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I just texted
everyone the photo of Robert's car.
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There's also a black Porsche Cayenne
that's gonna be coming out.
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{\an8}There's also a green Mercedes
that's gonna be coming out.
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{\an8}You know, we'll just go with
whichever one we get first.
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Never in a million years did we ever think
we could've been able to do this.
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When somebody comes,
you know which direction they're going.
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You just need to book it.
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I want Robert to know...
that I can find him.
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{\an8}I want him to be scared.
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{\an8}I want him to stress.
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I want him to know
I'm not the same person.
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I don't want him to think,
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"She's still that weak,
submissive, obedient, afraid person."
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I want him to know, I will do this,
even if it's the last thing that I do.
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Priscylla said to me,
"I want to sue Robert."
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{\an8}My initial response was, "slow down,
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{\an8}because you have no idea
what it takes to sue somebody."
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It's really hard to take legal action
against cults because...
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{\an8}it's not illegal to run a cult
or to be a member of a cult.
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{\an8}The...
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The way you take action
against a cult leader is, um,
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if they are committing crimes
within their cult.
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You have to find something
like financial misconduct
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because the act of
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controlling someone's daily life
is not a crime.
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My sister started
showing me the evidence that she had.
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The bank statements, the canceled checks.
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And we decided to share our experience
with the dancers
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because they experienced similar things.
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- Do you have a copy of bank statements?
- Yeah!
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- Yeah? Can you... Can you open it?
- I got all of it! Come on, now.
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This is like the Shekinah trend.
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- They'll give you, let's say, $100,000.
Mm.
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They'll put it
in your bank account.
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{\an8}- Then they'll take money out of it...
- Mm.
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{\an8}...and then say, "Okay, now
you're gifting Shekinah Church..."
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Mm. Mm-hm.
-"...all this money."
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So if they're saying
they paid you 102,000,
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my goal is to figure out
how much of this you gave to Shekinah,
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how much of this
you paid rent to Shekinah...
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Mm-hm.
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...how much of this you paid Hannah, Isaiah,
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- all that.
Aw, man.
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That's like all my money, basically.
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- Okay, so--
- You got...
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{\an8}'Cause I had to pay photography fee
for either RainO or Isaiah,
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{\an8}then I also had to pay rent,
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{\an8}20% management fee,
which you have to give to 7M.
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Then you have ten, ten, ten,
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which is tithes, offering, and Man of God.
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30% to the church?
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More than that sometimes.
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Sometimes I would give
like 50% of my income.
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Okay.
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With everything combined,
rounding up, you're giving 60 to 70%.
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{\an8}And that's before taxes.
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They're making it
like you're paying separate entities,
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but you're not.
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It's all going to Robert.
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Yeah.
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We'll have to add this to the lawsuit.
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{\an8}- We got in contact with Priscylla.
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{\an8}She actually came over,
we were on this couch.
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{\an8}We sat and listened to her
say this stuff for two and a half hours,
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{\an8}break down and cry.
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When she shared her story,
it broke me.
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It made me so mad
to where I wanted to do some damage.
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I wanted to... I was like, "They don't
know who they're messing with, bro."
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{\an8}That was the first time
that we were hearing all of this.
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{\an8}And we were just like,
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"How were we a small group
in a small church,
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but had no clue
that something like this was going on?"
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Just the money thing alone,
I'm like, "Okay, bro. Now, I see."
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She had told us that she,
you know, had a lawyer,
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she wanted to start a lawsuit against him,
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and it was up to us
if we wanted to join or not.
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We knew this was gonna be
a long process. Um, like, years.
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I want to join this case, for sure.
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He's gonna do it to somebody else.
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I can't let this man win.
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And then Robert sued us.
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When he heard we were trying to sue him,
he sued me first.
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That pissed me off.
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The legal process
is very impersonal.
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But for me, this is very personal.
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It's as if Robert's sitting in front
of me, like you and I right now.
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I'm looking at his face,
I'll be like, "I'm gonna beat you."
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If you asked me
what I believe justice would be,
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I want Robert to lose
every dollar that he has.
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Down to the penny.
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Because that's all Robert cares about.
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...but if David shows up,
you're gonna give him...
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Okay.
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Robert and Isaiah.
It's David.
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So if someone sues you,
you have to get served papers.
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You can serve someone with a lawsuit
by hiring a company
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who will track them down
and give them the paperwork,
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but that can take months.
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This is my lawsuit.
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I'm going after him.
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I'm not gonna leave it up to other people.
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But Melanie and I couldn't serve them
because we're part of the lawsuit.
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{\an8}So Melanie got her friends to help us.
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{\an8}You guys name the name and drop it.
They don't need to take it.
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Call their name and fling it?
- That's fine.
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- That's it. Let's go.
- Okay.
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{\an8}Oh my gosh,
it's gonna be happening in 30 minutes.
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Insane.
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Melanie, your Tesla's butt
is sticking out like a sore thumb.
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I can see it from here.
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Like three people might see your face
before you get to follow somebody.
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I'll scoot it to the right.
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- Okay.
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Okay, is that good?
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Not really, but I should tell her it is.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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I'll let everybody know as soon
as the gate opens for the first time
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{\an8}so everybody's engines can be on,
and you guys are ready to go.
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It feels so weird
coming to a place that was my home.
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It really felt like it was my home.
I thought I was gonna live here forever.
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I thought I was gonna be in that bedroom
in that white house until Jesus came.
