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[Joey] Hello.

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- [Woman] Joey.
- [Joey] Hello.

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- [Woman] Joey!
- [Joey] Hey, how are you?

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[Man] Calm down, calm down.

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[Man] <i>Hey, Chris, [indistinct]</i>

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[hysterical screaming]

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[tapping on glass]

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[Man] Stay away
from the elevator.

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[Girl screaming]

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[Chris] Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.

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I told you
this is gonna be crazy.

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<i>♪ Yeah</i>

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<i>♪ So tell me what to do now</i>

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<i>♪ 'Cause I, I, I
I, I, I want you back ♪</i>

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[Lance] <i>In all of Europe,</i>

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<i>there was this thing
called boy band.</i>

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<i>We never even heard
that term yet.</i>

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Proudly, we're like, "Yes,
we're a boy band."

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And then we slowly like,
"Oh, wait, that's a bad thing."

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<i>♪ You're my sunshine after
the rain ♪</i>

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Well, the term "boy band"
was one

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that we were very hesitant
to embrace early on.

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We never thought of ourselves
as a boy band,

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at least
in the conventional sense.

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<i>♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh</i>

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[Donnie] <i>I love boy bands.</i>

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<i>I'm proud to say
I'm in a boy band.</i>

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I fight for boy bands.
I stick up for boy bands.

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I love touring with boy bands.

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[Lyndsey] <i>What is a boy band?
It's a weird term.</i>

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A lot of bands
that are called boy bands

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aren't bands in the true sense.

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They don't play instruments,
they dance.

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They're more from
that Motown tradition

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of The Temptations,
the Four Tops.

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<i>And then there were some that
are actual full-on bands</i>

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<i>like Jonas Brothers or Hanson.</i>

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[Taylor] <i>We weren't
put together.</i>

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<i>We were made together, right?</i>

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In the same womb.

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It's gross, actually.
[brothers grimacing]

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<i>♪ Candy girl, you are my world</i>

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[Man] <i>We've seen so many stories</i>

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<i>about boy bands.</i>

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This is about the evolution.

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It formulates who you are
at such an important age.

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<i>♪ All you people can't you see
can't you see ♪</i>

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The rivalry is what
made it huge.

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Just this nonstop battle.

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When you think it can't
get bigger, it gets bigger.

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<i>♪ 'Cause I, I
I'm in the stars tonight ♪</i>

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K-pop really is the center
of the boy band universe

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at this moment in time.

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[Lance] <i>I'm sure they looked at</i>

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<i>what happened in
Orlando, Florida,</i>

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but took it to the next level.

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If I state the obvious,

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everything that's happening
in our lives,

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<i>none of it will be possible
without our fans.</i>

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[Yve] <i>The boy band is something</i>

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<i>that only can exist in response</i>

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the wishes of teenage girls.

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When you're in a boy band,

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the main subject is the girl.

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<i>And you're saying things
to the girl,</i>

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<i>"I wanna be with you.
I wanna hold your hand.</i>

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<i>Quit playing games
with my heart."</i>

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<i>They're singing
straight to the girls.</i>

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We would not be who we are
without the fans.

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The power has always been
in the young girl.

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[Man] <i>It was the dynamic
of the little girls</i>

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<i>that created
every boy band in existence.</i>

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[Ed] <i>Ladies and gentlemen,</i>

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<i>The Beatles.</i>

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<i>♪ She loves you
yeah, yeah, yeah ♪</i>

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<i>♪ She loves you
yeah, yeah, yeah ♪</i>

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[Debbie] <i>I will never forget
the feeling,</i>

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the excitement,

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how magical it was,

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when Ed Sullivan
introduced them.

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[Woman] <i>The Beatles,
who are considered</i>

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<i>the original boy band,</i>

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<i>were in the mid '50s.</i>

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[Brian] <i>I heard about them
through a lad</i>

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<i>who was asking
for a record by them</i>

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<i>in one of my stores.</i>

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The Beatles were then
just four lads

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on that rather dimly-lit stage.

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<i>I was immediately struck
by their music, their beat,</i>

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<i>their sense of humor,
actually, on stage.</i>

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And even afterwards,
when I met them,

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I was struck again
by their personal charm.

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[Woman] <i>He approached them,
offered to be their manager.</i>

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<i>He had no management experience.</i>

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[Vivek] <i>He believed that,
if marketed and presented,</i>

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and done in the right way,

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The Beatles
could be bigger than Elvis.

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<i>♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Cryin' all the time ♪</i>

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[Man] <i>Elvis showed the world</i>

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<i>what passionate fandom
could look like.</i>

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[Yve] <i>With Elvis, you have
this one guy</i>

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<i>you can like.</i>

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<i>But then The Beatles come out</i>

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<i>and, suddenly, you have
an option of four Elvis-es.</i>

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<i>You have four different
archetypes.</i>

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<i>You can express your identity</i>

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<i>by deciding which one it is
that you like the most.</i>

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[Man] <i>He really believed
that each individual member</i>

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<i>had something special
and encouraged that,</i>

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<i>and saw how different they were,</i>

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<i>but how, when they
came together,</i>

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<i>they created something special</i>

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<i>that was so much bigger
than the sum of the parts.</i>

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[Debbie] <i>Beatle mania was
that's what it was.</i>

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It was Beatle and it was mania.

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You ever been this crazy about
any other entertainer?

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No. And that's what's
so amazing.

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<i>We don't know why
we're like this.</i>

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I think they're sharp.

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Ringo has a sexy nose.

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[Debbie] <i>Girls, fans,
discovered The Beatles.</i>

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It's flattering.
It's nice to think

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that people enjoy
either what you're doing

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or the things you say.

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It's a good feeling.

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[Woman] <i>And then, of course,
all the merch started happening.</i>

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<i>People were buying
Beatle wigs and Beatle dolls</i>

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<i>and Beatle wristwatches.</i>

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<i>They stopped touring</i>

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<i>because of the exhaustion</i>

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<i>of the sheer intensity
of this fandom.</i>

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[Michael] <i>The Beatles deserve
all the credit in the world</i>

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because they gave birth
to so many boy band groups

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over the years.

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The modern definition
of the boy band,

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you guys really started,
I'd say.

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Not really.

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We came after New Edition.

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So, for us, they're really
the real blueprint

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of the modern-day boy band.

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The New Kids called us
the original boy band?

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They keep it real.

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<i>My name is Michael L. Bivins.</i>

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<i>That's B, as in Boston,</i>

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<i>I, V, as in Victor, I, N, S.</i>

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When New Edition started,

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our inspirations
were LTD,

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<i>The Whispers.</i>

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<i>We did Heatwave.</i>

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<i>♪ 'Cause boogie nights are
always the best in town ♪</i>

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And a lot of Jackson 5.

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<i>♪ A, B, C Easy as 1, 2, 3</i>

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<i>♪ Or simple as Do-Re-Mi</i>

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[Suzanne] <i>I first met
the Jackson 5</i>

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<i>when I had gone
to work at Motown.</i>

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<i>And one of the artists,
Bobby Taylor,</i>

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<i>he said, "There is something
you really need to see."</i>

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<i>So I went to his apartment</i>

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and there, across
his living room,

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were these kids.

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<i>They got up and they sang
four songs a cappella.</i>

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<i>And I was blown away.</i>

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<i>They were adorable.
They were talented.</i>

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<i>And Berry Gordy described as
the sound of young America.</i>

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Not "white American,"
not "black America"

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but "America, young America."

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<i>He put the entire machinery
of Motown behind him.</i>

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The way Berry Gordy would
train his groups

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was like the Ford assembly line.

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<i>They had four number-one records
in a row.</i>

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Stop The Love You Save,

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I Want You Back,
ABC, <i>and</i> I'll Be There.

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[Tina] <i>And spanned
different age groups</i>

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so the different girls
across the country

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could identify
with which one they liked.

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<i>Was it Michael, was it Jermaine,</i>

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<i>was it Tito?</i>

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But Michael
was the heart and soul.

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[Suzanne] <i>It was the first time
that young black kids</i>

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<i>really had their version
of Beatle mania.</i>

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<i>Once we're coming down
the stairs</i>

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<i>of the airplane at a dead run</i>

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<i>of 300 kids.</i>

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<i>And, literally, we had to dive</i>

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<i>into the limo.</i>

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We had decoy limousines

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and we'd leave in a panel truck.

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And they'd still find us.

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As a young person,
musical groups

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were a big deal.

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<i>Jackson 5 came up and then
there were The Osmonds.</i>

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<i>♪ One bad apple don't
Spoil the whole bunch, girl ♪</i>

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They came out with
a number-one record first.

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And then I don't remember how
many months later.

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We came out with <i>One Bad Apple.</i>

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[Suzanne] <i>This record comes out,
this song,</i>

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and everybody stops
'cause they think it's them.

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But it's called <i>One Bad Apple</i>

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by The Osmonds.

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And a hush fell over Jerusalem
in the car.

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[Donny] One Bad Apple,

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<i>our first number-one record,</i>

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<i>was written for the Jackson 5.</i>

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<i>And they had turned it down,
from what I understand.</i>

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<i>We got the song.</i>

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And we got
the number-one record out first.

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So I think they probably said,

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"Damn, we should've got
<i>One Bad Apple."</i>

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<i>Started singing when I was four,
but professionally at five.</i>

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<i>So by the time The Osmond mania,</i>

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<i>as they called it,
took place in 1970,</i>

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I been in the business
a long time.

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<i>The first show, we were dressed
in these Elvis type outfits.</i>

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<i>We have no idea
what's about to happen.</i>

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It was this moment.

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Blackout.

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<i>We run on stage,</i>

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<i>massive screams
are taking place.</i>

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<i>I think to myself,
as I look out,</i>

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somebody's hurt.

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They're screaming that
something's happened out there.

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And then I realize,

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"They're screaming for us."

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<i>It was like, "You've gotta
be kidding me.</i>

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<i>I gotta do this
the rest of my life."</i>

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<i>This was the beginning
of the popularity</i>

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<i>of The Osmonds as a boy band.</i>

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<i>I would come
to the edge of the stage</i>

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<i>and reach my hand down.</i>

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<i>Couple of girls
would grab my wrist.</i>

232
00:10:10,164 --> 00:10:11,532
<i>And as soon as my brother, Alan,</i>

233
00:10:11,632 --> 00:10:12,667
<i>saw what was happening,</i>

234
00:10:12,767 --> 00:10:14,736
he would grab me and pull.

235
00:10:15,203 --> 00:10:17,005
Two things went through my head.

236
00:10:17,505 --> 00:10:19,107
"Alan, save me.

237
00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,942
Alan, let me go."

238
00:10:22,176 --> 00:10:25,579
<i>I wanted so badly to have them
pull me in the audience</i>

239
00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,682
and just rip me apart.

240
00:10:29,517 --> 00:10:32,086
[Michael] <i>The Osmonds,
the Jacksons,</i>

241
00:10:32,687 --> 00:10:35,724
those were the groups
we looked up to, coming up.

242
00:10:35,824 --> 00:10:37,892
That's the evolution
of New Edition.

243
00:10:37,992 --> 00:10:39,861
When you talk about boy bands

244
00:10:39,961 --> 00:10:41,129
and where they originated,

245
00:10:41,229 --> 00:10:42,764
of course you could say
The Beatles,

246
00:10:42,864 --> 00:10:45,066
of course you could say
the Jacksons,

247
00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:46,367
and then The Osmonds,

248
00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:49,503
but, for me, it's New Edition,
without a doubt.

249
00:10:49,838 --> 00:10:51,472
<i>♪ Ronnie, Bobby Ricky and Mike*</i>

250
00:10:51,572 --> 00:10:53,808
<i>♪ If I love the girl
who cares who you like ♪</i>

251
00:10:53,908 --> 00:10:56,144
<i>♪ Cool it now</i>

252
00:10:56,244 --> 00:10:59,213
[Johnny] <i>I was the DJ of
Cape Cod at that point in time.</i>

253
00:10:59,313 --> 00:11:01,282
<i>Fifteen minutes
on the right side of 11:00.</i>

254
00:11:01,382 --> 00:11:02,751
<i>Time check it, if you will.</i>

255
00:11:02,851 --> 00:11:04,018
<i>I'm Johnny Wright here,</i>

256
00:11:04,118 --> 00:11:07,221
<i>the conductor
of this musical ride.</i>

257
00:11:08,857 --> 00:11:10,191
Then, all of a sudden,
one night,

258
00:11:10,291 --> 00:11:11,860
the phone rings in the station

259
00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,594
and it's Maurice Starr.

260
00:11:15,196 --> 00:11:16,898
<i>And he says to me,</i>

261
00:11:16,998 --> 00:11:19,133
<i>"I'm looking for 10 investors</i>

262
00:11:19,233 --> 00:11:21,469
<i>to invest $1,500 a piece,</i>

263
00:11:21,569 --> 00:11:23,938
and I'm gonna have
a talent show in Boston.

264
00:11:24,038 --> 00:11:26,074
And the winner
of that talent show,

265
00:11:26,174 --> 00:11:28,309
the money is gonna be used
to record a record."

266
00:11:28,409 --> 00:11:30,378
And that was interesting to me.

267
00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,515
[Michael] <i>The Hollywood
talent night,</i>

268
00:11:34,615 --> 00:11:35,784
<i>I'll never forget it.</i>

269
00:11:36,117 --> 00:11:40,321
<i>1978, we wanted to be
in talent shows</i>

270
00:11:40,421 --> 00:11:41,990
<i>to get the girls to scream</i>

271
00:11:42,090 --> 00:11:43,257
<i>and to get money,</i>

272
00:11:43,357 --> 00:11:45,960
and to be popular
right there in the projects.

273
00:11:46,494 --> 00:11:50,932
<i>In Boston, there was 82 groups.</i>

274
00:11:51,032 --> 00:11:54,202
<i>We went on at 2:00.
We were number 15.</i>

275
00:11:54,302 --> 00:11:57,105
That show went on till 11:30
at night.

276
00:11:57,205 --> 00:12:00,108
And we lost.
We came in second place.

277
00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:04,112
<i>But Maurice said,
"You know what?</i>

278
00:12:04,212 --> 00:12:05,980
I'm still gonna give you guys

279
00:12:06,514 --> 00:12:09,083
the recording contract
to make the demo."

280
00:12:09,183 --> 00:12:11,219
<i>He allowed us to come in
second place</i>

281
00:12:11,319 --> 00:12:13,121
<i>and turned us into winners.</i>

282
00:12:18,059 --> 00:12:19,928
<i>Our first single,</i> Candy Girl,

283
00:12:20,028 --> 00:12:22,797
<i>is what I refer to as a monster.</i>

284
00:12:22,897 --> 00:12:24,432
When you can come out the gate

285
00:12:24,532 --> 00:12:27,101
and blow it out the water,
it's huge.

286
00:12:27,201 --> 00:12:29,237
Their latest single
on the Streetwise label

287
00:12:29,337 --> 00:12:32,673
entitled <i>Candy Girl,</i>
New Edition.

288
00:12:33,474 --> 00:12:37,812
[Michael] <i>It was Ralph Tresvant,
myself, Bobby Brown,</i>

289
00:12:37,912 --> 00:12:40,381
<i>Ronnie DeVoe, and Ricky Bell.</i>

290
00:12:41,015 --> 00:12:44,785
<i>Our inspiration
was the Jackson 5.</i>

291
00:12:45,887 --> 00:12:50,658
<i>But Maurice Starr added a twist
to the boy band.</i>

292
00:12:50,758 --> 00:12:52,160
He put the rap in there.

293
00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:54,495
<i>♪ She walks so fast
she looks so sweet ♪</i>

294
00:12:54,595 --> 00:12:56,965
<i>♪ She makes my heart
actually skip a beat ♪</i>

295
00:12:57,065 --> 00:12:59,067
Then you got <i>Mr Telephone Man.</i>

296
00:12:59,167 --> 00:13:01,369
<i>♪ Mr. Telephone man</i>

297
00:13:01,836 --> 00:13:04,205
<i>♪ There's something wrong
with my line ♪</i>

298
00:13:04,672 --> 00:13:07,008
[Michael] <i>Now with Bobby Brown
as the lead,</i>

299
00:13:07,508 --> 00:13:11,379
we knew each song
would have a different voice.

300
00:13:12,313 --> 00:13:14,916
<i>We wanted to make sure
each member had a role.</i>

301
00:13:15,016 --> 00:13:16,350
<i>Are you smiling?</i>

302
00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:18,887
<i>Are you doing
the pelvic thrust like Bobby?</i>

303
00:13:18,987 --> 00:13:21,122
<i>Or are you pop locking
like Ralph?</i>

304
00:13:21,222 --> 00:13:23,757
Or Ricky, tipping your hat?

305
00:13:24,325 --> 00:13:26,360
<i>Who are you as an individual?</i>

306
00:13:27,828 --> 00:13:29,063
[Woman] <i>All of their videos</i>

307
00:13:29,163 --> 00:13:32,700
<i>were targeted towards teen
and tween girls.</i>

308
00:13:33,467 --> 00:13:34,735
<i>They knew exactly
what they were doing.</i>

309
00:13:34,835 --> 00:13:35,904
<i>Maurice Star genius.</i>

310
00:13:36,004 --> 00:13:38,339
I'm the man to get the job done.

311
00:13:38,439 --> 00:13:40,909
Unfortunately, in this business,

312
00:13:41,009 --> 00:13:42,743
the contracts have to be right.

313
00:13:43,477 --> 00:13:45,746
<i>And your first contract
is never gonna be in your favor.</i>

314
00:13:45,846 --> 00:13:47,348
[Michael] <i>When we separated
from Maurice,</i>

315
00:13:47,448 --> 00:13:49,317
we had some things
we had to work out.

316
00:13:49,417 --> 00:13:51,119
It was very hurtful.
I quit the business

317
00:13:51,219 --> 00:13:52,553
for about two weeks.

318
00:13:52,653 --> 00:13:54,655
And I said to myself
after two weeks,

319
00:13:54,755 --> 00:13:57,191
"I'm not a quitter.

320
00:13:57,291 --> 00:13:59,227
So let's get up
and get this thing going.

321
00:13:59,327 --> 00:14:02,230
Now I'm gonna put five
of them white kids together."

322
00:14:03,497 --> 00:14:06,467
They are
what The Beatles were to us.

323
00:14:06,734 --> 00:14:08,436
New Kids on the Block!

324
00:14:09,003 --> 00:14:12,206
<i>♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh</i>

325
00:14:13,741 --> 00:14:16,010
The New Kids experience,
I think, was something

326
00:14:16,110 --> 00:14:17,912
that not a lot of people
really saw coming.

327
00:14:19,113 --> 00:14:20,381
<i>These five white dudes,</i>

328
00:14:20,481 --> 00:14:23,384
<i>mix in R&B
and a little bit or hip-hop.</i>

329
00:14:24,185 --> 00:14:25,553
[Donnie] <i>When New Kids
were formed,</i>

330
00:14:25,653 --> 00:14:29,557
Maurice Starr was looking
for anybody

331
00:14:31,025 --> 00:14:32,726
that could sing, dance, and rap.

332
00:14:32,826 --> 00:14:36,064
Maurice almost got arrested
for driving around schools,

333
00:14:36,164 --> 00:14:37,831
looking for young white kids.

334
00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:39,767
<i>I love break dancing.</i>

335
00:14:39,867 --> 00:14:41,235
<i>I love rapping, Run DMC.</i>

336
00:14:41,335 --> 00:14:42,670
<i>♪ It's Tricky to rock a rhyme</i>

337
00:14:42,770 --> 00:14:44,638
<i>♪ To rock a rhyme
that's right on time ♪</i>

338
00:14:44,738 --> 00:14:45,706
<i>♪ It's Tricky</i>

339
00:14:45,806 --> 00:14:47,608
[Donnie] <i>It was New Edition,
Run DMC,</i>

340
00:14:47,708 --> 00:14:48,809
that was my thing.

341
00:14:48,909 --> 00:14:51,379
And when I met Maurice,
I was the perfect guy

342
00:14:51,479 --> 00:14:53,847
in the perfect place
at the perfect time.

343
00:14:54,915 --> 00:14:57,385
<i>Maurice probably saved my life.</i>

344
00:14:57,952 --> 00:15:00,254
<i>I was bus to school in Boston</i>

345
00:15:00,621 --> 00:15:03,191
one block from where
New Edition grew up

346
00:15:03,291 --> 00:15:04,425
in Orchard Park.

347
00:15:04,525 --> 00:15:06,294
And when I would go to school,

348
00:15:06,394 --> 00:15:07,528
I would look out
the school window

349
00:15:07,628 --> 00:15:09,830
and I could see
where they lived.

350
00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:11,632
These famous guys from Boston

351
00:15:11,732 --> 00:15:12,766
lived right there.

352
00:15:12,866 --> 00:15:16,704
And they made anything
seem possible to me.

353
00:15:16,804 --> 00:15:19,040
And, literally, within
a year of that,

354
00:15:19,140 --> 00:15:21,175
I was meeting
their former producer,

355
00:15:21,275 --> 00:15:23,044
Maurice Starr, and creating

356
00:15:23,144 --> 00:15:24,878
the New Kids on the Block
together.

357
00:15:24,979 --> 00:15:27,348
<i>My brother, Mark, was originally</i>

358
00:15:27,448 --> 00:15:29,650
<i>the only other member
of New Kids with me</i>

359
00:15:29,750 --> 00:15:30,818
<i>in my boy band.</i>

360
00:15:30,918 --> 00:15:33,221
<i>When he left, I brought in
my friends.</i>

361
00:15:33,321 --> 00:15:35,389
<i>Jordan Knight,
Jonathan Knight, Danny Wood,</i>

362
00:15:35,489 --> 00:15:36,557
<i>were my schoolmates.</i>

363
00:15:36,657 --> 00:15:38,126
We all went to school together

364
00:15:38,226 --> 00:15:39,627
from 6th grade on up.

365
00:15:39,727 --> 00:15:42,030
And Donnie was the first one
to get in the group

366
00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:45,066
- and he brought us all together.
- [Man] <i>Brought you all together.</i>

367
00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:47,301
Archetypes in boy bands,
it's hilarious.

368
00:15:47,401 --> 00:15:51,905
And it's really New Kids
that started that.

369
00:15:52,006 --> 00:15:54,142
Donnie was the bad boy.

370
00:15:54,408 --> 00:15:56,477
<i>Jordan was the matinée idol.</i>

371
00:15:56,577 --> 00:15:59,147
<i>Danny was the workout
sports kid.</i>

372
00:15:59,247 --> 00:16:01,349
<i>Jon was the sensitive kid.</i>

373
00:16:01,449 --> 00:16:02,983
And you have that
in Backstreet Boys

374
00:16:03,084 --> 00:16:04,318
and you have that in NSYNC.

375
00:16:04,752 --> 00:16:06,754
[Lance] <i>Justin was
the young heartthrob.</i>

376
00:16:06,854 --> 00:16:08,756
<i>Chris was the crazy one.</i>

377
00:16:09,423 --> 00:16:11,459
I was the shy one.

378
00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:13,361
And then you read it
so many times,

379
00:16:13,461 --> 00:16:16,730
you just started falling
into that trope.

380
00:16:16,830 --> 00:16:18,332
<i>And then you started
feeling like,</i>

381
00:16:18,432 --> 00:16:20,368
"Well, this isn't me,
but this is what people want."

