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"Between 1940 and 1943,
more than 9,000 Spanish citizens

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were interned
in concentration camps

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in Nazi Germany.

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Most of them were Republicans
who had fled to France

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at the end of
the Spanish Civil War.

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Franco had the opportunity
to avoid this deportation

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through its agreements
with Hitler's government,

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but rejected that possibility.

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After the end of
the Second World War,

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Spain did not take care of
of the survivors.

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In the 1960s,
Spanish deportees

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created an association

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to fight
against institutional neglect

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to which they were subjected.

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In 2005 they were dealt a severe blow."

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Did you record sound?

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A1-1, first.

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Action.

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(SPEAKS ENGLISH)

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Are you okay, sweetheart?

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(SPEAK ENGLISH)

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(ENRIC) Look at that.

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Catalan Butifarra sausage.

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Thank you.

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(SPEAK ENGLISH)

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The number.

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(SPEAK ENGLISH)

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(E) I have already told you,

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was going around all day
sabotage actions all day long.

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I was followed by the SS...

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(SPEAKS ENGLISH)

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(E) No, Kiel, I'm not going to know
know where I came from.

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(SPEAK ENGLISH)

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And are you sure that it really
happened as you have told it?

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(E) Sure.

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Pons Prades' book
tells it differently.

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(E) The book
by Pons Prades, 30 years ago,

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the book by Pons Prades.
That book is nonsense,

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is full of errors.

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(Water running)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

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(LAUGHING)

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(Bustle)

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Happy New Year!

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(APPLAUDING AND CELEBRATING)

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Incredible how little young people know
young people know about the fields

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concentration, that's true.

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Look, notice that a student
believed that a crematorium oven

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was something that is used
in bakeries. (LAUGHS)

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No, no, the teacher
didn't know where to put herself.

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Trying to explain
that a cream oven

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is not the same
as a crematorium oven.

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(E) Incredible
how little idea they have.

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In addition,
teachers, wherever you go,

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you get
with "Life is beautiful", right?

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I think children,
the only thing they know

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children of the holocaust

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is because of this little movie.
Man, it's not a little movie either, is it?

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I think it's very good.
(E) It's very good, he says.

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Don't you realize
what a manipulation this is?

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It seems unbelievable how you can
play with feelings

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of the deportees in this manner.

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Benigni this,
cloying, let them believe it.

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My uncle also liked it.
(E) Gooey, huh?

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How? Not your uncle. Not your uncle.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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He saw himself reflected in her.

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(LAUGHING)

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Totally.

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No.

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(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

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(E) Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

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And Zapatero is going to be there, right?

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(E) It seems so. Very important.

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The first time
something like this has been done

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in the Congress of Deputies.

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Who would have
a few years ago?

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(E) Yes.

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I want some nougat.

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(E) Come on.
Eat some nougat.

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(THEY SPEAK AT THE SAME TIME)

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(E) Please
to eat nougat.

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(Phone)

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Yes, tell me.

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Yes, on whose behalf?

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Just a moment, please.

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(KNOCKS ON DOOR)

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For you, Enric.

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(E) What?

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Bermejo told me. I don't know if...

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(E) Who?
A historian.

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(E) Tell him I am not here.

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I told him
that you are at home, Enric.

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(E) Tell him I'm not here.
That you are confused.

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Forgive me. I thought you were
at home, but I went out.

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Can I leave a message for you?

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Yes. 91...

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(BENITO) Enric Marco,
right? How are you? I'm Benito Bermejo.

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(E) Ah, nice to meet you.
(B) I was looking forward to meeting you.

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I have read
that you were in Flossenbürg, right?

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(E) Yes.
(B) Very few Spaniards

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deported to Flossenbürg.
(E) That would be 50.

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(B) No, no, 140.
I am a historian,

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I am specialized
in deportation.

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(E) Ah, well, hey.

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(B) In fact, Enric,
if you have the time,

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I would love to
to chat with you for a while.

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I am curious
to tell me your story.

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) Do one thing. Why don't you
call the association one day

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and we meet and talk
at length?

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It's a crazy day.
(B) Okay, that's great.

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(B) Nothing, I'll call you then.

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(E) Please, please.
(B) Thank you very much. Thank you.

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See you soon.

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(E) What did you say
your name was...?

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(B) Benito. Benito Bermejo.

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First thing this morning

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arrived at the Congress of Deputies
of Deputies the delegation

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of the Spanish deportation
during World War II.

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Men and women who have experienced
in their own flesh the hell

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of the Nazi concentration camps.
concentration camps.

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Today, for the first time in 60 years,
these surviving Spaniards

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will receive recognition
by the authorities

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of our country.

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(Bustle)

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Relax.

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(E) Yeah. Calm down.

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Enric.

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) We were drowning
in our vomit

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and our own feces.

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After that...

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We arrived at a concentration camp
concentration camp

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with all that coven
and that stage performance

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to which
the Nazis were so fond of.

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Dazzled by the spotlights,
bitten by dogs,

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assaulted by a people
in a language we did not know.

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What did we know
about "links" or "rechs" or...?

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What did we know
we knew about all that.

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The unfamiliarity
of a few German words

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could cost you your life.

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They absolutely stripped us naked,

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they took away
all our belongings,

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not only
for reasons of rapacity,

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but for leaving us
totally unprotected.

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The alliance, the chain,

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the slightest photograph,
alone, unprotected.

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And nothing, nothing that could
remind you of the outside,

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nothing that could
remind you of someone's tenderness

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that allowed you
to go on living in hope

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that you would never get back.

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And then...

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Then, what was the after,

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you can imagine.

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I am not going to make
a protocol speech,

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perhaps
my words are not so heartfelt.

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We did not have a government
government to help us in a country

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to which the Jewish people return...

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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Sorry, look, Enric,

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I would like to introduce
Bernardino León,

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Secretary of State
of Foreign Affairs.

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Pleased to meet you.
You gave a great speech.

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(E) Man,
coming from you, your honor.

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Mr. León was telling me
that they are very sensitive

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with our theme, right?
-No doubt.

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And I wanted to tell you
in this regard that the new government

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wants to place special emphasis on

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in what we call
historical memory.

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(E) Well, you have not started
off on the right foot.

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We are disappointed
because we expected

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that President Zapatero
was here today.

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The president
is very sorry he could not be present

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here today
because it is in Chile.

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But rest assured
that this whole subject

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is not indifferent to it.

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(E) Well, I don't know if you know
that this year is the 60th anniversary

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of the liberation
of the Mauthausen camps.

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Of course, the field of the Spanish.

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(E) And we are going to do something big
with our French colleagues,

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exhibitions, lectures.

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About 30,000 deportees are expected to attend
about 30,000 deportees

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and family members from all over the world.

