- I was engaged once before, to Ken,
he didn't like the attention.
And so I attributed him breaking off the engagement
to the fame.
- What?
- I have two men in my heart.
I miss Ken.
- Marriage is hard, nobody said it was easy.
But you have to work at it.
- And are you not wanting to fight for this anymore?
No?
[tense music]
It's not up to me. It's never been up to me.
- It's just something that you have to go through
the rough stuff to get to where you belong.
Is it the right thing? I don't know.
Is it the wrong thing? I don't know.
[tense music]
- That was the hardest part, huh?
- [Gypsy] Yeah.
- Just let it out all right now if you want to, Gypsy,
scream if you want to.
It's okay.
Let it out.
- He keeps texting me, he's like, you know,
"If you don't, just tell me you don't love me,
tell me that--"
- [Kristy] It's not that you don't.
- And I'm like I can't-- - You don't love him.
- I can't tell you I don't.
- You don't love him like you should,
or love him like how he loves you.
[emotive music]
- I thought that I tried.
- [Kristy] You did, baby. You did.
You did. - I mean, I'm not perfect.
There are some things that...
- [Kristy] Who is? - I could've done different.
- But who is perfect, sweetie?
Nobody.
Nobody's perfect.
- And I mean, it's...
It's heartbreaking because it's like,
I know he feels like our relationship
was like maybe something just for prison, and it wasn't.
♪ Did you know the day the Earth stood still ♪
♪ Is when I found you
- I married him because I thought
that this marriage could work,
and then three months into us living together,
it's like, things come up.
- And nobody faults you for that.
Not at all.
- And I mean, I know I'm a lot to handle too, you know.
- [Kristy] You're not a lot to handle.
Don't, you're not.
- Like-- - [Kristy] But--
- The fact that he stood by me through everything,
I love him for that, and I'm grateful for that.
♪ Take my hand, wreck my plans
♪ And if you lost your wings
♪ Take mine instead
♪ Wherever we are racing through ♪
♪ Every time I look at you, our love ♪
- Seeing what she's going through right now,
and I told her that, "Gypsy, the way you're feeling,
I felt the same way with your mother."
And she made a mistake of marrying Ryan,
and it takes some courage to accept that you feel that way
and you made a mistake, and realize it,
and say it, and take some action.
I think it's gonna help her grow a lot,
and that's what I wanna see.
[soft music]
- [Gypsy] You got it?
♪ You should know the day the Earth stood still ♪
- Ready? - Ready.
♪ Is when I learn to love again ♪
- [Gypsy] [laughs] Hey. - Welcome home.
- Hey. - [Kristy] Surprise!
- It's been a long day.
- Welcome home. - Thank you.
- Make yourself at home. - [Gypsy] I will.
[light music]
All right.
- Start making a list of things that, any...
We'll turn this into your own.
It is your own.
- Today's been emotionally exhausting.
Having to leave Pixie behind, that was hard.
I know why I'm doing what I'm doing.
It's no offense to Ryan, I think that he is a good person,
but he himself has baggage that he brings into our marriage,
and I have hella baggage that I bring in our marriage.
I'm just trying to do what's best for me right now.
Like I texted Ryan and I'm like,
I wanna hold you, I want to make it better,
I want the hurt to go away for you,
but I know I'm not that person right now for you,
I'm the person that's making you sad.
- He cussed me out, and I understood.
Things were going good
until the day that it wasn't going good.
[somber music]
- She texted me and said,
"But I still love you, and I miss you,"
you know, things like that.
And I'm texting her, like, "Hey, I miss you,
I really wish you'd call me," or whatever, da da da da.
And the first thing she does
is send me a picture that people have got
that released of her and Ken.
This is it.
"Ken came to visit."
Her not wearing her ring.
She wrote, "We just hung out."
It was surprising to say the least,
it was, but in my head I was like, "Of course he came."
And she goes on to tell me that you know,
"Don't worry, we're just friends."
