1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,167 - [Ken] It's a once in a lifetime feeling, 2 00:00:03,167 --> 00:00:04,917 I think when you hold your firstborn child 3 00:00:04,917 --> 00:00:06,167 - [Gypsy] On her birth certificate, 4 00:00:06,167 --> 00:00:08,208 Ryan is listed as the father. 5 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:10,708 - [Ryan] I realized how early Aurora was. 6 00:00:10,708 --> 00:00:14,083 You know, you do the math, I mean it's too close for comfort 7 00:00:14,083 --> 00:00:15,583 - Through the duration of my parole, 8 00:00:15,583 --> 00:00:19,833 I can't live with Ken unless we're married. 9 00:00:19,833 --> 00:00:21,792 I had been hit with the question, 10 00:00:21,792 --> 00:00:26,708 how are you gonna tell your daughter about what you did? 11 00:00:26,708 --> 00:00:28,875 I just feel like I've been trying to figure it out 12 00:00:28,875 --> 00:00:30,417 all on my own. 13 00:00:30,417 --> 00:00:34,167 Ken, he's here physically and gone emotionally. 14 00:00:34,167 --> 00:00:36,708 I had a conversation with Ryan. 15 00:00:36,708 --> 00:00:38,083 We might have lunch. 16 00:00:38,083 --> 00:00:39,542 - I don't think it's a good idea. 17 00:00:39,542 --> 00:00:41,667 - This is the first picture Gypsy sent me of Aurora 18 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:43,708 where I was kind of like, might be mine. 19 00:00:43,708 --> 00:00:46,625 You know what's funny is she sent me a glamour shot before. 20 00:00:51,458 --> 00:00:52,833 - Well, of course. 21 00:00:52,833 --> 00:00:55,542 [intense music] 22 00:00:57,042 --> 00:00:59,542 [eerie music] 23 00:01:09,875 --> 00:01:12,917 - Yesterday, Ryan and I had a conversation on the phone 24 00:01:12,917 --> 00:01:15,750 for the first time in six months. 25 00:01:15,750 --> 00:01:17,000 It went really well. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,750 It really was civil. 27 00:01:20,375 --> 00:01:24,208 The way we bantered, it really felt like a friendship 28 00:01:24,208 --> 00:01:29,292 and of course we talked business for post-divorce 29 00:01:29,958 --> 00:01:31,250 and paternity stuff. 30 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:32,542 You know, I was real with him. 31 00:01:32,542 --> 00:01:35,958 I'm like, "I feel like your lawyer and you 32 00:01:35,958 --> 00:01:39,083 are holding this whole situation up." 33 00:01:39,083 --> 00:01:41,375 We agreed to meet each other 34 00:01:41,375 --> 00:01:43,542 at the same place at the same time 35 00:01:43,542 --> 00:01:46,833 and it just be me, him and Aurora. 36 00:01:46,833 --> 00:01:48,583 And we can take the test, 37 00:01:48,583 --> 00:01:53,625 we could talk and have a nice interaction. 38 00:01:53,625 --> 00:01:56,292 Ken was at work last night, but I did text him. 39 00:01:56,292 --> 00:01:59,208 I told him everything that was communicated 40 00:01:59,208 --> 00:02:02,083 and Ryan and his lawyer could have accepted the test 41 00:02:02,083 --> 00:02:03,542 that's already been taken, 42 00:02:03,542 --> 00:02:06,583 but Ryan does not wanna acknowledge it. 43 00:02:06,583 --> 00:02:10,208 So if they need this, then I'm gonna give it to them. 44 00:02:11,208 --> 00:02:13,750 [eerie music] 45 00:02:24,292 --> 00:02:26,292 - [Ken] Gypsy's been gone all week 46 00:02:26,292 --> 00:02:28,583 and my little Aurora hasn't been home 47 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:30,083 and it definitely feels a lot more depressing 48 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:31,250 around the house. 49 00:02:31,250 --> 00:02:33,667 Like I feel like I have no purpose 50 00:02:33,667 --> 00:02:35,625 during the daytime before I go to work. 51 00:02:35,625 --> 00:02:38,583 Just kind of finding things to occupy my time. 52 00:02:38,583 --> 00:02:39,500 It's very lonely. 53 00:02:45,792 --> 00:02:47,375 - She didn't call me about anything, she texted me, 54 00:02:48,875 --> 00:02:50,750 and just told me, "Hey, we're doing another paternity test. 55 00:02:50,750 --> 00:02:52,333 We don't know when, 56 00:02:52,333 --> 00:02:56,208 but you know, it's gonna happen sometime this week or next." 57 00:02:56,208 --> 00:03:00,083 And yeah, well Ryan's gonna be driving down 58 00:03:00,083 --> 00:03:02,292 to do paternity tests 59 00:03:02,292 --> 00:03:04,875 because he can't accept the one that we've already done 60 00:03:06,042 --> 00:03:08,042 because he wasn't tested. 61 00:03:08,042 --> 00:03:11,292 Even though it's all there, black and white, 62 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:12,708 clear as crystal, 63 00:03:12,708 --> 00:03:14,958 he doesn't have to be tested for it to be done. 64 00:03:14,958 --> 00:03:18,958 But you know, I guess that denial is a crazy thing. 65 00:03:18,958 --> 00:03:20,083 I don't know. 66 00:03:20,083 --> 00:03:21,583 It's just, whatever, you know? 67 00:03:21,583 --> 00:03:23,583 So we just got a lot to talk about. 68 00:03:23,583 --> 00:03:26,333 There's a lot of loose ends right now. 69 00:03:26,333 --> 00:03:28,667 This is all very, I just heard about this last night. 70 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:32,542 Like I don't even know the full story yet, so. 71 00:03:36,875 --> 00:03:39,708 - I don't think I'm gonna let that happen. 72 00:03:39,708 --> 00:03:42,250 It's just the fact that like we're dragging Aurora 73 00:03:42,250 --> 00:03:45,250 through the mud on this when she doesn't need to be. 74 00:03:45,250 --> 00:03:46,667 Like it's more damaging to the healing process 75 00:03:46,667 --> 00:03:49,500 than to just keep stretching this out 76 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,500 longer and longer and longer. 77 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:53,250 You know, you go do what you need to do, 78 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:55,375 but you're not bringing my daughter in this mess. 79 00:03:55,375 --> 00:03:56,708 Aurora's not gonna be there. 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,750 Gypsy wants her to go off and do it, that's fine. 81 00:03:59,750 --> 00:04:00,875 I can bring in Aurora, 82 00:04:00,875 --> 00:04:03,042 she can give her a sample at a different time. 83 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:06,125 There's no need for her to be there in the mix of that. 84 00:04:06,125 --> 00:04:08,625 So I'm not gonna involve her in that mix 85 00:04:08,625 --> 00:04:11,000 if I can do something about it. 86 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,417 [sad music] 87 00:04:17,125 --> 00:04:19,667 [somber music] 88 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:26,208 - [Gypsy] I see this is a new car. 89 00:04:26,208 --> 00:04:27,417 - [Ms. Bev] It is. 90 00:04:27,417 --> 00:04:29,208 I hope it's not too big for you. 91 00:04:29,208 --> 00:04:31,375 - [Gypsy] It's a little different. 92 00:04:31,375 --> 00:04:32,917 - You're gonna sign in print 93 00:04:34,333 --> 00:04:36,708 and this is to do your road skills test. 94 00:04:36,708 --> 00:04:39,083 - [Gypsy] Today, I am taking the final test 95 00:04:39,083 --> 00:04:40,958 for my driver's education. 96 00:04:42,958 --> 00:04:44,208 - Nervous. 97 00:04:44,208 --> 00:04:46,000 I mean, I always kind of doubt myself 98 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,375 and second guess myself. 99 00:04:47,375 --> 00:04:50,500 Just like whenever I was taking the GED test 100 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:52,333 while I was in prison, I'm always like, 101 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:54,292 can I do this? 102 00:04:54,292 --> 00:04:57,917 It's almost like I'm mind warping myself 103 00:04:57,917 --> 00:04:59,542 into doubting myself. 104 00:04:59,542 --> 00:05:00,708 - Okay, we're gonna reverse 105 00:05:00,708 --> 00:05:02,167 and we're gonna go to the highway. 106 00:05:02,167 --> 00:05:03,875 - All right. 107 00:05:03,875 --> 00:05:04,875 - [Ms. Bev] Put your foot on your brake 108 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:06,042 always to change gear. 109 00:05:06,042 --> 00:05:07,542 - Okay, that was... 110 00:05:07,542 --> 00:05:10,250 - That's not good. - That was not the brake. 111 00:05:10,250 --> 00:05:12,083 - That's why it wasn't changing, okay. 112 00:05:12,083 --> 00:05:15,542 - I think it's a big step for independence on her 113 00:05:15,542 --> 00:05:18,458 where she can, you know, feel like she's grown 114 00:05:18,458 --> 00:05:20,125 and she's doing her own thing. 