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Today I'm announcing the unsealing of a three-count

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indictment, charging Sean Combs with racketeering conspiracy,

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sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution.

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This is the type of indictment you would expect

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from someone in the mafia.

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They start making this case, in my opinion,

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as a takedown of a successful Black man.

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The freak-offs sometimes lasted days at a time,

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involved multiple commercial sex workers.

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I've spoken to about a half a dozen of these different men

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involved, and I asked them, was there

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any indicia of lack of consent?

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And they said absolutely not.

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And they seized cases and cases of the kinds of personal

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lubricant and baby oil that Combs's staff allegedly used

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to stock hotel rooms for the freak-offs, more than

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1,000 bottles all together.

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How do you explain 1,000 bottles of baby oil?

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He has a big house.

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He buys in bulk.

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You know, I think they have Costcos in every place

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where he has a home.

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I mean, have you sat in a parking of a Costco

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and see what people walk out of there with?

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Not 1,000 bottles of baby oil.

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When I saw the video with Cassie running for her life,

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I cried my eyes out.

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I'm going to show that video over and over and over

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about what happens to women that won't change their stories.

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Combs did not do this all on his own.

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If there are higher-up people, people that are still famous

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right now that are on these videos, Hollywood

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is going to just implode.

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Does this compel you to put him on the stand?

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I don't know that I could keep him off the stand.

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I think he is very eager to tell his story.

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We have obtained video of Diddy's arrest on Monday night.

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And I have to say, he was blindsided.

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Sean "Diddy" Combs was taken into federal

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custody in New York.

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This according to TMZ.

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We're told it happened in a Midtown Manhattan hotel

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where Combs had been staying.

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And according to sources talking to TMZ,

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this actually came a day earlier than originally expected.

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The world-famous Sean "Diddy"

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Combs is expected to be arraigned

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on federal charges this morning, following

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a grand jury indictment.

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Today, I'm announcing the unsealing of a three-count

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indictment, charging Sean Combs with racketeering conspiracy,

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sex trafficking, interstate transportation for prostitution.

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Diddy, among other things, he has been accused

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of sex trafficking, engaging in a conspiracy

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to foster prostitution, racketeering,

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kidnapping, narcotics offenses, arson, bribery.

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That is the beginning.

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The indictment alleges that on more than one occasion,

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Combs carried or brandished firearms

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to intimidate and threaten victims and witnesses.

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The indictment alleged

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some of Combs's employees helped set up

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freak-outs, in which women were forced into sex acts

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with male prostitutes.

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And they seized cases and cases of the kinds of personal

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lubricant and baby oil that Combs's staff allegedly used

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to stock hotel rooms for the freak-offs, more

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than 1,000 bottles altogether.

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Prosecutors now say when

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this notorious video was taken, Cassie was actually

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fleeing a wild freak-off.

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I mean, this has gotten very, very scary.

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Hollywood's in trouble.

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Hip hop and R&B is in trouble.

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Sean "Diddy" Combs has pleaded not guilty

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to several federal charges.

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We are learning in just the last few minutes that

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a federal judge is now refusing to grant Sean "Diddy"

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Combs bail.

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He is going to be behind bars until his trial

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begins, whenever that is.

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Sean Combs really fought to stay out of this place, where

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his attorney called conditions horrific,

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but the judge sent him back, finding Diddy a danger to women.

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We're appealing the decision to hold him without bail.

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TMZ is also reporting Diddy was placed

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on suicide watch at the detention center

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that he's being held at in New York.

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Your reaction to this really stunning indictment?

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I'm very surprised, Harvey, that you say you're stunned.

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What, you need another decade of Sean, a.k.a.

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"Puffy," a.k.a.

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"Diddy," a.k.a.

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"Love" Combs, brutalizing women stunning?

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I'm only stunned it took so long.

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Diddy has dodged a lot of legal bullets in the past.

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Does this one feel different to you?

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It does.

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This one feels different.

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As you know, Harvey, you don't have the Feds raid your homes

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unless they have something of substance,

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something significant.

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Federal law enforcement agents have

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raided properties owned by musician and producer

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Sean "Diddy" Combs.

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There's got to be something there in order for them to put

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themselves in a position with someone who is so powerful, who

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can retaliate, who has the authority and the means

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to be able to fight cases.

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To put yourself in that position,

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there must be something there.

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Let's switch our focus to the government, in my opinion--

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I'm just going to say it the way it is--

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no-- no friend, historically, of the successful Black man.

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OK?

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None.

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And they start making this case, in my opinion,

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as a takedown of a successful Black man.

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I think what is interesting and what was surprising to me

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was when I read the indictment, I dissected the indictment,

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and I looked at count 2, which is the sex trafficking

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count, the sex trafficking by force, coercion, and fraud,

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it only names one victim.

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Hey, Cassie, how are you?

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How do you feel about all the allegations

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with Diddy going on right now?

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And I believe that's Cassie, his long-time girlfriend.

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It only names that one victim, where there's so many women who

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have come forth with civil claims looking for money, making

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allegations against them.

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Now there's only one named victim in that count,

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and that's the count that everyone seems to be talking

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about, that he's involved in sex trafficking,

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and he's using force and coercion.

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It's one named victim in that count.

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And that's surprising to me, considering

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the amount of alleged victims there are in this case.

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What up, Sean? PRESS MEMBER 2: Over here, man.

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Yeah, what's up?

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Do you think the fact that your client is

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a very big celebrity played a part in the Feds' decision

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to indict him?

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I think it played the biggest part.

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I think it played a prominent part.

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I think that-- that if he's not a big celebrity,

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he's just going about his life, you know, without interference

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from the US government.

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Even though a lot of people now claim that they basically

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had knowledge of this, and it certainly was whispered about

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prior to becoming common knowledge,

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I do think that it's probably one of the most seismic events

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in the history of hip hop.

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I have never read 14 pages that contained--

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So many allegations,

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so much shocking information and allegations.

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1, 2, 3.

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This is the type of indictment you would expect

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from someone in the mafia, not somebody

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who runs a clothing line--

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Matter of fact, you can call me Sean John.

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-an alcohol brand--

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Let's be clear, Ciroc is for the culture.

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someone who was at the top of the hip-hop world.

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All about the bitches, baby

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What y'all want to do?

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Want to be ballers, shot callers, brawlers

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To hear charges of transportation,

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of prostitution, sex trafficking,

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it was pretty astonishing.

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You know, you mentioned the mafia.

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The mafia tends to operate underground.

