1 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:25,066 Okay, I'm ready. 2 00:00:33,324 --> 00:00:35,785 Tonka always makes me feel safe. 3 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:39,831 If he's around, nobody's gonna ever hurt me, ever. 4 00:00:45,503 --> 00:00:48,298 His eyes are so soft and so loving. 5 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:52,844 That's Tonka's soul, that's his spirit. 6 00:00:52,927 --> 00:00:55,597 He's just a very kind and loving person. 7 00:01:00,477 --> 00:01:02,979 Everybody gets mad, especially, like, my husband, 8 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:06,524 because he thinks I should put him before Tonka. 9 00:01:06,608 --> 00:01:10,153 But there's no way that Jerry is as loyal as Tonka is to me. 10 00:01:11,446 --> 00:01:13,198 Tonka is it. 11 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:39,515 Police department. Please open up. 12 00:01:57,908 --> 00:01:59,244 Fuck. 13 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:02,580 -Hello? -You alright? 14 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:24,102 -Did you hear me? -Damn, yeah, I heard you. 15 00:02:39,868 --> 00:02:43,079 Alright, I'm gonna make my way your way. 16 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:45,081 You're not in custody, are you? 17 00:02:53,298 --> 00:02:56,676 You're crazy. You are a crazy girl, you. 18 00:03:06,019 --> 00:03:09,314 Apparently, the entire 30 minutes of the phone call with Tonia 19 00:03:09,397 --> 00:03:10,690 is public record. 20 00:03:11,316 --> 00:03:13,193 It's not sealed. 21 00:03:13,276 --> 00:03:15,737 The question is, where does that leave us? 22 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:16,696 Yeah. 23 00:03:17,739 --> 00:03:20,116 100%, she's gonna know, 24 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,369 whether she knows now or later. 25 00:03:23,495 --> 00:03:26,373 Did you get any sense that she-- 26 00:03:26,456 --> 00:03:28,708 No, she didn't sound suspicious. 27 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:35,090 Yeah. 28 00:03:43,139 --> 00:03:46,893 Yeah. But nothing is happening today. 29 00:03:46,976 --> 00:03:50,855 They can't move Tonka until the vet comes and everything. 30 00:03:54,734 --> 00:03:56,069 You're rolling. 31 00:03:56,152 --> 00:03:57,153 We're good? 32 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:58,530 What do you think? 33 00:03:58,613 --> 00:03:59,906 What do you think? 34 00:04:04,828 --> 00:04:05,829 Thanks for your help. 35 00:04:07,372 --> 00:04:09,165 -Good luck, Dwayne. -Alright. 36 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:41,072 I can see the U.S. Marshal camped out at the end of the driveway in an SUV. 37 00:04:49,998 --> 00:04:52,000 -Whatchamacallit. -Hey, man. 38 00:04:53,543 --> 00:04:54,961 Oh, God. 39 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:01,384 Yeah. 40 00:05:03,011 --> 00:05:04,346 Well, you hair looks great. 41 00:05:19,903 --> 00:05:21,988 Wait, are they gonna put you on the cover 42 00:05:22,072 --> 00:05:23,448 of the "Rolling Stone"? 43 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:27,452 You kids are too young to remember. 44 00:05:27,535 --> 00:05:29,245 If you were a rock star, to get your picture 45 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:30,830 on the cover of the "Rolling Stone" 46 00:05:30,914 --> 00:05:33,875 was like getting your picture on the cover of "Time" magazine. 47 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:45,095 You don't know? 48 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,632 But then what, Ton? 49 00:06:22,716 --> 00:06:24,592 I mean, you don't wanna be on the run. 50 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:29,014 You'd be on "America's Most Wanted". 51 00:06:30,473 --> 00:06:32,225 And PETA would love it. 52 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:37,313 It's time for it to end, don't you think? 53 00:06:39,315 --> 00:06:41,317 Just enjoy what's left. 54 00:06:58,626 --> 00:07:00,378 There's Jared Goodman right there. 55 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:02,630 Little weasel prick. 56 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:06,176 He better fuckin' stay away. 57 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:35,246 This is how stressed out they make him. 58 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:38,375 And he literally has gone ape. 59 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:47,008 And they think this is not harming and harassing 60 00:07:47,092 --> 00:07:48,760 a chimp that is ill? 61 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:57,477 They're getting ready to dart him. He's in the room next to me. 62 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,189 And as you can tell, he's raising nine kinds of hell. 63 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:06,236 Here is all their equipment with their little shit police department. 64 00:08:39,686 --> 00:08:43,690 When we stepped foot on Tonia Haddix's property, 65 00:08:43,773 --> 00:08:49,237 we didn't know if we were going to walk out with Tonka alive, 66 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,865 or if he would come out in a body bag. 67 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:55,368 Two veterinarians sedated Tonka. 68 00:08:56,411 --> 00:09:00,498 Because the basement was so dark, they couldn't actually do the exam there. 69 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:05,378 So, they ran an EKG and did a general physical exam 70 00:09:05,462 --> 00:09:07,380 on Tonia's patio. 71 00:09:09,466 --> 00:09:13,553 Thankfully, the vets made the call that, that he could go. 72 00:09:14,512 --> 00:09:16,181 And then, they were on their way. 73 00:09:20,101 --> 00:09:24,356 A Hollywood animal star has finally been rescued after a year-long search. 74 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:26,149 Tonka, a 38-year-old chimp 75 00:09:26,232 --> 00:09:29,569 who starred in the movies "Buddy" and "George of the Jungle", among others, 76 00:09:29,652 --> 00:09:32,989 whose owner hid him after allegedly claiming he was dead. 77 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:35,158 They only found out Tonka's true whereabouts 78 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:38,495 when Haddix told someone on the phone, outlining plans to euthanize him. 79 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,288 Haddix told Fox-2 today 80 00:09:40,372 --> 00:09:42,749 she's unable to talk on camera, but she messaged, quote, 81 00:09:42,832 --> 00:09:45,043 "If the judicial system was just, 82 00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:47,879 he never would've left the only home he's ever known." 