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March 4th, 1980.
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Um, I had just... was finishing
a graveyard shift working patrol.
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My partner and I, we're about to get off,
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and we got a call of a possible body
down at RAT Beach.
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It was a beach
accessible through Malaga Cove.
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You get the call
of a possible body on the beach,
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right away you start thinking,
"We have a drunk."
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"Somebody that stumbled and fell.
Might have an injured person."
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I wasn't prepared for what we found.
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This was
an unsolved homicide case,
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a complete whodunit,
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complete mystery with zero witnesses.
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Thirty-three years later,
I was assigned the case.
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You have to wonder
what the person who did it has been up to
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for the last 33 years.
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And you don't know
what else they've gotten away with.
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The LA County
Sheriff's Department
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is the best of the best.
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Some of the highest-profile
cases are tried in Los Angeles.
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You have to be dedicated 110%.
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This is murder.
There's no more serious crime.
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It boils down to a passion
and a sense of duty.
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Justice comes from finding the truth.
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In 2013,
I went to my team lieutenant.
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{\an8}I said,
"I would like to catch some cases."
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{\an8}So he had on his desk,
sitting there, a case from 1980.
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I was hooked just reading through
the reports on this case.
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Anytime a female's victimized,
I think of my daughters.
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I start reading through the reports,
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thinking, "This is gonna take me
to a lot of different places."
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'Cause I gotta find all these people
in the original reports.
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And I find David Byington,
the first responder.
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We talk on the phone.
What a great memory he had of this case.
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He remembered this case because,
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back in 1980,
he was a rookie on the department.
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{\an8}In 1980, I'm a police officer
for the City of Palos Verdes Estates.
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Palos Verdes Estates
is a little suburb south of Los Angeles.
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Beautiful cliffs, mansions.
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High-income folks live there,
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and most houses there
go well into the multi-millions,
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even back in the '70s.
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As far as murders in Palos Verdes Estates,
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they were rare if ever.
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At the time, I was 21 years of age.
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I had been actually on my own
for only a month or two in patrol.
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When I responded to the scene and realized
that we actually had a potential homicide,
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I started shaking.
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There was a female found dead on the beach
at Palos Verdes Estates on Malaga Cove,
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and she apparently
had been sexually assaulted,
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and she had been beaten about the head.
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A surfer had found her purse,
which had her identification in it.
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{\an8}We were able to learn right away
she was Teresa Broudreaux from Wilmington,
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just 12 miles away,
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and she was only 20 years old.
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We tried to check for signs of life,
and I remember I had initially tried.
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The body was warm to the touch,
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but I could not tell
if I was getting a pulse
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or if I was feeling my own pulse.
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I think part of that was nerves.
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I could see that the young lady
was completely nude
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except for a pair of knee-high socks.
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She appeared to be posed in some position
where her feet were facing the ocean.
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She had a large amount of blood
covering her face.
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Her hair was matted down in the blood.
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It was difficult to see her face
completely without moving the hair.
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She had what appeared to be
a laceration on her forehead
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as well as some bruising
and fresh injuries on her abdomen.
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Ultimately, the beach is a crime scene.
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The tide was coming in so quickly
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we had to pick her up physically
and move her away.
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As we did this,
my partner was trying to support her head.
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As we moved up the beach,
my partner told me,
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"Oh no, my hand
just disappeared in her head."
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She's got a large wound
to the back of her head.
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We knew that this was not an accident.
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Ms. Broudreaux
was my first homicide victim.
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It's the ultimate crime,
the taking of another human life.
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The last thing you want to do
is mess that up.
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The Palos Verdes Estates
Police Department's a smaller agency.
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The sheer magnitude of this crime
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mandated that we would reach out
to an agency
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that could adequately handle
a murder investigation,
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and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department,
they were known to be the best.
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When the Los Angeles sheriff's
homicide unit showed up,
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I was taking note of everything they did.
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Any prosecutor will tell you
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our job isn't just to convict people.
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It's also to make sure
that the procedure that you go through
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to investigate a case is done correctly.
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You're left having to turn to...
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surveillance cameras,
or witnesses, or scientific evidence.
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And in 1980, you didn't have anywhere near
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as much of... or as many of those things
as you do now.
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The victim had no clothing
recovered anywhere in the scene.
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We found a bottle of alcohol
and a couple glasses.
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One of 'em still had,
it appeared, some alcohol in it,
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near where this purse
had been apparently dumped.
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That would lead me to believe at that time
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that there was obviously
someone else there
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that was drinking
with the victim prior to the murder.
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We also saw there were tire tracks.
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They believed that this was
tire tracks from the suspect's vehicle.
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But the tire was somewhat balding.
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The tread depth was not deep enough.
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So they couldn't cast the tracks.
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The LA County sheriff's
homicide detectives
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immediately hit the ground running,
trying to contact family members,
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people closest to your victim,
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and find out anything that could lead you
to a potential suspect,
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that you could start following
those leads.
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And they determined she was married
to a gentleman named Ronnie Fematt.
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When I met Teresa,
she was maybe 18, 19. I was about 20.
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Me and my friend were on the east side
of Wilmington, just hanging out, whatever.
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{\an8}And one of the girls brought Teresa.
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{\an8}And when I saw her, I just went, "Whoa."
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She was very independent,
very strong-willed.
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I don't know what she saw in me.
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Me and my friends, we started doing drugs.
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You know, dabbling in it.
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But when me and Terri got together,
she gave me an ultimatum.
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Said, "Hey, buddy, you gotta stop."
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I...It was a no-brainer.
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Two and a half years we're together,
and then I thought,
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"This is the girl I want to marry."
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I wanted her. I wanted to have a family.
I wanted to settle down.
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So I did. I married her.
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Then she got pregnant shortly after.
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They said, "It's gonna be a girl."
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So I was elated.
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The manner in which Teresa was killed
was extremely upsetting.
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It was a violent death
with her head bashed in,
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and likely sexually assaulted.
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And to then find out
that she was several months pregnant,
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there was yet another life
that was also derailed and ended,
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is incredibly sad.
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On top of that tragedy,
she actually already was a mom.
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She had a four-year-old daughter
named Linda.
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March 4th, 1980
was one of the worst days of my life.
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My grandmother told me
my mother drowned at the beach.
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And that she was going to Heaven
with the angels.
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And she wasn't gonna come back.
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I became too much to handle.
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I didn't want to be with my... my aunt.
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I didn't want to be with my grandmother.
I didn't wanna be with my dad.
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I just wanted my mom.