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Diddy operated way above ground for 16 years,

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according to the Feds.

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And there were maybe whispers about this, but none of this

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came to light.

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The reality is Diddy has had run-ins with

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the law several times, and it seems he

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always has gotten away with it.

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So this was really just a build up.

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He was, of course, going to operate in plain sight

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because nothing ever happens to him until now.

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I guess I'd say America loves a story of a good rise.

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America loves a story of a-- of a huge fall.

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And this is certainly up there, you

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know, with any that we've seen.

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But, you know, I certainly didn't

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have any of this stuff on my bingo card,

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covering Puffy for, you know, over a decade.

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There's a lot you can say about the guy.

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But, you know, this stuff just didn't come up in my reporting.

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And I think it took all of us by surprise.

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Am I surprised by the allegations?

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No.

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These are rumors that have been floating around the industry

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for decades now.

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You know, some people have seen them firsthand.

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Some people have just heard about them, you know, directly.

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But many of us who've been in the music industry or music

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industry adjacent have been aware of Puff's

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behavior for many years.

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Freak-offs sometimes lasted days at a time,

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involved multiple commercial sex workers,

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and often involved a variety of narcotics, such as ketamine,

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ecstasy, and GHB, which Combs distributed

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to the victims to keep them obedient and compliant.

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They call them freak-offs.

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But, you know, back when I was a kid in the late '70s, they

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were called threesomes.

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This was, you know, with the woman that

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was his woman at the time--

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Cassie, over here, please,

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And can I see that smile, please?

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and allegedly, a third person

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I've spoken to about a half a dozen of these

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different men involved.

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And I asked them, was there any indicia of lack of consent?

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And they said absolutely not.

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We would never have gone forward a single step

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had it seemed like anybody in that room was not consenting.

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Was anyone high, too high?

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Was anyone drunk?

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No one was too high.

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No one was too drunk.

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If these are genuinely threesomes, how do you explain

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1,000 bottles of baby oil?

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I don't know where the number 1,000 came--

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The US attorney said it.

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I can't imagine it's thousands.

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I mean, you know-- and I'm not really sure what the baby

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oil has to do with anything.

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They're essentially saying it's a lubricant for an orgy.

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I guess.

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I don't know what you need.

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1,000-- I mean, one bottle of baby oil goes a long way.

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I don't know what you need 1,000 for.

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I mean, he has a big house.

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He buys in bulk.

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You know, I think they have Costcos in every place

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where he has a home.

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I mean, have you sat in a parking of a Costco

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and see what people walk out of there with?

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Not 1,000 bottles of baby oil.

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I don't think it was 1,000.

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I think it was--

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I think it was-- let's just say it's a lot, OK?

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The US attorney has said that the freak-off parties are going

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to be the core of this case.

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I've covered a lot of cases in my day.

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I cannot think of a single one that

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is more salacious than United States versus Sean Combs.

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I cannot think of anything that even comes close.

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I can't either.

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And you know, again, if we start hearing the details of what went

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down at these parties, I mean, I remember

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back in the day the allure of a Diddy white party.

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You're going to hear about my parties.

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They're going to be shutting them down.

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They're going to probably be arresting me, doing

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all types of crazy things.

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Everyone wanted to be there.

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It was so secretive.

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And to know that these parties will be on Front Street,

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we are going to hear what happens

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not just at these parties but obviously these after parties.

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I kind of am hoping to hear the details, even as terrible

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and sordid as it may be, because it's astonishing

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that these things could be happening right

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underneath people's noses--

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very famous people.

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If you don't have what they need, they're going to leave.

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Got to keep them there.

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You need locks on the doors.

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That's sounding kind of dangerous now.

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It's a little kinky, but, you know--

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Yeah, yeah.

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But just check it out.

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You need a lot of heat--

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a lot of heat. CONAN O'BRIEN: Heat?

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Yeah.

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You mean physically the place has to be hot.

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Yeah, don't have no air conditioning.

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No air conditioning. - No.

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Why is that?

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Heat affects the alcohol, and it also affects, like--

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everybody gets a little bit more comfortable and loose,

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builds up a nice little sweat.

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Do you ever see any of that in the parties

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that you threw or he threw?

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Did you ever get any sense of that kind

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of eventually evolving?

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My Spidey senses were always on high alert.

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And I know that there's no safety after a certain hour when

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you've got drinks flowing and people behind your back doing

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drugs in bathrooms, two and three people

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walking out of a bathroom together.

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There's no safety in that.

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So could there could there potentially be?

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Absolutely.

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Did I see it?

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No, because I never stayed at a party late enough to see it.

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Did you sense it?

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Did I sense that there could be trouble?

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There could be trouble riding on the subway.

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Yes, I sensed it.

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Yes.

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There's no way out for Diddy on this.

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I'm just telling you, there's no way out.

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All he's going to be able to do now is whine about his jail.

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He might get in a better jail.

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He's going to whine about his tuna fish sandwich and his bunk

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and his naughty roommate.

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Have fun with that, Diddy.

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You look good, man.

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Here's a man who has made some of the most

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important businesses owned by a Black man,

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run, owned, created, founded.

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The vision was that of a Black man.

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What have we done?

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We have reduced him, not everyone,

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but a large amount of our society, to being a monster.

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That should make us shake in our boots.

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Down here at Pura Vida by my pad, run into the mayor right

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here.

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Love.

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What's up?

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The indictment alleges that between at least 2008

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and the present, Combs abused, threatened, and coerced victims

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to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation,

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and conceal his conduct.

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This is the government scrutinizing his businesses.

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His businesses are fine.

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Scrutinizing the taxes.

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He pays his taxes.

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He does everything right.

335
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What's the last vestige?

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We're going to go into his bedroom.

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We're going to go into his bedroom

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because maybe we don't like the way he's having sex.

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Diddy, come on, hook us up.

340
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Hook a brother up, man.

341
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Appreciate it.

342
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I really wanted to get somebody who

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is just all over this genre.

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And I want to talk to you about the whispers,

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because according to prosecutors,

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this has been going on for 16 years at least.

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And yet, nothing surfaced publicly until Cassie.

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So what were the whispers over the years?

349
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What were people saying?

350
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There was a lot of talk of party parties or Diddy parties,

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as they're kind of known now.

352
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It was always sort of known that if you went to a party

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at Puff's house and were you to stay

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past certain hours that you might be introduced

355
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to some sort of massive orgy.

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There was just a lot of whispers about what

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it might have consisted of.

