1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:28,193 --> 00:00:30,864 ♪ 4 00:00:47,881 --> 00:00:50,133 The thing you have to understand is that this wasn't 5 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:53,594 a missing person's case where anyone was accused of a... 6 00:00:53,594 --> 00:00:55,722 a kidnapping or, or a murder, even. 7 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:57,722 This was a situation where 8 00:00:57,722 --> 00:01:00,601 two kids disappeared and 9 00:01:00,601 --> 00:01:02,895 nobody, as far as I can tell, has ever been 10 00:01:02,895 --> 00:01:06,231 able to explain how or why. 11 00:01:06,731 --> 00:01:09,944 So, you either have to accept the simplest explanation, 12 00:01:09,944 --> 00:01:10,944 which is that 13 00:01:11,153 --> 00:01:13,614 we'll never know what happened to Matthew and Jordan. 14 00:01:13,614 --> 00:01:14,656 Or... 15 00:01:14,989 --> 00:01:17,701 you have to allow for the possibility 16 00:01:17,701 --> 00:01:19,995 that unnatural events can occur. 17 00:01:19,995 --> 00:01:21,914 And do everything in your power 18 00:01:21,914 --> 00:01:23,792 to understand those events. 19 00:01:24,832 --> 00:01:26,834 [Female Reporter] Two families are desperate for answers 20 00:01:26,834 --> 00:01:30,171 after their teenaged sons disappeared without a trace. 21 00:01:30,171 --> 00:01:32,215 The 17-year-old boys, Matthew Nichols 22 00:01:32,215 --> 00:01:34,093 and Jordan Reimer, were last seen 23 00:01:34,093 --> 00:01:37,096 on the evening of October 31st in Port Rupert, 24 00:01:37,096 --> 00:01:38,932 on the northern edge of the island. 25 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:41,893 Their families are holding out hope they'll be found safe. 26 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:43,936 [Male Reporter] The teens were out for Halloween activities 27 00:01:43,936 --> 00:01:45,063 on Wednesday evening, 28 00:01:45,063 --> 00:01:46,855 but the two were reported missing when they didn't 29 00:01:46,855 --> 00:01:48,731 return to their homes or show up for school 30 00:01:48,731 --> 00:01:49,858 the next morning. 31 00:01:49,858 --> 00:01:51,277 [Female Reporter] It is currently day three 32 00:01:51,277 --> 00:01:52,778 of the missing teens and 33 00:01:52,778 --> 00:01:54,072 police are widening their search 34 00:01:54,072 --> 00:01:56,281 to include any accessible logging roads 35 00:01:56,281 --> 00:01:57,658 on the North Island. 36 00:01:57,658 --> 00:02:00,036 [Male Reporter] Volunteers from as far away as Tofino, 37 00:02:00,036 --> 00:02:03,123 Port Alberni, Parksville, and the Comox Valley 38 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:04,706 have joined the search. 39 00:02:04,706 --> 00:02:08,127 We've been out there all day searching, hoping, looking. 40 00:02:08,127 --> 00:02:10,711 You know, hopefully the outcome will be good. 41 00:02:10,711 --> 00:02:12,798 If anyone has seen Matthew or Jordan, 42 00:02:12,798 --> 00:02:15,133 contact somebody, please. 43 00:02:15,133 --> 00:02:16,802 [Male Reporter] Late this morning, a Canadian 44 00:02:16,802 --> 00:02:19,431 coast guard boat joined the efforts in rough seas, 45 00:02:19,431 --> 00:02:22,390 but the search was called off at noon with nobody found. 46 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:24,811 [Female Reporter] Police are urging anyone with information 47 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:26,979 about Matthew and Jordan's disappearance 48 00:02:26,979 --> 00:02:28,771 to please come forward. 49 00:02:28,980 --> 00:02:31,192 -[music swells] -[muffled yelling] 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,318 Matthew, I want, I want you to know that, um, 51 00:02:33,819 --> 00:02:35,319 there's a lot of people who care for you 52 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:36,322 and are looking for you. 53 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:38,991 Come home. 54 00:02:39,950 --> 00:02:41,953 ♪ 55 00:02:42,161 --> 00:02:43,912 My name is Tara Nichols. 56 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:47,167 22 years ago, my brother Matthew Nichols 57 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:49,418 and his friend Jordan Reimer disappeared. 58 00:02:51,336 --> 00:02:52,795 They've never been found. 59 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:56,300 [dramatic music] 60 00:03:02,973 --> 00:03:04,766 [Man] Take one. Mark. 61 00:03:05,058 --> 00:03:06,185 We're rolling right now? 62 00:03:06,185 --> 00:03:07,854 -Yeah. -Oh, fuck, sorry. Ryan. 63 00:03:08,187 --> 00:03:09,313 No, I'm fine. 64 00:03:09,313 --> 00:03:10,897 Well, you told me that I did have a second. 65 00:03:10,897 --> 00:03:12,233 You said we were gonna take five minutes. 66 00:03:12,233 --> 00:03:14,067 That was literally-- that was 30 seconds, Markian. 67 00:03:14,067 --> 00:03:15,277 There's no closure, you know. 68 00:03:15,277 --> 00:03:17,155 I think that's the hardest part. 69 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:21,032 That's why I'm making this documentary, because... 70 00:03:21,032 --> 00:03:24,913 I want a better answer to the question of 71 00:03:25,204 --> 00:03:29,332 what happened to them than the one I have right now. 72 00:03:30,126 --> 00:03:31,210 [click] 73 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:32,877 Yeah, my son didn't come home last night 74 00:03:32,877 --> 00:03:34,087 and he's not at school today. 75 00:03:34,087 --> 00:03:36,423 So, I wanted to report that to police. 76 00:03:36,423 --> 00:03:38,050 Okay, ma'am. And how do you know 77 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:39,760 your son isn't at school today? 78 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,054 Well, I'm a teacher at Port Rupert Secondary 79 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:45,014 and, um, I checked the attendance records 80 00:03:45,014 --> 00:03:47,350 and his friend Jordan, who he was with last night, 81 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:49,020 is also not at the school. 82 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:51,395 When you asked me to take part in this, I agreed, 83 00:03:51,395 --> 00:03:54,274 because this particular case has stayed with me. 84 00:03:56,901 --> 00:03:58,069 [Tara] Yeah, me too. 85 00:03:58,278 --> 00:03:59,487 Yeah, I'm sure. 86 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:02,991 It wouldn't have been unusual for hikers or tourists 87 00:04:02,991 --> 00:04:05,495 to go missing in the bush, you know, hiking off trail. 88 00:04:05,495 --> 00:04:09,831 But for a local, even a teen, to go missing... 89 00:04:10,082 --> 00:04:12,085 that... that would've been rare. 90 00:04:12,417 --> 00:04:15,169 You know, in those early days, especially with a teen, 91 00:04:15,169 --> 00:04:17,382 there's always the thought that well, 92 00:04:17,382 --> 00:04:20,968 maybe this is a prank or a cry for attention. 93 00:04:20,968 --> 00:04:22,218 But... 94 00:04:22,218 --> 00:04:24,971 as the weekend went on, it didn't feel like that to me. 95 00:04:24,971 --> 00:04:26,975 I did feel it was more serious. 96 00:04:27,850 --> 00:04:29,851 [ship horn blares] 97 00:04:31,228 --> 00:04:32,353 [Markian] Ryan, am I in this one? 98 00:04:32,353 --> 00:04:34,105 [Tara] You didn't know you're gonna be in this? 99 00:04:34,105 --> 00:04:35,857 This is like the first time. Okay, I'm not, fine-- 100 00:04:35,857 --> 00:04:37,819 I'm just worried about looking at the camera all the time 101 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:39,112 and going like, Jim Halpert, like... 102 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:40,194 It turns into one big episode-- 103 00:04:40,194 --> 00:04:41,279 'Cause that's what I wanna do. 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,365 Yeah. Okay. 105 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:45,951 Uh, so this is the first time on camera, so, um... 106 00:04:45,951 --> 00:04:48,286 I'm Markian and I'm the d-- Do I? I don't need to-- 107 00:04:48,286 --> 00:04:49,413 You don't need to say your name. 108 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:50,831 Yeah. Title Card. Yeah. 109 00:04:50,831 --> 00:04:52,375 -Cool. Let's go. I'm good. -You're good. 110 00:04:52,584 --> 00:04:54,459 -Okay. -All right. 111 00:04:55,459 --> 00:04:57,213 When was the last time you were home? 112 00:04:58,380 --> 00:04:59,841 Uh, okay. 113 00:04:59,841 --> 00:05:02,091 Um, the last time I was home... 114 00:05:02,843 --> 00:05:05,346 was actually for my dad's funeral. 115 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:08,348 Yeah, so, I mean, the place doesn't really hold a lot 116 00:05:08,348 --> 00:05:10,182 of stellar memories for me, but... 117 00:05:11,601 --> 00:05:14,396 It's okay. You know, it... it is what it is. 118 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,860 I actually, I do feel really ready for this. 119 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:22,988 I mean, I've... I've done a lot of work, 120 00:05:22,988 --> 00:05:25,158 you know, on my own personal stuff. 121 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:26,451 Talked to people about it. 122 00:05:26,992 --> 00:05:28,117 Therapy. You know. 123 00:05:28,326 --> 00:05:30,079 Obviously lots of therapy. 124 00:05:30,954 --> 00:05:34,416 But, uh, no, I do, I feel really ready 125 00:05:34,416 --> 00:05:36,877 to explore this part of my life. 126 00:05:36,877 --> 00:05:39,170 ♪ 127 00:05:48,346 --> 00:05:51,600 Me and my family, my older brother, Matthew, 128 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,435 we grew up on Vancouver Island. 129 00:05:55,062 --> 00:05:58,899 That's, uh, beautiful British Columbia, Canada. 130 00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:02,903 I was five and a half years younger than Matty. 131 00:06:02,903 --> 00:06:05,447 Do I have anything in my teeth? Anything? Come on! 132 00:06:05,447 --> 00:06:08,283 [Tara] I'm pretty sure that I was a surprise, but I mean, 133 00:06:08,283 --> 00:06:10,285 my parents never actually admitted it, so... 134 00:06:10,285 --> 00:06:13,038 [Mom] Oh, aren't you just sweet? 135 00:06:13,038 --> 00:06:16,541 [Tara] My childhood was pretty average. 136 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:18,209 Dad worked at the mill. 137 00:06:18,670 --> 00:06:21,172 Mom was a teacher at the high school. 138 00:06:21,172 --> 00:06:22,255 [baby babbles] 139 00:06:22,255 --> 00:06:24,925 We grew up, you know, camping, 140 00:06:25,509 --> 00:06:27,552 going to beaches, forests... 141 00:06:27,552 --> 00:06:29,805 I mean, God, Matty and I loved playing in the forest. 142 00:06:29,805 --> 00:06:30,389 I mean, God, Matty and I loved playing in the forest. 143 00:06:31,598 --> 00:06:32,932 This is one of the most 144 00:06:32,932 --> 00:06:35,267 beautiful places on earth to live. 145 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,564 That, that is of course, if you don't mind the rain. 146 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:42,192 We're at the northern edge of Vancouver Island. 147 00:06:42,192 --> 00:06:45,569 Population, I'd say 20,000. 148 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:49,574 I love the serenity of the place. 149 00:06:50,033 --> 00:06:51,411 The beauty. 150 00:06:52,244 --> 00:06:55,413 Yeah, I could see... you're in God's country. 151 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:59,084 We-we're a very tight community. 152 00:06:59,084 --> 00:07:00,670 I mean, everybody here 153 00:07:01,963 --> 00:07:04,630 helps and cares for everybody else. 154 00:07:05,966 --> 00:07:10,096 [slow acoustic music plays] 155 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:19,271 There she is... 156 00:07:19,646 --> 00:07:21,314 Mom... 157 00:07:21,689 --> 00:07:23,317 [both sigh happily] 158 00:07:24,276 --> 00:07:25,985 Better than Zoom, eh? 159 00:07:25,985 --> 00:07:27,529 Way better. 160 00:07:27,529 --> 00:07:29,531 -Missed you. Yeah. -I missed you too. 161 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:31,658 -Uh, yeah, so... -Hi. 162 00:07:31,658 --> 00:07:33,076 -Sorry. -Hi, Mrs. Nichols. 163 00:07:33,076 --> 00:07:34,995 Markian. Nice to meet you in person finally. 164 00:07:34,995 --> 00:07:37,622 -Markian. -Oh, oh, thank you. 165 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,459 Great to meet you. Um... 166 00:07:40,709 --> 00:07:42,377 So, yeah, that's Ryan right there. 167 00:07:42,377 --> 00:07:43,463 -[Tara] Camera. -Ryan. 168 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,545 -Yeah. -Come on in. 169 00:07:44,545 --> 00:07:45,630 -Come on in. -Great. 170 00:07:45,630 --> 00:07:47,007 [Mom] Tara, how was the drive? 171 00:07:47,007 --> 00:07:48,048 [Tara] Uh, long. 172 00:07:48,048 --> 00:07:50,136 [Mom] Are you guys hungry? I made cookies. 173 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:51,137 -[Markian] Oh! 174 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:52,137 -[Tara]. Oh, famous, Brenda's... 175 00:07:52,137 --> 00:07:53,221 [Markian] Thank you, thank you. 176 00:07:53,221 --> 00:07:54,557 They are really good. You should try one. 177 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:57,100 Matty's room, we cleared out, but your room is... 178 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,642 pretty much the same. 179 00:07:58,642 --> 00:08:00,271 -[Tara] Really? Okay. -[Mom] Mm-hmm. 180 00:08:00,646 --> 00:08:02,398 -Oh... -Oh, my God. 181 00:08:02,398 --> 00:08:04,064 -Wild. -You were not kidding. 182 00:08:04,483 --> 00:08:08,069 -Look at this. -This is a time warp, Mom. 183 00:08:08,737 --> 00:08:10,322 [Tara] Oh, my God. 184 00:08:11,031 --> 00:08:12,781 -[Tara] What? This bedspread? -[Mom] Mm-hmm. 185 00:08:13,533 --> 00:08:15,660 After Matty, I disconnected. 186 00:08:15,660 --> 00:08:19,206 I smoked a lot of weed, you know, listened to 187 00:08:19,206 --> 00:08:20,706 a shit ton of The Cure and-- 188 00:08:20,706 --> 00:08:22,541 Hey, hey... language. 189 00:08:22,541 --> 00:08:27,047 I listened to a lot of The Cure, uh, bands like, 190 00:08:27,338 --> 00:08:30,091 you know, Morrissey and stuff. 191 00:08:30,509 --> 00:08:32,552 Wrote a lot of sad teenage poetry. 192 00:08:32,552 --> 00:08:34,053 I liked your poetry. 193 00:08:34,053 --> 00:08:36,597 What? Mom, no. My poetry was bad. 194 00:08:36,597 --> 00:08:37,682 -No! -No, it was like bad-bad. 195 00:08:37,682 --> 00:08:39,309 Everyone has to start somewhere. 196 00:08:39,309 --> 00:08:40,434 Oh... okay. 197 00:08:40,434 --> 00:08:41,561 Oh! 198 00:08:41,561 --> 00:08:43,773 Actually, I have something to show you. 199 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,192 -Do you remember that? -Oh my. 200 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:47,692 -Yeah. Yeah. -Really? 201 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,653 I wear it every day. 202 00:08:50,361 --> 00:08:51,738 -Oh, I love that. -Yeah. 203 00:08:51,738 --> 00:08:54,533 This was Matty's, actually, yeah. 204 00:08:54,533 --> 00:08:56,701 Here, Ryan, come... get, like, a close-- 205 00:08:56,701 --> 00:08:58,328 -And did he give that to you? -See. 206 00:08:58,328 --> 00:09:00,539 -He did, yeah. Yeah. -It's beautiful. 207 00:09:01,123 --> 00:09:03,208 -So, it's always with me. -Wow. 208 00:09:03,416 --> 00:09:05,211 -Right. Yeah. -That's wonderful. 