1 00:00:07,774 --> 00:00:09,543 Here we are. 2 00:00:17,251 --> 00:00:19,119 To be honest, when I read your letter, 3 00:00:19,219 --> 00:00:20,654 I couldn't read it without tears. 4 00:00:23,156 --> 00:00:26,660 And it took me about 10 times to read the letter 5 00:00:27,194 --> 00:00:29,796 to be able to control that flood of emotion. 6 00:00:30,531 --> 00:00:33,033 The fact that your... 7 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:36,036 letter triggered such huge emotions 8 00:00:36,970 --> 00:00:39,273 tells me there's a part of me that's still unhealed. 9 00:00:46,413 --> 00:00:47,614 It was shame. 10 00:00:48,615 --> 00:00:51,251 It was humiliation. It was fear. 11 00:00:51,351 --> 00:00:53,353 It was apprehension. 12 00:00:53,453 --> 00:00:56,990 I don't know to this day why I'm still alive. 13 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:58,058 And that's the truth. 14 00:01:10,170 --> 00:01:13,874 After I left Mike, he called late at night, 15 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:17,311 and I said, "What do you want?" 16 00:01:18,946 --> 00:01:21,515 And he's whispering, and he's like, "I just wanted 17 00:01:21,615 --> 00:01:22,616 to hear your voice." 18 00:01:23,784 --> 00:01:24,785 And I discovered 19 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:28,755 later on that he had called me 20 00:01:30,157 --> 00:01:32,659 from the victim's... 21 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:36,029 home on the night that they were murdered. 22 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:40,567 I often think... 23 00:01:43,503 --> 00:01:46,340 was it me he was killing each time he brutally killed 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,909 these people in his mind? 25 00:02:34,755 --> 00:02:38,291 I was running a cardiology unit, 26 00:02:38,392 --> 00:02:42,295 and I had my office manager call me in one day 27 00:02:42,396 --> 00:02:43,997 and she found about my ex-husband. 28 00:02:45,198 --> 00:02:50,137 And she told me that she was going to lay me off 29 00:02:50,237 --> 00:02:53,507 because she couldn't handle the knowledge, 30 00:02:53,607 --> 00:02:55,409 knowing that I was married to him. 31 00:02:59,379 --> 00:03:03,617 And the nature of his crimes, apparently, in her words, 32 00:03:03,717 --> 00:03:04,785 freaked her out, 33 00:03:04,885 --> 00:03:07,654 and she couldn't deal with it knowing that 34 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:09,923 I was in the same building with her. 35 00:03:11,024 --> 00:03:13,326 And that makes you feel like 36 00:03:13,593 --> 00:03:15,228 you're a plague, like you're a cancer, 37 00:03:15,328 --> 00:03:17,798 like you've done something wrong. 38 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:19,833 I did nothing wrong. 39 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:28,542 I remember going home and thinking, 40 00:03:28,642 --> 00:03:30,744 "What am I gonna do?" 41 00:03:30,844 --> 00:03:33,113 You know, I have bills, I have children, 42 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,515 I have responsibilities. 43 00:03:38,618 --> 00:03:41,188 There was a point in time in my life where 44 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:45,225 I had nobody, where I felt very hopeless 45 00:03:45,325 --> 00:03:46,893 that nothing was gonna change. 46 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,164 I'd always had the stigma 47 00:03:51,498 --> 00:03:55,502 of being the serial killer's ex-wife. 48 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,592 I thought he was the most handsome thing. 49 00:04:18,692 --> 00:04:23,130 Dark hair. He was very muscular. 50 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:25,932 And at first he was a charmer. 51 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:31,138 He would buy me flowers and he would buy me chocolates. 52 00:04:32,139 --> 00:04:36,009 Told me everything that a young girl wants to hear. 53 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:37,310 He told me he loved me. 54 00:04:38,245 --> 00:04:41,381 I never had anybody, including my parents, ever say, 55 00:04:41,481 --> 00:04:44,184 "I love you." 56 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:45,719 My family was very strict, 57 00:04:47,654 --> 00:04:51,057 overbearing on religion. There was a lot of abuse. 58 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:56,630 So he was the first person that made me feel special. 59 00:04:59,499 --> 00:05:01,034 I thought he was the love of my life. 60 00:05:03,537 --> 00:05:07,641 And we also connected through a bond of abuse. 61 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:18,285 He told me early on about a story 62 00:05:18,385 --> 00:05:21,354 that he must have been about 10 years old. 63 00:05:22,889 --> 00:05:25,492 There was a conflict with his father, 64 00:05:26,793 --> 00:05:29,796 and then he proceeded to... 65 00:05:29,896 --> 00:05:32,766 take his right hand. He had... 66 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:39,105 turned on the burners to the stove 67 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:41,274 and burned his hand. 68 00:05:42,442 --> 00:05:44,511 How could you not have empathy? 69 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,957 He started becoming very jealous and controlling. 70 00:05:57,057 --> 00:05:59,459 Like, even going to school, you know, like, 71 00:05:59,559 --> 00:06:01,494 "Who did you talk to?" You know, like, 72 00:06:01,595 --> 00:06:02,963 "What do you mean, who did I talk to?" 73 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,970 One day, we were just driving along, and I don't even know 74 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:12,706 what triggered it, but I was accused of cheating on him. 75 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:18,111 When he got mad, he would speed. 76 00:06:19,145 --> 00:06:22,115 Now we're going 110 in a 45. 77 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:25,752 It perpetually got worse 78 00:06:26,786 --> 00:06:28,455 and worse and worse. 