115 00:05:20,125 --> 00:05:23,542 She can take on whatever comes her way. 116 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:26,875 [gentle intense music] 117 00:05:32,333 --> 00:05:35,083 All right, she made it out the driveway. 118 00:05:35,083 --> 00:05:36,542 That's good. 119 00:05:36,542 --> 00:05:38,292 - So what we do is we're gonna drive all the way 120 00:05:38,292 --> 00:05:39,500 to Golden Meadow, 121 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:40,792 we'll come back like we did last time, 122 00:05:40,792 --> 00:05:43,500 crossing the bridges and when we get to LaRose, 123 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:45,125 we're gonna hit that back road. 124 00:05:45,125 --> 00:05:46,458 - [Gypsy] Okay. 125 00:05:46,458 --> 00:05:48,292 [intense music] 126 00:05:48,292 --> 00:05:51,625 I wanna be able to drive and be more independent 127 00:05:51,625 --> 00:05:52,875 so I can be there for Aurora, 128 00:05:52,875 --> 00:05:55,083 but I could also go and drive myself 129 00:05:55,083 --> 00:05:57,375 and have a life as well. 130 00:05:57,375 --> 00:06:00,958 I can't allow myself to not have my own identity. 131 00:06:00,958 --> 00:06:04,500 I feel like, you know, that's where my mom screwed up. 132 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:07,708 I was her whole life, her whole existence, 133 00:06:07,708 --> 00:06:10,500 and she didn't have an identity for herself. 134 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:11,875 - We're gonna go straight. 135 00:06:11,875 --> 00:06:12,875 - Okay. 136 00:06:12,875 --> 00:06:14,458 I'm finding that spot 137 00:06:14,458 --> 00:06:18,708 and that space where I'm still growing as an individual, 138 00:06:18,708 --> 00:06:21,750 while also being a good mom to my daughter. 139 00:06:22,750 --> 00:06:24,875 - We're gonna go over the overpass. 140 00:06:24,875 --> 00:06:26,250 - Okay. 141 00:06:26,250 --> 00:06:27,708 - We're gonna go ahead and do a left turn off. 142 00:06:27,708 --> 00:06:30,875 So turn signal on, braking, braking. 143 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:32,417 We'll go straight at the caution light. 144 00:06:32,417 --> 00:06:34,333 If we have yellow, your cross street, has red. 145 00:06:34,333 --> 00:06:37,167 Very good on your lane control and your following distance. 146 00:06:37,167 --> 00:06:40,125 We'll take a right at the light when it's safe. 147 00:06:40,125 --> 00:06:44,167 [gentle intense music] 148 00:06:44,167 --> 00:06:46,375 And we will take a left. 149 00:06:46,375 --> 00:06:48,583 I guess we'll park next to the Wagoneer. 150 00:06:49,458 --> 00:06:53,375 [gentle intense music] 151 00:06:53,375 --> 00:06:55,375 Keep rolling and stop. 152 00:06:57,750 --> 00:07:02,792 All right, Miss Gypsy. - All righty. 153 00:07:03,792 --> 00:07:04,792 [car door shuts] 154 00:07:05,708 --> 00:07:08,333 - All right, Miss Gypsy, I don't want you to get discouraged 155 00:07:08,333 --> 00:07:10,333 'cause not many people pass the first time. 156 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:11,625 - Okay. 157 00:07:11,625 --> 00:07:13,042 - But you did. - Yay. 158 00:07:13,042 --> 00:07:14,917 [gentle triumphant music] 159 00:07:14,917 --> 00:07:16,917 - Your score was a 90. 160 00:07:16,917 --> 00:07:18,042 - Nice. 161 00:07:18,042 --> 00:07:19,583 - The problem you had was turn signals. 162 00:07:19,583 --> 00:07:21,167 You're turning 'em on too soon. 163 00:07:21,167 --> 00:07:22,042 - Okay. - Just remember, 164 00:07:22,042 --> 00:07:24,042 light posts till you turn. 165 00:07:24,042 --> 00:07:25,042 - I passed. 166 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:28,083 [gentle triumphant music] 167 00:07:28,083 --> 00:07:29,542 I did it. 168 00:07:29,542 --> 00:07:31,625 I was so scared. 169 00:07:31,625 --> 00:07:33,375 Okay. - It's been a pleasure. 170 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:34,458 - Thank you so much. - You're welcome 171 00:07:34,458 --> 00:07:35,583 and good luck on your future. 172 00:07:35,583 --> 00:07:37,292 One more hug. - Thank you so much. 173 00:07:37,292 --> 00:07:37,625 - All right, sweetie. 174 00:07:38,042 --> 00:07:38,333 - All right, sweetie. 175 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:40,583 - I'm pretty sure my whole face was just like 176 00:07:40,583 --> 00:07:42,458 staring at the road. 177 00:07:42,458 --> 00:07:45,417 Like, please remember everything all at once. 178 00:07:46,542 --> 00:07:48,708 I'm just happy that I got to this milestone 179 00:07:48,708 --> 00:07:53,000 and I'm okay with making these milestones at 33. 180 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,708 [gentle music] 181 00:07:59,833 --> 00:08:02,667 [intense music] 182 00:08:10,625 --> 00:08:14,375 - I had plans to go with Aurora 183 00:08:14,375 --> 00:08:17,583 and meet with Ryan at a lab 184 00:08:17,583 --> 00:08:20,042 where we could all give our results at the same place 185 00:08:20,042 --> 00:08:21,208 at the same time, 186 00:08:22,458 --> 00:08:26,250 but Ken had high reservations against it 187 00:08:27,125 --> 00:08:28,458 and gave me an ultimatum 188 00:08:28,458 --> 00:08:30,875 that if I was going to meet with Ryan, 189 00:08:30,875 --> 00:08:34,125 that our relationship would be in jeopardy. 190 00:08:34,125 --> 00:08:36,375 [intense music] 191 00:08:36,375 --> 00:08:40,333 I think in the moment, high emotions took hold 192 00:08:40,333 --> 00:08:42,833 and he said some things that he regrets, 193 00:08:44,708 --> 00:08:47,167 like saying he would move back to Texas 194 00:08:47,167 --> 00:08:49,625 and file for custody of Aurora. 195 00:08:50,542 --> 00:08:53,167 [intense music] 196 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:57,875 That really put me in a corner. 197 00:09:00,208 --> 00:09:05,167 I wasn't gonna risk losing my family just to, you know, 198 00:09:06,125 --> 00:09:07,708 meet with Ryan face to face 199 00:09:07,708 --> 00:09:10,875 whenever there could be other ways of giving our samples. 200 00:09:12,542 --> 00:09:15,167 [intense music] 201 00:09:16,625 --> 00:09:21,750 I would've liked to have a moment to ourselves 202 00:09:23,042 --> 00:09:25,875 to where we could have had this sort of closure moment. 203 00:09:27,917 --> 00:09:30,083 I would've liked to see him again 204 00:09:30,083 --> 00:09:35,208 so we could end on amicable and positive terms. 205 00:09:36,625 --> 00:09:38,667 I still kind of feel like the way things ended, 206 00:09:38,667 --> 00:09:41,792 there's no way to kinda make it better. 207 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:46,083 But I really have to weigh my options. 208 00:09:46,083 --> 00:09:50,417 Am I gonna have this friendly moment with Ryan 209 00:09:50,417 --> 00:09:53,542 or am I going to have the family 210 00:09:53,542 --> 00:09:55,208 that I have created for myself? 211 00:09:57,292 --> 00:10:02,375 And I'm just not gonna risk losing that family. 212 00:10:02,375 --> 00:10:05,708 [intense music] 213 00:10:05,708 --> 00:10:07,333 [Aurora cries] 214 00:10:07,333 --> 00:10:09,958 [calm music] 215 00:10:23,250 --> 00:10:25,667 - I know that I don't look like the most compassionate 216 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:27,042 person in this situation 217 00:10:27,042 --> 00:10:29,833 and I totally am very self aware of that, 218 00:10:29,833 --> 00:10:32,917 but I wouldn't be saying this or feeling this way at all 219 00:10:32,917 --> 00:10:35,375 if the paternity test hasn't already been done. 220 00:10:35,375 --> 00:10:36,875 We already have it in our hands. 221 00:10:36,875 --> 00:10:39,958 It's been done by a credible laboratory. 222 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:42,583 Getting so big. 223 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:44,958 [Aurora coos] 224 00:10:44,958 --> 00:10:45,958 Oh, I know. 225 00:10:47,333 --> 00:10:50,958 I think that most of my reactions just stem from me 226 00:10:50,958 --> 00:10:53,042 just wanting to keep Aurora safe 227 00:10:53,042 --> 00:10:54,875 from all of this unnecessary drama 228 00:10:54,875 --> 00:10:58,125 and protecting Gypsy's emotional state from this as well. 229 00:10:58,125 --> 00:11:00,917 I see the best version of Gypsy when she's moving forward 230 00:11:00,917 --> 00:11:02,375 than to have to keep looking back 231 00:11:02,375 --> 00:11:04,958 and keep muddying up the waters 232 00:11:04,958 --> 00:11:06,625 that don't need to be muddied. 