209 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:07,712 Things happened really quickly at the beginning. 210 00:09:09,714 --> 00:09:11,634 Neighbors were dropping off food. 211 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:13,384 The phone was always ringing. 212 00:09:13,384 --> 00:09:15,346 And every time there was a potential sighting, 213 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:16,846 my heart would just race. 214 00:09:19,558 --> 00:09:21,561 And then there were these long periods 215 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,227 where nothing would happen. 216 00:09:23,227 --> 00:09:26,105 Your dad was never here. He was, he had to keep busy. 217 00:09:27,149 --> 00:09:29,359 He'd organize search parties and... 218 00:09:30,235 --> 00:09:31,653 just keep moving. 219 00:09:31,653 --> 00:09:33,447 You know, we're feeling pretty optimistic. 220 00:09:33,779 --> 00:09:35,615 You know, Matthew and Jordan, uh... 221 00:09:36,115 --> 00:09:38,285 they're, they're pretty confident in the woods. 222 00:09:38,285 --> 00:09:39,327 Um... 223 00:09:39,535 --> 00:09:41,581 Yeah, they... they're coming home. 224 00:09:42,121 --> 00:09:43,414 We're gonna find them. 225 00:09:46,210 --> 00:09:48,378 Mom, can you tell me about the... 226 00:09:48,628 --> 00:09:51,130 last time you saw Matty? 227 00:09:54,259 --> 00:09:55,427 Well... 228 00:09:57,511 --> 00:09:59,139 it was Halloween night. 229 00:10:00,265 --> 00:10:02,350 I was taking you out trick or treating. 230 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:05,437 And Matty said he didn't wanna go. 231 00:10:05,437 --> 00:10:06,813 They were too old, 232 00:10:07,272 --> 00:10:09,692 So, they went out by themselves and, um... 233 00:10:10,649 --> 00:10:12,861 they knew they had a 12 o'clock curfew. 234 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,405 We went trick or treating and, um... 235 00:10:16,782 --> 00:10:18,198 we got home. 236 00:10:20,285 --> 00:10:22,245 And the boys weren't there, so... 237 00:10:23,203 --> 00:10:24,205 we went to bed. 238 00:10:25,248 --> 00:10:26,500 And the next morning 239 00:10:29,169 --> 00:10:30,254 I woke up 240 00:10:30,922 --> 00:10:33,380 and I checked Matty's room 241 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:36,551 and they weren't there. 242 00:10:37,344 --> 00:10:39,303 And I went to the high school and I... 243 00:10:40,804 --> 00:10:43,182 taught my first two blocks, and then I thought... 244 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:47,395 I'm just gonna check the attendance records, 245 00:10:47,395 --> 00:10:48,648 make sure the boys are there. 246 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:51,567 The boys weren't there. 247 00:10:53,193 --> 00:10:54,778 And that's when I called the police. 248 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:58,530 And he hasn't run away or done anything like this before? 249 00:10:58,530 --> 00:11:01,201 -No. -Matthew and... Jordan? 250 00:11:01,201 --> 00:11:02,451 Yes. 251 00:11:02,451 --> 00:11:04,580 Okay. One moment, ma'am. 252 00:11:08,207 --> 00:11:09,542 ♪ 253 00:11:09,542 --> 00:11:12,922 The initial witness reports put both boys at school 254 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:15,965 right till the end of the school day, 3:45 PM. 255 00:11:16,841 --> 00:11:19,677 Then both young men went home for their evening meal. 256 00:11:19,677 --> 00:11:23,514 According to Brenda Nichols, Matthew left the family home 257 00:11:23,514 --> 00:11:25,433 just before 6:00 PM. 258 00:11:25,433 --> 00:11:28,562 She noted that he was wearing a dark blue windbreaker style 259 00:11:28,562 --> 00:11:30,690 jacket and a dark backpack. 260 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,318 The next witness was a clerk at the local gas station. 261 00:11:35,318 --> 00:11:37,947 And he confirmed that he'd seen both Matthew and Jordan 262 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:39,530 in the store that night. 263 00:11:39,530 --> 00:11:43,618 Very specific time, 6:17 PM 'cause he had a timestamp 264 00:11:43,618 --> 00:11:45,662 receipt of what the boys had bought there. 265 00:11:45,662 --> 00:11:50,333 And the third possible sighting was Reverend Tom Sinclair. 266 00:11:50,333 --> 00:11:52,961 But unfortunately, Reverend Sinclair couldn't a hundred 267 00:11:52,961 --> 00:11:55,715 percent identify that it was Matthew and Jordan he saw. 268 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:57,966 He could confirm that he saw two young men, 269 00:11:57,966 --> 00:12:02,511 one wearing a, a dark windbreaker headed towards 270 00:12:02,511 --> 00:12:05,724 Black Bear Forest up off Highlands Drive there. 271 00:12:05,724 --> 00:12:07,767 That was at 6:40 PM. 272 00:12:08,644 --> 00:12:11,397 That was the last possible sighting. 273 00:12:11,397 --> 00:12:14,316 And it leads into one of the problems with the case, 274 00:12:14,316 --> 00:12:15,734 because it was Halloween night. 275 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:19,571 So there were lots of kids and families out, 276 00:12:19,571 --> 00:12:22,908 and two fairly nondescript teenagers walking around town 277 00:12:22,908 --> 00:12:25,535 just didn't attract that much attention. 278 00:12:27,288 --> 00:12:29,038 From all of the information we'd amassed, 279 00:12:29,038 --> 00:12:31,375 we actually came up with three working theories 280 00:12:31,375 --> 00:12:33,418 of what might've happened to the boys. 281 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:39,423 We looked at their interest in making movies. 282 00:12:39,423 --> 00:12:41,469 What's up? What can I get ya? 283 00:12:41,469 --> 00:12:42,635 So we thought, well, maybe they 284 00:12:42,635 --> 00:12:43,886 left the island and went 285 00:12:43,886 --> 00:12:45,804 to Vancouver to get into the film industry. 286 00:12:45,804 --> 00:12:47,932 You know, maybe they even went to Los Angeles. 287 00:12:47,932 --> 00:12:50,769 A bit far-fetched maybe but we, we checked it out. 288 00:12:51,436 --> 00:12:55,316 We looked at ferry logs, airport logs, security footage, 289 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:57,734 all the marine outlets, boat rentals. 290 00:12:57,734 --> 00:12:59,778 But, uh, we didn't come up with anything. 291 00:13:02,530 --> 00:13:04,533 We interviewed everyone in the town. 292 00:13:04,533 --> 00:13:05,618 I remember that. 293 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,620 And we didn't find any evidence that there was 294 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:09,538 any animosity towards the boys. 295 00:13:09,538 --> 00:13:11,749 But that forced us to look at the families. 296 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:16,336 I was asked a lot of questions, and... 297 00:13:18,712 --> 00:13:19,923 and I think it was hard 298 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:22,592 because it kind of made me, you know, like... 299 00:13:23,384 --> 00:13:24,677 like, doubt myself. 300 00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:27,846 Definitely made me doubt my parents, which was 301 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,475 weird for a while. 302 00:13:31,601 --> 00:13:33,520 Well, the Nichols were ruled out 303 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,773 because their alibis checked out. 304 00:13:35,773 --> 00:13:37,942 Then we, we talked to the Reimers. 305 00:13:37,942 --> 00:13:39,859 [slide projector sound] 306 00:13:39,859 --> 00:13:41,820 The situation was very hard. 307 00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:43,488 I mean, it was hard for everyone, 308 00:13:43,488 --> 00:13:46,990 but things were really ugly for Jordan's family 309 00:13:46,990 --> 00:13:50,035 because fingers started getting pointed at them. 310 00:13:50,035 --> 00:13:53,831 You know, most folks in town, including your family, 311 00:13:53,831 --> 00:13:56,376 were very open with the investigation. 312 00:13:56,376 --> 00:13:59,044 But, um, the Reimers were more challenging. 313 00:13:59,044 --> 00:14:02,383 And, you know, they are an Indigenous family, 314 00:14:02,383 --> 00:14:05,969 and, uh, there was a hesitancy, which I completely understand 315 00:14:06,385 --> 00:14:07,636 in dealing with the police. 316 00:14:07,636 --> 00:14:11,682 So then that delay got out, and then the talk started. 317 00:14:11,682 --> 00:14:14,686 People were accusing Mitch and Ronnie. 318 00:14:14,686 --> 00:14:17,147 And all because of some silly... 319 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:19,065 rumors... 320 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:20,859 about some... 321 00:14:21,860 --> 00:14:23,403 Satan stuff. 322 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:27,533 There was a great deal of panic. 323 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:28,991 Was it this? Was it that? 324 00:14:28,991 --> 00:14:32,495 I remember, uh, one, uh, uh, I think it was a newspaper, 325 00:14:32,828 --> 00:14:34,746 uh, I recall being said they'd heard that there's 326 00:14:34,746 --> 00:14:37,167 a Satanic cult going on. 327 00:14:37,167 --> 00:14:40,044 I, I said, what, where do you get this information? 328 00:14:40,044 --> 00:14:44,466 We were starting to lose that, uh, community feeling. 329 00:14:44,466 --> 00:14:46,467 It was stupid, really. 330 00:14:46,467 --> 00:14:49,678 You know, small town folks, small town thinking. 331 00:14:49,678 --> 00:14:50,971 There was no basis in reality. 332 00:14:50,971 --> 00:14:54,725 And eventually the Reimers did cooperate. Fully. 333 00:14:54,725 --> 00:14:56,895 And that's how they were cleared. 334 00:15:00,691 --> 00:15:02,692 We focused on Black Bear Forest 335 00:15:02,692 --> 00:15:04,777 because the entrance was 336 00:15:04,777 --> 00:15:06,988 the area that they were last possibly seen. 337 00:15:06,988 --> 00:15:10,491 And, you know, that that is a huge area, 338 00:15:10,909 --> 00:15:13,995 And it's a treacherous area, you know, it's heavily wooded. 339 00:15:13,995 --> 00:15:16,163 They could get lost for days. 340 00:15:16,163 --> 00:15:18,542 And if you get too close to the ocean there are cliffs. 341 00:15:18,542 --> 00:15:20,835 And in the forest itself there are creeks 342 00:15:20,835 --> 00:15:22,044 and hidden ravines. 343 00:15:22,044 --> 00:15:23,462 If they fell down one... 344 00:15:26,549 --> 00:15:29,844 You know, people drown on the island every year. 345 00:15:29,844 --> 00:15:31,971 [waves crashing] 346 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,807 About two weeks 347 00:15:34,807 --> 00:15:36,475 into the investigation, 348 00:15:36,975 --> 00:15:38,937 we found a cabin in the forest. 349 00:15:38,937 --> 00:15:40,688 [camera flash whines] 350 00:15:42,481 --> 00:15:45,485 In that cabin we found, uh, a camcorder. 351 00:15:45,485 --> 00:15:47,028 [camera flash whines] 352 00:15:48,779 --> 00:15:51,908 Fingerprint evidence confirmed that both Matthew and Jordan 353 00:15:51,908 --> 00:15:53,826 had handled the camera. 354 00:15:54,910 --> 00:15:57,120 But we didn't find any other evidence. 355 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,750 So we couldn't prove that they put it there 356 00:16:00,750 --> 00:16:02,210 or anyone else put it there. 357 00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:04,796 There was no evidence they'd even been there. 358 00:16:04,796 --> 00:16:07,005 There was certainly no evidence of anywhere 359 00:16:07,005 --> 00:16:09,592 where they might've gone. And, and we searched. 360 00:16:09,592 --> 00:16:14,138 We just didn't find anything that would help us 361 00:16:14,138 --> 00:16:17,600 confirm where the boys were, and... 362 00:16:18,643 --> 00:16:20,645 Um, unfortunately at that point 363 00:16:20,645 --> 00:16:22,647 the case went cold. 364 00:16:24,274 --> 00:16:26,652 What about the camera footage 365 00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,696 on the camcorder that you found? 366 00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:35,618 Well, to the best of my memory, it was just, um... 367 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,078 more of the same and, you know, 368 00:16:38,078 --> 00:16:40,124 similar to the footage that we, 369 00:16:40,124 --> 00:16:42,917 that we took from the family home, um. 370 00:16:43,167 --> 00:16:45,669 It was just hours and hours of them in the woods. 371 00:16:46,169 --> 00:16:48,548 You know, goofing around with the camera. 372 00:16:49,216 --> 00:16:50,884 Playing make-believe. 373 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:53,219 Making a movie. 374 00:16:56,932 --> 00:16:58,100 Ahh! 375 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,727 Come on dude, you gotta stop. You gotta stop. 376 00:17:00,727 --> 00:17:01,854 -What, man? -You gotta stop! 377 00:17:02,061 --> 00:17:03,770 [Brenda] He saved up money from his allowance 378 00:17:03,770 --> 00:17:05,690 and he bought himself that camera. 379 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:08,067 Oh man, those boys loved that camera. 380 00:17:08,317 --> 00:17:09,694 And Matty was good. 381 00:17:09,694 --> 00:17:11,570 He just came out of himself. 382 00:17:11,570 --> 00:17:12,780 Jordan not so much. 383 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:13,865 He was more reserved. 384 00:17:13,865 --> 00:17:16,285 He was more of a behind the camera kinda guy, you know. 385 00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:17,701 Dude, do something. 386 00:17:18,201 --> 00:17:19,244 Jordan! 387 00:17:19,244 --> 00:17:20,954 Can I just get back behind the camera? 388 00:17:20,954 --> 00:17:24,750 The Blair Witch Project is enjoying magical success. 389 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,587 The story of three film students drifting 390 00:17:27,587 --> 00:17:30,338 through the frightening darkness of rural Maryland 391 00:17:30,338 --> 00:17:33,093 is one of the top films in the world right now. 392 00:17:33,093 --> 00:17:35,179 Those boys went to that movie, 393 00:17:35,179 --> 00:17:37,890 I think twice a week for, like, months. 394 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:39,682 I just wanna apologize... 395 00:17:41,018 --> 00:17:42,268 to Jordan's mom. 396 00:17:42,268 --> 00:17:44,063 And when they weren't watching that movie, 397 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,689 they were talking ghost stories. 398 00:17:45,897 --> 00:17:47,066 I... 399 00:17:47,230 --> 00:17:49,108 summon the spirit of... 400 00:17:50,233 --> 00:17:51,987 Roy Mackenzie. 401 00:17:52,194 --> 00:17:53,696 -Excuse me. -Yeah? 402 00:17:53,696 --> 00:17:55,240 Do you know about the legend of Roy Mackenzie? 403 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,990 Have you heard about Roy Mackenzie? 404 00:17:56,990 --> 00:17:58,701 Uh... no... 405 00:17:58,701 --> 00:17:59,743 I don't know about him. 406 00:17:59,743 --> 00:18:00,828 I know a guy named Troy. 407 00:18:00,828 --> 00:18:02,748 Roy used to trap up in these woods. 408 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,040 Him and and a bunch of hunters 409 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,333 had an old trappers cabin up there. 410 00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:07,250 Yeah, he lived out in Black Bear Forest. 411 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:09,797 Yeah, yeah, that's what we found in the library. 