too far.
858
00:43:21,478 --> 00:43:24,105
Like, broken ribs, concussions,
859
00:43:24,105 --> 00:43:26,441
like, eyes so swollen that
they can't even open 'em.
860
00:43:26,441 --> 00:43:29,152
[♪ tense music playing]
861
00:43:29,152 --> 00:43:30,654
And I think for him, it's power.
862
00:43:30,654 --> 00:43:33,448
Like, "This guy was in the Marines?
Like, look at me kicking his ass."
863
00:43:38,078 --> 00:43:41,373
- And then, like, vulnerable women.
- No, Russ, that water freaks me out.
864
00:43:41,373 --> 00:43:43,625
- You know that! I hate--
- [water hose hissing]
865
00:43:43,625 --> 00:43:45,752
[crying] Please! Please, don't!
866
00:43:45,752 --> 00:43:48,672
Russ feels that if you go
through one of his experiences,
867
00:43:48,672 --> 00:43:52,092
especially if you're female,
you now have a special bond with Russ.
868
00:43:52,092 --> 00:43:55,595
He really only wanted, like, pretty girls.
869
00:43:55,595 --> 00:43:57,180
[rattling]
870
00:43:57,180 --> 00:43:59,599
No. No! No.
871
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,268
[Russ]
Honey, be quiet.
872
00:44:01,268 --> 00:44:03,603
[rattling]
873
00:44:03,603 --> 00:44:07,649
You knew when he had a new girlfriend
because it was nonstop shows.
874
00:44:07,649 --> 00:44:10,277
He would have them come to his house,
875
00:44:10,277 --> 00:44:12,445
and he would just make them
876
00:44:12,445 --> 00:44:14,948
continuously go through a tour
877
00:44:14,948 --> 00:44:16,741
every day that they were with him.
878
00:44:16,741 --> 00:44:19,452
♪
879
00:44:19,452 --> 00:44:22,455
- [whimpering, sobbing]
- [Kris] For some reasons, he feels like
880
00:44:22,455 --> 00:44:24,749
with these women he can go an extra step,
881
00:44:24,749 --> 00:44:28,336
and that safety harness just
gets removed a little more.
882
00:44:28,336 --> 00:44:31,798
[Susan] Things like laying in the grass
with a ski mask on my face,
883
00:44:31,798 --> 00:44:33,967
getting sprayed with water over and over,
884
00:44:33,967 --> 00:44:37,137
or submerging into cold water
over and over.
885
00:44:37,137 --> 00:44:38,930
And in one particular activity,
886
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:41,766
I confessed that I was
actually afraid of dying.
887
00:44:41,766 --> 00:44:44,895
And he laughed and said that if I died,
888
00:44:44,895 --> 00:44:46,521
at least I would be on camera.
889
00:44:46,521 --> 00:44:48,440
♪
890
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,650
[Kris]
These are really good-looking women.
891
00:44:50,650 --> 00:44:52,861
And you got this guy
who lives in a trailer
892
00:44:52,861 --> 00:44:54,946
that sprays you in the face with a hose.
893
00:44:54,946 --> 00:44:58,783
What is he doing to keep 'em to stay?
894
00:44:59,367 --> 00:45:01,328
- I don't know.
- [Russ] I like that.
895
00:45:01,328 --> 00:45:04,414
- [dog barking]
- [Russ] There she is!
896
00:45:04,414 --> 00:45:07,500
There she is! The pretty one right there.
897
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,753
[Brandon]
McKamey Manor was "Tinder" to him.
898
00:45:09,753 --> 00:45:11,171
Was his "Plenty of Fish."
899
00:45:11,171 --> 00:45:14,257
That's what he used it for.
That's the impression that I got.
900
00:45:14,257 --> 00:45:16,426
You can do this.
Put your head up, please.
901
00:45:17,886 --> 00:45:20,055
You got this, okay? You got it.
902
00:45:20,055 --> 00:45:24,059
He was my friend. Like, I don't want
to think that he would actually
903
00:45:24,059 --> 00:45:27,729
purposely manipulate
these women, but he does.
904
00:45:27,729 --> 00:45:30,315
Show 'em what you got in your mouth.
905
00:45:30,315 --> 00:45:32,984
- Ah, ah, ah! [giggle]
- That's right.
906
00:45:32,984 --> 00:45:35,862
- Come here, and you can wear that, too.
- Yep!
907
00:45:35,862 --> 00:45:38,031
He knows how to get into people's heads,
908
00:45:38,031 --> 00:45:42,118
he knows the right thing to say,
he can read a person really good.
909
00:45:42,535 --> 00:45:45,247
I've seen Russ talk to a person
910
00:45:45,247 --> 00:45:48,458
that hates everything about the haunt,
911
00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:50,710
and turn them into a friend by the end
912
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:52,212
and wanting to sign up.
913
00:45:52,212 --> 00:45:55,090
He-He is so good at what he does.
914
00:45:55,090 --> 00:45:58,009
Yeah, I'm that big crazy
haunted house guy! That's me!
915
00:45:58,009 --> 00:46:00,929
- [girlfriend laughs]
- Are you scared of me?
916
00:46:00,929 --> 00:46:02,597
I'm pretty scary, aren't I?
917
00:46:02,597 --> 00:46:05,892
- [♪ soft music playing]
- [TV static]
918
00:46:05,892 --> 00:46:08,562
[Kris] You know, he would try
to manipulate me, too.
919
00:46:09,771 --> 00:46:12,274
- [indistinct sound]
- [water splashing]
920
00:46:13,233 --> 00:46:15,026
When I went through,
921
00:46:16,027 --> 00:46:19,990
Russ had me sit back in, like, a trough.
922
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:22,284
- [clattering]
- [shivering]
923
00:46:22,284 --> 00:46:25,036
- [Russ] Yeah. You like that?
- [Kris] No.
924
00:46:26,121 --> 00:46:30,375
[Russ] We're gonna fill up this entire
little device right here.
925
00:46:30,375 --> 00:46:32,460
[water dripping]
926
00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:34,629
And we're gonna have a good time, Kris.
927
00:46:34,629 --> 00:46:36,298
- [Kris groans]
- Oh, yeah.
928
00:46:36,298 --> 00:46:40,802
When I started to realize that I was
having the dirt poured over my face...
929
00:46:40,802 --> 00:46:43,930
- No, no, no, no, no.
- [Russ sighs]
930
00:46:43,930 --> 00:46:45,724
- [Kris groans]
- How's that feel?
931
00:46:45,724 --> 00:46:46,808
[Kris]
No, no, no, no.
932
00:46:46,808 --> 00:46:49,227
...and then you're thinking,
"Russ is my friend."
933
00:46:49,227 --> 00:46:52,355
You know, "He's-He's just gonna make
it look good for the camera."
934
00:46:53,064 --> 00:46:54,566
But then, he didn't stop.
935
00:46:54,566 --> 00:46:56,985
- No, no, no, no, no... [continues]
- [Russ] Who's your friend?
936
00:46:56,985 --> 00:46:58,904
- Quiet, shut up. Shut up.
- [Kris stops]
937
00:46:58,904 --> 00:47:00,572
And I can't even tell you
938
00:47:00,572 --> 00:47:03,575
the amount of times in that video
that I said "Stop."
939
00:47:03,575 --> 00:47:05,911
- [Russ] We're gonna bury you completely.
- [digs]
940
00:47:05,911 --> 00:47:08,288
[Kris] Mm-mm. No,
I can't do it. Can't do it.
941
00:47:08,288 --> 00:47:10,665
- No, I can't do it.
- [Russ] You gotta be quiet.
942
00:47:10,665 --> 00:47:12,792
- Be quiet!
- [Kris] No, I'm freaking out.
943
00:47:12,792 --> 00:47:15,086
- [Russ] You're not freaking out.
- [Kris] [spits] No!
944
00:47:15,086 --> 00:47:17,547
I was done. Game over.
945
00:47:17,547 --> 00:47:20,759
And it just kept going
and going and going.
946
00:47:20,759 --> 00:47:23,803
And in that moment,
I didn't know if it was gonna stop.
947
00:47:23,803 --> 00:47:26,014
[Russ] We have hours
and hours to go, Kris.
948
00:47:26,014 --> 00:47:27,891
[Kris]
No, no, no. Russ, no.
949
00:47:27,891 --> 00:47:29,809
- No more, no more.
- [Russ] You're fine.
950
00:47:29,809 --> 00:47:31,770
- Be quiet.
- [Kris] I quit, I quit.
951
00:47:31,770 --> 00:47:33,647
[Russ] You don't quit.
There is no quitting.
952
00:47:33,647 --> 00:47:35,732
- [Kris] [spits] No.
- [Russ] There is no quitting, Kris.
953
00:47:35,732 --> 00:47:38,276
I-I started to question,
"Is this the end?"
954
00:47:38,276 --> 00:47:39,653
I-I can't get out of this.
955
00:47:39,653 --> 00:47:42,948
I was stuck in a spot that
I was not moving from.
956
00:47:42,948 --> 00:47:45,533
[Russ]
I wanna bury you completely. Completely.
957
00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:48,161
[Kris]
No, I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.
958
00:47:48,161 --> 00:47:50,705
- Russ, I can't. Russ, I can't.
- [Russ yells, laughs]
959
00:47:50,705 --> 00:47:53,667
- I quit. Russ, I quit. I can't.
- [Russ] There's no quitting.
960
00:47:53,667 --> 00:47:56,086
- [Kris] Russ, I-- [spits]
- [Russ] Ooh there!