83 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:17,492 The sprawling property became a crime scene... 84 00:10:19,411 --> 00:10:22,956 after Travis the chimp went on a wild rampage. 85 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:25,458 Send the police! 86 00:10:25,542 --> 00:10:26,918 What's the problem there? 87 00:10:27,002 --> 00:10:29,212 He's killing my friend! 88 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:32,924 The chimp's owner, Sandy Herold, says Travis was a loving pet. 89 00:10:34,009 --> 00:10:35,510 It's just been hell, it's-- 90 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:38,930 There's no way to explain it any different. 91 00:10:40,598 --> 00:10:43,018 After the loss of Travis, 92 00:10:43,101 --> 00:10:46,730 a lot of people had their own opinions about Sandy. 93 00:10:46,813 --> 00:10:49,482 How could anyone think that's a good idea, 94 00:10:49,566 --> 00:10:51,860 to try and domesticate a 200-pound chimp? 95 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:55,613 This was a brutal attack by a wild animal. I don't care if he was a celebrity. 96 00:10:56,573 --> 00:10:58,700 People were saying horrible things. 97 00:10:58,783 --> 00:11:01,119 I cooked for him, I shopped for him, 98 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:03,496 I lived with him, I slept with him. 99 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:06,124 "Oh, she was having sex with that chimp!" 100 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:08,543 One person took the narrative, 101 00:11:08,626 --> 00:11:11,046 and it makes a good story, right? 102 00:11:11,129 --> 00:11:13,423 It was all over the world. 103 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:16,593 Sandy had to, like, go into hiding. 104 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:22,057 All of a sudden, she's the mother that, you know, may have contributed 105 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:25,143 to this horrible thing that happened to Charla Nash. 106 00:11:25,226 --> 00:11:29,981 Charla Nash is at Ohio's Cleveland Clinic as she recovers from the massive injuries 107 00:11:30,065 --> 00:11:31,858 she suffered in the February attack. 108 00:11:33,443 --> 00:11:35,570 Happy birthday 109 00:11:35,653 --> 00:11:37,238 To you 110 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:39,449 Happy birthday to you 111 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:43,703 Happy birthday, dear Charla, happy birthday to you 112 00:11:43,787 --> 00:11:45,121 Thank you. 113 00:11:46,456 --> 00:11:48,458 Did you see the Oprah Winfrey interview? 114 00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:50,043 Yeah, it was horrible. 115 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:55,924 You know, many people around the world want to get a picture of you. 116 00:11:56,007 --> 00:11:57,842 Would you mind lifting the veil? 117 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:04,933 Once I saw Charla unveil her face, 118 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:09,145 I could no longer watch it, it was heartbreaking. 119 00:12:13,483 --> 00:12:16,945 For the next several months, Sandy was almost inconsolable. 120 00:12:19,072 --> 00:12:21,908 Come on, Travis, do like at home on the bed. 121 00:12:21,991 --> 00:12:23,451 Here. 122 00:12:23,535 --> 00:12:26,162 Her husband had passed. 123 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:27,247 Get up. 124 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:28,998 This is my husband's rest day. 125 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,711 Travis was the nail in the coffin. 126 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,214 Her entire family's gone now. 127 00:12:37,173 --> 00:12:39,300 She felt as though she had no purpose. 128 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:47,684 She kept everything intact as if Travis was still alive. 129 00:12:49,394 --> 00:12:55,150 The Elmo doll that he loved very much, all his pictures on the frigerator. 130 00:12:56,192 --> 00:13:01,031 It was almost like it was frozen in time, as if it was a memorial, 131 00:13:01,114 --> 00:13:03,408 just waiting for Travis to come home. 132 00:13:04,576 --> 00:13:07,370 Even the blood was still there. 133 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:09,330 It set into the plywood. 134 00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:16,129 She never removed it. 135 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:22,927 After what you've been through with this, 136 00:13:23,011 --> 00:13:25,847 do you still think chimps should be pets? 137 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:30,101 Would I have done it again? Yes. 138 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:38,193 It was horrific what happened, but I'll miss him for the rest of my life. 139 00:13:38,276 --> 00:13:40,820 This is Travis. He's gonna take a bath. 140 00:13:40,904 --> 00:13:43,698 She really could not accept that Travis was gone. 141 00:13:44,991 --> 00:13:48,828 That led her to seek out a medium 142 00:13:48,912 --> 00:13:52,999 with hopes of being able to still communicate 143 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:54,959 with Trav in some way. 144 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,443 Poor Sandy. 145 00:15:01,526 --> 00:15:04,738 She was really lonely, you know, for chimps. 146 00:15:12,746 --> 00:15:15,248 Sandy kept coming to visit, no matter where we were, 147 00:15:15,331 --> 00:15:16,833 all over the country. 148 00:15:18,877 --> 00:15:23,048 She showed up all over the place: at fairs, at rodeos, at circus. 149 00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:24,424 Thank you very much. 150 00:15:24,507 --> 00:15:28,428 She missed her own chimp, so she tracked us down. 151 00:15:30,096 --> 00:15:33,141 Chance, can you speak? 152 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:36,770 "I'm a chimpanzee, and I'm a Pam troglodyte." 153 00:15:36,853 --> 00:15:40,774 Ready? "Pam troglodyte." 154 00:15:44,903 --> 00:15:46,071 Yes! 155 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:52,118 How did you and Sandy become partners with this chimp? 156 00:15:52,202 --> 00:15:55,497 The people that had him didn't have the right permits. 157 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:59,626 He was gonna get confiscated and euthanized. 