1 00:00:04,308 --> 00:00:06,615 [eerie music] 2 00:00:06,745 --> 00:00:10,401 - She told folks, I feel someone's watching me. 3 00:00:10,488 --> 00:00:14,535 - She saw a shadow or a face, but she thought 4 00:00:14,536 --> 00:00:17,626 somebody was peering in her window. 5 00:00:17,713 --> 00:00:21,107 - He seemed to know that she was home alone on Friday night. 6 00:00:21,108 --> 00:00:23,805 - Lindy was clearly trying to escape 7 00:00:23,806 --> 00:00:26,243 the clutches of this person. 8 00:00:26,417 --> 00:00:28,723 - She actually fought for her life. 9 00:00:28,724 --> 00:00:30,900 ♪ 10 00:00:30,987 --> 00:00:33,729 - He took the love of my life away from me. 11 00:00:34,991 --> 00:00:36,470 - Some of these serial killers, it's almost 12 00:00:36,471 --> 00:00:38,386 like a badge of honor how many people they've killed. 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,128 - This is the first time, perhaps, 14 00:00:41,215 --> 00:00:43,652 he let his fantasy play out. 15 00:00:43,739 --> 00:00:45,349 - And then the letter came. 16 00:00:45,436 --> 00:00:47,873 You know, that was the real clincher. 17 00:00:48,004 --> 00:00:51,268 - This person was still out there and full of hatred 18 00:00:51,355 --> 00:00:52,617 for some reason. 19 00:00:52,791 --> 00:00:54,357 - They exhausted every lead that they had. 20 00:00:54,358 --> 00:00:57,100 And nothing ever panned out. 21 00:00:57,187 --> 00:00:59,755 - A cold case dating back nearly a half century 22 00:00:59,842 --> 00:01:02,584 appears to have been cracked this week. 23 00:01:02,671 --> 00:01:05,935 - How could you have lived with yourself? 24 00:01:06,022 --> 00:01:08,851 [dramatic music] 25 00:01:08,938 --> 00:01:15,945 ♪ ♪ 26 00:01:19,035 --> 00:01:21,646 [eerie music] 27 00:01:21,777 --> 00:01:23,300 ♪ ♪ 28 00:01:23,431 --> 00:01:26,433 - On Friday, December 5, 1975, 29 00:01:26,434 --> 00:01:28,697 Celeste and Merle Little 30 00:01:28,784 --> 00:01:30,525 were coming home from their son's basketball game 31 00:01:30,612 --> 00:01:34,484 at the local high school in Manor Township, Pennsylvania, 32 00:01:34,485 --> 00:01:36,487 and they decided to stop by and visit their niece, Lindy. 33 00:01:36,618 --> 00:01:37,880 ♪ ♪ 34 00:01:38,054 --> 00:01:39,621 Lindy was a newlywed. 35 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:42,623 She was only 19 years old, so she wasn't 36 00:01:42,624 --> 00:01:45,366 used to being alone at night. 37 00:01:45,453 --> 00:01:47,454 And they knew that she was going to be home alone, 38 00:01:47,455 --> 00:01:51,894 because her husband, Phil, worked on Friday nights. 39 00:01:51,981 --> 00:01:56,202 Around 8:42, they pulled up outside the apartment building. 40 00:01:56,203 --> 00:01:58,553 Celeste walked up to Lindy's apartment. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,338 And the door was open. 42 00:02:01,512 --> 00:02:02,948 And from the doorway, she could see 43 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:06,735 her niece lying on the floor 44 00:02:06,865 --> 00:02:08,780 with a very visible butcher knife handle 45 00:02:08,911 --> 00:02:10,347 sticking out of her neck. 46 00:02:10,478 --> 00:02:13,480 ♪ ♪ 47 00:02:13,481 --> 00:02:15,178 - After 32 years on the job, 48 00:02:15,309 --> 00:02:16,919 I've worked my share of homicides. 49 00:02:17,006 --> 00:02:20,575 You get used to walking into some pretty awful situations. 50 00:02:20,749 --> 00:02:24,752 But the murder of Lindy Sue Biechler back in 1975 51 00:02:24,753 --> 00:02:27,538 shocked even the most seasoned detectives. 52 00:02:27,669 --> 00:02:29,192 ♪ ♪ 53 00:02:29,279 --> 00:02:30,933 [radio chatter] 54 00:02:31,063 --> 00:02:34,545 - I've never, ever seen another scene like that. 55 00:02:34,676 --> 00:02:36,373 ♪ ♪ 56 00:02:36,547 --> 00:02:39,854 It was one that I'll remember forever. 57 00:02:39,855 --> 00:02:41,726 The door was standing open. 58 00:02:41,813 --> 00:02:44,772 There was a large amount of blood on the door, 59 00:02:44,773 --> 00:02:46,601 on the floor, 60 00:02:46,731 --> 00:02:49,995 along the wall, just all over the apartment. 61 00:02:50,082 --> 00:02:51,909 And you could see the blood trail. 62 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:53,390 And then that blood trail led back 63 00:02:53,564 --> 00:02:54,913 to where she was found on the floor. 64 00:02:55,044 --> 00:02:57,351 ♪ ♪ 65 00:02:57,525 --> 00:03:00,092 - Lindy Sue was covered with blood, laying on her back. 66 00:03:00,223 --> 00:03:02,573 She was brutally, brutally assaulted. 67 00:03:02,704 --> 00:03:05,272 ♪ ♪ 68 00:03:05,359 --> 00:03:07,926 - In the kitchen were some bags of groceries. 69 00:03:08,013 --> 00:03:09,753 Some of them were empty. 70 00:03:09,754 --> 00:03:11,495 But some of them were still full. 71 00:03:11,626 --> 00:03:13,583 That told them that something had happened to interrupt 72 00:03:13,584 --> 00:03:14,803 Lindy when she was in the process 73 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:17,153 of putting away the groceries. 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,806 - How did that person get in? 75 00:03:18,807 --> 00:03:20,808 But as investigators looked at it, 76 00:03:20,809 --> 00:03:22,767 they realized that there was no indication 77 00:03:22,854 --> 00:03:25,988 that there was forced entry into that apartment. 78 00:03:26,075 --> 00:03:27,554 - It seemed likely that she had 79 00:03:27,555 --> 00:03:29,730 opened the door to someone. 80 00:03:29,731 --> 00:03:32,342 ♪ 81 00:03:32,516 --> 00:03:33,909 - There was blood on the outside of the door 82 00:03:33,996 --> 00:03:35,476 and on the inside. 83 00:03:35,563 --> 00:03:37,564 So that means the door was open at the time 84 00:03:37,565 --> 00:03:39,523 the assault took place. 85 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:41,917 - Basically, it looked like she would have been attacked 86 00:03:42,091 --> 00:03:43,179 as soon as she opened the door. 87 00:03:43,266 --> 00:03:45,268 That's what the evidence showed. 88 00:03:45,399 --> 00:03:48,096 She actually fought for her life. 89 00:03:48,097 --> 00:03:50,273 ♪ 90 00:03:50,404 --> 00:03:53,188 - Lindy was clearly trying to escape 91 00:03:53,189 --> 00:03:56,323 the clutches of this person. 92 00:03:56,497 --> 00:03:58,412 There may have been some kind of a short chase 93 00:03:58,499 --> 00:04:00,630 into the living room, a lamp knocked over, 94 00:04:00,631 --> 00:04:03,416 and then it somehow wound its way closer to the kitchen, 95 00:04:03,417 --> 00:04:04,809 where she was viciously murdered. 96 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:11,903 ♪ ♪ 97 00:04:14,471 --> 00:04:16,517 - For Lindy's family, her sudden murder 98 00:04:16,647 --> 00:04:19,084 is understandably a shocking turn of events, 99 00:04:19,171 --> 00:04:20,956 especially considering how safe 100 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:24,264 Lancaster County normally is. 101 00:04:24,394 --> 00:04:27,049 - This was a huge crime that shocked the community. 102 00:04:27,136 --> 00:04:31,140 No matter where a crime like this happens, it is shocking. 103 00:04:31,227 --> 00:04:34,230 But Manor Township is a small rural suburb 104 00:04:34,404 --> 00:04:36,928 of Lancaster County. 105 00:04:37,059 --> 00:04:40,497 - Lancaster County is about 60 miles west of Philadelphia. 106 00:04:40,628 --> 00:04:44,066 Back then, it had around 50,000 people. 107 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,155 But a lot of people think of Lancaster County, 108 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:47,678 they think of the Amish community. 109 00:04:47,809 --> 00:04:49,550 ♪ ♪ 110 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,725 - Growing up around here, we would always hear 111 00:04:51,726 --> 00:04:54,119 the clip, clip, clop of the Amish buggies. 112 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:57,906 They would bring their goods into town for the market. 113 00:04:57,993 --> 00:04:59,863 So it's a small community. 114 00:04:59,864 --> 00:05:02,910 People really love living there. 115 00:05:02,911 --> 00:05:04,869 - You just wouldn't worry, you know? 116 00:05:05,043 --> 00:05:07,045 You wouldn't worry living in Lancaster. 117 00:05:07,176 --> 00:05:08,873 ♪ ♪ 118 00:05:09,047 --> 00:05:11,136 But that night, I just wanted to go 119 00:05:11,267 --> 00:05:13,356 to my brother right away. 120 00:05:13,443 --> 00:05:14,879 I'm Beth Clark. 121 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:18,621 Lindy was my brother's wife, 122 00:05:18,622 --> 00:05:21,886 my sister-in-law. 123 00:05:22,017 --> 00:05:26,021 On December 5, 1975, I went home, 124 00:05:26,195 --> 00:05:27,631 and my grandfather was there. 125 00:05:27,805 --> 00:05:29,719 He just said to me, 126 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,765 there's been a terrible accident, 127 00:05:31,766 --> 00:05:35,595 and Lindy is dead. 128 00:05:35,596 --> 00:05:40,340 It is just one of those horrible, dark, 129 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:42,080 crashing-in-on-you moments. 