382
00:16:21,069 --> 00:16:24,205
[Lyndsey] <i>And that's because all
us girls have a different type.</i>

383
00:16:24,305 --> 00:16:25,973
Some of us
just want the eye candy.

384
00:16:26,074 --> 00:16:28,776
<i>Some of us want the one you can
have a deep conversation with.</i>

385
00:16:28,876 --> 00:16:31,345
<i>Some of us want the one
that'll make us laugh.</i>

386
00:16:32,213 --> 00:16:34,748
[AJ] <i>And I was the "bad boy."</i>

387
00:16:34,848 --> 00:16:36,517
Yeah, I'm the biggest pushover
in the world.

388
00:16:36,617 --> 00:16:38,852
I have not a bad bone
in my body.

389
00:16:38,952 --> 00:16:40,288
[Donnie] <i>No, I don't think</i>

390
00:16:40,388 --> 00:16:41,855
<i>I was ever a bad boy.</i>

391
00:16:41,955 --> 00:16:43,091
<i>I'm good.</i>

392
00:16:43,191 --> 00:16:46,294
It was just really trying
to find myself

393
00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:49,897
and deal with all the fame
and craziness,

394
00:16:49,997 --> 00:16:53,634
but also stick up
for myself and my friends.

395
00:16:54,268 --> 00:16:55,903
[Johnny] <i>And then
sometimes you had</i>

396
00:16:56,003 --> 00:16:59,407
the little Donny Osmond,
Michael Jackson type.

397
00:17:00,274 --> 00:17:03,043
We need a Michael Jackson,
Donny Osmond type little guy

398
00:17:03,144 --> 00:17:04,312
policing and just--

399
00:17:04,412 --> 00:17:06,180
Because the crowd
really responds to that

400
00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,648
and we found Joey.

401
00:17:08,182 --> 00:17:11,352
Joey McIntyre had that sound
and it was just great.

402
00:17:11,452 --> 00:17:13,954
[Donnie] <i>We decided,
"Let's get a young guy."</i>

403
00:17:14,054 --> 00:17:16,424
<i>And that was a group decision
with Maurice.</i>

404
00:17:16,524 --> 00:17:18,659
Joey McIntyre was a godsend.

405
00:17:20,194 --> 00:17:21,562
[Maurice] <i>So, from there,</i>

406
00:17:21,662 --> 00:17:24,932
<i>I went to every major label
with New Kids,</i>

407
00:17:25,499 --> 00:17:26,900
<i>but they just didn't get it.</i>

408
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,703
They're like, "Ah, they're
a bunch of kids, no talent."

409
00:17:29,803 --> 00:17:31,472
<i>They told me to get out
of the building,</i>

410
00:17:31,572 --> 00:17:32,806
<i>don't come back.</i>

411
00:17:32,906 --> 00:17:35,409
We played in prisons,
high schools,

412
00:17:35,509 --> 00:17:38,078
birthday parties, parks.

413
00:17:38,179 --> 00:17:39,313
<i>And we played in ballrooms</i>

414
00:17:39,413 --> 00:17:40,614
<i>that we were too young to be in.</i>

415
00:17:40,714 --> 00:17:41,915
<i>We played everywhere.</i>

416
00:17:42,015 --> 00:17:43,251
So I said, "Hmm, let me go,

417
00:17:43,351 --> 00:17:44,818
instead of through
the back door,

418
00:17:44,918 --> 00:17:46,154
through the black door."

419
00:17:46,954 --> 00:17:50,023
<i>So New Kids were signed to
the African-American division</i>

420
00:17:50,124 --> 00:17:51,359
<i>of CBS.</i>

421
00:17:51,892 --> 00:17:53,427
[Woman] How do you feel about
being dubbed,

422
00:17:53,527 --> 00:17:55,996
"A white New Edition,"
or "The Osmond Four"?

423
00:17:56,096 --> 00:17:57,298
We're not The White New Edition.

424
00:17:57,398 --> 00:17:58,999
We're not The Osmonds.

425
00:17:59,099 --> 00:18:00,634
We're the New Kids on the Block.

426
00:18:01,735 --> 00:18:04,572
And the first album flopped.

427
00:18:05,038 --> 00:18:08,509
I think this concept of people
hearing the New Kids,

428
00:18:08,609 --> 00:18:10,778
thinking it's New Edition
or the Jackson,

429
00:18:10,878 --> 00:18:13,614
<i>and then seeing
these Irish kids pop up,</i>

430
00:18:13,714 --> 00:18:16,650
that was a strategy
in the old days.

431
00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:19,387
And I think
the record company tried it.

432
00:18:19,487 --> 00:18:20,921
<i>I think it didn't work.</i>

433
00:18:21,021 --> 00:18:24,725
[Johnny] <i>But their second album
started to take off.</i>

434
00:18:26,594 --> 00:18:29,930
And <i>The Right Stuff</i> became
that big dance record.

435
00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:32,132
<i>♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh</i>

436
00:18:32,233 --> 00:18:33,967
<i>♪ The right stuff</i>

437
00:18:34,067 --> 00:18:38,206
<i>♪ First time was a great time
Second time was a blast ♪</i>

438
00:18:38,306 --> 00:18:42,310
<i>♪ Third time I fell in love
Now I hope it lasts ♪</i>

439
00:18:42,410 --> 00:18:46,447
<i>♪ You got the right stuff baby</i>

440
00:18:47,415 --> 00:18:48,716
[Donnie] <i>We got really lucky.</i>

441
00:18:48,816 --> 00:18:51,352
<i>A DJ took a chance on us
and played our record.</i>

442
00:18:51,452 --> 00:18:53,487
<i>And it found its audience.</i>

443
00:18:53,587 --> 00:18:56,190
<i>And that's what made it go.</i>

444
00:18:56,924 --> 00:18:59,092
I was, technically,
the tour manager.

445
00:19:01,462 --> 00:19:03,397
<i>So then Maurice called me
and said,</i>

446
00:19:03,497 --> 00:19:04,932
<i>"Hey, we have this opportunity</i>

447
00:19:05,032 --> 00:19:07,435
to work
with this pop girl, Tiffany,

448
00:19:08,402 --> 00:19:10,103
<i>as her opening act."</i>

449
00:19:11,305 --> 00:19:12,940
[Tiffany] <i>I'm Tiffany.</i>

450
00:19:13,641 --> 00:19:16,043
I sing a song called
<i>I Think We're Alone Now.</i>

451
00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:18,812
<i>♪ I think we're alone now ♪</i>

452
00:19:18,912 --> 00:19:22,450
<i>♪ There doesn't seem to be
anyone around ♪</i>

453
00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:25,853
And I'm known as
the Pop Princess from the Malls.

454
00:19:26,420 --> 00:19:29,423
[Donnie] <i>Much like the one DJ
who played our record,</i>

455
00:19:29,523 --> 00:19:32,293
we were very fortunate
that Tiffany,

456
00:19:32,393 --> 00:19:35,329
herself, personally,
advocated for us

457
00:19:35,429 --> 00:19:36,597
to be her opening act.

458
00:19:36,697 --> 00:19:38,899
<i>Suddenly, we walked out
and they saw us.</i>

459
00:19:39,367 --> 00:19:41,835
Nobody knew
what was gonna happen.

460
00:19:41,935 --> 00:19:43,003
Nobody knew.

461
00:19:43,103 --> 00:19:46,640
<i>♪ My favorite girl
Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪</i>

462
00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:49,243
<i>♪ She's my favorite girl</i>

463
00:19:51,211 --> 00:19:53,647
The teen twin bill
of the summer has hit town.

464
00:19:53,747 --> 00:19:55,783
Tiffany
and New Kids on the Block.

465
00:19:55,883 --> 00:19:58,586
[screaming]

466
00:19:58,686 --> 00:20:00,954
[Tiffany] <i>I started
hanging out with Jonathan.</i>

467
00:20:03,156 --> 00:20:06,126
<i>But it produced a little bit
of a rift</i>

468
00:20:06,226 --> 00:20:09,663
because a lot of my female fans

469
00:20:09,763 --> 00:20:12,500
wanted to you know,
be with him.

470
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,034
[Girl] <i>He has me.</i>

471
00:20:14,134 --> 00:20:16,737
One of these days,
we're gonna get together.

472
00:20:17,738 --> 00:20:20,541
[Johnny] <i>So they're
opening act of her tour.</i>

473
00:20:20,641 --> 00:20:22,109
<i>And the DJ said,</i>

474
00:20:22,209 --> 00:20:24,378
"Are you ready for
New Kids on the Block?"

475
00:20:24,478 --> 00:20:26,179
And the place went crazy.

476
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,449
And then they're like,
"Are you ready for Tiffany?"

477
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:32,119
And all of a sudden, you could
start to hear boos in the crowd.

478
00:20:32,219 --> 00:20:34,254
And we're like, "Wait,
what's going on here?"

479
00:20:34,355 --> 00:20:35,923
[crowd booing]

480
00:20:36,023 --> 00:20:37,525
[Tiffany] <i>When we would be
on tour,</i>

481
00:20:37,625 --> 00:20:39,527
<i>the fans are screaming,
yelling at me,</i>

482
00:20:39,627 --> 00:20:41,495
<i>calling me names,
pulled my hair.</i>

483
00:20:41,595 --> 00:20:43,964
[crowd booing]

484
00:20:44,064 --> 00:20:45,666
<i>I was shocked.</i>

485
00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:48,235
<i>The girls were very tough.</i>

486
00:20:49,337 --> 00:20:51,939
[Johnny] <i>So Tiffany ended up
becoming the opening act</i>

487
00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:54,074
of her own tour.
[crowd cheering hysterically]

488
00:20:54,174 --> 00:20:57,010
<i>And New Kids on the Block
were the headliners.</i>

489
00:21:01,415 --> 00:21:04,685
I came to MTV around 1986.

490
00:21:04,785 --> 00:21:08,489
It was mostly random
music video rotations.

491
00:21:08,589 --> 00:21:10,157
And then the videos they liked,

492
00:21:10,257 --> 00:21:11,792
we ran 50 times a week.

493
00:21:12,192 --> 00:21:16,063
The fans were most insane
for New Kids on the Block.

494
00:21:16,163 --> 00:21:18,198
New Kids on the Block
are awesome. I love them.

495
00:21:18,298 --> 00:21:19,533
They're great dancers.

496
00:21:19,633 --> 00:21:21,702
I thought it was the best thing
I ever saw, ever.

497
00:21:22,703 --> 00:21:26,239
The fanbase for a boy band
is crazy.

498
00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:28,676
[screaming piercingly]
I love Donnie Wahlberg!

499
00:21:29,810 --> 00:21:31,111
[Yve] <i>What is a fangirl?</i>

500
00:21:31,945 --> 00:21:33,481
Well, according
to the dictionary,

501
00:21:33,581 --> 00:21:34,882
the Merriam Webster dictionary,

502
00:21:34,982 --> 00:21:37,685
a fangirl is a girl or woman

503
00:21:37,785 --> 00:21:42,322
who is an extremely
or "overly-enthusiastic" fan

504
00:21:42,423 --> 00:21:44,157
of someone or something.

505
00:21:44,257 --> 00:21:46,960
They just have so much style.
They have a lot of charisma.

506
00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:50,898
Great bodies, great faces,
just everything.

507
00:21:51,899 --> 00:21:54,802
It means to love something
without fear or apology.

508
00:21:54,902 --> 00:21:56,604
[Woman] <i>The tweens
and the early teens,</i>

509
00:21:56,704 --> 00:21:58,739
it's a really special time

510
00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:01,775
because most girls don't have
a boyfriend yet.

511
00:22:02,376 --> 00:22:05,413
<i>And their boyfriend
is often the person</i>

512
00:22:05,513 --> 00:22:07,080
<i>that sings their favorite song.</i>

513
00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:08,682
You're a really great guy,
Donnie.

514
00:22:08,782 --> 00:22:10,818
You care for your fans
and you're really understanding,

515
00:22:10,918 --> 00:22:12,920
and I'd love to meet you
one day, hopefully soon.

516
00:22:14,755 --> 00:22:17,558
People have such
a misconstrued idea

517
00:22:17,658 --> 00:22:21,128
of what it means
to be a fan of something.

518
00:22:21,929 --> 00:22:23,731
[Lance] <i>It is the first time
that they experience</i>

519
00:22:23,831 --> 00:22:25,433
<i>what is the meaning of love,</i>

520
00:22:25,533 --> 00:22:27,801
crushes, attraction.

521
00:22:27,901 --> 00:22:29,803
Kevin, I love you!

522
00:22:30,671 --> 00:22:32,473
[Yve] <i>That's what
boy bands offer them,</i>

523
00:22:32,573 --> 00:22:36,309
our first chance
to suffer our first crush.

524
00:22:36,410 --> 00:22:38,812
For all the girls out there,
you can attack me.

525
00:22:38,912 --> 00:22:41,582
They are the most
successful piece

526
00:22:41,682 --> 00:22:44,051
in the common thread
from The Beatles

527
00:22:44,418 --> 00:22:45,719
<i>all the way to K-pop.</i>

528
00:22:45,819 --> 00:22:47,555
<i>Because, without the young girl,</i>

529
00:22:47,655 --> 00:22:50,624
<i>there's no scream,
there's no audience,</i>

530
00:22:50,724 --> 00:22:52,693
<i>there's really no poster.</i>

531
00:22:52,793 --> 00:22:55,463
<i>Their lyrics don't have no one
to sing to.</i>

532
00:22:55,563 --> 00:22:57,030
If that's the only price
we have to pay

533
00:22:57,130 --> 00:22:59,667
is having girls chase us
around the streets,

534
00:22:59,767 --> 00:23:02,736
then I'll pay that price
for another 10 years.

535
00:23:02,836 --> 00:23:06,073
I was there
and it was a phenomena.

536
00:23:06,173 --> 00:23:08,609
We questioned whether
we really deserved

537
00:23:08,709 --> 00:23:10,544
this level of success.

538
00:23:10,644 --> 00:23:12,846
You're comparing us
to The Beatles?

539
00:23:13,413 --> 00:23:15,849
We're just a boy band.

540
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:17,918
After just two weeks,
they've got

541
00:23:18,018 --> 00:23:19,352
the number-one album
in the country,

542
00:23:19,453 --> 00:23:20,654
the number-one single,

543
00:23:20,754 --> 00:23:22,490
and the hottest video
in the country too.

544
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:26,994
<i>♪ Step by step, ooh, baby</i>

545
00:23:27,094 --> 00:23:30,998
<i>♪ Gonna get to you, girl</i>

546
00:23:32,065 --> 00:23:33,834
[John] <i>With
the</i> Step by Step <i>album,</i>

547
00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:36,003
<i>these guys
were like a money train.</i>

548
00:23:36,737 --> 00:23:37,905
[Maurice] Step by Step,
<i>around the world,</i>

549
00:23:38,005 --> 00:23:40,007
<i>sold about six million-plus
records.</i>

550
00:23:40,107 --> 00:23:42,142
Just that song, that single.

551
00:23:42,242 --> 00:23:43,977
<i>♪ Step by step</i>

552
00:23:47,948 --> 00:23:51,251
[Johnny] <i>At that point
in time, we were hawking thing.</i>

553
00:23:51,985 --> 00:23:53,253
<i>So I would go,
"Hey, don't forget</i>

554
00:23:53,353 --> 00:23:54,955
<i>that, at the stands out there,
we got</i>

555
00:23:55,055 --> 00:23:57,257
brand-new New Kids on the Block
merchandise."

556
00:23:58,125 --> 00:23:59,960
And then there was
the 900 numbers

557
00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:02,796
where they were charging
$2 a minute.

558
00:24:03,130 --> 00:24:05,332
Hi, [all] we're the New Kids
on the Block.

559
00:24:05,432 --> 00:24:07,334
Now you can hang tough with us
24 hours a day

560
00:24:07,434 --> 00:24:08,569
on our brand-new hotline.

561
00:24:08,669 --> 00:24:10,103
Just pick up your phone
and call.

562
00:24:11,071 --> 00:24:12,773
[Johnny] <i>And in the first year
that they were doing that,</i>

563
00:24:12,873 --> 00:24:14,742
we had two million phone calls.

564
00:24:14,842 --> 00:24:16,977
And so
they're making a ton of money.

565
00:24:18,111 --> 00:24:20,548
[Maurice] <i>I never thought
it was too much product.</i>

566
00:24:20,648 --> 00:24:22,516
<i>I was sitting back, thanking God</i>

567
00:24:22,616 --> 00:24:24,885
that these millions
were flowing in.

568
00:24:26,286 --> 00:24:29,957
[Johnny] <i>Eventually, I think
they were just burnt out.</i>

569
00:24:30,057 --> 00:24:31,959
<i>It was not about
the music anymore.</i>

570
00:24:32,059 --> 00:24:34,227
<i>It was about the marketing</i>

571
00:24:34,494 --> 00:24:35,663
<i>and they didn't like that.</i>

572
00:24:35,763 --> 00:24:37,831
[Donnie] <i>The success was so much</i>

573
00:24:37,931 --> 00:24:40,868
and we were grateful for it,

574
00:24:40,968 --> 00:24:43,103
and we also struggled with it,

575
00:24:43,737 --> 00:24:45,606
<i>having people
constantly screaming</i>

576
00:24:45,706 --> 00:24:47,007
<i>and yelling,</i>

577
00:24:47,107 --> 00:24:49,376
<i>and people carrying
my luggage for me,</i>

578
00:24:49,476 --> 00:24:51,044
<i>and turning on
a light switch for me.</i>

579
00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:52,546
<i>When all of it stopped,</i>

580
00:24:52,646 --> 00:24:54,514
I looked in the mirror
at myself.

581
00:24:55,315 --> 00:24:58,552
And I saw Donnie Wahlberg
at 18 looking back.

582
00:24:59,219 --> 00:25:01,889
I hadn't grown in a lot of ways.

583
00:25:01,989 --> 00:25:03,190
<i>At some point,</i>

584
00:25:03,290 --> 00:25:06,526
<i>we just needed to grow
as human beings.</i>

585
00:25:12,032 --> 00:25:15,135
[Tina] <i>In the meantime,
this guy, Lou Pearlman,</i>

586
00:25:15,235 --> 00:25:17,871
<i>who is cousins
with Art Garfunkel,</i>

587
00:25:17,971 --> 00:25:21,008
had a plane business
called Transcontinental.

588
00:25:22,109 --> 00:25:24,244
[Donnie] <i>One day a week,
we would charter a plane</i>

589
00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:25,345
<i>and fly home</i>

590
00:25:25,445 --> 00:25:27,114
<i>'cause we missed
being home in Boston,</i>

591
00:25:27,214 --> 00:25:29,883
and allegedly we chartered
a plane

592
00:25:29,983 --> 00:25:32,753
that belonged
to this guy, Lou Pearlman,

593
00:25:32,853 --> 00:25:34,988
and he said, "Wow, who are
these teenagers

594
00:25:35,088 --> 00:25:36,356
chartering my plane?

595
00:25:36,456 --> 00:25:37,424
How can they afford this?"

596
00:25:37,524 --> 00:25:40,560
And he said, "Oh, wow, I wanna
do that,"

597
00:25:40,661 --> 00:25:41,962
allegedly.

598
00:25:42,395 --> 00:25:44,564
I don't even know
if he owned the airplane.

599
00:25:45,465 --> 00:25:47,134
[Johnny] <i>People kept saying
to me,</i>

600
00:25:47,234 --> 00:25:48,802
<i>"There's this guy, Lou Pearlman,</i>

601
00:25:48,902 --> 00:25:50,771
<i>that's trying
to get in touch with you."</i>

602
00:25:50,871 --> 00:25:52,606
And I'm like, "For what?"

603
00:25:52,706 --> 00:25:53,907
And they go, "He's got
a boy band

604
00:25:54,007 --> 00:25:55,475
that he wants
to talk to you about."

605
00:25:57,277 --> 00:26:00,313
<i>♪ Backstreet's back, alright!</i>

606
00:26:04,084 --> 00:26:05,719
[Johnny] <i>Orlando, Florida,</i>

607
00:26:05,819 --> 00:26:07,154
<i>we called it Motown,</i>

608
00:26:07,254 --> 00:26:09,422
was, and still is to this day,

609
00:26:09,522 --> 00:26:12,292
the United States
boy band capital of the world.

610
00:26:13,126 --> 00:26:16,596
[Tina] <i>Back then, a lot
of talented kids</i>

611
00:26:16,697 --> 00:26:18,265
<i>went to Orlando,</i>

612
00:26:18,365 --> 00:26:20,968
<i>trying to get cast
at different studios.</i>

613
00:26:21,601 --> 00:26:24,104
And so Orlando just had a lot

614
00:26:24,204 --> 00:26:25,973
of artists who were there.

615
00:26:27,507 --> 00:26:30,243
Backstreet Boys
were very much put together

616
00:26:30,343 --> 00:26:34,782
by this enterprising sort
by the name of Lou Pearlman.

617
00:26:35,382 --> 00:26:37,217
- Good morning.
- [Man] <i>How you doing, Louey?</i>

618
00:26:37,317 --> 00:26:39,019
Out there in Orlando,
he started doing

619
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,353
audition after audition

620
00:26:40,453 --> 00:26:44,024
and AJ was the first one
to get picked

621
00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:46,159
for Backstreet Boys.

622
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:48,696
There was a thing in Orlando
called the blue sheet./

623
00:26:48,796 --> 00:26:51,264
which was the classifieds

624
00:26:51,364 --> 00:26:54,067
for anyone
in the entertainment circuit.

625
00:26:54,567 --> 00:26:56,804
<i>I saw this headline and I
asked my mom</i>

626
00:26:56,904 --> 00:26:58,371
<i>if I could go for the audition.</i>

627
00:26:58,471 --> 00:26:59,406
<i>She's like, "Sure,"</i>

628
00:26:59,506 --> 00:27:00,540
and it was simple.

629
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,809
Lou signed me on the spot

630
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:03,276
and that was it.

631
00:27:04,712 --> 00:27:07,480
Then we started generating
a bunch of auditions.

632
00:27:08,215 --> 00:27:11,084
<i>Next, Lou hired Howard Dorough.</i>

633
00:27:11,184 --> 00:27:14,521
<i>Before Backstreet Boys,
he went under a stage name,</i>

634
00:27:14,621 --> 00:27:15,989
<i>Tony Dinetti.</i>

635
00:27:16,089 --> 00:27:19,526
He looks about as Italian
as I look I don't know what.

636
00:27:20,761 --> 00:27:22,696
<i>Then Nick auditioned.</i>

637
00:27:22,796 --> 00:27:24,131
<i>He was 12.</i>

638
00:27:24,231 --> 00:27:25,866
<i>Nick had a contract,
potentially,</i>

639
00:27:25,966 --> 00:27:27,200
<i>for</i> The Mickey Mouse Club.

640
00:27:27,634 --> 00:27:29,803
<i>His mom asked him,
"You wanna do this</i>

641
00:27:29,903 --> 00:27:31,604
<i>$75,000 contract</i>

642
00:27:31,705 --> 00:27:35,475
or take a chance on this group
that might go nowhere?"

643
00:27:36,109 --> 00:27:37,711
Nicky made the right decision.

644
00:27:38,145 --> 00:27:39,479
Hey, what's up?

645
00:27:39,579 --> 00:27:40,914
<i>And then we got Kevin.</i>

646
00:27:41,148 --> 00:27:42,816
<i>Kevin was working at Disney.</i>

647
00:27:43,884 --> 00:27:46,286
[Barry] <i>Kevin Richardson was
the oldest guy in the group.</i>

648
00:27:47,087 --> 00:27:48,388
He was the "business guy."

