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Going against a big company
like Boeing does not happen every day.

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Raise your right hand.

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Do you solemnly swear the testimony
you're about to give is the truth,

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Boeing will fight you to the bitter end.

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So what he was instructing people to do
was violate rules and regulations

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that they could be actually held liable,
criminally charged for.

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We could very well be putting
the public at risk.

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The intensity of the implications
of what he was testifying about

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made me take a pause.

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John was a brave guy for speaking out.

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But I personally thought to myself
that this shit could get somebody killed.

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We were scheduled for John to continue
the deposition the next morning.

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But at ten o'clock,
John had not arrived yet.

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So I called the hotel…

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…and asked to be put through to his room.

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And the phone just rang.

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I asked if someone can go up

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and do a check
to see if he was still sleeping.

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They said, "No, he's not there."

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I asked, "Is his truck outside?"

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And the manager came back on the phone
and said she had gone out to his truck

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and looked at him from the passenger side.

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And that's when she called 911.

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Boeing has given the world
yet another reason to fear flying.

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Several of the company's
new Dreamliner planes have caught on fire.

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One of the Boeing 777's
engines failed minutes after takeoff.

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And this is my parents' house
after a 777 engine blew up in the sky.

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A hundred
and twenty-nine passengers were evacuated.

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Five people were injured.

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Fifty injured
after a flight lost control midair.

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One passenger
was killed from an explosion.

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These are incredibly
dangerous things that continue to happen.

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When you see news story
after news story, incident after incident,

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you wonder how Boeing is still in the air.

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I'm that kid that still looks up
at airplanes every time I hear one.

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"Oh my God!" Yeah.

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I always loved aviation.

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My dad worked on a F-14.

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So I always would go to the gates
and watch the airplanes fly off.

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Growing up in the Seattle area,
I always thought

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that I would eventually work at Boeing.

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I was very happy when Boeing recruited me
out of school.

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Boeing was a fantastic company.

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If you had your Boeing shirt on, people
would come up to you and talk to you.

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It was just a sense of pride.

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We have ignition.
We have liftoff.

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I was a rocket scientist
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but I wanted to move to airplanes.

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And I wanted to work

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in the best airplane manufacturer
in the world.

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Over a century, Boeing
transformed travel across the globe.

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The biggest
aerospace company in the world.

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Really, I was proud working for Boeing.

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I'm still proud working for Boeing.

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Boeing changed my life.

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We were really poor growing up.

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And the financial trajectory
just totally changed.

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Working at Boeing, to have a job there,
it was really a badge of honor.

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This is Boeing.
They build airplanes.

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And always there is one idea,

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make everything just a little better
than it really needs to be.

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Boeing Company was very unique
in that if there was ever a dispute,

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the quality department
made the final decision

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as to whether or not
to sign off on the work.

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- Okay, so we're ready to go, right?
- Yes.

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You had, like, two or three eyes
on everything that you did

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to just make sure it was accurate.

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I don't think that's gonna work.
I really don't.

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Back in those days,
quality was the brakes of the system.

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If there was a problem,
quality managers stopped the line.

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Management had your back.

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-Have the guys stand by till we're ready.
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Then all of a sudden,
that whole atmosphere changed.

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So what is it like to be the CEO?
To arrive? What's day one there?

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What did you find
when you arrived at Boeing?

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The approach was to start
at the beginning.

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That the culture needed
a ground-up discussion.

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The decline of Boeing.

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You can trace a lot of it right back
to the hiring of the CEO, Jim McNerney.

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He seemed the perfect candidate.

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He had gone to Yale to do his BA
and gone to Harvard to do his MBA.

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Jim McNerney looked like a U.S. senator
from central casting.

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Jim McNerney was
a long-time executive at General Electric

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and a protégé of arguably the most
influential CEO of the 20th century,

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a man named Jack Welch.

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I'm part, like so many others are,
of an American dream.

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Jack Welch was
the first CEO of a major American company

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to focus on maximizing profits
at all costs.

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He was quick to institute outsourcing,
offshoring, mass layoffs.

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The best thing
you can do to an employee,

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as early as you know
they're the bottom ten, let them know.

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Famously, Jack Welch at GE
would let the bottom 10% go every year.

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Always have people nervous
about their jobs.

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With all of these strategies,
Jack Welch turned GE

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into the most valuable company
in the world.

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The kind of company that
almost every other American corporation

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looked up to.

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And the Boeing board was no exception.

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I knew I wanted to run something.
I didn't know what it was.

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When McNerney takes over,
Boeing goes all in

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on the Jack Welch-style
"profits above all else."

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He was also now tasked
with developing a new airplane.

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The new 787
hasn't been built yet,

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but Boeing is so certain
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it calls it the Dreamliner.

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To design and build the 787,

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it was going to cost
approximately $10 billion.

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But the Boeing board
didn't want to spend that.

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A source gave me internal documents

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showing that Boeing's plan
was to build this plane for $5 billion,

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half of what it would normally have cost.

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Boeing was always known
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and the building of their airplanes.

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The real big shift was during the 787.

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We found out
that they were going to be outsourcing

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major sections of the airplane
to save money.

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Mid-body section
was built in Italy.

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Wings and batteries
from Japan.

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From South Korea,
wingtips and the aft fuselage parts.

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The outsourcing was
almost the entire airplane.

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You knew that was gonna have
a direct effect on safety and quality.

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We no longer have the immediate control
about the safety of those parts.

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We just have to accept what is given to us
and put them on the airplane.

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Parts started coming in
from these suppliers…

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…and the plan was the plane
would be snapped together in three days.

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The first time Boeing joined
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somebody sent me a picture.

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There was a huge gap between the two.

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The problem was
that some of these companies

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couldn't do what Boeing hired them to do.

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They couldn't produce
the parts they were supposed to produce.

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It went horrible.

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Too much of the airplane was outsourced.

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Nothing snapped together.

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And the delays
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So Boeing wanted to build
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in an effort to increase production.

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Boeing had started in Seattle

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and had never built a plane anywhere else.

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This was a place where Boeing had

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perhaps the most skilled aviation
manufacturing workforce in the world.

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But it was largely unionized.

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And McNerney hated unions.

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They cost Boeing more money.

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And now in 2009, he's saying,

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"Well, we're gonna build
a second 787 line in South Carolina."

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I am always proud to say
we don't have unions in South Carolina

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because we don't need unions
in South Carolina.

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This was, again,
Boeing leadership making decisions,

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not in the name of safety
but in the name of cost savings,

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in the name of corporate profits.

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What have you learned from your engineers

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about bringing it back
and reconstructing the old Boeing

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that we all grew up with?

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Well, we're not going back
to the old Boeing.

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- Five, four, three, two, one.
- …two, one.

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Cut!

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When Boeing set up
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there was no aviation business there.

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And so, of course, they didn't have
experienced workers.

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They constantly were sending experts
from the Seattle area.

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John Barnett was one of them.

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When I first started with Boeing,

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a group of us were standing around
and talking about where you're from.

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I was telling them
that I'm from Louisiana.

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One of my buddies popped off,

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"Well, you're just an old swamp dog
from Louisiana, ain't you?"

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You know, from then on, I was "Swampy."

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I was a quality manager
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I was actually
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brought down to Charleston
to help set up the new Dreamliner site.

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As a quality manager, it's my job
to make sure the airplane's built right.

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John was a solid quality man,
an airplane man.

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We were both quality managers.

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We were good friends.

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I used to buy gator tail
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'cause he was a Louisiana boy.

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Me being a Southern man,

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South Carolina was my opportunity
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We always said he was loud and proud.

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You knew when he walked in the room
because he was loud.

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Yeah, Swamp Dog.

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When I moved to Charleston
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I could see that we were
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that quality doesn't take
a back seat to anything.

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John and I really got to know each other
through our recruitment trips.

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We would interview
in excess of 100 people in a week.

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We were told from the beginning

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they didn't want
the union influence in Charleston.

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And part of the agreement
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was they would hire
the majority of the employees locally.

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We was doing job fairs.

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We were hiring people
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Pretty much we got to where
if you knew what a screwdriver was,

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you was hired by Boeing.

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What do you think
about the people here?

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They fucking suck.

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They suck. Not everyone of course.

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Not everyone, but the majority
of them here fucking suck.

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They're just punching a clock,
that's my opinion.

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Yeah, it's all they do.

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I went to my leadership
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"These people aren't being trained
the way they should."

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"Nothing about procedures,
FAA requirements."

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"They're just being trained
how to rubber-stamp paperwork."

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But my leadership,
they didn't care about training.

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They just wanted product
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Charleston had a workforce
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one of the most complicated machines
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Mistakes started piling up
almost immediately.

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I was walking through
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and I heard a very loud pounding.

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As I got closer, I witnessed
a manager taking a sledgehammer

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to pound a pin in a landing gear.

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I thought to myself,
I need to record what's going on here.

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I took that camera
and showed John Barnett.

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You don't use a sledgehammer
to put together an airplane.

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The fuse pin had to be just beat to hell.

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And actually, back in the '90s,
we had issues with those pins,

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cracking from fatigue.

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The Israeli El Al jet
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after two engines fell off.

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Boeing, the company that built
the jumbo jet, is now urging all airlines

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to inspect the pins that hold the engines
to the wings of 747s.

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There's so many possibilities
for fractures in that, it's unreal.

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John said, "Man, you gotta take this
to upper management."

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I expected them to reprimand this manager
and make it right.

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Instead, I was instructed
to get rid of the video.

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I was sent off-site to keep me
from investigating what was going on.

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It seemed like a way to tell us
production is gonna move on

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whether we wanted them to or not.

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You've got to end up
being better and reaching higher.

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So it's not a matter
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and everybody feeling good
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Uh, there's an element
of push, leadership, uh,

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and stretch, uh, provided by the boss.

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Jim McNerney was laser-focused

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on meeting the schedule
at the lowest cost.

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And so any delays in production
were not to be countenanced.

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Here, everybody's being pushed
to meet this fucking schedule,

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regardless of quality.

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If the airplane was not finished
as quickly as possible,

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it would hurt the manager's bonuses.

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At the time, I was inspecting an airplane.

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I saw a hole in the aft body join,

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and the fastener that was in there
was not the right size.

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I had concerns with what I'd seen.

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They've lost airplanes
with fasteners like that.

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I raised it to my quality manager,

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and he said, "Mind your own business."

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It was a major ass-chewing for anybody
that would have stopped the process

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to be able to fix a defect.

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Those people would be in trouble.

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It's my pleasure to welcome you
to the certification ceremony

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for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

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After the rollout
of the Dreamliner,

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Boeing was in financial trouble.

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And it didn't want to invest
in another all-new design.

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Because investing in a new plane
is an awful lot of money.

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Boeing finds itself facing
turbulence by a foreign rival

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with some very big ambitions.

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Airbus has received
the good-to-go.

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The A320neo has the thumbs-up.

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Then Airbus announced
it would put new fuel-efficient engines

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on its most popular jet

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that would save
something like 20% of the fuel cost.

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Customers have ordered
over 4,300 of the planes.

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Airbus has simply been
cleaning Boeing's clock.

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Jim McNerney freaked out.

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They needed to develop a new airplane.

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Boeing was tending towards
an all-new replacement for the 737.

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But that would have taken years.

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Jim McNerney made
a really rushed decision.

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McNerney decided,
"Let's just do the simple thing

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and put new fuel-efficient engines
on the existing 737."

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And that becomes the 737 MAX.

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As soon as they announced this,
it began to have really heavy sales.

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Massive order
that Southwest Airlines will be placing.

