1 00:00:02,570 --> 00:00:05,005 ("Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who playing) 2 00:00:05,106 --> 00:00:08,442 NARRATOR: CSI: Miami, the global television phenomenon. 3 00:00:08,542 --> 00:00:10,511 * * 4 00:00:10,611 --> 00:00:13,847 In this series, we'll explore crime 5 00:00:13,947 --> 00:00:15,416 through an entirely new lens. 6 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:17,418 DISPATCHER: Marlene Warren was just shot. 7 00:00:17,518 --> 00:00:21,055 The investigations on this program are true. 8 00:00:21,155 --> 00:00:25,059 Ride along with the real CSI experts. 9 00:00:25,159 --> 00:00:26,060 VINCE WEINER: This was most brutal homicide 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,261 in over 25 years. 11 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:28,962 CRUX CONCEPTION: Forensic science, 12 00:00:29,063 --> 00:00:30,564 it was the key witness. 13 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:32,366 NARRATOR: Talk to the real suspects. 14 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:34,168 I didn't kill anybody, dude. 15 00:00:34,268 --> 00:00:36,504 NARRATOR: Hear from the real victims. 16 00:00:36,604 --> 00:00:38,872 I couldn't believe it. I'm in a state of shock. 17 00:00:38,972 --> 00:00:41,909 NARRATOR: And ultimately solve the case 18 00:00:42,009 --> 00:00:44,878 through the use of forensic science. 19 00:00:44,978 --> 00:00:47,215 We still have a homicide suspect somewhere out there. 20 00:00:47,315 --> 00:00:49,450 NARRATOR: This is... WOMAN: A murderer... 21 00:00:49,550 --> 00:00:52,052 REPORTER: A disturbing story has come in... (overlapping voices) 22 00:01:04,364 --> 00:01:06,500 REPORTER: On Sunday, the retired ob-gyn 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,036 was found shot to death in his Jupiter home. 24 00:01:09,137 --> 00:01:12,340 Guns, jewelry, and upward of $100,000 cash 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,375 taken from his home. 26 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:18,146 I'm a retired detective from the homicide unit 27 00:01:18,246 --> 00:01:19,780 at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. 28 00:01:24,551 --> 00:01:27,121 The sheriff's office received a phone call early that morning 29 00:01:27,221 --> 00:01:30,624 regarding the request for a welfare check on an individual 30 00:01:30,724 --> 00:01:32,560 that lived in Jupiter Farms. 31 00:01:33,694 --> 00:01:36,464 Deputies get to the location. 32 00:01:36,564 --> 00:01:38,866 The rear doors were open. 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,470 They entered with weapons drawn for their safety. 34 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:44,205 And when they entered the bedroom, 35 00:01:44,305 --> 00:01:46,707 they locate a white male laying on the floor... 36 00:01:48,542 --> 00:01:50,777 ..with blood coming from his body 37 00:01:50,878 --> 00:01:53,247 and other evidence a shooting had occurred. 38 00:01:54,914 --> 00:01:59,587 They very carefully withdraw, not to disturb any more evidence 39 00:01:59,687 --> 00:02:01,255 until detectives respond. 40 00:02:02,323 --> 00:02:03,891 I got the call with the rest of the squad. 41 00:02:03,991 --> 00:02:04,958 (siren wailing) 42 00:02:05,058 --> 00:02:06,126 We got to the home, 43 00:02:06,227 --> 00:02:08,095 and there's a fence 44 00:02:08,196 --> 00:02:10,298 all the way around the property. 45 00:02:10,398 --> 00:02:11,932 Went around to the rear of the house. 46 00:02:13,167 --> 00:02:14,802 The rear French doors open. 47 00:02:14,902 --> 00:02:16,404 In the home, 48 00:02:16,504 --> 00:02:18,439 I see papers strewn about. 49 00:02:18,539 --> 00:02:21,442 Drawers had been pulled out and dumped. 50 00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:27,348 The TV's on, it looks like something was sudden. 51 00:02:27,448 --> 00:02:29,917 There were groceries that hadn't been put away in the kitchen. 52 00:02:31,385 --> 00:02:33,687 Due to the condition of the house, it appears 53 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:37,458 that there was a attempted burglary. 54 00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:43,531 We proceeded to the bedroom. 55 00:02:43,631 --> 00:02:45,366 There were clothes that had been strewn aside. 56 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:47,701 It appeared they had been dumped out of a suitcase 57 00:02:47,801 --> 00:02:49,837 and drawers in the room. 58 00:02:49,937 --> 00:02:53,307 The victim was laying on the floor face down. 59 00:02:54,608 --> 00:02:56,143 My name is Steve Murphy. I'm a retired special agent 60 00:02:56,244 --> 00:02:58,812 with the Drug Enforcement Administration. 61 00:02:58,912 --> 00:03:01,382 Was a police officer for 38 years. 62 00:03:01,482 --> 00:03:02,883 There was a gunshot wound to the right cheek. 63 00:03:04,385 --> 00:03:07,020 Which, typically, a headshot wound is fatal. 64 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,822 There was a second gunshot wound 65 00:03:08,922 --> 00:03:12,260 in the armpit shoulder area. 66 00:03:13,727 --> 00:03:17,231 I've been at hundreds of murder scenes. 67 00:03:18,332 --> 00:03:20,334 And the amount of blood I saw was consistent 68 00:03:20,434 --> 00:03:21,935 with multiple gunshot wounds. 69 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:23,937 Pretty quickly, we saw that there was 70 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:26,907 a shell casing very near the body. 71 00:03:29,777 --> 00:03:30,878 MURPHY: A spent shell casing 72 00:03:30,978 --> 00:03:33,213 indicating that a semiautomatic pistol 73 00:03:33,314 --> 00:03:35,549 or a rifle had been used. 74 00:03:40,954 --> 00:03:43,156 But they didn't see a weapon. 75 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:45,692 DRAKE: In these cases, we don't move the body. 76 00:03:45,793 --> 00:03:48,228 We notify the medical examiner, 77 00:03:48,329 --> 00:03:51,432 and they come out and do their own independent investigation 78 00:03:51,531 --> 00:03:54,535 that is parallel with ours. 79 00:03:55,668 --> 00:03:58,439 We positively identified the decedent 80 00:03:58,539 --> 00:04:00,974 as Dr. Ronald Schwartz, the individual that we're there 81 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:04,445 in the first place to do the welfare check on. 82 00:04:06,347 --> 00:04:07,881 MURPHY: Dr. Ronald Schwartz. 83 00:04:07,981 --> 00:04:10,017 He is a retired gynecologist. 84 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:11,084 He had a practice 85 00:04:11,184 --> 00:04:12,219 in Atlanta, Georgia. 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,221 Very successful in his career. 87 00:04:14,322 --> 00:04:17,124 Ron Schwartz was one of my... 88 00:04:17,224 --> 00:04:19,427 probably top three longtime friends. 89 00:04:20,528 --> 00:04:22,330 Met him at Emory University 90 00:04:22,430 --> 00:04:24,932 when we were in medical school together. 91 00:04:25,032 --> 00:04:26,900 This was... 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,471 a completely unexpected event that occurred. 93 00:04:30,571 --> 00:04:31,939 It's one of the most shocking things 94 00:04:32,039 --> 00:04:34,107 that I've experienced during my lifetime. 95 00:04:36,043 --> 00:04:37,978 KATHY TENENBAUM: One of our good friends said, 96 00:04:38,078 --> 00:04:40,981 "Ron is gone." 97 00:04:41,081 --> 00:04:44,418 I said, "Gone where?" 98 00:04:44,518 --> 00:04:47,621 And he said, "He's dead." 99 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,159 All the way down from Georgia to Florida, 100 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:55,596 when I drove, I kept thinking, "He's not dead. 101 00:04:55,696 --> 00:04:57,965 He just needs me to help him." I guess it was shock. 102 00:04:58,065 --> 00:04:59,332 Reality was not really there. 103 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:01,469 * * 104 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:10,310 DRAKE: We learned that Ron Schwartz had a small circle of friends, 105 00:05:10,411 --> 00:05:15,616 and they seemed genuinely close and caring for him. 106 00:05:15,716 --> 00:05:18,352 Dr. Schwartz was married many years ago. 107 00:05:18,452 --> 00:05:19,487 He was divorced. 108 00:05:19,587 --> 00:05:20,988 He had no children 109 00:05:21,088 --> 00:05:25,693 and no close relatives in the area to speak of. 110 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:32,500 MURPHY: Dr. Schwartz was adept at the financial markets. 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,234 His nickname became 112 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,970 Blue Chip because he knew about financial investments 113 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:38,606 and how to reap profits from that. 114 00:05:40,374 --> 00:05:44,177 He had a beautiful house, wealthy piece of property. 