ANDY COHEN: Tonight on Part 3
of "The Valley" Season 2 Reunion...
Did you befriend people
like Scheana and Kristen to get on TV?
I feel like the way you're framing this
makes it sound like I have, like, "Good As Gold" posters
all over my childhood bedroom.
No, I think that you're trying to be someone that you're not.
Who's Frank Dremon?
[laughter]
- Frank Dremon. - Frank Dremon.
I didn't know you guys before cameras.
Okay, you weren't the first couple to come over
and meet our children, our daughters,
when they were born. - Exactly. Exactly.
So, don't you dare say we weren't friends.
We didn't know you before filming.
- Before filming. - Like a month or so?
That's wrong. Again, more lies.
If your girlfriend showed up today, you know what I would do?
Okay, I--
Stick a mic on her and get her in here.
- Yup. Amen. - Amen.
- That's how it works. - I wanna talk to her.
Bring her out.
♪
ANDY: Part 3 of "The Valley" Reunion starts now.
On the "After Show," you said something like,
"Oh, I can't believe it was brought up again,"
like I was bringing something-- - By Janet.
You are a clown, dude. You're a total clown.
- You better never-- - Are you kidding me?
Blame everybody. Blame everybody.
You know what? I'm actually glad I've talked about it
a lot because... - That's what--
No, just blame her, actually.
...it's happened multiple times since.
You're saying that he has touched other women's butts?
He's been inappropriate and made women uncomfortable
multiple times since...
- Janet, that's a lie. - That's a lie!
And you're really good at lying.
You're making it sound like he is going out
and grabbing women when he drinks, and that's wrong.
Until the behavior stops,
I don't feel bad talking about this stuff.
And there's a couple people on this stage that know about it.
- What? - What?
- Michelle. - So... Brittany--
- Aw, sh--. - ...you mentioned that
you were--you felt uncomfortable on your birthday around Danny.
- Yeah, she did say that. - Well, Danny did get
pretty drunk, and you were, like, following me around...
[laughs] for a little bit, but you didn't, like, make--
you didn't, like... - Did I--
- ...touch on me or nothing. - Of course.
His personality just very much changed.
- Okay. - And he started being
very flirtatious.
I don't really know how to explain it,
but it wasn't that same kind as what it was on Halloween.
- So I think that's important... - Right.
- ANDY: Well, I do, too. - ...to specify, because
the way Janet talks about it. - Well, that's why I said--
You just said he grabbed people.
No, I didn't say he grabbed people.
Yeah, you did. He said he did the same thing.
He's done things other times.
It wasn't just Jasmine and Melissa.
Danny, Jasmine said in Santa Barbara that she knows
you have a drinking problem.
Do you think you have a drinking problem?
[chuckles]
The only reason I said I know you have one
is because of what you did.
You know, I felt like there has to be
some kind of issue or something with alcohol.
Do you think you have a drinking problem?
No, I actually haven't had a drink in a few weeks.
Everybody on the stage has issues with alcohol,
to be honest with you.
- Huh? - Well, let me ask you this.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - The fact that you won't
even admit that you have any issues with it...
- Jason. - ...that's not normal!
So do you have a drinking problem?
It's a battle for me. If I'm gonna choose to drink,
it's something that every time I have to think about it.
You can't say everyone on this stage has a problem
with alcohol. - [sighs]
That's just such a bold-ass statement
to make about everybody.
Well, I guess I've never hung out with Andy.
[laughter]
I didn't wanna get all worked up and, like,
make this a thing 'cause they're good people.
- Sober. - I didn't want this.
Like, they have a beautiful family.
You just called me a clown.
- No, he is a... - JESSE: He's not a clown.
- You're name-calling. - You're right.
That was immature. I shouldn't have called you a name.
I could say not one of us think that you're, like, a bad person.
I think it was these certain incidents
that you just acted out of your character.
Okay. Rumors about Jason ditching his wedding band
was one ring toss game that Janet refused to play.
I heard a rumor that a year ago or so
Jasmine heard that you take your ring off sometimes at bars.
[blows raspberry] Never.
Jasmine, Jason thinks you made up the ring rumor.
How did you feel accused of this by someone
that you were such pals with?
I was just hurt that the fact you thought
that I really would go out of my way to make up
a rumor about you taking off your ring.
First of all, that's the worst wack rumor
I've ever heard in my life. Like, are you kidding me?
ZACK: Because obviously, no one believe it right off the bat.
Like, the wackest-- the wackest rumor.
Like, give me more respect.
I could do way better than that.
And maybe it was my fault for speaking on it
when I was in frustration with Janet,
but I didn't make this up, and I didn't lie.
I-I was so surprised,
weeks after I thought this had been put to bed,
by seeing, Janet, you and Jason going to get the ring tattoos
to debunk a rumor that you said you didn't care about.
It was not necessarily to debunk.
It was also, like, once this is out,
it feels like a can of worms. You can't put it back.
And it was like, I've been telling Jason,
Jason has never had a tattoo before this.
I wanted him to get one. It felt like kind of a fun excuse to,
like, make light of it. - Make fun of themselves.
Make fun of ourselves, make fun of the situation.
And I've kind of always wanted a wedding band tattoo.
I thought it was cool, and so we had a day of it.
Zack, you said it was comical that Janet and Jason
laughed off the ring rumor at the shark party
but later made a big deal of it.
- Why do you think they did that? - I mean, I think they were like,
"Oh, well, I guess this is our storyline."
And I think they went home and thought about it.
At first, it's like, I'm laughing this off
'cause I know it's not true. - Right.
But it also made me realize, like,
oh, our friendship is not getting to a better place.
Like, that's not gonna help us get to a peaceful place
this summer, and I was bummed about that.