130 00:05:42,211 --> 00:05:43,995 ♪ ♪ 131 00:05:44,082 --> 00:05:47,259 Lindy was sunshine in a room. 132 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:50,959 She had a beautiful smile, very easygoing. 133 00:05:51,046 --> 00:05:53,003 We were a close family. 134 00:05:53,004 --> 00:05:55,180 And she just fit right in. 135 00:05:55,311 --> 00:05:58,313 - You felt lucky to know her 136 00:05:58,314 --> 00:06:02,884 and even luckier to be a part of her life. 137 00:06:03,014 --> 00:06:06,496 All of our family loved her. 138 00:06:06,627 --> 00:06:11,283 When I found out she was killed, I felt shocked, 139 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:13,589 and I felt very saddened. 140 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:16,332 I had asked my dad about Phil, 141 00:06:16,463 --> 00:06:20,075 and my father had said that he was at work. 142 00:06:20,162 --> 00:06:24,471 They had to tell him what had happened. 143 00:06:24,558 --> 00:06:26,734 - OK, cameras. Speed. 144 00:06:30,738 --> 00:06:34,655 - I got a call from Celeste saying I should go home, 145 00:06:34,742 --> 00:06:38,310 that an accident happened. 146 00:06:38,441 --> 00:06:41,270 So I speeded home as fast as I could. 147 00:06:41,357 --> 00:06:44,882 I saw flashing lights, police cars all around. 148 00:06:45,056 --> 00:06:50,321 I parked out in the street and ran over to my apartment. 149 00:06:50,322 --> 00:06:52,673 A policeman took ahold of me and told me 150 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,718 not to go in there. 151 00:06:54,805 --> 00:06:58,592 He said my wife was dead, 152 00:06:58,722 --> 00:07:02,160 and I just kind of collapsed. 153 00:07:02,291 --> 00:07:04,511 ♪ ♪ 154 00:07:04,598 --> 00:07:09,602 I sort of was in shock, just crying my eyes out. 155 00:07:09,603 --> 00:07:11,648 It was the worst feeling 156 00:07:11,735 --> 00:07:14,564 I've ever felt in my entire life. 157 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,959 I sat down, 158 00:07:18,046 --> 00:07:22,179 and the coroner there gave me a sedative. 159 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:24,573 The next thing I remember was sitting 160 00:07:24,574 --> 00:07:26,837 in the Manor Township Police Department. 161 00:07:26,968 --> 00:07:29,057 ♪ ♪ 162 00:07:29,187 --> 00:07:31,494 When the police interviewed me that first night, 163 00:07:31,625 --> 00:07:35,542 they said that 90% of these cases, 164 00:07:35,629 --> 00:07:37,892 the husband is a suspect. 165 00:07:38,022 --> 00:07:41,155 But I didn't really think I had anything to hide, 166 00:07:41,156 --> 00:07:44,854 so I told him everything. 167 00:07:44,855 --> 00:07:48,555 I told him that she worked at Landis Flowers that day. 168 00:07:48,642 --> 00:07:52,949 And I told her that I'd just seen her at, like, 5:00. 169 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:55,386 She had just picked up my paycheck from the place 170 00:07:55,387 --> 00:07:57,868 that I worked at, which was Hertz Rent-a-Car. 171 00:07:57,999 --> 00:08:00,088 ♪ ♪ 172 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:02,177 I hugged her and kissed her 173 00:08:02,264 --> 00:08:05,267 and opened the door for her in her car 174 00:08:05,354 --> 00:08:07,355 and saw her drive away. 175 00:08:07,356 --> 00:08:11,621 ♪ 176 00:08:11,708 --> 00:08:13,841 - The police took his clothing. 177 00:08:13,928 --> 00:08:15,669 They got him locked in in a statement. 178 00:08:15,756 --> 00:08:17,278 It's always great to get somebody locked in 179 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:19,194 in a statement, because that statement 180 00:08:19,281 --> 00:08:20,500 can never change. 181 00:08:20,674 --> 00:08:22,284 So they did do their due diligence 182 00:08:22,414 --> 00:08:25,069 looking at the person who would initially be 183 00:08:25,156 --> 00:08:26,200 the most obvious person. 184 00:08:26,201 --> 00:08:28,246 ♪ 185 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:30,379 - Detectives finished the interview with Phil 186 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:32,641 and turned their attention to the crime scene. 187 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:35,732 But remember, this is 1975. 188 00:08:35,819 --> 00:08:39,214 There's no DNA technology and very little forensics 189 00:08:39,388 --> 00:08:41,476 compared to what we have today. 190 00:08:41,477 --> 00:08:43,522 [radio chatter] 191 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,741 - There was a knife missing from the knife set 192 00:08:45,742 --> 00:08:47,918 in the kitchen that matched the knife that was in her neck. 193 00:08:48,049 --> 00:08:50,051 ♪ ♪ 194 00:08:50,138 --> 00:08:51,705 - There was a tea towel wrapped around 195 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:54,969 the knife handle, and detectives found 196 00:08:55,099 --> 00:08:57,885 matching tea towels in the kitchen. 197 00:08:57,972 --> 00:09:00,278 - Lindy's shirt was a little bit pushed up, 198 00:09:00,452 --> 00:09:03,978 and her pants were fully unbuttoned and unzipped. 199 00:09:04,108 --> 00:09:06,633 However, she wore pantyhose underneath, 200 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,156 I assume to stay warm. 201 00:09:08,243 --> 00:09:12,900 And those pantyhose and underwear were intact. 202 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:14,728 - Her pants were unbuttoned. 203 00:09:14,815 --> 00:09:16,817 But there was no indication there was 204 00:09:16,991 --> 00:09:21,865 any sort of direct sexual assault which took place. 205 00:09:21,952 --> 00:09:23,650 - The crime scene also suggested 206 00:09:23,737 --> 00:09:28,132 to investigators that this was not a planned robbery. 207 00:09:28,306 --> 00:09:29,481 It was designed for some other reason. 208 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:35,052 ♪ ♪ 209 00:09:35,139 --> 00:09:36,663 - The morning after the murder, 210 00:09:36,793 --> 00:09:38,794 detectives continue their investigation 211 00:09:38,795 --> 00:09:41,318 by talking to Lindy's friends. 212 00:09:41,319 --> 00:09:44,234 - Lindy worked at a flower and gift shop 213 00:09:44,235 --> 00:09:48,021 owned by 34-year-old local businessman Bob Aument. 214 00:09:48,022 --> 00:09:51,068 - He was one of the last people to see her alive 215 00:09:51,155 --> 00:09:54,332 after she left work that afternoon. 216 00:09:54,506 --> 00:09:57,684 So obviously, he had to be interviewed. 217 00:09:57,814 --> 00:10:00,556 - But when detectives went to talk to Bob, 218 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:01,643 he had disappeared. 219 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:03,993 ♪ 220 00:10:03,994 --> 00:10:06,822 The detectives knew that Lindy and Bob were very, very close. 221 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:09,434 Perhaps Bob had feelings for her 222 00:10:09,565 --> 00:10:11,262 that were not reciprocated. 223 00:10:11,393 --> 00:10:14,395 Maybe Bob had gone over there to her apartment that night. 224 00:10:14,396 --> 00:10:15,919 Everyone was certain that Lindy would have 225 00:10:16,093 --> 00:10:17,181 opened the door to him. 226 00:10:17,312 --> 00:10:20,184 ♪ ♪ 227 00:10:20,271 --> 00:10:22,926 - Police need to speak with Lindy's boss right away, 228 00:10:23,013 --> 00:10:24,449 but they are met with a very sudden 229 00:10:24,580 --> 00:10:26,147 and surprising roadblock. 230 00:10:26,234 --> 00:10:27,801 [phone ringing] 231 00:10:27,888 --> 00:10:30,368 - Detectives received a tip from a worker 232 00:10:30,455 --> 00:10:34,111 at a local psychiatric hospital that Bob Aument had 233 00:10:34,198 --> 00:10:37,027 checked himself into this psychiatric hospital 234 00:10:37,158 --> 00:10:40,204 very shortly after Lindy's murder. 235 00:10:40,291 --> 00:10:42,641 - The investigators' hairs on the back of their necks 236 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:46,341 go up, because there's something unusual about this. 237 00:10:46,428 --> 00:10:48,734 Is he having a psychological breakdown 238 00:10:48,735 --> 00:10:51,519 because she was murdered by someone else 239 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,695 or because he was the murderer? 240 00:10:52,869 --> 00:10:55,698 ♪ 241 00:10:55,785 --> 00:10:57,569 - Coming up... 242 00:10:57,700 --> 00:10:59,354 - I told them that she felt like 243 00:10:59,484 --> 00:11:01,661 there was somebody stalking her. 244 00:11:01,791 --> 00:11:04,053 - This woman, Mary Schinzing, was stabbed to death 245 00:11:04,054 --> 00:11:06,796 brutally in an apartment, same time of night. 246 00:11:06,883 --> 00:11:09,973 - The community of Manor Township 247 00:11:10,147 --> 00:11:11,540 was very frightened. 248 00:11:11,714 --> 00:11:13,629 You have somebody who you don't know, 249 00:11:13,803 --> 00:11:14,761 who is still out there. 250 00:11:14,891 --> 00:11:17,677 ♪ ♪ 251 00:11:19,635 --> 00:11:22,116 [eerie music] 252 00:11:22,203 --> 00:11:24,858 - December 1975, 253 00:11:24,945 --> 00:11:27,034 less than a day after the violent murder 254 00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,601 of 19-year-old Lindy Sue Biechler, 255 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,125 police are looking to interview 256 00:11:31,212 --> 00:11:33,997 one of the last people to see her alive. 