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We are trying to see
if it can be that for the first time

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Spain presides over the event.
(E) We want Zapatero to come.

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Well, José Luis has
a very busy schedule.

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(E) It is a great opportunity
for you to demonstrate

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who really cares about
about this whole historical memory thing.

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There are many people in this country

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who does not know that there were
many Spaniards in the camps

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Nazi concentration camps.

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Let's do one thing.

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I get Spain to preside
to preside over the events this year

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and you convince
Zapatero to come.

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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Can I have a coffee, please?
-Yes, of course.

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Enric, I'm going to work.
(E) Okay.

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I have left food for you.

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Are you going to be okay?

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(E) Yes.

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See you later.

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Benito Bermejo?
(B) "Yes, it's me."

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(E) Hello, how are you? Enric Marco.

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I have heard rumors that you have
doubts about my past.

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(B) "Yes, hello, Enric, that's right."

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(E) Let me speak to me first.

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I know you're digging around,
which is fine with me,

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is what historians
have to do.

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And I wanted to tell you
that I am ready

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to clarify any doubts you may have.

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But beyond this,
all this has led me to think

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that perhaps from the association

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we haven't behaved
not been entirely good to you.

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(B) "No, no..."
(E) Perhaps we have not granted you

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the place you deserve,
right? And in that sense...

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I feel a mea culpa.

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(B) "No, no, no,
Enric, really.

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I have nothing
to blame the association for."

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(E) I do, I do.

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(B) "What I can
tell you right now

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is that the best thing
you and I can do

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is to meet as soon as possible and talk.

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You see, Enric, I have found
sensitive information about you."

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(E) How?

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(B) "I know you are lying.

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I know he did not travel
forcibly to Germany."

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(E) On what basis do you
to say that?

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(B) "Well, I base
on a report I have found

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and that proves
that you traveled to Germany

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within the framework
of a collaboration agreement

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between Franco and Hitler,
between Spain and Germany."

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(E) I don't know
what agreement you are talking about.

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(B) "I think
that you do know, Enric."

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(E) You are making a mistake,
Benito, that's for sure.

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And in any case,
these things are best done face to face,

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in a chat, quietly,
over a cup of coffee.

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(B) "Yes, yes, I totally agree, Enric.
totally agree, Enric.

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Look, next week,
in fact, I have to travel

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to Barcelona to give
a talk. If you want to..."

252
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(E) I can't next week.

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But I intend to go to Madrid
to go to Madrid at the end of the month,

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maybe we can meet
and work it all out.

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(B) "Yeah, well, that."

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(E) Until then
I would ask you not to spread things

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that are not true.
(B) "Enric, I just..."

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(E) (HANG UP)

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(ALL) Amnesty! Freedom!
Amnesty! Freedom!

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(ALL) Amnesty! Freedom!

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(ALL) Amnesty! Freedom!

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(ALL) They shall not pass!
They shall not pass! They shall not pass!

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(ALL) They won't get through! They won't get through!
They shall not pass! They shall not pass!

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(JADEA)

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Thank you.

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(E) Ferran.

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Enrique.

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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Well, as you can see,

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today we have brought
comrade Enrique here today

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to tell us
a little bit of his story.

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He is going to tell us
a little bit about his experience

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in the underground.

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In fact, he was recently
recently been released from prison.

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In fact, Enrique told us

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who has suffered harsh interrogations
interrogations, including torture.

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So you have a lot to tell us.

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) Well...

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Let's see,
you do not perceive it that way

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because you have not lived anything else.

283
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,960
But we live under
an implacable dictatorship.

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Have you heard
heard of UJA?

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Of course, of course.

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UJA, Union
of Antifascist Youth.

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We created it after the war

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to fight
against Franco from within.

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I myself set up
the Barcelona section

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recruiting people here and there.

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A few months go by,

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we were detained
all of us, except me,

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because I was late,
because I was coming from one of my appointments.

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(LAUGHING)

295
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000
What happened
is that at that time

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I had to flee the country,
I had to leave Spain.

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And how did you get out of the country?

298
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(E) Now that
that is a long story.

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Well, anyway, I'll tell you about it,

300
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but in any case
I ended up in Germany,

301
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where I was imprisoned
for high treason.

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00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,640
Anyway, but my time in Germany
in Germany were not exactly

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a vacation.

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Some of us have lived through
more than one war.

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

306
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,720
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

307
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,520
See you later.
- See you later.

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00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,800
Yes, of course.

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(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

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(E) Do you know
how many Jews they managed to kill?

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6.000.000.
But how is that going to be?

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6,000,000 or two-thirds
of the Jews of all Europe.

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Many Spaniards died.
People need to know this.

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Nothing, you go about your business.

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(E) (WHISPERING)
People need to know this.

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00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Come on, in 15 minutes
Tata and Jose will be up.

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You will see what you do,

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00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,720
but today
I do not run out of hot water.

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(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

320
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320
And how do they look at you?

321
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,560
(E) Envy.

322
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,440
But what are they going to envy you?
If they are loaded with money.

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,560
(E) I believe
that they feel guilty

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because their parents
have done well with Franco.

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00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,920
They would kill to be what I am.
Oh yeah? And what are you?

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(E) A fighter.

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A fighter!

328
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,080
A ghost,
that's what you are.

329
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,200
I haven't seen
that you have done anything

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against Franco.
(E) What do you know.

331
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Mommy!
-I'm coming, I'm coming, Carmencita.

332
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Come on, get dressed.

333
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:59,120
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

334
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:14,160
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

335
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,760
(E) It is not easy.

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Enric.

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,400
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

338
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,720
"If I tell them yes
and then it doesn't come,

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we make fools of ourselves."

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00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080
(E) Yes, Silvia, look,
you tell the organizers

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that Zapatero will come
and that being so,

342
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
this year, it is expected that this year
will be the Spanish delegation

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Who presides over the proceedings.
"But what if then he doesn't come?"

344
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,680
(E) Silvia, listen to me.

345
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,840
Listen to me carefully.

346
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Zapatero is coming.

347
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,400
I can tell you no more.

348
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,840
You understand me, don't you?

349
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,360
(SIGHS) "It's okay.

350
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,960
I'm going to talk to them
and I'll let you know if we make it."

351
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,240
(E) Very well, thank you.
"To you."

352
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,280
Another thing, the talks
in high schools.

353
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,240
There are two, Badalona and Cervelló.

354
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,320
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

355
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,080
(E) Cervelló and I'm going,
that was last year

356
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920
and they were
very happy, I know.

357
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,760
I'd rather you stay with me

358
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,720
to prepare
the dossier, let Pere go,

359
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520
who has nothing to do.
(E) I can do both.