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And I couldn't understand
why she couldn't come back.
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It felt like the only person
that ever loved and protected me was gone.
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And now there was nobody left to love me.
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When I first met Linda,
she was probably two years old.
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She was still baby talk, you know?
She wasn't too vocal.
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Cute as a bug, you know? She really was.
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Being that she wasn't mine,
it didn't bother me.
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Didn't bother me one bit.
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We used to play "cafe."
She would take my order,
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then go to the kitchen,
act like she made me food.
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She was a good kid.
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I just used to love it.
I used to make the menu with Ronnie.
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Then I used to take it to my mom.
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She was like,
"How many do you want, ma'am?"
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And I would be like, "Two, please."
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And she'll just be making
my little grilled cheese by candlelight.
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I don't know why... I don't know why
it was candlelight, but yeah.
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Ronnie married this woman,
allegedly loved her,
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was raising her... her daughter as his own.
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{\an8}But that doesn't exclude him
from being a suspect.
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He could have snapped,
had a bad moment, bad week. Who knows?
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Ronnie was one of the first people
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the sheriff's homicide detectives
spoke to.
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The sheriffs,
they interrogated me,
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and I answered everything.
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On March 3rd,
I was attending Harbor College.
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Not taking anything special.
I was doing art. I was good with art.
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I came home. I said to my wife,
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"Come on.
Let's go to my friend George's house."
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We used to hang out in the garage,
drink and smoke.
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We went.
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She didn't participate.
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She was pregnant.
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She didn't want to stand up all night
in a garage.
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So I understand she wanted to go home.
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We went home.
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I told her, "I'mma go back."
She goes, "I don't want you to go back."
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"You can't go back."
I go, "I'mma go back."
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"No, you better not go."
I go, "Terri, I'm going back."
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That's when I went out the door.
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I went this way toward my friend's house.
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I heard the door slam and I turned back.
She was going toward the alley.
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We had a gate in the alley
that would take you to the other street.
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That's where her sister lived,
down the block.
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I go, "She's mad."
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"She'll go to her sister's,
and complain, and talk shit about me."
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"She'll be okay."
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But then...
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I never seen her again.
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{\an8}How many times does a wife disappear
and the husband says, you know,
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"She left.
I don't know what happened to her."
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And nine times out of ten,
that's bullshit.
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It's gonna be the husband.
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They asked to take my shirt off.
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They're looking for scratches
or defensive wounds, and I had nothing.
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They kept asking, "You didn't do it?"
"No, I didn't do it."
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When they interviewed Ronnie,
he was concerned, he was nervous.
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When your wife is found murdered...
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either you're gonna be devastated,
in shock, et cetera,
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or terrified they're gonna figure out
you're the one who did it.
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After I left the sheriff's,
I went back to my house,
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and there's cop cars
stationed around the block.
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They're looking at my house.
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Very quickly, he became concerned
that he was the suspect,
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and he was.
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I called my uncle, Henry Salcido,
criminal lawyer.
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And my uncle just told me,
"Don't talk to 'em, avoid 'em."
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So that's what I did.
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My father was absent,
so when my mom got married to Ronnie
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and I found out
I was gonna have a sibling,
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I immediately thought we were gonna have
a full and complete family now
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with Ronnie, the new baby, my mom, and I.
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So I was super excited.
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So excited.
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But when everything happened
with my mother,
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I did not stay with Ronnie.
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My dad's family
came and got me right away.
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I really missed her when they took her.
It destroyed me.
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During the autopsy,
essentially, a rape kit was taken.
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{\an8}But a rape kit back in 1980
is nothing like it is today.
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There were clippings
taken from her fingernails,
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because it appeared that there was
material underneath her fingernails,
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and they could potentially compare that
to blood type.
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There was also swabs that were taken,
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which we're not testing for DNA,
but could test for the presence of sperm.
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They brought her to the mortuary.
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{\an8}I went back there and asked to see her,
'cause I had to make arrangements.
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They pulled back the thing.
They only got the sheet halfway,
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and I already just... My knees buckled.
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I just couldn't believe what I saw.
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As far as her features, there was none.
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It was just total darkness,
a big hole for a face.
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And right away, I told the people,
"I want this casket closed."
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"And I want the baby swaddled
and put in her arms,
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so they're together for eternity."
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{\an8}The investigators spoke
with a lot of friends, a lot of family,
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and that's really all they had to go on.
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They learned that the last person
to see Teresa was her sister.
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She gets to her sister's house.
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Her sister wanted her to stay there,
and she didn't.
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Teresa Broudreaux left her sister's house
middle of the night
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and started walking down the street.
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There was a cousin who remembers that,
that day of, before she was found dead,
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she wanted to go to the beach.
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Neither Teresa nor Ronnie had a car.
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It wouldn't be unreasonable
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that she would hitchhike
to go get to the beach.
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They were really
at the mercy of anybody seeing anything,
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and it happened at night,
and she was discovered early morning,
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and so there were no witnesses
that ever came forward.
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There wasn't a whole lot
of investigative tools
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that could be used
to figure out who her killer was.
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They were looking at Ronnie,
Teresa Broudreaux's husband,
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as a potential suspect.
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After a thorough investigation,
they were able to determine
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that Ronnie had an alibi.
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Ronnie had been in a friend's garage
with several eyewitnesses
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on the night his wife had been murdered.
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And that basically cleared him
from the murder of his wife.
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And even though the police investigators
might exclude Ronnie,
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you can't unring that bell
with family members and loved ones,
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that thought and belief
that he was responsible
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for their daughter,
their mother, their sister's death.
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{\an8}When I was about eight or nine years old,
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{\an8}my cousin and I were going through
her mother's boxes, her drawers,
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and we found the autopsy of my mother.
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And I'm like,
"What? They said she drowned!"
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And I'm still, you know, in that mode
where they said she drowned.
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I'm like, "All this happened to her?"
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Everyone in her family was saying
Ronnie's the one that killed my mother.
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I believed it right away
because they used to fight a lot,
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and I was there to see all of that.
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I was right there watching
every single day.
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They made their choice
that I wasn't a suspect, sheriffs did.
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But they had nobody else,
so everybody thought I did it.
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Couldn't explain
how many times I got shot at
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'cause people thought I did it.
283
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Whether it be her family or friends,
I don't know.
284
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Nobody ever shot at me before
until after her death.
285
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I was so traumatized,
I didn't want to live.
286
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If your wife disappears
in the middle of an argument,
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{\an8}and we don't have any evidence
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pointing to somebody else who did it,
289
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and what you have is
an alibi by people that you are close to,
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either that's a legitimate alibi
or it's not,
291
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but you have no other suspects.
