1 00:00:01,917 --> 00:00:04,042 - [Tony] Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There: Alien Edition." 2 00:00:04,042 --> 00:00:07,042 A mysterious object flies over a military base. 3 00:00:07,042 --> 00:00:08,708 Are we under surveillance? 4 00:00:08,708 --> 00:00:10,000 - Nothing. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,250 Nothing should be coming into that airspace 6 00:00:12,250 --> 00:00:14,333 without absolute control. 7 00:00:14,333 --> 00:00:18,000 - A Navy pilot captures the strange object on video 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,042 and the Defense Department is stumped. 9 00:00:20,042 --> 00:00:22,125 Is it a genuine UFO? 10 00:00:22,125 --> 00:00:23,625 - Anything is on the table, 11 00:00:23,625 --> 00:00:26,083 but it's definitely unknown and really intriguing. 12 00:00:26,083 --> 00:00:28,250 - And a photo taken at a naval base 13 00:00:28,250 --> 00:00:31,500 that has baffled experts for nearly 70 years. 14 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:34,375 Will our experts be able to crack the case? 15 00:00:34,375 --> 00:00:36,583 - Some think that this is definitive proof 16 00:00:36,583 --> 00:00:37,792 of extraterrestrials. 17 00:00:37,792 --> 00:00:40,375 - [Tony] With UFO reports at an all-time high, 18 00:00:40,375 --> 00:00:42,625 we are examining the most compelling evidence 19 00:00:42,625 --> 00:00:43,875 caught on camera. 20 00:00:43,875 --> 00:00:45,208 Tonight's focus? 21 00:00:45,208 --> 00:00:47,625 UFO sightings reported by military forces 22 00:00:47,625 --> 00:00:49,167 around the world. 23 00:00:49,167 --> 00:00:51,250 Our experts will analyze the evidence 24 00:00:51,250 --> 00:00:53,125 and then pass a verdict. 25 00:00:53,125 --> 00:00:55,167 - So there are some who believe 26 00:00:55,167 --> 00:00:58,750 that this alien technology is surveilling humans. 27 00:00:58,750 --> 00:00:59,625 [graphic whooshing] 28 00:00:59,625 --> 00:01:01,250 - "The Proof" starts now. 29 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:06,292 [compelling music] [graphic whooshing] 30 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:11,292 Good evening, and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 31 00:01:11,292 --> 00:01:12,708 For the past decade, 32 00:01:12,708 --> 00:01:15,750 American investigative journalist Jeremy Corbell 33 00:01:15,750 --> 00:01:18,875 has been at the forefront of UFO reporting. 34 00:01:18,875 --> 00:01:20,250 He's leaked several videos 35 00:01:20,250 --> 00:01:23,250 and photos of UFOs captured by the military, 36 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:25,167 which have stumped the experts. 37 00:01:25,167 --> 00:01:27,958 And this next one might be the weirdest one yet. 38 00:01:27,958 --> 00:01:28,917 [suspenseful music] 39 00:01:28,917 --> 00:01:31,500 It's October 2017. 40 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:35,333 We are at a US joint operations base somewhere in Iraq. 41 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:38,625 It's a quiet night at this sensitive military installation. 42 00:01:38,625 --> 00:01:42,208 A targeting system scans the sky for threats 43 00:01:42,208 --> 00:01:45,625 when it's forward-looking infrared or FLIR camera 44 00:01:45,625 --> 00:01:48,500 captures something no one expected. 45 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:50,750 [pensive music] 46 00:01:50,750 --> 00:01:54,417 A jellyfish-like object moves across the sky. 47 00:01:55,625 --> 00:01:58,375 There's an organically-shaped mast at the top 48 00:01:58,375 --> 00:02:01,375 with what looks like tendrils hanging from it. 49 00:02:01,375 --> 00:02:03,208 Despite its brisk clip, 50 00:02:03,208 --> 00:02:06,375 the object maintains an eerily rigid shape 51 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:09,583 seemingly undisturbed by the air it flies through. 52 00:02:09,583 --> 00:02:12,958 Jeremy Corbell obtained and then released the video 53 00:02:12,958 --> 00:02:14,375 to instant headlines. 54 00:02:14,375 --> 00:02:16,708 But this is just a clip. 55 00:02:16,708 --> 00:02:18,417 He says the Department of Defense 56 00:02:18,417 --> 00:02:20,875 is withholding the full-length version, 57 00:02:20,875 --> 00:02:22,583 which reveals the true extent 58 00:02:22,583 --> 00:02:25,375 of the object's anomalous capabilities. 59 00:02:25,375 --> 00:02:27,833 - Every witness that described 60 00:02:27,833 --> 00:02:29,542 seeing the full footage 61 00:02:29,542 --> 00:02:32,625 describes the object going out over a lake, 62 00:02:32,625 --> 00:02:35,875 dropping into the lake for about 17 minutes, 63 00:02:35,875 --> 00:02:39,125 and then shooting off at a 45-degree angle. 64 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:39,958 [graphic whooshing] 65 00:02:39,958 --> 00:02:41,208 - [Tony] That's important 66 00:02:41,208 --> 00:02:43,625 because those alleged capabilities 67 00:02:43,625 --> 00:02:46,500 align with the Pentagon's official investigations 68 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:48,667 into what the government calls UAP, 69 00:02:50,042 --> 00:02:52,917 unidentified anomalous phenomena. 70 00:02:52,917 --> 00:02:54,875 - One of the observables we had in the Pentagon 71 00:02:54,875 --> 00:02:56,333 was transmedium travel, 72 00:02:56,333 --> 00:02:58,708 the ability to operate in multiple different domains 73 00:02:58,708 --> 00:03:00,083 and environments. 74 00:03:00,083 --> 00:03:02,208 And if this thing did indeed go underwater, 75 00:03:02,208 --> 00:03:04,083 well, it would certainly flip that bill 76 00:03:04,083 --> 00:03:06,167 as being transmedium. 77 00:03:06,167 --> 00:03:07,292 - [Tony] Not only that, 78 00:03:07,292 --> 00:03:09,458 but it may represent the return 79 00:03:09,458 --> 00:03:11,708 of a little known type of sighting. 80 00:03:11,708 --> 00:03:13,875 - I think people would be really surprised to learn 81 00:03:13,875 --> 00:03:17,917 that these type of objects have been reported for decades 82 00:03:17,917 --> 00:03:22,375 and they actually are referred to as jellyfish UFOs. 83 00:03:22,375 --> 00:03:24,417 - [Tony] One of the most famous instances 84 00:03:24,417 --> 00:03:27,333 was a 1977 mass sighting 85 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:30,333 over the Soviet city of Petrozavodsk. 86 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:32,958 This photo captures what witnesses described 87 00:03:32,958 --> 00:03:37,333 as a huge glowing jellyfish with a bright red center. 88 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:39,792 And this wasn't the only sighting of its kind 89 00:03:39,792 --> 00:03:41,458 back in the 1970s. 90 00:03:41,458 --> 00:03:43,333 - I had the personal privilege 91 00:03:43,333 --> 00:03:45,542 of speaking to an elderly gentleman 92 00:03:45,542 --> 00:03:49,250 who described in Washington D.C., in the broad daylight, 93 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:52,500 what appeared to be a luminous jellyfish. 94 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,333 And he said it looks almost like a parachute, 95 00:03:54,333 --> 00:03:55,583 as it was going up, 96 00:03:55,583 --> 00:03:58,375 had this multicolored of red and black, 97 00:03:58,375 --> 00:04:00,708 and it reminded him of molten lava. 98 00:04:00,708 --> 00:04:01,917 [suspenseful music] 99 00:04:01,917 --> 00:04:04,292 - [Tony] But why are these so-called jellyfish 100 00:04:04,292 --> 00:04:07,458 making a sudden return five decades later? 101 00:04:07,458 --> 00:04:10,208 Have they gravitated from our nation's capital 102 00:04:10,208 --> 00:04:12,958 to our nation's military installations? 103 00:04:12,958 --> 00:04:14,375 That's the concern. 104 00:04:14,375 --> 00:04:15,833 - What's so troubling here 105 00:04:15,833 --> 00:04:20,625 is that this is a very significant potential threat 106 00:04:20,917 --> 00:04:23,417 to the safety and wellbeing of the individuals 107 00:04:23,417 --> 00:04:25,625 on this military installation. 108 00:04:25,625 --> 00:04:28,042 Imagine if these things can fly now 109 00:04:28,042 --> 00:04:31,500 over controlled US military airspace 110 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:34,250 completely anonymously and unchallenged. 111 00:04:35,083 --> 00:04:38,500 Let me be clear, UAP are real. 112 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:40,917 Advanced technologies not made by our government 113 00:04:40,917 --> 00:04:42,208 or any other government 114 00:04:42,208 --> 00:04:43,375 are monitoring sensitive military installations 115 00:04:43,375 --> 00:04:44,417 around the globe. 116 00:04:44,417 --> 00:04:45,917 [suspenseful music] 117 00:04:45,917 --> 00:04:47,375 - Here on "Proof," 118 00:04:47,375 --> 00:04:49,792 we've analyzed several other transmedium UFOs, 119 00:04:49,792 --> 00:04:53,042 but none of them looked anything like this, right? 120 00:04:53,042 --> 00:04:56,750 Look at these appendages here, and here, and here. 121 00:04:56,750 --> 00:05:00,917 They seem to come down from this irregularly-shaped mast 122 00:05:00,917 --> 00:05:01,750 right there in the center. 123 00:05:01,750 --> 00:05:03,042 And then at the top, 124 00:05:03,042 --> 00:05:06,167 there are these nodules there, and there, and there. 125 00:05:06,167 --> 00:05:07,542 What are they? 126 00:05:07,542 --> 00:05:08,833 Antenna? 127 00:05:08,833 --> 00:05:11,042 I can't make heads or tails of what it is 128 00:05:11,042 --> 00:05:12,875 we're actually seeing here. 129 00:05:12,875 --> 00:05:14,042 Maybe our experts can. 130 00:05:14,042 --> 00:05:18,042 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 131 00:05:18,042 --> 00:05:19,250 Since World War I, 132 00:05:19,250 --> 00:05:20,583 camo nets have been used 133 00:05:20,583 --> 00:05:22,958 to soften the appearance of harsh edges, 134 00:05:22,958 --> 00:05:25,958 on everything from helmets to entire vehicles. 