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This about we.

359
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This is motherfucking bad boy, bitch.

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We love everybody.

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Certainly, I don't think

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that it was common knowledge that there was so much

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non-consensual stuff going on or any of the seedier allegations,

364
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but it was definitely discussed.

365
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Years ago, Diddy was on Ellen DeGeneres's talk show.

366
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And she even joked about that.

367
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I could think of you starting a party at, like, midnight.

368
00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:09,234
Like, what time will it go till?

369
00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:11,270
That's a different type of party, though.

370
00:16:12,938 --> 00:16:14,807
No, it'd go from, like, 9:30 to, like,

371
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maybe 3 o'clock, 2-3 o'clock.

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And then we have the top two floors of the hotel.

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And then it will carry on there?

374
00:16:21,714 --> 00:16:22,481
Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, the after party.

376
00:16:25,784 --> 00:16:26,752
No, I know about them.

377
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I listen to the music.

378
00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:34,426
I've heard that song "After Party."

379
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:40,466
No, I mean, I think everybody knew that Diddy was a highly

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sexual individual and that he certainly

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was a fan of drugs in general.

382
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Let's go, baby.

383
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How could this go under the radar for 16 years?

384
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I think that Diddy, over those years, before he was

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apprehended, I think that it was just

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his ego just kept inflating.

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And he kept getting away with more and more things.

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00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:06,425
If you go back to the Shyne incident,

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that was an incident in which he assaulted somebody

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in a nightclub in front of presumably hundreds

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of powerful people, influential people.

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Prosecutors then say one of Combs' associates,

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19-year-old Jamal Barrow, also known as the rapper Shyne,

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opened fire while Combs reportedly

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pulled out a pistol of his own.

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And he got away with it.

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He was able to make this young artist basically

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take the fall for him.

399
00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:34,219
I had nothing to do with a shooting in this club.

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I want to make this a 100% clear.

401
00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:42,127
I had nothing to do with a shooting in this club.

402
00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:47,266
And I feel terrible that people were hurt that night.

403
00:17:47,366 --> 00:17:50,569
I am Natania Reuben.

404
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I'm a mom.

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I'm a business owner.

406
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I'm a daughter.

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And I am a victim of gun violence.

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Three people inside the club were injured,

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two of them critically, including

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a young woman with a bullet lodged in her cheek.

411
00:18:05,451 --> 00:18:09,288
I am the woman who was shot on December 27, 1999,

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in Club New York by Sean Puffy Combs.

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I have said it from that day, and I will say it till I die.

414
00:18:18,263 --> 00:18:22,568
I just watched Shyne and Puffy start backing back

415
00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:24,603
towards the door, like you would see in any movie

416
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when someone is backing away from a scene

417
00:18:27,406 --> 00:18:28,974
but reaching to their side.

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They were reaching to their side,

419
00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:34,146
backing away from the scene to get to the front door.

420
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I turned around to tell my friends, oh, my god.

421
00:18:36,815 --> 00:18:38,117
Oh, my god, watch out.

422
00:18:38,217 --> 00:18:39,852
I think they're going to-- this is getting crazy.

423
00:18:39,952 --> 00:18:41,420
I think they're going to shoot.

424
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I saw the muzzle flash, and the bullet slammed into my face.

425
00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:45,124
I watched them.

426
00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:46,925
I watched both of them fire their guns.

427
00:18:47,025 --> 00:18:51,029
Do you have any sense of which person

428
00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,232
fired the shot that hit you?

429
00:18:53,332 --> 00:18:54,266
Absolutely.

430
00:18:54,366 --> 00:18:55,901
Shyne was closest to the bar.

431
00:18:56,001 --> 00:18:57,803
Puffy was closest to me.

432
00:18:57,903 --> 00:18:59,571
Remember one thing.

433
00:18:59,671 --> 00:19:03,308
This man testified to a jury in 2001,

434
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and he saw 12 New Yorkers look him dead in the eye and say,

435
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you're not guilty.

436
00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:15,354
Why do you think it took 16 years for authorities to really

437
00:19:15,454 --> 00:19:19,224
come down hard on Diddy, given what you say happened to you,

438
00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:22,294
what happened to Cassie, and what allegedly

439
00:19:22,394 --> 00:19:24,096
happened to many other people?

440
00:19:24,196 --> 00:19:25,164
There's an old adage.

441
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Every dog has his day.

442
00:19:26,732 --> 00:19:29,201
This victory is not just a victory for Cassie,

443
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for little Rod, for me, it's a victory for everyone

444
00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:36,775
who has felt the specter of violence, oppression,

445
00:19:36,875 --> 00:19:39,011
wickedness, evil, whatever.

446
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I am the fucking hottest hustler in the world.

447
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This is savage part two.

448
00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:46,084
Don't tell me about shit.

449
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,787
It's 2022, and I'm still a savage.

450
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Whatever I want, I get.

451
00:19:50,222 --> 00:19:53,325
Whatever I want, I fucking get.

452
00:19:53,425 --> 00:19:56,828
People were definitely talking about

453
00:19:56,929 --> 00:20:01,567
not just his emotional abuse, but his physical abuse,

454
00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:04,870
and his temper, and his anger, and his treatment of women.

455
00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:09,274
And there was a lot of rumor and a lot of fear.

456
00:20:09,374 --> 00:20:12,411
Fear of retaliation?

457
00:20:12,511 --> 00:20:17,583
Fear of retaliation, fear of reputational damage,

458
00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:19,985
and fear of being called inauthentic

459
00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:25,591
by a culture that unfortunately values sexual violence.

460
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The personality profile that I would assess to Puffy

461
00:20:32,598 --> 00:20:34,600
during the years we were working together

462
00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:44,076
was very hard working, ingenious, creative, demanding,

463
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prone to temper tantrums.

464
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If he didn't have his way, screamed a lot.

465
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Did y'all know that's the hustle?

466
00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:55,954
You make enough money to pay everybody so you don't do shit

467
00:20:56,054 --> 00:20:57,990
but be as happy as you can be.

468
00:20:58,090 --> 00:20:59,291
I want to be happy.

469
00:20:59,391 --> 00:21:00,659
I've paid too many people.

470
00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:04,630
I have heard that you would refer

471
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:08,934
to Diddy as the problem child.

472
00:21:09,034 --> 00:21:10,135
Is that right?

473
00:21:10,235 --> 00:21:11,603
Yes, I called him my problem child.

474
00:21:11,703 --> 00:21:14,539
I used to always joke that I had the Notorious B.I.G.

