1 00:00:07,659 --> 00:00:09,617 - In 3, 2... 2 00:00:09,704 --> 00:00:12,577 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:12,664 --> 00:00:14,709 - What's the name of this group on this stage tonight? 4 00:00:14,796 --> 00:00:16,146 all: Black Sheep! 5 00:00:16,233 --> 00:00:18,844 - Say what? all: Black Sheep! 6 00:00:18,931 --> 00:00:22,108 - Hip-hop definitely gives us the opportunity to blow up. 7 00:00:22,195 --> 00:00:23,675 - Our special guest, Black Sheep-- 8 00:00:23,762 --> 00:00:26,504 Mista Lawnge and Dres. - [rapping indistinctly] 9 00:00:26,591 --> 00:00:28,767 - Like it or not, rap is here to stay. 10 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:32,075 It has become part of mainstream commerce. 11 00:00:32,162 --> 00:00:33,859 - And "The Choice Is Yours"-- 12 00:00:33,946 --> 00:00:35,687 the one that knocked the whole country on their hip. 13 00:00:35,774 --> 00:00:37,384 - That was a real record. - You guys are so young. 14 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:39,778 - Teens making these mega hits. 15 00:00:41,693 --> 00:00:43,477 - It all stems down to what you want 16 00:00:43,564 --> 00:00:44,696 to do with your life, what you want to do with yourself. 17 00:00:44,783 --> 00:00:45,653 - Say hello. - Hi. 18 00:00:45,740 --> 00:00:47,742 - Hi. 19 00:00:47,829 --> 00:00:51,485 - Hip-hop also gives us the opportunity to implode. 20 00:00:51,572 --> 00:00:54,271 - If you're doing it for the money, stop. 21 00:00:54,358 --> 00:00:56,534 - We had vision. We had concept. 22 00:00:56,621 --> 00:00:58,405 - They didn't try to understand. 23 00:00:58,492 --> 00:00:59,406 - People are people, and people make mistakes. 24 00:00:59,493 --> 00:01:01,365 - If you're doing it for the love, 25 00:01:01,452 --> 00:01:02,757 then you're on the right path. 26 00:01:02,844 --> 00:01:05,804 - When I make my music, I want people to feel what I feel 27 00:01:05,891 --> 00:01:07,327 because I make it straight from the heart. 28 00:01:07,414 --> 00:01:08,894 - He's gone, but his music is still here. 29 00:01:08,981 --> 00:01:10,069 - We still talking about him because his beats 30 00:01:10,156 --> 00:01:11,462 got us still talking. 31 00:01:11,549 --> 00:01:12,985 - What J Dilla is affording me is 32 00:01:13,072 --> 00:01:16,119 for the world to see exactly what I have to say today. 33 00:01:16,206 --> 00:01:17,946 And that's all I need. 34 00:01:18,033 --> 00:01:20,166 - You've been given an idea. You've been given talent. 35 00:01:20,253 --> 00:01:21,689 - People would be very unkind to you 36 00:01:21,776 --> 00:01:23,169 if you take a Dilla track 37 00:01:23,256 --> 00:01:24,997 and you don't make the most out of it. 38 00:01:25,084 --> 00:01:26,216 - Just because you have something, 39 00:01:26,303 --> 00:01:27,217 it might not just be yours. 40 00:01:27,304 --> 00:01:28,740 - It's been 20-plus years. 41 00:01:28,827 --> 00:01:30,089 - Dilla is somebody you can't afford to mess up. 42 00:01:30,176 --> 00:01:31,917 - Keep J Dilla's memory alive. 43 00:01:32,004 --> 00:01:35,181 - Things become way more complicated after you gone. 44 00:01:42,406 --> 00:01:45,931 [train horn blowing] 45 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,066 [upbeat music plays] 46 00:01:51,154 --> 00:01:53,765 - The Mario series is going to turn 40 next year. 47 00:01:53,852 --> 00:01:55,506 - Wow. 48 00:01:55,593 --> 00:01:58,117 - Pac-Man turned 40 this year, and Donkey Kong came 49 00:01:58,204 --> 00:02:00,685 out one year after Pac-Man. 50 00:02:00,772 --> 00:02:02,208 - And that was Mario's first game, right? 51 00:02:02,295 --> 00:02:03,688 [doorbell rings] 52 00:02:03,775 --> 00:02:06,299 - Yeah, Donkey Kong was Mario's first game. 53 00:02:06,386 --> 00:02:08,388 - Thank you. - Have a good one. 54 00:02:08,475 --> 00:02:09,302 - You too. 55 00:02:16,744 --> 00:02:21,096 So this is just a visual of the guy completing the levels? 56 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:23,490 - Yeah, this is a world map. 57 00:02:23,577 --> 00:02:26,798 The more levels you complete, the longer you can go on. 58 00:02:26,885 --> 00:02:30,715 - Who knew that Mario would have such an amazing life? 59 00:02:30,802 --> 00:02:33,979 Mario has been doing his thing for a lot of years now. 60 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:36,764 In life, if you're a chef 61 00:02:36,851 --> 00:02:39,202 for 25 years, you're a master. 62 00:02:39,289 --> 00:02:40,594 You're a master chef. 63 00:02:40,681 --> 00:02:44,468 Who invented Donkey Kong? - Shigeru Miyamoto. 64 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:47,732 - If you played in a rock band for 25 years, 65 00:02:47,819 --> 00:02:49,168 you're a Rolling Stone. 66 00:02:49,255 --> 00:02:51,126 Like, you're revered. 67 00:02:51,214 --> 00:02:55,479 But in hip-hop, if you rhyme for 25 years, you're just old. 68 00:02:55,566 --> 00:02:57,045 [chuckles] 69 00:02:57,132 --> 00:02:59,091 - He originally wanted to use characters from Popeye, 70 00:02:59,178 --> 00:03:00,266 but that didn't work out. 71 00:03:00,353 --> 00:03:02,137 - Oh, licensing, I'm sure. 72 00:03:02,225 --> 00:03:05,140 I feel literally like one of the luckiest people 73 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:09,710 in the world to be an artist for 25 years. 74 00:03:09,797 --> 00:03:13,366 And after, you know, being a dad, 75 00:03:13,453 --> 00:03:15,325 after taking care of the household, 76 00:03:15,412 --> 00:03:17,675 after taking care of the wife, 77 00:03:17,762 --> 00:03:22,636 after everything I do to be a person, 78 00:03:22,723 --> 00:03:24,290 you know, 9:00, 10:00 at night, 79 00:03:24,377 --> 00:03:26,118 I'm going to the Bronx from Queens 80 00:03:26,205 --> 00:03:27,946 to start my workday. 81 00:03:28,033 --> 00:03:30,209 "You are blocking this driveway 82 00:03:30,296 --> 00:03:31,819 "and making it incredibly difficult 83 00:03:31,906 --> 00:03:34,387 "to avoid hitting your rear bumper on my way out. 84 00:03:34,474 --> 00:03:36,041 "Please be mindful that I routinely 85 00:03:36,128 --> 00:03:39,044 "have to maneuver around your vehicle to avoid impact. 86 00:03:39,131 --> 00:03:40,611 "You are well over the line. 87 00:03:40,698 --> 00:03:45,268 I would appreciate your consideration." 88 00:03:45,355 --> 00:03:47,313 'Cause they don't have enough fucking room 89 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,446 to get out of their driveway. 90 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:52,840 Oh, God, like, New York is just New York. 91 00:03:55,016 --> 00:03:58,542 Over my career, I've done a lot of evolving. 92 00:03:58,629 --> 00:04:01,153 I think music has done a lot of evolving as well, 93 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,374 for better and for worse. 94 00:04:04,461 --> 00:04:09,292 And I'm not a fan of the ageism in hip-hop. 95 00:04:09,379 --> 00:04:10,989 Hip-hop is one of the art forms where 96 00:04:11,076 --> 00:04:12,904 the young eats the elders. 97 00:04:12,991 --> 00:04:14,819 You know, you'll often hear, you know, the younger cats-- 98 00:04:14,906 --> 00:04:16,211 Yeah, I don't mess with them older dudes 99 00:04:16,299 --> 00:04:18,039 and this, that, and the other. 100 00:04:18,126 --> 00:04:21,260 And, you know, it's kind of hard to hear sometimes. 101 00:04:21,347 --> 00:04:23,697 And, you know, sometimes 102 00:04:23,784 --> 00:04:25,699 reality will break my heart a little bit. 103 00:04:25,786 --> 00:04:27,832 But it's a good reason to get up every day. 104 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:30,704 I love making music. 105 00:04:30,791 --> 00:04:32,358 The hustle is definitely a grind for me. 106 00:04:32,445 --> 00:04:34,012 You know, like I'll have a session 107 00:04:34,099 --> 00:04:35,927 that starts at 9:00, 108 00:04:36,014 --> 00:04:38,756 and I might be in there till 2:00, 3:00 in the morning 109 00:04:38,843 --> 00:04:43,413 and be on my toes at 7:00, 7:15 to cook for my son 110 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:45,850 and get him out the house-- 111 00:04:45,937 --> 00:04:47,939 just spend as much time as I can during the years 112 00:04:48,026 --> 00:04:50,376 that my son does need me. 113 00:04:53,118 --> 00:04:57,035 Life changes when you have a quick rise and a quick fall 114 00:04:57,122 --> 00:04:58,602 in the music industry. 115 00:04:58,689 --> 00:04:59,907 [elevator bell dings] 116 00:04:59,994 --> 00:05:01,953 That I've had success early-- 117 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,261 I always feel like I'm just a record away 118 00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:09,221 from breaking a ceiling. 119 00:05:09,308 --> 00:05:10,440 [cheering] - "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing." 120 00:05:10,527 --> 00:05:12,485 Here's Dres and Lawnge-- Black Sheep. 121 00:05:12,572 --> 00:05:14,400 Ow. Take it away. - Make some noise! 122 00:05:14,487 --> 00:05:16,097 Make some noise! 123 00:05:16,184 --> 00:05:17,708 My name is Dres. 124 00:05:17,795 --> 00:05:19,536 - And I am Mista Lawnge, the 9.5er. 125 00:05:19,623 --> 00:05:21,189 - Together we make up this group called what? 126 00:05:21,276 --> 00:05:22,582 - Black Sheep. 127 00:05:22,669 --> 00:05:23,801 - Real hip-hop-- it inspired us. 128 00:05:23,888 --> 00:05:25,759 - Talking about Black Sheep. - Black sheep. 129 00:05:25,846 --> 00:05:27,979 - Black Sheep in the house. - Black Sheep live. 130 00:05:28,066 --> 00:05:29,720 - If you're tuned in to hip-hop history, 131 00:05:29,807 --> 00:05:32,244 you have to know who Black Sheep are. 132 00:05:32,331 --> 00:05:34,289 - Did you just ask me who was Black Sheep? 133 00:05:34,377 --> 00:05:35,465 - ♪ Who's the Black Sheep? ♪ 134 00:05:35,552 --> 00:05:37,075 ♪ What's the Black Sheep? ♪ 135 00:05:37,162 --> 00:05:39,251 ♪ Know not who I am or when I'm coming so you sleep ♪ 136 00:05:39,338 --> 00:05:42,472 - Black Sheep was a duo that came out in '91 comprised 137 00:05:42,559 --> 00:05:43,951 of Dres and Mista Lawnge. 138 00:05:44,038 --> 00:05:47,433 - Me and Lawnge, we met in '83 in North Carolina. 139 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,000 We were both from New York, 140 00:05:49,087 --> 00:05:50,828 but our parents relocated for various reasons. 141 00:05:50,915 --> 00:05:52,525 - Black Sheep--it was new. 142 00:05:52,612 --> 00:05:54,919 It was fresh--definitely the top of the hip-hop 143 00:05:55,006 --> 00:05:56,921 world for a period of time. 144 00:05:57,008 --> 00:06:00,141 - They fit really well within a dominant level 145 00:06:00,228 --> 00:06:02,709 of hip-hop sound. 146 00:06:02,796 --> 00:06:04,232 - Black Sheep-- 147 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:05,973 I'd be sitting next to the radio just like this. 148 00:06:06,060 --> 00:06:07,801 - ♪ Back, middle, to the front, don't front ♪ 149 00:06:07,888 --> 00:06:09,455 - Damn, Mista Lawnge getting it in-- 150 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:10,978 he was nasty with the beats. 151 00:06:11,065 --> 00:06:12,240 I'm like, ooh. 152 00:06:12,327 --> 00:06:14,547 - And Dres-- it's like audible silk. 153 00:06:14,634 --> 00:06:15,548 - ♪ Styling is creative ♪ 154 00:06:15,635 --> 00:06:17,507 ♪ Black sheep of the Native ♪ 155 00:06:17,594 --> 00:06:18,638 ♪ You can't be violated or even "decepticated" ♪ 156 00:06:18,725 --> 00:06:20,379 ♪ I got brothers in the jungle ♪ 157 00:06:20,466 --> 00:06:22,425 - They were the perfect continuation 158 00:06:22,512 --> 00:06:24,252 of what Native Tongues had already been doing. 159 00:06:24,339 --> 00:06:26,341 - ♪ Native Tongue got rhymes galore ♪ 160 00:06:26,429 --> 00:06:29,083 - The Native Tongues were, like, a conscious hip-hop 161 00:06:29,170 --> 00:06:31,912 collective of various groups. 162 00:06:31,999 --> 00:06:33,348 - The Native Tongues-- 163 00:06:33,436 --> 00:06:35,655 that's a dope fucking name for a crew. 164 00:06:35,742 --> 00:06:37,352 And their whole vibe was very different, 165 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,137 and their music was banging. 166 00:06:39,224 --> 00:06:40,878 The beats were banging. 167 00:06:40,965 --> 00:06:43,054 - What's your first question? - My first question-- 168 00:06:43,141 --> 00:06:45,099 - Listen, I did an entire documentary about it, 169 00:06:45,186 --> 00:06:47,058 so I don't want to repeat, but game-changing 170 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:48,625 production from all of them. 171 00:06:48,712 --> 00:06:50,017 - ♪ Break down ♪ - ♪ Round and round ♪ 172 00:06:50,104 --> 00:06:53,760 - Jungle Brothers, De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest-- 173 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:58,069 - Then you have Black Sheep, Monie Love, Latifah, Chi Ali. 174 00:06:58,156 --> 00:07:01,638 - It was very New York, pushing positivity. 175 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:04,205 - Just peace, Blackness, emceeing-- 176 00:07:04,292 --> 00:07:05,859 just good-spirited music. 177 00:07:05,946 --> 00:07:08,079 - It was considered smart hip-hop. 178 00:07:08,166 --> 00:07:09,689 - ♪ Brothers in the jungle ♪ 179 00:07:09,776 --> 00:07:11,909 - Black Sheep came in and lived up to the fact 180 00:07:11,996 --> 00:07:15,956 that they had something dope and unique to say. 181 00:07:16,043 --> 00:07:18,176 - ♪ Mista Lawnge, Dres, Black Sheep slam now ♪ 182 00:07:18,263 --> 00:07:19,917 - And presented it in a really creative way. 183 00:07:20,004 --> 00:07:21,832 - ♪ Then, of course, the choice is yours ♪ 184 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:23,268 - "The Choice Is Yours" absolutely 185 00:07:23,355 --> 00:07:26,445 was, like, a mainstream hit. 186 00:07:26,532 --> 00:07:28,273 - "You can get with this, or you can"-- 187 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,970 Yeah, that was awesome. I was into that. 188 00:07:30,057 --> 00:07:32,320 - "The Choice Is Yours"-- gonna knock the whole country 189 00:07:32,407 --> 00:07:33,583 on their hip. 190 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:34,975 - Like, use it as a thing to say. 191 00:07:35,062 --> 00:07:36,716 Like, it just became part of vernacular. 192 00:07:36,803 --> 00:07:38,109 - "The Choice"--it's lightning in a fucking bottle 193 00:07:38,196 --> 00:07:41,112 having such a ridiculously popular song. 194 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:42,722 - ♪ Where's the black sheep? ♪ 195 00:07:42,809 --> 00:07:44,245 ♪ Here's the black sheep ♪ - Forget it. 196 00:07:44,332 --> 00:07:45,856 I mean, if you want the party to start jumping, 197 00:07:45,943 --> 00:07:46,900 you just throw that on. 198 00:07:46,987 --> 00:07:48,511 That's it. 199 00:07:48,598 --> 00:07:50,295 - Especially in the part where it's like, 200 00:07:50,382 --> 00:07:51,688 "Engine, engine"-- 201 00:07:51,775 --> 00:07:53,037 - "Number nine." 202 00:07:53,124 --> 00:07:55,387 - ♪ On the New York transit line ♪ 203 00:07:55,474 --> 00:07:56,780 - Everybody crouching down. 204 00:07:56,867 --> 00:07:57,824 - ♪ If my train goes off the track ♪ 205 00:07:57,911 --> 00:07:59,609 ♪ Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up ♪ 206 00:07:59,696 --> 00:08:02,786 - Monster single-- all over the radio. 207 00:08:02,873 --> 00:08:05,223 - And we saw them as the first hip-hop duo 208 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:06,920 to do late-night TV. 209 00:08:07,007 --> 00:08:09,923 - It was larger than life, and it lasted forever. 210 00:08:10,010 --> 00:08:11,534 - ♪ Open the door ♪ 211 00:08:11,621 --> 00:08:13,057 ♪ You best believe we're sliding through it ♪ 212 00:08:13,144 --> 00:08:14,580 - He's still doing shows because of that record. 213 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:16,016 Like, I don't really do shows like that. 214 00:08:16,103 --> 00:08:18,236 - "The Choice Is Yours," "Similak Child," 215 00:08:18,323 --> 00:08:19,629 "Flavor of the Month"-- 216 00:08:19,716 --> 00:08:21,152 I mean, a lot of people would describe 217 00:08:21,239 --> 00:08:23,502 "A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing" as a classic album. 218 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:25,243 - ♪ Do-da-dipity ♪ 219 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:26,679 - Let me tell you, man. 220 00:08:26,766 --> 00:08:29,160 All you need is one hit, and that 221 00:08:29,247 --> 00:08:32,903 was the one that guarantees them income forever. 222 00:08:32,990 --> 00:08:35,035 - "You can get with this, or you can get with that," 223 00:08:35,122 --> 00:08:37,603 which was, like, I think, used in commercials. 224 00:08:37,690 --> 00:08:39,649 - Better yummy this and better tasting that. 225 00:08:39,736 --> 00:08:42,347 - ♪ You can get with this, or you can get with that ♪ 226 00:08:42,434 --> 00:08:43,522 - Upside--using your song in a commercial. 227 00:08:43,609 --> 00:08:45,089 Boom, chickity-check. 228 00:08:45,176 --> 00:08:46,699 Downside--oh, my God. 229 00:08:46,786 --> 00:08:49,746 Have you heard the hamster song? 230 00:08:49,833 --> 00:08:51,574 - ♪ You can get with this, or you can get with that ♪ 231 00:08:51,661 --> 00:08:53,401 - I remember being on the radio 232 00:08:53,488 --> 00:08:55,534 and being like, fuck that, no. 233 00:08:55,621 --> 00:08:57,536 You will not refer to "The Choice Is Yours" 234 00:08:57,623 --> 00:08:59,364 as the goddamn hamster song. 235 00:08:59,451 --> 00:09:01,105 But it was a thing. 236 00:09:01,192 --> 00:09:04,804 - What the hell is that? [laughs] 237 00:09:04,891 --> 00:09:07,067 - And then that song getting placed in the Spidey-Verse. 238 00:09:07,154 --> 00:09:10,549 ♪ ♪ 239 00:09:10,636 --> 00:09:12,072 - Got a seven-year-old who know that record. 240 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:14,031 You know what I'm saying? 241 00:09:14,118 --> 00:09:16,163 Like, that song is like the gift that keeps on giving. 242 00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:18,949 - Also have the youth, the drill artists, 243 00:09:19,036 --> 00:09:20,472 Lola Brooke sampling "The Choice is Yours." 244 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,082 - ♪ Because you ain't getting ♪ - ♪ This or that ♪ 245 00:09:22,169 --> 00:09:23,170 - [chuckles] 246 00:09:23,257 --> 00:09:24,911 ♪ Man, sis, just relax ♪ 247 00:09:24,998 --> 00:09:26,478 - Incredible track. 248 00:09:26,565 --> 00:09:30,221 You know, what would hip-hop be without it? 249 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:34,181 - ♪ The more things change, the more they stay the same ♪ 250 00:09:34,268 --> 00:09:37,097 - All right, I'm going to keep that one and double it. 251 00:09:37,184 --> 00:09:38,969 There's a lot of cats that got a lot 252 00:09:39,056 --> 00:09:41,319 of things going on in their career 253 00:09:41,406 --> 00:09:44,104 and legacy and whatnot. 254 00:09:44,191 --> 00:09:48,021 But not a lot of people have a "Choice Is Yours." 255 00:09:48,108 --> 00:09:50,633 And, you know, like, I don't really 256 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,158 harp on what me and Lawnge did... 257 00:09:54,245 --> 00:09:56,203 Okay, okay. 258 00:09:56,290 --> 00:09:58,423 - As much as I harp on what I still have to do. 259 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:01,774 And that's why this Dilla project is so important. 260 00:10:01,861 --> 00:10:03,863 So, for me, in my career, 261 00:10:03,950 --> 00:10:06,126 it's just been about staying prepared. 262 00:10:06,213 --> 00:10:09,129 It's about doing the work. It's about spreading love. 263 00:10:09,216 --> 00:10:12,350 It's about, you know, not hoarding because we do shit 264 00:10:12,437 --> 00:10:14,526 despite what's against us. 265 00:10:14,613 --> 00:10:17,050 You know, like, hip-hop exists despite. 266 00:10:17,137 --> 00:10:19,052 It's almost like you were sliding through it. 267 00:10:19,139 --> 00:10:21,141 You know what I'm saying? [hums] All right. 268 00:10:21,228 --> 00:10:24,449 It definitely wasn't in the plans. 269 00:10:26,930 --> 00:10:29,236 - Would you call your music hard-core rap? 270 00:10:29,323 --> 00:10:30,455 - I wouldn't call it hard-core. 271 00:10:30,542 --> 00:10:31,848 - We painted a lot of pictures. 272 00:10:31,935 --> 00:10:33,240 We didn't draw the pictures ourselves. 273 00:10:33,327 --> 00:10:34,633 We just colored it in. 274 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,069 - Curse-- a lot of words 275 00:10:36,156 --> 00:10:37,680 that I don't think you're going to ever get played 276 00:10:37,767 --> 00:10:39,420 on television or the radio. 277 00:10:44,687 --> 00:10:47,211 - We don't really try to put it all into distinct categories. 278 00:10:47,298 --> 00:10:49,692 It's all music, and what you do with it is personal, 279 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:51,302 and it's something that you share with people. 280 00:10:51,389 --> 00:10:53,043 You know, people have told me, I'm not really into rap, 281 00:10:53,130 --> 00:10:54,479 but your group is all right with me. 282 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:57,743 And that's cool, you know, because that's broadening us. 283 00:10:57,830 --> 00:11:01,181 That's broadening them, and that's helping rap. 284 00:11:01,268 --> 00:11:04,881 - Beyond a beat, a rhyme, a dance, 285 00:11:04,968 --> 00:11:07,666 hip-hop music has become this life-altering, 286 00:11:07,753 --> 00:11:10,190 positive difference maker. 287 00:11:10,277 --> 00:11:13,454 Like, there's so many different working pieces now, 288 00:11:13,541 --> 00:11:16,936 that a livelihood can be found all around it. 289 00:11:17,023 --> 00:11:20,026 It's the result of imagination, 290 00:11:20,113 --> 00:11:22,812 and so much rests 291 00:11:22,899 --> 00:11:25,989 on the shoulders of our elders. 292 00:11:26,076 --> 00:11:28,295 - WIHD, Washington. 293 00:11:28,382 --> 00:11:29,993 - In Washington. 294 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,038 I want to say sunny, but you can see, there's-- 295 00:11:32,125 --> 00:11:35,955 - I'm here for this induction into The Hip-Hop Museum. 296 00:11:38,262 --> 00:11:40,568 You know, like, this is not a me and Mista Lawnge thing. 297 00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:42,875 This is-- 298 00:11:42,962 --> 00:11:44,268 I didn't hit him up or anything. 299 00:11:44,355 --> 00:11:45,791 I didn't-- 300 00:11:45,878 --> 00:11:49,360 Yeah, like, I'm very grateful to Lawnge. 301 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:51,144 You know what I'm saying? 302 00:11:51,231 --> 00:11:53,712 Like, you know, without Lawnge, we're not sitting here. 303 00:11:53,799 --> 00:11:55,279 I'm not sitting here without Lawnge. 304 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:58,195 You know what I'm saying? So I'm always-- 305 00:11:58,282 --> 00:11:59,674 I always keep that in perspective. 306 00:11:59,762 --> 00:12:01,372 You know what I'm saying? 307 00:12:01,459 --> 00:12:03,722 And I think it took me a while to get to the place 308 00:12:03,809 --> 00:12:07,595 where I felt like I didn't owe that situation 309 00:12:07,682 --> 00:12:10,033 my loyalty anymore. 310 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,251 We're going to go walk around, 311 00:12:11,338 --> 00:12:13,210 check it out, take a look around the curtain 312 00:12:13,297 --> 00:12:14,559 and see what it looked like in there real quick. 313 00:12:14,646 --> 00:12:16,169 Come on, before we go get a drink. 314 00:12:16,256 --> 00:12:19,564 - Black Sheep. [laughter, cheers] 315 00:12:19,651 --> 00:12:20,913 - Word up. Service is in the house. 316 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,741 Word up. Service in the house. 317 00:12:22,828 --> 00:12:25,309 [indistinct chatter] 318 00:12:25,396 --> 00:12:28,878 - Making hit records can definitely be 319 00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:31,315 a burden on that bad side of, 320 00:12:31,402 --> 00:12:33,273 yeah, this is what you're known for. 321 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,840 When people come up to me, and they do the-- 322 00:12:34,927 --> 00:12:36,799 "It's just me, myself, and I." 323 00:12:36,886 --> 00:12:38,235 ♪ It's just me, myself, and I ♪ 324 00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:40,324 And I just want to smack them in the face. 325 00:12:42,892 --> 00:12:44,458 - I mean, yeah, you have to keep playing 326 00:12:44,545 --> 00:12:46,330 that song no matter what. 327 00:12:46,417 --> 00:12:47,940 I have a saying-- 328 00:12:48,027 --> 00:12:49,768 You got to dance with the ho that you brought. 