158 00:15:59,709 --> 00:16:02,671 So, I thought, "What are you waiting for? Go get it." 159 00:16:16,059 --> 00:16:19,896 I was about 20-grand short. 160 00:16:32,659 --> 00:16:34,244 Gives you another chance. 161 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:42,502 After having her friend completely be torn up 162 00:16:42,585 --> 00:16:44,421 and almost killed by a chimp, 163 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:47,757 Sandy went out one year later 164 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:50,135 and bought herself another chimp. 165 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:54,597 It's insane, when you think about it. It's insane. 166 00:16:56,266 --> 00:17:00,228 Sandy would fly down to Sarasota when she could 167 00:17:00,311 --> 00:17:03,898 and hang out with Chance and their other chimpanzees. 168 00:17:03,982 --> 00:17:07,402 She wanted Chance to stay the night with her, right, 169 00:17:07,484 --> 00:17:09,863 'cause she stayed with us. 170 00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:13,407 He wouldn't stay in bed with her, he kept sneaking off to me. 171 00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:18,663 He already knew I was his mom. 172 00:17:19,664 --> 00:17:25,377 They snuck him up here at least once. I have pictures of him in Sandy's kitchen. 173 00:17:25,462 --> 00:17:27,505 The state of Connecticut would never stand for her 174 00:17:27,589 --> 00:17:30,258 having another chimp on her property in Stamford. 175 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,387 Sandy thought visiting with Pam 176 00:17:34,471 --> 00:17:36,389 would really help the pain. 177 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:41,353 But in the end, it was like, "Wait a minute, 178 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:43,480 this isn't making it better." 179 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:48,068 Come here. Come here. Come here. 180 00:17:48,151 --> 00:17:49,986 Put your legs around my neck. Put 'em around my neck. 181 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:51,196 Trav, Trav. 182 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:53,907 Give me a big kiss. Come here. 183 00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:58,370 She was in a phenomenal amount of pain. 184 00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,749 One day, she said, "Man, I'm really not feeling good, 185 00:18:02,832 --> 00:18:06,044 but I'm gonna take a bath. Maybe that'll help." 186 00:18:07,796 --> 00:18:09,422 And that was it. 187 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:14,052 Sandra Herold died all alone, 188 00:18:14,135 --> 00:18:16,721 vilified to the very end for raising that wild chimp. 189 00:18:16,805 --> 00:18:20,266 But she was fairly healthy, so it was a shock this week 190 00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:23,186 when she suddenly died from a ruptured aortic aneurysm. 191 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:24,646 Her lawyer told us, quote, "In the end..." 192 00:18:24,729 --> 00:18:27,482 She couldn't get over Travis dying. 193 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:31,778 I honestly believe she died of a broken heart. 194 00:18:34,406 --> 00:18:36,825 Give me a sucky kiss. Give me a sucky kiss. 195 00:18:36,908 --> 00:18:39,494 Give me a sucky kiss. 196 00:18:42,205 --> 00:18:47,377 When it was time to bury Sandy, I knew where Travis's ashes were. 197 00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:52,757 Sandy totally loved that animal, 198 00:18:54,217 --> 00:18:56,261 like I love my chimps. 199 00:18:58,054 --> 00:19:00,640 Part of you dies with 'em, you know? 200 00:19:11,526 --> 00:19:12,777 Where we headed, Dwayne? 201 00:19:12,861 --> 00:19:14,320 Straight. 202 00:19:14,404 --> 00:19:17,574 And her house is gonna be right in front of us. 203 00:19:23,121 --> 00:19:26,833 No cars in the driveway. 204 00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:38,887 I'm basically just saying to Tonia 205 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:42,098 that haven't heard from her, I hope she's okay. 206 00:19:42,182 --> 00:19:47,062 And she knows she can always, uh, reach out and find me. 207 00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:52,067 Jesus. 208 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:54,361 -What? -Watching you text like this. 209 00:19:54,444 --> 00:19:55,737 Well, I'm trying to... 210 00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:05,538 Your call has been forwarded 211 00:20:05,622 --> 00:20:07,207 to an automatic voice message system. 212 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:12,796 9-9-9-5-3 is not available. 213 00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:15,215 Your call has been forwarded 214 00:20:15,298 --> 00:20:17,300 to an automatic voice message system. 215 00:20:17,384 --> 00:20:18,635 Is not available. 216 00:20:18,885 --> 00:20:20,053 Is not available. 217 00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:21,805 Is not available. 218 00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:25,975 ...or press 1 for more options. 219 00:20:27,102 --> 00:20:30,772 Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. 220 00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:41,533 Yo. 221 00:20:43,368 --> 00:20:45,453 Obviously, Tonia's figured it out. 222 00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:53,837 Yeah. Well, I mean, that-- Did you read the "Rolling Stone" article? 223 00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:56,715 Fuck! 224 00:21:03,013 --> 00:21:07,267 I heard about the story a couple weeks before Tonka was found, 225 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:10,562 when Alan Cumming put out a reward. 226 00:21:10,645 --> 00:21:15,025 I specialize in film and television investigations. 227 00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:17,152 This story's a little bit different, 228 00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:21,489 but Alan Cumming kind of was that gateway into this. 229 00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:24,367 A woman who claimed a chimpanzee was dead... 230 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:29,664 Shortly after the news came out that Tonka was alive, I just called Tonia. 