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Like I was gonna be stuck in that room
for the rest of my life.
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Robert's coming out!
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Okay, copy.
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My mask.
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Oh my God. My heart's pounding.
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Shit. Robert made a right at...
Hattie, that's on you.
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Robert made a right! Hattie!
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Yep. Copy, copy.
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Kristin, where are you?
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He just ran a red light,
so I'm trying to catch up right now.
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I think I see him.
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Robert pulled into a Korean restaurant.
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There they are.
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Okay, all of them are going in.
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All right.
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Oh, shit.
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Where's Robert?
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Robert Shinn, you've been served.
- Okay. Thank you.
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- Matthew Shinn, you've been served.
Are you Isaiah?
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You'll be served too.
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Have a nice day.
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- Look at us for our first time serving!
- That was awesome.
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Look at this team.
Everybody just showing up like this.
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That was very effective.
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Sign me up for next time.
- You want... You want to do it again?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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I'm the undercover white guy!
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- I'm perfect!
Let's serve women now.
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You know, it's weird.
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I feel bad for them.
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I don't know.
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Maybe because for so many years
I tried to protect them.
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And I made it my job to protect them.
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I devoted my life to protect them.
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I don't feel bad that I'm suing them,
because it's justice, but...
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I guess the human part of it.
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Like you still wish it wasn't this way.
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The people bringing claims
against Robert Shinn
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are in for a long legal battle.
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And I would like to say that
it's all gonna fall apart relatively soon.
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History has shown, however,
that this group can be hard to dismantle.
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Only one other person
attempted to sue Robert.
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And she lost.
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Back in 2009,
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{\an8}Pastor Shinn was sued by
former member of the church, Lydia Chung.
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{\an8}And she sued Robert
for stealing, brainwashing,
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{\an8}and completely cutting her off
from her family.
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Why does that...
Why does that sound familiar?
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The judge said it looked like
there was psychological manipulation,
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but also said that,
"My hands are off this because of
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the protection of the First Amendment
for religious organizations."
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Full-grown adults
who are deciding to join a group
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and buy into their ideology,
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whether that group
has a creeping, growing control
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over their lives and their mind,
is not of legal concern.
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So, psychological manipulation,
coercion, extortion...
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This lawsuit, I think it's
a step in the right direction, absolutely,
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but I think there needs to be more.
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{\an8}My sister will not come back
unless Robert is put behind bars.
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A lawsuit
doesn't necessarily stop Robert
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from doing what he's been doing.
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They would need a criminal case for him
to potentially serve any jail time.
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{\an8}What would the police department
need from us to bring a criminal case?
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You'll have to make
all these victims,
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all these other kids that leave,
come with you to the station,
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say, "I want to file
a sexual assault charge,"
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where they're gonna name, uh, the suspect,
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"Uh, Robert did this,
did this, did this to me,"
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comma, they're gonna mention,
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"And I know there's other victims there.
They are unable to speak for themselves."
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That's good.
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Every person that you know
needs to file whatever charges they have.
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Sexual coercion,
rape, every little detail.
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We know women that have
gone through situations with Robert.
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We need to start contacting them
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and see if they would be willing to file
a police report, and share their story.
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{\an8}We are really wanting them
to open up a criminal case against him.
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Mm-hm.
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And we need people
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that can be able
to report firsthand experience.
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Right.
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{\an8}I definitely want him to have to pay
for what he's done.
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But, honestly, I worry a little bit
about Robert and his retaliation.
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- Right.
- Right, and if, again...
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And we understand totally
that it's gotta be hard to talk about it.
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Yeah.
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So, the way that they make it seem,
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was that it's an honor in that church
to get to spend time with him.
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I knew that certain people
closer to him would massage him.
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So if you're asked, "Can you..."
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If you get to massage him, you're like,
"Oh, wow, this is a privilege."
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So you... you did what you were told.
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You obey, because you thought,
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"If I obey the Man of God,
I'm obeying God."
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Mm-hm.
- But when I got there, he would say,
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"Change, take off your bra.
Put on this shirt."
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And I'm like, "Hmm, no, I'm okay.
I don't need to take my bra off."
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- You know? Like, "I'm fine."
Yeah.
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He kept insisting, but I'd just refuse.
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But...
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Yeah, he had me blindfold myself,
and he had me massage him.
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But when I went to massage him,
he had nothing on.
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And when it came down to it,
he wanted me to massage his, uh,
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privates.
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Yeah, so...
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Yeah, and when we left,
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we were told
not to talk about this with anybody.
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Not even each other.
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Yeah.
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As a Man of God,
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I wasn't thinking that he would ever
do anything wrong to me or someone.
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Boom. Left it alone.
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But, then, after so many times
of seeing the accusations,
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it actually brought me to realize
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that I was in a situation
like those other women.
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Robert and a bunch of the dancers
were at the gym,
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and I was having like a bad back pain.
239
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I was explaining to him,
"This is my back problem I'm having."
240
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We believed that him as a Man of God
could heal things.
241
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I thought maybe
he'll pray for me, or something.
242
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But instead, he was like,
"Oh, I can crack your back for you."
243
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And me just thinking
nothing wrong of that, "Okay, cool."
244
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So we go outside,
and he goes to crack my back,
245
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and it definitely did not feel like he
was intentionally trying to crack my back.
246
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It felt like he was trying to,
um, feel all of my body.
