Hi! We love you!
-These are your people, honey. -Yes.
-You are a star to all of us. -6 years old--
that's all I wanted, the center of attention.
Hi.
I really wanna be back on television.
-You're gonna be back on TV. -Yup.
That's easy.
I want you to be able to start stepping up on things.
No, thank you. Let's try something else!
There's some times where
Wendy's just a little bit more aggressive.
Did you drink this whole thing today?
[bleep] you.
When we get to California,
dumbass Will-- he's gonna be gobsmacked,
I will smoke what I smoke, and I will liquor when I liquor.
...that is alarming?
No. I mean, this is-- Wendy is Wendy.
This is where we get the blus from every time.
[Wendy] This doesn't look like anything familiar.
I think she's losing memory. Like, she just blanks out.
Wendy, you know we have stuff to do today, right?
[Alex, voice breaking] I Google my aunt's name, like, every day,
and the most frightening thing always is that
it will be, like, something that we can't come back from.
It's okay.
Just take an hour or two
'cause, you know, you look a little tired, all right?
♪♪
[producer] Okay.
[Wendy] We ready?
-And I'm talking to you? -Yes, ma'am.
Okay. Well, I'm bored.
I wanna get back on TV
and stay on for years.
But there are a few people that want me to make sure
that my health is perfect.
I said, how dare you? But when you're on TV,
they're always concerned about your well-being.
You know, check you out.
And by the way, there's my pink chair.
So, I'm ready.
And aw--
[gasps]
[voice breaking] And away we go.
♪
[horn honks, siren wailing in distance]
Whew.
Oh, my goodness.
♪
[producer] So, are you excited for today?
Oh, I'm so excited. I can't wait to see her.
I really can't. I can't wait.
It's gonna be good to catch up with my aunt.
I'll say, "How are you? And I'm sure she's gonna say--
as my aunt says, "Uh, better than you. Better than you."
And then we will have a chuckle. I'll say, "Oh, really?"
And she'll say, "What's going on, Alex?"
[producer] There's been some headlines out there
that have been kind of hard. Are you concerned at all?
I mean, you know, honestly,
at the end of the day, family sticks together.
One thing we know about media,
and certainly when you're at the status of my aunt,
you can't believe everything you read.
My aunt's a stallion. You know what I mean?
What do they say?
"Often imitated, never duplicated."
I genuinely am just in awe of my aunt,
and I've always been in awe of her.
[sighs]
Yeah.
[sighs]
[voice breaking] She's beautiful. She's smart.
Oh, my goodness. She's smart, funny...
talented, iconic.
That's my girl.
♪
All right. See you guys.
Oh.
-[crew] Hello. -Hi.
-We'll get you mic'd up. -Okay.
[man] All right.
-[crew] Got speed. -Oh, it's been about a year.
[producer] When you think of Wendy with you growing up,
what kind of a role model was she?
I am a news anchor and reporter.
Good evening, South Florida. I'm Alex Finnie.
And one thing about going into this industry,
my aunt always instilled in me-- be yourself and embrace
all of the beautiful and complicated
and fascinating parts of who you are,
and the right opportunity will find you.
[producer] What are you looking forward to the most
about seeing Wendy now?
Oh, I'm just looking forward to...
first of all, a big hug, you know? "Hi!"
You know, I'm looking forward
to her maybe potentially wearing
a fabulous robe when I see her,
'cause, you know, my aunt loves her robes.
I don't know, just--just to see her.
[singsongy] Uh, hello?
[Wendy] I wish the TV worked.
[Alex] Uh, hello? Hi.
Does somebody know how to work the TV?
-Hi! -[laughs] Hi.
-Hi, Alex. -What are you trying to do?
Trying to figure out how to work the TV?
Oh, my God. Gone--like, all your stuff?
Yeah, no, actually, it's over there.
Oh, where? Oh, over here.
-Yeah. -Okay.
I'm moving because of my feet.
Yeah, you told me you're moving.
That's why I want a one-story flat, you know?
I'm trying to figure out how to work this TV.