231 00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:33,418 I didn't think she was gonna pick up, and she did. 232 00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:35,378 She admitted straight off the bat 233 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,505 that she had Tonka for a year, 234 00:21:37,589 --> 00:21:40,967 and that someone in her life turned her in. 235 00:21:42,093 --> 00:21:44,012 I was asking her who actually knew 236 00:21:44,095 --> 00:21:46,222 about Tonka being alive, and she's like, 237 00:21:46,306 --> 00:21:50,143 "The documentary crew knew. My friends knew. Friends watched him." 238 00:21:50,226 --> 00:21:53,855 And I said, "Documentary crew?" And she's like, "Yeah!" 239 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:58,693 She gave me the name of the production company, 240 00:21:58,777 --> 00:22:03,198 and I was able to track down who was maybe participating. 241 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:06,368 And it led back to, to you. 242 00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:10,789 She was pretty blindsided. 243 00:22:10,872 --> 00:22:16,252 Do you have any thoughts on why Tonia did this documentary with us, 244 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:18,880 knowing everything that's happened and transpired? 245 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:23,051 I think she just want her story to be heard. 246 00:22:23,134 --> 00:22:26,763 I think she felt backed up against a wall with PETA. 247 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:30,266 And so, I think she just kind of wanted to voice her frustrations 248 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:32,727 and kind of, you know, going up against the man, 249 00:22:32,811 --> 00:22:35,188 and this is what's happening to her. 250 00:22:37,107 --> 00:22:39,693 I also think she's really talkative. 251 00:22:41,611 --> 00:22:43,113 She'll tell anyone everything. 252 00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:44,698 It's okay, baby. 253 00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:47,867 When there's a chance to explain herself, she takes that. 254 00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:51,121 I love you, boy. 255 00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:55,250 Even when she knows that maybe she shouldn't keep talking 256 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:58,878 or tell people a secret, she just can't help herself. 257 00:23:00,088 --> 00:23:02,507 I really like Tonia. 258 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:05,468 When she's telling me her story and what she's went through, 259 00:23:05,552 --> 00:23:08,179 I was really, you know, empathizing with her. 260 00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:12,183 She told me she took care of Tonka 261 00:23:12,267 --> 00:23:14,477 the best way that she knew how. 262 00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:19,858 And then, I saw pictures of her in her basement. 263 00:23:20,942 --> 00:23:23,028 It just kind of hits you of, like, 264 00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,739 this is where he was being kept for a year, 265 00:23:25,822 --> 00:23:27,657 and alone with no other chimps. 266 00:23:29,617 --> 00:23:33,329 And I think the reality of the situation really becomes clear. 267 00:23:34,831 --> 00:23:39,711 To me, I question, does she not see what other people can see? 268 00:23:44,758 --> 00:23:46,843 Would somebody be able to grab the bucket 269 00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:49,179 with the chains and straps for the transfer box 270 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:51,097 and bring it over to special needs? 271 00:23:56,686 --> 00:24:01,149 The plan is to bring him into outside special needs. 272 00:24:07,906 --> 00:24:10,575 Immediately upon arrival to Save the Chimps, 273 00:24:10,658 --> 00:24:14,120 Tonka was placed in a temporary quarantine enclosure. 274 00:24:17,582 --> 00:24:20,710 Tonka did not have any sort of heart condition, 275 00:24:20,794 --> 00:24:22,337 as Tonia had said. 276 00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:25,965 All of the assessment really indicated, 277 00:24:26,049 --> 00:24:30,720 he was overweight and needed to be on a better diet. 278 00:24:30,804 --> 00:24:34,683 There was absolutely no basis whatsoever to euthanize him. 279 00:24:36,309 --> 00:24:40,605 Tonka will stay in quarantine for 90 days 280 00:24:40,689 --> 00:24:42,732 before, hopefully, he can be fully integrated 281 00:24:42,816 --> 00:24:46,903 into one of the 12 main islands at the facility. 282 00:25:49,507 --> 00:25:50,759 Look at those eyes. 283 00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:15,116 Chimps are not better off in a sanctuary. 284 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:21,081 My chimps are prima donnas. 285 00:26:21,790 --> 00:26:25,251 Gotta get rid of the goat turds. He doesn't like 'em. 286 00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:32,384 Turn around, there's no goat crap there, so stop looking for it. 287 00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,135 Sit down, put your feet down. 288 00:26:36,012 --> 00:26:39,057 Goat turds. Disgusting, aren't they? 289 00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:41,935 They don't like being in mosquitoes. 290 00:26:42,018 --> 00:26:45,313 They don't like the rain. They don't like the wind. 291 00:26:45,397 --> 00:26:49,609 Little bit of drizzle, they won't-- "No, I'm not going out today." 292 00:26:51,861 --> 00:26:54,656 My chimps have slept in the White House. 293 00:26:54,739 --> 00:26:57,992 Let's welcome her, if you will. Pamela Rosaire. 294 00:26:58,076 --> 00:27:00,954 Toto, why don't you do a handstand? 295 00:27:01,037 --> 00:27:03,707 There it is, a head handstand! 296 00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:06,668 Chimps that have been in the entertainment industry 297 00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,503 have been humanized. 298 00:27:12,507 --> 00:27:18,013 What are you getting? No, no, no, no. You come here. Give me those. 299 00:27:18,096 --> 00:27:21,933 Those are cold french fries. Come here. 300 00:27:22,017 --> 00:27:25,353 They want coffee in the morning, that kind of stuff. 301 00:27:27,522 --> 00:27:29,899 Hands up. Put your hands up. 302 00:27:29,983 --> 00:27:33,403 They really love to perform and entertain people. 303 00:27:33,486 --> 00:27:37,323 Clap your hands. Hard, hard, hard. Harder, harder. 304 00:27:37,407 --> 00:27:41,077 And PETA, they just don't know what the real deal is. 305 00:27:42,037 --> 00:27:45,206 That's it, roll it. Roll it like a man, yeah. 306 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:50,587 Animals that have grown up entertaining, they enjoy it. 307 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:55,008 It's like, you know, what are they gonna do all day? 308 00:27:55,091 --> 00:27:56,343 It's like an old person. 