1 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,520 The suspect's name is Robert Napper. 2 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,040 He's been detained at Broadmoor Secure Hospital since 1995. 3 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Convicted of double murder and several rapes, 4 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,920 though he's suspected of many more. 5 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Napper killed Rachel, André. 6 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:52,000 And this team is gonna prove it. 7 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,120 And am I supposed to just believe you? 8 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Why would I? 9 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Well, the DNA match is highly likely-- 10 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,840 If that was proof, you'd be telling me you've charged this man, 11 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,960 but you're not, are you? 12 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,800 The sample isn't yet up to evidential standard. 13 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,080 And what if it never is? 14 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 We're already assuming that we'll need to rely on other evidence. 15 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,600 But now we have a prime suspect, that search becomes more focused. 16 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,000 So he hasn't admitted it? 17 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,080 We're yet to interview him. 18 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,400 But we know from Napper's other crimes 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,760 that he only takes responsibility when he's got no alternative. 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 The Stagg team focused on securing a confession. 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,320 I know what they did. 22 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Our focus is on finding the hard evidence to prove beyond doubt 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,160 that Robert Napper is guilty. 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,000 Look, 25 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,600 I understand you want certainty. 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,880 I want the truth. 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,080 About that day and the days that followed when nobody's been held to account. 28 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,400 When you have that, 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,680 then I'll listen. 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Okay. 31 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,080 An unsolved case now dating back 14 years. 32 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,720 This is an investigation that, over a decade and a half, 33 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,800 has been scaled back, then reviewed, and has now been looking at new evidence. 34 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,800 But so far, there have been no fresh charges. 35 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,160 What's your Dad doing tonight? 36 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,040 I don't care. 37 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,000 André? Are you there? 38 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,480 It's Francisco. 39 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,320 I haven't seen you in months. Where are you? 40 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,720 We're worried about you. 41 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,360 So how do we put Robert Napper on Wimbledon Common 42 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,840 on the morning of 15th July, 1992? 43 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Okay, we start by proving he wasn't where he says he was. 44 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,520 Good. Which is? 45 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,600 At work. Serco in Greenwich. Says he was there all day. 46 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Any former colleagues still around? 47 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,520 The foreman. Uh, he was interviewed at the time. 48 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,000 He kept year planners, showing employee working hours, apparently. 49 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,360 But 1992 was never found. 50 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Right. Do you reckon it's worth having another chat with him? 51 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,680 -No, I very much doubt it. -Yeah, me too. 52 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,600 However, we need to look at everything… 53 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,760 "Everything and everyone like it's never been seen before." 54 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:20,800 -Right, have you got the shoe print? -Yeah, there you go. 55 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Tone, there's, um, this shoe print. 56 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,080 One of the only pieces of physical evidence 57 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,560 from the original crime scene. Right? 58 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Now, Benno's been through the logs to try and match it to Napper's shoes, 59 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,240 but… 60 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,640 …there's no footwear found in Napper's room 61 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,760 the day he got nicked. 62 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,520 -Nothing at all. -So…? 63 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,080 So we're wondering 64 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,960 what was he wearing on his feet when he got taken into custody? 65 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,200 Well, he was never out of custody again, was he? 66 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,600 No. 67 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,160 So… They couldn't still be in his property, could they? 68 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,000 In the stores at Broadmoor for the past ten years? 69 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,160 -It's worth a look. -Mm. 70 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,120 -Yeah. -Belt and braces, after last time. 71 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,600 Oh, and not a word to anyone before we get a warrant. 72 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,120 -Yeah. -What? 73 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Ever tried getting a warrant to search a prison? 74 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,720 Alex? 75 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,400 -You okay? -Yeah. 76 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,320 How's your week been? 77 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,360 Fine. 78 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Yeah? How about work? 79 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Yeah, fine. 80 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:47,880 How about you? 81 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Yeah. 82 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:52,640 Do you wanna eat now or later? 83 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Um… 84 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,640 I'm eating at Anna's tonight. 85 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Just came to grab a few things. 86 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:02,960 Right. 