115 00:05:44,277 --> 00:05:46,980 Had the nice cars, the collector's edition Mustang. 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,849 Cadillac Escalade. 117 00:05:48,949 --> 00:05:50,283 Turns out he owned three different boats. 118 00:05:51,784 --> 00:05:53,320 That indicates a level of wealth. 119 00:05:55,723 --> 00:05:57,691 * * 120 00:05:57,791 --> 00:05:59,993 The crime scene investigators are looking for 121 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:01,929 pieces of evidence, ideas, leads, clues 122 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:04,197 as to what took place. 123 00:06:05,966 --> 00:06:08,068 One of the things that CSI investigators 124 00:06:08,168 --> 00:06:09,803 typically look for are fingerprints. 125 00:06:10,638 --> 00:06:13,073 They're gonna dust common touch areas. 126 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:15,643 In this case, the two doors were open, 127 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:17,210 so you've got to dust the doorknobs 128 00:06:17,310 --> 00:06:18,779 as well as the door frames. 129 00:06:19,913 --> 00:06:22,516 This is the home of a wealthy retired doctor, 130 00:06:22,616 --> 00:06:25,252 a single man living in a nice house by himself, 131 00:06:25,352 --> 00:06:27,054 where presumably there are some very nice items. 132 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:28,188 There are televisions, 133 00:06:28,288 --> 00:06:30,090 electronics gear, furniture, 134 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:31,925 whatever it might be. 135 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:35,863 And at this point, we don't know what's missing or what's there. 136 00:06:35,963 --> 00:06:37,397 So, now they've got a treasure trove 137 00:06:37,498 --> 00:06:42,034 of things to look for and start cataloging. 138 00:06:42,135 --> 00:06:44,404 CSI investigators found a little over 139 00:06:44,505 --> 00:06:46,239 $109,000 in cash. 140 00:06:50,143 --> 00:06:51,579 I'd like to have that kind of money around my house. 141 00:06:52,212 --> 00:06:54,948 Part of that cash that was found was 142 00:06:55,048 --> 00:06:57,918 large stacks of two-dollar bills. 143 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:01,622 It's not something that you see in a normal household. 144 00:07:05,993 --> 00:07:08,462 They found a series of Swiss gold francs, 145 00:07:08,562 --> 00:07:11,799 golden eagle coins that were worth, 146 00:07:11,899 --> 00:07:15,202 combined with the cash, over a million dollars. 147 00:07:18,405 --> 00:07:20,974 Coming into a crime scene like this, 148 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:22,375 we see things that 149 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:25,245 would typically be taken in a robbery that weren't. 150 00:07:25,345 --> 00:07:26,880 Televisions, 151 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:28,649 electronics gear, 152 00:07:28,749 --> 00:07:30,784 things that are easily mobile for criminals 153 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:32,786 to take away with them. 154 00:07:32,886 --> 00:07:34,187 So, what's that tell you about the crime scene? 155 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,089 Was there another motive 156 00:07:36,189 --> 00:07:37,957 that resulted in a murder? 157 00:07:38,058 --> 00:07:39,927 Also, the proximity of the shell casing to the body 158 00:07:40,027 --> 00:07:41,795 was about a foot away. 159 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:45,065 The position of that shell casing does 160 00:07:45,165 --> 00:07:47,868 tell you that it was very close up and personal. 161 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:52,239 So investigators looked into Dr. Schwartz's personal life. 162 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:56,677 BERTHA HURTADO: Ronald Schwartz was very private. 163 00:07:56,777 --> 00:07:59,947 He wasn't the type of person who would go out much 164 00:08:00,047 --> 00:08:01,214 or hang out with people. 165 00:08:01,314 --> 00:08:04,451 He would be very close to his close friends, 166 00:08:04,552 --> 00:08:06,720 the ones that he allowed into his life. 167 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:10,691 My name is Bertha Hurtado, and I'm a crime scene technician. 168 00:08:10,791 --> 00:08:14,695 Ronald Schwartz was preparing himself for 169 00:08:14,795 --> 00:08:16,764 a financial governmental tragedy. 170 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:21,334 He believed that something major 171 00:08:21,434 --> 00:08:24,204 was gonna happen within the government, 172 00:08:24,304 --> 00:08:26,373 and things were going to 173 00:08:26,473 --> 00:08:28,441 go downhill fairly quickly. 174 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:32,312 MURPHY: Investigators were able to talk to friends 175 00:08:32,412 --> 00:08:34,414 of Dr. Schwartz, and that started to help 176 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,515 to develop a picture of his lifestyle. 177 00:08:36,616 --> 00:08:38,686 One of the things they learned was that 178 00:08:38,786 --> 00:08:40,888 he actually had a plan that if something did happen 179 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:42,522 to the government here in the United States 180 00:08:42,623 --> 00:08:43,991 and the financial markets did collapse, 181 00:08:44,091 --> 00:08:46,093 he was gonna take the wealth that he had accumulated 182 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:47,227 and take one of his boats. 183 00:08:47,327 --> 00:08:49,329 He was gonna head to the Bahamas. 184 00:08:52,165 --> 00:08:54,034 BRINKLEY: Ron was really conservative politically, 185 00:08:54,134 --> 00:08:55,335 and he was very disappointed 186 00:08:55,435 --> 00:08:59,873 in the, uh, probability that a certain candidate 187 00:08:59,973 --> 00:09:02,409 in another political party might win the election. 188 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:04,544 If the country went to hell, 189 00:09:04,645 --> 00:09:06,714 he was ready for us to all get on one of his boats. 190 00:09:06,814 --> 00:09:08,982 He called us his posse. 191 00:09:09,082 --> 00:09:10,884 A couple of them were physicians 192 00:09:10,984 --> 00:09:12,485 that he knew from medical school. 193 00:09:12,586 --> 00:09:14,054 One was a good, dear friend 194 00:09:14,154 --> 00:09:16,323 that he met out and about in Atlanta. 195 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:19,259 His attorney, his CPA, 196 00:09:19,359 --> 00:09:21,929 the boat guy, and me. 197 00:09:22,029 --> 00:09:23,063 We were all his posse. 198 00:09:24,164 --> 00:09:26,066 BRINKLEY: He said, "I'm trying to get a list of my friends 199 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:30,203 that might want to move to the Bahamas when I move." 200 00:09:30,303 --> 00:09:31,939 He requested that 201 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:34,975 his attorney friend in Atlanta, who had a place in the Bahamas, 202 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:38,411 take him aboard his boat and show him how to navigate 203 00:09:38,511 --> 00:09:41,148 from the east coast of Florida to the Bahamas. 204 00:09:41,248 --> 00:09:43,083 * * 205 00:09:43,183 --> 00:09:44,484 MURPHY: I guess he thought he'll go over there 206 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:45,919 and do the best he can 207 00:09:46,019 --> 00:09:47,621 until things stabilize here in the United States. 208 00:09:47,721 --> 00:09:50,057 BRINKLEY: Over a period of time when he wasn't 209 00:09:50,157 --> 00:09:52,259 making preps for the possibility of relocating, 210 00:09:52,359 --> 00:09:54,327 he would transfer cash 211 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:56,229 from his bank accounts and store it away 212 00:09:56,329 --> 00:09:57,297 in his home. 213 00:09:57,397 --> 00:09:58,799 MURPHY: Dr. Schwartz was known 214 00:09:58,899 --> 00:10:00,668 to hide money, 215 00:10:00,768 --> 00:10:02,435 and other people know where they can find 216 00:10:02,535 --> 00:10:04,404 his hidden stashes. 217 00:10:04,504 --> 00:10:05,906 One was under the kitchen sink, 218 00:10:06,006 --> 00:10:07,474 the other was under the bathroom vanity 219 00:10:07,574 --> 00:10:09,542 in hidden drawers. 220 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:11,912 Those are details that you don't tell anybody. 