247
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I felt like, "Oh, this is kind of weird."
248
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"But he would never do anything like that,
it was probably just an awkward moment."
249
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"He's a Man of God."
250
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I'm a doctor, you know? Ooh.
251
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{\an8}Naked body. Oh, come on.
You know, it's like...
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Praise the Lord.
- [people] Praise the Lord.
253
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Praise the Lord.
God has no problems with nakedness.
254
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Right.
Whoo-hoo!
255
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We had seen Miranda, I was like,
"I miss you. Let's get coffee."
256
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But when I went to hug Miranda,
she was crying.
257
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- She started to break down crying.
- Really?
258
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And then obviously I was crying,
because this is my friend.
259
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- Right.
- And it made me sad.
260
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So I was crying too, and then we
walked away from each other just crying.
261
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But I was like,
"Is that, like, a sign? Is she..."
262
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"Did she really just miss me
and break down,
263
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or was it, like...
trying to tell me something?"
264
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I do still have people I love in there.
265
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I think that's something else
that sparks why I feel so sad.
266
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It's definitely because
267
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I have friends in there that I love.
268
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I was thinking about, "What if another
young Kylie goes into the church,
269
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and then he tries
to do things like that to her?"
270
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If I stand my ground
and go in and file a report,
271
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then I could be helping that next person
that's going in there, the next victim.
272
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But if I stay quiet
just because it hurts to talk about it,
273
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who's that helping?
274
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When I went in to tell the story,
275
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I started by telling them
at the front desk.
276
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They were like,
"Okay, we need to go into a room."
277
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They're like, "We need more detail."
278
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"We need you to go into full detail."
279
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And they would ask, like, crazy questions.
280
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There's just so many eyes on me.
It's an uncomfortable thing to talk about.
281
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And they keep bringing in
a bunch of different police officers.
282
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Then they're like,
"Why are you just now coming forward?"
283
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"What other information do you have?"
284
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It makes me feel like
I did something wrong
285
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when really I'm the victim.
286
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It's hard on your mind, on your heart.
287
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It's hard.
288
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He's like,
"I see your case here and it is filed,
289
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but we need something more to have
happened in order to go arrest him."
290
00:19:55,235 --> 00:19:58,822
He was like, "Bring in a few more women,
and I will go get him."
291
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Like, they have to come to that location,
and it has to be in person.
292
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We were told that...
293
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This is so ridiculous.
294
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...that we needed,
they needed more women to come
295
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forward in order for him to get arrested
for any kind of sexual assault.
296
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{\an8}Which I thought was the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
297
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One is not enough.
298
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One person,
one woman is not enough.
299
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If you have two or three women,
300
00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:36,109
then we can put together a case.
301
00:20:45,285 --> 00:20:47,913
They asked me,
"Why did I come out now?"
302
00:20:47,913 --> 00:20:50,916
I said, "Because he's still
doing this to people."
303
00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:56,964
"And so I want to help make the case
to try and get him to be stopped."
304
00:20:56,964 --> 00:21:01,385
"You know, try and build the case."
So, um, thank you, guys. Thank you, guys.
305
00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:06,723
Because I would have never really thought
that there was something that I could do.
306
00:21:06,723 --> 00:21:09,351
- So, thank you, guys.
Wow. Wow.
307
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:13,689
Unfortunately, they said the way it works
is that it does go to the DA,
308
00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:17,317
and the DA is the one who will
make, like, the decision to move forward.
309
00:21:17,985 --> 00:21:21,613
Yeah, and we know we need
to get other women to come forward.
310
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Yeah.
311
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You're out, and now I'm sure
you just want to live your life,
312
00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:29,246
and not have to keep revisiting this,
313
00:21:29,246 --> 00:21:33,667
but do you have any ideas
on filing a police report?
314
00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:36,753
Maybe sharing some of the things
you've been through?
315
00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:43,218
I feel like we've reached a point where
it's like... we don't know what else to do.
316
00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:48,807
I see... the effort of your parents,
and you, and other people,
317
00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:54,521
and... I've been asked
to file a police report multiple times.
318
00:21:55,939 --> 00:21:58,734
I didn't because, one, it's not pleasant,
319
00:21:58,734 --> 00:22:02,362
but more importantly I haven't done it
because I felt like
320
00:22:02,362 --> 00:22:05,157
it wouldn't go anywhere,
it wouldn't get anywhere.
321
00:22:10,746 --> 00:22:14,708
How many times do I have to tell people
about what I went through?
322
00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:16,460
I'm not proud of it.
323
00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:21,631
To sit there and, randomly,
two police officers,
324
00:22:21,631 --> 00:22:25,969
one, or two, or three, just random,
whoever's there, whoever's available.
325
00:22:25,969 --> 00:22:27,054
"Sure, next."
326
00:22:28,221 --> 00:22:30,974
"Okay, let's go in.
Tell me what happened to you."
327
00:22:31,558 --> 00:22:35,187
For me to put myself out there, again,
328
00:22:35,687 --> 00:22:39,858
for something
that will not give me a return,
329
00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:41,360
why would I want to do that?
330
00:22:42,277 --> 00:22:44,571
It's easier to just forget it
and walk away.
331
00:22:44,571 --> 00:22:47,157
- One, two, three!
332
00:22:47,157 --> 00:22:49,368
- Whoo!
333
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:51,244
Hip, hip, hooray!