135 00:05:25,958 --> 00:05:29,875 So, could this be a drone using that time-tested technique? 136 00:05:29,875 --> 00:05:31,708 - You'll see, at one point in the video, 137 00:05:31,708 --> 00:05:34,375 you can see several people in this area. 138 00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:36,292 You know what a body temperature of a person is, 139 00:05:36,292 --> 00:05:41,375 and so this is not something that's hotter than 98 degrees. 140 00:05:41,375 --> 00:05:45,208 So when it comes to any types of military machinery, 141 00:05:45,208 --> 00:05:47,875 anything like that that run cold, 142 00:05:47,875 --> 00:05:50,375 or able to fly at a cold temperature, 143 00:05:50,375 --> 00:05:52,500 really nothing comes to mind. 144 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:55,667 - [Tony] So, is this a genuine UFO? 145 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:58,417 Certain intel says otherwise. 146 00:05:58,417 --> 00:06:01,417 - [Lt. McMillan] I reached out to sources within the Pentagon. 147 00:06:01,417 --> 00:06:02,583 They said that this video 148 00:06:02,583 --> 00:06:05,000 actually had been explained by analysts. 149 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,917 They didn't, unfortunately, tell me what that was 150 00:06:07,917 --> 00:06:09,792 because it's classified. 151 00:06:09,792 --> 00:06:11,042 [pensive music] 152 00:06:11,042 --> 00:06:12,333 - [Tony] But don't worry, 153 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:14,458 we have our own analysts on the case 154 00:06:14,458 --> 00:06:16,875 zeroing in on an important clue. 155 00:06:17,917 --> 00:06:19,958 - We can see what appears to be a flag 156 00:06:19,958 --> 00:06:21,708 very briefly in the video. 157 00:06:21,708 --> 00:06:24,708 And this enables us to estimate the wind speed 158 00:06:24,708 --> 00:06:27,167 at approximately 10 miles per hour, 159 00:06:27,167 --> 00:06:28,875 which is consistent 160 00:06:28,875 --> 00:06:33,042 with the motion of the object in question, 161 00:06:33,042 --> 00:06:36,250 and so it's possible that this could be a bunch of balloons. 162 00:06:36,250 --> 00:06:37,833 [graphic whooshing] 163 00:06:37,833 --> 00:06:40,542 - [Tony] This object does appear to drift with the wind, 164 00:06:40,542 --> 00:06:44,375 just like a balloon, except for one key detail. 165 00:06:44,375 --> 00:06:48,875 - We never see any change of shape at all. 166 00:06:48,875 --> 00:06:52,250 It seems like the object in the video is too rigid 167 00:06:52,250 --> 00:06:54,958 to be a cluster of balloons. 168 00:06:54,958 --> 00:06:57,667 - [Tony] And if this craft really dove into the water, 169 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:01,125 then sped away, as Jeremy Corbell has claimed, 170 00:07:01,125 --> 00:07:02,875 how could it be balloons? 171 00:07:02,875 --> 00:07:05,583 He says it's time to release the rest of this footage. 172 00:07:05,583 --> 00:07:09,167 - [Jeremy] The UFOs is not a matter of belief, it's true. 173 00:07:09,875 --> 00:07:13,750 So, I ask that our American government, 174 00:07:13,750 --> 00:07:17,042 please release the last bit of this footage 175 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:18,875 because it is astonishing. 176 00:07:18,875 --> 00:07:23,875 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 177 00:07:23,875 --> 00:07:25,042 - Our verdict? 178 00:07:25,042 --> 00:07:26,750 Unidentified object. 179 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:30,417 This thing defied expectations at every turn. 180 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:32,458 Camouflaged drone? 181 00:07:32,458 --> 00:07:34,042 Too cold. 182 00:07:34,042 --> 00:07:35,500 Balloons in the wind? 183 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:36,667 Too rigid. 184 00:07:36,667 --> 00:07:39,333 But until we see the full video, 185 00:07:39,333 --> 00:07:41,500 we can't call this a genuine UFO. 186 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:44,875 [suspenseful music] [graphic beeping] 187 00:07:44,875 --> 00:07:46,208 In 2022, 188 00:07:46,208 --> 00:07:49,958 Congress held a formal public hearing on UAPs, 189 00:07:49,958 --> 00:07:51,875 the first in more than 50 years. 190 00:07:51,875 --> 00:07:54,333 - Unidentified aerial phenomena 191 00:07:54,333 --> 00:07:57,000 are a potential national security threat, 192 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,250 and they need to be treated that way. 193 00:07:59,250 --> 00:08:01,000 - The Pentagon disclosed to lawmakers 194 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,042 that it has cataloged more than 400 reports of UAPs, 195 00:08:05,042 --> 00:08:07,708 11 of which were near misses with aircraft. 196 00:08:07,708 --> 00:08:10,542 They also released this next video, 197 00:08:10,542 --> 00:08:12,667 which made headlines across the world. 198 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:15,042 [suspenseful music] 199 00:08:15,042 --> 00:08:16,542 It's 2021, 200 00:08:16,542 --> 00:08:18,750 and a Navy pilot is flying his F-18 Fighter Jet 201 00:08:18,750 --> 00:08:20,375 off the East Coast, 202 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:23,792 when reports come in of a strange object in his airspace. 203 00:08:23,792 --> 00:08:25,583 As the pilot scans the skies, 204 00:08:25,583 --> 00:08:27,083 he also takes out his cell phone, 205 00:08:27,083 --> 00:08:29,000 and that's when he captures this. 206 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,375 [pensive music] 207 00:08:30,375 --> 00:08:32,292 Watch closely. Did you catch that? 208 00:08:32,292 --> 00:08:34,375 It's not something you'd have seen in "Top Gun." 209 00:08:34,375 --> 00:08:35,375 Let's zoom in. 210 00:08:35,375 --> 00:08:36,250 [suspenseful music] 211 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:37,875 For a split second, 212 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:40,042 what appears to be an unknown spherical metallic object 213 00:08:40,042 --> 00:08:41,750 hurdles past the plane. 214 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:44,500 - The US government could not say for certain 215 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:46,083 what is in this video, 216 00:08:46,083 --> 00:08:49,375 but it is something physically going by the window. 217 00:08:49,375 --> 00:08:50,625 - [Interviewer] Mr. Bray, 218 00:08:50,625 --> 00:08:51,792 can you describe what we're looking at? 219 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:53,292 What are we observing? 220 00:08:53,292 --> 00:08:56,417 - It's reflective in this video, somewhat reflective, 221 00:08:56,417 --> 00:09:01,542 and it quickly passes by the cockpit of the of the aircraft. 222 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:03,750 - [Amy] It is significant that the government is saying 223 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:05,167 that they are, in fact, real 224 00:09:05,167 --> 00:09:07,833 and that they are, in fact, unexplained. 225 00:09:07,958 --> 00:09:10,417 - [Tony] But what makes this such a mystery? 226 00:09:10,417 --> 00:09:13,375 Teitel explains it's that this craft has hallmarks 227 00:09:13,375 --> 00:09:14,833 of what UFO investigators 228 00:09:14,833 --> 00:09:17,042 called the five observables. 229 00:09:17,042 --> 00:09:18,250 [pensive music] 230 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:20,917 - [Amy] They typically demonstrate anti-gravity lift, 231 00:09:20,917 --> 00:09:22,667 they can accelerate very quickly, 232 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:24,542 and they can move at hypersonic speeds 233 00:09:24,542 --> 00:09:26,333 without any kind of exhaust. 234 00:09:26,333 --> 00:09:29,833 They're very hard to see or use some kind of cloaking, 235 00:09:29,833 --> 00:09:33,167 and they can move from water to air seamlessly. 236 00:09:34,208 --> 00:09:36,208 - [Tony] This object appears to be flying at Mach speeds 237 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:38,708 without any visible means of propulsion. 238 00:09:38,708 --> 00:09:40,500 The question for Congress and the Pentagon. 239 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:43,458 Why do the vast majority of these unidentified objects 240 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:46,292 seem to target military aircraft? 241 00:09:46,292 --> 00:09:47,792 - [Amyl] A lot of UAP sightings 242 00:09:47,792 --> 00:09:49,333 come from aircraft. 243 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:53,583 So there are some who believe that this alien technology 244 00:09:53,583 --> 00:09:55,292 is surveilling humans 245 00:09:55,292 --> 00:09:58,708 and is targeting aircraft as a means to explore it 246 00:09:58,708 --> 00:10:00,500 and study the technology here on Earth. 247 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:02,667 [pensive music] 248 00:10:02,667 --> 00:10:04,042 - So now, the military and the Congress 249 00:10:04,042 --> 00:10:07,958 are opening the doors to their investigation of UAPs. 250 00:10:07,958 --> 00:10:10,667 Well, some of them at least. 251 00:10:10,667 --> 00:10:12,875 There are still closed-door sessions happening 252 00:10:12,875 --> 00:10:15,750 on what the government is calling more sensitive cases. 253 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:18,708 But we're gonna stay focused on the case at hand 254 00:10:18,708 --> 00:10:21,792 because maybe this strange jump jet can be identified. 