221 00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:13,647 But we know his very closest friends 222 00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:15,282 will know about him hoarding cash 223 00:10:15,382 --> 00:10:17,317 and him hoarding gold. 224 00:10:18,418 --> 00:10:20,320 DRAKE: This person that murdered Ron, 225 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:22,089 was is somebody that he was familiar with? 226 00:10:22,189 --> 00:10:25,625 With the enormous amount of funds and gold 227 00:10:25,726 --> 00:10:27,795 that were recovered from the home, 228 00:10:27,895 --> 00:10:29,596 it's reasonable to believe that someone knew 229 00:10:29,697 --> 00:10:32,432 that he had that much money. 230 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:39,472 BRINKLEY: The detectives wanted to know if I knew anyone 231 00:10:39,572 --> 00:10:42,609 who might have some reason to hurt Ron. 232 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:44,778 I mentioned that he had concerns about 233 00:10:44,878 --> 00:10:47,614 a possible ex-girlfriend in the Atlanta area. 234 00:10:48,816 --> 00:10:50,984 The majority of homicides, from my experience, 235 00:10:51,084 --> 00:10:52,419 are people that know you. 236 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:56,189 One of the first people that you look at 237 00:10:56,289 --> 00:10:59,659 is the intimate partner of the victim. 238 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,463 Domestic violence is the premise 239 00:11:03,563 --> 00:11:05,899 of a lot of our cases. 240 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:09,502 That jealousy and rage of that relationship 241 00:11:09,602 --> 00:11:11,604 often turns into a murder. 242 00:11:13,573 --> 00:11:17,177 Is she a jilted lover that had issues with Ron? 243 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:22,315 Prior to Ron's death, Ron called one of his closest friend 244 00:11:22,415 --> 00:11:25,185 and who was not available for a call, but he felt the need to 245 00:11:25,285 --> 00:11:28,989 leave a message with his friend about his concerns. 246 00:11:30,123 --> 00:11:31,324 Ron was so lighthearted. 247 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:33,393 He just never seemed to worry that much. 248 00:11:33,493 --> 00:11:37,731 But when I heard that voice message from Ron, 249 00:11:37,831 --> 00:11:40,200 it was, um, shocking. 250 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,221 MURPHY: So, at this point, our theory 251 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:02,923 of what happened that day is... 252 00:12:05,292 --> 00:12:07,460 ...Ron's ex-girlfriend drove from Atlanta 253 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,262 all the way down to Jupiter, Florida, 254 00:12:09,362 --> 00:12:11,932 shows up at Ron's house. 255 00:12:12,032 --> 00:12:14,601 She goes around back and finds the French doors unlocked. 256 00:12:14,701 --> 00:12:16,269 Ron said, "Look, get out of my house. 257 00:12:16,369 --> 00:12:18,271 You're an intruder. I need you to leave." 258 00:12:18,371 --> 00:12:22,375 He grabs a weapon, and she pulls her gun out. 259 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:24,111 Somehow, Ron gets shot in the tussle. 260 00:12:24,211 --> 00:12:25,245 (gunshot) 261 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:26,246 MURPHY: She finishes him off 262 00:12:26,346 --> 00:12:27,714 by shooting him in the face. 263 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:31,418 Then she wants to create the illusion 264 00:12:31,518 --> 00:12:33,286 of a burglary gone bad, 265 00:12:33,386 --> 00:12:37,357 and she creates this mess to throw investigators off. 266 00:12:37,457 --> 00:12:39,459 This is a lead that has to be followed up on. 267 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,594 Absolutely. 268 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:52,672 We learned that Ronald Schwartz had a former girlfriend. 269 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:56,944 MURPHY: Ron called a friend to talk about his ex-girlfriend. 270 00:12:57,044 --> 00:12:58,611 His friend didn't answer the phone, 271 00:12:58,711 --> 00:13:00,848 but he left a fairly long voice message for him. 272 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:22,535 MURPHY: This could be some type of revenge 273 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,104 that she wants against him 274 00:13:24,204 --> 00:13:25,973 for reasons that, to her, 275 00:13:26,073 --> 00:13:27,607 are extremely important. 276 00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:32,345 Investigators travel up to speak with her in person. 277 00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:34,014 During their conversation, 278 00:13:34,114 --> 00:13:36,549 they determined that this is a situation 279 00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:37,951 that she couldn't get over. 280 00:13:38,051 --> 00:13:39,286 DRAKE: She believed that 281 00:13:39,386 --> 00:13:40,820 she was going to marry Ron, 282 00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:42,289 and she was angry that that didn't happen. 283 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:46,326 You usually just get over a breakup and you move on. 284 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:48,328 It doesn't sound like she had moved on at all. 285 00:13:50,763 --> 00:13:52,665 DRAKE: In an investigation, 286 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:54,701 part of the potential evidence are cell phone records. 287 00:13:54,801 --> 00:13:57,070 Cell phone records can place you 288 00:13:57,170 --> 00:14:00,740 at a specific place, at a specific time on a date. 289 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,243 MURPHY: And from her phone records, they determined that, 290 00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:04,511 for several weeks prior to Ron's death 291 00:14:04,611 --> 00:14:07,080 and several weeks after Ron's death, 292 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:09,749 her telephone did not leave the Atlanta area. 293 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,618 HURTADO: Ronald's ex-girlfriend, 294 00:14:11,718 --> 00:14:14,187 she may not have pulled the trigger, but could she have 295 00:14:14,287 --> 00:14:15,755 hired somebody to do it for her? 296 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:17,224 MURPHY: Could it have been a murder for hire? 297 00:14:17,324 --> 00:14:18,892 That's possible, but they were 298 00:14:18,992 --> 00:14:21,328 not led to believe that, following her interview. 299 00:14:23,263 --> 00:14:25,165 HURTADO: Investigators realized 300 00:14:25,265 --> 00:14:27,000 fairly quickly that 301 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:28,835 Ronald Schwartz's ex-girlfriend 302 00:14:28,936 --> 00:14:31,939 could not have been involved in the murder 303 00:14:32,039 --> 00:14:35,208 because there was no hard evidence 304 00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:36,709 implicating her. 305 00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:38,878 She was angry and she was hurt, 306 00:14:38,979 --> 00:14:40,780 but it was a stretch to believe 307 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,184 that she would carry it to the point of harming Ron. 308 00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:51,124 MURPHY: The evidence is gonna tell you what happened in the crime. 309 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:55,295 Unfortunately, with the 310 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:56,796 processing of the fingerprints, 311 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,932 there was nothing recovered. 312 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:00,968 MUPRHY: The only known prints 313 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:02,936 found from dusting that entire house 314 00:15:03,036 --> 00:15:04,404 belonged to Dr. Schwartz. 315 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:08,976 So, at this point, investigators don't seem to have anything. 316 00:15:09,076 --> 00:15:12,445 They go back to the body to look for clues. 317 00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:15,182 HURTADO: Once a person passes, 318 00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:18,385 the body goes through different stages of decomposition. 319 00:15:18,485 --> 00:15:20,753 One of the most notorious is rigor mortis, 320 00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:22,990 where the body begins to stiffen. 321 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:26,593 And after a 12-hour period, 322 00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:28,295 the muscles begin to relax. 323 00:15:28,395 --> 00:15:30,397 That's when the body becomes a lot more malleable. 324 00:15:30,497 --> 00:15:34,267 So, by the time the body is sent to the medical examiners, 325 00:15:34,367 --> 00:15:36,403 there's no more rigor mortis. 