79 00:06:31,291 --> 00:06:33,393 Just all in anger and rage. 80 00:06:33,493 --> 00:06:36,062 And when he pulled over, the car skidded off 81 00:06:36,162 --> 00:06:37,631 to the side. 82 00:06:38,765 --> 00:06:40,533 Get out. Get out. 83 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:46,306 He literally dragged me out of the car. 84 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:50,243 And he drove off. 85 00:06:50,343 --> 00:06:52,512 And I thought, "How am I going to get home?" 86 00:06:54,681 --> 00:06:57,951 He left me stranded on the side of some road 87 00:06:58,051 --> 00:06:59,753 that I had no idea where I was. 88 00:07:01,688 --> 00:07:03,924 I don't have any idea what's going on. 89 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,229 This was my first love. 90 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:12,198 This was the first person I ever dated. 91 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:15,802 I truly thought I was in love. 92 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:19,606 I wish I could go back to the girl I was. 93 00:07:21,508 --> 00:07:23,843 I wish I could just look at her and say, 94 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:26,179 "You're beautiful, and nobody needs to tell you that." 95 00:07:28,782 --> 00:07:30,250 I wish I had the strength 96 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:36,556 to walk away. 97 00:07:38,191 --> 00:07:40,794 And then, of course, he came back telling me, 98 00:07:40,894 --> 00:07:41,895 "Get in the car." 99 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:46,099 So I got back in the car. 100 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:49,169 I was scared, 101 00:07:50,403 --> 00:07:52,806 you know, and then that became a way of life. 102 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:08,288 He would lose his temper. 103 00:08:08,388 --> 00:08:11,224 He would grab the back of my hair or grab my neck 104 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:12,892 and shove me into the wall. 105 00:08:14,394 --> 00:08:19,666 He had a temper that would flare at a blink of an eye. 106 00:08:20,567 --> 00:08:24,637 And no rhyme or reason, nothing that you could do 107 00:08:24,738 --> 00:08:26,940 to prevent it. 108 00:08:28,441 --> 00:08:31,845 And I think I had so much trauma 109 00:08:32,278 --> 00:08:34,948 as a child, I just kind of accepted it. 110 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:39,419 Even though my relationship with Mike 111 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:43,189 wasn't the best, it was the best I ever knew. 112 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:47,327 People that haven't been physically 113 00:08:47,427 --> 00:08:50,530 and emotionally abused in their childhood 114 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:52,065 have a very hard... 115 00:08:56,669 --> 00:08:58,738 It's very hard for them 116 00:08:58,838 --> 00:09:01,341 to relate to those of us that have. 117 00:09:02,742 --> 00:09:05,445 So again, as abusive as it was. 118 00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:10,817 It was better than what I was used to. 119 00:09:19,859 --> 00:09:23,096 A friend of ours invited us to a Halloween party. 120 00:09:24,164 --> 00:09:27,100 And we went, and we were all dressed up 121 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,602 and having a great time. 122 00:09:29,702 --> 00:09:33,406 And obviously, I'm talking to people, 123 00:09:33,506 --> 00:09:34,641 and I'm in the moment. 124 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:39,446 And I had noticed that Mike was gone. 125 00:09:39,546 --> 00:09:41,014 And then 126 00:09:41,114 --> 00:09:43,650 I started asking people, "Hey, have you seen Mike?" 127 00:09:44,784 --> 00:09:48,421 And nobody did. And he was gone 128 00:09:49,122 --> 00:09:50,390 a good hour. 129 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:55,795 When I finally did find him, I think all I said was, 130 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:57,931 "Hey, I've been looking for you." 131 00:09:58,031 --> 00:10:03,169 You know, and all of a sudden, the mood with him changed. 132 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:07,006 And there was this refrigerator that was there. 133 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:10,710 And he started punching it, and like, all this rage 134 00:10:10,810 --> 00:10:12,412 out of nowhere. 135 00:10:15,448 --> 00:10:18,384 I mean, it was like he was fighting somebody. 136 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:21,554 I mean, total, complete rage, you know, 137 00:10:21,654 --> 00:10:26,326 and leaving indentations in this fridge. 138 00:10:26,426 --> 00:10:28,962 It was horrible. 139 00:10:29,062 --> 00:10:31,831 And I was like, "What is going on?" 140 00:10:31,931 --> 00:10:35,602 And I remember he stopped punching the refrigerator 141 00:10:35,702 --> 00:10:37,103 and he started punching me. 142 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:42,075 What did I do to deserve this? 143 00:10:43,676 --> 00:10:45,678 It's not about love. 144 00:10:45,778 --> 00:10:47,780 It's more like I was his possession 145 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:50,617 and he needed something in his life that he can control. 146 00:10:52,285 --> 00:10:55,188 Nobody knew what to do. They were kids. 147 00:10:55,288 --> 00:10:58,958 It's not like you think now where you shield somebody. 148 00:11:01,060 --> 00:11:04,364 And I kept thinking, "I don't want to do this. 149 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,900 And I needed to leave." 150 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,668 And then I found out I was pregnant. 151 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:23,516 I was dating Mike for about a year and a half 152 00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:25,151 when I found out I was pregnant. 153 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:29,522 I was about 17. 