329 00:12:49,855 --> 00:12:52,379 This is what got you to the party. 330 00:12:52,466 --> 00:12:54,904 So when you're in the party now, you're in a party now. 331 00:12:54,991 --> 00:12:56,166 You got to dance with her now. 332 00:12:56,253 --> 00:12:58,124 She brought you, you have to dance with her. 333 00:12:58,211 --> 00:13:02,476 - [rapping indistinctly] 334 00:13:02,563 --> 00:13:05,218 - I don't think you're rubbing someone the wrong way when you 335 00:13:05,305 --> 00:13:07,177 say that Black Sheep was never able to get 336 00:13:07,264 --> 00:13:09,179 back to the heights of "The Choice Is Yours." 337 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:13,096 I mean, that was basically an impossible task. 338 00:13:13,183 --> 00:13:16,403 - When you are associated with something 339 00:13:16,490 --> 00:13:19,754 that is so legendary 340 00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:21,844 and then you come out of that, 341 00:13:21,931 --> 00:13:26,109 you're like, what am I supposed to do now? 342 00:13:26,196 --> 00:13:28,981 - We're getting up pretty far on the pop charts, you know, 343 00:13:29,068 --> 00:13:30,156 with that single. 344 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:31,984 - Now that we found something that's 345 00:13:32,071 --> 00:13:33,507 working for us, like "The Choice Is Yours," 346 00:13:33,594 --> 00:13:36,554 it will be easy to say, damn, let's go, you know, make 347 00:13:36,641 --> 00:13:38,773 "A Choice Is Ours," now or whatever, you know, 348 00:13:38,861 --> 00:13:40,906 and follow it up like everybody else would do. 349 00:13:40,993 --> 00:13:42,821 But I think we'd rather reach somewhere else. 350 00:13:42,908 --> 00:13:44,954 And even if, you know, we fall flat on our face, 351 00:13:45,041 --> 00:13:47,565 at least we was trying to be ourselves. 352 00:13:47,652 --> 00:13:50,220 [indistinct chatter] 353 00:13:50,307 --> 00:13:52,265 - They really had, like, a four-single run 354 00:13:52,352 --> 00:13:56,008 off their first album, which is great, 355 00:13:56,095 --> 00:14:00,883 and then took a few years off. 356 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,406 I don't know how many people you're 357 00:14:02,493 --> 00:14:04,538 going to find besides me that will be 358 00:14:04,625 --> 00:14:06,540 able to tell you the name of their first single 359 00:14:06,627 --> 00:14:08,716 off the next album. 360 00:14:08,803 --> 00:14:11,589 You would think that an artist 361 00:14:11,676 --> 00:14:14,113 who had a song that big-- 362 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,289 people would at least remember what 363 00:14:16,376 --> 00:14:18,509 they came with after that. 364 00:14:18,596 --> 00:14:21,991 I don't think anyone does. 365 00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:24,645 The next song-- it was "Without A Doubt." 366 00:14:24,732 --> 00:14:26,256 all: ♪ Yeah, without a doubt ♪ 367 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:29,999 - It was a cool song, but it just-- 368 00:14:30,086 --> 00:14:32,958 the wind was out of the sail. 369 00:14:33,045 --> 00:14:35,395 You have one-hit wonders. 370 00:14:35,482 --> 00:14:39,095 You rarely have one-album wonders. 371 00:14:39,182 --> 00:14:41,184 - It's Black Sheep with some new shit. 372 00:14:41,271 --> 00:14:43,012 You know what I'm saying? We going to keep it moving. 373 00:14:43,099 --> 00:14:44,317 I know a lot of people are saying, 374 00:14:44,404 --> 00:14:46,232 yo, where's my man, Mista Lawnge? 375 00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:48,626 I'm very sad to tell you that Mista Lawnge 376 00:14:48,713 --> 00:14:51,063 has decided to leave the group and do his own thing. 377 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:53,239 But at the end of the day, love is love, 378 00:14:53,326 --> 00:14:54,762 and I wish him the best. 379 00:14:54,849 --> 00:14:56,416 And we going to keep it moving, right? 380 00:14:56,503 --> 00:14:59,289 - That's right. 381 00:14:59,376 --> 00:15:03,032 - At this point, it's been over 30 years. 382 00:15:03,119 --> 00:15:07,514 I don't spend a lot of time back there. 383 00:15:07,601 --> 00:15:10,387 I have those memories of me and Lawnge, 384 00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:13,956 and we're very congruent onstage. 385 00:15:14,043 --> 00:15:17,220 And we were both able to get where we both were trying 386 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:21,006 to go in that moment together. 387 00:15:21,093 --> 00:15:24,357 Once we decided to go our own ways, 388 00:15:24,444 --> 00:15:26,838 there was no partner to push you. 389 00:15:26,925 --> 00:15:31,234 It became what burned internally. 390 00:15:31,321 --> 00:15:35,934 - Them two--whatever kind of wedged them apart, 391 00:15:36,021 --> 00:15:37,544 I don't even know what it was. 392 00:15:37,631 --> 00:15:39,503 I mean, honestly, I don't. 393 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:41,853 - To this day, I don't know why things 394 00:15:41,940 --> 00:15:43,855 fell off the way they did. 395 00:15:43,942 --> 00:15:45,857 - Who knows, man? 396 00:15:45,944 --> 00:15:47,946 You know, I don't know. 397 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:55,736 - To me, getting your flowers means, 398 00:15:55,823 --> 00:15:57,738 like, you're close to dying. 399 00:15:57,825 --> 00:15:59,218 [laughs] You know what I'm saying? 400 00:15:59,305 --> 00:16:00,350 Like, all right. 401 00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:02,700 [phone rings] Hey, Ma. 402 00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:04,049 - Hey, baby. How are you? 403 00:16:04,136 --> 00:16:05,833 - I'm good. How are you? 404 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,183 - I'm good. 405 00:16:07,270 --> 00:16:08,880 - You in your room? - Yes. 406 00:16:08,967 --> 00:16:11,448 - Okay. All right, in a minute. 407 00:16:11,535 --> 00:16:13,145 [chuckles] 408 00:16:16,235 --> 00:16:17,758 - Hey, baby. - Hey, Mama. 409 00:16:17,845 --> 00:16:19,499 How are you? - Oh, my baby. 410 00:16:19,586 --> 00:16:21,023 How you doing? - I'm good. 411 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:22,720 How you doing? - I'm good. 412 00:16:22,807 --> 00:16:24,722 Mmm. I love you. 413 00:16:24,809 --> 00:16:26,071 - I love you, too. 414 00:16:26,158 --> 00:16:27,420 - Wait a minute. We're on camera now? 415 00:16:27,507 --> 00:16:29,205 - We are. 416 00:16:29,292 --> 00:16:31,294 - [laughs] That's okay. We built for this. 417 00:16:31,381 --> 00:16:32,860 Come on in, now. 418 00:16:32,947 --> 00:16:34,471 - You look good, man. 419 00:16:34,558 --> 00:16:35,733 I wouldn't believe you were in your 70s. 420 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:36,821 - Oh, honey, 70-- 421 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:38,823 Oh, let me tell you. 422 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:40,781 At the airport, they said, 75, you don't 423 00:16:40,868 --> 00:16:41,913 have to take your shoes off. 424 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,262 I said, I'll be here next year. 425 00:16:43,349 --> 00:16:44,481 [laughter] 426 00:16:44,568 --> 00:16:46,831 I'll be here. And I had on boots, too. 427 00:16:46,918 --> 00:16:48,876 I had on my Timbs because the shoes 428 00:16:48,963 --> 00:16:51,227 I was going to wear tonight-- they come, like, up to here. 429 00:16:51,314 --> 00:16:53,272 I wasn't wearing them in no airport. 430 00:16:53,359 --> 00:16:54,882 - Oh, yeah. You're not supposed to, Ma. 431 00:16:54,969 --> 00:16:56,667 - Mm, I know. I know. 432 00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:59,322 - They come up to there? - Yeah, but I got a long skirt. 433 00:16:59,409 --> 00:17:02,151 - You are doing a lot, okay? - Yeah, because it's you. 434 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:03,761 You worthy of it. - I feel that. 435 00:17:03,848 --> 00:17:04,892 That's love. - Yeah. 436 00:17:04,979 --> 00:17:07,547 [electronic music] 437 00:17:07,634 --> 00:17:08,766 ♪ ♪ 438 00:17:08,853 --> 00:17:10,333 - What's going on, man? 439 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,335 Okay. All right. 440 00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:14,250 - All right, here we go. 441 00:17:14,337 --> 00:17:16,513 All right, right now I'm here talking 442 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,384 to one of the legends that's getting inducted tonight. 443 00:17:18,471 --> 00:17:20,517 - It's quite the honor. You know what I'm saying? 444 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,388 I'm very grateful to come down to DC, 445 00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,129 especially to hang out with some heads that 446 00:17:24,216 --> 00:17:25,870 know what hip-hop is all about, represent 447 00:17:25,957 --> 00:17:27,698 the culture to the fullest. 448 00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:29,787 - The reason why The National Hip-Hop Museum 449 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:32,137 exists is because, after holding the torch 450 00:17:32,224 --> 00:17:34,792 for so many years and accomplishing so much, it is 451 00:17:34,879 --> 00:17:38,796 our obligation as Americans to give you guys your flowers. 452 00:17:38,883 --> 00:17:40,624 So right now can we get a big round of applause 453 00:17:40,711 --> 00:17:41,929 for all of our inductees-- 454 00:17:42,016 --> 00:17:44,236 [cheers and applause] 455 00:17:44,323 --> 00:17:46,064 Special Ed... 456 00:17:46,151 --> 00:17:47,413 - ♪ My name is Special Ed, and I'm a super-duper star ♪ 457 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:48,936 - CL Smooth... 458 00:17:49,023 --> 00:17:50,721 - What's up, y'all? This is the Mecca Don CL Smooth. 459 00:17:50,808 --> 00:17:52,375 - Dres. 460 00:17:52,462 --> 00:17:53,854 - Oh, look, y'all, it's Dres from Black Sheep. 461 00:17:53,941 --> 00:17:56,074 [applause] 462 00:17:56,161 --> 00:17:58,337 - So in the year of hip-hop's birthday, 463 00:17:58,424 --> 00:18:00,165 what do you feel is the most important thing 464 00:18:00,252 --> 00:18:02,124 that hip-hop has contributed to the world 465 00:18:02,211 --> 00:18:04,604 over the last five decades? 466 00:18:04,691 --> 00:18:08,695 - Hip-hop is the top-generating music genre 467 00:18:08,782 --> 00:18:10,654 for how long now? - A lot of years. 468 00:18:10,741 --> 00:18:14,266 - Every corporate entity, everything, every media, 469 00:18:14,353 --> 00:18:17,182 every medium is all hip-hop. 470 00:18:17,269 --> 00:18:19,837 So why the fuck they don't respect us in the way 471 00:18:19,924 --> 00:18:21,491 that they should? 472 00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:23,232 They don't uphold us like they do 473 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,886 these "rock and roll" legends 474 00:18:25,973 --> 00:18:27,845 and soul and whatever, whatever. 475 00:18:27,932 --> 00:18:29,716 We are them right now. 476 00:18:29,803 --> 00:18:31,762 We are the ones selling millions of records, 477 00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:33,590 streaming millions of records. 478 00:18:33,677 --> 00:18:36,158 We deserve the respect. [applause] 479 00:18:36,245 --> 00:18:38,421 - Like it or not, rap is here to stay. 480 00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:40,510 It has become part of mainstream commerce. 481 00:18:40,597 --> 00:18:42,251 - Rap in the '90s-- it's creative. 482 00:18:42,338 --> 00:18:44,514 It's candid. It's controversial. 483 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:46,255 Today on the show, we have rappers 484 00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:49,388 De La Soul to discuss the many ways to keep it real. 485 00:18:49,475 --> 00:18:51,782 - With hip-hop, there's always been big business. 486 00:18:51,869 --> 00:18:55,307 But mid '90s, us, Dres, Tribe, 487 00:18:55,394 --> 00:18:57,004 we could see it taking over. 488 00:18:57,091 --> 00:18:58,528 - Being in this business, there's 489 00:18:58,615 --> 00:18:59,833 a lot of things you're going to learn, 490 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,488 and they are screwing our love, and our love is hip-hop. 491 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:05,187 You know, our love is rap. So it's a learning process. 492 00:19:05,274 --> 00:19:07,406 - We could see what our label wanted us to do-- 493 00:19:07,493 --> 00:19:10,366 that formula and how that single, 494 00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:12,977 that one record needed to be given. 495 00:19:13,064 --> 00:19:16,763 - Hip-hop definitely gives us the opportunity to blow up. 496 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:22,552 Hip-hop also gives us the opportunity to implode. 497 00:19:22,639 --> 00:19:24,380 - "The Choice Is Yours"-- you were young, 498 00:19:24,467 --> 00:19:26,599 and did you guys do everything right so that record that 499 00:19:26,686 --> 00:19:29,559 lives today and will live on forever does 500 00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,430 benefit your children and your children's children? 501 00:19:31,517 --> 00:19:33,606 - Like, the deal wasn't a fair deal... 502 00:19:33,693 --> 00:19:35,782 both: Right. - Whereas monetarily. 503 00:19:35,869 --> 00:19:37,219 We didn't take a number-- 504 00:19:37,306 --> 00:19:38,698 - Who would know those terms, though? 505 00:19:38,785 --> 00:19:40,439 That's the crazy shit. 506 00:19:40,526 --> 00:19:41,919 - These are the things that are kind of common knowledge 507 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:43,747 that they just don't share with you. 508 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:45,618 - Well, it's not common because it's not being shared at all. 509 00:19:45,705 --> 00:19:47,011 - Yeah, yeah. 510 00:19:47,098 --> 00:19:48,578 - You know, a lot of these guys got famous-- 511 00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:50,841 They're like teen stars. 512 00:19:50,928 --> 00:19:53,017 As a young kid growing up in New York City, 513 00:19:53,104 --> 00:19:54,366 I loved the music. 514 00:19:54,453 --> 00:19:56,194 I was a fan. I would go to the clubs. 515 00:19:56,281 --> 00:19:58,022 And you had access to these people. 516 00:19:58,109 --> 00:20:00,807 And you could see how they got fucked over business-wise. 517 00:20:00,894 --> 00:20:02,809 Of course, if you're 16, and they're like, 518 00:20:02,896 --> 00:20:04,376 we're going to give you whatever 519 00:20:04,463 --> 00:20:06,030 to sign this contract, you're like, fuck it. 520 00:20:06,117 --> 00:20:09,207 You're not thinking Jay-Z, ownership, 521 00:20:09,294 --> 00:20:10,643 you know, publishing. 522 00:20:10,730 --> 00:20:12,689 This isn't even a formed genre of music. 523 00:20:12,776 --> 00:20:14,821 And you're like, fuck. I'm going to make $15,000? 524 00:20:14,908 --> 00:20:16,083 Fuck, yeah. 525 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:17,433 - For as long as I can remember, 526 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,086 I've been around hip-hop, 527 00:20:19,173 --> 00:20:21,393 as the former editor in chief at "The Source" magazine. 528 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,569 The business does get complicated. 529 00:20:23,656 --> 00:20:25,832 You have to understand the industry 530 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:27,530 that you're making music in. 531 00:20:27,617 --> 00:20:30,359 It's the key to survival as you continue 532 00:20:30,446 --> 00:20:32,056 to grow old in the industry 533 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:34,014 because you're going to need it. 534 00:20:34,101 --> 00:20:36,930 - Dres told me he's seen old-school rapper 535 00:20:37,017 --> 00:20:38,497 hopping a train, actually. 536 00:20:38,584 --> 00:20:40,238 We was like, yo, that shit is crazy. 537 00:20:40,325 --> 00:20:42,414 And Dres was like, yo, I wanted to help him, 538 00:20:42,501 --> 00:20:44,242 but, like, I wasn't really in the situation-- 539 00:20:44,329 --> 00:20:45,722 Like, I ain't with him. 540 00:20:45,809 --> 00:20:47,811 Fuck, I don't want to give him no fucking $40. 541 00:20:47,898 --> 00:20:49,247 You know what I mean? 542 00:20:49,334 --> 00:20:50,683 - I think it's a concerted effort to try 543 00:20:50,770 --> 00:20:52,381 to take advantage of people. 544 00:20:52,468 --> 00:20:54,208 I'm gonna keep it funky. You know what I'm saying? 545 00:20:54,296 --> 00:20:55,949 Yeah. - You got 8, 9 points. 546 00:20:56,036 --> 00:20:57,951 They don't tell you that that's percentage. 547 00:20:58,038 --> 00:21:01,259 That means there's 90% that exists 548 00:21:01,346 --> 00:21:03,261 that's not yours off of what you did. 549 00:21:03,348 --> 00:21:05,263 - What you made. - Right. 550 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:07,700 And God forbid you splitting it. 551 00:21:07,787 --> 00:21:11,965 I should be a multimillionaire if they just gave me half. 552 00:21:12,052 --> 00:21:14,054 - Black Sheep were an integral part 553 00:21:14,141 --> 00:21:16,535 of early 1990s renaissance hip-hop 554 00:21:16,622 --> 00:21:18,450 coming out of the Five Boroughs. 555 00:21:18,537 --> 00:21:20,365 As part of The Native Tongue collective, 556 00:21:20,452 --> 00:21:23,237 Dres and his DJ, Mista Lawnge, embody the spirit 557 00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:25,239 of that group of musicians. 558 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:29,026 But they maintained their own style and approach to music. 559 00:21:29,113 --> 00:21:32,551 And in 1997, Dres dropped his first solo project. 560 00:21:32,638 --> 00:21:35,989 As well, he has released independent music and material 561 00:21:36,076 --> 00:21:38,122 as recently as last year. 562 00:21:38,209 --> 00:21:39,863 Give it up for Dres. 563 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:42,387 [cheers and applause] 564 00:21:42,474 --> 00:21:43,736 - ♪ Yes, it's me ♪ 565 00:21:43,823 --> 00:21:45,477 ♪ D-R-E-S ♪ 566 00:21:45,564 --> 00:21:48,262 - All right. - Yeah, yeah. 567 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:50,961 - For me, music is all-encompassing. 568 00:21:51,048 --> 00:21:53,964 It's a beautiful reason to wake up every day. 569 00:21:54,051 --> 00:21:55,966 It's a strong reason 570 00:21:56,053 --> 00:21:59,622 to learn to correct yourself 571 00:21:59,709 --> 00:22:01,319 because we're all going to make the mistakes 572 00:22:01,406 --> 00:22:02,625 that we're going to make. 573 00:22:02,712 --> 00:22:04,496 That's what life is. 574 00:22:04,583 --> 00:22:07,717 But be defined by what you correct. 575 00:22:07,804 --> 00:22:09,806 [applause] 576 00:22:09,893 --> 00:22:14,550 I'm working on some really, really, really new dope shit. 577 00:22:14,637 --> 00:22:17,901 This particular project is a DnD project-- 578 00:22:17,988 --> 00:22:20,338 Dilla and Dres. [cheers and applause] 579 00:22:20,425 --> 00:22:21,557 All right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 580 00:22:21,644 --> 00:22:24,124 It's happening. It's going down. 581 00:22:24,211 --> 00:22:27,606 Like, I've been allowed to visit 582 00:22:27,693 --> 00:22:29,608 a sacred land 583 00:22:29,695 --> 00:22:33,090 and pull a project 584 00:22:33,177 --> 00:22:35,484 produced entirely by J Dilla. 585 00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:39,531 And I'm asking all of y'all 586 00:22:39,618 --> 00:22:41,359 to see that star when it shines, 587 00:22:41,446 --> 00:22:43,753 'cause it's going to shine. 588 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,668 You know what I'm saying? That's my word. 589 00:22:45,755 --> 00:22:47,539 I'm just asking you to pay attention a little bit. 590 00:22:47,626 --> 00:22:49,802 You know what I'm saying? Word up. 591 00:22:49,889 --> 00:22:54,677 [cheers and applause] 592 00:22:54,764 --> 00:22:57,680 How y'all feeling? [cheering] 593 00:22:57,767 --> 00:22:59,159 I can't hear y'all. 594 00:22:59,246 --> 00:23:03,163 How y'all feeling, man? [cheering] 595 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:06,340 Want to take it back? - Way back, back into time. 596 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:07,994 ["The Choice Is Your" playing] 597 00:23:08,081 --> 00:23:10,519 - Okay. 598 00:23:10,606 --> 00:23:12,956 Real quick. [cheering] 599 00:23:13,043 --> 00:23:15,611 Yes, we-- Yo! 600 00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:23,140 I only recall meeting Dilla one time 601 00:23:23,227 --> 00:23:26,143 in passing in life, 602 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:30,408 though he worked with everyone of the Natives-- 603 00:23:30,495 --> 00:23:32,628 very close with Tribe. 604 00:23:32,715 --> 00:23:35,195 You know, he did a lot of work with De La. 605 00:23:35,282 --> 00:23:37,241 - When I make my music-- you know what I'm saying?-- 606 00:23:37,328 --> 00:23:39,112 I want people to feel what I feel. 607 00:23:39,199 --> 00:23:42,333 I want them to feel that energy that I--whatever it was. 608 00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:43,726 Yeah, that's all it is, 609 00:23:43,813 --> 00:23:45,510 because I make it straight from the heart. 610 00:23:45,597 --> 00:23:46,859 - ♪ Stakes is high ♪ 611 00:23:46,946 --> 00:23:48,687 ♪ You know them stakes is high ♪ 612 00:23:48,774 --> 00:23:51,473 - JD from Detroit was definitely one 613 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,824 of the illest producers ever. 614 00:23:54,911 --> 00:23:57,870 - J Dilla was truly one of the purest musicians 615 00:23:57,957 --> 00:23:59,437 I've ever met. 616 00:23:59,524 --> 00:24:01,178 - Dilla came with his own sound, 617 00:24:01,265 --> 00:24:04,007 his own beat, his own pace, his own scratches, 618 00:24:04,094 --> 00:24:05,443 his own melodies. 619 00:24:05,530 --> 00:24:07,880 And then he started working with everybody. 620 00:24:07,967 --> 00:24:09,621 - He worked with so many people, 621 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:12,058 from The Pharcyde, to Tribe... 622 00:24:12,145 --> 00:24:13,190 - De La Soul. 623 00:24:13,277 --> 00:24:14,757 - The Roots, Erykah Badu. 624 00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:17,368 - Busta Rhymes, Janet Jackson. 625 00:24:17,455 --> 00:24:18,543 And he from Detroit. 626 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:21,894 So we like, that's our guy. 627 00:24:21,981 --> 00:24:24,636 - A significant role in hip-hop is the sampling. 628 00:24:24,723 --> 00:24:26,986 And one of the best to ever do it is J Dilla. 629 00:24:27,073 --> 00:24:28,901 - All I know how to do is work the MPC 630 00:24:28,988 --> 00:24:30,947 and listen to these breakbeats and chop shit. 631 00:24:31,034 --> 00:24:32,862 You know what I'm saying? I come from that hip-hop shit. 632 00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:35,865 - What he was doing was merging jazz... 633 00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:39,346 funk, soul. 634 00:24:39,433 --> 00:24:43,263 He was flipping any record, anything. 635 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:46,136 - The pieces of the record that he would sample-- 636 00:24:46,223 --> 00:24:47,964 it would be the same record you sampled, 637 00:24:48,051 --> 00:24:50,183 but he would find a piece in that shit 638 00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:51,750 that you would never even think to use 639 00:24:51,837 --> 00:24:54,144 or couldn't even use it that way. 640 00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:56,886 - He could make a Soca record, a reggae record, 641 00:24:56,973 --> 00:24:58,627 an R&B record. 642 00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:00,542 It was just in a way that no one else would do. 643 00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:02,544 And I mean, effortlessly. 644 00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:05,329 - Like, yeah, he did hip-hop, but he's way bigger than that. 645 00:25:05,416 --> 00:25:07,461 He's a jazz musician. 646 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:08,985 - He knew his time signature. 647 00:25:09,072 --> 00:25:10,900 He was programming it, 648 00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:12,989 but it just felt live, the swing of it. 649 00:25:13,076 --> 00:25:15,295 He had an understanding of it that he could manipulate it 650 00:25:15,382 --> 00:25:16,906 any way that he wanted to. 651 00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:18,951 - He was like, truly, a scientist at it. 652 00:25:19,038 --> 00:25:21,475 - Artists like Dilla gave us a new voice, 653 00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:24,348 currency, a relevancy. 