257 00:11:34,128 --> 00:11:37,870 But he's checked himself into a psychiatric facility. 258 00:11:37,871 --> 00:11:40,830 - Bob Aument was not just her boss at the flower shop. 259 00:11:40,917 --> 00:11:42,135 He was her friend. 260 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:44,442 And he had spent that whole day with her. 261 00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:46,575 What transpired during that day 262 00:11:46,662 --> 00:11:48,185 that may have resulted 263 00:11:48,272 --> 00:11:51,318 in a violent action only two hours or so 264 00:11:51,319 --> 00:11:52,886 after she left work? 265 00:11:53,016 --> 00:11:55,062 So they had to talk to him. 266 00:11:55,192 --> 00:11:57,325 - At the psychiatric hospital, even though the police 267 00:11:57,455 --> 00:12:00,675 were investigating a murder, the hospital staff would not 268 00:12:00,676 --> 00:12:04,287 allow them to speak with Bob. 269 00:12:04,288 --> 00:12:06,116 - Unable to interview their suspect, 270 00:12:06,247 --> 00:12:08,640 detectives return to headquarters. 271 00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:10,773 There, they examine the autopsy 272 00:12:10,860 --> 00:12:13,341 and forensics results. 273 00:12:13,471 --> 00:12:17,780 - The autopsy showed there were 19 stab wounds, 274 00:12:17,867 --> 00:12:22,176 multiple in the torso, chest, and back. 275 00:12:22,306 --> 00:12:27,136 And some of those wounds appeared to be a narrower blade 276 00:12:27,137 --> 00:12:28,922 than that butcher knife that was left 277 00:12:29,052 --> 00:12:31,054 at the scene in her neck. 278 00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:34,666 - Some of the initial stabs were from a much smaller, 279 00:12:34,754 --> 00:12:37,931 4-inch-long folding knife. 280 00:12:38,018 --> 00:12:40,455 Unfortunately, the killer had the foresight 281 00:12:40,542 --> 00:12:43,458 to take that knife with him. 282 00:12:43,545 --> 00:12:46,330 - Then the detectives reviewed the blood samples 283 00:12:46,417 --> 00:12:48,680 from the crime scene to determine 284 00:12:48,811 --> 00:12:50,857 whether it was only Lindy's blood 285 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:53,511 or blood from another person, 286 00:12:53,598 --> 00:12:57,385 and it appeared that it was all from the victim. 287 00:12:57,472 --> 00:12:58,778 - You're stabbed 19 times, 288 00:12:58,908 --> 00:13:00,780 there's going to be a lot of blood. 289 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:02,651 This was surprising that the killer 290 00:13:02,738 --> 00:13:04,522 was able to keep from having his blood 291 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:07,177 being all over the place. 292 00:13:07,264 --> 00:13:09,657 - There were no fingerprints found at the scene, 293 00:13:09,658 --> 00:13:11,486 certainly none belonging to the offender. 294 00:13:11,616 --> 00:13:14,532 ♪ ♪ 295 00:13:14,663 --> 00:13:16,446 - No further evidence is found. 296 00:13:16,447 --> 00:13:18,493 No motive is clear. 297 00:13:18,623 --> 00:13:21,713 24 hours after the murder, detectives canvass 298 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:24,107 the small community of Manor Township 299 00:13:24,238 --> 00:13:27,719 and piece together a timeline of Lindy's last day. 300 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:29,547 - Lindy Sue got up December 5th. 301 00:13:29,678 --> 00:13:32,202 She went to work at the flower shop. 302 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:33,987 She left 303 00:13:34,074 --> 00:13:35,902 4:00, 4:30 in the afternoon. 304 00:13:35,989 --> 00:13:37,338 She went 305 00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:39,296 to her husband's place of employment, 306 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:41,733 which was Hertz, picked up his paycheck, 307 00:13:41,864 --> 00:13:43,474 went to the bank. 308 00:13:43,605 --> 00:13:45,302 People saw her at the bank. 309 00:13:45,389 --> 00:13:46,999 And she went to a grocery store, 310 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,653 a local grocery store. 311 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:50,307 Detectives spoke with people at the grocery store 312 00:13:50,438 --> 00:13:53,222 that remembered her. 313 00:13:53,223 --> 00:13:56,051 And then she drove home, and it looked like 314 00:13:56,052 --> 00:13:57,532 just after she carried the groceries 315 00:13:57,662 --> 00:14:01,362 into her apartment, she was killed. 316 00:14:01,492 --> 00:14:03,754 ♪ ♪ 317 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:06,019 - Police did canvass the neighbors, 318 00:14:06,106 --> 00:14:08,717 and no one had heard anything in terms of screaming. 319 00:14:08,804 --> 00:14:10,937 No one saw anything. 320 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:13,940 However, a neighbor across the street told them 321 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:15,463 that she had looked out her front window, 322 00:14:15,593 --> 00:14:18,814 and Lindy's car was not there at 6:45 p.m. 323 00:14:18,901 --> 00:14:20,207 But when she looked out her window again, 324 00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:21,599 and Lindy's car was there, 325 00:14:21,686 --> 00:14:24,167 backed into its spot at 7:05 p.m. 326 00:14:24,298 --> 00:14:26,387 - We know the aunt and uncle came to her apartment 327 00:14:26,474 --> 00:14:27,822 after 8:00. 328 00:14:27,823 --> 00:14:29,259 So that gave us kind of a narrow window 329 00:14:29,346 --> 00:14:30,217 when it happened. 330 00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:33,002 ♪ ♪ 331 00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,222 - In cases with little physical evidence, 332 00:14:35,352 --> 00:14:38,442 a time frame for the crime becomes your main focus. 333 00:14:38,573 --> 00:14:41,314 Detectives can now check the alibi of any suspects 334 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:42,925 in Lindy's murder, 335 00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:45,535 starting with her husband, Phil. 336 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:49,149 - Phil Biechler was working for a Hertz dealership 337 00:14:49,236 --> 00:14:50,759 in the city of Lancaster. 338 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,152 He was at work. He never left work. 339 00:14:53,153 --> 00:14:54,632 - He had witnesses putting him there 340 00:14:54,763 --> 00:14:56,417 and customers dealing with him. 341 00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:58,680 So the investigators knew pretty much 342 00:14:58,810 --> 00:15:02,205 they had to kind of put him aside and look elsewhere. 343 00:15:02,292 --> 00:15:06,992 - Bob was the next logical suspect, Lindy's boss. 344 00:15:06,993 --> 00:15:08,908 And police finally were able to talk to Bob 345 00:15:08,995 --> 00:15:10,822 when he left the psychiatric hospital 346 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,781 several days later. 347 00:15:12,868 --> 00:15:15,436 - Eventually, Bob Aument was interviewed by investigators. 348 00:15:15,566 --> 00:15:18,352 They were asking questions of him and about him. 349 00:15:20,571 --> 00:15:22,965 - Bob Aument went into a hospital 350 00:15:23,096 --> 00:15:24,967 for psychiatric care. 351 00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:28,014 Well, Bob Aument was a very sensitive man. 352 00:15:28,101 --> 00:15:31,756 And so losing somebody like her, this way, 353 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:35,717 affected him a lot more than any other people would be. 354 00:15:35,847 --> 00:15:39,763 So I knew that Bob would have never done this. 355 00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:42,158 - The reality is that police didn't have any evidence 356 00:15:42,245 --> 00:15:43,811 against Bob Aument, 357 00:15:43,812 --> 00:15:45,205 that he had been at the apartment 358 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,728 or that he had done anything to Lindy. 359 00:15:47,729 --> 00:15:49,818 In fact, police admitted that they didn't 360 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:52,560 have any evidence against anyone. 361 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:58,348 - Well, the big question was, of course, who and why? 362 00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:01,916 Like, why would you-- she wasn't-- 363 00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:05,789 didn't have any enemies that I knew of. 364 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:08,357 - I thought she was the sweetest thing ever made. 365 00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:10,491 [chuckles] 366 00:16:10,578 --> 00:16:14,625 But she was very confident at the same time. 367 00:16:14,712 --> 00:16:17,846 Lindy's plan was to open up her own flower shop, 368 00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:20,675 and she wanted me to become an art teacher. 