334
00:22:51,244 --> 00:22:53,205
Give me high five! Yes!
335
00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:07,511
She initially started out by saying that...
336
00:23:09,262 --> 00:23:13,308
she's too busy these days
to help take care of Devyn, my daughter.
337
00:23:14,017 --> 00:23:15,227
You wanna sit here?
338
00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:18,939
Then when I started pinning her down,
saying, "That doesn't make sense,"
339
00:23:18,939 --> 00:23:21,733
I quickly realized, for whatever reason,
340
00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:25,028
she wants to spend less time in our lives,
341
00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:27,656
and I just kind of felt like
342
00:23:27,656 --> 00:23:30,700
the fact that she wasn't
around the last seven, eight years...
343
00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:33,870
Like, as my sister,
344
00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:38,250
I would think
she would want to make up for lost time
345
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,085
'cause that's what I want to do.
346
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:42,129
Like, I want to make up for lost time.
347
00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:45,173
But I don't think we're on the same track.
348
00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:53,056
I asked you, when I left Shekinah,
to come with me,
349
00:23:53,056 --> 00:23:54,975
and you said, "No, I'm gonna stay."
350
00:23:54,975 --> 00:23:56,435
And that was like...
351
00:23:57,477 --> 00:23:59,938
It goes down in my books as one of the...
352
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:04,901
one of the moments
where my heart was, like, truly broken.
353
00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:06,319
Because I had no...
354
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:11,616
I knew, if I leave you there,
I didn't know when I was gonna see you.
355
00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:15,537
It took me a while,
but I accepted the fact that
356
00:24:17,164 --> 00:24:20,250
I have to move on, and build my life...
357
00:24:22,252 --> 00:24:25,839
and put myself in the position
to be able to help you
358
00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:28,175
for when you decide to leave.
359
00:24:28,175 --> 00:24:33,013
So every time
we moved from house to house,
360
00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:35,932
- I insisted to David we have a guest room.
- Mm.
361
00:24:35,932 --> 00:24:39,936
But once you came out,
I really had to think about,
362
00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,022
"What's the best way to support her?"
363
00:24:42,939 --> 00:24:45,525
I remember the struggles
that I had when I left,
364
00:24:46,026 --> 00:24:50,030
and I know exactly what you're
going through mentally, emotionally.
365
00:24:50,780 --> 00:24:54,868
I'm here to support you, but I don't know
how to support you if you don't tell me.
366
00:24:56,453 --> 00:24:59,706
- I'm happy to talk about it, but--
- I just need space.
367
00:25:00,457 --> 00:25:04,085
Well, all I'm asking, this is just like--
368
00:25:04,085 --> 00:25:06,796
You're asking me
to do something for you that I can't do.
369
00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:09,216
I don't want you to get upset
because I don't do it.
370
00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:12,427
No, but what I need
in order to have a relationship with you,
371
00:25:12,427 --> 00:25:15,096
is basic level of communication.
372
00:25:15,096 --> 00:25:16,223
Basic? Basic.
373
00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:19,434
Like, for example, for Devyn's birthday,
374
00:25:20,268 --> 00:25:24,397
when you said, "Okay, yeah,
I might be able to help you set up early,"
375
00:25:24,397 --> 00:25:27,317
and then you showed up later,
after it started.
376
00:25:27,817 --> 00:25:31,863
All I wish is that
if you had told me during the party,
377
00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:34,783
like, "I was late because da-da-da-da-da..."
378
00:25:34,783 --> 00:25:37,661
Why do I need to address why I'm late?
379
00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:41,289
Because everyone that showed up late
came to me and said, "Sorry I'm late."
380
00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,043
Like, if I'm late to something--
381
00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,419
It's a party.
382
00:25:46,419 --> 00:25:48,964
Yeah, but it's Devyn's birthday.
383
00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:55,220
- It's not a random party.
- I'm gonna-- Okay, all right, I get it.
384
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:58,056
I think that you are
expecting me to be normal.
385
00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:01,226
"All my friends do this.
Why can't you do it?"
386
00:26:01,851 --> 00:26:03,436
I'm not all your friends.
387
00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:07,107
I am a dysfunctional sister.
388
00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:10,652
To you, it's like, "It's common sense."
389
00:26:10,652 --> 00:26:14,781
"It's Devyn's birthday.
She's my daughter. You're her aunt."
390
00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:17,075
To you, it's common sense.
391
00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:23,081
So I'm having internal issue,
and you think it's about you.
392
00:26:23,873 --> 00:26:26,084
It's not about you. Do...
393
00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:28,086
"How can you not? She's my daughter?"
394
00:26:28,086 --> 00:26:31,464
I don't know what that means.
395
00:26:36,886 --> 00:26:41,057
I don't know what it means
to care about a child!
396
00:26:44,644 --> 00:26:46,688
How can you get mad at me?
397
00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:51,943
Look at me, Melanie!
398
00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:58,366
How can you put that burden on me?
399
00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:03,663
I told you, every day I wanted to die,
400
00:27:03,663 --> 00:27:07,125
and you want me to fucking be on time
with your daughter's birthday party?
401
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,210
Say, "I'm sorry because I'm late"?
402
00:27:10,837 --> 00:27:14,132
I either show up or I kill myself,
which one do you want me to do?
403
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:28,980
I wish I could have a baby.
404
00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:31,775
Like, be pregnant.
405
00:27:32,942 --> 00:27:34,736
I tell myself, "It's okay."
