1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,306 --> 00:00:04,830 [electronic music] 3 00:00:04,917 --> 00:00:08,443 - ♪ MTV ♪ 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:17,321 --> 00:00:20,107 [rain pattering] 6 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:31,727 [Eminem's "Stan"] 7 00:00:31,857 --> 00:00:38,908 ♪ ♪ 8 00:01:10,940 --> 00:01:12,507 - A lot of people ask me... 9 00:01:12,681 --> 00:01:17,207 ♪ 10 00:01:17,294 --> 00:01:19,862 - Why did you write the song "Stan?" 11 00:01:20,036 --> 00:01:23,431 - Is "Stan" based on a real fan? 12 00:01:23,561 --> 00:01:26,738 - Why do you share so much about yourself in your music? 13 00:01:26,825 --> 00:01:29,524 - What the hell goes on in your brain? 14 00:01:29,698 --> 00:01:31,961 - Are you happy? 15 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:34,355 - How's your daughter? 16 00:01:34,442 --> 00:01:36,661 - Who is someone that helped you the same way 17 00:01:36,835 --> 00:01:38,272 that you helped me? 18 00:01:38,446 --> 00:01:41,057 - Do you feel like the impact you've had 19 00:01:41,231 --> 00:01:43,407 is what you hoped it would be? 20 00:01:43,538 --> 00:01:45,670 - What's it like being famous? 21 00:01:45,844 --> 00:01:47,411 - How much fan mail do you get? 22 00:01:47,585 --> 00:01:51,415 - How does it feel to be followed by so many people? 23 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:53,243 - Have you read my letter? 24 00:01:53,374 --> 00:01:56,116 ♪ ♪ 25 00:01:56,203 --> 00:01:59,423 - Is everyone ready? 26 00:01:59,554 --> 00:02:02,122 - All right, Marshall, take one. 27 00:02:02,209 --> 00:02:04,602 - What's your first question? 28 00:02:04,733 --> 00:02:07,388 [Eminem's "Bad Guy"] 29 00:02:07,518 --> 00:02:10,173 ♪ ♪ 30 00:02:10,260 --> 00:02:14,569 - ♪ Time you can see the truth ♪ 31 00:02:14,656 --> 00:02:17,224 ♪ But it's easier to justify ♪ 32 00:02:17,354 --> 00:02:20,140 ♪ What's bad is good ♪ 33 00:02:20,314 --> 00:02:23,665 ♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪ 34 00:02:23,795 --> 00:02:26,189 [upbeat music] 35 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,497 ♪ I just hate to be the bad guy ♪ 36 00:02:29,627 --> 00:02:31,629 ♪ ♪ 37 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,242 ♪ I just hate to be the bad guy ♪ 38 00:02:44,381 --> 00:02:48,733 - ♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪ 39 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:12,061 - Hi, my name is chicka-chicka Slim-- 40 00:03:12,148 --> 00:03:15,804 [laughs] I wanted to say Zolt Shady. 41 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:18,763 Hi, my name is chicka-chicka-chicka 42 00:03:18,894 --> 00:03:19,895 Zolt Shady. 43 00:03:20,025 --> 00:03:20,983 - Hi, my name is Alex. 44 00:03:21,070 --> 00:03:22,724 - Hi, my name is Daniyela. 45 00:03:22,854 --> 00:03:24,073 - Hi, my name is Giovanni. 46 00:03:24,247 --> 00:03:25,727 - Hi, my name is Brooklyn. 47 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:26,902 - Hi, my name is James. 48 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:28,033 - Hi, my name is Kyle. 49 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,774 - Hi. "My Name Is." 50 00:03:29,948 --> 00:03:31,385 - Well, no, you-- - [laughs] 51 00:03:31,559 --> 00:03:35,040 I'm s--I thought you mean it like the song. 52 00:03:35,127 --> 00:03:38,870 [laughs] Hi, my name is Nikki. 53 00:03:38,957 --> 00:03:40,742 - Let me just put my cape on. 54 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:46,835 I don't even know what these look like on. 55 00:03:46,965 --> 00:03:50,578 [laughs] Too much? 56 00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:53,145 [laughs] It's called the Eminem. 57 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,757 Um, it's based off-- in his music video 58 00:03:55,887 --> 00:03:57,019 "Without Me." 59 00:03:57,193 --> 00:04:01,850 Um, although I did leave my plastic ass at home, 60 00:04:01,937 --> 00:04:04,983 but this is my costume. 61 00:04:05,114 --> 00:04:07,508 - [laughs] This is art. 62 00:04:07,595 --> 00:04:10,989 [laughs] This is crazy. 63 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,687 Early Eminem, Slim Shady. 64 00:04:12,774 --> 00:04:14,819 This is the type of mask that he always wore 65 00:04:14,993 --> 00:04:17,518 in every concert, early 2000s, 66 00:04:17,605 --> 00:04:18,823 everything like that. 67 00:04:18,997 --> 00:04:22,174 - How and why does a white T-shirt become iconic? 68 00:04:22,305 --> 00:04:26,875 - Because, uh, there's a Slim Shady in all of us. 69 00:04:26,962 --> 00:04:28,180 When he wears that shirt, 70 00:04:28,311 --> 00:04:29,834 and when I wear that shirt as well, 71 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:32,576 it symbolizes unity. 72 00:04:32,663 --> 00:04:35,884 They, um, have an Eminem subreddit, r/eminem, 73 00:04:36,014 --> 00:04:37,799 and I enjoy being there. 74 00:04:37,929 --> 00:04:40,628 It's actually, uh, where I found my people. 75 00:04:40,802 --> 00:04:43,195 - So I follow him on all social medias. 76 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:45,328 Every social media that he has, that I have, 77 00:04:45,415 --> 00:04:46,590 I will follow him on. 78 00:04:46,721 --> 00:04:48,984 - I, like, followed him every-- 79 00:04:49,071 --> 00:04:50,115 not followed him everywhere, 'cause that 80 00:04:50,202 --> 00:04:52,074 sounds weird and creepy. [laughs] 81 00:04:52,204 --> 00:04:54,119 - You should see what my explore page 82 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:55,425 on Instagram looks like. 83 00:04:55,556 --> 00:04:57,514 Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies, 84 00:04:57,601 --> 00:04:59,386 Eminem, Eminem, horror movies, 85 00:04:59,516 --> 00:05:01,388 Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles. 86 00:05:01,518 --> 00:05:03,259 Stuff like that. 87 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:06,393 - I wake up every morning, and it is a habit. 88 00:05:06,567 --> 00:05:08,264 It's a ritualistic routine. 89 00:05:08,395 --> 00:05:10,527 I think I do have an addiction to Eminem. 90 00:05:10,614 --> 00:05:12,399 - Occasionally, like, I'll go into, like, 91 00:05:12,529 --> 00:05:15,619 a YouTube, like, rabbit hole where 92 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:17,447 I'll, like, watch old performances 93 00:05:17,578 --> 00:05:18,970 or music videos or interviews. 94 00:05:19,057 --> 00:05:21,059 And, like, what people could say in interviews 95 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:23,366 25 years ago versus what they could say now, like, 96 00:05:23,497 --> 00:05:24,933 half the shit he said was insane. 97 00:05:25,063 --> 00:05:25,934 [hip-hop music] 98 00:05:26,064 --> 00:05:27,457 - All right, y'all. 99 00:05:27,588 --> 00:05:28,589 Back here live on the "Rap City" thing. 100 00:05:28,676 --> 00:05:29,633 I'm looking for my man. 101 00:05:29,807 --> 00:05:31,418 My man is not-- 102 00:05:31,592 --> 00:05:32,549 - Ow! 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,595 Ow! 104 00:05:34,682 --> 00:05:37,728 [sped-up speech] 105 00:05:37,859 --> 00:05:39,426 - Yo, cut the cameras, man. 106 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,427 Come on, dog. 107 00:05:40,601 --> 00:05:42,037 Come on. Come on. 108 00:05:42,124 --> 00:05:43,125 You all right? - Hey! 109 00:05:43,299 --> 00:05:44,213 One... - Ladies and gentlemen-- 110 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:45,475 - And a-two, and a-three-- 111 00:05:45,606 --> 00:05:46,520 - Insane. 112 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:48,086 This guy's insane. 113 00:05:48,217 --> 00:05:50,872 - Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Eminem. 114 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,526 [imitates cheering crowd] Y'all give it up for Eminem. 115 00:05:52,656 --> 00:05:54,049 - [imitates cheering crowd] 116 00:05:54,136 --> 00:05:54,745 - What's up, dog? - What's up, man? 117 00:05:54,832 --> 00:05:56,530 How you doing? 118 00:05:56,660 --> 00:05:58,445 - That right there, it brought me back so much. 119 00:05:58,532 --> 00:06:01,839 Just the energy that he came in when he was onscreen 120 00:06:01,926 --> 00:06:03,232 was a different type of energy. 121 00:06:03,406 --> 00:06:05,277 [dramatic music] 122 00:06:05,408 --> 00:06:07,149 - This is an artist called Eminem. 123 00:06:07,236 --> 00:06:08,455 It's spelled funky. 124 00:06:08,585 --> 00:06:09,412 If you're going to pronounce it, 125 00:06:09,543 --> 00:06:11,022 it's like the candy. Eminem. 126 00:06:11,109 --> 00:06:13,198 - I'm keeping it gangster, homie. 127 00:06:13,329 --> 00:06:14,983 I'm keeping it gangster. 128 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:17,377 I am flexing my bum-bum. 129 00:06:17,464 --> 00:06:19,248 [laughter] 130 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:20,554 - There was a shock factor 131 00:06:20,684 --> 00:06:22,512 when I was first discovering Eminem. 132 00:06:22,599 --> 00:06:24,906 - Here's Eminem doing one of the best Michael Jackson 133 00:06:25,036 --> 00:06:26,386 impersonations I've ever seen. 134 00:06:26,516 --> 00:06:27,735 - He was definitely a loose cannon. 135 00:06:27,822 --> 00:06:29,214 - Mom! 136 00:06:29,345 --> 00:06:31,391 No, yes, you did molest me. 137 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:32,827 - This dude, he's got a good sense of humor, 138 00:06:32,914 --> 00:06:35,220 and he's willing to express his art, you know, 139 00:06:35,307 --> 00:06:36,700 with no boundaries. 140 00:06:36,831 --> 00:06:39,877 - I was 10 years old sitting at home watching MTV 141 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:42,053 in hopes to see the Backstreet Boys 142 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:43,751 or NSYNC come on, 143 00:06:43,881 --> 00:06:45,753 but it was Marshall Mathers. 144 00:06:45,883 --> 00:06:48,408 Slim Shady came on with "My Name Is," 145 00:06:48,538 --> 00:06:50,279 and my whole life changed after that. 146 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:51,411 [Eminem's "My Name Is"] 147 00:06:51,498 --> 00:06:53,674 - ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪ 148 00:06:53,804 --> 00:06:55,197 ♪ My name is, who ♪ 149 00:06:55,327 --> 00:06:57,199 ♪ My name is chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪ 150 00:06:57,286 --> 00:06:58,940 ♪ Hi, my name is, huh ♪ 151 00:06:59,114 --> 00:07:00,420 ♪ My name is ♪ 152 00:07:00,550 --> 00:07:03,074 - I was coming home from the police academy, 153 00:07:03,161 --> 00:07:05,425 and I hear, "Hi, my name is." 154 00:07:05,512 --> 00:07:07,383 And I was like, what is this? 155 00:07:07,514 --> 00:07:09,429 And so I listened to it all the way home. 156 00:07:09,559 --> 00:07:10,952 It's not like anything else I've heard before. 157 00:07:11,082 --> 00:07:12,562 I'm in. 158 00:07:12,693 --> 00:07:14,216 - ♪ Chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪ 159 00:07:14,346 --> 00:07:16,436 ♪ Hi, kids, do you like Primus ♪ 160 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:18,525 ♪ Wanna see me stick nine-inch nails ♪ 161 00:07:18,612 --> 00:07:19,700 ♪ Through each one of my eyelids ♪ 162 00:07:19,787 --> 00:07:22,006 - You want to copy me and do exactly what I did? 163 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:24,226 Try 'cid and get fucked up worse than my life is? 164 00:07:24,313 --> 00:07:26,794 I was like, what? Yeah! 165 00:07:26,968 --> 00:07:28,143 Sign me up. 166 00:07:28,273 --> 00:07:29,492 I'll do it. [laughs] 167 00:07:29,579 --> 00:07:31,015 - ♪ My brain's dead weight ♪ 168 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:32,452 ♪ I'm trying to get my head straight ♪ 169 00:07:32,626 --> 00:07:34,192 ♪ But I can't figure out which Spice Girl ♪ 170 00:07:34,323 --> 00:07:35,455 ♪ I want to impregnate ♪ 171 00:07:35,585 --> 00:07:36,804 - Most of these rappers back then, 172 00:07:36,891 --> 00:07:38,762 they want to portray this, I'm from the streets, 173 00:07:38,893 --> 00:07:40,938 I'm a thug, I'm this, don't fuck with me. 174 00:07:41,025 --> 00:07:42,113 He's just being him. 175 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,767 He's just having a grand time. 176 00:07:43,898 --> 00:07:45,508 - ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪ 177 00:07:45,595 --> 00:07:46,988 ♪ My name is, who ♪ 178 00:07:47,162 --> 00:07:49,207 ♪ My name is chicka-chicka Slim Shady ♪ 179 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:51,906 - Nobody was making those type of music videos. 180 00:07:51,993 --> 00:07:54,735 Most people were like, half-naked, dancing, 181 00:07:54,822 --> 00:07:56,127 doing, like, these big numbers. 182 00:07:56,214 --> 00:07:58,173 And he had, like, storylines. 183 00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:00,218 - ♪ 99% of my life, I was lied to ♪ 184 00:08:00,392 --> 00:08:03,221 ♪ I just found out my mom does more dope than I do ♪ 185 00:08:03,395 --> 00:08:06,964 - When he started going at these pop culture people, 186 00:08:07,095 --> 00:08:11,142 making fun of them to the T, I'm just like, oh, my God, 187 00:08:11,229 --> 00:08:14,102 dude, this guy really doesn't give a fuck. 188 00:08:14,232 --> 00:08:15,930 - I was, like, hypnotized. 189 00:08:16,017 --> 00:08:18,585 Like, my eyes were, like, glued to the screen, 190 00:08:18,672 --> 00:08:24,373 and that kickstarted my obsession with him. 191 00:08:24,460 --> 00:08:27,855 - We be live in Times Square, "Total Request Live," 192 00:08:28,029 --> 00:08:30,031 with the big videos, the most requested ones. 193 00:08:30,161 --> 00:08:31,511 How about a round of applause for Eminem? 194 00:08:31,598 --> 00:08:32,555 - Hi. 195 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:33,687 - Making his-- 196 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:35,645 "TRL" at the time was new. 197 00:08:35,776 --> 00:08:37,691 It was always our intent to have it be 198 00:08:37,821 --> 00:08:40,520 an exact reflection of our audience. 199 00:08:40,694 --> 00:08:41,999 It was like, what if we gave one hour of this network 200 00:08:42,086 --> 00:08:43,261 to the fans? 201 00:08:43,392 --> 00:08:44,262 And let's ask them what they want. 202 00:08:44,393 --> 00:08:45,263 Let's take their requests. 203 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:46,613 I was a radio guy, and we did a lot 204 00:08:46,787 --> 00:08:48,005 of, like, requests in radio. 205 00:08:48,092 --> 00:08:49,050 Who did you want to see? 206 00:08:49,224 --> 00:08:50,704 Congratulations. 207 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:52,009 "Slim Shady" is going to number two next week... 208 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:53,054 - Thank you. - On the charts. 209 00:08:53,184 --> 00:08:54,446 - Thank you. 210 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:55,578 - That deserves a round of applause right there. 211 00:08:55,709 --> 00:08:58,233 - With a little--little bit of help from MTV. 212 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,017 - I've seen fans. I've seen it all. 213 00:09:00,148 --> 00:09:03,847 I've never seen anything like Marshall, Eminem fans, ever. 214 00:09:03,978 --> 00:09:05,370 - My name is! 215 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:06,850 - How they show up, what they look like, 216 00:09:06,981 --> 00:09:09,766 the connection that they have with this artist, 217 00:09:09,853 --> 00:09:11,638 it's really deep. 218 00:09:11,725 --> 00:09:12,769 - The reason why we're here today 219 00:09:12,856 --> 00:09:14,249 is because of his creation of "Stan." 220 00:09:14,379 --> 00:09:16,425 He created a culture that is 221 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:18,253 so out of the boundary 222 00:09:18,340 --> 00:09:20,298 of regular pop culture 223 00:09:20,429 --> 00:09:22,170 that he made his own term. 224 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,433 - Anything I can grab on Eminem, I'll find. 225 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,871 Over a thousand interviews I've watched, rewatched. 226 00:09:28,002 --> 00:09:30,091 He was the first one where I was like, you know what? 227 00:09:30,221 --> 00:09:31,483 I could marry this guy. [laughs] 228 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:33,616 - I would say that I'm a stan. 229 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:36,663 I know three albums back to back lyrically, 230 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:38,969 every single word of--of everything. 231 00:09:39,143 --> 00:09:42,669 I remember being him for the talent show when I was 232 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:44,845 11 and dressing up, white T-shirt. 233 00:09:44,975 --> 00:09:46,411 I sprayed my hair yellow. 234 00:09:46,542 --> 00:09:49,153 - When I was five my brother exposed me to his songs, 235 00:09:49,327 --> 00:09:51,721 and I kept listening to it over and over, 236 00:09:51,808 --> 00:09:53,331 and all my friends were like, oh, my God. 237 00:09:53,462 --> 00:09:56,160 Like, girl, you need to calm down. 238 00:09:56,291 --> 00:09:58,946 - I have a book, a specific book that I made. 239 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,296 When I see Eminem, [clicks tongue] 240 00:10:01,383 --> 00:10:02,123 I put it in the book. 241 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:08,956 - There was a point in time where every single magazine 242 00:10:09,043 --> 00:10:12,263 cover you looked at or saw, no matter where you were, 243 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:13,874 Marshall was on the cover. 244 00:10:13,961 --> 00:10:16,790 [dramatic music] 245 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,748 ♪ ♪ 246 00:10:18,922 --> 00:10:22,491 - For so many people admiring you that much 247 00:10:22,578 --> 00:10:24,711 and having such a strong reaction to you, 248 00:10:24,885 --> 00:10:27,539 it must have been, like, a high or something. 249 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:30,412 - And the winner is Eminem, "My Name Is." 250 00:10:30,499 --> 00:10:32,893 - I want to thank all the fans 251 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:34,851 that made "Slim Shady" possible. 252 00:10:35,025 --> 00:10:37,114 - All of a sudden, you're skyrocketed into fame, 253 00:10:37,201 --> 00:10:39,160 and it's everything you've ever wanted, 254 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:40,378 everything you ever dreamed of. 255 00:10:40,552 --> 00:10:42,946 I can't even imagine that. 256 00:10:43,077 --> 00:10:46,515 - Has it ever felt normal in any sense of that word? 257 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:49,213 - Well, none of this is normal. 258 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:50,562 None of it's normal. 259 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:52,652 Once the "Hi, My Name Is" video, 260 00:10:52,826 --> 00:10:57,569 once MTV accepted that and played it, 261 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,616 it was like a fucking switch went off overnight. 262 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:03,358 And all of a sudden, I woke up the next day from that, 263 00:11:03,445 --> 00:11:07,405 and my entire life was changed forever. 264 00:11:07,579 --> 00:11:10,191 Um, uh, we're gonna go to, uh, my old house, 265 00:11:10,321 --> 00:11:11,409 and I'm going to knock on the door 266 00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:12,541 and see if I can get in 267 00:11:12,628 --> 00:11:14,412 'cause I left something in my room. 268 00:11:14,543 --> 00:11:15,979 This is the house. 269 00:11:16,153 --> 00:11:17,981 See back there, that used to be a garage. 270 00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:20,462 One of my longtime friends, DeShaun Holton. 271 00:11:20,592 --> 00:11:21,985 He's a rapper too. His name is Proof. 272 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:23,770 He used to take me up in the lunchroom at Osborn. 273 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:25,380 - What's up, dog? 274 00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:27,774 - I used to battle, like, a lot of kids in the school. 275 00:11:27,861 --> 00:11:29,689 - Proof was Eminem's best friend. 276 00:11:29,776 --> 00:11:32,126 He was there from the beginning. 277 00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:34,171 Proof gave him a lot of the confidence 278 00:11:34,302 --> 00:11:35,477 and a lot of courage. 279 00:11:35,651 --> 00:11:36,565 - The illest story is we used to do 280 00:11:36,652 --> 00:11:37,914 the "White Men Can't Jump" thing. 281 00:11:38,001 --> 00:11:39,437 I used to go in to sneak him-- 282 00:11:39,568 --> 00:11:41,048 I used to sneak him into Osborn, 283 00:11:41,178 --> 00:11:42,397 and everybody would be like, I'll battle you, man. 284 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:43,572 I'll battle. 285 00:11:43,746 --> 00:11:45,748 I'm like, you ain't can't battle me. 286 00:11:45,835 --> 00:11:47,402 Why don't you battle him? 287 00:11:47,532 --> 00:11:49,012 And they'd be like, oh, the white boy? 288 00:11:49,143 --> 00:11:51,232 [laughs] I'ma kill him! 289 00:11:51,362 --> 00:11:52,537 I'ma kill him! 290 00:11:52,668 --> 00:11:53,800 Then he'd come out busting a rhyme-- 291 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:55,627 - [trilling tongue] 292 00:11:55,758 --> 00:11:56,933 - Everybody and they friends like-- 293 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:58,369 - [laughs] 294 00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:00,981 - One of the reasons I love Eminem's story 295 00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:04,680 is because he didn't set out to become famous. 296 00:12:04,854 --> 00:12:06,987 He loves his art. He loves what he does. 297 00:12:07,074 --> 00:12:08,858 - Hello, I'm Slim Shady. 298 00:12:08,945 --> 00:12:11,165 - I don't think he ever could have seen 299 00:12:11,252 --> 00:12:13,776 where it would have gone to. 300 00:12:13,907 --> 00:12:16,170 - I cut class-- don't tell my mother-- 301 00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:17,867 and... [laughs] 302 00:12:17,954 --> 00:12:19,695 And we were sitting in my boy's house, 303 00:12:19,826 --> 00:12:23,612 and we had MTV playing, and my boys were just like, 304 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,440 oh, just another white rapper. 