I wake up to the next day, I see them get matching tattoos.
And when you put 'em together, it's a heart,
of two huskies, the dog they always talked about getting.
So what I do is I take a picture of our actual dog, Pixie,
and I said, "Are you really gonna take that dog
over your actual dog that we bought together
that's here right now?"
And she couldn't say nothing.
The matching tattoos broke my heart.
[tense music]
It was like, did I mean anything?
Did I mean anything?
[Ryan crying]
[clock ticking]
- So this is the picture that's circulating,
this is Gypsy and her ex Ken, at the tattoo parlor.
- Gypsy is living her single girl fantasy,
so maybe they're just having a spring fling,
maybe they're getting back together.
Who knows, I don't care, I'm obsessed with this.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.
- [Ryan] Don't even act like I don't have you for adultery.
- [Gypsy] I don't wanna be hit with adultery,
not for, you know, a friendship,
I mean we haven't done anything that consists of adultery.
- [Ryan] Gypsy, you're honestly gonna sit there
and tell me y'all didn't have sex?
- [Gypsy] We didn't do any of that.
- [Ryan] Honest to God? - [Gypsy] Honest.
- [Ryan] I'm not gonna sit here and admit
that, "Okay I believe you,"
I'm not gonna admit to that.
- [Gypsy] So you're gonna try to get me on adultery?
- [Ryan] I don't know, Gypsy,
I don't know anything right now.
You know, this week's been a whirlwind to you,
it's been a whirlwind to me too.
We haven't even seen each other to talk.
- [Gypsy] I know, the last time that we seen each other,
we were very heated in this argument.
- [Ryan] No, the last time I saw you, you said,
"You know I love you," and then you walked outta the room.
- [Gypsy] I do love you!
I wanted to find out what my life would've been like,
had it not been like that we got married.
I don't want this to be something that you hate me for,
which, I mean if I was you, I'd probably hate me.
I've broken every vow that I made.
[somber music]
And it hurts me that I hurt you.
- [Ryan] 'Cause you still love me.
- [Gypsy] Of course I love you. And I always will.
- [Ryan] You're still technically my wife,
and I do miss you, I'm not gonna lie, I miss you terribly.
- [Gypsy] Ryan, it's too late.
I've set down a path I can't change, even if I wanted to.
- [Ryan] Yes you could, if you wanted to, you could, baby.
I mean, come on, at least let me see you.
- [Gypsy] I told you I needed time
to figure out how I felt.
- [Ryan] But you haven't even seen me!
It's not fair.
- I've lived with you for three months.
- [Gypsy] Do you think that if you saw me
anything would change?
- [Ryan] Maybe, but I mean, me not seeing you
after one fight is (bleep), it's (bleep).
- [Gypsy] I just don't think it's a good idea.
- [Ryan] Why?
- [Gypsy] [sighs] Because I don't--
- [Ryan] So you know.
- [Gypsy] I don't wanna give you false hope.
- [Ryan] False hope?
- [Gypsy] Even this call is giving you false hope.
I shouldn't have called.
- [Ryan] Babe, when I married you,
I knew this would be difficult,
I knew that.
But you gotta know, I'm still right here,
I've been here this whole time.
- [Gypsy] I know, but I'm not.
- I want a divorce,
and in six to nine months, I'm gonna be with Ken.
- [Ryan] You are still Gypsy Rose-Anderson,
you know that, right?
- [Gypsy] Trust me, I know.
I'll text you later.
[tense music]
[Gypsy sighing]
[phone ringing]
- [Ken] Hey!
- [Gypsy] Hey, what are you doing?
- [Ken] I'm driving. [laughs]
What are you doing?
- [Gypsy] I talked to Ryan,
I just got off the phone with him.
- [Gypsy] Yeah.
[Gypsy groaning]
- [Gypsy] He wants to meet up.
- [Gypsy] Obviously, I don't think it's a good idea.
I told him point blank, I said, "I want a divorce,
and after this six to nine months, I'm gonna be with Ken."