309 00:27:56,426 --> 00:27:59,054 Once they retire, they don't last long. 310 00:28:00,013 --> 00:28:03,475 Come here. There you are, look. That's you. 311 00:28:03,558 --> 00:28:05,101 There he is, there-- Look. 312 00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:06,353 Look, that's you. 313 00:28:07,103 --> 00:28:09,272 See, he recognizes Leo. 314 00:28:10,398 --> 00:28:12,400 He remembers doing all this. 315 00:28:12,484 --> 00:28:16,488 Stop! You're being crazy. 316 00:28:16,571 --> 00:28:18,782 Come here. Stop. 317 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:22,702 Chance likes to come and hang out with us in the house. 318 00:28:22,786 --> 00:28:25,497 You're too big to lay in my lap. 319 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:27,290 But you can't live with 'em. 320 00:28:27,374 --> 00:28:30,085 You're squeezing me really hard. 321 00:28:31,336 --> 00:28:36,299 You have to build a major facility. You know, like state pen. 322 00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:40,887 I know a lot of people think, "Oh, they're in a cage, well..." 323 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,932 But you ask Chance, and he'll tell you. 324 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,060 He's happy. 325 00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:52,732 Let's go this way. Let's go home. Come on. 326 00:29:15,422 --> 00:29:18,174 The way this whole thing went down, 327 00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:20,635 I do feel bad about that. 328 00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:27,017 But Tonia knew we were always filming a documentary. 329 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,144 And I always said, "Don't say anything 330 00:29:29,227 --> 00:29:31,229 that you don't want the whole world to know." 331 00:29:33,898 --> 00:29:37,152 So, let's try to call her. She may just hang up on you. 332 00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:39,988 When you hold the phone, can you hold it with your other hand? 333 00:29:40,071 --> 00:29:43,491 And Dwayne, I would just be like, "Tonia, can I just explain... 334 00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:45,535 -If she answers. -...you know, my side?" 335 00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:02,093 Hey, how are you? 336 00:30:03,011 --> 00:30:09,392 You know, I'm okay. And I just thought I needed to call you. 337 00:30:10,393 --> 00:30:13,438 I just wanted to and... 338 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:18,568 and tell you, sorry. 339 00:30:21,821 --> 00:30:27,410 This is not what I had wanted to happen at all. 340 00:30:31,998 --> 00:30:36,628 I believe that. Believe it or not, I do believe that. 341 00:30:36,711 --> 00:30:39,005 You know, you're the only one out of that whole crew 342 00:30:39,089 --> 00:30:42,467 that I thought the world of because you do love the animals. 343 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:43,885 I see it. 344 00:30:43,968 --> 00:30:46,054 I just couldn't figure out where your place was, 345 00:30:46,137 --> 00:30:49,140 except I just figured because Eric Goode's good at this, 346 00:30:49,224 --> 00:30:53,019 he hires people like you that can get in 347 00:30:53,103 --> 00:30:55,021 and get the trust built. 348 00:30:55,105 --> 00:30:57,565 Have you researched Eric Goode? 349 00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:59,734 -Yeah, I mean-- -You know his mom 350 00:30:59,818 --> 00:31:02,529 was basically a prostitute, right? 351 00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:04,406 His mom was trash. 352 00:31:05,323 --> 00:31:08,326 And caused him to be fucked up in the head. 353 00:31:08,952 --> 00:31:14,040 He can't take the law into his own hands. He has no right to do that. 354 00:31:14,124 --> 00:31:17,127 I trusted you guys, and you guys harmed Tonka. 355 00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:18,837 You didn't harm me. 356 00:31:20,088 --> 00:31:21,464 Look at this. 357 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:25,510 This is the first picture Save the Chimps posted of him. 358 00:31:25,593 --> 00:31:30,140 Look at his face. Tell me that he looks happy. 359 00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:32,809 He's lost. 360 00:31:34,936 --> 00:31:37,439 So, what happens now? 361 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:40,275 I mean... 362 00:31:40,358 --> 00:31:41,943 Do I want this documentary? 363 00:31:42,027 --> 00:31:44,195 No, no, no, no, no. 364 00:31:45,447 --> 00:31:47,115 But here's the deal. 365 00:31:47,198 --> 00:31:48,908 If it has to be, though, 366 00:31:48,992 --> 00:31:52,370 I want it to be about what the true story is. 367 00:31:52,454 --> 00:31:56,750 So, if you can't beat 'em, you might as well join them. 368 00:32:09,346 --> 00:32:10,764 This is her. 369 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:21,149 You drive that thing, you ripped it in here. 370 00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:23,109 Hi, how are you? 371 00:32:23,193 --> 00:32:24,569 Have you ever been here before? 372 00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:29,783 It's the same. 373 00:32:29,866 --> 00:32:33,119 It even smells like 1960. 374 00:32:36,831 --> 00:32:38,917 A lot has happened since we last talked. 375 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:40,752 Yeah. 376 00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:43,463 Do you blame me for Tonka? 377 00:32:44,964 --> 00:32:47,676 No. If I did, I wouldn't be here, obviously. 378 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,637 I get a feel for people, and I know people. 379 00:32:52,222 --> 00:32:57,769 So, in the interest of fairness, I talked to Eric Goode. 380 00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:03,358 And I said, "Would you be willing to come and meet Tonia?" 381 00:33:04,818 --> 00:33:06,152 He said yes. 382 00:33:06,903 --> 00:33:10,240 So, would you be willing to meet Eric? 383 00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:42,856 You know, it just... 384 00:33:43,815 --> 00:33:46,985 Really curious what she's gonna do when she hears I'm here. 385 00:33:48,486 --> 00:33:50,238 'Cause I'm the bad guy in this. 386 00:33:53,366 --> 00:33:56,077 But we like to look at ourselves differently, don't we? 387 00:34:00,498 --> 00:34:02,208 I don't know, we... 388 00:34:04,002 --> 00:34:07,088 like to believe our own truth. 