305 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:27,311 And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 306 00:12:27,442 --> 00:12:29,879 I've never heard anybody do it like he did it. 307 00:12:30,053 --> 00:12:31,620 And that's when I started going down that wormhole. 308 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,491 [dial-up modem beeping] 309 00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:35,102 Where did he come from? 310 00:12:35,232 --> 00:12:37,582 Where was his origin story? 311 00:12:37,713 --> 00:12:39,280 - ♪ Bus it, what? ♪ 312 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:41,935 ♪ It's only fair to warn I was born with a set of horns ♪ 313 00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:44,502 ♪ And metaphors attached to my dang umbilical cord ♪ 314 00:12:44,676 --> 00:12:47,462 ♪ Warlord of rap that'll bash you with a 2x4 board ♪ 315 00:12:47,549 --> 00:12:50,030 ♪ And smash into your Honda Accord with a four-door Ford ♪ 316 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,510 [laughter] 317 00:12:55,122 --> 00:12:58,255 ♪ Look, any rapper saying those kind of rhymes ♪ 318 00:12:58,342 --> 00:13:00,954 ♪ In this day and age, in this period of time ♪ 319 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:03,304 ♪ Trying to battle Eminem is worse than David Starr ♪ 320 00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:05,785 ♪ Trying to battle Proof, Eye-Kyu, B-Fat, and Bizarre ♪ 321 00:13:05,872 --> 00:13:07,308 [laughter] 322 00:13:07,438 --> 00:13:09,919 - When I found out that this is a battle rap rapper, 323 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:13,444 and rapping all these Black rappers in Detroit? 324 00:13:13,531 --> 00:13:14,968 - ♪ Look, my face is pale ♪ 325 00:13:15,098 --> 00:13:16,665 ♪ But you look like you seen a ghost ♪ 326 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,101 - I knew this was a matter of time 327 00:13:18,232 --> 00:13:19,799 that this guy was going to make it. 328 00:13:19,973 --> 00:13:21,278 - I've been rhyming a long time, 329 00:13:21,365 --> 00:13:23,324 and battle rap is everything, 330 00:13:23,454 --> 00:13:24,934 you know what I'm saying? 331 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:30,070 It is the equivalent of being completely vetted in hip-hop, 332 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,245 you know what I'm saying? 333 00:13:31,332 --> 00:13:33,073 Because you learn crowd control, 334 00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:35,336 those lyrical choices, that storytelling. 335 00:13:35,466 --> 00:13:37,512 That's not stuff that you can make up. 336 00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:39,122 You can't fake that. 337 00:13:39,253 --> 00:13:41,603 - Eminem is forged in battle rap. 338 00:13:41,777 --> 00:13:44,258 He's what I call a natural-born killer. 339 00:13:44,345 --> 00:13:46,173 And then he took that to the Rap Olympics, 340 00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:50,177 where all the best rappers battle for number one. 341 00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:51,874 - ♪ I'ma tell you this for your own benefit ♪ 342 00:13:52,005 --> 00:13:53,528 ♪ Your shit was dope as hell ♪ 343 00:13:53,615 --> 00:13:55,182 ♪ Especially when you wrote 90% of it ♪ 344 00:13:55,312 --> 00:13:59,099 The first prize was $500, and I needed that $500, man, 345 00:13:59,186 --> 00:14:00,361 and I lost. 346 00:14:00,491 --> 00:14:02,189 I was fucking devastated. 347 00:14:02,363 --> 00:14:07,020 - For him to lose, he was crushed. 348 00:14:07,194 --> 00:14:09,718 But an intern approached him and said, "Hey, man, 349 00:14:09,805 --> 00:14:11,285 can I have one of your tapes?" 350 00:14:11,372 --> 00:14:13,504 And then he left to go back home to Detroit 351 00:14:13,591 --> 00:14:16,246 to try to continue to make music. 352 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:19,032 - All of a sudden, we get a call from Jimmy Iovine 353 00:14:19,162 --> 00:14:21,904 and Dre himself saying, "We want to meet with you. 354 00:14:22,035 --> 00:14:23,514 We like your tape." 355 00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:25,690 - Dr. Dre, to me, 356 00:14:25,821 --> 00:14:28,868 is the greatest producer of our time. 357 00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:31,653 - ♪ You never been on a ride like this before ♪ 358 00:14:31,783 --> 00:14:33,698 ♪ With a producer who can rap and control the micstro ♪ 359 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:34,961 ♪ At the same time ♪ 360 00:14:35,091 --> 00:14:36,876 The first time I heard Eminem was in, 361 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:38,878 um, Jimmy's garage, where he used 362 00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:40,531 to have a listening section. 363 00:14:40,618 --> 00:14:42,664 And back then, it was just cassette tapes, 364 00:14:42,838 --> 00:14:44,709 and he popped this one in, and he said, 365 00:14:44,796 --> 00:14:46,146 "What do you think about this?" 366 00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,843 And it just happened to be Eminem's demo, 367 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:49,845 and it had five songs on it, and one of them 368 00:14:50,019 --> 00:14:52,804 was a song called "I Just Don't Give a Fuck." 369 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:54,981 - ♪ When you see me on your block with two Glocks ♪ 370 00:14:55,068 --> 00:14:56,808 ♪ Screaming fuck the world like Tupac ♪ 371 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,027 ♪ I just don't give a fuck ♪ 372 00:14:58,158 --> 00:15:00,334 - I thought it was just fucking fascinating. 373 00:15:00,421 --> 00:15:02,771 I had no idea that what I was listening to 374 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,425 was a white guy, right? 375 00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:05,817 I had no idea. 376 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,515 I just knew that I wanted to work with him. 377 00:15:07,602 --> 00:15:09,996 - Dre was just all in. 378 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:12,824 And when Dre likes something that much, 379 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,392 we really pay attention, especially me. 380 00:15:15,479 --> 00:15:19,222 So I was kind of like, OK, fly this guy out here. 381 00:15:19,353 --> 00:15:20,832 - And when you first met, 382 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,964 what did you think of each other? 383 00:15:22,095 --> 00:15:23,270 - I thought he was Tweety Bird. 384 00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:26,099 [laughter] 385 00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:28,188 No, 'cause he had this real-- - Fuck you. 386 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:31,931 - He had this real bright fucking yellow sweat suit on. 387 00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:33,149 - Man, if I hear one more thing 388 00:15:33,236 --> 00:15:35,717 about that goddamn sweat suit. 389 00:15:35,847 --> 00:15:37,588 - Why are you wearing a yellow sash? 390 00:15:37,762 --> 00:15:38,850 - The yellow sash. 391 00:15:39,025 --> 00:15:41,810 Um, in honor of Eminem's yellow jumpsuit 392 00:15:41,897 --> 00:15:43,855 the day he met Dre, which I think is just 393 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,553 such a magical moment in itself. 394 00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:47,990 - But he called me a banana when he met me, 395 00:15:48,077 --> 00:15:51,037 so it was on from there. 396 00:15:51,211 --> 00:15:53,822 - Dre has always been pushing the edges. 397 00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:56,956 And this guy starts on the edge, 398 00:15:57,086 --> 00:16:00,568 so it was a--it was a marriage made somewhere. 399 00:16:00,655 --> 00:16:02,309 [laughs] 400 00:16:02,439 --> 00:16:06,226 - Without Dre, I don't know where Eminem would be, 401 00:16:06,313 --> 00:16:09,664 and what shaped him in his earlier life 402 00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:12,493 carries on with him even now. 403 00:16:12,623 --> 00:16:14,147 [line beeps] 404 00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,366 - Hey, Em, what's going on? It's Paul. 405 00:16:16,497 --> 00:16:18,151 Uh, listen, if you wanna talk 406 00:16:18,281 --> 00:16:20,022 to those camera crews, go ahead, 407 00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:21,806 just don't say a bunch of dumb shit. 408 00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:23,417 All right, call me back. 409 00:16:23,591 --> 00:16:25,680 [line clicks] 410 00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:28,030 - There's a lot of method to this madness. 411 00:16:28,161 --> 00:16:30,772 I always keep this shit, Entertainer's Secret. 412 00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:33,383 Shh. Don't tell nobody. 413 00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:37,648 Um, it's, uh--actually, Rick Rubin told me about this, 414 00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:40,303 and ever since the day he told me about it, 415 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:43,785 I've been using it for the past seven years straight. 416 00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:47,006 I use it onstage. It's fucking incredible. 417 00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:51,271 Especially, like, you know, my voice only lasts so long, 418 00:16:51,401 --> 00:16:53,882 especially if I'm doing, like, some, like, 419 00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:55,579 screaming shit or something. 420 00:16:55,710 --> 00:16:59,322 So like, this is the--this is my best friend right here. 421 00:16:59,453 --> 00:17:01,498 - What's it taste like? 422 00:17:01,629 --> 00:17:03,544 - Uh, semen. 423 00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:06,329 Not that I know how that tastes. 424 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:11,900 But if I were to guess, I would say semen. 425 00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:13,510 I go through pens. 426 00:17:13,597 --> 00:17:15,338 I did go through a couple years 427 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:18,167 where I was trying to use red ink and blue ink, 428 00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:20,735 different colored inks for different color ideas, 429 00:17:20,822 --> 00:17:22,911 like different ideas and shit, but it didn't work. 430 00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:26,828 I just stuck to the black and just stayed with it. 431 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:29,483 Every time I write, there's different stages of it, 432 00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:32,921 and that's one of the reasons that I keep a book now 433 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,531 and I never get writer's block. 434 00:17:34,662 --> 00:17:37,969 ♪ ♪ 435 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,450 I'm always able to go back in my book 436 00:17:40,581 --> 00:17:43,758 and have unlimited ideas. 437 00:17:46,195 --> 00:17:49,459 Sometimes I just write my rhyming words down 438 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:52,332 and not the stuff in between, so that it can't be 439 00:17:52,419 --> 00:17:54,986 put together if someone finds it. 440 00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:03,560 - To see his lyric sheets, I mean, this is-- 441 00:18:03,647 --> 00:18:05,301 this is magic right here. 442 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:08,130 If I could own an original piece 443 00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:09,827 I would frame this in my home, 444 00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:11,090 and I'd point it out to any fucking people 445 00:18:11,177 --> 00:18:12,439 that walked in. 446 00:18:12,613 --> 00:18:14,267 I'd make them look at it with me. 447 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:16,573 I'd make them dissect it under a microscope with me. 448 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:19,185 I'd make them say, "oh, yo, this song-- 449 00:18:19,315 --> 00:18:20,708 this line went into this song." 450 00:18:20,838 --> 00:18:21,839 - I'm looking at something 451 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:23,754 that resembles my grocery list. 452 00:18:25,147 --> 00:18:26,540 I write like this. 453 00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:27,628 My husband hates it. 454 00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:29,978 I seriously write the same way. 455 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:32,154 I want to pick this man's brain. 456 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:33,938 - Like, it's a lot of just, like, scribbles 457 00:18:34,069 --> 00:18:34,983 and, like, thoughts. 458 00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:38,639 But wow, this is-- 459 00:18:38,813 --> 00:18:40,815 yeah. [laughs] 460 00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:42,730 There's--there's a lot of cursing on here. 461 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,253 But I think it says, 462 00:18:44,340 --> 00:18:46,734 "Fuck, I'm sick of duckin' in public." 463 00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:50,085 [soft music] 464 00:18:50,259 --> 00:18:53,001 - When I look at the handwritten lyrics, 465 00:18:53,088 --> 00:18:55,264 I feel like I see a busy brain. 466 00:18:55,395 --> 00:19:00,400 ♪ ♪ 467 00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:04,578 Seeing how he gets the things out of his brain 468 00:19:04,752 --> 00:19:07,842 that way definitely influenced me to get your thoughts out 469 00:19:07,929 --> 00:19:09,017 and making sense of them. 470 00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:10,236 - You know, I have a PhD, but it's not 471 00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:12,281 in typography or whatever. 472 00:19:12,412 --> 00:19:14,065 But it's like, it certainly looks like someone 473 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:18,157 who is dealing with some intense emotion. 474 00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:20,246 It looks like it was very scribbled down 475 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:21,856 kind of hastily, 476 00:19:21,943 --> 00:19:24,598 and trying to spontaneously capture something. 477 00:19:24,772 --> 00:19:27,340 ♪ 478 00:19:27,514 --> 00:19:30,299 - I think it was, like, a "Rolling Stone" interview. 479 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:32,562 They asked him if he ever thought about 480 00:19:32,693 --> 00:19:34,521 going to a shrink, and he said he don't need to 481 00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:37,698 'cause his music is his therapy, and honestly, 482 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:40,135 that's--that's the best therapy there is. 483 00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,050 Like, when you have an outlet, something that you're 484 00:19:42,224 --> 00:19:44,835 passionate about, and you use that. 485 00:19:44,922 --> 00:19:45,836 That's the best way. 486 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:49,536 ♪ 487 00:19:49,710 --> 00:19:53,496 - My childhood certainly wasn't the greatest. 488 00:19:53,583 --> 00:19:57,239 I always took that learning experiences from my childhood 489 00:19:57,326 --> 00:19:59,415 and life lessons and kind of was able 490 00:19:59,502 --> 00:20:03,680 to apply them through my music. 491 00:20:03,767 --> 00:20:06,466 - I definitely find relatability in him 492 00:20:06,553 --> 00:20:09,773 because he's somebody who has written 493 00:20:09,904 --> 00:20:13,342 so honestly about struggling, and I feel like that's why 494 00:20:13,429 --> 00:20:16,215 so many people can relate to him. 495 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:17,694 - I had the greatest life in the world, 496 00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,348 coming from a single-parent home. 497 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:20,784 You know, my mother never had a job. 498 00:20:20,958 --> 00:20:22,656 I hate to say that, you know. 499 00:20:22,786 --> 00:20:25,572 But, um, it took a toll, man, being bounced around 500 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,269 from school to school to school to school to school, 501 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,705 from state to state. 502 00:20:28,836 --> 00:20:30,707 And friends come over and you don't 503 00:20:30,794 --> 00:20:33,536 want them to see your family's on welfare and shit, 504 00:20:33,623 --> 00:20:35,712 so you hide the cheese and shit like that. 505 00:20:35,843 --> 00:20:37,148 You know, that's real. 506 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,149 I mean, it's funny, but it's not funny, 507 00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:39,542 you know what I mean? 508 00:20:39,716 --> 00:20:41,327 It's like I look back on it like, damn, 509 00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:43,198 that's fucked up, you know, but-- 510 00:20:43,372 --> 00:20:46,723 - My mom and I had a pretty unstable relationship 511 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:49,552 growing up, and there was a lot of struggles 512 00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:52,729 with finances 'cause it was just the two of us. 513 00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:55,341 I also came out as a transgender man, 514 00:20:55,428 --> 00:20:57,386 and transness, or even queerness, 515 00:20:57,473 --> 00:21:01,608 was not a conversation in the area I grew up in. 516 00:21:01,738 --> 00:21:06,177 Being born female, it was a very isolating, like, 517 00:21:06,352 --> 00:21:10,312 feeling to not really know anyone else 518 00:21:10,399 --> 00:21:12,009 who I could relate to. 519 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:17,624 His struggles with bullying also lined up with mine. 520 00:21:17,798 --> 00:21:20,191 There was a lot of moments where I didn't make-- 521 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:24,283 like, I wasn't sure if I would make it out on the other side. 522 00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:27,111 - Eminem was bullied relentlessly 523 00:21:27,198 --> 00:21:29,113 in elementary school. 524 00:21:29,244 --> 00:21:32,726 And it's horribly tragic to me because even now 525 00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:34,336 I carry some of the traumas 526 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:38,732 of my own life from being bullied, 527 00:21:38,819 --> 00:21:41,822 and I can feel that in some of the music he's written. 528 00:21:41,952 --> 00:21:43,824 - So in the song "Brain Damage," 529 00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:48,045 Eminem or Marshall is getting bullied at school. 530 00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,961 [Eminem's "Brain Damage"] 531 00:21:51,135 --> 00:21:58,229 ♪ 532 00:22:09,545 --> 00:22:11,808 - You know, bleeding on the carpet 533 00:22:11,895 --> 00:22:15,029 and then having your parent being like, look at you, 534 00:22:15,116 --> 00:22:16,770 you're getting blood all over my rugs-- 535 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,033 I felt that. 536 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,165 Growing up, I would get into fights. 537 00:22:21,296 --> 00:22:24,255 I'd get into fights a good amount. 538 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:27,346 I'd get bullied from other kids 539 00:22:27,476 --> 00:22:30,174 calling me a faggot for wearing tight pants 540 00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:32,568 because I was a skater kid. 541 00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:34,614 Going into my room, and then putting on 542 00:22:34,744 --> 00:22:38,661 a song like "Brain Damage," that's what helped me. 543 00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:40,359 - It was sophomore year, and I went to go 544 00:22:40,533 --> 00:22:42,448 to a Super Bowl party with my friends. 545 00:22:42,578 --> 00:22:44,101 We were watching the Super Bowl, 546 00:22:44,232 --> 00:22:45,233 and I had my hands in my head-- 547 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,322 my head in my hands like this, 548 00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:49,846 sitting on the ground with my stomach on the ground, 549 00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:51,674 looking up at the TV. 550 00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:55,374 And a kid on the couch spilled his iced tea 551 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:58,289 and went, "Oh, I know what I can use to pick that up with," 552 00:22:58,464 --> 00:23:00,117 and grabbed his other friend. 553 00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:01,902 They picked me up by my feet and used my hair as a mop 554 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:06,167 and then threw me on the ground, and I was-- 555 00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:10,084 these were supposed to be my friends. 556 00:23:10,214 --> 00:23:13,566 It made me sometimes not want to go to school, 557 00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:17,657 but I went because I had Marshall's music. 558 00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:19,528 [bell rings] 559 00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:21,312 I would put my CD player on 560 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,533 and just walk through the hallways. 561 00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:26,666 He inspired me to write. 562 00:23:26,753 --> 00:23:28,885 I write poetry. 