961
00:47:56,086 --> 00:47:59,756
That doubt starts to seep into your head,
and you're thinkin',
962
00:47:59,756 --> 00:48:02,425
"I didn't say goodbye to people.
Why did I come here?
963
00:48:02,425 --> 00:48:04,636
"Why did I go against that
better judgment?
964
00:48:04,636 --> 00:48:08,682
Am I finally gonna be the one
that the line is crossed for?"
965
00:48:10,767 --> 00:48:12,394
You really don't wanna do this.
966
00:48:12,394 --> 00:48:14,771
[Kris panting]
967
00:48:15,105 --> 00:48:18,024
[Russ] So tell the folks about
whether they should come here or not.
968
00:48:18,024 --> 00:48:20,318
[Kris] No, don't go.
Don't come here. Don't sign up.
969
00:48:20,318 --> 00:48:23,238
[Russ] Yeah, sign up. It's fun.
Come on down. Good times for everybody.
970
00:48:23,238 --> 00:48:25,198
- [Kris] No, it's not.
- [Russ] Yes, it is!
971
00:48:25,198 --> 00:48:29,244
[mud gurgling]
972
00:48:29,244 --> 00:48:32,330
[♪ tense music playing]
973
00:48:33,999 --> 00:48:36,877
- [wind blowing]
- [birds cawing]
974
00:48:36,877 --> 00:48:40,005
[Russ] You know, what I really enjoy
is making my little movies.
975
00:48:42,090 --> 00:48:44,551
So, in a way,
I'm a little filmmaker as well.
976
00:48:44,551 --> 00:48:45,886
[♪ dramatic crescendo]
977
00:48:45,886 --> 00:48:48,972
[projector whirring]
978
00:48:55,604 --> 00:49:00,734
[Carol] He works on those videos,
it seems like 24/7.
979
00:49:00,734 --> 00:49:04,779
And so, I constantly hear
screaming all night long.
980
00:49:04,779 --> 00:49:05,989
[screaming]
981
00:49:05,989 --> 00:49:07,198
[inaudible]
982
00:49:07,198 --> 00:49:10,201
[Russ] People tell me this is fake.
Is this fake right now?
983
00:49:10,201 --> 00:49:13,496
- [participant] No, sir, it's not fake.
- [distorted yell]
984
00:49:13,496 --> 00:49:16,374
[Russ] If you ever question
if we're real or not,
985
00:49:16,374 --> 00:49:18,793
just watch the movies
986
00:49:18,793 --> 00:49:20,921
and watch how these people end up.
987
00:49:20,921 --> 00:49:23,215
[on TV] I quit! I quit! I quit! I quit!
988
00:49:23,215 --> 00:49:24,341
[muffled yelling]
989
00:49:24,341 --> 00:49:27,969
[Russ] You'll see individuals
literally in shock.
990
00:49:27,969 --> 00:49:30,555
[on TV] I can't do it,
I can't do it, I can't do it. [gasps]
991
00:49:30,555 --> 00:49:32,891
[Russ] You'll see them
mumbling to themselves,
992
00:49:32,891 --> 00:49:36,186
not knowing what date it is,
not knowing who the president is.
993
00:49:36,186 --> 00:49:39,022
[Russ] [on TV] Who's our first president?
Quick, hurry up.
994
00:49:39,022 --> 00:49:41,316
- I don't know!
- [♪ dramatic crescendo]
995
00:49:42,442 --> 00:49:45,987
That camera. When that camera's in front,
your limits are gone.
996
00:49:45,987 --> 00:49:48,198
- [Russ] Put your head down.
- [Kris] Anything that you sign,
997
00:49:48,198 --> 00:49:50,033
thinkin' that you were getting into
998
00:49:50,033 --> 00:49:52,869
and those were the rules
that were set in place,
999
00:49:52,869 --> 00:49:56,915
they don't exist.
He wants that Kodak moment.
1000
00:49:56,915 --> 00:50:01,211
He wants to be able to see that true fear,
when that person thinks,
1001
00:50:01,211 --> 00:50:04,130
"I'm gonna be the first person
to die at McKamey Manor."
1002
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:13,807
So,
1003
00:50:13,807 --> 00:50:15,475
it was a person,
1004
00:50:15,475 --> 00:50:18,562
they sent me photos I hadn't seen.
1005
00:50:18,562 --> 00:50:19,854
♪
1006
00:50:19,854 --> 00:50:22,732
And it was the photos of Lori.
1007
00:50:22,732 --> 00:50:24,818
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1008
00:50:26,903 --> 00:50:30,865
I'm seein' this girl that was just beaten,
like a gang initiation.
1009
00:50:30,865 --> 00:50:33,660
[clock ticking]
1010
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:36,621
And that's when I said,
"Why did you let that go?"
1011
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:39,291
And the answer I got was,
1012
00:50:39,291 --> 00:50:42,335
"You'd be surprised what you would do
to get the right shot."
1013
00:50:42,335 --> 00:50:44,254
[♪ dramatic sting]
1014
00:50:44,254 --> 00:50:47,924
When I saw these pictures of Lori,
I-I couldn't do it anymore.
1015
00:50:47,924 --> 00:50:49,009
[♪ dramatic sting]
1016
00:50:49,926 --> 00:50:50,927
[♪ dramatic sting]
1017
00:50:51,887 --> 00:50:52,888
[♪ dramatic sting]
1018
00:50:53,847 --> 00:50:56,808
[♪ dramatic crescendo]
1019
00:51:00,061 --> 00:51:02,272
- [Russ] [on TV] No?
- [Gabi] [on TV] I hate it.
1020
00:51:03,106 --> 00:51:04,941
[Russ]
You hate it? Well,
1021
00:51:04,941 --> 00:51:07,360
- hold still, my dear.
- No!
1022
00:51:08,904 --> 00:51:10,196
[haunters gasp]
1023
00:51:11,281 --> 00:51:13,783
[haunter]
Oh... God.
1024
00:51:13,783 --> 00:51:16,661
- And just for safe--
- [Gabi whimpers]
1025
00:51:16,661 --> 00:51:19,164
[on TV] Don't cry, you're still beautiful.
1026
00:51:21,291 --> 00:51:24,085
Gosh. I had no idea what
I was getting myself into.
1027
00:51:27,005 --> 00:51:29,216
I don't know how
he's able to legally do this
1028
00:51:29,216 --> 00:51:31,218
because I don't feel like it's legal.
1029
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,683
Yeah, absolutely. I--
Whenever he's physically abusing
1030
00:51:38,683 --> 00:51:40,977
the females who he entraps in his house.
1031
00:51:40,977 --> 00:51:42,520
How far can we take it?
1032
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,522
I don't think I could legally sue him.
1033
00:51:44,522 --> 00:51:47,067
We signed agreements.
We're consenting adults.
1034
00:51:54,866 --> 00:51:57,118
I don't think there was ever a time
where I was like, I don't--
1035
00:51:57,118 --> 00:51:59,246
Maybe the spider. But,
1036
00:51:59,246 --> 00:52:01,706
I don't think I made it clear
with anything else
1037
00:52:01,706 --> 00:52:03,541
that I was, like, not consenting.
1038
00:52:03,541 --> 00:52:05,669
I didn't really feel like I
could say that, though,
1039
00:52:05,669 --> 00:52:07,087
'cause I signed the waiver.
1040
00:52:07,087 --> 00:52:10,674
So I think signing the waiver, I just felt
like, I was obligated to stay in it.
1041
00:52:11,216 --> 00:52:12,926
[♪ eerie sting]
1042
00:52:12,926 --> 00:52:15,387
We all agreed to it.
1043
00:52:15,971 --> 00:52:17,973
[♪ eerie sting]
1044
00:52:19,266 --> 00:52:22,477
[inaudible]
1045
00:52:29,484 --> 00:52:31,611
There may be an element of shame
1046
00:52:31,611 --> 00:52:34,990
in the fact that you signed up
for this experience, um,
1047
00:52:34,990 --> 00:52:37,784
and this sense that you kind of
brought it on yourself.
1048
00:52:37,784 --> 00:52:41,496
But, under the law, even if
they have signed a waiver,
1049
00:52:42,664 --> 00:52:46,167
they may still have recourse
for what was done to them.
1050
00:52:46,167 --> 00:52:49,212
[♪ soft music playing]
1051
00:52:49,212 --> 00:52:51,256
We tend to be pretty liberal
in the United States
1052
00:52:51,256 --> 00:52:52,966
about what you can consent to.
1053
00:52:55,260 --> 00:52:57,929
It is certainly possible when you attend,
for example,
1054
00:52:57,929 --> 00:53:01,308
a haunted house,
to consent to certain acts
1055
00:53:01,308 --> 00:53:05,228
that may cause fear
or that may even touch you
1056
00:53:05,228 --> 00:53:09,232
in what would otherwise be considered
offensive contact or battery.
1057
00:53:09,232 --> 00:53:12,611
[overlapping screaming]
1058
00:53:12,611 --> 00:53:16,615
But, the line is drawn
when something constitutes
1059
00:53:16,615 --> 00:53:18,116
serious bodily injury.
1060
00:53:18,116 --> 00:53:20,577
Examples of that would be
1061
00:53:20,577 --> 00:53:22,412
traumatic brain injuries,
1062
00:53:22,412 --> 00:53:23,997
fractures,
1063
00:53:23,997 --> 00:53:25,415
back injuries,
1064
00:53:25,415 --> 00:53:29,085
and psychological injuries
that require prolonged treatment.