Ugh, God.
These winter coats in New York.
So, what's up?
-Nothing. -Nothing?
Nope.
[laughs]
Are you excited about...
-Moving? -Yeah.
-Yes. -Yeah.
So, I'm selling a lot of this stuff.
[Alex] Right. Right. You did say that.
And I'm moving to my new apartment...
-Mm-hmm. -...which I've already seen it.
Mm-hmm.
When do you plan on moving? How soon?
I already told you.
I won't say that.
-I already told you. -Okay.
-Mm-hmm. -Okay. I'll try to remember,
but... -Mm-hmm.
[mouthing words]
-Mm-hmm. Okay. -Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So, your apartment's already on the market.
Well, this place will make all the money,
and it'll all go to Bank of America.
-Mm-hmm. -And by the way, according to...
Shawn, who-- you haven't met Shawn.
No, I have not met her.
Shawn's in the-- she's sleeping, apparently.
-Mm-hmm. -But there's no money for me
at Wells Fargo. None.
Uh, excuse me. Excuse me?
I've got no money at Wells Fargo.
-Hmm. -Zero.
Impossible.
Like, your account's at zip? That's what you're being told?
Yep. Yep.
Hmm.
And I will sue all the people involved.
That's interesting.
Yeah. I had billions of dollars.
-You--You said you had billions. -I know...
-Okay. -...exactly what I had.
Okay.
So, in other words, [bleep]
has stolen from my account.
-Hmm. -Right?
I don't know, because I'm not involved in your finances.
But if you have proof and evidence of that...
Well...
♪
Shawn!
-[Shawn] Yes? -[Wendy] Come in.
Hi. How are you?
-[Alex] Fine. -This is my niece.
-Nice to meet you. -Hi. How are you?
I'm gonna give you a hug. I'm a hugger.
-I never met you before. -I know. We never met before.
Nice to meet you.
So, how did you guys get connected?
-How did that happen? -Her attorney at the time
reached out so I can start doing the crisis and PR management
about the Wells Fargo situation. -Mm-hmm.
And then we just continued on from that point.
And you live-- where do you live again?
-Los Angeles. -Oh, you live in L.A. Okay.
-Yes. -Okay. Gotcha.
I live in Los Angeles, and you live--
And she's seen my new apartment.
-Good. -Yes, I saw her new place,
the place that she wants. She loves it. She's--
-'Cause it's all one level. -Mm-hmm.
So, she was excited about that.
So...
I was telling Alex that I have...
Oh.
[footsteps approach]
Yeah.
♪
Yes. Yeah.
One second. Will be right back, Wendy.
Okay.
[producer] We'll--We'll text you.
[Alex] Hi.
[sighs]
So, let me ask you how, like, 'cause I know
you're really good friends with Shawn now and whatnot.
I'm just trying to understand, like, what,
you pay her, and she's your friend?
-I pay her. -Okay.
And all of a sudden she's more than PR.
That's interesting.
She understands finance.
Okay.
Yeah.
'Cause I'll be honest with you.
It's no secret
that there have been random people around you
getting money, getting paid, whatever the case may be...
Stealing money from me.
I'm just trying to figure out your friend that
you're saying is your friend, that you're also paying.
It's giving a little... desperate energy.
You are an "A"-list celebrity. You are bigger than this.
You are better than this. You are smarter than this.
You are stronger than this.
The Aunt Wendy that I know that has instilled in me
how to navigate this crazy business that we're in...
this isn't it. People around you getting paid--
they gon' tell you stuff to make you feel good.
You taught me that.
Listen to the people in your life
that are not taking a dime.
They are not profiting.
I understand, Alex.
And that's what I'm saying.
Alex, relax. I understand.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Then I've said my piece.
I love you.
I love you, too.
Um...
I'm done for the day.
[producer] So, what just happened?
I had a very real moment with my aunt.
I don't hold my tongue when it comes to my family,
their happiness, their safety, their everything.
I'm going to say it like it is. She taught me that.
Say it like you mean it, so here we are.