154 00:11:29,622 --> 00:11:31,925 He just kept saying, "I want to marry you." 155 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:34,694 And I just kept saying, "No, no, no, I'm good. 156 00:11:34,794 --> 00:11:35,728 I might be pregnant, 157 00:11:35,828 --> 00:11:38,464 but I don't want to get married." 158 00:11:38,565 --> 00:11:41,100 I knew that this isn't the life I wanted to be in. 159 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:43,703 This isn't the life I wanted for my kids. 160 00:11:43,803 --> 00:11:44,804 I was petrified. 161 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:48,141 My parents... 162 00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:51,844 and his parents emphasized 163 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:59,519 that if I didn't get married, that God would be upset with me 164 00:11:59,619 --> 00:12:01,154 and I would go to Hell. 165 00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:03,856 And I truly didn't want to offend God 166 00:12:03,957 --> 00:12:05,692 in any shape or form. 167 00:12:05,792 --> 00:12:09,696 And I didn't want to be condemned to hell for eternity. 168 00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:10,863 You know, who would? 169 00:12:27,046 --> 00:12:29,415 Mike and I were going to my parents' home, 170 00:12:29,515 --> 00:12:31,618 and somebody had cut Mike off. 171 00:12:34,387 --> 00:12:36,656 And he grabbed a hammer 172 00:12:38,057 --> 00:12:41,160 and went over to the guy that was driving 173 00:12:43,329 --> 00:12:45,798 and screaming and yelling and waving this hammer, 174 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:47,634 you know, and telling him he was gonna kill him. 175 00:12:49,869 --> 00:12:51,704 And I was horrified. 176 00:12:52,739 --> 00:12:56,175 You know, I thought he was gonna drag him out of the car 177 00:12:56,276 --> 00:12:58,211 and use that hammer on him. 178 00:12:59,412 --> 00:13:03,716 And then he was gonna bash his skull in. 179 00:13:03,816 --> 00:13:08,254 And the man had the common sense to... 180 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,156 leave that immediate area. 181 00:13:15,161 --> 00:13:17,930 And then he just got in the car 182 00:13:18,031 --> 00:13:19,866 and nothing was ever said after it. 183 00:13:21,467 --> 00:13:27,307 He would go into these rages and then just snap out of it. 184 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:29,242 And he could switch it on and off like a light bulb. 185 00:13:30,843 --> 00:13:33,279 You know, and your adrenaline's still going, 186 00:13:33,379 --> 00:13:34,914 your fear's still going. 187 00:13:36,082 --> 00:13:38,785 Not only was I in fear for that man's life, but I was in fear 188 00:13:38,885 --> 00:13:42,121 for my life, too, because, you know, 189 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:44,957 I knew what he was capable of. 190 00:13:59,472 --> 00:14:02,308 The wedding wasn't for me, the wedding was for them. 191 00:14:02,408 --> 00:14:03,609 It wasn't a happy event. 192 00:14:05,411 --> 00:14:06,713 First off, I was pregnant, 193 00:14:06,813 --> 00:14:09,048 and everybody knew I was pregnant. 194 00:14:09,649 --> 00:14:13,152 And after the event, he was counting some envelopes, 195 00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:15,121 and I went to open up one of the envelopes, 196 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:16,989 and I asked how much we had, 197 00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:19,959 and I don't know what trigger I hit. 198 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:39,779 And he grabbed me by the back of the head. 199 00:14:43,049 --> 00:14:44,784 Threw me into the closet, 200 00:14:47,286 --> 00:14:48,388 and started beating me. 201 00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:50,022 And I went into a fetal position. 202 00:14:53,259 --> 00:14:58,197 And all he did was start kicking my back and my spine. 203 00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:02,201 And all I could do 204 00:15:05,304 --> 00:15:07,373 was try and deflect it. 205 00:15:08,274 --> 00:15:10,443 So my wedding was not... 206 00:15:14,113 --> 00:15:16,082 a beautiful thing. 207 00:15:17,316 --> 00:15:19,886 And I knew it wasn't gonna get any better from here. 208 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:44,877 Mike had fish tanks throughout the house. 209 00:15:46,412 --> 00:15:49,582 And we had come home, 210 00:15:50,016 --> 00:15:52,552 and there was a fish out of the tank. 211 00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:56,956 And he was enraged. 212 00:15:57,924 --> 00:15:59,659 And I had a kitten at that time. 213 00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:06,132 And whether the fish jumped out of the tank and died 214 00:16:06,232 --> 00:16:09,168 or the kitten got it, I don't know. 215 00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,004 But... 216 00:16:13,406 --> 00:16:15,708 his rage was focused on that kitten, 217 00:16:16,876 --> 00:16:17,877 and he beat it to death. 218 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,881 I was horrified. 219 00:16:24,417 --> 00:16:26,786 What could I do to stop it? Absolutely nothing. 220 00:16:28,287 --> 00:16:30,723 I think somehow I was responsible for the kitten 221 00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,693 that he felt killed his fish, so... 222 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,930 I was going to... 223 00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:41,667 have to suffer and watch the brutality of it. 224 00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:42,768 That's what I think. 225 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:47,139 I was absolutely terrified of him after that. 226 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,276 I knew in that moment that he was capable of killing me. 227 00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:08,060 This is a picture of all the generations 228 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,429 of the Edwin Bernard Kaprat. 