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We didn't have an eyewitness.
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We didn't really have any... any evidence
at the time that could be used.
294
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There wasn't anything else they could do.
295
00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:03,869
Ultimately, the Teresa Broudreaux
murder was never solved.
296
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It was put on the back bench
as a cold case for decades.
297
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When I was little,
I used to cry for my mom.
298
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And I'd ask questions over the years.
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There was so many questions I had
that no one was willing to answer.
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No one wanted to talk about her.
301
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No one wanted to talk about what happened.
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No one told me anything.
303
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They would tell me to be quiet.
"She's not gonna come back."
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I kinda got used to
not having any parents.
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The void from my mother
has never been filled.
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I don't think it'll ever be filled.
307
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I went through years
of people pointing,
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and avoiding me,
or talking behind my back.
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I didn't deal with it.
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I didn't think about my daughter.
I didn't think about Terri.
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I'd work just to get high,
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so I didn't have to deal with
all the pressure
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of people walking around town going,
"Hey, that's him. He killed his wife."
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As I got older,
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I used to see him sometimes
walking around.
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I did not want to talk to Ronnie.
I didn't know what to feel, you know?
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I was like, "Did he really..."
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"Could he have really..."
319
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I started questioning people,
'cause they were the ones telling me.
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I seen them fighting a lot,
but could he really kill her?
321
00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:58,400
When I got the case,
the cultural background,
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there was a connection there.
323
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In the '80s, culture in Wilmington
was very much the same
324
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as culture in East LA,
the area I grew up in.
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It was predominately Hispanic,
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lowrider culture, gangs, crime.
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Seeing sometimes
how my parents were afraid...
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They were afraid to call the police.
329
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1980, I'm 13 years old.
I'm in the eighth grade.
330
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If you would've told me
I was gonna get involved
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in a homicide investigation
that happened in Palos Verdes Estates,
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which was a world away from East LA,
I would've told you you were nuts.
333
00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:42,069
I never was a kid who said,
"I want to be a cop."
334
00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:46,031
That was the last thing I thought I'd be.
335
00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:51,328
The passion really came
once I started the job
336
00:22:51,328 --> 00:22:56,124
and started to notice
the difference that you could make.
337
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{\an8}Ralph's was more of a subdued,
subtle kind of approach.
338
00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:05,425
He challenged himself
and made a name for himself.
339
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,763
Ralph never wanted to promote.
He wanted to be a damn good detective.
340
00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:16,228
People always ask me,
"What is this job like, working homicide?"
341
00:23:17,145 --> 00:23:19,231
It's like juggling balls in the ocean.
342
00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:22,150
You don't want to drown,
but you don't want to drop the ball.
343
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When you look at a cold case,
344
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there are so many different things
that you have to... to overcome.
345
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Investigations change
after ten, 15, 20 years.
346
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Different techniques evolve.
Different thought processes evolve.
347
00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:45,590
Ultimately, you have to do
a little gumshoe detective work, right?
348
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You gotta go and find people,
find witnesses.
349
00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:52,848
But technology is a tremendous,
tremendous asset for us now
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on these unsolved cases.
351
00:23:54,975 --> 00:24:00,439
In this case, in 1980,
that was years before DNA.
352
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:05,360
There's different investigative avenues
that can be explored.
353
00:24:05,861 --> 00:24:08,780
Now we can go back,
and we can take that evidence,
354
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and we can develop DNA profiles.
355
00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:17,706
{\an8}There were several items of evidence
that had been kept from the scene.
356
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We knew that there were enough there
357
00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:24,337
that there were things
we could potentially test.
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00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:29,217
The sheriff's department
had a criminalist who was excellent.
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00:24:29,718 --> 00:24:32,596
As the criminalist
is working on this evidence
360
00:24:32,596 --> 00:24:36,099
and trying to determine
if there's enough genetic material,
361
00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:39,936
what we're realizing
is she has very little to work with.
362
00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:45,650
The fingernails turned out not to be
as helpful as we were hoping they'd be.
363
00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:48,737
The other evidence at the scene
also was not as helpful.
364
00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:52,365
There were no prints or DNA
on the bottle of alcohol.
365
00:24:52,365 --> 00:24:55,076
Only Teresa's fingerprint was on the cup.
366
00:24:55,076 --> 00:24:59,915
And contrary to what you see on CSI,
the TV shows, you know,
367
00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:03,835
unfortunately, people don't sprinkle
their DNA everywhere
368
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:05,837
at whatever crime scene they go to.
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00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:07,255
So we had to pivot.
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00:25:07,255 --> 00:25:10,759
We had to think of a different way
to try to identify her killer.
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00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:13,094
That's when we turn
to the coroner's evidence.
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The coroner's office was able
to obtain the DNA found on the victim.
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The criminalist
took the pubic hair combings
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00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:30,320
and basically washed them.
375
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:35,408
And from that washing,
she's able to put it into a centrifuge
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00:25:35,408 --> 00:25:39,996
that spins
and essentially churns out a pellet.
377
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:44,918
And from that pellet,
she's able to look at it microscopically
378
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:48,588
and determine if there's
any genetic material in the pellet,
379
00:25:48,588 --> 00:25:51,508
and she found one sperm head.
380
00:25:52,425 --> 00:25:56,429
And so that's what she was able
to end up testing for DNA.
381
00:25:57,472 --> 00:26:01,184
The goal there is that they would be able
to develop an actual DNA profile.
382
00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:04,104
'Cause sometimes
you can have bodily fluid,
383
00:26:04,104 --> 00:26:07,524
but that doesn't mean you have enough
to come up with a complete DNA profile.
384
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:10,485
Sometimes you have a partial profile.
Sometimes you get nothing.
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00:26:10,485 --> 00:26:14,614
If there's not sufficient evidence there,
it's a dead end.
386
00:26:24,874 --> 00:26:28,920
Detective Ralph Hernandez
got my case and gave me a call.
387
00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:33,842
{\an8}I felt at ease that he understood me.
388
00:26:34,342 --> 00:26:37,679
{\an8}He knew my style of life,
what I've been through.
389
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,390
You know, the addiction,
the gangs, the everything.
390
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:43,977
'Cause being from East LA,
you're familiar with that stuff.
391
00:26:43,977 --> 00:26:47,772
Being a cop, you're more familiar.
You probably see it more than I see it.
392
00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:51,568
He treated me just like he would anybody.