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Lion Air Group has purchased
50 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft.

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We've got an order book
as far as the eye can see.

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Big relief for Boeing.

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And that meant profits for shareholders.

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- Jim McNerney.
- Thank you.

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And a lot of money for the CEO.

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Ah!

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In 2015,
when Jim McNerney stepped down,

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he'd made hundreds of millions of dollars

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and took home
many tens of millions in retirement.

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I'm sure when he left, he thought,
"Wow, I did a great job."

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"Look at the stock price now."

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And because cost-cutting
looked successful,

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it was gonna continue to happen
even after he left.

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When McNerney stepped down,

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the board installed
his hand-picked successor,

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a man named Dennis Muilenburg.

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Before he took over, Muilenburg
shadowed McNerney for 18 months.

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And I think, in that time,
McNerney pointed out to him

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all these things he'd been doing
that were so successful financially

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and told him, "Keep it up."

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So he did.

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Shares of Boeing
continuing to soar.

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Were you surprised watching
your stock price move up parabolically?

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I don't say that I was surprised.
We had promised production ramp-up.

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We're now delivering on that ramp-up.

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Which I guess deserves a higher multiple.

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-That's what I'm thinking.
-We'll talk a lot about commercial but…

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When Muilenburg came in,
I thought, "Well, nothing changes."

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And actually, it gets worse.

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One day, I was called down
to the Dreamliner.

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We found all these metal slivers

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on all this electronic wiring
under the floorboard.

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As they were installing the floorboards,

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it's peeling the threads
off of these fasteners.

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Well, over time, this metal sliver's
gonna vibrate down in there,

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and it's gonna short wires out.

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It's been known that just a little short

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will bring down a whole plane.

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Swissair 111,
we have smoke in the cockpit.

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Uh, request immediate return.

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Swissair Flight 111
had a chafed wire

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in an entertainment system,

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caused a fire
and brought down the whole plane.

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Killed everybody on board.

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We're about 6,000 feet,
hovering above the wreckage.

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TWA Flight 800
had a chafed wire in the fuel tanks,

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blew it out of the sky.

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There's something like 20,000
of these fasteners

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on a 787 Dreamliner.

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We're looking at
potentially 60,000 slivers

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flying around on these wires.

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So I brought it up to my boss.

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And he said, "Ah, it's gonna cost too much
and take too much time to clean it."

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How much is it gonna cost
and how much time is it gonna take

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if one of these planes goes down
with 350 people on board?

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I said, "I will not put
my name on this airplane

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saying it's safe and airworthy."

341
00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,211
But they didn't want to hear it.

342
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,716
And after that, they moved me
about every four or six months

343
00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:24,092
just to mess with me.

344
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,636
And every time I'd move
and get put in a different area,

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I'd find some major issue.

346
00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:33,977
I just wanted to ask
your opinion, man.

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My in-laws are gonna fly on one of these.

348
00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:38,190
Do you think they're safe?

349
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They're just
your in-laws.

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Would you fly on one?

351
00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:48,533
No.

352
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I got a free vacation.

353
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:52,996
What's that?

354
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,165
You just have to fly on a 787.

355
00:22:55,665 --> 00:22:57,459
- Shit.
- What?

356
00:22:57,542 --> 00:23:00,170
No, we ain't going
on no vacation on a 787.

357
00:23:00,253 --> 00:23:02,714
You know what be going on on the 787?

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What happens?

359
00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:06,218
What don't happen?

360
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I wouldn't fly on one
of these planes. Because I see the quality

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of the fucking shit
going down around here.

362
00:23:17,312 --> 00:23:19,898
Charleston is the first plant
I've ever heard

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where the majority of the people
working on the plane will not fly on it.

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00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:29,741
If your own people do not have
enough confidence to fly on the product,

365
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:33,495
why are you letting it
go out the door to the flying public?

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00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:42,421
The Charleston plant, we thought,
it's a totally different culture

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than up here in Seattle.

368
00:23:47,342 --> 00:23:50,971
But in 2015, the alarm bells went off

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when I uncovered
that some corroded 787 landing gear axles

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that we had previously scrapped,
spray-painted red with the word "scrap,"

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wound up being used
back in the Dreamliner production line.

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These parts, they were basically rotted.

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And as I started to research it,
I found that scrap parts

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were put back on the airplane
for years and years.

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00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:31,636
We'll never know the scope of how many
of these parts made it to airplanes.

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00:24:35,432 --> 00:24:39,394
Boeing has delivered
over 1,200 Dreamliners.

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The fleet operates
across more than 85 countries

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with one billion passengers.

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And so we had
a corporate investigation launched.

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Not one manager was fired
or went to jail or got time off.

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It's like it was
just part of the business.

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00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,964
I don't know what it means
for the thousands of planes flying around.

383
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,468
At this point, it's anyone's guess.

384
00:25:17,724 --> 00:25:21,603
This new Boeing, the way they treat people
and their quality managers

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00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:23,730
is ruining the entire company.

386
00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:25,941
And that scares me.

387
00:25:26,816 --> 00:25:28,068
Scares me to death.

388
00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:31,780
John would come home worried.

389
00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:36,034
He said, "You know, I just can't believe
that they just don't understand."

390
00:25:36,117 --> 00:25:40,330
I could see later on
that it was starting to really get to him.

391
00:25:43,291 --> 00:25:46,670
I had to seriously think
about going to human resources,

392
00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:51,841
because at Boeing,
when you go to HR, now you're a target.

393
00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:56,638
I knew from past history
and other incidents

394
00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:59,724
that chances are
Boeing's gonna fire you on the spot.

395
00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:03,728
They're gonna confiscate your computer.
They're gonna confiscate your cell phone.

396
00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:06,022
They're gonna confiscate
all your documents.

397
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,817
So now you're a terminated employee

398
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,237
who gets blacklisted
from an entire industry.

399
00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:17,075
So I'm scared of what they're gonna do.

400
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:25,875
But putting the flying public in danger,
this is unacceptable.

401
00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,296
I decided I'm going to just fight them.

402
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,424
So I went to human resources.

403
00:26:32,507 --> 00:26:34,884
I told them they're violating procedures.

404
00:26:34,968 --> 00:26:37,387
HR said, "Yep, you're right."

405
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,348
They wouldn't do anything to correct it.

406
00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:43,018
So I filed an ethics complaint.

407
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,477
Nothing.

408
00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:48,565
I wrote a letter to the VP
of Corporate Ethics in Washington, D.C.

409
00:26:49,232 --> 00:26:50,859
Executives didn't do anything.

410
00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:54,237
I filed a complaint with OSHA.

411
00:26:54,988 --> 00:26:59,618
I went to FAA,
the Oversight Enforcement Organization,

412
00:27:00,327 --> 00:27:02,912
to get these issues taken care of.

413
00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:08,710
It's like, does anybody care?

414
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:15,216
Or is it gonna take an airplane
to go down before some people say,

415
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,636
"Wow, I guess we should have listened."

416
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:27,020
I remember waking up
on the Sunday morning.

417
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,440
I had the two kids next to me,
so I said, you know,

418
00:27:30,523 --> 00:27:32,942
it would be nice for him
to… to see a picture of the kids.

419
00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:37,697
So I took a little selfie shot
of… of the two kids

420
00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:41,409
saying, "Good morning, Daddy,"
and, you know, lots of emojis.

421
00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:48,750
I noticed that the message
hadn't delivered,

422
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:51,378
which I thought was a little bit unusual.

423
00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:54,881
But I put it down to maybe bad signal
in… in Addis Ababa.

424
00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:01,680
Mick was traveling, doing a lot of work
with the United Nations.

425
00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:06,351
He always had this desire to help people.

426
00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,441
A number of hours later,
I picked up my phone,

427
00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:16,194
and there was still no reply from him,

428
00:28:16,277 --> 00:28:18,780
but there was a load of missed calls
from… from a friend of mine.

429
00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:25,578
So I rang our friend, he said,
"Naoise, have you seen the news?"

430
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:27,372
"There's been a plane crash."

431
00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:30,709
And then he said,
"I think Mick is on the plane."

432
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879
And I said, "No. No."

433
00:28:41,928 --> 00:28:45,849
An Ethiopian Airlines flight
has crashed shortly after takeoff,

434
00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:50,812
killing all 157 passengers and crew
thought to be on board.

435
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:55,817
It's like time stood still.

436
00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:02,991
People don't just disappear
from your life.

437
00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:05,535
They're there one minute,
and then they're not.

438
00:29:07,328 --> 00:29:08,580
But that's what happened.

439
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:11,291
He wa… he was gone.

440
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:22,469
I suppose, being an engineer,
that's where my brain kicked in,

441
00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:25,180
and I started to research.

442
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,310
Boeing faces
a lot of safety questions this morning

443
00:29:30,393 --> 00:29:33,605
because this is
the second crash in just five months.

444
00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:39,527
The Lion Air flight
crashed off the coast of Indonesia

445
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:42,071
with almost 200 people on board.

446
00:29:46,326 --> 00:29:49,954
I learned this wasn't even
the first MAX crash.

447
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:56,669
Brand-new planes falling from the sky,
you know, twice.

448
00:29:56,753 --> 00:29:57,962
How could this be?

449
00:29:59,714 --> 00:30:01,341
I wanted answers.

450
00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:07,472
An emergency order
grounding all Boeing MAX 8s and 9s.

451
00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:11,684
The FAA grounded the planes
until their safe use has been confirmed.

452
00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,813
The focus in the two crashes
quickly zeroed in

453
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:16,981
on a new system called MCAS.

454
00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:20,527
Powerful MCAS software can
take over the plane's controls in flight.

455
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:22,654
That left pilots powerless.

456
00:30:24,531 --> 00:30:27,617
Boeing withheld
crucial information from the FAA,

457
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:30,745
its customers, and 737 MAX pilots.

458
00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:35,083
The FAA estimated
that 15 more MAX planes

459
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,585
would crash over the next few decades.

460
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:41,840
Boeing and its CEO knew
that the flawed system was a safety risk,

461
00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,510
yet they told the public
MAX was as safe as any airplane

462
00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:47,345
that has ever flown the skies.

463
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,807
The more I learned,
the more I realized

464
00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:53,184
that everything was so wrong

465
00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:55,353
and that we needed to push for justice.

466
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:05,405
My kids are aware
that their dad got on a plane,

467
00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:07,949
and the plane was made by bad guys.

468
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:13,371
My son asked me,
"Will we catch the bad guys?"

469
00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:17,166
And I said, "I don't know.
We'll have to wait and see."

470
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,386
After the 737 MAX crashes,

471
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,974
everyone in our factory
was in a state of shock.

472
00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,978
We take our work seriously,
especially the work quality,

473
00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:39,606
that we're signing off on a good product.

474
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,318
And I was devastated.

475
00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:44,277
Um…

476
00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:53,077
Can I get a sec? Sorry.

477
00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:07,884
Emotionally, it was a dark cloud,

478
00:32:07,967 --> 00:32:09,260
I think, for everybody.

479
00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:15,767
Because what are we doing?

480
00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:17,936
Why are we in this field?

481
00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:19,896
And why do we rush?

482
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:23,650
It impacts you.

483
00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:29,072
Every day we spend doing our work,
we're concerned for the flying public, so…

484
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:37,038
We were upset about the families,

485
00:32:37,121 --> 00:32:40,667
and especially watching them
with the big pictures of their loved ones.

486
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,877
That's hard for anybody,

487
00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:45,922
but a Boeing employee,
that was very hard to watch.

488
00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:50,218
My daughter was a humanitarian.

489
00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:54,055
She had decided
to dedicate her life to other people.