And also, it was a joke that, like, Jason and I have
a pretty calm, boring marriage in that sense, like--
So now you're relevant. [chuckles]
Do you owe Kristen an apology for making you relevant?
[laughs]
No.
I mean, this is gonna be out there publicly.
People are gonna be questioning his character.
- You have to own up to that. - People--People don't care.
The only people that perpetuated this the whole summer long
were you two. - LUKE: No one talked about it
but you two. - Not one person.
- Well-- - I don't mean this
in an asshole way, but it's literally you're not important
for fans to care that much about.
But after the shark party, when you guys both laughed,
I looked right at you and I said I was just being an asshole.
I said it out loud because I was super frustrated
because I thought you were going after Daniel so hard.
You hurt my friends. I came after you.
I told you that to your face. The four of us sat down.
Jason, you roll your eyes. I'm being honest.
We hurt your friends.
What are you talking about, we hurt your friends?
You guys said I'm attacking them.
- "What are you talking about?" - JASON: Yeah.
- [laughs] - We're gonna get into that.
I told you to your face I was just trying to be a bitch.
But why are we not allowed to be mad about you being a bitch?
It's not that you're not allowed to be mad, but you guys would
not shut the [bleep] up about it for the whole entire summer.
We weren't even talking to you about it.
I was actually more upset at Jasmine
over this ring thing because I-- as her being the source,
all three of us had an amazing friendship.
- I know. - You guys say that
I make sh-- up, though. - We weren't even
going after you, though, during the season,
- I watched the show, Jason. - JASON: So did I.
- You called me a liar. - It was kind of
a sh--ty thing to say. - And you said my reputation
and sh-- like that. I do not have a reputation
of making things up or being a liar.
- Exaggerating. Exaggerating. - I have a reputation for
uncovering the truth and not exaggerating.
- ANDY: Is that your reputation? - Uncovering the truth?
- Yes. - And inserting myself in places
that are none of my business. - Blurting things out.
Not being a liar, not exaggerating,
not my reputation.
Jasmine, at the beach, you screamed at Janet,
saying that she was a sh--ass friend,
she's a vibe killer, and she gives Karen energy.
What did Janet do that made you so mad?
Um... I wanted to talk to Jason,
and as I'm talking to Jason, Janet's just spitting at me
like, "You're a snake. You're a liar."
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That didn't happen.
- You go, "Snake." - If they have that footage,
they should roll it, because I do not remember saying that.
Janet, you were like this. You're like, "Snake, liar."
You were standing here-- You were like this.
- I did not say that. - "Snake, liar."
If they have that footage, they should show it.
That's why I was like, "Let me talk." You wouldn't let me talk.
- They will. - I would love that.
Because it didn't happen. It didn't happen.
Please.
The ring thing, I heard it years ago.
I didn't care then, and I don't care now.
- How many years ago? - Let me finish, Janet.
You're not cutting me off 'cause this is what you do.
- Let's--done, done, done. - Janet.
You have been a sh--ass friend. You are a----ing vibe killer.
You're exhausting. You give Karen energy.
And I'm----ing done with it. We're done! We're done!
- No. - Yes, you did.
- He did. - I called you a snake.
The biggest snake in the grass was under my nose
the whole time. - Okay, yes.
- I'm the biggest snake. - They're leaving?
Ooh, big deal.
Anyway, you wouldn't let me speak in that moment.
And I was just like, "Let me speak to Jason,
explain to him the situation. - Jason, were you surprised
to see Jasmine get upset with you guys like that?
I mean, I think my face in that scene showed it.
I was--I was shocked by that.
Do you feel like you were manipulated at all?
Was I?
- Um... - ZACK: By who?
Me?
- Manipulated by people? - Yes.
This season, watching it back?
I don't think so, no.
Who do you think she was manipulated by--Kristen?
Listen, I watched the show.
It looked to me like Kristen doesn't like Janet.
So she's talking to people and saying like...
- No. - "This is Janet. This is Janet.
This is Janet." Janet was like the scapegoat for everyone.
I watched the show. You guys were the ones
talking about Janet. - What show did you watch?
DANNY: I know. You watched as her husband.
- [laughter] - I swear to God. [laughs]
What the [bleep] show were you watching?
♪
ANDY: Coming up on "The Valley" Reunion...
You said you fired everyone from Season 1...
[laughter]
...because you didn't like your edit.
I don't have that kind of control.
- We know! - We know that!
[laughter]
♪
Will you lead us in a prayer, Brittany, later?
Yeah, sure. [laughs]
- Your hair looks great. - Thank you. [giggles]
Very pretty. Your hair looks good too, Jax.
I'm not happy with it, but it's okay.
Jax, can we admit now that the hair loss party you had,
you didn't have a bald spot?
I did. Look.
Zack might be able to introduce you to a good wig guy.
[laughs]
We are back with "The Valley" Season 2 Reunion.
Jasmine, we've seen you yell at Janet
and then make up with Janet.
How do you really feel about her?
Listen, I have been friends with her the longest
out of everybody here,
and she's always gonna be like family--family to me.
You know, like, I feel like you fight
with your siblings, you fight with your friends.
That's just what we do.
I fight with Zack all the----ing time.
But I just want you to know there was never, like,
"Oh, my God, I hate Janet" type of thing.
I think there's different layers of issues that we have
that we need to, like, talk about, because, like,
our friendship hasn't been the same.
Like, we don't talk at all, you know? And that does hurt.
But I don't hate you. There's no, like... there.
You know, I think there's a lot of love there.
Melissa made a good point.
We were watching, and, um, you guys were crying
in your house, and I was crying at home.
[crying] I just, like, don't understand what's going on.
[Cameron babbles]
Jasmine's been a close friend for many years,
and I feel like she's discarding our friendship.
She doesn't have the same care for me that I have for her.