649
00:27:48,989 --> 00:27:50,724
[AJ] <i>And then we tried
to find a fifth,</i>

650
00:27:50,824 --> 00:27:53,393
and Kevin kept talking about
this cousin he's got.

651
00:27:54,127 --> 00:27:56,696
<i>Brian was at junior high school.</i>

652
00:27:57,097 --> 00:27:58,498
He's like, "Hey, y'all.
I'm Brian Littrell.

653
00:27:58,598 --> 00:27:59,800
I'm Kevin's cousin."

654
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,401
I was like, "Oh, good God,
man, really?"

655
00:28:01,501 --> 00:28:06,439
[indistinct]

656
00:28:06,539 --> 00:28:09,076
Two weeks later, we did
Grad Nite '93

657
00:28:09,176 --> 00:28:10,343
at Sea World.

658
00:28:10,443 --> 00:28:13,947
<i>♪ Tell me that I'm dreamin'</i>

659
00:28:14,047 --> 00:28:15,148
It just clicked.

660
00:28:15,816 --> 00:28:18,585
[Man] <i>Mr. Lou Pearlman,
the man who started it all.</i>

661
00:28:18,685 --> 00:28:20,187
<i>Onward and upward.</i>

662
00:28:20,687 --> 00:28:23,957
Lou was a businessman,
entrepreneur first.

663
00:28:24,057 --> 00:28:26,659
Not a manager, doesn't know
the music business,

664
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,195
which is why he hired Johnny.

665
00:28:28,295 --> 00:28:29,496
[Man] <i>Right back at ya, babe.</i>

666
00:28:29,596 --> 00:28:30,663
Go right back at ya.

667
00:28:30,764 --> 00:28:32,299
[Man] <i>Johnny, yeah, got ya.</i>

668
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:35,168
[Johnny] <i>I was the tour manager
for New Kids on the Block.</i>

669
00:28:35,268 --> 00:28:37,537
<i>And Lou Pearlman called me,</i>

670
00:28:37,637 --> 00:28:40,640
so I ended up taking
a meeting with him

671
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:42,509
at an Italian restaurant.

672
00:28:44,011 --> 00:28:46,613
<i>And this table was set up
for 14 people</i>

673
00:28:46,713 --> 00:28:49,616
<i>and he was sitting on the end
of it like The Godfather.</i>

674
00:28:50,951 --> 00:28:53,653
All of a sudden, these five guys
come walking in the room.

675
00:28:55,055 --> 00:28:56,623
<i>And they're singing.</i>

676
00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:59,226
<i>And it was the Backstreet Boys.</i>

677
00:28:59,326 --> 00:29:01,728
And the rest is history.

678
00:29:02,462 --> 00:29:05,098
[Man] we have five
very popular new guys here.

679
00:29:05,198 --> 00:29:06,900
It's called the Backstreet Boys.

680
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,501
Brand-new group.

681
00:29:09,436 --> 00:29:11,939
And then we connected
with Clive Calder

682
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:13,506
who owned Jive Records.

683
00:29:14,274 --> 00:29:17,210
Clive Calder, he said,
"There's a huge void

684
00:29:17,310 --> 00:29:18,979
for boy bands in America."

685
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:20,814
And I was like, "Really?"

686
00:29:21,514 --> 00:29:22,950
<i>And he said, "These guys
are really good, though.</i>

687
00:29:23,050 --> 00:29:24,651
<i>These guys could really sing."</i>

688
00:29:25,352 --> 00:29:27,955
But at the time, the stock
and trade of America

689
00:29:28,055 --> 00:29:29,256
was all about Nirvana and rap.

690
00:29:29,356 --> 00:29:31,825
<i>♪ One, two, three
and to the fo' ♪</i>

691
00:29:31,925 --> 00:29:34,394
<i>♪ Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre
is at the do' ♪</i>

692
00:29:34,494 --> 00:29:38,765
<i>♪ Hey, wait
I got a new complaint ♪</i>

693
00:29:38,866 --> 00:29:41,401
<i>♪ Evenflow</i>

694
00:29:42,169 --> 00:29:45,705
[AJ] <i>You had Pearl Jam,
Nirvana, Snoop, Dre.</i>

695
00:29:46,173 --> 00:29:49,376
We don't fit anywhere in that
at all.

696
00:29:50,810 --> 00:29:54,314
[John] <i>So there's an audience
for young guys,</i>

697
00:29:54,882 --> 00:29:56,649
but a younger female audience

698
00:29:56,749 --> 00:29:59,386
wasn't really being served
in the early '90s.

699
00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:01,221
[Barry] <i>So we said,
"You know what?</i>

700
00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:02,856
<i>Let's take a shot.
Let's do this."</i>

701
00:30:02,956 --> 00:30:05,558
And signed the Backstreet Boys.

702
00:30:09,062 --> 00:30:10,964
[AJ] <i>After we got signed
to Jive,</i>

703
00:30:11,331 --> 00:30:13,133
<i>we met Max Martin</i>

704
00:30:13,233 --> 00:30:14,834
<i>who would, in turn, become</i>

705
00:30:14,935 --> 00:30:17,104
<i>a staple
of the Backstreet sound.</i>

706
00:30:18,038 --> 00:30:20,307
<i>Max with like '80s hairband,</i>

707
00:30:20,573 --> 00:30:22,742
his hair was down past his ass.

708
00:30:22,842 --> 00:30:24,011
We're looking at this guy like,

709
00:30:24,111 --> 00:30:25,913
"He's gonna do pop music?
Really?"

710
00:30:26,613 --> 00:30:28,916
<i>But Max created this sound
with us</i>

711
00:30:29,016 --> 00:30:31,018
that was completely different.

712
00:30:31,318 --> 00:30:33,120
That [imitates buzzing]

713
00:30:34,087 --> 00:30:36,023
<i>♪ Jam 'cause
Backstreet's got it ♪</i>

714
00:30:36,123 --> 00:30:37,958
<i>♪ Come now everybody</i>

715
00:30:38,058 --> 00:30:42,362
<i>♪ We've go it goin' on
for years ♪</i>

716
00:30:45,632 --> 00:30:50,370
[Johnny] <i>But Backstreet Boys
couldn't get a hit in the US.</i>

717
00:30:51,038 --> 00:30:53,340
So the label
was gonna drop them.

718
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,075
And so I said, "Look,

719
00:30:55,175 --> 00:30:57,377
right now boy bands
are big in Germany.

720
00:30:57,477 --> 00:30:58,946
Let's send them over there."

721
00:30:59,980 --> 00:31:03,283
[John] <i>In Europe, there was
Boyzone and there was Westlife</i>

722
00:31:03,383 --> 00:31:05,052
<i>and there was East 17,</i>

723
00:31:05,152 --> 00:31:07,120
<i>and all these other boy bands,</i>

724
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,223
and the most notable one
would be Take That.

725
00:31:10,323 --> 00:31:12,492
<i>♪ Want you back, want you back</i>

726
00:31:12,592 --> 00:31:15,262
<i>♪ I want you back for good</i>

727
00:31:15,362 --> 00:31:17,697
[John] <i>Absolutely dominating
UK music</i>

728
00:31:17,797 --> 00:31:21,368
<i>from the early '90s
through '95, '96.</i>

729
00:31:23,971 --> 00:31:26,639
[AJ] <i>So the label
shipped us over</i>

730
00:31:26,739 --> 00:31:29,009
<i>to the German, Austria,
Switzerland area,</i>

731
00:31:29,109 --> 00:31:31,644
and we did a bunch
of radio shows

732
00:31:31,744 --> 00:31:33,013
and all these festivals.

733
00:31:33,113 --> 00:31:36,049
<i>We were the first American group
to come over to Europe</i>

734
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:39,186
<i>and they just slapped
this word on us,</i>

735
00:31:39,286 --> 00:31:40,954
"Oh, it's a new boy band."

736
00:31:41,054 --> 00:31:43,256
[audience cheering hysterically]

737
00:31:43,356 --> 00:31:44,557
<i>But what we noticed was</i>

738
00:31:44,657 --> 00:31:46,994
<i>the groups over there
were lip-syncing</i>

739
00:31:47,094 --> 00:31:48,628
<i>to their music.</i>

740
00:31:48,728 --> 00:31:51,965
They never sang live.
They couldn't do a cappella.

741
00:31:52,332 --> 00:31:53,766
And we did.

742
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:57,404
[Johnny] <i>So one time,
I went to Backstreet Boys</i>

743
00:31:57,504 --> 00:31:59,406
and I said, "Go out there

744
00:31:59,506 --> 00:32:01,841
and just sing a cappella style."

745
00:32:02,942 --> 00:32:07,114
<i>♪ Everybody groove
to the music ♪</i>

746
00:32:07,214 --> 00:32:10,350
<i>♪ Everybody jam</i>

747
00:32:12,185 --> 00:32:13,720
All of a sudden, the mouths
of that audience

748
00:32:13,820 --> 00:32:17,557
just dropped like, "What?
These guys can really sing?"

749
00:32:18,458 --> 00:32:21,194
It was a very massive
turning point

750
00:32:21,294 --> 00:32:23,763
<i>for the industry to go,
"These boys can sing."</i>

751
00:32:23,863 --> 00:32:26,733
<i>♪ We've go it goin' on</i>

752
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:29,569
[crowd screaming hysterically]

753
00:32:30,137 --> 00:32:31,371
[Johnny] We've Got It Goin' On

754
00:32:31,471 --> 00:32:34,307
<i>was starting to move up
to the charts in Europe.</i>

755
00:32:35,742 --> 00:32:38,678
<i>And one time we came out
to get on our bus</i>

756
00:32:38,778 --> 00:32:42,382
<i>and there had to be 600
or 700 kids there.</i>

757
00:32:42,482 --> 00:32:44,251
<i>And they're jumping
all over the bus,</i>

758
00:32:44,351 --> 00:32:47,120
<i>and that's finally when
you knew like,</i>

759
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:49,389
"All right, we're on
to something here."

760
00:32:54,027 --> 00:32:58,531
[AJ] <i>And then, out of nowhere,
Hanson came out.</i>

761
00:32:58,965 --> 00:33:00,367
They blew up with <i>MMMBop.</i>

762
00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:05,205
<i>♪ Yeah, yeah
Mmmbop, ba duba dop ba ♪</i>

763
00:33:05,305 --> 00:33:07,040
MMMBop <i>comes out of nowhere,</i>

764
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:08,441
<i>in the</i> Middle of Nowhere

765
00:33:08,541 --> 00:33:09,476
<i>being the name of the record,
ironically,</i>

766
00:33:09,576 --> 00:33:10,810
<i>and it becomes number one.</i>

767
00:33:10,910 --> 00:33:12,245
Yes, we did it!

768
00:33:12,345 --> 00:33:13,646
[Zac] <i>We were guys
with long, blonde hair</i>

769
00:33:13,746 --> 00:33:15,982
that looked like they were
dressed like Nirvana,

770
00:33:16,083 --> 00:33:17,517
but they're playing Jackson 5.

771
00:33:17,617 --> 00:33:21,188
<i>♪ Where's the love? Give it up</i>

772
00:33:21,288 --> 00:33:22,422
[Steve] <i>I saw them perform.</i>

773
00:33:22,522 --> 00:33:23,690
I said to them on the spot,

774
00:33:23,790 --> 00:33:25,858
"I really wanna sign you
and make a record."

775
00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:29,296
<i>I just felt like there was
this desire</i>

776
00:33:29,396 --> 00:33:31,198
<i>for exactly this thing.</i>

777
00:33:31,298 --> 00:33:33,933
<i>Grunge was so now-oriented.</i>

778
00:33:34,033 --> 00:33:35,335
<i>It was music for dudes.</i>

779
00:33:35,435 --> 00:33:38,605
<i>And I felt like there was
nothing for girls</i>

780
00:33:38,705 --> 00:33:40,507
<i>to really get excited about</i>

781
00:33:40,607 --> 00:33:41,841
<i>in pop music at that moment.</i>

782
00:33:41,941 --> 00:33:43,710
We got them together
with the Dust Brothers

783
00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:45,578
who were hot producers
at the time.

784
00:33:45,678 --> 00:33:47,914
<i>They had just produced
Beck's</i> Odelay <i>album.</i>

785
00:33:48,014 --> 00:33:50,950
[Taylor] <i>The Dust Brothers
had this culture around them</i>

786
00:33:51,050 --> 00:33:52,652
<i>of being DJs, being rip mixers,</i>

787
00:33:52,752 --> 00:33:54,487
<i>really loving
those '70s records,</i>

788
00:33:54,587 --> 00:33:57,824
<i>loving those pop records,
loving those Motown records.</i>

789
00:33:57,924 --> 00:33:59,292
<i>We had a common bond.</i>

790
00:33:59,392 --> 00:34:02,362
[AJ] <i>Once Hanson
broke through the mold,</i>

791
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:04,897
they opened up the door.

792
00:34:04,997 --> 00:34:07,033
<i>♪ Yo, I'll tell you what I want
what I really, really want ♪</i>

793
00:34:07,134 --> 00:34:09,236
<i>♪ So tell me what you want, what
you really, really want ♪</i>

794
00:34:10,270 --> 00:34:13,005
[Johnny] <i>Then Spice Girls came
and wrote</i> Wannabe.

795
00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:17,410
So I was like, "Hey, boys,
it's time to come home."

796
00:34:20,747 --> 00:34:23,116
[AJ] <i>So we came back to the US</i>

797
00:34:23,716 --> 00:34:27,687
and released our single,
<i>Quit Playing Games.</i>

798
00:34:32,259 --> 00:34:33,493
<i>Quit Playing Games
(with My Heart)</i>

799
00:34:33,593 --> 00:34:35,162
exploded off of the album.

800
00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:37,497
<i>And that became
their first real American hit.</i>

801
00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:41,134
<i>♪ Quit playing games
with my heart ♪</i>

802
00:34:41,668 --> 00:34:43,136
<i>♪ With my heart</i>

803
00:34:43,603 --> 00:34:46,038
They get their first
big MTV hit.

804
00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:47,874
<i>♪ Baby, baby!</i>

805
00:34:47,974 --> 00:34:51,411
<i>♪ The love that we had
was so strong ♪</i>

806
00:34:51,511 --> 00:34:55,648
They're all writhing and sexual.

807
00:34:56,549 --> 00:34:58,151
<i>Getting all soaking wet.</i>

808
00:34:58,251 --> 00:35:02,722
<i>♪ This is not right
Let's stop this tonight ♪</i>

809
00:35:02,822 --> 00:35:05,825
We love our boy banders
soaking wet.

810
00:35:07,860 --> 00:35:11,097
While we're on set, I was like,
"This is interesting."

811
00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:13,500
Howie was all nip nip.

812
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,936
<i>♪ Quit playing games
with my heart ♪</i>

813
00:35:18,371 --> 00:35:22,442
At MTV, we had
really violent debates

814
00:35:22,542 --> 00:35:24,177
about what to play.

815
00:35:26,179 --> 00:35:29,949
It definitely didn't feel
like my kind of music.

816
00:35:30,049 --> 00:35:35,622
But it felt like a genre that we
have got to take notice of.

817
00:35:36,723 --> 00:35:39,025
In our generation,
you put out your first album,

818
00:35:39,125 --> 00:35:40,893
it does good, cool.

819
00:35:41,794 --> 00:35:43,263
<i>But your second album</i>

820
00:35:43,363 --> 00:35:45,932
<i>is the one that's gonna make
or break your career.</i>

821
00:35:46,533 --> 00:35:47,800
<i>Ours was</i> Millennium.

822
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:49,236
[Girl] <i>We can't wait
to run into the store</i>

823
00:35:49,336 --> 00:35:50,337
and go get <i>Millennium.</i>

824
00:35:50,437 --> 00:35:51,838
It's gonna be the best CD ever.

825
00:35:55,141 --> 00:35:57,610
We love BSB!

826
00:35:58,545 --> 00:36:02,282
[AJ] <i>But it wasn't really until
we then released</i>

827
00:36:02,382 --> 00:36:03,650
<i>from the</i> Millennium <i>album</i>

828
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:06,219
<i>the single for</i>
I Want It That Way

829
00:36:06,686 --> 00:36:09,956
that everything changed.

830
00:36:13,226 --> 00:36:15,027
<i>♪ Yeah-eh-eh</i>

831
00:36:15,995 --> 00:36:20,500
[John] <i>The single greatest
boy band song of all time.</i>

832
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,070
The masterpiece that is
<i>I Want It That Way.</i>

833
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:28,107
<i>♪ I Want It That Way</i>

834
00:36:28,207 --> 00:36:32,979
<i>♪ Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a heartache ♪</i>

835
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:34,781
<i>♪ Tell me why
Ain't nothing but a mistake ♪</i>

836
00:36:34,881 --> 00:36:36,616
[Brittany]
<i>That video is so iconic,</i>

837
00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:39,486
the glowing white shirts
and the airplane hangar

838
00:36:39,586 --> 00:36:41,554
and all the fans
screaming for them.

839
00:36:42,955 --> 00:36:45,492
<i>Essentially,
a reference to The Beatles</i>

840
00:36:45,758 --> 00:36:46,893
<i>with the fans screaming</i>

841
00:36:46,993 --> 00:36:48,861
<i>and seeing them
get off the plane.</i>

842
00:36:51,197 --> 00:36:52,799
[John] <i>People, they analyze
its lyrics</i>

843
00:36:52,899 --> 00:36:55,668
and people don't really
understand what it's saying.

844
00:36:55,768 --> 00:36:58,805
<i>♪ I never wanna hear you say</i>

845
00:36:58,905 --> 00:37:02,108
"I never wanna hear you say
I want it that way."

846
00:37:02,809 --> 00:37:04,611
See, exactly.
You're like, "What?"

847
00:37:05,878 --> 00:37:08,214
<i>So they felt, "This song
doesn't make any sense.</i>

848
00:37:08,315 --> 00:37:09,749
<i>This isn't gonna go anywhere.</i>

849
00:37:10,182 --> 00:37:13,019
So we then, we wrote it,
so it made sense.

850
00:37:14,053 --> 00:37:17,123
[John] <i>And that was "I love it
when I hear you say</i>

851
00:37:17,223 --> 00:37:18,691
<i>I want it that way."</i>

852
00:37:18,791 --> 00:37:20,727
<i>And the group didn't like it.</i>

853
00:37:20,827 --> 00:37:23,863
We're just like,
"It just doesn't hit right."

854
00:37:24,397 --> 00:37:26,333
So they put their faith in us

855
00:37:26,433 --> 00:37:28,735
that we made the right call
and we made the right call.

856
00:37:28,835 --> 00:37:33,506
<i>♪ 'Cause I want it that way</i>

857
00:37:33,606 --> 00:37:37,143
We were 100% wrong.
They were 100% right.

858
00:37:38,411 --> 00:37:39,679
<i>The Backstreet Boys, they were</i>

859
00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:41,681
<i>the masters
of their own destiny.</i>

860
00:37:42,849 --> 00:37:44,484
[Johnny] <i>But the next thing
you know,</i>

861
00:37:44,584 --> 00:37:47,019
<i>I kept hearing rumblings
from Orlando</i>

862
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,222
that someone else
had another boy band.

863
00:37:51,758 --> 00:37:54,727
<i>♪ Bye, bye, bye (Bye, bye)</i>

864
00:37:58,097 --> 00:38:02,268
[Chris] <i>Before NSYNC, way back
in the very beginning,</i>

865
00:38:02,369 --> 00:38:04,036
I lived in Orlando, Florida.

866
00:38:04,971 --> 00:38:08,708
<i>I was in music class
with this kid, Howie Dorough.</i>

867
00:38:08,808 --> 00:38:11,978
And I remember him talking about
he just auditioned

868
00:38:12,078 --> 00:38:13,746
for this band,
the Backstreet Boys.

869
00:38:14,647 --> 00:38:17,350
[Johnny] <i>So then
Chris Kirkpatrick decides</i>

870
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:19,386
to audition for Backstreet Boys.

871
00:38:19,686 --> 00:38:21,721
<i>But he didn't make it.</i>

872
00:38:22,288 --> 00:38:23,856
[Lance] <i>So Howie makes it</i>

873
00:38:23,956 --> 00:38:27,293
<i>And Chris Kirkpatrick who was
working at Universal at the tie</i>

874
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,228
<i>singing and performing.</i>

875
00:38:29,328 --> 00:38:31,531
He's like, "Well, I can sing
just as good as Howie.

876
00:38:31,631 --> 00:38:33,500
I'm gonna start a group myself."

877
00:38:33,966 --> 00:38:36,135
<i>So that's when he called
Lou Pearlman and said,</i>

878
00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:37,770
"Hey, would you back us

879
00:38:37,870 --> 00:38:39,005
if I put a group together?"

880
00:38:39,105 --> 00:38:41,708
And Lou said, "Sure,
let's do this."

881
00:38:41,808 --> 00:38:43,976
There's a lot going around
that I auditioned

882
00:38:44,076 --> 00:38:45,578
for the Backstreet Boys
and didn't make it,

883
00:38:45,678 --> 00:38:48,214
but that is definitely not true.

884
00:38:50,082 --> 00:38:52,819
<i>I was introduced to Lou
and he's like,</i>

885
00:38:52,919 --> 00:38:56,155
"McDonald's works
and Burger King works.

886
00:38:56,689 --> 00:38:58,491
They're the same thing,
but they're different.

887
00:38:58,591 --> 00:38:59,759
There's room for two."

888
00:38:59,859 --> 00:39:02,161
So he said, "I wanna start
another band."

889
00:39:02,261 --> 00:39:04,063
And I was like, "Awesome."

890
00:39:04,997 --> 00:39:06,098
<i>Good evening,
ladies and gentlemen,</i>

891
00:39:06,198 --> 00:39:08,000
<i>my name is
Justin Randall Timberlake</i>

892
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,202
<i>and I'm from
Millington, Tennessee.</i>

893
00:39:11,438 --> 00:39:14,641
[Lance] <i>So Chris Kirkpatrick,
he called Justin Timberlake.</i>

894
00:39:15,074 --> 00:39:17,009
And Justin said, "Look,
I would love to do this,

895
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:18,778
but I'm working with
this guy, JC,

896
00:39:18,878 --> 00:39:20,179
<i>who I did</i>
The Mickey Mouse Club <i>with</i>

897
00:39:20,279 --> 00:39:21,848
<i>and we're having a really fun
time at the studio.</i>

898
00:39:21,948 --> 00:39:23,315
Can he join the group?"

899
00:39:23,416 --> 00:39:24,651
And Chris is like, "Sure."

900
00:39:24,751 --> 00:39:27,086
Then we were out one night
and ran into Joey.

901
00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:29,889
JC was like, "Oh, I went
to school with him.

902
00:39:30,523 --> 00:39:33,392
<i>And Chris Kirkpatrick works
at Universal Studios with him."</i>

903
00:39:34,861 --> 00:39:37,096
So we brought Joey
into the band.

904
00:39:38,665 --> 00:39:41,434
I was 16 when I got the call.

905
00:39:43,369 --> 00:39:45,171
<i>They were looking
for a bass singer.</i>

906
00:39:45,271 --> 00:39:47,607
<i>And Justin said, "Oh,
I'll call my vocal coach,</i>

907
00:39:47,707 --> 00:39:49,308
<i>and I bet you
he'll know someone."</i>

908
00:39:49,776 --> 00:39:51,077
And he said, "Yeah,
the perfect guy

909
00:39:51,177 --> 00:39:54,113
is Lance Bass, but his mom
will never let him do it."