- [Gypsy] Mm-hmm.
- [Gypsy] He's still like trying to like work it out with me.
- [Gypsy] Any part of me that wants to? No.
- [Gypsy] Honestly, no.
- [Gypsy] I know. I trust you.
- [Gypsy] I love you, too. Be safe.
- [Gypsy] I will. I'll talk to you soon.
Bye.
Ken has always been in my heart,
and I needed to find out what it was that I was feeling,
why can't I get, like, not let go?
And he came to visit me, so this is the first time
we've been able to see each other in person.
We had a great weekend.
We went to New Orleans, we just hung out, got caught up.
The idea of getting a husky together
has always been like a thing that we've bonded over.
So when we reconnected, I was like,
"Let's get matching husky tattoos." [laughs]
This was my idea. [laughs] I'm like, "Let's do it!"
I'm like, "This feels right, this feels good."
For the first time, I'm like, "Hell yeah!"
Like I'm happy right now, like this is freaking awesome.
We just create happiness,
where it's almost like a giddy teenager happy.
Having that taste of what it could be like with Ken
just solidified my feelings for him.
The heart wants what it wants, it's a complicated organ.
[gentle music]
- [Kristy] My keys are in the car?
- [Gypsy] I think so.
- [Kristy] Well, today's the big day for her rhinoplasty.
She whispered to me that she was scared.
- [Gypsy] I wasn't told when I was a kid,
oh, I'm pretty, my confidence was nothing.
So, regardless of what the comments are that come my way,
I wanna go in for the best,
but if the worst happens, it's not the end of the world.
♪ No one can stop us now
♪ We've made it this far
- [Kristy] To think of everything
that she went through before,
hundreds of surgeries that she has gotten
because of her mom, and this time it's her choice,
it's nobody else but hers, she's in control.
[upbeat music]
I was proud when she decided she's doing this.
It's a milestone for her.
♪ This is our moment, this is our moment ♪
♪ We could feel it in our bones ♪
♪ There's no letting go
- [Gypsy] I'm like, getting queasier,
so I just can't think about it.
- [Doctor] You wanna look at it?
- [Gypsy] Yeah.
- [Gypsy] Oh, wow. - [Kristy] Wow.
- It looks so good.
- [Doctor] So if you feel,
like right here where your bump used to be,
you'll feel that's kinda sponge-y.
- [Gypsy] Okay. - [Doctor] And that's important,
'cause you're gonna get the skin
to kinda get where the new level of the bone and cartilage is.
- [Kristy] Girl. - [Doctor] You survived.
- [Gypsy] I survived it.
- [Doctor] Yeah, I like it, I think it's cute.
- [Gypsy] I think it looks really good.
- [Doctor] So if you look at your--
- [Gypsy] You did good work! [laughs]
- [Kristy] Good job.
- [Doctor] If you look at your old nose.
- [Kristy] Wow.
- [Doctor] You can kinda see the difference.
- [Kristy] Wow. - [Gypsy] Yeah.
In the beginning of me getting out,
I had tried to go through a physical transformation,
just with like my hair, my style,
different things about myself.
So I think this is something a little bit more permanent,
and I like it though, it's a good choice for me.
- [Doctor] So that's your before nose.
- [Gypsy] Oh, wow.
It looks great.
- [Doctor] Yeah, I think-- - [Kristy] It does, I'm like,
I can't believe it, that's... - [Doctor] You did super.
- [Gypsy] I'm happy with myself going forward,
and I think it's more internal work
that I need to do on myself.
[clock ticking]
- Gypsy Rose Blanchard's officially changed her look,
undergoing plastic surgery on Friday.
The procedure went well,
and Gypsy's super stoked to see how she looks
after she's totally healed up.
- You absolutely do not need plastic surgery
Ms Gyp Gyp, you are beautiful the way you are,
but of course, it seems like this is something
she's been thinking about for a while.
- think it's only a matter of time
before we find out that they have gotten back together.