So it's honestly really sad.
Melissa's like, "See, there's love there.
You guys, like, clearly love each other," and I know that--
There's love, but there's still sh--talking, Jasmine. Come on.
Of course. No, there is, and I think the problem is, like--
We have a group chat that you just talk sh--.
No, I get that. I am upset with her,
and I said that there's things that we need to talk about.
KRISTEN: So, like, you have to be fair about that.
- Yes, I know that. - You do talk sh-- about her.
It was just kind of like a buildup of things,
and I think I let--I let-- - Janet stopped
acting like herself? - Yes, a little bit.
Don't say that. That's not true.
And I let a lot of things brush under the rug with us.
And like I said, that's my fault. Yes.
Well, I wish you would have come to me as a friend.
And I'm saying I should have came to you and be like,
"Hey, I have this issue," but at the time, I kind of
just felt like, what is the point?
Because I didn't think it would get to you.
Who here thinks Janet's a Karen?
I don't--okay, here's my thing. It was Karen energy.
KRISTEN: She said Karen energy. She didn't say she's a Karen.
I didn't call her a Karen. It was the energy was giving,
and I think it was just more of, like, just exhausted of you,
like, the whole Zack stuff and, like, Kristen
and just hearing things, and I should have maybe came
to you and be like, "Hey, this is how I feel." I didn't.
It's clear that the three of you care about each other...
- Yes, of course. - ...a lot, so are you three
good right now? - We're at a place, you know,
when we see each other, that we're cordial.
Um, I have nothing... [sighs]
[voice breaking] I have nothing bad to say about you or Melissa.
I have a lot of love for you guys.
I think you guys are great people.
The hardest thing about this for me was that
I do like you guys so much.
You guys are the people that come over in sweatpants and cook
and play games and, like... - Yeah.
...you guys are real friends, you know?
- Yeah. - I miss you guys.
Yeah. I mean, our relationship's not the same like it used to be.
Let's keep that real, 100.
You know, but, I mean, maybe one day? I don't know.
- I would hope so, and... - Yeah.
...I think we all feel that way.
Okay. All right. Um, after a 30-day stint,
Jax left the mental health treatment facility
and seemed intent on picking up
right where he left off with the group.
Now, Jax, the night before you returned home,
some of your friends rebranded your bar, uh, Britt's Bar.
Oh, my God! Shut up!
ALL: Welcome to Britt's!
[cheers and applause]
[laughs]
You were upset when you found out about that, right?
I mean, who-- who wouldn't be upset?
I mean, was it-- I understand why they did it,
but taking my signs and throwing it in the garbage
was a little much. - That was a different situation.
That wasn't my party? Or your party?
It wasn't Britt's Bar.
It was whenever me and Jasmine went to talk to Schwartz,
and I was telling them everything
that you had just done. - And I wasn't there for that.
No, you weren't there for any of it.
It was really, uh, it was hurtful, obviously, and just--
By the way, they were trying to prop her up was the point of it.
No, I understand. I understand. So--
- It was all very positive. - Maybe if you saw
their intention was trying to help her out of a--
I understand, but it's still hurtful.
The bar never got to be about her, and she worked
so hard on it and put money into it.
- More than you. - And it's all about you.
Even when you were in rehab, I was keeping that place afloat.
Zack, are you allowed into Jax's bar?
- No. - It's really funny that Jax has
such this animosity towards just me or can forgive anybody else.
But what I wanna say is I used to be the biggest Jax apologist.
I was there every single time when she was broken down,
and I had to pick her up, or when he would break down,
and I would hold him while he cried.
And for him to turn so hard on her and on me
just out of nowhere, it just shows--
It's the stuff you're saying on social media.
I mean, what do you want me to do?
Okay, yeah. The things I say on social media, excuse me,
are literally not even remotely close
to what I would say about you if I was,
like, right now, to your face.
I-I don't care, though. You're nobody to me.
- I don't care. - I actually miss our friendship.
I don't care what you have to say.
And I think--I want you to be a better person.
I don't really care what you want.
And you wanna prove that you don't have
this control issue, that you can be better,
then work on it with the people that are in her life.
- Yeah. - I agree.
Is Frank Dremon allowed in your bar?
- [laughter] - Who?
Have you seen any of the episodes?
Did you know that we talked about it on the show?
- You didn't watch the show. - I don't know.
Frank Dremon.
- He doesn't get it! - We've all seen the show. Yeah.
You haven't. He's the only person here that hasn't watched,
so he has no idea what he's talking about.
- He doesn't watch the show. - Oh, my--my, uh, my, uh,
my burner account? - Hold on, hold on.
- Who's Frank Dremon? - Frank Drebin from "Naked Gun."
- Oh. - You ever seen "Naked Gun"?
- And--And who is Frank Dremon? - It's my burner account, yeah.
- It's your burner account. - We outed you.
- ANDY: She outed you. - It's not a big deal, you know?
- You don't know what you did. - [laughter]
You commented on some post about you
and said, "Jax is the man." - Huh?
- "Legend. Jax is the show." - "Jax is a legend."
JANET: "What man wouldn't feel this way?"
BRITTANY: "What man wouldn't feel this way about himself?
He is the legend." - That ego.
That was honestly the most fun I had all summer.
That was hilarious.
Like, at least do it under your real name.
And then you DM'd me on accident from the account.
So it was, like, proof that it was yours.
Oh, my God. That was the best part.
- ANDY: Jax. - Whatever.
Come on. Don't you know if you have a burner, you just look?
Are you still commenting as Frank "Dre-mon"?
No, I haven't used that account in a while, actually.
- But, uh, it's Dremon. - Dremon. Frank Dremon?
It's Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun."
- Oh, my God. - Don't butcher his burner name.
- Dre-mon sounds better, though. - Frank Dremon. It's Dremon.