910
00:39:55,482 --> 00:39:57,784
Which I also would've thought.

911
00:39:58,818 --> 00:40:01,320
<i>Justin and his mother call me,</i>

912
00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:02,889
and I had heard of Justin's name

913
00:40:02,989 --> 00:40:04,691
<i>because I loved</i>
The Mickey Mouse Club.

914
00:40:04,791 --> 00:40:06,192
- Justin.
- JC.

915
00:40:06,292 --> 00:40:07,527
- Britney.
- Ryan.

916
00:40:07,627 --> 00:40:09,228
Christina.

917
00:40:09,328 --> 00:40:13,299
All of these kids became a part
of the new <i>Mickey Mouse Club.</i>

918
00:40:14,467 --> 00:40:17,870
[Lance] <i>So I'm like,
"Well, let's go try it out."</i>

919
00:40:21,808 --> 00:40:23,910
<i>I got to Orlando.</i>

920
00:40:24,811 --> 00:40:26,813
<i>They put me up in a Rolls Royce</i>

921
00:40:26,913 --> 00:40:29,181
<i>and I just thought that was
the coolest thing.</i>

922
00:40:29,281 --> 00:40:31,250
I went to the house
the guys were living in

923
00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:34,787
and immediately you just felt
that connection.

924
00:40:36,823 --> 00:40:38,591
<i>Those first few months</i>

925
00:40:38,691 --> 00:40:40,627
<i>we all lived
in a house together.</i>

926
00:40:40,727 --> 00:40:41,961
[Chris] <i>I was poor,</i>

927
00:40:42,061 --> 00:40:43,563
so I was like, "Yeah,
I'll live in the house.

928
00:40:43,663 --> 00:40:45,097
<i>Whatever happens with this,</i>

929
00:40:45,197 --> 00:40:46,933
<i>I'll get free rent
for a couple months, I'm in."</i>

930
00:40:47,033 --> 00:40:49,836
<i>And we recorded
everything we did.</i>

931
00:40:49,936 --> 00:40:51,604
[Lance] <i>I had to learn
very quickly</i>

932
00:40:51,704 --> 00:40:53,640
how to have better rhythm,

933
00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:55,407
how to move
a little differently.

934
00:40:56,475 --> 00:40:57,710
<i>I was embarrassed. I'm like,</i>

935
00:40:57,810 --> 00:40:59,245
<i>"They're gonna kick me out
of this group</i>

936
00:40:59,345 --> 00:41:00,747
because I can't dance."

937
00:41:00,847 --> 00:41:02,448
I didn't know we were gonna be
a dancing group,

938
00:41:02,549 --> 00:41:04,016
but here we are.

939
00:41:04,450 --> 00:41:05,785
- Hello.
- How's it going?

940
00:41:05,885 --> 00:41:07,587
- Welcome in.
- How are you?

941
00:41:07,687 --> 00:41:09,488
- I'm Jim.
- Johnny Wright.

942
00:41:10,222 --> 00:41:12,959
[Lance] <i>But it wasn't until
Johnny came on board</i>

943
00:41:13,059 --> 00:41:15,695
that things
really started happening.

944
00:41:16,328 --> 00:41:17,864
[Chris] <i>Lou said, "Hey, listen.</i>

945
00:41:17,964 --> 00:41:20,166
<i>I'm gonna to bring in
somebody now</i>

946
00:41:20,266 --> 00:41:22,535
that I know that can take you
to the next level.

947
00:41:22,635 --> 00:41:24,637
<i>Johnny's taken New Kids.</i>

948
00:41:24,737 --> 00:41:26,405
<i>He's taken Backstreet.</i>

949
00:41:26,505 --> 00:41:27,807
<i>HE's been around all this,</i>

950
00:41:27,907 --> 00:41:29,942
<i>so he knows the deal."</i>

951
00:41:30,643 --> 00:41:31,844
[Johnny] <i>At the same time,</i>

952
00:41:31,944 --> 00:41:33,412
<i>Jan Boltz, who was
the president of BMG</i>

953
00:41:33,512 --> 00:41:36,816
<i>in Germany who had represented
Backstreet Boys,</i>

954
00:41:36,916 --> 00:41:39,586
said, "If you have any
other acts in the US

955
00:41:39,686 --> 00:41:40,953
that are as good as them,

956
00:41:41,053 --> 00:41:43,022
let me know and I'll sign them."

957
00:41:43,923 --> 00:41:45,792
<i>So I flew into Orlando to see</i>

958
00:41:45,892 --> 00:41:48,160
<i>this new boy band, NSYNC.</i>

959
00:41:48,928 --> 00:41:50,997
And I'm not expecting
anything great.

960
00:41:52,364 --> 00:41:54,934
<i>And I see
these five guys perform.</i>

961
00:41:56,102 --> 00:41:59,138
And, bang, my mouth dropped.

962
00:42:00,773 --> 00:42:02,408
<i>And Jan Boltz goes,</i>

963
00:42:02,508 --> 00:42:04,476
<i>"I'll sign the band,
but I don't know."</i>

964
00:42:04,577 --> 00:42:07,947
<i>He goes, "That Lance guy,
how should I say it,</i>

965
00:42:08,047 --> 00:42:09,782
he's a little feminine."

966
00:42:10,249 --> 00:42:12,785
And I was like,
"No, he's not feminine.

967
00:42:12,885 --> 00:42:14,253
He's sensitive.

968
00:42:14,353 --> 00:42:15,822
This is the unit.

969
00:42:15,922 --> 00:42:17,857
And we're not changing
anything."

970
00:42:17,957 --> 00:42:20,092
So, finally, he was like,
"Fine, we'll just sign him."

971
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,597
So we got our record deal over
in Munich, Germany.

972
00:42:29,736 --> 00:42:32,404
And because we were
an American group

973
00:42:32,504 --> 00:42:34,874
that was on the same label
as Backstreet Boys

974
00:42:34,974 --> 00:42:36,609
and got a lot of attention.

975
00:42:36,709 --> 00:42:40,179
Joey! Chris. Hi, JC.

976
00:42:40,713 --> 00:42:42,749
[Lance] <i>That felt like
an overnight sensation.</i>

977
00:42:42,849 --> 00:42:44,216
<i>It didn't feel real.</i>

978
00:42:44,951 --> 00:42:48,888
But eventually we were playing
arenas in Germany.

979
00:42:53,660 --> 00:42:57,063
[fans screaming]

980
00:42:59,932 --> 00:43:01,600
[Johnny] <i>So about a year later,</i>

981
00:43:01,701 --> 00:43:03,135
<i>we brought NSYNC in.</i>

982
00:43:04,136 --> 00:43:06,739
<i>For whatever reason
the</i> NSYNC <i>album struggled.</i>

983
00:43:07,506 --> 00:43:09,241
They weren't really getting
on the radio.

984
00:43:11,978 --> 00:43:16,415
But the tides turned when we
did that Disney special.

985
00:43:17,149 --> 00:43:18,885
[all] Hi, we're NSYNC.

986
00:43:25,257 --> 00:43:28,094
The Disney channel had launched
the In Concert channel

987
00:43:28,194 --> 00:43:30,296
and I was one
of the architects of it.

988
00:43:31,964 --> 00:43:35,067
<i>Now Backstreet Boys
flew to be on the show.</i>

989
00:43:35,167 --> 00:43:37,603
At that point,
they'd gotten big.

990
00:43:38,337 --> 00:43:39,806
[Johnny] <i>The Backstreet Boys
were on the cover</i>

991
00:43:39,906 --> 00:43:41,573
<i>of Rolling Stone Magazine.</i>

992
00:43:42,208 --> 00:43:45,177
And the guys were like,
"Why are we doing Disney?"

993
00:43:45,277 --> 00:43:47,780
That's not who
our audience is anymore."

994
00:43:48,147 --> 00:43:50,082
[AJ] <i>Disney asked us
to do the special,</i>

995
00:43:50,182 --> 00:43:53,753
but we turned it down
because we were just tapped out.

996
00:43:54,186 --> 00:43:56,422
[Tina] <i>Now I'm devastated.</i>

997
00:43:57,123 --> 00:44:00,459
I need to find a replacement
in three weeks.

998
00:44:00,793 --> 00:44:02,628
<i>I was pitched NSYNC</i>

999
00:44:02,729 --> 00:44:04,396
<i>by RCA.</i>

1000
00:44:04,864 --> 00:44:07,366
And we said, "Okay, let's go."

1001
00:44:11,237 --> 00:44:15,674
The special came out
and the world went crazy.

1002
00:44:18,845 --> 00:44:21,948
My favorite boy band is NSYNC.

1003
00:44:22,048 --> 00:44:23,315
- They're hot.
- They're gorgeous.

1004
00:44:23,415 --> 00:44:25,785
Lance has the intelligence
and Justin has the looks.

1005
00:44:25,885 --> 00:44:27,319
Joey, Joey!

1006
00:44:27,419 --> 00:44:30,522
I think there's an NSYNC boy
for everyone out there.

1007
00:44:31,257 --> 00:44:33,726
You could just feel the change.

1008
00:44:33,826 --> 00:44:36,662
[fans screaming]

1009
00:44:37,529 --> 00:44:40,199
That Disney special
was their launching pad

1010
00:44:40,299 --> 00:44:43,069
and, overnight, they blew up.

1011
00:44:45,037 --> 00:44:48,174
[Tina] <i>Backstreet Boys
were incensed,</i>

1012
00:44:48,274 --> 00:44:49,708
<i>'cause then, all of a sudden,</i>

1013
00:44:49,809 --> 00:44:51,811
NSYNC was eclipsing them.

1014
00:44:51,911 --> 00:44:53,045
And they're going
to Johnny like,

1015
00:44:53,145 --> 00:44:54,413
"How did this happen?"

1016
00:44:54,513 --> 00:44:56,415
He said, "It was yours.
You turned it down."

1017
00:44:58,584 --> 00:45:01,687
<i>And by the time
our special ended,</i>

1018
00:45:01,988 --> 00:45:04,423
<i>NSYNC, they were platinum.</i>

1019
00:45:06,258 --> 00:45:08,227
<i>♪ Here we go</i>

1020
00:45:08,327 --> 00:45:10,797
And then it was
full speed ahead.

1021
00:45:10,897 --> 00:45:15,067
<i>♪ Here we go one more time
everybody's feeling fine ♪</i>

1022
00:45:15,167 --> 00:45:16,803
<i>♪ Here we go now</i>

1023
00:45:17,369 --> 00:45:18,637
[Johnny] <i>With NSYNC, it happened</i>

1024
00:45:18,737 --> 00:45:21,040
<i>even faster
than the Backstreet Boys,</i>

1025
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:24,877
going from unknowns
to this massive hysteria,

1026
00:45:24,977 --> 00:45:26,578
being chased around.

1027
00:45:27,046 --> 00:45:29,715
<i>♪ Here we go</i>

1028
00:45:29,816 --> 00:45:32,118
[fans screaming]

1029
00:45:32,218 --> 00:45:35,387
The personalities of the two
groups were different.

1030
00:45:37,256 --> 00:45:40,793
There was something
more genteel about Backstreet.

1031
00:45:41,627 --> 00:45:45,297
<i>Backstreet just felt
a little bit more restrained</i>

1032
00:45:46,498 --> 00:45:49,668
whereas NSYNC were just like,
"Let's have fun."

1033
00:45:51,003 --> 00:45:52,171
Are we that immature?

1034
00:45:52,271 --> 00:45:53,605
- Yeah.
- Yeah.

1035
00:45:53,705 --> 00:45:56,308
Oh, my God, you haven't seen
the show? What is wrong?

1036
00:45:57,176 --> 00:45:59,678
[John] <i>They had
a very party vibe.</i>

1037
00:46:02,915 --> 00:46:04,183
<i>When they went into a studio,</i>

1038
00:46:04,283 --> 00:46:06,618
<i>it felt like trying
to herd five cats.</i>

1039
00:46:07,686 --> 00:46:10,522
[Johnny] <i>The Backstreet Boys
were dark and mysterious.</i>

1040
00:46:10,622 --> 00:46:11,924
If we come into a hotel,

1041
00:46:12,024 --> 00:46:14,026
and there's 500 kids
in the lobby,

1042
00:46:14,126 --> 00:46:16,028
<i>Backstreet would go
in the back doors</i>

1043
00:46:16,128 --> 00:46:17,997
<i>or underneath the garages.</i>

1044
00:46:18,097 --> 00:46:20,833
And NSYNC would still
just walk through.

1045
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:22,401
<i>And they would stop,</i>

1046
00:46:22,501 --> 00:46:24,270
<i>try to take pictures
with 1,000 people.</i>

1047
00:46:24,370 --> 00:46:26,705
And at that time,
the three biggest bands

1048
00:46:26,805 --> 00:46:28,074
were Backstreet Boys, NSYNC,

1049
00:46:28,174 --> 00:46:30,843
and then the third band
was 98 Degrees.

1050
00:46:32,811 --> 00:46:34,180
[Nick] <i>With 98 Degrees,</i>

1051
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,015
<i>we never thought of ourselves
as a boy band,</i>

1052
00:46:36,115 --> 00:46:37,583
<i>at least in
the conventional sense.</i>

1053
00:46:38,084 --> 00:46:39,818
[crew] <i>Nick Lachey,
take one, marker.</i>

1054
00:46:40,619 --> 00:46:44,123
And so we resisted, big time,
the label of boy band.

1055
00:46:44,490 --> 00:46:46,258
But then I think we got
very aware

1056
00:46:46,358 --> 00:46:49,128
of the fact that this was
a movement that was happening.

1057
00:46:49,228 --> 00:46:53,299
And we were probably lucky
to get swept up in it.

1058
00:46:53,399 --> 00:46:56,768
<i>♪ Hardest thing I've ever
had to do ♪</i>

1059
00:46:56,869 --> 00:46:58,804
[Jeff] <i>The plan, originally,
for 98 Degrees</i>

1060
00:46:58,905 --> 00:47:02,241
was to sell us to the public
as a true R&B group.

1061
00:47:04,410 --> 00:47:07,046
<i>We were heavily influenced
by the group Boyz II Men.</i>

1062
00:47:07,146 --> 00:47:11,317
<i>♪ Oh God give me a reason</i>

1063
00:47:11,417 --> 00:47:14,887
<i>♪ I'm down on bended knee</i>

1064
00:47:14,987 --> 00:47:17,489
But when our label saw
the frenzy

1065
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:19,658
that was associated
with boy bands,

1066
00:47:19,758 --> 00:47:21,127
[crowd screaming]

1067
00:47:21,227 --> 00:47:23,395
<i>and they thought,
"Hey, we have our version</i>

1068
00:47:23,495 --> 00:47:25,231
<i>of a pop group like this."</i>

1069
00:47:25,331 --> 00:47:27,666
So we were like, "Maybe it's not
a bad idea."

1070
00:47:29,801 --> 00:47:32,104
<i>At the time, boy bands
were all about dancing,</i>

1071
00:47:32,204 --> 00:47:34,340
<i>and, Lord knows, we were
not all about dancing.</i>

1072
00:47:34,907 --> 00:47:37,609
We always joked that we were
the non-dancing boy band.

1073
00:47:37,709 --> 00:47:39,045
We never auditioned.

1074
00:47:39,145 --> 00:47:40,546
We never went
through dance class.

1075
00:47:40,646 --> 00:47:43,515
We put ourselves together.
We moved to California.

1076
00:47:43,615 --> 00:47:45,351
We sang for people.
We got discovered.

1077
00:47:45,451 --> 00:47:47,219
And then, from there,
we got swept up

1078
00:47:47,319 --> 00:47:48,620
in a whole 'nother thing.

1079
00:47:49,621 --> 00:47:53,092
This was a time that was
completely shifting pop music

1080
00:47:53,192 --> 00:47:54,793
for the next couple of decades.

1081
00:47:55,527 --> 00:47:57,596
[Nick] <i>MTV was a huge part
of that.</i>

1082
00:47:58,697 --> 00:48:00,666
MTV, to be honest,

1083
00:48:00,766 --> 00:48:03,435
well, I don't work there
anymore, so I can say this,

1084
00:48:03,535 --> 00:48:07,173
they were resistant to really
doing much with boy bands.

1085
00:48:07,273 --> 00:48:11,043
<i>And the news department
was a little reluctant</i>

1086
00:48:11,143 --> 00:48:12,644
<i>to get on board
with covering them.</i>

1087
00:48:12,744 --> 00:48:16,515
At the time, "boy band" had
a totally negative connotation.

1088
00:48:16,615 --> 00:48:18,350
[Lance] <i>This boy band term was
a way</i>

1089
00:48:18,450 --> 00:48:19,685
<i>to make fun of the group.</i>

1090
00:48:19,785 --> 00:48:23,022
It was a way to explain
a group had no talent

1091
00:48:23,655 --> 00:48:25,157
without saying
that have no talent.

1092
00:48:25,257 --> 00:48:27,193
I'm not no Miles Davis
or nothing,

1093
00:48:27,293 --> 00:48:31,097
but I know I'm good.
I can tell you that.

1094
00:48:31,197 --> 00:48:33,432
The perception is
it's manufactured.

1095
00:48:33,532 --> 00:48:37,203
But what band that signs
to a record label

1096
00:48:37,303 --> 00:48:40,639
isn't, at that point,
becoming manufactured.

1097
00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:42,674
[Woman] <i>The bands like
The Monkees</i>

1098
00:48:42,774 --> 00:48:45,644
<i>were actually put together
for television.</i>

1099
00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:52,351
It's pretty much the same way
to form a group

1100
00:48:53,385 --> 00:48:54,886
than anybody else forms
a rock and roll group,

1101
00:48:54,987 --> 00:48:56,755
whether it's John Lennon
walking down the street,

1102
00:48:56,855 --> 00:48:59,358
asking Paul and Ringo
and George to join him

1103
00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:01,393
or whether it's someone
putting an ad in the paper.

1104
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:03,195
You've gotta start somewhere.

1105
00:49:03,295 --> 00:49:07,866
So much of the criticism
was leveled at boy bands

1106
00:49:07,966 --> 00:49:10,769
and ours, in particular,
because of the screaming fans.

1107
00:49:10,869 --> 00:49:15,341
Everybody was so bothered
by these female fans

1108
00:49:15,441 --> 00:49:18,977
and it was like, "Do they not
have eyes and ears?

1109
00:49:19,078 --> 00:49:20,479
Do they not have taste?"

1110
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,215
[Taylor] <i>If those girls were
reacting strongly to this,</i>

1111
00:49:23,315 --> 00:49:24,783
<i>maybe we need to pay
more attention</i>

1112
00:49:24,883 --> 00:49:27,853
to just how real
and how authentic that is.

1113
00:49:28,287 --> 00:49:32,391
Watching how young people,
and, specifically, young women,

1114
00:49:32,491 --> 00:49:34,326
how much, not only,
their voices matter,

1115
00:49:34,426 --> 00:49:36,362
but their dollar matters.

1116
00:49:37,329 --> 00:49:38,764
[Donnie] <i>And the marketplace
had changed,</i>

1117
00:49:38,864 --> 00:49:42,768
and MTV went from hating
to play boy bands, us,

1118
00:49:42,868 --> 00:49:47,873
to relying on boy bands to stay
financially viable.

1119
00:49:49,375 --> 00:49:50,576
[Van] <i>We saw the research</i>

1120
00:49:50,676 --> 00:49:51,777
<i>that the audience wanted to se,</i>

1121
00:49:51,877 --> 00:49:54,980
<i>colorful, beautiful,
funny videos.</i>

1122
00:49:55,081 --> 00:49:56,448
Look! Look!

1123
00:49:56,548 --> 00:49:58,484
[Van] <i>There was a need
for a program for kids</i>

1124
00:49:58,584 --> 00:50:00,086
<i>when they get home from school</i>

1125
00:50:00,186 --> 00:50:01,687
in the afternoon.

1126
00:50:02,020 --> 00:50:03,789
And TRL came after that.

1127
00:50:07,326 --> 00:50:10,129
<i>TRL was fan-driven.</i>

1128
00:50:10,229 --> 00:50:11,830
<i>We had the audience vote.</i>

1129
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:13,432
[Host] <i>To you at home,
if you wanna vote</i>

1130
00:50:13,532 --> 00:50:14,466
<i>for your favorite videos,
you can.</i>

1131
00:50:14,566 --> 00:50:15,567
- Call 800.
- DIAL.MTV.

1132
00:50:15,667 --> 00:50:17,103
[Nick] <i>It was interactive.</i>

1133
00:50:17,203 --> 00:50:19,037
<i>Fans felt like they had a say.</i>

1134
00:50:19,138 --> 00:50:20,372
I've tried to explain it
to my kids,

1135
00:50:20,472 --> 00:50:23,242
what it meant
to that era of music

1136
00:50:23,342 --> 00:50:25,043
and what it meant
to that generation of kids,

1137
00:50:25,144 --> 00:50:26,778
but if you were
of a certain age,

1138
00:50:26,878 --> 00:50:28,414
it was must-see TV.

1139
00:50:28,947 --> 00:50:30,949
Hollerin' folk outside.
What's up y'all?

1140
00:50:31,049 --> 00:50:32,484
Hey, Quddus here.

1141
00:50:32,584 --> 00:50:34,253
[Nick] <i>The fans really loved
being a part of it.</i>

1142
00:50:34,353 --> 00:50:36,422
People had bets
with their friends

1143
00:50:36,522 --> 00:50:39,525
about who was gonna end up
number-one on the countdown.

1144
00:50:39,991 --> 00:50:42,561
[Lance] <i>It gives the fans
a way to show you, quantify,</i>

1145
00:50:42,661 --> 00:50:44,830
okay, which one
is the biggest right now?"

1146
00:50:46,398 --> 00:50:49,401
Every day, right when kids
got home from school,

1147
00:50:49,501 --> 00:50:52,238
there was our video
on national TV,

1148
00:50:52,338 --> 00:50:54,206
<i>and then the Backstreet video,</i>

1149
00:50:54,306 --> 00:50:56,242
<i>a 98 Degrees video.</i>

1150
00:50:56,342 --> 00:50:57,443
<i>And it was like, "All right,</i>

1151
00:50:57,543 --> 00:50:59,445
who's gonna be number one
today?"

1152
00:50:59,911 --> 00:51:01,247
[Host] <i>It's been a battle
all week long</i>

1153
00:51:01,347 --> 00:51:02,814
between the Backstreet Boys
and NSYNC today.

1154
00:51:02,914 --> 00:51:05,684
Unfortunately, NSYNC
is at number two.

1155
00:51:05,784 --> 00:51:07,819
It fueled this giant energy

1156
00:51:07,919 --> 00:51:11,923
of competition,
and TRL was the gasoline.

1157
00:51:12,023 --> 00:51:13,692
They're the Backstreet Boys
with <i>Shape of my Heart,</i>

1158
00:51:13,792 --> 00:51:15,227
the number one video
in the country

1159
00:51:15,327 --> 00:51:16,562
taking us into the weekend.

1160
00:51:16,662 --> 00:51:18,830
Every video we put out,

1161
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:20,232
it was number one,

1162
00:51:20,332 --> 00:51:21,767
or number two, number one,
number two,

1163
00:51:21,867 --> 00:51:24,603
and then NSYNC came out
and then you had 98 Degrees.

