1 00:00:05,105 --> 00:00:07,440 [metal grating] 2 00:00:11,044 --> 00:00:13,780 The case was a true whodunit mystery. 3 00:00:16,015 --> 00:00:17,884 [Jody] We had remains but no identification. 4 00:00:18,985 --> 00:00:21,855 It was just very cold, very calculated. 5 00:00:23,957 --> 00:00:25,492 Whoever did this, they had a plan. 6 00:00:25,592 --> 00:00:26,593 They were methodical. 7 00:00:28,895 --> 00:00:30,930 Who would go through these lengths to get rid of a body? 8 00:00:32,131 --> 00:00:34,834 Investigators had an impossible case to solve. 9 00:00:37,303 --> 00:00:40,073 This is the Super Bowl, the crime of all crimes. 10 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:45,145 We have to identify this victim in order to catch the killer. 11 00:00:47,414 --> 00:00:49,215 I was wondering, did we meet our match? 12 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:53,486 [suspenseful music playing] 13 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:13,106 [Jody] On Friday, July 12, 2002, the Pennsylvania State 14 00:01:13,206 --> 00:01:17,510 Police received a call about a potential body 15 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:20,113 that was found in Jackson Township, Monroe County. 16 00:01:20,213 --> 00:01:21,614 [distant sirens wailing] 17 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:23,850 Our team responded to process the scene. 18 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:29,622 It was a pull-off site along a very rural road. 19 00:01:35,328 --> 00:01:39,598 The body was located in two 55-gallon burn barrels. 20 00:01:42,002 --> 00:01:45,505 Because of the level of decomposition, and the burning, 21 00:01:46,673 --> 00:01:48,441 the smell was absolutely putrid. 22 00:01:48,541 --> 00:01:49,609 So our team had to get 23 00:01:51,211 --> 00:01:53,213 respirators from a local fire company. 24 00:01:56,216 --> 00:01:58,952 It was obvious that there was no way this was an accident. 25 00:01:59,051 --> 00:02:00,286 It was brutal homicide. 26 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:06,760 [Shawn] I've worked hundreds of homicides, but this is one of 27 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:10,030 the most gruesome cases I ever experienced. 28 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:13,767 I knew that this was gonna be a difficult case to solve. 29 00:02:15,368 --> 00:02:16,803 [indistinct radio chatter] 30 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:21,875 investigators then spoke with the discoverer of the body, 31 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:23,309 George Newhart. 32 00:02:25,378 --> 00:02:29,582 George Newhart said he was operating a septic business 33 00:02:29,683 --> 00:02:32,752 and so when his truck was full up, he would pull into 34 00:02:32,852 --> 00:02:36,389 the location and pump it out into this tanker. 35 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:42,062 When he got there, he got out of the truck and now, this is a man 36 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:45,465 who deals in human waste, and he was overwhelmed by 37 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:47,033 the -- the stench. 38 00:02:49,402 --> 00:02:53,973 [Shawn] And he found two barrels that were somewhat smoldering and as 39 00:02:54,074 --> 00:02:56,910 he started sifting through some things a little bit, he realized 40 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,378 this was human remains. 41 00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:05,885 [indistinct radio chatter] 42 00:03:08,922 --> 00:03:11,024 [Will] The first person that investigators started looking 43 00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:12,292 at was George. 44 00:03:12,392 --> 00:03:15,328 They checked his whereabouts, they checked his work logs, 45 00:03:15,428 --> 00:03:16,796 it actually checked out. 46 00:03:16,896 --> 00:03:19,866 So George was not a person of interest. 47 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:24,204 So investigators got to put the body together, they've got 48 00:03:24,304 --> 00:03:25,872 to identify this person. 49 00:03:25,972 --> 00:03:28,541 [Shawn] It was very late when investigators initially got 50 00:03:28,641 --> 00:03:32,312 there, so the investigation really got going on 51 00:03:32,412 --> 00:03:34,948 the following day, on July 13th. 52 00:03:45,191 --> 00:03:47,660 [sustained mysterious tones] 53 00:03:53,633 --> 00:03:55,635 [Jody] In one barrel was the victim's torso, 54 00:03:57,437 --> 00:03:58,872 in the other barrel was the victim's 55 00:03:58,972 --> 00:04:00,106 head and extremities. 56 00:04:01,808 --> 00:04:05,445 Also in the barrel, were maggots, some of which were 57 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,580 burnt, which tells us that 58 00:04:07,681 --> 00:04:09,849 the victim has been dead for -- for some time. 59 00:04:11,484 --> 00:04:13,119 [birds singing] 60 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:19,526 [Will] So investigators know that at this point from that call 61 00:04:19,625 --> 00:04:22,996 and the time that George, the person who found the body, 62 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:26,700 was at the properties there's a 10-hour window from when this 63 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,934 body could have been dumped. 64 00:04:32,605 --> 00:04:34,908 [heavy breathing through mask] 65 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:40,347 [Jody] Our team processed the scene to remove 66 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:43,516 the victim from both barrels. 67 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:46,853 And they sort of had to figure out, OK, what body parts do 68 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:48,955 we have? What don't we have here? 69 00:04:49,055 --> 00:04:52,759 And they put down a sheet on the ground and started 70 00:04:52,859 --> 00:04:55,095 putting this human back together again. 71 00:04:57,731 --> 00:04:59,699 At that point, we couldn't determine if it was 72 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:00,900 a man or a woman. 73 00:05:02,936 --> 00:05:06,106 Due to the fact that they were dismembered, 74 00:05:06,206 --> 00:05:07,674 decomposing, and burnt. 75 00:05:07,774 --> 00:05:10,243 And given the condition of the victim, 76 00:05:11,378 --> 00:05:13,013 DNA testing was gonna take a while. 