- Frank Dremon. - Um, Jax, Brittany said
you were selling one of her Jenny Craig bags on eBay.
JAX: Yeah.
So funny. In one of his eBay listings,
you can see his bunion.
- [bell dings] - [laughter]
I sold a bunch of stuff on eBay.
- Did you? - So I've had this eBay account
for a very long time, right?
So we have all this stuff that we get for merch
and all that stuff,
and it's been sitting in the garage for----ing ever.
A lot of this was during COVID.
I was like, we need to make some money.
Like, you know, and I was just selling.
- And you were able to sell it? - I sold a lot of stuff.
Wow.
Kristen, Jax decided to come to Benji's welcome home party
even though he wasn't invited.
- Pulled a Doute, right? - You had the conversation
with Zack where you said... - I shouldn't have been--
- I shouldn't have been there. - ...it was your show.
It's my show. My show. My show.
- My show, not yours. - It wasn't for the past 30 days.
I mean, wasn't telling Lisa Vanderpump
that "Vanderpump Rules" was
your show in season eight... - Yeah.
...kind of the beginning of the end for you?
Probably.
This is why my show is successful. This is--
It's actually not your show. It's actually my show, okay?
- I know, but this is why. - And I put your ass on it,
so don't be----ing disrespectful to me.
Okay. Let's not talk about that.
Raise your hand if Jax has referred
to this show as his show.
- We're all lucky to be here. - Well, it's true.
None of this would have happened if I didn't start this up.
- Is this Jax's show, everybody? - No. No.
He was gone for 30 days, and nobody missed him.
You said you fired everyone from Season 1...
[laughter]
...because you didn't like your edit.
I never said that. I don't have that kind of control.
- We know! - We know that!
- [laughter] - No kidding.
- But that's what you say. - Oh, my God.
[chuckles]
ANDY: Coming up on "The Valley" Reunion...
Luke, Brittany felt left out
that she wasn't included on the boat for the engagement.
You ended up telling Jax about Kristen and Luke's engagement.
You didn't do that out of revenge.
♪
STAGE MANAGER: All right, settling.
Everybody looking at Andy. Stand by.
♪
Historically speaking, it's very difficult
to surprise Kristen Doute.
So Luke, Nia, and Danny invited the gang to Maui
for a covert proposal operation, hoping to elude Detective Doute.
Uh, Luke from hooking up at a wedding
in the bushes to getting engaged,
when did you know Kristen was the one?
When? It was a long road trip we did.
There were 5,000 miles in the car with four dogs.
- It was pretty hellish. And we-- - The circumstances.
We were great throughout the entire thing.
Never got after each other.
And on the way back, it was a moment that's like,
holy sh--, am I ever gonna find somebody
that could get through this kind of chaos with me?
- Aw. - Might as well lock her down.
And you had not watched "Vanderpump Rules"?
No. Uh, for the podcast, we recapped season one.
Other than that, no.
BRITTANY: They were already together at that point.
And he was like, "I can't do this anymore."
We were already together at that point.
- Yeah, I bet - ZACK: He was like, "No."
I was like, "We're gonna skip 2 and 3."
- Right. - "And then we can move forward."
And he's like, "I actually don't wanna watch any of this."
Kristen, when did you know that Luke was the one?
Um, I would say, like the first six or seven months,
I was very, very much into him, but very much like,
I don't want to be. It's what I do.
I jump from relationship to relationship,
and we didn't live by each other.
And like, well, it was just all the logistics
that I was just pushing it away, like,
nothing's gonna work, but this is gonna be super fun.
Like, he's young. He's eight years younger than me.
Blah, blah, blah. So sometime after that,
when he said, "I love you"...
- Said, "I love you" early. - Really early.
- Before the road trip. - Is he the first one to say it?
- Yeah. - Nice.
Honestly, I backtracked after I said it.
I'm like, "You know, like, I really have love for you.
I'm not in love with you." - Yeah, "I'm not, like,
in love with you, but, like, I love you."
And he was, like, shaking and sweating, and I was like--
well, he's like, "I wanna tell you something, but..."
Let's see the ring. Show the camera.
- BRITTANY: Whoo-whoo. [giggles] - DANNY: Bam.
NIA: Whoo.
Beautiful. Were you happy with it?
Uh, yeah, it's perfect.
It's way bigger than what I told him I ever wanted.
I'm not, like, a big, flashy person,
but I was like, okay. - BRITTANY: I love it.
- It's over 4 carats, right? - It's so perfect.
It's a lot of carats.
Were you genuinely surprised by the proposal?
- Absolutely shocked. - Really?
I knew--I knew one day for sure he was gonna do it,
but definitely didn't think it was gonna be on camera.
It's actually something we talked about before.
- It is. - And just not at that time.
I thought maybe like next year or something.
Luke, Danny, and Nia, you really need to be commended.
Kristen is known for cracking cases.
BRITTANY: Mm-hmm. That's true.
You guys were able to pull it off.
- Yeah. - Can't believe it.
Brittany felt left out that she wasn't included
on the boat for the engagement.
Why didn't you include Brittany,
knowing that she's one of Kristen's best friends?
I think you saw it play out why--
Brittany and I did talk about it--
is that Jax has a big mouth.
And if I had included her early, her chances of slipping to Jax
and then it getting out and not being a surprise,
that was the risk I saw and chose not to take.
Brittany, you ended up telling Jax
about Kristen and Luke's engagement.
- Ugh. Worst mistake of my life. - [laughs] Can't believe that.
You didn't do that out of revenge
for not being included. - No! No.
Even Kristen and Luke know I did not do that out of revenge.
And I'm-- And I'm so----ing sorry.
- KRISTEN: God, no. - BRITTANY: I swear.
I would never do that to them.