233 00:11:09,792 --> 00:11:11,625 All right, baby, I gotta go to work. 234 00:11:12,875 --> 00:11:14,833 Sorry we couldn't spend more time together, 235 00:11:14,833 --> 00:11:16,917 but this weekend's gonna be crazy for me. 236 00:11:17,542 --> 00:11:18,875 I love you. 237 00:11:21,208 --> 00:11:23,042 - [Ken] You can't wait for me to get home tonight. 238 00:11:27,417 --> 00:11:29,792 - [Ken] No, I'm saying that you can't wait here for me. 239 00:11:32,625 --> 00:11:33,792 - [Ken] All right. 240 00:11:36,083 --> 00:11:37,083 Okay, bye. 241 00:11:38,042 --> 00:11:41,208 [gentle somber music] [door opening and shutting] 242 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:46,083 [traffic buzzing] 243 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:51,083 - [Gypsy] I am going back home today 244 00:11:51,083 --> 00:11:54,083 and I won't see Ken for a while again. 245 00:11:56,375 --> 00:11:57,292 - Rough. 246 00:11:58,625 --> 00:12:00,125 It's been rough. 247 00:12:00,125 --> 00:12:02,542 Everything is day by day right now. 248 00:12:02,542 --> 00:12:05,167 So we're just winging it. 249 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:09,042 It's hard to kind of keep up a relationship 250 00:12:09,042 --> 00:12:11,208 whenever you're living in two separate places 251 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:16,333 and you've got schedules that interfere 252 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,500 and I think I'm very clear 253 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:20,917 about what my needs are. 254 00:12:20,917 --> 00:12:22,708 I want cuddles, I want snuggles, 255 00:12:22,708 --> 00:12:25,875 I want words of affirmation. 256 00:12:25,875 --> 00:12:28,292 For Ken, it's like he doesn't think about 257 00:12:28,292 --> 00:12:29,667 anything like that. 258 00:12:29,667 --> 00:12:30,667 I don't get it. 259 00:12:30,667 --> 00:12:32,292 You might feel love. 260 00:12:32,292 --> 00:12:33,500 Yeah, you love me. 261 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:37,208 Okay, you say you love me, but you don't show it. 262 00:12:37,208 --> 00:12:41,208 I feel like more distant than ever. 263 00:12:41,208 --> 00:12:43,250 He thought everything was going great, 264 00:12:44,417 --> 00:12:46,083 but then when you get down like the nitty gritty, 265 00:12:46,083 --> 00:12:49,000 it's kind of like, okay, then stop fooling yourself. 266 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,583 Like, is it gone for you? 267 00:12:52,583 --> 00:12:52,833 Like, is it gone for you? 268 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:57,708 Like the spark, the flame, 269 00:12:57,708 --> 00:13:01,208 the energy, you know what I'm saying? 270 00:13:01,208 --> 00:13:04,875 So I think a lot of things just drained us. 271 00:13:06,792 --> 00:13:10,875 We need to have more communication 272 00:13:12,708 --> 00:13:15,292 and I think that like we both just need to like 273 00:13:15,292 --> 00:13:19,875 open up more about realistic expectations of each other. 274 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:22,417 [gentle music] [Aurora coos] 275 00:13:27,458 --> 00:13:30,417 [gentle music] 276 00:13:37,208 --> 00:13:39,792 - I texted Ryan and I was like, "I can't meet with you. 277 00:13:39,792 --> 00:13:40,792 I'm sorry. 278 00:13:40,792 --> 00:13:44,417 This is where we're at with it, 279 00:13:44,417 --> 00:13:46,083 Ken doesn't feel comfortable 280 00:13:46,083 --> 00:13:50,875 and he has that right seeing as how he is her father." 281 00:13:50,875 --> 00:13:55,042 And he just kind of blew up on me. 282 00:13:57,333 --> 00:14:01,208 - His, Ryan's ultimatum to me was either meet with me 283 00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:03,333 or she stays in Anderson forever. 284 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:05,875 [intense music] 285 00:14:05,875 --> 00:14:08,958 He feels like that was a power play card. 286 00:14:08,958 --> 00:14:12,958 Like that's a trump card that Ken is the father, 287 00:14:12,958 --> 00:14:15,042 the biological father, but he's the father on the, 288 00:14:15,042 --> 00:14:16,875 you know, Ryan's the father on the birth certificate 289 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:20,833 that he has legal rights to Aurora 290 00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:23,375 and he's playing that card 291 00:14:23,375 --> 00:14:26,083 and that leaves me in a position to kind of wonder, 292 00:14:27,042 --> 00:14:30,458 what are his rights, if any? 293 00:14:30,458 --> 00:14:35,208 After a string of texts that made me uncomfortable 294 00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:38,375 and I was trying to defuse the situation, 295 00:14:38,375 --> 00:14:42,583 I said, "Okay, I am not gonna be texting you anymore." 296 00:14:42,583 --> 00:14:44,375 And I feel like if I would, 297 00:14:44,375 --> 00:14:46,625 it would just make the situation worse. 298 00:14:46,625 --> 00:14:49,042 So I did call my lawyer right away 299 00:14:49,042 --> 00:14:51,875 and I was like, I want to know the situation we're in. 300 00:14:51,875 --> 00:14:54,458 Does he have a right to her or not? 301 00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:56,250 And it turns out he doesn't. 302 00:14:56,250 --> 00:14:58,875 He may be the father on the birth certificate, 303 00:14:58,875 --> 00:15:01,000 but that doesn't mean he has parental rights. 304 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,417 She gave me the advice of we could do a court order 305 00:15:05,417 --> 00:15:07,375 to establish paternity. 306 00:15:07,375 --> 00:15:10,083 And I said, "Yes, can we please do that?" 307 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:13,667 A test will be taken, a hearing will be had 308 00:15:13,667 --> 00:15:16,792 and the court will observe the test 309 00:15:16,792 --> 00:15:19,208 and then we'll go from there. 310 00:15:19,208 --> 00:15:20,875 And I guess it's wrapped after that, 311 00:15:20,875 --> 00:15:22,417 paternity is established. 312 00:15:23,375 --> 00:15:26,167 [intense music] 313 00:15:49,375 --> 00:15:54,458 The plan for today is we're gonna go to my lawyer's office 314 00:15:55,542 --> 00:15:59,083 and Ken has to file to establish paternity. 315 00:15:59,083 --> 00:16:01,833 Her assistant gave me a call this morning 316 00:16:01,833 --> 00:16:03,583 and I paid the fee. 317 00:16:04,583 --> 00:16:07,708 Now I asked if that fee included another test 318 00:16:07,708 --> 00:16:10,042 or if that's extra. 319 00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:14,583 And her explanation was it can be included, 320 00:16:14,583 --> 00:16:18,375 depending on how much trouble Ryan gives us. 321 00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:22,250 - Which as we've seen, will be a lot, I'm sure. 322 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:24,292 - [sighing] He just a dick right now. He's being a dick. 323 00:16:24,292 --> 00:16:26,792 - Yeah, showing his true colors. 324 00:16:26,792 --> 00:16:27,958 - [Ken] 100%. - He has been 325 00:16:27,958 --> 00:16:29,208 for a while though. 326 00:16:29,208 --> 00:16:31,958 - Yeah, I'm not gonna let him use my kid 327 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:33,750 as a chess piece. 328 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:34,792 - Nope. - No. 329 00:16:34,792 --> 00:16:36,750 [gentle intense music] 330 00:16:36,750 --> 00:16:41,000 There's a part of me that understands why Ryan reacted 331 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,292 the way he did 332 00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:45,250 and it's because he wanted to see me, 333 00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:46,542 because he still loves me. 334 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:49,042 - I love you. 335 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:50,208 - [Gypsy] Ryan always made me feel seen, 336 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:54,167 he always saw the person underneath, 337 00:16:54,167 --> 00:16:57,250 the emotions, the past. 338 00:16:57,250 --> 00:17:02,250 But at this point in time, we cannot be friends. 339 00:17:03,042 --> 00:17:04,250 If the roles were in reverse, 340 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:06,625 how would I feel if Ken was talking to an ex? 341 00:17:07,875 --> 00:17:09,250 - I have no desire to deal with somebody 342 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:11,375 who's in just complete denial of the situation. 343 00:17:11,375 --> 00:17:12,875 Like we have- - [Kristy] I got bail money. 