326 00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:38,738 That would indicate to investigators that 327 00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:42,575 Ronald Schwartz was deceased for over 12 hours. 328 00:15:44,244 --> 00:15:47,280 DRAKE: The result of the autopsy came out, 329 00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:49,116 and the medical examiner's office determined that 330 00:15:49,216 --> 00:15:50,950 the manner and cause of death was 331 00:15:51,051 --> 00:15:53,153 homicide by multiple gunshot wounds. 332 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,990 There was a circular defect 333 00:15:57,090 --> 00:16:00,493 consistent with a gunshot wound on the right cheek. 334 00:16:00,593 --> 00:16:04,464 The trajectory went from the cheekbone 335 00:16:04,564 --> 00:16:07,000 and then traveling in between 336 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,901 the backside 337 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:11,004 and the side of your head. 338 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:13,640 DRAKE: The second wound was 339 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:15,608 just underneath the armpit. 340 00:16:16,609 --> 00:16:18,011 HURTADO: Both injuries, 341 00:16:18,111 --> 00:16:19,346 there was an entrance, 342 00:16:19,446 --> 00:16:22,282 but there was no exit wound whatsoever. 343 00:16:22,382 --> 00:16:25,318 And both projectiles were lodged 344 00:16:25,418 --> 00:16:27,320 inside the body. 345 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:30,023 When a bullet fires through a barrel, it leaves 346 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,359 marks on the bullet, striations, 347 00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:34,727 and that comes from the lands and grooves within the barrel 348 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:38,131 that causes the bullet to spin, which increases the accuracy. 349 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:39,499 So, the recovery of those projectiles 350 00:16:39,599 --> 00:16:41,634 was extremely important, 351 00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:43,836 vital evidence that was preserved 352 00:16:43,936 --> 00:16:45,472 because it can be examined, 353 00:16:45,572 --> 00:16:48,075 and a weapon can be matched 354 00:16:48,175 --> 00:16:50,210 to those projectiles. 355 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:52,579 The projectiles recovered during autopsy 356 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,048 were consistent with a nine millimeter 357 00:16:55,148 --> 00:16:56,183 or .40 caliber bullet. 358 00:16:56,283 --> 00:16:59,719 This is important because the shell casing 359 00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:03,022 discovered at the scene was a .40 caliber. 360 00:17:03,123 --> 00:17:04,290 This confirms to investigators 361 00:17:04,391 --> 00:17:05,458 that the murder weapon 362 00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:07,359 was a .40 caliber firearm. 363 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:09,896 Our firearms lab did submit 364 00:17:09,996 --> 00:17:12,898 those projectiles into a system called NIBIN. 365 00:17:12,999 --> 00:17:14,967 MURPHY: NIBIN stands for the 366 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:17,270 National Integrated Ballistics Identification Network. 367 00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:20,440 It's a database that will hopefully match 368 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:21,941 those projectiles to the murder weapon, 369 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,410 if a weapon is found. 370 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,744 DRAKE: Those projectiles were entered 371 00:17:25,845 --> 00:17:28,214 into the NIBIN system and compared 372 00:17:28,315 --> 00:17:30,950 across the country to other crime guns, 373 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,819 but there was no match at that time. 374 00:17:34,354 --> 00:17:37,424 Our next efforts were to determine who 375 00:17:37,524 --> 00:17:39,526 were the people that frequented his home. 376 00:17:39,626 --> 00:17:40,693 Did he have employees, 377 00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:42,462 landscape people, maids, 378 00:17:42,562 --> 00:17:43,863 et cetera? 379 00:17:43,963 --> 00:17:46,233 Homicide detectives start talking to the neighbors 380 00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:48,135 to see if maybe one of the neighbors is able 381 00:17:48,235 --> 00:17:50,270 to explain the comings and goings of 382 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:52,572 common visitors to the house. 383 00:17:52,672 --> 00:17:55,242 And investigators learn from neighbors 384 00:17:55,342 --> 00:17:57,144 somebody was at Ron Schwartz's house 385 00:17:57,244 --> 00:18:00,113 the day before the murder-- this is something 386 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:02,949 that happened within the last 24 hours. 387 00:18:03,049 --> 00:18:04,784 Who was there the day before? 388 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:07,987 (gunshot) 389 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:18,030 MURPHY: When investigators were talking to the neighbors, 390 00:18:18,131 --> 00:18:19,399 one of the things they learned was that 391 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,401 Dr. Schwartz had a handyman 392 00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:22,735 that worked around the house, 393 00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:25,605 an individual by the name of David Lopez. 394 00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:27,039 HURTADO: And David Lopez 395 00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:30,543 had been at Ronald Schwartz's residence the day before 396 00:18:30,643 --> 00:18:31,944 the body was found. 397 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:35,215 Now, there's somebody you want to talk to. 398 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:38,985 So, investigators were able to locate David Lopez. 399 00:18:48,395 --> 00:18:50,497 MURPHY: David Lopez had met Dr. Schwartz 400 00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:51,864 through a mutual friend. 401 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:53,966 And Dr. Schwartz was looking 402 00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:55,402 for somebody to be a handyman, 403 00:18:55,502 --> 00:18:56,936 just to take care of things around the house. 404 00:18:57,036 --> 00:18:59,172 Mr. Lopez had immigrated from Guatemala 405 00:18:59,272 --> 00:19:00,607 and he was looking for employment. 406 00:19:00,707 --> 00:19:02,442 So, this kind of worked out for both of them. 407 00:19:02,542 --> 00:19:05,678 Mr. Lopez did everything around the house, 408 00:19:05,778 --> 00:19:07,046 whether it was cutting the grass, 409 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:08,615 washing the cars, 410 00:19:08,715 --> 00:19:09,949 fixing the plumbing, 411 00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:11,684 whatever was needed, that was his responsibility. 412 00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:14,187 They developed somewhat of a friendship 413 00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:16,523 in addition to a professional working relationship. 414 00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:31,504 During the interview, 415 00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:34,274 David does say that he was present 416 00:19:34,374 --> 00:19:35,875 on July 18th. 417 00:19:35,975 --> 00:19:37,444 It was a Saturday. 418 00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:39,546 He would go and wash the vehicles. 419 00:19:39,646 --> 00:19:40,847 That was a standard procedure. 420 00:19:58,164 --> 00:20:01,934 David has a brother by the name of Saul Lopez. 421 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:04,070 David introduced Saul to Ron, 422 00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:06,706 and Ron ended up picking Saul to come and work for him. 423 00:20:17,384 --> 00:20:18,985 MURPHY: Mr. Lopez's mother 424 00:20:19,085 --> 00:20:20,186 was suffering from an illness, 425 00:20:20,287 --> 00:20:21,988 and Dr. Schwartz gave him 426 00:20:22,088 --> 00:20:23,155 a couple thousand dollars, 427 00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:24,957 just gave him the money to help his mom. 428 00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,126 So, that shows that there's a-a mutual respect there, 429 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,128 at least between Ron and David. 