490
00:32:55,056 --> 00:32:57,684
It was actually her first day of work.

491
00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:02,230
Why did we have to wake up
to get a call

492
00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:06,067
that our two boys
were on a plane that crashed?

493
00:33:06,901 --> 00:33:09,862
Our daughter, Samya,
was headed to East Africa

494
00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,533
on her way to start her career
in public health.

495
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:21,541
What got me the angriest of all
was reading the Boeing lawyers

496
00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:26,254
saying that the families
don't deserve, uh, compensation

497
00:33:26,337 --> 00:33:29,173
for the pain and suffering
that their loved ones went through.

498
00:33:30,925 --> 00:33:33,261
They said it happened so fast,

499
00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:35,638
the victims didn't know what was going on.

500
00:33:38,307 --> 00:33:41,853
I think about
their last six minutes a lot.

501
00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:45,481
My wife and my mom-in-law
knew they were going to die.

502
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:50,737
They had to somehow comfort the children
during those final moments,

503
00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:53,322
knowing they were all their last.

504
00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:56,200
I wish I was there with them.

505
00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:02,707
It never leaves me that my family's flesh
is there in Ethiopia,

506
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:07,545
mixed with the soil, the jet fuel,
and pieces of the aircraft.

507
00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:20,475
In the months after the second crash,
Muilenburg is on the hot seat.

508
00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:24,604
Finally, in December of 2019,
Muilenburg is fired.

509
00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:31,402
But even though he had presided
over two devastating crashes,

510
00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:33,571
which had killed hundreds of people,

511
00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:37,492
he made about $120 million as CEO

512
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:42,371
and left with a retirement package
worth approximately $60 million.

513
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,084
He was immediately replaced

514
00:34:46,167 --> 00:34:49,087
by the chairman of the board,
Dave Calhoun.

515
00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:52,381
Calhoun was a seasoned executive.

516
00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,885
He'd been on the board
for ten years at this point.

517
00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:58,096
Boeing entering a new era.

518
00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:01,307
David Calhoun taking over as CEO.
It happens today.

519
00:35:01,390 --> 00:35:04,852
At the same time,
there were multiple investigations.

520
00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,106
The House was very aggressive.

521
00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:12,193
We shouldn't have to have tragedies
to change the rules

522
00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:14,028
if the rules need to be changed.

523
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,697
We shouldn't have to be here today.

524
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:20,910
And the DOJ pursued
a possible criminal case.

525
00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:26,207
Nobody knew what legal consequences
Boeing would face.

526
00:35:33,756 --> 00:35:37,385
It was two years into the investigations
of the MAX crashes,

527
00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:40,721
I was in my mother-in-law's house,

528
00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:43,224
and we were talking about Mick.

529
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:45,726
The news was on in the background.

530
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,728
We have
some breaking news on Boeing.

531
00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:49,564
Suddenly, Boeing is mentioned,

532
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,525
and you kind of stop in your tracks,
and you're listening to it.

533
00:35:52,608 --> 00:35:55,570
Boeing has entered
into a deferred prosecution agreement

534
00:35:55,653 --> 00:35:57,530
regarding the 737 MAX.

535
00:35:57,613 --> 00:36:00,575
And I'm… I'm like,
"What… what the hell? What… what's this?"

536
00:36:00,658 --> 00:36:03,244
You know,
"What's a deferred prosecution agreement?"

537
00:36:03,327 --> 00:36:07,206
This charge will be essentially dismissed
after three years

538
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,751
if Boeing meets all of the stipulations
in this agreement.

539
00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:15,590
This essentially ends
the criminal investigation, if you will,

540
00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:19,468
by the DOJ looking into what Boeing did.

541
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:24,182
And… and I went, no way, 346 lives lost.

542
00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:26,767
Brand-new planes falling from the sky.

543
00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,604
Somebody's got something wrong here.
This can't be true.

544
00:36:29,687 --> 00:36:31,480
Does that also end
any threats

545
00:36:31,564 --> 00:36:33,316
to individual executives at Boeing?

546
00:36:33,399 --> 00:36:34,859
Apparently.

547
00:36:34,942 --> 00:36:38,613
We'll get them to pay a fine.
We'll tell them that they're on probation.

548
00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:41,949
If after three years, you've been really,
really good, you get a clean slate.

549
00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:43,993
It's like it never happened.

550
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:47,747
The CEO should have been prosecuted.

551
00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:50,708
Instead, they wrote that senior management

552
00:36:50,791 --> 00:36:52,877
knew nothing about what was going on.

553
00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:55,922
There are
a couple of terms within there

554
00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:57,840
in terms of things
that Boeing has to meet.

555
00:36:57,924 --> 00:37:02,428
It is utter disbelief
that somebody could get away

556
00:37:02,511 --> 00:37:05,806
with killing 346 people.

557
00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,602
This, it hurts.

558
00:37:15,691 --> 00:37:18,486
We were upset
about the plea deal.

559
00:37:19,278 --> 00:37:22,114
It's not justice for these families.

560
00:37:24,367 --> 00:37:27,161
It wasn't nearly severe enough
for Boeing.

561
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,206
It's just checking the box
and… and moving on.

562
00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:35,169
The fine's nothing to Boeing.

563
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,965
If there's actually people
that are subject to jail time,

564
00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:40,716
that'll stop their practices.

565
00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:45,638
A lot of these
government agencies think, "Oh my gosh,

566
00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:48,015
you know, if we lead
one of them out in handcuffs,

567
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:51,102
the whole company…
the house of cards is gonna collapse."

568
00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:53,354
No, you lead them out in handcuffs,

569
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:55,481
that's gonna make people
start to think twice.

570
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,112
Until you hold people accountable,
they will not change.

571
00:38:07,493 --> 00:38:10,496
I had this feeling
like I needed to do something.

572
00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:15,626
And there was a number of families

573
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:19,046
that were prepared to stand up and fight.

574
00:38:19,547 --> 00:38:21,007
- Hi, hi.
- Hello.

575
00:38:22,883 --> 00:38:25,386
The only way
we could go after the CEOs

576
00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:28,639
was by proving
that Boeing violated the terms

577
00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:30,683
during their probationary period,

578
00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:35,563
that they had failed to improve
their safety standards.

579
00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:40,192
And we had three years to do that.

580
00:38:50,411 --> 00:38:53,164
Our families,
we meet every month online.

581
00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:58,127
We keep track of
what Boeing's safety failures have been.

582
00:38:58,210 --> 00:38:59,628
There are always more.

583
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:03,174
There's a reporting procedure
in America.

584
00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:05,426
Every time there's
a problem on an aircraft,

585
00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:08,179
this goes into the system,
and the public can view it.

586
00:39:09,388 --> 00:39:13,309
Yesterday there was a MAX
that declared an emergency in Rome

587
00:39:13,392 --> 00:39:16,562
and another one
that declared an emergency in India.

588
00:39:17,146 --> 00:39:18,981
We were looking for patterns,

589
00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:22,234
and there was a huge amount
with brand-new aircraft.

590
00:39:22,943 --> 00:39:25,446
Electrical problems,
the pressurization problem,

591
00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:29,408
52 bad stabilizer trim motors.
These are critical safety systems.

592
00:39:29,992 --> 00:39:32,495
Boeing's had
production issues with an aft bulkhead.

593
00:39:32,578 --> 00:39:34,789
Electrical problem
with the instrument panel.

594
00:39:34,872 --> 00:39:37,833
One of the right
engine fan blades was fractured.

595
00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:40,086
All of a sudden,
we hear this loud explosion.

596
00:39:40,169 --> 00:39:43,506
A hole ripped open mid-flight
in the roof of a Southwest Airlines--

597
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:47,468
The FAA has given us a bulletin
saying if you leave the engine anti-ice

598
00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:50,429
when you're in clear air
for five minutes or more,

599
00:39:50,513 --> 00:39:52,556
the engine could actually come undone.

600
00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:56,560
I'm flying with a Post-it note
to remind me,

601
00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,646
hey, turn that engine anti-ice off

602
00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:00,481
'cause I have no other alert
on the airplane.

603
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:07,988
And we realized that this wasn't just
a software problem with the MAX aircraft.

604
00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:11,784
There were
enormous manufacturing problems.

605
00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:17,331
We needed to find out what was happening
in the Boeing factories.

606
00:40:26,507 --> 00:40:28,926
John Barnett wanted nothing more

607
00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:32,638
than to see a quality product
go out the door.

608
00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:39,270
But it seemed like he was getting
pushback instead of support.

609
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:41,313
John raised up enough issues

610
00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:44,275
and raised enough flags
from inside the company

611
00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:47,278
that they eventually decided
to move him to somewhere

612
00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:50,322
where he couldn't have that effect
on the production system.

613
00:40:51,949 --> 00:40:55,953
Seeing what John went through,
it was upsetting.

614
00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:08,466
I had multiple managers
berating me.

615
00:41:09,758 --> 00:41:13,971
On my performance management review,
I was downgraded

616
00:41:14,054 --> 00:41:18,476
and my pay was docked
for putting quality concerns in writing.

617
00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,980
They said flat out they do not want
anything in documentation

618
00:41:23,063 --> 00:41:25,900
so they can maintain culpable deniability.

619
00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:28,569
That's exact words.

620
00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:34,909
Followed that up with what's called
a corrective action plan.

621
00:41:36,118 --> 00:41:38,204
And basically, you're about to get fired.

622
00:41:45,002 --> 00:41:49,256
The stress and the humiliation
and the hostility towards me,

623
00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:51,217
it just… it wore me down.

624
00:41:54,637 --> 00:42:00,643
To have 30 years in an industry
where you're looked at as a go-to guy,

625
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:04,980
and just the next day,
you're just the scum of the organization…

626
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:07,608
How do you process that?

627
00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:16,325
So I ended up taking a retirement.

628
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:31,799
But after I left,
I knew issues continued to exist.

629
00:42:33,425 --> 00:42:35,928
That weighs heavy on my heart.

630
00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:43,602
Maybe I should have went to the president
of Boeing instead of just the VP.

631
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:46,772
I mean, you know, you can't help
but think about those things.

632
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:48,983
You know,
what could I have done different?

633
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:55,489
And I'm sitting there, I'm thinking,
"What do I do now?"

634
00:42:57,032 --> 00:43:00,244
And it was a choice
of either "sit down, shut up"

635
00:43:00,327 --> 00:43:01,662
or go outside of Boeing.

636
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:10,379
We're talking airplanes,
we're talking people's lives,

637
00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:12,089
we're talking the flying public.

638
00:43:13,173 --> 00:43:15,593
I can't sit back and let that go.

639
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:25,144
And I wasn't gonna sit down, shut up.

640
00:43:27,354 --> 00:43:29,940
John Barnett says
he spent 32 years with Boeing,

641
00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:32,151
and he's blowing the whistle
on where he works.

642
00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:35,738
It's just all been about schedule
and hurry up and just get it done,

643
00:43:35,821 --> 00:43:37,781
push the planes out,
we're behind schedule.

644
00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:40,951
I know what's under the skin,
and it's scary.

645
00:43:42,786 --> 00:43:45,497
I just think it's critically important

646
00:43:45,581 --> 00:43:49,084
that the activities going on within Boeing

647
00:43:49,168 --> 00:43:52,338
are made aware to the people
whose lives could be affected.

648
00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:55,215
You know, I mean, look at the 737 MAX.

649
00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:59,470
Those lives and those families.

650
00:44:01,597 --> 00:44:03,140
That's why I keep telling my story.

651
00:44:03,223 --> 00:44:05,643
Somebody's got to step in
and get it addressed.