Not quite.
[chuckles] In a robe.
Um, tells me there's food in the fridge
or there's water in the fridge.
No, I don't want to.
♪
I'd like to walk away now.
So... I wanna walk away.
Please. [sniffles]
♪
[Alex] I am processing a lot.
My concerns are just who these people are that are around her.
What are they promising her?
I've tried.
As time passed,
that communication turned from very friendly
to more, um, just very closed off.
And so my hands are tied in the way of...
I can't be here every day.
I just wanna make sure that my aunt, my godmother,
is okay and that she's in good hands when I'm not here.
♪
I love her.
[birds chirping]
♪♪
-Hey. -How you doing?
-Good. What's going on? -What's going on?
How are you?
Yeah, there's a lot happening.
♪
[line rings]
This is crazy.
-[Wendy] Hi. -What's up, Wendy?
So, you know what you have to do later on today, right?
-Well, I can't. -What do you mean, you can't?
I spoke to you yesterday, and you said 4:00 is fine.
Well, I'm in... Los Angeles.
Okay. When are you coming back?
Three weeks.
Are you [bleep] serious?
Well... hold on.
So, I flew with the Black girl.
Who? Shawn-- so, Shawn came to get you?
-Yep. -Okay.
She came, and then--and then
she took care of the flying because, you know,
I didn't have a credit card.
-Look... -Yeah.
-I have plenty of stuff to do. -That's--
Do you understand?
Yeah, but who gives a [bleep] about that?
All right.
Maybe... Maybe two weeks.
Maybe you need to bring your ass back here now.
You need to get on a plane first thing in the morning.
I need both of you guys to call me,
and we need to figure this out.
All right? Goodbye.
[Keesha] She's wild.
[Will] She's not wild. She's just selfish and immature.
♪♪
Shawn's calling me now.
Hello?
Will.
Can you tell me what's going on?
-And can you just-- -Let me just--
Can you just tell me the truth, please?
She called me and told me that she did not have any food,
that she had asked you, and you didn't bring it to her,
and she had to get out of there. She said, "I'm crying.
"Please come! Come now! Come now!" Like, belligerently.
Okay, at no point did you--did you think to mention it to me?
She asked me to bring her and not to say anything, Will.
She is telling me that she is petrified!
It doesn't matter. She should be petrified
because she knows she has no business in L.A.!
She just lied and manipulated you,
and you allowed her to do it, and you put me in a position
where I look like a [bleep] idiot!
She needs to get her ass back here right now.
And then me and you need to have a conversation separately
'cause we need to figure out what's going on,
because I can't believe
that you would even do this behind my back, honestly.
Well, I'm gonna go up there right now,
and we're gonna all talk or have you--
All right, let me know. Let me know. All right, bye.
-Okay. -[cellphone thuds]
Shawn is full of [bleep].
I don't even know how
the guardianship feels about this.
[bleep] text me, asking me, "Is Wendy in L.A.?"
I ignored her because I don't even know what to tell her,
'cause now she's gonna look at me like,
"How did you let Wendy go over to L.A.?"
So, now she's not gonna trust me.
They don't understand the position they put me in.
So, I'm just pissed.
♪
-[woman] And here she is. -[man] Whoo!
[woman] Can we pop the microphone on you?
-Yeah. -[Shawn] Oh, my gosh.
I have to go to the bathroom.
[Shawn] She looks so pretty, and her eyes--
the way you did her eyes are so--I love 'em.
♪♪
-[Wendy] Shawn? -Yes?
-Can you come here for a second? -Yes.
Can you close the door?
Can you open this?
[speaks indistinctly]
[Shawn] Okay, yeah. Um...
[Wendy] What does that have to do with, me being on TV?
-Yes. -Yes.
-They can come with us. -Okay.
♪♪
Put your microphone on?
-Can I sit down? -Of course. Yeah, of course.
It's a good spot.
Sean just told me something really great,
and of course it would happen to me.
-[Shawn] You look amazing. -Thank you.
Amazing. So pretty.