1164
00:51:24,703 --> 00:51:26,638
It was just this nonstop battle.

1165
00:51:26,738 --> 00:51:28,574
98 Degrees, <i>This Gift.</i>

1166
00:51:28,674 --> 00:51:30,576
This is your seventh
most requested video.

1167
00:51:30,676 --> 00:51:32,511
If any group told you
they didn't wanna be

1168
00:51:32,611 --> 00:51:34,380
number one on the countdown,
they were lying to you.

1169
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,047
Of course you wanna be
number one.

1170
00:51:36,148 --> 00:51:38,650
We took notice of where we were
on the countdown.

1171
00:51:41,987 --> 00:51:44,323
[Jeff] <i>The first time
we went on TRL,</i>

1172
00:51:44,423 --> 00:51:45,857
it was almost like
an overnight change.

1173
00:51:45,957 --> 00:51:47,593
[Host] <i>Jeff, Drew,
Nick, and Justin,</i>

1174
00:51:47,693 --> 00:51:49,027
<i>why don't you get out here?</i>

1175
00:51:49,127 --> 00:51:50,362
[Jeff] <i>We had gone from driving
ourselves around</i>

1176
00:51:50,462 --> 00:51:52,164
in a Winnebago
that we had wrapped

1177
00:51:52,264 --> 00:51:53,965
to, all of a sudden,
not being able

1178
00:51:54,065 --> 00:51:55,401
to get out of the Winnebago.

1179
00:51:55,501 --> 00:51:57,969
Literally, fans everywhere,
wherever we pulled up.

1180
00:51:58,537 --> 00:52:00,071
<i>Fans would sneak on
our tour bus,</i>

1181
00:52:00,172 --> 00:52:02,608
and we would've even know they
were there till the next city.

1182
00:52:02,708 --> 00:52:04,176
I'm sure it doesn't even
come close

1183
00:52:04,276 --> 00:52:05,411
to rivaling The Beatles,

1184
00:52:05,511 --> 00:52:07,246
but it just felt special.

1185
00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:11,116
We ordered room service and they
were in the room service cart,

1186
00:52:11,217 --> 00:52:12,551
and popped out.

1187
00:52:12,651 --> 00:52:15,487
Some things are a little bit
too crazy to talk about.

1188
00:52:16,455 --> 00:52:18,490
[Van] <i>Part of the reason
we did TRL too,</i>

1189
00:52:18,590 --> 00:52:20,459
we found out that the audience

1190
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,394
wanted to see themselves on TV.

1191
00:52:22,494 --> 00:52:23,695
My name's Debbie.

1192
00:52:24,196 --> 00:52:26,532
[Van] <i>So we brought them all
into the studio.</i>

1193
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:30,202
<i>This is our specially selected
studio audience.</i>

1194
00:52:30,836 --> 00:52:32,971
[Van] <i>It really cemented
the connection</i>

1195
00:52:33,071 --> 00:52:35,807
<i>between these boy bands
and the fans.</i>

1196
00:52:35,907 --> 00:52:37,042
Hey, what's up?

1197
00:52:37,142 --> 00:52:40,011
I think TRL was definitely
the nail in the coffin

1198
00:52:40,111 --> 00:52:43,014
for the fandoms to be
at each other's throats.

1199
00:52:44,015 --> 00:52:46,418
This is my favorite one
pretty much out of all of them.

1200
00:52:46,518 --> 00:52:48,320
I'm usually always bragging
about them

1201
00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:49,521
and how great they are,

1202
00:52:49,621 --> 00:52:50,956
'cause everyone's like,
"NSYNC, NSYNC."

1203
00:52:51,056 --> 00:52:52,891
And I'm usually like, "No,
Backstreet Boys. That's it."

1204
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:56,328
You're either Team NSYNC
or were Team Backstreet Boys.

1205
00:52:56,428 --> 00:52:58,129
Really couldn't be both.

1206
00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:59,465
Backstreet's going down.

1207
00:52:59,565 --> 00:53:01,567
[screaming] Backstreet Boys!

1208
00:53:01,667 --> 00:53:03,935
NSYNC can dance.
Backstreet's nothing

1209
00:53:04,035 --> 00:53:04,936
compared to them.

1210
00:53:05,036 --> 00:53:06,638
Look at this shirt.
I sleep in this.

1211
00:53:07,138 --> 00:53:09,775
Every boy band
has to have that rivalry.

1212
00:53:09,875 --> 00:53:11,610
You always gotta have someone

1213
00:53:11,710 --> 00:53:14,880
that the record label just
overpromoting against.

1214
00:53:15,647 --> 00:53:18,183
<i>New additions thrown at our butt
was Menudo.</i>

1215
00:53:19,050 --> 00:53:20,319
<i>A Spanish boy band.</i>

1216
00:53:20,419 --> 00:53:25,056
<i>♪ I just want you to
hold me, let me show you ♪</i>

1217
00:53:25,156 --> 00:53:28,694
<i>♪ How love can make
Our dreams come true ♪</i>

1218
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,364
[Woman] <i>Menudo being
the first Latin-American band</i>

1219
00:53:32,464 --> 00:53:33,632
<i>to come through.</i>

1220
00:53:33,732 --> 00:53:34,700
<i>I was like,
"Who are these guys?"</i>

1221
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,269
They were just so cute.

1222
00:53:37,369 --> 00:53:39,170
<i>There's Ricky.</i>

1223
00:53:40,406 --> 00:53:41,640
<i>The big thing about Menudo</i>

1224
00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:44,610
was how they would
replace the members

1225
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:46,745
as they got to a certain age.

1226
00:53:47,379 --> 00:53:50,316
[Donny] <i>The competition between
The Osmonds and the Jackson 5</i>

1227
00:53:50,416 --> 00:53:51,917
was real.

1228
00:53:53,852 --> 00:53:55,687
<i>We all had to have cartoons
back in the day</i>

1229
00:53:55,787 --> 00:53:57,289
<i>that played into
this competition</i>

1230
00:53:57,389 --> 00:53:58,757
<i>of the Jacksons and The Osmond.</i>

1231
00:53:58,857 --> 00:54:01,259
<i>Which one
was the most popular cartoon?</i>

1232
00:54:03,729 --> 00:54:06,732
[Woman] <i>The Beatles
and The Rolling Stones.</i>

1233
00:54:08,367 --> 00:54:11,870
The bigger the rivalry got,
the bigger each band got.

1234
00:54:11,970 --> 00:54:13,572
[Barry] <i>When the NSYNC album
came out,</i>

1235
00:54:13,672 --> 00:54:15,006
<i>there was a concerted effort
by the fans</i>

1236
00:54:15,106 --> 00:54:17,709
to buy two, three, four copies
of the CD,

1237
00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:19,545
so they could have
the biggest first week ever.

1238
00:54:19,645 --> 00:54:21,313
It was a rallying cry.

1239
00:54:21,813 --> 00:54:22,848
<i>They all come out
because they want</i>

1240
00:54:22,948 --> 00:54:24,182
<i>their group to be the biggest.</i>

1241
00:54:24,282 --> 00:54:26,251
There is no real bitter rivalry

1242
00:54:26,352 --> 00:54:27,553
between Backstreet and NSYNC.

1243
00:54:27,653 --> 00:54:29,821
I think that it's just
friendly competition

1244
00:54:29,921 --> 00:54:31,790
more or less than anything.

1245
00:54:32,658 --> 00:54:33,959
[Lance] <i>It was like a sport.</i>

1246
00:54:34,059 --> 00:54:35,927
<i>And friendly competition
is great.</i>

1247
00:54:36,027 --> 00:54:37,829
<i>And I wish
it would've stayed like that.</i>

1248
00:54:37,929 --> 00:54:40,031
I would've loved this
to have been a Motown.

1249
00:54:40,131 --> 00:54:43,034
Motown, back in the day,
all the groups

1250
00:54:43,134 --> 00:54:45,070
<i>were signed together,
the would tour with each other.</i>

1251
00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:48,273
<i>They would do songs.
It was a family affair.</i>

1252
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,710
But with Transcon,
it was not a family affair.

1253
00:54:53,178 --> 00:54:54,546
<i>At the beginning,</i>

1254
00:54:54,646 --> 00:54:55,881
<i>I got to know a lot
of people at Transcon</i>

1255
00:54:55,981 --> 00:54:57,349
<i>'cause we went on the road.</i>

1256
00:54:58,950 --> 00:55:01,620
<i>That's where I learned
about the Backstreet Boys</i>

1257
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,288
and if they were gonna be mad

1258
00:55:03,389 --> 00:55:04,723
that we were working with Johnny

1259
00:55:04,823 --> 00:55:07,659
and even at the record label,
we were called beef eye

1260
00:55:07,759 --> 00:55:10,929
because they didn't want
"the boys" to learn about us.

1261
00:55:11,697 --> 00:55:12,831
<i>So, immediately, we knew</i>

1262
00:55:12,931 --> 00:55:14,666
that there's some shady stuff
going on there,

1263
00:55:14,766 --> 00:55:16,067
and if I was
the Backstreet Boys,

1264
00:55:16,167 --> 00:55:17,068
I'd be pissed.

1265
00:55:17,168 --> 00:55:20,972
It's like,
"Find your own identity."

1266
00:55:21,407 --> 00:55:22,741
I'd be so upset

1267
00:55:22,841 --> 00:55:24,643
if you're secretly putting
a group behind my back

1268
00:55:24,743 --> 00:55:25,744
and not telling me about it.

1269
00:55:25,844 --> 00:55:27,012
That means you know
you're wrong.

1270
00:55:27,112 --> 00:55:30,949
So I knew that they
weren't gonna be happy.

1271
00:55:33,552 --> 00:55:38,156
[screaming fans]

1272
00:55:38,256 --> 00:55:40,291
[Johnny] <i>So the Backstreet Boys
were in Utah</i>

1273
00:55:40,392 --> 00:55:42,227
<i>and so I fly up there.</i>

1274
00:55:42,327 --> 00:55:43,429
And Howie says to me,

1275
00:55:43,529 --> 00:55:44,630
"Hey, where you been?"

1276
00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:46,131
And I said, "Oh, I've been
in Orlando

1277
00:55:46,231 --> 00:55:48,867
getting things squared away
with NSYNC."

1278
00:55:48,967 --> 00:55:51,737
And he looks at me like,
"What do you mean NSYNC?"

1279
00:55:51,837 --> 00:55:53,304
And I said, "Yeah, NSYNC."

1280
00:55:53,405 --> 00:55:55,641
I said, "Lou told me that he
told you that we signed them."

1281
00:55:55,741 --> 00:55:57,643
He said,
"Lou didn't tell us that."

1282
00:55:58,076 --> 00:56:00,111
I was like, "What?"
He said, "Yeah."

1283
00:56:00,211 --> 00:56:02,347
So a little bit later
after that,

1284
00:56:02,448 --> 00:56:05,851
Brian and Kevin come to my room
and they knock on the door.

1285
00:56:05,951 --> 00:56:08,219
And they say to me, "Why did you
lie to us?"

1286
00:56:09,087 --> 00:56:10,622
And I said, "What are you
talking about?"

1287
00:56:10,722 --> 00:56:13,592
He goes, "Lou told us
that he didn't sign them.

1288
00:56:13,692 --> 00:56:15,126
He said you signed them.

1289
00:56:15,226 --> 00:56:18,296
And he showed us the contract
with your signature on it."

1290
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:22,434
And so I'm like,
"Oh, my God, Lou."

1291
00:56:22,968 --> 00:56:25,203
I had said to them,
I said, "Look.

1292
00:56:25,303 --> 00:56:26,438
It's a done deal.

1293
00:56:26,538 --> 00:56:28,073
Both of you groups can survive."

1294
00:56:28,173 --> 00:56:30,141
I said, "I'll make
this promise to you.

1295
00:56:30,241 --> 00:56:32,711
I will never pit you
against each other."

1296
00:56:32,811 --> 00:56:36,748
Lou and Johnny were like, "Okay,

1297
00:56:36,848 --> 00:56:38,684
we're gonna manage them as well

1298
00:56:39,350 --> 00:56:42,854
to keep them
out of your way, essentially."

1299
00:56:43,789 --> 00:56:47,392
But they also got signed
to the same label,

1300
00:56:47,659 --> 00:56:49,327
<i>got shipped over to Stockholm,</i>

1301
00:56:49,427 --> 00:56:50,462
<i>just like us,</i>

1302
00:56:50,562 --> 00:56:52,397
<i>working with Max and Dennis.</i>

1303
00:56:52,931 --> 00:56:55,867
And it was literally
a carbon copy.

1304
00:56:59,070 --> 00:57:00,739
[Johnny] <i>They were upset.</i>

1305
00:57:02,407 --> 00:57:03,575
And I can understand that.

1306
00:57:03,675 --> 00:57:05,577
They felt like,
"We were the first.

1307
00:57:05,677 --> 00:57:07,779
You went and got
these second guys.

1308
00:57:07,879 --> 00:57:10,148
So we feel like
now you betrayed us."

1309
00:57:10,248 --> 00:57:12,751
It's like being
in a relationship.

1310
00:57:13,351 --> 00:57:16,722
It got really funky too
around our award shows.

1311
00:57:16,822 --> 00:57:18,857
Backstreet Boys, <i>Everybody.</i>

1312
00:57:19,457 --> 00:57:21,993
[Van] <i>When those bands
were on together,</i>

1313
00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:25,631
<i>we had to logistically plot
their seating.</i>

1314
00:57:25,731 --> 00:57:27,799
<i>They couldn't be
near each other.</i>

1315
00:57:27,899 --> 00:57:30,001
<i>At the height of Backstreet
and NSYNC,</i>

1316
00:57:30,101 --> 00:57:32,771
it was a methodical system

1317
00:57:33,238 --> 00:57:35,106
<i>to keep them away
from each other.</i>

1318
00:57:36,041 --> 00:57:37,909
[Lance] <i>The reason Lou
kept us apart</i>

1319
00:57:38,009 --> 00:57:41,279
was a byproduct of him
not wanting us to speak

1320
00:57:41,379 --> 00:57:44,382
so we didn't figure out how
horrible of a deal we've signed.

1321
00:57:44,482 --> 00:57:45,917
If we would've known those guys

1322
00:57:46,017 --> 00:57:48,053
and had real friendships
with them

1323
00:57:48,153 --> 00:57:50,856
and were able
to discuss business,

1324
00:57:50,956 --> 00:57:52,658
we would've figured out
very quickly

1325
00:57:52,758 --> 00:57:54,960
that we're all getting screwed.

1326
00:57:56,161 --> 00:57:58,363
<i>Everyone has the same story.</i>

1327
00:57:58,463 --> 00:57:59,531
"First deal's horrible.

1328
00:57:59,631 --> 00:58:00,899
We got taken advantage of here."

1329
00:58:00,999 --> 00:58:02,834
But people will still sign
that contract.

1330
00:58:03,268 --> 00:58:04,870
Congratulations to
the Backstreet Boys

1331
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:06,304
on this signing.

1332
00:58:06,404 --> 00:58:08,574
Because they know that sometimes
that's the only way

1333
00:58:08,674 --> 00:58:10,041
they can get their foot
in the door.

1334
00:58:10,141 --> 00:58:12,310
<i>Please welcome NSYNC.</i>

1335
00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:14,145
[fans screaming loudly]

1336
00:58:14,245 --> 00:58:16,715
[Lance] <i>And then,
after finding success,</i>

1337
00:58:16,815 --> 00:58:18,550
<i>people think,
"They can change it."</i>

1338
00:58:18,650 --> 00:58:19,651
"No, I can start here,

1339
00:58:19,751 --> 00:58:21,019
but I know a way
I can change that.

1340
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:23,121
It won't last forever.
I can renegotiate."

1341
00:58:23,221 --> 00:58:24,923
<i>But when you sign a contract,</i>

1342
00:58:25,023 --> 00:58:28,193
<i>especially teenagers sign
these entertainment deals,</i>

1343
00:58:28,694 --> 00:58:29,895
they're ironclad.

1344
00:58:29,995 --> 00:58:31,930
They're very, very hard
to get out of.

1345
00:58:34,833 --> 00:58:35,934
[Johnny] <i>Your first deal
might be</i>

1346
00:58:36,034 --> 00:58:37,703
<i>the worst deal
you could ever have.</i>

1347
00:58:38,103 --> 00:58:39,971
Lou has taken the lion's share.

1348
00:58:40,205 --> 00:58:41,807
Let's just say it's a dollar

1349
00:58:41,907 --> 00:58:44,910
and the band gets 15%,
he gets 85%,

1350
00:58:46,344 --> 00:58:50,415
well, on top of that, he was
a one-sixth member of the band.

1351
00:58:50,816 --> 00:58:55,420
So he also got a piece
out of their 15%.

1352
00:58:58,123 --> 00:58:59,791
He was the one-sixth member.

1353
00:58:59,891 --> 00:59:02,894
Anything we got paid,
anything we did, he got,

1354
00:59:02,994 --> 00:59:04,730
even though
he wasn't lifting a finger.

1355
00:59:05,296 --> 00:59:08,600
<i>And we were generating him
so much money.</i>

1356
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:09,935
<i>It's crazy.</i>

1357
00:59:10,035 --> 00:59:13,304
It wasn't until we
got our first paycheck

1358
00:59:13,404 --> 00:59:18,209
years later, and it just was not
what we expected at all.

1359
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:20,145
And they had
these big checks made

1360
00:59:20,245 --> 00:59:22,013
that I didn't know banks took.

1361
00:59:22,113 --> 00:59:23,882
And they handed us
the big check, and he's like,

1362
00:59:23,982 --> 00:59:25,583
"$10,000."

1363
00:59:25,684 --> 00:59:26,852
And I looked at it.

1364
00:59:26,952 --> 00:59:28,086
And I looked at Justin.

1365
00:59:28,186 --> 00:59:30,088
And he looked at me.
And I was like,

1366
00:59:30,188 --> 00:59:34,325
[whispering] "I can't believe
we are rich!"

1367
00:59:34,425 --> 00:59:38,630
Meanwhile, JC pulled me aside
and said, "You're rich?"

1368
00:59:38,730 --> 00:59:40,098
I'm like, "Yeah, I got $10,000."

1369
00:59:40,198 --> 00:59:42,100
He goes, "How much money
did you make

1370
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,803
waiting tables
at the outback in a year?"

1371
00:59:44,903 --> 00:59:46,638
And I was like, "Oh, but...

1372
00:59:46,738 --> 00:59:49,908
Oh. Now I get it."

1373
00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:53,344
We're working for free
for these guys.

1374
00:59:53,444 --> 00:59:56,514
[Brittany] <i>The labels that
signed them and worked with them</i>

1375
00:59:56,614 --> 00:59:58,216
<i>often worked them to the bone.</i>

1376
00:59:58,316 --> 01:00:00,185
Guys, welcome, well, I don't
wanna keep you too long here

1377
01:00:00,285 --> 01:00:01,753
because I know
you wanna warm up.

1378
01:00:01,853 --> 01:00:03,421
[Brittany] <i>These bands were
touted out</i>

1379
01:00:03,521 --> 01:00:04,756
<i>on crazy schedules.</i>

1380
01:00:04,856 --> 01:00:06,191
<i>Yearlong tours,</i>

1381
01:00:06,291 --> 01:00:07,726
<i>producing an album
while they're on tour.</i>

1382
01:00:07,826 --> 01:00:10,996
Just be everywhere in the world
at once, essentially,

1383
01:00:11,096 --> 01:00:14,265
<i>for four, five years straight
with no breaks.</i>

1384
01:00:15,734 --> 01:00:18,336
[Lance] <i>While on tour, we do
hundreds of shows a year,</i>

1385
01:00:18,436 --> 01:00:19,671
<i>packing arenas.</i>

1386
01:00:19,771 --> 01:00:21,039
<i>We were just working.</i>

1387
01:00:21,139 --> 01:00:22,841
Here are some of the passes
throughout the year.

1388
01:00:22,941 --> 01:00:24,209
They all look the same.

1389
01:00:25,543 --> 01:00:26,745
[Lori] <i>These boy bands,</i>

1390
01:00:26,845 --> 01:00:29,147
<i>NSYNC, Backstreet Boys,
98 Degrees,</i>

1391
01:00:29,247 --> 01:00:31,983
they were the hardest-working
people I'd ever met.

1392
01:00:32,684 --> 01:00:35,353
[Brittany] <i>They were on
the biggest tours of that time.</i>

1393
01:00:35,453 --> 01:00:37,555
<i>They were selling
a million albums a week.</i>

1394
01:00:37,655 --> 01:00:40,191
And they were coming back
and they had no money at all.

1395
01:00:40,625 --> 01:00:43,161
[AJ] <i>It was a hell of a time
for all of us.</i>

1396
01:00:44,229 --> 01:00:46,698
<i>While we were doing
the next album shoot,</i>

1397
01:00:46,798 --> 01:00:48,366
we hadn't had a title yet.

1398
01:00:48,934 --> 01:00:50,535
And we decided
to call it <i>Black & Blue</i>

1399
01:00:50,635 --> 01:00:54,605
<i>because we literally felt
beat up by the label,</i>

1400
01:00:54,706 --> 01:00:56,174
<i>just beat up in general.</i>

1401
01:00:56,274 --> 01:00:58,176
Eventually,
we basically were like,

1402
01:00:58,276 --> 01:01:00,712
"Okay, you know what?
Let's just cut you a check.

1403
01:01:00,812 --> 01:01:02,013
Cut our losses.

1404
01:01:02,113 --> 01:01:03,481
We're gonna buy the name.

1405
01:01:03,581 --> 01:01:06,985
You gotta open up the doors
and give us our stuff."

1406
01:01:07,652 --> 01:01:08,653
And that was that.

1407
01:01:09,254 --> 01:01:10,722
[Johnny] <i>When NSYNC came around,</i>

1408
01:01:10,822 --> 01:01:13,058
<i>they were watching what was
going on with Backstreet Boys</i>

1409
01:01:13,158 --> 01:01:15,026
and decided that they were gonna
do the same thing.

1410
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,262
[Lance] <i>We work for three years
and have</i>

1411
01:01:17,362 --> 01:01:19,564
<i>millions and millions
and millions of dollars</i>

1412
01:01:19,664 --> 01:01:20,832
<i>coming in,</i>

1413
01:01:20,932 --> 01:01:22,567
we have power now,
so let's renegotiate

1414
01:01:22,667 --> 01:01:23,769
with the record label.

1415
01:01:23,869 --> 01:01:25,303
Oh, no, not even happening.

1416
01:01:25,403 --> 01:01:27,873
Not even a discussion
to renegotiate.

1417
01:01:27,973 --> 01:01:29,340
I went to Lou and I said,

1418
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,877
"If you're not gonna settle
with NSYNC,

1419
01:01:31,977 --> 01:01:33,711
then I have to step
away from you

1420
01:01:33,812 --> 01:01:35,380
and this battle is yours."

1421
01:01:36,748 --> 01:01:38,917
The kids should step back
and say,

1422
01:01:39,017 --> 01:01:40,285
"How'd I get here?

1423
01:01:40,385 --> 01:01:42,387
Who took the risk?
Who put up all the money?"

1424
01:01:42,788 --> 01:01:46,424
That's when we realized, "Uh-oh,
this is gonna be a fight."

1425
01:01:47,392 --> 01:01:49,360
<i>JC called his uncle
who was a lawyer,</i>

1426
01:01:49,460 --> 01:01:52,764
sent him the contract,
and he was like, "Whoa.