360
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Man,
I'm here doing nothing.

361
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,080
I am free.

362
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600
(E) When he wants to, he hears well.

363
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,520
In principle, let Pere go.

364
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,720
Ready.

365
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,720
Are you still here?

366
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,920
(E) I am writing
a press release,

367
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560
in case Silvia gives us
good news from Mauthausen.

368
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,760
But there will be time.

369
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,720
Go home,
you've been here all day.

370
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,800
(E) No, it doesn't matter.

371
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,600
If you want
me to go to the schools,

372
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,720
you just have to say...
Again with that.

373
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,720
(E) Sure, sure.
Let's see, let's see, between you and me.

374
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,240
Let's see.

375
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Pere, without a doubt,
is a great person

376
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,480
and I have infinite respect for him,

377
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,560
but, frankly,
have you heard him speak?

378
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,400
Did you hear his speech?

379
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Bored to tears.

380
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360
I'm sorry to be so crude,
but that people go out

381
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,280
disappointed, that is unforgivable,

382
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,640
with the history it has.

383
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,160
I have been president of the
president of the association

384
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,560
and I have the feeling that...
You get very involved.

385
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
We have never had
as much visibility as we do now.

386
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,120
That's thanks to you.
But the health that...

387
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,600
(Phone)

388
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,880
(E) Yes, tell me.

389
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Yes, it's me.

390
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Tell me, Silvia.

391
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Can you confirm this
confirm this 100%?

392
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,400
Thank you very much.

393
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Yes.
(E) Please.

394
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,600
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

395
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400
For the first time in history,

396
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,880
the Spanish deportees
have been elected to preside

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00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,680
commemorative events

398
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,560
of the liberation
of the Mauthausen camp.

399
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,960
The news
came as a surprise two days ago

400
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,880
to this local
located in a central neighborhood

401
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,280
of Barcelona.
Everyone here is trying to digest

402
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,720
what they consider to be

403
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,400
the best news
they could receive.

404
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Isn't that right, Clara?

405
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000
How did you feel when you learned
that the Spanish deportees

406
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,840
were going to preside over nothing more
and nothing less than these events?

407
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Well, the first thing I felt
was the feeling of...

408
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,040
Well, from a sense of
of honor

409
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,760
and also
of great responsibility,

410
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640
is going to be
the whole world watching us

411
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,200
and we have to do it very well

412
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,320
For the... For the Nazi horror

413
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,320
of all the...
Those who were there,

414
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480
of all the Spaniards
who were there.

415
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Okay. Very good.

416
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,040
We got it.
-Haven't I been too tense?

417
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Yes, I mean, you've done phenomenally well.

418
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,320
(E) Excuse me,
isn't it going to look a little fake?

419
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,960
No, you edit this later
and it's super-credible, really.

420
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Shall we do some recursions or something?
-Come on.

421
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,360
"And we have to do it well
for all Spaniards

422
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,200
who suffered the Nazi horror.

423
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,920
Enric Marco,
president of the Association

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00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,800
of Deportees
and representative of all of them,

425
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,680
is especially
especially touched by this achievement.

426
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,280
(E) It will be a great speaker,
but one thing must be made clear.

427
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Be the president
of the greatest nations

428
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,800
or a child who goes
to a small neighborhood school,

429
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,680
the passion we put into
we put into transmitting

430
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,520
our story is the same."

431
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,400
What a sentence...

432
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,440
"It is impossible not to shudder
at the stories that Enric Marco

433
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,920
tells us.

434
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,800
Like that game of chess
that could have changed his life.

435
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,520
(E) I was teaching
to play to a colleague

436
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
when suddenly
I saw a shadow on the board.

437
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,640
I looked up and saw an SS."

438
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,000
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

439
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,840
(E) "In fact,
my partner sat down

440
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680
and told me
to keep playing.

441
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,040
And I remember
that at the time, I thought:

442
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,960
Now is the
the time of the gods'.

443
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,360
I was winning
one by one all the pieces.

444
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,440
He was no match for me.

445
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,280
Until finally
I left him alone with the king.

446
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,200
And I knocked down
the king truly knowing

447
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,640
that it could cost me my life
my life, but that was the moment

448
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,400
I regained my dignity."

449
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,440
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

450
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,240
That day I regained dignity.

451
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,880
I won the battle of Stalingrad.

452
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,560
What stories.

453
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Well, just to finish.

454
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,680
What would be the profile of
of the Spanish deportees

455
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,440
who were imprisoned there
in Mauthausen, for example?

456
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,160
How? parsley?
(E) The profile.

457
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,360
The profile of deportees.

458
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Frankly,
you can't understand

459
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
because, frankly,
it's a long way off, but...

460
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,720
(E) Yes, where is this going to come out?

461
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,600
This is for the Bajo Aragón
of Lower Aragon.

462
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,120
(E) Very good.

463
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Yes, but you have not published
that Spain will preside over the events

464
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,680
for the first time.
In May, when the events will be held,

465
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,520
We will certainly talk about it.

466
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,240
(E) (SIGHS)

467
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,600
I see that things don't change.

468
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,840
Then you will come
that "at last we give you

469
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,600
the place you deserve".
and so on and so on and so on.

470
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,920
Do I have to kill someone

471
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,760
so that you will listen to me?
Let's see, Enric,

472
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,920
you can't pretend
to be there every day

473
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,040
in the media.

474
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,680
(Mobile)

475
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,920
(E) Yes, tell me.
"Enric Marco?"

476
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,800
(E) Yes.
"One moment, please.

477
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,680
I'll put you through to Mr. Leon."

478
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,960
"Enric?
Hello, I'm Bernardino León."

479
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040
(E) Yes,
when the secretary told me

480
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080
"I didn't know whether to expect a roar,
I didn't know whether to expect a roar.

481
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,920
(LAUGHS) "I am the one from Congress".
(E) Yes, yes, I was kidding.

482
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,760
Yes, well, you've got us on tenterhooks.

483
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,240
What's new?

484
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,960
"Yes, the president
will gladly attend the event.

485
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Right now
you symbolize all that

486
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,120
what our government wants to fight for.
our government wants to fight for."

487
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,640
(E) Do you really mean it?
"Listen to me, Enric.

488
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,920
We want it to have
the projection it deserves."

489
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,160
(E) Clara! Santi!
Congratulations.

490
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,960
For the association.
-For all.

491
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
I wouldn't give a penny, huh?
I also tell you.

492
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000
The only one who had it
clear, from the beginning.

493
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,840
We have to get to work,

494
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,840
that time is running out
time is running out.

495
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,280
First of all,
you have to decide who is going to give

496
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,760
the speech at Mauthausen.

497
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,920
(E) Me as you wish.