1065
00:53:29,085 --> 00:53:34,257
So, it is simply not possible
for someone to say,
1066
00:53:34,257 --> 00:53:38,803
"Yes, I am okay with permanent physical
or psychological damage.
1067
00:53:38,803 --> 00:53:39,971
♪
1068
00:53:39,971 --> 00:53:42,057
Even if they say that,
1069
00:53:42,057 --> 00:53:45,143
under the law, that cannot be valid.
1070
00:53:45,769 --> 00:53:49,606
But, the other aspect of it
is that it's a violation of your consent.
1071
00:53:49,606 --> 00:53:52,192
If, for example, your mouth is covered,
1072
00:53:52,192 --> 00:53:53,902
so you cannot say the safe word,
1073
00:53:53,902 --> 00:53:56,738
or the circumstances in that situation
1074
00:53:56,738 --> 00:54:00,158
are such that you really
couldn't reasonably be expected
1075
00:54:00,158 --> 00:54:02,702
to remember or be able
to say a safe word,
1076
00:54:02,702 --> 00:54:07,207
but are acting in other ways that make it
very clear that you've withdrawn consent.
1077
00:54:07,207 --> 00:54:10,126
[participant] Please, sir,
I don't wanna do this anymore, sir!
1078
00:54:10,126 --> 00:54:12,837
Then, I think the proprietor
may have a real problem.
1079
00:54:12,837 --> 00:54:15,924
[♪ dramatic music building]
1080
00:54:19,302 --> 00:54:20,971
[buzzing, zap]
1081
00:54:25,684 --> 00:54:28,395
I would love to see
the manor just go away.
1082
00:54:28,937 --> 00:54:31,940
[Gabi] I would love to sit down
with everybody that's done it
1083
00:54:31,940 --> 00:54:34,818
and just kind of band together and
figure out how we can make change
1084
00:54:34,818 --> 00:54:36,361
and, like, stop him.
1085
00:54:36,361 --> 00:54:39,114
And even if jail isn't where
he ends up, that's fine.
1086
00:54:39,114 --> 00:54:41,366
Like, he just shouldn't
be doing what he's doing.
1087
00:54:41,366 --> 00:54:42,617
[buzzing]
1088
00:54:42,617 --> 00:54:46,371
[Kris] Once the fans are able
to see Russ in his true form,
1089
00:54:47,956 --> 00:54:49,583
I'm hoping the following's gone.
1090
00:54:49,583 --> 00:54:52,210
And when the following's gone,
the manor's gone.
1091
00:54:52,210 --> 00:54:55,297
- [♪ tense music playing]
- [Brandon] The way that you stop him
1092
00:54:56,089 --> 00:55:00,010
is to make sure the truth
is actually known.
1093
00:55:06,474 --> 00:55:08,143
[speaker 7]
I wanted to do something.
1094
00:55:08,143 --> 00:55:09,936
But I didn't know what kind of trouble
1095
00:55:09,936 --> 00:55:12,898
I was gonna get into
from getting into somebody's emails.
1096
00:55:18,111 --> 00:55:19,487
[speaker 7]
Definitely.
1097
00:55:24,409 --> 00:55:26,202
It's gonna be worth it in the end.
1098
00:55:30,206 --> 00:55:32,876
One day, I was bored.
I was looking up on the internet,
1099
00:55:32,876 --> 00:55:36,213
"Haunted houses that pay you
for going through them."
1100
00:55:36,213 --> 00:55:39,007
And I seen this haunted house
will give you $20,000
1101
00:55:39,007 --> 00:55:40,967
if you make it through it.
1102
00:55:40,967 --> 00:55:43,094
I just got married, I had an apartment,
1103
00:55:43,094 --> 00:55:45,972
and, um, I was like, "Man,
$20,000 is a lot of money."
1104
00:55:45,972 --> 00:55:48,225
So, I could use that, and there's no way
1105
00:55:48,225 --> 00:55:49,976
I was not gonna get that $20,000.
1106
00:55:49,976 --> 00:55:52,270
- His hands are shaking.
- [haunter] Oh, I know.
1107
00:55:52,270 --> 00:55:53,563
- He is shaking, isn't he?
- [haunter] Oh, yeah.
1108
00:55:53,563 --> 00:55:56,650
- [haunter] Pop 'em one, Russ.
- [mumbling, grunts]
1109
00:55:57,567 --> 00:56:00,070
[Russ]
Come on. Follow my voice, let's go.
1110
00:56:00,070 --> 00:56:04,032
- [Justin groaning, panting]
- [rattling]
1111
00:56:04,032 --> 00:56:07,160
- I'm suggesting you quit.
- [Justin] Never.
1112
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,997
- [Russ] Never. Never? He says never!
- I was arguing with him back.
1113
00:56:10,997 --> 00:56:13,792
Like, I wasn't bein' passive.
I wasn't bein' submissive to him.
1114
00:56:13,792 --> 00:56:15,460
And I think that's what
really got him mad.
1115
00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:18,296
- Sleep first, then you can do it.
- For the easiest--
1116
00:56:18,296 --> 00:56:20,423
I don't fall for that crap. Just sleep.
1117
00:56:20,423 --> 00:56:24,094
- Okay, y-you need to be quiet.
- No, I don't, dude. What a joke--
1118
00:56:24,094 --> 00:56:26,346
- [Russ] You want a joke, huh?
- [indistinct]
1119
00:56:26,346 --> 00:56:28,974
- You know what? You're done.
- [Justin] Don't even do it, dude. No.
1120
00:56:28,974 --> 00:56:30,976
- Get the hell off me.
- [Russ] Keep that camera on.
1121
00:56:30,976 --> 00:56:34,938
This is what we're seeing right now.
You're out of it right now. You're done.
1122
00:56:34,938 --> 00:56:37,190
[Justin]
I thought there was gonna be $20,000.
1123
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:40,193
I thought there was gonna be a haunt.
I wasted all my money
1124
00:56:40,193 --> 00:56:42,862
and my work days and all that
going there, just to get humiliated.
1125
00:56:42,862 --> 00:56:44,990
What a freak show that was, right?
1126
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:46,866
At that point I wasn't even mad
about the money anymore,
1127
00:56:46,866 --> 00:56:47,951
it was just the embarrassment.
1128
00:56:47,951 --> 00:56:50,036
[♪ rhythmic dramatic music playing]
1129
00:56:52,706 --> 00:56:56,001
So, I started a Facebook page called,
"McKamey Manor Exposed."
1130
00:56:56,001 --> 00:56:59,045
[♪ synth music playing]
1131
00:56:59,045 --> 00:57:01,673
I wanted it to be a place
where people could actually come,
1132
00:57:01,673 --> 00:57:04,926
say what they need to say
without having to worry about threats.
1133
00:57:10,181 --> 00:57:13,935
The biggest thing we found, though,
was we actually got into Russ's emails.
1134
00:57:13,935 --> 00:57:16,021
[mouse scrolling]
1135
00:57:16,021 --> 00:57:19,608
Russ has a very old email service,
and that's where he messed up.
1136
00:57:20,233 --> 00:57:23,153
The company that Russ has for the email
has a phone number.
1137
00:57:23,153 --> 00:57:26,156
So, I called them, and I was like,
"Hey, yeah, I my password."
1138
00:57:26,907 --> 00:57:30,201
So, they says, "Okay, what's your name?"
"Russ McKamey."
1139
00:57:30,201 --> 00:57:32,913
He's like, "Okay, when's the last time
you were on your email?"
1140
00:57:32,913 --> 00:57:34,706
And I was like, you know,
I'm gonna make a good guess.
1141
00:57:34,706 --> 00:57:35,916
I'll say, "Oh it was yesterday."
1142
00:57:35,916 --> 00:57:37,542
She's like, "Oh, alright.
Yeah, that was correct."
1143
00:57:37,542 --> 00:57:39,836
I changed the password
for my email address,
1144
00:57:39,836 --> 00:57:42,672
and then I locked him out.
We hit the jackpot.
1145
00:57:42,672 --> 00:57:45,842
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1146
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:52,224
From his email, we found that
he wasn't paying his taxes on his barn.
1147
00:57:53,767 --> 00:57:56,353
And Russ wrote this email
back to the tax guy saying,
1148
00:57:56,353 --> 00:57:59,022
"This manor is fake.
Everything I'm saying is fake."
1149
00:57:59,022 --> 00:58:02,734
"Russ, I talked to my lawyer today."
I got Russ here with his tax problems.
1150
00:58:02,734 --> 00:58:06,321
This is from Russ's son:
"You absolutely disgust me."
1151
00:58:06,321 --> 00:58:09,532
[typing]
1152
00:58:09,532 --> 00:58:13,411
This guy's really obsessed and, like,
really going after his girlfriend.
1153
00:58:13,411 --> 00:58:15,997
"What you did was
absolutely unacceptable."
1154
00:58:15,997 --> 00:58:19,042
So I took those emails,
I took screenshots, and I showed those.
1155
00:58:19,042 --> 00:58:21,419
Here's the proof right here.
This is, like, something
1156
00:58:21,419 --> 00:58:25,298
you're never gonna see anywhere else.
I put everything on my Facebook page,
1157
00:58:25,298 --> 00:58:27,509
And I was like,
"You guys gotta tell your stories."
1158
00:58:27,509 --> 00:58:30,595
- [typing]
- [♪ dramatic crescendo]
1159
00:58:31,304 --> 00:58:32,973
All these other groups popped up.