Jax immediately put it in the guys group chat.
Yes, and I will say I gave him...
He did. He gave me a hard time about it.
...I gave him a very hard time about it. Like, real hard.
I honestly thought it was--
I'm sorry. I don't know what I was doing.
- ing group chat.
Kristen, how did you feel about Janet and Jason
deciding to skip the engagement luau?
Yeah, I mean, I think that was... smart.
I mean, if they had been there,
it wouldn't have, like, pissed me off.
Like, I don't even--nothing was gonna ruin that night.
We wouldn't have come guns blazing or anything.
Of course. Yeah, I didn't--
I don't think it would have mattered either way.
But since they, you know, like, offered it, that was nice.
They weren't in a good place at all.
Like, this is the happiest day of her life.
She doesn't necessarily wanna see someone she doesn't like
staring at her, and Janet doesn't wanna put on a T-shirt
that has her face on it, so it's sort of like, okay,
the thing that makes the most logical sense is to skip it.
JANET: Yeah.
Looking back, was it everything you hoped it could be?
- Beyond. - Yeah.
Like, beyond. Absolutely.
And I have to say, Kristen, having known you
for so many years on and off television,
you have always had a certain level of chaos surrounding you.
And it's been really fun to see you...
- More mellow. - Yeah, it's been really nice.
And you two really seem to complement each other.
Yeah, he loves me for who I am, and he handles me very well.
ANDY: Aw.
- Yeah! - Aw.
ANDY: We need to take a break. We'll be right back.
Coming up, the Reunion continues.
I didn't know you guys before cameras.
You weren't the first couple to come over and meet our children?
- Exactly. - So, don't you dare say
we weren't friends. We didn't know you
before filming. - Before filming.
Again, more lies.
♪
We're back with "The Valley" Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Fittingly, Kristen and Luke's Hawaiian engagement
was capped off with a few volcanic eruptions
from their friends.
Jesse, did you have a plan going into Hawaii
to confront Aaron or have a conversation with him?
I did always wanna have the conversation.
And I kept saying, well, you know, my girlfriend called
Michelle to set boundaries, but Aaron never did.
And then I had this realization, well, I'm also a man.
I could call Aaron and set my own boundaries.
And were you happy with the conversation?
It seemed to go well.
So there was some intense moments,
but there was a lot of, like, I looked at him
in the eyes and saying, "Man to man, I trust you"
or "I believe you."
Did you or did you not cross a line
when I was married to Michelle? - No.
Um, and it was a good conversation.
Um, Michelle, what did Aaron tell you
about the conversation when you got back to your room?
I mean, he said it went well overall,
and I think they got along in Hawaii.
I mean, you saw the-- the lap picture.
- Yeah, the photo of them. - That was the next morning.
Jesse was sitting on Aaron's lap. [laughs]
They were having fun.
Okay, well, I'm glad things are positive between you and Aaron.
I mean, we're gonna have to eventually move forward.
And, you know, they're happy. They wanna move forward.
So, like, what's-- what's the point
of holding any animosity, I think?
So, Kristen, you leveled an insult at Janet
when you told Brittany in Hawaii
that she was a fan of "Vanderpump Rules."
She came into the group how?
- Scheana. - As a fan.
And that's where kind of all of this comes from.
Why is being a fan of "Vanderpump Rules" creepy?
Being a fan of the show is not.
And like I said kind of in the beginning,
it was because of how she changed so much
as soon as Season 1 started.
Like, another example I didn't even bring up--
when Jax brought my ex-boyfriend on Season 1.
So, I invited him here.
Why would I give this guy a chance?
- Okay-- - Why would I want to be friends
with the ex of my girlfriend?
I just wanna make sure that you're getting
all the right stories.
And then I see her----ing interview bites,
and she's, like, blaming me
for the relationship with that guy
when she was literally one of my best and closest friends.
I've seen you do things in that relationship that were wrong,
and I've heard you tell me you made a huge mistake
or you did something you shouldn't do.
So, when she kind of changed this narrative
to Alex is the villain and that she's the victim,
it made me look and go, like, we all know that's not true.
And you're sitting there badmouthing me on camera,
and I was floored.
Did you befriend people
like Scheana and Kristen to get on TV?
- No. - It's not honest.
No. I mean, I feel like the way you're
framing this makes it sound like I have, like,
"Good As Gold" posters all over my childhood bedroom.
No, I think that you're trying to be someone that you're not.
Like, which if I did...
♪ Because we're good as gold
Scheana would have told everybody.
She would have loved that so much.
I think you've developed an alter ego,
and that's who you are on camera.
I didn't change when we got on camera.
We were bad for a year before filming.
- And we, too-- - Janet, you--it's like you have
an alter ego, and that's who you act like on camera.
- Oh, my gosh. - You act like someone different
when you're on camera. - There's no specific example.
- Yep. - Okay, Yeah.
- We've said so many examples. - I am not the only person
that said this. Jasmine-- - Yeah, you guys didn't even
know us before we started filming.
- Jasmine agreed. They agreed. - Yeah, I didn't know you guys
before cameras. - JASON: How are you gonna say
she changed? - You weren't the first couple
to come over and meet our children, our daughters
when they were born? - Exactly.
The first couple dancing with our son in our living room?
We didn't know you before we were filming?
That was when we first were getting to know each other.
One time I've been to your house.
The one time we didn't go to LACMA together.
JANET: I've been to your place one time.
We haven't spent time at group gatherings together.
The time that we invited you to our children--
We loved you guys. You were the first friends to meet
our daughters when they were born.
Because we really hit it off, and I--
- Exactly. - Exactly, so don't you dare say
we weren't friends. We didn't know you before filming.
- Before filming. - That's wrong.
- Like, a month before? - Again, more lies.