475
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,908
and I had the notorious VIP.

476
00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:19,578
And the notorious VIP is Puffy.

477
00:21:25,817 --> 00:21:29,421
Sean Diddy Combs was a hero to a lot of people.

478
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He also fed a lot of mouths.

479
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:35,994
And he kept a lot of people clothed and employed.

480
00:21:36,094 --> 00:21:39,364
So people were afraid to come out and talk about it.

481
00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:42,100
I interviewed his former makeup artist,

482
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,638
Miles Morales, who said she was horrified at what she heard.

483
00:21:46,738 --> 00:21:49,074
She heard him beating Cassie behind closed doors

484
00:21:49,174 --> 00:21:51,810
and basically got her out of there, packed her bags,

485
00:21:51,910 --> 00:21:54,079
and then took her to see a doctor.

486
00:21:54,179 --> 00:21:57,149
So I think people were afraid for their careers.

487
00:21:57,249 --> 00:21:58,650
They were afraid for their livelihoods.

488
00:21:58,750 --> 00:22:01,987
He was very quick to anger.

489
00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:05,724
He was quick to have a reaction to things.

490
00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:10,829
And he really felt that he was impenetrable.

491
00:22:10,929 --> 00:22:13,231
He felt that nobody could go after him, that nobody

492
00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:14,299
could take him down.

493
00:22:14,399 --> 00:22:15,734
He had a god complex.

494
00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:17,736
Puffy really had a god complex.

495
00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:20,872
And that defined a lot of his interactions

496
00:22:20,972 --> 00:22:24,009
with people that he considered lesser than.

497
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Act bad.

498
00:22:25,243 --> 00:22:27,212
It's going to be an act bad summer.

499
00:22:27,312 --> 00:22:31,550
Act bad just means being free, enjoying yourself, letting

500
00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:35,454
it go, not giving a fuck.

501
00:22:35,554 --> 00:22:36,888
Let's get ready to act bad.

502
00:22:36,988 --> 00:22:39,291
Diddy was able to get away with lots of stuff

503
00:22:39,391 --> 00:22:41,460
for a long time for a few reasons.

504
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,863
One, he was cast in the public image as the alternative

505
00:22:44,963 --> 00:22:45,664
to Suge Knight.

506
00:22:45,764 --> 00:22:47,632
Suge's the big bad monster.

507
00:22:47,733 --> 00:22:49,968
Diddy's the nice guy that wants to get along.

508
00:22:53,472 --> 00:22:54,906
Diddy is also quite charming.

509
00:22:55,006 --> 00:22:57,843
He will disarm you with his smile, with his conversation.

510
00:22:57,943 --> 00:23:00,379
And in my interactions with him, he's a very nice guy.

511
00:23:00,479 --> 00:23:01,780
I have nothing bad to say about him.

512
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,582
I've never had a bad interaction with Diddy.

513
00:23:03,682 --> 00:23:06,118
And then there's also the fact that Diddy is quite powerful.

514
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:07,452
What more do I have to do, man?

515
00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:09,254
Look at my hat, man.

516
00:23:09,354 --> 00:23:10,856
Look at my hat.

517
00:23:10,956 --> 00:23:13,225
Look how I show up on-- look how I show up on the Amalfi Coast,

518
00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:15,327
B. Am I letting y'all down?

519
00:23:15,427 --> 00:23:16,628
Let me know.

520
00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:18,563
Am I not representing y'all the right way?

521
00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:19,965
You know what I'm saying?

522
00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:20,899
The fuck.

523
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,872
New surveillance footage obtained exclusively

524
00:23:26,972 --> 00:23:30,842
by CNN appears to corroborate some of the allegations of abuse

525
00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:33,612
against music mogul Sean Diddy Combs.

526
00:23:33,712 --> 00:23:35,847
The video captured on multiple cameras

527
00:23:35,947 --> 00:23:38,583
shows Combs wearing only a towel,

528
00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:41,586
assaulting his then girlfriend, Cassie Ventura, in a hallway

529
00:23:41,686 --> 00:23:44,990
at a Los Angeles hotel in March 2016.

530
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:47,292
I think the Cassie video was the moment

531
00:23:47,392 --> 00:23:51,363
where everybody in hip hop basically had to stop pretending

532
00:23:51,463 --> 00:23:52,831
that this was all a witch hunt.

533
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,133
I think that there was a strong incentive

534
00:23:55,233 --> 00:23:58,570
for a lot of people to basically say, well, Diddy,

535
00:23:58,670 --> 00:24:00,205
he's a sexual guy.

536
00:24:00,305 --> 00:24:01,606
He's a freaky guy.

537
00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:03,608
He may or may not be bisexual.

538
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,243
But was he an abuser?

539
00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:06,711
Was he a monster? No way.

540
00:24:06,812 --> 00:24:07,846
I don't believe that.

541
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:09,481
But then when you see that video,

542
00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:11,650
it's kind of hard to imagine this guy actually having

543
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:14,853
a sane, rational, normal sex life

544
00:24:14,953 --> 00:24:19,124
when you can witness him behaving in such a way

545
00:24:19,224 --> 00:24:20,459
to his long-time girlfriend.

546
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,761
So I think that when that tape hit,

547
00:24:22,861 --> 00:24:24,596
it really kind of changed the game.

548
00:24:24,696 --> 00:24:27,732
But we are able to shun him.

549
00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:31,970
And he should be treated like the leper, the social leper

550
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:33,538
and criminal he is.

551
00:24:33,638 --> 00:24:36,174
We saw him commit assault.

552
00:24:36,274 --> 00:24:42,514
When I saw the video with Cassie running for her life,

553
00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:50,856
I cried my eyes out and wondered how she got there

554
00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:54,893
and how he got to a place where he could

555
00:24:54,993 --> 00:24:58,530
brutalize someone in that way and think

556
00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:01,900
that he could get away with it.

557
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,269
And gentlemen, everybody in this side right

558
00:25:04,369 --> 00:25:05,737
here.

559
00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:09,040
When I got the nerve to really watch it and analyze it,

560
00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:15,580
I was stricken with how easily he delivered the blows.

561
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,482
As Ventura lies on the ground,

562
00:25:17,582 --> 00:25:19,618
Combs then kicks her twice.

563
00:25:19,718 --> 00:25:21,853
Anybody who has watched that video--

564
00:25:21,953 --> 00:25:24,623
and I imagine millions of people have watched that video--

565
00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:26,892
you can't watch it and think that is

566
00:25:26,992 --> 00:25:31,796
a man that has compassion, that is a man that treats women well.