255 00:10:21,792 --> 00:10:23,500 Let's see what our experts say. 256 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:27,875 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 257 00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:31,542 Are we simply seeing another aircraft or even a drone? 258 00:10:31,542 --> 00:10:34,250 - We definitely do not see the wings 259 00:10:34,250 --> 00:10:35,833 or any of the control surfaces 260 00:10:35,833 --> 00:10:40,333 that you should see in a fixed-wing drone or airplane. 261 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:43,542 And then in terms of a rotary wing drone or helicopter, 262 00:10:43,542 --> 00:10:44,875 we don't see the rotors. 263 00:10:44,875 --> 00:10:46,417 Cubes and balls don't fly, 264 00:10:46,417 --> 00:10:50,417 so to me, the only type of objects that are airborne 265 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:55,375 that really could match that description would be balloons. 266 00:10:56,667 --> 00:10:58,583 - [Tony] So, could this be a balloon? 267 00:10:58,583 --> 00:10:59,875 The Pentagon claimed the wreckage 268 00:10:59,875 --> 00:11:01,708 found at Roswell in 1947 269 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:03,417 was part of a military operation 270 00:11:03,417 --> 00:11:05,208 using high-altitude balloons. 271 00:11:05,208 --> 00:11:07,333 Believers question that explanation. 272 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,250 But there is at least one known balloon 273 00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:11,917 designed to function miles above the Earth. 274 00:11:11,917 --> 00:11:14,375 - Google had what they call the Google Loon Balloon. 275 00:11:14,375 --> 00:11:15,875 They were testing balloons 276 00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:18,875 to be able to provide internet to people around the world. 277 00:11:18,875 --> 00:11:20,083 - [Tony] The typical fighter jet 278 00:11:20,083 --> 00:11:22,208 flies about 50,000 feet above sea level. 279 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:23,792 The Google Loon Balloon 280 00:11:23,792 --> 00:11:26,958 is designed for altitudes around 60 to 75,000 feet. 281 00:11:26,958 --> 00:11:28,500 But Hoffman notes two issues. 282 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,750 [graphic whooshing] 283 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:31,458 This object doesn't have the shape 284 00:11:31,458 --> 00:11:32,875 and size of a Google balloon, 285 00:11:32,875 --> 00:11:35,708 and that program ended in January 2021 286 00:11:35,708 --> 00:11:37,750 before this footage was likely taken. 287 00:11:38,708 --> 00:11:40,458 So, if it's not a plane or a balloon, 288 00:11:40,458 --> 00:11:43,708 does this mean we've got eyes on top-secret technology? 289 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:44,875 [suspenseful music] 290 00:11:44,875 --> 00:11:47,417 - That would be extremely unlikely 291 00:11:47,417 --> 00:11:50,917 because this comes from the Office of Naval Intelligence, 292 00:11:50,917 --> 00:11:54,625 and you wouldn't publicize your top secret technology. 293 00:11:54,625 --> 00:11:56,250 - [Tony] So, if it's not ours, 294 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:59,000 is it coming from somewhere further away, like outer space? 295 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,917 - [Lt. McMillan] It doesn't match our flight physics. 296 00:12:00,917 --> 00:12:03,625 In my opinion, anything is on the table till it's not. 297 00:12:03,625 --> 00:12:05,500 Could be an alien, who knows? 298 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:07,000 But it's definitely unknown, 299 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,375 and so it's really intriguing. 300 00:12:09,375 --> 00:12:12,500 [compelling music] 301 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:17,375 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 302 00:12:17,375 --> 00:12:18,625 - Our verdict? 303 00:12:18,625 --> 00:12:20,333 Genuine UFO. 304 00:12:20,333 --> 00:12:22,792 Our experts agree with naval intelligence. 305 00:12:22,792 --> 00:12:25,792 They also have no idea what they're looking at. 306 00:12:25,792 --> 00:12:27,292 The good news, 307 00:12:27,292 --> 00:12:30,000 the Pentagon is now taking this seriously enough 308 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,250 that it's established a special task force 309 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:36,292 to detect, identify, and attribute objects of interest. 310 00:12:36,292 --> 00:12:38,083 We're looking forward to their next report. 311 00:12:42,167 --> 00:12:44,000 - [Tony] The Air Force's Project Blue Book 312 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,042 investigated thousands of UFO reports. 313 00:12:46,042 --> 00:12:48,875 Many were explained; hundreds weren't. 314 00:12:48,875 --> 00:12:50,833 One rare daytime sighting 315 00:12:50,833 --> 00:12:53,667 still raises questions more than 70 years later. 316 00:12:53,667 --> 00:12:55,375 [pensive music] 317 00:12:55,375 --> 00:12:59,333 It's a muggy summer morning on July 16th, 1952. 318 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:02,875 Around 10:00 AM, 21-year-old Shell Alpert, 319 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:05,375 a Coast Guard seaman and naval photographer 320 00:13:05,375 --> 00:13:06,917 is inside his photo lab 321 00:13:06,917 --> 00:13:08,958 at the air station in Salem, Massachusetts 322 00:13:08,958 --> 00:13:10,500 cleaning his camera. 323 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:11,875 Glancing out the window, 324 00:13:11,875 --> 00:13:14,750 he suddenly spots strange lights in the sky. 325 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:16,917 Quickly, he snatches his camera off the desk 326 00:13:16,917 --> 00:13:18,458 and makes UFO history. 327 00:13:18,458 --> 00:13:20,042 [pensive music] 328 00:13:20,042 --> 00:13:23,167 Four mysterious lights appear in an asymmetrical V formation 329 00:13:23,167 --> 00:13:24,917 in the sky above the airfield 330 00:13:24,917 --> 00:13:28,208 to the right of some power plant smoke stacks. 331 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:30,250 The lights don't seem to resemble distinct 332 00:13:30,250 --> 00:13:31,500 geometric shapes, 333 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:34,458 but instead resemble rough blobs of illumination. 334 00:13:34,458 --> 00:13:36,792 - The fact that this came from a Navy photographer 335 00:13:36,792 --> 00:13:38,875 only lent to its credibility 336 00:13:38,875 --> 00:13:40,333 with the mainstream press at the time. 337 00:13:40,333 --> 00:13:42,542 And when this picture came out, was released, 338 00:13:42,542 --> 00:13:46,042 it definitely hit newspapers around the globe. 339 00:13:46,958 --> 00:13:49,417 - [Tony] The Alpert photos were eventually analyzed 340 00:13:49,417 --> 00:13:50,542 as part of a government's 341 00:13:50,542 --> 00:13:53,417 massive Project Blue Book UFO Investigations. 342 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:55,125 - [MJ] We know that there were professors 343 00:13:55,125 --> 00:13:56,833 from various universities, including Harvard, 344 00:13:56,833 --> 00:13:58,458 who looked at this picture. 345 00:13:58,458 --> 00:14:01,250 We also know that there were a lot of intelligence agencies 346 00:14:01,250 --> 00:14:04,125 and operatives trying to assess what was going on here. 347 00:14:04,125 --> 00:14:09,125 Of all the Project Blue Book reports between 1947 and 1969, 348 00:14:09,125 --> 00:14:11,292 thousands, and thousands, and thousands 349 00:14:11,292 --> 00:14:13,833 of photographs and reports were submitted. 350 00:14:13,833 --> 00:14:16,042 Only about 700 or so 351 00:14:16,042 --> 00:14:19,208 remain, according to the Air Force, unidentified. 352 00:14:19,208 --> 00:14:21,958 This photograph is one of those examples. 353 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:24,542 - [Tony] It seems the Alpert photos 354 00:14:24,542 --> 00:14:27,667 aren't the first UFO sighting to come out of Massachusetts. 355 00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:30,625 - [MJ] In fact, the first recorded UFO sighting 356 00:14:30,625 --> 00:14:34,167 in US history occurred in Massachusetts in 1639 357 00:14:34,167 --> 00:14:36,458 when Governor John Winthrop 358 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:38,375 recorded a sighting in his journal. 359 00:14:39,458 --> 00:14:41,375 - [Tony] According to Winthrop's journal, 360 00:14:41,375 --> 00:14:44,750 three locals he described as sober, discreet men 361 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:47,208 spotted a strange light in the night sky 362 00:14:47,208 --> 00:14:49,375 as they rode their boat through a marsh. 363 00:14:49,375 --> 00:14:51,750 They claimed it moved with great speed, 364 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:54,208 like an arrow, to a neighboring town. 365 00:14:54,208 --> 00:14:56,917 - People claim that this is a solid UFO story, 366 00:14:56,917 --> 00:14:59,125 and it remains unknown to this day. 367 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:01,833 - [Tony] Like the Winthrop diaries, 368 00:15:01,833 --> 00:15:04,500 the Alpert photos still spark debate. 369 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:06,667 - Some think that this is definitive proof 370 00:15:06,667 --> 00:15:07,958 of extraterrestrials, 371 00:15:07,958 --> 00:15:10,542 and others think this is just a smudge on a lens. 372 00:15:10,542 --> 00:15:12,542 [pensive music] 373 00:15:12,542 --> 00:15:15,208 - The time of day may not seem like such a big deal 374 00:15:15,208 --> 00:15:18,375 with the Alpert photos, but in fact, 375 00:15:18,375 --> 00:15:21,792 it radically changes our entire investigation. 