[tense music]
- Remember when she said the D was fire?
I guess it has burnt out.
- [Gypsy] I feel like I did the right thing on my part
by filing for divorce, like...
Regardless of what is going on behind the scenes
with me and Ken,
the right thing to do was acknowledge
that this marriage is not what I want and not working,
and file based on that.
- [Mia] That's awful to say. - [Kristy] But--
- [Gypsy] No, it's really true, though.
- [Kristy] It's the truth.
- [Gypsy] She said it since day one.
- [Kristy] 'Cause me and Ken never lost touch.
- [Mia] But see, that's what makes me--
- [Kristy] No, it was like--
- [Mia] Don't cut me off. - [Kristy] "Happy birthday,"
and stuff like-- you cut me off.
It was, it got less and less.
Like when they first split.
- [Mia] You played a big role in their thing, though.
- [Kristy] Well you know, she needed to know the real reason
why he ended it.
- [Mia] Did she? - [Kristy] Yes she did, because-
- [Mia] He should've told her then, not you.
- [Mia] Did she? - [Kristy] Yes she did, because-
- [Kristy] Ryan didn't want her--
- [Gypsy] I did block him, because Ryan wanted me to.
- [Kristy] Right, so-- - [Mia] If you ever came to me
talking about one of my exes while I'm with Andre,
like married, like that is- - [Kristy] No, no.
Y'all situation's different.
She needed closure.
And she didn't have it, so I took it upon myself to do it.
He let her go,
because he wanted her to find herself without him.
The main reason why he ended it was not what we thought.
- [Mia] Yeah, I don't know if I believe that, either.
I still gotta, I gotta talk to him.
I gotta make my own...
- [Gypsy] And that's something that I want you to do.
Like, on your own time, you know.
- [Kristy] I wouldn't have liked if
Ryan would've dogged Ken after he knew the real truth.
- [Gypsy] He did.
- [Mia] That is still not your place.
- [Kristy] Well, I didn't say it was my,
I said this is my opinion.
- [Mia] And he had every right to hate Ken and all that.
He has every single right. - [Kristy] Exactly.
- So let him feel the way he- - [Kristy] Exactly.
- [Mia] Then why are you saying that you wouldn't
want him talking about Ken like that?
That is his feelings.
- [Kristy] No, he has a better understanding--
- [Mia] Oh my gosh. - [Kristy] Mia, of why.
- [Mia] I'm not gonna, okay. Conversation done.
Before I get pissed off, I'm not talking more.
- [Kristy] I just see things at all different angles
than you, I guess.
- [Mia] No, 'cause you're saying one thing and then,
I say something else, but then you agree with me
and it's just flip flop like a-
- [Kristy] I don't agree with, I'm telling you why
I told her, why I told Gypsy-
- [Gypsy] Y'all have the worst communication.
- [Mia] She don't know when to stop talking
and she keeps talking on and on and on--
- [Kristy] In circles.
- [Mia] And don't even make sense sometimes.
I'm like, "What are you even trying to say?"
- [Kristy] Well, I'm just trying to make the whole thing--
- [Mia] I get, but do you see my whole point?
You don't like to, you say "I, I, I."
- [Kristy] I, I, yeah.
Because that's how I, and I told you,
I, this is my opinion. - [Mia] All right.
- [Kristy] Not Gypsy's, not the man in the moon's opinion,
my opinion.
- [Mia] There just have been many things
from many different angles that have bothered me.
And I don't know.
Maybe just different values, different morals,
but I mean, it is what it is. It's not my life.
- [Kristy] Well, like I said--
- [Gypsy] Normally, it's not my values, but.
- [Mia] A little different thing between Ryan and Ken,
for me, is that Ken knew that Gypsy was still married.
Where's your respect for Ryan?
You may not like the guy at all, but like,
for me, that says a lot about your character.
And I don't feel like he was trying to protect Gypsy
in the best way.
How are you protecting her,
from what these people are gonna say about her?