498
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,560
Well, I think you are
the right person, Enric.

499
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920
You know Mauthausen,
you are in the International Committee.

500
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,560
In addition, he has already
speech in Congress.

501
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,840
For me it is you, Enric.
(E) Me as you wish.

502
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480
If you want me to do it,
I'll be happy to do it.

503
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,600
Let's see, frankly,

504
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,800
I think it's much better
someone else to do it

505
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,520
who has been
in Mauthausen, not in another camp.

506
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,040
And who do you propose?
-Eusebi Pérez.

507
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,280
He's a good candidate, isn't he?
-Ah, Eusebi. Eusebi, yes.

508
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,680
(E) Sure, Eusebi.
Yes, it is very good.

509
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,280
Eusebi is doing very well.

510
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,480
A great person, he has suffered a lot
and deserves it, without a doubt.

511
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Of course it is.

512
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,840
A speaker...

513
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Not someone who
who has a way with words

514
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
and I don't know if we would be missing
an opportunity to launch

515
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,080
a strong message.
That is to say, truly

516
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,040
other factors
other factors must be taken into account,

517
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,680
not just to have been there.

518
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,960
Are you telling me
that it is of no importance

519
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,040
having been in Mauthausen?

520
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Having suffered and witnessed all the horrors
witnessed all the horrors

521
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,320
indescribable
that have been suffered there

522
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,320
It's not important?
-Pere, no, no...

523
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Is that what you are saying?
(E) No, no.

524
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,000
What I am saying is
that sometimes it is more important

525
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,000
how they tell it to you
than who tells it to you.

526
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,840
What's the use of having been there
if you don't know how to count it,

527
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
You do not know how to transmit, you do not move?

528
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960
But I say that...
I think we should take advantage

529
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,400
that we are going to have
all the media on our side.

530
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,320
In this area,
Enric moves very well.

531
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,240
Besides, I don't think there is
that much difference between Mauthausen

532
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,360
or Flossenbürg.
-I also vote for Enric.

533
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,800
I think it's the best.

534
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
(E) In this case,
I will start preparing the speech.

535
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
I want
it to be a consensual speech.

536
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,280
This is not Enric Marco speaking.

537
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,840
There are about 9000 Spanish deportees
who speak through their mouths

538
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,360
by Enric Marco.
Let that be clear.

539
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,960
How beautiful it is!

540
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,920
But how can it be so precious?

541
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,360
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

542
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,320
Oh, how precious!

543
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,160
He laughed.
-Yes.

544
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:13,240
Go to your grandmother.

545
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Let's see, let's see,
let's see, let's see, with grandma.

546
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,040
(CRIES)

547
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,920
It's a good thing
you didn't give birth at home.

548
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,000
(E) Much better, and I am telling you that
someone who was born in the asylum.

549
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,560
April 14, 1921,

550
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,280
10 years before
before the arrival of the republic.

551
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,280
My mother was admitted
seven months pregnant,

552
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,920
in Sant Boi and never left again.

553
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Enric, for God's sake,
that the protagonist today

554
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,160
is the child.

555
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Really.

556
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,640
Enric. Enric.

557
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,440
(E) Look how he moves his little hand.
Look how he came out as a communist.

558
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,520
(LAUGHING)

559
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,720
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

560
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,720
Enric.

561
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,920
I have already finished proofreading.

562
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,320
Shall we have dinner?

563
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,280
(E) Yes.

564
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,880
A speech?

565
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:03,240
(E) An outline.

566
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,640
A little too solemn, isn't it?

567
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,680
A little bit theatrical.

568
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,240
(E) What do you mean?

569
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,360
Well, you tend to embellish
the stories a little bit, don't you?

570
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,200
(E) Ah, that's good, isn't it?

571
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,080
Come on, let's go to dinner.

572
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,400
(E) Laura,

573
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,080
How did you see Aina?

574
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,840
Okay. Why?
(E) I don't know.

575
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,120
All this talk of postpartum
about postpartum depression...

576
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,160
She has just given birth, Enric.

577
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,960
(E) I am afraid it will fall again.

578
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,280
But he is perfectly fine.
He is stronger than ever.

579
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,560
We have a beautiful grandson.

580
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,680
We are doing well.

581
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,160
(E) Yes, right? I'm afraid of
things in my head.

582
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Well, don't make
stories where there are none.

583
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,320
Come on, let's go to dinner.

584
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Here. We hit it here. Hello.

585
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,560
(E) You are here...

586
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,800
Can you take
the fax, please?

587
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,080
Here. Now, you hit it there.

588
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,640
What is it?
(E) No, propaganda.

589
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,840
Propaganda?

590
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,120
By fax?

591
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,360
Here.

592
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
(E) It has cost us
to get here,

593
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,880
possibly more
than the deportees

594
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,240
from any other country.
we would like to thank

595
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,280
President Rodríguez Zapatero,
I will still name him,

596
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,840
José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero,
a president who a few months ago

597
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,600
restored peace in Spain

598
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,640
by withdrawing troops from the
from the Iraq war.

599
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,600
We Spaniards were the first to enter Mauthausen.
to enter Mauthausen.

600
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,720
Enric... Are you sure?

601
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,240
Are you going to get involved
in the Iraq issue?

602
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Do you think that will matter to those
to those gathered there?

603
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Benito Bermejo on the phone.

604
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,200
(E) Tell him I can't.
Enric, he has called several times.

605
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,680
I don't know what to say to him anymore.
-Bermejo the historian?

606
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Yes.
-Enric, you're going to call back, huh?

607
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,920
I mean, what do you want me to do?
Because I don't know what to say to him.

608
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,760
(DISCUSS)

609
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,120
(E) Because I can't!

610
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Tell him we can't now.
Tell him I'll call him later.

611
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Do me a favor, Santi.

612
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,200
You were saying?

613
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,960
We were deviating
from what is historical memory

614
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,080
to enter into a subject
that I do not know if it is relevant.

615
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,280
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

616
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,320
(E) (JADEA)

617
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,360
(B) "Yes?"
(E) Enric Marco.

618
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,440
(B) "Hello, Enric."

619
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,560
(E) I haven't called you until now
because we have a lot of work to do.

620
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,360
But I want you to know that I have
no problem talking to you.

621
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,640
What happens is
that just now that we know

622
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,400
what is going to happen
in Mauthausen

623
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,840
with the presence
of the President of the Government,

624
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,600
with Rodríguez Zapatero and others,

625
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,920
understand that we have to focus on that.
that we have to focus on that.

626
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,320
(B) And are you going to give the speech?

627
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,960
(E) If my colleagues
my colleagues, yes. Why?

628
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,280
(B) "Don't do it,
Enric, please.