654 00:25:24,435 --> 00:25:27,394 - And that's real raw talent right there. 655 00:25:27,481 --> 00:25:29,440 And that's why we still talking about him--because his beats 656 00:25:29,527 --> 00:25:31,268 got us still talking. 657 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:34,227 [calm music] 658 00:25:34,314 --> 00:25:38,710 ♪ ♪ 659 00:25:38,797 --> 00:25:41,931 - Went out to Puerto Rico to do a charity event, 660 00:25:42,018 --> 00:25:45,848 and I was blessed to meet Ma Dukes. 661 00:25:45,935 --> 00:25:48,981 - Can't never get enough bell pepper and onion. 662 00:25:49,068 --> 00:25:51,680 Let's see, finish cooking this sauce. 663 00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:53,725 - And I was offered an opportunity 664 00:25:53,812 --> 00:25:55,335 to come back to their house... 665 00:25:55,422 --> 00:25:57,511 - Keep my pasta loose. 666 00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,601 - For a meal and, you know, just sit up and listen 667 00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:01,298 to music, this, that, and the other. 668 00:26:01,385 --> 00:26:04,214 - Welcome to the hot kitchen. [laughs] 669 00:26:04,301 --> 00:26:06,825 Dilla--he didn't have a lot of freedom as a kid. 670 00:26:06,912 --> 00:26:08,653 And, you know, at that time, you could go to a record shop, 671 00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:10,699 you hear something playing new. 672 00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:12,091 Because he was such a great kid during the week, 673 00:26:12,178 --> 00:26:14,833 when his dad worked, he got to get record or two. 674 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,749 You know, he'd do that-- build his record collection. 675 00:26:17,836 --> 00:26:20,665 He was exceptionally gifted. 676 00:26:20,752 --> 00:26:23,973 He could take anything apart. He was mechanically inclined. 677 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:25,322 Everybody liked him. 678 00:26:25,409 --> 00:26:26,976 But he wasn't outgoing. 679 00:26:27,063 --> 00:26:29,456 And if he didn't say anything or didn't speak, 680 00:26:29,543 --> 00:26:31,371 it was just because his mind was, like-- 681 00:26:31,458 --> 00:26:33,199 his head was in a different space. 682 00:26:33,286 --> 00:26:35,549 Everything is like done through math and science, 683 00:26:35,637 --> 00:26:37,508 even with the music, you know. 684 00:26:37,595 --> 00:26:40,859 Was used to hearing music of all genres-- 685 00:26:40,946 --> 00:26:44,776 Mr. Yancey, who had been a musician for over 25 years 686 00:26:44,863 --> 00:26:47,170 professionally, as well as his job 687 00:26:47,257 --> 00:26:50,173 at Ford Motor Company for 40 years 688 00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:52,871 before he passed away. 689 00:26:52,958 --> 00:26:57,267 We entertained a lot of musicians. 690 00:26:57,354 --> 00:27:01,358 When Dilla was a baby, at 11 months old, 691 00:27:01,445 --> 00:27:04,056 he would hear James Brown record come on. 692 00:27:04,143 --> 00:27:07,669 And within the third beat, he'd be up dancing. 693 00:27:07,756 --> 00:27:09,801 But he had not learned to walk yet, 694 00:27:09,888 --> 00:27:12,630 and he's in a whole different world. 695 00:27:12,717 --> 00:27:16,460 So music had him early on. 696 00:27:18,157 --> 00:27:20,377 - If I can get my folder. - All right. 697 00:27:20,464 --> 00:27:22,640 - A lot of stuff was floating around on the Internet 698 00:27:22,727 --> 00:27:24,511 because it wasn't released properly. 699 00:27:24,598 --> 00:27:27,123 And so I had to encrypt a lot of stuff. 700 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:28,733 - Why? 701 00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:31,301 - 'Cause folks are always wanting to do music projects 702 00:27:31,388 --> 00:27:33,782 with us, yet they're using songs that they 703 00:27:33,869 --> 00:27:35,174 don't have permission to use. 704 00:27:35,261 --> 00:27:37,611 It's the legal stuff that I got to take care of. 705 00:27:37,699 --> 00:27:40,266 But the music--being back home with the family 706 00:27:40,353 --> 00:27:42,616 makes all of that so much easier. 707 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:45,489 - The guy basically chopped my record. 708 00:27:45,576 --> 00:27:47,099 It got around-- bootleg versions. 709 00:27:47,186 --> 00:27:48,318 And that was a big hit. 710 00:27:48,405 --> 00:27:49,667 It was my fucking beats. 711 00:27:49,754 --> 00:27:51,408 - Your tune? - Yeah. 712 00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:53,279 And it's like--that was kind of in the beginning-- 713 00:27:53,366 --> 00:27:55,064 you know what I'm saying-- when I learned about that shit. 714 00:27:55,151 --> 00:27:56,239 And people can just take your shit 715 00:27:56,326 --> 00:27:58,241 and sample it and rap over it. 716 00:27:58,328 --> 00:27:59,198 And you know what I'm saying? 717 00:27:59,285 --> 00:28:00,547 Ah. 718 00:28:00,634 --> 00:28:01,984 I can't stand that shit. 719 00:28:02,071 --> 00:28:04,856 [rhythmic music playing] 720 00:28:04,943 --> 00:28:05,901 - Oh, that was it? 721 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:07,206 - 10:72. 722 00:28:07,293 --> 00:28:08,860 - Yo, play it again. 723 00:28:08,947 --> 00:28:10,253 ♪ ♪ 724 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:11,776 Yo. 725 00:28:11,863 --> 00:28:13,647 [laughter] 726 00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:15,084 - And catch you off guard. 727 00:28:15,171 --> 00:28:16,172 - Yo. 728 00:28:16,259 --> 00:28:18,565 ♪ ♪ 729 00:28:18,652 --> 00:28:20,959 - ♪ I was killing the heart, killing in the spot ♪ 730 00:28:21,046 --> 00:28:23,179 ♪ Chilling the squad, I seen it before ♪ 731 00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:25,355 ♪ Tonight she ain't feeling the dark ♪ 732 00:28:25,442 --> 00:28:28,227 - Listening to Dilla's tracks no one had ever heard before, 733 00:28:28,314 --> 00:28:30,534 I became excited. 734 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,886 End of the night, I wound up leaving Puerto Rico 735 00:28:34,973 --> 00:28:38,977 with the opportunity to make an album from Dilla's catalog 736 00:28:39,064 --> 00:28:42,241 and a hard drive of Dilla's beats, 737 00:28:42,328 --> 00:28:45,941 music that was produced, you know, 15 years ago. 738 00:28:48,291 --> 00:28:51,033 Ma Dukes could have had any artist 739 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,644 in the world do this project. 740 00:28:53,731 --> 00:28:57,387 But I'm really grateful because it's me. 741 00:28:57,474 --> 00:29:01,347 - When I met you and the vibe I got and the love I felt, 742 00:29:01,434 --> 00:29:03,132 that was genuine. 743 00:29:03,219 --> 00:29:06,570 And I just felt like I had been around you always. 744 00:29:06,657 --> 00:29:09,355 And that means a lot to me. 745 00:29:09,442 --> 00:29:13,098 Dilla always told me, it's a time for everything. 746 00:29:13,185 --> 00:29:14,970 - All right. 747 00:29:15,057 --> 00:29:17,755 - Let me know to calm down and to wait for that moment. 748 00:29:17,842 --> 00:29:20,105 And this is the time. - All right. 749 00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:21,933 Let's make it happen. 750 00:29:22,020 --> 00:29:23,282 No doubt. 751 00:29:23,369 --> 00:29:26,764 - And, Dres, you got it. - Ah, thank you, Ma. 752 00:29:26,851 --> 00:29:28,418 - You got the golden Willy Wonka gold ticket. 753 00:29:28,505 --> 00:29:29,941 [laughter] 754 00:29:30,028 --> 00:29:31,682 - Thank you, Ma. - Make it happen. 755 00:29:31,769 --> 00:29:32,683 Make it happen. 756 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:34,467 - I was humbled. 757 00:29:34,554 --> 00:29:37,253 I was honored, and I felt a sense of accountability 758 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:39,168 to what I was about to do. 759 00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:44,869 ♪ ♪ 760 00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:48,830 - I'm excited about it. 761 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:52,311 Dres, you know, over Dilla beats would be dope. 762 00:29:52,398 --> 00:29:54,661 - That's dope. 763 00:29:54,748 --> 00:29:56,707 - Oh, really? - [chuckles] 764 00:29:56,794 --> 00:29:59,057 - Wow. [chuckles] 765 00:29:59,144 --> 00:30:01,538 Lucky him. 766 00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:04,410 - Doing this has been very therapeutic for me. 767 00:30:04,497 --> 00:30:06,804 I've also been able to kind of just look 768 00:30:06,891 --> 00:30:08,850 at myself and the artist that I am 769 00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:12,723 and how important it is for me to push 770 00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:15,682 forward to do the work. 771 00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:19,599 ♪ ♪ 772 00:30:19,686 --> 00:30:22,689 But I just picked, like, 40 tracks to start working. 773 00:30:22,776 --> 00:30:25,431 The links are--you know, like, this is 23 seconds. 774 00:30:25,518 --> 00:30:28,217 This is a minute and 24. This is 20 seconds right here. 775 00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:32,047 Creating an entire song from a snippet 776 00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:35,354 has really been a cool experience. 777 00:30:35,441 --> 00:30:37,835 It's not about just writing a rhyme 778 00:30:37,922 --> 00:30:41,273 and force-feeding it to a track. 779 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,017 You know, this project has been very much me 780 00:30:46,104 --> 00:30:48,498 falling in love with what I'm hearing... 781 00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:52,632 ♪ I see the stars in your eyes, laying on Drew Hill ♪ 782 00:30:52,719 --> 00:30:56,114 And letting that pull out what should go on it. 783 00:30:56,201 --> 00:30:58,290 ♪ Baby, loving you a virtue ♪ 784 00:30:58,377 --> 00:30:59,901 ♪ If I had you, wouldn't hurt you ♪ 785 00:30:59,988 --> 00:31:01,772 ♪ Couldn't do nothing but nurse your beauty, easy to see ♪ 786 00:31:01,859 --> 00:31:03,034 ♪ Said I'll show you what it mean ♪ 787 00:31:03,121 --> 00:31:04,427 ♪ You were born my queen ♪ 788 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:06,255 - Here we go. 789 00:31:06,342 --> 00:31:09,214 - [playing saxophone] 790 00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:13,871 ♪ ♪ 791 00:31:13,958 --> 00:31:15,829 - You're so amazing. 792 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,266 Yo, that was crazy. 793 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,615 - Dilla is tricky, man. 794 00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:20,356 Now that I'm listening to this... 795 00:31:20,443 --> 00:31:21,531 - Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And playing... 796 00:31:21,618 --> 00:31:23,141 - Yo, yeah. That's my word. 797 00:31:23,228 --> 00:31:24,926 - I'm like, the harmony that this cat is using-- 798 00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:27,189 - It ends differently than just a 16-bar rhyme. 799 00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:28,364 - Right, right, right. 800 00:31:28,451 --> 00:31:35,066 ♪ ♪ 801 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,551 - You got some joints I ain't even heard before. 802 00:31:41,638 --> 00:31:43,422 - I ain't heard a third of them. 803 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:45,163 - Right. 804 00:31:45,250 --> 00:31:47,165 - It's so much more for me to listen to. 805 00:31:47,252 --> 00:31:49,124 - Word. - He's a genius, man. 806 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:50,995 - ♪ I need it because they hoping for my nap ♪ 807 00:31:51,082 --> 00:31:52,823 ♪ And they know that New York is on our back ♪ 808 00:31:52,910 --> 00:31:54,564 ♪ You broke in on... ♪ 809 00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:58,089 - Dilla is somebody you can't afford to mess up. 810 00:31:58,176 --> 00:32:00,222 - ♪ She won't know where I'm at ♪ 811 00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:01,440 - People would be very unkind to you 812 00:32:01,527 --> 00:32:03,225 if you take a Dilla track, and you 813 00:32:03,312 --> 00:32:04,835 don't make the most out of it. 814 00:32:04,922 --> 00:32:06,402 - One, two, one, two. 815 00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:08,056 ♪ Then they get no data ♪ 816 00:32:08,143 --> 00:32:09,796 ♪ In any dream that don't include us ♪ 817 00:32:09,883 --> 00:32:11,798 One more time. 818 00:32:11,885 --> 00:32:14,236 - I know, like, Dilla's mom 819 00:32:14,323 --> 00:32:17,065 giving Dres those beats 820 00:32:17,152 --> 00:32:20,198 was like giving him her heart... 821 00:32:20,285 --> 00:32:21,808 in a lot of ways. 822 00:32:21,895 --> 00:32:25,682 - People have very strong, visceral feelings 823 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:28,250 about everything J Dilla. 824 00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:30,426 - ♪ Any dream that don't include us... ♪ 825 00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:33,124 - Normally, I would be like, I hate this. 826 00:32:35,605 --> 00:32:37,128 You know what I'm saying? 827 00:32:37,215 --> 00:32:40,044 But I know Dres. I love Dres. 828 00:32:40,131 --> 00:32:41,785 And I know his heart. 829 00:32:41,872 --> 00:32:45,745 But a lot of the "purists"-- we don't fuck with that shit. 830 00:32:45,832 --> 00:32:47,225 - Even if Dilla was alive, 831 00:32:47,312 --> 00:32:50,011 you're going to get held to a very high standard 832 00:32:50,098 --> 00:32:52,535 that's going to be tough to live up to. 833 00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:56,582 And, also, there's obviously no collaboration of any sort. 834 00:32:56,669 --> 00:32:59,368 It's not like we think of Dres and Dilla 835 00:32:59,455 --> 00:33:00,978 in the same room at all. 836 00:33:01,065 --> 00:33:03,633 - ♪ Game, new deal-- ♪ Ah! 837 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,722 - So there's also going to be that certain aspect 838 00:33:05,809 --> 00:33:07,637 of people going, that's random. 839 00:33:07,724 --> 00:33:09,639 - Don't worry about what people are saying. 840 00:33:09,726 --> 00:33:10,814 Worry about what your heart is saying. 841 00:33:10,901 --> 00:33:12,729 - ♪ New deal ♪ 842 00:33:12,816 --> 00:33:14,426 ♪ I see the stars in your eyes laying on-- ♪ 843 00:33:14,513 --> 00:33:15,949 - Worry about what you're going to do 844 00:33:16,037 --> 00:33:20,650 to make this a hot project. 845 00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:21,912 He know what to do. 846 00:33:21,999 --> 00:33:23,174 - No, one more time. 847 00:33:23,261 --> 00:33:29,789 ♪ ♪ 848 00:33:34,316 --> 00:33:35,839 What I'd like to do is just play you guys 849 00:33:35,926 --> 00:33:38,885 some of the full-length cuts from the DnD project. 850 00:33:38,972 --> 00:33:42,759 And I've taken this journey, like, so internally, 851 00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:46,980 and each track, I feel like told me something. 852 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:48,417 So I want, you know, just play some 853 00:33:48,504 --> 00:33:50,158 of these joints for y'all. - Okay. 854 00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:52,421 - All right, cool. - Yeah. 855 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:54,640 - This one is the one with CeeLo. 856 00:33:54,727 --> 00:33:57,513 And he kills--like, he's just so amazing. 857 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,776 - I can't even imagine. - Yeah, CeeLo is amazing. 858 00:33:59,863 --> 00:34:02,909 ♪ ♪ 859 00:34:02,996 --> 00:34:07,653 - ♪ You know I'm there, but you don't really know me ♪ 860 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:09,742 ♪ The limelight moves around ♪ - Yeah. 861 00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:12,571 - [clapping] 862 00:34:12,658 --> 00:34:14,138 Wow. 863 00:34:14,225 --> 00:34:17,576 Is it still the same way? - For now. 864 00:34:17,663 --> 00:34:21,711 - ♪ Don't give a fuck about that shit you do ♪ 865 00:34:21,798 --> 00:34:23,626 - Ha ha! 866 00:34:23,713 --> 00:34:27,543 - ♪ That way for lots of family ♪ 867 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:29,153 - Oh, damn. 868 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,199 - That's on point. - Who's on this one? 869 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:33,984 - Alexander Simone, Nina Simone's grandson, 870 00:34:34,071 --> 00:34:34,854 and Freeway. - Right. 871 00:34:34,941 --> 00:34:37,118 - Yeah. - Wow. 872 00:34:37,205 --> 00:34:38,815 ♪ ♪ 873 00:34:38,902 --> 00:34:40,730 - Usually you don't get that-- 874 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:42,340 - That is a full album. 875 00:34:42,427 --> 00:34:44,473 - Yeah, I'm just saying that everything is hot. 876 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,605 So it's, like, fresh and new for me, 877 00:34:46,692 --> 00:34:48,564 but I'm, like, really energized and excited. 878 00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:52,176 It's like I recognize what you've been through, 879 00:34:52,263 --> 00:34:53,699 and here you go. 880 00:34:53,786 --> 00:34:55,310 God got you. - All right. 881 00:34:55,397 --> 00:34:57,138 - This project is for you. - I love that. 882 00:34:57,225 --> 00:35:00,793 I love that. I love that--love it, love it. 883 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,404 - Just to give it a little ambience, 884 00:35:02,491 --> 00:35:04,580 I just decided to keep some of the coconut. 885 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:08,714 I met Maureen with DC Loves Dilla. 886 00:35:08,801 --> 00:35:11,543 They had to come to the radio station. 887 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:14,242 When we got closer and closer, and then I said, 888 00:35:14,329 --> 00:35:16,157 I'm gonna take you to Puerto Rico. 889 00:35:16,244 --> 00:35:18,159 - Look at it. - Yeah, a little lizard, yeah. 890 00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:19,725 He wants to be in the picture, too, I guess. 891 00:35:19,812 --> 00:35:21,553 - You know, she really didn't understand it, 892 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,774 but that was our first real date-- 893 00:35:24,861 --> 00:35:27,951 me going and taking her to Puerto Rico. 894 00:35:28,038 --> 00:35:31,433 That's when I started asking her certain real questions 895 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,478 about, like, the people who was around her, 896 00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:35,176 helping her facilitate the legacy 897 00:35:35,263 --> 00:35:37,221 and the estate and everything. 898 00:35:37,308 --> 00:35:40,355 And I asked basic questions-- couldn't get answered. 899 00:35:40,442 --> 00:35:42,008 That's when I knew it was a problem. 900 00:35:42,095 --> 00:35:43,793 - After Dilla's passing, 901 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,187 there's a lot of confusion, particularly 902 00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:48,189 those who should be reaping the benefits 903 00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:50,321 of his hard work, which is-- 904 00:35:50,408 --> 00:35:52,932 - You know, you reading about it, you're hearing about it. 905 00:35:53,019 --> 00:35:55,152 Unfortunately, the lawyers and the curator of the estate 906 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,414 wouldn't let her do nothing. 907 00:35:56,501 --> 00:35:59,200 The estate people was sitting there 908 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:00,940 trying to tell her she can't go do 909 00:36:01,027 --> 00:36:03,204 anything with Dilla's music. 910 00:36:03,291 --> 00:36:05,249 They were stopping her and stealing 911 00:36:05,336 --> 00:36:06,816 intellectual property. 912 00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:09,079 Shit bags. 913 00:36:10,776 --> 00:36:12,561 Dilla's dead. 914 00:36:12,648 --> 00:36:16,913 His family is alive keeping the legacy alive. 915 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,264 So when I got involved, 916 00:36:20,351 --> 00:36:22,397 I'm going to do like any businessman is going to do-- 917 00:36:22,484 --> 00:36:23,920 fire everybody. 918 00:36:24,007 --> 00:36:25,965 - Really, the person who is pushing 919 00:36:26,052 --> 00:36:28,794 forward all things J Dilla 920 00:36:28,881 --> 00:36:31,232 and keeping his memory alive... 921 00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:36,411 Since Dilla's passing, there has not been a lot of success 922 00:36:36,498 --> 00:36:39,501 in getting Dilla's music out there. 923 00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:41,242 - Yo, it's like you don't want to get involved 924 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:44,593 in the messiness sometimes of someone leaving us, 925 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,508 and then who controls the estate 926 00:36:46,595 --> 00:36:50,294 or the creative aspect of it? 927 00:36:50,381 --> 00:36:52,470 You know, it can be very tricky. 928 00:36:52,557 --> 00:36:55,256 - You know, just because you have something, 929 00:36:55,343 --> 00:36:57,910 it might not just be yours. 930 00:36:57,997 --> 00:37:01,653 You know, me with Prodigy-- I go through the same thing. 931 00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:03,394 I'm gung-ho about putting something out, 932 00:37:03,481 --> 00:37:06,963 but I have to treat it as if Prodigy is here. 933 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:09,095 It's like, okay, you get this amount of money. 934 00:37:09,182 --> 00:37:10,575 And you get that amount of money. 935 00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:13,883 And let's just honor our loved one. 936 00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:17,669 - We humbly learned the down effects of the music business. 937 00:37:17,756 --> 00:37:19,323 We learned that. 938 00:37:19,410 --> 00:37:20,933 Yeah, it's a difficult-- 939 00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,718 I can't even speak on the situation. 940 00:37:22,805 --> 00:37:24,850 I hope it gets rectified, man. I hope-- 941 00:37:24,937 --> 00:37:27,418 - The importance of making sure everything 942 00:37:27,505 --> 00:37:29,159 is clear with this particular project is because 943 00:37:29,246 --> 00:37:31,683 you've had so many people using Dilla's 944 00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:35,339 music without permission, putting it out. 945 00:37:35,426 --> 00:37:38,429 And then they wonder--you come back to us and asking us, 946 00:37:38,516 --> 00:37:40,649 how come my song got taken down? 947 00:37:40,736 --> 00:37:42,128 Like, what happened? 948 00:37:42,215 --> 00:37:44,087 I put out a good project and everything 949 00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:48,265 that people think that it's okay to take someone's property 950 00:37:48,352 --> 00:37:51,703 and utilize it for your benefit 951 00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:53,618 without having permission. 952 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:55,316 - Oh, yeah? 953 00:37:55,403 --> 00:37:58,710 Like, and naming it DnD, Dilla and Dres, 954 00:37:58,797 --> 00:38:02,932 like, I felt like it was important that we bond, 955 00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:06,152 that this is an opportunity to be the difference in some 956 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,025 of the stuff that gets questioned 957 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:10,722 and some of the stuff that gets acknowledged. 958 00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:13,638 DnD is something that, you know, like-- 959 00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:15,031 I'll put like this. 960 00:38:15,118 --> 00:38:16,902 When we did "The Choice Is Yours," 961 00:38:16,989 --> 00:38:18,774 I'm standing in front of the mixing board next to Lawnge, 962 00:38:18,861 --> 00:38:22,430 and I'm like, I don't know what we just did, 963 00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:24,345 but I know we just did something. 