87 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Why didn't you let me know? 88 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,720 -I thought I had. -When, Alex? 89 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,440 You're never here. 90 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,480 Well, I'm here now if you want to talk. 91 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,320 There's not much to talk about. 92 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,040 Not sure you're interested to hear if the police have been in touch, but 93 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,800 they haven't. 94 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,480 They've clearly not got anywhere with this new suspect. 95 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:36,000 I should shower. 96 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,480 It was over ten years ago I was working there. 97 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,920 And, uh, you can't say for sure 98 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,960 whether or not Napper was at work on that particular day? 99 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,760 I have a bloody good memory, but… 100 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,360 Is there anyone you think might remember? 101 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Well, like I said, Napper wasn't there long. 102 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,880 And the only person I saw him talk to was himself. 103 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,000 The girls gave him a wide berth, I remember that. 104 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,240 You know I've said all this before? 105 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,120 Yeah. Yeah. 106 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,400 Um… And I believe you kept some year planners? Is that right? 107 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Ah, in the garage, yeah. I don't even know why I kept them. 108 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,480 They had all the employee working hours on them. 109 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,920 I gave '91 and '93 to the other lot. And the rest went in the bin. 110 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,320 There's still no sign of '92? 111 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,320 No. 112 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Mind if we had one last look? 113 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 You don't wanna go in there. 114 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,080 No. 115 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,360 No, you're quite right. I don't. 116 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,080 -They're massive things. -Right. 117 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,720 -You know, for the wall. -Yeah. 118 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,680 Fucking hell. 119 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Over here, guv. 120 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,040 -Merry Christmas. -Yeah. 121 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,360 Right. Here he is. 122 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Robert Napper. 123 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,320 Wednesday 15th July. 124 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,600 He was off work the whole day. 125 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,320 100%? 126 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,280 George is a scrupulous man. He's adamant. 127 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,240 This means Robert Napper was off work all day. 128 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Right, then. So now we can prove where he wasn't. 129 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Let's see if he'll tell us where he was. 130 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,520 Thanks again. 131 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,000 You're his solicitor? 132 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,400 That's right. 133 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,320 And if my client's medical team discern any distress during the interview, 134 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,000 I will stop it immediately. 135 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Bob's… …fragile. Mentally. 136 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Bob is also a convicted prisoner. 137 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,880 And a murder suspect. 138 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,760 Actually, he's not a prisoner. 139 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,040 He's a patient. 140 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,280 You're in a hospital, not a prison. 141 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Bob. Got you a seat just through here. 142 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,040 -There we go. -Hello, Robert. 143 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,440 There we go. That's it. 144 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,240 There we go. 145 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Okay. 146 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,160 We're here to talk to you about Rachel Nickell. 147 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,760 You know that name, don't you, Robert? 148 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,760 You've been asked about Rachel before, haven't you? 149 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Rachel was sexually assaulted and murdered in 1992. 150 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:09,440 As a result of scientific advances, 151 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,440 we've now identified previously unknown male DNA 152 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,920 which was found on Rachel's body. 153 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,520 And it's yours, Robert. 154 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,800 You understand what DNA is? 155 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,360 It's, uh… It's unique to you, like a… like a fingerprint. 156 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Yeah. Also means we know you had physical contact with Rachel that day. 157 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,680 Didn't you? 158 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Well, if you can explain it to us, Robert, this is your chance to do so. 159 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,600 Why don't you tell all of us what happened? 160 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Are you listening? 161 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,200 We didn't do that. 162 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,440 I believe you used to work at Serco in Greenwich, Robert. 163 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,160 You know, they have a year planner. 164 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,400 The year planner proves you weren't at work that day, Robert. 165 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,320 It also proves that you lied to police when you were asked about Rachel in 1995. 166 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,560 So why did you lie, Robert? 167 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,560 Where were you really on 15th July? 168 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,160 Robert. 169 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,360 No comment. Thank you. 170 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,480 What else did you lie about? 171 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,080 You were on Wimbledon Common that day, weren't you? 172 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,240 You did kill Rachel Nickell, didn't you? 173 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,080 -Detective Nash. -Why'd you let the little boy live? 174 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,960 Run out of time after you murdered Rachel? 175 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,640 Per the statement I read to you, 176 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 my client doesn't intend to answer any more questions. 