412 00:18:09,797 --> 00:18:11,381 [crow caws] 413 00:18:20,681 --> 00:18:22,099 -[Markian] Hey. Morning. -[Tara] Hi. 414 00:18:22,099 --> 00:18:24,853 Film headquarters slash hotel. 415 00:18:24,853 --> 00:18:25,936 -Yeah. -Me likey. 416 00:18:25,936 --> 00:18:27,064 -We like it. -Me likey. Yeah. 417 00:18:27,064 --> 00:18:29,190 Um, can you help me actually move some of these boxes? 418 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:30,775 Yeah. Do you wanna put it on the bed here? 419 00:18:30,775 --> 00:18:32,027 I do, I wanna keep it all on the bed. 420 00:18:32,027 --> 00:18:33,944 What do you wanna start on? Do you wanna start paperwork 421 00:18:33,944 --> 00:18:35,654 or do you wanna... -I think we should probably 422 00:18:35,654 --> 00:18:37,155 go through the paperwork first. -I think... yeah. 423 00:18:37,155 --> 00:18:38,951 -Kinda like, to build... -Also just to-- knowledge. 424 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,034 Yeah, the knowledge thing. 425 00:18:40,034 --> 00:18:42,161 There's a lot of stuff we need to know, and then we'll move... 426 00:18:42,161 --> 00:18:43,328 Where's that? Where's the evidence? 427 00:18:43,328 --> 00:18:45,163 Oh, it's right here. This is the evidence box? Yeah. 428 00:18:45,163 --> 00:18:46,250 Then these are actual, like... 429 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:47,791 -Yeah, material... things. -Things. 430 00:18:47,791 --> 00:18:48,835 -Yeah. 'Kay. -Okay. Cool. 431 00:18:48,835 --> 00:18:50,295 -So I guess take a file? Yeah, let's go. 432 00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:51,337 Yeah, and just start. 433 00:18:51,337 --> 00:18:52,798 -This is so insane. -I know. 434 00:18:55,968 --> 00:18:58,301 Oh... my god. Okay. 435 00:18:58,301 --> 00:19:01,138 This is gonna be so much footage to go through. 436 00:19:01,973 --> 00:19:05,102 Ryan, do you mind, uh, digitizing all these for us? 437 00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:07,144 -Uh... what do you got there? -Yeah, yeah, can you do that? 438 00:19:07,144 --> 00:19:08,188 Umm... 439 00:19:08,188 --> 00:19:10,147 Just so we can watch it on, like, a laptop or something? 440 00:19:10,147 --> 00:19:11,316 Eight... eight millimeter? 441 00:19:13,401 --> 00:19:15,862 What... the fuck? 442 00:19:17,154 --> 00:19:18,949 Markian, look at this. 443 00:19:22,117 --> 00:19:24,119 Oh, that's creepy as fuck. 444 00:19:24,953 --> 00:19:26,079 What is that? 445 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:29,333 It's, oh, it's a totem, I think. 446 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:31,836 -For what? -Yeah. 447 00:19:31,836 --> 00:19:34,714 A totem, um, like Druids would use them for, like, 448 00:19:34,714 --> 00:19:36,133 casting spells in D and D. 449 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:38,844 Oh. Oh, I get-- oh, I see. 450 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:41,011 Yeah, right? 'Cause, like, these-- one of these 451 00:19:41,345 --> 00:19:42,346 You do know what... 452 00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:44,222 D and D, like... 453 00:19:44,849 --> 00:19:47,143 -Dungeons and Dragons, yeah? -Mmm... 454 00:19:47,143 --> 00:19:48,728 -You don't know that. -I've never played it. 455 00:19:48,728 --> 00:19:50,189 -You've never played? -No, I've never played. 456 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:52,273 You've never-- give me that. You've never played D and D? 457 00:19:52,273 --> 00:19:53,733 -No. -What are you, a nerd? 458 00:19:53,733 --> 00:19:55,193 -You grew up under a rock? -I'm, I'm a nerd? 459 00:19:55,193 --> 00:19:57,028 -You guys are the nerds. -I'm sorry. No. 460 00:19:57,028 --> 00:19:58,988 He's no-- that's unacceptable. 461 00:19:58,988 --> 00:20:00,199 I did cool stuff growing up, so. 462 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,365 Cool? Like what? 463 00:20:01,365 --> 00:20:02,826 -Soccer. -Sports? I knew it. 464 00:20:02,826 --> 00:20:03,993 -Yeah. -What did I say? 465 00:20:03,993 --> 00:20:04,994 The jock. 466 00:20:10,458 --> 00:20:11,791 [Tara] Thank you. 467 00:20:17,298 --> 00:20:19,468 [mechanical whirring] 468 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,387 [Tara] Here. 469 00:20:29,769 --> 00:20:31,186 I've already seen these ones. 470 00:20:33,064 --> 00:20:34,066 Whoa. 471 00:20:35,442 --> 00:20:37,234 Holy. This is the totem. 472 00:20:37,818 --> 00:20:39,153 Markian, look, see? 473 00:20:39,528 --> 00:20:41,240 In the woods there. This is that... 474 00:20:41,529 --> 00:20:44,201 totem, and yup, police report. 475 00:20:44,784 --> 00:20:45,911 [nervous laugh] 476 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:49,455 Found 50 feet outside abandoned cabin. That's it. 477 00:20:49,455 --> 00:20:51,250 And Pam didn't mention anything about this. 478 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,210 The-the only thing that she said that they found 479 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:54,877 at that cabin was the camcorder. 480 00:20:56,170 --> 00:20:57,171 Right. 481 00:20:58,131 --> 00:21:01,509 Isn't that kind of like a, a big thing to, to leave out? 482 00:21:02,551 --> 00:21:05,429 Yeah. Uh, yeah. No, no, I agree. 483 00:21:05,429 --> 00:21:08,098 That's a, that's a big detail to kinda miss. 484 00:21:08,098 --> 00:21:09,432 It's a huge detail. 485 00:21:09,432 --> 00:21:10,852 -Yeah. -Like... 486 00:21:12,353 --> 00:21:16,232 I mean, is it possible, Tara, that Pam just forgot? 487 00:21:17,108 --> 00:21:18,442 I mean, look, it was 22 years ago. 488 00:21:18,442 --> 00:21:20,069 I barely remember what I did this morning. 489 00:21:20,069 --> 00:21:21,195 No, no. 490 00:21:21,195 --> 00:21:22,445 She would've remembered. 491 00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,203 Yeah. No way. 492 00:21:29,453 --> 00:21:30,578 That's weird. 493 00:21:31,538 --> 00:21:33,291 Early 19th century... 494 00:21:33,291 --> 00:21:34,835 Dude, what are you even looking for? 495 00:21:34,835 --> 00:21:36,167 Dude, I don't know. 496 00:21:36,961 --> 00:21:40,506 Uh... some book. Maybe late 20th century. 497 00:21:40,506 --> 00:21:41,590 That guy did say that-- 498 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:43,468 Okay, wait, hold on. Vancouver Island. 499 00:21:44,594 --> 00:21:46,846 Local history. Should be right about here. 500 00:21:47,221 --> 00:21:49,140 Um, let's see... 501 00:21:49,432 --> 00:21:51,057 Whatever it is. 502 00:21:51,393 --> 00:21:53,478 I mean, if it even exists. 503 00:21:56,272 --> 00:21:57,398 -Matt, come here. -Hmm? 504 00:21:57,398 --> 00:21:58,567 Dude, check-check this out. 505 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:02,320 Dude. 506 00:22:02,945 --> 00:22:04,865 -Nice find. -[glitches] Look at that. 507 00:22:06,157 --> 00:22:08,035 -Pretty old. -I know, right? 508 00:22:09,076 --> 00:22:10,162 Oh, ooh. 509 00:22:10,953 --> 00:22:12,997 -Dude, give me the camera. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. 510 00:22:13,582 --> 00:22:15,000 There you go. 511 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,002 Dude... 512 00:22:18,252 --> 00:22:19,503 Check this out. 513 00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:22,048 Do you, uh... 514 00:22:23,549 --> 00:22:26,009 Do you think it's Roy's? [laughs] 515 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:27,511 I don't know. 516 00:22:27,511 --> 00:22:29,890 But it seems pretty fucking old to me. 517 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:30,890 Yeah, man. 518 00:22:31,891 --> 00:22:33,434 [Ryan] Check this out for a second, guys. 519 00:22:34,184 --> 00:22:35,353 Where's that thing? 520 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,189 That wasn't in evidence? 521 00:22:39,148 --> 00:22:41,026 No, no, there was nothing like that. 522 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:44,904 Wait, where were they just at there? 523 00:22:46,905 --> 00:22:48,575 Early 20th century, no. 524 00:22:48,575 --> 00:22:50,034 That's almost there. 525 00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:52,328 And Vancouver... 526 00:22:52,328 --> 00:22:53,453 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 527 00:22:53,453 --> 00:22:55,207 This is, this feels like it, right? 528 00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:56,375 -Yeah. -Okay. 529 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,666 -Yeah, I think this is it. -Okay. 530 00:22:57,666 --> 00:22:59,460 Yeah! Yes, 'cause of that map. 531 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:01,212 -Okay. Let's, I guess, just-- -Okay. 532 00:23:01,212 --> 00:23:02,337 Well, how about you... 533 00:23:02,963 --> 00:23:04,173 search this section? -Yeah. 534 00:23:04,173 --> 00:23:05,634 But I'll just, like, look around as well too. 535 00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:07,550 Yeah, yeah, come back and find me in a few, okay? 536 00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:09,011 -Yeah. Sounds good. -'Cause I'm gonna... 537 00:23:09,929 --> 00:23:11,597 [inaudible] and transcripts, no. 538 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,314 -Hey, hey. -Hey. 539 00:23:19,314 --> 00:23:21,398 So, I checked with the person at the front 540 00:23:21,398 --> 00:23:22,608 and they don't recognize that book. 541 00:23:22,608 --> 00:23:24,652 Yeah. I mean, well, it's not here, so. 542 00:23:25,236 --> 00:23:27,029 Whatever they found they took. 543 00:23:27,989 --> 00:23:31,076 There is no concrete evidence that Roy McKenzie 544 00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:32,284 is a real person. 545 00:23:32,661 --> 00:23:34,371 He's a cultural myth. 546 00:23:34,953 --> 00:23:36,247 And that serves a purpose. 547 00:23:36,247 --> 00:23:40,126 Tales are meant to elicit positive behavior in children. 548 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:44,212 For example, there's the Baba Yaga of Ukraine 549 00:23:44,212 --> 00:23:47,215 and Eastern Europe, who feeds on young children 550 00:23:47,215 --> 00:23:49,300 who wander too far into the woods. 551 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:52,096 There's the Skinwalkers of 552 00:23:52,096 --> 00:23:53,471 Central and South American lore, 553 00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:55,642 who can take the shape of animals, 554 00:23:55,642 --> 00:23:58,103 often coyotes or wolves. 555 00:23:59,645 --> 00:24:01,981 There's the Yama-uba of Japan. 556 00:24:02,398 --> 00:24:06,444 They live in the mountains with long, flowing black hair. 557 00:24:07,487 --> 00:24:09,530 The Hungry Ghosts of Buddhist philosophy. 558 00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:12,491 They represent a gnawing hunger within humans 559 00:24:12,491 --> 00:24:14,492 that can never be fulfilled. 560 00:24:14,492 --> 00:24:15,703 [growling and cracking sounds] 561 00:24:15,703 --> 00:24:18,329 In North America, there's the Wendigo. 562 00:24:18,329 --> 00:24:21,625 A supernatural being that infects its victims 563 00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:24,753 and causes them to crave human flesh. 564 00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:26,672 As for Roy Mackenzie, 565 00:24:27,213 --> 00:24:29,134 he's just an old story on the island 566 00:24:29,134 --> 00:24:30,634 to keep the kids out of the woods. 567 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:35,682 People say that he set up his own sort of a religious commune 568 00:24:36,097 --> 00:24:37,307 up in the forest. 569 00:24:38,726 --> 00:24:40,394 They built cabins. 570 00:24:41,145 --> 00:24:45,317 Places where hunters could gather their, their families 571 00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:47,777 and shelter and lead expeditions. 572 00:24:50,196 --> 00:24:51,573 And as the story goes, 573 00:24:52,155 --> 00:24:54,075 during one particular harsh winter... 574 00:24:55,284 --> 00:24:57,746 Roy comes down to the village alone. 575 00:24:57,746 --> 00:24:59,121 [wind blows] 576 00:24:59,121 --> 00:25:01,082 [footsteps] 577 00:25:01,082 --> 00:25:03,167 There's blood on his clothes. 578 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:06,377 And he's babbling in tongues. 579 00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:09,673 The villagers chase him off. 580 00:25:12,425 --> 00:25:14,679 But a couple of them follow him up the trail, 581 00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:16,306 back to the commune. 582 00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:18,432 And when they get there 583 00:25:19,058 --> 00:25:20,352 it's deserted. 584 00:25:20,683 --> 00:25:23,436 All the families and hunters are gone. 585 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:25,440 But one of the cabins 586 00:25:26,065 --> 00:25:29,152 has red smoke billowing from the chimney. 587 00:25:30,611 --> 00:25:32,321 [wind blows] 588 00:25:34,155 --> 00:25:36,157 Roy steps out of the cabin. 589 00:25:37,201 --> 00:25:38,786 Scrawny and skinny. 590 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,330 Blood dripping from his mouth. 591 00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:45,085 And then he looks up to the sky 592 00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:48,546 and he begins to howl. 593 00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:52,173 [howls] 594 00:25:52,173 --> 00:25:54,635 [howls] 595 00:25:55,761 --> 00:25:58,096 [laughs] 596 00:25:59,390 --> 00:26:01,432 I'm... I'm sorry if I frightened you. 597 00:26:01,768 --> 00:26:03,228 So... wait... 598 00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:05,230 he ate all of his followers? 599 00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:07,106 Perhaps. 600 00:26:07,106 --> 00:26:08,275 Who knows? 601 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:12,694 You know... 602 00:26:13,444 --> 00:26:16,365 Victoria has a lot of stories about haunted houses. 603 00:26:16,365 --> 00:26:19,617 Can-can I tell you more stories about haunted houses? 604 00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:22,579 [Markian sighs] 605 00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:24,707 I don't know... 606 00:26:24,707 --> 00:26:26,250 I think we should've gotten him 607 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:27,669 to talk about haunted houses. 608 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:29,545 That would've been pretty good, right? 609 00:26:29,545 --> 00:26:30,587 [laughs] 610 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,676 Markian, um, my brother heard one of those stories 611 00:26:36,676 --> 00:26:40,180 and decided to chase after it, and then I never saw him again. 612 00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:41,222 So... 613 00:26:41,724 --> 00:26:45,269 Yeah, well, what this prof is saying is interesting... 614 00:26:45,685 --> 00:26:49,316 intellectually, it's actually pretty hard for me because 615 00:26:49,606 --> 00:26:53,902 for me, this is not some big theoretical thought experiment. 616 00:26:54,528 --> 00:26:58,532 For me this is actually very, very real. 617 00:27:02,453 --> 00:27:04,371 -I'm sorry, I didn't mean to-- -It's fine. 618 00:27:13,673 --> 00:27:15,174 You know what I don't get... 619 00:27:16,299 --> 00:27:17,469 is... 620 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,178 if Matty and Jordan 621 00:27:19,346 --> 00:27:21,890 were so keen to find this guy Roy's cabin, 622 00:27:22,806 --> 00:27:25,183 why isn't there any footage of it on the tapes? 