964 00:38:24,432 --> 00:38:26,434 - Word. - And that's how I feel. 965 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:31,264 There is a pressure that I put upon myself, 966 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:32,962 if anything, I think. 967 00:38:33,049 --> 00:38:34,703 These people that love your son... 968 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,618 - Yeah. 969 00:38:36,705 --> 00:38:38,750 - They're looking at me like, and you're about to do what? 970 00:38:38,837 --> 00:38:41,231 [laughter] 971 00:38:41,318 --> 00:38:43,276 - He's gone, but his music is still here. 972 00:38:43,364 --> 00:38:44,887 - Right. - You've been given the idea. 973 00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:46,410 You've been given the talent. 974 00:38:46,497 --> 00:38:49,108 You've been blessed to make this approach 975 00:38:49,195 --> 00:38:53,330 and shine more light on what and who he was from people 976 00:38:53,417 --> 00:38:54,418 that knew him best. - Yeah. 977 00:38:54,505 --> 00:38:56,464 - I think that's very important. 978 00:38:56,551 --> 00:38:58,074 You know, it's going to be a lot of those people 979 00:38:58,161 --> 00:38:59,945 that really don't know how to feel. 980 00:39:00,032 --> 00:39:02,252 It's a lot of those people that were close to him 981 00:39:02,339 --> 00:39:04,733 that are still mourning him. - Right. 982 00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:08,606 - You can't be afraid to take that step. 983 00:39:08,693 --> 00:39:10,782 Let them have a taste of Dilla, you know, 984 00:39:10,869 --> 00:39:13,306 and show them--so you've got to give it to them. 985 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,047 - That's real. That's what we about to do. 986 00:39:15,134 --> 00:39:16,527 - Exactly, exactly. 987 00:39:21,402 --> 00:39:24,230 [serene music] 988 00:39:24,317 --> 00:39:29,148 ♪ ♪ 989 00:39:29,235 --> 00:39:32,021 - One of the things that's really important to me 990 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:34,502 in the making of this project is Dilla's approval. 991 00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:38,331 And all of that doesn't take place any other way 992 00:39:38,419 --> 00:39:40,812 without me learning about him. 993 00:39:40,899 --> 00:39:44,163 I wasn't going to get a phone call from Dilla. 994 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:47,253 I had to take the initiative to find him. 995 00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:50,605 I had to take the initiative to find his friends. 996 00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:52,607 - Where's Frank? Oh, wait--Frank, Frank. 997 00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:54,086 - I'm here. Frank is here. 998 00:39:54,173 --> 00:39:56,349 How y'all doing? Holla at your boy. 999 00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:58,351 Dilla, tell me if you remember this--when we was in the... 1000 00:39:58,439 --> 00:40:01,137 - Frank Nitty was Dilla's right hand. 1001 00:40:01,224 --> 00:40:04,793 Frank was always there, and he cared about Dilla. 1002 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,403 - Seven years I put out records. 1003 00:40:06,490 --> 00:40:08,231 Everything I put out was a J Dilla track. 1004 00:40:08,318 --> 00:40:10,189 - Everybody needs that guy to hold him down, 1005 00:40:10,276 --> 00:40:12,061 and that was him. 1006 00:40:12,148 --> 00:40:13,323 - ♪ Is how we do ♪ 1007 00:40:13,410 --> 00:40:14,498 ♪ We can do two ♪ 1008 00:40:14,585 --> 00:40:16,021 ♪ We got two for you ♪ 1009 00:40:16,108 --> 00:40:17,458 - And he can rap pretty fucking good, too. 1010 00:40:17,545 --> 00:40:19,982 - What's up? - What up, yo? 1011 00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:22,201 - Want to come ride in the family vehicle? 1012 00:40:22,288 --> 00:40:23,376 - Dude. What up? 1013 00:40:23,464 --> 00:40:25,161 You feel me? - Chilling, man. 1014 00:40:25,248 --> 00:40:26,771 Welcome, welcome, welcome. - That's what's up. 1015 00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:28,164 Man, we've been waiting for this. 1016 00:40:28,251 --> 00:40:29,774 - Yeah. 1017 00:40:29,861 --> 00:40:31,733 Yep. 1018 00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:34,170 - When I was, you know, going through Dilla's catalog 1019 00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:35,780 and pulling tracks, 1020 00:40:35,867 --> 00:40:37,739 I didn't know that Frank Nitt--he was the one 1021 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:40,393 that compiled them all. 1022 00:40:40,481 --> 00:40:43,614 - It's dope that you taking the time to get a little history. 1023 00:40:43,701 --> 00:40:46,399 But if he was here and we was doing this, 1024 00:40:46,487 --> 00:40:48,706 I probably would've been in his car picking you up 1025 00:40:48,793 --> 00:40:50,969 from the airport to come do the work, 1026 00:40:51,056 --> 00:40:53,102 because that's how it went down, you know what I'm saying? 1027 00:40:53,189 --> 00:40:55,278 I'm so grateful for it, man. 1028 00:40:55,365 --> 00:40:57,106 - Dres, my mom wants you. 1029 00:40:57,193 --> 00:40:58,760 - And he's extremely humble. 1030 00:40:58,847 --> 00:40:59,935 He's a good guy. 1031 00:41:00,022 --> 00:41:01,676 Don't let his humble fool you. 1032 00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:04,026 This a hip-hop luminary in a lot of ways 1033 00:41:04,113 --> 00:41:06,768 just hanging out in your basement at this point. 1034 00:41:06,855 --> 00:41:07,856 [laughs] 1035 00:41:07,943 --> 00:41:09,727 Being here creates 1036 00:41:09,814 --> 00:41:13,035 a certain type of individual based on the path you take. 1037 00:41:13,122 --> 00:41:14,776 - One thing about being from Detroit 1038 00:41:14,863 --> 00:41:17,518 and being from the '80s or the '90s, in particular-- 1039 00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:18,867 I would say it's an acquired taste. 1040 00:41:18,954 --> 00:41:21,957 - Jalen Rose from the University of Michigan. 1041 00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:23,698 - That's where I can help him a whole lot, 1042 00:41:23,785 --> 00:41:25,308 and that's what I'm looking to do from day one. 1043 00:41:25,395 --> 00:41:26,962 - Detroit's an industrial giant. 1044 00:41:27,049 --> 00:41:28,703 - I mean, it's changed over the decades. 1045 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,618 - Largest automobile plant in the world. 1046 00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:32,794 - Detroit was a thriving city in the '70s. 1047 00:41:32,881 --> 00:41:35,536 Chevrolet, Ford, and Chrysler manufacturing cars, 1048 00:41:35,623 --> 00:41:37,755 and we also had Motown Records. 1049 00:41:37,842 --> 00:41:41,237 And music and cars became our heartbeat. 1050 00:41:41,324 --> 00:41:43,718 - Detroit leads the nation in violent crime. 1051 00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:45,546 - It started to change in the '80s 1052 00:41:45,633 --> 00:41:48,549 as the crack epidemic hit, and it went on the decline. 1053 00:41:48,636 --> 00:41:50,681 - It's a diamond in the rough. 1054 00:41:50,768 --> 00:41:52,814 It's just really, really rough. 1055 00:41:52,901 --> 00:41:55,773 And I think Dilla applied that hustle and smarts 1056 00:41:55,860 --> 00:41:57,340 to music. 1057 00:41:57,427 --> 00:41:59,908 I don't know. 1058 00:41:59,995 --> 00:42:01,910 I wonder how he would feel to see this-- 1059 00:42:01,997 --> 00:42:03,868 to know that, you know, at some point, 1060 00:42:03,955 --> 00:42:05,304 people in your city kind of caught up to it. 1061 00:42:05,391 --> 00:42:07,176 - Right, right. 1062 00:42:07,263 --> 00:42:08,830 - You know what I'm saying? - Right, right, right. 1063 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:10,440 That's so huge, man. 1064 00:42:10,527 --> 00:42:12,137 [indistinct chatter] 1065 00:42:12,224 --> 00:42:14,575 - Let's see if y'all know what's going on here? 1066 00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:16,577 - I want to take y'all to the East Side of Detroit 1067 00:42:16,664 --> 00:42:18,579 real quick. 1068 00:42:18,666 --> 00:42:22,670 - I'm talking Detroit history musically was this place 1069 00:42:22,757 --> 00:42:25,107 right here, Pershing High. 1070 00:42:25,194 --> 00:42:27,544 I started here as a freshman, and then Dilla didn't come 1071 00:42:27,631 --> 00:42:29,415 here until his senior year. 1072 00:42:29,502 --> 00:42:32,462 - ♪ And I'ma play this game for you ♪ 1073 00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,638 - So we had this thing we used to do 1074 00:42:34,725 --> 00:42:35,944 called "shake it up" 1075 00:42:36,031 --> 00:42:37,598 after school right here with the crew. 1076 00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:39,382 We was known as the hip-hop kids, man. 1077 00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:42,646 And, like, when we was doing it, hip-hop wasn't cool to do. 1078 00:42:42,733 --> 00:42:45,910 - ♪ To be smacked open-handedly by these ♪ 1079 00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:48,043 - We used to make music at... [speaks indistinctly] 1080 00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:50,262 Which is, like, a couple of blocks that way. 1081 00:42:50,349 --> 00:42:51,786 You know, that was, like, our first real studio 1082 00:42:51,873 --> 00:42:53,178 to work at and do things. 1083 00:42:53,265 --> 00:42:57,400 [electronic tones] 1084 00:42:57,487 --> 00:42:59,837 - I think that Dilla created a whole genre 1085 00:42:59,924 --> 00:43:04,189 for soul music and hip-hop that could have its own category. 1086 00:43:04,276 --> 00:43:07,236 Nobody else created beats like that, you know, 1087 00:43:07,323 --> 00:43:10,369 that felt that way. 1088 00:43:10,456 --> 00:43:14,896 Years ago--it must have been late '80s or '90s, 1089 00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:16,680 I was smoking a joint in front of the house, 1090 00:43:16,767 --> 00:43:18,421 and so he said, yo, man, I hear that music 1091 00:43:18,508 --> 00:43:20,162 coming out of the house. 1092 00:43:20,249 --> 00:43:21,337 You got equipment down there? You making music? 1093 00:43:21,424 --> 00:43:23,034 I said, yep, I do. 1094 00:43:23,121 --> 00:43:25,820 He brought the music that he had been creating 1095 00:43:25,907 --> 00:43:28,736 from beat matching with cassettes, 1096 00:43:28,823 --> 00:43:31,652 and that's how it all started. 1097 00:43:31,739 --> 00:43:35,873 At that point, I taught him how to use the MPC. 1098 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,788 It was watching a light bulb go off. 1099 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:39,572 It was, like, a dream come true 1100 00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:41,531 to finally be able to manipulate music like this 1101 00:43:41,618 --> 00:43:42,706 and put it together so fast. 1102 00:43:45,753 --> 00:43:48,843 So then he left stuff like this that I have in the machine. 1103 00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:53,064 That's cool--that I'll still have. 1104 00:43:53,151 --> 00:43:56,024 [hip-hop music plays] 1105 00:43:56,111 --> 00:44:02,726 ♪ ♪ 1106 00:44:07,252 --> 00:44:08,514 Crazy. 1107 00:44:08,601 --> 00:44:10,212 So there's probably 1108 00:44:10,299 --> 00:44:12,127 about six other keyboard sounds like that, 1109 00:44:12,214 --> 00:44:15,043 where he played the chords with just one note. 1110 00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:17,567 That showed you how great his ear was... 1111 00:44:17,654 --> 00:44:21,179 [notes playing] 1112 00:44:21,266 --> 00:44:23,704 Just the fact that all these keyboard songs-- 1113 00:44:23,791 --> 00:44:25,706 that just one chord-- 1114 00:44:25,793 --> 00:44:27,708 he sampled it, and then played it on the pad. 1115 00:44:27,795 --> 00:44:30,667 Nobody else was doing that. 1116 00:44:30,754 --> 00:44:33,278 How many songs you got done already? 1117 00:44:33,365 --> 00:44:35,454 - Probably about 12, 13. - Okay, that's good. 1118 00:44:35,541 --> 00:44:37,674 - I would love to play a track or two for you, man... 1119 00:44:37,761 --> 00:44:39,241 - Yeah, I'd love to hear it. - If it's cool. 1120 00:44:39,328 --> 00:44:40,285 You know what I'm saying? - Yeah, please. 1121 00:44:40,372 --> 00:44:41,939 [hip-hop music plays] 1122 00:44:42,026 --> 00:44:43,419 - ♪ Everything that glitters... ♪ 1123 00:44:43,506 --> 00:44:44,986 - Whoo, that shit is cold. 1124 00:44:45,073 --> 00:44:47,162 - ♪ Be careful what you ask for to cash in ♪ 1125 00:44:47,249 --> 00:44:49,294 ♪ Said, I'm a ride or die, baby, mob me ♪ 1126 00:44:49,381 --> 00:44:56,040 ♪ ♪ 1127 00:44:56,127 --> 00:44:57,738 - Wow. 1128 00:44:57,825 --> 00:44:59,391 That's the shit. You're on a roll right now. 1129 00:44:59,478 --> 00:45:02,133 You need to keep-- you need to stay on that hill. 1130 00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:04,919 - [chuckles] 1131 00:45:05,006 --> 00:45:07,138 - A lot of music that's still out here, 1132 00:45:07,225 --> 00:45:10,315 you know, and she could have chose anybody. 1133 00:45:10,402 --> 00:45:12,622 She got to keep the bar up here. 1134 00:45:12,709 --> 00:45:14,798 [soft music] 1135 00:45:14,885 --> 00:45:18,889 - The spot--the old street here. 1136 00:45:18,976 --> 00:45:21,979 We never used this front door-- always the back door. 1137 00:45:22,066 --> 00:45:24,503 Come by the stoop. Come by the house. 1138 00:45:24,590 --> 00:45:26,418 Come to Nevada. 1139 00:45:26,505 --> 00:45:29,073 I was in this house as a 12-, 13-year-old kid 1140 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,466 running around. 1141 00:45:30,553 --> 00:45:32,207 Like, Ma upstairs cooking-- 1142 00:45:32,294 --> 00:45:34,557 for real, like, making pies and snacks, 1143 00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:37,342 while we trying to make... make music-- 1144 00:45:37,429 --> 00:45:39,823 or do something we dream of, you know what I'm saying? 1145 00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:41,607 Like, make a dream come true. 1146 00:45:41,694 --> 00:45:45,524 - Dilla Studios--don't nobody get this motherfucker. 1147 00:45:45,611 --> 00:45:47,091 - Frank is in it deep. 1148 00:45:47,178 --> 00:45:48,571 It was just automatic to work with him. 1149 00:45:48,658 --> 00:45:50,094 Know what I'm saying? That's family. 1150 00:45:50,181 --> 00:45:51,661 - You have outdone your cousin today. 1151 00:45:51,748 --> 00:45:53,576 - James Dewitt Yancey as a person-- 1152 00:45:53,663 --> 00:45:56,100 extremely smart, bullheaded. 1153 00:45:56,187 --> 00:45:58,102 He want to do what he want to do. 1154 00:45:58,189 --> 00:45:59,321 - You got something to say for the camera? 1155 00:45:59,408 --> 00:46:00,670 - Funny--a lot of people don't know. 1156 00:46:00,757 --> 00:46:02,628 - You motherfuckers... 1157 00:46:02,715 --> 00:46:04,630 - The first thing I learned about DJing was from him. 1158 00:46:04,717 --> 00:46:06,154 Like, he showed me how to scratch. 1159 00:46:06,241 --> 00:46:08,504 After school, we walked-- 1160 00:46:08,591 --> 00:46:11,463 Oh, come over to the crib. I want to show you this. 1161 00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:14,205 - Talk about J Dilla's basement is--we walk in. 1162 00:46:14,292 --> 00:46:17,469 His records all over the walls. 1163 00:46:17,556 --> 00:46:21,560 - That's how I got to know him--sitting in the basement 1164 00:46:21,647 --> 00:46:23,693 with the tiles. 1165 00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:25,651 - Got the couch where I was laid out. 1166 00:46:25,738 --> 00:46:27,610 Mother cooking for me upstairs. 1167 00:46:27,697 --> 00:46:30,047 He's like, use my records. I don't care what you use. 1168 00:46:30,134 --> 00:46:32,354 Pete Rock is in my house, man, making beats. 1169 00:46:32,441 --> 00:46:33,877 It's like two giants-- 1170 00:46:33,964 --> 00:46:35,531 the Hulk and The Thing just chilling out, 1171 00:46:35,618 --> 00:46:37,359 teaching each other. 1172 00:46:37,446 --> 00:46:40,318 And we became real fast, talking to each other like-- 1173 00:46:40,405 --> 00:46:41,842 you know? 1174 00:46:41,929 --> 00:46:43,321 - I mean, I got all that shit. - Right. 1175 00:46:43,408 --> 00:46:45,541 - I had that shit. I just wanted to get some-- 1176 00:46:45,628 --> 00:46:47,848 - He has this process, a way of hooking up drums, 1177 00:46:47,935 --> 00:46:49,588 making the drums sound like they sound. 1178 00:46:49,675 --> 00:46:52,330 - That's it. He plays the record, or he hears something. 1179 00:46:52,417 --> 00:46:54,376 Oh. 1180 00:46:54,463 --> 00:46:55,725 Puts it in the machine. 1181 00:46:55,812 --> 00:46:57,466 Hears something else--oh. 1182 00:46:57,553 --> 00:46:58,902 - I'm watching all these things, and I'm like, 1183 00:46:58,989 --> 00:47:00,512 this is alchemy. 1184 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,428 This is fucking science what's going on right here. 1185 00:47:03,515 --> 00:47:06,954 - That's what makes it special, as well as all the music 1186 00:47:07,041 --> 00:47:09,957 and all the stars and celebrities 1187 00:47:10,044 --> 00:47:12,263 that pulled up in our hood to come get that work. 1188 00:47:12,350 --> 00:47:14,135 You know what I mean? 1189 00:47:14,222 --> 00:47:15,440 - They all came down to the D. - They came to the D. 1190 00:47:15,527 --> 00:47:17,181 - They all came to the D. That's what I'm saying. 1191 00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:18,226 I'm still a fan of this hip-hop shit. 1192 00:47:18,313 --> 00:47:19,836 You know what I'm saying? 1193 00:47:19,923 --> 00:47:21,882 Shit like that--it's still part of the dream. 1194 00:47:21,969 --> 00:47:24,667 It's still part of the-- I can't believe it. 1195 00:47:24,754 --> 00:47:26,887 - ♪ Putting it on the map for the D ♪ 1196 00:47:26,974 --> 00:47:29,933 - Yo. DJ Dez. 1197 00:47:30,020 --> 00:47:31,587 [cheers and applause] 1198 00:47:31,674 --> 00:47:33,806 - I feel like I represent something special, man. 1199 00:47:33,894 --> 00:47:35,634 I'm proud of the era. 1200 00:47:35,721 --> 00:47:39,725 I'm proud of the cast that I came in with-- 1201 00:47:39,812 --> 00:47:41,249 a lot of history. 1202 00:47:41,336 --> 00:47:43,164 - Finally, that's word. 1203 00:47:43,251 --> 00:47:44,817 First of all, how did you meet Dilla? 1204 00:47:44,905 --> 00:47:47,342 - We met at Amp's house. 1205 00:47:47,429 --> 00:47:50,040 You just feel like you at the right place-- 1206 00:47:50,127 --> 00:47:52,869 you know what I'm saying-- or right moment. 1207 00:47:52,956 --> 00:47:56,133 You know when you in the midst of somebody that's special. 1208 00:47:58,005 --> 00:48:01,225 I felt like we was going to take over the world. 1209 00:48:01,312 --> 00:48:03,184 I felt like that was my partner. 1210 00:48:03,271 --> 00:48:06,056 We was aliens, and we was going to take over the world. 1211 00:48:06,143 --> 00:48:07,797 - Right, right, right, right. 1212 00:48:07,884 --> 00:48:11,148 I get it, because since I kind of started this project 1213 00:48:11,235 --> 00:48:13,194 and announced that I'm doing this project, 1214 00:48:13,281 --> 00:48:16,501 the energy around it kind of goes throughout 1215 00:48:16,588 --> 00:48:19,765 my entire sphere of awareness. 1216 00:48:19,852 --> 00:48:21,506 You know what I'm saying? 1217 00:48:21,593 --> 00:48:23,204 Like, everything around me became kind of charged. 1218 00:48:23,291 --> 00:48:24,596 You know what I'm saying? 1219 00:48:24,683 --> 00:48:25,771 - It's special. - Yeah, yeah. 1220 00:48:25,858 --> 00:48:27,208 - It's a special dynamic. 1221 00:48:27,295 --> 00:48:29,514 - Yeah, it is a very special dynamic. 1222 00:48:36,478 --> 00:48:38,436 - Hmm. 1223 00:48:38,523 --> 00:48:41,352 [clicks tongue] 1224 00:48:41,439 --> 00:48:43,528 Keep the passion, man. 1225 00:48:43,615 --> 00:48:45,313 You might run into an obstacle. 1226 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,969 [serious music] 1227 00:48:49,056 --> 00:48:52,885 Just keep the passion, because... 1228 00:48:52,973 --> 00:48:55,105 you know, this past can get tricky. 1229 00:48:55,192 --> 00:48:57,760 ♪ ♪ 1230 00:48:57,847 --> 00:49:01,416 And it's just... - Right. 1231 00:49:01,503 --> 00:49:03,200 - [sighs] 1232 00:49:03,287 --> 00:49:06,029 ♪ ♪ 1233 00:49:06,116 --> 00:49:08,727 Things become way more complicated after you gone. 1234 00:49:08,814 --> 00:49:13,036 ♪ ♪ 1235 00:49:13,123 --> 00:49:16,518 - He came back from tour 2000-- 1236 00:49:16,605 --> 00:49:18,694 from UK. 1237 00:49:18,781 --> 00:49:20,565 He just wasn't feeling good. 1238 00:49:20,652 --> 00:49:23,220 So, during his hospital stay that we thought 1239 00:49:23,307 --> 00:49:25,222 was going to be just for observation, 1240 00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:27,007 it ends up being a couple months because he has 1241 00:49:27,094 --> 00:49:29,574 to have dialysis, you know? 1242 00:49:29,661 --> 00:49:33,970 And he had lupus, which was a very rare blood disease. 1243 00:49:34,057 --> 00:49:38,061 And I think they said it was one in... 1244 00:49:38,148 --> 00:49:41,021 10,000,000. 1245 00:49:41,108 --> 00:49:43,675 - J Dilla was like my roommate out here. 1246 00:49:43,762 --> 00:49:45,634 So I would go home every day, and he 1247 00:49:45,721 --> 00:49:48,898 would be working on his MPC, making beats, creating magic. 1248 00:49:48,985 --> 00:49:50,769 And then eventually he got sick, 1249 00:49:50,856 --> 00:49:52,641 I'd watch him, you know, physically deteriorating. 1250 00:49:52,728 --> 00:49:56,645 [crowd chanting] 1251 00:49:56,732 --> 00:49:58,342 - The first time I seen him in a wheelchair 1252 00:49:58,429 --> 00:49:59,822 was when he rolled off the plane. 1253 00:49:59,909 --> 00:50:01,606 - It was basically his last tour. 1254 00:50:01,693 --> 00:50:05,567 - What up, doe? [cheering] 1255 00:50:05,654 --> 00:50:06,872 What up, doe? 1256 00:50:06,959 --> 00:50:09,527 [cheering] Yeah! 1257 00:50:09,614 --> 00:50:12,617 - And I'm not gonna act like there's anything different. 1258 00:50:12,704 --> 00:50:14,837 You know, it's still Dilla. What up, boy? 1259 00:50:14,924 --> 00:50:16,708 You know, it's still that. 1260 00:50:16,795 --> 00:50:19,581 The only thing I did ask him was, yo, we been filming. 1261 00:50:19,668 --> 00:50:23,019 If you don't want to be on camera, tell me now, you know. 1262 00:50:23,106 --> 00:50:25,456 No, film that shit. Film that shit. 1263 00:50:25,543 --> 00:50:28,851 - It's a blessing to be out here right now 1264 00:50:28,938 --> 00:50:31,897 bringing you this celebration-- that's what it is. 1265 00:50:31,984 --> 00:50:34,074 - Retrospect, he knew. 1266 00:50:34,161 --> 00:50:36,163 He knew his time was coming. 1267 00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:38,208 - He even brought his moms to see you all. 1268 00:50:38,295 --> 00:50:41,690 Make some motherfucking noise! [cheering] 1269 00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:45,868 - He didn't take anything that day, but he's hurting, 1270 00:50:45,955 --> 00:50:47,957 I can imagine, all over. 1271 00:50:48,044 --> 00:50:50,090 - It's Ma Dukes, y'all. - Bring Ma Dukes to the stage. 1272 00:50:50,177 --> 00:50:51,613 [cheering] 1273 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:55,007 - That last night before he passed away, 1274 00:50:55,095 --> 00:50:59,403 he's finishing up his last project. 1275 00:50:59,490 --> 00:51:03,407 Now all I got to do is get the bass line, he says. 1276 00:51:03,494 --> 00:51:05,496 - In his hospital bed, you know, 1277 00:51:05,583 --> 00:51:07,411 with his little crate of records, 1278 00:51:07,498 --> 00:51:09,587 little, small little turntable, 1279 00:51:09,674 --> 00:51:12,329 I'm sick, possibly dying. 1280 00:51:14,375 --> 00:51:16,464 Where's my MPC? 1281 00:51:16,551 --> 00:51:19,641 That's a whole other mind state. 1282 00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:21,643 - It was something that I didn't want to accept, 1283 00:51:21,730 --> 00:51:24,776 that he was losing himself. 1284 00:51:24,863 --> 00:51:27,518 ♪ ♪ 1285 00:51:27,605 --> 00:51:31,696 Even as I'm holding him, he just had a breath in my arm. 1286 00:51:31,783 --> 00:51:34,003 But that breath that I felt was his last breath, 1287 00:51:34,090 --> 00:51:35,352 and he died in my arms. 1288 00:51:35,439 --> 00:51:37,789 ♪ ♪ 1289 00:51:37,876 --> 00:51:40,575 I had so much love and so many people supporting me 1290 00:51:40,662 --> 00:51:43,099 around me. 1291 00:51:43,186 --> 00:51:45,493 - Eventually I'll come home, and he's not there no more. 1292 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:48,539 So his spirit is still here, and he's living 1293 00:51:48,626 --> 00:51:50,759 forever through the music. 