430 00:20:38,538 --> 00:20:43,075 Apparently, Ronald found out that Saul was stealing from him. 431 00:20:43,175 --> 00:20:44,744 That set Ronald off, 432 00:20:44,844 --> 00:20:48,281 and fired him instantly. 433 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:50,983 You have a person that could be disgruntled. 434 00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:55,422 Because Ronald could come across very demanding, 435 00:20:55,522 --> 00:20:58,358 a little bit on the aggressive side, 436 00:20:58,458 --> 00:21:00,527 that could also be a motive for murder. 437 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:06,733 MURPHY: Throughout his interview, 438 00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:08,701 Mr. Lopez appeared to be very cooperative. 439 00:21:12,972 --> 00:21:15,575 HURTADO: Saul is on the radar. 440 00:21:15,675 --> 00:21:17,577 Time is ticking, and investigators 441 00:21:17,677 --> 00:21:21,381 need to really hone into Saul Lopez 442 00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:24,150 and see what type of information he can provide them with. 443 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:26,719 But they can't locate him. 444 00:21:26,819 --> 00:21:29,356 He's really nowhere to be found. 445 00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:31,791 DRAKE: David Lopez revealed to investigators 446 00:21:31,891 --> 00:21:33,192 that he hadn't heard 447 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:35,161 from Saul for quite some time. 448 00:21:35,261 --> 00:21:37,029 Saul had been in a car accident, 449 00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:39,899 and the insurance had charged David's bank account. 450 00:21:39,999 --> 00:21:42,001 David had been trying to get ahold of him 451 00:21:42,101 --> 00:21:44,471 because Saul owed David money. 452 00:21:44,571 --> 00:21:47,106 So there was a-a rift between the two brothers there. 453 00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:13,332 * * 454 00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:14,767 MURPHY: Saul Lopez. 455 00:22:14,867 --> 00:22:16,536 This is someone they've been looking for. 456 00:22:16,636 --> 00:22:18,971 Can't find him. So where do we go from here? 457 00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:22,942 DRAKE: Detectives went to look for him down in Miami. 458 00:22:23,042 --> 00:22:26,513 That's where we believed Saul was at that time. 459 00:22:26,613 --> 00:22:30,650 Investigators spoke with people that he knew, 460 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:32,785 and eventually, agents did locate him. 461 00:22:32,885 --> 00:22:34,987 Our detectives were already there, 462 00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:37,089 and they pretty rapidly went to the home 463 00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:40,527 and did what we call a "knock and talk." 464 00:22:40,627 --> 00:22:43,596 They ask him for an interview, he was very cooperative. 465 00:23:05,284 --> 00:23:08,688 He did admit that he worked for Ron, but he was fired, 466 00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:10,523 and it was over what he described 467 00:23:10,623 --> 00:23:12,825 as a misunderstanding about a ring. 468 00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:18,798 DETECTIVE: Okay. 469 00:23:45,692 --> 00:23:48,828 DRAKE: There was no DNA evidence found at the crime scene, 470 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:52,499 but we still have to collect and document 471 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,335 anything else that might be valuable to our case. 472 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:59,672 Part of the vetting process of a potential suspect 473 00:23:59,772 --> 00:24:01,508 is to obtain 474 00:24:01,608 --> 00:24:02,942 a DNA standard from them. 475 00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:04,944 Saul refused to cooperate. 476 00:24:05,044 --> 00:24:06,613 He didn't want to give us his DNA. 477 00:24:06,713 --> 00:24:08,915 MURPHY: That's a red flag going up. 478 00:24:09,015 --> 00:24:11,317 It certainly doesn't say that he's the murderer, 479 00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:13,252 but it-it makes you start wondering, 480 00:24:13,352 --> 00:24:15,121 "Why does he not want to participate now? 481 00:24:15,221 --> 00:24:17,089 This could clear him." 482 00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:18,725 HURTADO: So, investigators 483 00:24:18,825 --> 00:24:20,259 provide him with 484 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,894 something to drink. 485 00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:28,067 The sample was recovered from a cup that Saul drank from. 486 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:29,902 MURPHY: Now you have touch DNA, 487 00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:31,904 and you may have mitochondrial DNA 488 00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:34,073 because of the saliva from him drinking. 489 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:36,275 It's a great way to get somebody's DNA. 490 00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:39,045 Was it legal? Absolutely. 491 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:41,514 Was it a little sneaky? Absolutely. 492 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:44,917 DRAKE: Now we certainly had well-founded suspicion 493 00:24:45,017 --> 00:24:48,721 that Saul was involved in the murder of Ron Schwartz. 494 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:53,392 Detectives certainly wanted to search Saul's home, and Saul, 495 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:56,162 being very cooperative at the time-- 496 00:24:56,262 --> 00:24:59,932 short of giving his DNA sample-- said, "Absolutely." 497 00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:02,769 HURTADO: Investigators provided Saul 498 00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:06,405 with a consent to search his residence. 499 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:09,008 He agreed, he signed the consent form, 500 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:11,510 and the investigators went inside of the residence. 501 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:17,149 MURPHY: Saul lived in a duplex with four other people there in Miami. 502 00:25:17,249 --> 00:25:20,219 DRAKE: Detectives entered his room, specifically, 503 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:22,154 and found a large amount of money 504 00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:23,522 in a box up in the closet. 505 00:25:23,623 --> 00:25:25,057 When detectives flipped the mattress 506 00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:27,126 in Saul's room, they discovered 507 00:25:27,226 --> 00:25:31,230 a class ring from the medical school at Emory University. 508 00:25:31,330 --> 00:25:35,501 The ring said "Emory," and... 509 00:25:35,602 --> 00:25:38,304 it had the initials "R.O.S." 510 00:25:38,404 --> 00:25:39,706 Interestingly enough, 511 00:25:39,806 --> 00:25:41,173 Ronald Schwartz 512 00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:44,310 had gone to Emory University. 513 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:48,981 Saul had related to us already that there was a disagreement, 514 00:25:49,081 --> 00:25:50,516 and that's why he was fired, over a ring. 515 00:25:50,617 --> 00:25:53,319 He certainly didn't admit to having the ring. 516 00:26:02,294 --> 00:26:05,564 Based on what we believe now to be stolen property, 517 00:26:05,665 --> 00:26:07,133 it certainly elevated Saul 518 00:26:07,233 --> 00:26:10,136 to a very high interest level for us. 519 00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:19,378 DRAKE: At that point, detectives stopped the search 520 00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:22,514 to ensure that we don't lose anything 521 00:26:22,615 --> 00:26:24,550 that is of value to our case. 522 00:26:24,651 --> 00:26:27,887 Detectives withdrew from Saul's home 523 00:26:27,987 --> 00:26:29,689 with the intent to get a search warrant. 524 00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:31,457 After obtaining a search warrant 525 00:26:31,557 --> 00:26:32,692 from the local police department, 526 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:34,526 which was the city of Miami, 527 00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:36,362 detectives returned to the home. 528 00:26:36,462 --> 00:26:38,230 During that search, 529 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:42,034 investigators recovered a .22-caliber Beretta pistol, 530 00:26:42,134 --> 00:26:45,437 a .22-caliber High Standard revolver, 531 00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:49,408 a .40-caliber Glock 23 pistol. 