177 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,240 What is it about mothers? Your own mum threw you out when you turned 18-- 178 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,560 -Detective Nash. -That's enough. 179 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Thank you. 180 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Thanks. 181 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,720 You okay? 182 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,760 Yeah. 183 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,000 "You're in a hospital… not a prison." 184 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Which we will get a warrant for. 185 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,040 All right. 186 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Police are questioning a 40-year-old man over the murder of Rachel Nickell. 187 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,280 A breakthrough in DNA has identified this particular suspect. 188 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,600 It's thought the man is currently being held 189 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,760 at Broadmoor Secure Hospital for a different crime. 190 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,680 Scotland Yard won't confirm a name, 191 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,560 saying simply that they are speaking to a 40-year-old 192 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,320 and that the interview is part of ongoing inquiries 193 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,000 into Rachel Nickell's murder. 194 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,480 You kept your promise. 195 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,400 -You got me to 18, all in one piece. -Hmm. 196 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,360 And are you? 197 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,400 -Am I what? -Well, uh… 198 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:43,640 are you, um… in one piece? 199 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,720 -Yeah, I think so. -Yeah? 200 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,160 Okay. So you think you've… you've put it all behind you now? 201 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,840 We really doing this now? 202 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,440 The first thing they said to me was, "He needs honesty." 203 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,640 And I've really tried to stick to that. I have. 204 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,640 And honestly, Alex, 205 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,520 adult to adult… 206 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,480 I don't think you have. 207 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,680 At all. 208 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,240 -I just wanna get on with my life. -I know you do. 209 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Yeah, so stop living in the past. 210 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,600 What does that mean, Alex? 211 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:22,600 Do I just pretend… that it never happened, like you do? 212 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,440 I know exactly what happened. I was there. 213 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,480 I know, but you don't know who did it. 214 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Or why he's still free. 215 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,840 We don't have the truth, Alex, 216 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,680 and I think until we do, there can be no peace of mind. 217 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,920 -Peace of mind? -For both of us. 218 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,320 You might not get that. 219 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,400 You're wasting your time. 220 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,960 You need to come to terms with that. 221 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,400 And just… get on with my life? 222 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,520 Is that what you think you've been doing? Searching for answers in religion? 223 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,200 It's not religion. It's faith. 224 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,520 -And about finding your own path. -Hmm. 225 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,440 Or maybe… 226 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,520 maybe you're just distracting yourself. 227 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,720 Whatever it is I'm doing, it… it's not your problem anymore. 228 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Okay. 229 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,520 -Sir? -What's that? 230 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,280 Brown. 231 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,200 As described by the witness. Okay. 232 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Okay. Uh, yeah, let's get them to the experts. 233 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,000 Bloody hell. 234 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,640 Right, yeah, grab that. 235 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,040 Well, you're definitely onto something. 236 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 When Alex was examined on the day, they combed his hair 237 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,760 and found several small shards of metallic paint. 238 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Red paint. 239 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,880 How the fuck could that have transferred? 240 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,520 We don't know if it did yet, but this was Napper's murder box, wasn't it? 241 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,920 Even better, the samples from Alex's hair still exist. 242 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Right, so what's the bad news? There's always bad news. 243 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,360 The more challenging news is that running the test on these shards 244 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,080 will simultaneously destroy them. Basically, we get one shot. 245 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,920 And if the test doesn't work, that evidence is lost forever. 246 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,360 And we need a match on that and the shoes to be able to charge Napper. 247 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Yeah. Oh, about the shoes. 248 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,920 They haven't had a proper look yet, but they reckon the size is wrong. 249 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Fuck's sake. 250 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,240 However, they are taking them to the common 251 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,800 to be tested under identical conditions. 252 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,120 So… fingers crossed. 253 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Yeah, very fucking scientific. 254 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,600 Guv? 255 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,040 Phone for you. 256 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,360 -Forensics? -Says she'll only talk to you. 257 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,520 It's a court summons, Robert. 258 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,320 The police are charging you with the murder of Rachel Nickell. 259 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,120 We didn't do that. 260 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Okay. 261 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Who was on the phone? 