563 00:23:29,059 --> 00:23:32,933 I loved how he could just bend the English language, 564 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:35,544 use different words to rhyme off other words 565 00:23:35,675 --> 00:23:37,981 that necessarily wouldn't rhyme, 566 00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:41,332 like orange, door hinge, syringe. 567 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:45,424 That's great. [laughs] 568 00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:50,429 His music made me feel like I wasn't alone in this world, 569 00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:52,343 with what I was going through. 570 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:54,433 [somber music] 571 00:23:54,563 --> 00:23:56,347 - Hip-hop was the most important thing 572 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,393 that empowered me as a kid. 573 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,787 It made me feel tough when I wasn't. 574 00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:04,007 I was a scrawny little kid growing up on 8 Mile, 575 00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:07,184 walking up the fucking block, put headphones on, 576 00:24:07,271 --> 00:24:10,623 and it made me feel powerful. 577 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:13,495 Hip-hop, it taught me how to throw my first punch, 578 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:16,019 gave me the confidence. It was like my dad. 579 00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:18,413 And it was the only thing that made me empowered. 580 00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:19,980 It made me feel good about myself. 581 00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:21,590 And when I started being able to write rhymes 582 00:24:21,721 --> 00:24:23,636 and figured out I could do it, 583 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:27,901 that's where the feeling comes from. 584 00:24:28,031 --> 00:24:31,252 - As a teenager, I definitely had a lot of anger. 585 00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:34,298 I haven't met my father in person since I was probably, 586 00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:37,737 like, one or two or something. 587 00:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,826 But I never had anybody that I could relate to 588 00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:43,003 in that regard growing up. 589 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:44,526 Whenever he would talk about his father too, 590 00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:46,615 he always sounded so angry. 591 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:49,444 So I always gravitated more towards 592 00:24:49,575 --> 00:24:51,533 the angrier-sounding Eminem, 593 00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,231 and Slim Shady was his alter ego 594 00:24:54,318 --> 00:24:55,711 and split personality for that. 595 00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:58,540 - Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers. 596 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,673 Could you briefly tell us where one stops, 597 00:25:00,803 --> 00:25:02,065 the other one begins, and the difference 598 00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:03,893 between the three different characters? 599 00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:07,157 - Marshall Mathers stops when the Bacardi kicks in, 600 00:25:07,288 --> 00:25:09,029 and then it's Slim Shady. 601 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:11,118 - Marshall is the human being where 602 00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:15,905 the heart and the human experience come from. 603 00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:19,561 Eminem is the artist through which Slim Shady 604 00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:21,389 and Marshall are channeled. 605 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,478 That's where you see the skill and the talent. 606 00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:27,134 And then Slim Shady is this cartoon character. 607 00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:30,311 - Slim is, uh, the jokester, the hey, 608 00:25:30,441 --> 00:25:31,921 I'm here for a good time. 609 00:25:32,095 --> 00:25:34,054 - A crazy son of a bitch... 610 00:25:34,141 --> 00:25:37,057 [laughs] Um, that I love. 611 00:25:37,144 --> 00:25:40,103 - He has, like, this I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude. 612 00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:42,497 - He's like a psycho, but in a good way. 613 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:45,021 Uh, says whatever the fuck he wants to say. 614 00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:48,068 He'll probably kill if you look at him the wrong way. 615 00:25:48,155 --> 00:25:49,199 - I'm putting the mask on. 616 00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:51,071 I'm like, I can be me. 617 00:25:51,158 --> 00:25:52,333 I can say what I want. 618 00:25:52,463 --> 00:25:54,509 I can flip a fucking desk if I needed to. 619 00:25:54,683 --> 00:25:56,424 Even though he was just being himself, 620 00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:57,730 people didn't like that. 621 00:25:57,904 --> 00:25:59,775 People did not like that at all. 622 00:25:59,906 --> 00:26:00,646 - I mean, let's just say the least, 623 00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:02,386 it was a trying time. 624 00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:06,129 We were criticized enormously for putting his music out. 625 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:09,698 - That controversy was covered extensively by the media. 626 00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:11,047 - While Black rappers often get a pass 627 00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:12,396 on lyrical nihilism, 628 00:26:12,527 --> 00:26:14,311 Eminem, who's white, has been taking 629 00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:17,358 some intense critical heat for his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes. 630 00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:19,316 - In Eminem's songs, women are portrayed 631 00:26:19,403 --> 00:26:22,102 as little more than strippers, 632 00:26:22,232 --> 00:26:24,974 punching bags, and sperm receptacles. 633 00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:26,976 - It's so sad to see those parents dropping 634 00:26:27,107 --> 00:26:28,761 their children off and saying, 635 00:26:28,891 --> 00:26:30,371 I don't know what the lyrics are all about. 636 00:26:30,501 --> 00:26:33,113 [Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons, 'Spring'" 637 00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:37,900 ♪ ♪ 638 00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:39,946 - Perhaps one of the most interesting words 639 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,950 in the English language today is the word "fuck." 640 00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:45,342 Out of all of the English words 641 00:26:45,429 --> 00:26:47,606 that begin with the letter F, 642 00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,913 "fuck" is the only word that is referred to as the F-word. 643 00:26:51,044 --> 00:26:55,309 It's the one magical word, just by its sound, 644 00:26:55,396 --> 00:26:59,269 can describe pain, pleasure, hate, and love. 645 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,360 In English, fuck falls into many grammatical categories. 646 00:27:03,491 --> 00:27:05,711 As a transitive verb, for instance: 647 00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:07,713 "John fucked Shirley." 648 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,758 As an intransitive verb: 649 00:27:09,932 --> 00:27:11,586 "Shirley fucks." 650 00:27:11,673 --> 00:27:13,022 It can be used as an adjective, 651 00:27:13,153 --> 00:27:16,330 such as, "John's doing all the fucking work." 652 00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:18,332 As part of an adverb: 653 00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:20,726 "Shirley talks too fucking much." 654 00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:22,423 As a noun: 655 00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:24,381 "I don't give a fuck." 656 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:26,993 With all of these multipurpose applications, 657 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,083 how can anyone be offended when you use the word? 658 00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:33,173 Say it loudly and proudly. 659 00:27:33,303 --> 00:27:37,003 Fuck you! 660 00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:38,569 - You rap about raping and killing women, 661 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:39,832 but you really don't do that, do you, Eminem? 662 00:27:39,962 --> 00:27:41,137 - Yes. - You do rape and kill women? 663 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:42,443 - Yes. 664 00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:43,966 - Uh, are you amazed at the, uh, 665 00:27:44,053 --> 00:27:45,576 the firestorm that has begun, and are you afraid 666 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,274 it could be a career-destroyer? 667 00:27:47,404 --> 00:27:49,232 - Um, I'm not worried about it because anybody 668 00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:50,756 with half a brain is going to be able to tell 669 00:27:50,843 --> 00:27:52,932 when I'm joking and when I'm serious. 670 00:27:53,106 --> 00:27:54,890 With the first album, "The Slim Shady LP," 671 00:27:55,021 --> 00:27:57,240 all of a sudden, now it's important. 672 00:27:57,371 --> 00:28:00,069 What I have to say is important. 673 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,857 I remember one of the first times signing autographs, 674 00:28:04,944 --> 00:28:06,946 there'd be, like, a line out the door, 675 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,123 and somebody would be like, yo, I just want you to know, 676 00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:12,952 man, you helped me so much for--for this or for that. 677 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,388 So now I'm like... 678 00:28:14,475 --> 00:28:15,737 What's your name? 679 00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:17,521 Writing a long paragraph for them and shit, 680 00:28:17,652 --> 00:28:19,523 and signing their name, and people are like, yo, 681 00:28:19,654 --> 00:28:20,916 can you speed it up a little bit? 682 00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:21,743 'Cause we're not going to get to everybody. 683 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:22,788 Hello. - Can I have a hug? 684 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:24,267 - How you doing? 685 00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:26,617 I was living inside it when it was all new to me 686 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,707 and I still didn't understand it. 687 00:28:28,837 --> 00:28:31,492 - You know, this guy has been somebody 688 00:28:31,622 --> 00:28:33,712 that I've been trying to meet for a long time, 689 00:28:33,842 --> 00:28:37,803 and he's not easy to get close to. 690 00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:41,328 Since I was 14, I had this fandom in me 691 00:28:41,502 --> 00:28:43,156 that I wanted to, like, express, 692 00:28:43,286 --> 00:28:44,810 and I just didn't know how to. 693 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:50,685 I remember the first portrait tattoo that I got, 694 00:28:50,859 --> 00:28:54,297 being really anxious about the pain. 695 00:28:54,471 --> 00:28:59,825 It's like a scratch, quite a sharp scratch, 696 00:28:59,912 --> 00:29:01,914 and it depends kind of 697 00:29:02,001 --> 00:29:03,219 what it is that you're having done. 698 00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:05,787 Like, the lines are the worst because it's 699 00:29:05,961 --> 00:29:08,007 being dragged against your skin. 700 00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,270 But I fell in love with the process 701 00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:12,751 of tattooing that day. 702 00:29:12,881 --> 00:29:15,971 I've kind of described it as, I walked in one person 703 00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:19,540 and left a different person. 704 00:29:19,714 --> 00:29:22,978 And then it kind of snowballed after that. 705 00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,546 In 2020, I set the Guinness World Record 706 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,332 for having the most tattoos of the same musician. 707 00:29:29,463 --> 00:29:32,596 It has become my identity. 708 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:36,122 Now that I've got the ink, I feel like 709 00:29:36,296 --> 00:29:38,689 I've got to have a possibility of meeting him. 710 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,822 [flashbulbs bursting] 711 00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:42,345 - The first time I met Marshall was 712 00:29:42,476 --> 00:29:44,086 for the "Rolling Stone" cover. 713 00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:47,263 I was just shown into, like, a conference room, 714 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,091 and no one else was in there. 715 00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:51,224 And I sort of asked the security guy to let me in. 716 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:52,921 Like, just, hey, is Marshall around? 717 00:29:53,052 --> 00:29:54,836 I just want to say hi, and all that stuff. 718 00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:56,664 So he pointed to a door that I didn't 719 00:29:56,751 --> 00:29:58,971 realize was the bathroom. 720 00:29:59,058 --> 00:30:02,713 And, uh, and I opened it up, and I heard him puking. 721 00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:03,932 [toilet flushes] 722 00:30:04,063 --> 00:30:05,542 He came out of the stall. 723 00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,109 I was like, uh, hi, Marshall, 724 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,328 it's really nice to meet you. 725 00:30:08,415 --> 00:30:09,546 Put my hand out. 726 00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:10,417 I'm Anthony from "Rolling Stone," 727 00:30:10,504 --> 00:30:12,811 like, super dork. 728 00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:14,725 And he just looked at me and, like, burped... 729 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:15,901 [belching sound effect] 730 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:17,163 And, like, walked out. 731 00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:20,209 [hip-hop music] 732 00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:23,343 One of the three venues we went to that first night was, 733 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:25,998 like, a 16-year-old's birthday party. 734 00:30:26,172 --> 00:30:28,174 You know, it was basically Beatlemania. 735 00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:31,394 They were grabbing at him, pulling at his shirt. 736 00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,570 The police were there to, like, make sure 737 00:30:33,701 --> 00:30:35,224 that the limo got in and out. 738 00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:36,791 There were girls, like, putting their boobs 739 00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:38,532 on the glass of the car. 740 00:30:38,619 --> 00:30:40,534 I remember him saying, like, you're pretty cute. 741 00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:43,842 I love you too, but I'm not going to jail. 742 00:30:44,016 --> 00:30:46,235 The night went from, you know, then until 743 00:30:46,366 --> 00:30:47,976 about 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning. 744 00:30:48,107 --> 00:30:49,238 And for the whole time, 745 00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:50,849 he didn't speak a word to me at all. 746 00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:53,242 ♪ ♪ 747 00:30:53,373 --> 00:30:57,029 - So I've got my little circle of family and friends, 748 00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,031 people that I've basically grown up with, 749 00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:00,380 because I feel like, at this point, 750 00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:03,078 anybody that I meet after this only knows me 751 00:31:03,209 --> 00:31:06,560 for Eminem or Slim Shady and doesn't know Marshall. 752 00:31:06,647 --> 00:31:08,605 So that's why I keep those friends around, 753 00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:10,259 'cause I know that those are the people that 754 00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:13,001 really care about me for me. 755 00:31:13,088 --> 00:31:15,134 - I think it was a defense against, like, 756 00:31:15,221 --> 00:31:17,658 the attention, the fame. Just survival. 757 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,007 Just trying to, like, take it in 758 00:31:19,138 --> 00:31:20,530 and figure out what the hell's happening, 759 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:21,880 'cause it happened so fast. 760 00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:24,404 [plane whooshing] 761 00:31:24,534 --> 00:31:26,014 ♪ ♪ 762 00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:27,886 - So you show it to Eminem? - Oh, yeah. 763 00:31:28,016 --> 00:31:28,930 - Yeah? - Yes. 764 00:31:29,017 --> 00:31:30,366 - Hello, Eminem. [laughter] 765 00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:33,804 [cheering] 766 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:35,284 [chainsaw buzzing] 767 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:38,287 - It's really an eye-opener to see how crazy 768 00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,115 some people do get for Eminem. 769 00:31:40,246 --> 00:31:42,596 I travel the world for him. 770 00:31:42,726 --> 00:31:44,598 [cheering] 771 00:31:44,728 --> 00:31:46,252 - Nobody here. 772 00:31:46,382 --> 00:31:47,862 Just me and the camera. 773 00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:49,690 - Oh, no. 774 00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:52,911 - Well, one of these have to be the jet for the day. 775 00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:54,695 Want that one? Or even that one. 776 00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:56,871 - Paul's telling me to put on my fucking seat belt, 777 00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:59,439 like if the plane crashes, it's gonna help. 778 00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:03,443 - I've seen Eminem in concert about 30-something times. 779 00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,314 15 different cities 780 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:07,360 in six, seven different countries. 781 00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:09,101 - I'm a parrot. 782 00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:11,625 I'm an embarrassed parrot in Paris. 783 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,148 - Oh, Eminem! - Eminem! 784 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,063 - Eminem! 785 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:18,284 - I made this costume because I wanted to wear 786 00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:21,983 something very eye-catching. 787 00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:24,638 They actually put me on camera 788 00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:26,292 throughout the stadium, 789 00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,598 and some random man put me on his shoulders 790 00:32:28,729 --> 00:32:30,905 to, like, showcase it. 791 00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:33,603 I was hoping, of course, he's gonna see my costume, 792 00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:35,083 and he's gonna think it's so cool, 793 00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:37,259 and he's gonna invite me on stage and meet me. 794 00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:39,087 - I was asking Paul today, I was like, uh, 795 00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:40,654 why do people want to talk to me? 796 00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,786 And he was like, you rap well, 797 00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:44,701 you say a lot of personal shit, 798 00:32:44,788 --> 00:32:45,920 and your music and your life is like 799 00:32:46,051 --> 00:32:48,488 the fucking "Jerry Springer Show." 800 00:32:48,618 --> 00:32:49,793 - "I didn't really start doing drugs 801 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,534 "until I rapped about them. 802 00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,710 "When I was on tour rapping about Vicodin 803 00:32:53,797 --> 00:32:55,277 "or mushrooms or ecstasy, 804 00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:57,236 people started throwing that shit my way." 805 00:32:57,323 --> 00:32:58,498 - "I couldn't believe the effect 806 00:32:58,585 --> 00:33:00,152 "my lyrics had on people. 807 00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:02,067 They thought we were literally drug addicts..." 808 00:33:02,197 --> 00:33:03,590 - "And that they could get backstage 809 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,678 "and bring us substances. 810 00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:06,027 "It was wild. 811 00:33:06,114 --> 00:33:07,942 Welcome to rock and roll." 812 00:33:08,073 --> 00:33:11,119 [cheering, chanting] 813 00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:14,296 - Yo, they were so loud, we couldn't rap 814 00:33:14,427 --> 00:33:15,776 for, like, 10 minutes. 