406
00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:37,697
"It's not that important."
407
00:27:42,827 --> 00:27:44,954
There's just so many "what ifs," right?
408
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,669
I could have had four kids by now.
409
00:27:51,961 --> 00:27:54,547
I see pictures of myself in my 20s.
410
00:27:57,926 --> 00:27:58,760
I'm like...
411
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:04,516
"That was 20 years ago."
412
00:28:16,027 --> 00:28:17,362
Like, "What did I do..."
413
00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:21,241
"What did I do for 20 years?"
414
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:28,373
I lost the best years of my life,
415
00:28:29,999 --> 00:28:32,001
so Robert could enjoy his.
416
00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:49,102
Being in Shekinah
messed me up mentally.
417
00:28:52,063 --> 00:28:54,816
{\an8}My passion, my dedication...
418
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,988
my drive for what I've been wanting to do...
419
00:29:01,030 --> 00:29:02,907
I lost a lot of heart.
420
00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:09,914
If I can't give my all to myself,
how can I give my all to somebody else?
421
00:29:11,332 --> 00:29:13,209
We're both two lost people.
422
00:29:13,209 --> 00:29:15,795
We just went through
traumatic experiences.
423
00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:21,426
But since the breakup,
it's just a huge change.
424
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:25,138
Going from being with someone
for almost five years
425
00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:27,098
to, like, being by yourself.
426
00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:34,522
I think that's why it
took me so long to leave Shekinah, because
427
00:29:35,023 --> 00:29:37,400
letting go of things you love is hard.
428
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:47,243
My ambition,
429
00:29:48,077 --> 00:29:50,580
my drive for dancing...
430
00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:53,500
that shit is gone.
431
00:29:54,751 --> 00:29:56,336
I don't want to dance no more.
432
00:29:57,754 --> 00:29:59,422
What the fuck happened to me?
433
00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:02,425
I went in for spiritual guidance,
434
00:30:03,009 --> 00:30:07,847
but I left with church
being tainted to me now.
435
00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:11,059
It's tainted, like, bad-bad.
436
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:16,940
It was really,
really difficult to accept the fact that
437
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:19,818
I let them do that to me.
438
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:23,822
After leaving Shekinah,
439
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:28,076
I cut all my ties
with all the junk of the past.
440
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:42,507
But I think I had to face it.
441
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:45,593
- Very needed to heal.
442
00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:48,847
Hello?
443
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:51,391
Hello.
Jung-min, is that you?
444
00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:53,142
Yes, Dad. It's Jung-min.
445
00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:54,519
How are you?
446
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,437
I'm doing well. How are you?
447
00:30:57,063 --> 00:30:59,566
I think if I talk to my dad,
448
00:31:00,441 --> 00:31:02,235
I'll be able to figure that out.
449
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:05,947
Did you get out last year?
- What do you mean, "I got out last year"?
450
00:31:07,031 --> 00:31:09,993
- You joined a place and then you got out.
- I left last year.
451
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:13,788
I thought it was a church at first,
but it turned out to be a cult.
452
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:17,709
I tried to call you for so many years.
453
00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:18,626
I know.
454
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:23,089
You're my daughter.
There's no accepting or not-accepting.
455
00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:25,758
I wouldn't call myself your daughter.
456
00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:27,927
If I'm being honest with you.
457
00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:30,930
You have to raise someone
to call them your daughter, right?
458
00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:35,894
I'm not saying
that Mom wasn't to blame either.
459
00:31:36,644 --> 00:31:41,357
If one of you hadn't abandoned us,
we wouldn't have ended up in that church.
460
00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:45,612
So, that was your fault.
461
00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:53,995
I really hope that,
deep in your soul, you feel ashamed.
462
00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:55,830
- About what you did.
- I am ashamed.
463
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:57,123
It doesn't seem like it.
464
00:31:58,875 --> 00:32:05,590
Because after I left the cult,
I felt very ashamed of myself.
465
00:32:06,132 --> 00:32:08,134
What? Am I mentally deficient?
466
00:32:08,134 --> 00:32:11,721
I'm not-- I'm not an idiot.
467
00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:14,599
I'm a rather smart and responsible person.
468
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,185
I'm a decent person in a number of ways.
469
00:32:17,185 --> 00:32:19,354
How could I stay in a place
470
00:32:19,854 --> 00:32:25,068
with a horrible person,
thinking God was in him?
471
00:32:25,068 --> 00:32:27,612
- How long were you there for?
- Twenty-three years.
472
00:32:28,154 --> 00:32:29,781
- Huh?
- Twenty-three years.
473
00:32:30,573 --> 00:32:33,284
- When I think about it--
- You were in the cult for 23 years?
474
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:34,243
Yes!
475
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,537
So, when I think about it...
476
00:32:37,246 --> 00:32:39,457
- I thought you were there five years--
- No.
477
00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:42,919
So, when I think about it...
Listen to what I'm telling you.
478
00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:46,047
When I had my realization,
I had deep regret.
479
00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:48,883
I was so ashamed of myself.
480
00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:56,683
And I didn't want to forgive myself,
to the point that I even wanted to die.
481
00:32:57,183 --> 00:33:01,187
And because I am alive, I can move forward
and leave the past behind.
482
00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:04,357
But just because I moved on,
483
00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:08,736
it doesn't mean you weren't at fault.
484
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,072
- Don't you think so?