262 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Dad? 263 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Um… 264 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,120 It was the police. 265 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,080 They charged him? 266 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Mm-hmm. 267 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,320 They, um… 268 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,280 they want to know if we'll come to the trial. 269 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,440 You're not seriously thinking of going after last time, right? 270 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,760 I don't wanna trust someone else's word again. 271 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:31,400 I need to see it for myself. 272 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,960 -We both do. -The trial's got nothing to do with us. 273 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,960 They're saying the likelihood of this DNA profile 274 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,840 belonging to anyone other than this man is one in 12 million. 275 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,880 I'm not going, Dad. 276 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,000 That's final, and nor should you. 277 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,640 A 41-year-old man charged with the murder of Rachel Nickell 278 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,040 has been remanded in custody. 279 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:58,240 Robert Napper appeared by video link from Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital. 280 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,720 He was bailed until a hearing later this month. 281 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,440 Dad? Dad? 282 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,040 -Dad. -I know. I know. 283 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:34,280 They've known where we were all along. They've been waiting for an excuse. 284 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,720 I've tried to fight them, and it doesn't work. Stop. 285 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,040 André, I guarantee, talk to me and the rest will leave you alone. 286 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,680 We've said all we're going to say. 287 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 -You're wasting your time. -Let's talk money. 288 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,680 -Fuck you! -Is that you, Alex? 289 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,360 Look, the police have been called. You're trespassing. Just leave. Just go! 290 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,760 They've been speaking to the neighbors. The whole town's gonna know. 291 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,640 -So? -Alex, what about Anna? 292 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 -What about her? -You haven't told her, have you? 293 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,760 Okay, so shouldn't she hear it from you? 294 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Alex! Alex! 295 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Alex, how you doing? It's Pete Collier at The Sun. 296 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,120 I just need two minutes of your time. 297 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,880 Your mum sounds amazing. 298 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 I do remember her face, but, 299 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,120 most of all, I remember the feeling… 300 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 of being completely loved by her 301 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:17,480 and loving her completely. 302 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,280 And I can still smell her. 303 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,920 I kept a bottle of her perfume. 304 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,440 Why didn't you tell me sooner? 305 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,080 It's a different lifetime. 306 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,760 And I'm not used to talking about it. 307 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,520 My father has always been so… 308 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,960 That bag by the front door… 309 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Always ready to run if… 310 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,360 And now they've found you. 311 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,320 So what happens next? 312 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280 This time, I won't run. 313 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,840 I know lots of people have been asking questions. 314 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,920 You understand why, don't you? 315 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:12,960 They know he's a millionaire. 316 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920 That's why they keep coming back. They know about his family. 317 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,400 And what about your family, Bob? 318 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,040 I'd like to know more about them. 319 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,320 They're all in the Who's Who book. 320 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,640 I know that your father was very special to you. 321 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,480 You looked up to him. 322 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Well, they don't believe that… 323 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,960 that I… that he… won the Nobel Peace Prize. 324 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,400 That's because he didn't tell them everything. 325 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,720 He left you, your father, didn't he? 326 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,520 Some of the numbers, they doubled. 327 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,240 So those years would have felt twice as long as they should have. 328 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,360 I've noticed you've been very preoccupied lately 329 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,880 with the numbers and other thoughts. 330 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,520 But why do you think that is? 331 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,560 What are you so scared of, Bob? 332 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,280 All the money's in the bank. In Sidcup. 333 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,560 All the money from Star Wars. 334 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,240 I'd like to talk about Rachel. 335 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,960 I think it might help. 336 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,880 I'm not gonna ask you if you killed her. That's not my job as your psychiatrist. 337 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,480 My job is to help you face the truth. 338 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,960 You might think that means you… staying here for longer. 339 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Maybe even forever. 340 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,560 But in a different way, 341 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,920 it could free you. 342 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,760 I think… this could be a real chance, Bob. 343 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,560 For you to start really progressing. 344 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,760 What about Rachel's family? 345 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,640 I'm sure it'll mean a great deal for them to know the truth. 346 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,680 What about that little boy? 347 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,440 Doesn't he deserve to know what happened to his mother? 