376 00:15:21,792 --> 00:15:23,542 You'll often see daytime photos 377 00:15:23,542 --> 00:15:27,208 where the sky is so bright it actually looks white. 378 00:15:27,208 --> 00:15:30,500 In this photo, not even close. 379 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,042 I mean, look at this. 380 00:15:32,042 --> 00:15:36,542 The UFOs far exceed the daylight. 381 00:15:36,542 --> 00:15:38,042 Look at that. 382 00:15:38,042 --> 00:15:41,083 Not even the chrome car bumpers are shining as brightly. 383 00:15:41,083 --> 00:15:43,750 So, what could possibly be so bright 384 00:15:43,750 --> 00:15:46,583 at an already well-lit time of day? 385 00:15:46,583 --> 00:15:49,708 We ask our experts to shine some light on this mystery. 386 00:15:49,708 --> 00:15:54,250 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 387 00:15:54,250 --> 00:15:56,208 First, the obvious question. 388 00:15:56,208 --> 00:15:58,583 Could these images simply be everyday objects, 389 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:01,292 like planes or birds, reflecting sunlight? 390 00:16:01,292 --> 00:16:04,250 - Now, considering that the sun is very, very bright, 391 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:06,833 you might say, "Well could these be objects 392 00:16:06,833 --> 00:16:08,292 illuminated by the Sun?" 393 00:16:08,292 --> 00:16:11,125 Well, we don't see direct sunlight on the cars. 394 00:16:11,125 --> 00:16:12,833 It looks like it's a cloudy day. 395 00:16:13,625 --> 00:16:17,708 So these objects up here, they're exceedingly bright, 396 00:16:17,708 --> 00:16:19,542 something lit up by the sun. 397 00:16:19,542 --> 00:16:22,458 Looking that bright, I think, is a long shot, 398 00:16:22,458 --> 00:16:25,083 and I don't think that's what we're seeing here. 399 00:16:25,542 --> 00:16:27,958 - [Tony] Could this, then, be a deliberate camera trick, 400 00:16:27,958 --> 00:16:29,583 like double exposure? 401 00:16:29,583 --> 00:16:31,042 - Double exposure, 402 00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:34,500 where you take two photos without advancing the film 403 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:37,375 and you end up with both exposures on the same slide. 404 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:41,250 And if you took a photo of your parking lot and your factory 405 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:42,542 and then you took a photo 406 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:44,917 of just these four random bright lights, 407 00:16:44,917 --> 00:16:46,458 but in a dark room, 408 00:16:46,458 --> 00:16:48,875 you could potentially get a result like this. 409 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:50,792 I think that this image 410 00:16:50,792 --> 00:16:52,833 is low-contrast enough to explain that. 411 00:16:53,375 --> 00:16:56,375 - [Tony] But McCarthy admits that despite the low contrast, 412 00:16:56,375 --> 00:17:00,000 other tip-offs to double exposure seem to be lacking. 413 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,292 - One artifact from double exposures is ghosting, 414 00:17:03,292 --> 00:17:06,875 where you see unwanted elements of that second photograph 415 00:17:06,875 --> 00:17:09,208 in the developed final product. 416 00:17:09,208 --> 00:17:11,500 I don't really see too much of that here. 417 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:12,708 [graphic whooshing] 418 00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:14,500 - [Tony] D'Antonio looks to the witness statement 419 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,125 for critical info. 420 00:17:16,125 --> 00:17:17,875 - [Marc] He was cleaning his camera 421 00:17:17,875 --> 00:17:19,208 and then looked out the window. 422 00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:20,583 [camera clicking] 423 00:17:20,583 --> 00:17:22,917 So, the picture was taken through a window. 424 00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:25,042 That's a very interesting development. 425 00:17:25,042 --> 00:17:27,000 - [Tony] Could that window be the key 426 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,250 to solving this decades-old mystery? 427 00:17:29,250 --> 00:17:33,292 - [Marc] It's possible that when he was taking that picture 428 00:17:33,292 --> 00:17:34,458 through the window, 429 00:17:34,458 --> 00:17:36,083 he did not notice 430 00:17:36,083 --> 00:17:39,375 that there were possibly four lights behind him 431 00:17:39,375 --> 00:17:41,625 reflecting in the window. 432 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:44,708 I'm thinking that we're looking at something 433 00:17:44,708 --> 00:17:47,875 that was actually reflected in the window, 434 00:17:47,875 --> 00:17:49,042 - [Tony] But could the Air Force's 435 00:17:49,042 --> 00:17:50,792 Project Blue Book investigators 436 00:17:50,792 --> 00:17:54,208 really have overlooked such an obvious explanation? 437 00:17:54,208 --> 00:17:55,583 And what's more, 438 00:17:55,583 --> 00:17:58,667 McCarthy sees problems with D'Antonio's theory. 439 00:17:58,667 --> 00:18:00,500 He says any reflection 440 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:02,833 would mimic the perspective of the lights 441 00:18:02,833 --> 00:18:06,250 which appears smaller the further away they are. 442 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:08,833 But this photo shows the exact opposite. 443 00:18:08,833 --> 00:18:10,542 - I don't really know what we're looking at here. 444 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:13,333 It could be some lights reflected off a window 445 00:18:13,333 --> 00:18:17,333 or it could be something of supernatural origin. 446 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:18,500 We don't really know. 447 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:22,792 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 448 00:18:22,792 --> 00:18:23,792 - Our verdict? 449 00:18:23,792 --> 00:18:25,875 Genuine UFO. 450 00:18:25,875 --> 00:18:29,292 We think both our experts presented compelling cases, 451 00:18:29,292 --> 00:18:32,042 but the reflection theory just doesn't hold up. 452 00:18:32,042 --> 00:18:33,875 And we can't think of anything else 453 00:18:33,875 --> 00:18:35,958 that would explain these UFOs. 454 00:18:35,958 --> 00:18:37,458 If you can, let us know. 455 00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:44,542 - In May 2023, NASA held its first public meeting on UFOs. 456 00:18:44,542 --> 00:18:47,667 One of the videos presented certainly grabbed our attention 457 00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:51,000 not only for what the government would reveal about it, 458 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,125 but what they wouldn't. 459 00:18:52,125 --> 00:18:53,417 [suspenseful music] 460 00:18:53,417 --> 00:18:55,000 2021, 461 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,042 an undisclosed military range in the Western United States, 462 00:18:58,042 --> 00:19:00,167 a P-3 surveillance aircraft 463 00:19:00,167 --> 00:19:01,833 is in the midst of a training mission 464 00:19:01,833 --> 00:19:04,208 when its infrared sensors begin jittering. 465 00:19:04,208 --> 00:19:06,083 Soon, the flight crew sees why. 466 00:19:06,083 --> 00:19:07,542 [radio chattering] 467 00:19:07,542 --> 00:19:08,875 Before them, 468 00:19:08,875 --> 00:19:11,208 three unidentified objects appear on their cameras 469 00:19:11,208 --> 00:19:14,000 flying equidistant and on the same flight line. 470 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,458 At times, they resemble moving stars traveling westward. 471 00:19:17,458 --> 00:19:20,708 And other times, the UAPs morph into dotted lines. 472 00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:23,875 The trio's movement appears unaffected by a fourth object 473 00:19:23,875 --> 00:19:25,542 that whizzes by below them 474 00:19:25,542 --> 00:19:27,375 flying in the opposite direction. 475 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:28,958 This video was released 476 00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:31,875 and discussed publicly by the leaders of AARO, 477 00:19:31,875 --> 00:19:33,542 the government body set up 478 00:19:33,542 --> 00:19:37,833 to investigate what it calls unidentified aerial phenomenon. 479 00:19:37,833 --> 00:19:42,042 - AARO stands for the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office. 480 00:19:42,042 --> 00:19:45,375 And according to its former head, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, 481 00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:49,208 only about two to 5% of those reported cases 482 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:52,542 end up being categorized as anomalous. 483 00:19:52,542 --> 00:19:56,542 - The majority of unidentified objects reported to AARO 484 00:19:56,542 --> 00:20:00,292 and in our holdings demonstrate mundane characteristics 485 00:20:00,292 --> 00:20:02,583 of readily-explainable sources. 486 00:20:02,583 --> 00:20:05,917 -[MJ] Dr. Kirkpatrick stated that the aircraft in question 487 00:20:05,917 --> 00:20:07,250 that was recording these objects 488 00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:09,542 was not able to intercept them. 489 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,458 - [Tony] But given that this video was shot 490 00:20:11,458 --> 00:20:14,333 by a P-3 Orion surveillance plane, 491 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:17,375 we know there is much more data yet to be disclosed. 492 00:20:17,375 --> 00:20:18,917 -[MJ] It's equipped with incredibly 493 00:20:18,917 --> 00:20:21,333 high-resolution infrared cameras 494 00:20:21,333 --> 00:20:25,125 and is designed for intelligence gathering. 