393
00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:55,030
Wasn't 'cause I was Chicano.
He treated me 'cause I was human.
394
00:26:56,573 --> 00:27:00,785
So I talked to him, and I let him know
I have some more information.
395
00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:06,458
Ronnie tells us the story
396
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:10,211
about how this female acquaintance
from the neighborhood
397
00:27:10,211 --> 00:27:13,632
approached him one evening and said,
"Hey, I feel bad."
398
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:16,551
"I held on to this for a few years.
I want you to know."
399
00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:20,972
In the late '90s,
I was still spiraling out of control,
400
00:27:21,931 --> 00:27:23,141
and I was in a bar.
401
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:27,896
One of my friends walked in
who I hadn't seen in quite a while.
402
00:27:28,521 --> 00:27:29,856
She came up to me.
403
00:27:29,856 --> 00:27:32,942
"Ronnie, I know who killed your wife."
404
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:40,909
People's lives continue on,
405
00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:43,203
and they remember vivid details
406
00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:46,790
{\an8}of what traumatically
happened to them in the past.
407
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,667
They realize, "You know what?"
408
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,544
"This has caught up to me.
I need to tell somebody."
409
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:57,884
When I met Detective Ralph Hernandez,
I had been sober a while.
410
00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:02,263
For so long
I've been feeling so bad about this.
411
00:28:02,263 --> 00:28:05,392
I thought it was time
I could handle some answers.
412
00:28:06,267 --> 00:28:08,812
She was my homeboy's old lady.
413
00:28:08,812 --> 00:28:11,064
She'd been gone so long
I wondered what happened to her.
414
00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:13,358
I didn't know
because I didn't keep tabs on her.
415
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:16,945
We started talking, she started crying,
she goes, "I know who killed her."
416
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:23,076
And then I was just like,
"What do you mean?"
417
00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:29,499
She said, "I was abducted
by two guys and sexually tortured."
418
00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:36,047
These guys picked her up. They told her,
"Put some of this on your tongue."
419
00:28:36,047 --> 00:28:40,468
She said immediately when she put
that liquid on her tongue, she went numb.
420
00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:44,848
She said she could hear and see,
but couldn't move.
421
00:28:44,848 --> 00:28:46,307
She's, like, paralyzed.
422
00:28:47,308 --> 00:28:49,227
They tortured her, sexually abused her,
423
00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:52,939
and then she told me
that she heard 'em say,
424
00:28:53,606 --> 00:28:55,900
"What are we gonna do with her body?"
425
00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:58,653
"We'll take her where we dumped Terri."
426
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:06,244
But she jumped out the window of the car
while it was moving,
427
00:29:07,203 --> 00:29:10,290
and a passerby stopped and helped,
and they took off.
428
00:29:12,375 --> 00:29:14,711
The person she mentioned, I knew him.
429
00:29:15,378 --> 00:29:16,463
Knew him well.
430
00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:20,508
With some of his characteristics, it fit.
431
00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:25,847
It's secondhand information, right?
432
00:29:25,847 --> 00:29:28,224
This girl's told Ronnie.
Ronnie's telling us.
433
00:29:28,224 --> 00:29:30,727
We need to find this girl.
434
00:29:31,311 --> 00:29:34,564
I had some addresses
that were listed in the original reports
435
00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:36,816
of people who lived in the neighborhood.
436
00:29:36,816 --> 00:29:39,194
So I knocked on a few doors.
437
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:42,655
I find out that she's living out of state.
438
00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:46,951
I come up with a phone number
and we start talking.
439
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:49,245
And she was very, uh, very cooperative,
440
00:29:49,245 --> 00:29:50,747
and willing to meet with us,
441
00:29:50,747 --> 00:29:51,831
which is huge.
442
00:29:56,461 --> 00:29:59,255
We fly out to her.
443
00:30:01,049 --> 00:30:03,802
Ralph actually went to Texas
to go talk to her.
444
00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:06,805
That right there
at that moment let me know,
445
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:08,765
"This guy's gonna do whatever it takes."
446
00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:11,392
And I felt really good about this.
447
00:30:11,392 --> 00:30:17,148
I definitely felt that, after 33 years,
I finally had somebody in my corner.
448
00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:23,738
We had just flown in,
and I get a phone call from the crime lab.
449
00:30:24,239 --> 00:30:25,615
The crime lab's telling me,
450
00:30:25,615 --> 00:30:29,911
{\an8}"We got a hit in CODIS for your evidence
for DNA from your scene."
451
00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:33,081
That was incredible.
452
00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:36,209
But it was a little confusing
453
00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:39,546
because it wasn't the person
that we thought
454
00:30:40,046 --> 00:30:41,923
that we were being steered toward
455
00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,009
from the information
we were going to get from our informant.
456
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,971
It was a completely different person.
457
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:52,934
Thanks to the criminalist,
we now had a name.
458
00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:56,312
It came back as a match
to a man named Robert Yniguez.
459
00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,775
Who was Robert Yniguez?
Where'd he come from?
460
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,612
What did he do? Where was he?
Where was he 34 years ago?
461
00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:15,164
Robert Yniguez
was nowhere in the file.
462
00:31:15,164 --> 00:31:17,709
{\an8}He was nobody who had been interviewed.
463
00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:20,211
He was no one
whose name had even been mentioned.
464
00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:23,298
There were a ton of names
in those original reports.
465
00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:24,841
His was not one of them.
466
00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,886
But it was very exciting.
467
00:31:30,221 --> 00:31:34,100
So we get back from our out-of-state trip
and interview with the informant,
468
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,936
which turned out to be a dead end.
469
00:31:36,936 --> 00:31:39,272
We quickly begin to conduct
470
00:31:39,272 --> 00:31:41,691
a background investigation
on Robert Yniguez,
471
00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:45,403
and I also pulled crime reports
from his previous arrests.
472
00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:49,824
And in 1981,
Robert Yniguez was arrested for rape.
473
00:31:52,785 --> 00:31:57,248
The victim in that case
had been a hitchhiker that he picked up,
474
00:31:57,248 --> 00:31:59,626
and he proceeded to rape her.
475
00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:01,628
That victim reports it.
476
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:04,297
He gets arrested
immediately after that rape.
477
00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:06,466
He was charged in court.
478
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,593
He was held to answer
on preliminary hearing.
479
00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:10,803
The victim actually came to testify.
480
00:32:10,803 --> 00:32:13,097
And some time before the trial,
481
00:32:13,598 --> 00:32:16,267
it became difficult to find the victim,
482
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:19,228
and the case was dismissed,
and he was let go.