77 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:18,918 It was definitely clear to me that this person or persons 78 00:05:19,019 --> 00:05:22,522 who killed this individual went through great lengths to try 79 00:05:22,622 --> 00:05:25,925 and dispose of the body and make sure that 80 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:27,427 he or she were never identified. 81 00:05:38,071 --> 00:05:40,507 [birds singing] [distant cow mooing] 82 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:46,713 [Jody] When removing the victim from the burn barrel, 83 00:05:46,813 --> 00:05:50,050 we discovered a piece of blue plastic or vinyl, 84 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:51,751 and we recovered duct tape. 85 00:05:51,851 --> 00:05:55,989 We recovered a rope, remnants of clothing, 86 00:05:56,089 --> 00:05:59,159 cigarette butts, all these things that we thought may 87 00:05:59,259 --> 00:06:00,794 or may not be related to our crime. 88 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:06,099 But how big is your scene? 89 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:07,834 Was the victim killed and dismembered here 90 00:06:07,934 --> 00:06:09,769 or somewhere else? You don't know. 91 00:06:15,842 --> 00:06:19,813 You're talking about a remote area of the Poconos. 92 00:06:19,913 --> 00:06:21,915 So it already set the case 93 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:26,219 into a difficult status because they are looking at so much 94 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:27,287 ground to cover. 95 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:32,192 We had cadaver dogs go through the woods looking for evidence. 96 00:06:32,292 --> 00:06:37,931 But there's no indication or evidence that this crime had 97 00:06:38,031 --> 00:06:39,165 occurred here. 98 00:06:39,265 --> 00:06:41,568 This person was killed and dismembered somewhere else. 99 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:53,380 [Shawn] Fortunately, the property did have a cable going across it, 100 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,716 a 40-foot cable, and it was low. 101 00:06:56,816 --> 00:07:00,153 There was a lock on it, and it would have taken two 102 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,857 people to get their vehicle underneath that cable, one to 103 00:07:03,957 --> 00:07:06,559 hold it up, one to drive the vehicle up to the barrels. 104 00:07:07,861 --> 00:07:09,829 So we believe there's two offenders, 105 00:07:10,797 --> 00:07:16,269 and we know that a vehicle had to enter this property because 106 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:18,772 there was no evidence of dragging from the road. 107 00:07:20,807 --> 00:07:25,078 Then the speculation part started, you know. 108 00:07:25,178 --> 00:07:27,147 Who could have done anything like this? 109 00:07:29,315 --> 00:07:31,885 It's scary to think of the type of person who would go to these 110 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:33,687 lengths to try and get away with this murder. 111 00:07:45,432 --> 00:07:49,736 [Shawn] So we are trying to think like the offender. 112 00:07:49,836 --> 00:07:53,440 Was it someone that got off the interstate and decided to 113 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:57,243 dispose of this individual in these burn barrels? 114 00:07:57,344 --> 00:08:00,280 Or that someone had more of an intimate knowledge of this 115 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,249 property, being that they knew that the burned barrels 116 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:04,484 would be there? 117 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:11,024 [birds singing] [low, suspenseful music playing] 118 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:13,827 When the investigation started, there's a lot of people working 119 00:08:13,927 --> 00:08:15,762 on it, multiple agencies. 120 00:08:15,862 --> 00:08:17,197 You have this two-pronged approach. 121 00:08:17,297 --> 00:08:20,100 On one hand, you've got the investigators looking on 122 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,802 the ground, looking for witnesses, looking for anyone 123 00:08:22,902 --> 00:08:25,839 with any information about this crime. 124 00:08:25,939 --> 00:08:29,275 Then on the other hand, you've got the forensic team 125 00:08:29,376 --> 00:08:32,679 in the lab trying to work on identifying the body. 126 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:41,621 [Jody] As we begin this process, we know 127 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:43,722 DNA is gonna take a while. 128 00:08:43,823 --> 00:08:45,892 But right out of the gate at the autopsy, 129 00:08:45,992 --> 00:08:47,927 we're looking at the victim's head and extremities. 130 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:50,196 And there's one thing we know -- the victim is male. 131 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:56,870 [Shawn] He was stabbed multiple times. His right orbital was crushed. 132 00:08:56,970 --> 00:09:00,340 His nose was fractured. His tibia was broken. 133 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,510 Not only was this person dismembered, they went through 134 00:09:03,610 --> 00:09:04,611 a lot of trauma. 135 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:09,082 [Jody] Seeing what happened to this individual makes me sick. 136 00:09:09,182 --> 00:09:12,118 He's cut up into pieces, torched, and thrown out 137 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:13,253 like garbage. 138 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:15,755 And we consider that a challenge to find the truth 139 00:09:15,855 --> 00:09:18,224 and bring those responsible to justice. 140 00:09:21,961 --> 00:09:24,964 [Shawn] We know that the body was wrapped in a blue plastic. 141 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:28,234 And our forensic units looked at a logo 142 00:09:28,335 --> 00:09:29,936 and did some research. 143 00:09:30,036 --> 00:09:35,075 [Jody] We discovered the logo on it, and it's a popular brand. 144 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:38,078 They make air mattresses. 145 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:41,481 We don't know where or when the mattress was purchased. 