- The reason for--
485
00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:13,157
- Think about it.
- I know, but the reason--
486
00:33:13,157 --> 00:33:14,242
Don't touch me!
487
00:33:15,118 --> 00:33:16,160
Don't touch me!
488
00:33:21,290 --> 00:33:23,626
With my parents,
it was a child and an adult,
489
00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:25,712
and they had the power over us.
490
00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,839
Hence, they treated us really badly.
491
00:33:28,339 --> 00:33:30,008
And then I was in Shekinah,
492
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:35,513
where definitely it was
a huge gap of seniority and power.
493
00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:40,810
And today is, you know,
the first time in my life where I'm going,
494
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,353
"No, I'm an adult."
495
00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:44,397
"And I'm thinking like an adult,
496
00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:47,400
and I'm judging people
by them being adults,
497
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,986
not as a child looking up to an adult."
498
00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:55,533
And so it's like I took my power back.
499
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:04,584
His name is Robert Shinn.
He's, um... a pastor of a church.
500
00:34:05,251 --> 00:34:08,379
And I'm an additional person coming to...
501
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,757
Additional victim of a crime?
- Yes, to--
502
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:11,924
What crime?
503
00:34:11,924 --> 00:34:15,011
So, for me,
if I tell you my story,
504
00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:18,306
I think it's called rape,
continuously for years.
505
00:34:18,806 --> 00:34:19,891
Beating.
506
00:34:21,142 --> 00:34:26,022
I want Robert to never
be able to do this ever again.
507
00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:28,733
That's the level of justice
that I'm asking.
508
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:32,820
And I know that God will bring justice.
509
00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:43,539
I'm a diva! I'm a...
510
00:34:43,539 --> 00:34:46,793
Hip, and a hip.
Yeah, and then show me the level...
511
00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:51,172
I'll still have crying moments,
and down moments, but I'm also realizing
512
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:54,759
I have to make sure
I'm getting on that path of healing.
513
00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:58,846
I started working at a school
for the performing arts programs,
514
00:34:58,846 --> 00:35:00,723
and then the kids wanted more,
515
00:35:00,723 --> 00:35:03,101
and wanted
to take their dancing to another level.
516
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:09,065
I love creating a safe space for dancers
to be able to let everything out.
517
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:15,113
I realized that, physically,
518
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:17,698
it's just not healthy
for me to hold on to things.
519
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:21,119
"This is what it is.
Where can I go from here?"
520
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:25,206
♪ But I wish there was something ♪
521
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,166
♪ That I could do ♪
522
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:30,545
I said, "You know what?
Let me get back to the love of it."
523
00:35:31,045 --> 00:35:33,506
♪ No, you'll never go back in... ♪
524
00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:36,968
♪ Time ♪
525
00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:42,598
It's so much to work on yourself.
526
00:35:42,598 --> 00:35:45,601
Trying to figure out what
you want in life, what you need to do,
527
00:35:45,601 --> 00:35:47,186
what you have to do in life.
528
00:35:47,186 --> 00:35:49,897
Hornet, can you go in front of Beast?
529
00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:54,318
I'm trying to do everything
that I know I am capable of doing,
530
00:35:54,318 --> 00:35:55,987
know that I have a gift of doing.
531
00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:57,655
Five, six, seven, eight! Boom!
532
00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:02,702
♪ No, you'll never go back in... ♪
533
00:36:05,288 --> 00:36:06,289
♪ Time ♪
534
00:36:10,793 --> 00:36:13,004
♪ Why you think so ♪
535
00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:15,631
♪ No, you'll never go back in... ♪
536
00:36:15,631 --> 00:36:18,676
We've waited a long, long time.
- ♪ Time ♪
537
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:21,470
But let's hope that Robert
could be arrested very soon.
538
00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:25,641
She hasn't been here in
539
00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:29,687
a couple years,
which to us is a very long time.
540
00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:36,068
Seeing her closet
and just kind of... old clothes
541
00:36:36,068 --> 00:36:38,237
that she's left here is...
542
00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:41,908
I don't know. It hasn't been touched.
543
00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:45,494
Like, there's no life in here.
544
00:36:45,494 --> 00:36:48,247
Hasn't been for a while.
545
00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:51,542
So it's just a little,
I don't know, a little eerie.
546
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,961
♪ No, you'll never go back in... ♪
547
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:57,340
♪ Time ♪
548
00:37:05,181 --> 00:37:06,515
The police told us
549
00:37:06,515 --> 00:37:10,061
that they only needed
a few more women to step forward,
550
00:37:10,061 --> 00:37:11,646
and give their stories,
551
00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:15,816
and they would be able to go
and arrest Robert right then and there.
552
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:19,820
But Robert is still not arrested.
553
00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:25,576
I've gone in multiple times.
I've been in two or three times now.
554
00:37:26,077 --> 00:37:30,331
You have to have so much on someone
for an investigation to even start.
555
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:37,129
{\an8}It can be hard to get
a conviction on a sex crime because
556
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:41,300
{\an8}it's often one person's word
against another person's word.
557
00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:45,638
In a case where you're trying to prove
that someone did something
558
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,390
'cause they didn't want to,
559
00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:50,476
then you're talking about,
"What does coercion look like?"
560
00:37:50,476 --> 00:37:52,186
"How do we define coercion?"
561
00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:55,439
Doesn't seem like, societally,
we have figured out a way
562
00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:59,944
to keep it from
turning into an attack on the victim.