1160
00:58:32,973 --> 00:58:35,058
♪
1161
00:58:35,058 --> 00:58:37,727
[Kris]
People started posting stuff online
1162
00:58:37,727 --> 00:58:40,188
that Russ definitely
didn't want anybody to see.
1163
00:58:40,647 --> 00:58:44,484
Guys, he will stuff you in a freezer
full of water upside down until you tap.
1164
00:58:44,484 --> 00:58:48,238
[victim] [over phone]
He got his claws so onto my brain.
1165
00:58:48,697 --> 00:58:51,783
Once I got away from it, I was like,
I'm just gonna expose him.
1166
00:58:51,783 --> 00:58:54,244
This is where
he's reading over the waiver.
1167
00:58:54,244 --> 00:58:55,662
[video chatter]
1168
00:58:55,662 --> 00:58:58,039
So, I posted the reaction videos
on YouTube.
1169
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,458
I was very surprised at
how many people saw it.
1170
00:59:00,458 --> 00:59:05,005
I was in water, and I had, like,
this much air to breathe.
1171
00:59:05,005 --> 00:59:08,300
Fast forward to now, it's, like,
two-point-something million views.
1172
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:12,512
[Brandon] There's so much drama
in these online communities, right?
1173
00:59:12,512 --> 00:59:15,849
It's the McKamey Manor
Facebook group people
1174
00:59:15,849 --> 00:59:16,933
fighting these people,
1175
00:59:16,933 --> 00:59:18,810
and then those people are
fighting against these people.
1176
00:59:18,810 --> 00:59:22,397
[overlapping swearing, yelling]
1177
00:59:22,397 --> 00:59:24,524
[Justin]
If you go on his Facebook page,
1178
00:59:24,524 --> 00:59:26,234
it's a straight-up cult.
1179
00:59:26,234 --> 00:59:28,570
They are obsessed with him.
Like, they don't care.
1180
00:59:28,570 --> 00:59:32,115
Russ could say the sky is green,
and they'll say, "Yes, sir, it is green."
1181
00:59:33,366 --> 00:59:35,869
They will go after the people
1182
00:59:35,869 --> 00:59:38,288
who they perceive as one of their enemies
1183
00:59:38,288 --> 00:59:41,082
or one of their haters
with everything that they have.
1184
00:59:41,082 --> 00:59:43,501
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1185
00:59:43,501 --> 00:59:45,670
[Gabi]
He would send people to the haters.
1186
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:49,132
He called everyone a hater
that didn't agree with what he was doing,
1187
00:59:49,132 --> 00:59:52,928
and he basically encouraged them to, like,
bully, destroy someone on the internet.
1188
00:59:53,845 --> 00:59:57,015
I just got jumped on by all these people
from Russ or whatever,
1189
00:59:57,015 --> 00:59:58,850
and they just tore me apart.
1190
00:59:59,351 --> 01:00:02,312
One guy text me a picture
of where I work at.
1191
01:00:02,312 --> 01:00:04,272
"You're gonna get a call from us," and,
1192
01:00:04,272 --> 01:00:06,858
you know, "See your online activities
of what you're doin'."
1193
01:00:06,858 --> 01:00:09,236
It's not Russ doin' this.
It's his followers.
1194
01:00:09,236 --> 01:00:12,906
People started showing
personal pictures of me on the internet.
1195
01:00:12,906 --> 01:00:16,576
Then went to phone numbers,
then went to addresses.
1196
01:00:16,576 --> 01:00:20,497
I would get anonymous emails
that were saying some godawful things.
1197
01:00:20,497 --> 01:00:23,416
Those are all hate groups.
Those aren't the real deal.
1198
01:00:24,167 --> 01:00:25,168
[mouse scrolling]
1199
01:00:26,461 --> 01:00:29,923
He was very much like
cult leader man.
1200
01:00:29,923 --> 01:00:32,801
Like, "Listen to what I'm saying.
This is what's good for you.
1201
01:00:32,801 --> 01:00:35,053
"This is what
a haunted house experience is.
1202
01:00:35,053 --> 01:00:37,389
"If anyone tells you otherwise,
they're wrong.
1203
01:00:37,389 --> 01:00:39,099
"And if you believe that, you're stupid.
1204
01:00:39,391 --> 01:00:41,476
"If you're not with me,
you're against me.
1205
01:00:41,476 --> 01:00:43,395
And I will make your life
a living hell."
1206
01:00:45,522 --> 01:00:49,192
I started asking questions,
and that's what Russ does not want.
1207
01:00:49,192 --> 01:00:51,653
That dude is a psychopath!
1208
01:00:51,653 --> 01:00:56,032
- I don't even know why you would do it.
- [speaking foreign language]
1209
01:00:56,032 --> 01:00:58,785
There's a whole big group of people,
1210
01:00:58,785 --> 01:01:00,996
and all they're trying
to do is expose him.
1211
01:01:01,663 --> 01:01:05,041
Russ McKamey and the actors
have done some things
1212
01:01:05,041 --> 01:01:07,043
that we need-- they need to answer for.
1213
01:01:07,043 --> 01:01:10,338
Reason he's not in jail is because
technically no one has been un-alived yet.
1214
01:01:10,338 --> 01:01:13,633
Russ actually owes hundreds
of thousands of dollars in taxes.
1215
01:01:13,633 --> 01:01:18,847
Some neighbors actually even called 911,
thinking that there had been an abduction.
1216
01:01:19,097 --> 01:01:21,516
[news anchor 1] The town
turned against McKamey Manor.
1217
01:01:21,516 --> 01:01:24,561
[news anchor 2] There's already
a national movement against Russ.
1218
01:01:24,561 --> 01:01:28,064
We need to keep fighting the good fight
and, uh, doin' what we're doin'.
1219
01:01:28,064 --> 01:01:29,190
[beeping]
1220
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:30,567
[news anchor 3] More than 13,000...
1221
01:01:30,567 --> 01:01:32,986
- [news anchor 4] 18,000...
- [news anchor 5] 56,000 people.
1222
01:01:32,986 --> 01:01:36,948
...signing a Change.org petition
to have McKamey Manor closed.
1223
01:01:36,948 --> 01:01:38,950
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1224
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:40,660
[Kris]
The petitions were comin'.
1225
01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:42,954
[news anchor 6]
Continuing to get more signatures.
1226
01:01:45,916 --> 01:01:48,710
[Kris]
Now, you got the media's attention.
1227
01:01:49,169 --> 01:01:52,005
You are getting reporters
wanting to show up on site.
1228
01:01:52,005 --> 01:01:55,300
When you're running this big charade
1229
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:57,761
of a haunt that's supposedly there,
1230
01:01:58,637 --> 01:02:00,597
how do you not show them that stuff?
1231
01:02:01,348 --> 01:02:04,726
So, Russ ran with the petitions
to shut down
1232
01:02:05,143 --> 01:02:08,688
and said, "Oh, they got the best of us.
The Manor's down."
1233
01:02:11,566 --> 01:02:13,485
♪
1234
01:02:15,445 --> 01:02:17,697
[Russ]
Right now, we're dismantling the manor.
1235
01:02:19,950 --> 01:02:21,868
He literally packed up very quickly
1236
01:02:21,868 --> 01:02:24,371
and booked it across
the country somewhere else.
1237
01:02:24,371 --> 01:02:26,831
[birds chirping]
1238
01:02:31,253 --> 01:02:33,964
[Kris]
Russ is working. He works at Walmart.
1239
01:02:36,049 --> 01:02:38,051
I think he was just doing it
1240
01:02:38,051 --> 01:02:40,011
because there was a lull
1241
01:02:40,011 --> 01:02:42,556
at getting people to the manor.
1242
01:02:42,556 --> 01:02:47,394
Russ, the guy that had McKamey Manor,
has moved to around here
1243
01:02:47,394 --> 01:02:49,980
where I live the last couple years.
1244
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:52,566
Well, I just found out on Facebook
that apparently,
1245
01:02:52,566 --> 01:02:54,901
he works at Walmart
in the Garden Center.
1246
01:02:54,901 --> 01:02:58,280
Wait, you stay.
If I need you, holler for back up.
1247
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,324
This is where this man
has decided to relocate.
1248
01:03:01,741 --> 01:03:03,451
- How are you?
- [Russ] Hey, how you doing?
1249
01:03:03,451 --> 01:03:04,744
Want a bag, miss?
1250
01:03:05,787 --> 01:03:06,830
[scanner beeps]
1251
01:03:09,374 --> 01:03:11,710
Y'all, that was fucking him,
1252
01:03:11,710 --> 01:03:14,254
and it just checked me out.
I'm shaking.
1253
01:03:14,254 --> 01:03:16,339
I didn't-- I thought I was gonna
be all confrontational,
1254
01:03:16,339 --> 01:03:18,258
and I thought I was gonna, like, say this,
1255
01:03:18,258 --> 01:03:19,801
but it's like when you're in the fucking--
1256
01:03:19,801 --> 01:03:22,679
When you're actually
in the presence of a sociopath,
1257
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:25,015
and you know it,
1258
01:03:25,015 --> 01:03:27,142
bro, you lose all that confidence.
1259
01:03:27,142 --> 01:03:31,563
Oh, my God, I'm literally shaking. [sighs]
1260
01:03:32,772 --> 01:03:35,775
[♪ creepy music playing]
1261
01:03:37,485 --> 01:03:40,488
[Kris] There's three types of Russ
that you should know.