-Thank you. -I love it.
♪♪
♪
[producer] So, this meeting today...
-Mm-hmm. -For a talk show?
-Yeah. NBC. -[Shawn] NBC Universal.
But they have to understand it can't be here in Miami.
It's gotta be in New York, New York.
[producer] Where are we today?
In California.
[producer] Right, so you don't want the show in L.A.
-No! -Okay.
I mean, all due respect, but New York is much better.
More important.
[producer] Why did Wendy Williams Show end?
Because I wanted to see my family, and I was done.
-[producer] Tired. -Yeah.
And I had enough money to do whatever I want.
I was there for 14 years.
-[producer] You had success. -Yep.
[producer] Did they want you gone or no?
I don't--I don't know what that means.
-[Shawn] Yes. -[producer] Tell me about that.
[Shawn] When I saw the story, I was shocked.
♪
Some of the negative things that her producers
and employees or so forth were supposedly dealing with--
those were alleged.
Just because those people say that's what Wendy did
or that's what happened,
that doesn't mean that's what happened.
♪
[Wendy] Universal Pictures-- you know they're gonna say yes.
An immediate yes.
[Shawn] I know. I feel it in my spirit.
[Wendy] Back on TV.
♪
No. She's not healthy enough.
It's very clear she shouldn't be working,
or she shouldn't be being pushed to work.
There's no reason for her to be in L.A. at all.
[Alex] Her trip to L.A.-- it just seems so bootleg.
I am worried about her health.
I do feel at times that she's being pushed to do too much
for other people's pockets.
♪♪
[Will] Wendy is bored. She's lonely.
She told me that she just...
I guess, lacked entertainment.
But Shawn taking her to L.A. is way out of bounds.
My only concern is making sure that Wendy's safe
when she's under a guardianship.
[producer] When did you meet Shawn?
A few weeks ago. A... How...
-Many hours ago. -[Shawn] No.
-[producer] Many hours ago? -[Wendy] In New York.
-[producer] Okay. -[Wendy] Yeah.
[Shawn] And I've been working with her for over a year,
just so you know.
[Wendy] And when I met her, at first, I was like,
I told Will,
"What the [bleep] does she have to do with [bleep]?"
And as I got to know her, I said,
I trust Zanotti more than I trust Will.
Will never screamed until recently--
screaming at me, screaming at Zanotti.
Screaming.
And by the way, I want a new manager immediately.
[producer] Do you want to be her manager?
[Shawn] I mean, I'm her publicist,
but I guess essentially I am kind of doing managerial things
at this point, too.
I just want to try a new direction with Universal
and a new manager.
♪
[Wendy] So, we're going to the star
on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
[producer] Why did you wanna see your star today?
Because that's part of what I'm supposed to be doing.
[Shawn] This is something
we were planning on doing this week, yeah.
[producer] For what reason?
Well, it's a special moment for her,
and I think it's important for her to be able
to relive special moments because she is Wendy Williams.
She's an icon.
Let her tell you about the star...
[producer] Yeah.
[Shawn] ...what that experience was like for her.
It was packed.
[crowd cheering]
It was around the corner.
[cheering continues]
There were people, and I mean all kinds of people.
You know, being Black is great,
but I love white people,
Puerto Rican people, Jewish people,
you know, short people, gay people.
[producer] You love that every color person loves you.
-[Wendy] Yeah. -[crowd cheers, echoing]
[producer] What did it mean to have a star on the Walk of Fame?
Everything. It'll be there forever.
Like, when I die, it'll be right there.
-[producer] Wow. -Yep.
[crowd chanting] Wendy! Wendy! Wendy! Wendy! Wendy! Wendy!
[woman] We love you, Wendy!
[crowd cheering]
♪
[Regina] Wendy is a force of nature.
She could sit and talk to anyone.
She'll have something to connect with you,
and all of a sudden, you're her fast pal.
Thank you very much.
She wants to hear about people's experience,
so everyone feels wanted by her.
-Thank you. -Oh, we love you, Wendy.