629
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,160
If it does, the consequences
can be dire."

630
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,760
(E) Is that a threat?

631
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,720
(B) "Look, you take it
as you wish.

632
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,760
I only tell you
that either we meet

633
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,680
immediately
or I won't have any left..."

634
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,360
(E) Benito,
what are you looking for?

635
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,200
To be the great historian,
everyone talking about you?

636
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,560
the great historian
Benito Bermejo discovered

637
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,640
that Enric Marco
did not go to Germany this way,

638
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:26,840
but on this other side.

639
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,480
(B) "But what are you saying?"

640
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,600
(E) Are you willing to besmirch
the good name of the association

641
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,280
for your five minutes of glory?

642
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Just now,
when the deportees

643
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,720
are about to get
the tribute they deserve?

644
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Is that it? Do you know
the damage you would do, not just to me,

645
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,560
but to all deportees?
of the deportees?

646
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,200
(E) "Don't go off
off on a tangent,

647
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,080
it's not about me
or the deportees,

648
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,760
this is about you,
by Enric Marco

649
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,680
and what Enric Marco
is doing."

650
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,720
(E) This is very large
for the association

651
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,560
and for all of Spain.
Watch out, Benito,

652
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,080
be careful or you will regret it.

653
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,200
(B) How?

654
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,680
(E) (HANG UP)

655
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Enric Marco.

656
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,480
Enric Marco.

657
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,280
And the last one.

658
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,320
Enric Marco.

659
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,840
With 92 percent of the votes
of the votes, Enric Marco

660
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,240
will continue to be
the president of the association.

661
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:31,280
(APPLAUD)

662
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,480
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

663
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,400
(E) What's up? What's up? How's it going?

664
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,800
Is something wrong?

665
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Well, something seems to be happening, yes.

666
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,840
Santi has received
a report from Benito Bermejo.

667
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,800
(E) Again, right?

668
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,920
I just don't know
what to do with this man.

669
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,320
I don't know if it's about me anymore,
it's about the association...

670
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,000
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

671
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,080
I have read it.

672
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,840
Well, Santi,
now is not the time to talk about it.

673
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,320
Send me
the report when you get home.

674
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,280
We all meet tomorrow
afternoon at headquarters. Yes?

675
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,240
Very good.

676
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,200
(E) Good evening, Bernardino.

677
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Sorry to call you
on a Sunday at this hour.

678
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,680
(B) "Please, Enric.

679
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,080
I told you that you could
call me whenever you wanted.

680
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,680
How did the assembly go?"

681
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,880
(E) Good, good.
I have been elected president again.

682
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,360
(B) "Great. I'm glad."

683
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,480
(E) So, everything okay?

684
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,760
(B) "Yes, yes, yes.

685
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,600
But you called me.
Everything okay over there?"

686
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,720
(E) Yes, yes, fine.
With the last minute tensions,

687
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,120
but nothing
that can't be solved.

688
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
The day after tomorrow
we travel to Austria.

689
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,000
We have a meeting on Wednesday
to finalize the preparations.

690
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,960
(B) "Mm. Very good.

691
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,880
I will arrive
Wednesday night.

692
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,280
We will see you there.

693
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360
The president is
very excited about these events."

694
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,880
Apparently
they came looking for you at your house

695
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160
because you had not
to do your military service.

696
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,480
Your family said
that you were working

697
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,600
in Germany.

698
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,560
To check if this was true,
from the military region

699
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,360
of Barcelona
launched the consultation

700
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,240
to the Ministry of Foreign
of Foreign Affairs.

701
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,920
And here is the answer.

702
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,720
The ministry said yes,
that you did indeed offer

703
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,440
volunteer as labor.

704
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,120
And in case we don't realize
what this means,

705
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,760
Bermejo has attached some photos
of when they left for Germany.

706
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,880
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

707
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,120
The train left on November 27, 1941
1941 from the France station,

708
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,040
in Barcelona, with destination
to the city of Kiel, Germany.

709
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,040
Enric, is this so?

710
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,000
(E) (WHISPERING) Yes.

711
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,840
On board were
650 Spanish workers

712
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,960
that would be incorporated
as a labor force

713
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,200
in German companies.

714
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,360
In the middle of World War II.

715
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,080
These employees
would work manufacturing arsenal

716
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,360
for the Nazi army.
-Manufacturing weapons?

717
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,240
Fuck.
(E) May I speak? (E) It's true.

718
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,080
I went on that train,
but what could I do?

719
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,760
I had to leave the country.
The police were chasing me.

720
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,360
It was the best way
I found to leave the country.

721
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,720
But then,
why did I end up in Flossenbürg?

722
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,080
Because I rebelled.

723
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,080
Are you sure
you were in Flossenbürg?

724
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,040
(E) No, I don't allow that.

725
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,200
As it turned out, I wasn't in Flossenbürg
I wasn't in Flossenbürg either.

726
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Of course I was
in Flossenbürg. There you have it.

727
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,160
Deported 6448.

728
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,200
Bermejo's report does not
that Enric Enric was not

729
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,720
in Flossenbürg.
He just didn't go to Germany

730
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,800
as a deportee.

731
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,720
But who took this for granted?

732
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,600
This is nothing more
than a photocopy of the registry.

733
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,760
It is not the official
official certificate of the field.

734
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,280
(E) There's my name.

735
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,440
Why don't you have
an official certificate

736
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,080
like everybody else?
(E) There's my name. That's right.

737
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,120
I went as a volunteer worker
to Germany with Franco.

738
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,960
Yes, that's true, but why did I end up in Flossenbürg?
did I end up in Flossenbürg?

739
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,560
Because first
I was taken to prison in Kiel,

740
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,640
there was a trial
and I ended up in Flossenbürg.

741
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,720
That is the way it is. That's the way it is.

742
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,160
Why didn't you say so
from the beginning?

743
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,040
(E) I don't know.

744
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,120
N... I don't know.

745
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,680
People were waiting...
I had a reference in me.

746
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,600
They wanted someone
to give them strength

747
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,600
to fight
against Franco and I don't know how...

748
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,000
How is it going to be said
that he had volunteered

749
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,760
to Germany? Well, I lied.

750
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,240
And have I maintained
that lie to this day?

751
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,400
Well, yes, yes, and I regret it.

752
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,560
And now I am going to confess something else
that I didn't have to confess to you,

753
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,640
but you are
like family

754
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:38,400
and in you I can trust.

755
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:39,800
I had another woman

756
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,240
and a daughter and I abandoned them. (CRIES)

757
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,360
But please
don't tell Laura,

758
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,360
I want you to hear it through my mouth.

759
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,560
These lies weigh heavily on me,
but from there to say

760
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,800
that I was not imprisoned in Germany...