How are you protecting her from
what the world is gonna think of her?
You are not doing anything, at all.
Y'all are making irrational decisions
based on short-term happiness instead of,
you know, thinking long-term.
- [Gypsy] Watching Mia and Kristy fight,
I'm just like, "Mm-hmm."
People get affected by my choices.
I get affected by my choices.
But at the end of the day, I have to also
live with myself and, if nobody else is gonna make me happy,
I have to do what's gonna make me happy.
- [Kristy] I don't regret a thing. You know why?
She's my priority.
I want her to be happy.
I want her to live, bottom line.
[soft music]
- [Ryan] Come on, Pix. [smooches]
Come on.
Hey. - [Joy] Who's here?
- [Ryan] Pixie Pix. - [Joy] Pixie Pix!
- [Ryan] Yeah. [dogs barking]
- [Joy] Did you sleep in here last night?
- [Ryan] Yeah. I sleep fine.
I get a text at like three in the morning,
"Hey, I'm awake. Please let me know you're okay.
How's our baby doing?"
- [Joy] Oh, now she wants to know about Pix.
- [Ryan] Now she wants to know about, "I miss her so much,
how's our baby?"
Stuff like that gives me hope and it's...
- [Joy] But, I know, Ryan, but is that healthy?
- [Ryan] Mom, that's what I'm dealing with.
That's, I have to fight that.
- [Joy] I know, I know.
I know, it's such a rollercoaster ride.
- [Ryan] Last night, she told me "I'm selfish,
I'm sorry I'm so selfish."
- [Joy] If she wants to go, go.
But why the continual contact?
- [Ryan] You know, I'm struggling with that,
I'm wondering how much longer I can take.
- [Joy] You're gonna know when you've had enough.
You're gonna know.
But that don't mean there's not a lot of heartbreak
in between that. - Yeah.
[soft music]
She got out, we went to New York and we had this
honeymoon romance in New York and then we came back
and started living our regular life.
I think she expected it to stay that honeymoon perfect phase
like, living carefree.
- [Joy] Do you think she had that envisioned
in her mind before she was released,
that that's the way that life's gonna be?
- [Ryan] Yes.
- [Joy] Well, it's not like that.
- [Ryan] So when Ken came to visit, it was a vacation.
It was wonderful, it was a vacation.
'Cause it was. - [Joy] Yeah, it was. It was.
- [Ryan] That's not real life. - [Joy] Mm-mm.
- [Rod] So how was your time with Ken?
- [Gypsy] It was amazing.
- [Rod] Really? - [Gypsy] Yeah.
We went to New Orleans and we did like a swamp tour.
We got Jazz Fest tickets. - [Rod] Yes.
- [Gypsy] I talked to Mia about it.
- [Rod] Yeah.
- And she's okay with him coming.
She copped an attitude with me.
Rightfully so.
'Cause she asked me, she's like,
"Oh, you going to get a tattoo?"
I said, "Yeah, I'm gonna get a tattoo.
Ken's getting one, too."
She didn't ask me if we were getting matching tattoos.
So I kind of left that part out.
- [Kristy] Did you show him?
- [Gypsy] No, no, I didn't. - Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Oh, it is bigger.
- [Gypsy] Yeah, it's a lot bigger than what I thought.
And then, like his is the same thing,
but it doesn't have this,
and it doesn't have the little dots.
- [Kristy] Hers is the girl one.
- [Gypsy] Mine's the girl one.
- [Rod] So they're not matching tattoos.
- [Gypsy] They're not identical! [Rod laughing]
- [Rod] At least it doesn't say Ken.
- [Gypsy] [laughs] No. It doesn't.
- [Joy] And this tat. What's up with the tat?
- [Ryan] That was too...
- [Joy] Don't wanna talk about it. Okay.
- [Ryan] That's one I don't like talking about.
- [Joy] All right.
- [Ryan] That was a scar that
I probably will never get over.
- [Joy] Probably so.
- [Ryan] That one was a scar that cut deep.