♪
But in her apartment in New York, she's by herself.
Her son's in Florida. Her family's in Florida.
I'm in California.
So, she's in her apartment most of the time,
and she's tired of staring at the wall,
and her money's locked up,
so she doesn't feel free to do anything.
[Wendy] I love being noticed.
I love putting my--this down
and hoping that somebody knows exactly who I am.
I love being famous.
[Shawn] Everywhere we go here, I mean,
people are taking pictures of her.
[Wendy] What's this? What did we stop for?
[producer] Uh, we're at the star.
-This is it? -[producer] Yep.
[Wendy] Oh, great. This is the star.
♪
[woman] Oh, my God. Wendy Williams!
Hi!
-Hi, Wendy! -[woman #2] Hi, Wendy!
-Hey! -I'm-a take a picture.
We'll be back here.
[woman speaks indistinctly]
[Shawn] Thank you so much.
Yeah.
[woman] Wendy Williams. Ah! "How you doin'?" [laughs]
Thank you.
[laughter]
Look.
[woman] Oh, you got a star! Oh, yay!
[laughs] Yeah.
♪
[woman #2] Wendy Williams, everybody.
♪
Say, "How you doin'?"
-[women] How you doin'? -[laughter]
-Ah, thank you. -Thank you.
I want--I want a single one, though.
You do it with me now.
-Universal is talking to me... -Mm-hmm.
-...next. -Okay, cool.
-And I'm sure it'll happen. -It will.
We waiting for you.
And The Wendy Williams Show dressed the way they dress.
-Oh, we going-- -Mm-hmm.
The Wendy Show is gonna wear things like this.
-Very much so. -The Gucci, the fur.
-Yes. Yeah. -All right, Wendy.
-Thank you. -Hi.
Okay, bye, Wendy. Keep telling your truth, girl.
-Thank you. -Say whatever you want.
-They can't stop you. -Thank you.
-Peace. -We love you, Wendy.
Wow.
♪
See, this is part of all kinds of people love Wendy,
and that matters a lot.
So, when Universal Pictures, we're gonna cut a deal,
and the deal is gonna be...
[Shawn] You ready?
[car door closes]
[Shawn] Okay, so we're confirmed for 3:00 for NBC, so--
[Wendy] What time is it now?
[Shawn] It's 12, so we're gonna do lunch,
and then we'll have to go to the meeting.
[Wendy] You said we're going for someplace to eat?
-Yes. -Is this a high end place?
Yes, Wendy.
Are there some famous people maybe that are here?
Probably not.
Wow.
-This is great. -It's gorgeous.
♪
[producer] I love seeing you...
Because we're talking to Universal Pictures about me.
[producer] What are you gonna tell them?
Yes.
♪
[producer] Um, what are you drinking?
Uh... Grey Goose.
[sips]
♪
[Wendy] Thank you for setting up Universal Pictures.
[Shawn] You're welcome.
You know they're gonna say yes. Back on TV.
[burps loudly]
I'm glad I can show Universal Pictures my feet.
This is lymphedema,
and I can only feel now 2%.
-[Shawn] Yeah. -Just because,
like, wow, she's a winner. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
You're a survivor. You're--you're--
and you're pushing through. You're strong.
-Yep. -[cellphone rings]
-Is that you or... -No, that's...
Oh, Wendy, that is your phone. So, you have your phone.
-[ringing continues] -Oh, my God.
-Oh, my God! -[chuckles]
[ringing continues]
It's Will.
I'm gonna put it on speaker.
-Okay. -What?
Calling to see what's going on.
Okay. So, is there a problem with me calling you?
I'm with Shawn Zanotti. [clears throat]
I know you're with Shawn.
I'm just calling to see what's up,
see how you're doing. What are you having for lunch?
-Everything. -Everything?
[beep]
So, she knows that I know she's been drinking.
That's why she didn't wanna hold the conversation with me.
So, my next call is to [bleep].
I have no choice but to let her know what's going on.
'Cause Wendy should not be drinking at all, ever.