146 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:44,651 We don't know how it's related to this crime, 147 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:45,952 or where it fits in. 148 00:09:46,052 --> 00:09:47,520 It's just another piece to the puzzle. 149 00:09:48,788 --> 00:09:51,391 We know that there's a killer out there. 150 00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:54,094 So it's very crucial to identify that victim. 151 00:10:02,502 --> 00:10:04,404 [Jody] The quickest way of identifying the victim would be 152 00:10:04,504 --> 00:10:05,505 through fingerprints. 153 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,109 But the hands were severely dehydrated. 154 00:10:09,209 --> 00:10:14,147 They were leathery, very hard. They're shriveled up. 155 00:10:14,247 --> 00:10:16,883 Being exposed to the extreme heat, they're very small, 156 00:10:16,983 --> 00:10:19,386 almost like that of a child's. 157 00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:22,622 That makes dealing with that piece of human 158 00:10:22,722 --> 00:10:24,090 fingertip difficult. 159 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:28,495 The left thumb was the best fingerprint that we had 160 00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:33,333 to work with, but it was small, so it was a slow process. 161 00:10:37,704 --> 00:10:40,940 [Will] The killers had a plan to cover all their tracks. 162 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:47,247 You don't put pieces of a body into two separate barrels 163 00:10:47,347 --> 00:10:52,018 and set them on fire unless you don't want to be found. 164 00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:54,587 [fire crackling] 165 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:58,058 [Shawn] It was so disgusting -- you don't get 166 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:00,026 that smell out of your head. 167 00:11:01,094 --> 00:11:03,229 Who would go through these lengths to get rid of a body? 168 00:11:06,433 --> 00:11:08,668 We knew that we were dealing with something 169 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:10,170 very evil at this point. 170 00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:17,310 [crickets chirping] 171 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:21,247 [fire crackling] 172 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:25,018 [Shawn] We have an unidentified individual that was 173 00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:28,188 murdered horribly, 174 00:11:28,288 --> 00:11:32,759 dismembered and burned in a couple burn barrels. 175 00:11:32,859 --> 00:11:36,830 We want to identify this person at all costs, because ultimately 176 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:39,199 we want a family to know what happened to 177 00:11:39,299 --> 00:11:41,067 their loved one, number one. 178 00:11:41,167 --> 00:11:43,570 Number two, we have to identify that person in order to 179 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:44,637 catch the killer. 180 00:11:59,686 --> 00:12:02,122 [Shawn] So weeks, they turn into months, 181 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:06,860 and we were thinking outside the box and doing everything 182 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,130 we could to identify the victim. 183 00:12:11,865 --> 00:12:15,802 It's very frustrating with an unidentified person when 184 00:12:15,902 --> 00:12:18,505 you can't make that connection to who they are. 185 00:12:18,605 --> 00:12:21,841 It feels like the investigation stalls. 186 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:30,850 So my partner reached out to a forensic artist, 187 00:12:30,950 --> 00:12:35,622 and he recreates with clay and his artistry and gives us 188 00:12:35,722 --> 00:12:37,323 a face of this victim. 189 00:12:41,895 --> 00:12:44,464 We were hoping to get some type of face out there. 190 00:12:44,564 --> 00:12:47,967 We're working with the media to get this information out there 191 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:50,070 because we have to identify this victim. 192 00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:52,706 We were doing everything we could. 193 00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:57,644 However, the victim's identity still wasn't known. 194 00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:02,816 There's a family connected to this person. 195 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:06,486 The investigators were frustrated. 196 00:13:06,586 --> 00:13:10,190 Can you imagine trying to solve a crime 197 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:13,893 where the evidence is 198 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:15,729 basically burned in pieces? 199 00:13:17,731 --> 00:13:20,600 [Shawn] So at this point, we're doing everything we can. 200 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:24,871 We're looking at new avenues, anything we can do to think 201 00:13:24,971 --> 00:13:29,476 outside the box and move forward with this investigation. 202 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:31,644 You have the human emotion 203 00:13:31,745 --> 00:13:33,780 and the professional emotion, 204 00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:36,282 but we were never gonna give up. 205 00:13:36,383 --> 00:13:39,152 We weren't going to stop fighting for that victim. 206 00:13:39,252 --> 00:13:42,088 And so we continued and continued and continued 207 00:13:42,188 --> 00:13:43,189 to investigate. 208 00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:54,701 We believe there's two offenders based on the cable. 209 00:13:55,969 --> 00:13:58,104 Whoever did this, they had a plan. 210 00:13:58,204 --> 00:13:59,205 They were methodical. 211 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:05,879 So you have to think, did the person or people 212 00:14:05,979 --> 00:14:09,949 responsible for this really get away with murder? 213 00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:25,165 Then we get about a year outside of the investigation, 214 00:14:25,265 --> 00:14:30,236 and there was a very well-known case back in the summer of 2003 215 00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,472 that came to light with an individual named 216 00:14:32,572 --> 00:14:33,907 Hugo Selenski. 