623 00:27:25,933 --> 00:27:27,603 What are talking about? 624 00:27:27,603 --> 00:27:28,645 Well... 625 00:27:29,270 --> 00:27:30,730 I digitized all the tapes, right? 626 00:27:30,730 --> 00:27:31,815 Yeah. 627 00:27:31,815 --> 00:27:34,443 And we got footage of them running around in the woods, 628 00:27:34,443 --> 00:27:36,654 exploring, playing pranks doing like little-- 629 00:27:36,654 --> 00:27:37,948 What are you saying, Ryan? 630 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:40,240 There's just no footage at the cabin. 631 00:27:41,532 --> 00:27:44,496 No... we-we... we know that they went to the cabin. 632 00:27:44,828 --> 00:27:47,457 We know that, that the camcorder was found there. 633 00:27:47,457 --> 00:27:49,334 Yeah, I'm just saying that... 634 00:27:49,666 --> 00:27:51,920 the cabin is not in the footage. 635 00:27:52,502 --> 00:27:54,212 And you're 100 percent on that? 636 00:27:54,421 --> 00:27:56,633 Yeah. Nowhere. I logged it all. 637 00:27:59,801 --> 00:28:01,221 Holy shit. 638 00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:03,346 Gabby, Gabby, listen to me, okay? 639 00:28:03,346 --> 00:28:05,266 Something about what they gave us back 640 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:06,351 is not checking out. 641 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:08,602 [Gabby] But why, why do you say that? 642 00:28:08,602 --> 00:28:10,480 Because, because, listen, Gabby, okay? 643 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:14,233 In the police inventory report that was filed in 2001, 644 00:28:14,233 --> 00:28:16,694 they have eight tapes listed on the intake form. 645 00:28:17,695 --> 00:28:18,779 -Uh, okay. -Okay. 646 00:28:18,779 --> 00:28:19,864 Eight tapes. 647 00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:21,532 That's what they took from my parents' house. 648 00:28:21,532 --> 00:28:23,241 Matty and Jordan's. Eight. 649 00:28:23,616 --> 00:28:25,369 But then, hold on. 650 00:28:26,328 --> 00:28:27,578 Yes. Here. Then... 651 00:28:27,829 --> 00:28:29,748 on the outgoing inventory report, 652 00:28:29,748 --> 00:28:31,666 the inventory that they gave back to my mom, 653 00:28:31,666 --> 00:28:32,917 like, a few weeks ago, 654 00:28:32,917 --> 00:28:35,546 they have listed... eight tapes. 655 00:28:37,256 --> 00:28:38,258 Uh-huh. 656 00:28:39,425 --> 00:28:41,635 Eight in. Eight out. 657 00:28:42,886 --> 00:28:44,513 Gabby, that doesn't check out. 658 00:28:45,722 --> 00:28:46,765 Why? 659 00:28:47,432 --> 00:28:50,728 Because what about the tape on the fucking camcorder? 660 00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:53,647 They found Matty and Jordan's camcorder in the woods. 661 00:28:53,647 --> 00:28:56,026 We know they did. It was in the evidence report. 662 00:28:56,026 --> 00:28:57,777 So why isn't there another tape? 663 00:28:57,777 --> 00:29:00,404 Hey Gabby, this is Markian speaking. Um... 664 00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,948 The problem is we don't know if there was a tape 665 00:29:02,948 --> 00:29:04,532 in the camcorder. -No! No, no, no. No way. 666 00:29:04,532 --> 00:29:07,286 We do know that Matty and Jordan would not have gone 667 00:29:07,286 --> 00:29:09,496 all the way up there and not loaded up the camcorder. 668 00:29:09,913 --> 00:29:11,833 Okay. Gabby, listen to me. 669 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:13,040 I'm telling you. 670 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,544 Pam, or... or, or somebody 671 00:29:15,752 --> 00:29:17,003 withheld something. 672 00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:21,340 Okay, well, sometimes there can be clerical errors 673 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:22,634 when evidence is released. 674 00:29:23,761 --> 00:29:25,304 What is a clerical error? 675 00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:28,891 It's, I mean, if the case is old enough, Tara. 676 00:29:29,433 --> 00:29:30,602 Come on, it's a small precinct. 677 00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:32,603 Gabby, I'm sorry, I really am sorry, but I do not 678 00:29:32,603 --> 00:29:34,314 give a shit about excuses right now. 679 00:29:34,772 --> 00:29:37,608 Okay. Okay. I will file a motion with the court 680 00:29:37,608 --> 00:29:39,943 citing a possible error on the evidence manifest. 681 00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:42,821 Okay? I'll get on a call with the local detachment. 682 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,615 Can you send me a copy of what you have? 683 00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:48,493 Yeah, yeah, I can, I guess. 684 00:29:48,493 --> 00:29:50,453 Can I just, like, text you photos or... 685 00:29:50,703 --> 00:29:52,372 Yep, yep. Do that. 686 00:29:52,914 --> 00:29:54,500 Hey, we're gonna figure this out. 687 00:29:56,877 --> 00:29:57,877 Okay. 688 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,964 Um, hey Gab, when, when do you think we could get 689 00:30:00,964 --> 00:30:02,048 kind of all this stuff by? 690 00:30:03,718 --> 00:30:05,094 I mean, if we get lucky, maybe... 691 00:30:05,676 --> 00:30:07,054 maybe a couple of months. 692 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,682 A couple of months... 693 00:30:10,891 --> 00:30:11,893 [sighs] 694 00:30:12,684 --> 00:30:15,646 Tara, it took almost a year to get the evidence released. 695 00:30:16,605 --> 00:30:18,607 Oh, okay. 696 00:30:20,608 --> 00:30:22,653 Okay. Thank you. Sorry Gab, I'm just... 697 00:30:23,362 --> 00:30:24,989 -I know. -Yeah, you know, it's just... 698 00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:26,990 Thank you though. 699 00:30:27,699 --> 00:30:28,910 That's, uh, yeah, that's it. 700 00:30:29,116 --> 00:30:31,119 Thank you for everything. I'll call you later. 701 00:30:31,494 --> 00:30:33,122 -Okay. I'll talk to you later. -Okay, bye. 702 00:30:33,997 --> 00:30:34,999 [call ends] 703 00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:37,416 God dammit. 704 00:30:37,835 --> 00:30:39,086 [groans] 705 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:42,965 This is ridiculous! 706 00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:48,054 ♪ 707 00:30:57,689 --> 00:30:59,941 -I can do it. I can do it. -Well, it's easier if I do it. 708 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:00,942 I know. 709 00:31:06,529 --> 00:31:07,698 -Okay. -Good luck. 710 00:31:07,698 --> 00:31:08,866 Thank you. Let's go. 711 00:31:12,618 --> 00:31:13,996 Ah... shit. 712 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:29,428 Showtime. 713 00:31:29,678 --> 00:31:32,182 Hi. Uh, I called ahead. My name is Tara Nichols. 714 00:31:32,182 --> 00:31:33,557 [Police Officer] Uh... okay? 715 00:31:33,557 --> 00:31:35,518 My family has a release of evidence on a case 716 00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:37,103 that's been closed. I got... I got the... 717 00:31:37,644 --> 00:31:39,730 uh, this paper thing here. 718 00:31:39,730 --> 00:31:41,064 My lawyer provided me with that. 719 00:31:41,064 --> 00:31:42,733 So, you're here to... 720 00:31:42,733 --> 00:31:44,443 Yeah, there was additional evidence that wasn't 721 00:31:44,443 --> 00:31:45,612 returned to the family. 722 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:46,694 I'm here to pick it up. 723 00:31:46,987 --> 00:31:48,198 Uh... okay. 724 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,490 Take a seat over there please. 725 00:31:50,490 --> 00:31:51,909 Okay. Uh, thank you. 726 00:31:56,913 --> 00:31:59,082 I mean, how long does this stuff usually take? 727 00:32:01,544 --> 00:32:02,961 Is this-- oh, Ryan, Ryan. 728 00:32:03,545 --> 00:32:04,546 Ryan. 729 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:11,471 For real? 730 00:32:12,096 --> 00:32:13,512 Clerical error? 731 00:32:14,097 --> 00:32:15,766 Fucking clerical error? 732 00:32:15,766 --> 00:32:18,644 Okay. Are you... fucking kidding me. 733 00:32:18,644 --> 00:32:20,645 Go. Drive. Clerical error? 734 00:32:25,483 --> 00:32:26,486 [Tara exhales] 735 00:32:34,576 --> 00:32:35,911 [Tara] Do you see what I'm saying though? 736 00:32:35,911 --> 00:32:37,955 Do you see how that's pretty, that's just, that's messed up. 737 00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:40,582 It's crazy. I don't-- I, I don't know. I don't know. 738 00:32:40,582 --> 00:32:43,502 Honestly, I don't even know what to say anymore 739 00:32:43,502 --> 00:32:45,505 because this just seems too much. 740 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:47,506 It's like thing after thing. Really, really? 741 00:32:47,506 --> 00:32:49,509 And, and this, like, this, this is the one thing 742 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,510 that gets missed? I don't, I don't know. 743 00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:54,721 I just, I think that's, that's so fucking convenient for Pam. 744 00:32:54,721 --> 00:32:55,890 That this is the one thing. 745 00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:57,015 I don't, I don't buy it. 746 00:32:57,015 --> 00:33:00,644 How is this happening? How, how, how does it take me 747 00:33:00,644 --> 00:33:03,605 going through the manifest and, and, and having this feeling 748 00:33:03,605 --> 00:33:05,525 that something is just not right in order 749 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:08,068 for all of this to finally happen? 750 00:33:08,068 --> 00:33:09,069 Like... 751 00:33:09,694 --> 00:33:11,990 I mean, isn't that why you're doing this process? 752 00:33:12,823 --> 00:33:14,992 To figure things out. To clear it up. 753 00:33:16,576 --> 00:33:17,994 Yes. It, but... 754 00:33:19,871 --> 00:33:21,957 Right. You're right. I know. 755 00:33:23,875 --> 00:33:25,585 All right, should be good to go. 756 00:33:25,585 --> 00:33:27,003 You just hit play. 757 00:33:27,003 --> 00:33:28,006 Okay. 758 00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:29,715 Sure you wanna do this? 759 00:33:30,924 --> 00:33:32,050 I have to. 760 00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:33,676 You could wait. 761 00:33:35,304 --> 00:33:37,015 I've waited 20 years. 762 00:33:39,224 --> 00:33:39,392 [suspenseful music plays] 763 00:33:39,432 --> 00:33:41,978 [suspenseful music plays] 764 00:34:00,704 --> 00:34:02,789 [Tara sobs] 765 00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:06,711 [Tara sobs] 766 00:34:07,127 --> 00:34:09,255 -Dude, come on. -Matt. I'm tired. 767 00:34:09,255 --> 00:34:10,588 Dude, what did you expect? 768 00:34:10,588 --> 00:34:12,090 You expect we were just gonna come off the road 769 00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:13,175 and find it immediately? 770 00:34:13,175 --> 00:34:14,885 -No. I, I... -Come on, man. 771 00:34:14,885 --> 00:34:17,096 No, dude. They said the river with the fallen tree. 772 00:34:17,096 --> 00:34:19,139 -The fallen tree's right there. -No, no. We went this way. 773 00:34:19,139 --> 00:34:20,306 -Shut up. Come on. -Matt. Matt! 774 00:34:20,306 --> 00:34:22,059 We did not come this way before, come on. 775 00:34:22,059 --> 00:34:23,811 Oh, my God, dude! 776 00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:25,271 We found it, man! 777 00:34:25,271 --> 00:34:26,813 Dude, we did! 778 00:34:26,813 --> 00:34:28,231 Okay, okay. Frame up, frame up, frame up. 779 00:34:29,108 --> 00:34:31,902 I give you the hunting lodge of... 780 00:34:31,902 --> 00:34:33,780 -Drum roll, please. -[imitates drum roll] 781 00:34:33,987 --> 00:34:36,114 The infamous Roy Mackenzie! 782 00:34:36,114 --> 00:34:38,240 Whoo! [laughs] 783 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:39,701 Where do you wanna set up? 784 00:34:39,701 --> 00:34:40,786 Uh, I'm not sure. 785 00:34:40,786 --> 00:34:41,954 Where do you wanna do the thing? 786 00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:43,331 Uh, I think right here. 787 00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:48,753 Teern Mazoon. 788 00:34:49,795 --> 00:34:51,755 Helash Inzotta. 789 00:34:51,755 --> 00:34:52,880 Bun-Ganu. 790 00:34:53,715 --> 00:34:56,134 Methuna Denna Melakta. 791 00:34:57,637 --> 00:35:00,222 Methuna Denna Melakta. 792 00:35:00,931 --> 00:35:03,266 Methuna Denna Melakta! 793 00:35:05,351 --> 00:35:06,936 Squeeze. 794 00:35:06,936 --> 00:35:08,105 [breathing heavily] 795 00:35:09,773 --> 00:35:10,900 [whispers] 796 00:35:12,067 --> 00:35:13,652 [creature chitters] 797 00:35:16,195 --> 00:35:17,824 [rumbling sound] 798 00:35:18,782 --> 00:35:21,242 [boys laughing] 799 00:35:21,242 --> 00:35:24,204 [groans] 800 00:35:24,204 --> 00:35:25,329 Jordan. 801 00:35:25,329 --> 00:35:28,835 [grunting] 802 00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:29,960 Jordan! 803 00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:32,130 Something's happening. 804 00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:34,672 [retching] 805 00:35:42,014 --> 00:35:44,141 [inaudible whispering] 806 00:35:45,016 --> 00:35:46,893 This isn't funny. Dude. Matt. 807 00:35:47,936 --> 00:35:49,938 Wake up, Matt. Matt, this isn't funny. 808 00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:51,690 -Matt! -[creature chitters] 809 00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:52,773 Matt, wake up! 810 00:35:52,773 --> 00:35:54,693 -[growling] -[Jordan panicking] 811 00:35:54,693 --> 00:35:56,320 [screams] You're hurting me! 812 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,030 [screaming continues] 813 00:36:12,168 --> 00:36:13,170 [bang] 814 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,172 [bang] 815 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:19,175 [footsteps] 816 00:36:20,802 --> 00:36:24,014 [footsteps] 817 00:36:24,306 --> 00:36:26,141 [white noise] 818 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,237 -That's it? -Mm-hmm. 819 00:37:03,052 --> 00:37:05,347 Well, I guess we know where the Satan rumors came from. 820 00:37:05,347 --> 00:37:06,349 Yeah. 821 00:37:08,307 --> 00:37:09,434 You think it's fake? 822 00:37:10,936 --> 00:37:12,188 Yeah. [scoffs] 823 00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:14,813 Want to explain it for the... 824 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:17,233 Yeah. Um... 825 00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:22,155 Well, I mean, they loved The Blair Witch Project. 826 00:37:22,155 --> 00:37:23,407 -I mean, that's been clear. -Mm-hmm. 827 00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:25,201 We've literally seen the footage you digitized. 828 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:27,077 They, they did shot for shot. 829 00:37:27,369 --> 00:37:28,869 Right? Okay. 830 00:37:28,869 --> 00:37:31,498 So I am saying that that footage 831 00:37:31,998 --> 00:37:34,251 has to be for sure staged. 832 00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:37,963 Right? [stutters] here's a theory. 833 00:37:37,963 --> 00:37:40,257 I agree with Pam. I agree with what she said. 834 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,425 Is that the boys, Halloween night, 835 00:37:43,927 --> 00:37:48,097 go up to Black Bear Forest to that cabin to shoot 836 00:37:48,097 --> 00:37:49,391 their Blair Witch, Roy Mackenzie. 