1427
01:01:53,131 --> 01:01:54,365
This is horrible."

1428
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:57,368
<i>And he helped us find a little
out in the contract</i>

1429
01:01:57,468 --> 01:01:59,670
<i>that the Backstreet Boys
did not have.</i>

1430
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:05,243
<i>And it was
the 9999 Video Music Awards.</i>

1431
01:02:05,343 --> 01:02:10,181
[Host] <i>MTV Video Music Awards
live on stage from New York's...</i>

1432
01:02:10,281 --> 01:02:11,682
[Lance] <i>And we were performing.</i>

1433
01:02:14,219 --> 01:02:17,622
And Jive Records comes
to the show and were like,

1434
01:02:17,923 --> 01:02:19,457
"We're gonna sign you."

1435
01:02:20,491 --> 01:02:22,360
[Brian] <i>I was overseeing
both US and Canada</i>

1436
01:02:22,460 --> 01:02:24,529
for Jive Records at the time.

1437
01:02:27,966 --> 01:02:29,334
We stole them.

1438
01:02:29,968 --> 01:02:31,736
Yeah, we basically stole NSYNC.

1439
01:02:32,871 --> 01:02:35,073
<i>We said to Johnny,
"We'd like to have a meeting</i>

1440
01:02:35,173 --> 01:02:36,507
<i>with you and the guys in NSYNC"</i>

1441
01:02:36,607 --> 01:02:38,509
I had to be careful
at what I did

1442
01:02:38,609 --> 01:02:39,945
because were still fighting
with Lou.

1443
01:02:40,045 --> 01:02:41,212
This is like enemy territory.

1444
01:02:41,312 --> 01:02:42,613
We were
the Backstreet Boys guys.

1445
01:02:42,713 --> 01:02:45,316
<i>But then Johnny was like,
"Okay, let's go."</i>

1446
01:02:45,783 --> 01:02:48,019
<i>We met the group that night
after the show</i>

1447
01:02:48,119 --> 01:02:49,988
<i>at the hotel conference room.</i>

1448
01:02:50,088 --> 01:02:51,222
Talked about it and we said,

1449
01:02:51,322 --> 01:02:52,257
"Wow, these guys are great.

1450
01:02:52,357 --> 01:02:53,624
We gotta try to do this."

1451
01:02:53,892 --> 01:02:55,927
We were signing contracts there

1452
01:02:56,027 --> 01:02:57,162
and RCA was running

1453
01:02:57,262 --> 01:02:58,596
down the traffic of Times Square

1454
01:02:58,696 --> 01:03:00,598
to stop us
from signing this contract

1455
01:03:00,698 --> 01:03:04,402
because they finally realized
that we were telling the truth.

1456
01:03:06,237 --> 01:03:07,305
<i>But they didn't get there
in time</i>

1457
01:03:07,405 --> 01:03:08,739
and [smacks lips]
signed with Jive.

1458
01:03:10,141 --> 01:03:11,809
<i>That felt good.</i>

1459
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:13,578
<i>We got our power back.</i>

1460
01:03:14,312 --> 01:03:16,747
[Chris] <i>It was a good thing.
I loved Jive.</i>

1461
01:03:16,848 --> 01:03:19,617
<i>But it was inside of me going,</i>

1462
01:03:19,717 --> 01:03:21,752
<i>"RCA worked hard for us</i>

1463
01:03:22,187 --> 01:03:25,523
and now we're just saying,
'bye, bye, bye.'"

1464
01:03:26,724 --> 01:03:28,193
[Lance] <i>I remember we were
in a cab,</i>

1465
01:03:28,293 --> 01:03:29,594
<i>talking about the new album</i>

1466
01:03:29,694 --> 01:03:32,263
and what we wanted to do
and how it was so liberating,

1467
01:03:32,363 --> 01:03:34,966
and we're finally away from Lou.

1468
01:03:35,066 --> 01:03:37,102
And we're doing it
ourselves this time.

1469
01:03:37,202 --> 01:03:38,336
And Chris was like...

1470
01:03:38,436 --> 01:03:40,939
"Hey, what if we do
a Pinocchio thing?

1471
01:03:41,506 --> 01:03:43,909
And what if we cut our strings
and we say,

1472
01:03:44,009 --> 01:03:46,177
we call it, "I got no strings."

1473
01:03:46,277 --> 01:03:48,046
And I'm like,
"No strings attached."

1474
01:03:48,146 --> 01:03:50,148
And it just
was born right there.

1475
01:03:51,016 --> 01:03:53,318
<i>♪ Bye bye bye, bye bye</i>

1476
01:03:54,452 --> 01:03:56,087
[Chris] <i>Everybody
in the business knows</i>

1477
01:03:56,187 --> 01:03:57,755
<i>you're only as good
as your sophomore album.</i>

1478
01:03:57,855 --> 01:04:00,291
<i>So here we are.
This is our sophomore album</i>

1479
01:04:00,391 --> 01:04:01,792
<i>and we go, "You Know what?</i>

1480
01:04:01,893 --> 01:04:03,228
<i>Let's leave our record company</i>

1481
01:04:03,328 --> 01:04:05,363
<i>and do this
completely differently."</i>

1482
01:04:05,463 --> 01:04:07,832
I don't think any of us thought
it would've worked

1483
01:04:07,933 --> 01:04:08,866
like it did.

1484
01:04:09,734 --> 01:04:11,636
[Johnny] <i>It's not about
Lou Pearlman anymore.</i>

1485
01:04:11,736 --> 01:04:13,138
<i>It's all about NSYNC.</i>

1486
01:04:13,238 --> 01:04:15,140
We sold
a million and one records

1487
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,541
in the first day.

1488
01:04:16,641 --> 01:04:19,210
<i>♪ I want to see you
out that door ♪</i>

1489
01:04:19,310 --> 01:04:21,812
<i>♪ Baby bye bye bye</i>

1490
01:04:21,913 --> 01:04:23,848
[Michael] <i>I think every boy band</i>

1491
01:04:23,949 --> 01:04:25,416
has a sore spot in their career

1492
01:04:25,516 --> 01:04:29,287
with somebody, the manager,
the producer, the record label.

1493
01:04:29,387 --> 01:04:31,990
I think it's just the nature
of the beast, man.

1494
01:04:32,457 --> 01:04:35,660
However, the Jacksons,
The Osmonds,

1495
01:04:35,961 --> 01:04:37,895
the talent was in the house.

1496
01:04:39,064 --> 01:04:42,867
<i>Then you have your manager
also in the same house.</i>

1497
01:04:43,901 --> 01:04:47,205
The work ethic my father
instilled in all of us

1498
01:04:47,305 --> 01:04:48,573
was second to none.

1499
01:04:48,673 --> 01:04:51,376
<i>I remember,
as a tiny little kid,</i>

1500
01:04:51,476 --> 01:04:53,979
<i>my brothers
in front of that piano,</i>

1501
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:56,014
<i>playing and learning the parts,</i>

1502
01:04:56,114 --> 01:04:59,951
and harmonizing to where
it was perfect.

1503
01:05:00,251 --> 01:05:02,353
My dad was an Army sergeant.

1504
01:05:03,354 --> 01:05:07,258
And so that infiltrated
in how he raised us.

1505
01:05:08,226 --> 01:05:10,528
<i>I never wanted
to disappoint my father.</i>

1506
01:05:11,162 --> 01:05:13,131
<i>When we hit big,</i>

1507
01:05:13,231 --> 01:05:15,200
father said, "Back in
the rehearsal hall.

1508
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:16,801
Learn a new number.

1509
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:20,305
<i>Keep this engine going."</i>

1510
01:05:21,672 --> 01:05:23,608
<i>And I think having
a very strong father figure</i>

1511
01:05:23,708 --> 01:05:25,410
was very important
for our success.

1512
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:28,613
However, it can go
a little overboard.

1513
01:05:29,847 --> 01:05:32,450
<i>I spent a lot of time
with Michael Jackson.</i>

1514
01:05:32,550 --> 01:05:35,353
<i>You look at The Osmonds
and the Jackson 5,</i>

1515
01:05:35,453 --> 01:05:36,988
the comparisons
of the two families

1516
01:05:37,088 --> 01:05:38,289
are just uncanny.

1517
01:05:38,389 --> 01:05:39,790
<i>There's nine children
in each family.</i>

1518
01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:42,827
<i>Mike and I both
the seventh child of nine.</i>

1519
01:05:43,294 --> 01:05:46,097
Our mothers' birthdays
are on the same day.

1520
01:05:46,597 --> 01:05:48,299
<i>Michael and I are the same age.</i>

1521
01:05:48,399 --> 01:05:50,168
<i>You and I are in
the same boat, really.</i>

1522
01:05:50,268 --> 01:05:53,171
Because we both sing
with a group

1523
01:05:53,271 --> 01:05:55,006
made of our own brothers.

1524
01:05:56,107 --> 01:05:57,875
Most of them older
and one younger.

1525
01:05:57,975 --> 01:05:59,377
- Right, right.
- That's it.

1526
01:05:59,777 --> 01:06:02,013
We get together
and we would just laugh

1527
01:06:02,113 --> 01:06:03,248
and reminisce about

1528
01:06:03,348 --> 01:06:05,383
the comparisons
and the similarities.

1529
01:06:05,483 --> 01:06:07,252
Michael said something
to me one day,

1530
01:06:07,352 --> 01:06:08,853
and he said, "Donny,

1531
01:06:09,754 --> 01:06:12,390
you're the only person
on this planet

1532
01:06:12,757 --> 01:06:14,859
that knows
what my childhood was like."

1533
01:06:17,895 --> 01:06:20,965
<i>And Mike would tell me
a lot of stories about Joe.</i>

1534
01:06:21,466 --> 01:06:23,268
[Joe] <i>I decided to deal
with the boys</i>

1535
01:06:23,368 --> 01:06:24,935
<i>as much as I possibly can</i>

1536
01:06:25,036 --> 01:06:26,504
as far as rehearsing them

1537
01:06:26,604 --> 01:06:29,174
and getting them prepared
to be in show business.

1538
01:06:29,540 --> 01:06:31,842
- Did they resent it?
- Yes.

1539
01:06:33,611 --> 01:06:35,980
[Tina] <i>Joe Jackson,
being their father</i>

1540
01:06:36,081 --> 01:06:37,382
<i>who was the driving force.</i>

1541
01:06:37,482 --> 01:06:39,450
And you think,
what would've happened

1542
01:06:39,550 --> 01:06:41,686
had that force
been more loving?"

1543
01:06:41,786 --> 01:06:44,089
Would Michael have
the difficulties

1544
01:06:44,189 --> 01:06:45,823
that he might've had
in his life?

1545
01:06:46,791 --> 01:06:49,794
<i>You have a kid who was
truly robbed of his childhood.</i>

1546
01:06:51,729 --> 01:06:53,098
[Donny] <i>When you look
at the dangers</i>

1547
01:06:53,198 --> 01:06:54,499
<i>of show business in general</i>

1548
01:06:54,599 --> 01:06:55,866
<i>whether you're a single artist</i>

1549
01:06:55,966 --> 01:06:56,867
<i>or a boy band,</i>

1550
01:06:56,967 --> 01:06:58,536
I don't know if I could've
been able

1551
01:06:58,636 --> 01:07:02,540
to survive show business
if I didn't have my family.

1552
01:07:06,744 --> 01:07:09,747
[Zac] <i>Our story is
highly influenced</i>

1553
01:07:09,847 --> 01:07:10,648
<i>by our parents</i>

1554
01:07:10,748 --> 01:07:13,084
<i>but not in the Hollywood way.</i>

1555
01:07:13,184 --> 01:07:14,585
They saw that all three of us

1556
01:07:14,685 --> 01:07:17,822
were getting a lot
out of making music.

1557
01:07:17,922 --> 01:07:19,690
[Isaac] <i>I remember Mom and Dad
coming back</i>

1558
01:07:19,790 --> 01:07:21,192
<i>from a date and they were like,</i>

1559
01:07:21,292 --> 01:07:22,760
<i>"You guys didn't clean up
the house.</i>

1560
01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:24,061
You didn't..."

1561
01:07:24,162 --> 01:07:25,863
And then Taylor was like,
"Yeah, but we wrote a song."

1562
01:07:25,963 --> 01:07:28,699
And then my dad was like,
"Well, it...

1563
01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:30,335
- "Is it any good?"
- "It better be good," yeah.

1564
01:07:30,435 --> 01:07:31,936
"How good is it?"

1565
01:07:32,036 --> 01:07:33,938
And so we sung the song, he
goes, "Oh, that's pretty good."

1566
01:07:34,038 --> 01:07:35,005
"That's worth no dishes."

1567
01:07:35,106 --> 01:07:36,107
"You're forgiven.
Now clean up the house."

1568
01:07:36,207 --> 01:07:37,708
Exactly. Exactly.

1569
01:07:37,808 --> 01:07:39,444
[Taylor] <i>When you see
your kids doing something</i>

1570
01:07:39,544 --> 01:07:40,978
<i>that seems productive
and positive,</i>

1571
01:07:41,078 --> 01:07:42,347
<i>you wanna support it.</i>

1572
01:07:42,447 --> 01:07:44,415
<i>We are proud to be</i>

1573
01:07:44,515 --> 01:07:46,517
<i>in the heritage of great bands</i>

1574
01:07:46,617 --> 01:07:48,018
<i>that have brothers in them.</i>

1575
01:07:48,753 --> 01:07:51,856
<i>The Bee Gees,
come on, the singing.</i>

1576
01:07:51,956 --> 01:07:53,391
<i>And The Isley Brothers.</i>

1577
01:07:53,491 --> 01:07:55,293
<i>Isaac Brothers and their groove.</i>

1578
01:07:55,393 --> 01:07:59,297
They're singing
with their instruments.

1579
01:07:59,697 --> 01:08:01,732
In My Room <i>by The Beach Boys.</i>

1580
01:08:01,832 --> 01:08:03,768
<i>And there were three brothers
in The Beach Boys.</i>

1581
01:08:03,868 --> 01:08:06,036
<i>With brothers in bands,
oftentimes</i>

1582
01:08:06,137 --> 01:08:08,773
<i>you get that organic thing
that you can't fabricate.</i>

1583
01:08:08,873 --> 01:08:12,277
It is the closest thing
you have to your own voice,

1584
01:08:12,377 --> 01:08:13,944
is your siblings.

1585
01:08:14,345 --> 01:08:15,780
Let us know when.

1586
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,114
[Crew] <i>Whenever you're ready.
It's just practice.</i>

1587
01:08:17,215 --> 01:08:19,083
Cool. Hey,
we're the Jonas Brothers.

1588
01:08:19,684 --> 01:08:21,519
And you're supposed to talk.

1589
01:08:24,088 --> 01:08:25,623
I was supposed to talk.

1590
01:08:29,260 --> 01:08:30,328
At one point in time, I wanted

1591
01:08:30,428 --> 01:08:32,096
to go into
the Christian music world.

1592
01:08:32,563 --> 01:08:34,599
<i>So I had an assistant who said,</i>

1593
01:08:34,699 --> 01:08:38,336
<i>"There's this young kid who's
signed to Columbia Records.</i>

1594
01:08:38,436 --> 01:08:39,704
<i>His name is Nick Jonas.</i>

1595
01:08:39,804 --> 01:08:41,572
<i>I saw him on a couple of thing.</i>

1596
01:08:41,672 --> 01:08:43,208
<i>His dad's a pastor.</i>

1597
01:08:43,308 --> 01:08:45,075
<i>And he'll be eager to meet you"</i>

1598
01:08:45,176 --> 01:08:47,312
<i>So I went to meet them</i>

1599
01:08:47,412 --> 01:08:50,648
and Nick's brothers
were his backup band.

1600
01:08:51,148 --> 01:08:53,284
So I watched them perform.

1601
01:08:53,784 --> 01:08:57,087
<i>And they were great,
so I became their manager.</i>

1602
01:08:57,188 --> 01:09:00,358
[crowd screaming]

1603
01:09:00,458 --> 01:09:02,293
And then Steve Greenberg

1604
01:09:02,860 --> 01:09:05,196
<i>who was the originator of Hansen</i>

1605
01:09:05,296 --> 01:09:07,565
<i>took over Columbia Records.</i>

1606
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:09,767
[Steve] <i>In 2004,</i>

1607
01:09:09,867 --> 01:09:12,136
when I took the job,
they gave me a pile

1608
01:09:12,370 --> 01:09:14,605
<i>of unreleased albums by acts</i>

1609
01:09:14,705 --> 01:09:16,841
<i>that they were gonna drop
from the label.</i>

1610
01:09:17,608 --> 01:09:20,778
<i>And then I hit
this Christian pop album</i>

1611
01:09:20,878 --> 01:09:23,648
<i>by a kid named Nicholas Jonas.</i>

1612
01:09:23,748 --> 01:09:25,483
<i>And I was amazed.</i>

1613
01:09:25,583 --> 01:09:27,752
<i>He sounded like Taylor Hanson.</i>

1614
01:09:27,852 --> 01:09:29,186
And I thought, "Wait a second.

1615
01:09:29,287 --> 01:09:30,488
I wanna meet this kid."

1616
01:09:30,588 --> 01:09:31,989
So he calls me and he goes,

1617
01:09:32,089 --> 01:09:34,425
"I saw that you're managing
this kid named Nick Jonas.

1618
01:09:34,825 --> 01:09:36,661
<i>I don't really have a need
for a Christian kid.</i>

1619
01:09:36,761 --> 01:09:38,162
<i>So before I drop him,</i>

1620
01:09:38,263 --> 01:09:40,030
<i>I just want you to tell me
a little bit about him."</i>

1621
01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:42,199
And I said, "Well, if you're
not moving forward

1622
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:43,334
in the Christian world,

1623
01:09:43,434 --> 01:09:45,570
I saw him perform
with his brothers.

1624
01:09:45,970 --> 01:09:48,172
Maybe if I can convince
the family

1625
01:09:48,273 --> 01:09:49,640
that this is the thing to do,

1626
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:52,310
you could have
the second coming of Hanson."

1627
01:09:53,378 --> 01:09:56,847
[Steve] <i>They came in
and they played instruments.</i>

1628
01:09:56,947 --> 01:09:58,716
And I'm like, "Great,
you're a band."

1629
01:09:58,816 --> 01:10:00,485
So I thought, "I know
how to do this.

1630
01:10:00,585 --> 01:10:01,786
It's three brothers."

1631
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,856
The album came out and that
became the Jonas Brothers.

1632
01:10:07,224 --> 01:10:09,927
That first album had <i>Year 3000.</i>

1633
01:10:10,027 --> 01:10:14,198
<i>♪ He said
"I've been to the year 3000 ♪</i>

1634
01:10:17,868 --> 01:10:20,905
And slowly but surely
we all fell in love with them.

1635
01:10:21,005 --> 01:10:23,541
TRL, show some love
for the Jonas Brothers.

1636
01:10:23,641 --> 01:10:26,811
[fans screaming]
[chanting] Jonas, Jonas, Jonas!

1637
01:10:26,911 --> 01:10:28,012
It's great.

1638
01:10:29,046 --> 01:10:31,682
[Woman] <i>The Jonas Brothers
were a rock band</i>

1639
01:10:31,782 --> 01:10:33,751
<i>and had a punk edge to them.</i>

1640
01:10:33,851 --> 01:10:36,621
But they also had
a good-boy Christian image.

1641
01:10:36,721 --> 01:10:38,289
[Interviewer] What do you guys
look for in a girl?

1642
01:10:38,389 --> 01:10:40,124
Somebody that our mom loves.

1643
01:10:40,224 --> 01:10:41,326
Yes, it's important.

1644
01:10:41,426 --> 01:10:42,893
And our dad, of course.

1645
01:10:43,828 --> 01:10:45,129
I was obsessed
with the Jonas Brothers

1646
01:10:45,229 --> 01:10:46,297
just as much as her.

1647
01:10:46,397 --> 01:10:47,998
We grew up on Disney channel.

1648
01:10:48,699 --> 01:10:50,301
<i>The Jonas Brothers
were very clean,</i>

1649
01:10:50,401 --> 01:10:52,370
<i>like Hannah Montana, very clean.</i>

1650
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:54,472
[Lance] <i>Because
you have to remember,</i>

1651
01:10:54,572 --> 01:10:57,308
with boy bands,
it's family audience.

1652
01:10:58,008 --> 01:10:59,677
[Chris] <i>And because of that,</i>

1653
01:10:59,777 --> 01:11:02,380
<i>there were
some crazy boy band rules.</i>

1654
01:11:02,647 --> 01:11:04,415
And a lot of those rules

1655
01:11:04,515 --> 01:11:07,151
I'd challenged
from the beginning.

1656
01:11:07,918 --> 01:11:09,487
[Lance] <i>Record labels
and management,</i>

1657
01:11:09,587 --> 01:11:11,422
we would always have
these comparison stories.

1658
01:11:11,522 --> 01:11:12,490
We're backstage...

1659
01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:13,758
[Lance] <i>Like the New Kids,</i>

1660
01:11:13,858 --> 01:11:15,192
<i>Donnie would do
da, da, da, da, dah,</i>

1661
01:11:15,292 --> 01:11:18,696
so you knew you were being
told not to do this.

1662
01:11:18,796 --> 01:11:20,064
"Nobody can have tattoos."

1663
01:11:20,164 --> 01:11:22,800
Boom, I'm like, "All right,
let me get some tattoos."

1664
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:25,102
They would say, "Hey,
shave your moustache.

1665
01:11:25,202 --> 01:11:26,571
Hold onto your youth."

1666
01:11:26,671 --> 01:11:29,507
You can't be Fatstreet.
That is not cute."

1667
01:11:29,607 --> 01:11:31,742
Never had a drink
in your hand or a cigarette.

1668
01:11:31,842 --> 01:11:33,243
"Nobody can ride motorcycles."

1669
01:11:33,344 --> 01:11:36,080
Boom, bought a motorcycle.
Brought it on tour with me.

1670
01:11:36,180 --> 01:11:37,348
No girlfriends

1671
01:11:37,448 --> 01:11:41,251
because that would take away
the dream of the fan.

1672
01:11:41,352 --> 01:11:42,620
Why don't you have a girlfriend?

1673
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,690
Because I'm in too many places
at one time.

1674
01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:47,925
And I'm like, "Screw you.
I got a girlfriend now."

1675
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:53,998
The Jonas Brothers, they weren't
allowed to talk about sex.

1676
01:11:55,099 --> 01:11:56,601
[Johnny] <i>With
the Jonas Brothers,</i>

1677
01:11:56,701 --> 01:11:59,336
<i>each one of them
would wear a purity ring.</i>

1678
01:12:00,505 --> 01:12:03,641
<i>And what we loved about
the Christian aspect of it</i>

1679
01:12:03,741 --> 01:12:05,876
<i>was, if you have a daughter</i>

1680
01:12:05,976 --> 01:12:07,412
who's coming to a show,

1681
01:12:07,512 --> 01:12:08,713
she's not coming alone,

1682
01:12:08,813 --> 01:12:10,114
so she's gonna bring a friend.

1683
01:12:10,214 --> 01:12:12,650
And Mom's not letting the two
go by themself,

1684
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:14,685
so either her or the dad comes.

1685
01:12:14,785 --> 01:12:17,788
So for one fan,
we sold three tickets.

1686
01:12:18,956 --> 01:12:23,127
They're literally going
from the garage to stadiums.