495 00:20:25,125 --> 00:20:26,875 This aircraft is able to collect 496 00:20:26,875 --> 00:20:30,583 significant telemetry and data and visual data 497 00:20:30,583 --> 00:20:33,708 on any given target within its search radius. 498 00:20:33,708 --> 00:20:36,458 -[Tony] But whether or not the P-3 was dispatched 499 00:20:36,458 --> 00:20:39,042 to specifically track these objects, 500 00:20:39,042 --> 00:20:40,083 that's unknown. 501 00:20:40,083 --> 00:20:41,875 [suspenseful music] 502 00:20:41,875 --> 00:20:45,667 Now, can we glean anything from where this video took place? 503 00:20:45,667 --> 00:20:48,708 Well, all we were told during the hearing 504 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:50,875 is that this video was taken on a training mission 505 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:52,667 in the Western United States, 506 00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:56,083 but with more than 30 bases in California alone, 507 00:20:56,083 --> 00:20:58,000 that's not a lot to go on. 508 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,375 So we're calling on our experts 509 00:20:59,375 --> 00:21:00,667 to get to the bottom of this. 510 00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:04,292 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 511 00:21:04,292 --> 00:21:06,917 - There is one object I can definitely explain. 512 00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:09,708 On the bottom, you do see an object streak by 513 00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:11,750 that has a definitive contrail. 514 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:14,167 That fits the profile of a plane. 515 00:21:14,167 --> 00:21:18,042 So, that's most likely one of our own aircraft in the sky. 516 00:21:18,042 --> 00:21:19,833 - [Tony] But what about the other three objects 517 00:21:19,833 --> 00:21:23,708 seemingly moving in unison and without contrails? 518 00:21:23,708 --> 00:21:25,458 - [Andrew] My gut initially tells me 519 00:21:25,458 --> 00:21:26,958 that these might be satellites. 520 00:21:26,958 --> 00:21:28,417 Starlink trains 521 00:21:28,417 --> 00:21:30,500 are becoming more and more common in the night sky, 522 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:33,667 as these satellites are deployed to low-Earth orbit. 523 00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:36,958 - [Tony] Starlink is Elon Musk's network of satellites 524 00:21:36,958 --> 00:21:39,875 that can provide internet access anywhere on the Earth. 525 00:21:39,875 --> 00:21:42,667 They are launched in groups and travel as a train 526 00:21:42,667 --> 00:21:46,042 until they reach their operating altitude and separate. 527 00:21:46,042 --> 00:21:49,375 - And when they're in lower altitude just after sunset, 528 00:21:49,375 --> 00:21:52,375 they shine brightly against the horizon, 529 00:21:52,375 --> 00:21:55,875 so you'd actually see something very similar to this. 530 00:21:55,875 --> 00:21:58,208 - [Tony] But Tim McMillan disagrees. 531 00:21:58,208 --> 00:21:59,833 - [Lt. McMillan] When you think of Starlink satellite, 532 00:21:59,833 --> 00:22:02,750 you would see is a series of a string of dots 533 00:22:02,750 --> 00:22:06,208 across the sky 'cause Starlink is a satellite chain. 534 00:22:06,208 --> 00:22:09,542 It looks like just a string of dots coming across here. 535 00:22:09,542 --> 00:22:11,542 We don't see that here. 536 00:22:11,542 --> 00:22:12,917 - [Tony] Instead, McMillan believes 537 00:22:12,917 --> 00:22:16,042 the same object McCarthy saw closer to the camera 538 00:22:16,042 --> 00:22:17,542 is the key. 539 00:22:17,542 --> 00:22:18,750 - [Lt. McMillan] If you look towards the bottom, 540 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:20,500 you can see another point of light 541 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:23,000 that resembles the other three lights. 542 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,542 We actually can see evidence of an exhaust trail 543 00:22:26,542 --> 00:22:30,250 or contrail very consistent with an airplane. 544 00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:33,458 That leads me to believe that what we're looking at here 545 00:22:33,458 --> 00:22:36,500 are, likewise, also airplanes. 546 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:38,917 However, the one that passed in front of the camera 547 00:22:38,917 --> 00:22:40,375 where we were able to see the contrail 548 00:22:40,375 --> 00:22:43,208 was just closer to the Orion filming it. 549 00:22:43,208 --> 00:22:44,875 - [Tony] In fact, McMillan believes 550 00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:47,417 AARO wanted this footage released to the public, 551 00:22:47,417 --> 00:22:49,542 specifically to pour some cold water 552 00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:51,708 on the heated topic of UAPs. 553 00:22:51,708 --> 00:22:53,083 - [Lt. McMillan] These are definitely 554 00:22:53,083 --> 00:22:54,583 distant commercial airplanes. 555 00:22:54,583 --> 00:22:58,125 Frankly, I think this video was intentionally released 556 00:22:58,125 --> 00:22:59,583 to give people an idea 557 00:22:59,583 --> 00:23:04,417 of how aircraft could be misinterpreted as UFOs or UAP 558 00:23:04,417 --> 00:23:06,042 by the Department of Defense. 559 00:23:06,042 --> 00:23:09,125 I absolutely do not believe that Department of Defense 560 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:13,083 ever thought these were unidentified aerial phenomenon. 561 00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:17,500 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 562 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:18,708 - Our verdict? 563 00:23:18,708 --> 00:23:21,167 We're going with planes in the distance. 564 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:22,708 It turns out the team at AARO 565 00:23:22,708 --> 00:23:25,333 also came to that same conclusion. 566 00:23:25,333 --> 00:23:26,792 Although we have to admit, 567 00:23:26,792 --> 00:23:30,000 it is strange they appear to be flying in unison. 568 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,667 But hey, AARO, 569 00:23:31,667 --> 00:23:35,000 next time you've got a video that can't be explained, 570 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,792 be sure to come to us. 571 00:23:39,958 --> 00:23:41,500 - With the establishment of the Pentagon's 572 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,792 All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO, 573 00:23:43,792 --> 00:23:45,917 it's clear the government is becoming more aware 574 00:23:45,917 --> 00:23:47,917 and worried about UFOs, 575 00:23:47,917 --> 00:23:51,250 especially around military targets like this one. 576 00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:52,375 Take a look. 577 00:23:52,375 --> 00:23:53,250 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 578 00:23:53,250 --> 00:23:55,125 April 20th, 2021. 579 00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:57,833 It's a quiet crystal-clear evening in the skies 580 00:23:57,833 --> 00:24:01,042 over a marine base near Twentynine Palms California 581 00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:02,792 in the Mojave Desert. [telephone ringing] 582 00:24:02,792 --> 00:24:05,000 Until multiple reports suddenly come in 583 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,667 of a strange set of lights appearing in the sky. 584 00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:10,042 The base's night-vision cameras captured this. 585 00:24:10,042 --> 00:24:11,875 [suspenseful music] 586 00:24:11,875 --> 00:24:15,375 Five orbs are hovering in a curved formation in the sky. 587 00:24:15,375 --> 00:24:16,958 [pensive music] 588 00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:19,417 They each contain a small bright spot in the center 589 00:24:19,417 --> 00:24:21,667 surrounded by a glowing aura. 590 00:24:21,667 --> 00:24:24,250 - It appears to be showing some type of arc 591 00:24:24,250 --> 00:24:25,792 of connected lights, 592 00:24:26,583 --> 00:24:28,708 but is this one object 593 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:32,083 or is it a collection of orbs staying in formation? 594 00:24:32,083 --> 00:24:33,917 - [Tony] What's unusual about this sighting 595 00:24:33,917 --> 00:24:35,833 is that the people who reported it 596 00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:37,500 aren't your average bystanders. 597 00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:39,083 -[Jason] Reportedly over 50 people 598 00:24:39,083 --> 00:24:41,833 actually witnessed this strange phenomenon, 599 00:24:42,958 --> 00:24:45,208 a group of Marines who are all very familiar 600 00:24:45,208 --> 00:24:48,458 with different types of aerospace technology, 601 00:24:48,458 --> 00:24:50,042 military aircraft. 602 00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:52,750 Yet, to them, they were fascinated enough 603 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:54,583 to say it caught their eye, 604 00:24:54,583 --> 00:24:56,500 and it was truly bizarre. 605 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:58,583 - [Tony] So, this isn't anything recognized 606 00:24:58,583 --> 00:25:00,542 by local military personnel, 607 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:02,667 could it be extraterrestrial? 608 00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:05,542 Turns out, it's not the first time alleged ETs 609 00:25:05,542 --> 00:25:08,083 have been reported near a military base. 610 00:25:08,083 --> 00:25:09,375 In 1967, 611 00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:12,750 guards outside Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana 612 00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:16,292 reported seeing a strange red light over the facility. 