837 00:37:49,391 --> 00:37:51,978 Which, that name sounds fake, by the way. 838 00:37:51,978 --> 00:37:53,271 I've always wanted to say that. 839 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:56,273 And they get to the cabin, they put the camcorder there. 840 00:37:56,273 --> 00:37:57,398 They go. Right? 841 00:37:57,398 --> 00:37:59,233 They put it there so somebody could find it 842 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:03,028 and the mystery of what that whole thing is. Right? 843 00:38:03,028 --> 00:38:04,447 They're on their way back to town, 844 00:38:04,447 --> 00:38:05,572 they get turned around, 845 00:38:05,572 --> 00:38:07,284 pretty easy up there in that forest, 846 00:38:07,284 --> 00:38:09,327 and one falls down a ravine. 847 00:38:09,996 --> 00:38:11,496 And then, that's... 848 00:38:12,414 --> 00:38:14,875 that's just, yeah, that's kind of it. 849 00:38:14,875 --> 00:38:18,210 I mean, anything on that video you and I could've done 850 00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:19,588 and we could go in the forest and shoot. 851 00:38:19,588 --> 00:38:20,963 Yeah, you and I could've done it. 852 00:38:20,963 --> 00:38:22,465 -Yeah. -But let's keep in mind, 853 00:38:22,465 --> 00:38:24,342 you know, these kids were 17. 854 00:38:24,342 --> 00:38:26,052 -Yeah. -It-it's 20 years ago. 855 00:38:26,052 --> 00:38:29,181 You don't have access the same, you know, like editing, like... 856 00:38:29,181 --> 00:38:31,099 -What do you mean editing? -Compositing. Like-- 857 00:38:31,099 --> 00:38:33,018 -Did you see all the cuts? -Yeah, but it was in-camera. 858 00:38:33,018 --> 00:38:34,103 You could barely see anything! 859 00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:35,313 They're not doing it on a computer. 860 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,273 It was grainy the entire time! I'm not saying they did it 861 00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:38,481 on a computer, that it's just grainy. 862 00:38:38,481 --> 00:38:40,108 -So, it's not VFX then. -No-- practicals. 863 00:38:40,108 --> 00:38:41,985 Okay, but those are good practicals. 864 00:38:41,985 --> 00:38:43,528 I didn't say they're not bad, yeah. 865 00:38:43,528 --> 00:38:44,987 All I am saying... 866 00:38:46,322 --> 00:38:47,489 is that it's possible 867 00:38:48,032 --> 00:38:50,492 for that footage to be staged. 868 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,579 And it is more likely 869 00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:55,248 that that's the case than 870 00:38:55,248 --> 00:38:57,335 the footage actually being real. 871 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:58,878 -Mmm. -Right? 872 00:39:00,045 --> 00:39:01,338 -Yeah, of course. -Yeah. 873 00:39:02,088 --> 00:39:03,297 Yes, yes! 874 00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:04,634 Thank you. 875 00:39:06,925 --> 00:39:07,969 [exhales] 876 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:14,518 [knock at door] 877 00:39:17,311 --> 00:39:18,481 What the fuck? 878 00:39:18,481 --> 00:39:19,565 Is that our door? 879 00:39:19,565 --> 00:39:21,317 I don't know, it might've been the neighbors. 880 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,027 [louder knocks] 881 00:39:24,485 --> 00:39:25,987 Uh, that's us. That's us for sure. 882 00:39:25,987 --> 00:39:27,364 Yeah. Who is it? 883 00:39:27,364 --> 00:39:28,407 I don't know. 884 00:39:28,614 --> 00:39:29,992 Do you want to get it? 885 00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:33,371 -[knocking continues] -Yeah, yeah. Hi. 886 00:39:33,911 --> 00:39:35,246 Uh, now... it's fine. 887 00:39:35,246 --> 00:39:37,375 That's totally okay. Now is completely fine. 888 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,043 Yeah. Let me, can, can I, can I get an address from you? 889 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:41,670 Yes. 890 00:39:44,922 --> 00:39:45,923 I don't know. 891 00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:47,967 Get dressed. 892 00:39:48,594 --> 00:39:50,054 [crickets chirping] 893 00:39:51,429 --> 00:39:53,306 I put this stuff away a long time ago. 894 00:39:54,932 --> 00:39:56,393 And when your mother called and 895 00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:58,478 she said what you were doin'... 896 00:40:00,188 --> 00:40:02,608 She said it was part of your healing process. 897 00:40:02,608 --> 00:40:05,027 If I can help, then I'll try. 898 00:40:06,445 --> 00:40:08,070 Jordan was a good kid. 899 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:11,449 He was quiet. He kept to himself. 900 00:40:12,117 --> 00:40:13,451 He was a deep thinker. 901 00:40:14,577 --> 00:40:16,121 Losing a child... 902 00:40:18,373 --> 00:40:20,376 Never understanding why, it's-- 903 00:40:23,585 --> 00:40:26,632 It's one of the hardest things that a parent could ever go... 904 00:40:27,590 --> 00:40:28,675 [clears throat] 905 00:40:30,135 --> 00:40:31,219 [Tara] Yeah. 906 00:40:33,472 --> 00:40:34,639 Um, 907 00:40:35,097 --> 00:40:37,724 do you ever feel that you impeded the investigation? 908 00:40:39,603 --> 00:40:42,021 They asked the questions. We answered. 909 00:40:42,563 --> 00:40:44,398 You know, we cooperated. 910 00:40:44,648 --> 00:40:45,733 100 percent. 911 00:40:45,733 --> 00:40:48,403 You know, I just didn't think it was right that they came 912 00:40:48,403 --> 00:40:51,030 into our house and just tried to search it for no reason. 913 00:40:54,409 --> 00:40:56,244 [Tara] Uh, this is a, a difficult question, 914 00:40:56,244 --> 00:40:58,079 but I, I just have to ask. 915 00:40:59,289 --> 00:41:03,753 Did you or your wife Ronnie, ever have anything to do 916 00:41:03,753 --> 00:41:06,088 with Jordan and Matthew's disappearance? 917 00:41:06,713 --> 00:41:08,465 No. Never. 918 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:13,304 What do you think happened to Jordan and Matthew? 919 00:41:18,224 --> 00:41:21,018 I like to think that they went out into the woods together and 920 00:41:21,478 --> 00:41:23,105 came across Raven. 921 00:41:25,523 --> 00:41:27,193 They became friends with him. 922 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:29,695 Because their bond was... 923 00:41:30,527 --> 00:41:31,655 so strong. 924 00:41:33,405 --> 00:41:35,492 He made them his brothers. 925 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:38,621 And they flew off together. 926 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:41,664 Into the sky and... 927 00:41:43,208 --> 00:41:45,043 they're out there right now. 928 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:47,170 Free. 929 00:41:50,255 --> 00:41:52,259 [Tara] I don't know if you remember this, but, um, 930 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,219 one summer, back when we were all kids, 931 00:41:56,054 --> 00:41:58,347 Jordan and Matty and I were playing in that tree fort 932 00:41:58,347 --> 00:42:00,059 that we had out back. 933 00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:04,061 I, I fell off the top deck and I, I broke my arm. 934 00:42:05,188 --> 00:42:08,108 It was a clean break, but God, it hurt so bad. 935 00:42:08,108 --> 00:42:10,485 I was screaming, so scared. 936 00:42:10,693 --> 00:42:12,070 I was a little kid. 937 00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:13,570 Um... 938 00:42:14,322 --> 00:42:17,367 So, Matty went in to go get Mom, but... 939 00:42:17,367 --> 00:42:19,536 Jordan just sat there with me. 940 00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:22,329 Just stayed with me, 941 00:42:22,329 --> 00:42:24,250 told me that everything was gonna be okay. 942 00:42:25,166 --> 00:42:28,503 And then he, he took his hand and he kinda like... 943 00:42:29,128 --> 00:42:32,340 placed it over my arm, right where the, the pain was. 944 00:42:33,509 --> 00:42:38,389 And, and he started doing this kind of twisting motion. 945 00:42:39,179 --> 00:42:41,139 I think he said it was Reiki or something. 946 00:42:41,139 --> 00:42:44,103 And he said he was trying to 947 00:42:44,561 --> 00:42:46,396 draw the energy out. 948 00:42:47,563 --> 00:42:49,398 You know, we hurt ourselves. 949 00:42:50,567 --> 00:42:51,858 Pain just... 950 00:42:52,527 --> 00:42:54,405 shoots through our body in this 951 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,697 corkscrew spiral. 952 00:42:58,365 --> 00:42:59,742 If you know how, you can... 953 00:43:00,744 --> 00:43:02,329 use your hand and... 954 00:43:04,498 --> 00:43:06,291 gently move the pain away. 955 00:43:10,253 --> 00:43:11,380 I taught him that. 956 00:43:12,505 --> 00:43:13,505 Cool. 957 00:43:15,509 --> 00:43:16,594 Yeah, uh... 958 00:43:17,175 --> 00:43:19,221 I'll always remember that. I mean, it worked, it-it... 959 00:43:19,221 --> 00:43:20,556 took the pain away. 960 00:43:22,139 --> 00:43:25,561 I'll never forget Jordan, just right there with his hand 961 00:43:25,893 --> 00:43:27,186 over my arm. 962 00:43:40,407 --> 00:43:42,577 I think there's something I need to show you, Tara. 963 00:43:44,579 --> 00:43:44,746 Just, uh, watch your head up here. 964 00:43:44,746 --> 00:43:47,289 Just, uh, watch your head up here. 965 00:43:47,289 --> 00:43:48,458 Oh, thank you. 966 00:44:07,226 --> 00:44:09,188 I am hesitating to share this with you. 967 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,730 Even now. 968 00:44:18,945 --> 00:44:20,324 [sighs] 969 00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:37,297 There's things out there in this world. 970 00:44:40,927 --> 00:44:42,887 There's something out there in the forest. 971 00:44:44,472 --> 00:44:45,514 I know. 972 00:44:46,932 --> 00:44:48,351 What do you mean? 973 00:44:50,938 --> 00:44:53,648 There's things that we shouldn't speak about. 974 00:44:54,315 --> 00:44:55,442 When we do... 975 00:44:55,942 --> 00:44:57,443 it gives them power. 976 00:44:58,237 --> 00:44:59,612 Makes them real. 977 00:45:03,242 --> 00:45:05,367 This thing has that same energy and it-- 978 00:45:06,369 --> 00:45:07,788 scares the hell outta me. 979 00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:11,958 You can use it. 980 00:45:12,875 --> 00:45:13,918 Just... 981 00:45:14,543 --> 00:45:15,711 be careful. 982 00:45:22,510 --> 00:45:24,387 [ominous music plays] 983 00:45:36,692 --> 00:45:38,568 [video call ringing] 984 00:45:38,568 --> 00:45:40,945 So, were you able to review any of that, 985 00:45:40,945 --> 00:45:42,487 that stuff I sent over? 986 00:45:42,487 --> 00:45:45,742 Obviously it's more difficult to confirm authenticity 987 00:45:45,742 --> 00:45:49,536 without seeing the book, but the journal speaks to 988 00:45:49,536 --> 00:45:51,998 hunting techniques that seem appropriate to the time. 989 00:45:51,998 --> 00:45:55,626 What about the totem and the, the drawings and the... 990 00:45:55,918 --> 00:45:57,628 languages at the back of the journal? 991 00:45:57,628 --> 00:45:59,755 There certainly appears to be some form of 992 00:46:00,047 --> 00:46:01,507 religious practices. 993 00:46:01,507 --> 00:46:03,634 I'm not an expert in linguistics, 994 00:46:03,634 --> 00:46:05,596 but the handwriting looks too modern. 995 00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:08,766 So, I'm not sure if it was your brother or someone else 996 00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:09,891 who could have added it. 997 00:46:09,891 --> 00:46:10,932 As for the totem, 998 00:46:10,932 --> 00:46:12,726 it, it looks like something your brother 999 00:46:12,726 --> 00:46:14,896 and his friend could've made, I... 1000 00:46:15,313 --> 00:46:17,733 I don't know whether they did it based off 1001 00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:20,068 ideas they got from the journal 1002 00:46:20,610 --> 00:46:22,570 or from somewhere else. 1003 00:46:29,994 --> 00:46:31,996 It's just what we talked about, right? 1004 00:46:33,498 --> 00:46:34,625 Yep. 1005 00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:36,710 Okay, you're just gonna stick to the questions. 1006 00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:38,836 Don't go all... 1007 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,963 You know. 1008 00:46:41,672 --> 00:46:42,757 No, I don't. What? 1009 00:46:42,757 --> 00:46:45,094 Just, you're just... sticking to the questions, right? 1010 00:46:46,385 --> 00:46:47,719 Yeah. I know. 1011 00:46:48,804 --> 00:46:49,806 Thank you Pam, for coming back. 1012 00:46:49,806 --> 00:46:50,889 You're welcome. 1013 00:46:50,889 --> 00:46:52,643 -We really appreciate it. -Yeah, you're welcome. 1014 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:53,726 Thank you so much, and, uh... 1015 00:46:53,726 --> 00:46:55,061 I'm glad it worked out you could come here. 1016 00:46:55,061 --> 00:46:55,978 -Yeah. 1017 00:46:55,978 --> 00:46:56,938 -It's good to see you all again. 1018 00:46:56,938 --> 00:46:57,981 -You too. -Yeah, good to see you. 1019 00:46:57,981 --> 00:46:59,817 Um, great. So, we're just gonna do the same thing 1020 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:00,900 like we did last time. 1021 00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,568 Tara's gonna be conducting the interview. 1022 00:47:02,568 --> 00:47:03,987 -Yep. -Um, and, uh... 1023 00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:05,072 -So, yeah, talk to her. [laughs] 1024 00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:05,987 -Okay. 1025 00:47:05,987 --> 00:47:06,989 And, uh, yeah, whenever you two are ready. 1026 00:47:06,989 --> 00:47:07,989 Thank you. 1027 00:47:07,989 --> 00:47:09,076 -All right. -Okay. 1028 00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:10,076 -Yeah, I'm good. -Yep. 1029 00:47:10,534 --> 00:47:11,536 Okay. 1030 00:47:13,496 --> 00:47:14,831 So, I've seen the DV. 1031 00:47:15,373 --> 00:47:18,501 The one that you hid from the evidence report. 1032 00:47:18,501 --> 00:47:20,128 -For fuck's sake. -And-- stop. 1033 00:47:20,128 --> 00:47:21,963 And the, the totem, the totem that 1034 00:47:22,505 --> 00:47:23,840 you guys found out in the woods. 1035 00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:26,800 -Why did you do that? -Tara, can we just talk-- 1036 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,762 Why? I-I'm just asking a question. 1037 00:47:28,762 --> 00:47:30,887 It... the tape is a piece of evidence. 1038 00:47:31,514 --> 00:47:33,724 I mean, you didn't, you didn't destroy evidence, but you... 1039 00:47:33,932 --> 00:47:35,726 you did hide it. So, I just wanna know, 1040 00:47:35,726 --> 00:47:36,811 why did you do that? 1041 00:47:36,811 --> 00:47:38,103 I don't know what you're talking about. 1042 00:47:38,103 --> 00:47:39,398 -You don't? -Markian. Markian. 1043 00:47:39,398 --> 00:47:40,940 -This is not cool. -Okay. 1044 00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,402 I'm just saying this is a valid question! 1045 00:47:43,402 --> 00:47:44,862 Stop, stop. Stop recording. 1046 00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:46,487 [overlapping arguing] 1047 00:47:46,487 --> 00:47:47,530 Stop recording. 1048 00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:50,074 I'm not comfortable having this recorded. 1049 00:47:50,074 --> 00:47:51,909 Fine. I don't have to ask. We can turn off the cameras. 1050 00:47:52,702 --> 00:47:55,164 You know, I can still see the red light, so... 1051 00:47:55,164 --> 00:47:56,998 -[Tara] Pam... -It's just, it's just power. 