344 00:17:12,875 --> 00:17:14,167 - Huh? - [Kristy] I got the bail money. 345 00:17:14,167 --> 00:17:15,917 - [Gege] I've got your back. - I'll catch a charge 346 00:17:15,917 --> 00:17:17,083 for my kid, that's for sure. 347 00:17:17,083 --> 00:17:19,667 - Oh, me too, I'll catch a charge. 348 00:17:19,667 --> 00:17:20,583 You know? - So we're not 349 00:17:20,583 --> 00:17:21,250 gonna deal with this. 350 00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:23,375 We're not gonna, nope. 351 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,208 We're just gonna go home to Metairie 352 00:17:26,208 --> 00:17:27,833 and to do this the right way through the court system 353 00:17:27,833 --> 00:17:29,958 like adults and he can act like a baby all he wants. 354 00:17:29,958 --> 00:17:31,250 I don't care. - Yeah. 355 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:34,875 Because yesterday I felt like I was in the middle 356 00:17:34,875 --> 00:17:37,917 and I'm like, I had you texting me, 357 00:17:37,917 --> 00:17:41,083 I had him going on a rant, 358 00:17:41,083 --> 00:17:44,708 and I'm like, like let's just all calm down. 359 00:17:46,208 --> 00:17:49,375 Okay, we could all be civil and be adults about this. 360 00:17:51,167 --> 00:17:53,708 The fact is we need to have this test done. 361 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:56,500 It's his lawyer and Ryan saying that the test 362 00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:59,458 that we already took was not good enough. 363 00:17:59,458 --> 00:18:02,958 They want a test post-birth. 364 00:18:02,958 --> 00:18:04,417 - It's an unfortunate situation 365 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,542 but you know, we'll just have to get through it 366 00:18:06,542 --> 00:18:07,708 and we will. 367 00:18:07,708 --> 00:18:09,375 [intense music] 368 00:18:09,375 --> 00:18:10,833 Gypsy told me everything, 369 00:18:10,833 --> 00:18:12,667 the threats he's making. 370 00:18:12,667 --> 00:18:15,375 So we're just gonna handle this as quickly as we can. 371 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:17,167 You can call me an [bleep] if you want, 372 00:18:17,167 --> 00:18:20,083 but I'm not gonna sit here and babysit the delusions 373 00:18:20,083 --> 00:18:21,708 of a man almost 10 years older than me. 374 00:18:21,708 --> 00:18:24,208 We're gonna shut it down and we're gonna move forward. 375 00:18:26,292 --> 00:18:29,083 [gentle music] 376 00:18:38,875 --> 00:18:42,333 [engine buzzing] 377 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:46,250 - [Ryan] We are headed to my attorney's office. 378 00:18:50,708 --> 00:18:52,208 - Just the next step. 379 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:54,125 It's just, where do we go from here? 380 00:18:57,292 --> 00:18:59,208 Randy's a straight shooter. 381 00:18:59,208 --> 00:19:00,667 Randy will tell you straight up 382 00:19:00,667 --> 00:19:02,375 and like I've left his office being like, 383 00:19:02,375 --> 00:19:04,875 okay, maybe that's how it actually is, you know? 384 00:19:04,875 --> 00:19:06,208 Because like I said last night, 385 00:19:06,208 --> 00:19:08,958 maybe I'm delusional, you know? 386 00:19:08,958 --> 00:19:11,667 [intense music] 387 00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:16,917 - All right, let's get this party started, 388 00:19:16,917 --> 00:19:17,958 even though it just ended. 389 00:19:17,958 --> 00:19:19,500 - It's hard on me too 390 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:22,042 'cause it's like every time I feel like 391 00:19:22,042 --> 00:19:24,292 I get to a place that like, 392 00:19:25,417 --> 00:19:29,417 I feel like we could be at a good place 393 00:19:29,417 --> 00:19:32,917 and maybe even like friendly towards each other, 394 00:19:32,917 --> 00:19:36,292 like drama comes into the mix. 395 00:19:36,292 --> 00:19:37,542 - It's unfortunate. 396 00:19:38,958 --> 00:19:41,000 Sometimes it's just happens in life. 397 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,625 It's not the first time it's happened to somebody, you know? 398 00:19:46,542 --> 00:19:48,958 - [Gypsy] I'm sorry I didn't listen to you. 399 00:19:48,958 --> 00:19:50,167 - [Ken] Don't be sorry. 400 00:19:51,125 --> 00:19:52,708 I know you had good intentions. 401 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:58,208 It's a shame it couldn't be that way though. 402 00:19:59,875 --> 00:20:03,208 - [Gypsy] My good intentions always seem to backfire on me. 403 00:20:03,208 --> 00:20:05,500 - [Ken] Mm-hmm. 404 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:09,208 - Gypsy] Like I try to approach situations with a kind heart 405 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:12,167 and a level of understanding that, 406 00:20:12,167 --> 00:20:14,500 you know, maybe someone in a biased situation, 407 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,208 like you for example, 408 00:20:18,417 --> 00:20:21,792 wouldn't understand and I don't know. 409 00:20:21,792 --> 00:20:24,500 I just get proven wrong all the time. 410 00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:27,333 - You do your best, that's what matters. 411 00:20:30,250 --> 00:20:32,125 And then we're all human, we mess up sometimes, 412 00:20:32,125 --> 00:20:35,500 and do things we shouldn't. 413 00:20:36,708 --> 00:20:39,917 But you've got a good heart and it shows. 414 00:20:40,958 --> 00:20:42,958 - [Gypsy] Thank you. 415 00:20:42,958 --> 00:20:46,292 [gentle somber music] 416 00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:52,000 [car door bangs] 417 00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:56,500 [gentle somber music] 418 00:21:01,667 --> 00:21:04,375 [gentle music] 419 00:21:05,292 --> 00:21:06,833 - Where am I going? 420 00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:08,250 Hey, how you doing? 421 00:21:08,250 --> 00:21:09,792 Oh, it's toasty in here. 422 00:21:09,792 --> 00:21:10,792 - Yeah. - I'm good. 423 00:21:10,792 --> 00:21:11,875 - Mr. Ryan? - Yeah. 424 00:21:11,875 --> 00:21:13,542 - [Receptionist] Okay, he'll be right with you. 425 00:21:13,542 --> 00:21:14,250 - [Ryan] Okay, thank you. - [Receptionist] You're welcome. 426 00:21:15,333 --> 00:21:16,458 - Jeff. How you doing, buddy? 427 00:21:16,458 --> 00:21:17,583 - [Jeff] You all right? - Yeah. 428 00:21:17,583 --> 00:21:18,458 - [Jeff] Come on. - [Randy] Hey. Ryan. 429 00:21:18,458 --> 00:21:19,542 - Randy, what's going on buddy? 430 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:20,708 I'm good. - Good to see you. 431 00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:22,042 - It's good to see you, bud. 432 00:21:22,042 --> 00:21:24,792 [intense music] 433 00:21:25,958 --> 00:21:28,000 - So as you know, our state has that law 434 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,542 where the child is born within a certain timeframe 435 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:34,958 after your divorce, you're still presumed to be the father. 436 00:21:34,958 --> 00:21:37,083 So the predicament now 437 00:21:37,083 --> 00:21:39,083 is that you have a birth certificate 438 00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:41,500 where the child has your last name 439 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:43,458 and you're listed as the biological father 440 00:21:43,458 --> 00:21:44,750 and you may not be. 441 00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:47,875 Gypsy did the in utero test, 442 00:21:47,875 --> 00:21:50,542 which in my 20-year career, I've never had one in a case. 443 00:21:50,542 --> 00:21:53,208 Normally the parties wait till the baby is born 444 00:21:53,208 --> 00:21:54,875 and they do a post-birth DNA test. 445 00:21:54,875 --> 00:21:57,542 There's not much precedent for an in utero test. 446 00:21:57,542 --> 00:22:00,000 And knowing that Ryan was unfortunately or fortunately 447 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,375 gonna be as a father on the birth certificate, 448 00:22:02,375 --> 00:22:04,708 I think she was trying to thwart that process. 449 00:22:04,708 --> 00:22:06,583 But a law is the law and you couldn't do that. 450 00:22:06,583 --> 00:22:08,208 The options you have are twofold. 