217 00:14:34,007 --> 00:14:36,242 [news broadcast] Hugo Selenski is accused of killing two people, 218 00:14:36,343 --> 00:14:38,611 burning and then burying their remains at 219 00:14:38,712 --> 00:14:40,747 a Kingston Township home where he lived. 220 00:14:40,847 --> 00:14:43,216 Three other sets of remains were found here. 221 00:14:43,316 --> 00:14:46,386 He's a suspect in those deaths too. 222 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:51,157 These murders were committed in May of 2002, just two months 223 00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:54,227 before they found the body in Jackson Township. 224 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:58,898 Could Hugo Selenski be connected to this murder? 225 00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:01,468 [Jody] There were a lot of similarities between 226 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,503 Hugo Selenski's crimes and this crime. 227 00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:05,405 He used duct tape to bind his victims. 228 00:15:05,505 --> 00:15:07,374 He brutally bludgeoned his victims. 229 00:15:07,474 --> 00:15:10,443 He burned his victims to ash, literally. 230 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:17,817 [Shawn] This happened only miles from where our scene was 231 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,553 of the burn barrels and the dismembered body. 232 00:15:20,653 --> 00:15:23,857 So it really piqued our interest, and we wanted to 233 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:26,760 find out, is there a nexus between the two cases? 234 00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:31,431 Does our victim have any connection to Hugo Selenski? 235 00:15:32,532 --> 00:15:36,069 We knew we had to keep pressing on, and it really all came back 236 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:37,971 to identifying the victim. 237 00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:47,847 I had this fingerprint from our victim's left thumb, 238 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:50,650 but it was dehydrated, shriveled up. 239 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:53,586 So I started thinking, what can we do? 240 00:15:53,687 --> 00:15:55,121 We're looking at this print, looks like 241 00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:56,189 a child's fingerprint. 242 00:15:56,289 --> 00:15:58,591 what if we enlarge it incrementally and run it 243 00:15:58,692 --> 00:16:00,827 through the system as many times as it takes, 244 00:16:00,927 --> 00:16:04,130 little by little, enlarge, submit, enlarge, submit. 245 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:07,934 And, you know, fortunately, it paid off. 246 00:16:11,638 --> 00:16:15,542 [Shawn] Lo and behold, in November of 2003, we get a hit on 247 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:20,046 a fingerprint, and our victim is now given a name 248 00:16:21,448 --> 00:16:22,649 of Robert Roudebush. 249 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:27,754 [Jody] It was such a great victory and great relief. 250 00:16:27,854 --> 00:16:31,324 So as excited as I am, as we all are, 251 00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:34,561 like our work's just beginning. Who is Robert Roudebush? 252 00:16:34,661 --> 00:16:35,895 Who would want to kill him? 253 00:16:48,108 --> 00:16:51,411 So we reached out to the family. 254 00:16:51,511 --> 00:16:55,015 We want to learn as much about Bob as possible. 255 00:16:55,115 --> 00:16:57,917 And once we talked to them, we started getting a better 256 00:16:58,018 --> 00:17:00,286 picture of who Bob is. 257 00:17:10,296 --> 00:17:11,865 Bob was my stepbrother. 258 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:16,536 His mother and my father were married in 1981. 259 00:17:17,837 --> 00:17:23,042 When I first met Bob and got to know him, 260 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:31,051 he was very fun-loving, he was kind, 261 00:17:31,151 --> 00:17:35,922 and seemed like someone who just loved life and loved 262 00:17:36,022 --> 00:17:40,360 people, and was just trying to find his own way. 263 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:47,200 I had moved to Reno and was starting work at the new hotel. 264 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:52,572 His mother was also starting to work in the same area. 265 00:17:52,672 --> 00:17:57,077 Bob was a security guard at one of the casinos. 266 00:17:59,012 --> 00:18:02,982 So many times we would meet up with him at the casino. 267 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:06,052 The three of us would just have a really good time together. 268 00:18:06,152 --> 00:18:08,555 Bob was just part of the family. 269 00:18:08,655 --> 00:18:11,691 We all became a family together. 270 00:18:16,062 --> 00:18:18,732 Bob was trying to find his way. 271 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:21,735 He decided 272 00:18:23,036 --> 00:18:24,504 to go into the Marine Corps. 273 00:18:27,173 --> 00:18:31,311 After the Marines, Bob had relocated to the East Coast. 274 00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:34,714 Bob's mother told me, you know, like, that he had moved 275 00:18:34,814 --> 00:18:39,352 to Pennsylvania, that he had a girlfriend. 276 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:42,489 She expressed concern, 277 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:48,161 because he had not contacted her on her birthday. 278 00:18:48,261 --> 00:18:51,297 No matter what, he would never miss her birthday. 279 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:57,404 And then in the winter, she called me and told me that 280 00:18:57,504 --> 00:19:02,642 the Corning police had come to the home to tell her that 281 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:05,879 his remains had been identified as a murder victim 282 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:09,282 in Pennsylvania. I was horrified. 283 00:19:09,382 --> 00:19:14,654 I just couldn't imagine someone doing that to another human 284 00:19:14,754 --> 00:19:20,226 being, and then just dumping like a piece of garbage. 