In, like, May, when Brittany wanted
to have everyone over so we could all just hang out more
before filming, she had a pool party.
You, me, Michelle, and Brittany were all hanging out.
- I can't stand them lying... - I know. Just calm down.
...over and over and over again.
Why did you ask me if you were welcome in my home for
Ariana's birthday if everything was perfect back then?
- I didn't say it was perfect. - But okay, everything was good.
- I'm saying you and I... - It wasn't like this.
...were friends for a long time, and when you started filming,
you acted differently.
Well, when we started filming, you announced that I said
Michelle was racist, which I didn't.
And that changed a lot for me.
Oh, my God. I didn't make it up.
So, Janet, on the boat, on the last night in Hawaii,
you said Danny had sexually assaulted, uh, Jasmine.
I said out loud, yes, that he sexually assaulted
Jasmine and Michelle or Jasmine and Melissa
at the bar. - All right. Bye! I'm done. Nope.
She does not get to----ing say
Danny sexually assaulted someone.
ANDY: You had just made peace with Danny and Nia in the pool.
- Mm-hmm. - Why go there?
Honestly, once we started talking,
Kristen said, "You've been attacking Danny and Nia.
You've been attacking Danny and Nia."
And I felt like I'm not attacking somebody.
This guy did something pretty horrible,
and I think we have to address that.
So I thought it was serious. She thought it was serious.
- Yeah. - And I used the legal term
for the definition of what he did.
'Cause it hadn't been addressed already, like, 40 times, right?
Well, why did you bring their names into that conversation?
You attacked them, so I was being a bitch.
- Right, and I guess... - That's exactly what I said.
...the reason I was talking about Danny and Nia
is 'cause of his actions. - I wasn't bringing up Danny
and Nia--I just said that's why I was an asshole to you.
Kristen said you were attempting to ruin
someone's life who doesn't deserve it.
- Yeah. - Were you?
Um, I guess if you do the things you did,
I think you are responsible for your actions,
not me talking about your actions.
If--If the allegations against you were not true,
that would absolutely be on me,
that I was trying to just ruin your life.
But I think that if you put your hands
on women without their consent, you have to own up to that.
So touching someone's butt is sexual assault?
- Yeah, by definition. - It's actually, like, battery.
- Yeah. - We looked it up.
- Battery? - 'Cause you're touching.
Assault isn't necessarily a touching.
A battery is a touching.
Saying those words are-- are very, very powerful, and--
Okay, well, don't do the things that classify
as a definition of them. - I have owned up to the--
I've owned up to those things and apologized over and over.
He's owned it, taking accountability,
and will continue to, because that's his character.
But this was--we had just did multiple apologies
to each other. - To try to get a good place.
We were trying to get on a better place.
- And we wanted to be there. - And then the next day,
you start throwing these words around like crazy.
When I'm being told I'm attacking you guys,
I'm going to respond to it. - Which Melissa then--
And Melissa even yelled at you and said, "Enough."
JASON: It's not--you're collateral damage in this.
Can you all please stop talking about me and Jasmine?
Shut the [bleep] up! We're through.
You, Janet. She's talking about you.
Great.
You guys are collateral damage in this conversation
between Kristen and Janet. - You attacked me.
Jasmine and Melissa, like, literally,
Melissa yelled at you. - I mean, you know,
you're using a loaded term. - Why did you use the term?
Definition? Yeah, she's not wrong, I guess.
When Jasmine and I first talked about this, I said to her,
when she said, "He was grabbing, you know,
this person's ass, Melissa's ass, my thighs,
making sexually explicit comments, 'Call me Daddy,'"
I said, "You know that's sexual assault?"
And she said, "Yes, and it's not fair.
This happens all the time to women.
And none of these guys-- none of these idiot men,"
I think you said, "ever have to face consequences for it."
♪
ANDY: Coming up...
You heard that Jax had slept with his staff at the bar?
You came in with one of your ladies to a bar
where I was at. I didn't follow you home, but--
Jax Taylor should not own a bar. He's got a lot of issues.
♪
Jasmine and I talked about this.
She said, "He was grabbing this person's ass,
Melissa's ass, my thighs,
making sexually explicit comments, 'Call me Daddy.'"
I said, "You know that's sexual assault?"
She said, "Yes, and it's not fair.
This happens all the time to women,
and none of these idiot men," I think you said...
- Yeah. - "...ever have
to face consequences for it." - You're just trying to make them
- ing look bad! - Yeah, we definitely should.
We should definitely sweep that behavior under the rug so that--
No one's sweeping anything under the rug.
Who's sweeping under the rug?
- You're trying to. - No! This has been talked about!
- It was addressed 20 times. - Time and time and time!
- Over and over and over again. - [all speaking at once]
I'm being asked about it right now.
KRISTEN: Like, what the [bleep] do you keep bringing it up for
when it was talked about?
First of all, hold on a second.
The only person that should be able to say what it was
is Jasmine and Melissa. - Agreed.
- Thank you. - Agreed.
And Jasmine's agreeing with me.
in the beginning, yes. I was very upset.
That's why Melissa said, "Stop talking about it," Janet.
Nobody wants you to talk about it.
And after she asked me to stop talking about it...
- Yes. Yeah. - ...other than when
I've had to in interviews, I apologized to them.
- Yes, thank you for that. - And I stopped.
Yes, and it was like, are we ever gonna get past this?
Like, 'cause now I'm getting angry,
and it's gonna make me get more angry at Danny again.
By show of hands, who thinks that Janet
was being reckless in using that term?
[sighs] I think she was coming from a good place.
But at the same time, I think it just went...
KRISTEN: I wanna know what you were trying to accomplish.
It was not a good place.
She was coming from a malicious place.
What were you trying to accomplish
by saying that term on repeat? - What would you have preferred?
Groped, molested? Like, what-- what would you have preferred?