No matter where she is-- in New York, L.A.,
she should not be drinking.
I need to get her back to New York, plain and simple.
That's it. She shouldn't be drinking.
♪
Oh, wow.
Mmm, that looks good.
-[server] Looks good? -[Shawn] Thank you.
-Yes, everything looks great. -It does. It looks great.
-Excuse me. -[server] Yes?
Have you ever watched The Wendy Williams Show?
Well, I'm Wendy.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Would you like more dressing?
-I'll take one more of this. -Yes.
Yes.
Well, I... when I'm around her and I see her,
if she has a drink,
I've never witnessed her being drunk in my life.
I told you guys, she knows her limits.
She knows to--to stop, and so to me, if I, you know--
[producer] ...and that's when rumors had started.
[Shawn] Oh, I remember seeing that. She was in, like,
a Louis Vuitton store or something,
grabbed a picture, saying that she was drinking in there?
-[Wendy] No. -[Shawn] No.
That's why I didn't give a response to it.
Because those types of stories,
if I respond to it, then it becomes a "story."
♪
Yeah, her sleeping in Louis Vuitton
was right after the guardianship started.
They pulled her away from us,
and within a month, this happened.
It's very clear she has a problem with alcohol.
I think if you bring up alcohol around her, she gets defensive.
[producer] If the public is all scared for her...
[Shawn] I don't think the public is scared for her right now.
The headlines as we speak right now,
if you were to look,
they're talking about her being healthy,
about her being happy, about her being vibrant,
about her wanting to be back into work.
Those are my--but, yeah, that's--but--
[producer] But the counter of that--
The Hollywood Reporter and other pieces...
-Mm-hmm. -...there is public sentiment
about what's happening with Wendy.
Two years ago, she's on The Wendy Williams Show,
could talk perfectly clean for an hour.
-Yeah. -And now we're forgetting words
and where we are. -Mm-hmm.
[Shawn] I know what you mean.
Sometimes she may forget a word or something along those lines.
Yeah.
But I also think she just may forget sometimes.
[yawns]
I've never spoken to her medical team.
But I feel that she's okay, and from the time I started
working with her until now, she's much better.
She's bouncing back,
and I think that's important to say.
She's on the bounce back right now. Yeah.
[Shawn] Okay.
-What time is it? -We're right on time.
[gasping and crying]
[Shawn] You okay?
'Cause they're gonna say yes,
and when I show my feet
and this is the way I wanna look,
they're gonna say yes.
And I can't wait to get back to New York
and sell my gorgeous apartment.
[sniffles]
-[crew #1] All set, ready to go? -[crew #2] Okay.
My mom--she always talks about how she wants to work.
Um...
I feel as though she's worked enough.
♪
[Shawn] You ready?
[Kevin] Her health needs to be her number one priority,
not her getting a talk show.
I want to put my mom in a situation where
working isn't the thing that kills her.
[Travis] Why are they still looking for work for her?
Right now she needs recovery, and if she doesn't get it...
I don't think anybody knows what comes next.
-[Wendy] I'm so excited... -[Shawn] I'm so excited, too.
-...to be back on TV. -Yeah.
And I wanna be on until forever.
[Shawn] Wendy, would you wanna go to the Oscars?
-Oscars? -Yeah.
-This weekend? -What's Oscars?
Well... the award show.
Would you want to go to award show
and--and walk the red carpet?
-Yeah. -Oh, you would? Okay.
Hmm. Okay.
I wanna wear this.
[Shawn] No, you wouldn't be able to wear that, though.
You would have to be, like, glammed up in, like,
um... like, in--in a dress,
like after--evening wear.
We would have to probably go shopping
'cause I don't think you packed anything like that.
-I don't know what you packed. -Mnh-mnh.
-No. -No. Okay.
[Alex] I just don't understand how anybody could look at her
and think that the Wendy that everybody's known,
um, matches what we've been seeing over the last year.
And to me, quite frankly, it's despicable.
It's despicable that you would take her
into a meeting.
Come on.
[Shawn] Okay. Right here.