389 00:34:17,474 --> 00:34:21,061 Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be here, but I'm just... 390 00:34:21,143 --> 00:34:22,728 -Okay. -Okay, alright. 391 00:34:22,812 --> 00:34:24,272 -Oh, my God. -Tonia... 392 00:34:24,356 --> 00:34:26,274 -Hi. -...this is Eric Goode. 393 00:34:26,358 --> 00:34:28,818 We have a lot to talk about. 394 00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:30,779 So, there's so many things I wanna tell you, 395 00:34:30,862 --> 00:34:35,074 but one is, I can relate to what you're going through. 396 00:34:37,034 --> 00:34:39,913 -I hope so. -I also keep animals. 397 00:34:39,996 --> 00:34:45,168 And I know there's certain animals that if someone took them away from me, 398 00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:47,504 I would be very, very upset. 399 00:34:48,672 --> 00:34:53,426 And, of course, of course, I never expected this to end this way. 400 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:55,762 But when you started talking about putting Tonka down-- 401 00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:58,515 Yeah, but I never said I was. 402 00:34:58,598 --> 00:35:02,519 You just took the words, but you did not take 403 00:35:02,602 --> 00:35:05,188 the emotion, the feeling of what I would do. 404 00:35:05,271 --> 00:35:08,608 So, you were really never contemplating killing Tonka? 405 00:35:08,692 --> 00:35:09,901 No. 406 00:35:11,528 --> 00:35:14,406 I guess it was smart to say, "I'm gonna kill Tonka, 407 00:35:14,489 --> 00:35:17,534 "because that would just make everyone just think 408 00:35:17,617 --> 00:35:20,620 I don't have Tonka, and then I can live happily ever after with Tonka." 409 00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:23,748 Yeah, that was part of it. Because it got to the point to where 410 00:35:23,832 --> 00:35:25,667 I would've ran to Mexico. 411 00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:27,544 I would've had coyotes get me across this-- 412 00:35:27,627 --> 00:35:31,339 the border with Tonka, and me and Tonka would've lived in Mexico. 413 00:35:32,465 --> 00:35:33,633 The rest of our lives. 414 00:35:33,717 --> 00:35:37,262 And I'd just build him a cage there, and just get me a little veranda, 415 00:35:37,345 --> 00:35:39,973 and get me some Mexicans to help me, and there we go. 416 00:35:41,224 --> 00:35:44,436 Why are you talking to me? Why are you okay talking with me? 417 00:35:45,562 --> 00:35:47,439 I just want Tonka to come home. 418 00:35:47,522 --> 00:35:51,067 And if this will make it happen and put a little pressure on PETA 419 00:35:51,151 --> 00:35:55,280 to just let me visit, that's all I care about. 420 00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:01,369 'Cause he is my kid. He is my kid. 421 00:36:02,537 --> 00:36:04,831 Even though I didn't naturally bore him, 422 00:36:04,914 --> 00:36:10,337 Tonka is a humanzee-- half human, half chimpanzee. 423 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:13,548 But his preference is the human side. 424 00:36:27,687 --> 00:36:29,981 After Tonka left, I haven't been down here. 425 00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:37,447 It's like a mausoleum. 426 00:36:40,033 --> 00:36:44,162 These are all his blankets. I've not touched 'em. Everything is exact. 427 00:36:45,288 --> 00:36:47,332 As I go past the stairway, 428 00:36:47,415 --> 00:36:50,669 I think I'm gonna see him come up, 'cause he did, 429 00:36:50,752 --> 00:36:52,671 and no Tonka. 430 00:36:54,506 --> 00:36:57,759 Tonka had free access to any room here. 431 00:36:58,176 --> 00:37:00,679 He was not just in that little tiny cage. 432 00:37:01,513 --> 00:37:03,473 He loved to look outside. 433 00:37:04,641 --> 00:37:07,977 Is there anything that replaces Tonka for you? 434 00:37:09,896 --> 00:37:13,024 Oh, no. No. 435 00:37:38,258 --> 00:37:42,053 How I cope with things is just by ignoring. 436 00:37:45,765 --> 00:37:48,560 I don't talk about it. I just don't act like it exists. 437 00:37:48,643 --> 00:37:50,395 See what you think of that. 438 00:37:53,857 --> 00:37:57,318 Basically, to compensate for Tonka not being here, 439 00:37:57,402 --> 00:37:59,863 I try to keep busy by getting the zoo prepped. 440 00:38:07,996 --> 00:38:10,623 You just keep your time and space filled 441 00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:13,126 and your mind occupied. 442 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:27,182 Say, "Give me a week," and say, "He'll be my best friend." 443 00:38:51,998 --> 00:38:55,794 I think my golden years have turned into copper. 444 00:38:57,295 --> 00:39:00,924 Because I've lost my child. 445 00:39:07,138 --> 00:39:13,019 Chance was jumping around, being a chimp. And all of a sudden, he just keeled over. 446 00:39:15,438 --> 00:39:16,690 -Fifteen. -Fifteen? 447 00:39:16,773 --> 00:39:18,400 -Just a kid, you know? -Just a kid. 448 00:39:18,483 --> 00:39:21,903 I think something in his brain happened. 449 00:39:22,612 --> 00:39:24,406 I'm sorry for your loss. 450 00:39:28,368 --> 00:39:31,413 Let me tell you, when we got Chance, 451 00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:35,709 it was his last chance to have a permanent home, 452 00:39:35,792 --> 00:39:39,754 and my last chance to have a baby at my age. 453 00:39:39,838 --> 00:39:43,842 And God bless God for giving it to me. 454 00:39:47,887 --> 00:39:53,810 And I love you all. Thank you all for honoring my son. 455 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,190 This is Chance. 456 00:40:00,483 --> 00:40:02,986 He just said "hello" in chimpanzee. 457 00:40:03,069 --> 00:40:05,030 Isn't that sweet? Can you wave to everyone? 458 00:40:05,113 --> 00:40:06,948 Put your hand up and wave. 459 00:40:09,784 --> 00:40:13,121 I'm forever grateful for having him 460 00:40:13,204 --> 00:40:15,874 for the 15 years that I had him. 461 00:40:15,957 --> 00:40:19,252 You give me that ball. You give me that ball! 462 00:40:19,336 --> 00:40:21,171 You better give me that ball. 463 00:40:21,254 --> 00:40:24,049 I don't care if I empty my banking account, 464 00:40:24,132 --> 00:40:27,761 sell my property, sell my car. 465 00:40:27,844 --> 00:40:29,471 I'd do it again. 466 00:40:33,099 --> 00:40:34,851 I still have three chimps. 467 00:40:36,478 --> 00:40:38,855 Ricky, stop. 468 00:40:38,938 --> 00:40:40,815 They are my whole life. 469 00:40:44,277 --> 00:40:47,155 But my heart is broken. 470 00:40:48,365 --> 00:40:51,034 So, if anybody has a baby out there 471 00:40:51,117 --> 00:40:54,287 that they need to place where it'll have a forever home 472 00:40:54,371 --> 00:40:57,832 and live like a millionaire, 473 00:40:59,709 --> 00:41:03,338 to bring him to my house, okay? 474 00:41:17,727 --> 00:41:19,729 Here she is. Here she is, hold on. 475 00:41:19,813 --> 00:41:22,315 Hey, Tonia. What's happening? 