761
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,720
Well, of course I was
imprisoned in Germany and... (CRIES)

762
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,080
I believe it
I was imprisoned in Germany.

763
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,680
But hey, I failed you.

764
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,440
I regret it.
And I will never forgive myself.

765
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,800
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

766
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:15,720
Right, right.

767
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,720
That's it, that's it, that's it. (SIGHS)

768
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,840
We are done.

769
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,360
And no more lies, that's it.

770
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,760
Do we know who else
received this report?

771
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,920
Yes, he told me he was going to send it
to the Presidency of the Government,

772
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,560
to the Generalitat
and other deportees.

773
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,760
So we have to
to talk to the government

774
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,920
and with the Generalitat.

775
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000
And if they had not
received the report, right?

776
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,080
What do you mean?

777
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,240
You just said
we can talk to them

778
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,720
because they received the report.
If not, we would still be

779
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,080
with Enric's lie?
-I didn't mean that.

780
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,840
You just said it.
-No, don't mess with me.

781
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,800
You just said it.
-I didn't mean that.

782
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,240
You said.
-Hey, Santi,

783
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,920
This is too big for us.

784
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,040
To all.

785
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:08,280
I am trying
to see what we can do.

786
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,400
I am not an expert.

787
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,320
Do you know what we have to do?
to do? You tell me.

788
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,600
Everything is ready.
Zapatero is going to be there.

789
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,680
What do we do?

790
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,360
It is a priority that nothing
to cloud the celebrations.

791
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,680
I think that, for the time being,
even if we don't say anything,

792
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,800
Enric cannot
continue as president.

793
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,600
Pere is right.

794
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,320
Let's vote.

795
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,480
Votes in favor
of relieving Enric of his position.

796
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,560
Enric, you are relegated
of all your functions

797
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,400
as president of the association.

798
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,600
As vice-president, I will assume
I will take over the functions for the time being,

799
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,680
Do you agree?

800
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,280
Tomorrow we call the presidency

801
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,680
and the Generalitat
and let's see what they think.

802
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,600
Give me the telephone number
of Bernardino León, please.

803
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,320
(E) No, let me
me to call him, please.

804
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,960
Come on, Enric, now. Give me the phone.

805
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Hello.
(E) Hello.

806
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,800
I am making omelet.

807
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,040
Oops.

808
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,720
What's wrong with you?

809
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,400
(E) Nothing.

810
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,760
Are you ok?

811
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,880
(WHISPERING) Everything is going to be fine.

812
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,600
Come on, help me.

813
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,120
Come in, come in.

814
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,240
(E) Hi, what's up?
How are you? Good morning.

815
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,720
But you come to Mauthausen?

816
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,040
(E) Of course.
Didn't you have to come or what?

817
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,640
I thought yesterday
we had agreed not to.

818
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,000
(E) That he was not president,

819
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,200
but not
that he didn't have to come, right?

820
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,600
One second.

821
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,520
Hi. What's up?
-How was your trip?

822
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,480
We are in a hurry.
We are in a hurry, the meeting

823
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,840
of the International Committee
starts in one hour.

824
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,360
(E) Come on, let's go there.
No, Enric, you are not coming.

825
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,760
You'd better stay
in your hotel room.

826
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,760
They are having
meetings in Barcelona.

827
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,680
When we have
something you need to know,

828
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,240
we will inform you. Let's go.

829
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,520
(Ringing tone)

830
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,680
(E) Bernardino, what's up?
How are you? I am Enric Marco.

831
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,840
You will see that you have
several calls from me.

832
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,600
I'm calling you from Linz.

833
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,760
Some of us from the association
are already here,

834
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,440
at the hotel in Linz.

835
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,320
I seem to remember
you said you were arriving today.

836
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,120
Well, call me when you can.
I have something to tell you.

837
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,560
My room was 312.

838
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:54,360
(SPEAK GERMAN)

839
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,680
(SPEAK ENGLISH)

840
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:09,720
(SPEAK ENGLISH)

841
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,680
(E) Let's go.

842
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,800
Good.

843
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,600
Enjoy.

844
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,600
(E) Thank you.
You are welcome.

845
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,400
(E) Have you been down for a while?

846
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:13,840
Half an hour ago.

847
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,320
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

848
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:22,640
A while ago,
on the afternoon flight.

849
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,320
(E) How did the meeting go?

850
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,320
We were right
in deciding not to come.

851
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:39,640
They knew about you.

852
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,640
(E) Who leaked it?

853
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,440
We have not been there.

854
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,440
(E) Are you sure?

855
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,560
Enric, it must have been Bermejo.
But that doesn't matter now.

856
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,080
(E) I don't care.

857
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,920
I've been in the room alone
in the room alone, blind.

858
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,840
Nobody tells me anything,
nobody picks up my phone.

859
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:02,040
Can you tell me something?

860
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,440
In Barcelona they have been
talking to the Generalitat

861
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,520
and with the government
and all are in agreement

862
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,720
with the fact that right now the essential thing
is to save the Mauthausen acts.

863
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,400
So for the time being
nothing will be said for the time being.

864
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:23,520
(E) Okay.

865
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,720
They have decided to remove you from everything
related to the events.

866
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,360
So you're out.

867
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,040
(E) And who is going to give the speech?

868
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:34,840
Eusebi Pérez.

869
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,120
(E) If I bother, I leave.

870
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,760
If I'm here bothering you,
I get my stuff and...

871
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,720
Enric, don't go there.

872
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,040
Enric, were you in Flossenbürg?

873
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,440
(E) Again with that, please.
Can you provide evidence?

874
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,080
Real proof that you were in Flossenbürg
that you were in Flossenbürg?

875
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,800
Yes or no.
(E) When I get home,

876
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,000
I will manage
to get the evidence.

877
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,520
No, it has to be today.

878
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,640
Zapatero's team has said
that if all this is not cleared up

879
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,640
with all the guarantees, Zapatero
will not appear at the event.

880
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,720
So new opportunity, Enric.

881
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,960
Were you in Flossenbürg?
(E) Fucking yes!

882
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,120
Forgive me, I don't know how to say it.

883
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,560
This is harassment
and demolition, it seems to me.

884
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,560
We have sent
your registration photocopy

885
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,840
to the Flossenbürg camp.

886
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,760
Yes, we have asked them if, as the photocopy
and as indicated in the photocopy,

887
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,920
the prisoner number, 6448,
corresponds to Enric Marco.

888
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,920
We are waiting for a response.

889
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,880
You will be able to
confirm it, Enric.

890
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:58,120
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

891
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,480
(E) No.

892
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:25,120
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

893
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,080
Pere, take it easy.

894
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:28,920
Be calm?