229 00:17:12,298 --> 00:17:15,868 It's a picture of my ex-husband with my oldest son 230 00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,703 as an infant, 231 00:17:18,204 --> 00:17:21,607 his grandfather and his father. 232 00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:25,278 And I actually look at this picture and Mike looks happy. 233 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:27,847 He looks proud. 234 00:17:28,581 --> 00:17:32,585 He looks like a proud father. He looks hopeful, 235 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:34,554 optimistic for the future. 236 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:39,458 That's the person that I fell in love with, 237 00:17:40,459 --> 00:17:43,195 not the person that he became. 238 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:47,166 I would like to put this down. 239 00:17:57,710 --> 00:18:00,279 Sometimes I would wake up 240 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,249 and the man would be gone. 241 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,554 Like, I have no idea where he went. 242 00:18:08,654 --> 00:18:10,056 You know what I mean? 243 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:13,926 You know, like, are you in the bathroom? 244 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:16,362 So you walk around and, "No, he's not here. 245 00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:17,630 No, the vehicle's not here." 246 00:18:20,666 --> 00:18:25,338 And I never once asked him where he was 247 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:29,709 because he wasn't one to take for questioning. 248 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:32,345 You know, like, it kind of was like, 249 00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:35,648 "I'm gonna do what I want to do when I do it. 250 00:18:35,748 --> 00:18:38,417 And you're just gonna have to deal with it." 251 00:18:41,153 --> 00:18:43,990 But I did noticed a box 252 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,595 that I never saw before, and it had 253 00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:52,698 all sorts of miscellaneous items, 254 00:18:54,266 --> 00:18:55,568 like a watch in there, 255 00:18:56,936 --> 00:18:58,771 foreign money, foreign coins. 256 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:01,574 Where did this come from? 257 00:19:04,944 --> 00:19:06,112 He probably was breaking 258 00:19:06,212 --> 00:19:07,780 into people's homes and stealing items. 259 00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:10,383 That's what occurs to me. 260 00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:18,858 But one time, 261 00:19:18,958 --> 00:19:22,828 when he came home early morning, his knuckles were swollen, 262 00:19:23,663 --> 00:19:25,531 and he had... 263 00:19:27,366 --> 00:19:32,204 not welts, but red marks on the side of his face 264 00:19:32,304 --> 00:19:33,606 and on the side of his neck. 265 00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:38,177 And I did question him on that, and he told me, 266 00:19:38,277 --> 00:19:39,779 "None of your business." 267 00:19:39,879 --> 00:19:42,314 You know, that was the finality of it. 268 00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:55,561 The one time he was gone for maybe two months, 269 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:57,863 not a phone call, 270 00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:00,099 nothing, absolutely nothing. 271 00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:01,834 It was a relief. 272 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:04,937 I didn't want him back at that point. 273 00:20:05,971 --> 00:20:10,976 And I remember the boys were sleeping 274 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:16,549 and I went in to take a shower and I came out, 275 00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:20,720 and standing in my living room is... 276 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:21,854 Mike. 277 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:31,997 And the first thing I said are, "Where are my kids?" 278 00:20:32,098 --> 00:20:35,201 And he said, "They're in the car." 279 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:41,307 And he said, "I'm coming home." 280 00:20:41,407 --> 00:20:43,709 And I said, "Oh, no, you're not." 281 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:44,910 And he said, 282 00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:48,280 "Before you say anything else," 283 00:20:48,380 --> 00:20:51,083 he said, "Understand, if you don't allow me 284 00:20:52,485 --> 00:20:53,486 back here to live," 285 00:20:54,687 --> 00:20:59,024 he said, "I'm going to take... both the boys." 286 00:20:59,125 --> 00:21:00,626 And he said, "And I'm gonna kill 'em 287 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:03,729 before you can even pick up a phone to call the cops." 288 00:21:10,336 --> 00:21:12,972 So people ask, "Why did you stay?" 289 00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:16,475 I tried so many times to get out. 290 00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:30,656 We went from living in our apartment 291 00:21:30,756 --> 00:21:33,659 in New Jersey to all of a sudden, 292 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:35,594 we're going to move to Florida. 293 00:21:35,694 --> 00:21:36,662 None of it made sense. 294 00:21:38,164 --> 00:21:41,400 Why are we going to Florida? You know what I mean? 295 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:44,136 You know, was there a certain incident? 296 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:45,471 I don't know the answer. 297 00:21:48,507 --> 00:21:49,742 It was right before Christmas. 298 00:21:50,676 --> 00:21:53,245 We moved in with his parents. 299 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:57,016 And it wasn't good. 300 00:21:57,817 --> 00:22:02,188 At that time, he wasn't working and I was barely working. 