532 00:26:49,508 --> 00:26:51,678 We're looking for a .40-caliber firearm. 533 00:26:51,778 --> 00:26:53,746 There's a .40-caliber firearm at the residence. 534 00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:57,283 So, certainly now we have significant probable cause 535 00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:59,185 to seize that weapon. 536 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:00,619 They also found 537 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,690 two-dollar bills in Saul's residence. 538 00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:07,126 In 2015, that wasn't common. 539 00:27:07,226 --> 00:27:09,228 They were in circulation, certainly, 540 00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:11,530 but to find large stacks-- 541 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:13,966 and we know that Ron liked 542 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:16,002 two-dollar bills for some reason-- 543 00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:17,436 is that coincidence? 544 00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:19,305 I don't believe in coincidence. 545 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:21,307 It was very reasonable to believe that the money 546 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:25,144 that was at Saul's home belonged to the victim. 547 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:28,014 That money was seized with the intent 548 00:27:28,114 --> 00:27:30,783 to determine the source of that money. 549 00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:33,119 All the firearms were submitted to the laboratory 550 00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:36,122 at Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office for further testing. 551 00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:40,659 A .40-caliber shell casing from a test fire 552 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,295 would be compared with the shell casing found at the scene. 553 00:27:43,395 --> 00:27:46,398 Also, projectiles fired from the weapon 554 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,001 would also be compared to the projectiles 555 00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:51,003 recovered from Dr. Schwartz's body. 556 00:27:51,103 --> 00:27:53,072 Firearms testing takes some time, 557 00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:55,141 but it was determined 558 00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:58,610 through records check that the .22-caliber 559 00:27:58,711 --> 00:28:00,813 High Standard revolver recovered 560 00:28:00,913 --> 00:28:03,182 from Saul's home actually belonged 561 00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:05,051 to Ron Schwartz. 562 00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:10,322 * * 563 00:28:11,891 --> 00:28:13,192 MURPHY: Now, investigators, 564 00:28:13,292 --> 00:28:15,594 they've got a solid case for grand theft, 565 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:19,498 because the revolver that was found in-in Saul's residence, 566 00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:21,067 the .22 revolver, came back 567 00:28:21,167 --> 00:28:23,069 registered to Ron Schwartz. 568 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:25,204 And we also know that Saul 569 00:28:25,304 --> 00:28:26,906 stole Ron's ring. 570 00:28:27,006 --> 00:28:28,674 And the value of that was significant, 571 00:28:28,775 --> 00:28:30,409 enough to create a felony charge against Saul, 572 00:28:30,509 --> 00:28:32,211 and that's what the investigators do. 573 00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:34,814 They charged him with grand theft. 574 00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:36,215 What that does is that puts Saul 575 00:28:36,315 --> 00:28:38,684 in custody and gives them a little bit more time 576 00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:40,219 to solidify their case against Saul. 577 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:47,226 HURTADO: They decide to interview him for a second time, 578 00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:50,863 and this time around, things were a little different. 579 00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,139 HURTADO: Investigators informed Saul Lopez 580 00:29:00,239 --> 00:29:03,009 that they now have three weapons that were found 581 00:29:03,109 --> 00:29:05,011 inside of your residence, in your possession. 582 00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:08,214 Saul says that they belong to his roommate, 583 00:29:08,314 --> 00:29:11,951 a gentleman by the name of Marcos Gutierrez. 584 00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:28,300 HURTADO: The same .22 revolver 585 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,471 detectives now know belonged to Ronald Schwartz. 586 00:29:32,571 --> 00:29:37,243 Investigators now have Saul Lopez pretty much cornered. 587 00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:45,317 DETECTIVE: Okay. HURTADO: Saul Lopez explained 588 00:29:45,417 --> 00:29:49,055 to investigators how everything happened. 589 00:29:50,823 --> 00:29:52,691 DRAKE: That evening, they drove 590 00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:55,761 to Ronald Schwartz's home, and when they arrived, 591 00:29:55,862 --> 00:29:58,931 Ron Schwartz was not happy that he had brought Marcos with him. 592 00:29:59,031 --> 00:30:01,934 An argument ensued between them. 593 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,203 Saul Lopez told investigators that he followed Ron 594 00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:06,605 into the house, 595 00:30:06,705 --> 00:30:07,974 and when they entered the bedroom, 596 00:30:08,074 --> 00:30:10,542 Saul claimed that Ron pulled his own weapon 597 00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,744 and fired at Saul. 598 00:30:12,845 --> 00:30:14,113 He was struck in the arm. 599 00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:15,114 At that point, 600 00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:16,282 he struggled for the gun 601 00:30:16,382 --> 00:30:17,416 to defend himself. 602 00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:18,951 (gunshot) 603 00:30:19,051 --> 00:30:23,155 The weapon went off in the victim's armpit. 604 00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:27,159 Mm-hmm. 605 00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:59,458 (gunshot) 606 00:30:59,558 --> 00:31:03,029 So, Lopez then said that Marcos grabbed several items. 607 00:31:03,129 --> 00:31:05,697 MURPHY: To make it look like a burglary. 608 00:31:05,797 --> 00:31:08,167 Potentially an armed robbery that went wrong. 609 00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:09,435 And that would explain 610 00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:11,037 how the groceries are on the floor, 611 00:31:11,137 --> 00:31:13,139 the papers are knocked off on the floor, off the desk. 612 00:31:13,239 --> 00:31:14,806 The drawers are left open, 613 00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:16,943 and things are disheveled throughout the house. 614 00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:18,177 Just trying to create something 615 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:19,545 that would throw investigators off. 616 00:31:19,645 --> 00:31:21,981 Investigators have Saul Lopez 617 00:31:22,081 --> 00:31:23,983 admitting to shooting Ronald Schwartz, 618 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:25,717 admitting that he was there, 619 00:31:25,817 --> 00:31:27,753 that there was an altercation, 620 00:31:27,853 --> 00:31:32,491 but Marcos was the one who shot the bullet 621 00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:35,094 that went through Ronald Schwartz's cheekbone. 622 00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:36,162 (gunshot) 623 00:31:36,262 --> 00:31:37,296 The fatal one. 624 00:31:38,764 --> 00:31:42,234 DRAKE: One of them is responsible for Ron's murder. 625 00:31:42,334 --> 00:31:45,437 MURPHY: After Saul's confession, investigators charged him 626 00:31:45,537 --> 00:31:48,507 with first-degree murder with a firearm 627 00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:49,875 and armed robbery. 628 00:31:49,976 --> 00:31:53,079 DRAKE: We have Saul Lopez in custody. 629 00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:56,983 However, we're looking for Marcos Gutierrez. 630 00:31:57,083 --> 00:31:59,585 They're not able to locate him here in Florida. 