483
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,899
Then fast-forward to 1982.
484
00:32:24,233 --> 00:32:26,569
He was arrested for another rape
485
00:32:26,569 --> 00:32:29,530
in which he was actually convicted,
and he went to prison.
486
00:32:29,530 --> 00:32:34,494
And that conviction is what actually
brought his DNA into the CODIS database.
487
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:40,291
Because the CODIS hit
is only an investigative tool and lead,
488
00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:44,170
we're ethically required to get
what's called a "confirmatory sample."
489
00:32:45,213 --> 00:32:49,384
We needed to try to get a DNA sample
from him in order to confirm
490
00:32:49,384 --> 00:32:52,971
and run it against the evidence
found from the coroner's kit.
491
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:56,516
So our next step
had to be locating Mr. Yniguez.
492
00:32:58,434 --> 00:33:03,231
Detective Ralph Hernandez asked
if I knew who this Robert Yniguez guy was.
493
00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:07,276
And I said no, but I was very hopeful.
494
00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:10,238
The DNA always catches the bad guy.
495
00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:12,281
And now there was DNA.
496
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:15,159
Now they just had to find the guy.
497
00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:18,454
Sex offenders are required
to register on their birthday.
498
00:33:18,454 --> 00:33:22,125
With Mr. Yniguez,
his birthday was about four months away
499
00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:26,004
from when Detective Hernandez
learned he was a potential suspect.
500
00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:30,591
So the easiest place to find Mr. Yniguez
501
00:33:30,591 --> 00:33:33,428
was going to be when he went to register.
502
00:33:42,228 --> 00:33:46,733
Yniguez is at Harbor Station getting ready
to register as a sex offender.
503
00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:51,988
At that point,
I want to find out more about him.
504
00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:53,948
We wanted to confirm where he lived,
505
00:33:53,948 --> 00:33:56,909
where he'd been,
who his family was, who his friends were,
506
00:33:56,909 --> 00:34:00,079
because maybe there is
some connection to Teresa.
507
00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:04,250
Also, I want to obtain
a sample of his DNA.
508
00:34:05,084 --> 00:34:08,046
And so I told him who we were,
where we were from,
509
00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,423
and he was willing to talk to us.
510
00:34:10,423 --> 00:34:13,634
- You went to prison in '80 or was it--
- I think it was '80.
511
00:34:14,343 --> 00:34:16,345
Before prison,
where were you living?
512
00:34:20,308 --> 00:34:21,142
Hmm.
513
00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:26,522
I believe
I was living in Wilmington at my...
514
00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:30,526
my stepmom's house with my dad.
515
00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:33,613
I didn't know
too many people from Wilmington.
516
00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:34,697
I mean...
517
00:34:34,697 --> 00:34:37,116
I would cruise around there, but...
518
00:34:37,116 --> 00:34:39,577
I didn't really know anybody over there.
519
00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:43,831
I actually didn't really have
a big game plan.
520
00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:48,628
My first thought was just, "Be yourself.
Talk to him, put him at ease."
521
00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:52,799
And it just kind of evolved from there.
522
00:34:53,382 --> 00:34:55,927
- Did you ever go partying at the beach?
- No.
523
00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:58,513
- Never used to go out there?
- No.
524
00:34:58,513 --> 00:35:02,225
And you've never been to Malaga Cove,
Palos Verdes Estates?
525
00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:04,352
Mm-mm.
526
00:35:05,436 --> 00:35:09,899
{\an8}Ralph's approach was to be very...
527
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:12,610
{\an8}non-confrontational.
528
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:17,031
So he tries to get
Yniguez to be comfortable,
529
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:22,036
and then he tries to go through
the information that he has
530
00:35:22,036 --> 00:35:27,166
and to see if he can lock him in
to a certain story.
531
00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:29,585
Tell me about that case
when you got arrested.
532
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,547
Took her to Redondo.
533
00:35:33,381 --> 00:35:35,716
- And, you know, we had sex.
- Mm-hmm.
534
00:35:35,716 --> 00:35:38,094
Yeah, she refused, but then...
535
00:35:38,594 --> 00:35:41,139
after that she gave in, and...
536
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,891
- And they charged you with rape.
- Yeah.
537
00:35:43,891 --> 00:35:46,102
You got off
because she didn't show up.
538
00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,395
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
539
00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,856
Does Teresa ring a bell to you?
540
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:54,360
- No.
- No? Nothing at all?
541
00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:56,988
I could see it in his chest.
542
00:35:57,572 --> 00:36:00,449
Kind of the heavy breathing
people describe.
543
00:36:00,449 --> 00:36:02,702
They see people pounding their heart rate,
544
00:36:02,702 --> 00:36:04,996
or their heart's
beating through their shirt.
545
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:10,084
You could see the deep breaths,
and he was obviously nervous.
546
00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:13,880
Let me show you some pictures.
547
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,964
Okay.
548
00:36:18,718 --> 00:36:21,888
Do you know that girl right there
or remember her at all?
549
00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:23,139
- No.
- No?
550
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:24,223
Mm-mm.
551
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:28,436
This lady was found dead on the beach.
552
00:36:28,436 --> 00:36:31,564
You sure she's nobody
that looks familiar to you?
553
00:36:31,564 --> 00:36:33,357
Teresa Broudreaux.
554
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:36,944
- No.
- And this is 1980, March of 1980.
555
00:36:38,112 --> 00:36:39,113
No, not at all.
556
00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:44,160
The denials were so important
because we had such powerful DNA evidence.
557
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,037
If he came to us and said,
558
00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:49,290
"I... I dated Teresa
behind her husband's back,"
559
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,292
"I had sex with her that night,"
560
00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:54,128
it would have complicated our case.
561
00:36:54,128 --> 00:36:55,463
No. Mm-mm.
562
00:36:55,463 --> 00:36:56,797
- No?
- Mm-mm.
563
00:36:56,797 --> 00:37:00,468
That's why the denial
was so much more powerful.
564
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:07,683
Would there be any reason
for your DNA to be at the scene?
565
00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:12,897
Not that...
566
00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:14,607
No, there shouldn't be.
567
00:37:14,607 --> 00:37:15,900
- Shouldn't be?
- Yeah.
568
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,401
We're here.
569
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:19,320
We know you can help us.
570
00:37:20,112 --> 00:37:23,282
Because your DNA was at the scene.
571
00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:26,202
I don't know... I can't see how.
572
00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:28,371
I don't even know that girl.
