1 00:28:06,267 --> 00:28:08,812 She was my homeboy's old lady. 2 00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:11,064 She'd been gone so long I wondered what happened to her. 3 00:28:11,147 --> 00:28:13,358 I didn't know because I didn't keep tabs on her. 4 00:28:13,441 --> 00:28:16,945 We started talking, she started crying, she goes, "I know who killed her." 5 00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:23,076 And then I was just like, "Well, what do you mean?" 6 00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:44,848 She said she could hear and see, but couldn't move. 7 00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:46,307 She's, like, paralyzed. 8 00:34:10,506 --> 00:34:13,634 -You went to prison in '80 or was it-- -I think it was '80. 9 00:34:14,427 --> 00:34:16,345 Before prison, where were you living? 10 00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:21,142 Hmm. 11 00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:26,522 I believe I was living in Wilmington at my… 12 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:30,526 my stepmom's house with my dad. 13 00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:33,613 I didn't know too many people from Wilmington. 14 00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:34,697 I mean… 15 00:34:34,781 --> 00:34:37,116 I would cruise around there, but… 16 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,577 I didn't really know anybody over there. 17 00:34:53,382 --> 00:34:55,927 -Did you ever go partying at the beach? -No. 18 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:58,513 -Never used to go out there? -No. 19 00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:02,225 And you've never been to Malaga Cove, Palos Verdes Estates? 20 00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:04,352 Mm-mm. 21 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:29,585 Tell me about that case when you got arrested. 22 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,547 Took her to Redondo. 23 00:35:33,381 --> 00:35:35,716 -And, you know, we had sex. -Mm-hmm. 24 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,094 Yeah, she refused, but then… 25 00:35:38,594 --> 00:35:41,139 after that she gave in, and… 26 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,891 -And they charged you with rape. -Yeah. 27 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,102 You got off because she didn't show up. 28 00:35:46,185 --> 00:35:47,395 -Mm-hmm. -Okay. 29 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,856 Does Teresa ring a bell to you? 30 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,360 -No. -No? Nothing at all? 31 00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:13,880 Let me show you some pictures. 32 00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:14,964 Okay. 33 00:36:18,718 --> 00:36:21,888 Do you know that girl right there or remember her at all? 34 00:36:21,971 --> 00:36:23,139 -No. -No? 35 00:36:23,222 --> 00:36:24,223 Nmm-nmm. 36 00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:28,436 This lady was found dead on the beach. 37 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,564 You sure she's nobody that looks familiar to you? 38 00:36:31,647 --> 00:36:33,357 Teresa Broudreaux. 39 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:36,944 -No. -And this is 1980, March of 1980. 40 00:36:38,112 --> 00:36:39,113 No, not at all. 41 00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:55,463 No. Nmm-nmm. 42 00:36:55,546 --> 00:36:56,797 -No? -Nmm-nmm. 43 00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:02,845 Would there be any reason 44 00:37:03,346 --> 00:37:07,683 for your DNA to be at the scene? 45 00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:12,897 Not that… 46 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:14,607 No, there shouldn't be. 47 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:15,900 -Shouldn't be? -Yeah. 48 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,401 We're here. 49 00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:19,320 We know you can help us. 50 00:37:20,112 --> 00:37:23,282 Because your DNA was at the scene. 51 00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:26,202 I don't know… I can't see how. 52 00:37:26,285 --> 00:37:28,329 I don't even know that girl. 53 00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:50,810 So, 100%, you're not gonna have any issues with your DNA there? 54 00:37:52,061 --> 00:37:53,646 -No. -And so then… 55 00:37:53,729 --> 00:37:57,149 you'd be willing to give us a sample of your oral swabs? 56 00:37:57,233 --> 00:37:58,234 Okay. 57 00:37:58,317 --> 00:37:59,986 And so I appreciate that. 58 00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:29,033 When I met the guy, I wasn't hitchhiking. I was just walking. 59 00:39:29,116 --> 00:39:31,285 He pulled up in his car and asked me if I wanted a ride. 60 00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:32,953 And I said yeah. 61 00:39:38,167 --> 00:39:42,797 How sure are you that this man forced you… raped you? 62 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,507 100%. 