451 00:22:08,208 --> 00:22:11,625 Either we can have a formal hearing in Lafourche Parish, 452 00:22:11,625 --> 00:22:14,708 spend money on attorneys, drive to court, have a hearing, 453 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,583 they're gonna order you to do a DNA test anyway 454 00:22:17,583 --> 00:22:19,250 and then come back for a second hearing 455 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:20,875 to confirm the results. 456 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:22,625 Or we can do what we've been discussing, 457 00:22:22,625 --> 00:22:24,167 which is the third party acknowledgement. 458 00:22:24,167 --> 00:22:27,167 All you gotta do is go take your test at Ile's Medical. 459 00:22:27,167 --> 00:22:29,167 I would suggest doing it this week. 460 00:22:29,167 --> 00:22:30,417 - Okay. 461 00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:32,708 - Once we know those results then you, 462 00:22:32,708 --> 00:22:36,708 Ken and Gypsy will sign this affidavit, 463 00:22:36,708 --> 00:22:38,792 it'll go to the vital records in New Orleans, 464 00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:41,458 and ultimately, if Ken's the father, 465 00:22:41,458 --> 00:22:43,500 then they'll do an amended birth certificate 466 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:45,792 and it'll correct the name - The name. 467 00:22:45,792 --> 00:22:48,250 - And the father, et cetera and that's what's left 468 00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:50,042 on the paternity side of your case. 469 00:22:50,042 --> 00:22:51,375 - All right, that sounds fine. 470 00:22:51,375 --> 00:22:52,792 Do what we gotta do. 471 00:22:52,792 --> 00:22:54,292 - And this whole time we've avoided going to court. 472 00:22:54,292 --> 00:22:56,250 So hopefully we can keep that 473 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:57,667 amicable resolution attitude - Going. 474 00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:58,167 - Going forward, that's the plan. 475 00:22:58,625 --> 00:23:00,500 - Going forward, that's the plan. 476 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:02,250 - Yeah, I understand. 477 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:03,375 - She been in contact with you? 478 00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:04,458 - Yes. 479 00:23:08,208 --> 00:23:11,375 [intense music] 480 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,208 - You've been in contact with her? 481 00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:15,000 - Yes. 482 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 - Why? 483 00:23:17,208 --> 00:23:20,958 - We were trying to set up something for the paternity to, 484 00:23:20,958 --> 00:23:23,000 you know, she wanted me to meet her baby. 485 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,333 - Is that the only reason? 486 00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:25,833 - I mean, yes and no. 487 00:23:25,833 --> 00:23:28,208 Like we both kind of miss each other's friendship. 488 00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:31,083 But I mean like, it's like, 489 00:23:31,083 --> 00:23:32,458 it's touch and go, it's weird. 490 00:23:32,458 --> 00:23:33,667 It's weird how it works. 491 00:23:33,667 --> 00:23:34,917 Like you know, I still care about her, 492 00:23:34,917 --> 00:23:37,708 she still cares about me, but it's nothing. 493 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,417 We haven't talked about getting back together, 494 00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:40,708 nothing like that. - It's not romantic? 495 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:43,167 - No, we flirted but nothing like- 496 00:23:43,167 --> 00:23:45,208 - She still flirts? 497 00:23:45,208 --> 00:23:46,333 - Well, I mean she can't help it. 498 00:23:46,333 --> 00:23:47,542 I don't think she can help it. 499 00:23:47,542 --> 00:23:49,333 - Okay, you think that's healthy for you? 500 00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:51,333 - No, it's not and I know that. 501 00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:52,500 Like I'm working on it. 502 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:53,500 - How many times have I told you? 503 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,708 - You've told me so many times. 504 00:23:55,708 --> 00:23:57,250 You told me, it's not like I already knew 505 00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:59,667 that you would what you would think if I told you that. 506 00:23:59,667 --> 00:24:01,042 I know, I know. - [Randy] Okay. 507 00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:02,042 - I know you're right. 508 00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:04,417 - When I first met Ryan, he was still hopeful 509 00:24:04,417 --> 00:24:05,750 that there would be a marriage. 510 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:08,042 He was desperately in love actually. 511 00:24:08,042 --> 00:24:12,583 So I was not surprised by his desire to see her 512 00:24:12,583 --> 00:24:14,542 and be friends still 513 00:24:14,542 --> 00:24:18,875 and there's that mysterious love thing, connection, 514 00:24:18,875 --> 00:24:21,958 vibe that people have that draw them to each other. 515 00:24:21,958 --> 00:24:25,542 He had that toward her and he's having to overcome that, 516 00:24:25,542 --> 00:24:28,417 but it was very powerful in the very beginning. 517 00:24:28,417 --> 00:24:31,250 - I mean, they still have my last name for a couple months. 518 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:32,625 - [Jeff] Yeah. - [Ryan] Okay. 519 00:24:32,625 --> 00:24:33,875 - [Randy] All right. 520 00:24:36,667 --> 00:24:39,875 [gentle upbeat music] 521 00:24:47,583 --> 00:24:49,375 - [Gypsy] I need to bounce some ideas off of you. 522 00:24:49,375 --> 00:24:50,708 - [Ken] Okay. 523 00:24:50,708 --> 00:24:52,542 - Okay, so I'm writing a list of stuff 524 00:24:52,542 --> 00:24:55,500 that I'll be able to do off parole 525 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:56,917 that I can't do now. 526 00:24:56,917 --> 00:24:57,833 - Right. 527 00:24:57,833 --> 00:24:59,667 - So this is what I got so far. 528 00:24:59,667 --> 00:25:01,708 - [Ken] Where I gotta- - Move in with you, 529 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:03,417 travel out of state for fun. 530 00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:04,500 - Yep. 531 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:05,417 - [Gypsy] Drink at a bar. 532 00:25:05,417 --> 00:25:06,833 - Sure. 533 00:25:06,833 --> 00:25:08,875 - Be free of harassment from people reporting me 534 00:25:08,875 --> 00:25:11,333 always for dumb [bleep] to my PO. 535 00:25:11,333 --> 00:25:12,917 - Mm-hmm. 536 00:25:12,917 --> 00:25:15,708 - Talk to other prisoners about prison reform. 537 00:25:15,708 --> 00:25:16,708 - [Ken] Perfect. 538 00:25:16,708 --> 00:25:18,542 - Go to Vegas. - Perfect. 539 00:25:18,542 --> 00:25:20,083 - Go to Hawaii 540 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:21,875 and go to Iceland. 541 00:25:21,875 --> 00:25:22,750 - [Ken] Okay. 542 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:25,333 - Anything? - I like all those. 543 00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,375 - We were intimate for the first time 544 00:25:27,375 --> 00:25:29,708 in a long time last night 545 00:25:29,708 --> 00:25:32,292 and I think that that helped us reconnect. 546 00:25:33,792 --> 00:25:37,625 But it's like I'm still wanting to do everything I can 547 00:25:37,625 --> 00:25:40,542 to just make us 548 00:25:40,542 --> 00:25:42,708 the best version of ourselves we can be. 549 00:25:42,708 --> 00:25:45,417 - Breathe, we can all be a family finally 550 00:25:45,417 --> 00:25:47,708 under one roof, permanently. 551 00:25:47,708 --> 00:25:49,875 That's the big one I'm looking forward to. 552 00:25:49,875 --> 00:25:52,417 - Okay, so I'm gonna star that one 553 00:25:52,417 --> 00:25:53,542 as the most liked. 554 00:25:53,542 --> 00:25:55,000 - [Ken] That's the biggest one. 555 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,500 - Just when I think that, you know, 556 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:02,542 no one will stay because times get stressful, 557 00:26:03,875 --> 00:26:07,375 and I always had a problem with self-sabotaging. 