1294 00:51:50,846 --> 00:51:54,371 - It's just that dedication. 1295 00:51:54,458 --> 00:51:56,417 Everybody can't be on that type of time. 1296 00:51:56,504 --> 00:51:59,942 [cheers and applause] - Thank you all for coming out. 1297 00:52:00,029 --> 00:52:02,640 I love you all, man. 1298 00:52:02,727 --> 00:52:05,643 ♪ ♪ 1299 00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:08,037 - Too young... 1300 00:52:08,124 --> 00:52:09,647 died too young. 1301 00:52:09,734 --> 00:52:15,740 ♪ ♪ 1302 00:52:20,615 --> 00:52:22,965 - When we started coming here, he was digging. 1303 00:52:23,052 --> 00:52:25,272 Now, they got memorabilia, T-shirts, all that, but... 1304 00:52:27,143 --> 00:52:28,840 It is ice cold. 1305 00:52:28,927 --> 00:52:30,190 Shit. 1306 00:52:32,583 --> 00:52:35,282 I've been here so many times. You have no idea. 1307 00:52:35,369 --> 00:52:36,935 Even after I had records, we still would come in here, 1308 00:52:37,022 --> 00:52:38,241 and he would dig. 1309 00:52:38,328 --> 00:52:40,025 And we had, you know, singles out. 1310 00:52:40,112 --> 00:52:42,985 Our singles would be here on the wall. 1311 00:52:43,072 --> 00:52:45,030 - There go Dilla's signature right there. 1312 00:52:45,117 --> 00:52:46,902 - All right. - Yep. 1313 00:52:46,989 --> 00:52:49,121 - "Jay Dee, Slum Village." 1314 00:52:49,209 --> 00:52:52,342 And then if we go all the way down over here, 1315 00:52:52,429 --> 00:52:54,214 you'll find your boy Nitty... 1316 00:52:54,301 --> 00:52:55,693 - All right. - Right there. 1317 00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:57,260 - That's what's up. 1318 00:52:57,347 --> 00:52:58,914 - You want to go above Quest? - Okay, sounds good. 1319 00:52:59,001 --> 00:53:00,220 - That good? - Yeah. 1320 00:53:03,353 --> 00:53:05,094 All right. - Thank you. 1321 00:53:05,181 --> 00:53:07,227 - I feel honored. [chuckles] 1322 00:53:07,314 --> 00:53:08,576 - You know what's a good example? 1323 00:53:08,663 --> 00:53:10,142 Check with--what is it-- 1324 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:12,667 "Why I Got To Be Like That," Pharcyde, okay? 1325 00:53:12,754 --> 00:53:16,453 And then listen to "Do For Love" by Tupac. 1326 00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:20,152 - J, he took record digging to a whole nother level. 1327 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:25,201 I mean, he would come in, literally sit down, 1328 00:53:25,288 --> 00:53:27,943 grab the most obscure jazz album 1329 00:53:28,030 --> 00:53:30,424 that you could actually think of, 1330 00:53:30,511 --> 00:53:33,601 and he would play X amount of songs. 1331 00:53:33,688 --> 00:53:38,083 His knowledge was just a joy to behold. 1332 00:53:38,170 --> 00:53:39,911 - The last three years, all production, 1333 00:53:39,998 --> 00:53:41,652 just trying to get my name out. 1334 00:53:41,739 --> 00:53:43,611 I still consider myself underground, very underground. 1335 00:53:43,698 --> 00:53:47,267 I want to get across there and still do what I do. 1336 00:53:47,354 --> 00:53:50,357 - You know, and Detroit is the type of city 1337 00:53:50,444 --> 00:53:54,186 where, if you don't come correct, 1338 00:53:54,274 --> 00:53:56,145 you will be called out for it. 1339 00:53:56,232 --> 00:53:58,800 I mean, talk about no-fly zone. 1340 00:53:58,887 --> 00:54:00,236 Krrrr! 1341 00:54:00,323 --> 00:54:01,803 That's how bad it is. 1342 00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:04,153 You know, don't let the smooth taste fool you. 1343 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:05,850 We handle our own around here. 1344 00:54:05,937 --> 00:54:07,678 But we also praise... 1345 00:54:07,765 --> 00:54:09,027 - When it's done correctly? 1346 00:54:09,114 --> 00:54:11,247 - When it's done correct, yes. 1347 00:54:11,334 --> 00:54:12,988 Oh, most definitely. 1348 00:54:13,075 --> 00:54:15,382 - Excellent, because that's what this is all about. 1349 00:54:15,469 --> 00:54:17,035 This is all about doing it correctly. 1350 00:54:17,122 --> 00:54:21,257 ♪ ♪ 1351 00:54:21,344 --> 00:54:24,782 It has a weirdness to it. 1352 00:54:24,869 --> 00:54:27,481 I could definitely sense, you know, 1353 00:54:27,568 --> 00:54:30,701 the territorial aspect of people's 1354 00:54:30,788 --> 00:54:33,138 relationships with Dilla-- that I didn't have this. 1355 00:54:33,225 --> 00:54:34,401 You know, I wasn't in the room. 1356 00:54:34,488 --> 00:54:36,316 I wasn't there. You know, I get it. 1357 00:54:36,403 --> 00:54:38,796 I would be a little territorial as well probably. 1358 00:54:38,883 --> 00:54:40,842 [cell phone chimes] 1359 00:54:40,929 --> 00:54:42,278 - Yo... 1360 00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:48,458 - Oh, wow. 1361 00:54:48,545 --> 00:54:50,634 Man. 1362 00:54:50,721 --> 00:54:53,594 That's kind of the energy that-- 1363 00:54:53,681 --> 00:54:55,596 you know, like, the energy that exists around this 1364 00:54:55,683 --> 00:54:59,339 is very elusive. 1365 00:54:59,426 --> 00:55:01,297 Yeah. 1366 00:55:01,384 --> 00:55:05,127 Ask her, you know, if I may, what happened? 1367 00:55:17,922 --> 00:55:20,664 Even if she don't do it, whoever she talking to, 1368 00:55:20,751 --> 00:55:23,363 she should be armed with the truth about the situation. 1369 00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:25,016 They don't know if I'm a piece of shit trying to take 1370 00:55:25,103 --> 00:55:26,278 advantage of a situation. 1371 00:55:26,366 --> 00:55:27,845 Why should I trust you? 1372 00:55:27,932 --> 00:55:29,412 So whatever the fuck they saying... 1373 00:55:29,499 --> 00:55:32,894 Yeah, and I'm definitely trying not to... 1374 00:55:32,981 --> 00:55:36,114 take anything personal. 1375 00:55:36,201 --> 00:55:38,421 It's not even a "fuck you" thing. 1376 00:55:40,858 --> 00:55:44,296 It's a "what the fuck are you doing?" thing. 1377 00:55:46,690 --> 00:55:49,693 ♪ ♪ 1378 00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:53,175 [line trilling] 1379 00:55:57,788 --> 00:55:59,703 - Hey, Dres. 1380 00:55:59,790 --> 00:56:01,662 - What's going on? 1381 00:56:01,749 --> 00:56:04,882 - So I just got off the phone with Toney and Ma's attorney. 1382 00:56:04,969 --> 00:56:06,318 - Oh, yeah? 1383 00:56:06,406 --> 00:56:07,972 - And there seems to be a little bit 1384 00:56:08,059 --> 00:56:10,932 of hesitancy on their part about this project, 1385 00:56:11,019 --> 00:56:13,325 in general. 1386 00:56:13,413 --> 00:56:16,416 - This is coming from-- 1387 00:56:16,503 --> 00:56:18,592 it's coming from left field. 1388 00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:20,768 - I'm sorry. - This is news to me. 1389 00:56:20,855 --> 00:56:22,770 - Yeah, do you have anything signed 1390 00:56:22,857 --> 00:56:24,728 with them at this point? 1391 00:56:24,815 --> 00:56:27,470 - Remember when we were first putting this together? 1392 00:56:27,557 --> 00:56:28,993 - Yeah. - You told me-- 1393 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,474 let's clarify everything going on with the music. 1394 00:56:31,561 --> 00:56:35,652 But the music--it was done on the goodwill 1395 00:56:35,739 --> 00:56:37,698 of me, Toney, and Ma. - Okay. 1396 00:56:37,785 --> 00:56:40,440 - I've been moving forward and speaking like-- 1397 00:56:40,527 --> 00:56:44,705 like I had Ma's blessings-- that they allowed me to do 1398 00:56:44,792 --> 00:56:46,054 this from the very beginning. 1399 00:56:46,141 --> 00:56:48,230 - Yeah, look, Dres, if I'm understanding correctly, 1400 00:56:48,317 --> 00:56:50,928 you haven't had a chance to paper up a deal yet 1401 00:56:51,015 --> 00:56:52,452 for the album itself, right? 1402 00:56:52,539 --> 00:56:55,150 - I'm the only one that's spent money in the creation 1403 00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:56,194 of this project. 1404 00:56:56,281 --> 00:56:58,240 No one else has. 1405 00:56:58,327 --> 00:57:00,155 I've spent thousands upon thousands of dollars 1406 00:57:00,242 --> 00:57:03,288 creating this, getting all kinds of features. 1407 00:57:03,375 --> 00:57:07,379 And I was under the assumption that, in good faith, 1408 00:57:07,467 --> 00:57:09,033 they're my partners. 1409 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,818 They represent Dilla's interests. 1410 00:57:10,905 --> 00:57:13,342 J Dilla is the producer, and I'm the MC. 1411 00:57:13,429 --> 00:57:15,300 - I got--that makes total sense. 1412 00:57:15,387 --> 00:57:18,260 I know a lot of things get lost in translation sometimes. 1413 00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,872 - I think Toney might have maybe misconstrued-- 1414 00:57:21,959 --> 00:57:24,571 Like, I even asked her on film, you know, 1415 00:57:24,658 --> 00:57:27,312 why did she give me permission to do this? 1416 00:57:27,399 --> 00:57:30,228 And the answer, you know, was heartwarming. 1417 00:57:30,315 --> 00:57:32,274 I don't understand where this is coming from. 1418 00:57:32,361 --> 00:57:35,495 - Look, I'm not sure if this is a game or a tactic, 1419 00:57:35,582 --> 00:57:37,497 but I'm just doing my best 1420 00:57:37,584 --> 00:57:39,194 to kind of alleviate their concerns. 1421 00:57:39,281 --> 00:57:42,850 So the sooner we get something in writing that outlines 1422 00:57:42,937 --> 00:57:45,243 exactly what this relationship is 1423 00:57:45,330 --> 00:57:46,941 and exactly what you guys are doing, the better. 1424 00:57:47,028 --> 00:57:48,508 - Well, let's put it under contract. 1425 00:57:48,595 --> 00:57:50,031 I hope we can figure this out. 1426 00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:53,034 I don't know where they went off track. 1427 00:57:53,121 --> 00:57:57,255 I literally look at them like an extension of my family 1428 00:57:57,342 --> 00:57:58,648 at this point. 1429 00:57:58,735 --> 00:58:00,476 But... - [sighs] 1430 00:58:00,563 --> 00:58:02,609 It sounds like you really need to talk to a lawyer. 1431 00:58:02,696 --> 00:58:03,740 - Yeah. 1432 00:58:03,827 --> 00:58:05,307 I appreciate it. 1433 00:58:13,184 --> 00:58:15,665 ♪ ♪ 1434 00:58:35,555 --> 00:58:37,774 - What's really fascinating in the music industry 1435 00:58:37,861 --> 00:58:42,562 is most artists have this optimistic view of things. 1436 00:58:42,649 --> 00:58:44,694 They go into the studio. They write together. 1437 00:58:44,781 --> 00:58:46,000 They hang out. 1438 00:58:46,087 --> 00:58:47,697 - As y'all pass this, y'all are going 1439 00:58:47,784 --> 00:58:48,959 to notice that he looks like he's about 1440 00:58:49,046 --> 00:58:50,787 to spit a serious rhyme. 1441 00:58:50,874 --> 00:58:53,703 - That because they work so well with each other 1442 00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:56,445 that the contractual nature of it will just all work out. 1443 00:58:56,532 --> 00:58:58,969 They just do and create. 1444 00:58:59,056 --> 00:59:02,059 It's a very nice way to view the world. 1445 00:59:02,146 --> 00:59:04,845 Unfortunately... 1446 00:59:04,932 --> 00:59:07,717 that's why you need me, 1447 00:59:07,804 --> 00:59:09,937 because that's not what the world is about. 1448 00:59:10,024 --> 00:59:12,069 Here, just sit on this chair. Just sit over here. 1449 00:59:12,156 --> 00:59:14,115 Here, let me grab your bag. - Oh, thanks. 1450 00:59:14,202 --> 00:59:17,945 - In this specific case, which is Dres, the organic nature 1451 00:59:18,032 --> 00:59:20,687 of the way this came about, which is him just happening 1452 00:59:20,774 --> 00:59:23,385 to be at a show and happened to be invited 1453 00:59:23,472 --> 00:59:26,736 by Ma to her house and happened to talk to Toney, 1454 00:59:26,823 --> 00:59:30,174 who happened to give him material, 1455 00:59:30,261 --> 00:59:33,177 his first step wasn't, like, hey, lawyer. 1456 00:59:33,264 --> 00:59:36,180 Go call Ma Dukes' lawyer and get a contract. 1457 00:59:36,267 --> 00:59:38,922 It's just not the way people think. 1458 00:59:39,009 --> 00:59:42,578 All right, so... 1459 00:59:42,665 --> 00:59:45,929 I'm not sure if-- do you know I met with-- 1460 00:59:46,016 --> 00:59:47,627 with Ma Dukes and Toney-- 1461 00:59:47,714 --> 00:59:49,629 - Okay. - On Thursday? 1462 00:59:49,716 --> 00:59:51,065 - Yeah. How'd that go? 1463 00:59:51,152 --> 00:59:53,807 - It's my understanding that Ma Dukes, 1464 00:59:53,894 --> 00:59:57,419 through Toney's music publishing company, 1465 00:59:57,506 --> 00:59:58,986 controls the rights to the music... 1466 00:59:59,073 --> 01:00:00,465 at this point. 1467 01:00:00,552 --> 01:00:04,382 Their concern, I think, is, you know, natural 1468 01:00:04,469 --> 01:00:06,167 because there's so much product out 1469 01:00:06,254 --> 01:00:08,169 in the marketplace right now, J Dilla product, 1470 01:00:08,256 --> 01:00:10,040 that's unauthorized. - Right. 1471 01:00:10,127 --> 01:00:12,695 - That's one of the hesitancies of them. 1472 01:00:12,782 --> 01:00:15,089 If you look on YouTube or on Instagram 1473 01:00:15,176 --> 01:00:18,048 or even Spotify and Apple, 1474 01:00:18,135 --> 01:00:20,137 you see unauthorized Dilla tracks. 1475 01:00:20,224 --> 01:00:21,965 - Definitely. 1476 01:00:22,052 --> 01:00:24,098 - Their hesitancy and uncomfortableness 1477 01:00:24,185 --> 01:00:26,927 is you were going off and doing your thing, 1478 01:00:27,014 --> 01:00:29,190 and you were getting features, and you 1479 01:00:29,277 --> 01:00:30,713 were making the tracks work. 1480 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,107 And they didn't have a real understanding 1481 01:00:33,194 --> 01:00:35,762 of what was going on with their son's music. 1482 01:00:35,849 --> 01:00:37,589 - I paid for all of these sessions 1483 01:00:37,677 --> 01:00:39,026 and told you all about every single-- 1484 01:00:39,113 --> 01:00:40,549 you know, like, every step. 1485 01:00:40,636 --> 01:00:42,464 - This is why having contracts with them 1486 01:00:42,551 --> 01:00:44,640 is so important to them 1487 01:00:44,727 --> 01:00:47,469 and, obviously, so important to you. 1488 01:00:47,556 --> 01:00:50,080 One of the other problems is the estate. 1489 01:00:50,167 --> 01:00:51,995 It's a bit messy. 1490 01:00:52,082 --> 01:00:56,304 In addition to Ma, there are other parties that are vying 1491 01:00:56,391 --> 01:00:58,088 for control of the music. 1492 01:00:58,175 --> 01:01:01,309 And it's one of the things we just have to clean up, 1493 01:01:01,396 --> 01:01:03,746 which is, I think, you know, one of the reasons 1494 01:01:03,833 --> 01:01:06,053 that you should just take a step back for a moment 1495 01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:08,882 so we can, you know, get some clarity on that. 1496 01:01:08,969 --> 01:01:10,231 - All right. - Don't focus on it. 1497 01:01:10,318 --> 01:01:13,495 Don't do any recording. Don't talk about it. 1498 01:01:13,582 --> 01:01:17,673 Go and do Dres, tour, produce. You know, do your thing. 1499 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,806 - I've taken it as far as, in my heart, 1500 01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:22,722 like, I'm looking at them as Dilla 1501 01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:25,072 and that me and Dilla are a duo. 1502 01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:29,990 What she's affording me is the platform... 1503 01:01:30,077 --> 01:01:32,035 - Right. - For the world to see 1504 01:01:32,122 --> 01:01:34,298 exactly what I have to say today. 1505 01:01:34,385 --> 01:01:36,213 - No, I-- - And that's all I need. 1506 01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:38,172 That's all I need. 1507 01:01:38,259 --> 01:01:40,043 - You know, there's no paperwork. 1508 01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:42,567 So let us focus on Dilla, 1509 01:01:42,654 --> 01:01:45,353 because if we can't make this deal, 1510 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,530 then these tracks will never see the light of day. 1511 01:01:48,617 --> 01:01:52,447 All of our time and your money is going to go to waste. 1512 01:01:52,534 --> 01:01:56,538 Let us work on this so we can get this deal done. 1513 01:01:56,625 --> 01:01:57,887 - All right. 1514 01:01:59,323 --> 01:02:01,630 ♪ ♪ 1515 01:02:01,717 --> 01:02:04,502 I've been the same artist I've been my entire career, 1516 01:02:04,589 --> 01:02:07,418 but the music industry can definitely make 1517 01:02:07,505 --> 01:02:10,073 anyone uneasy. 1518 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,727 Is this right? Is this correct? 1519 01:02:11,814 --> 01:02:14,295 Is anything going to fall on me? 1520 01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:17,864 And as much as "The Choice Is Yours" puts me 1521 01:02:17,951 --> 01:02:19,909 in a lot of rooms and things thereof, 1522 01:02:19,996 --> 01:02:22,738 it doesn't afford me what this project is about to afford me. 1523 01:02:25,262 --> 01:02:27,569 From here off, I think is taking 1524 01:02:27,656 --> 01:02:31,268 some of my eggs out of this basket and this project. 1525 01:02:31,355 --> 01:02:33,923 ♪ ♪ 1526 01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:36,665 - There's hundreds of thousands of examples 1527 01:02:36,752 --> 01:02:39,189 of records that have been made that will never, 1528 01:02:39,276 --> 01:02:40,756 ever see the light of day. 1529 01:02:40,843 --> 01:02:43,890 It's called shelving. 1530 01:02:43,977 --> 01:02:47,415 You know, the question is, will this Dres and Dilla album 1531 01:02:47,502 --> 01:02:49,591 be one of them? 1532 01:02:54,509 --> 01:02:58,295 [person humming] 1533 01:02:58,382 --> 01:03:00,123 - How'd you sleep? 1534 01:03:00,210 --> 01:03:02,125 - Oh, slept well. - Yeah? 1535 01:03:02,212 --> 01:03:02,952 Good. 1536 01:03:06,477 --> 01:03:08,218 I told you I've got to go to Milwaukee today, right? 1537 01:03:08,305 --> 01:03:10,960 - Yep. 1538 01:03:11,047 --> 01:03:12,832 - Did I tell you what I was doing? 1539 01:03:12,919 --> 01:03:15,573 I told you I was doing a day party for Adidas-- 1540 01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:17,271 the sneaker company? 1541 01:03:17,358 --> 01:03:20,274 - Yeah, I know what that is. - Okay, cool. 1542 01:03:20,361 --> 01:03:22,754 I definitely would like to think that there's 1543 01:03:22,842 --> 01:03:25,322 something inside of me that-- 1544 01:03:25,409 --> 01:03:27,629 that shines inside of Sid. 1545 01:03:27,716 --> 01:03:29,892 Hey, Sidney. Hi. 1546 01:03:29,979 --> 01:03:31,502 - Say, "Happy Father's Day." - [babbles] 1547 01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:33,374 - That's my boy. 1548 01:03:33,461 --> 01:03:34,941 - Who is that? 1549 01:03:35,028 --> 01:03:37,030 - Who is that with them pearly-white teeth? 1550 01:03:37,117 --> 01:03:38,553 Is that my baby? 1551 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,425 Mwah! Don't be so happy about it. 1552 01:03:41,512 --> 01:03:44,167 Sid has grown up with me in and out. 1553 01:03:44,254 --> 01:03:46,169 Like, you know, it's kind of a running joke in the house. 1554 01:03:46,256 --> 01:03:48,563 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm always leaving. 1555 01:03:48,650 --> 01:03:51,044 - Hi, everybody. 1556 01:03:51,131 --> 01:03:53,089 - Now say, "bye." 1557 01:03:53,176 --> 01:03:55,483 He always sees me traveling, going back and forth... 1558 01:03:55,570 --> 01:03:57,920 Say, "hello." - Hi. 1559 01:03:58,007 --> 01:04:00,488 - Writing, reciting, practicing. 1560 01:04:00,575 --> 01:04:02,185 That's dad's 9:00-to-5:00. 1561 01:04:02,272 --> 01:04:05,232 Dad is unorthodox in the degree that, you know, 1562 01:04:05,319 --> 01:04:08,104 he doesn't see me get up at 7:00 in the morning 1563 01:04:08,191 --> 01:04:10,846 and go to the office and come back, ever. 1564 01:04:10,933 --> 01:04:14,328 But he's always seen me working. 1565 01:04:14,415 --> 01:04:16,243 Did you finish? - Yeah. 1566 01:04:16,330 --> 01:04:19,550 There were 154 questions total on the test, 1567 01:04:19,637 --> 01:04:24,033 and I got through, like, 130. - That's pretty good. 1568 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,081 You know, like I didn't grow up in a nuclear family. 1569 01:04:28,168 --> 01:04:30,692 Be right back, Sid. 1570 01:04:30,779 --> 01:04:34,565 So me learning how to create 1571 01:04:34,652 --> 01:04:37,960 a peaceful home is a process. 1572 01:04:38,047 --> 01:04:39,657 I don't come from it. 1573 01:04:39,744 --> 01:04:43,531 So there's times when I've had to trial-and-error. 1574 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:46,926 That's something that your family 1575 01:04:47,013 --> 01:04:49,189 has to go through with you. 1576 01:04:49,276 --> 01:04:52,148 What planet has a ring? - That's Saturn. 1577 01:04:52,235 --> 01:04:53,715 - Okay, smart boy. 1578 01:04:53,802 --> 01:04:56,152 - I live Saturn, too. 1579 01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:59,416 - You live on Saturn, too? I live on Earth. 1580 01:04:59,503 --> 01:05:01,114 Maybe you take me with you when you get older 1581 01:05:01,201 --> 01:05:04,073 and you go into space? - Okay. 1582 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,467 I just want you to know, I'm a huge fan. 1583 01:05:06,554 --> 01:05:08,556 [laughter] 1584 01:05:08,643 --> 01:05:13,343 - Like all my kids, they're dreamers, without question. 1585 01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:15,824 And that's important. It's important to dream. 1586 01:05:15,911 --> 01:05:17,434 Love you. - Bye. 1587 01:05:17,521 --> 01:05:19,262 - I'll see you later, okay? - Yeah. 1588 01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:20,698 - All right. 1589 01:05:20,785 --> 01:05:21,961 Yeah, call Mom when you're hungry. 1590 01:05:22,048 --> 01:05:24,528 - Yeah. - All right? 1591 01:05:24,615 --> 01:05:27,705 You know, like, that's the shit that ages you-- 1592 01:05:27,792 --> 01:05:30,752 when you stop dreaming. 1593 01:05:30,839 --> 01:05:32,754 But when you're young, 1594 01:05:32,841 --> 01:05:35,496 you might not see where reality and dreams meet. 1595 01:05:35,583 --> 01:05:38,107 [elevator bell dings] 1596 01:05:38,194 --> 01:05:41,284 Yo, how y'all feeling? [cheering] 1597 01:05:41,371 --> 01:05:43,939 Yo, how y'all feeling? [cheering] 1598 01:05:44,026 --> 01:05:45,680 Yo, my name is Dres. 1599 01:05:45,767 --> 01:05:49,118 - I go by the name of the sugar-dick daddy Mista Lawnge. 1600 01:05:49,205 --> 01:05:50,163 - As you get older, that becomes 1601 01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:51,816 a little bit more definitive, 1602 01:05:51,903 --> 01:05:54,602 definitely with your career and relationships. 1603 01:05:54,689 --> 01:05:55,907 Once you become an artist, you have 1604 01:05:55,995 --> 01:05:57,344 a sense of responsibility. 1605 01:05:57,431 --> 01:05:58,432 We have a sense of responsibility 1606 01:05:58,519 --> 01:05:59,868 to all of these people right here-- 1607 01:05:59,955 --> 01:06:00,825 you know, things that we're doing. 1608 01:06:00,912 --> 01:06:02,175 They look at us. 1609 01:06:02,262 --> 01:06:03,306 But at the same time, I really have 1610 01:06:03,393 --> 01:06:05,221 to stress that people are people, 1611 01:06:05,308 --> 01:06:07,354 and people make mistakes, and nobody's perfect. 1612 01:06:07,441 --> 01:06:10,096 Like, me and Lawnge-- anything can happen. 1613 01:06:10,183 --> 01:06:12,620 - What's the name of this group on the stage tonight? 1614 01:06:12,707 --> 01:06:13,577 all: Black Sheep! 1615 01:06:13,664 --> 01:06:15,710 - Say what? 1616 01:06:15,797 --> 01:06:20,323 - You know, sometimes you outgrow relationships. 1617 01:06:20,410 --> 01:06:21,933 - You got Mista Lawnge and Dres in the house. 1618 01:06:22,021 --> 01:06:24,458 - Man, what y'all been doing for two years, man? 1619 01:06:24,545 --> 01:06:27,504 Y'all been on hiatus, man. - Back up off us, man. 1620 01:06:27,591 --> 01:06:28,853 We hear a lot of-- 1621 01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:30,246 well, you want to go ahead and elaborate? 1622 01:06:30,333 --> 01:06:31,813 - Nah, man. 1623 01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:33,162 - Say no more. - We'll be back-- 1624 01:06:33,249 --> 01:06:35,251 We got Black Sheep in the house. 1625 01:06:35,338 --> 01:06:37,036 - I missed me and Lawnge being Black Sheep 1626 01:06:37,123 --> 01:06:39,038 and having the knowledge of each other, 1627 01:06:39,125 --> 01:06:40,778 as well of ourselves. 