1262
01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:44,910
There is the fun-loving Russ
that the followers love.
1263
01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:47,245
- That's a front.
- [mouthing] Help.
1264
01:03:47,245 --> 01:03:49,915
You have the scary Russ
who's going through the show
1265
01:03:49,915 --> 01:03:51,708
you're dealing with.
That's a front.
1266
01:03:51,875 --> 01:03:54,544
And then, you have the real Russ.
1267
01:03:55,962 --> 01:03:59,841
He has so much wrong going on in his head,
1268
01:03:59,841 --> 01:04:03,011
and-and it comes out in the haunt.
1269
01:04:03,011 --> 01:04:06,097
[static]
1270
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:09,809
[on TV] You know, it's no joke in here.
I mean, people think that,
1271
01:04:09,809 --> 01:04:11,603
well, you know, it's a home haunt.
1272
01:04:11,603 --> 01:04:14,189
But, I'm telling ya. It's scary.
1273
01:04:15,315 --> 01:04:17,317
[Kris]
Russ needs to get help,
1274
01:04:18,902 --> 01:04:21,029
or he's gonna keep going
till it's too far.
1275
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:24,115
[♪ pulsing music playing]
1276
01:04:25,867 --> 01:04:26,868
♪
1277
01:04:32,290 --> 01:04:33,792
[Russ]
I'm back.
1278
01:04:35,001 --> 01:04:37,629
[sing-songy]
♪ I'm back, I'm back, I'm back ♪
1279
01:04:37,629 --> 01:04:41,299
♪ Anybody there? Anybody there? ♪
1280
01:04:41,299 --> 01:04:42,592
[♪ dramatic crescendo]
1281
01:04:42,592 --> 01:04:44,678
[inaudible]
1282
01:04:46,513 --> 01:04:49,391
- You better start begging right now!
- I'm begging right now.
1283
01:04:49,391 --> 01:04:51,226
I don't-- I don't wanna go anymore.
I'm done.
1284
01:04:52,185 --> 01:04:54,980
[Kris]
Russ is not quitting. He kept it going.
1285
01:04:55,522 --> 01:04:59,359
Now, there aren't actors.
You are just with Russ going through.
1286
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:03,947
You are getting
a very dangerous experience.
1287
01:05:03,947 --> 01:05:07,993
[Gabi] His tours now, at this point,
he's just doing it to hurt people
1288
01:05:07,993 --> 01:05:09,661
and to prove a point to us,
1289
01:05:09,661 --> 01:05:11,997
to everyone else that, like,
talked out on him.
1290
01:05:11,997 --> 01:05:15,292
Like a, "I'm gonna get back at you
and show you that I can still do this,
1291
01:05:15,292 --> 01:05:17,252
people still wanna be
tortured by me."
1292
01:05:17,252 --> 01:05:20,255
- [muffled whimpering, yelling]
- [Russ] Are you done?
1293
01:05:20,255 --> 01:05:22,215
Back in the day,
he had a haunted house
1294
01:05:22,215 --> 01:05:24,134
and now what it is,
is definitely not a haunt.
1295
01:05:24,134 --> 01:05:25,677
[panicked breathing]
1296
01:05:25,677 --> 01:05:29,055
It's pretty much, you know,
Russ in his yard messin' with you.
1297
01:05:29,055 --> 01:05:30,891
[retching, gagging]
1298
01:05:31,641 --> 01:05:33,727
[Kris]
You know, you're with a guy by himself.
1299
01:05:33,727 --> 01:05:36,271
Everything he does is
justified in his head.
1300
01:05:36,271 --> 01:05:38,481
There is no limits.
1301
01:05:38,481 --> 01:05:39,774
No, no!
1302
01:05:39,774 --> 01:05:42,861
[creaking]
1303
01:05:44,571 --> 01:05:47,741
[projector whirring]
1304
01:05:48,366 --> 01:05:50,619
[Melissa]
I live in such a small town.
1305
01:05:50,619 --> 01:05:52,746
And I'm basically a nobody.
1306
01:05:52,746 --> 01:05:55,206
And, you know,
that's how I felt about myself.
1307
01:05:55,206 --> 01:05:56,583
♪
1308
01:05:56,583 --> 01:06:00,045
During my first tour,
you know, you had all these signs,
1309
01:06:00,837 --> 01:06:03,840
but, at the time,
I didn't wanna deal with that.
1310
01:06:04,883 --> 01:06:07,510
I'd just seen a nice person
1311
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:11,431
that was giving me everything
I needed at the time.
1312
01:06:11,431 --> 01:06:13,099
I just felt like I got
1313
01:06:13,099 --> 01:06:16,019
really taken easy on, looking back.
1314
01:06:16,019 --> 01:06:18,897
I was nobody before any of this,
1315
01:06:18,897 --> 01:06:21,149
and I'd wake up with a million messages
1316
01:06:21,149 --> 01:06:23,193
from all these people
who supported me.
1317
01:06:23,193 --> 01:06:26,655
Like, me. The nobody that was once before,
1318
01:06:26,655 --> 01:06:30,075
now has a million people hyping her up
1319
01:06:30,075 --> 01:06:32,661
and just being friendly.
1320
01:06:32,661 --> 01:06:35,247
And [laughs] it was just life changing,
1321
01:06:35,247 --> 01:06:37,165
and I didn't want it to end.
1322
01:06:37,749 --> 01:06:41,294
I wasn't anticipating coming back,
1323
01:06:41,294 --> 01:06:43,547
but he was up on my phone,
1324
01:06:43,547 --> 01:06:45,507
texting or calling or video chatting.
1325
01:06:45,507 --> 01:06:47,717
Like, I didn't even have time
to even think about
1326
01:06:47,717 --> 01:06:49,886
what had happened
and what I went through.
1327
01:06:49,886 --> 01:06:51,263
♪
1328
01:06:51,263 --> 01:06:54,391
[Kris] I remember when Melissa Everly
was going through it.
1329
01:06:54,391 --> 01:06:56,768
She is Russ' type.
1330
01:06:58,645 --> 01:07:01,648
I met Melissa,
reaching out and trying
1331
01:07:01,648 --> 01:07:03,775
to talk her out of
going to McKamey Manor,
1332
01:07:03,775 --> 01:07:06,194
and she was drinkin' the Kool-Aid.
1333
01:07:06,194 --> 01:07:09,281
She was buying in and listenin' to Russ.
1334
01:07:09,281 --> 01:07:12,033
Russ was the good guy.
All of us were just crazies.
1335
01:07:12,033 --> 01:07:15,704
And the first conversation we had,
it wasn't a great one.
1336
01:07:15,704 --> 01:07:19,708
She thought I was some loon that was
some hater trying to talk her out of it.
1337
01:07:21,167 --> 01:07:24,296
[Melissa] Russ was dangling
everything over my head.
1338
01:07:24,296 --> 01:07:26,131
"Look, you're the Abyss Queen."
1339
01:07:26,131 --> 01:07:29,092
He gave me a nickname and rolled with it
1340
01:07:29,092 --> 01:07:31,136
and had everybody calling me that.
1341
01:07:31,136 --> 01:07:33,346
And that's how people knew me.
He was like,
1342
01:07:33,346 --> 01:07:35,932
"Oh, well, think of your fans."
1343
01:07:35,932 --> 01:07:38,852
I wanted to beat the thing
and be the first to complete it.
1344
01:07:39,644 --> 01:07:40,854
He knew that.
1345
01:07:40,854 --> 01:07:42,022
♪
1346
01:07:42,022 --> 01:07:44,441
One day, he messaged me and was like,
1347
01:07:44,441 --> 01:07:46,818
"Hey, can you make it
for a tour tomorrow?"
1348
01:07:46,818 --> 01:07:50,488
[birds chirping]
1349
01:07:50,488 --> 01:07:52,824
[insects chirping]
1350
01:07:52,824 --> 01:07:56,202
I drive down for the second tour.
1351
01:07:56,745 --> 01:07:57,871
[static]
1352
01:07:57,871 --> 01:08:01,666
Russ ends up coming over
to the hotel room.
1353
01:08:02,250 --> 01:08:04,502
And I knew from the YouTube videos,
1354
01:08:04,502 --> 01:08:07,714
this isn't the first time
he's been in somebody's hotel room.
1355
01:08:07,714 --> 01:08:10,800
And so, in my mind, it's harmless.
1356
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,638
He was coming over to instruct me
on what to do for the evening.
1357
01:08:14,638 --> 01:08:18,683
And he gives me a list of
things that I have to do.
1358
01:08:18,683 --> 01:08:21,353
Lunges, singing, pushups, sit-ups.
1359
01:08:21,353 --> 01:08:22,896
♪
1360
01:08:22,896 --> 01:08:25,732
The conversation ended up taking a turn
1361
01:08:25,732 --> 01:08:27,651
kind of for the worst.
1362
01:08:27,651 --> 01:08:30,237
He started going into
1363
01:08:30,237 --> 01:08:33,782
his sexual history with past contestants,
1364
01:08:33,782 --> 01:08:36,159
talking about how he liked
1365
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:38,745
a very competitive, athletic girl,
1366
01:08:38,745 --> 01:08:42,666
but he wants a woman that's gonna
submit to him when it comes to
1367
01:08:43,583 --> 01:08:46,419
being aggressive during sex.
1368
01:08:47,212 --> 01:08:49,965
In that moment,
I was feeling very nervous.
1369
01:08:51,049 --> 01:08:54,511
Like, I'm just there.