567
00:25:31,897 --> 00:25:35,834
There's no excuse for anything that happened on that video.

568
00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:38,003
And he's going to have a hard time convincing

569
00:25:38,103 --> 00:25:42,340
anyone, especially a jury, that he's a standup guy

570
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,745
and has been for years and that was just a one-off thing.

571
00:25:46,845 --> 00:25:49,781
I think that it is game over.

572
00:25:49,881 --> 00:25:51,316
There may have been a path forward

573
00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:52,918
before we saw him in action.

574
00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:56,888
But now that we've seen him physically assault Cassie,

575
00:25:56,988 --> 00:25:59,691
I just don't see how any of us can erase that from our minds.

576
00:25:59,791 --> 00:26:02,260
Mr. Combs, himself, went publicly

577
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,362
and apologized for the video.

578
00:26:04,462 --> 00:26:07,299
And it was hard to watch for him.

579
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:08,967
It was hard to watch for me.

580
00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:11,102
It's hard to watch for anyone.

581
00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:16,174
That being said, it is not evidence of sex trafficking.

582
00:26:16,274 --> 00:26:21,379
There was a certain level of toxicity and drug use

583
00:26:21,479 --> 00:26:24,983
in the 10-year relationship between Mr.

584
00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:27,452
Combs and the woman that he was in love with,

585
00:26:27,552 --> 00:26:29,988
very much in love with, and who was very much in love with

586
00:26:30,088 --> 00:26:32,123
him for a period of 10 years.

587
00:26:32,223 --> 00:26:36,494
Their difficulties did not stem from their intimate time

588
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:37,762
together.

589
00:26:37,862 --> 00:26:39,798
Their difficulties stemmed from the fact

590
00:26:39,898 --> 00:26:44,002
that she was cheating on him and he was cheating on her.

591
00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:48,139
And what we see in that video is terrible.

592
00:26:48,239 --> 00:26:49,774
It's unforgivable.

593
00:26:49,874 --> 00:26:52,043
And we don't seek to forgive it.

594
00:26:52,143 --> 00:26:54,579
But it's not related to the charge.

595
00:26:54,679 --> 00:26:55,947
There were the folks who

596
00:26:56,047 --> 00:26:57,949
would say, what was she doing?

597
00:26:58,049 --> 00:26:59,918
Anybody who accused of beating a woman

598
00:27:00,018 --> 00:27:01,586
or putting their hands on a woman.

599
00:27:01,686 --> 00:27:03,788
We don't know what she was doing before that

600
00:27:03,888 --> 00:27:05,156
to cause him to do that.

601
00:27:05,256 --> 00:27:08,493
Well, there's nothing that you can do to cause

602
00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:09,728
someone to react that way.

603
00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:12,297
No one deserves to be beaten like that.

604
00:27:12,397 --> 00:27:13,164
What's up?

605
00:27:13,264 --> 00:27:13,865
What's up, Diddy?

606
00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:14,833
How are you doing, man?

607
00:27:14,933 --> 00:27:16,301
How are you doing, man.

608
00:27:16,401 --> 00:27:21,573
Do you think the defense will try and argue to the judge

609
00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:30,548
that the Cassie video is so incendiary, so inflammatory, so

610
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:36,921
prejudicial that he couldn't get a fair trial if the jury absorbs

611
00:27:37,022 --> 00:27:39,891
it, so that they would try to keep it out

612
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,827
because it's simply too prejudicial?

613
00:27:42,927 --> 00:27:44,629
Is that something they would argue?

614
00:27:44,729 --> 00:27:46,931
And is it something that would fly?

615
00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:48,266
You're a lawyer, huh?

616
00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:50,802
So that's the great argument, Harvey.

617
00:27:50,902 --> 00:27:52,804
So, yes, that's something that they would argue.

618
00:27:52,904 --> 00:27:54,639
That's something that they definitely will argue.

619
00:27:54,739 --> 00:27:57,609
I would argue it because it's not tied into these freak-offs.

620
00:27:57,709 --> 00:28:02,647
This whole thing is about these sex romps, the sex trafficking.

621
00:28:02,747 --> 00:28:07,018
That's an isolated incident that has nothing to do with the sex

622
00:28:07,118 --> 00:28:11,923
trafficking, these freak-offs, the prostitution, the lack of

623
00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:13,992
consent for sex, the coercion.

624
00:28:14,092 --> 00:28:16,361
That is a fight between a couple,

625
00:28:16,461 --> 00:28:17,662
an ugly fight between a couple.

626
00:28:17,762 --> 00:28:18,963
And like you just said, that will

627
00:28:19,064 --> 00:28:21,199
inflame the passions of a jury.

628
00:28:21,299 --> 00:28:23,935
Anyone who looks at that is disgusted.

629
00:28:24,035 --> 00:28:25,637
I'm disgusted looking at that.

630
00:28:25,737 --> 00:28:26,871
How do you hit a woman?

631
00:28:26,971 --> 00:28:29,240
I mean, to me, it's a horrible thing.

632
00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:32,911
And the prejudicial value will clearly

633
00:28:33,011 --> 00:28:35,914
outweigh the probative value in this instance.

634
00:28:36,014 --> 00:28:37,449
Will a judge preclude it?

635
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,918
Probably not the way things have been going for him,

636
00:28:40,018 --> 00:28:41,586
because the prosecution's going to argue

637
00:28:41,686 --> 00:28:45,924
it's a pattern of his behavior, including violent behavior

638
00:28:46,024 --> 00:28:49,394
that he employed against women.

639
00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:51,930
The Cassie video was such a big deal.

640
00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:54,532
But really, him throwing his girlfriend

641
00:28:54,632 --> 00:28:57,202
on the ground in the hotel hallway,

642
00:28:57,302 --> 00:28:59,170
that kind of pales in comparison to a lot

643
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:01,873
of the things that have been alleged in this indictment.

644
00:29:01,973 --> 00:29:04,976
So if there's further video footage--

645
00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:08,947
and presumably there's a lot of this footage--

646
00:29:09,047 --> 00:29:10,682
it's going be crazy.

647
00:29:10,782 --> 00:29:13,685
Harvey, talk about the Cassie video

648
00:29:13,785 --> 00:29:16,254
being inflammatory to a jury.

649
00:29:16,354 --> 00:29:19,924
Wait till they see the freak-off videos.