476 00:41:22,399 --> 00:41:25,694 You gotta realize, I got a broken foot. 477 00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:27,946 So, anything we do, I have to have my-- 478 00:41:28,029 --> 00:41:29,531 Alright, I'm here. I pulled in. 479 00:41:29,614 --> 00:41:31,741 -Okay, I'll see you in a second. -Okay. Okay, bye. 480 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,377 How did you hurt your foot? 481 00:41:43,503 --> 00:41:44,754 That's... 482 00:41:45,255 --> 00:41:49,050 that's another story. It is what it is. 483 00:41:52,012 --> 00:41:54,764 There's so much going on with PETA. 484 00:41:58,601 --> 00:42:05,442 Last Monday, there was a ruling that stated that I had to pay PETA 485 00:42:05,525 --> 00:42:09,738 $225,000 in attorney fees. 486 00:42:09,821 --> 00:42:12,240 -Do you have money? -No. 487 00:42:12,323 --> 00:42:14,409 Not at this point, no. 488 00:42:14,492 --> 00:42:17,328 It's been dumped into the zoo over here. 489 00:42:17,412 --> 00:42:23,168 And addition to that, the brokering market is pretty low right now. 490 00:42:23,251 --> 00:42:25,754 Plus, I can't drive. I can't go pick up animals. 491 00:42:25,837 --> 00:42:27,672 I can't do anything. 492 00:42:38,224 --> 00:42:40,727 I'm always used to hustling, and, you know, 493 00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:44,606 being able to produce money every week. And since it hasn't been happening, 494 00:42:44,689 --> 00:42:48,109 it's been stagnated, it's really had me very, very concerned. 495 00:42:55,533 --> 00:42:57,619 The zoo's gotta be successful. 496 00:42:57,702 --> 00:43:00,413 I have a lot of anxiety behind it. 497 00:43:09,047 --> 00:43:10,632 -Hi, Tonia. -Hey, Tonia. 498 00:43:10,715 --> 00:43:12,300 -This is Joanie. -Hi, this is Meg 499 00:43:12,384 --> 00:43:14,135 -with Americollect. -This is Beth. 500 00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:16,513 -I am a debt collector. -I'm a debt collector. 501 00:43:16,596 --> 00:43:18,181 This is an attempt to collect a debt. 502 00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:19,641 And this is an attempt to collect a debt. 503 00:43:19,724 --> 00:43:21,851 I'm in the office Monday through Friday. 504 00:43:21,935 --> 00:43:23,019 From 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. 505 00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:24,354 Again, I'm a debt collector. 506 00:43:24,437 --> 00:43:25,855 Thank you so much, and have a great day. 507 00:43:25,939 --> 00:43:27,065 Thanks, and have a great day. 508 00:43:27,148 --> 00:43:29,150 Thanks, and have a great day. 509 00:43:33,488 --> 00:43:37,492 Do I think that as soon as they find out about the zoo, 510 00:43:37,575 --> 00:43:42,997 Pee-wee Herman and Brittany Peet will be at the doors? Oh, yeah. 511 00:43:44,332 --> 00:43:46,668 Once they get ahold of somebody, 512 00:43:46,751 --> 00:43:49,838 they don't turn 'em loose until basically they're killed. 513 00:43:51,631 --> 00:43:53,842 Yeah, you get to hold a monkey. 514 00:43:53,925 --> 00:43:56,720 I'm gonna let somebody help me pick names for 'em. 515 00:43:59,180 --> 00:44:02,100 I think Tonia's zoo is all about serving 516 00:44:02,183 --> 00:44:07,188 as a marketing tool for her exotic animal sale business. 517 00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:11,651 People have no clue. Most people never get to hold a baby, ever. 518 00:44:11,735 --> 00:44:16,531 It's designed to drive up the demand for pet primates. 519 00:44:17,699 --> 00:44:22,829 And as long as Tonia Haddix continues abusing and exploiting animals, 520 00:44:22,912 --> 00:44:26,666 PETA will continue going after her. 521 00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:30,086 So, there'll always be baby monkeys, baby wallabies, baby everything, 522 00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:32,172 we'll always have a baby of different types. 523 00:44:32,255 --> 00:44:36,134 So, just 'cause you had a baby this week doesn't mean it will be the same baby. 524 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:40,388 A quarter-million dollars is a lot of money. 525 00:44:40,472 --> 00:44:45,310 Is it overkill to expect Tonia to pay that judgment? 526 00:44:45,393 --> 00:44:50,440 This isn't about Tonia Haddix anymore. This is about PETA's mission. 527 00:44:51,483 --> 00:44:55,487 That money will go back into helping more animals. 528 00:44:55,570 --> 00:45:01,284 It's never PETA's intent to make anyone insolvent. 529 00:45:02,369 --> 00:45:04,871 We don't want Tonia to be out on the street. 530 00:45:04,954 --> 00:45:07,749 We want her out of the animal exploitation business. 531 00:45:13,755 --> 00:45:16,883 I got an email from Jared Goodman. 532 00:45:16,966 --> 00:45:20,929 "I write for this purpose of a potential alternative 533 00:45:21,012 --> 00:45:23,181 "in resolution. 534 00:45:23,264 --> 00:45:26,267 "PETA can forgo collections if Miss Haddix 535 00:45:26,351 --> 00:45:29,104 "would agree to go out of the animal dealing 536 00:45:29,187 --> 00:45:31,940 and exhibition business." 537 00:45:32,023 --> 00:45:38,321 I cannot breed, sell, adopt, trade, negotiate, transport any kind of animal, 538 00:45:38,405 --> 00:45:40,240 not just exotics. 539 00:45:44,661 --> 00:45:47,706 Sorry. I'm sorry, this is... 540 00:45:47,789 --> 00:45:52,460 That's fucked up. That is so fucked up and ridiculous. 541 00:45:52,544 --> 00:45:57,424 No. No, no, no, no. Now, I'm mad. Mad, mad, mad. 542 00:45:57,507 --> 00:45:58,800 No. 543 00:46:05,682 --> 00:46:07,684 There's only one thing that they could give me 544 00:46:07,767 --> 00:46:12,022 that would get me to stand down, and that's Tonka. 545 00:46:14,232 --> 00:46:18,236 If they would give me my kid back, I would give 'em everything they want. 546 00:46:22,198 --> 00:46:25,160 But the realization just actually set in 547 00:46:25,243 --> 00:46:29,581 for the first time that Tonka probably won't come home. 548 00:47:14,668 --> 00:47:17,253 I love Tonka. He's my whole heart. 549 00:47:17,337 --> 00:47:20,507 He's my whole life. I would give up everything. 550 00:47:20,590 --> 00:47:22,342 I'd give up my marriage, I'd give up anything 551 00:47:22,425 --> 00:47:23,968 if they would let me have Tonka. 552 00:47:24,928 --> 00:47:27,180 And if they would just let me visit, 553 00:47:27,263 --> 00:47:30,350 all I'd have to do is say, "Let's go home, boy." 554 00:47:40,694 --> 00:47:44,447 Tonka would say, "Mom, how come I'm not at home? 555 00:47:44,531 --> 00:47:46,825 What the hell happened here?" 556 00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:18,440 I'm feeling sort of nervous. There's a little churning in the stomach. 