I'm barely participating in conversation,
1370
01:08:54,511 --> 01:08:56,596
because I don't really know what to say.
1371
01:08:56,596 --> 01:08:59,349
I don't wanna give any leading responses
1372
01:08:59,349 --> 01:09:01,726
because I just wanted
to go through the manor.
1373
01:09:01,726 --> 01:09:05,772
I was tired. I was exhausted.
I was willing to listen to him,
1374
01:09:05,772 --> 01:09:08,900
but I-I was also scared that
1375
01:09:08,900 --> 01:09:10,485
if I'm propositioned,
1376
01:09:10,485 --> 01:09:13,738
I'm not gonna be able to have
this experience if I decline.
1377
01:09:14,364 --> 01:09:16,324
And I was scared to what happens next.
1378
01:09:16,324 --> 01:09:19,286
Wh-Whatever I do, and all
of this is ripped from me,
1379
01:09:19,286 --> 01:09:22,497
you know, what kind of monster
is he gonna make me out to be?
1380
01:09:22,497 --> 01:09:24,082
If this is perfectly fine,
1381
01:09:24,082 --> 01:09:26,668
and he's done it with all
these other contestants,
1382
01:09:26,668 --> 01:09:29,212
is everybody gonna make
me a laughingstock?
1383
01:09:29,212 --> 01:09:31,673
You know, what's gonna happen?
1384
01:09:32,382 --> 01:09:34,467
So, he ends up leaving the room,
1385
01:09:34,467 --> 01:09:36,845
and I stay up doing these lives.
1386
01:09:36,845 --> 01:09:39,848
By the time my tour starts, um, it's--
1387
01:09:39,848 --> 01:09:42,851
I'll be up for 26 hours.
1388
01:09:42,851 --> 01:09:44,603
Happy Sunday.
1389
01:09:46,104 --> 01:09:49,941
That's right. Happy Sunday, Michelle.
Happy Sunday.
1390
01:09:53,528 --> 01:09:55,530
Gotta keep my eyes on the road, so...
1391
01:09:57,949 --> 01:09:59,826
I do have someone I want you to see.
1392
01:10:02,412 --> 01:10:05,040
[Melissa]
My brain was like mashed potatoes
1393
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,125
when he came and picked me up,
1394
01:10:07,125 --> 01:10:09,586
and we headed out
1395
01:10:09,586 --> 01:10:11,922
to go for my next tour.
1396
01:10:11,922 --> 01:10:14,049
It's just me and Russ on this tour.
1397
01:10:14,049 --> 01:10:16,134
[Russ]
Go ahead and talk to 'em.
1398
01:10:16,134 --> 01:10:18,720
[sighs]
1399
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,972
- Alright, everyone.
- [Russ] She's not near as bubbly
1400
01:10:20,972 --> 01:10:22,307
as she normally is.
1401
01:10:22,307 --> 01:10:23,475
- I'm tired.
- [Russ] Tired.
1402
01:10:23,475 --> 01:10:25,435
♪
1403
01:10:25,435 --> 01:10:27,020
[Melissa]
He had no helpers.
1404
01:10:27,020 --> 01:10:30,106
[♪ heartbeat-type rhythm playing]
1405
01:10:33,652 --> 01:10:36,029
We have our, our young lady here.
1406
01:10:37,239 --> 01:10:39,950
Ms. Everly is doing awesome.
1407
01:10:41,076 --> 01:10:43,078
Killing it today. Killing it.
1408
01:10:44,412 --> 01:10:46,039
[birds cawing]
1409
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:47,958
Why don't you come on out?
1410
01:10:52,420 --> 01:10:54,881
Okay, that's good right there.
Stay where you are.
1411
01:10:54,881 --> 01:10:56,633
Through the bamboo run
1412
01:10:56,633 --> 01:10:59,594
is when he started, like,
whispering in my ear
1413
01:10:59,594 --> 01:11:02,138
and, like, complimenting my neck,
1414
01:11:02,138 --> 01:11:05,725
and kind of grabbing my
neck and being sexual.
1415
01:11:05,725 --> 01:11:08,520
[Russ] You know what you need?
You need a little color.
1416
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:09,938
Would you like a little color?
1417
01:11:09,938 --> 01:11:12,023
[Melissa inaudible]
1418
01:11:12,023 --> 01:11:13,608
[Russ]
Tilt your head back.
1419
01:11:15,610 --> 01:11:18,822
[Melissa] But, in that moment, I'm like,
"Oh, this is part of the tour.
1420
01:11:18,822 --> 01:11:20,907
You know, this is part of what he does."
1421
01:11:22,867 --> 01:11:24,411
[scoffs] I was dead to the world.
1422
01:11:24,411 --> 01:11:27,706
By the end of it,
I was over 30 hours no sleep.
1423
01:11:27,706 --> 01:11:29,708
I was beyond sleep deprived.
1424
01:11:29,708 --> 01:11:32,752
[Russ] You feel like a noodle, don't ya?
How's your brain?
1425
01:11:32,752 --> 01:11:34,963
Seriously,
how's your brain feel right now?
1426
01:11:34,963 --> 01:11:37,966
[sighs] All kinds of messed up
1427
01:11:37,966 --> 01:11:39,593
in every direction possible.
1428
01:11:39,593 --> 01:11:41,678
[Russ]
This is gonna suck.
1429
01:11:42,429 --> 01:11:44,681
- [sighs]
- [dripping]
1430
01:11:44,681 --> 01:11:45,765
[whimpers]
1431
01:11:51,146 --> 01:11:54,024
[Melissa] I remember at that point,
I had fell asleep,
1432
01:11:54,024 --> 01:11:57,861
and he told me it was fine, "Go to sleep."
He'd covered me up with towels.
1433
01:11:57,861 --> 01:12:00,488
[wind blowing]
1434
01:12:00,488 --> 01:12:02,490
[quietly]
Come on, everybody. Come on in.
1435
01:12:02,490 --> 01:12:04,743
[birds chirping]
1436
01:12:04,743 --> 01:12:06,328
Talkin' quiet because
1437
01:12:07,495 --> 01:12:10,790
tryin' to get Ms. Everly to go to sleep.
1438
01:12:11,249 --> 01:12:13,168
Well,
1439
01:12:13,168 --> 01:12:15,212
sometime after the tour,
1440
01:12:15,212 --> 01:12:17,672
and I-I'm gonna fast forward for a moment
1441
01:12:17,672 --> 01:12:21,593
because I asked him how the footage went.
1442
01:12:22,344 --> 01:12:24,721
And he was like,
"Well, there was this one time
1443
01:12:24,721 --> 01:12:27,349
that I didn't get the footage
I really wish I had."
1444
01:12:27,349 --> 01:12:30,435
[♪ dramatic sting]
1445
01:12:34,689 --> 01:12:37,150
[Russ breathing]
1446
01:12:37,150 --> 01:12:39,653
What happened?
What did he do when I was asleep?
1447
01:12:39,653 --> 01:12:41,196
Because he never answered me.
1448
01:12:41,196 --> 01:12:43,907
And I think I deserve the right to know.
1449
01:12:43,907 --> 01:12:46,785
Like, what did he mean?
What footage did he miss?
1450
01:12:46,785 --> 01:12:49,454
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1451
01:12:49,454 --> 01:12:53,208
That's always going to haunt me.
[crying] I will question myself that
1452
01:12:54,793 --> 01:12:56,711
to the day I die.
1453
01:12:56,711 --> 01:12:58,421
'Cause I don't want,
1454
01:12:58,421 --> 01:13:01,299
and I never have wanted,
to do anything with Russ.
1455
01:13:03,260 --> 01:13:06,638
And it-- just the fact that
that may have been a possibility,
1456
01:13:06,638 --> 01:13:08,223
disgusts me.
1457
01:13:08,223 --> 01:13:11,518
He is a cruel, fucking disgusting person.
1458
01:13:13,728 --> 01:13:15,730
[sharp inhale]
1459
01:13:16,314 --> 01:13:18,775
[Russ] [on TV]
Good. Put your head back a little bit.
1460
01:13:19,776 --> 01:13:21,319
Enjoy that sun while you can.
1461
01:13:23,029 --> 01:13:25,532
- You got it right in there good?
- [Melissa] Mm-hmm.
1462
01:13:27,492 --> 01:13:31,538
There's always gonna be that doubt.
There's always gonna be that doubt.
1463
01:13:35,667 --> 01:13:38,169
We have a tired little puppy here.
1464
01:13:41,256 --> 01:13:44,259
♪
1465
01:13:49,431 --> 01:13:52,267
[Melissa]
Everything finally adds up.
1466
01:13:52,267 --> 01:13:55,395
It adds up that Russ is just
1467
01:13:55,395 --> 01:13:59,441
a narcissistic,
manipulative piece of fuck.
1468
01:13:59,649 --> 01:14:01,735
[insects chirping]
1469
01:14:01,735 --> 01:14:04,738
Don't learn the hard way, like we have.
1470
01:14:10,285 --> 01:14:12,162
[static hissing]
1471
01:14:12,162 --> 01:14:14,122
[♪ tense music playing]
1472
01:14:14,122 --> 01:14:18,126
[W.P.] I love getting scared.
I wanna populate our earth with more art
1473
01:14:18,126 --> 01:14:20,879
and make it horror. You know what?
1474
01:14:20,879 --> 01:14:23,256
Keep doing it, you know?
'Cause eventually,
1475
01:14:23,256 --> 01:14:26,384
this could replace movies for some people,
and it does now.