573
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:30,915
If you want
good rapport with your suspect,
574
00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:32,333
you gotta give 'em something.
575
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,711
I had information for him,
and he needed to know that information,
576
00:37:35,711 --> 00:37:39,799
and it might stimulate something
for him to say something
577
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:42,093
to help us get to the truth, right?
578
00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:44,887
Because what if
he had a plausible explanation?
579
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:46,931
What if he didn't do it, right?
580
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:50,810
So, 100%, you're not gonna
have any issues with your DNA there?
581
00:37:52,061 --> 00:37:53,646
- No.
- And so then...
582
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:57,149
you'd be willing to give us
a sample of your oral swabs?
583
00:37:57,149 --> 00:37:58,234
Okay.
584
00:37:58,234 --> 00:37:59,986
And so I appreciate that.
585
00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:04,240
I came away
from that interview with Yniguez
586
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,659
firmly believing that we had our guy,
587
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,122
but it was more important to build a case
and to know for sure,
588
00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:14,208
"Okay, this is our guy,"
and then go out and arrest him.
589
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:18,963
Getting a buccal swab of DNA
from Mr. Yniguez
590
00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:22,800
allowed the sheriff's department
to do confirmatory testing.
591
00:38:26,345 --> 00:38:28,014
He was in fact a match,
592
00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:30,808
and the match
was proven through a statistic,
593
00:38:30,808 --> 00:38:34,895
which was one in 82.5 trillion,
594
00:38:34,895 --> 00:38:38,733
and there's only
seven billion people on the planet.
595
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:44,322
So to be one in 80-something trillion
596
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,615
is quite a significant match.
597
00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:54,415
In this case,
it's very clear that he's your killer.
598
00:38:54,915 --> 00:38:56,459
So now it's a question of,
599
00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:59,420
"What can you do
to make the case even better?"
600
00:39:00,796 --> 00:39:04,050
The rape case in 1981
was extremely important
601
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:07,428
because Yniguez came upon a female
602
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:12,141
who was in Wilmington at the bus stop
and offered her a ride.
603
00:39:12,141 --> 00:39:15,770
We had the fact
that Teresa was last seen in Wilmington,
604
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:19,023
and there are
potential similarities in the MO,
605
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,901
and, luckily,
I was able to locate and interview
606
00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:23,778
the victim from the 1981 rape.
607
00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:29,033
When I met the guy,
I wasn't hitchhiking. I was just walking.
608
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:32,328
He pulled up in his car and asked me
if I wanted a ride, and I said yeah.
609
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,372
The circumstances she's telling us
610
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:38,084
is similar to what we believe
happened to Teresa.
611
00:39:38,084 --> 00:39:42,797
How sure are you that
this man forced you... raped you?
612
00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:44,131
100%.
613
00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:47,551
I stopped resisting
because he started threatening to kill me.
614
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:53,766
She was threatened. She gave in.
615
00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:57,186
Teresa was beaten and killed.
616
00:40:00,523 --> 00:40:02,441
I believe Teresa fought back,
617
00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:05,569
and Yniguez followed through
with his threat.
618
00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:08,989
So that was extremely powerful,
619
00:40:08,989 --> 00:40:14,703
and just tied our case
that much more together.
620
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,085
Whenever I am looking
at a cold case,
621
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:26,340
I always want to sit down
with the suspect if I can.
622
00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:31,595
I want to myself evaluate them.
623
00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:34,390
I want to see
how they respond to my questioning.
624
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:38,185
I want to see if they're gonna end up
making things worse.
625
00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:41,939
What are they going to admit to?
Where are my issues gonna be?
626
00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:46,152
It's the only chance that I will ever have
to have a conversation with them.
627
00:40:46,152 --> 00:40:49,822
Once the case is filed,
I can't talk to them.
628
00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:56,579
Robert Yniguez told Ralph Hernandez
that he had never met the victim,
629
00:40:56,579 --> 00:40:58,122
he never had sex with her,
630
00:40:58,122 --> 00:41:02,751
that he'd never been
to Palos Verdes Estates,
631
00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:04,336
and Malaga Cove, and that beach.
632
00:41:04,336 --> 00:41:08,174
The more adamant
he was gonna be in denying it,
633
00:41:08,174 --> 00:41:11,844
the better it was gonna be
for the case going forward,
634
00:41:11,844 --> 00:41:14,763
because I could prove
that that just wasn't true.
635
00:41:14,763 --> 00:41:19,393
John wanted to come with me
to interview Robert Yniguez again.
636
00:41:20,311 --> 00:41:22,438
So we both went and talked to him.
637
00:41:26,775 --> 00:41:30,112
Hi, I wanted to talk...
I need to talk to Robert, please.
638
00:41:30,696 --> 00:41:32,323
Who are you?
- My name's Ralph.
639
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:33,491
He knows who I am.
640
00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:34,992
And this is John.
641
00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:37,578
That second interview was not ideal.
642
00:41:37,578 --> 00:41:40,998
Part of it was his wife
and his daughter were there.
643
00:41:40,998 --> 00:41:42,208
His family's there.
644
00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:43,709
Come on in.
645
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:46,670
Thank you.
646
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:48,839
You guys look like
you're gonna arrest him.
647
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:50,883
God, no. We're gonna...
- Okay.
648
00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:54,887
No, we're gonna leave here.
I just was hoping for ten minutes.
649
00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:57,806
And maybe just a little bit of privacy
if that's okay with you.
650
00:41:57,806 --> 00:42:00,518
Why?
He ain't got nothing to hide from me.
651
00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,811
I don't have nothing to hide.
- Nothing.
652
00:42:02,811 --> 00:42:05,147
We tell each other everything.
653
00:42:05,147 --> 00:42:10,277
We wanted to give him the respect
of being able to talk to him
654
00:42:10,277 --> 00:42:12,988
without other people here
if that's what he wanted.
655
00:42:12,988 --> 00:42:15,574
- But if this is how--
- No, she can be here.
656
00:42:15,574 --> 00:42:21,372
It was highly unlikely
that he would have told his wife,
657
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:26,794
who was not with him
at the time of the murder,
658
00:42:26,794 --> 00:42:30,506
"By the way, you realize
I raped and murdered people
659
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:32,216
prior to our relationship."
660
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:35,469
So we wanted to do it in private,
661
00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:39,515
and no matter how much we suggested it,
662
00:42:39,515 --> 00:42:43,143
his position was,
"No, we have no secrets," et cetera.
663
00:42:43,143 --> 00:42:45,271
So we had to do the interview
in front of her.