- Oh, my God. - Molested?
He made a mistake, and he apologized.
- That's not okay to do. - No, no.
[all shouting at once in background]
NIA: That's a lie! That's a lie. You're such a liar.
She's lying.
- We need to clear this up. - Hold on!
As an attorney, is it potentially defamatory?
Are you serious?
- A workman's comp attorney! - I also went to law school.
You're a----ing workman's comp attorney.
- She's lying. - But you also say it's not--
- I can't. - You can't--nothing could happen
in a court of law.
If she had pressed charges for touching the ass...
I mean, I doubt that, like, the DA would pick it up.
It's not like-- there's not a lot of damages.
It's like a bad thing that happened,
but it's not, like, you know, he's gonna do jail time for it.
- So then why use the term? - Thank you.
That's where I think it got thrown off.
Okay, you know what? I'll never use the term again.
I can speak on why she used the term.
- And she loves to hurt people. - She's an evil person.
- Exactly. - And she loves drama,
and she loves attention. - Yeah.
Okay, Nia, you wanted to say what?
I just feel like there needs to be clarity because
there are words and things that are thrown around
that are not true. You have said multiple times,
"This has happened multiple times over and over again."
When you say "multiple times," you're literally trying...
- And this has happened. - Yeah.
...to assassinate his character as a person.
To put things out there that have not happened are not okay.
Okay.
You know that those words can ruin, like...
Yeah, there's lots of words that have been dropped
among this cast that can ruin people.
- Stop deflecting. - You said Michelle
was a whore on camera.
- I didn't say that. - He never said those words!
- Another lie! - You said...
- What? - "I heard that Michelle sleeps
with a billionaire for $1,500 a night" on camera.
Is that not damaging to her reputation?
- See, you are lying, Janet. - Is that--you put words
out there that I didn't say. - Or putting bad words out there.
Are we not allowed to paraphrase?
- Yeah. - She's saying this is
damaging for everybody. Google my name.
Now it seems that I'm a hooker.
Daniel never said Michelle's a whore.
- Prostitute? - Danny said that she is
sleeping with men for money.
What a bunch of dumbasses.
You just have all of this wrong. It's wild.
Okay.
I feel stupid listening to them talk.
- Um, let's move on. - It is just ridiculous.
- ZACK: I can't deal with her. - JASMINE: Oh, my God.
I can't with any of this right now.
- I can't. - Crazy.
ANDY: Let's switch gears. After the gang
returned home from Hawaii, Michelle threw a Zen party.
But all the koi fish and bonsai trees in the world
couldn't bring peace to this chaotic friend group.
Brittany, the last time we saw you and Zack together
in the show, he was screaming at you.
I know. How have things been
between the two of you, uh, since filming wrapped?
Oh, my God. I love Zack.
We are together every single week, multiple times.
I talk to him every single day.
We are much, much better, in a better place.
I was so shocked that night and watching it back
because I was nowhere near the conversation.
You know what that bitch has done.
- Don't be pointing in my face. - No, but what
that bitch has done! - I have your back.
Calm down, calm down.
- So, you two are good? Okay. - But it kind of shocked me.
- Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love him. - You two are good.
- Yeah. - And you two have been buddies
for, like, 20 years?
- Yes. - Where did you meet?
I used to cheer for EKU, and one of my friends
that cheered with me, he dated with. He dated.
- You dated a cheerleader? - Yeah.
And then me and Zack stayed best friends,
and eventually the other guy got crazy.
Um, Danny, Jax stopped inviting you to things
towards the end of the summer.
You were essentially getting blocked by Jax.
Why do you think he did that, and how did it make you feel?
I think he did it because
he wanted to be able to talk behind my back.
And then he would just go off and say,
"Oh, he's probably out drunk somewhere,"
when I was literally at home... - At home with our kids,
...putting our kids to bed.
Is that why you said that you heard that Jax
had slept with his staff at the bar?
He's a narcissist. He's a pathological liar.
- But now he's also-- - We're not gonna be
calling names. It is what it is. - But now he also, like, saying,
"I'm a narcissist, and I've looked it up."
He sleeps with his staff.
- Yeah. - I didn't know that.
- You all have heard that rumor? - Yes.
- Who? Who? - BRITTANY: There was a rumor
about one of them. - What staff member?
- I know. - Tell me who.
I figured out that one wasn't true.
I have two girls that work there.
Unless there's another girl that I don't know.
- Three people that work there. - But there was
definitely a rumor about it. - Yeah, there was a rumor,
but I've never slept with my staff.
Remember, I went crazy on you about it because--
- Yeah, she did. - I heard also...
- And that's where-- - ...from some of your friends
that go there quite often as well.
They made jokes about it because it was at a bar.
- Luke, what do you know? - You came in with one
of your ladies to a bar where I was at.
I don't know if you guys went home and banged or not,
but I know you were having mixed--
- One of your employees. - Can you tell me what
she looked like? I don't know if it was a girl from the bar.
Blonde. I didn't follow you home, but--
Jax Taylor should not own a bar. He's got a lot of issues.
All right, Jesse, I heard that even though
she wanted nothing to do with the season,
your girlfriend came to Michelle's Zen party.
Yeah. At the end of the night, I was supposed to be
at a birthday dinner for her at Chateau,
and, uh, she called and said, "Are you guys done?"
And I said, yeah. So she came by.
Um, Michelle, how were your interactions
with Jesse's girlfriend that night?
[exhales deeply] It was terrible.
Um... they were not good.
But I don't feel comfortable talking about it.
My lawyer said that I shouldn't.
I heard that you had a massive screaming match
after cameras went down.
She's told not to talk about it because of her threats.
- Got it. - That's why she's not
wanting to talk about it.
Guys, can we, like, not do this sh-- on season 3?