613 00:25:16,292 --> 00:25:19,500 The light appeared to be a hovering oval-shaped craft 614 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,833 about 30 to 40 feet in diameter. 615 00:25:21,833 --> 00:25:24,667 Then, without explanation, one by one, 616 00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:27,417 the nuclear missiles became disarmed. 617 00:25:27,417 --> 00:25:32,000 So, was something similar happening over Twentynine Palms? 618 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,750 - I think we have enough of a framework there 619 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:36,583 to say that trained military personnel 620 00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:39,250 found this to be a fascinating object, 621 00:25:39,250 --> 00:25:41,542 and, to me, that would merit further investigation. 622 00:25:41,542 --> 00:25:44,833 [suspenseful music] 623 00:25:44,833 --> 00:25:46,542 - Because this video was recorded 624 00:25:46,542 --> 00:25:48,958 by a military infrared camera, 625 00:25:48,958 --> 00:25:51,667 we can presume it hasn't been doctored. 626 00:25:51,667 --> 00:25:54,042 But what is it that we're seeing here? 627 00:25:54,042 --> 00:25:57,708 What could be behind those big balls of light? 628 00:25:57,708 --> 00:26:00,250 Time to ask our experts to illuminate us. 629 00:26:00,250 --> 00:26:03,708 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 630 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:05,542 - From first impression, 631 00:26:05,542 --> 00:26:07,958 you get the idea that these five lights 632 00:26:07,958 --> 00:26:10,083 are connected to a single object. 633 00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:12,875 This could be some type of triangular craft 634 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:15,833 that has these five lights in different points. 635 00:26:15,833 --> 00:26:18,833 But I don't see the control surfaces, the wings. 636 00:26:18,833 --> 00:26:20,667 It's traveling much too slow. 637 00:26:20,667 --> 00:26:23,625 So, we can really easily rule out airplane. 638 00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:25,375 - [Tony] After incidents like those 639 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:27,708 over other bases like Malmstrom, 640 00:26:27,708 --> 00:26:30,042 is it possible extra extraterrestrials 641 00:26:30,042 --> 00:26:33,167 really are monitoring our military capabilities? 642 00:26:33,167 --> 00:26:36,750 - Throughout history, we've had a lot of military bases 643 00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:39,917 that have had UFO reports near them. 644 00:26:39,917 --> 00:26:43,750 And what we've seen from just all those sheer cases 645 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:47,083 is it's almost on the scale of surveillance. 646 00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:50,542 What's curious is these lines that are going up there, 647 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,625 these would indicate some sort of trail 648 00:26:52,625 --> 00:26:54,750 that's being left behind them. 649 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:57,625 And you don't see that on UFO reports. 650 00:26:57,625 --> 00:26:58,750 [graphic whooshing] 651 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:00,625 - [Tony] Instead of UFOs, 652 00:27:00,625 --> 00:27:02,375 McMillan sees a clue 653 00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:05,000 that brings these objects back down to Earth. 654 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,375 - [Lt. McMillan] Looking at the smoke and vapor trail 655 00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:08,875 that's being left behind them, 656 00:27:09,042 --> 00:27:12,208 you see that these are actually independent points of light 657 00:27:12,208 --> 00:27:14,417 and they appear to be in a free fall, 658 00:27:14,417 --> 00:27:15,875 dependent on gravity. 659 00:27:15,875 --> 00:27:18,042 And the fact that these are moving slow like this 660 00:27:18,042 --> 00:27:20,542 leads me to believe that what we're looking at here 661 00:27:20,542 --> 00:27:22,667 is actually the deployment 662 00:27:22,667 --> 00:27:24,042 [weapon firing] 663 00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:26,917 of illumination flares that are providing light 664 00:27:26,917 --> 00:27:31,542 for some type of ground forces' coordinated activity. 665 00:27:31,542 --> 00:27:32,917 -[Rich] Illumination flares. 666 00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:34,708 They're very, very bright, 667 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:38,042 and they're often quite often reported as UFOs. 668 00:27:38,042 --> 00:27:42,542 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 669 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:43,708 - Our verdict? 670 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:46,708 This isn't a UFO attracted to our military. 671 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:49,625 These are just illumination flares. 672 00:27:49,625 --> 00:27:51,125 But keep an eye out 673 00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:53,875 for other unexplained objects around military bases, 674 00:27:53,875 --> 00:27:56,542 just in case the extraterrestrials 675 00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:57,917 are keeping an eye on us. 676 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,708 - [Tony] Italy has long been a hotspot for UFO sightings, 677 00:28:04,708 --> 00:28:08,083 but one case photographed by a military pilot 678 00:28:08,083 --> 00:28:11,417 continues to spark debate nearly four decades later. 679 00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,583 [suspenseful music] 680 00:28:13,583 --> 00:28:15,708 It's June 18th, 1979. 681 00:28:15,708 --> 00:28:16,792 [pensive music] 682 00:28:16,792 --> 00:28:19,500 Pilot Marshall Giancarlo Cecconi 683 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:23,333 is flying his Fiat G.91 reconnaissance aircraft. 684 00:28:24,417 --> 00:28:26,708 Outfitted with four cameras, 685 00:28:26,708 --> 00:28:29,042 they're about to come in handy. 686 00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:33,042 Around 11:30 AM, Cecconi receives a radio transmission, 687 00:28:33,042 --> 00:28:36,583 indicating the radar crew at Istrana Airfield 688 00:28:36,583 --> 00:28:40,708 has detected an unidentified object at low altitude. 689 00:28:40,708 --> 00:28:43,000 When Cecconi encounters the object, 690 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,125 he uses the aircraft's cameras 691 00:28:45,125 --> 00:28:48,833 to capture some of the most puzzling UFO photos ever taken. 692 00:28:48,833 --> 00:28:51,458 [suspenseful music] 693 00:28:51,458 --> 00:28:55,542 - It's this strange cylindrical-shaped object, 694 00:28:55,542 --> 00:28:59,708 he says it sort of looks like a semi-squashed cigar. 695 00:28:59,708 --> 00:29:01,208 The sides of it are black. 696 00:29:01,208 --> 00:29:02,917 However, the middle section on the top 697 00:29:02,917 --> 00:29:04,667 are a slightly lighter color. 698 00:29:04,667 --> 00:29:07,583 And it seems to just be floating in the air. 699 00:29:07,583 --> 00:29:11,375 - [Tony] Now, this object is reportedly 20 to 25 feet long 700 00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:15,542 and around 10 feet wide with a dull, dark surface. 701 00:29:15,542 --> 00:29:16,875 And importantly, 702 00:29:16,875 --> 00:29:19,333 the alleged craft seems completely unaffected 703 00:29:19,333 --> 00:29:20,708 by the turbulence thrown 704 00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:23,333 from the plane's formidable jet wash. 705 00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:26,375 When the object begins climbing, Cecconi pursues, 706 00:29:26,375 --> 00:29:29,708 speeding past it as he sets up another photo run. 707 00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:33,292 But when he returns, the object has vanished into thin air. 708 00:29:33,292 --> 00:29:34,458 [suspenseful music] 709 00:29:34,458 --> 00:29:35,875 Strange? 710 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:38,333 Sure, but this is nothing new for Italy. 711 00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:41,833 - Italy has a long history of UFO reports. 712 00:29:41,833 --> 00:29:43,708 - [Tony] Pentagon whistleblower David Grusch 713 00:29:43,708 --> 00:29:46,250 has recently reiterated Italian claims 714 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:49,375 that Mussolini had a secret UFO program, 715 00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:52,042 which recovered at least one down craft. 716 00:29:52,042 --> 00:29:54,875 Grusch says that when the axis fell to Allied Forces, 717 00:29:54,875 --> 00:29:57,375 the Allies confiscated the alien craft 718 00:29:57,375 --> 00:29:58,917 and shifted stateside. 719 00:29:58,917 --> 00:30:00,500 Sound incredible? 720 00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:04,167 How about another incident with a few thousand eyewitnesses? 721 00:30:04,167 --> 00:30:05,417 -[MJ] One of the most famous cases 722 00:30:05,417 --> 00:30:08,875 in Italian UFO history occurred in 1954. 723 00:30:08,875 --> 00:30:11,042 There was a big soccer match in Florence, 724 00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:13,417 and a crowd of 10,000 people looked up 725 00:30:13,417 --> 00:30:16,750 and saw these strange objects flying over the stadium. 