1628 01:06:40,865 --> 01:06:41,910 We had vision. 1629 01:06:41,997 --> 01:06:43,651 We had concept. 1630 01:06:43,738 --> 01:06:47,089 You know, we were a package before we ever hit wax. 1631 01:06:47,176 --> 01:06:48,743 [indistinct shouting] 1632 01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:52,703 ♪ Yo, who's the black sheep? What's the black sheep? ♪ 1633 01:06:52,790 --> 01:06:55,489 You know, people definitely always affiliated 1634 01:06:55,576 --> 01:06:57,186 "The Choice Is Yours" with me and Lawnge. 1635 01:06:57,273 --> 01:06:58,927 Peace, brother. Pardon me. 1636 01:06:59,014 --> 01:07:00,929 - Black Sheep, right? - No doubt. 1637 01:07:01,016 --> 01:07:03,540 But at this point, people have literally seen me on my own 1638 01:07:03,627 --> 01:07:04,889 for years. 1639 01:07:04,976 --> 01:07:07,544 What up, baby? - How you doing? 1640 01:07:07,631 --> 01:07:10,417 - And with Strike shadowing me, they've 1641 01:07:10,504 --> 01:07:13,420 come to understand that me and Lawnge aren't together. 1642 01:07:13,507 --> 01:07:15,030 So I think, you know, like, they kind of 1643 01:07:15,117 --> 01:07:18,555 put my face to the song today more so than they do Lawnge. 1644 01:07:18,642 --> 01:07:20,079 [tone beeps] 1645 01:07:20,166 --> 01:07:21,689 - Please make sure your seat belt is-- 1646 01:07:21,776 --> 01:07:23,299 - You know, like, people have asked me, like, 1647 01:07:23,386 --> 01:07:25,127 do I ever get tired of performing "Choice Is Yours"? 1648 01:07:25,214 --> 01:07:27,042 Coming on, doing, like, one song and everything, 1649 01:07:27,129 --> 01:07:29,349 and they just pulled me in for that. 1650 01:07:29,436 --> 01:07:32,482 But that's beyond a blessing. 1651 01:07:32,569 --> 01:07:34,832 Life is going to be what it is. 1652 01:07:34,919 --> 01:07:36,443 You know what I'm saying? 1653 01:07:36,530 --> 01:07:38,575 It's not always going to be a sunny day. 1654 01:07:40,751 --> 01:07:42,449 - [shivers] It's cold. 1655 01:07:42,536 --> 01:07:44,277 - Milwaukee is about that action. 1656 01:07:44,364 --> 01:07:45,104 Remember when we was-- where was we at? 1657 01:07:45,191 --> 01:07:47,323 It was Sweden or something. 1658 01:07:47,410 --> 01:07:48,977 It was nice when we went in the club, and we came out-- 1659 01:07:49,064 --> 01:07:50,631 - We came out, it was snowing. - It was snowing. 1660 01:07:50,718 --> 01:07:52,198 - It was like we was in Maine or something. 1661 01:07:52,285 --> 01:07:53,590 - Yo, shit was crazy. 1662 01:07:53,677 --> 01:08:00,249 ♪ ♪ 1663 01:08:00,336 --> 01:08:04,732 [line trilling] 1664 01:08:04,819 --> 01:08:06,342 - Hello? 1665 01:08:06,429 --> 01:08:08,127 - Mr. Dawson. - Yes, sir. 1666 01:08:08,214 --> 01:08:09,519 - Hey, how's it going? This is Dres from Black Sheep. 1667 01:08:09,606 --> 01:08:11,695 I was just trying to find out what 1668 01:08:11,782 --> 01:08:15,960 time you would be arriving to grab us from the hotel. 1669 01:08:17,962 --> 01:08:19,834 - You perform at 6:00, right? 1670 01:08:19,921 --> 01:08:21,662 - 5:20. 1671 01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:22,837 Let's say 4:30. 1672 01:08:22,924 --> 01:08:24,186 - 4:30? - Yeah. 1673 01:08:24,273 --> 01:08:25,666 - Okay. - All right. 1674 01:08:25,753 --> 01:08:26,623 See you then, bro. - All right. 1675 01:08:26,710 --> 01:08:28,799 [cell phone chimes] 1676 01:08:28,886 --> 01:08:29,800 - Okay, cool. 1677 01:08:29,887 --> 01:08:36,764 ♪ ♪ 1678 01:08:56,218 --> 01:08:57,741 I'm not with the bullshit. 1679 01:08:57,828 --> 01:09:01,745 Like, and if there was a issue, why didn't I hear from-- 1680 01:09:01,832 --> 01:09:05,140 Like-- [sputters] 1681 01:09:05,227 --> 01:09:09,623 Yeah. Yeah, like... 1682 01:09:09,710 --> 01:09:11,320 Yeah. 1683 01:09:11,407 --> 01:09:12,887 That doesn't even make sense. 1684 01:09:12,974 --> 01:09:15,106 Like, why are we doing it-- you know what I'm saying-- 1685 01:09:15,194 --> 01:09:16,804 if we're not, you know-- 1686 01:09:16,891 --> 01:09:18,022 Yeah. 1687 01:09:18,109 --> 01:09:21,591 Well, let me just... 1688 01:09:21,678 --> 01:09:23,550 [speaks indistinctly] 1689 01:09:23,637 --> 01:09:26,683 ♪ ♪ 1690 01:09:26,770 --> 01:09:29,033 And that shit is a bluff. Fuck. 1691 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,211 Like, I can't imagine... 1692 01:09:32,298 --> 01:09:34,996 Toney not signing off on this shit. 1693 01:09:35,083 --> 01:09:38,347 As much as he's talking about it... 1694 01:09:38,434 --> 01:09:41,437 I can't imagine it not coming out and it being his fault. 1695 01:09:41,524 --> 01:09:43,787 She said out of her mouth, this is signed off. 1696 01:09:43,874 --> 01:09:45,963 Yeah, like they-- 1697 01:09:46,050 --> 01:09:47,138 Fucking studio fees. 1698 01:09:47,226 --> 01:09:49,271 Let me just do what I'm doing. 1699 01:09:49,358 --> 01:09:52,535 Because if they keep that shit up, man-- 1700 01:09:52,622 --> 01:09:54,494 Let's go. 1701 01:09:54,581 --> 01:09:55,843 We out. 1702 01:09:55,930 --> 01:09:58,062 Yeah. 1703 01:09:58,149 --> 01:10:01,283 ♪ ♪ 1704 01:10:01,370 --> 01:10:03,677 I'm just going to step back and do what I do. 1705 01:10:03,764 --> 01:10:05,896 Y'all do what y'all do. Just figure this shit out. 1706 01:10:05,983 --> 01:10:07,811 You know? 1707 01:10:07,898 --> 01:10:11,989 ♪ ♪ 1708 01:10:12,076 --> 01:10:13,687 - If you were in the middle of making a project, 1709 01:10:13,774 --> 01:10:15,689 and you've been working on it for a long time, 1710 01:10:15,776 --> 01:10:17,691 you believe you're taking all the proper measures 1711 01:10:17,778 --> 01:10:19,475 to get it done, I can certainly understand 1712 01:10:19,562 --> 01:10:22,173 why an article in "Rolling Stone" stating 1713 01:10:22,261 --> 01:10:24,175 that, in fact, you have done none of those things 1714 01:10:24,263 --> 01:10:26,134 and the album is unsanctioned 1715 01:10:26,221 --> 01:10:27,657 and doing this without permission 1716 01:10:27,744 --> 01:10:30,312 would be frustrating, to say the least. 1717 01:10:32,227 --> 01:10:34,403 - I've been coming to Milwaukee 1718 01:10:34,490 --> 01:10:36,275 for a lot of years, right? 1719 01:10:36,362 --> 01:10:37,450 But now I think we're going to be doing a lot of parties 1720 01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:39,278 together out here with each other, right? 1721 01:10:39,365 --> 01:10:40,279 [cheering] 1722 01:10:40,366 --> 01:10:41,889 - Got to do the intro. 1723 01:10:41,976 --> 01:10:44,544 Definitely warm up your mic. 1724 01:10:44,631 --> 01:10:47,503 I'm gonna position myself so as soon as it drops, 1725 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:51,028 I'm walking out. 1726 01:10:51,115 --> 01:10:55,468 But I don't want you to just-- you know, yeah, like--yeah. 1727 01:10:55,555 --> 01:10:58,688 Cool, cool, cool. This is going to be fun. 1728 01:10:58,775 --> 01:11:01,517 ♪ I'm for the hood, yo, I'm for the struggle beat ♪ 1729 01:11:01,604 --> 01:11:03,998 ♪ ♪ 1730 01:11:04,085 --> 01:11:05,129 - Ready? - Yes, sir. 1731 01:11:05,216 --> 01:11:06,783 [cheers and applause] 1732 01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:08,481 How many of us are 35 and older? 1733 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:11,875 Make some noise. [cheers and applause] 1734 01:11:11,962 --> 01:11:15,009 How many of us are under 35? [cheers and applause] 1735 01:11:15,096 --> 01:11:18,534 Okay, okay, welcome, welcome, motherfuckers, welcome. 1736 01:11:18,621 --> 01:11:20,884 On the ones and twos might join DJ Strike holding me 1737 01:11:20,971 --> 01:11:23,452 down for a dozen years now. - What up? What up? 1738 01:11:23,539 --> 01:11:25,019 - This is going to be a little bit different than anything 1739 01:11:25,106 --> 01:11:26,063 you've been to. 1740 01:11:26,150 --> 01:11:28,718 We don't get litty. 1741 01:11:28,805 --> 01:11:30,111 We rock shit. 1742 01:11:30,198 --> 01:11:31,460 So we going to rock shit tonight. 1743 01:11:31,547 --> 01:11:33,332 We rock shit! [cheers and applause] 1744 01:11:33,419 --> 01:11:34,898 Can we have some fun in Milwaukee? 1745 01:11:34,985 --> 01:11:36,683 [cheering] 1746 01:11:36,770 --> 01:11:38,337 Hip-hop is definitely in the house. 1747 01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:40,121 - Let's go. - Word. 1748 01:11:40,208 --> 01:11:41,688 And let's get into some shit. 1749 01:11:41,775 --> 01:11:42,950 My name is Dres. 1750 01:11:43,037 --> 01:11:43,951 Y'all know what it is. 1751 01:11:44,038 --> 01:11:47,171 [cheering] 1752 01:11:47,258 --> 01:11:48,956 All right, let's do this. 1753 01:11:49,043 --> 01:11:51,088 [cheering] 1754 01:11:51,175 --> 01:11:53,264 ♪ Who's the black sheep? What's the black sheep? ♪ 1755 01:11:53,352 --> 01:11:55,049 ♪ Know not who I am... ♪ 1756 01:11:55,136 --> 01:11:57,747 [soft music] 1757 01:11:57,834 --> 01:12:02,012 ♪ ♪ 1758 01:12:02,099 --> 01:12:05,929 Doing shows is me breathing, being on the road, 1759 01:12:06,016 --> 01:12:07,627 me working, me hustling, me grabbing 1760 01:12:07,714 --> 01:12:10,586 any mic that had hip-hop 1761 01:12:10,673 --> 01:12:12,980 and a paycheck affiliated with it. 1762 01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:14,416 That's my life. 1763 01:12:14,503 --> 01:12:16,766 If you can. It goes... 1764 01:12:16,853 --> 01:12:17,767 ♪ Engine, engine ♪ 1765 01:12:17,854 --> 01:12:19,247 all: Number 9! 1766 01:12:19,334 --> 01:12:20,944 - ♪ On the New York ♪ 1767 01:12:21,031 --> 01:12:21,902 all: Transit line! 1768 01:12:21,989 --> 01:12:23,425 - I get to rock-- 1769 01:12:23,512 --> 01:12:26,341 literally, rock-- audiences globally. 1770 01:12:26,428 --> 01:12:28,082 ♪ If my train goes off the track ♪ 1771 01:12:28,169 --> 01:12:30,258 ♪ Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up ♪ 1772 01:12:30,345 --> 01:12:33,870 [rapping indistinctly] 1773 01:12:33,957 --> 01:12:35,437 I lived that. 1774 01:12:35,524 --> 01:12:37,874 That's how I paid for DnD. 1775 01:12:37,961 --> 01:12:42,009 And everything aside, that's beautiful. 1776 01:12:42,096 --> 01:12:49,364 ♪ ♪ 1777 01:12:49,451 --> 01:12:51,018 - Thank you for coming. 1778 01:12:51,105 --> 01:12:52,541 - It was a pleasure to hang out with y'all, no doubt. 1779 01:12:52,628 --> 01:12:54,021 Back at you. - Appreciate you. 1780 01:12:54,108 --> 01:12:56,110 - [speaking indistinctly] 1781 01:12:56,197 --> 01:12:57,459 Now say, yeah. 1782 01:12:57,546 --> 01:12:58,591 all: Yeah! 1783 01:12:58,678 --> 01:13:01,768 - That's what I'm talking about. 1784 01:13:01,855 --> 01:13:03,857 Performing-- 1785 01:13:03,944 --> 01:13:07,513 I have those memories of me and Lawnge. 1786 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,386 One of the biggest secrets I think I learned from Lawnge 1787 01:13:11,473 --> 01:13:14,520 is to just have fun. 1788 01:13:14,607 --> 01:13:16,347 Milwaukee, big up yourselves. Word up. 1789 01:13:16,435 --> 01:13:17,784 Y'all got it going on. 1790 01:13:17,871 --> 01:13:20,482 - Good job. Good job. You did that shit. 1791 01:13:20,569 --> 01:13:24,225 - I appreciate it. - All right, now. 1792 01:13:24,312 --> 01:13:27,924 - As long as you're having fun, everyone is enjoying you. 1793 01:13:28,011 --> 01:13:30,405 ♪ ♪ 1794 01:13:30,492 --> 01:13:31,667 It's that simple. 1795 01:13:31,754 --> 01:13:35,976 ♪ ♪ 1796 01:13:36,063 --> 01:13:37,499 Whoo. 1797 01:13:37,586 --> 01:13:39,893 [sighs] Did that. 1798 01:13:39,980 --> 01:13:41,242 That's done. 1799 01:13:46,813 --> 01:13:49,163 [indistinct chatter] 1800 01:13:49,250 --> 01:13:52,732 - In 3, 2... 1801 01:13:52,819 --> 01:13:55,256 - Ah, yo, check it. This is Dres. 1802 01:13:55,343 --> 01:13:57,650 - And this is Mista Lawnge, the 9.5er. 1803 01:13:57,737 --> 01:13:59,086 - Together we make up this group called what? 1804 01:13:59,173 --> 01:14:00,391 - Black Sheep in the house. 1805 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,307 - Now we're rocking with who? 1806 01:14:03,394 --> 01:14:06,006 - Oh, shit. [laughter] 1807 01:14:06,093 --> 01:14:09,270 - I would love to see Dres and Lawnge rock. 1808 01:14:09,357 --> 01:14:12,969 But with them not being together for so long, 1809 01:14:13,056 --> 01:14:14,057 it's tricky, man. 1810 01:14:14,144 --> 01:14:15,798 It's tricky. 1811 01:14:15,885 --> 01:14:17,583 Like, you want to see Black Sheep, 1812 01:14:17,670 --> 01:14:19,933 you know, this classic team-up of the two. 1813 01:14:20,020 --> 01:14:21,761 But we're all human beings. 1814 01:14:21,848 --> 01:14:24,154 It isn't easy. It isn't easy to talk about. 1815 01:14:24,241 --> 01:14:25,765 Yeah, I don't-- 1816 01:14:25,852 --> 01:14:27,244 I don't know if that's going to happen. 1817 01:14:27,331 --> 01:14:29,856 - They were separated so long ago. 1818 01:14:29,943 --> 01:14:31,858 And since I've made it to New York 1819 01:14:31,945 --> 01:14:33,729 and have been around the scene, 1820 01:14:33,816 --> 01:14:36,036 I've gotten to know Dres over the years, always seen him. 1821 01:14:36,123 --> 01:14:38,517 I don't recall of any interaction with Mista Lawnge. 1822 01:14:38,604 --> 01:14:40,562 So I have no idea. Where is he? 1823 01:14:40,649 --> 01:14:43,086 - I don't know that they're beefing or whatever. 1824 01:14:43,173 --> 01:14:44,740 Is he going to be in the film? 1825 01:14:44,827 --> 01:14:49,310 - [laughing] 1826 01:14:49,397 --> 01:14:51,573 Fat chance. Fat chance. 1827 01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:53,532 - I'm saying, a good documentary 1828 01:14:53,619 --> 01:14:55,403 got to get to the bottom of what the fuck happened. 1829 01:14:55,490 --> 01:14:58,406 Well, first of all, where the fuck is he? 1830 01:14:58,493 --> 01:15:02,932 - I have no idea-- no clue, none at all. 1831 01:15:03,019 --> 01:15:05,587 - Like, yo, the nigga just disappeared off the Earth. 1832 01:15:05,674 --> 01:15:09,112 Like, I heard he's in Florida. 1833 01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,027 I don't know how valid that is. 1834 01:15:11,114 --> 01:15:13,203 - Last time I heard, I think he's in North Carolina maybe. 1835 01:15:13,290 --> 01:15:15,249 I don't know. - [laughs] 1836 01:15:15,336 --> 01:15:16,337 That's interesting. 1837 01:15:16,424 --> 01:15:17,556 - No, where is he? 1838 01:15:26,173 --> 01:15:29,350 [water lapping softly] 1839 01:15:29,437 --> 01:15:32,135 - In history, 1840 01:15:32,222 --> 01:15:35,225 it's always, what happened to that guy? 1841 01:15:35,312 --> 01:15:38,011 You see this guy. What happened to the other guy? 1842 01:15:38,098 --> 01:15:39,839 We know it's two. 1843 01:15:39,926 --> 01:15:42,624 You dig a little harder, and you dig a little harder, 1844 01:15:42,711 --> 01:15:44,844 and you dig a little harder. 1845 01:15:44,931 --> 01:15:48,195 But sometimes when you find that answer, 1846 01:15:48,282 --> 01:15:52,155 it does nothing because it may be by design. 1847 01:15:52,242 --> 01:15:54,331 It may be a plan. Who knows? 1848 01:15:54,418 --> 01:15:57,639 ♪ ♪ 1849 01:15:57,726 --> 01:16:01,382 Deep down, I'll always be Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep. 1850 01:16:01,469 --> 01:16:06,343 But today I'm just dad. 1851 01:16:06,430 --> 01:16:08,302 No, you stop. You stop bugging. 1852 01:16:08,389 --> 01:16:10,304 No, I'm sorry. 1853 01:16:10,391 --> 01:16:14,090 - A lot of stuff is a blur to me because it happened fast. 1854 01:16:14,177 --> 01:16:16,092 They just wanted to hear what we're capable of. 1855 01:16:16,179 --> 01:16:18,660 And then they gave us a demo budget to do 1856 01:16:18,747 --> 01:16:22,359 a real demo, you know, in a real studio. 1857 01:16:22,446 --> 01:16:25,754 I love hip-hop, and I love the music. 1858 01:16:25,841 --> 01:16:28,844 But I don't love what it comes with. 1859 01:16:28,931 --> 01:16:30,193 - I mean, you guys are so young. 1860 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,674 - It doesn't matter what your age is. 1861 01:16:32,761 --> 01:16:34,981 You're letting people know us. 1862 01:16:35,068 --> 01:16:37,679 - I'm 19 years old at the time, 1863 01:16:37,766 --> 01:16:39,986 fresh out of high school. 1864 01:16:40,073 --> 01:16:41,640 Here, go get on that stage. 1865 01:16:41,727 --> 01:16:43,598 Here, you're in front of stars. 1866 01:16:43,685 --> 01:16:45,426 You're shaking hands with A-listers. 1867 01:16:45,513 --> 01:16:49,648 You're, you know, teens making these big, mega hits. 1868 01:16:49,735 --> 01:16:53,086 When you have that success, 1869 01:16:53,173 --> 01:16:55,175 you have to maintain that success. 1870 01:16:55,262 --> 01:16:56,567 The choice is yours. 1871 01:16:56,655 --> 01:16:57,960 You can get with this, or you do that. 1872 01:16:58,047 --> 01:16:59,396 And that's what they want to see. 1873 01:16:59,483 --> 01:17:00,484 That's what they want to see. 1874 01:17:00,571 --> 01:17:02,922 And it was overwhelming. 1875 01:17:04,750 --> 01:17:08,492 That's what I hate about the music industry 1876 01:17:08,579 --> 01:17:10,364 and success-- 1877 01:17:10,451 --> 01:17:12,322 people's anticipation. 1878 01:17:12,409 --> 01:17:15,630 You get kind of a anxiety. 1879 01:17:15,717 --> 01:17:18,024 I'm not doing it for the love, anymore. 1880 01:17:18,111 --> 01:17:20,635 I'm doing it for their expectation. 1881 01:17:20,722 --> 01:17:22,202 - How many people who grew up in hip-hop? 1882 01:17:22,289 --> 01:17:23,986 Make some noise if you grew up in hip-hop. 1883 01:17:24,073 --> 01:17:25,814 [cheering] 1884 01:17:25,901 --> 01:17:28,295 - Hip-hop cannibalizes itself so much 1885 01:17:28,382 --> 01:17:30,776 that they're always looking for the next new. 1886 01:17:30,863 --> 01:17:32,908 Look at this. Forget that. 1887 01:17:32,995 --> 01:17:34,605 That's old. 1888 01:17:34,693 --> 01:17:37,173 Hip-hop is the only genre that that happens in. 1889 01:17:37,260 --> 01:17:41,830 That took away the love for what I was doing. 1890 01:17:41,917 --> 01:17:43,353 So I just left. 1891 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,747 ♪ ♪ 1892 01:17:45,834 --> 01:17:47,488 That was it. Yeah. 1893 01:17:47,575 --> 01:17:50,491 [car horns honking] 1894 01:17:50,578 --> 01:17:53,146 - I'm the Naked Cowboy. [guitar playing] 1895 01:17:53,233 --> 01:17:56,149 - Ladies, take a picture with you, ladies, come on. 1896 01:17:56,236 --> 01:17:58,194 - ♪ I'm the Naked Cowboy ♪ 1897 01:17:58,281 --> 01:18:00,849 ♪ ♪ 1898 01:18:00,936 --> 01:18:03,634 [water running] 1899 01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:09,902 - You think about where you are in life, your age, 1900 01:18:09,989 --> 01:18:12,687 you know, and you think about people that you know and love, 1901 01:18:12,774 --> 01:18:15,342 the time that passes... 1902 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:19,259 See, I got on fresh paint. 1903 01:18:19,346 --> 01:18:21,696 This is fresh paint, so you do it naturally, 1904 01:18:21,783 --> 01:18:24,612 so it's not super gray. 1905 01:18:24,699 --> 01:18:28,094 So you can always see the older rappers with freshly painted, 1906 01:18:28,181 --> 01:18:30,836 but right underneath is gray, a lot of gray-- 1907 01:18:30,923 --> 01:18:32,359 the new growth. [chuckles] 1908 01:18:32,446 --> 01:18:34,491 Hey, it is what it is, man. 1909 01:18:34,578 --> 01:18:38,452 ♪ ♪ 1910 01:18:38,539 --> 01:18:42,673 Coming back to New York is very nostalgic, 1911 01:18:42,761 --> 01:18:45,372 and it is motivation. 1912 01:18:45,459 --> 01:18:48,201 It really throws me right back into the space 1913 01:18:48,288 --> 01:18:51,334 that I was in with club life and Dres 1914 01:18:51,421 --> 01:18:54,642 and being around the music industry. 1915 01:18:54,729 --> 01:18:56,513 What led up to the success of Black Sheep 1916 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,690 was what was fun for me. 1917 01:18:59,778 --> 01:19:03,216 That is the part that I try to hold on to the most. 1918 01:19:03,303 --> 01:19:06,436 It's been, like, 20-plus years. 1919 01:19:06,523 --> 01:19:09,396 I'm hoping to really get that energy back. 1920 01:19:12,791 --> 01:19:16,533 You know, for me, when it comes to Black Sheep and Dres, 1921 01:19:16,620 --> 01:19:18,579 no, never say never. 1922 01:19:20,711 --> 01:19:27,544 ♪ ♪ 1923 01:19:37,337 --> 01:19:39,730 - Yo. 1924 01:19:39,818 --> 01:19:41,384 [chuckles] - What's going on, B? 1925 01:19:41,471 --> 01:19:43,604 - How you doing, man? - Good to see you, brother. 1926 01:19:43,691 --> 01:19:45,824 - Good to see you, too, man. - Word up. 1927 01:19:45,911 --> 01:19:47,956 Say hello to somebodies. - What up, world? 1928 01:19:48,043 --> 01:19:50,350 It's Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep. 1929 01:19:50,437 --> 01:19:52,047 - This is my brother right here, y'all. 1930 01:19:52,134 --> 01:19:53,570 It's been a long time since y'all got this picture. 1931 01:19:53,657 --> 01:19:55,268 I better freeze-frame that one. 1932 01:19:55,355 --> 01:19:56,965 Word up. - Stay tuned. 1933 01:19:57,052 --> 01:19:58,184 - All right, for real, stay tuned. 1934 01:19:58,271 --> 01:19:59,663 Much love. 1935 01:19:59,750 --> 01:20:00,664 I'll catch y'all. 1936 01:20:00,751 --> 01:20:07,628 ♪ ♪ 1937 01:20:21,511 --> 01:20:24,297 Where we're headed was one of the top shows 1938 01:20:24,384 --> 01:20:27,343 ever in my life-- the Apollo Theater. 1939 01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:30,303 [cheers and applause] 1940 01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:33,088 The balcony was literally shaking up and down. 1941 01:20:33,175 --> 01:20:34,698 - Didn't we have to tell people to stop jumping 1942 01:20:34,785 --> 01:20:36,526 because the shit was-- 1943 01:20:36,613 --> 01:20:38,311 - Yeah, like, we really thought that shit was going to break. 1944 01:20:38,398 --> 01:20:39,834 - Uh-huh. It's like, okay, now we're home. 1945 01:20:39,921 --> 01:20:42,576 - Yep. 1946 01:20:42,663 --> 01:20:44,012 - Wow. 1947 01:20:44,099 --> 01:20:47,233 Black Sheep--it's been years. It's been years. 1948 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:48,887 Oh, my gosh. 1949 01:20:48,974 --> 01:20:50,105 Legends. 1950 01:20:50,192 --> 01:20:51,280 - What's up? 1951 01:20:51,367 --> 01:20:53,021 How are you, man? - Long, long time. 1952 01:20:53,108 --> 01:20:54,762 - Yeah, right. How's everything? 1953 01:20:54,849 --> 01:20:57,243 If you embrace Harlem, Harlem embraces you right back. 1954 01:20:57,330 --> 01:20:58,809 Good to see you, man. 1955 01:20:58,897 --> 01:21:00,463 This is our stomping grounds. 1956 01:21:00,550 --> 01:21:02,422 We'd meet in front of the Apollo. 1957 01:21:02,509 --> 01:21:03,945 - Yep. 1958 01:21:04,032 --> 01:21:06,252 - Upstairs was a studio at the time. 1959 01:21:06,339 --> 01:21:07,557 - We mixed "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" 1960 01:21:07,644 --> 01:21:08,907 right in here. 1961 01:21:08,994 --> 01:21:11,126 - So being here is very inspiring. 1962 01:21:11,213 --> 01:21:12,562 - That's real. 1963 01:21:12,649 --> 01:21:14,086 And it also puts you in touch with-- 1964 01:21:14,173 --> 01:21:16,958 Like, this is who we do this shit for. 1965 01:21:17,045 --> 01:21:18,307 - Y'all amazing. 1966 01:21:18,394 --> 01:21:19,961 - Harlem gives that right back. 1967 01:21:20,048 --> 01:21:21,615 - I respect what you're doing with the tribute. 1968 01:21:21,702 --> 01:21:22,790 - Oh, I appreciate that, man. 1969 01:21:22,877 --> 01:21:24,792 This is coming home. 1970 01:21:24,879 --> 01:21:27,447 - The world-famous Apollo Theater... 1971 01:21:27,534 --> 01:21:31,103 - The Apollo Theater--first of all, it was sold out... 1972 01:21:31,190 --> 01:21:33,061 - Yeah. - Standing room only. 1973 01:21:33,148 --> 01:21:35,107 - It was tense. It was anxiety. 1974 01:21:35,194 --> 01:21:38,371 It's like that before any big show. 1975 01:21:38,458 --> 01:21:41,896 - I remember after that show us walking down 1976 01:21:41,983 --> 01:21:44,638 125th Street this way... [car horn honks] 1977 01:21:44,725 --> 01:21:47,467 And every car going by was just honking at us. 1978 01:21:47,554 --> 01:21:50,774 [echoing] It was like, y'all did it. 1979 01:21:50,861 --> 01:21:54,126 And we just walking, just floating down 125th Street, 1980 01:21:54,213 --> 01:21:57,216 just feeling like I wasn't touching the ground. 1981 01:21:57,303 --> 01:21:59,218 - The stage has been graced by such artists 1982 01:21:59,305 --> 01:22:01,829 as Sammy Davis Jr., Count Basie... 1983 01:22:01,916 --> 01:22:03,135 - Ella Fitzgerald. 1984 01:22:03,222 --> 01:22:04,658 - It's a tradition of Black music. 1985 01:22:04,745 --> 01:22:07,269 For us, that was real important. 1986 01:22:07,356 --> 01:22:10,490 And then us doing stuff like late-night television-- 1987 01:22:10,577 --> 01:22:13,710 every audience--we were always having to prove ourselves. 