815 00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:16,907 - Just seeing, like, how he was living 816 00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:18,474 and the breakneck pace, 817 00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,173 instant stardom, instant fandom, 818 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:22,348 and people starting to get obsessed. 819 00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:24,611 - What the fuck? 820 00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:25,960 - I was just rooting for him to, like-- 821 00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:27,048 to hang on for the rocket ride. 822 00:33:27,135 --> 00:33:28,658 - England, we're out of here. 823 00:33:28,745 --> 00:33:30,356 We love you. Thank you. 824 00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:32,053 Peace. 825 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,145 - Were you prepared for how much the fans 826 00:33:37,276 --> 00:33:39,017 would connect with you? 827 00:33:39,191 --> 00:33:44,370 - What I put out was very much, um, 828 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,851 raw and, like, just real, 829 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:51,638 as far as situations in my life and how I came up 830 00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:52,987 and shit like that. 831 00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:56,338 And I think that that's maybe one 832 00:33:56,425 --> 00:34:00,821 of the things that made some people 833 00:34:00,995 --> 00:34:02,475 feel like they could relate. 834 00:34:02,605 --> 00:34:06,044 It was a weird, strange kind of adjustment, 835 00:34:06,174 --> 00:34:10,570 and my personality wasn't well-equipped to handle that. 836 00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:11,527 [pulsating music] 837 00:34:11,658 --> 00:34:13,007 - "FANatic." 838 00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:14,748 - I've never gotten into any music 839 00:34:14,835 --> 00:34:16,619 like I've gotten into Eminem's lyrics. 840 00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:20,232 Like, once I started listening to him, I couldn't stop. 841 00:34:20,362 --> 00:34:22,364 We are at the restaurant that Eminem worked at 842 00:34:22,451 --> 00:34:24,018 before he made it big. 843 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:26,107 - Around the time Marshall's really starting to blow up, 844 00:34:26,194 --> 00:34:27,848 there's a million channels. 845 00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:29,328 You know, the Internet starts picking up. 846 00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:31,286 - This is where Eminem spent most of his time. 847 00:34:31,417 --> 00:34:32,635 - [gasps] This is the phone Eminem touched. 848 00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:35,899 - Content is just at its infancy of becoming king. 849 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:38,163 From a media standpoint, you are really 850 00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,339 now into the minutia of what it takes 851 00:34:40,469 --> 00:34:42,123 to hold on to an audience. 852 00:34:42,254 --> 00:34:44,125 And what that came down to for us, really, 853 00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:47,128 was like, the fan experience, we gotta go even more. 854 00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:48,608 - What was your best subject in school? 855 00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:50,436 - Oh, my God, none. 856 00:34:50,566 --> 00:34:52,264 Maybe English. I was all right at English. 857 00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:53,569 Everything else I was horrible at. 858 00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:55,354 I was the worst. 859 00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,747 - Fans just had such an insatiable appetite 860 00:34:57,834 --> 00:34:59,271 for more and more access 861 00:34:59,445 --> 00:35:00,794 to the artists that they loved. 862 00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:02,448 I mean, now you're really opening the floodgates 863 00:35:02,578 --> 00:35:03,840 for people who see that 864 00:35:03,927 --> 00:35:05,146 to live vicariously through that moment 865 00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:06,930 and go, "Well, that's all it takes. 866 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,889 "I'm just going to jump on a plane to Detroit 867 00:35:09,063 --> 00:35:11,109 "and go find 8 Mile and walk around, 868 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,154 "and I can just have the experience 869 00:35:13,285 --> 00:35:14,199 that they just showed me." 870 00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:16,244 - I was in my early 20s 871 00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:18,464 when I started working at Gilbert's. 872 00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:20,640 And I knew Eminem worked there, obviously, 873 00:35:20,727 --> 00:35:23,773 so I was like, fuck it, I'll go work where Eminem worked. 874 00:35:23,904 --> 00:35:25,471 Like, I always wanted to, 875 00:35:25,645 --> 00:35:28,213 so one more thing closer to Eminem. 876 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,737 And I stayed at that bitch for-- 877 00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:32,391 for, like, 10 years, 878 00:35:32,478 --> 00:35:34,219 'cause I'm like, he's going to come in. 879 00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:37,091 - That's crazy. 880 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,093 The whole neighborhood's gone now. 881 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:42,488 Me and Proof used to climb this tree all the time. 882 00:35:42,618 --> 00:35:44,664 And we would sit up in the tree, 883 00:35:44,794 --> 00:35:46,056 and he would always climb higher than me 884 00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:47,449 'cause he wasn't afraid of heights. 885 00:35:47,536 --> 00:35:48,668 I was. 886 00:35:48,755 --> 00:35:51,410 Um, and we would just sit there 887 00:35:51,584 --> 00:35:53,803 and talk about, like, what we was going to do 888 00:35:53,934 --> 00:35:55,675 once we made it as rappers. 889 00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:58,068 [dog barking] 890 00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:01,071 We shot here when the house had been condemned, 891 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,682 but it wasn't burnt down yet. 892 00:36:02,812 --> 00:36:04,727 And, like, I don't know if you've ever 893 00:36:04,858 --> 00:36:07,730 been to, like, a house, go back when you were a kid-- 894 00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:10,342 everything seems smaller. 895 00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:13,127 Bro, that motherfucker was like, here to here, 896 00:36:13,214 --> 00:36:14,868 you could touch the living room walls. 897 00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:16,522 We tried to buy it, and the city 898 00:36:16,652 --> 00:36:17,914 had already condemned it. 899 00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:21,962 So they wouldn't sell it to us. 900 00:36:22,092 --> 00:36:24,051 - Did it ever occur to you that fans would 901 00:36:24,138 --> 00:36:26,662 come here and make a pilgrimage? 902 00:36:26,749 --> 00:36:29,012 - It's cool that people care, 903 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:34,235 but it's also weird, still, 'cause you're like, 904 00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,150 but it's me, you know what I'm saying? 905 00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:38,370 Like, why? 906 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,068 It's really not that big of a deal. 907 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,331 - When Em was blowing up, 908 00:36:43,462 --> 00:36:46,552 there was lots of kids with white T-shirts 909 00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:48,206 and bleach blonde hair. 910 00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,599 But again, this might be by Em's own doing. 911 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:53,733 I mean, the videos, the imagery that he put out, 912 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:57,693 it's this million-white-boy army behind me, you know? 913 00:36:57,867 --> 00:36:59,217 Like, I am you. 914 00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:00,305 [Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady"] 915 00:37:00,392 --> 00:37:03,612 - ♪ May I have your attention, please ♪ 916 00:37:03,743 --> 00:37:07,486 ♪ Will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 917 00:37:07,616 --> 00:37:11,141 ♪ I repeat, will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 918 00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:13,622 ♪ ♪ 919 00:37:13,709 --> 00:37:17,931 - I was at the MTV Awards when Marshall came out 920 00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:19,628 and that gang of fucking dudes 921 00:37:19,759 --> 00:37:21,500 followed him up on stage. 922 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,458 Everyone around me kind of fucking locked in, 923 00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:24,894 like, what is-- what's going on right now? 924 00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:26,156 Who the fuck is that guy? 925 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,594 It was hands-down like, yeah. 926 00:37:28,724 --> 00:37:30,900 Like, that dude right there, he's--he's-- 927 00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:33,599 he's fucking-- he's cooler than me. 928 00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:35,383 - When Eminem came on the scene 929 00:37:35,514 --> 00:37:38,081 and when they seen the bleach blonde hair, 930 00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:40,562 it kind of infected the whole world. 931 00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:43,304 - So many kids were dyeing their hair yellow, 932 00:37:43,435 --> 00:37:44,958 dressing in, you know, baggy clothes. 933 00:37:45,088 --> 00:37:46,699 And I saw it. 934 00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:48,614 So, you know, I had guy friends that were like, oh, 935 00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:50,093 I'm Slim Shady, you know? 936 00:37:50,224 --> 00:37:51,181 And I'm just like, no, you're not. 937 00:37:54,054 --> 00:37:55,795 - It was who they were now. 938 00:37:55,882 --> 00:37:57,362 It wasn't like, hey, I'm going to go down to Times Square. 939 00:37:57,449 --> 00:37:59,059 I'm gonna--you know, I'm gonna pay homage 940 00:37:59,189 --> 00:38:00,016 to Em and, you know, do my thing. 941 00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:01,888 It was like, I'm becoming him. 942 00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,903 Nine years old, you know? 943 00:38:17,033 --> 00:38:19,427 One day I wanted to-- to make my hair blonde. 944 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:54,593 You feel like a real Shady. 945 00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,428 Every people who look at you, they-- 946 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:08,476 they know what is about, you know, Shady, man. 947 00:39:10,913 --> 00:39:14,743 - Eminem is absolutely like an unwilling cult leader. 948 00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:18,965 He's someone who did not want to take up that position 949 00:39:19,139 --> 00:39:22,272 but has been, to no fault of his own, 950 00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:24,144 kind of thrust into it. 951 00:39:24,274 --> 00:39:25,754 - Eminem, ladies and gentlemen. 952 00:39:25,928 --> 00:39:30,063 [cheering] 953 00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:31,586 Big day. - Right. 954 00:39:31,717 --> 00:39:32,718 - New album is out. - A really big day. 955 00:39:32,892 --> 00:39:33,893 - Yeah. - Really big day. 956 00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:35,285 - "Mathers LP" is out. 957 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:36,765 Now, that's your real name. 958 00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:37,723 Is, uh--does that mean... - It's my real name. 959 00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:38,941 - That this is sort of more of, like, 960 00:39:39,072 --> 00:39:40,856 reflective of who you are? Or, uh-- 961 00:39:40,987 --> 00:39:42,641 - I think so. 962 00:39:42,771 --> 00:39:44,947 I think I got kind of personal on this album, 963 00:39:45,078 --> 00:39:46,688 and just basically I just wanted 964 00:39:46,819 --> 00:39:48,516 to let people know that this is--this is the real me. 965 00:39:48,647 --> 00:39:50,431 This is all jokes aside, you know what I'm saying? 966 00:39:50,605 --> 00:39:52,128 There's a lot of songs on the album that 967 00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:53,695 are like that, that are like, you know, 968 00:39:53,782 --> 00:39:54,827 more serious than the first album. 969 00:39:54,914 --> 00:39:56,568 - Right. 970 00:39:56,655 --> 00:39:57,264 Actually, we're listening to it right now, 971 00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:58,613 a track called "Stan." 972 00:39:58,744 --> 00:39:59,701 It's the third track on the album. 973 00:39:59,832 --> 00:40:00,659 What's--what's all this about? 974 00:40:00,746 --> 00:40:02,269 Explain this to me. 975 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,314 - Um, basically, it's just about crazy fan mail 976 00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:06,229 that I get from people. 977 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,058 And it's about, like, a kid who is really sick, 978 00:40:09,145 --> 00:40:10,669 you know what I'm saying? 979 00:40:10,843 --> 00:40:12,932 And--and takes everything that I say literally. 980 00:40:13,019 --> 00:40:15,500 What inspired me to write "Stan" first 981 00:40:15,587 --> 00:40:18,111 was when I got the beat 982 00:40:18,198 --> 00:40:19,939 and it had the Dido sample in it. 983 00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:22,158 "But your picture on my wall reminds me 984 00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:23,377 that it's not so bad." 985 00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:26,249 I felt like, that is-- 986 00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:29,949 that line right there, that's LL Cool J to me. 987 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:33,387 Like, LL Cool J was one of the rappers 988 00:40:33,518 --> 00:40:36,564 who helped get me through so much childhood shit. 989 00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,479 I kept thinking, like, oh, my God, 990 00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:41,090 am I LL Cool J to somebody else? 991 00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:42,744 Instantly, I was like, yo, this has 992 00:40:42,875 --> 00:40:44,616 got to be about, like, an obsessed fan 993 00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:48,402 who's taking my shit too literal, and slow down. 994 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,448 I'm not--I'm just Marshall. 995 00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:51,753 [thunder rumbling, rain pattering] 996 00:40:51,884 --> 00:40:55,061 Like, I'm not your fucking savior. 997 00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:58,804 [thunder crashes] 998 00:40:58,978 --> 00:41:03,243 ♪ 999 00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:06,725 [thunder rumbling, crashing] 1000 00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:17,083 - Let me in! 1001 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:18,824 [knocking] 1002 00:41:18,954 --> 00:41:20,826 - What? 1003 00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,436 - Stanley, what are you doing to yourself? 1004 00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:24,612 - What, the hair? You don't like it? 1005 00:41:24,743 --> 00:41:26,135 - Stanley! - You like it? 1006 00:41:26,266 --> 00:41:27,789 - Stanley! Don't-- 1007 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,184 - Don't call me that, OK? 1008 00:41:31,271 --> 00:41:32,359 Don't call me that. 1009 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:33,752 - Don't you think you're taking this too far? 1010 00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:34,883 Stanley. - Here. 1011 00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:36,319 - Stanley! 1012 00:41:36,406 --> 00:41:37,451 I was listening to the lyrics. 1013 00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:38,931 I was just like, this is amazing. 1014 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:40,628 I mean, I just think his lyrics on that song 1015 00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:42,282 are absolutely brilliant, you know? 1016 00:41:42,456 --> 00:41:45,198 He's, to me, the ultimate storyteller. 1017 00:41:45,285 --> 00:41:46,765 [Eminem's "Stan"] 1018 00:41:46,852 --> 00:41:49,376 ♪ And I can't see at all ♪ 1019 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:52,901 ♪ Even if I could, it'd all be gray ♪ 1020 00:41:53,075 --> 00:41:55,295 ♪ But your picture on my wall ♪ 1021 00:41:55,469 --> 00:41:59,038 ♪ It reminds me that it's not so bad ♪ 1022 00:41:59,168 --> 00:42:01,127 ♪ It's not so bad ♪ 1023 00:42:01,214 --> 00:42:03,651 - ♪ Dear Slim, I wrote you, but you still ain't calling ♪ 1024 00:42:03,738 --> 00:42:05,392 ♪ I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone ♪ 1025 00:42:05,479 --> 00:42:06,654 ♪ At the bottom ♪ 1026 00:42:06,828 --> 00:42:08,308 ♪ I sent two letters back in autumn ♪ 1027 00:42:08,438 --> 00:42:09,483 ♪ You must not have got 'em ♪ 1028 00:42:09,657 --> 00:42:11,006 ♪ There probably was a problem ♪ 1029 00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:12,530 ♪ At the post office or something ♪ 1030 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:13,835 ♪ Sometimes I scribble addresses ♪ 1031 00:42:13,922 --> 00:42:15,271 ♪ Too sloppy when I jot 'em ♪ 1032 00:42:15,402 --> 00:42:17,360 ♪ But anyways, fuck it, what's been up, man ♪ 1033 00:42:17,447 --> 00:42:18,623 ♪ How's your daughter ♪ 1034 00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:19,841 ♪ My girlfriend's pregnant too ♪ 1035 00:42:19,928 --> 00:42:21,408 ♪ I'm 'bout to be a father ♪ 1036 00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,279 ♪ If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her ♪ 1037 00:42:23,366 --> 00:42:25,020 ♪ I'ma name her Bonnie ♪ 1038 00:42:25,151 --> 00:42:27,327 ♪ I read about your Uncle Ronnie too, I'm sorry ♪ 1039 00:42:27,501 --> 00:42:29,198 ♪ I had a friend kill himself over some bitch ♪ 1040 00:42:29,285 --> 00:42:30,939 ♪ Who didn't want him ♪ 1041 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:32,506 ♪ I know you probably hear this every day ♪ 1042 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,421 ♪ But I'm your biggest fan ♪ 1043 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:36,902 ♪ I even got the underground shit that you did with Skam ♪ 1044 00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:38,294 ♪ I got a room full of your posters ♪ 1045 00:42:38,468 --> 00:42:39,861 ♪ And your pictures, man ♪ 1046 00:42:39,992 --> 00:42:41,471 ♪ I like the shit you did with Rawkus too ♪ 1047 00:42:41,646 --> 00:42:43,038 ♪ That shit was phat ♪ 1048 00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:44,736 ♪ Anyways, I hope you get this, man ♪ 1049 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:46,346 ♪ Hit me back just to chat ♪ 1050 00:42:46,476 --> 00:42:48,000 ♪ Truly yours, your biggest fan ♪ 1051 00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:49,349 ♪ This is Stan ♪ 1052 00:42:49,523 --> 00:42:52,657 - ♪ My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why ♪ 1053 00:42:52,787 --> 00:42:54,528 - I used to write him all the time. 1054 00:42:54,702 --> 00:42:56,617 I was like, hi, I'm your biggest fan. 1055 00:42:56,704 --> 00:42:58,750 I love you so much. 1056 00:42:58,924 --> 00:43:01,404 - [laughs] When I was like, 12, yeah. 1057 00:43:01,535 --> 00:43:02,797 Yeah, I wrote him a letter. 1058 00:43:02,928 --> 00:43:05,974 And then later on, I would write and be like, 1059 00:43:06,105 --> 00:43:08,020 your music is saving my life. 1060 00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:09,978 Thank you for everything. 1061 00:43:10,109 --> 00:43:12,633 - I actually took a few hours writing all the things 1062 00:43:12,807 --> 00:43:17,159 I wanted to, but I thought it was, I don't know, 1063 00:43:17,333 --> 00:43:19,118 like too much like "Stan." 1064 00:43:19,205 --> 00:43:22,425 - I wrote one email about 10 years ago. 1065 00:43:22,512 --> 00:43:23,775 I haven't heard nothing back, 1066 00:43:23,905 --> 00:43:25,341 but I'm still got my fingers crossed. 1067 00:43:25,428 --> 00:43:27,343 It's only been 10 years. We good. 1068 00:43:27,474 --> 00:43:29,345 - ♪ Dear Slim, you still ain't called or wrote ♪ 1069 00:43:29,476 --> 00:43:30,346 ♪ I hope you have a chance ♪ 1070 00:43:30,477 --> 00:43:31,957 ♪ I ain't mad ♪ 1071 00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:33,698 ♪ I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans ♪ 1072 00:43:33,785 --> 00:43:35,177 ♪ If you didn't want to talk to me ♪ 1073 00:43:35,308 --> 00:43:37,179 ♪ Outside the concert, you didn't have to ♪ 1074 00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:39,355 ♪ But you could have signed an autograph for Matthew ♪ 1075 00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:40,443 ♪ That's my little brother, man ♪ 1076 00:43:40,574 --> 00:43:42,054 ♪ He's only six years old ♪ 1077 00:43:42,184 --> 00:43:43,838 ♪ We waited in the blistering cold for you ♪ 1078 00:43:43,969 --> 00:43:45,753 ♪ For four hours and you just said no ♪ 1079 00:43:45,927 --> 00:43:47,146 ♪ That's pretty shitty, man ♪ 1080 00:43:47,233 --> 00:43:48,843 ♪ You're like his fucking idol ♪ 1081 00:43:49,017 --> 00:43:49,888 ♪ He wants to be just like you, man ♪ 1082 00:43:49,975 --> 00:43:51,585 ♪ He likes you more than I do ♪ 1083 00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:55,807 - Stan, he's a really, really, really hardcore fan of Eminem, 1084 00:43:55,937 --> 00:43:57,591 and he believes he's in, like, 1085 00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:00,986 a parasocial relationship with Eminem. 