[pensive music]
- [Rod] I guess we're moving on to Ken.
I have to start accepting..
- [Kristy] Ken's a good guy.
I like, I've talked to him a lot more than you.
- [Rod] I'm not saying he's not a good guy.
- [Kristy] Right, you just,
I mean, she needed to find out who she was
without anybody else, and the way a lot of people see it is
what Ryan did was selfish on his part.
When she finally told me and I asked her straight up,
I said, "So you didn't want to come live here
because you were 32 years old
and you thought you would be a burden?"
She said yeah. - [Rod] Really?
- [Kristy] Mm-hmm.
That's the reason why she married him.
Did she wanna love him like he loved her? Of course.
But when it's not there, it's not there.
- [Rod] I feel like a failure now that..
We had all that time to make her feel like
she had a place to come to and she still didn't feel that.
- [Kristy] Look, if you would have said,
"I'm totally against it, no,"
that's what she wanted you to say.
She was craving that from you.
But you know how you said, like,
"I don't want to tell her what to do
because that's what her mom did"?
- [Rod] I'm just thinking about what you said,
about why she married Ryan.
[Rod sighing]
- [Kristy] It's a hard pill to swallow.
- [Rod] Well, I mean, I'm gonna try not to carry any guilt.
And I'm not gonna tell her no next time
if I don't like it, either.
She's gotta make her own decisions.
- [Kristy] You're right. You're right.
- [Rod] I'm not carrying that.
- [Kristy] But I know, right, exactly.
- [Rod] She might be mad right now, living here,
"Oh, I should have married Ryan"
if I cracked down and act like this hard ass daddy.
You know? "No, you gotta be home by 10 o'clock."
- [Kristy] Rod, we wouldn't have told her that, though.
We wouldn't have told her she had to be home by 10 o'clock.
- [Rod] Well--
- [Kristy] What the hell you talking about?
- [Rod] That's the kind of daddy that is, though.
The kind that says, "No, you can't get married,"
is the kind of daddy that says, "No,
you gotta be home by 10 o'clock."
- No, no, no. - I'm not that person.
- [Kristy] I know you're not that person.
Don't get mad at me!
- [Rod] I'm not, I'm just saying.
- [Kristy] No, dude, bro, let me tell you.
You take that anger out on his ass over there
in Lake Charles and not on me.
I saw your face, I saw your reaction. I know.
- [Rod] I'm just making a point. Sorry.
- [Kristy] Now you're freaking pissed.
And it's okay, but don't get mad at--
No, uh-uh, you throw that attitude somewheres else.
- You know, I feel guilty that I didn't tell her no.
'Cause I really didn't,
I really felt like it wasn't gonna work.
It was just the dynamics of her being,
you know, controlled all her life
and getting out and being free.
I mean, I don't know if it would have worked with Ken
when she comes out, you know?
So, I need to let her make that choice and we'll deal with,
I'm not gonna say I haven't learned from it,
I think I can probably be a little bit more honest
with her now, you know.
So I have some daddy issues that I have to deal with myself.
[pensive music]
[phone ringing]
- [Gypsy] Hey.
- [Ken] Hey, how's it going?
- [Gypsy] I'm good. Where you at?
- [Gypsy] Okay, that's not bad.
That'll be here in no time.
How are you feeling?
- [Gypsy] I been tracking you.
- [Gypsy] Mm-hmm.
- [Gypsy] And stalking you.
[light music]
- [Gypsy] This weekend, Dad, Kristy, me, and Ken
are all gonna go to Jazz Fest.
And we're just gonna have like a really nice weekend,
I'm very excited.
I haven't seen him since probably about three weeks ago.
[laughs] All right, well, drive safe.
- [Gypsy] Love you. Bye.
My hope is that Ken and I will
have that fairytale dream life
that we always wanted to have with each other.
But I'm only planning as far as a week.
You know, 'cause that's all you can do.
'Cause things always change.
He's on 21st. - [Kristy] He's right there.