285 00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:22,729 How could they be so cold? 286 00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:26,566 They didn't care about anything except covering up 287 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,601 their own heinous act. 288 00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:35,141 [Shawn] Before we knew Bob's identity, we conducted hundreds 289 00:19:35,241 --> 00:19:36,710 and hundreds of interviews. 290 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:40,246 Now that we have his identity, we're going to conduct hundreds 291 00:19:40,347 --> 00:19:41,381 and hundreds more. 292 00:19:41,481 --> 00:19:42,749 We are going to get to the bottom of this. 293 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:45,719 We have to do everything possible to catch the killer. 294 00:19:47,954 --> 00:19:50,090 It was definitely one of those cases where I thought, 295 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:51,157 maybe we've met our match. 296 00:20:02,769 --> 00:20:04,904 [calm music playing] 297 00:20:18,251 --> 00:20:20,920 So we were working on this investigation for a year 298 00:20:21,021 --> 00:20:23,223 and a half, and finally we have an identification 299 00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:24,324 of the victim, 300 00:20:28,762 --> 00:20:30,130 Bob Roudebush. 301 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:37,070 [Jody] It's like a shot of adrenaline. 302 00:20:37,170 --> 00:20:39,472 But we still didn't have a crime scene as to where 303 00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:40,573 the victim was killed at. 304 00:20:42,876 --> 00:20:46,579 These individuals were smart enough to transport that body 305 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,617 and did a pretty good job of destroying it almost to 306 00:20:50,717 --> 00:20:53,053 the point of not identifying the victim. 307 00:20:53,153 --> 00:20:54,654 Fortunately, that didn't happen. 308 00:21:01,461 --> 00:21:05,198 Through interviews, we identify Bob's girlfriend. 309 00:21:05,298 --> 00:21:06,666 We go to talk to her. 310 00:21:09,536 --> 00:21:13,139 She had not seen him for quite some time. 311 00:21:13,239 --> 00:21:15,742 She never filed a missing person report because 312 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:17,777 their relationship was sort of over. 313 00:21:17,877 --> 00:21:18,945 It was strained. 314 00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:21,414 She kind of moved on with her life at this point. 315 00:21:23,483 --> 00:21:26,252 We asked, "Is there anyone that would want to hurt Bob? 316 00:21:26,353 --> 00:21:29,622 "Was there any connection to an individual named Hugo 317 00:21:29,723 --> 00:21:32,058 Selenski, who killed multiple people?" 318 00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:36,496 [Jody] When you have Hugo Selenski burning bodies on his property, 319 00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:38,765 it's only logical to think that there may be -- 320 00:21:38,865 --> 00:21:41,468 there may be a connection between the two. 321 00:21:41,568 --> 00:21:43,603 [Shawn] She told us she wasn't aware of anybody that 322 00:21:43,703 --> 00:21:44,804 wanted to hurt Bob. 323 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:48,775 And she had no connection to Hugo Selenski. 324 00:21:51,911 --> 00:21:57,117 Periodically, I'd find myself going out and searching just to 325 00:21:57,217 --> 00:22:02,255 see if there had been anything new about what had happened 326 00:22:02,355 --> 00:22:04,624 and any suspects. 327 00:22:04,724 --> 00:22:09,462 There was sadness, there was an emptiness that was there, 328 00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:12,866 and it was just so hard. 329 00:22:21,241 --> 00:22:22,609 [Jody] At this point, you can't give up. 330 00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:24,210 You gotta keep on going. 331 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:27,180 But at the end of the day, it got very frustrating because 332 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,184 every lead, every idea, everything we tried 333 00:22:31,284 --> 00:22:32,285 went nowhere. 334 00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:45,331 Around the time we released the identity to the press, 335 00:22:45,432 --> 00:22:50,036 we received a call from James Britton, an inmate who says 336 00:22:50,136 --> 00:22:54,207 he has information regarding this investigation. 337 00:22:54,307 --> 00:22:59,446 James Britton had recently been extradited from California on 338 00:22:59,546 --> 00:23:02,849 a theft charge, and was sitting in that Columbia County prison. 339 00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:08,555 He said he knew the victim, so this, of course, 340 00:23:08,655 --> 00:23:12,926 gave investigators that hope that this could be 341 00:23:13,026 --> 00:23:14,527 the break in the case. 342 00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:21,968 We went down to the Columbia County Prison, 343 00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:23,636 and I conducted an interview. 344 00:23:24,938 --> 00:23:28,808 He tells us, in 2002, he was living in the city of 345 00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:31,044 Wilkes-Barre with his wife, Stacy. 346 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,982 [Will] James Britton tells investigators that he was 347 00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:38,451 friends with the victim because they were ex-Marines, 348 00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:41,254 but he thinks that the person who may have did this 349 00:23:41,354 --> 00:23:44,457 was his neighbor, Larry Tooley. 350 00:23:48,028 --> 00:23:50,864 Larry Tooley was also a Marine, so the three of them kind of 351 00:23:50,964 --> 00:23:51,965 all got along. 352 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:58,505 James said that Larry was dating a girl 353 00:23:58,605 --> 00:24:01,975 that Bob was starting to have sort of an affair with. 354 00:24:02,075 --> 00:24:08,548 And as time went on, bad blood started between Bob and Larry. 355 00:24:08,648 --> 00:24:12,852 James said that Bob was supposed to come to a barbecue 356 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:16,589 at the Brittons' house on July 4th, but he didn't show up, 357 00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:19,526 and James said he never talked to him again. 