1086 00:44:01,116 --> 00:44:04,250 - Parasocial relationship is a one-way 1087 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:07,732 mediated relationship where it's like, there is Eminem. 1088 00:44:07,862 --> 00:44:09,429 He's on stage performing. 1089 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:10,996 He's in music videos. 1090 00:44:11,083 --> 00:44:14,086 And you start to feel like you know this person. 1091 00:44:14,173 --> 00:44:16,001 - ♪ Bad ♪ 1092 00:44:16,131 --> 00:44:18,786 - Over time, parasocial relationships, 1093 00:44:18,873 --> 00:44:22,616 they increase in psychological intensity. 1094 00:44:22,703 --> 00:44:25,358 They can develop into what's called identification. 1095 00:44:25,488 --> 00:44:27,969 You become so absorbed, 1096 00:44:28,056 --> 00:44:31,016 you start to take on his attitudes 1097 00:44:31,146 --> 00:44:32,713 and beliefs and behaviors. 1098 00:44:32,887 --> 00:44:34,715 - ♪ I can relate to what you're saying in your songs ♪ 1099 00:44:34,802 --> 00:44:36,151 ♪ So when I have a shitty day ♪ 1100 00:44:36,238 --> 00:44:37,762 ♪ I drift away and put 'em on ♪ 1101 00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:39,067 ♪ Because I don't ♪ 1102 00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:41,461 - After that you get to what's called worship-- 1103 00:44:41,548 --> 00:44:43,811 - ♪ I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest ♪ 1104 00:44:43,942 --> 00:44:45,813 - Is when you treat the media persona 1105 00:44:45,944 --> 00:44:47,597 like a godlike figure. 1106 00:44:47,772 --> 00:44:49,643 It is the less healthy place 1107 00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:51,166 you want to be on the spectrum. 1108 00:44:51,253 --> 00:44:53,038 - ♪ See, everything you say is real ♪ 1109 00:44:53,125 --> 00:44:54,822 ♪ And I respect you 'cause you tell it ♪ 1110 00:44:54,909 --> 00:44:57,564 ♪ My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about you 24/7 ♪ 1111 00:44:57,695 --> 00:44:58,652 - I mean, I could relate. 1112 00:44:58,826 --> 00:45:00,306 I was like, yeah, that happens. 1113 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,700 Really awesome fans that can get, 1114 00:45:02,830 --> 00:45:04,832 you know--you're like their best friend, 1115 00:45:05,006 --> 00:45:06,312 and you don't even know it. 1116 00:45:06,486 --> 00:45:07,617 - ♪ Sincerely yours, Stan ♪ 1117 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:09,619 ♪ PS, we should be together too ♪ 1118 00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:12,622 - ♪ My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why ♪ 1119 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:14,668 - The connotations from the song 1120 00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:18,063 are somebody that is a crazy fan. 1121 00:45:18,193 --> 00:45:20,630 It's probably how a lot of people see me, 1122 00:45:20,761 --> 00:45:23,068 I would imagine. 1123 00:45:23,198 --> 00:45:25,853 - ♪ Dear Mr. I'm Too Good to Call or Write My Fans ♪ 1124 00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:28,987 ♪ This will be the last package I ever send your ass ♪ 1125 00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,466 ♪ It's been six months and still no word ♪ 1126 00:45:30,597 --> 00:45:31,816 ♪ I don't deserve it ♪ 1127 00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:33,687 ♪ I know you got my last two letters ♪ 1128 00:45:33,774 --> 00:45:35,123 ♪ I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect ♪ 1129 00:45:35,254 --> 00:45:36,864 - Reaching out, reaching out, and no answer. 1130 00:45:36,995 --> 00:45:41,086 I could see how that could affect someone. 1131 00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:43,088 - ♪ Hey, Slim, I drank a fifth of vodka ♪ 1132 00:45:43,218 --> 00:45:44,916 ♪ You dare me to drive ♪ 1133 00:45:45,046 --> 00:45:45,786 ♪ You know that song by Phil Collins ♪ 1134 00:45:45,873 --> 00:45:47,048 - That's extreme. 1135 00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:49,834 But then at the same time, I was so someone 1136 00:45:49,921 --> 00:45:51,749 that was like, well, why isn't one of my-- 1137 00:45:51,879 --> 00:45:53,359 why isn't it one of my letters he's reading? 1138 00:45:53,533 --> 00:45:54,752 - ♪ That's kinda how this is ♪ 1139 00:45:54,926 --> 00:45:55,840 ♪ You could have rescued me from drowning ♪ 1140 00:45:55,927 --> 00:45:57,842 - It was one of those moments where 1141 00:45:57,972 --> 00:46:00,540 I had to look in the mirror and be like, wow, 1142 00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:02,498 am I one of these crazy stans? 1143 00:46:02,585 --> 00:46:03,935 - ♪ Well, gotta go ♪ 1144 00:46:04,065 --> 00:46:05,066 ♪ I'm almost at the bridge now ♪ 1145 00:46:05,197 --> 00:46:06,546 ♪ Oh, shit, I forgot ♪ 1146 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,461 ♪ How am I supposed to send this shit out ♪ 1147 00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:11,246 [tires screeching, screaming] 1148 00:46:19,602 --> 00:46:22,040 - I was shocked. 1149 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,173 I mean, my first reaction was, did this actually happen? 1150 00:46:25,304 --> 00:46:27,045 - I don't think he's a real person, 1151 00:46:27,132 --> 00:46:29,395 but it's definitely possible that there's 1152 00:46:29,525 --> 00:46:31,049 somebody out there like that. 1153 00:46:31,136 --> 00:46:33,921 [somber music] 1154 00:46:34,095 --> 00:46:40,232 ♪ 1155 00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:42,016 - I think there are people out there that have 1156 00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:46,978 that type of mental obsession over another person, 1157 00:46:47,065 --> 00:46:49,850 and I believe that it does come from a real place. 1158 00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:52,548 Whether it is exaggerated or not 1159 00:46:52,635 --> 00:46:54,115 is all depending on the creator. 1160 00:46:54,246 --> 00:46:59,904 ♪ ♪ 1161 00:47:00,034 --> 00:47:03,821 But I believe it is coming from a real place. 1162 00:47:03,995 --> 00:47:08,347 - If it wasn't a real person who actually did do that... 1163 00:47:08,477 --> 00:47:12,830 ♪ ♪ 1164 00:47:13,004 --> 00:47:17,399 It's a message to all of his fame. 1165 00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:20,272 [engine rumbling] 1166 00:47:23,144 --> 00:47:24,885 [vehicle rumbles] 1167 00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:28,367 - Hi. 1168 00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:42,729 But the word "Stan" changed with the time. 1169 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:47,560 Stan, in 2024, it's being crazy of something. 1170 00:47:47,734 --> 00:47:50,693 Like, very, very crazy. 1171 00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:52,565 Like, really, really crazy. 1172 00:48:07,797 --> 00:48:09,495 I never killed my wife. 1173 00:48:11,366 --> 00:48:13,629 I've never been crazy like him. 1174 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:17,982 I don't have a wife, by the way, but I'm just saying. 1175 00:48:24,423 --> 00:48:27,165 Well, so-- 1176 00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,210 OK, so you guys think this about me. 1177 00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:30,646 That's fine. 1178 00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:35,129 Not because I don't want to, 1179 00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:39,220 but because it was too big to me. 1180 00:48:39,307 --> 00:48:42,963 I had and I still have a dream, 1181 00:48:43,094 --> 00:48:47,185 is to travel and discover Detroit. 1182 00:48:47,315 --> 00:48:53,321 Because I grew up with Eminem, so I wanted to-- 1183 00:48:53,452 --> 00:48:57,630 to know and to understand where Eminem came from. 1184 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,592 So my family thought that 1185 00:49:03,723 --> 00:49:05,551 that was all bullshit, 1186 00:49:05,681 --> 00:49:08,075 that I spent my money for nothing. 1187 00:49:08,162 --> 00:49:10,338 But you know, when you're passionate about something, 1188 00:49:10,469 --> 00:49:13,776 just do your dream. 1189 00:49:13,863 --> 00:49:15,648 That's it. 1190 00:49:15,735 --> 00:49:18,085 [indistinct chatter] 1191 00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:53,294 [Eminem's "Rap God"] 1192 00:49:53,425 --> 00:49:56,167 - ♪ I'm beginning to feel like a rap god, rap god ♪ 1193 00:50:09,484 --> 00:50:11,095 - How do you know Eminem's not here? 1194 00:50:22,323 --> 00:50:25,109 [playing tune on keyboard] 1195 00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:51,613 Because I was back in Paris 1196 00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:53,528 after a beautiful week in Detroit. 1197 00:50:53,702 --> 00:50:55,313 I cried. 1198 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,550 ♪ ♪ 1199 00:51:15,637 --> 00:51:19,119 - If "Stan" sort of showed mainstream people 1200 00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:22,340 who didn't understand how powerful a rap song could be, 1201 00:51:22,427 --> 00:51:23,732 if "Stan" did that to them... 1202 00:51:23,863 --> 00:51:25,778 [cheers and applause] 1203 00:51:25,952 --> 00:51:28,041 [pensive music] 1204 00:51:28,172 --> 00:51:31,958 Then "8 Mile" did that on a much more mainstream scale 1205 00:51:32,045 --> 00:51:34,439 across all swaths of culture. 1206 00:51:34,613 --> 00:51:39,835 ♪ 1207 00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,141 [banging] 1208 00:51:41,228 --> 00:51:43,622 He was a global phenomenon. 1209 00:51:43,752 --> 00:51:44,971 - How are you feeling? 1210 00:51:45,058 --> 00:51:47,234 - I feel good. - You feel good? 1211 00:51:47,365 --> 00:51:48,235 - Yeah. 1212 00:51:48,366 --> 00:51:50,759 [tense music] 1213 00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:52,761 - All right, next up is my boy Bunny Rabbit. 1214 00:51:52,848 --> 00:51:54,241 [crowd booing] 1215 00:51:54,415 --> 00:51:56,635 He's a genius, man, a motherfucking genius. 1216 00:51:56,722 --> 00:51:57,592 DJ, kick it. 1217 00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,291 [scratching record] 1218 00:52:00,465 --> 00:52:02,119 all: Choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, 1219 00:52:02,249 --> 00:52:04,686 choke, choke, choke, choke! 1220 00:52:04,817 --> 00:52:07,036 - I believe what they did with "8 Mile" was amazing, 1221 00:52:07,211 --> 00:52:08,951 the way that they loosely based 1222 00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:12,259 a lot of things on his life. 1223 00:52:12,346 --> 00:52:14,043 And it wasn't full full-fledged, 1224 00:52:14,174 --> 00:52:16,220 this is what happened, but-- 1225 00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:18,744 so it keeps me excited because my imagination 1226 00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:20,702 starts going like, all right, so what was real? 1227 00:52:20,833 --> 00:52:21,703 What wasn't real? 1228 00:52:21,834 --> 00:52:23,705 Is that story true or not? 1229 00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:25,011 Did that really happen when they were in the parking lot 1230 00:52:25,098 --> 00:52:27,187 in the shelter? 1231 00:52:27,318 --> 00:52:29,929 - Yo, that's like one of the best movies of all time, 1232 00:52:30,059 --> 00:52:32,453 if you're a rapper, 'cause it wasn't over the top. 1233 00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:34,063 It seemed like real-world shit, 1234 00:52:34,194 --> 00:52:36,153 going through it with his mom. 1235 00:52:36,283 --> 00:52:37,023 - What are you doing with your life 1236 00:52:37,154 --> 00:52:39,112 that's so great, Rabbit? 1237 00:52:39,243 --> 00:52:40,766 - Freestyling in the car with Proof. 1238 00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:43,334 - ♪ A 1928 Delta ♪ 1239 00:52:43,421 --> 00:52:45,858 ♪ This shit won't even get me to the shelter ♪ 1240 00:52:45,945 --> 00:52:46,772 - Breaking up with his girlfriend, 1241 00:52:46,859 --> 00:52:48,034 all this extra shit. 1242 00:52:48,121 --> 00:52:48,991 Like, that was real-world shit. 1243 00:52:49,078 --> 00:52:50,906 - [blows raspberry] 1244 00:52:51,037 --> 00:52:54,345 - Him showing a glimpse into what he went through 1245 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,609 right before he got famous, it showed the world 1246 00:52:57,739 --> 00:53:01,613 that it's like, hey, I come from this background, 1247 00:53:01,743 --> 00:53:03,441 but it doesn't define me. 1248 00:53:03,571 --> 00:53:05,356 - [grunts] 1249 00:53:05,486 --> 00:53:08,576 - It is who I am, but I am so much more than that. 1250 00:53:08,707 --> 00:53:10,361 - In my mind, we're connected. 1251 00:53:10,535 --> 00:53:12,276 In one way or another, in this universe, 1252 00:53:12,363 --> 00:53:13,451 there's a connection. 1253 00:53:13,538 --> 00:53:15,148 Yo, you--you're me. 1254 00:53:15,322 --> 00:53:16,497 You're a regular dude. 1255 00:53:16,584 --> 00:53:18,673 This is not lights, camera, action. 1256 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,111 This is Marshall Mathers, and I followed the story. 1257 00:53:22,286 --> 00:53:24,375 And most parts, I lived the story. 1258 00:53:24,462 --> 00:53:27,029 - It enhanced my fandom of him because 1259 00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:29,945 I just saw how relatable he was. 1260 00:53:30,076 --> 00:53:32,426 And I didn't have, like, a male figure in my family 1261 00:53:32,557 --> 00:53:35,734 or, you know, in my household to look up to, 1262 00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:38,954 and I really looked up to him. 1263 00:53:39,041 --> 00:53:43,524 - "8 Mile" did the most to explain Eminem to the world. 1264 00:53:43,611 --> 00:53:46,571 There were all these critics who were anti-Eminem. 1265 00:53:46,658 --> 00:53:48,268 Maureen Dowd, one of them at "The New York Times," 1266 00:53:48,442 --> 00:53:49,835 she had a bunch of columns, you know, 1267 00:53:50,009 --> 00:53:52,141 saying he was a misogynist and all the other things 1268 00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:53,491 that he was controversial for. 1269 00:53:53,578 --> 00:53:56,537 And then after "8 Mile," she had a column 1270 00:53:56,668 --> 00:53:59,932 about having a crush on him and talking about him 1271 00:54:00,019 --> 00:54:01,194 with other soccer mommies 1272 00:54:01,368 --> 00:54:03,065 and listening to him at the gym. 1273 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,372 It explains him to a wider audience, 1274 00:54:05,546 --> 00:54:08,027 contextualizes him, but it also 1275 00:54:08,157 --> 00:54:09,985 is myth-making, for sure. 1276 00:54:10,116 --> 00:54:12,074 And I think that to the fans that 1277 00:54:12,205 --> 00:54:14,207 aren't able to separate the man from the myth, 1278 00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:16,470 this might as well be a documentary. 1279 00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:18,080 - My first guest is a young man who is 1280 00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:20,518 on top of all of his games. 1281 00:54:20,692 --> 00:54:22,084 He's got the number-one song in the country, 1282 00:54:22,259 --> 00:54:23,608 the number-one album in the country, 1283 00:54:23,738 --> 00:54:26,132 and soon, the number-one movie in the country. 1284 00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:28,308 Give it up for Eminem. 1285 00:54:28,395 --> 00:54:31,050 [cheering] 1286 00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:33,879 And then it's such chaos out there that unfortunately 1287 00:54:34,009 --> 00:54:36,011 we're going to have to shut the shades, 1288 00:54:36,142 --> 00:54:38,405 but it's a real sight to be seen. 1289 00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:40,407 In the history of MTV, I have never 1290 00:54:40,581 --> 00:54:42,322 seen anything quite like it. 1291 00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:43,454 - I remember being in the theater 1292 00:54:43,584 --> 00:54:45,586 that first night watching that, going, "Fuck, man. 1293 00:54:45,673 --> 00:54:48,023 "Now, that's an opening weekend for a fucking guy 1294 00:54:48,110 --> 00:54:49,242 who's not a movie star." 1295 00:54:49,416 --> 00:54:52,898 He just became a movie star like that. 1296 00:54:52,985 --> 00:54:54,160 - The movie is out. 1297 00:54:54,247 --> 00:54:55,770 How you feeling? - Good. 1298 00:54:55,944 --> 00:54:57,163 - Yeah? 1299 00:54:57,294 --> 00:54:59,034 You're a little overwhelmed? 1300 00:54:59,121 --> 00:55:01,036 - A lot overwhelmed, but, um... 1301 00:55:01,167 --> 00:55:03,952 [cheers and applause] 1302 00:55:06,781 --> 00:55:08,217 Proud too. 1303 00:55:08,348 --> 00:55:09,828 I'm proud too, you know? - Yeah. 1304 00:55:09,915 --> 00:55:10,959 - I'm proud and I'm-- I'm happy. 1305 00:55:11,090 --> 00:55:12,352 I'm excited. 1306 00:55:12,439 --> 00:55:13,919 You know, if it wasn't for these fans, 1307 00:55:14,049 --> 00:55:15,747 I wouldn't have got to this level 1308 00:55:15,921 --> 00:55:19,054 to be enabled to do my own movies and things like that, 1309 00:55:19,185 --> 00:55:21,840 and have this kind of power and this kind of control, 1310 00:55:21,970 --> 00:55:23,145 and I'm loving it. 1311 00:55:23,232 --> 00:55:25,060 - Yo, let me ask you this-- 1312 00:55:25,191 --> 00:55:27,672 - I was just looking up some stuff about Eminem online, 1313 00:55:27,802 --> 00:55:30,501 and this girl was talking about how 1314 00:55:30,631 --> 00:55:32,633 she apparently was spending time 1315 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,287 with him while he was on tour. 1316 00:55:34,418 --> 00:55:36,158 Like, some fan girl he picked up. 1317 00:55:36,289 --> 00:55:39,597 And I thought at first that that was real, so I'm like, 1318 00:55:39,727 --> 00:55:42,295 did somebody really put that--like, that hap-- 1319 00:55:42,426 --> 00:55:44,428 somebody put that out? That's insane. 1320 00:55:44,515 --> 00:55:47,082 Then when I scrolled down to the end, 1321 00:55:47,213 --> 00:55:49,084 it said fan fiction. 1322 00:55:49,215 --> 00:55:52,087 [discordant music] 1323 00:55:52,218 --> 00:55:54,786 ♪ ♪ 1324 00:55:54,916 --> 00:55:57,484 The next thing I knew, that was all I was reading, 1325 00:55:57,571 --> 00:55:59,747 'cause it was kind of addictive. 1326 00:55:59,878 --> 00:56:05,797 ♪ ♪ 1327 00:56:05,927 --> 00:56:08,713 And after, like, about three or four months of reading it, 1328 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,325 I was like, why don't I write one myself? 1329 00:56:14,283 --> 00:56:17,417 I just imagined what his head space would be like. 1330 00:56:19,724 --> 00:56:21,421 It's very presumptuous of me to say, 1331 00:56:21,508 --> 00:56:23,292 oh, I'm writing this as Marshall, 1332 00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:25,033 even though it literally says Marshall's point of view 1333 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,470 when I write it. 1334 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,080 But you know, it's 'cause it's fiction. 1335 00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,561 It's OK. 1336 00:56:30,735 --> 00:56:33,085 - Do you feel like you have an understanding 1337 00:56:33,172 --> 00:56:35,479 of who Marshall actually is? 1338 00:56:35,566 --> 00:56:37,437 - It's kind of hard to tell with Eminem 1339 00:56:37,524 --> 00:56:38,786 because he's like-- 1340 00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:41,876 as much as he puts personal shit in his songs, 1341 00:56:41,963 --> 00:56:44,270 he probably shows us only what he wants us to see. 1342 00:56:44,357 --> 00:56:47,099 [upbeat music] 1343 00:56:47,273 --> 00:56:49,884 ♪ 1344 00:56:49,971 --> 00:56:51,016 - What's up, ladies? 1345 00:56:51,103 --> 00:56:53,758 [cheering] 1346 00:56:53,888 --> 00:56:55,760 I was sharing a lot... 1347 00:56:55,890 --> 00:56:57,152 Aw. 1348 00:56:57,283 --> 00:56:59,372 And made it like a fucking open book. 1349 00:56:59,503 --> 00:57:00,939 And then sometimes you want to close 1350 00:57:01,069 --> 00:57:03,202 that book back a little bit because 1351 00:57:03,332 --> 00:57:05,465 did you share too much? 1352 00:57:05,639 --> 00:57:06,510 What's up? I'm Marshall, and I'm gonna to punch you 1353 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,989 in the fucking throat. 1354 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,209 Do you have anything left to keep to yourself? 1355 00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:11,515 I can't fucking work like this. 1356 00:57:11,602 --> 00:57:12,951 You're stressing me out. 1357 00:57:13,038 --> 00:57:14,387 [door creaks] 1358 00:57:14,561 --> 00:57:16,171 - "Before I was famous, everything 1359 00:57:16,302 --> 00:57:18,652 "was moving in slow motion. 1360 00:57:18,826 --> 00:57:20,915 "Now it seems like somebody has pressed 1361 00:57:21,002 --> 00:57:22,743 "the fucking fast forward button, 1362 00:57:22,874 --> 00:57:24,789 "and my life just seems to be rushing by. 1363 00:57:24,963 --> 00:57:27,879 It sometimes feels like a strange movie." 1364 00:57:28,009 --> 00:57:29,707 I couldn't imagine how jarring it is 1365 00:57:29,837 --> 00:57:34,799 to go from being where he started out in 8 Mile 1366 00:57:34,886 --> 00:57:38,846 to the level of fame and success and wealth 1367 00:57:38,933 --> 00:57:42,807 and confinement that comes along with celebrity. 1368 00:57:42,937 --> 00:57:43,938 Unreal. 1369 00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:45,592 - Hey, Em. 1370 00:57:45,766 --> 00:57:46,941 - Don't--don't come over here, man. 1371 00:57:47,028 --> 00:57:47,855 - Hey, Em. 1372 00:57:48,029 --> 00:57:48,900 - All right? 1373 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:50,684 - Hey, have a good concert. 