Why?
- [Gypsy] I'm not nervous, I just--
- [Kristy] Nervous excited? - [Gypsy] Nervous excited.
- [Rod] I'm kinda struggling with how I'm gonna
handle this whole Ken scenario now that it's a thing.
You know, he broke her heart.
And I really never had any closure with that,
I never talked to him about it.
The relationship I have with Gypsy,
you know, I'm walking a line with her,
I don't wanna be too pushy, but be supportive
and you know, provide her with some good advice,
which I'm learning to do that.
- [Gypsy] This would be the first time my dad has seen Ken
since 2019.
My dad has always expressed that
it's not that he doesn't like Ken,
it's he didn't like how Ken broke my heart.
I think Ken's headspace is trying to get back
in my dad's good graces.
Trying to make up for that bridge that was kind of burned.
[tense music]
- [Kristy] There he is.
I wanna see Parker.
Where's Parker?
- [Gypsy] Hey! - [Ken] Hey, you.
[Gypsy squealing] [dog barking]
[smooches] Good to see you. - [Gypsy] You too.
- [Ken] Let me get Parker real quick.
- [Kristy] Yeah, get Parker. I want Parker.
- [Gypsy] Hey, buddy! - [Ken] Come on out, buddy.
- Hey, buddy.
- [Kristy] Parker! - [Gypsy] Miss me?
Parker, Parker!
He's like, "Where's Jas?"
- [Kristy] What you doing? Huh?
You wanna know who loves me? Parker loves me.
- [Ken] Yeah, he missed you.
Hey, Kristy. - [Kristy] Hey.
- [Ken] I like your hair. Looks good.
- [Kristy] Thank you. You smell good.
- [Ken] Oh, thanks. How's it going, Rod?
- [Gypsy] Oh, you're already shedding all over me.
- [Kristy] That's why I have the lint roller.
- [Gypsy] I made the mistake of wearing these pants.
[Ken chuckling] (bleep).
I'm gonna sit on you.
- [Ken] Okay, come here.
- [Rod] You did good. - [Ken] Yeah.
- [Rod] Just an hour late. - [Ken] Yeah.
- [Gypsy] You're wearing the cologne, I can tell.
- [Ken] I got it for you.
- [Rod] Okay, well, while we're all here,
I got a few things I wanna say.
- [Gypsy] Oh, boy. - [Ken] Okay.
- [Rod] First of all, thanks for coming.
Right? - [Ken] Thanks for having me.
- [Rod] I could tell last couple weeks
how happy Gypsy's been.
Kristy brought something up to me,
saying I wasn't telling Gypsy how I felt on everything,
you asked about marrying Ryan.
I may not have been completely honest with you.
I wanted to let you make that decision on your own.
I didn't want to make you feel like I was controlling you,
you know?
You made a mistake, I made a mistake. We're gonna move on.
And we're gonna be proud of it. Okay?
Ken.
You broke her heart once. Right?
That scares me a little bit still.
And I hope that doesn't happen again.
Gypsy, I want you to know,
you married Ryan, that's just a piece of paper, baby.
I don't want you to hide if you're in love.
If y'all are in love-- - [Kristy] Show it.
- [Rod] That's the best feeling in the world.
You were controlled your life, baby, your whole life.
Don't hide your feelings anymore, be you. Okay?
You know, your whole life was based on lies.
Let's start this off right.
If you're in love, tell the world.
"I love Ken.
So what, I got married. I made a mistake," baby.
And I'm not worried about how it looks
to the other people.
The biggest thing you lose is some respect from me,
your mom, your sister, your mom.
You know, that integrity is what matters.
Oh, and the last thing I wanted to say.
She wants a baby.
- [Gypsy] What?!
- [Rod] I can tell, bro.
[Kristy laughing] - [Gypsy] What?
Where did this come from?
- [Kristy] I don't know.
- [Rod] I'm gonna tell both of y'all, just wait. Okay?