348 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,800 And what about the little boy inside you, Bob? 349 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,520 He's still there, isn't he? 350 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,840 What does he deserve? 351 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,120 Where's Alex? Has he gone back to London? Has he gone back to the trial? 352 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,920 Do you think you'll get justice this time? 353 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:04,280 -Where's Alex? Where is he? -We just wanna talk! André! 354 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,600 André, we just wanna clear this up. 355 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Mr. Hanscombe. 356 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,960 André. Commander Campbell. Sorry to have kept you waiting so long. 357 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,000 We agreed to meet hours ago. 358 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,360 Something came up. 359 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,360 Please, take a seat. 360 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,000 -I remember you. -Really? 361 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,240 Perhaps. Although I was only ever on the periphery of the original inquiry. 362 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,040 I wanted to see you because… 363 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,800 …I feel you should hear certain facts 364 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,680 before we tell the media. 365 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,640 Facts? 366 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:00,360 About Mr. Napper. 367 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,360 It appears he had some contact with various authorities as a child 368 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,040 and later, prior to his most serious crimes. 369 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,280 I want to assure you 370 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:14,480 that he only came to police attention for relatively minor offenses. 371 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,640 However… 372 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,320 …I'm afraid we can only expect our friends in the media, 373 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,080 I know you have a history with them, 374 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,440 to make much of what is in reality very little. 375 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,560 So are you saying that… you knew of him before the murders? 376 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,520 Hindsight is a wonderful thing, André. 377 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,760 But the truth is, 378 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,280 nobody could have foreseen the true extent of Napper's offenses. 379 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,320 Now, I urge you 380 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,200 not to engage with the media around this for your own sake. 381 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,960 You know what they're like. The most important thing now 382 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,760 is for you and your son to get the justice you deserve. 383 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:53,960 That should be the sole focus. 384 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,680 For all of us. 385 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,320 Thank you for coming. 386 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,720 Hi. 387 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,160 Silence in court. 388 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,160 Please stand. 389 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,920 Please be seated. 390 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,360 Will the accused please stand? 391 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Robert Clive Napper, 392 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,720 you are charged that on 15th July, 1992, 393 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,720 at Wimbledon Common, London, 394 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720 you did murder Rachel Nickell. 395 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,360 How do you plead? 396 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Not guilty 397 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,840 to murder. 398 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,280 But… 399 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,680 guilty to 400 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,360 diminished responsibility. 401 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Sorry. Guilty to 402 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,200 manslaughter by diminished responsibility. 403 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,280 Mr. Napper has suffered from Asperger's syndrome since childhood 404 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,000 and then latterly paranoid schizophrenia. 405 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,280 But his psychosis has been evident as early as 1989, 406 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,360 when he was admitted to the hospital following an attempt to take his own life. 407 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,120 He believes he has telepathic powers. 408 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,760 He also talks about being kneecapped by the IRA 409 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,000 and that his fingers were blown off while defusing a bomb. 410 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,000 The fingers, he says, have regrown because he inhaled sparkle fumes. 411 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Mr. Napper, please stand. 412 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,760 You stabbed Rachel a total of 49 times. 413 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120 All the while, Alex was there. 414 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,720 The marks on his face prove that, in my judgment, 415 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,280 you dragged him away from his mother. 416 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,800 That he was not killed, as you were to later kill Jazmine Bisset, 417 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,200 is almost certainly explained by your anxiety not to be caught 418 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,080 by staying too long. 419 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Now in early adulthood, 420 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680 Alex knows the man who killed his mother 421 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,920 has been brought, albeit belatedly, to justice. 422 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:34,360 It may be that he can now close a long-drawn-out chapter in his life. 423 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,920 You are, in my view, a very dangerous man. 424 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,240 You must be returned immediately to Broadmoor, 425 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,000 and you will never be released 426 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,240 unless you are no longer a danger to the public. 427 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080 That is unlikely ever to happen. 428 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Do you have anything to say? 429 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,000 My client would like to apologize to the friends and family of Rachel Nickell 430 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,720 for the dreadful thing that he did, 431 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,480 and also to Colin Stagg, who was wrongfully accused of the murder. 