-[Wendy, singsongy] I'm excited. -[Shawn] Good.
[producer] How do you handle going into a major network,
and they say, "What's changed about her brain?
What's changed about her behavior?"
Yeah. Well, I feel like that's something
we're gonna address when-- if that happens
or they ask that, because to be fair,
I don't--I don't know the answers to that question.
This is not me trying to spin something. I don't know.
Good.
[Shawn, singsongy] That meeting was amazing.
[Wendy] It went really well. We expected men to be there.
-Yeah. -And they were all women.
All women is-- Can you believe that?
-Which is great. -Which was beautiful.
They just wanted to get an idea
of what would the show look like, how--
you know, the dynamics of what that would be.
[Wendy] And I said, "I wanna wear stuff like this."
[Shawn] She did.
And then I took off my boots and showed my feet.
-They were like, "Wow." -She did.
[producer] Why was it important for you to do that?
Because it's comical in a weird way.
You know, like, I should be in a wheelchair. [chuckles]
It was very much so that people are ready to see her back on TV
and that they were ready to see her--
ready to see her back on TV, too.
So, they'll get back to us next week.
I'm very excited, and they're gonna say yes.
♪
But I immediately have to go back to New York
to sell the apartment, and I have obligations with the judge.
I was supposed to stay in New York,
so the sooner the better.
[Shawn] You mean to go back to New York, Wendy?
-Yeah. -Okay.
The sooner the better.
♪
-Where am I going? -Right here.
So, Will, what just happened upstairs?
Just had a conversation with Wendy and Shawn,
and, um, I feel like we ironed some things out.
You know, it was slightly heated, and, um,
Shawn is acting as if she did nothing wrong.
She's trying to convince me
that she's not trying to replace me as her manager.
She is just concerned about Wendy as much as I am.
Wendy told me she misses me, she loves me.
The same reaction I had.
Very concerned. Didn't know what was going on.
Has no idea who Shawn is.
So, was sharing the same concerns that I had
as far as Wendy being in somebody else's,
I guess, hands or responsibility.
[producer] Did Shawn tell you everything
about what happened in L.A.?
You gonna--what you wanna ask me about,
the stupid little meeting they had in L.A.?
-Is that what you want? -Tell me about that.
We all know that it was a horrible decision,
and there needs to be people in place that have a sound mind
that can make good decisions for her.
♪♪
Since L.A., she's been a completely different person.
She came back so disheveled,
adamant about drinking,
And right now she's at her apartment
considering selling items for no reason.
She thinks she has a show in L.A.
I really don't know what exactly she will need.
It's an ongoing process, you know?
I thought at one point that I was enough,
and I realized that that's not the case.
It's just stressful not knowing how you can help someone,
and you want to help them.
♪♪
[Alex] I think that my aunt would be better with her family
than alone in New York, you know,
being around people that actually
truly, genuinely love her
uh, without a question and a shadow of a doubt.
I wanna make sure that she's making
the most sane, rational, health-first decisions,
and I just want to ensure that the people that are around her
are making sure that happens even before her career.
♪
I think she should have a guardian,
but I think that's essentially what she already had in Kevin.
At this point, all they've done is keep me and Kevin away
and keep her focused on work.
I feel like the guardian has not done a good job
of protecting my mom,
and I feel like, you know,
Will is a jeweler at the end of the day,
and I think he's trying to do his best.
But at the same time,
dealing with my mom is a very intense job
that a lot of people can't handle.
[producer] What are you afraid
or your concerns are that will happen
if something drastic doesn't change?
I'm afraid that she could die.
♪♪
[Wendy] And away we go.
-Wednesday... -Yeah?
...I'll be back on TV.
-Today is Wednesday. -I mean... it's not working.
Things are just not normal. It's heartbreaking.
[Kevin] Last time I saw her, she looked skinny and confused,
and I know that she's not getting the help that she needs.
The guardianship system is broken.
-Empty. -I don't even know where she is.
She hasn't wanted to really speak to me.
We are falling apart as a family.