558 00:26:07,375 --> 00:26:09,208 I'd always be like, push you away, 559 00:26:09,208 --> 00:26:10,708 push you away, push you away. 560 00:26:11,625 --> 00:26:14,125 Then the other piece comes into it, 561 00:26:14,125 --> 00:26:16,375 that's when your partner looks at you and is like, 562 00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:18,375 you are loved, you're worthy, 563 00:26:18,375 --> 00:26:19,833 you're worthy of this. 564 00:26:19,833 --> 00:26:23,375 And for someone to actually stay 565 00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:26,083 and fight through the pushing 566 00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,417 is extremely important. 567 00:26:29,417 --> 00:26:33,000 He doesn't have to stay, but he does. 568 00:26:36,958 --> 00:26:39,292 [calm music] 569 00:26:39,292 --> 00:26:42,000 [engine humming] 570 00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:57,125 - Hi, how are you today? - Hello, good. 571 00:26:57,125 --> 00:26:58,542 - All right, what you got going on? 572 00:26:58,542 --> 00:27:00,708 - I'm here to get my first driver's license. 573 00:27:00,708 --> 00:27:02,625 - Okay, congratulations. - Thank you. 574 00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:07,083 I always saw people doing normal things 575 00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:09,292 and like I thought so highly of them. 576 00:27:09,292 --> 00:27:12,042 I'd see other people on the road driving. 577 00:27:12,042 --> 00:27:14,583 I'm just like, wow, like that's so cool 578 00:27:14,583 --> 00:27:16,708 and that's so like mature and grown up 579 00:27:16,708 --> 00:27:20,167 and you know, I just, I always had like a fear 580 00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:22,875 that I couldn't do it. 581 00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:26,542 So it's not even so much proving my mom wrong, 582 00:27:26,542 --> 00:27:29,708 it was just kind of proving my past wrong. 583 00:27:29,708 --> 00:27:31,625 - [Tester] We're gonna read line six. 584 00:27:31,625 --> 00:27:35,917 ♪ Something new is shining through ♪ 585 00:27:38,042 --> 00:27:39,458 - [Tester] All right, it's gonna print out for you 586 00:27:39,458 --> 00:27:42,125 in just a moment. - Okay, thank you. 587 00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:44,792 ♪ A first time 588 00:27:46,042 --> 00:27:48,250 - [Tester] Here is you're completed drivers license. 589 00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:50,083 - Thank you so much. - [Tester] Congratulations. 590 00:27:50,083 --> 00:27:52,375 - [Gypsy] I do still have a lot of restrictions 591 00:27:52,375 --> 00:27:56,167 that I'm up against, especially being on parole, 592 00:27:56,167 --> 00:27:59,125 but there is a freedom and independence 593 00:27:59,125 --> 00:28:01,792 in going where you want when you want. 594 00:28:02,708 --> 00:28:04,042 - All right. 595 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:06,833 Personal driver's license. 596 00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:07,958 Look at you, official. 597 00:28:07,958 --> 00:28:08,917 Is that a new picture? 598 00:28:08,917 --> 00:28:10,208 - Yeah. - Looks great. 599 00:28:10,208 --> 00:28:11,083 I love it. 600 00:28:11,083 --> 00:28:13,208 Congrats, babe. - Thank you. 601 00:28:13,208 --> 00:28:15,083 - [Ken] You wanna hop in the driver's seat now? 602 00:28:15,083 --> 00:28:16,042 - Sure. 603 00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:21,000 - Nope. - I knew it. 604 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,333 [gentle lively music] 605 00:28:28,542 --> 00:28:29,667 - [Ken] Gyp, do you want a coffee? 606 00:28:29,667 --> 00:28:31,083 - [Gypsy] Yes. 607 00:28:31,083 --> 00:28:32,875 I think I'm gonna get the red velvet. 608 00:28:32,875 --> 00:28:34,333 - [Ken] Like the red velvet? - [Gypsy] Uh-huh. 609 00:28:35,625 --> 00:28:37,042 - Can I get a carrot cake square 610 00:28:37,042 --> 00:28:38,208 and whatever that Danish is. 611 00:28:39,208 --> 00:28:40,208 - [Ken] Perfect. 612 00:28:42,542 --> 00:28:44,833 - Oh, it's so cute. 613 00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:50,042 - All right, cheers to a new driver on the road. 614 00:28:50,042 --> 00:28:51,375 - Cheers [chuckling]. 615 00:28:52,375 --> 00:28:53,625 Are you scared? 616 00:28:53,625 --> 00:28:54,917 - A little bit. 617 00:28:54,917 --> 00:28:56,292 [Gypsy and Ken chuckle] 618 00:28:56,292 --> 00:28:58,375 - It's okay, I'm gonna drive like a [indistinct]. 619 00:29:00,667 --> 00:29:02,500 So what time do you work until today? 620 00:29:04,917 --> 00:29:07,042 - I know it's been a really busy couple of weeks 621 00:29:07,042 --> 00:29:08,542 with work and life stuff, 622 00:29:08,542 --> 00:29:11,417 but I love you and I'm happy that we got to spend 623 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:12,875 this morning together. 624 00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:14,208 - I love you too. 625 00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:16,500 - [Ken] And how you feeling? You okay? 626 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:18,417 - Much better. - Good. 627 00:29:18,417 --> 00:29:19,500 You ready for tomorrow? 628 00:29:20,875 --> 00:29:22,375 We'll have a little morning Valentine's daytime 629 00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:24,667 and then I have to go to work, but Sunday. 630 00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:26,167 - Sunday. - [Ken] I've got plans. 631 00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:27,708 - [Gypsy] What did we used to do 632 00:29:27,708 --> 00:29:30,042 for Valentine's Day while I was in prison? 633 00:29:30,042 --> 00:29:31,042 - I can't remember. 634 00:29:31,042 --> 00:29:32,292 Send a card, have a phone call. 635 00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:33,667 That's about it. 636 00:29:33,667 --> 00:29:35,875 - So I was thinking we can do maybe like 637 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:37,625 a board game or something 638 00:29:37,625 --> 00:29:40,292 and then a movie, 639 00:29:40,292 --> 00:29:44,208 and then after that I want a bubble bath 640 00:29:44,208 --> 00:29:45,125 in the big tub, 641 00:29:45,125 --> 00:29:47,458 not my little tub. - Okay. 642 00:29:47,458 --> 00:29:49,750 I really didn't want anyone to know about that, but okay. 643 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:51,708 [Gypsy nervously chuckles] 644 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:54,167 - Well I mean, you haven't asked me. 645 00:29:55,917 --> 00:29:57,167 - Asked you what? 646 00:29:58,083 --> 00:29:59,708 - If I'm gonna be your Valentine. 647 00:29:59,708 --> 00:30:00,792 - Oh. - You didn't ask me. 648 00:30:02,708 --> 00:30:04,167 - [Ken] Well, wait till tomorrow. 649 00:30:05,292 --> 00:30:06,250 [gentle music] 650 00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:08,333 - [Gypsy] Hold my hand. - No. 651 00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:09,333 - Hold my hand. 652 00:30:10,917 --> 00:30:13,542 - Will we be my Valentine this year, Gypsy Rose? 653 00:30:13,542 --> 00:30:15,083 - Yes. - Okay. 654 00:30:15,083 --> 00:30:18,875 - Will you be my Valentine? - Absolutely, every day. 655 00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:20,792 [gentle music] 656 00:30:20,792 --> 00:30:21,208 - Thank you. 657 00:30:21,375 --> 00:30:22,500 - Thank you. 658 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:23,625 What about you, Aurora? 659 00:30:23,625 --> 00:30:24,917 Are you gonna be our Valentine? 660 00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:25,958 - I dunno why I said that, I'm already spoken for. 661 00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:28,458 Aurora's my Valentine. - Oh really? 662 00:30:28,458 --> 00:30:31,708 Well that's the only girl let you have as a valentine 663 00:30:31,708 --> 00:30:32,500 other than me. 664 00:30:33,708 --> 00:30:35,542 - Okay, fair enough. 665 00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:38,208 [gentle music] 666 00:30:43,417 --> 00:30:46,083 [gentle sad music] 667 00:30:51,042 --> 00:30:55,250 - I am on my way to get swabbed 668 00:30:56,458 --> 00:30:58,583 for the DNA test for Aurora 669 00:31:00,042 --> 00:31:02,500 and little Aurora right now, her last name's Anderson 670 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:04,000 and I know they wanna change it 671 00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:07,125 and this is the first step to that. 672 00:31:08,542 --> 00:31:09,875 Gypsy's been pushing for this, 673 00:31:09,875 --> 00:31:11,375 I know Ken's waiting for it. 674 00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,583 I don't really give a damn what he's waiting for though, 675 00:31:14,583 --> 00:31:15,875 but... 676 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,250 Who knows, maybe the baby will stay Anderson forever 677 00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:23,542 if I'm the dad. [Ryan scoffs] 678 00:31:24,542 --> 00:31:27,583 The way the baby was born, it's too close. 