301 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:06,559 And at Christmas time, 302 00:22:07,793 --> 00:22:12,031 he went up to the attic and came down with everything 303 00:22:12,131 --> 00:22:13,365 my children wanted for Christmas. 304 00:22:16,302 --> 00:22:19,338 You know, Nintendos, I believe there was one each, 305 00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:25,411 video games, things that were beyond 306 00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:27,313 his financial capabilities. 307 00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:31,217 You know, like, "Where is this from?" 308 00:22:31,317 --> 00:22:32,384 "Don't worry about it. 309 00:22:32,484 --> 00:22:34,420 None of your business," was what I was told. 310 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:37,289 I thought it was very odd. 311 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,443 Because of my childhood, 312 00:22:59,078 --> 00:23:01,513 I was overly protective of my children. 313 00:23:02,915 --> 00:23:04,116 I did everything for my kids. 314 00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:08,687 I lived for my kids. I took beatings for my kids. 315 00:23:11,123 --> 00:23:13,359 He always used the children as a weapon. 316 00:23:13,459 --> 00:23:17,830 The way that he could continue giving me emotional pain was 317 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:19,398 by raising his voice to them, 318 00:23:19,498 --> 00:23:21,934 by grabbing their arms, by shaking them. 319 00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:27,106 I took so many beatings by overstepping my bounds, 320 00:23:27,206 --> 00:23:29,241 by telling him not to touch them that way, 321 00:23:30,542 --> 00:23:32,111 by not to scream at them. 322 00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:36,582 You know, again, it was a way of life. 323 00:23:36,682 --> 00:23:40,185 It's amazing sometimes you don't stand up for yourself 324 00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:41,987 as much as you should, 325 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,555 but you stand up for other people. 326 00:24:01,373 --> 00:24:04,710 I bought my ex-husband a big old bottle of Jack Daniel's. 327 00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:07,112 I got him... 328 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:13,185 good and drunk, and I knocked on the door. 329 00:24:14,553 --> 00:24:15,721 I introduced myself. 330 00:24:16,588 --> 00:24:18,891 I told him I need to go in there and get my kids 331 00:24:18,991 --> 00:24:19,992 and my cats. 332 00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:25,030 And he said, "Absolutely, I'll go to the house with you." 333 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:28,534 And I remember walking through that front door, 334 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:31,236 deputies behind me. 335 00:24:31,337 --> 00:24:33,605 He says, "You go in there." And he says, "And I'm not 336 00:24:33,706 --> 00:24:35,841 leaving until you retrieve your kids, 337 00:24:35,941 --> 00:24:38,344 get them safely in the car." 338 00:24:38,444 --> 00:24:39,611 And that's what I did. 339 00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,350 I wanted to leave from the day I got married. 340 00:24:47,219 --> 00:24:48,687 I remember being in that car 341 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:55,794 and thinking that this is something I didn't want to have 342 00:24:55,894 --> 00:24:58,664 as a permanent part of my life. 343 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:01,066 And I wanted something better. 344 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:05,337 I guess a moment of clarity, a God moment, 345 00:25:05,437 --> 00:25:06,605 a universe moment. 346 00:25:06,705 --> 00:25:09,775 I don't really know, but I know that was the day. 347 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:13,479 I didn't feel that... 348 00:25:14,146 --> 00:25:17,983 that sense of freedom until hours later when I realized 349 00:25:19,985 --> 00:25:20,986 nobody was following me. 350 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:37,036 I was in New Jersey, and I was at my parents' house. 351 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:39,605 I remember thinking, "I can do this." 352 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:43,442 I had a job. I took care of my kids. 353 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:48,147 I remember thinking, "Am I really free?" 354 00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:49,915 I felt safe. 355 00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:55,921 Until I opened that door. 356 00:25:59,091 --> 00:26:00,926 And he was just standing there. 357 00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:07,633 He had showed up out of the blue, 358 00:26:07,733 --> 00:26:10,436 like no phone call ahead of time, just like... 359 00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:12,871 you hear the doorbell 360 00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:15,741 and you open up the door and he's there. 361 00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:20,079 He told me how much he loved me and he missed the kids. 362 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,950 And my parents had this, "that's your husband" 363 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:28,487 sort of attitude, so he can come and see his children 364 00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:29,621 anytime he wants. 365 00:26:31,223 --> 00:26:33,926 And he walked in the house and never left. 366 00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,096 So there wasn't much I could do about it 367 00:26:37,196 --> 00:26:38,797 because I was not in my own home. 368 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,534 He just moved in like... 369 00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:45,471 he owned me again. 370 00:26:45,971 --> 00:26:47,239 I felt trapped. 