358 00:24:22,095 --> 00:24:24,864 Then James said that in July that same month, 359 00:24:24,964 --> 00:24:27,334 that Bob went missing, 360 00:24:27,434 --> 00:24:30,370 James went on to tell us a story how he was assaulted by 361 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:32,539 Larry Tooley. 362 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:35,975 [Will] James says that Larry pistol-whipped him 363 00:24:36,076 --> 00:24:41,348 and threatened to rape his wife all over a stolen MP3 player. 364 00:24:43,083 --> 00:24:46,286 But then James drops a bombshell. 365 00:24:46,386 --> 00:24:50,357 Larry tells him to keep your mouth shut, or I will cave in 366 00:24:50,457 --> 00:24:52,025 your skull like Bob. 367 00:24:56,096 --> 00:24:59,766 James was completely putting it out there that Larry Tooley 368 00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:02,235 had to be the person that killed Bob, 369 00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:05,472 and that he didn't want to end up like him. 370 00:25:06,873 --> 00:25:09,509 This is a shocking development for the investigators. 371 00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:19,986 Now, Larry Tooley was well-known to the investigators 372 00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:23,156 because Larry Tooley, at that point in time, was incarcerated 373 00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:24,758 on murder charges. 374 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,796 In November of 2002, Larry killed a 16-year-old 375 00:25:29,896 --> 00:25:31,564 during a home invasion. 376 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:35,168 Now, Bob was discovered in July of 2002. 377 00:25:35,268 --> 00:25:36,770 This is only four months apart. 378 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:41,007 So there was a lot of interest in Larry Tooley at this point. 379 00:25:46,913 --> 00:25:51,151 James was very believable, and he became 380 00:25:51,251 --> 00:25:53,219 this investigation's new best friend. 381 00:25:57,390 --> 00:25:59,159 [Will] So at this point, investigators have some 382 00:25:59,259 --> 00:26:03,463 information, but this case is still a mystery. 383 00:26:03,563 --> 00:26:08,368 So of course, police have to start corroborating all of this 384 00:26:08,468 --> 00:26:09,803 information from James. 385 00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:15,075 They want to get ahold of James's wife, Stacy. 386 00:26:15,175 --> 00:26:18,044 She is currently in jail in San Diego. 387 00:26:20,747 --> 00:26:22,782 [Shawn] I reached out to Stacy Britton. 388 00:26:22,882 --> 00:26:26,319 She immediately goes into Larry Tooley and talking about being 389 00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:28,955 assaulted, her husband being pistol whipped by him. 390 00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:31,324 Now this is Stacy's words, which were very similar 391 00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:32,425 to her husband's. 392 00:26:32,525 --> 00:26:34,994 She said, I'm gonna cave your skull in and have 393 00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:36,096 a mother [bleep] barbecue. 394 00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:40,100 So she added that in there too, a barbecue, 395 00:26:41,234 --> 00:26:43,203 burning, burn barrels, 396 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:47,240 Bob's remains were lit on fire. 397 00:26:48,608 --> 00:26:51,945 At this point, I'm thinking we are really onto something. 398 00:26:52,045 --> 00:26:54,447 Stacy Britton kind of corroborated that same 399 00:26:54,547 --> 00:26:58,518 information, but she gave a few extra tidbits. 400 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:07,394 [Shawn] So Stacy explained that herself, 401 00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:12,132 Larry Tooley, Bob Roudebush, and her husband, James, 402 00:27:12,232 --> 00:27:14,701 would go back and forth between Wilkes-Barre and Newark, 403 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:15,869 New Jersey for business. 404 00:27:15,969 --> 00:27:18,405 I said, "Well, would you ever stop anywhere?" 405 00:27:18,505 --> 00:27:21,675 And she said, "Are you talking about North Road?" 406 00:27:21,775 --> 00:27:24,377 She said, "Well, my brother lives near there, 407 00:27:25,512 --> 00:27:26,946 real close to there." 408 00:27:27,047 --> 00:27:28,682 And I'm thinking the whole time 409 00:27:28,782 --> 00:27:30,583 I can't believe that she just said "North Road" to me, 410 00:27:31,685 --> 00:27:35,755 that was a big clue, a light bulb went off. 411 00:27:35,855 --> 00:27:38,958 I knew from that point on, Stacy was gonna be 412 00:27:39,059 --> 00:27:41,361 my second best friend in the investigation. 413 00:27:42,996 --> 00:27:45,231 But I had no idea what was ahead on this case. 414 00:27:49,936 --> 00:27:52,105 [ominous music playing] 415 00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:09,923 [Shawn] I knew that once the victim was identified, we would make moves 416 00:28:10,023 --> 00:28:11,157 in the right direction. 417 00:28:12,492 --> 00:28:15,628 At this point, we're thinking Larry Tooley, 418 00:28:15,729 --> 00:28:19,666 and, or Hugo Selenski, have to be tied into the murder of 419 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:21,334 Bob Roudebush. 420 00:28:21,434 --> 00:28:26,239 So we're gonna explore every possible aspect before we make 421 00:28:26,339 --> 00:28:27,340 our next move. 422 00:28:48,461 --> 00:28:50,497 [Michael] Larry Tooley was a known killer. 423 00:28:50,597 --> 00:28:55,235 And he had access to where Bob's remains were discovered. 424 00:28:55,335 --> 00:28:59,506 So all of that -- all of that was the focus initially. 425 00:28:59,606 --> 00:29:05,178 Investigators know from James and Stacy Britton that Bob 426 00:29:05,278 --> 00:29:08,448 possibly was sleeping with Tooley's girlfriend. 427 00:29:09,816 --> 00:29:12,752 So this could be a possible motive. 428 00:29:12,852 --> 00:29:15,622 Investigators right away say, "We need to get 429 00:29:15,722 --> 00:29:16,723 more information." 430 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,563 [Shawn] We knew Larry Tooley was incarcerated. 