652
00:44:09,938 --> 00:44:11,940
As we continued to research,

653
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:16,487
we became aware that
there was a small group of workers

654
00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:20,658
that had come forward to say
that there were manufacturing problems

655
00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:22,451
at the Boeing factory,

656
00:44:22,534 --> 00:44:24,161
that there was total chaos.

657
00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:27,164
And some of them
have reached out to us personally.

658
00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:34,213
We've had the honor of working
with many of you for several years now.

659
00:44:34,296 --> 00:44:35,339
And there's been a lot of…

660
00:44:35,422 --> 00:44:38,717
We started to be in contact a lot
with whistleblowers.

661
00:44:39,301 --> 00:44:41,637
We had kind of formed a group
at this stage.

662
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:47,935
There was a number of meetings with them,
some in person, then some online.

663
00:44:50,145 --> 00:44:52,898
We couldn't just sit back and do nothing.

664
00:44:52,981 --> 00:44:56,652
Because as families, we need to feel
that our loved ones mattered.

665
00:44:58,028 --> 00:45:01,907
But also because real justice
and accountability

666
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:05,077
can prevent something from happening
in the future.

667
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:12,084
How long do you think
we're gonna be there again?

668
00:45:12,167 --> 00:45:13,293
-In the meeting?
-Yeah.

669
00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:15,003
Oh, another three, four hours.

670
00:45:17,464 --> 00:45:21,093
And then we started having
these meetings with the FAA.

671
00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,805
The FAA is
the Federal Aviation Administration.

672
00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:26,807
Their job is to make sure

673
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:30,394
there's the safe design
and manufacture of aircraft.

674
00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:34,189
It has a large part of its duty
to monitor and inspect Boeing.

675
00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:39,945
This deferred
prosecution agreement was going to expire

676
00:45:40,028 --> 00:45:41,822
in about two years.

677
00:45:41,905 --> 00:45:46,493
So every week we informed the FAA that
there was still an awful lot of problems.

678
00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:50,873
We're seeing continuing problems
with brand-new aircraft

679
00:45:50,956 --> 00:45:52,958
that you're not seeing
with older aircraft.

680
00:45:53,041 --> 00:45:55,544
It's just lunacy that it's not fixed.

681
00:45:57,129 --> 00:45:59,339
And what they said
at the time was,

682
00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:01,175
"You don't need to worry about it."

683
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,763
"Boeing have changed their ways,
and they're a fantastic company now."

684
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,561
We're gonna share all issues
so that when things do go a little wrong,

685
00:46:12,644 --> 00:46:16,482
we can get ahead of them with
all of our employees and with the public.

686
00:46:20,194 --> 00:46:24,114
Many people had hopes that
Calhoun would turn the company around.

687
00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:26,408
CEO of Boeing, he mentioned the guidance…

688
00:46:26,492 --> 00:46:28,243
We need somebody
to make a change.

689
00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:31,121
Hopefully, he's the person that will make
the change within our company.

690
00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:36,210
Dave Calhoun committed
to cleaning up processes.

691
00:46:36,835 --> 00:46:38,837
It reorganized
its engineering organization.

692
00:46:38,921 --> 00:46:40,589
It created a chief safety officer.

693
00:46:40,672 --> 00:46:43,050
All these different tactical positions

694
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:46,637
that allowed them to… to make sure
that this doesn't happen again.

695
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,891
They started to create
some kind of system

696
00:46:50,974 --> 00:46:53,560
where leadership listened
to what was going on on the floor.

697
00:46:54,144 --> 00:46:57,064
Welcome
to the Boeing Company's conference call.

698
00:46:57,147 --> 00:47:00,067
We will encourage
and reward employees for speaking up

699
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:03,028
to slow things down
if that's what's needed.

700
00:47:04,863 --> 00:47:09,535
The Speak Up program
was going to make it easy for employees

701
00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:13,539
to identify ethical problems,
bad behaviors,

702
00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:17,209
and safety concerns to get quicker action.

703
00:47:17,292 --> 00:47:19,711
Transparency is what we lost for a moment,

704
00:47:19,795 --> 00:47:21,255
and it's something we have to regain

705
00:47:21,338 --> 00:47:24,675
because it speaks to the trust
that the world has in us.

706
00:47:29,179 --> 00:47:33,809
Breaking news.
Boeing's 737 MAX is allowed to fly again.

707
00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:36,478
The FAA just lifted the grounding
this morning.

708
00:47:36,562 --> 00:47:39,648
The company has worked
to update the software, computers,

709
00:47:39,731 --> 00:47:41,692
and pilot training for the MAX.

710
00:47:41,775 --> 00:47:44,361
You are flying on a Boeing 737 MAX.

711
00:47:44,444 --> 00:47:46,363
In this
American Airlines cabin,

712
00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:50,325
applause for a new chapter
in 737 MAX safety

713
00:47:50,409 --> 00:47:53,871
as the first domestic departure
roared off the runway.

714
00:47:53,954 --> 00:47:56,957
I'm very proud of our team,
and I'm very proud of that airplane.

715
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,585
It is a, uh, remarkable, uh, machine,

716
00:47:59,668 --> 00:48:01,920
and… and as safe as anything…
anything in the air.

717
00:48:04,256 --> 00:48:09,469
After the planes were ungrounded,
I was convinced that the MAX was safe.

718
00:48:10,095 --> 00:48:11,555
It was safe to fly.

719
00:48:13,473 --> 00:48:15,726
Big boost for Boeing
and its 737 MAX.

720
00:48:15,809 --> 00:48:19,354
A multi-billion dollar order
for Southwest Airlines.

721
00:48:19,438 --> 00:48:22,024
Ryanair ordered 75 MAXs.

722
00:48:22,107 --> 00:48:24,610
Looking to increase
production of the 737 MAX.

723
00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:28,030
The rent and flight line
tonight is very busy.

724
00:48:28,113 --> 00:48:30,198
Ryanair's CEO says the MAX

725
00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:34,286
is now the safest plane
in aviation history.

726
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,877
Once the MAX was back in the air,
the whole atmosphere changed.

727
00:48:43,837 --> 00:48:46,173
Boeing went back
to business as usual.

728
00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:47,549
It's time to make money again.

729
00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:49,885
Let's push these airplanes out
and make that money.

730
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:53,013
Work exploded.

731
00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:56,141
I was now responsible for, like,
ten times the amount of airplanes

732
00:48:56,224 --> 00:48:57,517
I'm usually responsible for.

733
00:48:58,644 --> 00:49:01,855
It was a schedule-driven,
chaotic rush again.

734
00:49:02,564 --> 00:49:05,192
We were having a lot of problems.

735
00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:10,322
We had counted about 50,000 parts
that bypassed quality

736
00:49:10,405 --> 00:49:12,366
that had escaped to the airplane.

737
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:15,452
A lot of flight-critical parts too.

738
00:49:17,204 --> 00:49:19,873
So I reported this
through the Speak Up program.

739
00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:24,753
There are so many
of my nonconformance records still open.

740
00:49:24,836 --> 00:49:27,381
And that's usually because
the part has gone missing.

741
00:49:27,464 --> 00:49:30,759
Head of our material review board
came up with the decision

742
00:49:30,842 --> 00:49:33,261
to go ahead and delete
those nonconformance records.

743
00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:37,057
That was a criminal activity.

744
00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:40,018
So the first thing I did was
I went through the Speak Up system.

745
00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:46,483
We're seeing a lot of defects
in these joint areas

746
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:49,236
where the parts are coming together.

747
00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,906
I brought that up in a Speak Up.

748
00:49:53,699 --> 00:49:58,245
But I don't think a whistleblower
calls Speak Up more than once.

749
00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:04,459
Because when we did,
we were immediately retaliated against.

750
00:50:11,633 --> 00:50:16,221
My boss came to my desk
and chewed me out, and he said,

751
00:50:16,304 --> 00:50:18,932
"I would have killed
someone who said what you said."

752
00:50:20,767 --> 00:50:21,810
What did I say?

753
00:50:21,893 --> 00:50:25,772
I said, we need to consider
engineering fundamentals.

754
00:50:27,399 --> 00:50:29,943
They were trying to work me
through a corrective action,

755
00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,904
saying that I wasn't listening
to leadership doing my job.

756
00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:36,241
The ethics advisor called me

757
00:50:36,908 --> 00:50:39,661
and said, "Merle, yeah,
you're going to be singled out

758
00:50:39,745 --> 00:50:41,455
and made an example of."

759
00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:47,627
My senior manager said,
"Here's 12 things that you're doing wrong,

760
00:50:47,711 --> 00:50:50,255
and you have to correct these
in 30 days, or I'll fire you."

761
00:50:54,092 --> 00:50:57,971
"I started keeping documentation
about safety concerns."

762
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:05,437
I was thinking,
"I don't want to call the press."

763
00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,733
Because we've seen with whistleblowing,

764
00:51:09,816 --> 00:51:12,694
you lose your job,
you lose your community.

765
00:51:14,654 --> 00:51:17,699
I was whistleblowing internally
for a couple years,

766
00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:19,951
but I never wanted to go public.

767
00:51:21,161 --> 00:51:23,455
Because I'm just, at the end of the day,
an employee.

768
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:25,457
I would have been crucified.

769
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:32,756
A lot of my coworkers
were really scared to come forward,

770
00:51:32,839 --> 00:51:34,091
even within the company.

771
00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:41,473
But when I see a problematic area
that could cause loss of life,

772
00:51:41,556 --> 00:51:44,267
I'm gonna speak up until my face is blue.

773
00:51:45,435 --> 00:51:47,479
So I kept on following it.

774
00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:52,818
And they finally just kicked me
out of the Dreamliner program.

775
00:51:56,404 --> 00:51:58,949
Then my tire was slashed.

776
00:51:59,991 --> 00:52:04,913
I didn't know who did it,
but I think that was a warning call.

777
00:52:05,539 --> 00:52:08,834
Things are a little more serious
than what you want to be.

778
00:52:12,379 --> 00:52:14,047
It threw me off.

779
00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:19,928
I was waking up with, uh, nightmares
three o'clock every morning.

780
00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:25,183
And I was talking to three different
psychologists at the time,

781
00:52:26,059 --> 00:52:28,603
to just be able to cope with it.

782
00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:41,158
There's a lot of lives at stake.

783
00:52:44,077 --> 00:52:48,081
I would have nightmares of airplanes
crashing very close to me.

784
00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:53,461
I've had airplanes crash so close to me,
I can feel the heat from them in my sleep.

785
00:52:56,673 --> 00:52:58,091
That keeps me up at night.

786
00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:01,094
I hope there's
not another MAX airplane loss,

787
00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:02,929
but it does keep me up at night.

788
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:11,938
Just losing battle after battle,
and betrayed over and over again.

789
00:53:12,814 --> 00:53:14,858
It just is gonna weigh you down.

790
00:53:16,776 --> 00:53:18,111
I felt helpless.

791
00:53:21,656 --> 00:53:23,867
The workers
would be more than happy

792
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:25,952
to speak out to the public,

793
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:29,456
but they're in fear of losing their jobs.

794
00:53:30,415 --> 00:53:33,627
They have years to work.

795
00:53:34,169 --> 00:53:37,964
They can't afford to be fired
from their positions.

796
00:53:39,299 --> 00:53:42,886
There's definitely a culture of fear.

797
00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:57,234
After John left Boeing,
he kept seeing all these problems,

798
00:53:57,317 --> 00:53:58,568
and it really weighed on him.

799
00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:02,030
So we filed the case.