1374 00:57:50,815 --> 00:57:53,252 - The way that he talks about fame in his music, 1375 00:57:53,382 --> 00:57:55,254 it's like he wishes that he could just 1376 00:57:55,384 --> 00:57:58,562 go and be a normal person and go to the store 1377 00:57:58,692 --> 00:58:00,172 and things like that. 1378 00:58:00,259 --> 00:58:01,565 And I think it feels like an invasion. 1379 00:58:01,695 --> 00:58:02,957 - Yo, what's up, Eminem? 1380 00:58:03,088 --> 00:58:04,176 So are you gonna-- 1381 00:58:04,306 --> 00:58:05,917 - Good to see you, man. 1382 00:58:06,047 --> 00:58:08,354 - Every single day I'm on the Eminem subreddit. 1383 00:58:08,441 --> 00:58:10,835 There is 800,000 stans. 1384 00:58:10,965 --> 00:58:13,707 We have guys from India and Pakistan, 1385 00:58:13,838 --> 00:58:16,841 and like, just all-- all over the world. 1386 00:58:17,015 --> 00:58:19,931 We theorize, and we go back and forth, and we try 1387 00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:22,629 and, uh, figure out what goes on in his daily life. 1388 00:58:22,803 --> 00:58:24,675 Would be really cool to know, like, 1389 00:58:24,805 --> 00:58:26,981 does he go to the gym in the morning? 1390 00:58:27,068 --> 00:58:29,070 Or does he play basketball, 1391 00:58:29,244 --> 00:58:30,942 or is he in the studio all day? 1392 00:58:31,072 --> 00:58:33,684 It feels incredibly euphoric to me 1393 00:58:33,814 --> 00:58:37,035 because every post-- every post you go through 1394 00:58:37,122 --> 00:58:39,690 and every little thread of information you get, 1395 00:58:39,777 --> 00:58:42,649 it gives you one step closer to getting closer to the man. 1396 00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:43,781 [crowd shouting] 1397 00:58:43,955 --> 00:58:44,782 - Em! 1398 00:58:44,912 --> 00:58:46,479 Em! 1399 00:58:46,566 --> 00:58:48,002 - You can look at your smartphone now 1400 00:58:48,089 --> 00:58:49,221 and look at social media and feel like 1401 00:58:49,308 --> 00:58:51,484 you have a direct line to these people now. 1402 00:58:51,658 --> 00:58:54,487 There's definitely a very thin line 1403 00:58:54,574 --> 00:58:56,010 when you go from that follow button, 1404 00:58:56,097 --> 00:58:58,230 and then all of a sudden, you're following someone. 1405 00:58:58,317 --> 00:59:01,668 Conversely, I'm following them. 1406 00:59:01,755 --> 00:59:03,975 And it's like, I need to know every new thing 1407 00:59:04,105 --> 00:59:06,847 about this person, and I think that takes some people 1408 00:59:06,978 --> 00:59:09,502 down some dark roads. 1409 00:59:09,633 --> 00:59:12,113 - I'm sure it feels like a prison, 1410 00:59:12,287 --> 00:59:15,682 where you can't go anywhere without being recognized. 1411 00:59:15,856 --> 00:59:18,685 [ominous music] 1412 00:59:18,859 --> 00:59:25,649 ♪ 1413 00:59:30,915 --> 00:59:35,354 - There's definitely a shift of him becoming 1414 00:59:35,484 --> 00:59:37,312 a little bit more withdrawn 1415 00:59:37,486 --> 00:59:39,532 from all of the fame. 1416 01:00:14,045 --> 01:00:16,221 [projector whirring] 1417 01:00:16,308 --> 01:00:18,397 - I live in that same area where I do hear from people, 1418 01:00:18,527 --> 01:00:19,746 like, oh, my God, Eminem moved here 1419 01:00:19,877 --> 01:00:20,878 and his address is this, 1420 01:00:20,965 --> 01:00:22,314 and oh, I was trick-or-treating, 1421 01:00:22,444 --> 01:00:23,968 and I went to his house. 1422 01:00:24,142 --> 01:00:28,407 And it's like he can't even live normally. 1423 01:00:30,278 --> 01:00:32,716 I've always been like, oh, I want to meet him so bad. 1424 01:00:32,803 --> 01:00:34,369 It's almost like a double-edged sword, 1425 01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,154 because what would I do, run up to him and be like, 1426 01:00:36,284 --> 01:00:37,634 oh, my God, Eminem? 1427 01:00:37,764 --> 01:00:40,245 And that's, like, not what he wants. 1428 01:00:40,375 --> 01:00:42,073 But at the same time, it's, like, all I want. 1429 01:00:42,203 --> 01:00:44,945 ♪ ♪ 1430 01:00:45,032 --> 01:00:46,773 - I remember one time me and Hailie 1431 01:00:46,904 --> 01:00:48,601 went to the mall in LA. 1432 01:00:48,732 --> 01:00:51,778 It was the last time I went to the mall as me, right? 1433 01:00:51,909 --> 01:00:55,173 Like, not fucking disguised. 1434 01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,916 And, um, every store we went in, we come out, 1435 01:00:59,003 --> 01:01:00,700 and there's another-- a bigger crowd 1436 01:01:00,874 --> 01:01:03,660 and a bigger crowd and a bigger crowd. 1437 01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:05,923 And it got to the point where I was like-- 1438 01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:07,968 I picked her up, and I'm like, come on, 1439 01:01:08,099 --> 01:01:09,622 kiddo, time to go, right? 1440 01:01:09,796 --> 01:01:13,191 And I'm walking, and as I'm walking faster 1441 01:01:13,321 --> 01:01:14,496 and faster and faster, they're walking 1442 01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:15,802 faster and faster and faster. 1443 01:01:15,976 --> 01:01:17,325 And I literally felt like I was being chased 1444 01:01:17,456 --> 01:01:19,545 out the fucking mall. 1445 01:01:19,676 --> 01:01:24,811 And that was one of those moments 1446 01:01:24,898 --> 01:01:28,859 where I realized, like, my life really has changed. 1447 01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:32,819 Like, I can't--I can't do this anymore, right? 1448 01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:35,343 'Cause I got to protect my baby. 1449 01:01:35,474 --> 01:01:38,433 So that was a scary-- that was a scary moment, 1450 01:01:38,607 --> 01:01:40,044 and scary for her too. 1451 01:01:40,131 --> 01:01:41,741 I asked her. She--she doesn't remember it. 1452 01:01:41,872 --> 01:01:42,916 She was too little to remember it. 1453 01:01:43,090 --> 01:01:46,224 But I remember it, and it was fucking crazy. 1454 01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:58,976 But people do not realize how dangerous... 1455 01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:06,679 - Some people who are attracted to Eminem 1456 01:02:06,766 --> 01:02:09,290 might not be the best-intentioned people 1457 01:02:09,421 --> 01:02:13,120 and who could be aggressive or violent. 1458 01:02:13,251 --> 01:02:15,688 - We've seen it with other artists, who a super-fan 1459 01:02:15,819 --> 01:02:17,429 has, you know, come after them. 1460 01:02:17,603 --> 01:02:24,697 ♪ 1461 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,657 - I definitely feared for his safety. 1462 01:02:28,788 --> 01:02:29,963 Sometimes you get obsessive fans 1463 01:02:30,094 --> 01:02:32,096 that are mentally unstable. 1464 01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:35,534 ♪ 1465 01:02:35,664 --> 01:02:37,101 - I'm protective of Eminem. 1466 01:02:37,231 --> 01:02:39,756 Oh, my God, if anything happened to Em--oh, my God, 1467 01:02:39,886 --> 01:02:41,148 I'd come swinging. 1468 01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:44,499 ♪ ♪ 1469 01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:47,720 - You just never know, within this profession that we have, 1470 01:02:47,894 --> 01:02:49,983 if there's somebody out there lurking 1471 01:02:50,114 --> 01:02:53,117 that's creating this fantasy in their own head 1472 01:02:53,204 --> 01:02:56,685 because you're not responding to them. 1473 01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,601 That's the scariest shit ever. 1474 01:02:59,732 --> 01:03:01,255 - Following and tracking him 1475 01:03:01,342 --> 01:03:02,866 like he's not a regular person, 1476 01:03:02,996 --> 01:03:03,867 you're not a fan at all. 1477 01:03:11,483 --> 01:03:13,311 - 11 years of policing, I've seen all kinds 1478 01:03:13,485 --> 01:03:15,008 of dark, twisty shit. 1479 01:03:15,182 --> 01:03:16,793 When you get that famous, you can't talk to everybody. 1480 01:03:16,967 --> 01:03:18,969 You can't say hi to everybody. You can't meet everybody. 1481 01:03:19,056 --> 01:03:22,755 And so I don't think that this kid Stan got that. 1482 01:03:22,842 --> 01:03:25,323 - If the Stan character existed today, 1483 01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:27,020 he would certainly follow Eminem 1484 01:03:27,151 --> 01:03:29,980 on every platform, maybe run a fan page, 1485 01:03:30,110 --> 01:03:31,982 definitely on Eminem Reddit. 1486 01:03:32,156 --> 01:03:34,985 Would be writing to him on each of his 1487 01:03:35,115 --> 01:03:38,945 social media accounts every day. 1488 01:03:39,076 --> 01:03:41,556 With the song "Stan," it's almost like 1489 01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:44,908 a PSA to his fans, like, please don't do this. 1490 01:03:44,995 --> 01:03:46,823 This is not what I want. 1491 01:03:52,698 --> 01:03:55,832 [dramatic music] 1492 01:03:55,962 --> 01:03:58,530 - When I saw him in 2005's Anger Management tour, 1493 01:03:58,660 --> 01:04:00,010 I was in college. 1494 01:04:00,140 --> 01:04:02,664 Came there to the show with my friend. 1495 01:04:02,751 --> 01:04:04,623 [cheering] 1496 01:04:04,797 --> 01:04:09,846 This is when he was touring nationwide with D12... 1497 01:04:09,976 --> 01:04:11,760 - Yeah, man, we out here having a good time 1498 01:04:11,848 --> 01:04:13,632 on this tour, so far, so good. 1499 01:04:13,762 --> 01:04:14,807 - And with 50 Cent... 1500 01:04:14,981 --> 01:04:16,243 - 50-- - No, don't tell me. 1501 01:04:16,374 --> 01:04:17,331 I know I did good. 1502 01:04:17,418 --> 01:04:18,942 [laughter] 1503 01:04:19,072 --> 01:04:21,509 - And with Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz. 1504 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,250 - We out, bitch! 1505 01:04:23,381 --> 01:04:26,558 - Which to this day has been one of the best 1506 01:04:26,688 --> 01:04:29,126 tours that I've ever seen. 1507 01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:31,476 - The atmosphere of touring and the partying 1508 01:04:31,606 --> 01:04:33,739 and getting up in the morning and catching the flights 1509 01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,828 and the plane and the jet lag 1510 01:04:35,915 --> 01:04:38,178 and riding the bus and not being able to sleep, 1511 01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:39,266 it's hard. 1512 01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:41,616 It ends up running you down. 1513 01:04:41,703 --> 01:04:42,966 - We're done in Detroit. 1514 01:04:43,096 --> 01:04:44,228 Europe next. 1515 01:04:44,358 --> 01:04:45,620 Wow. 1516 01:04:45,751 --> 01:04:48,406 - It's almost like I have to get off the road 1517 01:04:48,493 --> 01:04:52,236 every now and then and take a break, or I'll go crazy. 1518 01:04:52,366 --> 01:04:55,282 [somber music] 1519 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:57,850 ♪ ♪ 1520 01:04:57,981 --> 01:05:00,635 - I was supposed to be going to see him in Manchester, 1521 01:05:00,722 --> 01:05:02,594 and he canceled because he was-- 1522 01:05:02,681 --> 01:05:05,597 well, exhaustion, he-- he told everyone at the time. 1523 01:05:05,727 --> 01:05:09,253 It was a bit of a shock. 1524 01:05:09,427 --> 01:05:11,168 - I actually had tickets for him, 1525 01:05:11,298 --> 01:05:13,126 whenever the Anger Management tour was that he canceled. 1526 01:05:13,257 --> 01:05:14,649 I had tickets to that show. 1527 01:05:14,736 --> 01:05:16,303 I remember at the time being obviously 1528 01:05:16,477 --> 01:05:18,697 supremely disappointed, but it wasn't a secret, 1529 01:05:18,827 --> 01:05:22,483 the struggles that he was going through. 1530 01:05:22,657 --> 01:05:23,702 - That's why I'm pill-adverse, 1531 01:05:23,832 --> 01:05:25,530 knowing how it got to him. 1532 01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:28,141 Even--I think I had, like, my wisdom teeth out 1533 01:05:28,272 --> 01:05:30,970 and whatnot, and I wouldn't even take the hydrocodones 1534 01:05:31,144 --> 01:05:33,016 because I'm like, I can't take too many because this is-- 1535 01:05:33,103 --> 01:05:34,669 this is the stuff that'll get you. 1536 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,759 ♪ ♪ 1537 01:05:37,890 --> 01:05:39,370 - I was on vacation for a few days, 1538 01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:44,157 and I came back, and my mom came to pick me-- 1539 01:05:44,288 --> 01:05:46,594 pick me up at the airport. 1540 01:05:46,725 --> 01:05:49,206 And she looked at me like she never looked at me like this 1541 01:05:49,293 --> 01:05:54,385 before, and she said, "Zolt, someone from 1542 01:05:54,515 --> 01:05:56,691 Eminem friends passed away." 1543 01:05:56,778 --> 01:05:59,172 - Rapper DeShaun Holton, better known as Proof, 1544 01:05:59,346 --> 01:06:01,174 one of the founders of the rap group D12 1545 01:06:01,348 --> 01:06:04,003 and a close friend of sometime D12 member Eminem, 1546 01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:06,266 was shot and killed at a Detroit nightclub. 1547 01:06:06,353 --> 01:06:08,181 He was 32 years old. 1548 01:06:08,355 --> 01:06:09,748 Proof often shared the stage with Eminem. 1549 01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:11,271 He was even the best man at Em's wedding 1550 01:06:11,402 --> 01:06:14,231 this past January, but he was also... 1551 01:06:14,405 --> 01:06:17,538 - I want you to listen to him, give him a chance. 1552 01:06:17,712 --> 01:06:21,542 Put your hands together for the funky honky Eminem. 1553 01:06:21,716 --> 01:06:24,284 [somber music] 1554 01:06:24,415 --> 01:06:25,633 ♪ ♪ 1555 01:06:25,764 --> 01:06:27,461 - My name is Slim Shady. 1556 01:06:27,548 --> 01:06:29,333 Yo, this is MC Proof, and this is my DJ-- 1557 01:06:29,463 --> 01:06:30,725 - I cry. 1558 01:06:30,856 --> 01:06:31,944 I immediately cry. 1559 01:06:32,075 --> 01:06:34,468 I said to my mom, "Sorry, I can't go to the school. 1560 01:06:34,555 --> 01:06:36,383 It's too much for me, too much." 1561 01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:38,516 It took three months, and even after three months, 1562 01:06:38,646 --> 01:06:41,084 when I came back to the--to the school-- 1563 01:06:41,171 --> 01:06:43,956 [clears throat] Man. 1564 01:06:44,087 --> 01:06:47,090 Even thinking about it really want to make me cry about it. 1565 01:06:49,266 --> 01:06:50,963 - When he lost Proof, I cried with him 1566 01:06:51,050 --> 01:06:53,618 'cause I knew exactly what he felt. 1567 01:06:53,705 --> 01:06:54,923 I lost my cousin, 1568 01:06:55,054 --> 01:06:58,144 and I lost him in a bad, bad way. 1569 01:06:58,275 --> 01:07:00,103 The one person that had my back since 1570 01:07:00,233 --> 01:07:03,149 I was a kid, that always was with me, 1571 01:07:03,236 --> 01:07:05,978 is not here to help me no more. 1572 01:07:06,152 --> 01:07:07,806 All I was doing was just popping pills 1573 01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:09,373 and just laying in bed all day. 1574 01:07:09,503 --> 01:07:11,375 If he died, I should die. 1575 01:07:11,549 --> 01:07:13,159 That's how I felt. 1576 01:07:17,555 --> 01:07:19,948 [breathes deeply] 1577 01:07:20,036 --> 01:07:22,125 I'm sorry. Give me a second. 1578 01:07:25,171 --> 01:07:28,174 [somber music] 1579 01:07:28,348 --> 01:07:32,091 - You know, just, I've lost a lot of people. 1580 01:07:32,222 --> 01:07:34,876 Um, I've lost my sister. I lost my dad. 1581 01:07:34,963 --> 01:07:36,400 I lost my nephew. 1582 01:07:36,487 --> 01:07:38,358 So all, like, my close family's, you know, 1583 01:07:38,445 --> 01:07:39,794 halfway gone. 1584 01:07:39,881 --> 01:07:41,883 Um, but my nephew was, like, the worst, 1585 01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,147 'cause he was, like, my best friend. 1586 01:07:44,234 --> 01:07:46,888 In 2016, like January, he like, 1587 01:07:47,019 --> 01:07:49,108 complained about having a sore neck, 1588 01:07:49,282 --> 01:07:50,762 I think it was, and doctors were like, 1589 01:07:50,849 --> 01:07:52,764 oh, sinus infection, this, this, this. 1590 01:07:52,851 --> 01:07:54,070 My sister was taking him every-- 1591 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,158 like, all the time, like-- and he was someone 1592 01:07:55,288 --> 01:07:56,463 that never complained. 1593 01:07:56,594 --> 01:07:58,596 Um, he would never tell you when he was sick, 1594 01:07:58,726 --> 01:08:00,119 so that was already odd. 1595 01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:03,035 So finally some doctor was like, yeah, 1596 01:08:03,209 --> 01:08:04,993 no, this is stage IV lymphoma. 1597 01:08:05,124 --> 01:08:06,256 You know, when my nephew passed, 1598 01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:09,998 I was like, fuck this, and I tried to overdose, 1599 01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:12,131 um, after his funeral was over. 1600 01:08:12,218 --> 01:08:15,874 [machinery beeping] 1601 01:08:16,004 --> 01:08:19,312 I woke up in the hospital with my heart doctor 1602 01:08:19,443 --> 01:08:21,662 at the bottom of my bed like a dad, 1603 01:08:21,836 --> 01:08:25,013 just telling me never to do that shit again, 1604 01:08:25,101 --> 01:08:28,843 and I listen to Eminem because him losing Proof, 1605 01:08:28,930 --> 01:08:31,194 I feel like I really can resonate with that 1606 01:08:31,281 --> 01:08:34,371 because that was literally my other half. 1607 01:08:36,677 --> 01:08:38,505 - Why is it so rare that the public 1608 01:08:38,636 --> 01:08:39,985 gets to see Eminem nowadays? What's-- 1609 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:41,117 - Yeah, why is it like that? 1610 01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:46,818 - I actually need him to make my music. 1611 01:08:46,948 --> 01:08:48,341 So he be busy. 1612 01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:54,304 And he had the white shirt with big Proof on the shirt. 1613 01:09:08,579 --> 01:09:09,797 It was-- I didn't-- 1614 01:09:09,928 --> 01:09:14,367 I didn't want to see Marshall like this, so... 1615 01:09:14,498 --> 01:09:16,935 - Guys, you gotta tell me, what's the latest 1616 01:09:17,065 --> 01:09:18,284 with the new D12 album? 1617 01:09:18,415 --> 01:09:20,068 - It's all in the memory of Proof, 1618 01:09:20,156 --> 01:09:21,940 everything that he was. - Shout out to Proof. 1619 01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:24,116 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. 1620 01:09:24,203 --> 01:09:26,336 - Rest--rest in peace, big baby. 1621 01:09:26,466 --> 01:09:27,989 - It was one of the toughest times, 1622 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:31,341 if not the toughest time in his life, that we know of. 1623 01:09:31,428 --> 01:09:34,474 And it was kind of, I think, a when it rains, it pours. 1624 01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:38,174 My dad, he passed unexpectedly when I was entering 1625 01:09:38,304 --> 01:09:40,480 my freshman year of college. 1626 01:09:40,567 --> 01:09:46,356 You know, listening to him talking about his grief 1627 01:09:46,443 --> 01:09:50,011 and the lows that he went through... 1628 01:09:50,098 --> 01:09:52,579 I mean, I connect to that. 1629 01:09:52,710 --> 01:09:55,365 - ♪ And Proof I'm truly sorry if I let you down ♪ 1630 01:09:55,539 --> 01:09:57,541 ♪ But this tore me in two ♪ 1631 01:09:57,715 --> 01:10:00,413 ♪ The thought of no more me and you ♪ 1632 01:10:00,544 --> 01:10:02,023 ♪ You gave me shoes, Nikes like new ♪ 1633 01:10:02,110 --> 01:10:04,330 ♪ For me for school ♪ 1634 01:10:04,417 --> 01:10:06,680 ♪ Doody, I'm trying, but you, you were the glue ♪ 1635 01:10:06,767 --> 01:10:08,334 ♪ That binded so many things, time ♪ 1636 01:10:08,465 --> 01:10:10,945 ♪ I'd give anything to rewind it ♪ 1637 01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:13,731 ♪ I had to walk down my halls and constantly be reminded ♪ 1638 01:10:13,861 --> 01:10:15,428 ♪ By pictures all on my walls ♪ 1639 01:10:15,559 --> 01:10:16,690 ♪ And I couldn't sleep at night ♪ 1640 01:10:16,777 --> 01:10:18,692 ♪ 'Cause that image burned in my brain ♪ 1641 01:10:18,866 --> 01:10:21,260 ♪ Of you on the table, me falling across your body ♪ 1642 01:10:21,434 --> 01:10:23,219 ♪ Not able to stand to save you ♪ 1643 01:10:23,349 --> 01:10:25,395 ♪ God, why did you take him? ♪ 1644 01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,183 - I was really worried for Marshall 1645 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:33,968 during those years, for his well-being, 1646 01:10:34,099 --> 01:10:36,623 spiritually, physically. 1647 01:10:36,754 --> 01:10:40,018 Didn't know how it was going to alter the future. 1648 01:10:40,148 --> 01:10:42,194 - I'd got into this vicious cycle of, 1649 01:10:42,325 --> 01:10:45,197 I'm depressed so I need more pills. 1650 01:10:45,284 --> 01:10:47,068 And then your tolerance gets so high 1651 01:10:47,155 --> 01:10:49,767 that you end up overdosing. 1652 01:10:49,854 --> 01:10:52,378 I woke up in the hospital, and I didn't 1653 01:10:52,509 --> 01:10:53,901 know what the fuck happened. 1654 01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:55,642 Like, it--it seemed like I-- 1655 01:10:55,773 --> 01:10:57,209 I fell asleep, and I woke up, 1656 01:10:57,296 --> 01:10:58,515 and I woke up with tubes in me and shit. 1657 01:10:58,602 --> 01:10:59,820 I wanted to get up. 1658 01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:01,082 I couldn't move. 1659 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,828 After the overdose, I came home going, 1660 01:11:07,959 --> 01:11:13,051 yo, bro, I need something, and I fucking went to town. 1661 01:11:13,225 --> 01:11:15,880 So I was really, like, inside knowing, like, 1662 01:11:15,967 --> 01:11:17,621 I need to fucking-- 1663 01:11:17,795 --> 01:11:20,754 I'm going to die if I don't-- if I don't do something. 1664 01:11:23,322 --> 01:11:26,499 I had this video that they brought me 1665 01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:29,763 because I missed Hailie's first guitar recital. 1666 01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:32,244 The amount of guilt that I felt, 1667 01:11:32,375 --> 01:11:34,986 I cried when I saw it 'cause I was like, 1668 01:11:35,116 --> 01:11:38,206 oh, my God, I missed that. 1669 01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:41,471 And I kept saying to myself, 1670 01:11:41,558 --> 01:11:43,211 "Do you want to fucking miss this again? 