63 00:39:44,590 --> 00:39:47,468 I stopped resisting because he started threatening to kill me. 64 00:41:26,775 --> 00:41:30,112 Hi, I wanted to talk… I need to talk to Robert, please. 65 00:41:30,696 --> 00:41:32,323 - Who are you? -My name is Ralph. 66 00:41:32,406 --> 00:41:33,491 He knows who I am. 67 00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:34,992 And this is John. 68 00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:43,709 Come on in. 69 00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:46,170 Thank you. 70 00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:48,839 You look like you're gonna arrest him. 71 00:41:48,923 --> 00:41:50,883 - God, no. - Okay. 72 00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:54,887 No, we're gonna leave here. I just was hoping for ten minutes. 73 00:41:54,970 --> 00:41:57,806 And maybe just a little bit of privacy if that's okay with you. 74 00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:00,518 Why? He ain't got nothing to hide from me. 75 00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:02,603 I don't have nothing to hide. 76 00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:05,147 We tell each other everything. 77 00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:10,277 We wanted to give him the respect of being able to talk to him 78 00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:12,988 without other people here if that's what he wanted. 79 00:42:13,072 --> 00:42:15,574 -But if this is how-- -No, she can be here. 80 00:42:45,354 --> 00:42:47,606 - Hear me out. -I had nothing to do with that case. 81 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:49,066 Robert, just hear me out. 82 00:43:02,037 --> 00:43:04,873 And I'm gonna stay with that story. I do not know her. 83 00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:07,001 I've never seen her. I never met her. 84 00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:13,799 - You said you never met this girl. -No! 85 00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:15,968 So what do you think of yours… 86 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,054 What kind of DNA do you think we found? 87 00:43:22,891 --> 00:43:24,643 Probably my sperm. 88 00:43:25,144 --> 00:43:28,814 Yeah. So can you tell me how that could possibly be, Robert? 89 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,901 It shouldn't be, because I don't even know her. 90 00:43:32,985 --> 00:43:34,612 I never met her. I never seen her. 91 00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:36,572 - Robert-- -I had nothing to do with that. 92 00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:41,619 We've got your semen on the pubic hair of this dead woman. 93 00:43:41,702 --> 00:43:46,290 This dead woman was picked up near the same place 94 00:43:46,373 --> 00:43:50,419 where, within a year of that time, you picked up Lori ****. 95 00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:55,215 This woman had her head bashed. 96 00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:07,895 Would you agree that if your semen is inside of her, 97 00:44:07,978 --> 00:44:11,732 that means that you must have known her 98 00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:13,817 and had sex with her 99 00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,570 that night at the beach? 100 00:44:17,321 --> 00:44:18,781 Yeah, that would be logical. 101 00:44:21,950 --> 00:44:24,203 If you were sitting where I was sitting right now, 102 00:44:24,286 --> 00:44:26,080 would you believe what you're saying? 103 00:44:27,581 --> 00:44:29,583 -You tell me. - I'd believe him. 104 00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:31,210 Ma'am, I'm not asking you. 105 00:44:31,293 --> 00:44:34,755 If you were sitting where I'm sitting, would you believe that story? You tell me. 106 00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:37,132 No, I wouldn't believe that story. 107 00:44:37,216 --> 00:44:39,551 I don't think 12 jurors are gonna believe it either. 108 00:44:49,269 --> 00:44:52,731 I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna go back to prison for something I didn't do. 109 00:44:52,815 --> 00:44:54,441 Okay, so, listen. 110 00:44:54,525 --> 00:44:55,526 Your DNA-- 111 00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:59,363 I know what you're saying. My DNA is on her, but I don't know how. 112 00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:01,448 Are we done? This is starting to piss me off. 113 00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:03,992 I wanna get a lawyer. We're gonna get a lawyer. 114 00:45:04,076 --> 00:45:06,537 - Wait. Listen. -Are we finished? 115 00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:09,248 -We're finished. We're done. - Robert-- No, listen to me. 116 00:45:09,331 --> 00:45:10,666 There's nothing more to say. 117 00:45:10,749 --> 00:45:13,293 If you tell me that you want us to leave, we'll leave. 118 00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:14,253 Yeah. 119 00:45:14,336 --> 00:45:15,754 Ma'am, I'm talking to him. 120 00:45:15,838 --> 00:45:17,506 -I want you to leave. - Okay. 121 00:45:18,298 --> 00:45:20,259 All right. That's your option. 122 00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:47,364 -Ronnie. -Thank you.