371 00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:50,109 I felt like, "What the hell am I going to do? 372 00:26:50,209 --> 00:26:52,144 "And how do I get away from this now? 373 00:26:52,244 --> 00:26:53,846 'Cause I have nowhere to go." 374 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:13,065 Two detectives 375 00:27:13,165 --> 00:27:18,170 from Florida had come to my parents' home 376 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:19,838 and asked to speak to Mike. 377 00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,575 And at that time, I knew nothing. 378 00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:24,910 Um... 379 00:27:25,010 --> 00:27:26,512 and they didn't just speak to him. 380 00:27:26,612 --> 00:27:29,014 At that time, they put him in a car and that was it. 381 00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:34,253 I had asked, you know, "What's going on?" 382 00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:38,690 And that's when I was informed that he is being extradited 383 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:41,693 back to Florida and placed under arrest, for murder. 384 00:27:43,629 --> 00:27:46,165 That the man was bludgeoned to death, 385 00:27:47,933 --> 00:27:48,934 and that... 386 00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:52,771 Mike was caught using his credit cards, 387 00:27:53,972 --> 00:27:56,675 and that's how they traced it back to him. 388 00:27:58,644 --> 00:28:02,948 After the fact, I put two and two together to realize 389 00:28:03,048 --> 00:28:05,417 that man lost his life to get my children presents. 390 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:08,687 That's horrific. 391 00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:23,035 The system sucks. 392 00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:27,239 I truly did believe that he had killed this man. 393 00:28:27,339 --> 00:28:29,575 I filed for a divorce. 394 00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:34,146 And right before I left him, he grabbed my... 395 00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:38,650 elbow and dragged me into a room 396 00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:41,620 and raped me. 397 00:28:44,323 --> 00:28:45,257 In our yard. 398 00:29:00,706 --> 00:29:06,712 The last time that I had seen my ex-husband was 399 00:29:06,812 --> 00:29:08,847 when I was leaving the courthouse. 400 00:29:08,947 --> 00:29:11,083 Mike had come up to me and grabbed my arm, 401 00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:18,023 and his words to me were, "I don't care about the kids. 402 00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:21,093 I only care about you," and that... 403 00:29:22,427 --> 00:29:25,264 "You need to come to Florida, and that's what I want, 404 00:29:25,364 --> 00:29:26,565 and that's what you're gonna do." 405 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,571 And as he's talking to me, his hold on my arm 406 00:29:32,671 --> 00:29:35,941 is getting tighter and tighter and tighter. 407 00:29:36,842 --> 00:29:39,278 And all I knew is there was a snowball's chance in hell 408 00:29:39,378 --> 00:29:41,246 that I'd ever go back to Florida with them. 409 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:43,882 I fought too hard to get out. 410 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:48,654 I heard that apparently he had gotten arrested 411 00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:50,355 at one point in time, 412 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:55,594 and he was an informant to have his freedom. 413 00:29:55,694 --> 00:29:57,029 He was a rat. 414 00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,664 He was a coward, a bully, and a rat. 415 00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:03,368 And he had no idea that I knew. 416 00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:05,203 I told him "You [bleep]," 417 00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:06,738 there were some pretty big cats, 418 00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:10,075 and I gave him some names, which I'm not gonna share here. 419 00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:12,944 And I said, "If I don't get to where I'm supposed to be 420 00:30:13,045 --> 00:30:17,049 "at 5 o'clock, rest assured, there are three envelopes 421 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:18,183 that are getting mailed." 422 00:30:20,018 --> 00:30:22,321 It felt good to make a stand and take my power back. 423 00:30:23,622 --> 00:30:24,890 And he didn't say a word. 424 00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:28,727 He just released my arm, and that's the last time 425 00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,162 I ever saw the man. 426 00:30:41,473 --> 00:30:44,976 I heard that he was arrested 427 00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:48,814 and um, he was a suspect 428 00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:50,615 in multiple killings. 429 00:30:51,983 --> 00:30:55,187 I knew he was a monster. 430 00:30:55,287 --> 00:30:58,090 He's labeled a serial killer now. 431 00:31:00,926 --> 00:31:02,461 I think it was shock. 432 00:31:03,161 --> 00:31:06,331 I think it was traumatic. It was trauma. 433 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:13,472 And then I was told that he targeted elderly women, 434 00:31:13,572 --> 00:31:16,074 which I think about, 435 00:31:16,174 --> 00:31:18,710 and I thought about the horror that I went through him, 436 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:20,979 and then I thought about the horror 437 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:22,280 that they went through. 438 00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:25,016 To me, 439 00:31:26,051 --> 00:31:28,754 it looked like the perfect victim, 440 00:31:28,854 --> 00:31:30,589 because they can't fight back. 441 00:31:33,125 --> 00:31:37,462 I really think it was because it made him feel powerful. 