369 00:16:20,805 --> 00:16:25,332 I would say that Lindy probably 370 00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:28,074 brought out the best in me. 371 00:16:28,204 --> 00:16:31,294 - That's what was so puzzling about it. 372 00:16:31,381 --> 00:16:32,948 You know, who could hate her that much? 373 00:16:33,035 --> 00:16:38,562 She was such a great person, a nice person. 374 00:16:38,693 --> 00:16:41,000 ♪ ♪ 375 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:42,914 - Three days after Lindy's murder, 376 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:45,265 detectives talk to Phil again, 377 00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:48,920 digging into why Lindy was afraid to be home alone. 378 00:16:49,051 --> 00:16:50,879 - I told them she had mentioned 379 00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:54,361 that she felt like there was somebody stalking her. 380 00:16:54,448 --> 00:16:58,191 And she thought somebody was peering in her window. 381 00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:01,759 She became a little nervous. 382 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:05,633 - She had told folks, I feel someone's watching me. 383 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,504 But they exhausted every lead that they had, 384 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:11,204 and nothing ever panned out. 385 00:17:11,291 --> 00:17:14,120 Had to be extremely, extremely frustrating. 386 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:16,209 ♪ ♪ 387 00:17:16,296 --> 00:17:19,995 - Three months pass with no new leads. 388 00:17:20,082 --> 00:17:22,692 - In March of 1976, another brutal murder 389 00:17:22,693 --> 00:17:24,521 happened in Columbia. 390 00:17:24,608 --> 00:17:26,915 Columbia is not that far from where the apartment was 391 00:17:27,002 --> 00:17:29,048 in Manor Township. 392 00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:31,485 - This woman, Mary Schinzing, was stabbed to death 393 00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:34,401 brutally in an apartment, same time of night. 394 00:17:34,531 --> 00:17:38,057 This looked like a really promising lead. 395 00:17:38,187 --> 00:17:39,928 - It happened on March 5th. 396 00:17:40,015 --> 00:17:41,886 Lindy was killed on the 5th of December. 397 00:17:42,017 --> 00:17:43,539 It happened in the evening. 398 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:45,629 Both of those nights happened to be a Friday night. 399 00:17:45,716 --> 00:17:48,067 ♪ ♪ 400 00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:50,286 There could be a direct correlation here. 401 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:52,941 ♪ ♪ 402 00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,683 [sirens wailing] 403 00:17:56,684 --> 00:18:00,121 [eerie music] 404 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:01,515 - Three months after the murder 405 00:18:01,602 --> 00:18:03,256 of Lindy Sue Biechler, 406 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:07,390 a strikingly similar homicide occurs in a neighboring town. 407 00:18:07,521 --> 00:18:10,524 The victim is a young woman named Mary Schinzing. 408 00:18:10,611 --> 00:18:12,047 - Mary lived alone. 409 00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:13,396 It was a knife murder. 410 00:18:13,483 --> 00:18:15,746 It was brutal. It was violent. 411 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:18,662 So there was a lot of similarities. 412 00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:20,838 - There was an arrest made in that case. 413 00:18:21,012 --> 00:18:24,493 The guy's name was Arndt, Kenneth Arndt. 414 00:18:24,494 --> 00:18:29,064 He was a handyman who did work on her apartment building, 415 00:18:29,238 --> 00:18:31,197 and he was watching her. 416 00:18:31,284 --> 00:18:34,504 - He had worked for an appliance delivery company, 417 00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:37,158 and police were told that he had actually 418 00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:40,945 been on a truck that had been at Lindy's apartment building. 419 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:44,384 - He could have been familiar with that apartment complex, 420 00:18:44,471 --> 00:18:47,517 even familiar with Lindy Sue. 421 00:18:47,691 --> 00:18:49,128 - Kenneth Arndt vehemently denied 422 00:18:49,258 --> 00:18:50,868 killing Lindy Sue Biechler. 423 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:52,174 And when they checked 424 00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:54,220 all the delivery truck route staffing, 425 00:18:54,307 --> 00:18:56,700 they learned that there was no concrete link 426 00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:59,007 between Kenneth Arndt and any delivery 427 00:18:59,094 --> 00:19:01,618 made to the Spring Manor apartments. 428 00:19:01,705 --> 00:19:04,404 He was convicted for Mary's murder. 429 00:19:04,578 --> 00:19:08,016 But for Lindy's murder, he was crossed off the list. 430 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:10,627 - He looked like a strong suspect. 431 00:19:10,714 --> 00:19:12,107 But that's how investigations go. 432 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:13,804 You have to be willing to get up 433 00:19:13,935 --> 00:19:15,458 and kind of dust yourself off and continue on 434 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:16,894 with your investigation. 435 00:19:17,025 --> 00:19:23,031 ♪ ♪ 436 00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:26,948 - One unusual aspect of this case-- 437 00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:28,645 and there are several-- 438 00:19:28,819 --> 00:19:34,303 was the fact that just about a year after Lindy's murder, 439 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:37,306 the tombstone marking her grave 440 00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:39,439 was vandalized by someone. 441 00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:41,614 It was chipped away 442 00:19:41,615 --> 00:19:46,314 with some sort of a tool, screwdriver. 443 00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:50,101 - My aunt was taking flowers to the gravesite 444 00:19:50,276 --> 00:19:51,885 and saw this. 445 00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:54,932 So, again, the fear that this person 446 00:19:55,063 --> 00:19:57,935 was still out there and still so full 447 00:19:58,022 --> 00:20:01,330 of hatred for some reason. 448 00:20:01,417 --> 00:20:03,550 - I mean, why would you do that? 449 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,161 What was the purpose there? 450 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,379 I don't know. 451 00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,076 But I think the killer did it. 452 00:20:09,077 --> 00:20:11,166 ♪ 453 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:13,168 And then the letter came. 454 00:20:13,255 --> 00:20:15,910 You know, that was the real clincher. 455 00:20:16,998 --> 00:20:19,957 - Several days after someone defaced the tombstone, 456 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:22,743 Chief Sheeler of the Manor Township Police Department 457 00:20:22,917 --> 00:20:24,440 received a handwritten letter 458 00:20:24,571 --> 00:20:26,703 that claimed to be from the killer 459 00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:29,357 of Lindy Sue Biechler 460 00:20:29,358 --> 00:20:32,579 and talked about what he had done to the tombstone 461 00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:35,145 and talked about how he would strike again. 462 00:20:35,146 --> 00:20:36,800 It was a sort of a mocking tone. 463 00:20:36,931 --> 00:20:39,889 ♪ ♪ 464 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,936 - Was it the killer himself, 465 00:20:42,023 --> 00:20:45,155 or was it some mentally deranged person 466 00:20:45,156 --> 00:20:47,376 who just wanted to insert themselves 467 00:20:47,507 --> 00:20:49,857 into this investigation? 468 00:20:50,031 --> 00:20:52,338 The police didn't know. 469 00:20:52,468 --> 00:20:55,863 - Detectives send the letter to the FBI. 470 00:20:55,993 --> 00:20:58,953 - I am a criminal profiler/behavioralist. 471 00:20:59,083 --> 00:21:01,347 But I'm also a forensic linguist. 472 00:21:01,434 --> 00:21:05,568 If there's any case I'm probably most known for, 473 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:08,092 it's the Unabomb case. 474 00:21:08,179 --> 00:21:09,442 I remember looking at this letter 475 00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:11,400 with my fellow profilers. 476 00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:13,924 And after studying the language, 477 00:21:14,055 --> 00:21:18,624 I was convinced that this letter was most likely a hoax 478 00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:20,713 and not from the killer. 479 00:21:20,714 --> 00:21:25,761 But we created a profile of the killer. 