800
00:54:02,948 --> 00:54:06,576
John Barnett's case against Boeing
involved exposure

801
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:08,328
to a hostile work environment,

802
00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:13,458
with allegations of retaliation
by Boeing against him.

803
00:54:14,376 --> 00:54:15,961
He had been gaslighted

804
00:54:16,044 --> 00:54:19,589
for years and years and years and years
when he was there.

805
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,592
Mr. Barnett, you testified that,
what did he say,

806
00:54:22,676 --> 00:54:24,761
something about he was gonna break you?

807
00:54:24,844 --> 00:54:27,180
- He was gonna push me until I broke.
- Okay.

808
00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:29,474
Was… Was he joking when he said that?

809
00:54:29,557 --> 00:54:30,767
Oh, absolutely not.

810
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:33,478
We filed a complaint,

811
00:54:33,561 --> 00:54:37,607
and we had to compel Boeing
to produce documents.

812
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,820
It took forever
to get responses from Boeing.

813
00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:47,617
Whistleblower cases
are very complicated cases.

814
00:54:48,576 --> 00:54:53,623
Oftentimes, when whistleblowers
go public, when they're terminated,

815
00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:58,586
the employer takes possession
of their laptops or their phones.

816
00:54:59,587 --> 00:55:01,923
That means they have no evidence
to back up.

817
00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:03,550
It's just he said, she said.

818
00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:10,557
What really set
John's situation apart from others

819
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,310
is that John had actually
documented everything.

820
00:55:15,437 --> 00:55:18,148
And he said that someday in the future,

821
00:55:18,231 --> 00:55:20,567
there was gonna be
a reckoning with Boeing,

822
00:55:20,650 --> 00:55:24,321
and he was gonna have the proof
to demonstrate where they failed.

823
00:55:25,196 --> 00:55:28,783
Let's talk about
the oxygen investigation.

824
00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:35,123
Around July 2016, there was an issue
with defective oxygen canisters.

825
00:55:35,206 --> 00:55:36,708
-Is that correct?
-Right.

826
00:55:38,126 --> 00:55:42,088
You discovered
that some of the oxygen squibs

827
00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:44,466
were not properly dispensing oxygen.

828
00:55:45,383 --> 00:55:48,094
We had about 15%
that didn't initiate.

829
00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:52,515
You had just performed
kind of informal tests

830
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,769
and had come up
with this 15% failure rate, correct?

831
00:55:56,353 --> 00:55:59,397
No, it really wasn't an informal test.

832
00:56:00,774 --> 00:56:03,735
- I said, "We need to take a closer look."
- Mm-hmm.

833
00:56:03,818 --> 00:56:06,446
So I actually pulled
fresh squibs out of stores,

834
00:56:06,529 --> 00:56:08,865
still in the packages,

835
00:56:08,948 --> 00:56:11,201
and we sent that control group.

836
00:56:13,745 --> 00:56:16,164
The failure rate actually went up to 25%.

837
00:56:16,247 --> 00:56:17,624
That set off all kinds of alarms,

838
00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:19,626
and I was like, "Okay,
this is a serious issue."

839
00:56:21,503 --> 00:56:25,298
Say you're flying at 40,000 feet,
and for some reason,

840
00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:28,551
you have a massive decompression,
and the oxygen masks drop.

841
00:56:31,638 --> 00:56:34,265
You have 20 seconds to get your mask on

842
00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,684
before it starts getting into
lack of oxygen,

843
00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:40,563
and it'll actually create brain damage
and, in some cases, even death.

844
00:56:42,023 --> 00:56:44,192
Imagine you're not getting oxygen.

845
00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:48,196
Say you're sitting there with your kids.

846
00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:50,115
Who gets the oxygen? Who don't?

847
00:56:56,538 --> 00:56:59,082
During the course
of you documenting

848
00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:01,042
the issue with the oxygen squibs,

849
00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:04,629
no one criticized you
for documenting that issue, correct?

850
00:57:04,712 --> 00:57:06,673
Actually, we do have an email.

851
00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:08,800
Pretty nasty.

852
00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:12,595
He's like, just stop the madness.

853
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:14,055
That's the kind of attitude he had.

854
00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:17,642
Mm-hmm. We didn't see that
in any of the emails we just looked at.

855
00:57:17,725 --> 00:57:20,478
- Not these, but you have my copies, yes.
- Okay. Okay.

856
00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:26,484
John used to say
that it takes 8, 10, 12 years

857
00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:28,528
for those defects to manifest.

858
00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:31,739
So he was really concerned
about these problems,

859
00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:35,368
that they would manifest
down the road and cause a disaster.

860
00:57:42,584 --> 00:57:46,296
The three-year probation
from the Department of Justice

861
00:57:46,379 --> 00:57:48,256
was going to expire in a month.

862
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,050
That was kind of a mental process,

863
00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:54,345
a psychological process
we were all going through.

864
00:57:56,681 --> 00:58:00,101
The meetings had gone on
for months and months.

865
00:58:01,936 --> 00:58:06,900
I even flew to Washington to sit down
with the Department of Justice

866
00:58:07,525 --> 00:58:11,112
to explain our concerns
that nothing had changed

867
00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:14,866
in the Boeing culture
and in the Boeing factories.

868
00:58:16,534 --> 00:58:20,038
We sat down with
the head of the fraud section, Glenn Leon.

869
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,625
Then he started to read from a script.

870
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:28,004
And if we said, "Hang on a sec,
what about what we have to say?"

871
00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:30,256
he might huff and puff a bit.

872
00:58:30,882 --> 00:58:33,468
And then he carried on
as though we hadn't said anything.

873
00:58:35,011 --> 00:58:37,931
It very much seemed
like the Department of Justice

874
00:58:38,014 --> 00:58:40,350
was trying to protect Boeing.

875
00:58:44,145 --> 00:58:47,357
We go to these courtrooms,
and the DOJ and the Boeing lawyers

876
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,527
are on one side of the courtroom
talking to each other,

877
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,070
and we're on the other side.

878
00:58:52,153 --> 00:58:53,738
It's like we're the criminals.

879
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:58,117
When you see
the number of lawyers that have passed

880
00:58:58,201 --> 00:59:00,328
from Boeing into the Department of Justice

881
00:59:00,411 --> 00:59:04,082
and from the Department of Justice
into the Boeing law firm,

882
00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:07,168
it is complete political entanglement.

883
00:59:12,048 --> 00:59:15,760
Now the deferred prosecution agreement
was about to expire.

884
00:59:17,512 --> 00:59:19,722
There was no hope. There was no justice.

885
00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:21,683
There was never
going to be accountability.

886
00:59:21,766 --> 00:59:23,017
Forget it. Go home.

887
00:59:25,353 --> 00:59:29,941
It doesn't seem that the DOJ is
interested in getting the criminals out.

888
00:59:30,024 --> 00:59:35,196
They're interested in getting this case
behind them any way they can.

889
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,658
And they're gonna allow the criminals
to stay in and do what.

890
00:59:38,741 --> 00:59:41,494
And a lesson will never be learned
by anybody.

891
00:59:41,578 --> 00:59:42,870
Right now, we are showing

892
00:59:42,954 --> 00:59:47,667
that there are countless issues
with production quality matters.

893
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:49,586
When is the next crash gonna be?

894
00:59:49,669 --> 00:59:51,296
I hope it doesn't happen.

895
00:59:51,379 --> 00:59:53,631
But this is what we're dealing with.

896
01:00:07,562 --> 01:00:11,232
Ground, Alaska 1282,
push up Charlie 7 North Yankee.

897
01:00:11,316 --> 01:00:13,860
Pushback's approved, 2-8 Left.

898
01:00:14,694 --> 01:00:19,490
It was a typical start-up,
taxi, takeoff.

899
01:00:20,742 --> 01:00:23,828
Alaska 1282.
Runway 2-8 Left. Cleared to take off.

900
01:00:24,579 --> 01:00:26,372
Good day, Alaska 1282.

901
01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:31,210
My daughter pulled out
all sorts of sketching materials

902
01:00:31,294 --> 01:00:33,046
as the flight took off.

903
01:00:34,714 --> 01:00:36,966
My son
was sitting on my lap.

904
01:00:37,050 --> 01:00:39,218
My 3-year-old was in the middle.

905
01:00:39,302 --> 01:00:41,596
And then my 5-year-old
was in the window seat.

906
01:00:44,974 --> 01:00:46,643
We're climbing.

907
01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:48,311
I remember looking over

908
01:00:48,394 --> 01:00:50,938
and just kind of wanting to see
how my family was doing.

909
01:00:51,731 --> 01:00:54,942
Seattle, Alaska 1282,
11,000 climbing 15,000.

910
01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:57,028
Alaska 1282,
Seattle Center,

911
01:00:57,111 --> 01:00:59,030
climb and maintain level of 2-3-0.

912
01:01:02,992 --> 01:01:08,748
There was a high-pitched
whistling sound and then a boom.

913
01:01:11,626 --> 01:01:13,336
1282, we are declaring
an emergency.

914
01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:15,588
We are descending down to 10,000--

915
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,260
Almost instantly,
oxygen masks dropped,

916
01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:23,971
and I realized
there was something really wrong.

917
01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:25,431
We're about to go down.

918
01:01:26,516 --> 01:01:31,729
I immediately am disoriented
but quickly turn my head, and I see…

919
01:01:34,857 --> 01:01:36,067
…open sky.

920
01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:39,862
I was just absolutely in shock.

921
01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:45,118
I stuck my 1-year-old's legs
in between my legs,

922
01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:46,411
and I pinned him down.

923
01:01:47,495 --> 01:01:49,414
He was screaming the whole time.

924
01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:55,169
When I got the mask on,
there was no airflow.

925
01:01:57,088 --> 01:01:59,340
Tried to breathe again.
There was no oxygen.

926
01:02:07,348 --> 01:02:09,559
And I was looking over
at my daughter,

927
01:02:09,642 --> 01:02:11,602
seeing her hair being pulled back.

928
01:02:12,395 --> 01:02:14,981
She was two rows in front of that opening.

929
01:02:18,192 --> 01:02:21,154
We thought that the next panel
was going to fail

930
01:02:21,779 --> 01:02:24,532
and that we were not gonna make it out
of that flight alive.

931
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:30,580
The oxygen had depleted.

932
01:02:30,663 --> 01:02:32,540
We started getting
that dizzy feeling again,

933
01:02:32,623 --> 01:02:34,333
and my vision started clouding.

934
01:02:36,043 --> 01:02:39,297
Both my daughters
were looking at me just afraid.

935
01:02:40,256 --> 01:02:43,384
I hadn't told them it was going to be okay
because I didn't know.

936
01:02:46,137 --> 01:02:49,932
I was assuming
that I had minutes with my family.

937
01:02:50,683 --> 01:02:53,561
So I'm reaching over,
and I put my hand on my wife's back.

938
01:02:54,896 --> 01:02:57,940
And I just begin to pray.

939
01:03:00,943 --> 01:03:06,240
I send a text to my son
to say goodbye.

940
01:03:06,324 --> 01:03:10,953
Let him know he's been the best thing
that's ever happened to me.

941
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:28,137
I looked out the window,
and the plane dipped under the clouds.

942
01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:31,098
And we could breathe again.

943
01:03:34,477 --> 01:03:37,271
I was able to look at my kids and say,
"It's gonna be okay."

944
01:03:51,577 --> 01:03:53,329
We begin with breaking news.

945
01:03:53,955 --> 01:03:55,998
That breaking news
is out of Oregon.

946
01:03:56,082 --> 01:03:57,375
And take a look at this.