650
00:29:20,024 --> 00:29:24,129
The Cassie Ventura video, that's child's play

651
00:29:24,229 --> 00:29:28,466
compared to what they're going to see in freak-off videos.

652
00:29:32,637 --> 00:29:33,772
Diddy.

653
00:29:33,872 --> 00:29:35,140
R&B singer Cassie has accused

654
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,742
hip hop mogul Sean Diddy Combs of rape

655
00:29:37,842 --> 00:29:40,011
and a decade of physical abuse.

656
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:42,547
The two were romantically involved for years.

657
00:29:42,647 --> 00:29:46,818
But in a lawsuit, Cassie says there was a pattern of control,

658
00:29:46,918 --> 00:29:52,056
drug use, and forced sexual encounters.

659
00:29:52,157 --> 00:29:57,228
I find it unbelievable that Diddy did not

660
00:29:57,328 --> 00:30:02,801
settle that lawsuit before it got filed, and especially

661
00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:05,336
knowing that there was surveillance

662
00:30:05,436 --> 00:30:10,942
video of the incident in 2016, that if he

663
00:30:11,042 --> 00:30:13,478
would have settled with her, we may not

664
00:30:13,578 --> 00:30:15,079
be talking about this today.

665
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:18,483
Cassie is the one that opened Pandora's box.

666
00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:23,221
And had she just gotten the money, gone away,

667
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:25,290
Diddy might be a free man today.

668
00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:29,294
I have to imagine when Diddy woke up in his jail

669
00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:33,031
cell that first day, he thought, why didn't I just take the deal?

670
00:30:33,131 --> 00:30:34,532
Because exactly that.

671
00:30:34,632 --> 00:30:38,002
If he had just settled, we probably would have never

672
00:30:38,102 --> 00:30:39,704
known any of this went down.

673
00:30:39,804 --> 00:30:43,441
So for us it's a blessing, because if he is found guilty

674
00:30:43,541 --> 00:30:46,044
of all of the things that are alleged in this indictment,

675
00:30:46,144 --> 00:30:49,314
we don't want a person like that walking around in society.

676
00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:56,287
Main emotion I always get when I see a man putting

677
00:30:56,387 --> 00:30:58,690
his hands on a woman in this way is just

678
00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:00,091
disgust and disappointment.

679
00:31:00,191 --> 00:31:02,126
Like, you know, yeah, Diddy need his ass beat.

680
00:31:02,227 --> 00:31:04,095
Like, I wish Cassie would have had a gun on her

681
00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,297
and would have shot him right there on the spot.

682
00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:12,136
Honestly, I don't understand

683
00:31:12,237 --> 00:31:14,739
how this case was handled on behalf of P Diddy,

684
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:16,341
on behalf of Combs.

685
00:31:16,441 --> 00:31:20,245
There's no reason to have those settlement negotiations, which

686
00:31:20,345 --> 00:31:22,647
they were engaged in for quite some time,

687
00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:26,951
not agree to a settlement, let her file the case,

688
00:31:27,051 --> 00:31:29,254
have a front page of every newspaper have

689
00:31:29,354 --> 00:31:31,990
explosive allegations against your client,

690
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:34,259
and then settle one day later.

691
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,028
That was absolutely the worst of all worlds,

692
00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:41,566
because what you have is now an allegation that destroys

693
00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:43,067
reputationally this guy.

694
00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,837
It's actually what started this federal investigation.

695
00:31:45,937 --> 00:31:48,940
Had Diddy settled with Cassie

696
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,610
before she filed a lawsuit, you and I

697
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:54,812
might not be speaking today.

698
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,214
I agree with you 100%.

699
00:31:56,314 --> 00:31:58,349
There's no criminal case if that happens.

700
00:31:58,449 --> 00:32:02,086
The lawyers let her file a lawsuit,

701
00:32:02,186 --> 00:32:05,957
settle 24 hours later, and open Pandora's box.

702
00:32:06,057 --> 00:32:07,091
That's pretty incredible.

703
00:32:07,191 --> 00:32:08,760
And unfortunate.

704
00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:11,129
Had it been settled quietly, they

705
00:32:11,229 --> 00:32:14,065
would have never known about it to have the opportunity

706
00:32:14,165 --> 00:32:15,433
to do what they did.

707
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:17,869
He must be kicking himself for that.

708
00:32:17,969 --> 00:32:20,571
You know, he is so focused on trying to right

709
00:32:20,672 --> 00:32:24,375
this wrong that it's actually giving him a form of strength

710
00:32:24,475 --> 00:32:26,411
and a form of confidence that I think

711
00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:28,813
is going to get him through this difficult time period.

712
00:32:28,913 --> 00:32:31,883
There's an adage that we have in my office, "Don't tell me

713
00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:32,784
what I did wrong.

714
00:32:32,884 --> 00:32:34,018
Tell me what I do next."

715
00:32:34,118 --> 00:32:35,153
And that's where he is.

716
00:32:35,253 --> 00:32:37,455
Sean, Cassie, this way!

717
00:32:37,555 --> 00:32:38,856
Sean, Cassie.

718
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:41,192
Cassie Ventura's bombshell lawsuit in November

719
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:43,728
that opened the door, really the floodgates

720
00:32:43,828 --> 00:32:47,432
for all these similar allegations to come forward.

721
00:32:47,532 --> 00:32:50,601
Well, this latest lawsuit was filed by adult film star Adria

722
00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:53,237
English, where she alleges that she was forced to drink

723
00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:55,540
alcohol and consume drugs and then was,

724
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,875
quote, passed off to be sexually assaulted.

725
00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:01,579
In a 79-page lawsuit filed by a music producer who claims

726
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:04,349
to have worked with and lived with Sean Combs for a period

727
00:33:04,449 --> 00:33:06,617
of time alleges there were underage girls,

728
00:33:06,718 --> 00:33:09,921
hidden cameras, and sexual harassment at his home.

729
00:33:12,623 --> 00:33:14,192
How you doing?

730
00:33:16,961 --> 00:33:19,464
In a new lawsuit, Dawn Richard,

731
00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:22,633
who is a member of the Combs-formed group Danity Kane,

732
00:33:22,734 --> 00:33:28,006
accuses him of terrorizing and sexually abusing her for years.

733
00:33:28,106 --> 00:33:31,242
Indicted music mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs is facing

734
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,611
new sex assault allegations.

735
00:33:33,711 --> 00:33:35,880
A woman named Thalia Graves just filed

736
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:40,451
a lawsuit accusing him of drugging and then raping her.