480 00:21:25,762 --> 00:21:29,026 The early profile indicated that the offender was 481 00:21:29,113 --> 00:21:32,465 19 to 25 years of age, 482 00:21:32,552 --> 00:21:35,772 an explosive personality or temperament, 483 00:21:35,859 --> 00:21:38,209 and could have very well been a peeping Tom. 484 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,733 ♪ ♪ 485 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:44,128 This is the first time, perhaps, he let his fantasy 486 00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:46,957 play out, and he confronted Lindy, 487 00:21:47,131 --> 00:21:49,569 thinking maybe his fantasy would go in another direction. 488 00:21:49,743 --> 00:21:51,701 It quickly went another way, and he took her out. 489 00:21:51,832 --> 00:21:58,273 ♪ ♪ 490 00:21:58,360 --> 00:21:59,926 - Over the next several years, 491 00:21:59,927 --> 00:22:02,016 police remain on the lookout for anyone 492 00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:05,105 matching the profile of Lindy's killer. 493 00:22:05,106 --> 00:22:08,804 - Fast forward to 1982, police arrest a man in Florida 494 00:22:08,805 --> 00:22:10,416 named Gerald Stano. 495 00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:13,114 He's a serial killer who confesses to murdering 496 00:22:13,288 --> 00:22:15,334 more than 30 women. 497 00:22:15,464 --> 00:22:18,423 - Stano had stabbed many of his victims to death. 498 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:22,297 His targets were generally young white women. 499 00:22:22,428 --> 00:22:25,908 And when he was arrested and he started confessing, 500 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:29,042 he told police he had killed four to six women 501 00:22:29,043 --> 00:22:31,350 in the Pennsylvania area. 502 00:22:31,437 --> 00:22:33,090 - As they looked into his background, 503 00:22:33,177 --> 00:22:35,571 they realized he had a Pennsylvania driver's license. 504 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:38,313 His parents lived very close to Manor Township 505 00:22:38,487 --> 00:22:41,011 in Lancaster County. 506 00:22:41,142 --> 00:22:43,797 - Maybe Gerald Stano had been visiting his parents 507 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:47,756 and had perhaps seen her at John Herr's Market, 508 00:22:47,757 --> 00:22:51,108 and just like he killed scores of other women, killed Lindy. 509 00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:52,675 ♪ ♪ 510 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,725 - In October of 1982, 511 00:22:58,812 --> 00:23:01,075 detectives travel down to Florida to interview 512 00:23:01,162 --> 00:23:05,209 Gerald Stano, a man who shared a prison cell with Ted Bundy. 513 00:23:05,296 --> 00:23:08,038 One police technique for interviewing serial killers 514 00:23:08,125 --> 00:23:10,432 is to avoid appealing to their emotions. 515 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:12,216 They're too cold. 516 00:23:12,303 --> 00:23:14,044 Your best bet is to provoke them 517 00:23:14,131 --> 00:23:17,265 into bragging about their crimes. 518 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:20,790 - Stano generally liked to talk about his crimes. 519 00:23:20,877 --> 00:23:22,575 He liked the attention. 520 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:26,143 But when asked about Lindy, he denied having anything 521 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:27,928 to do with her murder. 522 00:23:28,015 --> 00:23:29,930 - Why he wouldn't confess to this one 523 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,889 if he, in fact, did it is unclear. 524 00:23:32,976 --> 00:23:37,285 But the investigators took it as far as they could with him. 525 00:23:37,372 --> 00:23:38,895 Subsequent to the Lancaster authorities 526 00:23:39,026 --> 00:23:40,288 interviewing Stano, 527 00:23:40,375 --> 00:23:42,682 it was determined Stano was in Florida 528 00:23:42,769 --> 00:23:46,555 at the exact time in December of '75 that Lindy was killed, 529 00:23:46,686 --> 00:23:48,862 so that pretty much gave him a rock-solid alibi 530 00:23:48,949 --> 00:23:51,038 for her murder. 531 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:54,562 [eerie music] 532 00:23:54,563 --> 00:23:56,870 - More than a decade passes. 533 00:23:56,957 --> 00:23:58,959 The 20-year investigation into the murder 534 00:23:59,046 --> 00:24:01,831 of Lindy Sue Biechler remains cold. 535 00:24:01,918 --> 00:24:04,617 - When the case went cold, I felt-- 536 00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:06,575 and I believe the family did, too-- 537 00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:08,838 are we ever going to find out who did this? 538 00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:10,753 ♪ ♪ 539 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,451 - I was hopeful. 540 00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:18,065 But I also walled myself off for a number of years. 541 00:24:18,152 --> 00:24:20,633 I wouldn't say that I had a drinking problem, 542 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,158 but I liked to drink a lot just to deaden the nerves. 543 00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:26,639 ♪ ♪ 544 00:24:26,726 --> 00:24:29,511 He took the love of my life away from me. 545 00:24:29,642 --> 00:24:32,079 ♪ ♪ 546 00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:35,168 But after some stormy years and bad years, 547 00:24:35,169 --> 00:24:38,999 I went back to school, dedicated to let 548 00:24:39,129 --> 00:24:41,392 Lindy's life not go in vain. 549 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,745 ♪ ♪ 550 00:24:45,832 --> 00:24:47,747 But I remember one day 551 00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:50,837 I was going down to the convenience store, 552 00:24:50,924 --> 00:24:52,926 and I went in there to buy a newspaper, 553 00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:55,189 because I had heard the newspaper had come out 554 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:56,582 with the anniversary of this. 555 00:24:56,669 --> 00:24:58,714 ♪ ♪ 556 00:24:58,845 --> 00:25:00,715 Standing in line with the newspaper, 557 00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:02,588 and there was a mother and daughter 558 00:25:02,675 --> 00:25:04,764 standing in front of me. 559 00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:09,333 And the mother said, after all these years, 560 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:12,074 I bet you it's the husband that did it. 561 00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:15,122 And I'm standing right behind them. 562 00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:18,211 I just dropped the newspaper and walked out. 563 00:25:18,212 --> 00:25:21,084 ♪ 564 00:25:21,171 --> 00:25:23,609 I went home and cried. 565 00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:27,395 You know, it just brings up all that stuff all over again. 566 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:31,007 ♪ ♪ 567 00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:33,270 - As someone who's passionate about solving cold cases, 568 00:25:33,401 --> 00:25:35,403 I can tell you this. 569 00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:37,970 When a murder goes unsolved for this long, 570 00:25:37,971 --> 00:25:40,190 it's not just frustrating for the families. 571 00:25:40,277 --> 00:25:42,018 It's frustrating for you as a cop. 572 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:43,977 You feel a responsibility to the victim 573 00:25:44,064 --> 00:25:46,021 to find some kind of clue 574 00:25:46,022 --> 00:25:48,111 that will lead you to the killer. 575 00:25:48,198 --> 00:25:53,116 ♪ ♪ 576 00:25:53,247 --> 00:25:56,466 - In 1997, a few county detectives 577 00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,207 went to Manor Township and said, hey, 578 00:25:58,208 --> 00:25:59,470 it's been years and years. 579 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:00,862 This case is very cold. 580 00:26:00,863 --> 00:26:02,082 Would you like some help? 581 00:26:02,212 --> 00:26:05,302 Because DNA in the mid to late '90s 582 00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:07,957 was coming more of age. 583 00:26:08,044 --> 00:26:09,568 - So the investigators came in, 584 00:26:09,698 --> 00:26:12,788 and they sent the tea towel, clothing, 585 00:26:12,919 --> 00:26:14,921 and these other things to Cellmark Labs. 586 00:26:15,051 --> 00:26:20,100 That was the lab that was able to develop DNA profiles. 587 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:23,930 They were actually able to find a semen stain on the underwear. 588 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,236 ♪ ♪ 589 00:26:26,323 --> 00:26:27,890 - This had never been detected before. 590 00:26:27,977 --> 00:26:30,023 And it gave a motive to the case 591 00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:33,199 that previously had seemed motiveless. 592 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Now, police realized she had indeed been 593 00:26:36,246 --> 00:26:39,771 sexually assaulted by the killer. 