431 00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:27,834 So we went to the next best person. 432 00:29:27,934 --> 00:29:29,602 We went to Larry Tooley's girlfriend. 433 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:33,907 She says, "Listen, I wasn't having an affair with 434 00:29:34,007 --> 00:29:36,042 Bob Roudebush." 435 00:29:36,142 --> 00:29:38,611 She said, "They're liars, don't believe anything 436 00:29:38,712 --> 00:29:39,713 that they say." 437 00:29:42,248 --> 00:29:44,918 She actually described them as scumbags. 438 00:29:45,018 --> 00:29:48,054 And she said some of the Brittons' information was 439 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:49,522 kind of exaggerated. 440 00:29:51,725 --> 00:29:56,029 In fact, the girlfriend said she only saw Bob 441 00:29:56,129 --> 00:29:58,198 and Larry Tooley together on one occasion. 442 00:30:01,501 --> 00:30:04,471 It was very different than what the Brittons had told me. 443 00:30:10,443 --> 00:30:12,946 So we thought maybe the Brittons were using that 444 00:30:13,046 --> 00:30:15,915 as a deflection, you know, and trying to give, 445 00:30:16,016 --> 00:30:17,350 like, a smokescreen. 446 00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:19,486 They definitely knew more than they were saying. 447 00:30:21,955 --> 00:30:24,791 [Shawn] The Brittons had been very believable. 448 00:30:24,891 --> 00:30:28,061 However, we were starting to think, I wonder if this is 449 00:30:28,161 --> 00:30:33,366 a story they created to push blame off themselves. 450 00:30:33,466 --> 00:30:36,736 We know that there were some inconsistencies in 451 00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:40,907 their stories that were red flags. 452 00:30:41,007 --> 00:30:43,476 Are they omitting things? Are they lying to us? 453 00:30:46,312 --> 00:30:47,580 [Jody] Anyone could have done it. 454 00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:51,918 We have a pool of people that are possible suspects, 455 00:30:52,018 --> 00:30:56,589 but we still need that one clue or piece of evidence 456 00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:58,625 to push us in the right direction. 457 00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:05,065 [Shawn] So we give it some time. 458 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,770 We heard the Brittons were getting out of prison, 459 00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:13,473 and we tried to initiate another interview with both of 460 00:31:13,573 --> 00:31:14,574 them together. 461 00:31:16,876 --> 00:31:19,679 It seemed to me like James did wanna talk. 462 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:26,052 However, Stacy was having no part of that, 463 00:31:26,152 --> 00:31:27,954 and she shut down the interview. 464 00:31:32,292 --> 00:31:33,460 [Jody] We have all these leads. 465 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,595 We're looking at all these puzzle pieces floating out 466 00:31:35,695 --> 00:31:37,430 there, but we don't have a focal point 467 00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:38,832 because we don't have a crime scene. 468 00:31:41,434 --> 00:31:42,535 And it's frustrating. 469 00:31:42,635 --> 00:31:46,339 It's, you know, hard as hell, but Robert has a family, 470 00:31:46,439 --> 00:31:48,475 and we'd like to give them answers and give them 471 00:31:48,575 --> 00:31:49,576 some closure. 472 00:31:56,383 --> 00:31:59,886 The police were working diligently to try 473 00:31:59,986 --> 00:32:01,521 and solve his murder. 474 00:32:02,822 --> 00:32:04,724 It was just so hard. 475 00:32:04,824 --> 00:32:09,829 We needed to know what happened and why it happened. 476 00:32:14,434 --> 00:32:17,671 [Will] Whoever committed this crime planned this in such a way 477 00:32:17,771 --> 00:32:19,706 where they wouldn't get caught. 478 00:32:19,806 --> 00:32:23,877 There's a lot of roads that lead off in different 479 00:32:23,977 --> 00:32:27,213 directions but it doesn't seem like it's leading to the person 480 00:32:27,313 --> 00:32:29,149 or people who committed this murder. 481 00:32:39,793 --> 00:32:43,630 [Jody] Finally, in 2015, we get a call from Stacy Britton. 482 00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:45,865 Apparently, she wants to talk to us. 483 00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:48,034 I couldn't believe that she was reaching out again 484 00:32:48,134 --> 00:32:50,337 after all these years. 485 00:32:50,437 --> 00:32:54,574 She said she and James weren't husband and wife anymore, 486 00:32:54,674 --> 00:32:57,644 but they were living together and things weren't going well. 487 00:32:57,744 --> 00:33:03,049 She says she's in fear of James, and her life's coming 488 00:33:03,149 --> 00:33:06,619 apart, and she needs to talk to somebody about this, 489 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,656 and I could tell she was upset, 490 00:33:09,756 --> 00:33:12,325 but she wanted to tell us a story. 491 00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:16,196 I knew that that was a tipping point, 492 00:33:16,296 --> 00:33:19,966 and I was never prepared for what she was about to tell. 493 00:33:30,377 --> 00:33:34,247 On August 14, 2015, we finally got that break. 494 00:33:35,415 --> 00:33:38,051 During the phone call from Stacy, 495 00:33:38,151 --> 00:33:41,021 she told us that her ex-husband, James Britton, 496 00:33:41,121 --> 00:33:43,089 actually killed Bob Roudebush. 497 00:33:44,324 --> 00:33:46,159 If James Britton killed Bob, 498 00:33:46,259 --> 00:33:48,695 I knew that we had to act on it quick. 499 00:33:48,795 --> 00:33:52,032 The case was ice cold and then it went red hot, 500 00:33:52,132 --> 00:33:53,333 just like that. 501 00:33:53,433 --> 00:33:56,836 And we felt we had enough to charge James. 502 00:33:56,936 --> 00:34:01,341 So we took James into custody and we set up 503 00:34:01,441 --> 00:34:02,575 a recorded interview. 504 00:34:08,815 --> 00:34:11,885 And that's where James went into his version of what 505 00:34:11,985 --> 00:34:14,054 actually happened on July 4, 2002. 506 00:35:08,041 --> 00:35:11,611 At this point Stacy and James are both trying to pin it on 507 00:35:11,711 --> 00:35:14,748 each other and investigators have to figure out 508 00:35:14,848 --> 00:35:16,716 what really happened to Bob. 509 00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:13,740 [Michael] Now it started to become more like a cat and mouse scenario 510 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,977 and with every increase in detail, Stacy was becoming more 511 00:36:18,078 --> 00:36:19,379 and more of an active participant. 