679 00:31:27,583 --> 00:31:29,875 And like I have to be 100% sure 680 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:31,375 before I sign over rights. 681 00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:33,375 I just have to be. 682 00:31:33,375 --> 00:31:36,583 Like I would never forgive myself. 683 00:31:36,583 --> 00:31:39,083 You know, I've been kinda looking forward to this day 684 00:31:39,083 --> 00:31:41,000 and dreading it at the same time. 685 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,917 But like, I don't have any regrets really. 686 00:31:45,208 --> 00:31:46,208 I don't. 687 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,917 She might, but I don't. 688 00:31:49,917 --> 00:31:51,333 I followed my vows. 689 00:31:52,208 --> 00:31:55,250 [gentle sad music] 690 00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:57,250 And this might be the last chapter 691 00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,125 and close the book forever. 692 00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:01,625 And maybe that's what we want, I don't know. 693 00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:06,333 [gentle sad music] 694 00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:16,208 [calm music] 695 00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:25,083 - Hi. 696 00:32:26,875 --> 00:32:30,125 [gentle music] 697 00:32:30,125 --> 00:32:35,250 From the time that I went into prison 698 00:32:35,875 --> 00:32:37,333 to the time that I left, 699 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:40,208 I had been preparing myself for something bigger. 700 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,125 Thinking about motherhood, 701 00:32:43,125 --> 00:32:46,625 thinking about what it meant to be a good partner. 702 00:32:46,625 --> 00:32:49,542 It's always gonna be a forever journey for me 703 00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:50,792 to learn who I am 704 00:32:50,792 --> 00:32:52,875 and it's a journey of self-discovery 705 00:32:52,875 --> 00:32:54,875 that will go on for the rest of my life. 706 00:32:54,875 --> 00:32:56,000 Oh, what is this? 707 00:32:57,125 --> 00:32:59,167 This is a crawfish? 708 00:32:59,167 --> 00:33:00,292 - [Ken] Yeah. 709 00:33:00,292 --> 00:33:03,375 - Aw, that's so sweet. 710 00:33:03,375 --> 00:33:06,042 I've always like, in the backyard, 711 00:33:06,042 --> 00:33:07,958 like chase butterflies 712 00:33:07,958 --> 00:33:09,542 and things like that when I was little. 713 00:33:09,542 --> 00:33:14,208 I've never seen one up close, like that close before. 714 00:33:14,208 --> 00:33:17,792 - I have a butterfly for you to release. 715 00:33:17,792 --> 00:33:19,375 - Oh, exciting. - Very cool. 716 00:33:19,375 --> 00:33:20,542 - Yeah. 717 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:22,167 You are going to let this butterfly go 718 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,375 for its first flight. 719 00:33:23,375 --> 00:33:24,750 So hold the bottom nice and tight, 720 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,167 lift the top nice and quick. 721 00:33:27,292 --> 00:33:28,708 [gentle music] [Gyspy giggling] 722 00:33:28,708 --> 00:33:32,042 So let me take the top from you, tap on the bottom. 723 00:33:32,042 --> 00:33:34,167 And if that doesn't work, if you put that 724 00:33:34,167 --> 00:33:35,667 in front of the butterfly's head and lift up, 725 00:33:35,667 --> 00:33:38,208 it's either gonna climb on there or it's gonna fly away. 726 00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:40,208 And if it climbs on there, we'll do yet another thing. 727 00:33:40,208 --> 00:33:42,125 So, oh, there you go. 728 00:33:42,125 --> 00:33:43,333 - [Ken] There you go. 729 00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:48,125 - Freedom, coming out into the world 730 00:33:48,125 --> 00:33:50,833 and getting to actually really be able to enjoy it, 731 00:33:50,833 --> 00:33:53,500 something that Gypsy's never really been able to do. 732 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,375 And it's gonna get even better in a few months 733 00:33:55,375 --> 00:33:56,708 when she's finally off parole. 734 00:33:56,708 --> 00:33:58,708 We can actually travel and go see more stuff 735 00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:00,875 and she's been the best mother 736 00:34:00,875 --> 00:34:02,125 I could ever want for my child. 737 00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:03,417 And I'm super proud that I get 738 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:05,417 to go on this journey with her 739 00:34:05,417 --> 00:34:08,208 and that the three of us are experiencing life 740 00:34:08,208 --> 00:34:09,792 in an all new way. 741 00:34:09,792 --> 00:34:11,208 It's been glorious. 742 00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:12,208 I mean, I love it. 743 00:34:12,208 --> 00:34:13,208 I love every minute of it. 744 00:34:13,208 --> 00:34:15,292 I am the happiest I've ever been. 745 00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:21,542 - [Ryan] I'm here for a DNA test. 746 00:34:21,542 --> 00:34:23,125 - All right, do you have your ID with you? 747 00:34:23,125 --> 00:34:24,042 - Absolutely. 748 00:34:24,042 --> 00:34:28,792 ♪ Your sadness 749 00:34:28,792 --> 00:34:33,083 ♪ Is a good companion 750 00:34:33,083 --> 00:34:36,583 ♪ It never lets you down 751 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,417 - This is a surreal moment. 752 00:34:39,417 --> 00:34:41,542 I never expected this to ever happen. 753 00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:43,875 Like I'd ever have to do a paternity test. 754 00:34:43,875 --> 00:34:45,292 And you know, when I got married, 755 00:34:45,292 --> 00:34:48,542 I never thought I'd have to do this. 756 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:50,333 You know, I always wanted a baby with Gypsy 757 00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:52,542 and it's one of these where like, this is a test to prove 758 00:34:52,542 --> 00:34:55,042 that I'm not the father of Gypsy's baby, you know? 759 00:34:55,042 --> 00:34:56,458 So it's hard, 760 00:34:56,458 --> 00:34:59,250 but I've dealt with so much in this. 761 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:02,125 So this is just like a icing on the cake really. 762 00:35:03,042 --> 00:35:04,250 - Open wide. 763 00:35:05,833 --> 00:35:09,208 ♪ No reason in this life time 764 00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:12,375 - Fun stuff. - [Tester] Fun stuff. 765 00:35:12,375 --> 00:35:17,417 ♪ No complimentary price for second place ♪ 766 00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:19,792 - It's a lot in that cotton swab. 767 00:35:19,792 --> 00:35:23,750 Like a lot of results and a lot of like what ifs 768 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:25,792 or questions answered. 769 00:35:25,792 --> 00:35:27,292 You know, it's just amazing, 770 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:29,792 like those four little cotton swabs will answer a lot. 771 00:35:29,792 --> 00:35:31,333 - All right. - That's it? 772 00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:33,167 - [Tester] Yeah. - Wow. 773 00:35:38,708 --> 00:35:41,500 - I mean, in life, do you ever get endings? 774 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:43,042 That's why I don't like goodbyes 775 00:35:43,042 --> 00:35:46,208 'cause who knows what tomorrow will bring, you know? 776 00:35:46,208 --> 00:35:47,708 - [Tester] Okay and that's it, my friend. 777 00:35:47,708 --> 00:35:48,583 You good to go. 778 00:35:48,583 --> 00:35:49,708 - Thank you ma'am. - No problem. 779 00:35:50,667 --> 00:35:55,042 ♪ You said you would not forget me ♪ 780 00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:55,708 ♪ You said you would not forget me ♪ 781 00:35:56,250 --> 00:35:57,875 ♪ Not forget me 782 00:35:57,875 --> 00:36:01,375 ♪ I can't hold you up 783 00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:03,417 - Only thing I can do is keep living. 784 00:36:03,417 --> 00:36:06,542 I mean that's all we can do in this life, right? 