594 00:26:39,772 --> 00:26:41,904 It was suspected that he had possibly 595 00:26:42,035 --> 00:26:44,037 masturbated over her dead body 596 00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:47,040 while he surveyed his handiwork. 597 00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:50,913 But what was really important was because we were firmly 598 00:26:51,044 --> 00:26:54,961 in the DNA era now, the lab was able to obtain a profile 599 00:26:55,048 --> 00:26:57,311 and entered it into the national DNA 600 00:26:57,398 --> 00:27:00,706 database of offenders. 601 00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,969 - You get excited about that because you know 602 00:27:03,056 --> 00:27:05,232 that there's hope, because if it's a match, 603 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,539 then you got your person. 604 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,933 - The results are disappointing. 605 00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,588 The DNA sample doesn't match any of the profiles 606 00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:15,808 in the database. 607 00:27:15,938 --> 00:27:20,116 However, the test does provide one piece of good news. 608 00:27:20,203 --> 00:27:22,423 - It was now proof positive that I was 609 00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:24,207 never a suspect in this case. 610 00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:26,514 ♪ ♪ 611 00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:28,385 But I don't think that you can ever 612 00:27:28,472 --> 00:27:32,258 clear that line of suspicion until there's an actual suspect 613 00:27:32,259 --> 00:27:33,521 that's arrested. 614 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,175 ♪ ♪ 615 00:27:35,262 --> 00:27:37,350 - I just wished that they would catch 616 00:27:37,351 --> 00:27:39,352 whoever killed Lindy. 617 00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:42,268 But as each week and then each month 618 00:27:42,269 --> 00:27:46,534 and then each year evolves, time marches on. 619 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:53,846 ♪ ♪ 620 00:27:55,021 --> 00:27:58,764 - The case had been cold for over 40 years 621 00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:01,723 when our office got involved. 622 00:28:01,854 --> 00:28:03,769 But when we did our review, we felt 623 00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:06,032 with the new technology in DNA, 624 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,208 maybe we should retest some things. 625 00:28:08,338 --> 00:28:11,907 ♪ ♪ 626 00:28:12,038 --> 00:28:14,605 - In September 2019, detectives send 627 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,259 a sample of the killer's DNA 628 00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:18,479 to a pioneering genetics company 629 00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:22,004 known as Parabon NanoLabs. 630 00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:26,269 - I'm CeCe Moore, and I'm the chief genetic genealogist 631 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,793 at Parabon NanoLabs. 632 00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:33,450 Genetic genealogy is using documentary records 633 00:28:33,537 --> 00:28:36,105 like census records, vital records, 634 00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:39,543 in conjunction with DNA analysis. 635 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:42,677 When Parabon received the results from the profile 636 00:28:42,808 --> 00:28:45,636 on Lindy Sue Biechler's case, they were able 637 00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:49,292 to predict that her killer likely had 638 00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:52,425 brown to black hair, fair skin, 639 00:28:52,426 --> 00:28:55,515 and green to hazel eyes. 640 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:58,866 We were also able to predict his ancestry 641 00:28:58,867 --> 00:29:00,694 by making a family tree. 642 00:29:00,695 --> 00:29:03,479 Using two public databases, 643 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,918 I looked at the distant cousins 644 00:29:06,919 --> 00:29:08,834 of Lindy Sue's killer 645 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:11,793 that we had identified in the databases. 646 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,578 I could see that they were all converging 647 00:29:14,665 --> 00:29:18,321 in a region in South Italy. 648 00:29:18,408 --> 00:29:20,715 And there was one town that kept jumping out at me 649 00:29:20,802 --> 00:29:23,282 called Gasperina. 650 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:26,503 So the first thing I did was to look 651 00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:29,942 at the records of immigration 652 00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:33,727 directly from Gasperina to Lancaster, 653 00:29:33,728 --> 00:29:36,251 and I started making a list. 654 00:29:36,252 --> 00:29:41,823 That took me down to a little under 2,300 people. 655 00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:44,347 When you consider that some of those people 656 00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:46,828 are going to be too young or too old to have committed 657 00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:49,744 the crime, about half of those people are female, 658 00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,878 and I'm looking for a male, suddenly I had 659 00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:56,969 a relatively small list, a couple dozen or so. 660 00:29:57,056 --> 00:30:00,059 Then when I was going through newspapers, 661 00:30:00,146 --> 00:30:03,365 I found something extremely interesting. 662 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:07,370 There was a newspaper article that announced 663 00:30:07,501 --> 00:30:10,243 the engagement and upcoming marriage 664 00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:12,636 of one of the men on my list. 665 00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:17,163 The address for the groom was the exact same address 666 00:30:17,293 --> 00:30:19,208 as the scene of the crime. 667 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:21,167 That just shocked me. 668 00:30:21,297 --> 00:30:23,386 - The man that CeCe Moore identifies 669 00:30:23,473 --> 00:30:27,737 lived one floor above Lindy in the same apartment building. 670 00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:29,784 - It was almost too coincidental 671 00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,351 to be a coincidence. 672 00:30:34,745 --> 00:30:37,574 [eerie music] 673 00:30:37,705 --> 00:30:39,402 ♪ ♪ 674 00:30:39,489 --> 00:30:43,145 - September 2019, 44 years after the murder 675 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,712 of Lindy Sue Biechler, 676 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,846 a genetics lab has honed in on a suspect, 677 00:30:47,976 --> 00:30:50,456 a man who lived in the very same apartment complex 678 00:30:50,457 --> 00:30:52,589 as Lindy Sue. 679 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,811 ♪ ♪ 680 00:30:56,898 --> 00:30:59,727 - So right away, I got very excited 681 00:30:59,814 --> 00:31:02,729 thinking that this could potentially be 682 00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:04,471 the man that law enforcement had been 683 00:31:04,601 --> 00:31:07,213 looking for for decades. 684 00:31:07,343 --> 00:31:11,347 And his name was David Sinopoli. 685 00:31:11,434 --> 00:31:15,263 I went to social media, and I found pictures of him. 686 00:31:15,264 --> 00:31:18,180 And I just couldn't believe it when I saw 687 00:31:18,354 --> 00:31:20,790 that he fit perfectly 688 00:31:20,791 --> 00:31:23,969 with the snapshot phenotype predictions. 689 00:31:24,099 --> 00:31:28,276 My instincts told me I was looking in the face 690 00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:30,235 of Lindy Sue Biechler's killer. 691 00:31:30,236 --> 00:31:34,153 ♪ 692 00:31:34,283 --> 00:31:36,895 - When CeCe Moore called, I got excited. 693 00:31:37,025 --> 00:31:38,287 But I can't get too excited, 694 00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,680 because we had to confirm things. 695 00:31:40,681 --> 00:31:43,075 So we collect as much factual information 696 00:31:43,205 --> 00:31:45,468 as we can about him, his family, 697 00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:50,298 whereabouts, employment, everything we can find. 698 00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:52,040 - We found out he was a long-term 699 00:31:52,171 --> 00:31:54,521 Lancaster County resident. 700 00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:57,524 In fact, Lindy Sue and David Sinopoli went 701 00:31:57,611 --> 00:32:00,048 to the same middle school. 