432 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,920 Take him down. 433 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Will someone… say sorry to the little boy? 434 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,320 Ah, André. 435 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,160 Trust you're happy with the verdict? 436 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,560 You can finally put it all behind you now, eh? 437 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,080 Assistant Commissioner Yates is going to say a few words to the media. 438 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,360 Wanted to make sure there was nothing you'd like to add. 439 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,560 After all these years, this is all you have to say? 440 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,400 I'm sorry? 441 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,360 Why has this taken so long, Commander? 442 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,600 You could have stopped him before he killed anyone. Couldn't you? 443 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,880 -I think-- -Couldn't you? 444 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,480 So, no, I've got nothing to say. 445 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,840 Not to them and certainly not to you. 446 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,840 And a man has admitted the manslaughter of Rachel Nickell. 447 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,240 In a shocking admission, police say that Napper could have been stopped. 448 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,320 They missed several chances to arrest him. 449 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,640 At last, we can finally say 450 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,680 that we have achieved justice for Rachel and her family. 451 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Turning now to Mr. Colin Stagg. 452 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,960 In August, 1993, he was wrongly accused of Rachel's murder, 453 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680 and I today apologize to him, 454 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,960 and we also recognize the huge and lasting impact 455 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,080 that this has had on his life. 456 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,520 It's also now proper to recognize 457 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,320 the dedicated and professional work of the current investigation team 458 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 that has brought us to this point. 459 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,920 They have been unstinting in their attention to detail 460 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,040 and their determination over a number of years 461 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,080 to find the evidence that has finally brought Robert Napper to justice. 462 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,800 What has emerged today is how Napper evaded capture, 463 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,800 due more to the institutional incompetence of the Metropolitan Police 464 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,680 than the killer's guile. 465 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,440 Why would the killer apologize if it made no difference to his sentence? 466 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,880 That man's not very well, Alex. 467 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,080 We've known that for a long time. 468 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,240 I'm not sure he even knows why he said it. 469 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,920 You're still looking for something, aren't you? 470 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,600 I really don't need more advice. 471 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,320 Has the trial… 472 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760 The trial means nothing to me. 473 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,840 What about Robert Napper? 474 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:12,320 If it was me, I think what I'd be asking is, why? 475 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,360 "Why" what? 476 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,440 Why did he do what he did? 477 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,120 Because he's ill? 478 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480 He still made a choice. 479 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,840 But why? 480 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,720 You deserve an explanation. 481 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,920 -Hello -Mr. Hanscombe. 482 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,600 Thank you. Have a good day. 483 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,720 Dr. Monroe. 484 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560 -Could I talk to you? -I'm running late, I'm afraid. 485 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,800 You used to treat Robert Napper, didn't you? You were one of his doctors. 486 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,400 I've said everything I'm gonna say to the press. 487 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,120 No, I'm not the press. I'm… 488 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,760 I'm… I'm Alex Hanscombe. Rachel Nickell's son. 489 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,320 I just need 15 minutes of your time, please. 490 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,080 I can't tell you anything that's not already in the public domain. 491 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,240 Well, you could tell me who he is and what he's like. 492 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,800 There's very little to tell. 493 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,520 I heard he was badly bullied at school. His mum and dad fought a lot. 494 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,440 Well, that's an understatement. 495 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Robert was the eldest, and 496 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,400 he and his mother bore the brunt of his father's drunken violence. 497 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,040 Robert's Asperger's was undiagnosed for most of his childhood, 498 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,640 adding to his isolation. 499 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,080 And around the age of 12, he was seriously assaulted. 500 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,040 It's a matter of record. 501 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,200 The man was charged. 502 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,120 Robert was raped in woodland by a family friend. 503 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,400 Why did he attack women? 504 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,960 Why did he target mothers with children? I can't tell you because I don't know. 505 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,680 I know you don't have the answers. 506 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,320 What I mean is, Robert's never talked about his crimes. 507 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,320 Not to anyone, as far as I know. 508 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,760 I think it's possible 509 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,440 that he was violently angry with his mother for his father leaving. 510 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,720 And he was punishing her again and again 511 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,200 in the shape of women who were being maternal 512 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,760 in a way that he never really experienced. 