726 00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:18,583 - [Tony] Some accounts claimed the objects 727 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:20,333 dropped a glitter-like substance, 728 00:30:20,333 --> 00:30:22,833 and others describe the objects as looking like, 729 00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:25,125 you guessed it, a Cuban cigar. 730 00:30:25,917 --> 00:30:27,667 But, as MJ Banias points out, 731 00:30:27,667 --> 00:30:31,208 this cigar-shaped sighting has something others may lack. 732 00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:34,083 -[MJ] This case has a lot going for it 733 00:30:34,083 --> 00:30:35,792 from a credibility perspective. 734 00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:40,375 One, you have a fighter pilot who knows the sky. 735 00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:42,708 He knows what should and shouldn't be up there. 736 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:44,500 [suspenseful music] 737 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:47,542 - All pilots are trained to be aware of their surroundings 738 00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:50,542 and to be on the lookout for something unusual. 739 00:30:50,542 --> 00:30:55,625 Plus, the pilots who flew the Fiat G.91 reconnaissance plane 740 00:30:55,625 --> 00:30:58,000 had very specialized training to observe, record, 741 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,958 and report with critical detail. 742 00:31:00,958 --> 00:31:03,042 Could we have a better witness? 743 00:31:03,042 --> 00:31:05,000 Let's see how our experts do with this one. 744 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,125 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 745 00:31:10,292 --> 00:31:12,708 -[Ric] Nobody's had craft that are cylindrical like this 746 00:31:12,708 --> 00:31:13,917 without wings, 747 00:31:13,917 --> 00:31:15,917 without any typical structures 748 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,583 that we normally see on aircraft. 749 00:31:17,583 --> 00:31:19,875 But it has positive lift. 750 00:31:19,875 --> 00:31:22,125 There's no propulsion system on it, 751 00:31:22,125 --> 00:31:23,792 and yet it's up in the air. 752 00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:25,958 [suspenseful music] 753 00:31:25,958 --> 00:31:27,333 -[Andrew] One of the most peculiar things 754 00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:28,375 about this object, 755 00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:29,875 it went from being stationary and midair 756 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:31,500 to vanishing without a trace. 757 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:35,208 In order to accelerate out of this area that quickly, 758 00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:36,917 it would've to have some kind of propulsion 759 00:31:36,917 --> 00:31:38,792 that didn't exist in 1979 760 00:31:38,792 --> 00:31:40,917 and certainly doesn't still exist today. 761 00:31:40,917 --> 00:31:42,542 - [Tony] Some have speculated 762 00:31:42,542 --> 00:31:45,083 it could be a secret military test craft, 763 00:31:45,083 --> 00:31:47,458 but McCarthy doesn't see the logic. 764 00:31:47,458 --> 00:31:49,542 - You would think if this was some secret military craft, 765 00:31:49,542 --> 00:31:50,875 they would've known what it was 766 00:31:50,875 --> 00:31:52,542 and not sent a fighter pilot to go document it. 767 00:31:52,542 --> 00:31:54,375 - [Tony] So, we turn to another theory, 768 00:31:54,375 --> 00:31:57,000 that this object was a solar balloon. 769 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,708 - [Andrew] This actually really closely resembles 770 00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:00,125 a solar balloon. 771 00:32:00,125 --> 00:32:02,542 Solar balloons are made with black materials, 772 00:32:02,542 --> 00:32:04,458 so that they can absorb the sun's energy 773 00:32:04,458 --> 00:32:06,708 so they heat up the air and begin to float. 774 00:32:06,708 --> 00:32:08,042 - [Tony] As Hoffman points out, 775 00:32:08,042 --> 00:32:10,667 the balloon theory does also explain 776 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:12,083 the sudden disappearing act 777 00:32:12,083 --> 00:32:14,208 -[Rich] When it disappeared off-radar, 778 00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:18,292 was that because the balloon blew up and disintegrated? 779 00:32:18,292 --> 00:32:20,458 - [Tony] But one piece of the balloon puzzle 780 00:32:20,458 --> 00:32:21,833 just doesn't fit, 781 00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:23,375 the object's stability 782 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,875 in the face of Cecconi's roaring jet wash. 783 00:32:25,875 --> 00:32:28,542 - In order to not be affected by the aircraft's turbulence, 784 00:32:28,542 --> 00:32:30,042 this object would've had to be tethered 785 00:32:30,042 --> 00:32:32,417 from at least three different locations. 786 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:34,958 That way, it would be stationary in the sky 787 00:32:34,958 --> 00:32:36,375 and not move at all. 788 00:32:36,375 --> 00:32:38,208 Despite being photographed from multiple angles, 789 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:40,542 not a single tether is visible 790 00:32:40,542 --> 00:32:42,458 in these photographs of this object. 791 00:32:42,458 --> 00:32:43,833 It's really hard to say, for sure. 792 00:32:43,833 --> 00:32:47,792 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 793 00:32:47,792 --> 00:32:48,708 - Our verdict? 794 00:32:48,708 --> 00:32:50,958 Genuine UFO. 795 00:32:50,958 --> 00:32:53,625 At first glance, everything about these pictures 796 00:32:53,625 --> 00:32:58,042 indicates we are looking at some kind of massive balloon. 797 00:32:58,042 --> 00:32:59,375 But the pilot's testimony 798 00:32:59,375 --> 00:33:02,542 about the object's bizarre stability in the jet wash 799 00:33:02,542 --> 00:33:05,167 poses far more questions than we have answers for. 800 00:33:09,417 --> 00:33:11,625 - Trindade, a small volcanic island 801 00:33:11,625 --> 00:33:14,458 located about 700 miles off the coast of Brazil, 802 00:33:14,458 --> 00:33:17,250 is well-known today as an important nesting spot 803 00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:19,875 for the endangered green turtle. 804 00:33:19,875 --> 00:33:21,208 But as you'll see in our next story, 805 00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:24,625 turtles might not be the only exotic visitors 806 00:33:24,625 --> 00:33:26,292 to this desolate island. 807 00:33:26,292 --> 00:33:27,875 [suspenseful music] [waves crashing] 808 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:31,083 It's high noon on January 16th, 1958. 809 00:33:31,083 --> 00:33:35,000 The Brazilian naval training ship Almirante Saldanha 810 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,667 is preparing to depart Trindade Island, Brazil. 811 00:33:38,667 --> 00:33:41,125 - Onboard the ship are a number of sailors 812 00:33:41,125 --> 00:33:43,292 and also scientists who are going out 813 00:33:43,292 --> 00:33:46,083 on an international scientific mission. 814 00:33:46,083 --> 00:33:48,875 As the crew members gather on deck before leaving, 815 00:33:48,875 --> 00:33:51,208 their attention is all diverted 816 00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:54,750 to this thing flying nearby in the sky. 817 00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:56,083 -[Tony] The crew immediately 818 00:33:56,083 --> 00:33:57,708 summons their esteemed photographer, 819 00:33:57,708 --> 00:33:59,542 Almiro Barauna, 820 00:33:59,542 --> 00:34:01,792 and he captures a series of images 821 00:34:01,792 --> 00:34:03,583 that would become UFO legend. 822 00:34:04,875 --> 00:34:06,667 A dark gray aerial object 823 00:34:06,667 --> 00:34:09,250 looks to be flying over the distant mountain. 824 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,542 [graphic whooshing] 825 00:34:11,542 --> 00:34:15,958 Zooming in reveals what appears to be a saucer-shaped object 826 00:34:15,958 --> 00:34:17,375 with a ring around its center, 827 00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:20,208 almost resembling the planet Saturn. 828 00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:22,917 Barauna claimed the UFO approached the island, 829 00:34:22,917 --> 00:34:25,042 flew behind a mountain peak, 830 00:34:25,042 --> 00:34:27,792 and then turned back around the way it came. 831 00:34:27,792 --> 00:34:28,833 [graphic whooshing] 832 00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:30,125 One of the witnesses, 833 00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:33,583 Vice Admiral Paulo de Castro Moreira da Silva, 834 00:34:33,583 --> 00:34:37,542 said the object was encircled by a greenish glow. 835 00:34:37,542 --> 00:34:40,167 - [Amy] The crew all saw the object glowing 836 00:34:40,167 --> 00:34:42,542 before it turned towards Wished Peak, 837 00:34:42,542 --> 00:34:46,583 then it turned sharply northwest and disappeared from view. 838 00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:50,208 The entire encounter lasted just 20 seconds. 839 00:34:50,208 --> 00:34:52,333 - [Tony] Immediately, Barauna's photos 840 00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:54,375 became an international sensation. 841 00:34:54,375 --> 00:34:57,042 While some were skeptical of the photographs, 842 00:34:57,042 --> 00:34:59,125 their authenticity was seemingly bolstered 843 00:34:59,125 --> 00:35:01,458 by multiple investigations. 