557 00:48:19,774 --> 00:48:24,904 So many years of hoping I would see him again, 558 00:48:24,988 --> 00:48:27,115 and in a place like this as well. 559 00:48:29,034 --> 00:48:30,785 So, it's quite-- yeah, it's quite a lot. 560 00:48:30,869 --> 00:48:36,374 Feels like this culmination of a really long odyssey. 561 00:48:45,633 --> 00:48:47,093 Hello? 562 00:48:47,594 --> 00:48:48,636 Hello? 563 00:48:49,512 --> 00:48:50,930 It's ringing. 564 00:48:52,724 --> 00:48:53,808 -Hello. -Save the Chimps. 565 00:48:53,892 --> 00:48:55,018 -How can I help you? -Hello. 566 00:48:55,101 --> 00:48:58,438 It's Alan Cumming and some filmy people. 567 00:49:02,317 --> 00:49:06,905 So, we're on 150 acres, 12 islands, 568 00:49:06,988 --> 00:49:10,742 each with large social groups. 569 00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:16,706 Thirteen to 23 chimps in each of the social groups. 570 00:49:19,209 --> 00:49:22,212 This is Tonka's island here on the right. 571 00:49:27,217 --> 00:49:31,388 Actually knowing that he's here is just sort of... 572 00:49:33,014 --> 00:49:34,307 Oh, look. 573 00:49:44,442 --> 00:49:45,819 I recognize him. 574 00:50:14,681 --> 00:50:18,935 It's easy to forget how insane this whole thing was, 575 00:50:19,019 --> 00:50:22,981 like, all the years of court cases and lies. 576 00:50:23,064 --> 00:50:25,817 And, I mean, it was just insane. 577 00:50:28,653 --> 00:50:30,989 Finally, it was sort of calm 578 00:50:31,948 --> 00:50:33,908 for the first time in this whole story. 579 00:50:41,166 --> 00:50:45,128 I really hope Tonia might think that too. 580 00:50:45,211 --> 00:50:50,258 I really hope that she will watch this and will hopefully... 581 00:50:52,635 --> 00:50:53,762 I-- 582 00:50:53,845 --> 00:50:55,555 I hope she might understand. 583 00:50:55,638 --> 00:50:59,476 Yeah, I really hope she might be at peace with this, with watching this. 584 00:51:18,453 --> 00:51:20,163 Tonia Haddix. 585 00:51:23,875 --> 00:51:25,377 -Yo. -I fucked up. 586 00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:27,921 I admit that I did something stupid. 587 00:51:28,004 --> 00:51:29,631 Where are you? What's going on? 588 00:51:29,714 --> 00:51:33,635 It's gonna be national headlines, 'cause with my name on a chimp situation, 589 00:51:33,718 --> 00:51:35,303 you know what that's gonna bring. 590 00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:38,848 I mean, come on. Oh, you don't even frickin' know. 591 00:51:41,184 --> 00:51:44,145 Two days ago, I get a call from Tonia 592 00:51:44,229 --> 00:51:46,398 telling me that she went to visit a friend of hers 593 00:51:46,481 --> 00:51:47,732 who had a chimp. 594 00:51:50,026 --> 00:51:54,739 And she got in the enclosure with an adult male chimp. 595 00:51:59,911 --> 00:52:03,957 He was so sweet through the cage. But as soon as I went in there, 596 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,042 I mean, I didn't even get a chance to sit down. 597 00:52:07,043 --> 00:52:10,839 He was mauling me. It was kinda like Charla Nash. 598 00:52:14,342 --> 00:52:16,136 I have a couple questions. 599 00:52:16,219 --> 00:52:17,804 -Okay. -Can you see that bandage 600 00:52:17,887 --> 00:52:19,180 on my ear? 601 00:52:20,682 --> 00:52:22,726 Okay, 'cause it's pretty big, so. 602 00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:26,604 And it's white, so, you know, it pretty much sticks out pretty hard. 603 00:52:28,982 --> 00:52:29,941 No. 604 00:52:30,775 --> 00:52:34,612 No. No. That's-- No. 605 00:52:34,696 --> 00:52:38,700 Everything's fine. It is, it's great. Great, great, great. 606 00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:42,370 Great. 607 00:52:45,498 --> 00:52:49,669 I think I startled him, and I think he just 608 00:52:49,753 --> 00:52:51,171 kinda lost it a little bit. 609 00:52:52,088 --> 00:52:54,299 And I just turned away from him 610 00:52:54,382 --> 00:52:57,135 because I didn't want my face to be attacked 611 00:52:57,218 --> 00:52:59,179 because he got my finger. 612 00:53:01,598 --> 00:53:05,226 That's how my arm got dislocated. It just got pulled out of socket. 613 00:53:09,022 --> 00:53:11,733 I got 'em on my legs, I got one right here. 614 00:53:11,816 --> 00:53:16,821 Just a little bit on my legs, and mainly this hand, and that's it. 615 00:53:16,905 --> 00:53:18,573 And the ear, and that's it. 616 00:53:23,244 --> 00:53:26,247 He took a tip of the ear off. Just a piece. 617 00:53:29,209 --> 00:53:34,089 And so, once the owner got him to retort, 618 00:53:34,172 --> 00:53:36,883 I just had to leave. I just had to get out of there, 619 00:53:36,966 --> 00:53:39,719 and I had to go to the hospital. 620 00:53:42,555 --> 00:53:47,727 Well, I wanted my ear to be salvaged, and so I had to go to the hospital. 621 00:53:49,896 --> 00:53:50,939 So, I did. 622 00:53:54,484 --> 00:53:57,862 Every time I go to sleep, I have nightmares over the situation. 623 00:54:03,243 --> 00:54:08,540 But ask me today if I would own a chimp 624 00:54:08,623 --> 00:54:12,669 or if I'd own a baboon, of if I'd own a capuchin, 625 00:54:12,752 --> 00:54:16,840 or if I'd own any kind of primate that could potentially do that to me. 626 00:54:16,923 --> 00:54:18,425 100%, yes. 627 00:54:21,928 --> 00:54:24,014 In fact, I came up with a new idea. 628 00:54:24,931 --> 00:54:26,725 There's a new island for sale here, 629 00:54:26,808 --> 00:54:30,145 and it's a very famous island here at the lake. 630 00:54:30,228 --> 00:54:33,606 I want to sell the zoo and buy that island. 631 00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:38,820 I want to get some chimps, or get some orangutans, 632 00:54:38,903 --> 00:54:42,532 or I'd take a gorilla, even, and just let 'em be free. 633 00:54:45,326 --> 00:54:47,328 I'm gonna do the same thing Save the Chimps does, 634 00:54:47,412 --> 00:54:50,540 except I'm gonna live with them, among them. 635 00:54:54,461 --> 00:54:56,713 We're all gonna cohabitate together. 636 00:54:58,673 --> 00:55:00,300 You know, if they wanna do art, 637 00:55:00,383 --> 00:55:02,969 or if they wanna come into the house and eat lunch, 638 00:55:03,053 --> 00:55:04,763 they can come in the house and eat lunch. 639 00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:09,851 I would name it "Tonka Safari". 640 00:55:10,602 --> 00:55:13,021 I want to dedicate anything to him. 641 00:55:15,648 --> 00:55:19,778 I just want to live in-- I don't know, just with chimps. 642 00:55:19,861 --> 00:55:22,238 And then that's it. End of story.