563
00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:05,324
Do we not take sexual assault seriously?
564
00:38:05,324 --> 00:38:07,326
It's either a crime or it isn't.
565
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,039
People are gonna see it,
and read it, but it's gonna be silence.
566
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:13,958
{\an8}-It'll be useless.
567
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:16,711
Why? Because the Lord declared it.
And that's it.
568
00:38:16,711 --> 00:38:18,629
That's it!
It is!
569
00:38:18,629 --> 00:38:21,173
Every voice raised up
to accuse you,
570
00:38:21,173 --> 00:38:23,301
every voice will be silenced.
571
00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:42,987
Oh, yeah!
Here it is.
572
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:44,864
Ta-da!
573
00:38:50,494 --> 00:38:53,289
I do love that ornament of Michigan.
574
00:38:56,417 --> 00:38:59,295
Oh my gosh! What is it?
575
00:38:59,879 --> 00:39:02,715
- Is it something I've always wanted?
Yes.
576
00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:04,842
Talking about
this blizzard coming through...
577
00:39:04,842 --> 00:39:08,512
I was thinking we could say, "Are you sure
you don't want to stay here?"
578
00:39:08,512 --> 00:39:10,264
Which could be amazing.
579
00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:12,516
I really just want it to be like,
580
00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:14,852
"Come in, and just like forget everything,
581
00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:18,105
and let's just almost pretend
like nothing happened."
582
00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:20,900
You know? Like, just to...
583
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,986
That's all...
That's all we've ever done.
584
00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:26,739
What's that?
"That's all we've ever done"?
585
00:39:26,739 --> 00:39:29,283
Is just pretend
like nothing happened.
586
00:39:32,411 --> 00:39:33,537
Well...
587
00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:36,540
Yeah, because the only times
you've ever said anything, she said,
588
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:39,835
"I'm not gonna see you again
if you keep talking about it."
589
00:39:40,669 --> 00:39:41,504
Right.
590
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:55,142
It went as well
as it could have, I guess.
591
00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:58,938
They came over on Christmas, we hung out.
592
00:39:59,438 --> 00:40:01,357
You know, everyone got presents.
593
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:07,196
It was as normal as it could have been
'cause we didn't say anything.
594
00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:09,615
Nothing was talked about.
595
00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:15,413
But we got our, you know, picture
of all of us in matching pajamas, and...
596
00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:18,165
Oh my gosh.
597
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:20,960
It's all for show.
598
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:24,672
It's just so she can take video,
and post it online,
599
00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:28,342
and then the public is happy,
and Robert's happy.
600
00:40:30,177 --> 00:40:31,804
When we have Christmas,
601
00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:34,265
I don't care
whether you want to go or not, you go.
602
00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:38,561
If you cut their family,
all it does is cause us trouble.
603
00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:39,854
Yes, it does!
604
00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:44,483
She's obviously
been fed a narrative
605
00:40:44,483 --> 00:40:46,819
for the years that she's been in there.
606
00:40:46,819 --> 00:40:49,530
It downplays
everything that we went through.
607
00:40:50,656 --> 00:40:55,035
I was saying, "We went over a year
without hearing your voice."
608
00:40:55,035 --> 00:40:57,788
And she's like,
"You act like a year is a long time."
609
00:40:57,788 --> 00:40:59,165
"It's not a long time."
610
00:41:04,628 --> 00:41:09,592
To hear that was pretty devastating,
but it was the clarity I needed.
611
00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,511
It was... I needed to hear where she was at.
612
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,019
She has put everyone in my family
through so much hurt.
613
00:41:20,853 --> 00:41:23,481
My parents never stopped fighting for her.
614
00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:28,152
Desperately trying anything
to get her out.
615
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:34,366
I know she's brainwashed,
and I know it's not her,
616
00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:39,163
but then in thinking of my wedding day...
617
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,709
I initially thought, regardless,
618
00:41:43,709 --> 00:41:46,504
I would want to ask her
to be my maid of honor,
619
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:51,175
have her be there with me,
because that's what I always dreamed of.
620
00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:58,140
But it just doesn't sit right
with me right now, which is...
621
00:41:58,140 --> 00:42:00,559
It's so... It's so hard.
622
00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:04,939
But then I think of,
down the line, am I gonna regret that?
623
00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:08,734
Am I gonna regret
not having my sister at my wedding?
624
00:42:12,112 --> 00:42:13,364
It's...
625
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:14,323
I don't know.
626
00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:17,701
I feel like my mind changes
every single day.
627
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:21,664
- Hi.
Say, "My name is Melanie."
628
00:42:21,664 --> 00:42:23,791
My name is Melanie.
629
00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:27,670
Who's that over there?
Who's that girl?
630
00:42:28,629 --> 00:42:30,381
Miranda.
- I'm Miranda.
631
00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:34,009
Miranda.
632
00:42:34,009 --> 00:42:37,555
My fiancé has only seen the hurt
633
00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:39,348
that my sister has put me through.
634
00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:42,560
And he keeps saying, like,
635
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,396
"This day is about you.
It's not about her."
636
00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:47,106
"You need to be happy."
637
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:49,358
And he knows that
638
00:42:50,526 --> 00:42:53,696
this whole situation just brings me down.
639
00:42:54,196 --> 00:42:57,449
And he just doesn't want me
to have to go through that.