947
01:03:57,458 --> 01:04:00,670
Video from inside an airliner
still in the air

948
01:04:00,753 --> 01:04:05,633
after a large section of its fuselage
blew out during the flight.

949
01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:09,470
When the Alaska incident occurred,

950
01:04:09,554 --> 01:04:11,848
I was just gathering information
like everyone else.

951
01:04:11,931 --> 01:04:13,224
I didn't know what had happened.

952
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,978
I was in my kitchen
and my phone blew up.

953
01:04:17,061 --> 01:04:20,064
I knew something was very, very wrong.

954
01:04:20,147 --> 01:04:23,276
National Transportation
Safety Board are investigating this.

955
01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:26,445
At cruise altitude,
we could have lost the aircraft.

956
01:04:26,529 --> 01:04:30,324
The plane is a Boeing 737 MAX
that had just been certified.

957
01:04:31,158 --> 01:04:33,536
What blew off
was what's called a door plug.

958
01:04:33,619 --> 01:04:34,787
It's not an actual door,

959
01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:38,791
but there is an opening there that
some airlines put an extra door in.

960
01:04:39,333 --> 01:04:42,003
I called
a close contact at Boeing and told them,

961
01:04:42,086 --> 01:04:44,297
"This is the kind of stuff
that grounds airplanes."

962
01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:48,843
The FAA grounded
all 737 MAX 9s in the U.S.

963
01:04:48,926 --> 01:04:51,220
Saying what happened
is likely to exist

964
01:04:51,304 --> 01:04:53,347
or develop in other planes.

965
01:04:53,431 --> 01:04:56,017
Boeing denied liability,
saying its products were,

966
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:58,519
quote, "improperly maintained, or misused

967
01:04:58,603 --> 01:05:01,772
by persons and/or entities
other than Boeing."

968
01:05:01,856 --> 01:05:05,109
Our job is to understand
literally everything that has happened.

969
01:05:05,776 --> 01:05:09,280
Boeing has not provided us
with the documents

970
01:05:09,363 --> 01:05:13,284
and information that we have requested
numerous times over the past few months.

971
01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:15,202
They talk about transparency,

972
01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:16,871
but certainly, at least so far,

973
01:05:16,954 --> 01:05:19,999
they're not being transparent about
exactly what happened with that plug.

974
01:05:22,877 --> 01:05:25,504
I was not surprised
by the door plug incident.

975
01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:27,924
I've been fighting for a couple years,

976
01:05:28,007 --> 01:05:29,926
knowing that something like that
was gonna happen.

977
01:05:32,637 --> 01:05:34,889
I was just relieved that nobody died.

978
01:05:36,891 --> 01:05:40,645
It was a nightmare
just having that kind of failure.

979
01:05:42,855 --> 01:05:48,194
I said to myself, "This is what happens
if you don't hold people accountable."

980
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:53,115
When the door blowout happened
and I saw that on the news,

981
01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:57,828
I predicted exactly what they were
gonna find during their investigation.

982
01:06:03,125 --> 01:06:05,962
This panel blowing off
the plane incident

983
01:06:06,045 --> 01:06:09,382
was traced back to a quality lapse
inside the factory.

984
01:06:11,092 --> 01:06:13,886
In 2023,
an airplane is coming down the line

985
01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:17,223
at Boeing's 737 plant near Seattle.

986
01:06:17,306 --> 01:06:20,685
And it's the airplane
that became Alaska 1282.

987
01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:23,562
There's chaos elsewhere in the factory

988
01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:27,525
as Boeing is trying to keep up
with its own increased production

989
01:06:27,608 --> 01:06:29,527
and dealing with outsourcing.

990
01:06:31,278 --> 01:06:33,781
The investigation discovered

991
01:06:33,864 --> 01:06:37,952
that the door team at Boeing
had taken off the door plug

992
01:06:38,035 --> 01:06:42,123
in order to fix things
that suppliers didn't get right.

993
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,043
To do so, they would have had to remove
four retaining bolts.

994
01:06:48,254 --> 01:06:50,840
And there was one photo
in their preliminary report

995
01:06:50,923 --> 01:06:52,383
that was very telling.

996
01:06:54,635 --> 01:06:59,765
You could actually see three
of the four corners of the door plug.

997
01:06:59,849 --> 01:07:05,271
And the retaining bolts that were needed
to secure it in place weren't there.

998
01:07:07,231 --> 01:07:08,816
They were never put back.

999
01:07:11,402 --> 01:07:15,239
Afterwards, that plane flew 154 flights.

1000
01:07:15,322 --> 01:07:18,117
And each time it landed or took off,

1001
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,954
the vibrations shifted the door plug
a little tiny bit

1002
01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:27,960
until, eventually,
on January 5th of 2024, it blew out.

1003
01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:32,298
To date, we have still found
no paperwork documenting

1004
01:07:32,381 --> 01:07:36,177
the removal of 8789's left-hand MED plug.

1005
01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:37,303
That is correct.

1006
01:07:37,386 --> 01:07:40,306
Whoever did the work never recorded it.

1007
01:07:40,389 --> 01:07:41,640
Why not?

1008
01:07:41,724 --> 01:07:44,477
Probably because
somebody wanted it done quickly.

1009
01:07:45,686 --> 01:07:48,939
There was a whole system here
that was inadequate.

1010
01:07:51,025 --> 01:07:54,612
This was a close call, too close.

1011
01:07:54,695 --> 01:07:57,281
On Capitol Hill today,
the FAA chief said

1012
01:07:57,364 --> 01:08:00,242
Boeing quality control had clearly failed.

1013
01:08:00,326 --> 01:08:03,287
If you don't have that safety culture,
it's hard to make safe airplanes.

1014
01:08:05,289 --> 01:08:08,918
Everything that
we had been saying,

1015
01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:10,836
that Boeing's culture was broken

1016
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,507
and that these defective planes
are continuing to fly,

1017
01:08:15,257 --> 01:08:17,343
had just been proved correct.

1018
01:08:19,762 --> 01:08:21,514
That happened two days before

1019
01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:24,767
this deferred prosecution agreement
was about to expire.

1020
01:08:26,227 --> 01:08:27,812
In a way, it's a miracle

1021
01:08:27,895 --> 01:08:30,231
because not only was no one killed,

1022
01:08:30,856 --> 01:08:35,361
now how could they say Boeing have been
good during their probationary period?

1023
01:08:35,444 --> 01:08:36,445
They couldn't.

1024
01:08:37,446 --> 01:08:41,867
The Justice Department
announced Boeing violated a 2021 agreement

1025
01:08:41,951 --> 01:08:44,370
that protected the company
from any charges.

1026
01:08:44,453 --> 01:08:45,788
Boeing has responded.

1027
01:08:45,871 --> 01:08:48,290
"We believe that we have honored
the terms of that agreement."

1028
01:08:48,374 --> 01:08:49,500
The question now, though,

1029
01:08:49,583 --> 01:08:52,336
what does a potential punishment
even look like for Boeing?

1030
01:08:52,419 --> 01:08:54,421
Nobody seems to know just yet.

1031
01:08:55,422 --> 01:08:56,757
It opened up everything again.

1032
01:08:58,342 --> 01:09:02,471
The investigation by the DOJ
and criminal prosecution.

1033
01:09:03,597 --> 01:09:05,307
Everything was back on the table.

1034
01:09:10,604 --> 01:09:14,150
In the days leading up
to you leaving Boeing,

1035
01:09:14,233 --> 01:09:19,780
did you talk to anyone about the stress
that you were experiencing at work?

1036
01:09:19,864 --> 01:09:21,157
I talked to my doctors.

1037
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,992
What did your doctor say?

1038
01:09:23,075 --> 01:09:26,453
She said I was gonna have
a heart attack and die,

1039
01:09:26,537 --> 01:09:29,665
or I could have a heart attack and die
in that environment, yes.

1040
01:09:29,748 --> 01:09:31,750
She said,
during this appointment,

1041
01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,211
you could have a heart attack and die
if you don't leave work.

1042
01:09:34,295 --> 01:09:35,212
That's your testimony?

1043
01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:37,673
If I don't get out
of that environment, yes.

1044
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:49,560
Can we take a few minutes?

1045
01:09:52,605 --> 01:09:56,901
Boeing's counsel took
his deposition for a full seven hours.

1046
01:09:57,776 --> 01:09:59,778
John was really tired.

1047
01:09:59,862 --> 01:10:05,784
He said that he would like to go back home
and resume his deposition at a later date.

1048
01:10:07,328 --> 01:10:10,164
Boeing objected to John's request.

1049
01:10:11,957 --> 01:10:12,917
By this stage,

1050
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,755
John didn't want to do anything that
was going to cause a delay in the trial,

1051
01:10:17,838 --> 01:10:22,635
and that he will just come back
the next morning and we'd finish it up.

1052
01:10:24,303 --> 01:10:26,513
And he went back to his hotel.

1053
01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:34,355
The morning of Saturday, March 9th,

1054
01:10:35,356 --> 01:10:37,483
it was storming outside.

1055
01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:40,402
A lot of thunder, lightning,
and really heavy rain.

1056
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:45,032
By ten o'clock,
we hadn't heard anything from John.

1057
01:10:46,575 --> 01:10:50,162
So when the rain slowed down,
we all drove there.

1058
01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:03,467
Our hopes
as we drove to the hotel

1059
01:11:03,550 --> 01:11:07,179
was that we were gonna just find John
having a medical situation

1060
01:11:07,721 --> 01:11:09,390
but that he was gonna be okay.

1061
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,983
I was thinking he maybe had
a really severe panic attack

1062
01:11:19,066 --> 01:11:20,567
or something like that.

1063
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,445
But when we went inside the hotel,

1064
01:11:24,154 --> 01:11:26,198
the manager took us in the back,

1065
01:11:26,282 --> 01:11:29,535
and the first thing she said to us was,
"I'm sorry for your loss."

1066
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:35,416
It was really surprising and overwhelming
and just a lot of emotion

1067
01:11:36,083 --> 01:11:39,920
when we're learning
that they had found John in his truck

1068
01:11:40,838 --> 01:11:42,715
with a gunshot wound to the head.

1069
01:11:45,175 --> 01:11:49,346
The police detective believed
it was most likely, uh, suicide.

1070
01:11:51,265 --> 01:11:53,225
We had a lot of questions,

1071
01:11:53,976 --> 01:12:00,024
and we wanted to make sure that the police
did a full, complete investigation.

1072
01:12:01,817 --> 01:12:04,737
We wanted to see
his cell phone content.

1073
01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:09,908
Any witnesses that they interviewed,
I'd like to see those witness statements.

1074
01:12:11,327 --> 01:12:13,787
And did they fingerprint
the outside of his truck?

1075
01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:20,127
A former employee
of the U.S. plane maker Boeing,

1076
01:12:20,210 --> 01:12:22,504
who turned whistleblower,
has been found dead.

1077
01:12:28,218 --> 01:12:31,096
I talked to him
on the Monday before.

1078
01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:35,142
I asked him, I said,
"When are you coming home?"

1079
01:12:36,018 --> 01:12:40,189
He said, "They put my meeting off,
and so I have to stay here."

1080
01:12:40,272 --> 01:12:42,399
"I'll be so glad to get home."

1081
01:12:42,983 --> 01:12:45,652
He said, "I just want to get in my bed."

1082
01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:51,950
And we still have
a lot of unanswered questions.

1083
01:12:53,744 --> 01:12:55,829
We just want to know what happened.

1084
01:13:04,421 --> 01:13:05,672
I was shocked.