664
00:42:45,271 --> 00:42:47,606
Hear me out.
- I had nothing to do with that case.
665
00:42:47,606 --> 00:42:49,066
Robert, just hear me out.
666
00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:53,779
He doesn't want to admit all of this
in front of them,
667
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:58,409
and when John began to press him
in a bit more detail about the incident,
668
00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:00,119
he starts to deny.
669
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,954
He became very defensive.
670
00:43:01,954 --> 00:43:04,873
And I'm gonna stay with that story.
I do not know her.
671
00:43:04,873 --> 00:43:07,001
I've never seen her. I never met her.
672
00:43:07,001 --> 00:43:10,838
John did, in the interview,
accuse Yniguez of committing the murder.
673
00:43:10,838 --> 00:43:13,799
You said you never met this girl.
- No!
674
00:43:13,799 --> 00:43:15,968
So what do you think of yours...
675
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,054
What kind of DNA do you think we found?
676
00:43:22,891 --> 00:43:24,643
Probably my sperm.
677
00:43:25,144 --> 00:43:28,814
Yeah. So can you tell me
how that could possibly be, Robert?
678
00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,901
It shouldn't be,
because I don't even know her.
679
00:43:32,901 --> 00:43:34,612
I never met her. I never seen her.
680
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:36,572
Robert--
- I had nothing to do with that.
681
00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:41,619
We've got your semen
on the pubic hair of this dead woman.
682
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:46,290
This dead woman
was picked up near the same place
683
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:50,419
where, within a year of that time,
you picked up Lori [bleep].
684
00:43:52,212 --> 00:43:55,215
This woman had her head bashed.
685
00:43:55,716 --> 00:43:58,677
Pressing him just led to more denials,
686
00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:03,098
but John got him to admit
he wouldn't believe his own denials.
687
00:44:03,098 --> 00:44:04,850
So it kind of came back full circle.
688
00:44:40,302 --> 00:44:44,890
He had a look on his face of resignation
689
00:44:45,474 --> 00:44:48,686
that he knew where it was going.
690
00:44:49,269 --> 00:44:52,731
I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna go
back to prison for something I didn't do.
691
00:44:52,731 --> 00:44:54,441
Okay, so, listen.
692
00:44:54,441 --> 00:44:55,526
Your DNA--
693
00:44:55,526 --> 00:44:59,363
I know what you're saying.
My DNA is on her, but I don't know how.
694
00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:01,448
Are we done?
This is starting to piss me off.
695
00:45:01,448 --> 00:45:03,992
Yeah, I'm gonna get a lawyer.
We're gonna get a lawyer.
696
00:45:03,992 --> 00:45:06,537
Wait. Listen.
- Are we finished?
697
00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:09,248
- We're finished. We're done.
Robert-- No, listen to me.
698
00:45:09,248 --> 00:45:10,666
There's nothing more to say.
699
00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:13,335
If you tell me that
you want us to leave, we'll leave.
700
00:45:13,335 --> 00:45:14,253
Yeah.
- Yeah.
701
00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:15,754
Ma'am, I'm talking to him.
702
00:45:15,754 --> 00:45:17,506
- I want you to leave.
Okay.
703
00:45:18,298 --> 00:45:20,259
All right. That's your option.
704
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:23,971
We were confident
at that point that we had enough.
705
00:45:23,971 --> 00:45:27,099
We had the DNA. We had Yniguez's denials.
706
00:45:27,099 --> 00:45:30,185
We have some of his admissions.
We got him.
707
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:44,575
September of 2017,
we finally make our move.
708
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:49,663
We have a surveillance team
follow Yniguez away from his home.
709
00:45:51,081 --> 00:45:53,250
We get a black-and-white to make a stop.
710
00:45:54,168 --> 00:45:57,129
And they place him
under arrest for murder.
711
00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:00,758
He didn't say much,
but it didn't matter at that point.
712
00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:04,344
We had quite a bit of evidence
and quite a bit of information to present.
713
00:46:06,972 --> 00:46:10,392
I still remember walking out
and calling Ronnie.
714
00:46:12,102 --> 00:46:14,855
The phone rings.
It says, "Detective Ralph."
715
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:16,774
I go, "Oh, shit."
716
00:46:17,399 --> 00:46:18,609
"It's too early."
717
00:46:19,902 --> 00:46:23,197
I get nervous,
and my... my feet start tapping.
718
00:46:23,906 --> 00:46:24,907
I answered.
719
00:46:26,325 --> 00:46:28,619
He goes, "Ronnie."
I go, "Ralph, what's up?"
720
00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:31,747
He goes, "Are you sitting down?"
And right then, my heart went boom.
721
00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:33,582
I tell him, "We got him."
722
00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:35,709
"We're charging him."
723
00:46:39,254 --> 00:46:40,380
I just cried.
724
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,467
I sat in my car
and cried and cried, 45 minutes.
725
00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:47,012
It was
a very emotional phone call for us.
726
00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:52,226
I get a phone call saying,
727
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:54,853
"In one hour,
we're gonna do a press conference."
728
00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:57,773
"They found the person
that killed your mother."
729
00:46:58,524 --> 00:47:01,151
And I just started crying.
I couldn't believe it.
730
00:47:01,151 --> 00:47:03,445
They were like,
"We need you in downtown LA now."
731
00:47:05,864 --> 00:47:07,366
I couldn't make it there.
732
00:47:08,575 --> 00:47:12,704
But my stepdad was there, of course.
He was there for everything.
733
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:18,752
The press conference
really was for Ronnie
734
00:47:19,294 --> 00:47:21,880
to be able to tell the story to the press
735
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,091
and let them know
what he had been through.
736
00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:25,175
Detective.
737
00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:26,885
Thank you.
738
00:47:28,428 --> 00:47:31,390
The day of the press conference,
you can see me in the back.
739
00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:33,058
{\an8}I'm sort of edgy.
740
00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:36,770
{\an8}I was sweating, and I was starting to look
like Rudy Giuliani up there.
741
00:47:37,479 --> 00:47:40,899
At this point,
we wanted to introduce Ronnie Fematt,
742
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,070
who was married at that time
to Teresa Broudreaux.
743
00:47:45,988 --> 00:47:47,364
{\an8}- Ronnie.
- Thank you.
744
00:47:51,201 --> 00:47:52,202
Hello.
745
00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:56,832
{\an8}It's been 37 years... longer than 37 years,
746
00:47:56,832 --> 00:47:59,877
{\an8}and I've been waiting a long time
for this day.