895
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,360
He has been on the verge of making
some speech on our behalf.

896
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,560
Do you understand?

897
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:01,720
(SPEAK ENGLISH)

898
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,560
Gracia, come with me.
-Yes, I'm coming.

899
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,720
Where are you going, Enric?
(E) I have to talk to him.

900
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,200
No, no, no, Enric.
(E) Please, let me.

901
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,320
Enric, you're not going. Sit down.

902
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,320
He said he doesn't want to see you.

903
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,040
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

904
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:52,200
(CRIES)

905
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,440
Enric?

906
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,840
Well, what are you doing here?
(E) I don't feel well.

907
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,120
The doctor told me
that I have to rest.

908
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,080
What doctor?
(E) I'm going to get into bed.

909
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:00,680
How?

910
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,400
Enric?

911
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:03,600
(E) Leave me alone.

912
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,560
"I bow with my respect

913
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,200
in the name
of all the Spanish people.

914
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,160
This is the first time
that a representative

915
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,800
of the Government
attends a tribute of this kind.

916
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,840
Enric Marco, president of the
president of the Association

917
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,520
of Spanish Deportees,
to speak alongside Zapatero,

918
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,000
but he has returned
to Barcelona suddenly

919
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,600
because he was indisposed.

920
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,280
In his place
Eusebi Pérez spoke,

921
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,440
one of the deportees
who lived in his own flesh

922
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,520
Nazi barbarism.

923
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:46,160
We Spaniards were the first to enter
to enter Mauthausen

924
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,800
and the last to leave,

925
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:51,760
because no country claimed us.

926
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,160
No one recognized our history

927
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,400
while we saw
that in one country and in another

928
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,680
honored
and entertained the survivors

929
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,400
concentration camps.

930
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,640
5000 of them
never left here.

931
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:11,960
For them
enrollment was completed

932
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,000
that was on this door,
a quote from Dante's Inferno.

933
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,200
'Ye who enter,
leave here all hope'.

934
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,760
At least 20 people have been killed
and 25 others have been injured

935
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,960
after the explosion
a car explosion in a neighborhood..."

936
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,880
"I, Enric Marco Batlle,

937
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,520
I would like to acknowledge
the following points.

938
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:10,080
One, to have left
to Germany on an expedition

939
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,240
of Spanish workers
at the end of 1941..."

940
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,080
"Let's talk about
now about a lie,

941
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,600
that of Enric Marco, the president
of the main association..."

942
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,040
"Two, not having been
in the camp of Flossenbürg

943
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,440
despite having been imprisoned on remand
preventive imprisonment

944
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,400
and under the accusation
of conspiracy

945
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:27,800
Against the Third Reich."

946
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,440
"... Tributes to the victims
of the Nazi Holocaust."

947
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,560
"How has he fooled
so many people for so many years?"

948
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,120
"A terrible lie.
-It was all made up.

949
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,840
It was all a sham."

950
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:43,040
"Three, having returned
to Spain at the beginning of 1943

951
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,200
After being released."

952
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,240
"For 30 years,
he has lectured,

953
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,680
has even written..."

954
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,800
"Four, to have made public
my biography with aspects

955
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,160
that distort
reality in 1978,

956
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,960
long before my involvement with the
to the Association of Deportees,

957
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,840
which is limited
to the last six years."

958
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:09,680
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

959
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,920
He says he lied to better convey
better convey the horror of the Holocaust.

960
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,800
(RADIO) "The lie was
confessed by Marco himself

961
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,800
after a historian noted the incongruities
historian noticed the incongruities

962
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,200
of his testimony.
Historian Benito Bermejo

963
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,360
has not yet wanted to
to make a statement..."

964
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:26,440
From the association
we want to make clear

965
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,440
that this case should not cloud
the work we are doing.

966
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,040
Deportation
is far above deception

967
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,240
of a person, but it is evident

968
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,880
that the damage
this can do is enormous.

969
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,400
This is fodder
for the denialists.

970
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:45,360
(Phone)

971
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:46,640
"And five.

972
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,280
As a consequence,
I hereby resign from my positions

973
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,320
and I am suspending
my activities in the Association

974
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:58,080
Spanish Deportees.
On May 9, 2005 in Barcelona."

975
01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:37,240
(E) (BREATHE)

976
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,880
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

977
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:49,240
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

978
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,480
Daughter, hey, stop it.
-No, okay, no. Okay, no.

979
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,720
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

980
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:12,880
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

981
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,560
Calm down, please,
we're not going to fix anything this way.

982
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,600
No, it's just that I
I don't want to fix anything.

983
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,520
I just want him
to ask for forgiveness and that's it.

984
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,880
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

985
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,240
No one knows what I have suffered.

986
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:50,280
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)

987
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,560
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

988
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,320
What about you? You don't say anything, do you?

989
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,840
You are silent, as always,
looking aside every time

990
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,560
who lies.
(E) (SPEAKING IN CATALAN)

991
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,320
I knew something like this could happen.

992
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:14,200
I knew. That you believed
that you were fooling everyone

993
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,880
and what you didn't know is that they
were cheating on you,

994
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,880
making you believe
they believed it all.

995
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,320
What do you think?
we don't sense that there's more to it?

996
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,760
There are more things in your life.
-That's enough, Aina.

997
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,760
What do you think?
(E) Why? Why?

998
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,960
Do I say what I think?
-Aina, please.

999
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,760
Before you met mom,
what was your life like?

1000
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,680
Hey, shut up already. Shut up already!
(E) No, no, you tell me.

1001
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,640
No! (E) What do you want to know?
(E) What do you want to know?

1002
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,520
No! No! Why?

1003
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,280
Why?

1004
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,880
(CRIES)

1005
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:01,560
(CRIES)

1006
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,600
(E) All the shit
about Enric Marco.

1007
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,080
"We didn't go."

1008
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,320
I say, hey,
why did you believe me so much?

1009
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,000
You would have some interest
you would have in believing me so much.

1010
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,080
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

1011
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,680
Nothing was known.
I have started to make my way.

1012
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,560
I opened slowly
and I started to give voice

1013
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,080
to all these deportees.
I can't deny that.

1014
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,760
You just said: "Yes,
now here comes Enric Marco",

1015
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,520
and I'd walk in, "And he's been
in a concentration camp."

1016
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,000
They would all turn and look at you.

1017
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:41,640
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)

1018
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,000
They say, "Why were you doing it?"

1019
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,480
Y
what they can't get their heads around

1020
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,680
is that I did it purely
to do it, not to make money.

1021
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,840
I have never earned
a penny from it. Never.

1022
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,520
Who has not lied at some time?

1023
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,600
It's just that I find people
people are so funny to me.