785 00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:08,417 And that's what I'm gonna do. 786 00:36:09,708 --> 00:36:11,958 [sad music] 787 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,292 [tense music] 788 00:36:42,167 --> 00:36:44,958 - Come on my little sweet pea, smile. 789 00:36:44,958 --> 00:36:47,667 - I posted the results 790 00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:49,667 from the second paternity test. 791 00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:52,375 - Oh my God, who was the dad? 792 00:36:52,375 --> 00:36:53,958 - [Gypsy] Who do you think? 793 00:36:53,958 --> 00:36:55,875 - [gasps] What a shock. - Yeah. 794 00:36:55,875 --> 00:36:57,500 I'm just happy that's over. 795 00:36:59,083 --> 00:37:02,208 Ryan did a couple of lives on TikTok, 796 00:37:02,208 --> 00:37:04,917 but he didn't mention anything about it. 797 00:37:04,917 --> 00:37:06,458 - Mm. 798 00:37:08,375 --> 00:37:09,667 - None whatsoever. 799 00:37:12,667 --> 00:37:14,458 - He hasn't said anything about it. 800 00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:17,542 - So Ryan being a petty little bitch 801 00:37:17,542 --> 00:37:19,875 is no longer standing in our way, huh? 802 00:37:19,875 --> 00:37:21,250 - My God, Kennan. 803 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:26,167 I don't know, Ryan's a mixed bag of emotions. 804 00:37:26,167 --> 00:37:30,542 I do my best not to judge Ryan 805 00:37:31,375 --> 00:37:33,625 because I have been there 806 00:37:33,625 --> 00:37:37,792 and still am there with healing. 807 00:37:37,792 --> 00:37:39,417 Time will heal, 808 00:37:39,417 --> 00:37:44,042 but there's no measure of time 809 00:37:44,042 --> 00:37:44,958 to where it's like, okay, 810 00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:48,292 in five years you'll be okay. 811 00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:50,375 - I mean, he said it himself before, 812 00:37:50,375 --> 00:37:51,875 like, I never questioned the paternity, 813 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:54,250 but now all of a sudden he wants to just like 814 00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:57,083 cause all this drama and chaos. 815 00:37:57,083 --> 00:37:58,625 But it's all over now 816 00:37:58,625 --> 00:38:02,167 and we're almost outta the woods. 817 00:38:02,167 --> 00:38:03,167 That's just my opinion. 818 00:38:03,167 --> 00:38:04,208 I mean I'm honestly. 819 00:38:04,208 --> 00:38:05,875 - I understand. 820 00:38:05,875 --> 00:38:09,250 - This whole second test was just for show basically. 821 00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,583 I mean, we knew what it was gonna be 822 00:38:10,583 --> 00:38:12,583 and it was exactly what we thought. 823 00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:14,792 It's me, of course. 824 00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:17,125 He knew all along that he wasn't the father. 825 00:38:17,125 --> 00:38:19,958 He just purposely tried to drag her through the mud 826 00:38:19,958 --> 00:38:22,375 'cause it's just, you know? 827 00:38:22,375 --> 00:38:24,375 He's a petty little bitch. 828 00:38:24,375 --> 00:38:25,708 - I am not gonna say a word. 829 00:38:25,708 --> 00:38:27,583 - [Ken] You know, [bleep] that guy. 830 00:38:27,583 --> 00:38:29,833 - I am Switzerland. 831 00:38:29,833 --> 00:38:31,542 - I'm Germany. 832 00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:33,417 [Ken and Gypsy chuckle] 833 00:38:33,417 --> 00:38:35,458 - Do you get that reference though? 834 00:38:35,458 --> 00:38:38,125 - Yeah, yeah, they stayed outta the war, right? 835 00:38:38,125 --> 00:38:41,250 - Well in "Twilight," Bella says, 836 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:42,833 "I'm Switzerland" - Oh, then I have no idea. 837 00:38:42,833 --> 00:38:44,833 - 'Cause she didn't wanna get in between Edward and Jacob. 838 00:38:44,833 --> 00:38:47,542 - Well, I think what that was like it's a callback 839 00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:48,875 to like World War II, 840 00:38:48,875 --> 00:38:50,458 like Switzerland stayed out of, I don't remember. 841 00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:53,500 - The best part about me and Ken is that 842 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:57,875 no matter how hard we try, 843 00:38:57,875 --> 00:39:01,125 we just can't give up on each other. 844 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:04,417 Whenever you have someone that you can look at and be like, 845 00:39:04,417 --> 00:39:09,208 you know, I see us 20 years in the future 846 00:39:09,208 --> 00:39:12,417 and we are old 847 00:39:12,417 --> 00:39:15,375 and our hair is gone or gray 848 00:39:15,375 --> 00:39:17,875 and I love you and we're at a point 849 00:39:17,875 --> 00:39:20,333 where we can hold each other's hands and say, you know, 850 00:39:20,333 --> 00:39:23,583 if we died today, we had a good life. 851 00:39:25,333 --> 00:39:27,292 [Aurora coos] - [Ken] What are you saying? 852 00:39:27,292 --> 00:39:29,042 What are you saying? 853 00:39:29,042 --> 00:39:31,750 [gentle music] 854 00:39:33,167 --> 00:39:35,917 [intense music] 855 00:39:40,708 --> 00:39:42,250 - I've never done this before. 856 00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:43,958 So I'm not really sure what to expect. 857 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:47,667 I think I know exactly what would make Gypsy happy. 858 00:39:49,417 --> 00:39:51,917 I feel like Gypsy and I, 859 00:39:51,917 --> 00:39:54,417 I think that we're in a really good place right now. 860 00:39:54,417 --> 00:39:55,750 You know, we've overcome a lot of challenges. 861 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:57,083 We've had some hardships for sure, 862 00:39:57,083 --> 00:39:58,458 we've had some really bad days, 863 00:39:58,458 --> 00:40:00,833 we've had some really good days. 864 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:03,375 Sometimes we'll distance ourselves from each other 865 00:40:03,375 --> 00:40:04,625 'cause things are happening, 866 00:40:04,625 --> 00:40:06,208 but we always have a way of circling back 867 00:40:06,208 --> 00:40:08,125 and reconnecting in the best way. 868 00:40:08,125 --> 00:40:10,833 [intense music] 869 00:40:15,375 --> 00:40:16,625 [car door bangs] 870 00:40:17,625 --> 00:40:19,875 I have no idea what I'm walking into, 871 00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:23,167 but I'm also excited, nervous and excited. 872 00:40:23,167 --> 00:40:24,250 Hi there. 873 00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:25,250 - [Melissa] How are you? 874 00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:26,208 - Good, how's it going? 875 00:40:26,208 --> 00:40:27,458 - [Melissa] Good. 876 00:40:27,458 --> 00:40:29,625 - I've never been in a ring store before. 877 00:40:29,625 --> 00:40:31,792 - Welcome to the ring store. 878 00:40:31,792 --> 00:40:33,542 - I wanna unite us as a family, 879 00:40:33,542 --> 00:40:35,708 I know that Gypsy's a partner that I wanna 880 00:40:35,708 --> 00:40:37,458 go through life with 881 00:40:37,458 --> 00:40:39,625 and I wanna raise our daughter together 882 00:40:39,625 --> 00:40:41,375 as strong as possible. 883 00:40:41,375 --> 00:40:43,375 The day I was planning to propose 884 00:40:43,375 --> 00:40:45,000 is a few months away, so. 885 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,417 - Is it a special day? 886 00:40:46,417 --> 00:40:47,500 - It is. 887 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,042 - [Melissa] What's the occasion? 888 00:40:49,042 --> 00:40:50,542 - Her getting off parole. 889 00:40:50,542 --> 00:40:52,417 - That's definitely a reason to celebrate. 890 00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:53,625 Does she know that 891 00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:54,625 you're looking? - Her first day of 892 00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:55,667 true freedom really, you know? 893 00:40:56,667 --> 00:40:59,292 - Fresh start, fresh start. - Yeah, exactly. 894 00:40:59,292 --> 00:41:01,708 Fresh start and a new beginning. 895 00:41:01,708 --> 00:41:06,167 It's about reassuring her that I'm committed to us. 896 00:41:06,167 --> 00:41:08,375 There's nobody else I want to experience life with 897 00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:09,875 other than her. 898 00:41:09,875 --> 00:41:12,583 [gentle music]