442 00:31:52,644 --> 00:31:53,879 So this is a page 443 00:31:53,979 --> 00:31:57,749 from Hernando County Sheriff's Office. 444 00:31:57,849 --> 00:32:00,419 You know, they didn't put a transcript of his confession, 445 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,053 but they described it. 446 00:32:02,154 --> 00:32:04,456 I hope I don't have to read this out loud. 447 00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:06,158 You can make me do it if you want. 448 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:09,227 It's much easier because... 449 00:32:10,562 --> 00:32:11,663 it's very emotional. 450 00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:14,933 In Kaprat's own words, 451 00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:18,236 he stated, "I'm a sick individual. 452 00:32:18,336 --> 00:32:20,839 I broke in, found the people, did what I did." 453 00:32:22,207 --> 00:32:25,377 They were sexually assaulted and then they were killed. 454 00:32:25,477 --> 00:32:27,078 He stated he confronted the victim 455 00:32:27,179 --> 00:32:29,781 and struck her several times. 456 00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:31,650 He admitted that he made the victim have 457 00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:33,318 vaginal intercourse with him and then 458 00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:36,221 made her perform oral sex on him. 459 00:32:36,321 --> 00:32:39,958 He states the victim did resist and that at one point 460 00:32:40,058 --> 00:32:42,494 while he was on top of her, she appeared as though she was 461 00:32:42,594 --> 00:32:44,129 having a heart attack. 462 00:32:44,229 --> 00:32:46,531 So he, in turn, stepped on her throat 463 00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:48,400 to put her out of her misery. 464 00:32:50,402 --> 00:32:51,736 My whole body is shaking. 465 00:33:08,086 --> 00:33:11,656 "Lydia M. Riddell was 79 years old. 466 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:14,526 "Lydia Riddell was active in her church. 467 00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:17,395 "Neighbors remember her as caring and helpful, 468 00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:20,198 someone who often looked out for others." 469 00:33:21,867 --> 00:33:23,401 What a beautiful soul. 470 00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:30,609 Some beautiful person lost their life for no reason. 471 00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:32,744 None of this should have ever happened. 472 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:36,715 She should have died of old age in the arms of her family. 473 00:33:37,883 --> 00:33:39,885 "William and Alice Whitney. 474 00:33:41,052 --> 00:33:42,454 "William was brutally beaten 475 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,956 "and later died of pneumonia from his injuries. 476 00:33:46,391 --> 00:33:50,462 "Alice, who has Alzheimer's disease, was also assaulted 477 00:33:50,562 --> 00:33:52,464 "but survived the attack, living with the trauma 478 00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:54,165 for the remainder of her life." 479 00:33:57,569 --> 00:34:00,872 I can only imagine 480 00:34:00,972 --> 00:34:03,008 growing old with a person that you love 481 00:34:04,776 --> 00:34:07,245 and trying to save your wife. 482 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:11,283 And I couldn't even imagine 483 00:34:13,151 --> 00:34:16,755 what they felt during it, what they felt after it. 484 00:34:18,323 --> 00:34:22,727 "Alice Dawe was 87 years old. 485 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:26,064 "Alice Dawe was found dead in her Spring Hill home, 486 00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:28,633 "which had been set on fire. 487 00:34:34,372 --> 00:34:36,608 "The 87 year old had been sexually assaulted 488 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:37,943 and beaten to death." 489 00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:42,347 Dawe, a one time speed skater and athlete, fought hard." 490 00:34:42,447 --> 00:34:44,282 I'm sure she did. Good for her. 491 00:34:45,884 --> 00:34:48,019 "Her bloody dentures were found near her body. 492 00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:51,089 She had bitten the assailant in the back." 493 00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,729 That was the last victim, the one that got him caught. 494 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:58,830 Good. 495 00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:03,635 I mean, it's not good that any of this happened. 496 00:35:03,735 --> 00:35:07,272 But it's good that somebody finally connected all the dots 497 00:35:07,372 --> 00:35:08,940 and put the pieces together. 498 00:35:22,587 --> 00:35:24,122 It's an atrocity. 499 00:35:24,222 --> 00:35:25,724 And if that wasn't horrific enough, I 500 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:27,225 think the thing that hit home to me was 501 00:35:27,325 --> 00:35:30,228 when I had read articles 502 00:35:31,029 --> 00:35:35,767 that the victims, they were sexually assaulted. 503 00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:42,741 Essentially, it gave him a euphoria and a sense of power 504 00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:46,544 when he assaulted them in that manner. 505 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:48,613 And that's very hard for me to talk about. 506 00:35:50,215 --> 00:35:54,486 I know, towards the end, sex became very violent. 507 00:35:57,022 --> 00:35:58,223 Yes. 508 00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:00,792 It was choking. 509 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,561 It was restraining. 510 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:05,897 It was demeaning. 511 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,201 And I still, to this day, believe that everybody 512 00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:12,203 that he killed, he thought he was killing me, 513 00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:15,507 because he lost control. 