631 00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:01,587 So, the investigators did their homework. 632 00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:03,689 They talked to witnesses. 633 00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:06,725 HURTADO: An individual tells investigators that 634 00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:08,760 Marcos had approached her 635 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:12,564 and told her a very important piece of information. 636 00:32:12,664 --> 00:32:15,334 MURPHY: Marcos made the statement, 637 00:32:15,434 --> 00:32:18,237 "I did something really stupid in Jupiter, 638 00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:20,973 and I'm going to Cuba." 639 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,882 * * 640 00:32:30,983 --> 00:32:32,818 MURPHY: The investigators want to talk to Marcos, but where is he? 641 00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:34,820 Marcos told his friends he's going to Cuba. 642 00:32:35,821 --> 00:32:37,723 So, investigators, they subpoenaed airlines 643 00:32:37,823 --> 00:32:39,391 that were known to fly to Cuba, 644 00:32:39,491 --> 00:32:40,993 and what they came back with 645 00:32:41,093 --> 00:32:45,164 was Marcos left Miami July 23rd. 646 00:32:45,264 --> 00:32:47,133 Records indicate that he had not returned 647 00:32:47,233 --> 00:32:49,168 back to the United States. 648 00:32:49,268 --> 00:32:50,436 He was untouchable there. 649 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:54,806 My name is Brian Fernandes, 650 00:32:54,906 --> 00:32:56,408 and I'm a criminal prosecutor 651 00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,310 with the state of Florida. 652 00:32:58,410 --> 00:33:01,380 We were seeking indictments for both of the parties 653 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,615 that we believed to be the killers in the case. 654 00:33:05,251 --> 00:33:09,888 But Marcos Gutierrez, he was a citizen of Cuba, 655 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:13,292 which, for me, prosecuting in South Florida, 656 00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:15,361 knowing the extradition laws with Cuba, 657 00:33:15,461 --> 00:33:18,297 there was pretty much no hope that we'd get him back. 658 00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:21,967 All countries have different laws regarding extradition. 659 00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:24,036 Some are much easier to deal with. 660 00:33:24,136 --> 00:33:26,638 Cuba, of course, is one of those countries that 661 00:33:26,738 --> 00:33:29,075 have no extradition with the United States of America. 662 00:33:33,179 --> 00:33:35,247 When you realize that your suspect 663 00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:37,049 that you know absolutely committed the crime 664 00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:38,517 has fled the country, 665 00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:42,354 and may never seek any type of punishment for it, 666 00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:43,722 it doesn't feel good. 667 00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:49,961 The investigators start laying out the evidence against Saul 668 00:33:50,062 --> 00:33:52,598 and his statement that doesn't make sense. 669 00:33:52,698 --> 00:33:53,965 (indistinct chatter) 670 00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:56,302 HURTADO: Saul Lopez states that 671 00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,637 the shot that went through the armpit 672 00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:01,039 was from Marcos utilizing 673 00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:04,876 Ronald Schwartz's .22-caliber revolver. 674 00:34:04,976 --> 00:34:08,447 But the medical examiner report indicated otherwise. 675 00:34:08,547 --> 00:34:12,016 Both shots that Ronald Schwartz sustained 676 00:34:12,118 --> 00:34:14,886 were from a .40-caliber handgun. 677 00:34:16,822 --> 00:34:19,591 DRAKE: Clearly, a .22 and a .40-caliber bullet 678 00:34:19,690 --> 00:34:21,059 are completely different. 679 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,295 Firearms testing was completed, 680 00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:25,797 namely that .40-caliber Glock 681 00:34:25,897 --> 00:34:28,266 that was recovered from Saul's home. 682 00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:30,636 And it was confirmed that the projectiles 683 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:32,571 removed from Dr. Schwartz's body, 684 00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:35,974 those were fired from that same weapon. 685 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,878 We have now the murder weapon. 686 00:34:45,451 --> 00:34:47,085 Investigators had already recovered 687 00:34:47,186 --> 00:34:49,521 a DNA sample from Saul Lopez. 688 00:34:49,621 --> 00:34:51,857 Those weapons from the home, 689 00:34:51,956 --> 00:34:55,460 those are also swabbed for DNA evidence. 690 00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:58,264 And a profile was recovered from the Glock 40. 691 00:34:59,898 --> 00:35:01,300 HURTADO: Now, it's just a matter of sending 692 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,901 all of the items to the crime lab. 693 00:35:03,001 --> 00:35:05,971 In the crime lab, they will process the DNA. 694 00:35:06,071 --> 00:35:07,906 They will do a comparison. 695 00:35:08,006 --> 00:35:10,776 So, whose DNA was found on the known murder weapon? 696 00:35:10,876 --> 00:35:13,111 It wasn't Marcos'. It was Saul's. 697 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:17,716 The most likely version of what happened that day is... 698 00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:22,154 Marcos and Saul decided they were going to go to Ron's house. 699 00:35:22,254 --> 00:35:26,592 Saul wanted his job back. Ron is upset. He fired Saul. 700 00:35:26,692 --> 00:35:30,095 Ron took off into the bedroom, where he grabbed a handgun. 701 00:35:30,196 --> 00:35:33,232 Saul pulls his .40-caliber, the Glock, 702 00:35:33,332 --> 00:35:36,168 and shoots Ron in the side. 703 00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:37,736 (gunshot) 704 00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:39,638 Ron falls to the floor. 705 00:35:39,738 --> 00:35:40,972 Saul then shoots him in the face and kills him. 706 00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:43,575 Then Marcos and Saul ransacked the house. 707 00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:45,211 They stole property from Ron, 708 00:35:45,311 --> 00:35:48,214 like the Emory University class ring, 709 00:35:48,314 --> 00:35:49,981 and fled the scene. 710 00:35:52,818 --> 00:35:57,823 Investigators have Ronald Schwartz firing Saul Lopez, 711 00:35:57,923 --> 00:36:01,560 Saul Lopez having personal items 712 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:05,331 of Ronald Schwartz's inside of his residence. 713 00:36:08,434 --> 00:36:11,169 Then you have the two-dollar bills 714 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:14,873 that were found in Saul Lopez's residence 715 00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:18,076 that were consistent with the two-dollar bills 716 00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:21,847 that were found everywhere in Ronald Schwartz's residence. 717 00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:24,049 In addition to that, 718 00:36:24,149 --> 00:36:28,220 a Glock .40-caliber handgun that was consistent 719 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,389 with the cartridge casing 720 00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,157 that was found on scene 721 00:36:32,258 --> 00:36:33,725 and the projectiles that were recovered 722 00:36:33,825 --> 00:36:36,127 from Ron Schwartz's body. 723 00:36:36,228 --> 00:36:39,765 According to DNA evidence, Saul Lopez fired the shot 724 00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:44,169 that went through the right side of his cheekbone. 725 00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:46,972 FERNANDES: We had uncovered enough evidence, 726 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:48,907 along with good forensics, 727 00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:52,143 to make sure that we had Saul Lopez 728 00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:54,112 lined up as a primary suspect. 729 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,817 Everything points to Saul Lopez as being the shooter, 730 00:36:58,917 --> 00:37:02,120 the one who killed Ronald Schwartz. 