1024
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,480
"Marco has lied,
Marco has lied."

1025
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,800
Take a look inside,
look inside yourselves a little.

1026
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,000
If they want me
to continue giving talks,

1027
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,720
I don't know if they will want to,
but if they want to,

1028
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,640
I am delighted.
I'll tell you something else,

1029
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,240
the talks would not vary much.

1030
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,880
And it seems that people
liked to listen to them.

1031
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,520
Thank you very much, Enric Marco.

1032
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,600
Thank you.

1033
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,840
(E) "Who has lied
more about Enric Marco?

1034
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,560
Enric Marco or the others?

1035
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,560
Every year a party,

1036
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,120
a flower, a souvenir,

1037
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,920
five minutes of speech
and if there is room, a new plaque.

1038
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,440
And until next year.

1039
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,360
Wouldn't asking for forgiveness make everyone
would everyone be more satisfied?

1040
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,520
Except me, of course."

1041
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,920
My God, this guy is crazy.

1042
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,160
"What the fuck do I have to apologize for?
I have to apologize for?

1043
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,640
Of the consequences?

1044
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,520
I do regret that.

1045
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:01,560
I do regret that.

1046
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:03,280
But apologize for what?

1047
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,160
What crime have I committed?

1048
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,680
What crime did I commit?

1049
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:09,920
I don't know.

1050
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,560
If that is what
what is expected of me,

1051
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,400
be forgiven and...

1052
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:15,480
Who knows?"

1053
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,200
Shame on you.
Shame on you.

1054
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,640
"Let him who can judge me judge me."

1055
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:20,720
What little shame.

1056
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,160
(E) I have been deceived.

1057
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,560
I have been deceived, I have been deceived.

1058
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,640
I should have said no.

1059
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:30,840
They have misrepresented everything.

1060
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,040
That's not me.

1061
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,520
I would say
it's pretty much you, mind you.

1062
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,280
(E) What?

1063
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,920
Don't you think it's about time
to stop, Enric?

1064
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,600
That's four years now.

1065
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,320
We have already forgiven you.

1066
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,440
What more do you want?

1067
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,640
(E) I can't leave it like this.

1068
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,640
I am like that,
What do you want me to tell you?

1069
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,000
I can't give up the fight.
What struggle?

1070
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,880
First came the anarchists,

1071
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,280
then the union,
then the deportees.

1072
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:13,840
What is your struggle now, Enric?

1073
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,440
"He is a man
who spends his life

1074
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,600
locked in a workshop
here in Hospitalet.

1075
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,200
And at the age of 50, when the
the Transition in Spain,

1076
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,400
and the whole world
reinvents itself, so does he.

1077
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:18,720
And he becomes
a war hero,

1078
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,400
into a hero
of the anti-Nazi resistance,

1079
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:24,480
into a hero
of Franco's resistance.

1080
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,200
(LAUGHS) He had done
absolutely none of that.

1081
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,520
And he lives a hero's life.

1082
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,280
Change your wife,
change jobs,

1083
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,520
changes the place where he lives, changes his name.
where he lives, he changes his name.

1084
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,240
He wants to be loved. Just like everyone else.

1085
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,280
Only he does it in a beastly fashion.

1086
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,680
But as far as I was going,
I knew there was something there

1087
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,000
I cared a lot about.

1088
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,200
That all books have a superficial theme
have a superficial theme

1089
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,640
and a deep theme.
Marco is the shallow subject."

1090
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:46,920
(E) What are you saying? Shut up.

1091
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,400
"In the end, he doesn't talk about
about Marco, he talks about other things.

1092
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:53,200
Marco is the instrument
that I use to talk about things

1093
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,680
that concern us all."
(E) Wretch. Faker.

1094
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,360
How you love the camera.

1095
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:00,320
Oh, how the camera turns them on.

1096
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,200
The eagerness
of protagonism that you have.

1097
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,880
"We are all
in some way phonies."

1098
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,840
(E) (DIAL THE PHONE)

1099
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,080
Aina.

1100
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:23,120
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

1101
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:04,520
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

1102
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:38,240
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

1103
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,440
(LAUGHING)

1104
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:44,920
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)

1105
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,760
(Doorbell)

1106
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:21,880
(E) Here. A sausage.

1107
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,680
I'll buy you a cup of coffee.

1108
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,160
Thank you.

1109
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,000
I was wrong about you.

1110
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,360
Now, with time,
I have come to realize

1111
01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:45,680
who has not tried to take advantage
to get the media spotlight.

1112
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,240
(B) What do you want, Enric?

1113
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,600
(E) Propose
to write a book.

1114
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,680
(B) Me? A book of what?

1115
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,840
(E) I have been
compiling documentation

1116
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:00,760
to tell
the truth about my life.

1117
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,800
I have here
the supporting document...

1118
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,480
Truly
I was a prisoner in the Kiel prison.

1119
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,800
I have the birth certificate

1120
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,720
that proves
that I was born in a madhouse.

1121
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,200
(B) How can I write a book about you?
a book about you?

1122
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,240
(E) Why do you say so?
Because of Cercas' book?

1123
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,240
I want to say,
a book written with rigor.

1124
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,080
You wrote
a solo book by Francesc Boix.

1125
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,760
(B) But Francesc Boix
is a deportee, a real one.

1126
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,920
He was in a concentration camp
in a concentration camp,

1127
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,280
photographed Mauthausen,
testified at Nuremberg...

1128
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,200
(E) I don't want to compare myself,

1129
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,880
but my life
perhaps it also deserves to be told.

1130
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,640
It cannot be that of Enric Marco
is only said that he was an impostor.

1131
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,200
No.

1132
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:47,640
(B) Let's see, Enric.

1133
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:49,960
I am a historian.

1134
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,920
I am specialized
in deportation.

1135
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,120
My job
is to seek the truth and tell it.

1136
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,880
I have no use for lies.

1137
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,840
(E) But through my lie
can tell the truth.

1138
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,320
I don't know if you understand.

1139
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,720
You can talk about
of the deportees through me.

1140
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,880
(E) I don't understand
what you want, Enric.

1141
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,200
(E) I have nothing else.

1142
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:15,960
(B) Do you have nothing else?

1143
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,120
But let's see,
don't you have anything else for what?

1144
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,840
To be published
in the newspapers again,

1145
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,080
to be rehabilitated?

1146
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:30,280
What for?

1147
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,320
(E) No.

1148
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:35,360
(B) I am very sorry, Enric.

1149
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:36,960
Really.

1150
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:43,920
(E) There are almost no deportees left.

1151
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,200
Think about it.

1152
01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:51,440
I will insist.

1153
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,040
No, no, no. Take this with you.

1154
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:00,880
(B) Thank you.