702 00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:03,356 - And also, when Philip and Lindy Sue moved 703 00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:07,186 into that apartment complex, Sinopoli and his wife 704 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,971 also lived there, although he did not live there 705 00:32:10,102 --> 00:32:12,365 at the time the homicide occurred. 706 00:32:12,495 --> 00:32:15,107 - He was married during the time of the homicide, 707 00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:17,022 but he divorced from that wife. 708 00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:18,544 He had three children. 709 00:32:18,545 --> 00:32:19,981 He was still married to his second wife 710 00:32:20,155 --> 00:32:22,201 living in East Hempfield Township. 711 00:32:22,288 --> 00:32:24,203 He worked at a couple printing companies, 712 00:32:24,290 --> 00:32:27,336 one for quite a long time. 713 00:32:27,467 --> 00:32:29,773 - While Sinopoli, by all indications, 714 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:33,776 mostly led a lawful life, in 2003, 715 00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:35,997 he was caught in, of all places, his wife's 716 00:32:36,171 --> 00:32:38,912 tanning salon, peering at a naked woman 717 00:32:38,913 --> 00:32:40,480 on the tanning bed, 718 00:32:40,567 --> 00:32:43,526 and he was actually arrested for that. 719 00:32:43,657 --> 00:32:45,659 - In 2004, he ended up pleading guilty 720 00:32:45,746 --> 00:32:48,227 to invasion of privacy and disorderly conduct. 721 00:32:48,314 --> 00:32:50,664 And he got one-year probation. 722 00:32:50,751 --> 00:32:53,188 Other than that, Sinopoli's record was clean. 723 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,973 ♪ ♪ 724 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:58,324 Police, of course, questioned his first wife 725 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:02,110 extensively about her 13 years married to David Sinopoli. 726 00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:03,894 She said that he was never violent with her. 727 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,939 They simply grew apart. 728 00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:09,291 Their divorce was amicable. 729 00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:11,772 - David Sinopoli fit the age. 730 00:33:11,859 --> 00:33:13,512 He fit the peeping Tom. 731 00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:15,080 He fit the phenotype. 732 00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:17,169 He kind of fit everything. 733 00:33:17,343 --> 00:33:19,170 ♪ 734 00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:20,172 Of course, we can't arrest him, 735 00:33:20,346 --> 00:33:22,652 so we start surveilling him. 736 00:33:22,739 --> 00:33:24,915 - We were watching his movements 737 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,570 hoping that we could collect a surreptitious sample 738 00:33:27,744 --> 00:33:29,703 of his DNA. 739 00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:32,097 - If someone is a suspect in a case, 740 00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:33,749 it is standard operating procedure 741 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:36,144 to obtain a DNA sample without their knowledge. 742 00:33:36,318 --> 00:33:37,885 It's not done every time. 743 00:33:37,972 --> 00:33:39,930 But they do have to get a confirmatory sample 744 00:33:40,105 --> 00:33:41,628 before arrest. 745 00:33:41,758 --> 00:33:44,238 No arrest is ever made on genealogy alone. 746 00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:46,763 - Unfortunately, this happened during the height of COVID. 747 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:48,983 Everything was locked down, so you couldn't go anywhere. 748 00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:50,680 You couldn't do anything. 749 00:33:50,767 --> 00:33:52,334 And there was no promising leads 750 00:33:52,421 --> 00:33:55,423 through trash collections either. 751 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:58,166 So those efforts were fruitless. 752 00:33:59,863 --> 00:34:02,300 - Another year passes. 753 00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:03,693 Detectives are still trying to get 754 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:05,999 a sample of their suspect's DNA 755 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,828 when a call comes in from the FBI. 756 00:34:08,829 --> 00:34:12,137 - Tip came in that Sinopoli and his wife 757 00:34:12,224 --> 00:34:14,182 were flying out of the Philadelphia International 758 00:34:14,356 --> 00:34:16,750 Airport on a vacation. 759 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,534 We decided to go down there 760 00:34:18,621 --> 00:34:20,971 and hopefully retrieve something 761 00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:22,929 if they were to leave something behind 762 00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:25,889 before taking off in the plane. 763 00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:29,240 - We get there, and we start walking through the airport. 764 00:34:29,241 --> 00:34:30,938 I went to get a coffee, 765 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:33,680 and David Sinopoli and his wife 766 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:35,985 was sitting at a table in a coffee shop, 767 00:34:35,986 --> 00:34:40,165 the one I happened to step into. 768 00:34:40,252 --> 00:34:41,905 He had no coffee cup. 769 00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:43,864 His wife had one. 770 00:34:43,951 --> 00:34:47,910 But there was a bag sitting between David and his wife. 771 00:34:47,911 --> 00:34:49,522 A minute later, they finish. 772 00:34:49,652 --> 00:34:54,918 David picks up his wife's cup, puts her cup in the bag, 773 00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:59,922 folds it neat, like your mom would fold your lunch bag, 774 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:03,579 walks it over, and puts it in the trash receptacle 775 00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:06,930 not even 5 feet from me. 776 00:35:07,017 --> 00:35:09,019 - That's eligible to be collected 777 00:35:09,194 --> 00:35:10,760 because it's been considered abandoned. 778 00:35:10,891 --> 00:35:12,849 It's thrown in the trash. 779 00:35:12,936 --> 00:35:15,200 - He leaves. I grab it. 780 00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:17,071 There's two cups in it, the one on the top, 781 00:35:17,158 --> 00:35:19,160 which I knew was his wife's cup, 782 00:35:19,334 --> 00:35:22,032 and the one underneath had to be his cup. 783 00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,339 ♪ ♪ 784 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:26,863 I will say that I was flying high. 785 00:35:27,037 --> 00:35:28,081 I was excited. 786 00:35:28,082 --> 00:35:30,824 I was, like, really excited. 787 00:35:30,911 --> 00:35:34,349 - If we're able to say scientifically 788 00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:37,874 that that DNA matches that DNA profile, 789 00:35:37,961 --> 00:35:39,746 then we got our man. 790 00:35:39,833 --> 00:35:42,662 ♪ ♪ 791 00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:47,623 [eerie music] 792 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:49,538 - More than 46 years after the murder 793 00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:51,018 of Lindy Sue Biechler, 794 00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,107 the crime lab compares the DNA sample 795 00:35:53,194 --> 00:35:55,849 of the suspect, David Sinopoli, 796 00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:58,329 to the profile of the killer. 797 00:35:58,330 --> 00:36:01,159 - I had no doubt that he was the killer 798 00:36:01,289 --> 00:36:02,595 from all the evidence we had. 799 00:36:02,682 --> 00:36:05,119 I knew he was the person. 800 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:07,208 But you know that's always an anxious time, 801 00:36:07,295 --> 00:36:10,429 a time where it's hard to wait. 802 00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:13,083 - Learning that investigators were still working on this, 803 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:14,562 I felt very comforted. 804 00:36:14,563 --> 00:36:16,348 I mean, these people really care 805 00:36:16,478 --> 00:36:18,611 about what happened to her. 806 00:36:18,741 --> 00:36:22,309 - Eventually, those DNA results came back. 807 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:25,574 It was a match, no question. 808 00:36:25,661 --> 00:36:27,272 So excellent news. 809 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,274 We were all ecstatic. 810 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:31,972 I mean, it was the glorious day. 811 00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:34,757 We knew at that point, we've got our guy. 812 00:36:34,844 --> 00:36:36,455 - Police gear up for an arrest 813 00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:39,632 that's nearly five decades in the making. 