Make sure y'all give y'all relationship a chance
to develop without the stress of--
- [Kristy] Well, one baby. - [Rod] Additional burden, okay?
- [Gypsy] We'll have babies--
- [Rod] I mean, I want a baby, too.
You know, I'm not gonna lie.
I want a little grandkid, but you know,
I don't want to be raising one.
[laughing]
- [Kristy] We want it where it can go back home.
[Gypsy laughing] - [Rod] Please, please.
I'm gonna be really disappointed.
- [Ken] No, I 100% agree with you on that.
It's definitely, you know.
- [Kristy] Y'all enjoy each other first and foremost.
- [Ken] In time. - [Gypsy] Lots of time.
[tense music]
So it is the end of May and I am late on my period.
So I texted Ken and I'm like joking with him,
I'm like "Well, I guess you've been spared
my PMS for the month, 'cause I guess I'm not gonna,
I skipped a period."
So he's like, "Or, maybe..."
And I'm like, "No," like, [scoffs].
And he's like, he gave me like the big eye emoji.
I'll go and take a test.
So I go in the bathroom, I take the test.
And it came back positive.
[pensive music]
- [exhales] Okay.
I'm breathing.
My first thought is "My dad's gonna kill me!" [laughs]
'Cause he had just said, like, "I know you want a baby,
but I would prefer you guys wait."
Yep, two positive tests.
Not just one, two.
- Oh, he was happy, like he had to take a moment,
like he took an hour, we had a good FaceTime call,
he was excited, all smiles.
And then like he had to process for an hour.
And then he calls me back and he starts like,
he's happy crying and I'm like,
"Aw, I've never heard you like cry before." [laughs]
I've been having a lot of anxiety.
Because it's like,
I wanna make sure I'm doing everything right.
There's too many what-ifs
and I can't go into that rabbit hole.
[pensive music]
How have I changed in the last seven years?
- [Ken] You're more transparent. - [Gypsy] Mm-hmm.
- I mean, you're still the same impulsive,
like do what you want type person, it's a good thing.
- [Gypsy] Are you gonna remind yourself of that
when things get hard?
- [Ken] How much more rough could it get?
- Rough. - Okay.
We'll figure it out.
- [Gypsy] All right, are we done? [laughs]
[Ken and Gypsy laughing]
- [Ken] Everything's gonna be just fine, okay?
[tense music]
- [Producer] Did she tell you? What was it like?
Can you give me a little snapshot?
- [Ryan] [sighs] I mean, I don't know what to think.
You know, a month before, right after she left,
Gypsy texted me a bunch of pregnancy tests
and said she was pregnant.
Okay, well, who's the father?
It could have been me or Ken at that point.
So, she didn't know.
She was like, "I don't know."
The previous month, she sent me pictures of pregnancy tests.
But this time, there's no pictures.
No proof, so like, I don't know what to believe.
Like, it's one of those I don't believe it, I still don't.
You know, it's hard for me to wrap my head around that.
Like, secretly Gypsy and me were trying to get pregnant.
Well, Gypsy always wanted to be pregnant.
It's so confusing. Such a confusing time for me.
Like, my world's in turmoil.
- [Producer] What happens next, for you?
- [Ryan] I have no idea.
My mind is mush a lot and Gypsy said the same thing to me.
She doesn't know up from down sometimes.
But like, we always had each other.
Gypsy's always come back to me.
You know, I mean, I do love her enough to
want her to be happy, but you know,
is she that happy?
I mean, if she still contacts me, is she that happy?
[pensive music]
- [Gypsy] I'm scared that I bring a certain level of drama
to his life that I don't mean to bring.
It just, it's like my baggage.
He could leave me right now,
and it's completely out of my control.
And that's scary, it was scary back then
and it's still scary now.
But he has my heart, and I can't control that.
- Yeah.
I mean, I trust that he loves me,
I trust that I love him,
but that fear is there.
And right now, I just think I'm happy again.
And I don't wanna do anything to mess it up.