513 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:34,840 So what you're saying is… 514 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,760 my mother was his mother? 515 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,920 Possibly. 516 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,520 It may also be why he allowed you to live. 517 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,560 Because you were him. 518 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,040 Does he remember? 519 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,920 Remember what happened to him? 520 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,920 I believe so. 521 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,800 Though he has few childhood memories. 522 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:08,080 Traumatized and neglected children often have poor autobiographical memory, 523 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,800 and events that others can recall, 524 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,720 like birthdays, 525 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,840 Christmas, 526 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,960 mostly never happened. 527 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,600 So there's a void. 528 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,840 I have plenty of memories 529 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,200 from before and after that day. 530 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,520 Then 531 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,040 you were probably made to feel safe and loved. 532 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,440 Alex. 533 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,480 Hey. 534 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,720 -What's that? -Um… 535 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920 I wasn't sure whether to show you, to be honest, um, 536 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,800 but it was addressed to both of us. 537 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,840 It's been sent anonymously from inside the Crown Prosecution Service. 538 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,560 It seems the police didn't tell us everything. 539 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,120 All of this makes up a detailed account of every chance they missed… 540 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,800 Sit down. Um… 541 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,360 Every chance they missed to stop the killer 542 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,960 before he attacked you and your mother and up to a hundred other women. 543 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,120 There's so much more than the press has covered. 544 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,880 Like, for example, in 1989, his own mother phoned the police 545 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,440 and told them that he'd confessed to rape, and it just wasn't followed up. 546 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560 And then a year after he killed your mother, 547 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,160 the police caught him in the garden of a woman's home, 548 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,440 and they gave him a lift back to his flat. 549 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,800 And then three months later, he murdered Jazmine and Samantha Bisset. 550 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,880 It just goes on and on, mistake after mistake. 551 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,960 Missed opportunity after missed opportunity-- 552 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,280 So is this what you've been hoping for? Does this finally bring you peace of mind? 553 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,560 No, Alex, it's just… 554 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200 They failed all of us, and this proves it. 555 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080 There's blood on their hands as well as the killer's. 556 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,560 Well, maybe he was failed too. 557 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:04,720 Sorry? 558 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,360 I didn't tell you why I went to London. 559 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080 -I met with a doctor… who treated him. -A doctor? 560 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,640 You met with his psychiatrist. Why? Alex… 561 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,080 It seems terrible things did happen to the killer too. 562 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,120 -That doesn't condone this. -Maybe worse than what we-- 563 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200 Don't dare compare yourself to him. You are nothing like this man. 564 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,240 That's the point! 565 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,960 It's hard to make good choices 566 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,800 when you don't have someone who cares for you. I've always had that. 567 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,440 I had my mother, and whatever happened, I've always had you. 568 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,240 I once told you that I don't respect you, Dad, and I meant it. 569 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,320 I don't feel that way anymore. 570 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,040 I've got nothing but respect for what you've done for me. 571 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,440 You kept me alive. 572 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,760 No, Alex, you… 573 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,640 you kept me alive. 574 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,360 We have to focus now on what we've gained. 575 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,880 It's the only way forward now. 576 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,640 Your mother would be so proud of you. 577 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,600 Well, maybe… 578 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,400 maybe this is how we do it. 579 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,360 Do what? 580 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,400 Maybe this is how we turn a negative into a positive. 581 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,920 How? 582 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,800 Well, I don't know yet, Alex, but… 583 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,840 whatever it is, I know I can't do it without you. 584 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,960 All my life, people have said that my mother's killer spared me, 585 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,160 gave me a second chance. 586 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,160 But I don't believe he let me live. 587 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,920 I believe love did that. 588 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,800 Quite interesting to see, isn't it? 589 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,280 Can you do some more riding of your fire engine for me? 590 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,360 What's that? 591 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,400 -What have you got? -What's in the back? 592 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,360 -Hammer. -Hammer? 593 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,760 Should I… Alex? 594 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,800 Yes. 595 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,880 Come on, Sam, let's go down to the bandstand at the double. 596 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,520 Off we go. Bye! 597 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,760 I'm behind you. 598 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,040 -I don't think you are there. -I love you.