1085
01:13:10,803 --> 01:13:15,557
Nobody wants to accept the fact
that John would do this

1086
01:13:15,641 --> 01:13:21,063
so close to completing
what he set out to accomplish,

1087
01:13:21,146 --> 01:13:27,236
bringing awareness to the fact
that Boeing was overlooking quality.

1088
01:13:27,986 --> 01:13:29,822
He was at the finish line.

1089
01:13:30,614 --> 01:13:31,698
Um…

1090
01:13:33,033 --> 01:13:36,245
Being found in his truck like that, um,

1091
01:13:37,579 --> 01:13:41,166
you know, it just…
it just didn't seem to us that

1092
01:13:41,834 --> 01:13:44,628
that was John… the John that we knew.

1093
01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:51,927
After that,
things got very weird.

1094
01:13:53,011 --> 01:13:55,848
I mean, it was like jumping
into an alternate universe.

1095
01:13:56,515 --> 01:13:59,476
He was obviously under
an enormous amount of scrutiny,

1096
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,687
but was it enough to take his own life?

1097
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:03,981
That's what everyone wants to know.

1098
01:14:04,606 --> 01:14:07,860
We're trying to nail down the timeline
of John Barnett's death

1099
01:14:07,943 --> 01:14:10,195
and whether this was indeed a suicide.

1100
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:12,364
People are raising their eyebrows.

1101
01:14:12,948 --> 01:14:15,492
People were saying
that John had been killed

1102
01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,370
to silence others from speaking out.

1103
01:14:19,621 --> 01:14:23,876
He said, "But if anything
happens to me, it's not suicide."

1104
01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:26,920
I know that he did not commit suicide.

1105
01:14:27,004 --> 01:14:28,338
There's no way.

1106
01:14:28,922 --> 01:14:31,049
It just doesn't make sense.

1107
01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:32,593
Well, that's our feeling too.

1108
01:14:32,676 --> 01:14:37,181
And the Charleston City Police are
investigating, and so is the coroner.

1109
01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:41,810
And we're just waiting for
the police department and the coroner

1110
01:14:41,894 --> 01:14:44,855
to release a report
on what they believe happened.

1111
01:14:46,565 --> 01:14:48,817
The atmosphere was just tense.

1112
01:14:49,443 --> 01:14:51,236
And even I started thinking,

1113
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,364
you know, I'm not clear
on what's really happened here.

1114
01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:07,044
When I had heard about
John Barnett losing his life,

1115
01:15:07,127 --> 01:15:08,420
that was traumatic.

1116
01:15:09,129 --> 01:15:11,131
But what really got me angry

1117
01:15:11,215 --> 01:15:16,720
was finding out how he was treated
by management for years,

1118
01:15:16,803 --> 01:15:19,890
'cause I could identify with that.

1119
01:15:22,643 --> 01:15:24,228
I was furious.

1120
01:15:26,563 --> 01:15:30,859
They had their chance to fix all this,
and they did nothing.

1121
01:15:33,237 --> 01:15:35,739
So I called The New York Times reporter.

1122
01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:38,033
I just said, use my name

1123
01:15:38,116 --> 01:15:41,495
and let people know
I gave you Boeing documentation.

1124
01:15:48,043 --> 01:15:51,838
Going public was completely
against my grain for the most part.

1125
01:15:51,922 --> 01:15:55,968
I… I'm not, you know,
one that's drawn to a camera.

1126
01:15:56,051 --> 01:16:00,305
Roy Irvin is speaking publicly,
on camera, for the first time.

1127
01:16:01,098 --> 01:16:03,308
John Barnett was a lighthouse.

1128
01:16:03,892 --> 01:16:05,978
When I first started at the company,

1129
01:16:06,061 --> 01:16:08,397
he was pointing people
in the right direction.

1130
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,649
He's continuing to do that now.

1131
01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:15,028
Roy is on a mission
to finish what Barnett started.

1132
01:16:15,112 --> 01:16:18,615
I'm not John,
but somebody needs to keep pushing.

1133
01:16:20,993 --> 01:16:26,248
My family has concerns
about me taking part in this movie,

1134
01:16:27,666 --> 01:16:29,334
but I'm doing it for John.

1135
01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:35,674
I was really scared.

1136
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:42,639
But I promised myself
I will be speaking up,

1137
01:16:42,723 --> 01:16:44,808
regardless of the consequences.

1138
01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:48,687
I'm here today because
I felt that I must come forward.

1139
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:54,109
I have serious concerns about the safety
of the 787 and 777 aircraft.

1140
01:16:54,192 --> 01:16:57,404
And I'm willing to take on
professional risk to talk about them.

1141
01:16:58,488 --> 01:17:01,158
We've now learned
there is a new whistleblower

1142
01:17:01,241 --> 01:17:02,743
named Sam Mohawk.

1143
01:17:02,826 --> 01:17:04,995
I put a big target
on my back in there.

1144
01:17:05,078 --> 01:17:06,079
So why'd you do it?

1145
01:17:06,163 --> 01:17:07,623
Because I'm concerned with safety.

1146
01:17:07,706 --> 01:17:09,041
Like, at the end of the day,

1147
01:17:09,124 --> 01:17:10,917
my friends and family
fly on these airplanes.

1148
01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:13,962
Since John's passing,

1149
01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:19,343
we've been contacted by dozens and dozens
and dozens of aviation whistleblowers.

1150
01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:24,806
They all have the same common concerns
that John Barnett had.

1151
01:17:24,890 --> 01:17:28,101
The New York Times interviewed
current and former Boeing employees

1152
01:17:28,185 --> 01:17:30,479
who say the workforce has,
quote, "dropped."

1153
01:17:30,562 --> 01:17:33,065
The inspection process has,
quote, "weakened."

1154
01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:37,235
And production speed is being prioritized
over quality control.

1155
01:17:38,195 --> 01:17:40,572
John inspired a lot of people
to come forward.

1156
01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:50,957
We're headed
to the Charleston County Coroner's Office

1157
01:17:51,041 --> 01:17:52,250
to meet with the coroner

1158
01:17:52,334 --> 01:17:56,380
who reached a conclusion
related to John Barnett's passing.

1159
01:17:56,963 --> 01:18:00,926
They're gonna be disclosing
the results of their investigation,

1160
01:18:01,009 --> 01:18:05,430
including forensic results
and the autopsy results.

1161
01:18:06,014 --> 01:18:07,724
Yeah,
there's a lot of questions.

1162
01:18:09,601 --> 01:18:12,521
This is gonna be
a very tough day for John's family.

1163
01:18:14,773 --> 01:18:16,358
Can y'all hear me okay?

1164
01:18:16,942 --> 01:18:18,235
Yes, thank you.

1165
01:18:18,819 --> 01:18:21,405
-Good morning, Rodney. Can you hear me?
-Good morning. Yes, ma'am.

1166
01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:28,286
So we were notified, um, of a… a death
in a vehicle at the hotel.

1167
01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:31,915
The vehicle, it was locked,
and they had to open it up.

1168
01:18:32,791 --> 01:18:36,503
We then, uh, photographed everything
as we found it.

1169
01:18:40,590 --> 01:18:44,219
The Charleston Police Department came up
with about 80 fingerprints

1170
01:18:44,302 --> 01:18:45,887
that belonged to John.

1171
01:18:48,265 --> 01:18:51,351
There was nothing to let us think
that there had been a struggle

1172
01:18:51,435 --> 01:18:52,811
or anything of that nature.

1173
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,275
We did obtain
the hotel surveillance cameras

1174
01:18:59,025 --> 01:19:02,529
where we can see John
coming into the lobby.

1175
01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:07,325
And then he exits the hotel at 8:37.

1176
01:19:08,243 --> 01:19:13,331
His truck is seen backing
into a parking spot at 8:45.

1177
01:19:14,708 --> 01:19:18,962
No one is seen entering the vehicle,
exiting the vehicle

1178
01:19:19,045 --> 01:19:21,506
until first responders find him.

1179
01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:27,137
One of the questions
that has been lingering is,

1180
01:19:27,220 --> 01:19:30,891
were you able to determine
that the bullet matched the gun?

1181
01:19:30,974 --> 01:19:36,772
Yes. What was found in the headliner
is what matches to his weapon.

1182
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:42,277
I think it's consistent
that it's John's weapon,

1183
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,321
he's inside his vehicle,

1184
01:19:44,404 --> 01:19:46,615
and the manner of death is suicide.

1185
01:19:56,917 --> 01:19:58,168
Heart-wrenching…

1186
01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:02,839
to know what, uh, my son had gone through,

1187
01:20:02,923 --> 01:20:05,926
and I saw some of it,

1188
01:20:06,009 --> 01:20:10,972
but I guess I just didn't realize
how much it bothered him.

1189
01:20:12,307 --> 01:20:13,600
Call me if you need me.

1190
01:20:13,683 --> 01:20:14,643
Thank you.

1191
01:20:14,726 --> 01:20:15,894
You're welcome.

1192
01:20:15,977 --> 01:20:17,354
- Bye-bye.
- Bye.

1193
01:20:20,023 --> 01:20:22,108
Give me a hug after that.

1194
01:20:31,243 --> 01:20:32,369
These are the items

1195
01:20:32,452 --> 01:20:36,498
that the Charleston City Police Department
released back to us.

1196
01:20:37,541 --> 01:20:39,835
John's, uh, laptop.

1197
01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:45,090
This was his cell phone.

1198
01:20:47,259 --> 01:20:48,635
And John's notebook.

1199
01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:55,517
And written inside there

1200
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,480
is the suicide note that John left
before he took his life.

1201
01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:06,111
"Fuck Boeing."

1202
01:21:07,571 --> 01:21:10,240
"I can't do this any longer. Enough."

1203
01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:14,870
"I pray the motherfuckers
that destroyed my life pay."

1204
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:17,539
"I pray Boeing pays."

1205
01:21:20,292 --> 01:21:25,255
"Bury me face down so Boeing and
their lying-ass leaders can kiss my ass."

1206
01:21:26,923 --> 01:21:30,427
"To my family and friends,
I found my purpose. I'm at peace."

1207
01:21:30,510 --> 01:21:31,636
"I love you more."

1208
01:21:32,178 --> 01:21:35,849
And then he signed,
John Mitch, aka Swampy.

1209
01:21:38,685 --> 01:21:42,480
And it's one of those things
where you just keep asking yourself,

1210
01:21:42,564 --> 01:21:44,691
"What could have I done differently?"

1211
01:21:45,442 --> 01:21:46,318
Yeah.

1212
01:21:48,528 --> 01:21:51,448
But one thing is for sure, and that is,

1213
01:21:52,115 --> 01:21:54,534
you know, Boeing
may not have pulled the trigger,

1214
01:21:54,618 --> 01:21:58,079
but Boeing was responsible
for John's death.

1215
01:22:03,376 --> 01:22:06,421
Today, a congressional hearing
is putting the safety and quality

1216
01:22:06,504 --> 01:22:08,715
of Boeing's commercial jets
in the spotlight.

1217
01:22:10,508 --> 01:22:15,972
After the 737 MAX crashes,
Boeing promised to turn things around.

1218
01:22:17,015 --> 01:22:21,519
And whistleblowers
came forward reporting to us

1219
01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:24,773
that, in fact,
there was simply more of the same.

1220
01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:27,692
Improper fastening,

1221
01:22:28,276 --> 01:22:30,820
use of defective and damaged parts,

1222
01:22:31,488 --> 01:22:34,032
lapses in manufacturing quality.

1223
01:22:35,241 --> 01:22:40,372
There is certainly mounting evidence
that a prosecution is justified.