640
00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:08,877
I was trying to be someone
I wasn't to please people in Shekinah,
641
00:43:08,877 --> 00:43:10,504
to please Robert.
642
00:43:11,255 --> 00:43:15,593
When you're trying to fit a mold
that's not you, nothing is gonna work.
643
00:43:15,593 --> 00:43:17,928
But when you're not trying to fit a mold,
644
00:43:17,928 --> 00:43:20,681
and you're just focused on being you,
you're gonna shine.
645
00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:22,933
♪ If you see her out there ♪
646
00:43:24,143 --> 00:43:25,978
{\an8}♪ Behind the wheel ♪
647
00:43:25,978 --> 00:43:30,232
Coming out of Shekinah,
relearning who I am, what I want to do,
648
00:43:30,232 --> 00:43:33,152
I realized this is what I'm meant
to be doing.
649
00:43:36,155 --> 00:43:38,490
This is the best thing
that I've ever done.
650
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:40,784
♪ Whole damn world is a cage ♪
651
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,457
{\an8}♪ But that's just life ♪
652
00:43:47,333 --> 00:43:51,170
At first,
I had to kind of distance myself
653
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:53,922
from what people were saying,
654
00:43:53,922 --> 00:43:57,968
and just know, like,
my story has just begun.
655
00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:02,181
I'm gonna continue to keep pushing
and keep doing what I love to do.
656
00:44:03,015 --> 00:44:05,476
♪ Oh God, I hope she escapes ♪
657
00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:08,896
I just found that balance, you know? Um...
658
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:11,899
That balance was doing what I want to do
659
00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,985
and how I was put on this Earth to do it.
660
00:44:14,985 --> 00:44:16,904
{\an8}♪ But that's just life ♪
661
00:44:18,238 --> 00:44:20,658
♪ I lived it twice ♪
662
00:44:21,158 --> 00:44:23,619
♪ I treat you right ♪
663
00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:26,955
♪ The way you taught me ♪
664
00:44:27,790 --> 00:44:29,208
♪ That's just life ♪
665
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:31,210
Even though we're sisters,
666
00:44:32,044 --> 00:44:35,172
we're starting a relationship
for the first time in our lives,
667
00:44:35,172 --> 00:44:37,966
and I'm so grateful.
668
00:44:40,886 --> 00:44:42,763
♪ If you see her out there ♪
669
00:44:42,763 --> 00:44:46,141
I definitely still miss her.
670
00:44:46,725 --> 00:44:48,268
If she's out, and she's...
671
00:44:48,268 --> 00:44:51,271
You know, "Hey, I'm at this address,
pick me up," I'm there.
672
00:44:51,271 --> 00:44:53,941
♪ Oh God, I hope she escapes ♪
673
00:44:54,775 --> 00:44:57,277
But, you know, life continues.
674
00:44:57,277 --> 00:44:59,363
♪ Whole damn world is a cage ♪
675
00:45:00,197 --> 00:45:03,033
I'm not gonna have someone control me.
676
00:45:03,575 --> 00:45:05,619
♪ But that's just life ♪
677
00:45:06,745 --> 00:45:08,664
♪ I lived it twice ♪
678
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,917
♪ I treat you right ♪
679
00:45:12,584 --> 00:45:15,462
♪ The way you taught me ♪
680
00:45:15,462 --> 00:45:17,339
♪ That's just life ♪
681
00:45:18,632 --> 00:45:21,260
♪ I lived it twice ♪
682
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:24,263
♪ So I say good night ♪
683
00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:27,057
♪ Don't say it softly ♪
684
00:45:51,790 --> 00:45:55,377
Can I open this, Mommy?
I want to, it's heavy!
685
00:45:55,377 --> 00:45:58,130
{\an8}It's a brand-new helmet!
686
00:46:07,347 --> 00:46:09,892
We'll get 'em back, right?
We'll help get 'em back.
687
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:16,064
♪ Start from the top
You are not ♪
688
00:46:17,024 --> 00:46:22,529
♪ Anything I wanted
But I want you so bad ♪
689
00:46:23,655 --> 00:46:26,950
{\an8}♪ I want you so bad ♪
690
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:33,207
♪ One more hit and then I'll quit ♪
691
00:46:33,207 --> 00:46:37,961
♪ The angel on my shoulder whispers
"Don't give in, don't give in," ♪
692
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:42,132
♪ But I promise, tomorrow I'll listen ♪
693
00:46:42,132 --> 00:46:50,849
♪ Dance with the devil one more time ♪
694
00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:55,187
♪ Slow decline to lose your mind ♪
695
00:46:55,187 --> 00:47:00,275
♪ Dance with the devil one more time ♪
696
00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:02,736
God says you cannot be defeated.
697
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,198
Anyone who speaks against me are wrong.
698
00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:09,326
- I cannot be defeated.
699
00:47:09,326 --> 00:47:12,871
- Somebody say, "I cannot be defeated."
I cannot be defeated!
700
00:47:22,256 --> 00:47:25,759
♪ But I promise, tomorrow I'll listen ♪
701
00:47:25,759 --> 00:47:34,518
♪ Dance with the devil one more time ♪
702
00:47:34,518 --> 00:47:38,856
♪ Slow decline to lose your mind ♪
703
00:47:38,856 --> 00:47:44,278
♪ Dance with the devil one more time ♪
704
00:47:56,373 --> 00:48:02,546
♪ Dance with the devil one more time ♪