737
00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:42,020
This is more than two decades ago.

738
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,755
It opened a Pandora's box, because what

739
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,156
else it did was this.

740
00:33:45,256 --> 00:33:48,026
If you make a claim against me, within 24 hours,

741
00:33:48,126 --> 00:33:49,260
I will settle with you.

742
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,097
So of course, now the floodgates open.

743
00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,899
Legally, I don't understand.

744
00:33:54,999 --> 00:33:56,267
That was maybe the worst strategy

745
00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:57,402
I've ever seen in my life.

746
00:33:57,502 --> 00:34:00,271
Shocking new accusations,

747
00:34:00,371 --> 00:34:03,541
his alleged victim humiliated and traumatized.

748
00:34:03,641 --> 00:34:05,710
Diddy's legal troubles just got bigger.

749
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:08,880
Sean "Diddy" Combs faces another new lawsuit,

750
00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:10,481
the second this week.

751
00:34:10,581 --> 00:34:13,885
A fourth woman is now suing music mogul Sean Combs,

752
00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:15,686
claiming he sexually assaulted her

753
00:34:15,787 --> 00:34:17,221
when she was just a teenager.

754
00:34:17,321 --> 00:34:20,158
Now another woman has come forward accusing hip hop mogul

755
00:34:20,258 --> 00:34:22,693
Sean "Diddy" Combs of sexual assault.

756
00:34:22,794 --> 00:34:25,830
This is the eighth lawsuit against Combs since November.

757
00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:29,767
Cassie Ventura really opened the floodgates,

758
00:34:29,867 --> 00:34:31,035
and women now feel empowered.

759
00:34:31,135 --> 00:34:32,603
And a whole lot of people are coming out,

760
00:34:32,703 --> 00:34:35,306
and they're telling their stories about Diddy.

761
00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:36,941
I have to imagine we are going

762
00:34:37,041 --> 00:34:41,045
to see a long line of people who want him to be found guilty

763
00:34:41,145 --> 00:34:42,814
in the criminal trial, because it makes,

764
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:47,585
obviously, the civil cases that much more easy once he is

765
00:34:47,685 --> 00:34:49,921
found guilty or if he is found guilty

766
00:34:50,021 --> 00:34:53,257
of these criminal charges.

767
00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:56,260
I have to imagine his assets just get seized,

768
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,862
they start getting auctioned off.

769
00:34:57,962 --> 00:35:01,199
And I think the fact that he has a lot of money

770
00:35:01,299 --> 00:35:02,967
kind of fuels that fire.

771
00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:07,338
Because this is not like suing somebody who's judgment-proof.

772
00:35:07,438 --> 00:35:09,240
There's a lot of money to go around.

773
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:11,342
There is a lot of money to go around.

774
00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:15,246
And I think even if he escapes these criminal charges,

775
00:35:15,346 --> 00:35:18,983
he's going to have years and years ahead of him

776
00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:21,252
with these civil lawsuits.

777
00:35:21,352 --> 00:35:23,921
The woman bringing this latest lawsuit

778
00:35:24,021 --> 00:35:25,756
says she was only 17 when she was

779
00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:28,259
a victim of sex trafficking and gang rape

780
00:35:28,359 --> 00:35:30,394
by Combs and his associates.

781
00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:34,265
She alleges in 1991 Sean "Diddy" Combs drugged her,

782
00:35:34,365 --> 00:35:35,933
then sexually assaulted her.

783
00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:39,370
In the suit, she says he videotaped and distributed it.

784
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:41,672
Lampros claims the rapper forced her to take

785
00:35:41,772 --> 00:35:44,876
ecstasy and demanded she have sexual intercourse

786
00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:46,344
with Kim Porter.

787
00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:48,112
She says Combs then began

788
00:35:48,212 --> 00:35:50,781
kissing her without her consent and forced

789
00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:55,286
her to perform oral sex on him.

790
00:35:55,386 --> 00:35:58,890
I have had women that a rape,

791
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:03,494
even if it was when they were a child, ruins their life.

792
00:36:03,594 --> 00:36:06,397
They can't have a relationship.

793
00:36:06,497 --> 00:36:09,400
They can't make love with their husband.

794
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,702
They can't have a family.

795
00:36:11,802 --> 00:36:13,671
They have flashbacks.

796
00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:15,206
They are afraid.

797
00:36:15,306 --> 00:36:16,307
They have night terrors.

798
00:36:16,407 --> 00:36:18,876
And it never goes away.

799
00:36:18,976 --> 00:36:23,714
And if you do manage to marry or have children or have a family

800
00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:28,186
in some way, it affects the way you raise your children,

801
00:36:28,286 --> 00:36:29,687
how you see the world.

802
00:36:29,787 --> 00:36:33,758
It's never over, Harvey.

803
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:35,593
It's never over.

804
00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:40,965
No, no, no, no, no.

805
00:36:41,065 --> 00:36:42,133
Not yet, not yet, not yet.

806
00:36:42,233 --> 00:36:43,701
You see, messing up.

807
00:36:43,801 --> 00:36:44,435
That's your problem.

808
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:45,336
That's your problem.

809
00:36:45,436 --> 00:36:46,470
I've got a nice--

810
00:36:46,571 --> 00:36:48,105
go get a drink downstairs.

811
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:52,143
Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances,

812
00:36:52,243 --> 00:36:55,613
which he called "freak-offs," and he often

813
00:36:55,713 --> 00:36:57,448
electronically recorded them.

814
00:37:00,351 --> 00:37:02,987
Hollywood is often quick to speak

815
00:37:03,087 --> 00:37:07,391
up and speak loudly when somebody does something bad.

816
00:37:07,491 --> 00:37:10,094
But they've been silent on Diddy.

817
00:37:10,194 --> 00:37:13,497
I'm wondering if there are a lot of nervous people in this town,

818
00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:16,867
especially now knowing that there are videos.

819
00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:19,537
There should be a lot of nervous people in this town.

820
00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:22,206
If there are higher-up people, people that are still

821
00:37:22,306 --> 00:37:26,277
famous right now that are on these videos,

822
00:37:26,377 --> 00:37:27,745
it's going to blow--

823
00:37:27,845 --> 00:37:30,648
I mean, Hollywood is going to just implode, I think.

824
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:33,017
Diddy party stories, they're our favorite genre

825
00:37:33,117 --> 00:37:35,086
of anecdote, if you have one. ASHTON KUTCHER: Really?