1988 01:22:13,797 --> 01:22:16,191 - It's Arsenio Hall! 1989 01:22:16,278 --> 01:22:18,802 - Time we did Arsenio... - I got something for y'all. 1990 01:22:18,889 --> 01:22:20,369 Oh, we got a great show for you. 1991 01:22:20,456 --> 01:22:22,154 - I want to do some different shit. 1992 01:22:22,241 --> 01:22:25,722 So I was like, listen, we perform from the audience. 1993 01:22:25,809 --> 01:22:28,769 - ♪ We're the Black Sheep ♪ 1994 01:22:28,856 --> 01:22:31,859 - Arsenio was like, you got to talk to my producer 1995 01:22:31,946 --> 01:22:33,556 about that shit. - [laughs] 1996 01:22:33,643 --> 01:22:35,036 - So he took me to the producer. 1997 01:22:35,123 --> 01:22:37,038 ♪ ♪ 1998 01:22:37,125 --> 01:22:40,999 He was like, okay, so let's just try it. 1999 01:22:41,086 --> 01:22:44,524 And the shit popped off. - Yeah, it was crazy. 2000 01:22:44,611 --> 01:22:46,395 It was crazy. 2001 01:22:46,482 --> 01:22:48,049 [cheers and applause] 2002 01:22:48,136 --> 01:22:50,704 - So that became a format for them to do that. 2003 01:22:50,791 --> 01:22:52,358 - Are we ready? 2004 01:22:52,445 --> 01:22:54,403 - Here's Jay Leno! 2005 01:22:54,490 --> 01:22:56,275 - And then Leno-- 2006 01:22:56,362 --> 01:22:57,928 - Ladies and gentlemen! 2007 01:22:58,016 --> 01:23:00,888 - ♪ Everybody say scream ♪ [cheers and applause] 2008 01:23:00,975 --> 01:23:04,935 - That was tremendous for the culture. 2009 01:23:05,023 --> 01:23:07,025 That was the beginnings 2010 01:23:07,112 --> 01:23:09,853 of putting hip-hop in Middle America. 2011 01:23:11,681 --> 01:23:15,120 - Being in New York, reconnecting with Dres, 2012 01:23:15,207 --> 01:23:17,383 filming this documentary-- 2013 01:23:17,470 --> 01:23:20,603 it's kind of, like, intense for me. 2014 01:23:20,690 --> 01:23:22,605 You know, just in my own head, 2015 01:23:22,692 --> 01:23:24,303 it's kind of "Twilight Zone"-ish. 2016 01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:26,087 - When we lived here, like, nobody 2017 01:23:26,174 --> 01:23:28,524 really knew we lived here. 2018 01:23:28,611 --> 01:23:32,702 - And the engine of my mind starting up, 2019 01:23:32,789 --> 01:23:34,269 putting everything together, 2020 01:23:34,356 --> 01:23:39,187 but, you know, I'm just looking for inspiration. 2021 01:23:39,274 --> 01:23:41,668 If the right thing comes about, 2022 01:23:41,755 --> 01:23:44,149 you never know what's going to happen. 2023 01:23:47,543 --> 01:23:51,330 - Mista Lawnge, Dres, Black Sheep, slam now. 2024 01:23:51,417 --> 01:23:53,288 My man. - Good to see you. 2025 01:23:53,375 --> 01:23:54,724 - Oh, my gosh. 2026 01:23:54,811 --> 01:23:56,596 I ain't seen you in forever, man. 2027 01:23:56,683 --> 01:23:58,641 What's up with you? You got a beard on me now. 2028 01:23:58,728 --> 01:24:00,078 [laughter] 2029 01:24:00,165 --> 01:24:02,254 Mista Lawnge got a beard on me, D. 2030 01:24:02,341 --> 01:24:05,126 - It's painted. [laughter] 2031 01:24:05,213 --> 01:24:06,214 - Ah, shit. 2032 01:24:06,301 --> 01:24:07,607 This is my code D right here, man. 2033 01:24:07,694 --> 01:24:09,478 - No doubt, no doubt. - That's what's up. 2034 01:24:09,565 --> 01:24:11,350 So we're putting the band back together. 2035 01:24:11,437 --> 01:24:13,482 - Very, very possible, man. That's what we looking at, man. 2036 01:24:13,569 --> 01:24:15,702 We going to be like-- - I still got it. 2037 01:24:15,789 --> 01:24:17,399 [laughter] 2038 01:24:17,486 --> 01:24:19,488 - You know what I'm saying? Yo, man. 2039 01:24:19,575 --> 01:24:20,663 For real, for real. 2040 01:24:20,750 --> 01:24:22,839 - How are you feeling about-- 2041 01:24:22,926 --> 01:24:24,232 You got something written, though? 2042 01:24:24,319 --> 01:24:25,668 - Shit. I could play with that one. 2043 01:24:25,755 --> 01:24:27,757 [rhythmic beats playing] 2044 01:24:27,844 --> 01:24:32,501 - This is Dilla, you know, from the DnD project. 2045 01:24:32,588 --> 01:24:34,938 You want to jump in? You want me to set it? 2046 01:24:35,025 --> 01:24:36,679 It don't matter to me. 2047 01:24:36,766 --> 01:24:38,333 - Yeah, I'll jump in, while shit is in my head. 2048 01:24:38,420 --> 01:24:39,682 - All right. 2049 01:24:42,859 --> 01:24:44,600 - While I was on the plane, I was in my own head 2050 01:24:44,687 --> 01:24:47,168 about what we were going to be doing. 2051 01:24:47,255 --> 01:24:51,564 I really had no expectations. 2052 01:24:51,651 --> 01:24:55,045 [whispering indistinctly to self] 2053 01:24:55,133 --> 01:24:58,048 Concepts start flying from what I see, 2054 01:24:58,136 --> 01:25:00,050 you know, regular life. 2055 01:25:00,138 --> 01:25:03,228 The way things happen... 2056 01:25:03,315 --> 01:25:05,534 people. 2057 01:25:05,621 --> 01:25:07,580 And I'll automatically go into writing. 2058 01:25:07,667 --> 01:25:10,322 - Mista Lawnge verse--we haven't heard in a minute. 2059 01:25:10,409 --> 01:25:12,019 That's what's up. 2060 01:25:12,106 --> 01:25:14,152 - Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep... 2061 01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:15,805 I'm gonna just run through it a couple of times 2062 01:25:15,892 --> 01:25:17,807 until I learn this shit. 2063 01:25:17,894 --> 01:25:19,331 - Y'all need the beat? 2064 01:25:19,418 --> 01:25:21,594 - Nah, this for the DnD. This is a Dilla shit. 2065 01:25:21,681 --> 01:25:23,335 - Oh, oh, Dilla drop. Oh, okay. That's right. 2066 01:25:23,422 --> 01:25:25,119 - Get him on this project, you know? 2067 01:25:25,206 --> 01:25:26,729 - Yeah, yeah. - That'd be crazy. 2068 01:25:26,816 --> 01:25:28,383 Let's do it again. 2069 01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:31,256 We got the energy. - Mm-hmm. 2070 01:25:31,343 --> 01:25:33,649 I mean, with the wild success of Black Sheep, 2071 01:25:33,736 --> 01:25:35,260 I still look back. 2072 01:25:35,347 --> 01:25:37,566 That wasn't the best part. 2073 01:25:37,653 --> 01:25:39,699 The best part was that growing-- 2074 01:25:39,786 --> 01:25:43,442 you know, just brothers making music, 2075 01:25:43,529 --> 01:25:45,270 doing what we love. 2076 01:25:45,357 --> 01:25:49,012 - We navigated, and we found our way to here, man. 2077 01:25:49,099 --> 01:25:51,450 I'm proud of us for that. 2078 01:25:51,537 --> 01:25:54,104 - We learned from our mistakes. 2079 01:25:54,192 --> 01:25:56,759 Continuation. - You know what I'm saying? 2080 01:25:56,846 --> 01:25:59,762 What it could've been, what it should've been. 2081 01:25:59,849 --> 01:26:02,852 - Everything happens for a reason. 2082 01:26:02,939 --> 01:26:04,506 - Let's do it. 2083 01:26:04,593 --> 01:26:07,727 - So let's do some shit together. 2084 01:26:07,814 --> 01:26:10,556 ♪ Yo, Mista Lawnge is the K-E-Y ♪ 2085 01:26:10,643 --> 01:26:12,384 ♪ And some of y'all are going to say he lie ♪ 2086 01:26:12,471 --> 01:26:14,821 ♪ So, listen, maybe I need to spit that truth ♪ 2087 01:26:14,908 --> 01:26:16,431 ♪ When I hit that booth ♪ 2088 01:26:16,518 --> 01:26:18,128 ♪ Then y'all sleeping-ass skeptics ♪ 2089 01:26:18,216 --> 01:26:19,608 ♪ Could get that proof ♪ 2090 01:26:19,695 --> 01:26:21,871 ♪ It's undeniable, me, I'm so reliable ♪ 2091 01:26:21,958 --> 01:26:25,005 ♪ But a lot of rappers' success is really unjustifiable... ♪ 2092 01:26:25,092 --> 01:26:27,964 [train rumbling softly] 2093 01:26:28,051 --> 01:26:29,705 [tone beeps] 2094 01:26:29,792 --> 01:26:31,577 - Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, 2095 01:26:31,664 --> 01:26:34,014 we're approaching our next station stop. 2096 01:26:34,101 --> 01:26:36,234 [line trilling] 2097 01:26:36,321 --> 01:26:38,453 - Hey, Dres. Ma Dukes here. 2098 01:26:38,540 --> 01:26:39,976 What up, doe? 2099 01:26:40,063 --> 01:26:41,978 I thought I need to call you. 2100 01:26:42,065 --> 01:26:46,418 After all the rhetoric and misconceptions about things, 2101 01:26:46,505 --> 01:26:48,637 I really think we should get together 2102 01:26:48,724 --> 01:26:50,987 and, you know like, have a chat, 2103 01:26:51,074 --> 01:26:53,947 kind of explain to each other what the heck's going on, 2104 01:26:54,034 --> 01:26:57,080 you know, sit down-- you, me, and Toney, 2105 01:26:57,167 --> 01:26:59,431 if that's okay with you. 2106 01:26:59,518 --> 01:27:00,519 I don't know what your schedule is, 2107 01:27:00,606 --> 01:27:05,001 but we'll be in D.C. Wednesday. 2108 01:27:05,088 --> 01:27:07,787 So try to hit me back. 2109 01:27:07,874 --> 01:27:11,486 If I have to extend it a day, I will, but let me know, okay? 2110 01:27:11,573 --> 01:27:14,968 Reach me back at 313 number or either of the 323s. 2111 01:27:15,055 --> 01:27:16,448 Both of them I'll have on. 2112 01:27:16,535 --> 01:27:17,840 One love. 2113 01:27:18,928 --> 01:27:20,234 [tone beeps] 2114 01:27:20,321 --> 01:27:21,801 - Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, 2115 01:27:21,888 --> 01:27:24,020 we are approaching our final destination, 2116 01:27:24,107 --> 01:27:26,327 Washington, D.C., station. 2117 01:27:26,414 --> 01:27:28,024 At this time, we ask you... 2118 01:27:28,111 --> 01:27:30,549 - I haven't seen Ma since we were in Puerto Rico. 2119 01:27:30,636 --> 01:27:32,638 As far as this project itself, you know, 2120 01:27:32,725 --> 01:27:35,336 I've had to deal with a lot of doubt. 2121 01:27:35,423 --> 01:27:38,644 - Washington, DC, final station. 2122 01:27:38,731 --> 01:27:40,385 - We're going through a cloudy situation. 2123 01:27:40,472 --> 01:27:41,734 You know what I'm saying? 2124 01:27:41,821 --> 01:27:43,910 And it's not for me to move on and just think 2125 01:27:43,997 --> 01:27:45,564 that it's going to be okay. 2126 01:27:45,651 --> 01:27:47,435 That's not how it's going to work. 2127 01:27:49,437 --> 01:27:50,656 So whatever is in question, 2128 01:27:50,743 --> 01:27:53,572 I'd like to address now face-to-face 2129 01:27:53,659 --> 01:27:56,531 so that there isn't any misunderstandings. 2130 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,883 What up? 2131 01:28:03,190 --> 01:28:04,539 How are you? 2132 01:28:04,626 --> 01:28:05,540 - Good to see you, man. - No doubt. 2133 01:28:05,627 --> 01:28:07,063 No doubt. - Good to see you, too. 2134 01:28:07,150 --> 01:28:08,456 - No doubt, no doubt. Hey, Ma. 2135 01:28:08,543 --> 01:28:09,370 - What up, doe? - Ah, here you go. 2136 01:28:09,457 --> 01:28:11,154 This is for you. - Oh, my God. 2137 01:28:11,241 --> 01:28:12,199 Thank you. - And it's good to see you. 2138 01:28:12,286 --> 01:28:13,722 - Good to see you, too. 2139 01:28:13,809 --> 01:28:16,377 Get all that baggage off your back and enjoy. 2140 01:28:16,464 --> 01:28:17,639 - It's so good to see you. That's what's up. 2141 01:28:17,726 --> 01:28:19,467 - Thank you. You know I like gifts. 2142 01:28:19,554 --> 01:28:20,773 - It's been too long. - Yes. 2143 01:28:20,860 --> 01:28:22,296 - Have a seat right here? - All right. 2144 01:28:22,383 --> 01:28:23,689 What's up now? How y'all doing? 2145 01:28:23,776 --> 01:28:25,778 - Pretty good. It's been a good day. 2146 01:28:25,865 --> 01:28:27,170 Weather is not bad. - Yeah, right? 2147 01:28:27,257 --> 01:28:28,607 Right? - Yeah. 2148 01:28:28,694 --> 01:28:30,522 - It turned out pretty decent out there. 2149 01:28:30,609 --> 01:28:32,524 It was a little overcast when I left New York, 2150 01:28:32,611 --> 01:28:33,655 but it's nice out here. - Oh, yes. 2151 01:28:33,742 --> 01:28:35,091 - Yeah, it's been quite the walk. 2152 01:28:35,178 --> 01:28:37,093 It's been quite the walk. 2153 01:28:37,180 --> 01:28:38,791 Yeah. Yeah, we're here, though. 2154 01:28:38,878 --> 01:28:40,836 - Yes. - Yeah, you know? 2155 01:28:40,923 --> 01:28:44,753 I really wanted to say that, you know, like, this... 2156 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,713 Like, I just really trusted who we were. 2157 01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,584 Like, you know, like, what happened? 2158 01:28:49,671 --> 01:28:51,064 Like, what-- 2159 01:28:51,151 --> 01:28:53,762 - There are numerous people doing Dilla music-- 2160 01:28:53,849 --> 01:28:58,593 not permitted, just willy-nilly doing whatever. 2161 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,726 It's a known fact that he's one of the most 2162 01:29:00,813 --> 01:29:03,337 bootlegged artists ever. 2163 01:29:03,424 --> 01:29:06,122 And... 2164 01:29:06,209 --> 01:29:11,171 as far as music, for this project... 2165 01:29:11,258 --> 01:29:14,000 I'm saying it from me to the ears of those that will listen 2166 01:29:14,087 --> 01:29:16,089 with my own face and mouth. 2167 01:29:16,176 --> 01:29:18,047 This was something that I've been very excited about. 2168 01:29:18,134 --> 01:29:20,049 - Thank you. 2169 01:29:20,136 --> 01:29:23,226 - This article has brought a lot of attention 2170 01:29:23,313 --> 01:29:25,272 to a lot of people. 2171 01:29:25,359 --> 01:29:27,405 - I know who I'm talking to. - Mm-hmm. 2172 01:29:27,492 --> 01:29:29,102 - And I know what I'm hearing. - Yeah. 2173 01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:30,233 - These are two different things. 2174 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,800 Like, what happened? 2175 01:29:31,887 --> 01:29:34,368 This doesn't even sound remotely like-- 2176 01:29:34,455 --> 01:29:36,326 you know what I'm saying-- like us. 2177 01:29:36,414 --> 01:29:39,199 - That was a messy interview. 2178 01:29:39,286 --> 01:29:40,635 That wasn't my quote. 2179 01:29:40,722 --> 01:29:42,420 I was confused. - Like, it's almost-- 2180 01:29:42,507 --> 01:29:44,334 - So I just don't know. - Yeah, like, why-- 2181 01:29:44,422 --> 01:29:46,554 why even write this interview? 2182 01:29:46,641 --> 01:29:49,775 You just was unsure if you wanted to have this happen? 2183 01:29:49,862 --> 01:29:51,429 - No. 2184 01:29:51,516 --> 01:29:52,952 Toney, did you--when you came to kitchen, 2185 01:29:53,039 --> 01:29:54,954 you said, did you see this? 2186 01:29:55,041 --> 01:29:58,044 - I couldn't believe that "Rolling Stone" article, 2187 01:29:58,131 --> 01:30:02,527 using those particular words, misquoting my wife. 2188 01:30:02,614 --> 01:30:04,877 It's like, oh, my God, yo. 2189 01:30:04,964 --> 01:30:06,444 How? - I don't know. 2190 01:30:06,531 --> 01:30:07,706 - How? 2191 01:30:07,793 --> 01:30:10,230 That's when I knew for a fact that-- 2192 01:30:10,317 --> 01:30:12,537 - Something was very wrong. - Something was very wrong. 2193 01:30:12,624 --> 01:30:14,190 - Even some of the wording in it was kind of, like-- 2194 01:30:14,277 --> 01:30:15,888 - It was, like, crazy. 2195 01:30:15,975 --> 01:30:17,106 - Oh, right, right, right, right. 2196 01:30:17,193 --> 01:30:19,848 - And it didn't make sense, and it was too much 2197 01:30:19,935 --> 01:30:22,416 that I didn't know about that was being said. 2198 01:30:22,503 --> 01:30:25,332 I endorsed this project in the beginning. 2199 01:30:25,419 --> 01:30:27,377 I've been so excited about it. 2200 01:30:27,465 --> 01:30:31,730 And the sheer fact that the idea happened in my own home 2201 01:30:31,817 --> 01:30:34,646 in Puerto Rico, okay, three years ago, 2202 01:30:34,733 --> 01:30:36,212 so they don't have to worry about-- 2203 01:30:36,299 --> 01:30:37,823 Nobody has to put an article up. 2204 01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:40,521 - Yo, we here. This is what's important. 2205 01:30:40,608 --> 01:30:41,914 - You know, we withstood the storm. 2206 01:30:42,001 --> 01:30:43,176 - Right. 2207 01:30:43,263 --> 01:30:44,699 - And we didn't know it was coming. 2208 01:30:44,786 --> 01:30:46,266 - Right, right. Real talk. - We go, oh, you know. 2209 01:30:46,353 --> 01:30:47,485 - On so many fronts. - And that's life. 2210 01:30:47,572 --> 01:30:49,182 - Yeah. 2211 01:30:49,269 --> 01:30:51,271 - That's the real thing, and that's what makes us strong. 2212 01:30:51,358 --> 01:30:52,838 - And you want to know, like, you know, 2213 01:30:52,925 --> 01:30:54,404 that your relationships can survive that. 2214 01:30:54,492 --> 01:30:56,232 - And that's what it is. 2215 01:30:56,319 --> 01:30:57,930 Let's rise together. - Yeah, no doubt. 2216 01:30:58,017 --> 01:31:01,150 - That's what it is. - Thank you, sincerely. 2217 01:31:01,237 --> 01:31:03,152 - You still and always did have my blessing. 2218 01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:05,198 - Thank you. 2219 01:31:05,285 --> 01:31:07,026 That was real. 2220 01:31:07,113 --> 01:31:08,244 - It is real. 2221 01:31:08,331 --> 01:31:11,726 ♪ ♪ 2222 01:31:11,813 --> 01:31:13,423 - Anytime I can get a chance to see Ma, 2223 01:31:13,511 --> 01:31:16,992 it's, like, this just really parental type of feeling 2224 01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:19,038 that I get in her presence. 2225 01:31:19,125 --> 01:31:22,432 I think about the very humble beginnings of us 2226 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,175 just meeting by chance 2227 01:31:26,262 --> 01:31:28,264 and all that it's become, 2228 01:31:28,351 --> 01:31:30,615 you know, from the pandemic, 2229 01:31:30,702 --> 01:31:33,313 to the trials and tribulations of creation, 2230 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:37,404 to, you know, real life taking place in the interim. 2231 01:31:37,491 --> 01:31:40,320 It's been a learning experience within itself. 2232 01:31:40,407 --> 01:31:43,366 More than anything, I think it's invigorated in me 2233 01:31:43,453 --> 01:31:44,759 to definitely make sure that 2234 01:31:44,846 --> 01:31:47,936 my estate and my affairs are situated. 2235 01:31:48,023 --> 01:31:51,070 Publishing and the music that I have done 2236 01:31:51,157 --> 01:31:52,550 are going to my children 2237 01:31:52,637 --> 01:31:56,466 to help them move forward in life. 2238 01:31:56,554 --> 01:32:00,340 It also put the desire in me to leave something, you know, 2239 01:32:00,427 --> 01:32:02,647 so I'm very grateful for that. 2240 01:32:06,215 --> 01:32:09,871 What the world is seeing you do for your son 2241 01:32:09,958 --> 01:32:12,091 says it all, as far as who you are 2242 01:32:12,178 --> 01:32:14,136 and the mother that you are to this world. 2243 01:32:14,223 --> 01:32:15,964 - Wow. Thank you for that. - Like, for real, for real. 2244 01:32:16,051 --> 01:32:17,792 - Dilla was my whole world. 2245 01:32:17,879 --> 01:32:21,143 Some parents don't even know that their children were 2246 01:32:21,230 --> 01:32:23,493 talented or creative. - Right. 2247 01:32:23,581 --> 01:32:24,756 - But you got to nourish that talent 2248 01:32:24,843 --> 01:32:26,845 to make the world better for young people. 2249 01:32:26,932 --> 01:32:27,802 - Especially VH1 Save The Music. 2250 01:32:27,889 --> 01:32:29,064 - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? 2251 01:32:29,151 --> 01:32:30,109 Oh, that's what's up. 2252 01:32:30,196 --> 01:32:32,198 - Yeah, that's--that's my baby. 2253 01:32:32,285 --> 01:32:33,634 - I mean, that's why-- how many schools we are now? 2254 01:32:33,721 --> 01:32:36,332 - Oh, my God. We have 40 schools in. 2255 01:32:36,419 --> 01:32:37,725 - That's what's up. 2256 01:32:37,812 --> 01:32:39,597 - And just for your own benefit, 2257 01:32:39,684 --> 01:32:43,862 visit any one of the J Dilla Tech Grant schools 2258 01:32:43,949 --> 01:32:47,430 to see that growth is happening, 2259 01:32:47,517 --> 01:32:48,997 and children have more resources. 2260 01:32:49,084 --> 01:32:53,088 - And it keeps introducing who he is to them. 2261 01:32:53,175 --> 01:32:55,090 - Yes, it does. - You know what I'm saying? 2262 01:32:55,177 --> 01:32:56,788 Like, they're gonna grow up knowing, like you know, 2263 01:32:56,875 --> 01:32:58,833 Dilla, that means something. 2264 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,836 That name means something. That name helped me. 2265 01:33:01,923 --> 01:33:03,098 - How are you? - I'm good. How are you? 2266 01:33:03,185 --> 01:33:04,752 Hello. 2267 01:33:04,839 --> 01:33:07,059 - Can you hold on? - Sure. 2268 01:33:07,146 --> 01:33:10,062 [hip hop music playing] - Hey, yo, yo, yo, guys, guys. 2269 01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:12,542 Turn off the speaker and let's get something recording. 2270 01:33:12,630 --> 01:33:14,240 Let's not vibe right now, okay? 2271 01:33:14,327 --> 01:33:17,373 So Za's gonna record, bring up a--bring up a thing. 2272 01:33:17,460 --> 01:33:20,202 - Save The Music's mission is helping students, 2273 01:33:20,289 --> 01:33:22,552 schools, and communities reach their full potential 2274 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,424 through making music. 2275 01:33:24,511 --> 01:33:27,296 One of the things I saw in my first years here was 2276 01:33:27,383 --> 01:33:31,736 there was incredible demand from the student side 2277 01:33:31,823 --> 01:33:36,044 for hip hop, electronic music, beat-making-- 2278 01:33:36,131 --> 01:33:37,567 you know, the music that the students are 2279 01:33:37,655 --> 01:33:39,004 actually listening to. 2280 01:33:39,091 --> 01:33:40,396 - Yeah! 2281 01:33:41,746 --> 01:33:43,225 You want to record that in? 2282 01:33:43,312 --> 01:33:44,618 - We've got to name it something other than 2283 01:33:44,705 --> 01:33:45,706 the Music Tech Grant. 2284 01:33:45,793 --> 01:33:47,752 We put our heads together. 2285 01:33:47,839 --> 01:33:50,972 There's really only one person who could possibly be 2286 01:33:51,059 --> 01:33:55,281 the patron saint for this program, and that's J Dilla. 2287 01:33:55,368 --> 01:33:57,152 - Does anybody else wanna take a stab at a different beat? 2288 01:33:57,239 --> 01:33:58,414 - Yes. 2289 01:33:58,501 --> 01:34:00,286 - The Dilla Tech Program, 2290 01:34:00,373 --> 01:34:02,592 we see it's incredibly popular with music students, 2291 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,899 and then it also pulls in 2292 01:34:04,986 --> 01:34:07,293 a whole other population of students 2293 01:34:07,380 --> 01:34:11,993 who never considered music through the traditional paths. 2294 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,952 I'm always amazed 2295 01:34:14,039 --> 01:34:16,041 when you take young people seriously 2296 01:34:16,128 --> 01:34:19,000 and their creativity seriously what they come back with. 2297 01:34:19,087 --> 01:34:21,046 - So, let's meet everybody. Y'all got to introduce me. 2298 01:34:21,133 --> 01:34:23,135 - Absolutely. This is Elijah right there, 2299 01:34:23,222 --> 01:34:25,050 definitely one of our producers-in-making over here. 2300 01:34:25,137 --> 01:34:27,226 - How are you? - Good, man. How you feeling? 2301 01:34:27,313 --> 01:34:28,618 - These are some of the guys over here. 2302 01:34:28,706 --> 01:34:30,011 They're working right now. 2303 01:34:30,098 --> 01:34:31,752 Who's in the booth? 2304 01:34:31,839 --> 01:34:33,319 - Can you engineer? - No, he engineer my music. 2305 01:34:33,406 --> 01:34:36,322 - Oh, yeah? Yeah? And all of y'all are artists? 2306 01:34:36,409 --> 01:34:37,932 All of y'all are engineers? All of y'all producers? 2307 01:34:38,019 --> 01:34:38,890 - No, I'm an artist. - I'm an artist. 2308 01:34:38,977 --> 01:34:40,413 - Artist, artist. - I'm a ballplayer, too. 2309 01:34:40,500 --> 01:34:41,936 - Ballplayer, too? - Yeah, he an artist, though. 2310 01:34:42,023 --> 01:34:43,808 - All right. What's your name, champ? 2311 01:34:43,895 --> 01:34:45,244 - Name's Kenny. - Kenny? 2312 01:34:45,331 --> 01:34:46,680 - I'ma come up. - Kenny, you wanna come up? 2313 01:34:46,767 --> 01:34:48,247 - Watch this. - I like it. 2314 01:34:48,334 --> 01:34:50,292 - Give it a couple years, man. Not even a couple years. 2315 01:34:50,379 --> 01:34:51,903 Just give it a couple months. I'ma blow up. 2316 01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:53,339 I promise y'all that. You heard? 2317 01:34:53,426 --> 01:34:54,819 - You know what? I like the attitude. 2318 01:34:54,906 --> 01:34:56,211 That's the attitude you supposed to have. 2319 01:34:56,298 --> 01:34:58,126 You know what I'm saying? That's what's up. 2320 01:34:58,213 --> 01:35:00,172 So I'm saying-- so can we hear something? 2321 01:35:00,259 --> 01:35:01,608 - Which one you want? 2322 01:35:01,695 --> 01:35:04,785 - I want the one that you think is the dopest. 