731 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,123 However, investigators know that Marcos 732 00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:08,460 was also present at the time the murder occurred. 733 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,198 So, he is as guilty as Saul Lopez is. 734 00:37:13,299 --> 00:37:16,134 Saul Lopez, he ends up pleading guilty to second-degree murder, 735 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,270 and he's sentenced to 21 years in prison 736 00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:19,405 here in the United States. 737 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:23,409 Unfortunately, the other suspect in the case, Marcos Gutierrez, 738 00:37:23,509 --> 00:37:26,445 may not be brought to justice 739 00:37:26,545 --> 00:37:28,246 for a violent crime like murder. 740 00:37:31,182 --> 00:37:33,719 * * 741 00:37:33,819 --> 00:37:35,120 MURPHY: Well, lo and behold, 742 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:37,088 the next thing you know, the prosecutors 743 00:37:37,188 --> 00:37:38,857 and the investigators in Palm Beach County 744 00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:40,659 get an invitation from the Cuban government 745 00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:41,927 to fly down to Cuba 746 00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:44,095 to discuss the case with their prosecutors. 747 00:37:45,531 --> 00:37:48,700 FERNANDES: It's a big deal to potentially think about having 748 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,136 a prosecution like this in a foreign country, period, 749 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:53,605 much less Cuba. 750 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:55,541 It's not that there was mistrust. 751 00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:59,611 It's just there was an absence of any knowledge of trust. 752 00:37:59,711 --> 00:38:01,313 And so we worked through our United States embassy, 753 00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:05,183 and we also worked through an FBI special agent 754 00:38:05,283 --> 00:38:06,885 who was assigned to us in Cuba. 755 00:38:06,985 --> 00:38:10,922 And they communicated with the Cuban officials 756 00:38:11,022 --> 00:38:12,758 and arranged a meeting between us. 757 00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:18,129 I went to Cuba with the reasonable expectation 758 00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:20,298 that really no progress would be made, 759 00:38:20,399 --> 00:38:24,102 but the Cuban government cared about this case. 760 00:38:24,202 --> 00:38:27,773 Marcos Gutierrez had been taken into custody by Cuban officials. 761 00:38:27,873 --> 00:38:29,975 He had been questioned and held in custody 762 00:38:30,075 --> 00:38:31,777 pending their decision to continue 763 00:38:31,877 --> 00:38:34,680 to prosecute him for the homicide. 764 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,348 Once we had a conversation 765 00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:38,450 and an initial presentation to them 766 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:40,586 of our findings in our case, 767 00:38:40,686 --> 00:38:43,021 they then presented to us what their findings were 768 00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:45,491 pursuant to their investigation in Cuba, 769 00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:47,926 and that included a full confession 770 00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:50,028 that was made by Marcos Gutierrez. 771 00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:52,330 They did a thorough job of investigating it, 772 00:38:52,431 --> 00:38:53,699 even without our assistance. 773 00:38:53,799 --> 00:38:55,834 And everything they had told us during the meeting 774 00:38:55,934 --> 00:38:58,970 appeared to be corroborated by the physical evidence. 775 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,442 Both Mr. Lopez and Mr. Gutierrez's statements, 776 00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:06,277 they, of course, had distinct differences 777 00:39:06,378 --> 00:39:09,948 as to who was the one that pulled the trigger 778 00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:11,583 that ultimately resulted 779 00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:13,685 in the death of Dr. Schwartz. 780 00:39:13,785 --> 00:39:15,353 But they both placed 781 00:39:15,454 --> 00:39:17,656 each of the individuals present in the home 782 00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:19,391 for the crime that was committed. 783 00:39:19,491 --> 00:39:20,859 And at the end of the day, 784 00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:23,128 they're both principals to first-degree murder. 785 00:39:26,865 --> 00:39:28,734 * * 786 00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:32,337 MURPHY: They come back home. 787 00:39:32,438 --> 00:39:36,107 Next surprise is the detective 788 00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:38,376 gets a request to come and testify 789 00:39:38,477 --> 00:39:41,246 in the trial against Marcos in Cuba. 790 00:39:41,346 --> 00:39:43,449 Boy, you talk about reaching for the stars. 791 00:39:43,549 --> 00:39:45,984 * * 792 00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:48,053 FERNANDES: It was exciting to potentially have 793 00:39:48,153 --> 00:39:49,588 the first case ever 794 00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:52,223 that was criminally prosecuted by the Cuban government 795 00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:54,760 of one of their citizens committing crimes in Florida 796 00:39:54,860 --> 00:39:56,562 and the United States. 797 00:40:02,834 --> 00:40:05,604 MURPHY: Several months after the trial in Cuba, 798 00:40:05,704 --> 00:40:07,272 Department of Justice in Washington 799 00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:09,074 received word from the Cuban government 800 00:40:09,174 --> 00:40:11,843 that Marcos was found guilty of murder in the United States 801 00:40:11,943 --> 00:40:14,746 and was sentenced to 20 years in prison, in Cuba. 802 00:40:16,715 --> 00:40:19,284 It's the first time in history this has ever been done, 803 00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:21,419 and I don't know that it's ever been done since. 804 00:40:25,824 --> 00:40:27,693 * * 805 00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:34,299 DRAKE: In this case, surprisingly, with the cooperation 806 00:40:34,399 --> 00:40:36,434 from the Cuban government, 807 00:40:36,535 --> 00:40:40,305 we were able to deliver justice for Ron Schwartz. 808 00:40:41,907 --> 00:40:45,844 * I'm gonna look up in the sky * 809 00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:50,916 * Count the stars to pass the time * 810 00:40:52,618 --> 00:40:56,488 He's like a brother. He was just like a brother. 811 00:40:57,756 --> 00:40:59,791 That's... (sobbing) 812 00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:05,597 No, I shed tears about it privately... 813 00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:10,001 ...you know, probably once every couple of weeks or so. 814 00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:14,873 I miss all of his calls. 815 00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:16,174 I miss his voice. 816 00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:20,812 TENENBAUM: For me, I miss the friendship 817 00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:22,380 and the conversation 818 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,716 and the jokes and the laughter. 819 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:25,951 For the world, 820 00:41:26,051 --> 00:41:28,520 I hate that they've missed his brilliance. 821 00:41:29,721 --> 00:41:32,223 So, a big void... 822 00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:35,126 in my heart, but in this world. 823 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,461 They took it from us. 824 00:41:36,562 --> 00:41:40,365 * We're breaking free * 825 00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:46,504 * We're breaking free * 826 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:52,043 * We're breaking free * 827 00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:57,983 * We're breaking free * 828 00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:03,889 * We're breaking free. * 829 00:42:12,197 --> 00:42:15,100 Captioning sponsored by CBS 830 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,236 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org