1476
01:14:26,384 --> 01:14:29,846
[projector whirring]
1477
01:14:30,597 --> 01:14:32,599
[Melissa]
I wanted to find another haunt
1478
01:14:32,599 --> 01:14:34,935
because I wanted to fill that void.
1479
01:14:34,935 --> 01:14:37,812
I wanted to find something
that can help me cope,
1480
01:14:37,812 --> 01:14:40,732
to give me that reminder,
"Hey, if you went through this,
1481
01:14:40,732 --> 01:14:42,275
you can go through anything."
1482
01:14:42,275 --> 01:14:46,029
Because the purpose isn't
to sexually molest people.
1483
01:14:46,029 --> 01:14:49,157
Th-The purpose is not to do
anything untoward to somebody
1484
01:14:49,157 --> 01:14:52,327
or to make them a victim.
It's to make you grow.
1485
01:14:52,327 --> 01:14:55,747
That little girl, that itch,
is still very much inside of me.
1486
01:14:55,747 --> 01:14:58,416
I've just had to not scratch
the itch for a while,
1487
01:14:58,416 --> 01:15:00,085
to recover from the manor.
1488
01:15:00,835 --> 01:15:01,836
[♪ dramatic sting]
1489
01:15:09,010 --> 01:15:11,638
I'm telling you. You wanna do somethin'
1490
01:15:11,638 --> 01:15:13,557
taboo and out there?
1491
01:15:14,933 --> 01:15:16,768
There's places that'll help you.
1492
01:15:16,768 --> 01:15:18,937
♪
1493
01:15:18,937 --> 01:15:21,273
[producer]
Tell us what you're about to go do.
1494
01:15:21,273 --> 01:15:24,109
[Melissa]
I'm about to go do Miasma.
1495
01:15:24,484 --> 01:15:26,987
- [♪ dramatic sting]
- [tech] I'm at the fog machine.
1496
01:15:26,987 --> 01:15:29,155
[bell ringing]
1497
01:15:29,155 --> 01:15:31,449
Give it a longer pause between that.
1498
01:15:31,449 --> 01:15:35,495
Diversity is really the norm.
People have very diverse genetic makeups,
1499
01:15:35,495 --> 01:15:37,831
people want different things,
1500
01:15:37,831 --> 01:15:40,208
people have different
psychological traits.
1501
01:15:40,208 --> 01:15:42,043
So, we need to recognize
1502
01:15:42,043 --> 01:15:45,046
that there are people who need challenges,
1503
01:15:45,046 --> 01:15:47,674
they need risk, they need sensation.
1504
01:15:47,674 --> 01:15:50,677
And we need to make sure that
those spaces are available,
1505
01:15:50,677 --> 01:15:54,306
so people can get what they need
within the bounds of the law.
1506
01:16:05,609 --> 01:16:08,612
[♪ tense crescendo]
1507
01:16:08,612 --> 01:16:10,488
[knocking]
1508
01:16:10,488 --> 01:16:11,573
[♪ dramatic sting]
1509
01:16:12,073 --> 01:16:13,158
[knocking]
1510
01:16:13,158 --> 01:16:14,242
[door opens]
1511
01:16:17,370 --> 01:16:19,456
- [door shuts]
- [muttering]
1512
01:16:19,456 --> 01:16:21,833
[haunter]
Turn around, turn around.
1513
01:16:22,918 --> 01:16:24,336
Sign when you're ready.
1514
01:16:24,336 --> 01:16:26,963
[♪ tense music playing]
1515
01:16:29,466 --> 01:16:32,344
[haunter] When this bell rings,
you're no longer Melissa.
1516
01:16:32,344 --> 01:16:34,262
You become Jay. Do you understand?
1517
01:16:35,347 --> 01:16:38,016
- Who do you become when this bell rings?
- [Melissa] Jay.
1518
01:16:38,016 --> 01:16:40,644
- [haunter] What is the safety word?
- [Brandon] Safety.
1519
01:16:40,644 --> 01:16:44,189
[haunter] Do you understand you can
say this at any time for any reason,
1520
01:16:44,189 --> 01:16:46,441
- your show will stop?
- [Brandon] Yes.
1521
01:16:46,441 --> 01:16:49,945
- [haunter] What happens when this rings?
- I'm Jay.
1522
01:16:49,945 --> 01:16:51,738
[bell rings]
1523
01:16:51,738 --> 01:16:53,698
[haunter]
Fucking run, Jay! Keep going!
1524
01:16:53,698 --> 01:16:54,824
[incoherent shouting]
1525
01:16:54,824 --> 01:16:56,910
[♪ tense crescendo]
1526
01:16:56,910 --> 01:16:59,913
[distorted voices]
Follow it, follow it! Follow it forward.
1527
01:17:01,581 --> 01:17:03,750
[camera shutter snapping]
1528
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:05,168
[plastic stretching]
1529
01:17:05,168 --> 01:17:08,046
[inaudible]
1530
01:17:08,046 --> 01:17:11,049
[♪ mysterious music playing]
1531
01:17:15,554 --> 01:17:17,180
- [electrical zap]
- [scream, groan]
1532
01:17:17,180 --> 01:17:20,058
- [bag crinkling]
- [tape stretching]
1533
01:17:22,561 --> 01:17:23,645
[blast]
1534
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,235
- [click, hit]
- [yells]
1535
01:17:30,569 --> 01:17:32,779
[screaming]
1536
01:17:32,779 --> 01:17:34,781
- [fire, hit]
- [screams]
1537
01:17:34,781 --> 01:17:38,368
[groaning]
1538
01:17:38,368 --> 01:17:40,662
- [gunshot]
- [screaming]
1539
01:17:41,329 --> 01:17:44,749
Where's the cliff edge, right?
1540
01:17:44,749 --> 01:17:47,460
- [panting]
- Or have I already gone over it?
1541
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:48,545
[hyperventilating]
1542
01:17:49,087 --> 01:17:53,008
[haunter] No. No. Stay down. Stay down.
Stay down, stay down.
1543
01:17:53,008 --> 01:17:56,094
- Hey. Hey, you okay?
- [hyperventilating continues]
1544
01:17:56,094 --> 01:17:59,014
- You okay?
- [Brandon] [panting] Yeah.
1545
01:17:59,014 --> 01:18:01,516
- [haunter] Do you wanna keep going?
- [Brandon] Yes.
1546
01:18:01,516 --> 01:18:04,102
Look at these scars. I'm bleeding.
1547
01:18:05,103 --> 01:18:07,397
My heart was beating through my chest.
1548
01:18:07,981 --> 01:18:08,982
[gunshot]
1549
01:18:08,982 --> 01:18:10,650
It's freakin' awesome.
1550
01:18:10,650 --> 01:18:13,153
What the fuck is wrong with you?!
1551
01:18:14,487 --> 01:18:17,365
- [Melissa crying]
- [haunter] Tell her you fuckin' hate her.
1552
01:18:17,365 --> 01:18:20,619
- [Melissa] I fucking hate you!
- [haunter] Tell her you wish she was dead.
1553
01:18:20,619 --> 01:18:23,288
- [Melissa] I wish you were dead!
- [haunter] Scream it!
1554
01:18:23,705 --> 01:18:25,832
[♪ quiet music playing]
1555
01:18:25,832 --> 01:18:28,960
[inaudible]
1556
01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:33,381
[haunter And Melissa]
Dead! Dead! Dead! Dead! Dead!
1557
01:18:33,381 --> 01:18:36,426
Dead! Dead! Dead!
1558
01:18:36,426 --> 01:18:40,222
[haunters] Who are you?! Who the fuck
are you?! Who the fuck are you?!
1559
01:18:40,222 --> 01:18:42,182
Answer, answer! Answer! Answer me!
1560
01:18:42,182 --> 01:18:45,518
I already have an anxiety brain
that can kind of make up scenarios.
1561
01:18:45,518 --> 01:18:48,647
So, if someone makes up
a scenario that's crazier than me,
1562
01:18:48,647 --> 01:18:50,357
- [screams]
- I, like, give them props for it.
1563
01:18:50,357 --> 01:18:52,692
♪
1564
01:18:55,862 --> 01:18:57,781
- [taser zaps]
- [pained screaming]
1565
01:18:57,781 --> 01:19:01,785
- [haunters] [chanting] Jay, Jay, Jay.
- [Brandon screaming]
1566
01:19:01,785 --> 01:19:03,411
[Brandon]
Fuck!
1567
01:19:03,411 --> 01:19:06,289
- [haunter] Who are you supposed to be?
- Jay.
1568
01:19:06,289 --> 01:19:08,416
- [haunter] Louder.
- Jay!
1569
01:19:08,416 --> 01:19:10,210
- [haunter] Scream it!
- Jay!
1570
01:19:10,210 --> 01:19:12,003
- [haunter] One more time!
- Jay!
1571
01:19:12,003 --> 01:19:15,257
- [haunter] Can't fucking hear you!
- [indistinct swearing, yelling]
1572
01:19:15,257 --> 01:19:18,051
- Who the fuck are you supposed to be?!
- Jay!
1573
01:19:20,178 --> 01:19:21,972
- [knife clatters]
- [gasping]
1574
01:19:21,972 --> 01:19:24,933
[♪ dramatic music playing]
1575
01:19:24,933 --> 01:19:27,143
[Melissa gasping, sniffling]
1576
01:19:28,853 --> 01:19:32,357
- Who do you wanna be?