514 00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,742 Because he couldn't control me anymore. 515 00:36:30,588 --> 00:36:33,491 I had a friend of mine that I was discussing this with, 516 00:36:33,591 --> 00:36:35,927 and my friend had asked him, "Hey, man, where you been? 517 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:37,762 We've been looking for you." 518 00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:40,598 And he said, "I just killed somebody," and smiled. 519 00:36:41,633 --> 00:36:45,503 And the person that told me was very freaked out about it. 520 00:36:45,603 --> 00:36:46,871 And he was like, "Do you think he did?" 521 00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:48,573 And I said, "I have no idea." 522 00:36:48,673 --> 00:36:50,208 I said, "None of us know where he went." 523 00:36:51,509 --> 00:36:54,412 Now that I reflect back on it, I feel like 524 00:36:54,512 --> 00:36:55,880 it could have been possible. 525 00:37:13,331 --> 00:37:14,799 It's surreal. 526 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,870 I don't know all the people that he killed. 527 00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:20,071 I honestly don't know. 528 00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:26,444 Where is the line that the only thing that brings you joy 529 00:37:27,479 --> 00:37:30,815 is extreme violence and cruelty? 530 00:37:40,558 --> 00:37:43,161 I have looked at this picture many times. 531 00:37:45,163 --> 00:37:48,967 And at first, it was hard for me to, uh, 532 00:37:49,067 --> 00:37:50,568 meet his eyes in it. 533 00:37:51,336 --> 00:37:56,374 All I feel in this picture is suppressed underlying rage, 534 00:37:57,475 --> 00:37:59,344 because he had gotten caught. 535 00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:03,548 I don't identify with who this person is. 536 00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:05,583 I mean, I-- 537 00:38:05,683 --> 00:38:08,586 before I left him, he was becoming this person, 538 00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:13,691 but he wasn't wholly this person at this point in time. 539 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:16,795 It doesn't even look like the same person. 540 00:38:19,564 --> 00:38:21,833 I don't know what makes people 541 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:24,135 capable of killing another human being. 542 00:38:26,938 --> 00:38:28,740 But I really believe, 543 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,543 and especially after looking at those pictures, 544 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:36,147 the only thing that made him feel anything 545 00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:37,882 was committing these murders. 546 00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:55,300 I have no remorse for him being dead. 547 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,670 I feel like death was too easy on him. 548 00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:06,778 I would have rather seen him spend his life in prison 549 00:39:07,612 --> 00:39:10,481 and be brutally sodomized 550 00:39:11,316 --> 00:39:14,953 by not one but many people. 551 00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:17,689 I would have liked him to be in fear for his life 552 00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:20,225 of every one of his [bleep] days. 553 00:39:21,526 --> 00:39:23,394 I would have liked everything 554 00:39:24,929 --> 00:39:28,499 that he did to me and to these people, 555 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,468 I would have liked to have him relive it 556 00:39:30,568 --> 00:39:32,704 every [bleep] day. 557 00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:38,977 I feel like it got off too easy. 558 00:39:40,912 --> 00:39:46,150 I do. I think he got off easy. 559 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,556 That's the truth. That's how I feel. 560 00:40:04,369 --> 00:40:07,372 I wouldn't be the person I am today 561 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,808 if this didn't happen the way that it did. 562 00:40:11,809 --> 00:40:13,344 It made me stronger. 563 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:15,747 It made me... 564 00:40:17,181 --> 00:40:19,217 live my life with no regrets. 565 00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:25,623 It made me recognize who the true people 566 00:40:25,723 --> 00:40:28,593 in my life were. And there is hope. 567 00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:34,832 And there is more to life than dysfunction. 568 00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:39,737 You know, I'm alive to tell my story, 569 00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:41,072 you know. 570 00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:45,410 And in some odd way, 571 00:40:46,945 --> 00:40:49,314 I am thankful for this experience, 572 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:52,650 as painful as it is, 573 00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:55,586 because... 574 00:40:57,889 --> 00:41:00,258 it's helping me heal. 575 00:41:00,358 --> 00:41:03,528 And that's what I want for all people that have suffered abuse 576 00:41:04,729 --> 00:41:06,531 is healing and to be better 577 00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:08,666 and beautiful. 578 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:21,112 I hate him. 579 00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:22,547 The sight of him makes me sick. 580 00:41:23,514 --> 00:41:25,917 I think Leslie put them in the closet and left them. 581 00:41:27,251 --> 00:41:29,687 I don't know how they felt but I think about it all the time. 582 00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:32,590 I chose this man to be my husband and 583 00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:35,360 it's a hard pill to swallow.