814 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,068 - My name is Trish Mazur. 815 00:36:41,155 --> 00:36:43,331 I work at Manor Township Police Department. 816 00:36:43,462 --> 00:36:46,421 When I learned we had developed a suspect, 817 00:36:46,552 --> 00:36:47,596 I, of course, was very excited. 818 00:36:47,727 --> 00:36:49,032 It was huge. 819 00:36:49,163 --> 00:36:50,947 Now it was time for the investigators 820 00:36:51,078 --> 00:36:53,472 to do our part. 821 00:36:53,602 --> 00:36:55,822 - We were able to determine that he gets 822 00:36:55,909 --> 00:36:58,954 a Sunday newspaper delivered to his house. 823 00:36:58,955 --> 00:37:00,869 And there was always a certain time 824 00:37:00,870 --> 00:37:03,264 in the morning he would have to walk away from the house 825 00:37:03,351 --> 00:37:05,135 down the driveway. 826 00:37:05,266 --> 00:37:06,789 So we felt that that was the best way 827 00:37:06,876 --> 00:37:07,964 to effect the arrest. 828 00:37:08,095 --> 00:37:10,227 ♪ ♪ 829 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:13,578 And that's what we did. 830 00:37:13,579 --> 00:37:16,582 - Officers approached him, told him he was under arrest. 831 00:37:16,712 --> 00:37:19,411 He was immediately handcuffed. 832 00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:23,023 And myself and another Manor Township Police Officer 833 00:37:23,153 --> 00:37:23,980 took custody of him. 834 00:37:24,111 --> 00:37:27,157 ♪ ♪ 835 00:37:27,288 --> 00:37:30,509 - I think probably top three, four things 836 00:37:30,596 --> 00:37:32,380 that happened in my career was being able 837 00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:35,340 to tell Phil Biechler that we made the arrest. 838 00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:42,782 - Excuse me. [chuckles] 839 00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:52,357 Larry and I worked with Phil 840 00:37:52,487 --> 00:37:56,839 since the beginning. 841 00:37:56,970 --> 00:38:00,278 Great feeling. That's all I can say. 842 00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,194 - Detective Christopher Erb told me 843 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:10,288 that we have just arrested a man in Lindy Sue's case. 844 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:15,336 And I was, like, in shock. 845 00:38:15,423 --> 00:38:18,644 They said his name was David Sinopoli, 846 00:38:18,731 --> 00:38:21,037 and he lived right above us. 847 00:38:21,168 --> 00:38:23,736 I didn't really know who he was. 848 00:38:23,866 --> 00:38:29,480 But I knew I passed him, probably in the hallway. 849 00:38:29,481 --> 00:38:31,134 - My brother called me, 850 00:38:31,221 --> 00:38:32,788 and he said, are you sitting down? 851 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:35,791 And he's like, they have the guy. 852 00:38:35,878 --> 00:38:38,880 Honestly, you wait for so long, 853 00:38:38,881 --> 00:38:40,796 and then it's actually happening, 854 00:38:40,927 --> 00:38:43,233 and it seems surreal. 855 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:46,062 - A cold case dating back nearly a half century 856 00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:47,847 appears to have been cracked this week. 857 00:38:47,977 --> 00:38:49,978 - Sinopoli is being held without bail. 858 00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:53,635 Investigators say the DNA match is 1 in 10 trillion. 859 00:38:55,463 --> 00:38:58,118 - David Sinopoli had been married to the same woman 860 00:38:58,205 --> 00:38:59,553 for 36 years. 861 00:38:59,554 --> 00:39:01,426 He had children. He had grandchildren. 862 00:39:01,556 --> 00:39:05,081 He was beloved by his coworkers and his boss. 863 00:39:05,212 --> 00:39:08,171 People were absolutely surprised to their core 864 00:39:08,258 --> 00:39:10,086 that he turned out to have done something 865 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:12,261 so horrific in his past. 866 00:39:12,262 --> 00:39:15,048 - When I heard that he was arrested, 867 00:39:15,135 --> 00:39:16,571 there was relief, 868 00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:21,968 tears of joy and sadness, you know. 869 00:39:22,098 --> 00:39:26,233 And then you found out that he was married, 870 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,758 that he had children of his own. 871 00:39:29,845 --> 00:39:31,760 And you think, 872 00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:34,763 how could you have lived with yourself? 873 00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:37,591 [somber music] 874 00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:40,812 - In October of 2023, David Sinopoli 875 00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:43,250 enters a guilty plea for third-degree murder, 876 00:39:43,337 --> 00:39:46,121 aggravated assault, and burglary 877 00:39:46,122 --> 00:39:50,300 and is sentenced to 25 to 50 years in prison. 878 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:52,564 ♪ ♪ 879 00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:55,175 - Sinopoli went to prison without talking to anyone, 880 00:39:55,262 --> 00:39:57,089 so we never will actually know 881 00:39:57,090 --> 00:39:59,788 what exactly happened that night. 882 00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:02,355 ♪ ♪ 883 00:40:02,356 --> 00:40:04,531 But putting everything together, I would say, 884 00:40:04,532 --> 00:40:07,405 this person has an active fantasy life. 885 00:40:07,492 --> 00:40:10,669 And when he was living above Lindy and her husband, 886 00:40:10,799 --> 00:40:13,236 he must have seen this attractive younger woman 887 00:40:13,323 --> 00:40:16,239 living below him, walking in and out to her car. 888 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:20,896 Maybe he would follow her once or twice to her flower shop, 889 00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:23,769 sit outside in a parking lot, watch her go in and out, 890 00:40:23,856 --> 00:40:25,901 maybe get to know her husband's schedule. 891 00:40:25,988 --> 00:40:28,382 He's developing his active fantasy, 892 00:40:28,469 --> 00:40:30,819 and he's building up to getting the gumption, 893 00:40:30,906 --> 00:40:35,824 getting the courage to confront her. 894 00:40:35,955 --> 00:40:39,088 That night, he came to the door 895 00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:41,612 not necessarily planning to kill her, 896 00:40:41,613 --> 00:40:43,396 because he only brought a small penknife with him. 897 00:40:43,397 --> 00:40:47,226 But he didn't get very far inside before, essentially, 898 00:40:47,227 --> 00:40:49,795 his fantasy was turned away. 899 00:40:49,925 --> 00:40:51,492 That's when he lost control 900 00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:53,929 and wound up stabbing her 19 times. 901 00:40:57,324 --> 00:41:00,458 [somber music] 902 00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:02,197 - I've always wanted to know the why, 903 00:41:02,198 --> 00:41:05,375 but he's never told me and probably never will. 904 00:41:05,506 --> 00:41:08,248 ♪ ♪ 905 00:41:08,335 --> 00:41:11,990 He sent me an apology letter that had one sentence in it 906 00:41:11,991 --> 00:41:14,994 that said, "I'm very, very sorry." 907 00:41:15,081 --> 00:41:17,212 That was it. 908 00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:20,347 So to me, David Sinopoli is only sad 909 00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:24,699 because he got caught. 910 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,874 - We have to start letting it go. 911 00:41:26,875 --> 00:41:29,182 If you hold it in and keep it there, 912 00:41:29,269 --> 00:41:30,791 when you think about Lindy, that's the only thing 913 00:41:30,792 --> 00:41:31,880 you think about. 914 00:41:31,967 --> 00:41:34,013 You lose her. 915 00:41:34,143 --> 00:41:37,103 Let's remember how she lived. 916 00:41:37,233 --> 00:41:39,453 Let's just remember how wonderful she was, 917 00:41:39,584 --> 00:41:45,241 what a sweet person she was, and taken away too soon. 918 00:41:45,328 --> 00:41:49,115 - Lindy taught me how to love for the first time in my life. 919 00:41:50,812 --> 00:41:54,250 I got remarried in '91. 920 00:41:54,337 --> 00:41:59,429 I have a lovely daughter and-- who is married to a great guy. 921 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:03,390 And I have two lovely grandchildren that I adore. 922 00:42:05,566 --> 00:42:07,654 I was sad that most of the people 923 00:42:07,655 --> 00:42:10,440 that were around Lindy have all passed away-- 924 00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:14,314 her father, her mother. 925 00:42:14,444 --> 00:42:17,359 But I was glad that there was a closure for the people 926 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,755 that are still alive. 927 00:42:20,886 --> 00:42:22,235 I think Lindy should be remembered 928 00:42:22,365 --> 00:42:26,108 as a competent, compassionate, intelligent woman. 929 00:42:26,195 --> 00:42:32,419 ♪ ♪