1052 00:47:56,998 --> 00:47:58,875 -We're gonna take the cameras-- -Respectfully. We are-- 1053 00:47:58,875 --> 00:48:00,710 -We'll Get the cameras out. -Stand down, thank you. 1054 00:48:00,710 --> 00:48:01,751 Yes. That's what we said. 1055 00:48:01,751 --> 00:48:03,045 -Yes, give me two seconds. -I know. 1056 00:48:03,422 --> 00:48:05,548 [Tara] Okay, just go in that other room. Pam... 1057 00:48:05,548 --> 00:48:06,632 I'm-I'm gone. 1058 00:48:06,632 --> 00:48:07,717 -I'm off. -Sorry. 1059 00:48:07,717 --> 00:48:10,469 Let me just get this out here 'cause I wanna ask... 1060 00:48:10,887 --> 00:48:12,429 Okay. Okay. 1061 00:48:12,762 --> 00:48:14,099 -Cameras are off? -Yes. 1062 00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:15,474 -Yup, cameras are off. -Yeah. 1063 00:48:15,474 --> 00:48:16,518 Here we go. 1064 00:48:16,893 --> 00:48:18,018 That cabin. 1065 00:48:19,061 --> 00:48:20,731 -What about it? -Where is it? Where is it? 1066 00:48:21,771 --> 00:48:23,065 I need to know where that cabin is, 1067 00:48:23,065 --> 00:48:24,775 so you're gonna show me on this map. 1068 00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:26,445 You can either show me-- 1069 00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:27,652 Tara, you don't need to go up there. 1070 00:48:27,652 --> 00:48:28,780 Or I will go up there by myself 1071 00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:29,947 with no idea where I'm going. 1072 00:48:29,947 --> 00:48:32,451 Tara there is nothing up there. 1073 00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:34,076 We knocked the cabin down. 1074 00:48:37,456 --> 00:48:39,081 Uh, why would you do that? 1075 00:48:41,585 --> 00:48:43,461 Well, because it was dangerous. 1076 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,545 You have to understand the context. 1077 00:48:45,545 --> 00:48:47,672 Okay, so why-- I'm sorry, why didn't you tell anybody 1078 00:48:47,672 --> 00:48:49,090 about the camera footage then? 1079 00:48:50,594 --> 00:48:52,094 -Do you know-- -Answer my question. 1080 00:48:52,094 --> 00:48:53,597 -Answer my question! -I am answering-- 1081 00:48:53,597 --> 00:48:56,097 Stop that! Stop speaking to me like that. 1082 00:48:56,097 --> 00:48:57,643 You're in my home. 1083 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,900 If I couldn't see how much this has affected you, 1084 00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:07,652 I would throw you out. 1085 00:49:07,945 --> 00:49:11,030 So, you just listen. If you want my answers. 1086 00:49:13,951 --> 00:49:16,242 You were just a child, so you may not remember, 1087 00:49:16,242 --> 00:49:19,829 but the town was absolutely paranoid ten days after 1088 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:21,958 Jordan and Matthew disappeared. 1089 00:49:21,958 --> 00:49:24,126 And there was outright hostility toward 1090 00:49:24,126 --> 00:49:25,795 the Reimer family. 1091 00:49:25,795 --> 00:49:29,507 And people ta-talking about devil worship and cults 1092 00:49:29,507 --> 00:49:31,175 and satanic rituals. 1093 00:49:31,175 --> 00:49:33,969 So given that, we, the authorities, could see 1094 00:49:33,969 --> 00:49:36,722 that we were in danger of losing control of the situation 1095 00:49:36,722 --> 00:49:38,724 and that's when we found that tape. 1096 00:49:38,724 --> 00:49:40,184 -Mm-hmm. -After that. 1097 00:49:40,184 --> 00:49:41,268 -Mm-hmm. -Right? 1098 00:49:41,268 --> 00:49:42,813 -Mm-hmm. -So you've seen that tape? 1099 00:49:42,813 --> 00:49:44,773 -Mm-hmm. -Given that context, 1100 00:49:44,773 --> 00:49:46,856 what do you think we should have done? 1101 00:49:46,856 --> 00:49:48,108 I think you should've done your job. 1102 00:49:48,108 --> 00:49:50,612 I think that you should've investigated a crime scene 1103 00:49:50,612 --> 00:49:51,612 as you're suppo-- 1104 00:49:51,822 --> 00:49:53,030 Sorry. [scoffs] 1105 00:49:53,864 --> 00:49:54,864 Tara. 1106 00:49:55,657 --> 00:49:58,911 That cabin-- we couldn't even prove that a crime 1107 00:49:58,911 --> 00:50:00,204 had taken place. 1108 00:50:01,623 --> 00:50:05,543 It was so implausible, we didn't for one moment, 1109 00:50:05,543 --> 00:50:08,255 entertain the possibility that it was real. 1110 00:50:08,255 --> 00:50:10,880 There was the cabin, there was a camera 1111 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,550 with your brother and Jordan's fingerprints all over it, 1112 00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:15,554 and no other evidence. 1113 00:50:15,554 --> 00:50:17,097 So, you've seen that tape. 1114 00:50:17,097 --> 00:50:19,764 Don't you think there should've been some skin? 1115 00:50:19,974 --> 00:50:21,559 Or some blood? 1116 00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:24,186 Or some bits of bone? Or a body? 1117 00:50:24,603 --> 00:50:27,648 Or a sign of a struggle? But there was none of that. 1118 00:50:29,858 --> 00:50:31,110 -There was-- -There was none of that! 1119 00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:32,653 There was no evidence. 1120 00:50:33,572 --> 00:50:34,989 And so there was a... 1121 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,701 a meeting behind closed doors with the mayor and, uh, the... 1122 00:50:39,661 --> 00:50:41,871 the investigative team and the... 1123 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:43,206 the officers from the south. 1124 00:50:43,206 --> 00:50:46,125 The Commanding Officer for the island for Christ's sake. 1125 00:50:46,585 --> 00:50:48,586 And the situation was discussed, 1126 00:50:48,753 --> 00:50:51,590 and it was decided that if we released that tape, 1127 00:50:51,590 --> 00:50:54,967 we were in danger of creating mass hysteria in the town. 1128 00:50:54,967 --> 00:50:56,594 So, we didn't. 1129 00:50:57,344 --> 00:50:59,304 The official report was written. 1130 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:03,601 Matthew and Jordan went into the woods and they got lost and 1131 00:51:03,893 --> 00:51:05,186 fell down a ravine. 1132 00:51:11,067 --> 00:51:12,777 But that tape. Hmm? 1133 00:51:15,112 --> 00:51:17,282 Why wouldn't you tell my parents about that tape? 1134 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,827 You were okay with them just, what, suffering for-- 1135 00:51:21,077 --> 00:51:22,329 -Tara, no. -Years? 1136 00:51:22,329 --> 00:51:23,914 Tell them what? 1137 00:51:24,748 --> 00:51:26,375 Tell them what? 1138 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:32,713 That I had a tape of their only son 1139 00:51:32,713 --> 00:51:35,007 practicing a satanic ritual? 1140 00:51:37,675 --> 00:51:39,887 How could I do that to your family? 1141 00:51:50,856 --> 00:51:52,650 Look, I wrote my report. 1142 00:51:52,858 --> 00:51:54,402 I wrote what I think happened. 1143 00:51:54,777 --> 00:51:56,695 And maybe I left out some details, 1144 00:51:56,695 --> 00:51:58,364 but I think it was the most decent way 1145 00:51:58,364 --> 00:51:59,864 to put what I saw. 1146 00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:04,202 I'm sorry what happened to you and your family. 1147 00:52:04,202 --> 00:52:06,413 I can see that it's had a terrible effect on you 1148 00:52:06,413 --> 00:52:08,083 and I hope you get some help. 1149 00:52:10,918 --> 00:52:13,422 Jesus. I prayed about this. God. 1150 00:52:15,797 --> 00:52:19,010 I prayed to God to ask him what he would have me do. 1151 00:52:21,096 --> 00:52:24,889 And I decided that this was the, the best thing 1152 00:52:24,889 --> 00:52:26,309 and the right thing to do. 1153 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:28,228 So I hope you understand that. 1154 00:52:28,228 --> 00:52:29,728 But even if you don't... 1155 00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:31,356 the official report... 1156 00:52:32,856 --> 00:52:35,442 Is as far as anyone on the investigative team 1157 00:52:35,442 --> 00:52:38,697 could or can understand the situation, so... 1158 00:52:39,237 --> 00:52:40,947 I don't think you should go up north. 1159 00:52:40,947 --> 00:52:42,451 I don't think you should go into the woods. 1160 00:52:42,451 --> 00:52:43,909 There's nothing there. 1161 00:52:45,327 --> 00:52:47,914 I think you'd be far better off facing the fact 1162 00:52:47,914 --> 00:52:49,956 that your brother is gone, Tara. 1163 00:52:50,833 --> 00:52:51,960 He's gone. 1164 00:52:52,251 --> 00:52:54,003 And he's not coming back. 1165 00:53:06,849 --> 00:53:08,143 Okay. Can I... 1166 00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:09,976 Can I just take a quick second? 1167 00:53:09,976 --> 00:53:11,061 -Yeah. -Okay. 1168 00:53:11,896 --> 00:53:13,063 -Thank you. -You bet. 1169 00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:16,150 [Tara sniffles] 1170 00:53:16,483 --> 00:53:18,860 I'm... just fine. I just have to go to the bathroom. 1171 00:53:18,860 --> 00:53:19,905 I'm fine though. 1172 00:53:20,864 --> 00:53:21,907 [Tara stifles a sob] 1173 00:53:21,907 --> 00:53:22,949 I'm sorry. 1174 00:53:23,364 --> 00:53:25,242 You have to get her some help. 1175 00:53:25,242 --> 00:53:26,869 -I know. -This is terrible. 1176 00:53:26,869 --> 00:53:28,454 I know. But, thank you. Um... 1177 00:53:28,996 --> 00:53:30,831 -We're gonna get outta here. -Okay, we're done. 1178 00:53:30,831 --> 00:53:32,208 -We're done. -I know. Yeah, thank you, Pam. 1179 00:53:32,750 --> 00:53:34,460 ♪ 1180 00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:44,219 [waves lapping] 1181 00:53:54,271 --> 00:53:55,273 I think we're 1182 00:53:55,898 --> 00:53:57,817 at that point where this process is doing 1183 00:53:57,817 --> 00:53:59,818 more harm than good. 1184 00:54:01,402 --> 00:54:02,987 It was supposed to help her, but it's 1185 00:54:03,782 --> 00:54:05,199 clearly doing the opposite. 1186 00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:14,416 What the fuck is she doing? 1187 00:54:17,003 --> 00:54:18,003 Hey! 1188 00:54:18,797 --> 00:54:19,797 Tara? 1189 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,840 Tara! 1190 00:54:25,971 --> 00:54:26,972 Tara! 1191 00:54:30,014 --> 00:54:32,268 [music intensifies] 1192 00:54:36,981 --> 00:54:39,358 [machines beep] 1193 00:54:50,869 --> 00:54:52,289 So you think we call it? 1194 00:54:54,123 --> 00:54:56,166 Uh, I think that's up to you, man. 1195 00:54:58,210 --> 00:54:59,545 It seems like... 1196 00:55:01,005 --> 00:55:04,259 It seems like she's going through a lot of intense 1197 00:55:04,259 --> 00:55:06,010 feelings and memories 1198 00:55:07,052 --> 00:55:09,346 that she hasn't dealt with in a long time. 1199 00:55:10,472 --> 00:55:12,099 I don't know if it's good for her. 1200 00:55:23,485 --> 00:55:25,030 Okay, I'm calling it. 1201 00:55:30,201 --> 00:55:31,492 -Hey. -Hey. 1202 00:55:31,911 --> 00:55:32,954 How you doing? 1203 00:55:33,329 --> 00:55:34,331 Okay. 1204 00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:39,001 So, they're gonna discharge you. 1205 00:55:39,293 --> 00:55:41,920 But the doctors recommend that you get some rest. 1206 00:55:42,963 --> 00:55:45,965 So, I'm gonna book us on a ferry off the island 1207 00:55:47,134 --> 00:55:48,637 and we're all gonna go home. 1208 00:55:50,554 --> 00:55:51,554 Okay? 1209 00:55:53,139 --> 00:55:54,141 Okay. 1210 00:55:56,518 --> 00:55:59,103 Look, Tara, making this movie is one thing. 1211 00:55:59,938 --> 00:56:02,523 But your health is obviously more important. 1212 00:56:04,652 --> 00:56:05,652 Yeah. 1213 00:56:07,155 --> 00:56:08,322 Yeah. Okay. 1214 00:56:10,324 --> 00:56:11,367 [Brenda] Promise me 1215 00:56:12,034 --> 00:56:13,494 you won't let this overwhelm you. 1216 00:56:14,371 --> 00:56:14,536 [Tara] I won't. 1217 00:56:14,536 --> 00:56:15,413 [Tara] I won't. 1218 00:56:16,329 --> 00:56:18,206 Mom, I won't. I promise. 1219 00:56:19,166 --> 00:56:20,376 Come here. Give me a hug. 1220 00:56:21,418 --> 00:56:22,420 Hey. 1221 00:56:27,132 --> 00:56:29,219 I watched your father go through this. 1222 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:30,552 Trying to find Matthew. 1223 00:56:31,929 --> 00:56:33,347 Don't stay here long. 1224 00:56:34,389 --> 00:56:36,393 Maybe we're not supposed to know everything. 1225 00:56:40,103 --> 00:56:41,271 I love you, Mom. 1226 00:56:42,563 --> 00:56:43,606 I love you. 1227 00:56:46,110 --> 00:56:47,403 My little girl. 1228 00:56:51,322 --> 00:56:52,657 My little girl. 1229 00:56:55,577 --> 00:56:57,079 [thunder rumbles] 1230 00:56:59,956 --> 00:57:02,126 [seagulls cawing] 1231 00:57:07,297 --> 00:57:09,175 Filming the sad director packing up? 1232 00:57:09,175 --> 00:57:10,592 -Yep. -Yeah. Nice. 1233 00:57:16,264 --> 00:57:17,684 Hey, um, you guys take the van. 1234 00:57:17,684 --> 00:57:19,978 Just leave me one of those camera packs. Okay? 1235 00:57:19,978 --> 00:57:20,978 What? 1236 00:57:21,478 --> 00:57:23,146 -What are you doing? -I gotta go up there. 1237 00:57:23,146 --> 00:57:25,023 -Stop. No. Tara, stop. -I gotta see what's up there. 1238 00:57:25,023 --> 00:57:26,483 Markian, I gotta see the cabin. Okay? 1239 00:57:26,483 --> 00:57:28,360 -No, stop! Tara, stop. -What? 1240 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,114 There is nothing up there. Okay? 1241 00:57:31,530 --> 00:57:33,449 Pam told us they knocked it down. 1242 00:57:33,449 --> 00:57:34,532 -No. -It's the end of story. 1243 00:57:34,532 --> 00:57:36,117 -Pam lied to us. -I'm not just walking up-- 1244 00:57:36,117 --> 00:57:37,161 Pam lied to us before. 1245 00:57:37,161 --> 00:57:38,746 How do we know that she's not lying to us again? 1246 00:57:38,746 --> 00:57:39,706 -That is such paranoid thinking. 1247 00:57:39,706 --> 00:57:40,706 -Okay, well you know what? 1248 00:57:40,706 --> 00:57:41,539 -You don't have to come with me. 1249 00:57:41,539 --> 00:57:42,416 -No. 1250 00:57:42,416 --> 00:57:43,750 You don't have to come with me, Markian! 1251 00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:45,586 Do you understand what you're doing right now? 1252 00:57:45,586 --> 00:57:48,422 Do you understand the position that puts me in? Okay? 1253 00:57:48,422 --> 00:57:49,465 What does that even-- 1254 00:57:49,465 --> 00:57:50,715 I'm responsible for this production. 1255 00:57:50,715 --> 00:57:52,009 I'm responsible for your safety. 1256 00:57:52,009 --> 00:57:53,469 Oh, fuck off. You are not responsible for me! 1257 00:57:53,469 --> 00:57:55,472 -You're not in charge of me! -Yes, I am. Oh, come on, Tara. 1258 00:57:56,014 --> 00:57:57,014 You're not. 1259 00:57:57,722 --> 00:57:59,141 Okay. Okay, okay. Fine, fine. 1260 00:57:59,141 --> 00:58:00,518 If you are, if you are responsible for this 1261 00:58:00,518 --> 00:58:02,686 you're the director, right? This is your movie. Hmm? 1262 00:58:03,438 --> 00:58:05,481 What do we have? How does this movie end? 1263 00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:07,442 Tell me. No, really, how does this cut together? 1264 00:58:07,442 --> 00:58:10,527 It ends, and then we what? We all run home happy? 1265 00:58:10,527 --> 00:58:11,695 -And we roll the credits. 1266 00:58:11,695 --> 00:58:13,197 -It ends with you finding peace. 1267 00:58:13,197 --> 00:58:14,322 -Tara. Okay? -Peace. 1268 00:58:14,322 --> 00:58:15,532 -Peace. -Peace? Fuck off with peace. 1269 00:58:15,532 --> 00:58:17,409 -Stop, don't touch me. -Don't talk to me about peace. 1270 00:58:17,409 --> 00:58:18,411 Don't talk to me about peace. 