1687
01:12:23,628 --> 01:12:26,096
This is the stage.
It's 144 feet long.

1688
01:12:26,196 --> 01:12:28,165
<i>Every seat in the house
is a good seat</i>

1689
01:12:28,265 --> 01:12:29,400
<i>and we are very happy</i>

1690
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:30,601
because we owe it to our fans

1691
01:12:30,701 --> 01:12:32,302
for bringing us
to this place, for sure.

1692
01:12:34,539 --> 01:12:36,607
[Amber] <i>2007 to 2009,
I would say,</i>

1693
01:12:36,707 --> 01:12:38,175
<i>is their peak.</i>

1694
01:12:38,275 --> 01:12:40,945
<i>And the Internet was
just becoming seen as a way</i>

1695
01:12:41,045 --> 01:12:43,380
to know your favorite celebrity.

1696
01:12:43,481 --> 01:12:46,817
They would talk to you directly
through their livestream.

1697
01:12:46,917 --> 01:12:48,553
Hey, what's up, everybody?
We're the Jonas Brothers.

1698
01:12:48,653 --> 01:12:49,920
- I'm Nick.
- I'm Kevin.

1699
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:50,821
I'm Joe.

1700
01:12:50,921 --> 01:12:52,890
And you are on our Myspace page.

1701
01:12:52,990 --> 01:12:55,259
Pictures, blogs,
everything, check it out.

1702
01:12:55,359 --> 01:12:57,027
[Brittany] <i>At that time,
a lot of artists</i>

1703
01:12:57,127 --> 01:12:58,563
were still trying to figure out

1704
01:12:58,663 --> 01:12:59,730
how to use social media.

1705
01:13:00,330 --> 01:13:02,833
[John] <i>I think, probably,
the earliest best example</i>

1706
01:13:02,933 --> 01:13:05,536
<i>of social media being used</i>

1707
01:13:05,636 --> 01:13:08,739
for getting your music
and image,

1708
01:13:08,839 --> 01:13:10,675
importantly, out there

1709
01:13:10,775 --> 01:13:12,710
<i>is Justin Bieber.</i>

1710
01:13:12,810 --> 01:13:15,279
[Van] <i>Bieber was able to grow</i>

1711
01:13:15,379 --> 01:13:18,182
from just doing a song
on a street corner

1712
01:13:18,282 --> 01:13:21,318
to being able to perform
and sing and write

1713
01:13:21,418 --> 01:13:22,720
<i>all because of YouTube.</i>

1714
01:13:22,820 --> 01:13:26,156
<i>♪ Like baby, baby, baby, no</i>

1715
01:13:26,256 --> 01:13:29,494
<i>♪ I thought you'd always be
mine ♪</i>

1716
01:13:30,595 --> 01:13:33,263
[Lyndsey] <i>At that point,
YouTube had only been around</i>

1717
01:13:33,363 --> 01:13:34,599
<i>for a few years.</i>

1718
01:13:34,699 --> 01:13:36,701
<i>Even Facebook was pretty new.</i>

1719
01:13:37,067 --> 01:13:39,269
And Twitter was very new.

1720
01:13:40,204 --> 01:13:43,073
One of the first accounts
for a boy band

1721
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:45,209
<i>that I ever saw on Twitter</i>

1722
01:13:45,309 --> 01:13:47,044
<i>- was One Direction.</i>
- [both] <i>One Direction.</i>

1723
01:13:48,178 --> 01:13:50,981
But I don't think anyone saw
One Direction coming.

1724
01:13:51,315 --> 01:13:52,182
Hello.

1725
01:13:52,282 --> 01:13:53,584
Nice to meet you.
What's your name?

1726
01:13:53,684 --> 01:13:54,985
I'm Harry Styles.

1727
01:13:55,085 --> 01:13:57,354
[Amanda] <i>They all came
to X Factor in 2010</i>

1728
01:13:57,454 --> 01:13:59,223
<i>and auditioned separately.</i>

1729
01:14:00,024 --> 01:14:02,927
[Woman] <i>The first time
I discovered One Direction,</i>

1730
01:14:03,293 --> 01:14:04,529
was in my dorm room.

1731
01:14:04,629 --> 01:14:06,296
I was surfing YouTube

1732
01:14:06,396 --> 01:14:08,866
and my life changed forever.

1733
01:14:10,467 --> 01:14:11,802
<i>I was like, "Who are they?</i>

1734
01:14:11,902 --> 01:14:13,370
What's happening here?"

1735
01:14:13,470 --> 01:14:14,739
And then it was rabbit hole.

1736
01:14:14,839 --> 01:14:16,273
<i>♪ One, two, three</i>

1737
01:14:16,373 --> 01:14:20,244
<i>♪ How we danced all night
to the best song ever ♪</i>

1738
01:14:23,047 --> 01:14:25,983
[Amanda] <i>And then in order to
help them on X Factor,</i>

1739
01:14:26,083 --> 01:14:28,786
Twitter was this thing
where you could tell everybody

1740
01:14:28,886 --> 01:14:31,421
to just support One Direction.

1741
01:14:31,522 --> 01:14:33,524
[Host] <i>One Direction do not
wanna leave tonight.</i>

1742
01:14:33,624 --> 01:14:34,692
<i>Call that number.</i>

1743
01:14:34,792 --> 01:14:37,895
We see these
15, 16 year old boys

1744
01:14:37,995 --> 01:14:39,429
shuffle onto that stage

1745
01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:40,998
with a heart full of hope.

1746
01:14:41,098 --> 01:14:43,100
Hoping that their dream
will happen for them.

1747
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,270
<i>And you get to feel like
a stakeholder in their dream.</i>

1748
01:14:46,370 --> 01:14:48,873
[Amanda] <i>And then
the One Direction fandom</i>

1749
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,108
<i>spread on the Internet</i>

1750
01:14:51,208 --> 01:14:52,910
- worldwide.
- Around the world.

1751
01:14:53,711 --> 01:14:56,113
[screaming fans]

1752
01:14:56,213 --> 01:14:57,648
We made a short film called

1753
01:14:57,748 --> 01:14:58,949
<i>The Day I Didn't Meet
One Direction.</i>

1754
01:14:59,049 --> 01:15:01,552
We've got 10 hours
until concert.

1755
01:15:01,652 --> 01:15:03,788
I will meet these boys today.

1756
01:15:06,657 --> 01:15:08,025
Discovering them on Twitter

1757
01:15:08,125 --> 01:15:11,161
was like discovering a sovereign
nation of teenage girls.

1758
01:15:11,261 --> 01:15:13,698
[Woman] <i>Twitter is what sent
One Direction</i>

1759
01:15:13,798 --> 01:15:14,932
<i>straight to the top.</i>

1760
01:15:15,032 --> 01:15:17,401
I had a One Direction
fan account.

1761
01:15:17,968 --> 01:15:19,136
<i>That's where fangirls thrive.</i>

1762
01:15:19,236 --> 01:15:21,105
<i>That's where we
get the information.</i>

1763
01:15:21,205 --> 01:15:22,673
Spreading the word, making sure

1764
01:15:22,773 --> 01:15:25,943
<i>that everyone knew exactly
where they were at all times.</i>

1765
01:15:26,043 --> 01:15:27,745
[Amber] <i>Where they were staying
at the hotel,</i>

1766
01:15:27,845 --> 01:15:29,079
when their flight was landing.

1767
01:15:29,179 --> 01:15:32,449
It was like, "I saw Harry
walking down the street.

1768
01:15:33,117 --> 01:15:35,953
<i>Harry was just seen
in the guitar store,"</i>

1769
01:15:36,053 --> 01:15:37,855
and we would run there.

1770
01:15:43,093 --> 01:15:45,996
<i>I swear One Direction fans
are like the CIA.</i>

1771
01:15:46,096 --> 01:15:48,098
We had eyes on them.

1772
01:15:54,872 --> 01:15:57,307
<i>One Direction
released five albums</i>

1773
01:15:57,407 --> 01:15:58,709
<i>in five years.</i>

1774
01:15:59,409 --> 01:16:02,446
They went on tour
every single year.

1775
01:16:03,247 --> 01:16:06,717
<i>They were recording
their next album while touring.</i>

1776
01:16:06,817 --> 01:16:09,987
[Woman] <i>It was album,
promo, tour,</i>

1777
01:16:10,087 --> 01:16:11,355
<i>album, promo, tour.</i>

1778
01:16:11,455 --> 01:16:12,823
There was no breaks.

1779
01:16:13,223 --> 01:16:14,692
[Amanda] <i>So it was
just go, go, go.</i>

1780
01:16:14,792 --> 01:16:16,393
I think
that was a lot of burnout.

1781
01:16:21,098 --> 01:16:25,002
And Zayn tragically left
in the middle of a tour.

1782
01:16:25,102 --> 01:16:30,207
[military siren wailing]

1783
01:16:30,975 --> 01:16:33,678
I remember. I sobbed.

1784
01:16:33,778 --> 01:16:36,714
I cried all day
because it was like

1785
01:16:36,814 --> 01:16:38,916
One Direction are the five.

1786
01:16:40,017 --> 01:16:43,020
<i>And I think if they had
been given time</i>

1787
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,856
<i>to rest and breathe,</i>

1788
01:16:45,956 --> 01:16:48,525
<i>they might've been together
a lot longer.</i>

1789
01:16:49,259 --> 01:16:52,262
Zayn Malik left the band
One Direction.

1790
01:16:52,362 --> 01:16:54,598
And this was
a global news event.

1791
01:16:54,699 --> 01:16:56,000
Zayn Malik.

1792
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:58,002
[Woman] <i>He's shocking fans
by walking away</i>

1793
01:16:58,102 --> 01:17:01,205
<i>from one of the most popular
bands in the world.</i>

1794
01:17:01,839 --> 01:17:04,141
[Amanda] <i>I think it was
the combination of burnout</i>

1795
01:17:04,241 --> 01:17:06,944
but also being like,
"I would like to be

1796
01:17:07,044 --> 01:17:09,446
the first one to leave
to try to do a solo tour."

1797
01:17:12,549 --> 01:17:16,086
[Tracey] <i>When an artist
is so entrenched</i>

1798
01:17:16,186 --> 01:17:18,723
<i>in the history of a band,</i>

1799
01:17:18,823 --> 01:17:20,357
<i>and they break out solo,</i>

1800
01:17:20,457 --> 01:17:23,393
it's all about
that first single.

1801
01:17:23,493 --> 01:17:25,996
<i>That first single
is making a statement</i>

1802
01:17:26,096 --> 01:17:27,531
<i>as to who they are</i>

1803
01:17:27,631 --> 01:17:29,133
<i>as a solo artist.</i>

1804
01:17:29,233 --> 01:17:30,935
<i>So you have to come out
of the box</i>

1805
01:17:31,035 --> 01:17:32,469
with something big.

1806
01:17:33,570 --> 01:17:34,905
[Woman] <i>If you think about
the way</i>

1807
01:17:35,005 --> 01:17:36,907
<i>that Michael Jackson's
career went,</i>

1808
01:17:37,007 --> 01:17:40,077
<i>he was at the forefront
of the Jackson 5</i>

1809
01:17:40,177 --> 01:17:43,347
<i>for decades before
becoming a solo artist.</i>

1810
01:17:44,849 --> 01:17:46,784
[Suzanne] <i>At Motown 25,</i>

1811
01:17:46,884 --> 01:17:50,387
Michael wanted
to perform <i>Billie Jean.</i>

1812
01:17:53,724 --> 01:17:55,860
<i>That's when he did the moonwalk.</i>

1813
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,028
<i>It's a piece of music history.</i>

1814
01:18:00,530 --> 01:18:03,901
<i>I don't think any artist
has ever hit the world stage</i>

1815
01:18:04,001 --> 01:18:05,702
<i>with that kind of success.</i>

1816
01:18:05,803 --> 01:18:07,371
<i>That was fuel.</i>

1817
01:18:07,471 --> 01:18:11,075
<i>It changed the trajectory
of Michael Jackson's career.</i>

1818
01:18:12,877 --> 01:18:14,344
[Michael] <i>After New Edition,</i>

1819
01:18:14,444 --> 01:18:16,814
<i>Bobby went out the coop first</i>

1820
01:18:17,181 --> 01:18:18,916
<i>and then Ralph Tresvant.</i>

1821
01:18:19,016 --> 01:18:21,085
<i>Johnny Gill went out the coop.</i>

1822
01:18:21,185 --> 01:18:23,287
<i>Bell, Biv, DeVoe came last.</i>

1823
01:18:23,888 --> 01:18:25,089
<i>It was natural procession.</i>

1824
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:27,457
It was growth spurts.
It was just elbow room.

1825
01:18:27,724 --> 01:18:29,093
<i>It was destiny.</i>

1826
01:18:29,193 --> 01:18:32,129
<i>We went from a group
to four entities</i>

1827
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:34,832
<i>who became
platinum-selling artists.</i>

1828
01:18:34,932 --> 01:18:38,068
That was the success of us
as solo artists.

1829
01:18:38,168 --> 01:18:39,904
<i>And look what it did.</i>

1830
01:18:40,404 --> 01:18:43,340
Bell, Biv, DeVoe created
a different genre

1831
01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:45,709
of how the boy band evolved

1832
01:18:46,076 --> 01:18:48,078
from just a "bubblegum" style

1833
01:18:48,178 --> 01:18:50,547
to the street style
of hip-hop and R&B.

1834
01:18:50,647 --> 01:18:53,217
<i>♪ That girl is poison</i>

1835
01:18:53,317 --> 01:18:55,752
<i>We all did
infectious rhythm of</i> Poison.

1836
01:18:57,121 --> 01:18:58,956
<i>You had the hardcore drum.</i>

1837
01:18:59,056 --> 01:19:00,124
You had a yah, cah, da, dah,

1838
01:19:00,224 --> 01:19:01,625
cah, da, da, da, dah, bam.

1839
01:19:03,627 --> 01:19:06,496
It spawned
a whole nother generation

1840
01:19:06,596 --> 01:19:09,766
of an R&B group
with a street appeal.

1841
01:19:10,467 --> 01:19:12,402
[Host] <i>Let me give you
Justin Timberlake.</i>

1842
01:19:12,502 --> 01:19:15,139
[Johnny] <i>With NSYNC,
Justin exploded.</i>

1843
01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:16,807
[Host] <i>He is hotter than
the surface</i>

1844
01:19:16,907 --> 01:19:17,875
<i>of Mercury right now.</i>

1845
01:19:17,975 --> 01:19:19,209
[Johnny] <i>NSYNC was on fire.</i>

1846
01:19:19,309 --> 01:19:20,644
But they were out on a run

1847
01:19:20,744 --> 01:19:22,746
for a long
four-and-a-half years straight.

1848
01:19:22,847 --> 01:19:26,817
<i>So the conversation was,
"Let's take six months off,</i>

1849
01:19:26,917 --> 01:19:28,385
<i>and then we'll regroup."</i>

1850
01:19:28,485 --> 01:19:30,187
And then Justin's point was,

1851
01:19:30,287 --> 01:19:32,322
"Well, if there's gonna be
no group activity,

1852
01:19:32,422 --> 01:19:35,092
I've got all this music
built up inside of me

1853
01:19:35,192 --> 01:19:36,360
that I've been thinking about.

1854
01:19:36,460 --> 01:19:38,595
I'm gonna go work
on a solo record."

1855
01:19:38,695 --> 01:19:40,264
Within five weeks,

1856
01:19:40,364 --> 01:19:42,900
he put the <i>Justified</i> album
together.

1857
01:19:43,567 --> 01:19:46,003
<i>And based on the success
of that record,</i>

1858
01:19:46,103 --> 01:19:47,604
<i>MTV game him a look</i>

1859
01:19:47,704 --> 01:19:50,307
<i>for the first performance
on the MTV Awards.</i>

1860
01:19:50,407 --> 01:19:52,309
<i>Came out in that boom box.</i>

1861
01:19:52,409 --> 01:19:54,444
And at that point, it was on.

1862
01:19:54,544 --> 01:19:56,646
<i>♪ Sing this song with me</i>

1863
01:19:57,381 --> 01:20:00,250
<i>♪ Ain't nobody love you
like I love you ♪</i>

1864
01:20:01,451 --> 01:20:04,188
<i>♪ You're a good girl and that's
what makes me trust ya ♪</i>

1865
01:20:04,754 --> 01:20:07,324
[Johnny] <i>I think that there's
always members of the band</i>

1866
01:20:07,424 --> 01:20:09,493
<i>that feel that they could
step up and go solo.</i>

1867
01:20:09,593 --> 01:20:11,795
<i>Whether they're successful
or not,</i>

1868
01:20:11,896 --> 01:20:13,130
it's questionable.

1869
01:20:13,230 --> 01:20:16,466
And, usually, you might get one,

1870
01:20:16,566 --> 01:20:17,767
<i>maybe two,</i>

1871
01:20:17,868 --> 01:20:19,569
<i>but for everybody else,</i>

1872
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:21,972
sometimes it's the end
of their career.

1873
01:20:22,072 --> 01:20:23,640
[Announcer] <i>Here they are.</i>

1874
01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:25,910
[Michael] <i>The music business
teaches you</i>

1875
01:20:26,010 --> 01:20:27,411
<i>how to hold on,</i>

1876
01:20:27,511 --> 01:20:29,179
<i>how to believe in yourself.</i>

1877
01:20:29,279 --> 01:20:31,515
But what it doesn't
prepare you for

1878
01:20:31,615 --> 01:20:33,283
is your downfall.

1879
01:20:34,384 --> 01:20:36,453
[AJ] <i>With Backstreet Boys,</i>

1880
01:20:36,553 --> 01:20:38,588
<i>there is never a breakup.</i>

1881
01:20:39,056 --> 01:20:44,261
But 2001 was a really dark time.

1882
01:20:45,362 --> 01:20:47,331
<i>We had toured
for nine years straight,</i>

1883
01:20:47,431 --> 01:20:49,166
<i>just go on tour, make an album,</i>

1884
01:20:49,266 --> 01:20:50,834
<i>go on tour, make an album.</i>

1885
01:20:52,036 --> 01:20:56,373
And instead of dealing with
my real emotions or my feelings,

1886
01:20:57,107 --> 01:20:59,009
kinda got caught up
in the lifestyle,

1887
01:20:59,843 --> 01:21:02,846
<i>and the partying
and the drinking and the drugs.</i>

1888
01:21:03,447 --> 01:21:05,482
<i>And it wasn't until I did</i>

1889
01:21:05,582 --> 01:21:07,284
<i>what I told myself
I would never do</i>

1890
01:21:07,384 --> 01:21:08,885
<i>which was drink on stage,</i>

1891
01:21:09,386 --> 01:21:11,989
<i>that's when I even had
to know like,</i>

1892
01:21:12,089 --> 01:21:14,624
"Okay, dude, something's
not right."

1893
01:21:15,725 --> 01:21:19,763
<i>And the day that I flew
from tour</i>

1894
01:21:20,030 --> 01:21:21,565
<i>into rehab,</i>

1895
01:21:21,665 --> 01:21:24,768
<i>everybody was just at
their wit's end.</i>

1896
01:21:26,270 --> 01:21:28,072
<i>And then Kevin left</i>

1897
01:21:28,572 --> 01:21:31,908
for six years
to go start a family.

1898
01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:33,610
<i>And we gave him our blessing.</i>

1899
01:21:33,710 --> 01:21:35,412
<i>He gave us his blessing
to continue as four</i>

1900
01:21:35,512 --> 01:21:37,281
<i>and we kept going without him.</i>

1901
01:21:41,218 --> 01:21:42,886
[Lance] <i>2002 was our last tour.</i>

1902
01:21:44,154 --> 01:21:45,622
<i>Justin was gonna start
his solo album</i>

1903
01:21:45,722 --> 01:21:47,357
which we were
super supportive of.

1904
01:21:47,457 --> 01:21:49,326
I thought that was a great idea.

1905
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,795
<i>The label told us, "Look,</i>

1906
01:21:51,895 --> 01:21:53,363
<i>come back in six months."</i>

1907
01:21:53,463 --> 01:21:54,999
<i>And we were supposed to go
right into the next album.</i>

1908
01:21:55,099 --> 01:21:56,066
That just never happened.

1909
01:21:56,166 --> 01:21:57,234
So it just phased out

1910
01:21:57,334 --> 01:21:58,935
without any fanfare at all,

1911
01:21:59,036 --> 01:22:00,670
with no goodbye.

1912
01:22:01,438 --> 01:22:04,274
<i>We just never got back together.</i>

1913
01:22:05,909 --> 01:22:07,177
[Chris] <i>It was hard.</i>

1914
01:22:07,744 --> 01:22:09,479
There was a lot
of animosity at first.

1915
01:22:09,579 --> 01:22:11,148
There was a lot of anger.

1916
01:22:11,248 --> 01:22:13,650
There was a lot of resentment.

1917
01:22:14,784 --> 01:22:15,852
<i>I remember thinking,</i>

1918
01:22:15,952 --> 01:22:17,754
<i>"Are we ever getting back
together again?"</i>

1919
01:22:18,455 --> 01:22:21,458
It was just a very confusing
part of our life right there

1920
01:22:21,558 --> 01:22:23,593
'cause we didn't know
what was happening.

1921
01:22:24,394 --> 01:22:25,762
[Johnny] <i>From Justin's
standpoint,</i>

1922
01:22:25,862 --> 01:22:27,631
<i>when he's got the number-one
album in the country</i>

1923
01:22:27,731 --> 01:22:29,566
<i>and he's got offers
to tour the world,</i>

1924
01:22:29,666 --> 01:22:32,002
it's like, how do you
come back to that?

1925
01:22:32,102 --> 01:22:34,438
"I gotta fulfill this.

1926
01:22:34,871 --> 01:22:36,440
<i>It's not that
I'm saying goodbye.</i>

1927
01:22:36,540 --> 01:22:38,508
<i>It's just that
I can't stop this."</i>

1928
01:22:38,608 --> 01:22:40,644
[Lance] <i>And business-wise,
I get that.</i>

1929
01:22:40,744 --> 01:22:43,380
<i>Justin has the most talent
in the world.</i>

1930
01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:45,949
<i>And we wanted
to give him that respect.</i>

1931
01:22:46,583 --> 01:22:48,318
But tell us that.

1932
01:22:52,256 --> 01:22:53,990
[Johnny] <i>With One Direction,</i>

1933
01:22:54,091 --> 01:22:56,593
<i>every member went solo</i>

1934
01:22:56,693 --> 01:22:59,596
<i>and every member had
a top 10 record,</i>

1935
01:22:59,696 --> 01:23:01,765
which was absolutely amazing.

1936
01:23:02,932 --> 01:23:06,136
<i>And, obviously, Harry has
gone on to be global.</i>

1937
01:23:06,570 --> 01:23:08,405
[Lyndsey] <i>Harry Styles has,
at this point,</i>

1938
01:23:08,505 --> 01:23:11,308
<i>a bigger solo career
than One Direction's career was.</i>

1939
01:23:11,708 --> 01:23:15,312
He won a Grammy
for Album of the Year.

1940
01:23:15,412 --> 01:23:17,447
[Woman] <i>Harry Styles!</i>

1941
01:23:18,482 --> 01:23:20,050
[Lyndsey] <i>The only
boy band artists</i>

1942
01:23:20,150 --> 01:23:23,220
<i>that have also done that
would be Michael Jackson,</i>

1943
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,490
<i>Justin Timberlake,
and George Michael.</i>

1944
01:23:27,491 --> 01:23:31,961
Shit. This is so, so nice.
Thank you very, very much.