This, like, legal----ing-- Just, can we film a show?
- And I--And I--And I honestly-- - It's so exhausting.
That was nobody's fault but hers.
We're gonna talk about stuff like that.
I'm actually not talking about it.
She's not here to defend herself.
Well, I know she showed up at an all-cast event.
- Like, at 10:30 when-- - And then made a legal threat.
It was very clear that everybody was still filming.
They picked up cameras and put a boom over our head
as soon as she walked in the restaurant.
As they should have. They were doing their job.
- Yeah. - If your girlfriend
showed up today, you know what I would do?
Stick a mic on her and get her in here.
- Yep. Amen. - Amen.
- That's how it works. - This is a hot set.
- Yeah. - It was a--
This is a show called "The Valley."
- Mm-hmm. - That's your girlfriend?
I wanna talk to her. Bring her out.
Let's get her on the phone.
- [snaps fingers] - You understand?
Yeah.
- Okay. We'll be right back. - [laughs]
ANDY: Coming up after the break...
Janet, I feel like if you can take accountability
for the things you've done,
and I'll take the accountability for the things I've done...
Well, we could start by maybe
tonight you could unblock each other.
♪
STAGE MANAGER: Five... four...
three to the jib...
two...
We are back with final thoughts
from "The Valley" Season 2 Reunion.
Now, reunions aren't just about rehashing the season.
They're also about charting a path forward.
And I just wanna hit on a couple relationships
and see where we're at.
You know, Jesse and Michelle, I would love to
bring back the exercise from Santa Barbara.
I'm wondering if each of you could say something nice
about each other. - [Zack snickering]
- Jesse, you start. - JASMINE: Oh, Lord.
Um... I loved Michelle for a very long time,
and we had an amazing start to our relationship.
And I think she's gonna prosper and grow.
And I think she found somebody that, like,
gives her the nurturing and sort of the, um,
the attention she always needed.
Okay. Michelle.
I mean, I've always said that Jesse is a great father,
and I never wanted to take Isabella,
and I...like seeing the moments that you guys
are together on camera.
And it's very nice to know that you're a great father.
- Isabella's hilarious. [laughs] - She is so great.
ZACK: She can have her own show.
- Spinoff! - I love her.
Jason, do you feel resolved, pretty much?
I don't... [sighs]
It's tough because I wanted certain things
to go differently.
It's sad. Um...
It's tough. It's just-- It's a tough experience.
ANDY: Zack, do you have anything that you wanna say to the group?
I mean, I think at least one person.
Janet...
I feel like if you can take accountability
for the things you've done, and I'll take the accountability
for the things I've done, maybe we can move forward
and... make Brittany's life a little easier.
[laughter]
I'm like, yes, please!
Well, we could start by maybe tonight
you could unblock each other from social media.
- He is unblocked. - Yeah, I blocked her this time.
- He is unblocked. - Yeah. I'm blocked on his.
Yeah. So she unblocked me, and then I blocked her.
- Okay, so, Zack. - I will. Okay.
- Here, you want me to do it now? - Yes.
- Okay, I'll do it right now. - Very nice. Wow.
- I'm watching. - Now, Janet, you can get a taste
of all the content that Zack is serving.
- I'm sure I've missed so much. - Yes.
Does anyone care that I have Zack blocked or...
[laughter]
Oh, you do? I didn't even notice.
[Brittany laughs]
Jax, congratulations on your sobriety.
Thank you.
- I hope you keep building on it. - Me, too.
Where's your headspace as you leave tonight?
My main objective here was just obviously
to talk to Brittany and just to move forward
and be peaceful to each other
and be amazing co-parents to our son and...
just be peaceful to each other. I-I know I've done a lot,
and I'm hoping that she can forgive me one day.
I'm not saying today.
We have to be in each other's lives for a long time,
and I think... [sighs] I've done a lot,
and I just hope she can find it in her heart
to forgive me one of these days.
Was tonight a good start, do you think, Brittany?
- I don't know. - We'll see.
It's hard. It's gonna take a lot for him to prove to me
that he's actually changing.
And I'm sorry, but that's just the truth.
All right.
Well, it is tradition to end with a toast,
but with two new babies on the way,
tequila shots didn't feel like the right move.
- KRISTEN: Sorry, guys. - So we have mocktails
served in baby bottles.
[laughter]
Okay, so who in the group is the toast giver?
- JASON: It's actually Brittany. - Brittany probably.
- It's Brittany. - ZACK: Absolutely not Jesse.
We'll be here for another hour.
I'm definitely the toast giver, but we don't have time for that.
Oh, wow. These are glass. These are nice bottles.
- Okay. - Do we get to keep
these bottles after? - All right.
- Brittany Cartwright... - Oh, Lord, pressure.
...bring us out with the toast.
Okay, I just want to say congratulations
on everybody for Season 2, and I know it's not easy.
I think everybody, like, really shared a lot.
And I just hope that we can continue this on.
New friendships, old friendships.
I just hope that we can all come to a better place,
because I love every single one of you.
- Cheers to that. - And may this upcoming year
be the best days of our lives.
- Cheers. - Cheers, everybody.
- Cheers! - Cheers.
- [Brittany laughs] - Good night.
For more on "The Valley," go to bravotv.com.
- It's amazing. - Whoo!
Well, congratulations on your first reunion.
- Broke your cherry. - Whoo!
- We did it. - One, two.
- Smile. - With Jax.
- We made it through. - That was crazy.
- Get me outta here. Ready to go. - Yeah.
♪ My future looks like you ♪
So when do I see Cruz again? Monday? Tuesday?
♪ My future looks like you ♪
- We love you all! - Bye, y'all!
♪ My future looks like you, ooh-ooh-ooh ♪
♪ My future looks like you, ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh ♪