1224
01:22:41,831 --> 01:22:46,503
And we felt more and more
that we had to demand accountability.

1225
01:22:46,586 --> 01:22:52,717
And that's the reason why Dave Calhoun,
the CEO, will be a witness today.

1226
01:23:02,352 --> 01:23:04,270
This is my daughter,
Danielle Moore.

1227
01:23:04,354 --> 01:23:06,564
Danielle was just 24 years old

1228
01:23:07,148 --> 01:23:11,820
when she died on Boeing 737 MAX.

1229
01:23:11,903 --> 01:23:14,114
So, my name is Zipporah Kuria,

1230
01:23:14,197 --> 01:23:16,574
and I lost my dad, Joseph Kuria Waithaka.

1231
01:23:17,575 --> 01:23:20,996
As the agencies involved
in making decisions that matter,

1232
01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:22,163
if you fail to prosecute,

1233
01:23:22,247 --> 01:23:26,876
if you fail to teach history a real lesson
of justice, and it repeats itself,

1234
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,586
how will you live with yourselves?

1235
01:23:43,184 --> 01:23:45,854
You destroyed
our son's life,

1236
01:23:45,937 --> 01:23:47,939
and you killed our children.

1237
01:23:48,773 --> 01:23:52,610
We will never have
a chance to see and hug them

1238
01:23:52,694 --> 01:23:55,238
just the way you do with your family.

1239
01:23:55,321 --> 01:23:57,198
Give us the answer.

1240
01:23:57,282 --> 01:23:59,409
Stop putting profit over people.

1241
01:23:59,492 --> 01:24:01,202
Think of the six minutes

1242
01:24:01,286 --> 01:24:03,705
of my daughter's last breath on the plane.

1243
01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:07,584
Six minutes that she called for me.

1244
01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:11,087
Five years ago, 346 innocent people

1245
01:24:11,171 --> 01:24:14,049
lost their lives
in two preventable tragedies.

1246
01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:19,220
In the wake of those tragedies,
Boeing promised to turn itself around.

1247
01:24:19,804 --> 01:24:24,059
And for a while, some sort of believed
that Boeing might have changed.

1248
01:24:24,142 --> 01:24:26,186
But then this past January,

1249
01:24:26,269 --> 01:24:31,066
the facade
literally blew off the hollow shell

1250
01:24:31,149 --> 01:24:34,194
that had been Boeing's promises
to the world.

1251
01:24:35,236 --> 01:24:39,699
The issues before us today
are a matter of life and death.

1252
01:24:39,783 --> 01:24:43,787
And this hearing is a moment of reckoning.

1253
01:24:45,330 --> 01:24:50,043
I would like to welcome in particular
some of the members of the audience

1254
01:24:50,126 --> 01:24:51,669
who are here today.

1255
01:24:52,378 --> 01:24:54,297
The family of John Barnett,

1256
01:24:55,215 --> 01:25:00,136
his mother, Vicky Stokes,
and brother, Rodney Barnett,

1257
01:25:01,012 --> 01:25:04,516
a Boeing whistleblower
who committed suicide

1258
01:25:04,599 --> 01:25:08,394
under the immense pressure
that the company put on him

1259
01:25:08,478 --> 01:25:10,271
for raising safety claims.

1260
01:25:12,232 --> 01:25:17,153
David Calhoun has served as President
and Chief Executive Officer of Boeing

1261
01:25:17,237 --> 01:25:19,280
since January 2020,

1262
01:25:19,364 --> 01:25:23,576
and he began his career
at General Electric Company, GE,

1263
01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:26,454
where he spent 26 years.

1264
01:25:27,872 --> 01:25:31,042
Mr. Calhoun, it seems like every other day

1265
01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:35,004
news breaks of a new problem
or safety concern with Boeing aircraft.

1266
01:25:35,088 --> 01:25:38,550
So what are the root causes
of this systemic failure?

1267
01:25:38,633 --> 01:25:41,928
How are you gonna fix it?
And who should we hold accountable?

1268
01:25:42,011 --> 01:25:44,722
Does the buck stop with you
or with somebody else?

1269
01:25:45,431 --> 01:25:51,604
The contributing causes to most everything
outside of the Alaska accident

1270
01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:56,442
relate to a variety of inputs
that are downstream

1271
01:25:56,526 --> 01:26:00,655
with respect to operating and maintenance
and et cetera with an airplane.

1272
01:26:00,738 --> 01:26:01,739
Um…

1273
01:26:02,365 --> 01:26:04,951
Alaska was a manufacturing defect.

1274
01:26:05,034 --> 01:26:08,538
I'm not aware of any others that were. Um…

1275
01:26:08,621 --> 01:26:11,583
The suppliers
of parts and components,

1276
01:26:12,792 --> 01:26:14,377
Boeing blames them.

1277
01:26:15,253 --> 01:26:20,550
The workers whose jobs are at stake,
Boeing blames them.

1278
01:26:21,217 --> 01:26:26,681
The pilots who fly these planes,
Boeing blames them.

1279
01:26:26,764 --> 01:26:30,018
Boeing blames everyone except itself.

1280
01:26:30,685 --> 01:26:33,771
This… So much of this relates
to an untrained workforce.

1281
01:26:33,855 --> 01:26:37,108
I… I… It's all about that, honestly.

1282
01:26:38,693 --> 01:26:43,323
Uh, Mr. Calhoun, what is it that…
that you get paid currently?

1283
01:26:44,324 --> 01:26:47,869
Senator, that's well disclosed
in our proxy documents,

1284
01:26:47,952 --> 01:26:50,288
uh, in… in each of the years
that I've been employed.

1285
01:26:50,371 --> 01:26:51,998
Yeah, but what is it?

1286
01:26:52,081 --> 01:26:54,959
- It's a big number, sir.
- Well, let me help you out.

1287
01:26:55,043 --> 01:26:57,128
It's $32.8 million this year.
Does that sound right?

1288
01:26:57,212 --> 01:26:58,463
Yes, it does.

1289
01:26:58,546 --> 01:27:02,342
That's a 45% increase over last year.
Does that sound right?

1290
01:27:02,425 --> 01:27:03,968
Yes, it does.

1291
01:27:04,052 --> 01:27:06,387
What is it
you get paid to do exactly?

1292
01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:08,681
I get paid to run the Boeing Company.

1293
01:27:08,765 --> 01:27:12,310
Yeah. Is quality part
of your compensation package?

1294
01:27:12,393 --> 01:27:16,231
Because we've had multiple whistleblowers
come before this committee and allege

1295
01:27:16,314 --> 01:27:20,526
that Boeing is cutting every possible
corner on quality and safety,

1296
01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:22,862
not just in the past but now.

1297
01:27:22,946 --> 01:27:25,365
They've alleged that you've eliminated
safety inspections,

1298
01:27:25,448 --> 01:27:28,326
that there are fewer inspectors
doing quality inspections out there.

1299
01:27:28,409 --> 01:27:31,829
They've alleged that
when they raised issues and concerns,

1300
01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:34,457
they were reassigned,
they were retaliated against,

1301
01:27:34,540 --> 01:27:36,209
they were physically threatened.

1302
01:27:36,793 --> 01:27:39,504
That doesn't sound like
attention to quality to me.

1303
01:27:39,587 --> 01:27:44,300
And yet you're getting paid
$33 million a year.

1304
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,601
Boeing is
in worse shape than ever,

1305
01:27:53,685 --> 01:27:56,479
and what's really hard to accept

1306
01:27:57,063 --> 01:28:00,566
is that the executives
who made all those decisions

1307
01:28:00,650 --> 01:28:02,694
are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

1308
01:28:04,028 --> 01:28:05,780
Boeing is in shambles,

1309
01:28:06,364 --> 01:28:10,493
and the very small group of men
who got the company there

1310
01:28:10,576 --> 01:28:13,913
are some of the richest people
in the world.

1311
01:28:15,832 --> 01:28:19,168
There have been many executives
who have come into Boeing,

1312
01:28:19,711 --> 01:28:21,754
come into companies across America,

1313
01:28:22,630 --> 01:28:26,384
who see their jobs as cost-cutting,

1314
01:28:27,969 --> 01:28:31,597
squeezing money out of the company
to increase profits.

1315
01:28:32,348 --> 01:28:35,226
You're strip-mining it.
You're strip-mining Boeing.

1316
01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:37,395
It was one of the greatest
American companies ever.

1317
01:28:37,478 --> 01:28:40,106
It has employed
thousands of people in my state,

1318
01:28:40,189 --> 01:28:44,319
and you are strip-mining it for profit,
shareholder value,

1319
01:28:44,402 --> 01:28:45,903
and you're being rewarded for it.

1320
01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:48,448
You got a huge raise, a huge increase.

1321
01:28:48,990 --> 01:28:53,286
So, it's working out great for you,
not for the American people.

1322
01:28:54,329 --> 01:28:57,373
Many of these executives
have no connection

1323
01:28:57,457 --> 01:28:58,958
to the product they're making.

1324
01:28:59,042 --> 01:29:01,669
They were hired because
they had some kind of business degree.

1325
01:29:01,753 --> 01:29:03,880
It's a characteristic
that successful companies have

1326
01:29:03,963 --> 01:29:05,882
and unsuccessful companies don't have.

1327
01:29:05,965 --> 01:29:07,800
This year, we're at 47 a month.

1328
01:29:07,884 --> 01:29:10,053
We're gonna be taking it up to 52 a month.

1329
01:29:10,136 --> 01:29:12,597
That forecast is getting
more and more robust every day,

1330
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,432
and if we can get some help
from the Congress,

1331
01:29:14,515 --> 01:29:17,018
we will ultimately realize those gains.

1332
01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:19,604
Frontier Flight 2688,

1333
01:29:19,687 --> 01:29:22,565
Portland Tower, runway 2-8 Left,
cleared for takeoff.

1334
01:29:22,648 --> 01:29:24,692
2-8 Left, cleared for takeoff.

1335
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:28,488
Boeing likes
to attack the symptoms.

1336
01:29:29,155 --> 01:29:33,159
Some part flies off an airplane,
or an engine catches fire,

1337
01:29:33,951 --> 01:29:39,415
they want to go after a quick fix,
and then they can say they did something.

1338
01:29:39,499 --> 01:29:44,754
Boeing never attacks the disease,
which is their leadership model.

1339
01:29:46,881 --> 01:29:49,509
Pursuit of money at all costs

1340
01:29:50,134 --> 01:29:54,180
rather than making
the greatest airplane in the world.

1341
01:29:56,766 --> 01:29:59,811
In most companies,
the stakes aren't people's lives.

1342
01:30:00,395 --> 01:30:02,563
But at Boeing, they are.

1343
01:30:05,483 --> 01:30:09,529
When the quality of Boeing suffers,
people die.

1344
01:30:12,198 --> 01:30:14,742
We all need safe air travel.

1345
01:30:15,743 --> 01:30:17,328
We need safe airplanes.

1346
01:30:18,371 --> 01:30:20,331
Boeing needs to be held accountable.

1347
01:30:59,412 --> 01:31:02,707
They really just wanted
to get rid of us.

1348
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:07,044
But I don't think I can walk away
and just say, "There's nothing we can do,"

1349
01:31:07,128 --> 01:31:08,337
and put my hands in the air.

1350
01:31:09,964 --> 01:31:12,842
There's been no justice,
no accountability.

1351
01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:15,511
It makes me so angry.

1352
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:20,183
And I think that we have to keep fighting.

1353
01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:25,313
It can't be allowed to just stay this way.

1354
01:31:27,523 --> 01:31:30,067
Something has to change.