1671 01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:45,736 Do you want to miss everything?" 1672 01:11:45,866 --> 01:11:48,652 ♪ ♪ 1673 01:11:48,782 --> 01:11:50,088 If you can't do it for yourself, 1674 01:11:50,218 --> 01:11:53,004 you fucking pussy, at least do it for them. 1675 01:11:55,528 --> 01:11:59,402 I realized I'm never doing this again. 1676 01:11:59,532 --> 01:12:02,927 [microphone feedback] 1677 01:12:03,101 --> 01:12:05,277 - When I heard the news that he, like, overdosed, 1678 01:12:05,408 --> 01:12:08,367 I was like, fuck. Like, damn. 1679 01:12:08,454 --> 01:12:10,674 Like, he could have actually-- 1680 01:12:10,804 --> 01:12:13,285 he could have really died. 1681 01:12:13,372 --> 01:12:14,895 For me with celebrities, it almost feels 1682 01:12:15,026 --> 01:12:16,506 like they are untouchable. 1683 01:12:16,593 --> 01:12:17,855 So whenever you hear that a celebrity 1684 01:12:17,942 --> 01:12:19,335 died or almost died, 1685 01:12:19,465 --> 01:12:21,511 it's always like-- it hits you differently 1686 01:12:21,685 --> 01:12:25,036 from, like, uh, like a normal person. 1687 01:12:25,166 --> 01:12:26,864 - I was just in shock. 1688 01:12:26,951 --> 01:12:28,822 So I made a point, I'm playing Eminem 1689 01:12:28,953 --> 01:12:30,563 every single day 1690 01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,260 until he gets out and until he gets better, 1691 01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:34,393 until--until he comes back to his rap. 1692 01:12:34,567 --> 01:12:36,439 And that's what I did, every single song 1693 01:12:36,526 --> 01:12:39,616 over and over on replay. 1694 01:12:39,703 --> 01:12:41,052 - While I was sitting in detox, 1695 01:12:41,182 --> 01:12:42,575 I didn't know exactly 1696 01:12:42,706 --> 01:12:45,535 what I was going to do with my career. 1697 01:12:45,622 --> 01:12:46,884 - At that time, I was just thinking, 1698 01:12:46,971 --> 01:12:47,885 like, this can't be it. 1699 01:12:48,015 --> 01:12:49,103 Like, in the back of my mind, of course, 1700 01:12:49,234 --> 01:12:50,540 I'm scared that it is. 1701 01:12:50,627 --> 01:12:52,759 - No new music, no new tours, no new interviews, 1702 01:12:52,933 --> 01:12:54,674 no new jokes, whatever the case is. 1703 01:12:54,761 --> 01:12:56,502 It's just, he'd be gone. 1704 01:12:56,589 --> 01:13:00,724 - To me, it was like, Eminem, I know it's hard, 1705 01:13:00,854 --> 01:13:05,381 but one day you are coming back. 1706 01:13:05,511 --> 01:13:07,295 - I had to relearn how to walk, talk, 1707 01:13:07,426 --> 01:13:08,862 and, for the most part, 1708 01:13:08,949 --> 01:13:11,387 had to relearn how to rap again. 1709 01:13:11,517 --> 01:13:14,520 My writing had gotten terrible. 1710 01:13:14,607 --> 01:13:17,218 - What did it feel like when it started to work again? 1711 01:13:17,349 --> 01:13:19,830 - Um, when I started to get it back, 1712 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,660 it was exciting because I felt it. 1713 01:13:23,790 --> 01:13:26,924 It would be in conversations, just having conversations 1714 01:13:27,011 --> 01:13:28,882 with people or the TV. 1715 01:13:28,969 --> 01:13:31,363 Like, every--every phrase that someone said on TV, 1716 01:13:31,537 --> 01:13:34,192 oh, you said the word "the." 1717 01:13:34,322 --> 01:13:36,281 Duh, uh. 1718 01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:38,370 It was hitting me really fast, 1719 01:13:38,501 --> 01:13:40,807 and I was writing songs really quickly. 1720 01:13:40,981 --> 01:13:42,156 What--what's going on? 1721 01:13:42,330 --> 01:13:43,549 [cheering] 1722 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,333 What are you guys doing? 1723 01:13:45,421 --> 01:13:47,379 Do you mind if I come out and maybe join you or something? 1724 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:49,120 - You wanna come out? Come on, baby. 1725 01:13:49,207 --> 01:13:51,644 - Eminem! - Get over here. 1726 01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:53,385 - When he first announced "Relapse," 1727 01:13:53,559 --> 01:13:55,213 it felt like Christmas to me. 1728 01:13:55,343 --> 01:13:57,650 Because when an album comes out, 1729 01:13:57,781 --> 01:14:00,958 I listen to an album front to back, 1730 01:14:01,045 --> 01:14:02,481 and then back to front, 1731 01:14:02,655 --> 01:14:06,964 and then to the end again, for months at a time. 1732 01:14:07,094 --> 01:14:10,707 So listening to "Relapse" was amazing to me, 1733 01:14:10,794 --> 01:14:12,186 just to hear that he's back. 1734 01:14:12,317 --> 01:14:15,233 I was just so, so ecstatic, so proud, and so happy 1735 01:14:15,363 --> 01:14:16,234 that I could hear him again. 1736 01:14:16,364 --> 01:14:17,975 - Number one, you look good. 1737 01:14:18,062 --> 01:14:20,238 Number two, you're number one right now, 1738 01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:21,326 as far as your album's concerned, 1739 01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:22,588 and number three, you're number one 1740 01:14:22,762 --> 01:14:24,068 in the UK as well. 1741 01:14:24,242 --> 01:14:25,373 So congratulations. 1742 01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:27,375 How does it feel? - Yeah, thank you. 1743 01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:28,725 It feels great. I mean, I'm just, 1744 01:14:28,812 --> 01:14:29,987 you know, I'm glad to be back. 1745 01:14:30,161 --> 01:14:31,292 [cheers and applause] 1746 01:14:31,379 --> 01:14:33,120 Guess who? 1747 01:14:33,251 --> 01:14:34,557 You miss me? 1748 01:14:34,644 --> 01:14:36,820 Jessica Simpson, sing the chorus. 1749 01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:38,517 - ♪ When you walked through the door ♪ 1750 01:14:38,604 --> 01:14:40,171 ♪ It was clear to me ♪ 1751 01:14:40,301 --> 01:14:41,564 - ♪ Clear to me ♪ 1752 01:14:41,694 --> 01:14:42,390 - ♪ You're the one they adore ♪ 1753 01:14:42,565 --> 01:14:44,218 ♪ Who they came to see ♪ 1754 01:14:44,349 --> 01:14:45,393 - ♪ Who they came to see ♪ 1755 01:14:45,524 --> 01:14:47,091 - ♪ You're a rock star ♪ 1756 01:14:47,221 --> 01:14:48,135 - You know what I love about your work, 1757 01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:49,441 and I'm sure many people do, 1758 01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:51,269 is there's a sense of humor. It's funny. 1759 01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:53,663 Uh, you diss some people in the new single. 1760 01:14:53,793 --> 01:14:55,099 - Some. - Yeah. 1761 01:14:55,186 --> 01:14:56,317 [laughter] 1762 01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:57,754 - ♪ Back by popular demand ♪ 1763 01:14:57,928 --> 01:15:00,234 ♪ Now pop a little Zantac for antacid if you can ♪ 1764 01:15:00,365 --> 01:15:03,629 - As wickedly shrewd and sharp as he is lyrically 1765 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,805 with these scathing disses of other people, 1766 01:15:05,892 --> 01:15:08,678 he was equally on his own case, 1767 01:15:08,808 --> 01:15:11,811 equally making fun of himself. 1768 01:15:11,942 --> 01:15:13,813 And all of that makes you endearing to people. 1769 01:15:13,944 --> 01:15:17,556 ♪ ♪ 1770 01:15:17,643 --> 01:15:19,471 - His disses were always funny, 1771 01:15:19,558 --> 01:15:21,299 and he did something with his voice. 1772 01:15:21,429 --> 01:15:22,518 Different character, right? 1773 01:15:22,648 --> 01:15:24,302 Flowing pretty damn cool, though. 1774 01:15:24,476 --> 01:15:27,827 - The whole, like, weird accent thing that he did on it 1775 01:15:27,958 --> 01:15:29,220 kind of threw me off. 1776 01:15:29,307 --> 01:15:31,135 Then when I listened to it more, 1777 01:15:31,222 --> 01:15:33,964 I'm like, damn, I was missing out on, like, some good shit. 1778 01:15:34,094 --> 01:15:35,922 ♪ ♪ 1779 01:15:36,096 --> 01:15:38,795 [electricity crackling] 1780 01:15:41,058 --> 01:15:44,365 - The response that I got from "Relapse" was lukewarm. 1781 01:15:44,496 --> 01:15:47,630 That hurt a little bit, but it also turned the lights on. 1782 01:15:47,717 --> 01:15:50,720 Like, you got to do something different. 1783 01:15:50,894 --> 01:15:53,461 Why don't you try embracing sobriety? 1784 01:15:53,592 --> 01:15:56,943 [soft music] 1785 01:15:58,641 --> 01:16:04,037 I realized, like, I'm not embarrassed anymore about it. 1786 01:16:04,168 --> 01:16:07,214 And I started treating sobriety like a superpower, 1787 01:16:07,345 --> 01:16:10,957 and I took pride in the fact that I was able to quit. 1788 01:16:11,088 --> 01:16:13,133 ♪ ♪ 1789 01:16:13,264 --> 01:16:15,745 - "Recovery" was a breath of fresh air for him. 1790 01:16:15,832 --> 01:16:17,355 I think it really sounded like someone 1791 01:16:17,529 --> 01:16:23,753 who was reclaiming his own life and his own narrative. 1792 01:16:23,883 --> 01:16:26,190 ♪ ♪ 1793 01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:28,366 - Getting sober and going through what he went through 1794 01:16:28,496 --> 01:16:31,325 made him a totally different person and artist. 1795 01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:33,850 He just used different flows and different cadences 1796 01:16:33,937 --> 01:16:35,678 and ways of rapping on tunes. 1797 01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:39,333 So for me as a fan, it was like becoming 1798 01:16:39,464 --> 01:16:41,901 a fan of a totally new artist. 1799 01:16:42,032 --> 01:16:45,731 ♪ ♪ 1800 01:16:58,004 --> 01:17:00,006 I was there in the front. 1801 01:17:00,137 --> 01:17:01,704 - Everybody here tonight who is an Eminem fan, 1802 01:17:01,791 --> 01:17:03,706 man, I just want to say 1803 01:17:03,793 --> 01:17:06,665 thank you for the support, man, 1804 01:17:06,752 --> 01:17:09,842 and not giving up on me, man. 1805 01:17:09,973 --> 01:17:13,150 I love y'all and I couldn't have did it without you, 1806 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,718 so this song is for you. 1807 01:17:15,805 --> 01:17:18,024 [Eminem's "Not Afraid"] 1808 01:17:18,198 --> 01:17:20,374 ♪ I'm not afraid - Sing it, y'all. 1809 01:17:20,505 --> 01:17:22,942 - ♪ To take a stand - Get this business right. 1810 01:17:23,029 --> 01:17:25,466 - ♪ Everybody - I guess I had to... 1811 01:17:25,553 --> 01:17:26,990 - ♪ Come take my hand ♪ 1812 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,948 - Go to that place... - ♪ On this road together ♪ 1813 01:17:29,035 --> 01:17:31,037 - To get to this one. 1814 01:17:31,168 --> 01:17:34,693 And some of you might still be in that place, 1815 01:17:34,780 --> 01:17:35,912 - ♪ Let you know, you're not alone ♪ 1816 01:17:35,999 --> 01:17:37,391 - Trying to get out. 1817 01:17:37,522 --> 01:17:38,828 - ♪ Holla if you feel that ♪ 1818 01:17:39,002 --> 01:17:40,830 ♪ You've been down the same road ♪ 1819 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,179 - ♪ Read my lyrics off of this paper ♪ 1820 01:17:42,266 --> 01:17:43,615 ♪ Before I lay 'em ♪ 1821 01:17:43,746 --> 01:17:44,964 ♪ But you won't take the sting out these words ♪ 1822 01:17:45,095 --> 01:17:46,183 ♪ Before I say 'em ♪ 1823 01:17:46,313 --> 01:17:47,619 ♪ 'Cause ain't no way I'ma let you ♪ 1824 01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:48,968 ♪ Stop me from causing mayhem ♪ 1825 01:17:49,099 --> 01:17:50,840 ♪ When I say I'ma do something, I do it ♪ 1826 01:17:50,927 --> 01:17:52,232 ♪ I don't give a damn what you think ♪ 1827 01:17:52,363 --> 01:17:53,843 ♪ I'm doing this for me ♪ 1828 01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:55,018 ♪ So fuck the world, feed it beans ♪ 1829 01:17:55,148 --> 01:17:57,020 ♪ It's gassed up if it thinks it's stopping me ♪ 1830 01:17:57,150 --> 01:17:59,109 ♪ I'ma be what I set out to be ♪ 1831 01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:03,069 - That album helped rectify a lot of things in my life. 1832 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,854 Talking about going through losing his friend, 1833 01:18:05,028 --> 01:18:08,814 talking about the sleeping pill addiction. 1834 01:18:08,945 --> 01:18:10,990 I'm just like Marshall. 1835 01:18:11,077 --> 01:18:13,906 There's times when, in a 48-hour period, 1836 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,170 I'd blow through 30 to 45 Ambien, like it was nothing. 1837 01:18:17,257 --> 01:18:19,825 - ♪ Like a fuck you for Christmas ♪ 1838 01:18:19,912 --> 01:18:21,958 - Watching how he's gotten sober, 1839 01:18:22,088 --> 01:18:24,874 I didn't feel the need to numb myself anymore. 1840 01:18:24,961 --> 01:18:26,963 - ♪ I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ♪ 1841 01:18:27,050 --> 01:18:29,966 ♪ To take a stand, to take a stand ♪ 1842 01:18:30,053 --> 01:18:33,534 - I'm sitting down at home one day, 1843 01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:37,234 and I'm just drinking, and I pop the pill, 1844 01:18:37,321 --> 01:18:39,453 and "Not Afraid" came on. 1845 01:18:39,540 --> 01:18:42,413 I took it like he was speaking to me. 1846 01:18:42,587 --> 01:18:44,284 And that moment, that day, 1847 01:18:44,458 --> 01:18:46,634 that night gave me that push to say, 1848 01:18:46,809 --> 01:18:49,202 I'm done. 1849 01:18:49,289 --> 01:18:50,638 I have a wife now. I have a kid. 1850 01:18:50,769 --> 01:18:52,205 I have responsibilities. 1851 01:18:52,292 --> 01:18:54,251 I can't--I have to stop this. 1852 01:18:54,338 --> 01:18:56,427 So if I didn't act on it in that moment, 1853 01:18:56,557 --> 01:18:59,517 I would have been screwed. 1854 01:18:59,647 --> 01:19:02,215 He was by my side, helping me 1855 01:19:02,346 --> 01:19:05,175 so I could be completely clean and clear out my head 1856 01:19:05,349 --> 01:19:07,220 and start doing something with my life. 1857 01:19:07,351 --> 01:19:09,309 - ♪ Put my life back together right now ♪ 1858 01:19:09,396 --> 01:19:11,311 ♪ It was my decision to get clean ♪ 1859 01:19:11,442 --> 01:19:12,878 ♪ I did it for me ♪ 1860 01:19:13,009 --> 01:19:15,620 ♪ Admittedly, I probably did it subliminally for you ♪ 1861 01:19:15,794 --> 01:19:17,535 ♪ So I could come back a brand-new me ♪ 1862 01:19:17,665 --> 01:19:18,797 ♪ You helped see me through ♪ 1863 01:19:18,928 --> 01:19:19,929 ♪ And don't even realize what you did ♪ 1864 01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:21,365 ♪ 'Cause believe me, you ♪ 1865 01:19:21,539 --> 01:19:22,845 ♪ I've been through the wringer ♪ 1866 01:19:23,019 --> 01:19:24,629 ♪ But they can do little to the middle finger ♪ 1867 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,109 ♪ I think I got a tear in my eye ♪ 1868 01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:27,980 ♪ I feel like the king of my world ♪ 1869 01:19:28,067 --> 01:19:29,808 ♪ Haters can make like bees with no stingers ♪ 1870 01:19:29,939 --> 01:19:30,896 ♪ And drop dead ♪ 1871 01:19:30,983 --> 01:19:32,115 ♪ No more beef lingers ♪ 1872 01:19:32,245 --> 01:19:33,943 ♪ No more drama from now on ♪ 1873 01:19:34,030 --> 01:19:36,380 ♪ I promise to focus only on handling my responsibilities ♪ 1874 01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:37,816 ♪ As a father ♪ 1875 01:19:37,947 --> 01:19:39,513 ♪ So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof ♪ 1876 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,211 ♪ Like my daughters and raise it ♪ 1877 01:19:41,341 --> 01:19:43,169 ♪ You couldn't lift a single shingle on it ♪ 1878 01:19:43,343 --> 01:19:44,954 ♪ 'Cause the way I feel I'm strong enough ♪ 1879 01:19:45,084 --> 01:19:46,999 ♪ To go to the club or the corner bar ♪ 1880 01:19:47,086 --> 01:19:48,784 ♪ And lift the whole liquor counter up ♪ 1881 01:19:48,914 --> 01:19:50,002 ♪ 'Cause I'm raising the bar ♪ 1882 01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:51,308 ♪ I'd shoot for the moon ♪ 1883 01:19:51,395 --> 01:19:52,439 ♪ But I'm too busy gazing at stars ♪ 1884 01:19:52,526 --> 01:19:53,963 ♪ I feel amazing, and ♪ 1885 01:19:54,093 --> 01:19:56,443 ♪ I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ♪ 1886 01:19:56,574 --> 01:19:59,403 ♪ To take a stand, to take a stand ♪ 1887 01:19:59,533 --> 01:20:01,884 ♪ Everybody, everybody ♪ 1888 01:20:01,971 --> 01:20:04,234 ♪ Come take my hand, come take my hand ♪ 1889 01:20:04,364 --> 01:20:08,020 ♪ We'll walk this road together through the storm ♪ 1890 01:20:08,107 --> 01:20:10,153 ♪ Whatever the weather, cold or warm ♪ 1891 01:20:10,283 --> 01:20:13,330 ♪ Just letting you know that you're not alone ♪ 1892 01:20:13,417 --> 01:20:16,028 ♪ Holla if you feel like you've ♪ 1893 01:20:16,202 --> 01:20:20,076 ♪ Been down the same road ♪ 1894 01:20:20,206 --> 01:20:22,078 - When I was young, I was really using music, 1895 01:20:22,208 --> 01:20:25,777 and oftentimes Eminem's music, to self-medicate 1896 01:20:25,864 --> 01:20:28,084 for my generalized anxiety disorder. 1897 01:20:28,214 --> 01:20:30,173 Just kind of having a hard time with life 1898 01:20:30,260 --> 01:20:31,914 and just processing different emotions, 1899 01:20:32,044 --> 01:20:35,613 from being bullied at school or wanting to date girls 1900 01:20:35,743 --> 01:20:37,354 and being rejected. 1901 01:20:37,528 --> 01:20:38,921 Like, you know, all the things that come with adolescence. 1902 01:20:40,487 --> 01:20:42,533 As I got older, I started at UNC and 1903 01:20:42,663 --> 01:20:44,840 led a team of researchers, and we analyzed 1904 01:20:44,970 --> 01:20:48,147 rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018. 1905 01:20:48,278 --> 01:20:52,804 We saw mental health references go from 8% to 44%. 1906 01:20:52,978 --> 01:20:54,980 Our findings were a reflection 1907 01:20:55,111 --> 01:20:56,677 of society changing, 1908 01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:59,028 and there were certain artists early on, 1909 01:20:59,202 --> 01:21:00,899 Eminem among them, 1910 01:21:01,073 --> 01:21:04,468 who really kind of normalized it 1911 01:21:04,598 --> 01:21:06,774 and made it OK to talk about these difficult feelings 1912 01:21:06,862 --> 01:21:08,080 and emotions. 1913 01:21:08,211 --> 01:21:09,647 [Eminem's "Walk On Water"] 1914 01:21:09,734 --> 01:21:11,954 - There's so much strength in vulnerability, 1915 01:21:12,084 --> 01:21:14,826 and that is such a powerful thing. 1916 01:21:14,913 --> 01:21:19,091 That's one of the reasons for Eminem's success. 1917 01:21:19,222 --> 01:21:21,137 When he's really vulnerable, 1918 01:21:21,267 --> 01:21:24,009 and he takes you there, when he's talking about himself, 1919 01:21:24,096 --> 01:21:26,229 and the downsides of himself, 1920 01:21:26,316 --> 01:21:28,796 those are the things that I gravitate to 1921 01:21:28,927 --> 01:21:30,624 more so than anything. 1922 01:21:32,191 --> 01:21:34,585 - ♪ I'm a Rubik's, a beautiful mess ♪ 1923 01:21:34,715 --> 01:21:35,586 ♪ At times juvenile, yes ♪ 1924 01:21:35,716 --> 01:21:38,110 ♪ I goof and I jest ♪ 1925 01:21:38,241 --> 01:21:39,895 ♪ A flawed human, I guess ♪ 1926 01:21:39,982 --> 01:21:41,853 ♪ But I'm doing my best to not ruin ♪ 1927 01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:43,376 ♪ Your expectations and meet 'em ♪ 1928 01:21:43,507 --> 01:21:45,117 ♪ But first the "Speedom" verse ♪ 1929 01:21:45,204 --> 01:21:46,727 ♪ Now, Big Sean, he's going too fast ♪ 1930 01:21:46,902 --> 01:21:48,991 ♪ Is he gonna shout or curse out his mom ♪ 1931 01:21:49,165 --> 01:21:51,297 ♪ There was a time I had the world by the balls ♪ 1932 01:21:51,428 --> 01:21:52,951 ♪ Eating out my palm ♪ 1933 01:21:53,082 --> 01:21:55,998 ♪ Every album song I was spazzing the fuck out on ♪ 1934 01:21:56,128 --> 01:21:57,695 ♪ And now I'm getting clowned and frowned on ♪ 1935 01:21:57,825 --> 01:21:59,697 ♪ But the only one who's looking down on me ♪ 1936 01:21:59,871 --> 01:22:01,917 ♪ That matters now's DeShaun ♪ 1937 01:22:02,004 --> 01:22:03,831 ♪ Am I lucky to be around this long ♪ 1938 01:22:03,962 --> 01:22:05,833 - Eminem was one of 1939 01:22:05,964 --> 01:22:08,924 the most important people in this trend. 1940 01:22:09,011 --> 01:22:11,361 He made it more acceptable for other artists 1941 01:22:11,535 --> 01:22:13,667 to really talk about these complex emotions. 1942 01:22:13,841 --> 01:22:20,936 ♪ 1943 01:23:07,852 --> 01:23:12,988 - I really felt like those lyrics were written for me. 1944 01:23:13,118 --> 01:23:15,207 It's extremely therapeutic, 1945 01:23:15,338 --> 01:23:18,863 and I don't take that for granted. 1946 01:23:18,994 --> 01:23:21,779 - He really has gone through so much and struggled, 1947 01:23:21,909 --> 01:23:24,608 and I felt connected to him in a way 1948 01:23:24,782 --> 01:23:29,047 that I ended up changing my legal name to Marshall. 1949 01:23:29,178 --> 01:23:30,962 It's kind of a reminder to not feel like I have to 1950 01:23:31,093 --> 01:23:34,009 apologize for who I am. 1951 01:23:36,315 --> 01:23:39,362 [soft music] 1952 01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:46,543 ♪ ♪ 1953 01:24:20,664 --> 01:24:23,232 - I originally wrote this letter to Eminem 1954 01:24:23,319 --> 01:24:25,016 three months ago, but I never sent it. 1955 01:24:30,108 --> 01:24:33,024 "Dear Eminem, I'm not sure you're going 1956 01:24:33,155 --> 01:24:34,895 "to get this or even read it. 1957 01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:36,941 "I'm just going to write down how I feel about everything, 1958 01:24:37,115 --> 01:24:39,335 "because, honestly, you're one of the only people that 1959 01:24:39,465 --> 01:24:41,467 "are helping me get through this, even if I'm just 1960 01:24:41,641 --> 01:24:43,295 "a random 14-year-old girl 1961 01:24:43,382 --> 01:24:45,515 "probably having one of those mood swings. 1962 01:24:45,602 --> 01:24:47,734 "Don't worry, I won't end up like your song 'Stan,' 1963 01:24:47,865 --> 01:24:49,432 "even though it's one of my favorites. 1964 01:24:49,562 --> 01:24:51,825 "But it will never beat 'Mockingbird.' 1965 01:24:51,912 --> 01:24:53,958 "That fucking song saved my life. 1966 01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:55,873 "My parents are constantly fighting about stuff 1967 01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,527 "that don't even matter. 