512 00:36:22,349 --> 00:36:23,583 [Shawn] We had more questions. 513 00:36:23,683 --> 00:36:28,088 So my partner brought Stacy back to one of our state police 514 00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:29,756 stations, and that's where they conducted 515 00:36:29,856 --> 00:36:30,924 her videotaped interview. 516 00:36:32,158 --> 00:36:35,695 She sort of excluded herself from all the heavy duty, 517 00:36:35,795 --> 00:36:36,963 the killing part. 518 00:36:37,063 --> 00:36:39,366 However, she proceeded to talk about 519 00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:45,605 what had happened to Bob and the dismemberment, 520 00:36:45,705 --> 00:36:49,209 her own confession to what she had done. 521 00:36:49,309 --> 00:36:50,543 I was ecstatic. 522 00:37:08,495 --> 00:37:12,165 [Michael] Stacy went into all that awful detail about how she disposed 523 00:37:12,265 --> 00:37:17,303 of the body, and using garden shears, and a sledgehammer, 524 00:37:17,404 --> 00:37:20,740 and an axe, just awful stuff. 525 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,677 [Shawn] She said after the dismemberment, they had to 526 00:37:23,777 --> 00:37:27,447 get the body out of there. So they used an air mattress. 527 00:37:28,615 --> 00:37:30,483 They carried Bob's remains. 528 00:37:32,285 --> 00:37:35,155 And they proceeded to go to North Road. 529 00:37:35,255 --> 00:37:38,358 And someone had to hold the cable. 530 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,448 [Shawn] And Stacy 531 00:38:02,649 --> 00:38:04,250 lit the remains on fire 532 00:38:05,552 --> 00:38:07,787 and they fled there. 533 00:38:07,887 --> 00:38:10,557 I think Stacy thought because she had blamed her husband for 534 00:38:10,657 --> 00:38:13,760 killing Bob, that she was going to be OK, 535 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:15,428 and wouldn't be arrested. 536 00:38:30,043 --> 00:38:34,614 [Michael] It appeared Stacy was going to beat James to the punch by 537 00:38:34,714 --> 00:38:37,851 blaming it on him before he could blame her. 538 00:38:37,951 --> 00:38:40,620 I called it "the nuclear option," because it wound up 539 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,055 bringing both of them down. 540 00:38:43,356 --> 00:38:46,760 They each admitted enough about their own involvement to 541 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:49,262 clearly make them culpable in the murder. 542 00:38:51,998 --> 00:38:55,201 [Shawn] For years, we heard this story from the Brittons about Larry 543 00:38:55,301 --> 00:38:57,937 Tooley committing this crime, and there was 544 00:38:58,038 --> 00:39:00,073 the Hugo Selenski angle as well. 545 00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:03,476 Deep down inside myself and my partner, we always thought, 546 00:39:03,576 --> 00:39:05,445 there's just more to this. It doesn't make sense. 547 00:39:06,513 --> 00:39:09,015 [Jody] They thought they committed the perfect murder, 548 00:39:10,283 --> 00:39:11,317 but they were wrong. 549 00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:15,288 [Shawn] They got rid of the body, got rid of evidence. 550 00:39:15,388 --> 00:39:18,458 Their stories were very similar, however, 551 00:39:18,558 --> 00:39:19,659 the devil's in the details. 552 00:39:19,759 --> 00:39:23,029 And I think ultimately it was their own words that -- 553 00:39:23,129 --> 00:39:24,964 that was the best evidence. 554 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:31,538 So investigators arrest both James and Stacy. 555 00:39:31,638 --> 00:39:36,309 In October of 2016, James took the plea and was sentenced to 556 00:39:36,409 --> 00:39:40,880 15 to 30 years in state prison for murder in the third degree, 557 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:43,283 abuse of corpse, and perjury. 558 00:39:43,383 --> 00:39:45,352 But Stacy insisted on going to trial. 559 00:39:46,453 --> 00:39:49,189 [news broadcast] After 14 years of police trying to find the person 560 00:39:49,289 --> 00:39:52,359 who allegedly killed 46-year-old Robert Roudebush, 561 00:39:52,459 --> 00:39:55,562 Stacy Britton is heading into a Monroe County courtroom to 562 00:39:55,662 --> 00:39:56,696 face charges. 563 00:39:57,831 --> 00:40:01,601 [Will] November of 2016, Stacy Britton is convicted of 564 00:40:01,701 --> 00:40:03,803 first-degree murder, hindering, 565 00:40:03,903 --> 00:40:06,206 apprehension, and conspiracy. 566 00:40:06,306 --> 00:40:09,075 She's sentenced to life in prison 567 00:40:09,175 --> 00:40:11,411 without the possibility of parole. 568 00:40:14,114 --> 00:40:17,851 What she did to 569 00:40:19,185 --> 00:40:23,189 get rid of Bob, it was worse than a horror movie. 570 00:40:25,392 --> 00:40:28,628 You can't do this to a human being and get away with it. 571 00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:31,564 [Jody] This is the Super Bowl, 572 00:40:32,966 --> 00:40:36,403 the crime of all crimes, and I'm proud to be a part of 573 00:40:36,503 --> 00:40:39,139 the team that brought justice to the victim. 574 00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:47,247 I think it's so interesting that it was their own mouths 575 00:40:47,347 --> 00:40:49,916 that ended up doing them in. 576 00:40:50,016 --> 00:40:51,217 They had to tell on one another. 577 00:40:51,317 --> 00:40:53,853 They just had such a volatile relationship 578 00:40:53,953 --> 00:40:55,989 that it got the best of them. 579 00:40:57,924 --> 00:41:04,397 And I am very, very thankful that the police stayed on this 580 00:41:05,999 --> 00:41:11,304 because nobody deserves what was done to Bob, nobody. 581 00:41:16,443 --> 00:41:19,946 ♪♪ 582 00:41:20,046 --> 00:41:21,281 [metal dragging] 583 00:41:21,381 --> 00:41:23,216 You have no choice but to think the worst. 584 00:41:23,316 --> 00:41:26,920 Christina had been missing longer than she had been alive. 585 00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:30,023 We had always hoped to bring Christina home. 586 00:41:30,123 --> 00:41:32,392 Whoever did this really knew what they were doing 587 00:41:32,492 --> 00:41:34,494 and did not want her found.