2323 01:35:04,872 --> 01:35:06,526 Like, when you play something for somebody, 2324 01:35:06,613 --> 01:35:08,049 you give them your best shot. 2325 01:35:08,136 --> 01:35:09,921 You don't give them something you working on. 2326 01:35:10,008 --> 01:35:12,097 - ♪ I'ma make it when I'm 18 ♪ 2327 01:35:12,184 --> 01:35:13,707 ♪ I'ma make it when I'm 18 ♪ 2328 01:35:13,794 --> 01:35:15,491 ♪ Nigga, I was hoping ♪ 2329 01:35:15,578 --> 01:35:17,363 ♪ Living in the gutter, got a single mother ♪ 2330 01:35:17,450 --> 01:35:19,234 ♪ Nigga, I was broken ♪ 2331 01:35:19,321 --> 01:35:20,845 ♪ Coming from the struggle, niggas had to hustle ♪ 2332 01:35:20,932 --> 01:35:22,716 ♪ Niggas didn't notice ♪ 2333 01:35:22,803 --> 01:35:24,457 ♪ Coming from the struggle, niggas had to hustle ♪ 2334 01:35:24,544 --> 01:35:26,024 ♪ Coming from that soul search ♪ 2335 01:35:26,111 --> 01:35:27,677 ♪ Coming from that soul search ♪ 2336 01:35:27,765 --> 01:35:29,549 ♪ Nigga, I was hoping ♪ 2337 01:35:29,636 --> 01:35:30,768 ♪ Living in the gutter, got a single mother ♪ 2338 01:35:30,855 --> 01:35:32,770 ♪ Nigga, I was broken ♪ 2339 01:35:32,857 --> 01:35:36,208 - Who did the track? You did the track? 2340 01:35:36,295 --> 01:35:40,168 What I hear, what I hear in that is 2341 01:35:40,255 --> 01:35:42,867 who you was, you know what I'm saying? 2342 01:35:42,954 --> 01:35:44,433 - Yeah. - More than anything. 2343 01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,958 - It's basically-- it's just my pain, you feel me? 2344 01:35:47,045 --> 01:35:50,048 And I just put it in the song, so I have it. 2345 01:35:50,135 --> 01:35:51,527 I feel like-- I don't know, man. 2346 01:35:51,614 --> 01:35:54,487 - We've all looked at life like-- 2347 01:35:54,574 --> 01:35:56,881 like this ain't right, this ain't fair. 2348 01:35:56,968 --> 01:35:59,840 And--and how do I get out of here? 2349 01:35:59,927 --> 01:36:01,755 How do I get out of this position? 2350 01:36:01,842 --> 01:36:06,194 I feel hopeless, right? 2351 01:36:06,281 --> 01:36:09,807 But you're saying, "I was hopeless." 2352 01:36:09,894 --> 01:36:11,069 You're not saying "I am hopeless." 2353 01:36:11,156 --> 01:36:12,505 I'm just telling you what I'm hearing 2354 01:36:12,592 --> 01:36:14,855 and what I see in my head. I'm like, wow, this is strong. 2355 01:36:14,942 --> 01:36:16,378 This is powerful. That's a powerful piece. 2356 01:36:16,465 --> 01:36:18,903 That's a dope--that's a dope rhyme, a dope hook. 2357 01:36:18,990 --> 01:36:19,991 - I appreciate that. - You know what I'm saying? 2358 01:36:20,078 --> 01:36:21,340 - Want to hear some more songs? 2359 01:36:21,427 --> 01:36:24,517 - Yeah, yeah. I'm here to hang out with y'all, man. 2360 01:36:24,604 --> 01:36:26,649 But I'm only trying to hear-- pardon my French-- 2361 01:36:26,736 --> 01:36:27,955 I'm only trying to hear dope shit. 2362 01:36:28,042 --> 01:36:30,305 I'm not into--I'm not into-- [laughter] 2363 01:36:30,392 --> 01:36:32,568 - You let me know if it's not. - All right? 2364 01:36:32,655 --> 01:36:34,005 I'ma let y'all know. I'm telling you. 2365 01:36:34,092 --> 01:36:35,354 All right, cool. I'ma let you know. 2366 01:36:35,441 --> 01:36:37,051 A'ight, who's next? 2367 01:36:37,138 --> 01:36:39,488 [indistinct chatter] 2368 01:36:39,575 --> 01:36:40,446 - Talk to me. 2369 01:36:40,533 --> 01:36:41,882 - This you? 2370 01:36:41,969 --> 01:36:44,580 [R&B music playing] 2371 01:36:44,667 --> 01:36:47,583 - ♪ Together forever don't last ♪ 2372 01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:50,630 ♪ I need some energy ♪ 2373 01:36:50,717 --> 01:36:53,676 ♪ I'm running but I ain't that fast ♪ 2374 01:36:53,763 --> 01:36:56,418 - "I'm running but I ain't that fast," whoo! 2375 01:36:56,505 --> 01:36:58,986 - ♪ 'Cause everybody's living it ♪ 2376 01:36:59,073 --> 01:37:01,206 ♪ What's love if it ain't guaranteed? ♪ 2377 01:37:01,293 --> 01:37:03,077 ♪ Don't need no games, no names ♪ 2378 01:37:03,164 --> 01:37:05,906 ♪ Don't need no time wasted ♪ 2379 01:37:05,993 --> 01:37:08,735 ♪ You slept on me, so I vacated ♪ 2380 01:37:08,822 --> 01:37:10,389 ♪ I got no patience ♪ 2381 01:37:10,476 --> 01:37:11,912 ♪ If I get my heart broke again ♪ 2382 01:37:11,999 --> 01:37:14,349 ♪ That's it, I ain't doing it ♪ 2383 01:37:14,436 --> 01:37:19,528 ♪ What's love if it ain't guaranteed ♪ 2384 01:37:19,615 --> 01:37:23,968 [students cheering] 2385 01:37:24,055 --> 01:37:25,665 - Yo, pause that, pause that, pause that. 2386 01:37:25,752 --> 01:37:27,145 That's fucking amazing. 2387 01:37:27,232 --> 01:37:28,102 - Thank you. - You did that. 2388 01:37:28,189 --> 01:37:30,844 - I really-- I really appreciate it. 2389 01:37:30,931 --> 01:37:32,019 - Now, now, hold up, now. 2390 01:37:32,106 --> 01:37:32,759 Real quick, before we move forward-- 2391 01:37:32,846 --> 01:37:34,630 before we move forward-- 2392 01:37:34,717 --> 01:37:35,980 students: ♪ I got no energy ♪ - A'ight? Yo. 2393 01:37:36,067 --> 01:37:38,765 [laughter] 2394 01:37:38,852 --> 01:37:40,636 Now, real quick, real quick, real quick, 2395 01:37:40,723 --> 01:37:42,073 why is this the best song? 2396 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,249 - She put so much emotion into it. 2397 01:37:44,336 --> 01:37:45,511 - she not worried about 2398 01:37:45,598 --> 01:37:47,078 what people doing today. - Yeah. 2399 01:37:47,165 --> 01:37:48,862 - She got the most originality I've ever heard. 2400 01:37:48,949 --> 01:37:50,168 - The track that she chose 2401 01:37:50,255 --> 01:37:52,213 differentiated her from everyone here. 2402 01:37:52,300 --> 01:37:55,173 She was comfortable in her authenticity. 2403 01:37:55,260 --> 01:37:57,088 She was comfortable in who she was. 2404 01:37:57,175 --> 01:37:58,872 And I'm trying to get somewhere, 2405 01:37:58,959 --> 01:38:00,743 but I'm not that fast--whoo! 2406 01:38:00,830 --> 01:38:02,093 - Right? That is hard. 2407 01:38:02,180 --> 01:38:05,835 - Whoo, that's hard. That's hard. 2408 01:38:05,923 --> 01:38:08,229 You keep writing. Yo, you nailed that. 2409 01:38:08,316 --> 01:38:09,578 You nailed that. 2410 01:38:09,665 --> 01:38:10,623 - I want to go next. 2411 01:38:10,710 --> 01:38:11,885 - Oh, you gon' go next? 2412 01:38:11,972 --> 01:38:13,104 - That's the--that's the one. 2413 01:38:13,191 --> 01:38:14,279 - I'ma show you what I wrote. 2414 01:38:14,366 --> 01:38:16,585 - Yeah? You said that like you dead nice. 2415 01:38:16,672 --> 01:38:17,847 OK, here we go. 2416 01:38:17,935 --> 01:38:21,242 [hip hop music playing] 2417 01:38:21,329 --> 01:38:24,506 - [vocalizing] 2418 01:38:24,593 --> 01:38:26,334 - You can hear me now? 2419 01:38:26,421 --> 01:38:29,685 - [indistinct singing] [laughter and chatter] 2420 01:38:29,772 --> 01:38:33,820 - A lot of times, artists and actors and entertainers 2421 01:38:33,907 --> 01:38:36,910 would have you believe that it's magic, but it's not. 2422 01:38:36,997 --> 01:38:39,782 It's the result of efforts. 2423 01:38:39,869 --> 01:38:44,700 Today I have the wherewithal to speak, to help, to share. 2424 01:38:44,787 --> 01:38:45,919 [laughter] 2425 01:38:46,006 --> 01:38:47,399 - Something that's already there. 2426 01:38:47,486 --> 01:38:50,141 - Sometimes just giving a compliment 2427 01:38:50,228 --> 01:38:51,969 or a constructive criticism 2428 01:38:52,056 --> 01:38:53,796 is exactly what's needed. 2429 01:38:53,883 --> 01:38:55,581 You play that over there, man. 2430 01:38:55,668 --> 01:38:57,713 You and Iyanna are the Black Sheep of your class. 2431 01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,367 We're all the product of 2432 01:38:59,454 --> 01:39:02,980 some really horrific events, as a community. 2433 01:39:03,067 --> 01:39:06,026 It's important that we start bridging some of the gaps 2434 01:39:06,113 --> 01:39:07,549 between the generations. 2435 01:39:07,636 --> 01:39:08,681 I expect big things from y'all. 2436 01:39:08,768 --> 01:39:10,465 Oh, my pleasure. 2437 01:39:10,552 --> 01:39:14,774 They're the seeds to beautiful flowers in the future. 2438 01:39:15,949 --> 01:39:18,386 [cheering] - Okay. 2439 01:39:18,473 --> 01:39:21,781 [chatter] 2440 01:39:21,868 --> 01:39:23,478 - Good song, brother. Good song. 2441 01:39:25,437 --> 01:39:27,743 [radio static] 2442 01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:30,137 - Yes, yes, yes, citizens. 2443 01:39:30,224 --> 01:39:32,444 It's a new year. 2444 01:39:32,531 --> 01:39:34,576 They say patience is a virtue. If that's the truth, 2445 01:39:34,663 --> 01:39:35,925 this is the most virtuous person 2446 01:39:36,013 --> 01:39:37,492 you gon' see on the mic today, 2447 01:39:37,579 --> 01:39:39,364 the next big thing in hip hop, 2448 01:39:39,451 --> 01:39:41,148 the one and only Lola Brooke is here. 2449 01:39:41,235 --> 01:39:43,933 Give her a big round of applause. 2450 01:39:44,021 --> 01:39:46,632 - Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn! 2451 01:39:46,719 --> 01:39:49,156 - Damn, man. I was nervous when I saw you in the lobby. 2452 01:39:49,243 --> 01:39:51,202 - For real? - Yeah, man, honestly. 2453 01:39:51,289 --> 01:39:53,117 - No, no! 2454 01:39:53,204 --> 01:39:57,121 - My man Sav sent me Lola's new song called "Just Relax." 2455 01:39:57,208 --> 01:40:00,472 Immediately, after I listened to it, like, what? 2456 01:40:00,559 --> 01:40:03,040 How did she pick this sample? 2457 01:40:03,127 --> 01:40:04,650 "This or That" by Black Sheep, 2458 01:40:04,737 --> 01:40:06,391 shout-out to Mista Lawnge and Dres. 2459 01:40:06,478 --> 01:40:08,306 This was a huge hit in the '90s, 2460 01:40:08,393 --> 01:40:10,699 and then you're making it a huge hit in 2023. 2461 01:40:10,786 --> 01:40:13,311 This is "Just Relax." Phone lines are open. 2462 01:40:13,398 --> 01:40:15,835 Lola Brooke is here. 888-7423. 2463 01:40:15,922 --> 01:40:17,619 - See, the 1,200s is full power, though. 2464 01:40:17,706 --> 01:40:20,405 [indistinct chatter] 2465 01:40:20,492 --> 01:40:23,408 - Today we shooting my video, "Just Relax," you know. 2466 01:40:23,495 --> 01:40:25,714 I'm not relaxing, though, because I'm working. 2467 01:40:25,801 --> 01:40:27,368 - All right, guys, last look. That's it. Last looks. 2468 01:40:27,455 --> 01:40:28,413 We're about to roll. - Last looks. 2469 01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:31,807 This is really a legendary sample 2470 01:40:31,894 --> 01:40:33,635 from the legendary song. 2471 01:40:33,722 --> 01:40:36,247 So I kinda was scared to touch it because 2472 01:40:36,334 --> 01:40:37,987 a lot of people would be like, oh-- 2473 01:40:38,075 --> 01:40:41,339 my mom would say, "girl, that right there, 2474 01:40:41,426 --> 01:40:43,645 when I was your age, we was outside." 2475 01:40:43,732 --> 01:40:46,257 And I'm like, oh, my God. - Roll camera. 2476 01:40:46,344 --> 01:40:47,301 - And playback. 2477 01:40:47,388 --> 01:40:49,216 - Yes, so good. 2478 01:40:50,522 --> 01:40:53,568 all: Girl! 2479 01:40:53,655 --> 01:40:55,222 [Lola Brooke's "Just Relax" playing] 2480 01:40:55,309 --> 01:40:57,616 - ♪ Bitches wan' be this 'cause I was always that ♪ 2481 01:40:57,703 --> 01:40:59,531 ♪ Niggas say they rich? Let's keep it a stack ♪ 2482 01:40:59,618 --> 01:41:02,099 ♪ I ain't with the tic, I be moving tac ♪ 2483 01:41:02,186 --> 01:41:03,143 ♪ Bitches say they it ♪ 2484 01:41:03,230 --> 01:41:05,363 ♪ Man, bitch, just relax ♪ 2485 01:41:05,450 --> 01:41:06,668 - Big record for you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2486 01:41:06,755 --> 01:41:08,757 No doubt, no doubt. I feel good about it, too. 2487 01:41:08,844 --> 01:41:15,590 Like it's--I've had people try to use the record. 2488 01:41:15,677 --> 01:41:18,332 And like, people always ask me to kinda do something 2489 01:41:18,419 --> 01:41:21,335 with them with it and, I mean, like, mm-mm. 2490 01:41:21,422 --> 01:41:23,076 Like, nah. Like, you know, like, 2491 01:41:23,163 --> 01:41:24,251 I would never mess with it 2492 01:41:24,338 --> 01:41:26,384 because it's always been right. 2493 01:41:26,471 --> 01:41:28,777 - ♪ Man, bitch, just relax ♪ 2494 01:41:28,864 --> 01:41:31,519 - But this is the only one that I've actually thought 2495 01:41:31,606 --> 01:41:34,522 had a chance of, you know, being successful 2496 01:41:34,609 --> 01:41:36,350 that I was like, okay, I fuck with that. 2497 01:41:36,437 --> 01:41:37,917 - ♪ Taking pictures like bitches ♪ 2498 01:41:38,004 --> 01:41:40,572 - All right, that's what's up. - Got it. 2499 01:41:40,659 --> 01:41:42,008 - Just want to say hello to you, lady. 2500 01:41:42,095 --> 01:41:44,532 - Oh, my God! - I'm so happy for you. 2501 01:41:44,619 --> 01:41:46,621 You over here doing tremendous things. 2502 01:41:46,708 --> 01:41:47,970 - Thank you for coming! - You're killing it. 2503 01:41:48,057 --> 01:41:49,276 - Oh, you like it? - I love it. 2504 01:41:49,363 --> 01:41:50,756 I'm over there looking at you, going-- 2505 01:41:50,843 --> 01:41:52,540 - As long as you love it. - I love it. I love it. 2506 01:41:52,627 --> 01:41:55,108 You are literally the only person that I feel, 2507 01:41:55,195 --> 01:41:57,241 like, did something with it. 2508 01:41:57,328 --> 01:41:59,112 I love what you're doing. - Really? 2509 01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:01,375 - And that's no bullshit. I love it. 2510 01:42:01,462 --> 01:42:03,334 - Oh, that's a good day for me, man, for real. 2511 01:42:03,421 --> 01:42:05,249 - Man, you got a lot of good days ahead of you, lady. 2512 01:42:05,336 --> 01:42:06,554 - Oh, stone cold shit. - Keep doing what you're doing. 2513 01:42:06,641 --> 01:42:09,688 You know what I'm saying? 2514 01:42:09,775 --> 01:42:11,559 - Dres is here at the video shoot. 2515 01:42:11,646 --> 01:42:14,867 This is really a legendary situation. 2516 01:42:14,954 --> 01:42:15,911 - Yo, keep rocking out. 2517 01:42:15,998 --> 01:42:17,174 I'm here-- - Are you here? 2518 01:42:17,261 --> 01:42:18,740 - Yeah, yeah, I ain't going nowhere. 2519 01:42:18,827 --> 01:42:20,394 - I couldn't ask for anything better than 2520 01:42:20,481 --> 01:42:23,615 the support from Dres, for real, for real. 2521 01:42:23,702 --> 01:42:26,052 - I'm right here. I'm right here. I'm coming. 2522 01:42:26,139 --> 01:42:27,009 - All right, we're ready to reset. 2523 01:42:27,096 --> 01:42:29,011 Let's reset, reset, reset. 2524 01:42:29,098 --> 01:42:30,578 [Lola Brooke's "Just Relax" playing] 2525 01:42:30,665 --> 01:42:32,841 - ♪ A pricey lil' thing, they be ducking the fee♪ 2526 01:42:32,928 --> 01:42:35,192 ♪ Chasing after checks, they be running to me ♪ 2527 01:42:35,279 --> 01:42:37,194 ♪ Your man is the bro, we ain't fucking, sis, please ♪ 2528 01:42:37,281 --> 01:42:39,718 - Woah, woah! - Feels dope. 2529 01:42:39,805 --> 01:42:40,719 Dope energy. 2530 01:42:40,806 --> 01:42:43,765 ♪ ♪ 2531 01:42:43,852 --> 01:42:45,376 That was hard. 2532 01:42:49,293 --> 01:42:51,164 - Yeah. Every time it was action, 2533 01:42:51,251 --> 01:42:52,818 we was--we was--we was that. 2534 01:42:55,212 --> 01:42:56,952 One of--one of the things that we did 2535 01:42:57,039 --> 01:43:00,565 with "The Choice Is Yours" was we intentionally went down. 2536 01:43:00,652 --> 01:43:02,784 What you doing right now, going side to side, 2537 01:43:02,871 --> 01:43:05,091 pick a part of the record-- - I was just about to say that. 2538 01:43:05,178 --> 01:43:06,962 - Pick the same part every time. 2539 01:43:07,049 --> 01:43:09,574 - This to then--got you. - A'ight? 2540 01:43:09,661 --> 01:43:11,532 - I just was saying it to myself, like, 2541 01:43:11,619 --> 01:43:13,752 I gotta do the side-- - But you gotta-- 2542 01:43:13,839 --> 01:43:15,232 But pick the part. Pick the part, okay? 2543 01:43:15,319 --> 01:43:17,016 Pick the part in your head, 2544 01:43:17,103 --> 01:43:18,583 and keep it the same, all right? 2545 01:43:18,670 --> 01:43:19,584 - I got you, I promise. Watch it. 2546 01:43:19,671 --> 01:43:21,281 - No, no. OK, cool. 2547 01:43:21,368 --> 01:43:23,501 Yo, the energy is the same as 2548 01:43:23,588 --> 01:43:25,459 when I did mine-- - When you was doing it? 2549 01:43:25,546 --> 01:43:28,027 - Except y'all are all girls. We was all boys. 2550 01:43:28,114 --> 01:43:30,421 - Oh, all right. Well, we gon' eat y'all up. 2551 01:43:30,508 --> 01:43:33,032 - You know I'm saying? That's what's up. 2552 01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:36,992 Word up. Y'all balancing it out. 2553 01:43:37,079 --> 01:43:40,822 - ♪ Crazy 'bout mines, better know how to fight ♪ 2554 01:43:40,909 --> 01:43:41,954 - I got left. 2555 01:43:42,041 --> 01:43:43,434 On my right. 2556 01:43:43,521 --> 01:43:44,783 To the left. 2557 01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:46,524 Right. 2558 01:43:46,611 --> 01:43:49,222 Left! ♪ Bitch, just relax ♪ 2559 01:43:49,309 --> 01:43:51,746 - Cut. [cheering] 2560 01:43:51,833 --> 01:43:53,487 - I'm Dres. Peace, man. - Nice to meet you. 2561 01:43:53,574 --> 01:43:54,009 - Nice to meet you, as well. - Nice to meet you. 2562 01:43:54,096 --> 01:43:55,750 So we're gonna do-- 2563 01:43:55,837 --> 01:43:56,882 we're gonna do a little close up right here, 2564 01:43:56,969 --> 01:43:58,144 and then we're gonna do a wide. 2565 01:43:58,231 --> 01:43:59,493 And I want to have you come in that one. 2566 01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:00,451 - Okay, sounds good. - So we're gonna do 2567 01:44:00,538 --> 01:44:01,408 a little quick movement on her 2568 01:44:01,495 --> 01:44:03,628 then let you guys vibe out. 2569 01:44:03,715 --> 01:44:05,499 - Sounds cool. All right. 2570 01:44:05,586 --> 01:44:08,720 [all cheering] 2571 01:44:08,807 --> 01:44:13,420 [chanting] 2572 01:44:24,997 --> 01:44:27,608 - Being a artist, it's always a good feeling to know that 2573 01:44:27,695 --> 01:44:30,307 the ones that was here before you actually accept you, 2574 01:44:30,394 --> 01:44:32,396 and they're willing to guide you 2575 01:44:32,483 --> 01:44:34,833 and let you know what is there to be expected. 2576 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:36,835 I'm so grateful. 2577 01:44:36,922 --> 01:44:39,794 [resonant music] 2578 01:44:39,881 --> 01:44:41,535 ♪ ♪ 2579 01:44:41,622 --> 01:44:46,323 - Music allows you to carry something with you. 2580 01:44:46,410 --> 01:44:48,020 Like, how I play "The Choice Is Yours," 2581 01:44:48,107 --> 01:44:50,239 she's gonna wind up playing her song for years, 2582 01:44:50,327 --> 01:44:52,198 and years, and years. 2583 01:44:52,285 --> 01:44:54,026 And, at some point, someone's gonna 2584 01:44:54,113 --> 01:44:56,158 want to do something with her version, 2585 01:44:56,245 --> 01:44:58,813 if she's fortunate. I was fortunate. 2586 01:44:58,900 --> 01:45:03,731 ♪ ♪ 2587 01:45:03,818 --> 01:45:06,604 - When you think about what hip hop is, 2588 01:45:06,691 --> 01:45:10,564 which is this incredible genre and culture 2589 01:45:10,651 --> 01:45:13,698 that is inherently, by its very nature, 2590 01:45:13,785 --> 01:45:15,917 based on past music, 2591 01:45:16,004 --> 01:45:19,138 like, that is what it is at its core... 2592 01:45:19,225 --> 01:45:21,009 - That's hard. That is hard! 2593 01:45:21,096 --> 01:45:24,535 - whether it's Lola Brooke sampling "The Choice Is Yours" 2594 01:45:24,622 --> 01:45:27,886 or Dres rapping over Dilla, 2595 01:45:27,973 --> 01:45:30,541 it's like, music has a moment, and then it cycles around. 2596 01:45:30,628 --> 01:45:32,020 It's gone for a long time, and then it's like, 2597 01:45:32,107 --> 01:45:33,848 whoa, it's back. 2598 01:45:33,935 --> 01:45:37,417 It's sort of like dying and going back into the earth. 2599 01:45:37,504 --> 01:45:39,245 - That's what immortality is, 2600 01:45:39,332 --> 01:45:42,857 when people are still talking about you when you're gone. 2601 01:45:42,944 --> 01:45:44,729 - That's how we supposed to be. 2602 01:45:44,816 --> 01:45:46,557 - Your spirit and your energy still lives on, 2603 01:45:46,644 --> 01:45:48,994 and that's what gives you life. 2604 01:45:49,081 --> 01:45:51,083 - The torch--the torch is officially yours, all right? 2605 01:45:51,170 --> 01:45:52,650 - Oh, thank you! 2606 01:45:52,737 --> 01:45:54,042 - The torch is officially yours. 2607 01:45:54,129 --> 01:45:57,611 - So many of our vets are always thinking about 2608 01:45:57,698 --> 01:46:00,919 the next album or the next tour 2609 01:46:01,006 --> 01:46:03,574 or when they're finally gonna get back to 2610 01:46:03,661 --> 01:46:06,490 where they were back when. 2611 01:46:06,577 --> 01:46:09,493 Is it really more about just this? 2612 01:46:09,580 --> 01:46:10,755 - Keep doing it, you know what I'm saying? 2613 01:46:10,842 --> 01:46:12,365 - Thank you. - This is just the beginning. 2614 01:46:12,452 --> 01:46:14,019 Keep doing it. - Just the beginning. 2615 01:46:14,106 --> 01:46:16,804 - It's the idea that your music can continue 2616 01:46:16,891 --> 01:46:18,197 to create more music... 2617 01:46:18,284 --> 01:46:20,808 - When I say Lola, you say Brooke. 2618 01:46:20,895 --> 01:46:23,202 - Entering sort of that ecosystem. 2619 01:46:23,289 --> 01:46:25,030 - Drive safe, bro. - Oh, you, too. 2620 01:46:25,117 --> 01:46:26,466 Love is love, man, for real. 2621 01:46:26,553 --> 01:46:27,641 - Yo, I just wanna say thanks, Dres, man. 2622 01:46:27,728 --> 01:46:29,600 You know what I'm saying? We made this-- 2623 01:46:29,687 --> 01:46:31,732 we definitely made this happen. - Yeah, man. Yo, yo. 2624 01:46:31,819 --> 01:46:33,821 - I told you when we was talking. 2625 01:46:33,908 --> 01:46:35,475 - Everyone always wants to have that next moment. 2626 01:46:35,562 --> 01:46:37,390 Everyone wants to get their flowers. 2627 01:46:37,477 --> 01:46:39,784 But sometimes maybe the flowers are being given to you 2628 01:46:39,871 --> 01:46:42,656 and you're not even looking that direction. 2629 01:46:42,743 --> 01:46:43,831 - You know what's gon' be the best part? 2630 01:46:43,918 --> 01:46:48,445 When the kid is playing Lola's verse, 2631 01:46:48,532 --> 01:46:51,012 and their parent is saying, "no, this is--" 2632 01:46:51,099 --> 01:46:53,145 and the kid going to be like, "you hear that? No, no, no." 2633 01:46:53,232 --> 01:46:55,234 Or the parents play theirs, 2634 01:46:55,321 --> 01:46:56,888 and they be like, "oh, that's Lola Brooke." 2635 01:46:56,975 --> 01:46:58,716 They be like, no, no, no. Let me hear your Dres. 2636 01:46:58,803 --> 01:47:01,066 Like, oh, that was Dres? - I love that about it. 2637 01:47:01,153 --> 01:47:03,677 Oh, yeah, you know how they do. - Yeah, I know. 2638 01:47:03,764 --> 01:47:05,070 - You know how they do. Oh, yeah, yeah. 2639 01:47:05,157 --> 01:47:06,463 - I gotta go deal with this. - Yeah, yeah. 2640 01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:09,814 Make sure everything good. I'll talk to you. 2641 01:47:09,901 --> 01:47:12,817 Them boys be pulling up on the set... 2642 01:47:12,904 --> 01:47:15,254 [indistinct chatter] 2643 01:47:15,341 --> 01:47:19,171 And there'd be times like this where... 2644 01:47:19,258 --> 01:47:21,869 brother like myself... 2645 01:47:21,956 --> 01:47:23,828 exit stage left. 2646 01:47:23,915 --> 01:47:26,787 [chill music] 2647 01:47:26,874 --> 01:47:28,441 ♪ ♪ 2648 01:47:28,528 --> 01:47:30,791 - Yo, just--cops out here. 2649 01:47:30,878 --> 01:47:37,494 ♪ ♪ 2650 01:47:45,719 --> 01:47:47,634 - Big up yourselves, word up. 2651 01:47:47,721 --> 01:47:50,550 Y'all got it going on. [cheering] 2652 01:47:50,637 --> 01:47:52,726 Now, normally, normally, you hear "The Choice Is Yours," 2653 01:47:52,813 --> 01:47:55,076 that's, like, the end of my shit. 2654 01:47:55,163 --> 01:47:56,513 But I got a project coming out 2655 01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:57,992 that's gon' blow all y'all minds, 2656 01:47:58,079 --> 01:48:01,300 completely produced by J Dilla, for real. 2657 01:48:01,387 --> 01:48:03,824 So maybe we'll introduce a little bit of it to y'all, 2658 01:48:03,911 --> 01:48:06,131 you know what I'm saying? Why not? 2659 01:48:06,218 --> 01:48:12,877 - ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2660 01:48:12,964 --> 01:48:16,054 ♪ ♪ 2661 01:48:16,141 --> 01:48:22,843 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2662 01:48:22,930 --> 01:48:25,977 ♪ ♪ 2663 01:48:26,064 --> 01:48:32,766 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2664 01:48:32,853 --> 01:48:36,074 ♪ ♪ 2665 01:48:36,161 --> 01:48:42,863 ♪ I, baby, don't need your love ♪ 2666 01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:45,170 ♪ ♪ 2667 01:48:45,257 --> 01:48:50,044 ♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪ 2668 01:48:50,131 --> 01:48:54,745 ♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪ 2669 01:48:54,832 --> 01:48:59,532 ♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪ 2670 01:48:59,619 --> 01:49:02,753 ♪ With this love ♪ 2671 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,930 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2672 01:49:06,017 --> 01:49:08,715 [electric guitar sting, record scratches]