- Me. I wanna be me. [gasps]
1577
01:19:38,989 --> 01:19:40,699
[gasps]
1578
01:19:42,242 --> 01:19:45,245
[inaudible]
1579
01:19:49,291 --> 01:19:51,293
[plastic crinkling]
1580
01:19:57,090 --> 01:19:59,968
It's very cathartic, right?
In there, it's still--
1581
01:19:59,968 --> 01:20:02,512
There's a lot of processing
that's still goin' on, right?
1582
01:20:02,512 --> 01:20:05,390
- [haunter] Of course.
- Like, I've done this shit before,
1583
01:20:05,390 --> 01:20:07,642
and, you know, you're out of it
in 15, 20 minutes
1584
01:20:07,642 --> 01:20:09,185
once you get back to the real world,
1585
01:20:09,185 --> 01:20:11,855
but this is gonna stay with me
for a little while, I think.
1586
01:20:11,855 --> 01:20:14,691
Like, I don't know--
I don't know how to--
1587
01:20:14,691 --> 01:20:17,527
I don't know how to
describe the experience.
1588
01:20:19,571 --> 01:20:23,241
There is actually
a great emotional release
1589
01:20:23,241 --> 01:20:25,535
after some type of self-harm behavior.
1590
01:20:25,535 --> 01:20:28,914
[♪ slow music playing]
1591
01:20:28,914 --> 01:20:31,583
On one level, it exhausts us.
1592
01:20:31,583 --> 01:20:35,086
Then, it starts to promote
this addiction-like dopamine pathway
1593
01:20:35,086 --> 01:20:36,796
that we seek out over and over.
1594
01:20:36,796 --> 01:20:40,050
- [haunter] Congratulations.
- Fuck! Fuck!
1595
01:20:40,050 --> 01:20:42,677
[sobbing] That was one hell of a show.
1596
01:20:42,677 --> 01:20:46,014
- [haunter] Are you okay? Are you okay?
- [Melissa] Thank you so much.
1597
01:20:46,014 --> 01:20:48,516
[Melissa]
It meant the world to me.
1598
01:20:48,516 --> 01:20:50,769
[sobbing]
1599
01:20:50,769 --> 01:20:52,687
[haunter] That's some great news.
1600
01:20:52,687 --> 01:20:54,814
Thank you so much, Justin.
1601
01:20:54,814 --> 01:20:56,566
[sniffles] That was fucking--
1602
01:20:56,566 --> 01:20:58,568
[Haunter Justin] Thank you,
but I'm glad you're okay.
1603
01:20:58,568 --> 01:21:00,320
I'm glad you got something out of it.
1604
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,280
- [laughs] Thank you.
- You did awesome.
1605
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,908
- It's a rough show, and you did so good.
- Yeah.
1606
01:21:04,908 --> 01:21:07,410
- It's not-- [laughs]
- [Haunter Justin] No, no.
1607
01:21:07,410 --> 01:21:10,121
- And you did awesome.
- Thank you.
1608
01:21:10,121 --> 01:21:13,083
[Haunter Justin] Um, so right now,
you can just take a breath.
1609
01:21:13,083 --> 01:21:16,169
[♪ slow music continues]
1610
01:21:24,302 --> 01:21:28,098
Russ... is damaged himself.
1611
01:21:28,098 --> 01:21:31,643
And he has some inner demons or trauma
1612
01:21:31,643 --> 01:21:35,397
that he needs to get help with,
and I hope he does.
1613
01:21:35,397 --> 01:21:38,441
[W.P.] He is a person who
aspired to be an entertainer
1614
01:21:38,441 --> 01:21:41,861
and became the torturer, the tormentor.
1615
01:21:41,861 --> 01:21:45,073
I was dragged across asphalt
1616
01:21:45,073 --> 01:21:47,534
in a parking lot... [coughs]
1617
01:21:47,534 --> 01:21:49,286
after my tour was already over!
1618
01:21:49,286 --> 01:21:52,163
None of you even know
what you're talkin' about.
1619
01:21:52,163 --> 01:21:55,500
Russ isn't a torturer, okay?
He's a showman.
1620
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:58,253
People are stupid.
That's what you sign up for.
1621
01:21:58,253 --> 01:22:00,839
It's his own little narcissism factory,
1622
01:22:00,839 --> 01:22:04,134
that people just come to,
to-to-to-to help him feed on it.
1623
01:22:04,134 --> 01:22:07,679
And they're still very much
active groups on Facebook.
1624
01:22:07,679 --> 01:22:09,264
It's just, you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
1625
01:22:09,264 --> 01:22:11,933
You're believing what he says.
You're lapping it up.
1626
01:22:11,933 --> 01:22:14,352
Russ, I think you're a good man.
1627
01:22:14,352 --> 01:22:17,814
Just a little misunderstood
by some people.
1628
01:22:17,814 --> 01:22:20,191
If people wanna do it,
I'm not gonna stop 'em,
1629
01:22:20,191 --> 01:22:22,861
but it's not gonna shock me
if someone dies one day,
1630
01:22:22,861 --> 01:22:24,738
and Russ goes to jail
because of it.
1631
01:22:24,738 --> 01:22:27,532
- [Gabi inaudible]
- [director] What would you like
1632
01:22:27,532 --> 01:22:31,119
the takeaway to be
from your participation in this?
1633
01:22:31,119 --> 01:22:32,704
That
1634
01:22:33,788 --> 01:22:35,165
immersive haunts are okay,
1635
01:22:35,165 --> 01:22:37,167
even if it seems crazy and weird.
1636
01:22:39,461 --> 01:22:42,714
You can have your kinks,
and that's perfectly fine.
1637
01:22:42,714 --> 01:22:46,051
But don't invite people into your kinks
without them knowing
1638
01:22:46,051 --> 01:22:48,511
that that's exactly what
they're going to be in.
1639
01:22:48,511 --> 01:22:51,556
If I knew I was getting
into Russ's fantasy world
1640
01:22:51,556 --> 01:22:54,142
and living out whatever fantasies
he wanted to see,
1641
01:22:54,142 --> 01:22:57,354
I probably would've felt different
about it. But I was supposed to be
1642
01:22:57,354 --> 01:23:00,232
in a survive my own horror experience,
1643
01:23:00,232 --> 01:23:04,277
not survive, like,
Russ McKamey's fantasy experience.
1644
01:23:05,111 --> 01:23:08,156
[Russ]
Am I still doing tours? Of course!
1645
01:23:08,156 --> 01:23:11,284
I have a tour this weekend!
1646
01:23:11,284 --> 01:23:13,828
[on TV] I have a heart murmur
I need to get taken care of.
1647
01:23:13,828 --> 01:23:17,874
I have surgery in about a month.
If I, if I can get medically cleared,
1648
01:23:17,874 --> 01:23:21,545
um, hopefully, fingers crossed,
in six months, I'll be up for a tour.
1649
01:23:21,545 --> 01:23:24,714
My name is Shelby.
I'm from Scotland.
1650
01:23:24,714 --> 01:23:26,466
I work in the dental field.
1651
01:23:26,466 --> 01:23:28,760
I'm a professional nurse.
1652
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,013
I hold a very high position in a company.
1653
01:23:32,013 --> 01:23:35,767
I would love to go visit Russ,
and I would love to hang out with him.
1654
01:23:35,767 --> 01:23:39,104
I'd love to take a tour at some point
when I can get to the South.
1655
01:23:39,104 --> 01:23:42,357
I wanna take the tour because
I love the survival horror movie.
1656
01:23:42,357 --> 01:23:45,026
I need to challenge myself
a little bit more,
1657
01:23:45,026 --> 01:23:47,404
and this would be the ultimate challenge.
1658
01:23:47,404 --> 01:23:51,032
If I were to be put in that situation,
1659
01:23:51,032 --> 01:23:53,243
I would be able to survive.
1660
01:23:53,243 --> 01:23:56,830
I could get out of that.
That would never happen to me.
1661
01:23:56,830 --> 01:23:58,832
McKamey Manor, I'm coming for you.
1662
01:23:58,832 --> 01:24:02,460
Drown me, beat me, torture me.
1663
01:24:02,460 --> 01:24:05,839
I'm here for all of it.
And my kids are gonna watch all of it.
1664
01:24:05,839 --> 01:24:09,885
The manor is safe, it's fun,
1665
01:24:09,885 --> 01:24:13,805
and it will take you to your limit.
1666
01:24:13,805 --> 01:24:16,892
♪
1667
01:24:20,312 --> 01:24:23,732
- [wind blowing]
- [birds chirping]
1668
01:24:29,029 --> 01:24:30,530
- [exhales]
- [wiping]
1669
01:24:35,535 --> 01:24:37,537
[victim]
No. [whimpering]
1670
01:24:38,330 --> 01:24:39,831
[Russ sighs]
1671
01:25:17,202 --> 01:25:20,205
[♪ soft ukulele music playing]
1672
01:25:28,004 --> 01:25:31,007
[♪ vocalizing]
1673
01:25:51,069 --> 01:25:54,072
[♪ ukulele, vocalizing continue]
1674
01:26:10,463 --> 01:26:14,968
♪ Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum ♪
1675
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,265
♪ Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum ♪
1676
01:26:21,182 --> 01:26:25,687
♪ Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum ♪
1677
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,108
♪ Bum bum bum ba-ah ♪
1678
01:26:31,902 --> 01:26:34,905
[♪ vocalizing]
1679
01:26:43,163 --> 01:26:46,166
[♪ music fades out]