1271 00:58:18,619 --> 00:58:19,788 You have no idea. 1272 00:58:20,329 --> 00:58:21,329 I know... 1273 00:58:21,623 --> 00:58:23,123 I know nothing. 1274 00:58:23,666 --> 00:58:26,168 I know less about my brother now than when we even 1275 00:58:26,168 --> 00:58:27,710 started this whole thing. 1276 00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:29,422 [Tara sighs] 1277 00:58:32,548 --> 00:58:34,425 Okay, Tara. Tara? Just come here. 1278 00:58:34,425 --> 00:58:35,512 -Just give me a second. -I know. 1279 00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:37,304 -Can we just-- [exhales] -Give me a second, please. 1280 00:58:37,764 --> 00:58:42,434 [exhales] Can we just please, please just breathe. 1281 00:58:42,643 --> 00:58:44,728 Just fucking... oof. 1282 00:58:44,728 --> 00:58:46,188 -I'm breathing. -This is so intense. 1283 00:58:46,188 --> 00:58:47,231 -I know. -Okay? 1284 00:58:47,231 --> 00:58:48,523 -This is so fucking intense... -I know. 1285 00:58:48,523 --> 00:58:50,358 and it's little fucking scary, okay? 1286 00:58:50,358 --> 00:58:52,110 [Markian exhales] 1287 00:58:53,530 --> 00:58:54,780 I get it. I get it. 1288 00:58:54,780 --> 00:58:56,239 I get-- I get it. 1289 00:58:58,367 --> 00:59:00,369 We will go to that cabin, okay. 1290 00:59:00,369 --> 00:59:01,746 Or whatever the fuck is up there. 1291 00:59:02,329 --> 00:59:04,498 We just... I need to do it properly. 1292 00:59:04,706 --> 00:59:06,291 Okay? We need more support people. 1293 00:59:06,291 --> 00:59:07,585 -We need the right equipment. -Properly? 1294 00:59:07,585 --> 00:59:09,210 What does that even mean? Doing it properly? 1295 00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:10,211 -We need to take time with this. 1296 00:59:10,211 --> 00:59:11,338 -Okay, what, are you gonna go 1297 00:59:11,338 --> 00:59:14,132 back home and beg people for money to help you come up here 1298 00:59:14,132 --> 00:59:15,134 and finish your movie? You know 1299 00:59:15,134 --> 00:59:16,219 that's not gonna happen. 1300 00:59:16,219 --> 00:59:18,096 Markian, you know that's not gonna happen. Okay? 1301 00:59:18,096 --> 00:59:19,222 You know it. 1302 00:59:19,222 --> 00:59:21,224 We are here right now. 1303 00:59:21,556 --> 00:59:24,184 We are going right now. I'm going. 1304 00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:26,771 You can stay or you can come with me. 1305 00:59:41,702 --> 00:59:43,746 Can you fucking speak up for once? 1306 00:59:44,204 --> 00:59:46,248 Just always fucking standing there. 1307 00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:54,630 Fuck! 1308 00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:57,259 ♪ 1309 01:00:03,641 --> 01:00:05,434 [inaudible mumbling] 1310 01:00:07,894 --> 01:00:10,896 As a historian, I know that humans have believed in 1311 01:00:10,896 --> 01:00:15,320 all sort of different things at various stages of existence. 1312 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,820 [Markian] I think we both recognize 1313 01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:18,907 that Tara's on a bit of a war path here. 1314 01:00:19,407 --> 01:00:20,782 And I've just... 1315 01:00:20,782 --> 01:00:23,827 I've got a concern that she's going to 1316 01:00:23,827 --> 01:00:26,623 go into that forest and wander. 1317 01:00:26,623 --> 01:00:27,623 -[Pam] Oh, no... -I'm... 1318 01:00:28,791 --> 01:00:30,291 All right, so I got the bags, 1319 01:00:30,291 --> 01:00:34,295 the tents, the sleeping bags, tarps, fire starter. 1320 01:00:34,295 --> 01:00:35,922 Now, people used to believe there was 1321 01:00:35,922 --> 01:00:37,840 a God who lived in the sun. 1322 01:00:39,175 --> 01:00:41,554 And if you left little sacrifices for him, 1323 01:00:42,512 --> 01:00:44,556 the sun would shine more often. 1324 01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,768 The location, if you don't mind sharing, 1325 01:00:47,768 --> 01:00:49,561 I would really, really appreciate 1326 01:00:49,561 --> 01:00:51,438 So we have some guidance and direction 1327 01:00:51,438 --> 01:00:52,731 of where we're going. 1328 01:00:52,731 --> 01:00:54,650 You understand there's nothing there. 1329 01:00:54,942 --> 01:00:56,610 Nowadays, most of the world 1330 01:00:56,818 --> 01:01:00,614 doesn't believe in a plurality of deities. 1331 01:01:00,614 --> 01:01:02,782 [Pam] I don't even know if it's still there, Markian. 1332 01:01:02,782 --> 01:01:05,786 But there used to be a forestry road there. 1333 01:01:06,286 --> 01:01:07,829 Is that wrong? No. 1334 01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:10,541 It demonstrates that a personal belief system 1335 01:01:10,541 --> 01:01:14,670 can be attributed to the cultural norms and customs 1336 01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:17,672 of a given society at a given time. 1337 01:01:17,672 --> 01:01:20,217 Helash Inzotta Bun-Ganu. 1338 01:01:20,217 --> 01:01:22,344 [suspenseful music plays] 1339 01:01:22,344 --> 01:01:23,679 [Pam] And you take that forestry 1340 01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:25,347 road about five kilometers 1341 01:01:25,347 --> 01:01:27,599 and it's a walk through bush, 1342 01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,851 another kilometer towards the ocean. 1343 01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:41,237 I guess I put your question back to you, Tara. 1344 01:01:42,489 --> 01:01:44,701 Do you think it's possible to summon a spirit? 1345 01:01:46,326 --> 01:01:48,411 [music intensifies] 1346 01:01:59,922 --> 01:02:01,257 -Okay. -Yeah. 1347 01:02:01,257 --> 01:02:02,427 There's your tripod. 1348 01:02:02,634 --> 01:02:04,469 -Uh, it's just a little guy. -'Kay. 1349 01:02:04,804 --> 01:02:06,806 This is FX3. 1350 01:02:06,806 --> 01:02:09,306 You've got another one in Tara's kit. 1351 01:02:09,306 --> 01:02:11,686 Batteries charged enough? We're good? 1352 01:02:11,686 --> 01:02:12,728 -Yeah. -Okay. 1353 01:02:12,728 --> 01:02:14,271 You can't shoot constantly, but almost. 1354 01:02:14,271 --> 01:02:15,355 -Yeah. -Yeah. 1355 01:02:15,355 --> 01:02:16,815 And this, you can run 'em as much as you want. 1356 01:02:16,815 --> 01:02:17,942 -Cool. -The lights, there's lots. 1357 01:02:17,942 --> 01:02:19,568 All right. Love you, thanks for doing this. 1358 01:02:19,568 --> 01:02:21,277 Thanks for setting that up. All right. 1359 01:02:21,987 --> 01:02:22,989 Thanks, buddy. 1360 01:02:23,530 --> 01:02:24,739 Please, be careful. 1361 01:02:25,824 --> 01:02:29,286 Ryan, if we are not back here tomorrow at noon, 1362 01:02:29,911 --> 01:02:31,579 you call someone. Okay? 1363 01:02:31,579 --> 01:02:32,873 Who do you want me to call? 1364 01:02:33,914 --> 01:02:36,585 Well, Pam knows where it is, but I don't know, uh... 1365 01:02:37,586 --> 01:02:38,713 The cops. 1366 01:02:40,297 --> 01:02:41,715 -'Kay, let's go. -Okay. 1367 01:02:46,054 --> 01:02:48,304 [bird squawking] 1368 01:03:02,402 --> 01:03:05,072 ♪ [female vocalizing] ♪ 1369 01:03:12,746 --> 01:03:14,456 So, once we get to the spot, 1370 01:03:15,041 --> 01:03:16,458 what's the plan? 1371 01:03:17,751 --> 01:03:20,963 Just get some B-roll, you know, experience the environment. 1372 01:03:21,505 --> 01:03:22,797 Say goodbye. 1373 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,010 Uh, Tara... 1374 01:03:26,802 --> 01:03:28,552 she just had to race up here. 1375 01:03:29,637 --> 01:03:32,641 Couldn't do it with more people or properly 1376 01:03:32,891 --> 01:03:34,643 'cause she's gotta do her thing. 1377 01:03:35,811 --> 01:03:36,813 Hey! 1378 01:03:37,103 --> 01:03:39,481 -What? -Do you know where we're going? 1379 01:03:39,481 --> 01:03:41,358 I'm following the map, Markian. 1380 01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:46,072 Look. 1381 01:03:46,655 --> 01:03:47,822 Tree by the river. 1382 01:03:48,824 --> 01:03:49,951 Right there. 1383 01:03:57,706 --> 01:03:58,791 Hey. 1384 01:03:59,501 --> 01:04:00,628 What's up? 1385 01:04:01,378 --> 01:04:02,503 This is it. 1386 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,048 This is it? 1387 01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:09,094 Yeah. This is where Hamilton marked, so... 1388 01:04:09,094 --> 01:04:10,137 For sure? 1389 01:04:11,387 --> 01:04:12,389 Yeah. 1390 01:04:12,681 --> 01:04:14,056 [Markian exhales] 1391 01:04:15,393 --> 01:04:16,811 So, nothing here. 1392 01:04:17,853 --> 01:04:20,021 Well, I guess they knocked it down. 1393 01:04:21,773 --> 01:04:22,898 Pam was telling the truth. 1394 01:04:22,898 --> 01:04:24,527 Okay, just wait a second though. 1395 01:04:42,878 --> 01:04:43,880 Markian. 1396 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,840 Huh? 1397 01:04:47,884 --> 01:04:49,550 Come here. Look at this. 1398 01:04:49,550 --> 01:04:50,594 What? 1399 01:04:51,844 --> 01:04:53,889 Here. You see that? 1400 01:04:55,014 --> 01:04:56,056 And there. 1401 01:04:57,684 --> 01:04:58,853 It's a circle. 1402 01:05:00,896 --> 01:05:01,981 Are you getting this? 1403 01:05:01,981 --> 01:05:03,481 Yeah. Yeah, I see it. 1404 01:05:03,481 --> 01:05:04,525 Look. 1405 01:05:04,983 --> 01:05:06,067 Here. 1406 01:05:06,568 --> 01:05:08,820 And here. This is something. 1407 01:05:09,195 --> 01:05:11,489 This... this is something. 1408 01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:16,536 Okay. 1409 01:05:17,579 --> 01:05:18,789 Let's set up here. 1410 01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:24,628 ♪ 1411 01:05:35,597 --> 01:05:35,639 [fire crackles] 1412 01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:37,056 [fire crackles] 1413 01:05:38,974 --> 01:05:41,853 So, what did you realistically expect to find out here? 1414 01:05:46,148 --> 01:05:47,608 I don't know. 1415 01:05:48,527 --> 01:05:50,655 Um, I guess just... 1416 01:05:51,155 --> 01:05:52,237 some... 1417 01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:56,201 sense of understanding of this all being... 1418 01:05:59,121 --> 01:06:00,164 I don't know. 1419 01:06:01,789 --> 01:06:04,168 I mean, I don't really know what the alternative is, so. 1420 01:06:06,128 --> 01:06:07,795 You accept that they drowned, 1421 01:06:08,963 --> 01:06:11,800 or that they fell down a ravine, 1422 01:06:12,259 --> 01:06:14,804 or got lost in a cave that nobody knows about. 1423 01:06:16,137 --> 01:06:19,934 There are alternatives if you choose to see them. 1424 01:06:22,059 --> 01:06:23,686 Okay. But... 1425 01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:29,233 those explanations are only plausible if you choose 1426 01:06:29,233 --> 01:06:32,280 to disregard what we saw on that tape. 1427 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,907 [Markian sighs] 1428 01:06:35,907 --> 01:06:36,951 There's... 1429 01:06:37,617 --> 01:06:39,829 there's, like, this idea that keeps 1430 01:06:40,204 --> 01:06:43,831 gnawing at me about what Laserge was saying about 1431 01:06:44,541 --> 01:06:46,543 beliefs being tied to cultural norms. 1432 01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:50,880 We used to believe that there was a God that lived in the sun 1433 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,842 and that the entire universe revolved around the earth. 1434 01:06:53,842 --> 01:06:56,762 So, what if now... 1435 01:06:57,594 --> 01:07:01,099 right now, we are at this point in society where we start 1436 01:07:01,099 --> 01:07:03,811 to understand that these unnatural events, 1437 01:07:03,811 --> 01:07:07,315 these events that can't be explained away by science 1438 01:07:07,315 --> 01:07:10,275 or, or the laws of nature, that these events 1439 01:07:10,733 --> 01:07:12,945 can actually happen. 1440 01:07:14,864 --> 01:07:17,114 There's just, there's just so much footage 1441 01:07:17,114 --> 01:07:20,242 out there right now that can't be rationally explained. 1442 01:07:21,994 --> 01:07:24,748 So, what if, man, like, what if we are on 1443 01:07:24,956 --> 01:07:28,753 the precipice of finally realizing that there is more 1444 01:07:28,753 --> 01:07:31,963 to this world than what we can see with our eyes? 1445 01:07:36,009 --> 01:07:37,010 [sighs] 1446 01:07:37,887 --> 01:07:40,097 You should acknowledge that you have 1447 01:07:40,097 --> 01:07:42,849 a pretty big confirmation bias. 1448 01:07:43,974 --> 01:07:46,019 Because if what you're saying is true, 1449 01:07:47,228 --> 01:07:49,606 that means you could find your brother. 1450 01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:57,072 Yeah. 1451 01:08:03,329 --> 01:08:05,956 So, you're gonna do this no matter what I say, right? 1452 01:08:11,835 --> 01:08:12,880 Yes. 1453 01:08:15,255 --> 01:08:16,256 [lighter flicks] 1454 01:08:19,761 --> 01:08:20,762 [lighter flicks] 1455 01:08:36,987 --> 01:08:38,279 You brought that thing? 1456 01:08:39,114 --> 01:08:40,114 Yep. 1457 01:08:40,989 --> 01:08:43,158 It was theirs. I know it. 1458 01:09:11,979 --> 01:09:13,148 Ah... 1459 01:09:13,898 --> 01:09:16,318 [breathing heavily] 1460 01:09:26,411 --> 01:09:29,707 Methuna... Denna... Melakta. 1461 01:09:30,332 --> 01:09:33,002 Teern Mazoon. 1462 01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:37,212 Helash Inzotta Bun-Ganu. 1463 01:09:41,301 --> 01:09:45,180 Methuna Denna Melakta. 1464 01:09:46,346 --> 01:09:52,895 Neero Teern Mazoon Helash Inzotta Bun-Ganu. 1465 01:09:54,314 --> 01:09:57,484 Methuna Denna Melakta. 1466 01:09:58,944 --> 01:10:01,488 Methuna Denna Melakta. 1467 01:10:02,072 --> 01:10:05,783 Methuna Denna Melakta. 1468 01:10:19,796 --> 01:10:21,006 Matty? 1469 01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:24,385 Matty... 1470 01:10:25,136 --> 01:10:26,471 Matty, it's me. 1471 01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:28,890 It's Tara. 1472 01:10:31,809 --> 01:10:33,978 Matty, if you can hear me, 1473 01:10:35,230 --> 01:10:37,399 if you or Jordan can hear me... 1474 01:10:38,484 --> 01:10:41,237 I want you to try to move this pendant. Okay? 1475 01:10:42,987 --> 01:10:44,279 Okay, Matty? 1476 01:10:45,405 --> 01:10:46,908 Please. 1477 01:10:48,118 --> 01:10:51,246 Please, if either one of you can hear us right now, 1478 01:10:51,246 --> 01:10:53,539 I want you to just try to move this pendant. 1479 01:10:55,833 --> 01:10:57,252 Please, Matty, please. 1480 01:10:57,502 --> 01:10:59,380 Please, can you just try to move this pendant 1481 01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:00,506 just a little? If... 1482 01:11:01,131 --> 01:11:03,382 If you are here with us, can you please... 1483 01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:05,301 Can you please-- come on, Matty! 1484 01:11:05,301 --> 01:11:06,844 Just-- can you please, just... 1485 01:11:06,844 --> 01:11:08,845 just, just move this pendant. 1486 01:11:09,097 --> 01:11:10,890 Please. Please. 1487 01:11:41,546 --> 01:11:42,881 I don't know. 1488 01:11:48,845 --> 01:11:50,179 I've tried everything. 1489 01:11:52,265 --> 01:11:54,893 I've tried every possible thing that a person can try, 1490 01:11:54,893 --> 01:11:56,060 and I just... 1491 01:11:58,063 --> 01:11:59,980 I don't know if I can do anything else. 1492 01:12:03,484 --> 01:12:04,987 I think I just 1493 01:12:05,528 --> 01:12:08,489 have to finally accept that 1494 01:12:09,948 --> 01:12:10,993 he's 1495 01:12:11,409 --> 01:12:12,493 gone. 1496 01:12:14,871 --> 01:12:16,163 He's never coming back. 1497 01:12:23,003 --> 01:12:24,171 Hey, Markian? 1498 01:12:26,050 --> 01:12:27,091 Yeah? 1499 01:12:29,052 --> 01:12:30,302 I'm really sorry. 