844 00:35:01,458 --> 00:35:02,917 -[Amy] The photographs were studied 845 00:35:02,917 --> 00:35:06,042 by the Brazilian Navy's aerial reconnaissance laboratory, 846 00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:08,958 as well as the aerophotogrammetric lab 847 00:35:08,958 --> 00:35:10,542 of Cruzeiro do Sul. 848 00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,125 They were deemed to be authentic 849 00:35:12,125 --> 00:35:13,875 taken of a real event, 850 00:35:13,875 --> 00:35:15,583 backed up by the eyewitness testimony 851 00:35:15,583 --> 00:35:18,208 of military experts and personnel. 852 00:35:18,208 --> 00:35:19,375 They were even confirmed 853 00:35:19,375 --> 00:35:22,375 by the Brazilian president at the time. 854 00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:24,208 - [Tony] In the years since, however, 855 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:26,375 new details revealed about the incident 856 00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:29,625 have drawn skepticism to the once bona fide evidence. 857 00:35:29,625 --> 00:35:31,708 -[Amy] Barauna held the negatives 858 00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:33,292 away from the Brazilian Navy 859 00:35:33,292 --> 00:35:35,417 for two days before surrendering them. 860 00:35:35,417 --> 00:35:38,125 He had even cut some of the photographs off 861 00:35:38,125 --> 00:35:40,042 of the end of the film roll. 862 00:35:40,042 --> 00:35:42,875 It's unclear whether he tampered with the negatives 863 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:44,208 before handing them over 864 00:35:44,208 --> 00:35:46,042 or whether there was something else on the film 865 00:35:46,042 --> 00:35:47,292 he didn't want seen. 866 00:35:47,292 --> 00:35:49,292 And in August of 2010, 867 00:35:49,292 --> 00:35:51,458 a Brazilian TV show claimed he was known 868 00:35:51,458 --> 00:35:54,375 to have created hoaxed photographs before. 869 00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:57,250 - [Tony] Both in spite of and because of the controversy, 870 00:35:57,250 --> 00:35:59,542 the incident continues to be one of Brazil's 871 00:35:59,542 --> 00:36:02,042 most famous UFO encounters, 872 00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:03,333 and that's saying something. 873 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:04,625 [compelling music] [graphic whooshing] 874 00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:07,917 - [Amy] The Brazilian UFO archives spans 60 years 875 00:36:07,917 --> 00:36:12,708 and has more than 700 documented and researched UFO cases. 876 00:36:12,708 --> 00:36:17,083 And of all of them, this is one of the most legendary cases 877 00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:19,167 in all of Brazil's history. 878 00:36:19,167 --> 00:36:22,458 [suspenseful music] 879 00:36:22,458 --> 00:36:23,958 - Brazilian newspapers 880 00:36:23,958 --> 00:36:26,792 ended up printing Barauna photographs. 881 00:36:26,792 --> 00:36:28,417 He took six pictures in total, 882 00:36:28,417 --> 00:36:32,125 but the alleged saucer only appeared in four of them, 883 00:36:32,125 --> 00:36:34,667 supposedly because he was bumped by sailors 884 00:36:34,667 --> 00:36:37,292 during the excitement of the event. 885 00:36:37,292 --> 00:36:40,750 Something tells me our experts are just as hyped up 886 00:36:40,750 --> 00:36:41,917 to analyze this case. 887 00:36:41,917 --> 00:36:46,792 [pensive music] [graphic beeping] 888 00:36:46,792 --> 00:36:48,375 -[Marc] I grew up with this image. 889 00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:52,708 When I was a little kid, this was my gateway UFO. 890 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,125 - [Tony] First, D'Antonio addresses the theory 891 00:36:55,125 --> 00:36:57,750 that this is simply a terrestrial aircraft. 892 00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:01,125 - [Marc] Aircraft at the time had very specific shapes, 893 00:37:01,125 --> 00:37:05,667 and it doesn't match any of those configurations from 1958. 894 00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:06,792 [graphic whooshing] 895 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:08,833 - [Tony] Astrophotographer Andrew McCarthy 896 00:37:08,833 --> 00:37:10,708 reviews another common theory 897 00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:12,708 that this object is simply a bird. 898 00:37:14,042 --> 00:37:16,333 -[Andrew] It's shaped somewhat similarly to a bird in flight, 899 00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:20,167 but birds actually tend to absorb more light. 900 00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:22,708 So, they would show up as a shadowy object 901 00:37:22,708 --> 00:37:25,042 against the relatively bright blue sky. 902 00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:26,625 So, in this case, 903 00:37:26,625 --> 00:37:29,792 I think we can safely rule out it being a bird. 904 00:37:29,792 --> 00:37:31,917 - [Tony] But examining the shadows further 905 00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:35,708 alerts McCarthy to a detail he considers suspicious. 906 00:37:35,708 --> 00:37:37,083 -[Andrew] When you look at this object closely, 907 00:37:37,083 --> 00:37:38,500 you see at the top and bottom of it 908 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,250 are roughly the same brightness. 909 00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:42,083 If this was a flying object, 910 00:37:42,083 --> 00:37:43,167 the top of it would be 911 00:37:43,167 --> 00:37:44,208 illuminated by the Sun 912 00:37:44,208 --> 00:37:45,125 and the bottom 913 00:37:45,125 --> 00:37:46,167 would be in shadow. 914 00:37:46,167 --> 00:37:47,542 And since this object 915 00:37:47,542 --> 00:37:50,708 doesn't seem to obey the laws of physics, 916 00:37:50,708 --> 00:37:53,333 I have to start looking at other explanations 917 00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:56,000 of how this managed to get on film. 918 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,417 - [Tony] So, are these legendary photos a hoax after all? 919 00:37:59,417 --> 00:38:01,583 One theory is that airbrushing techniques 920 00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:03,208 were used to create a hoax, 921 00:38:03,208 --> 00:38:04,917 but McCarthy disagrees. 922 00:38:04,917 --> 00:38:06,375 - Airbrushing film 923 00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:08,125 is basically like painting whatever you want 924 00:38:08,125 --> 00:38:10,333 directly into the film negative, 925 00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:12,542 which, of course, would be easily detectable 926 00:38:12,542 --> 00:38:13,917 by the Brazilian navy. 927 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:17,375 So, it may still be a hoax, just not airbrushed. 928 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:18,708 - [Tony] If there's no smoking gun, 929 00:38:18,708 --> 00:38:21,708 how do we decide if it's real or a hoax? 930 00:38:21,708 --> 00:38:23,250 D'Antonio says the answer 931 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:25,583 is a little more nuanced than that. 932 00:38:25,583 --> 00:38:27,417 - There's no way to look at this 933 00:38:27,417 --> 00:38:30,042 and definitively say it's a hoax 934 00:38:30,042 --> 00:38:32,458 or definitively say it's real 935 00:38:32,458 --> 00:38:35,542 'cause there's problems with each of those determinations. 936 00:38:35,542 --> 00:38:37,792 But if these are a hoax, you know what I say? 937 00:38:38,792 --> 00:38:40,708 So what? Why? 938 00:38:40,708 --> 00:38:44,792 Because these are images that many people grew up with, 939 00:38:44,792 --> 00:38:48,208 and they learn to be critical thinkers as a result of them. 940 00:38:48,208 --> 00:38:51,875 My entry into the field is, in part, because of this photo. 941 00:38:51,875 --> 00:38:56,417 If it's hoaxed, it brought in a lot of people into ufology, 942 00:38:56,417 --> 00:38:57,958 and we were better for it. 943 00:38:57,958 --> 00:39:01,042 [pensive music] 944 00:39:01,042 --> 00:39:03,708 [graphic beeping] 945 00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:06,625 - Our verdict? 946 00:39:06,625 --> 00:39:10,000 For now, this remains a genuine UFO. 947 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,833 All we really know is that a group of scientists 948 00:39:12,833 --> 00:39:15,917 claim to have seen a glowing object in the sky 949 00:39:15,917 --> 00:39:17,417 at the same time. 950 00:39:17,417 --> 00:39:19,917 We don't think the negatives were airbrushed, 951 00:39:19,917 --> 00:39:23,708 but we still can't explain the anomalous light and shadow. 952 00:39:23,708 --> 00:39:26,708 This flying object could be real, it could be fake. 953 00:39:26,708 --> 00:39:30,583 But until we learn more, it remains unidentified. 954 00:39:30,583 --> 00:39:31,958 [graphic whooshing] 955 00:39:31,958 --> 00:39:33,625 Around the world, 956 00:39:33,625 --> 00:39:36,292 military forces continue to document objects 957 00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:38,333 that defy explanation. 958 00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:42,750 If something is out there, are they friend or foe? 959 00:39:43,875 --> 00:39:45,625 Thank you for watching this special edition 960 00:39:45,625 --> 00:39:46,833 of "The Proof Is Out There." 961 00:39:46,833 --> 00:39:48,833 Please send us any videos, images, 962 00:39:48,833 --> 00:39:50,958 or sound that you think we should investigate. 963 00:39:50,958 --> 00:39:53,458 And remember to keep those cameras rolling. 964 00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:57,542 [compelling music] [graphic whooshing]