1945
01:23:33,163 --> 01:23:36,300
[Lyndsey] <i>Most boy bands,
when a key member leaves,</i>

1946
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:37,801
they don't continue on.

1947
01:23:38,502 --> 01:23:41,438
<i>It felt like the end
of the boy band era.</i>

1948
01:23:43,173 --> 01:23:45,242
But if you're
a One Direction fan,

1949
01:23:45,342 --> 01:23:47,777
you're probably a K-pop fan now.

1950
01:23:48,845 --> 01:23:50,247
[Lyndsey] <i>The western world
realized</i>

1951
01:23:50,347 --> 01:23:53,850
<i>that K-pop is something
they can't ignore.</i>

1952
01:23:54,784 --> 01:23:56,486
[Man] <i>These groups tend to be</i>

1953
01:23:56,586 --> 01:23:59,723
<i>anywhere from 4 to 13 members.</i>

1954
01:23:59,823 --> 01:24:01,825
<i>And they come together
to make something</i>

1955
01:24:01,925 --> 01:24:04,661
<i>that we've never seen
as a group.</i>

1956
01:24:06,596 --> 01:24:08,398
We are here with BTS.

1957
01:24:08,498 --> 01:24:10,367
I know the Army out there
is going crazy.

1958
01:24:10,467 --> 01:24:13,036
'Cause we got the guys
that are smooth like butter.

1959
01:24:13,137 --> 01:24:14,738
Yeah.

1960
01:24:14,838 --> 01:24:18,342
<i>♪ Smooth like butter
like a criminal undercover ♪</i>

1961
01:24:19,476 --> 01:24:20,844
[Amanda] <i>I am not shocked at all</i>

1962
01:24:20,944 --> 01:24:24,614
that K-pop is the next
boy band successor.

1963
01:24:24,948 --> 01:24:26,450
They're beautiful.

1964
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:28,452
And they can sing beautifully

1965
01:24:28,552 --> 01:24:30,654
and dance really beautifully.

1966
01:24:31,655 --> 01:24:34,224
With K-pop, there's just
this consistent theme

1967
01:24:34,324 --> 01:24:36,360
of marrying the old
with the new.

1968
01:24:36,826 --> 01:24:39,296
<i>You can just see the influence</i>

1969
01:24:39,396 --> 01:24:41,465
<i>of even Michael Jackson.</i>

1970
01:24:45,135 --> 01:24:46,570
[Tracey] <i>They are living</i>

1971
01:24:46,670 --> 01:24:49,606
<i>and breathing
and sleeping music.</i>

1972
01:24:51,375 --> 01:24:53,177
And that's not
that much different

1973
01:24:53,277 --> 01:24:55,645
than what Berry Gordy did
with Motown.

1974
01:24:56,613 --> 01:24:59,349
[Lance] <i>With K-pop, I'm sure
they looked at</i>

1975
01:24:59,449 --> 01:25:01,251
what happened
in Orlando, Florida,

1976
01:25:01,685 --> 01:25:04,087
<i>with training boy bands
to dance,</i>

1977
01:25:04,188 --> 01:25:06,556
<i>but took it to the next level.</i>

1978
01:25:08,658 --> 01:25:10,093
[Brittany] <i>It's great to see</i>

1979
01:25:10,194 --> 01:25:12,462
<i>that NSYNC, Backstreet Boys
style of choreography</i>

1980
01:25:12,562 --> 01:25:14,931
<i>come alive in all these groups</i>

1981
01:25:15,031 --> 01:25:17,501
like BTS and Seventeen.

1982
01:25:18,868 --> 01:25:21,471
[Man] <i>Seventeen is
the largest K-pop boy band</i>

1983
01:25:21,571 --> 01:25:23,607
<i>operating right now
with 13 members</i>

1984
01:25:23,707 --> 01:25:26,710
<i>and they have members
who are Chinese,</i>

1985
01:25:26,810 --> 01:25:29,513
<i>who have grown up in America,
who are also Korean,</i>

1986
01:25:29,613 --> 01:25:33,049
and their last album
sold five million copies

1987
01:25:33,149 --> 01:25:34,951
in its first week worldwide.

1988
01:25:37,153 --> 01:25:38,288
Hi. Nice to meet you.

1989
01:25:38,388 --> 01:25:39,489
HI, nice to meet you.

1990
01:25:39,589 --> 01:25:43,126
To me, Seventeen means
lifelong youth.

1991
01:25:44,861 --> 01:25:46,430
[Abby] <i>Seventeen is
so interesting</i>

1992
01:25:46,530 --> 01:25:48,798
<i>because they have 13 boys</i>

1993
01:25:48,898 --> 01:25:51,835
and that just seems like
a recipe for disaster,

1994
01:25:51,935 --> 01:25:55,038
but they really have
just made it work.

1995
01:25:55,639 --> 01:25:58,575
<i>Within the group,
they have three sub-units.</i>

1996
01:25:59,008 --> 01:26:01,911
<i>The hip-hop team,
the performance team,</i>

1997
01:26:02,011 --> 01:26:03,280
<i>and the vocal team.</i>

1998
01:26:03,780 --> 01:26:07,251
You can tell
their chemistry is real.

1999
01:26:07,751 --> 01:26:10,287
[Vernon] <i>We just always try
to have a good time,</i>

2000
01:26:10,387 --> 01:26:11,755
make it fun for each other.

2001
01:26:11,855 --> 01:26:15,825
That's one of the perks
of having all these members.

2002
01:26:17,193 --> 01:26:20,330
[Amber] <i>Seventeen is just all
these different personalities,</i>

2003
01:26:20,430 --> 01:26:23,267
so the fans have
ample opportunity,

2004
01:26:23,367 --> 01:26:26,002
a million options,
so many questions.

2005
01:26:29,673 --> 01:26:31,107
[Vernon] <i>Even before I was able</i>

2006
01:26:31,207 --> 01:26:34,311
<i>to dream about becoming
a K-pop group singer,</i>

2007
01:26:35,111 --> 01:26:37,547
I was on my way back home
after school

2008
01:26:37,981 --> 01:26:41,217
and this casting director
approached me.

2009
01:26:41,718 --> 01:26:43,653
<i>And she asked me if I wanted
to become a trainee</i>

2010
01:26:43,753 --> 01:26:45,422
<i>as a K-pop group singer.</i>

2011
01:26:45,522 --> 01:26:49,092
And it just seemed like
a fun opportunity.

2012
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:51,628
[Abby] <i>A lot
of Seventeen's members</i>

2013
01:26:51,728 --> 01:26:53,196
<i>were street-cast.</i>

2014
01:26:53,297 --> 01:26:54,531
<i>And then, for a long time,</i>

2015
01:26:54,631 --> 01:26:56,266
<i>they become trainees,</i>

2016
01:26:56,366 --> 01:26:57,967
and learn how to dance and sing,

2017
01:26:58,067 --> 01:26:59,436
and work as a group.

2018
01:27:00,470 --> 01:27:05,008
<i>Many K-pop groups live together
for a long time in dorms.</i>

2019
01:27:05,975 --> 01:27:08,445
I think every group
should have to live together

2020
01:27:08,545 --> 01:27:09,879
at the very beginning

2021
01:27:09,979 --> 01:27:12,749
'cause you know immediately
if you like them or not.

2022
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,503
Hoshi's video for <i>Spider</i>
is the perfect example

2023
01:27:33,603 --> 01:27:36,005
of the strength
of the performance unit.

2024
01:27:43,079 --> 01:27:45,449
Seventeen released
a collaboration

2025
01:27:45,549 --> 01:27:47,216
with New Kids on the Block

2026
01:27:47,317 --> 01:27:48,785
<i>called</i> Dirty Dancing.

2027
01:27:48,885 --> 01:27:52,121
<i>I think this is their way
of honoring them.</i>

2028
01:27:59,729 --> 01:28:03,433
<i>♪ She's dirty-dirty dancin'
dirty dancin' on me ♪</i>

2029
01:28:04,133 --> 01:28:05,869
[Jeff] <i>That song
really resonated with people</i>

2030
01:28:05,969 --> 01:28:08,705
because, again, it's
a great boy band song,

2031
01:28:08,805 --> 01:28:11,107
but also I think people saw

2032
01:28:11,207 --> 01:28:13,042
the mutual respect
between each other.

2033
01:28:13,142 --> 01:28:14,811
[Donnie] <i>When I think back
to my childhood,</i>

2034
01:28:14,911 --> 01:28:17,180
I could never have dreamed
that we would

2035
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,482
influence anybody.

2036
01:28:18,948 --> 01:28:21,451
<i>They've become to the world
what New Kids were</i>

2037
01:28:21,551 --> 01:28:23,086
<i>30-something years ago.</i>

2038
01:28:29,993 --> 01:28:32,261
[Vernon] <i>Visiting all these
places around the world</i>

2039
01:28:32,362 --> 01:28:35,231
<i>to see thousands of people</i>

2040
01:28:35,331 --> 01:28:37,601
<i>that are there just for us,</i>

2041
01:28:38,468 --> 01:28:39,769
it feels very surreal.

2042
01:28:40,537 --> 01:28:44,340
We didn't know what specifically
would lead us to success.

2043
01:28:45,274 --> 01:28:48,845
<i>But having all these members
as a group together,</i>

2044
01:28:48,945 --> 01:28:51,981
they make the journey enjoyable.

2045
01:28:52,849 --> 01:28:58,755
[fans screaming hysterically]

2046
01:28:59,589 --> 01:29:00,657
[Nick] <i>With 98 Degrees,</i>

2047
01:29:00,757 --> 01:29:02,025
<i>the idea that we could share</i>

2048
01:29:02,125 --> 01:29:04,260
<i>these incredible experiences
together,</i>

2049
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,396
it was really super meaningful.

2050
01:29:06,830 --> 01:29:09,298
<i>But, sometimes, when you're
in a boy band,</i>

2051
01:29:09,666 --> 01:29:11,668
you go through
really, really hard times.

2052
01:29:11,768 --> 01:29:13,002
[fans screaming]

2053
01:29:13,102 --> 01:29:15,104
<i>But that stuff,
it makes you stronger.</i>

2054
01:29:15,872 --> 01:29:17,941
<i>And I wouldn't change any of it.</i>

2055
01:29:18,041 --> 01:29:19,476
Whether it was personal stuff

2056
01:29:19,576 --> 01:29:20,644
that one of us
was going through,

2057
01:29:20,744 --> 01:29:22,245
whether it was
professional stuff,

2058
01:29:22,345 --> 01:29:24,648
we did it together.

2059
01:29:25,281 --> 01:29:28,017
[Donnie] <i>Your bandmates,
you'll struggle with them,</i>

2060
01:29:28,117 --> 01:29:29,819
<i>sometimes you'll even fight
over something</i>

2061
01:29:29,919 --> 01:29:32,255
as dumb as who gets
the blue shirt

2062
01:29:32,355 --> 01:29:33,690
and who gets the orange one.

2063
01:29:34,123 --> 01:29:36,460
<i>But when you look
into each other's eyes,</i>

2064
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,562
<i>you'll see something
that no one else</i>

2065
01:29:38,662 --> 01:29:39,796
<i>or very few people in the world</i>

2066
01:29:39,896 --> 01:29:40,997
<i>will ever understand.</i>

2067
01:29:41,097 --> 01:29:42,298
We all share it.

2068
01:29:42,398 --> 01:29:44,701
It's a very unique experience
and it's pretty cool.

2069
01:29:46,970 --> 01:29:49,739
We talk like family.

2070
01:29:49,839 --> 01:29:51,107
We fight like family.

2071
01:29:51,207 --> 01:29:54,110
We laugh like family.
We cry like family.

2072
01:29:55,679 --> 01:29:57,046
I think, of everyone
in the group

2073
01:29:57,146 --> 01:29:58,715
that changed the most,
it would be me.

2074
01:29:59,315 --> 01:30:02,118
<i>I was the one that was hiding
a huge part of myself.</i>

2075
01:30:02,852 --> 01:30:05,288
<i>I wasn't the person
that I was supposed to be.</i>

2076
01:30:05,589 --> 01:30:06,690
<i>I became the shy one</i>

2077
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:08,625
because I didn't want people

2078
01:30:08,725 --> 01:30:10,126
to figure out the secret I had.

2079
01:30:11,327 --> 01:30:14,330
<i>I didn't want people to see
that I had a personality,</i>

2080
01:30:14,430 --> 01:30:15,999
<i>that, "Ooh, he might be gay."</i>

2081
01:30:16,099 --> 01:30:17,667
Do you like girls
who wear makeup?

2082
01:30:17,767 --> 01:30:19,869
Or do you have a limit
on how much makeup

2083
01:30:19,969 --> 01:30:21,404
you like a girl to wear?

2084
01:30:21,505 --> 01:30:24,207
Well, I don't like
too much makeup.

2085
01:30:24,541 --> 01:30:27,010
But I like girls

2086
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:29,045
that like to keep themselves up.

2087
01:30:29,713 --> 01:30:31,948
I look back at my interviews
20 years ago

2088
01:30:32,048 --> 01:30:33,449
and I'm like, "Who is that kid?

2089
01:30:33,550 --> 01:30:35,451
That is not me."

2090
01:30:36,085 --> 01:30:38,321
<i>It's just I didn't know
who I was.</i>

2091
01:30:39,856 --> 01:30:41,525
<i>But I remember, towards the en,</i>

2092
01:30:41,625 --> 01:30:43,527
<i>that I could speak my voice.</i>

2093
01:30:43,627 --> 01:30:45,729
I became more confident.

2094
01:30:46,563 --> 01:30:48,498
<i>And everyone in the group</i>

2095
01:30:48,598 --> 01:30:50,734
<i>always supported whatever I did.</i>

2096
01:30:50,834 --> 01:30:53,770
Which is amazing,
looking at it now.

2097
01:30:56,072 --> 01:30:57,674
[Yve] <i>Do I believe
that boy bands</i>

2098
01:30:57,774 --> 01:30:59,976
<i>have created
a beautiful safe space</i>

2099
01:31:00,076 --> 01:31:02,679
for young people
and, specifically, young women

2100
01:31:02,779 --> 01:31:04,748
to find community
and love something together?

2101
01:31:04,848 --> 01:31:06,349
Yes, I do.

2102
01:31:06,816 --> 01:31:08,084
[Woman] <i>When I was in college,</i>

2103
01:31:08,184 --> 01:31:10,720
I was going through
a really rough time.

2104
01:31:10,820 --> 01:31:12,421
I didn't have a great experience

2105
01:31:12,522 --> 01:31:15,291
and, at the end of the day,
there is five boys

2106
01:31:15,391 --> 01:31:17,594
that I could open my laptop
and make me laugh.

2107
01:31:18,327 --> 01:31:21,531
<i>One Direction
was my happy place.</i>

2108
01:31:21,998 --> 01:31:23,933
<i>It kept me going.</i>

2109
01:31:24,433 --> 01:31:25,969
At 17, I was in a place

2110
01:31:26,069 --> 01:31:28,772
where, as a fangirl, sometimes
you're ashamed

2111
01:31:28,872 --> 01:31:30,874
of what you liked
'cause the world tells you

2112
01:31:30,974 --> 01:31:33,843
<i>the things that teenage girls
like are stupid.</i>

2113
01:31:34,611 --> 01:31:37,446
[Yve] <i>Why is it that the image
of a young girl</i>

2114
01:31:37,547 --> 01:31:39,182
<i>at a Justin Bieber concert</i>

2115
01:31:39,282 --> 01:31:42,151
<i>screaming her lungs out
with ecstasy</i>

2116
01:31:42,251 --> 01:31:46,122
<i>might be described as crazy,
psycho, over-the-top,</i>

2117
01:31:46,222 --> 01:31:47,657
<i>a bit much,</i>

2118
01:31:47,757 --> 01:31:49,425
<i>but the same image,</i>

2119
01:31:49,525 --> 01:31:52,128
<i>but make it a young boy
at a sporting match,</i>

2120
01:31:52,228 --> 01:31:54,330
<i>might be described
as passionate,</i>

2121
01:31:54,430 --> 01:31:55,765
<i>loyal, devoted?</i>

2122
01:31:55,865 --> 01:31:57,934
We'd say,
"That's the love of the game."

2123
01:32:00,737 --> 01:32:02,138
Slow down. Take a breath, ready?

2124
01:32:02,238 --> 01:32:04,841
What if we didn't undermine
young women and their interests?

2125
01:32:04,941 --> 01:32:06,409
What if we didn't
allow ourselves

2126
01:32:06,509 --> 01:32:07,711
to use this language

2127
01:32:07,811 --> 01:32:10,379
that minimizes and belittles

2128
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,215
them expressing enthusiasm

2129
01:32:12,315 --> 01:32:14,584
<i>and love for the things
they care about?</i>

2130
01:32:15,384 --> 01:32:18,722
[Donnie] <i>The fans of boy bands
all get the last laugh.</i>

2131
01:32:19,255 --> 01:32:21,424
<i>They're mothers, teachers,</i>

2132
01:32:21,524 --> 01:32:22,692
<i>doctors, lawyers,</i>

2133
01:32:22,792 --> 01:32:23,993
politicians,

2134
01:32:24,093 --> 01:32:25,895
they're in positions of power

2135
01:32:25,995 --> 01:32:27,330
all over the country.

2136
01:32:27,430 --> 01:32:29,899
Our fans have grown up
to be the new gatekeepers.

2137
01:32:31,134 --> 01:32:33,136
[Nick] <i>The beauty
of having young fans</i>

2138
01:32:33,236 --> 01:32:35,038
<i>who grew up on your music</i>

2139
01:32:35,138 --> 01:32:36,505
is that they grow up with you.

2140
01:32:36,606 --> 01:32:39,008
We have been friends since
we were in the third grade

2141
01:32:39,108 --> 01:32:42,511
and we used to wear T-shirts

2142
01:32:42,612 --> 01:32:45,782
and go to the concerts together.

2143
01:32:45,882 --> 01:32:48,384
And now, 15 years later,
here we are

2144
01:32:48,484 --> 01:32:49,986
wearing T-shirts,
going to the concerts together.

2145
01:32:50,086 --> 01:32:52,055
It's a very sentimental
moment for us.

2146
01:32:52,155 --> 01:32:55,825
Boy bands can command
this intense loyalty

2147
01:32:55,925 --> 01:32:58,194
that can really withstand
the test of time.

2148
01:32:58,695 --> 01:33:01,330
[Donnie] <i>For the boy bands
who are willing to stick it out,</i>

2149
01:33:01,430 --> 01:33:03,633
<i>you will last more
than two or three years.</i>

2150
01:33:03,933 --> 01:33:05,669
And we are living proof

2151
01:33:05,769 --> 01:33:07,971
as are our idols, New Edition.

2152
01:33:08,404 --> 01:33:11,240
[Woman] <i>The girls who liked you
when you were 12,</i>

2153
01:33:12,275 --> 01:33:14,644
<i>those are the people that are
buying tickets for the cruises</i>

2154
01:33:14,944 --> 01:33:16,913
<i>and the mixtape tour.</i>

2155
01:33:20,684 --> 01:33:24,821
[Donnie] <i>The best way to
describe our second incarnation</i>

2156
01:33:24,921 --> 01:33:28,925
is like when an athlete
becomes a veteran.

2157
01:33:29,458 --> 01:33:31,995
[AJ] <i>I'll never forget
when Kevin came back,</i>

2158
01:33:32,095 --> 01:33:33,229
<i>we were at Staples Center.</i>

2159
01:33:33,329 --> 01:33:36,499
<i>And he came up on</i>
I Want It That Way.

2160
01:33:38,467 --> 01:33:41,971
And I've never heard screams
so piercing.

2161
01:33:42,071 --> 01:33:43,639
I had to pull my inner ears out.

2162
01:33:43,740 --> 01:33:46,676
[hysterical screaming]

2163
01:33:46,776 --> 01:33:48,044
<i>And he just stood there.</i>

2164
01:33:48,144 --> 01:33:49,645
<i>And I'm like, "Yeah, you take it
in, buddy.</i>

2165
01:33:49,746 --> 01:33:51,114
Take that shit in."

2166
01:33:52,215 --> 01:33:54,918
<i>And then we went back
into the studio.</i>

2167
01:33:55,584 --> 01:33:56,920
It's generational.

2168
01:33:57,020 --> 01:33:58,688
You see our last tour,
you're seeing

2169
01:33:58,788 --> 01:34:00,690
<i>5-year-olds to 85-year-olds.</i>

2170
01:34:01,657 --> 01:34:04,460
<i>Fans are an extension of you</i>

2171
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,563
<i>because you are making
a personal connection</i>

2172
01:34:07,663 --> 01:34:08,865
<i>through music.</i>

2173
01:34:08,965 --> 01:34:12,035
<i>We lock eyes
and that's a moment.</i>

2174
01:34:14,337 --> 01:34:17,073
[Host] Make some noise
for NSYNC.

2175
01:34:17,173 --> 01:34:19,008
[screaming hysterically]

2176
01:34:19,108 --> 01:34:20,910
[Taylor]
<i>You guys are pop personified.</i>

2177
01:34:21,010 --> 01:34:23,312
I had your dolls.

2178
01:34:23,412 --> 01:34:24,714
[Chris] <i>When the five of us
are together,</i>

2179
01:34:24,814 --> 01:34:28,151
<i>it's almost like the world
disappears for a second</i>

2180
01:34:28,251 --> 01:34:30,453
<i>and we get to go back
to that time.</i>

2181
01:34:32,088 --> 01:34:33,356
[Johnny] <i>And after 11 years,</i>

2182
01:34:33,456 --> 01:34:36,092
<i>it was so great
to see them back on stage</i>

2183
01:34:36,192 --> 01:34:37,660
<i>performing together.</i>

2184
01:34:38,394 --> 01:34:42,498
[Justin] <i>Ladies and gentlemen,
we are NSYNC.</i>

2185
01:34:42,598 --> 01:34:44,033
[screaming loudly]

2186
01:34:44,133 --> 01:34:45,334
[Nick] <i>It's a beautiful thing
about music.</i>

2187
01:34:45,434 --> 01:34:47,403
<i>It takes you back
to where you were.</i>

2188
01:34:47,503 --> 01:34:49,906
<i>It takes you back
to the things you were feeling.</i>

2189
01:34:50,339 --> 01:34:51,841
<i>There's a desire to feel good.</i>

2190
01:34:51,941 --> 01:34:53,910
<i>There's a desire
to revisit those moments</i>

2191
01:34:54,010 --> 01:34:55,544
that were happy
and were care-free.

2192
01:34:56,612 --> 01:34:58,447
[Michael] <i>It's a childhood
memory</i>

2193
01:34:58,547 --> 01:35:00,683
<i>and it's something
to be proud of.</i>

2194
01:35:01,050 --> 01:35:03,820
<i>Boy band music is so powerful</i>

2195
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,589
because it keeps evolving.

2196
01:35:09,225 --> 01:35:12,495
[Fan] <i>I love you, I love you,
I love you, I love you</i>

2197
01:35:12,595 --> 01:35:14,230
<i>always and forever.</i>

2198
01:35:14,330 --> 01:35:20,403
- [music]
- [screaming loudly]

2199
01:35:21,805 --> 01:35:27,743
[music]

2200
01:35:48,597 --> 01:35:50,800
[music]