747
00:48:00,794 --> 00:48:04,214
{\an8}I want to thank my family
for always believing in me,
748
00:48:04,798 --> 00:48:07,676
{\an8}always being by my side,
and I want to thank these people here.
749
00:48:08,552 --> 00:48:11,221
{\an8}'Cause without them,
I wouldn't be here today.
750
00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:14,224
{\an8}It's been a long time
for what I've been through.
751
00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:18,812
{\an8}And the noncertainty of not knowing
why or how, you know?
752
00:48:19,771 --> 00:48:20,772
{\an8}And, uh...
753
00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:23,817
{\an8}I'm just glad this day came.
754
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:25,903
{\an8}Thank you very much.
755
00:48:26,486 --> 00:48:28,822
Now everybody knows it wasn't me.
756
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:31,033
They took the burden off me.
757
00:48:32,618 --> 00:48:34,494
Now people knew the truth.
758
00:48:37,581 --> 00:48:42,044
It was important for me
for Ronnie to have that.
759
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:48,759
Once they told me it wasn't him,
this other guy did it,
760
00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:50,218
I was like, "Oh, my goodness."
761
00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:56,058
We did try to build a relationship.
762
00:48:57,142 --> 00:48:57,976
But...
763
00:48:59,061 --> 00:49:01,146
Yeah, things don't always work out.
764
00:49:10,238 --> 00:49:12,658
On October 2nd, 2017,
765
00:49:12,658 --> 00:49:16,495
I filed the complaint
against Robert Yniguez.
766
00:49:16,995 --> 00:49:21,667
The first count was murder,
and the second count was rape.
767
00:49:22,876 --> 00:49:26,505
Based on the circumstances,
the law, and evidence at the time,
768
00:49:26,505 --> 00:49:30,133
we weren't able
to file a charge for the baby.
769
00:49:32,552 --> 00:49:36,431
Before we could pick a jury
and try the case,
770
00:49:36,431 --> 00:49:38,976
the defendant, through his attorney,
771
00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:41,770
indicated that he wanted
to enter a plea agreement.
772
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:45,148
He was willing to plead
to second-degree murder,
773
00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:48,235
which carries a sentence of 15 to life,
774
00:49:48,235 --> 00:49:51,446
and admit that he had in fact
killed Teresa.
775
00:49:53,031 --> 00:49:57,786
My feeling is that
he probably did not want his wife
776
00:49:57,786 --> 00:50:03,000
and his stepdaughter
to hear all of the details of the crime.
777
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,547
So, if you're in his position,
and you're gonna get convicted either way,
778
00:50:09,047 --> 00:50:11,633
then you maybe choose an option
779
00:50:11,633 --> 00:50:17,472
where you can maintain your innocence
in your private conversations with them.
780
00:50:20,726 --> 00:50:23,270
Yniguez was sentenced in October of 2019.
781
00:50:24,604 --> 00:50:27,024
You're talking
37-and-a-half years,
782
00:50:27,899 --> 00:50:29,985
40 to the day he got convicted.
783
00:50:30,902 --> 00:50:34,156
And I live with torment every day.
784
00:50:37,325 --> 00:50:39,828
Had the defendant
been convicted at trial,
785
00:50:39,828 --> 00:50:44,374
there would have been a mandatory sentence
of life without parole as the minimum.
786
00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:49,296
With a plea and pleading to 15 to life,
787
00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:51,298
he will be eligible for parole.
788
00:50:52,007 --> 00:50:55,135
But because you never know
what's gonna happen with a jury,
789
00:50:55,135 --> 00:50:56,470
it's a risk.
790
00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:01,933
I figure at his age, 15 to life...
791
00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:04,311
he ain't getting out.
792
00:51:04,311 --> 00:51:05,896
Now I get to sleep at night
793
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:08,648
knowing he's not gonna be around
to hurt anybody else.
794
00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:12,736
I was very relieved
when it was all over with.
795
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,738
It was very overwhelming for me.
796
00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:17,407
Now I can, um, start healing.
797
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,004
I made arrangements
to have a flower shop close by Malaga Cove
798
00:51:31,004 --> 00:51:33,590
to make her a real nice wreath in a cross.
799
00:51:36,843 --> 00:51:39,679
I picked it up. Everybody,
we caravaned all the way over there.
800
00:51:41,431 --> 00:51:43,934
We're with the family.
They're putting up this wreath,
801
00:51:43,934 --> 00:51:45,894
and on the banner, it says, "It's over."
802
00:51:48,313 --> 00:51:49,731
It was a weird feeling to be there.
803
00:51:50,982 --> 00:51:55,529
I'd been there a couple of times,
but now we had Yniguez convicted.
804
00:51:55,529 --> 00:51:57,030
We had answers.
805
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,372
Ralph Hernandez, he did me right.
806
00:52:05,372 --> 00:52:06,540
He did me justice.
807
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:10,377
He gave me everything I needed
to put this behind me.
808
00:52:11,002 --> 00:52:13,255
I can't thank him enough
for the hard work he did.
809
00:52:15,048 --> 00:52:18,885
He's a Chicano done good.
I go, "That's you, Ralph."
810
00:52:18,885 --> 00:52:20,554
"You should be proud of yourself."
811
00:52:23,014 --> 00:52:24,266
I'm very proud.
812
00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:28,186
It felt great to be able
to get answers for the family.
813
00:52:29,062 --> 00:52:31,565
It was, um, very satisfying,
814
00:52:31,565 --> 00:52:33,483
'cause you realize
the fruit of your hard labor,
815
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,360
all those hours, all those years...
816
00:52:36,987 --> 00:52:38,530
You made a difference.
817
00:52:53,295 --> 00:52:56,006
All missing person cases
come through Homicide.
818
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,426
If you're missing, the big question is...
819
00:53:00,218 --> 00:53:01,219
"Why?"
820
00:53:01,219 --> 00:53:04,931
Father of three,
the 6'6"-tall Smith has disappeared.
821
00:53:06,057 --> 00:53:08,602
Gavin Smith was a Fox executive.
822
00:53:08,602 --> 00:53:09,978
He was larger-than-life.
823
00:53:10,937 --> 00:53:13,773
It was highly irregular
that somebody like him
824
00:53:13,773 --> 00:53:15,942
would just vanish into thin air.
825
00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:19,654
- There's some weird stuff going on here.
He was in turmoil.
826
00:53:19,654 --> 00:53:22,616
Gavin had a pretty torrid affair.
827
00:53:22,616 --> 00:53:26,411
It's a mystery,
but somebody out there knows something.