1968 01:24:57,657 --> 01:25:00,225 "And it gets annoying, because when I say something about it, 1969 01:25:00,356 --> 01:25:01,879 "I get blamed for it. 1970 01:25:01,966 --> 01:25:05,752 "And the only one that I feel cares about me 1971 01:25:05,926 --> 01:25:08,146 "is my brother, because he was the one 1972 01:25:08,277 --> 01:25:10,453 "that had me listening to you ever since I was born. 1973 01:25:10,583 --> 01:25:12,455 "He's in his 20s, and I love him a lot, 1974 01:25:12,542 --> 01:25:15,719 and I wish my parents..." [laughs] 1975 01:25:15,893 --> 01:25:17,416 "Loved me as much as he did. 1976 01:25:17,547 --> 01:25:19,505 "I thought about how much you care about Hailie 1977 01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:21,072 "and just wish they cared about me 1978 01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:22,769 "as much as you did with her. 1979 01:25:22,856 --> 01:25:24,771 "It's crazy that your songs and even your silly interviews 1980 01:25:24,902 --> 01:25:26,904 "make me feel happier than my family ever did. 1981 01:25:26,991 --> 01:25:28,775 "I know I'm just another Eminem fan who 1982 01:25:28,906 --> 01:25:30,908 "has a sad backstory or some other shit like that, 1983 01:25:31,082 --> 01:25:32,475 "but you're such a cool guy. 1984 01:25:32,605 --> 01:25:35,434 "I admire you, and if my parents did, 1985 01:25:35,565 --> 01:25:37,219 "maybe they'd be an even better parent like you are. 1986 01:25:37,306 --> 01:25:39,525 Hope you get this, Kripa." 1987 01:25:39,656 --> 01:25:41,179 [laughs] 1988 01:25:41,310 --> 01:25:43,050 - Why do you think you chose him as an outlet 1989 01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:45,401 for your tough feelings? 1990 01:25:45,531 --> 01:25:46,663 - Um, sorry, wait. 1991 01:25:46,793 --> 01:25:49,100 [laughs] 1992 01:25:49,274 --> 01:25:52,669 Um, probably because, like, 1993 01:25:52,799 --> 01:25:55,541 he's had a really tough childhood too, so I feel like, 1994 01:25:55,715 --> 01:25:57,543 um, he would relate a little bit. 1995 01:25:57,674 --> 01:26:03,462 Taking my feelings out with, like, writing something-- 1996 01:26:03,549 --> 01:26:04,898 sorry. 1997 01:26:04,985 --> 01:26:11,122 Um, I feel like it, like, makes me feel better. 1998 01:26:11,296 --> 01:26:14,125 [somber music] 1999 01:26:14,256 --> 01:26:17,128 [crying] 2000 01:26:17,259 --> 01:26:20,392 ♪ ♪ 2001 01:26:20,523 --> 01:26:23,221 I feel like it makes me feel better 2002 01:26:23,352 --> 01:26:25,180 'cause there's also other people out there 2003 01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:26,964 going through the same thing. 2004 01:26:27,051 --> 01:26:31,490 And so if they see what I'm going through 2005 01:26:31,577 --> 01:26:33,405 and what, like, Eminem went through, 2006 01:26:33,579 --> 01:26:35,320 maybe they'll know that a lot of people 2007 01:26:35,407 --> 01:26:37,017 also go through the same things 2008 01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:40,543 that, like, other people do. 2009 01:26:42,632 --> 01:26:45,200 - A big part of my tattoos have been about 2010 01:26:45,330 --> 01:26:49,247 facing up to my mental health. 2011 01:26:49,421 --> 01:26:51,989 A lot of people really didn't like my world record. 2012 01:26:52,076 --> 01:26:53,295 What a stupid record. 2013 01:26:53,382 --> 01:26:55,427 It's ridiculous. 2014 01:26:55,558 --> 01:26:59,649 It can hurt when--when people say horrible things. 2015 01:26:59,823 --> 01:27:01,390 I've been told that I need to be locked up, 2016 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,392 I should be in a mental place. 2017 01:27:03,566 --> 01:27:07,439 [phone chiming] 2018 01:27:07,570 --> 01:27:09,311 Although I read the negative things, 2019 01:27:09,398 --> 01:27:11,008 and it's hurtful, 2020 01:27:11,138 --> 01:27:14,011 it would never change the fact that 2021 01:27:14,098 --> 01:27:17,014 I've continued to get the tattoos. 2022 01:27:17,101 --> 01:27:19,973 - Do you have a favorite Eminem song? 2023 01:27:20,060 --> 01:27:22,237 - I usually say "Not Afraid." 2024 01:27:22,411 --> 01:27:25,283 There are a lot of positives, too, 2025 01:27:25,414 --> 01:27:28,068 because my Instagram has brought a lot of other fans 2026 01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:31,376 who really relate to me in a lot of ways. 2027 01:27:31,507 --> 01:27:33,422 And I met my husband. 2028 01:27:33,552 --> 01:27:34,814 [phone chimes] 2029 01:27:37,556 --> 01:27:39,689 He's a really big Eminem fan as well, 2030 01:27:39,819 --> 01:27:42,866 and he reached out to me. 2031 01:27:42,996 --> 01:27:45,564 It's really nice to have somebody that 2032 01:27:45,651 --> 01:27:48,001 gets the whole Eminem thing. 2033 01:27:48,088 --> 01:27:50,656 I get these impulsive thoughts in my head. 2034 01:27:50,743 --> 01:27:53,659 I was like, we should get married in Detroit. 2035 01:27:53,790 --> 01:27:55,922 We got married at St. Andrew's Hall, 2036 01:27:56,009 --> 01:27:59,012 which is one of the first places that Eminem performed. 2037 01:27:59,143 --> 01:28:03,452 And now we've got a son. 2038 01:28:03,626 --> 01:28:04,975 Without Eminem, 2039 01:28:05,105 --> 01:28:08,021 I wouldn't have the life I have right now. 2040 01:28:08,195 --> 01:28:11,286 [soft music] 2041 01:28:16,203 --> 01:28:17,466 [doorbell jingles] 2042 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,555 [upbeat music] 2043 01:28:19,685 --> 01:28:23,733 - What do you think is meant by "The Death of Slim Shady"? 2044 01:28:23,907 --> 01:28:24,864 - Who knows how he means it? 2045 01:28:24,995 --> 01:28:25,909 He's a satirist. 2046 01:28:26,083 --> 01:28:27,389 He could be, like, 2047 01:28:27,563 --> 01:28:29,173 saying let's cancel Slim Shady. 2048 01:28:29,347 --> 01:28:33,046 Which is kind of funny to even think about. 2049 01:28:33,133 --> 01:28:36,920 [laughs] Slim Shady can't be canceled. 2050 01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:40,402 - "The Death of Slim Shady" is a concept album, 2051 01:28:40,576 --> 01:28:42,012 so you gotta listen from start to finish, 2052 01:28:42,142 --> 01:28:44,841 um, and it's about Slim Shady, his character 2053 01:28:44,928 --> 01:28:49,019 that he started 25 years ago, and how his character 2054 01:28:49,106 --> 01:28:50,673 would be in this age. 2055 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,893 - ♪ Sometimes I wonder what the old me'd say ♪ 2056 01:28:53,980 --> 01:28:55,460 ♪ If what ♪ 2057 01:28:55,591 --> 01:28:58,158 ♪ If he could see the way shit is today ♪ 2058 01:28:58,289 --> 01:29:00,813 ♪ He'd probably say that everything is gay ♪ 2059 01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:02,162 ♪ Like happy ♪ 2060 01:29:02,293 --> 01:29:04,034 ♪ What's my name, what's my name ♪ 2061 01:29:04,164 --> 01:29:06,036 ♪ Chicka Slim Shady ♪ 2062 01:29:06,123 --> 01:29:08,560 [explosion] 2063 01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:16,438 - This album is about, I'm not holding back. 2064 01:29:16,612 --> 01:29:18,875 I'm gonna do everything I can to get canceled. 2065 01:29:18,962 --> 01:29:20,659 - ♪ If I think that shit, I'ma say that shit ♪ 2066 01:29:20,746 --> 01:29:22,487 ♪ Cancel me, what, OK, that's it ♪ 2067 01:29:22,574 --> 01:29:23,923 ♪ Go ahead, Paul, quit ♪ 2068 01:29:24,054 --> 01:29:25,534 - I'm not sure people actually understand now 2069 01:29:25,664 --> 01:29:26,970 that Slim Shady is a character. 2070 01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:29,102 I feel like the new album just offended more people, 2071 01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:31,714 but I think that that was kind of the intention. 2072 01:29:31,844 --> 01:29:33,498 The world is in a very different place 2073 01:29:33,585 --> 01:29:36,153 to where it was in 1999. 2074 01:29:36,327 --> 01:29:38,198 - Gen Z wants to cancel him. 2075 01:29:38,329 --> 01:29:39,678 Nobody can cancel Eminem. 2076 01:29:39,765 --> 01:29:40,940 Jesus Christ himself 2077 01:29:41,071 --> 01:29:43,334 will have to come down and cancel Eminem, 2078 01:29:43,465 --> 01:29:44,944 and he ain't coming down either. 2079 01:29:45,075 --> 01:29:49,253 - As his fan base, we all grew into this whole family, 2080 01:29:49,427 --> 01:29:50,950 and we're going to protect this man 2081 01:29:51,037 --> 01:29:52,909 by any means necessary. 2082 01:29:52,996 --> 01:29:54,998 - Going online and seeing people 2083 01:29:55,128 --> 01:29:56,782 trying to cancel Eminem, 2084 01:29:56,956 --> 01:29:58,393 that is soft, 2085 01:29:58,523 --> 01:30:00,786 and fuck you if you don't like it. 2086 01:30:00,917 --> 01:30:03,354 Throw up a middle finger and let it linger. 2087 01:30:03,441 --> 01:30:05,965 - I don't give a fuck, mostly. 2088 01:30:06,096 --> 01:30:07,053 Calm down, Slim. 2089 01:30:07,140 --> 01:30:09,099 We both made Eminem. 2090 01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:10,970 He's the best of both of us. 2091 01:30:11,101 --> 01:30:13,320 And, really, it's not about me or you. 2092 01:30:13,451 --> 01:30:15,714 It's about him and the fans. 2093 01:30:15,845 --> 01:30:17,847 Damn. 2094 01:30:17,977 --> 01:30:20,153 I don't even want to fucking admit it, 2095 01:30:20,284 --> 01:30:22,765 but your bitch ass is right. 2096 01:30:22,852 --> 01:30:24,331 I'm embarrassed. 2097 01:30:24,462 --> 01:30:26,203 When I'm in Paris, I'm embarrassed 2098 01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:28,292 of my parents' parrot. 2099 01:30:37,344 --> 01:30:39,738 - I'm sure 200%, 1,000%. 2100 01:30:39,825 --> 01:30:41,697 [indistinct chatter] 2101 01:30:41,871 --> 01:30:44,264 - Everyone, no matter how old or young, 2102 01:30:44,395 --> 01:30:45,788 will appreciate Eminem's music. 2103 01:30:45,875 --> 01:30:49,095 - ♪ A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D ♪ 2104 01:30:49,182 --> 01:30:51,576 ♪ E-F-G, E-F-G ♪ 2105 01:30:51,707 --> 01:30:54,231 ♪ H-I-J-K, H-I-J-K ♪ 2106 01:30:54,361 --> 01:30:56,363 - People who have not been born yet 2107 01:30:56,451 --> 01:30:59,105 will follow his music, 2108 01:30:59,236 --> 01:31:00,672 reopen "The Slim Shady LP," 2109 01:31:00,803 --> 01:31:02,065 and love him from start to finish. 2110 01:31:02,195 --> 01:31:04,067 [bright music] 2111 01:31:04,241 --> 01:31:05,590 I'll be looking down proud, 2112 01:31:05,721 --> 01:31:08,027 like, yeah, damn straight, y'all. 2113 01:31:08,114 --> 01:31:09,420 You get that white tee on. 2114 01:31:09,551 --> 01:31:11,074 You get those baggy blue jeans. 2115 01:31:11,204 --> 01:31:12,858 For sure. Rock it. 2116 01:31:13,032 --> 01:31:16,253 - A hundred years from now, in the catalogs of catalogs, 2117 01:31:16,383 --> 01:31:19,169 you'll be able to go back and listen to "Lose Yourself" 2118 01:31:19,299 --> 01:31:23,565 or "The Way I Am," and you'll know Eminem was that guy. 2119 01:31:23,739 --> 01:31:25,305 - All great artists have the ability 2120 01:31:25,436 --> 01:31:26,872 to reinvent themselves. 2121 01:31:27,003 --> 01:31:29,353 And yet, I feel like every time a lot of artists 2122 01:31:29,484 --> 01:31:31,834 do that, they always sacrifice a little bit of something, 2123 01:31:31,921 --> 01:31:35,054 and Marshall's never sacrificed anything. 2124 01:31:35,141 --> 01:31:39,276 He's, like, remained true to the first day I met him. 2125 01:31:39,363 --> 01:31:41,278 - I'm just happy I went after my dreams 2126 01:31:41,408 --> 01:31:43,846 'cause it inspired another kid to go after his dreams, 2127 01:31:43,976 --> 01:31:45,108 you know? 2128 01:31:45,282 --> 01:31:48,154 The fact that he had enough personal empathy 2129 01:31:48,328 --> 01:31:52,376 to write something where 2130 01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:55,945 the fans' feelings are being considered 2131 01:31:56,075 --> 01:31:58,338 tells you who he is, and for that, 2132 01:31:58,469 --> 01:32:00,340 I love and respect him. 2133 01:32:00,515 --> 01:32:02,734 - It's a crazy thing when all of a sudden 2134 01:32:02,821 --> 01:32:05,868 you go from being someone no one cares about 2135 01:32:05,955 --> 01:32:08,784 to someone that a lot of people care about. 2136 01:32:08,914 --> 01:32:12,831 What he's done with his life is extraordinary. 2137 01:32:12,962 --> 01:32:17,096 - He has grown to be a fantastic human being 2138 01:32:17,227 --> 01:32:21,405 that is really fucking dope at his craft. 2139 01:32:21,579 --> 01:32:25,322 He's an amazing father, and I can't wait to see 2140 01:32:25,452 --> 01:32:27,716 what he's going to turn out to be next. 2141 01:32:31,807 --> 01:32:35,158 - Coming here, were you expecting to see Eminem? 2142 01:32:35,288 --> 01:32:37,682 - Maybe. [laughs] 2143 01:32:37,813 --> 01:32:39,989 I don't-- that would be really cool. 2144 01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:42,687 - Half yes, half no. 2145 01:32:42,774 --> 01:32:44,297 - Yes and no. 2146 01:32:44,471 --> 01:32:45,647 - I didn't really expect it, 2147 01:32:45,734 --> 01:32:47,126 but I had thoughts about it, you know? 2148 01:32:47,213 --> 01:32:51,087 - I was hoping that Eminem was going to be here. 2149 01:32:51,261 --> 01:32:52,567 - He's a busy man. 2150 01:32:52,741 --> 01:32:53,959 He's got a song that he just dropped. 2151 01:32:54,133 --> 01:32:55,570 He's got an album that he's dropping soon. 2152 01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:57,223 I just wouldn't think he had the time. 2153 01:32:57,397 --> 01:32:58,703 - Oh, my God, what would I even do? 2154 01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:59,704 What would I even say? 2155 01:32:59,791 --> 01:33:02,359 - I would probably just throw up. 2156 01:33:02,446 --> 01:33:03,882 [laughs] I don't know. 2157 01:33:03,969 --> 01:33:06,276 - If I ever met Eminem, I would probably die. 2158 01:33:06,363 --> 01:33:08,191 - I don't even know, man. 2159 01:33:08,321 --> 01:33:09,714 I'd be speechless. 2160 01:33:11,673 --> 01:33:13,022 - 2013. 2161 01:33:13,196 --> 01:33:15,372 He was in Paris for his new album. 2162 01:33:20,682 --> 01:33:23,162 And the car, they're going. 2163 01:33:23,249 --> 01:33:26,818 And I was like, no, I'm not going to-- 2164 01:33:26,949 --> 01:33:31,301 to see Marshall, and 15 seconds later, 2165 01:33:31,388 --> 01:33:33,346 the car stopped. 2166 01:33:36,741 --> 01:33:39,788 "Marshall want to see you." 2167 01:33:39,962 --> 01:33:44,053 And every fan who was there 2168 01:33:44,227 --> 01:33:46,751 turned their head on me. 2169 01:33:46,838 --> 01:33:49,536 He knew my name, so I was like, 2170 01:33:49,667 --> 01:33:52,104 holy shit, he knew my name. 2171 01:34:09,513 --> 01:34:11,602 The bodyguard was like, 2172 01:34:11,776 --> 01:34:15,084 OK, OK, OK, Zolt, you go in the car. 2173 01:34:40,065 --> 01:34:41,719 Man, thank you. 2174 01:34:41,850 --> 01:34:43,721 Thank you for your music, for everything. 2175 01:34:54,732 --> 01:34:56,778 When you're an artist like Marshall, 2176 01:34:56,865 --> 01:34:58,083 you don't have time. 2177 01:34:58,214 --> 01:35:00,607 You do not have time for anything. 2178 01:35:03,567 --> 01:35:04,829 [camera shutter clicks] 2179 01:35:10,574 --> 01:35:12,837 I think he probably was shocked 2180 01:35:12,968 --> 01:35:16,711 because nobody will tell him you have to go. 2181 01:35:16,798 --> 01:35:21,106 But, you know, I'm the guy who respect his time. 2182 01:35:38,820 --> 01:35:40,952 [engine rumbles] 2183 01:35:46,262 --> 01:35:53,356 ♪ ♪ 2184 01:36:07,413 --> 01:36:12,505 - I think that people imagine stans as being, 2185 01:36:12,592 --> 01:36:14,203 you know, violent and deranged. 2186 01:36:14,377 --> 01:36:18,381 But in reality, being a stan and being a fan 2187 01:36:18,511 --> 01:36:22,037 can actually be a positive and beautiful thing. 2188 01:36:24,430 --> 01:36:27,042 I've lost a lot of people in my life, 2189 01:36:27,172 --> 01:36:29,740 but the one thing that has really gotten me through 2190 01:36:29,871 --> 01:36:32,525 all those losses has been Eminem. 2191 01:36:32,612 --> 01:36:34,397 Eminem has always been a constant 2192 01:36:34,527 --> 01:36:37,182 throughout my entire life, and for a long time, 2193 01:36:37,313 --> 01:36:38,967 I really felt unlucky 2194 01:36:39,054 --> 01:36:40,838 because I wasn't able to meet him. 2195 01:36:40,969 --> 01:36:42,797 It's like the carrot's right there, 2196 01:36:42,884 --> 01:36:45,625 but it's like I can't figure out how to get to it. 2197 01:36:45,756 --> 01:36:47,845 Now my mindset has changed, because I feel like 2198 01:36:47,976 --> 01:36:50,848 this documentary is a lot more personal 2199 01:36:50,979 --> 01:36:55,331 than it would be just me to Em saying, hi, huge fan, 2200 01:36:55,505 --> 01:36:57,333 take a picture. 2201 01:36:57,507 --> 01:36:59,814 Now he kind of can understand exactly how I've become a-- 2202 01:36:59,944 --> 01:37:02,033 like, how I've been a fan for so long 2203 01:37:02,207 --> 01:37:05,558 and, like, similar kind of struggles, 2204 01:37:05,732 --> 01:37:07,386 I guess, we've been through, 2205 01:37:07,473 --> 01:37:11,129 and just how his music has truly influenced my life 2206 01:37:11,260 --> 01:37:16,091 and helped me through really, you know, traumatic times. 2207 01:37:16,265 --> 01:37:19,659 - But a true die-hard fan really does, I think, 2208 01:37:19,790 --> 01:37:25,796 understand me and every aspect of me 2209 01:37:25,883 --> 01:37:29,974 and understands that I am just a regular person. 2210 01:37:30,105 --> 01:37:32,803 I'm just a fucking human being. 2211 01:37:35,066 --> 01:37:37,416 The reason they connect with me is because 2212 01:37:37,547 --> 01:37:39,941 they see some of themselves in me. 2213 01:37:43,466 --> 01:37:45,642 Maybe they were bullied as a kid. 2214 01:37:45,729 --> 01:37:48,863 Maybe the world fucking dealt them a raw deal. 2215 01:37:51,300 --> 01:37:54,303 But for every young person that gets older 2216 01:37:54,477 --> 01:37:58,481 and wants to pay the world back... 2217 01:37:58,611 --> 01:38:02,398 that's the person that connects with me the most, 2218 01:38:02,485 --> 01:38:04,313 because they understand me, 2219 01:38:04,487 --> 01:38:06,271 and I feel like I understand them, 2220 01:38:06,445 --> 01:38:10,188 and I get them because they're really me. 2221 01:38:10,275 --> 01:38:13,757 The fans that have grown with me from day one 2222 01:38:13,931 --> 01:38:16,847 till now, it's, like, unbelievable 2223 01:38:16,934 --> 01:38:18,196 that they're still with me, 2224 01:38:18,283 --> 01:38:20,155 and I'm very blessed to this day 2225 01:38:20,329 --> 01:38:23,680 to still have people that ride for me like that. 2226 01:38:23,810 --> 01:38:25,682 To my fans, thank you. 2227 01:38:25,812 --> 01:38:27,727 I love y'all, and I am-- 2228 01:38:27,858 --> 01:38:30,469 I would not be here, if it was not for you. 2229 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,734 So I owe you my life, 2230 01:38:34,865 --> 01:38:38,260 and that's who I do my music for is them, 2231 01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:40,218 and fuck everybody else. 2232 01:38:40,305 --> 01:38:43,918 Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em. 2233 01:38:44,092 --> 01:38:46,181 Eat a dick. 2234 01:38:46,311 --> 01:38:50,141 You don't like it, eat a fat dick. 2235 01:38:50,272 --> 01:38:52,796 [Dido's "Thank You"] 2236 01:38:52,883 --> 01:38:54,885 - Hey, Em, it's Paul again. 2237 01:38:54,972 --> 01:38:59,281 I watched the movie, and we got to talk about the ending. 2238 01:38:59,411 --> 01:39:02,066 Give me a call back. 2239 01:39:02,153 --> 01:39:06,331 - ♪ And I want to thank you ♪ 2240 01:39:06,462 --> 01:39:07,767 - All right, I only got one minute, 2241 01:39:07,898 --> 01:39:12,947 and I'm at work, and I'm at, like, 4% on my battery. 2242 01:39:13,077 --> 01:39:14,731 - OK, Gracie, one minute to do this, 2243 01:39:14,818 --> 01:39:16,211 so my daughter's gonna help me. 2244 01:39:16,341 --> 01:39:19,040 - Please excuse me. I just got up. 2245 01:39:19,170 --> 01:39:20,867 Um... 2246 01:39:20,955 --> 01:39:23,783 Marshall Mathers is... 2247 01:39:23,914 --> 01:39:26,003 - I can't believe I have this opportunity 2248 01:39:26,134 --> 01:39:29,050 even to make this video, and you might see this, dog. 2249 01:39:29,224 --> 01:39:31,922 Just know I wouldn't be me without you. 2250 01:39:32,009 --> 01:39:35,534 - I'm your biggest fan, Marshall Mathers/Eminem. 2251 01:39:35,621 --> 01:39:38,059 Detroit, baby, Detroit. 2252 01:39:38,233 --> 01:39:41,366 - I'm Lisa Mathers, and this is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II, 2253 01:39:41,540 --> 01:39:42,759 but we call him Shady for short. 2254 01:39:42,846 --> 01:39:45,544 - Just want you to know that I'm Em's biggest fan 2255 01:39:45,675 --> 01:39:48,504 because I'm pretty much the female version of him. 2256 01:39:48,591 --> 01:39:50,723 - Was just married August 26th of last year 2257 01:39:50,854 --> 01:39:52,247 and walked down the aisle 2258 01:39:52,377 --> 01:39:53,857 to the instrumental to "Lose Yourself." 2259 01:39:53,944 --> 01:39:55,206 Bum, bum, bum, bum. 2260 01:39:55,337 --> 01:39:56,555 All my friends and family were like, 2261 01:39:56,686 --> 01:39:57,948 whoa, let's get it. 2262 01:39:58,079 --> 01:40:01,082 - I am Stan. Stan I am. 2263 01:40:01,256 --> 01:40:03,258 It's kind of like Dr. Seuss, but no. 2264 01:40:03,388 --> 01:40:05,216 - I have two Eminem tattoos. 2265 01:40:05,347 --> 01:40:09,394 One on my chest. One on the other chest. 2266 01:40:09,568 --> 01:40:11,831 And a D12 tattoo. 2267 01:40:11,962 --> 01:40:16,184 - I listen to Eminem music every fucking single day. 2268 01:40:16,358 --> 01:40:18,751 I live Eminem, you can say. 2269 01:40:18,925 --> 01:40:22,929 - Mr. Mathers, I love you. 2270 01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:25,149 From Japan. 2271 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,369 - This is a piece of the tree of the old house 2272 01:40:27,456 --> 01:40:30,415 and a flower from the new house right here. 2273 01:40:30,502 --> 01:40:32,504 - Doesn't feel too great, but, at the same time, 2274 01:40:32,591 --> 01:40:33,549 it kind of does. 2275 01:40:33,679 --> 01:40:35,464 - Hello, Eminem. 2276 01:40:35,551 --> 01:40:39,381 I'm a fan, and I listen to your music all the time. 2277 01:40:39,468 --> 01:40:41,992 Have a wonderful day and take care of your family. 2278 01:40:42,123 --> 01:40:43,472 Bye. 2279 01:40:43,602 --> 01:40:48,651 - ♪ Is having the best day of my life ♪ 2280 01:40:48,781 --> 01:40:55,875 ♪ ♪