1500 01:12:31,512 --> 01:12:33,306 -Tara, you don't have to-- -No, please just let me. 1501 01:12:34,891 --> 01:12:36,310 I'm really sorry. 1502 01:12:39,395 --> 01:12:40,898 But thank you for 1503 01:12:41,899 --> 01:12:43,106 coming with me. 1504 01:12:49,279 --> 01:12:52,533 I am so proud of you. 1505 01:12:55,036 --> 01:12:56,496 And I'm honored 1506 01:12:57,497 --> 01:12:59,375 to have come on this journey with you. 1507 01:13:04,046 --> 01:13:05,463 Thanks for saying that. 1508 01:13:12,636 --> 01:13:13,679 I'm okay. 1509 01:13:14,055 --> 01:13:15,515 -Mm-hmm? -Mm-hmm. 1510 01:13:19,228 --> 01:13:20,686 We can go home now. 1511 01:14:22,038 --> 01:14:23,417 [low rumbling] 1512 01:15:02,163 --> 01:15:04,122 -[Markian] It's on, it's on! -Tell me when you're rolling. 1513 01:15:04,122 --> 01:15:05,666 -[Tara] You're rolling? -I'm rolling. I'm rolling. 1514 01:15:05,666 --> 01:15:06,751 Okay. Okay. 1515 01:15:06,751 --> 01:15:08,043 Okay, okay, Markian. 1516 01:15:08,043 --> 01:15:09,505 Just let me-- can I get a light on? 1517 01:15:09,505 --> 01:15:11,088 -Right here. -Let me put a light on. 1518 01:15:11,338 --> 01:15:13,341 Ah! What are you-- Tara? Fuckin'... 1519 01:15:13,341 --> 01:15:14,342 Shh! 1520 01:15:14,551 --> 01:15:15,760 You gotta come with me. 1521 01:15:16,511 --> 01:15:17,512 What? 1522 01:15:18,429 --> 01:15:19,346 You've gotta see this. 1523 01:15:19,346 --> 01:15:20,515 You've gotta see this right now. 1524 01:15:20,515 --> 01:15:21,600 -I'm not kidding. -Come on, Tara. 1525 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,684 I'm not kidding. Okay? 1526 01:15:22,684 --> 01:15:24,143 Just-- what is happening? 1527 01:15:24,143 --> 01:15:25,645 We're gonna open-- it's fine. Stay calm. 1528 01:15:25,645 --> 01:15:27,395 I need you to put your shoes on right now. 1529 01:15:27,395 --> 01:15:28,564 I need you to come outta this tent. 1530 01:15:28,564 --> 01:15:29,649 -All right. -Okay? Okay. 1531 01:15:29,649 --> 01:15:31,609 Just give me one second. Can you give me one second? 1532 01:15:31,609 --> 01:15:33,444 I-I know, I am. There. Can you see? 1533 01:15:33,444 --> 01:15:35,279 Okay. Just chill. Chill. 1534 01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:37,198 -Oh, my God. This is-- -I'm going. 1535 01:15:37,198 --> 01:15:38,658 -I'm not kidding. -I'm going. I'm going. 1536 01:15:39,326 --> 01:15:40,661 -All right. -Okay. 1537 01:15:41,078 --> 01:15:42,411 -You good? You got the camera? -Yeah. 1538 01:15:42,411 --> 01:15:44,121 -Is the camera still rolling? -Yeah. It's good. 1539 01:15:44,121 --> 01:15:45,707 -Keep the camera rolling... -It's good. It's going! 1540 01:15:45,707 --> 01:15:47,375 -...the whole time. -What is happening, Tara? 1541 01:15:47,375 --> 01:15:48,542 [Tara] Come with me! Come with me. 1542 01:15:48,542 --> 01:15:49,585 Okay? Come here. 1543 01:15:49,585 --> 01:15:50,712 [Markian] What the fuck? 1544 01:15:50,712 --> 01:15:52,337 -This is-- this is not-- -Where are we, Tara? 1545 01:15:52,337 --> 01:15:53,506 Can you tell me what's happening? 1546 01:15:53,506 --> 01:15:55,132 This is really happening. I need you to just 1547 01:15:55,132 --> 01:15:56,717 believe me for a second. Come with me, please. 1548 01:15:56,717 --> 01:15:57,801 [Tara] Okay. 1549 01:15:57,801 --> 01:15:59,095 Just... run. Okay. 1550 01:16:00,264 --> 01:16:01,347 [Markian panting] 1551 01:16:01,347 --> 01:16:03,100 Look, look. See? 1552 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,266 -See? -What? 1553 01:16:04,559 --> 01:16:07,104 -[laughs] Look! -What the fuck? 1554 01:16:07,104 --> 01:16:08,729 I know. We just, we just missed it. 1555 01:16:08,729 --> 01:16:10,230 -We just missed it. -No, no, no, no, no! 1556 01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:12,192 [stuttering] Tara, we were, we were right there. 1557 01:16:12,192 --> 01:16:13,819 -What the fuck is this? -Markian, we just missed it. 1558 01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:15,612 -No, there's no fucking way. -Come here. Come here. 1559 01:16:15,612 --> 01:16:17,613 They knocked it down. What the... fuck's this? 1560 01:16:19,114 --> 01:16:20,198 -[Tara] Hey, hey! -Hey. 1561 01:16:20,198 --> 01:16:21,367 Go get the other camera. 1562 01:16:22,327 --> 01:16:23,578 Oh, fuck... 1563 01:16:23,578 --> 01:16:24,744 -Markian, go! -Oh. 1564 01:16:25,413 --> 01:16:26,707 [Markian] Fuck. What? 1565 01:16:27,122 --> 01:16:29,126 What the fuck? You're shitting me. 1566 01:16:29,501 --> 01:16:30,501 Fuck! 1567 01:16:30,751 --> 01:16:31,752 [film clicks] 1568 01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:33,505 [camera beeps] 1569 01:16:33,505 --> 01:16:34,506 Okay. 1570 01:16:35,422 --> 01:16:37,384 [Markian panting] 1571 01:16:47,895 --> 01:16:49,604 They're here, Markian. 1572 01:16:51,605 --> 01:16:52,774 I've talked to them. 1573 01:16:54,192 --> 01:16:55,652 -What? -Mm-hmm. 1574 01:16:57,319 --> 01:16:58,322 Watch. 1575 01:17:03,827 --> 01:17:04,828 [Tara exhales] 1576 01:17:09,373 --> 01:17:10,375 Matty. 1577 01:17:11,585 --> 01:17:13,711 Matty, it's me again. It's Tara. 1578 01:17:15,296 --> 01:17:16,631 I'm back. Um... 1579 01:17:17,716 --> 01:17:19,675 I've-I've brought a friend with me this time. 1580 01:17:19,675 --> 01:17:21,177 I hope that's okay. 1581 01:17:23,679 --> 01:17:25,221 Okay. Matty, look, I'm... 1582 01:17:25,890 --> 01:17:28,559 I'm gonna just keep asking you questions. 1583 01:17:28,893 --> 01:17:29,894 Okay? 1584 01:17:30,394 --> 01:17:31,520 So... 1585 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:32,520 left for yes. 1586 01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:34,649 Right for no. Okay? 1587 01:17:35,317 --> 01:17:36,525 Do you understand? 1588 01:17:39,194 --> 01:17:40,279 [Markian gasps] 1589 01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:41,448 See, see? 1590 01:17:41,864 --> 01:17:43,615 Good. Good. Good job, Matty. 1591 01:17:43,615 --> 01:17:45,493 Thank you. That is so good. 1592 01:17:45,701 --> 01:17:46,828 Okay. Okay. 1593 01:17:46,828 --> 01:17:48,871 And, and just, just to confirm, I, I am 1594 01:17:49,288 --> 01:17:51,667 speaking with you, Matthew Nichols? 1595 01:17:53,917 --> 01:17:56,212 Good! Great, Matty. Matty, and... 1596 01:17:56,712 --> 01:17:58,215 And you, and you do know that it's, 1597 01:17:58,506 --> 01:17:59,507 that it's me? 1598 01:18:00,341 --> 01:18:01,842 That it's, it's your sister... 1599 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:03,845 Tara Nichols? 1600 01:18:06,639 --> 01:18:08,349 Perfect. Okay. 1601 01:18:08,765 --> 01:18:10,935 Okay, good, Matty. Good. And, um... 1602 01:18:11,644 --> 01:18:14,439 Okay, and... and is, is Jordan there with you? 1603 01:18:16,858 --> 01:18:18,402 [gasps] Okay. 1604 01:18:18,609 --> 01:18:20,277 Okay, good. Good, good. 1605 01:18:20,277 --> 01:18:21,529 Now, Matty, can you tell me, 1606 01:18:21,529 --> 01:18:23,698 can you tell me, are you both safe? 1607 01:18:30,954 --> 01:18:31,957 Matty? 1608 01:18:33,625 --> 01:18:35,377 Come on, buddy. Come on, don't... 1609 01:18:36,252 --> 01:18:38,380 Don't, don't leave on me again Matty, come on. 1610 01:18:41,257 --> 01:18:42,926 Ma-- Ma-Matty? 1611 01:18:49,265 --> 01:18:50,350 Okay. 1612 01:18:50,350 --> 01:18:51,935 Okay, that's, that's okay, um... 1613 01:18:52,935 --> 01:18:54,895 Uh, Matty, uh-- are you... 1614 01:18:55,730 --> 01:18:59,567 Are, are you able to present yourself to me? 1615 01:19:02,570 --> 01:19:05,573 Matty? Matty, please don't leave me here, buddy, please. 1616 01:19:05,989 --> 01:19:07,324 Matty, are you-- 1617 01:19:07,908 --> 01:19:09,993 are you able to make a sound for me? 1618 01:19:13,413 --> 01:19:14,457 [crow squawks] 1619 01:19:14,457 --> 01:19:16,585 [chittering sound] 1620 01:19:17,918 --> 01:19:19,295 [loud thud] 1621 01:19:19,962 --> 01:19:21,046 [low growl] 1622 01:19:21,546 --> 01:19:23,425 [rumbling sound] 1623 01:19:30,430 --> 01:19:31,850 Oh, no, no. Tara, this is fucked up. 1624 01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:32,975 I'm getting the fuck outta here! 1625 01:19:32,975 --> 01:19:34,310 Shh! Stop it. Stop! 1626 01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:35,310 [rumbling stops] 1627 01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:38,855 Matty? 1628 01:19:40,024 --> 01:19:41,902 Matty, are you still there? 1629 01:19:43,487 --> 01:19:44,944 Come on, Matty. 1630 01:19:46,948 --> 01:19:48,574 [both gasp] 1631 01:19:49,701 --> 01:19:50,993 [footsteps] 1632 01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:52,453 Matty? 1633 01:19:53,537 --> 01:19:54,581 Matty, it's-- 1634 01:19:55,538 --> 01:19:56,664 It's okay. 1635 01:19:57,500 --> 01:19:59,042 It's okay, it's me. I'm-- 1636 01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:01,837 I'm-I'm right here with you, buddy. 1637 01:20:02,337 --> 01:20:03,422 [footsteps] 1638 01:20:03,756 --> 01:20:04,966 [door creaks opens] 1639 01:20:05,548 --> 01:20:07,676 [Tara gasps] 1640 01:20:08,636 --> 01:20:10,470 -[Markian] Oh... -Thank God. 1641 01:20:11,012 --> 01:20:12,099 Matty? 1642 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,807 It's okay. 1643 01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:16,393 It's okay. It's me. 1644 01:20:16,769 --> 01:20:18,561 [sobbing] It's me, it's Tara. 1645 01:20:21,399 --> 01:20:22,484 [Matthew] Tara? 1646 01:20:25,485 --> 01:20:26,612 It's him. 1647 01:20:28,823 --> 01:20:29,864 He's here. 1648 01:20:31,659 --> 01:20:32,868 -[music sting] -[Markian screams] 1649 01:20:33,368 --> 01:20:34,996 Oh, fuck! [panting] 1650 01:20:34,996 --> 01:20:37,373 -[camera clatters] -No... oh, my God. 1651 01:20:41,002 --> 01:20:42,502 [wind blowing] 1652 01:20:42,712 --> 01:20:44,421 [Markian] Fuck. Where am I going? 1653 01:20:44,421 --> 01:20:46,757 [Tara screams] 1654 01:20:47,007 --> 01:20:49,051 [Markian breathing heavily] 1655 01:20:49,511 --> 01:20:50,761 [Tara] No, no, no! 1656 01:20:51,470 --> 01:20:53,140 -[Tara screaming] -Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. 1657 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:54,140 Oh, fuck. 1658 01:20:54,681 --> 01:20:56,057 [breathing heavily] 1659 01:20:56,057 --> 01:20:57,768 [Tara crying] 1660 01:20:58,603 --> 01:21:00,855 [vocalizing] Fuck! 1661 01:21:00,855 --> 01:21:03,524 What the fuck? [exhales] 1662 01:21:04,524 --> 01:21:05,984 [panting] Breathe. 1663 01:21:06,694 --> 01:21:08,654 [eerie music builds] 1664 01:21:09,445 --> 01:21:10,823 Oh... that's not fucking real. 1665 01:21:11,698 --> 01:21:13,409 Let's go. Man the fuck up! 1666 01:21:13,409 --> 01:21:14,451 Man the fuck up. 1667 01:21:14,451 --> 01:21:15,703 Markian, you can't fucking leave her. 1668 01:21:17,538 --> 01:21:18,622 Ah, fuck! 1669 01:21:18,622 --> 01:21:20,125 Hey! Tara! 1670 01:21:22,501 --> 01:21:23,586 Tara! 1671 01:21:25,421 --> 01:21:26,421 Tara? 1672 01:21:26,796 --> 01:21:29,091 -Tara? Tar-- Tara? -[Tara incoherent yelling] 1673 01:21:29,091 --> 01:21:30,551 Hey, Tara! Hey! 1674 01:21:30,844 --> 01:21:33,429 [Tara incoherent yelling] 1675 01:21:33,429 --> 01:21:34,930 -It's me, it's me, it's me! -Stop! Please, stop. 1676 01:21:34,930 --> 01:21:36,056 -Ahh! [panting] -Hey! 1677 01:21:36,056 --> 01:21:37,893 [Markian] What the fuck? What the fuck is happening? 1678 01:21:37,893 --> 01:21:39,435 -What's happening? -I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1679 01:21:39,435 --> 01:21:40,810 I said I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Markian. 1680 01:21:40,810 --> 01:21:42,145 -What? -It's not-- it's not-- 1681 01:21:42,145 --> 01:21:43,939 It's not him. It's not him. 1682 01:21:43,939 --> 01:21:45,984 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Markian. 1683 01:21:45,984 --> 01:21:47,859 [both scream] 1684 01:21:48,444 --> 01:21:49,944 What the fuck? Tara! 1685 01:21:49,944 --> 01:21:51,573 [demonic scream] 1686 01:21:51,573 --> 01:21:52,614 Tara! 1687 01:21:54,074 --> 01:21:55,533 [Markian panting] 1688 01:21:55,533 --> 01:21:57,912 [stuttering] Fuck. I don't wanna fucking die. 1689 01:21:57,912 --> 01:21:59,163 [panting] 1690 01:21:59,163 --> 01:22:01,039 -[snapping sound] -[Markian screams] 1691 01:22:03,918 --> 01:22:06,127 [Markian yells in pain] 1692 01:22:06,796 --> 01:22:08,006 Ahh! 1693 01:22:11,051 --> 01:22:12,051 Fuck. 1694 01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:15,220 [groaning] 1695 01:22:21,769 --> 01:22:23,895 Okay. Oh, God. Okay. 1696 01:22:23,895 --> 01:22:25,189 Okay. Okay. 1697 01:22:26,814 --> 01:22:28,568 [groans in pain] 1698 01:22:49,881 --> 01:22:50,966 [chittering sound] 1699 01:22:50,966 --> 01:22:52,676 Who's that? Hey. 1700 01:22:53,259 --> 01:22:54,636 Hey! Who's there? 1701 01:22:55,011 --> 01:22:56,136 [music intensifies] 1702 01:22:56,136 --> 01:22:57,639 [panting] 1703 01:22:58,139 --> 01:22:59,515 Fuck you. 1704 01:22:59,515 --> 01:23:01,140 -[quiet growling] -Hey, fuck-- fuck you! 1705 01:23:03,185 --> 01:23:04,561 Oh, my God. 1706 01:23:08,273 --> 01:23:10,525 [Markian groans] 1707 01:23:15,739 --> 01:23:17,242 [bird caws] 1708 01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:21,912 [music intensifies] 1709 01:23:27,585 --> 01:23:28,670 Tara? 1710 01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:41,725 [branches rustle] 1711 01:23:44,185 --> 01:23:45,685 [scream] 1712 01:23:46,145 --> 01:23:47,980 [Markian groans] 1713 01:23:47,980 --> 01:23:49,649 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! 1714 01:23:49,649 --> 01:23:51,025 No, no! No, no! 1715 01:23:51,234 --> 01:23:53,109 [Markian screams] 1716 01:23:56,029 --> 01:23:58,033 [distant screams] 1717 01:24:00,993 --> 01:24:03,203 [distant screams] 1718 01:24:06,291 --> 01:24:08,835 [whispered vocalizing] 1719 01:24:13,172 --> 01:24:15,215 [chittering sound] 1720 01:24:36,362 --> 01:24:38,238 [wind howls] 1721 01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:41,743 [camera beeps] 1722 01:24:46,371 --> 01:24:48,207 [Tara] And so, whatever I find, I'm-- 1723 01:24:48,207 --> 01:24:49,750 I'm okay with, because-- 1724 01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:52,877 If it's nothing... great, that's fine. 1725 01:24:52,877 --> 01:24:55,090 That's basically what I have right now. 1726 01:24:56,716 --> 01:24:58,176 And if it is something, then... 1727 01:24:59,259 --> 01:25:00,261 Yeah, I... 1728 01:25:01,011 --> 01:25:02,637 I'll have gotten to know my brother better. 1729 01:25:08,685 --> 01:25:10,063 [vocalizing] 1730 01:25:11,104 --> 01:25:13,023 ♪ 1731 01:25:56,359 --> 01:25:58,819 [Ryan] Uh, hi there. I heard, uh, uh, Markian Tarasiuk 1732 01:25:58,819 --> 01:25:59,904 was checked in here? 1733 01:25:59,904 --> 01:26:01,823 -[Nurse] Tarasiuk? Room 113. -Thank you. 1734 01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:04,824 113. 113... 1735 01:26:04,824 --> 01:26:05,993 113. 1736 01:26:06,243 --> 01:26:07,244 Oh, here. 1737 01:26:07,703 --> 01:26:08,704 Here we go. 1738 01:26:09,704 --> 01:26:11,416 Holy... shit. 1739 01:26:14,252 --> 01:26:15,252 Markian? 1740 01:26:16,003 --> 01:26:17,003 Yo, dude. 1741 01:26:18,087 --> 01:26:19,841 Holy fuck. Hey, dude. Are you okay? 1742 01:26:21,091 --> 01:26:22,216 Markian? 1743 01:26:22,216 --> 01:26:24,177 -[machine beeps] -Markian? 1744 01:26:24,177 --> 01:26:26,387 [screams] 1745 01:26:27,015 --> 01:26:29,350 -[eerie vocalizing] -[Markian screaming] 1746 01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:30,350 [Ryan] Nurse! 1747 01:26:35,480 --> 01:26:38,734 ♪