826
00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:36,120
Wow.

827
00:37:36,220 --> 00:37:37,855
OK I've got a lot I can't tell.

828
00:37:37,955 --> 00:37:42,660
So-- [sigh] I can't tell that one either.

829
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,364
Fair to say that some of these videos

830
00:37:46,464 --> 00:37:50,167
might include people other than Cassie and Diddy

831
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:55,706
and that there might be other celebrities on these videos?

832
00:37:55,806 --> 00:37:58,609
I don't know of other celebrities, I'll tell you that.

833
00:37:58,709 --> 00:38:01,379
In terms of the other people, I don't want to comment

834
00:38:01,479 --> 00:38:02,647
on that until I've seen them.

835
00:38:02,747 --> 00:38:04,282
That's probably a bridge too far for me,

836
00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:06,017
because I haven't seen the evidence yet.

837
00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:08,252
But we'll see what's on them.

838
00:38:08,352 --> 00:38:12,990
What about his desire to bring

839
00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:14,525
celebrities into the fold?

840
00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:18,095
Based on what you know about him, was that something

841
00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:20,898
that was always his end game?

842
00:38:20,998 --> 00:38:25,169
Because what I'm wondering is, what's on these video tapes?

843
00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:27,538
I think the prosecutors have them.

844
00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:31,208
The question is, did he court celebrities to come to these?

845
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:32,610
He was a celebrity magnet.

846
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:37,248
My phone rang consistently with celebrities asking,

847
00:38:37,348 --> 00:38:38,949
can I come to the party?

848
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:40,418
When is the next party?

849
00:38:40,518 --> 00:38:41,752
Put my name down.

850
00:38:41,852 --> 00:38:42,687
Take my number.

851
00:38:42,787 --> 00:38:45,423
The parties were fantastic, Harvey.

852
00:38:49,093 --> 00:38:50,561
Let it breathe, Quincy!

853
00:38:50,661 --> 00:38:53,331
Breathe.

854
00:38:53,431 --> 00:38:54,332
Fantastic.

855
00:38:54,432 --> 00:38:55,733
And then they went sideways.

856
00:38:58,102 --> 00:38:59,236
I suppose.

857
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,706
I never stayed long enough to find out.

858
00:39:03,874 --> 00:39:05,843
Shake your body down to the ground

859
00:39:05,943 --> 00:39:07,411
Let's dance, let's shout

860
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:09,146
Shake your body down to the ground.

861
00:39:09,246 --> 00:39:11,782
So who was with you this weekend?

862
00:39:11,882 --> 00:39:14,085
A bunch of my friends.

863
00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:17,788
Diddy, Quincy, Justin Bieber.

864
00:39:17,888 --> 00:39:19,323
So far, so good.

865
00:39:19,423 --> 00:39:20,524
French Montana.

866
00:39:20,624 --> 00:39:22,059
I got on a plane

867
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,996
at 5:30 AM to go to this party.

868
00:39:26,097 --> 00:39:28,399
I think half the people there were butt naked.

869
00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:31,669
Diddy threw lots of parties

870
00:39:31,769 --> 00:39:35,406
that were filled with celebrities, big celebrities.

871
00:39:45,249 --> 00:39:49,520
Let's make a toast to Sean Combs, Puff Daddy.

872
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:54,291
And as you say, there were whispers about what happens late

873
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:59,163
into the night at various parties, not to mention specific

874
00:39:59,263 --> 00:40:00,698
parties like freak-offs.

875
00:40:00,798 --> 00:40:03,667
How likely is it, do you think, that there

876
00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:05,236
are celebrities there?

877
00:40:05,336 --> 00:40:08,005
I would assume that the vast majority of the people involved

878
00:40:08,105 --> 00:40:11,409
in these freak-offs would be celebrities, at least

879
00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:12,810
on the male side of things.

880
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:14,812
It's easy for me to imagine, and from what we've

881
00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:16,347
heard, that a lot of these parties

882
00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:18,682
might be like a handful of guys and then

883
00:40:18,783 --> 00:40:21,285
dozens or even hundreds of women who

884
00:40:21,385 --> 00:40:24,121
are basically involved in it.

885
00:40:24,221 --> 00:40:25,222
Touch the star.

886
00:40:25,322 --> 00:40:26,457
Touch the star.

887
00:40:26,557 --> 00:40:27,792
The real sad part about it

888
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:33,364
is the silence of the people in Hollywood.

889
00:40:33,464 --> 00:40:34,832
Are they scared?

890
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:36,867
Are they nervous for themselves?

891
00:40:36,967 --> 00:40:39,904
Are they worried about something like this coming out about them?

892
00:40:40,004 --> 00:40:42,706
People are concerned about the slightest infraction these days.

893
00:40:42,807 --> 00:40:43,908
I have to be honest with you.

894
00:40:44,008 --> 00:40:45,876
People are afraid of being canceled.

895
00:40:45,976 --> 00:40:48,579
You said "we are not done" and that

896
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:50,548
Combs did not do this alone.

897
00:40:50,648 --> 00:40:53,250
Do you foresee that there could be other charges

898
00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:54,452
related to this case?

899
00:40:54,552 --> 00:40:55,986
I'm not taking anything off the table.

900
00:40:56,086 --> 00:40:59,390
People are thinking, oh crap, I was at that party.

901
00:40:59,490 --> 00:41:00,257
What happened?

902
00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:01,091
What did I do?

903
00:41:01,192 --> 00:41:02,493
What did others do?

904
00:41:02,593 --> 00:41:06,297
And I think that video that the Homeland Security

905
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:07,765
folks seized freaked them out.

906
00:41:07,865 --> 00:41:10,034
Yeah, it freaked a lot of people

907
00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:11,368
out for sure.

908
00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:12,670
It's the after parties.

909
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:14,171
It's the side rooms.

910
00:41:14,271 --> 00:41:18,342
It's whether there's video of those smaller gatherings

911
00:41:18,442 --> 00:41:20,845
of people who stay when the party's over,

912
00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:22,780
or who are getting together when everybody

913
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,182
else is in the larger room, that people are afraid of.

914
00:41:25,282 --> 00:41:28,652
I think that video is going to blow a lot of stuff

915
00:41:28,752 --> 00:41:31,055
open wide if it comes to light.

916
00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:36,327
If some celebrity is captured on video at one of these

917
00:41:36,427 --> 00:41:43,767
freak-offs, could that celebrity's lawyer somehow go

918
00:41:43,868 --> 00:41:50,307
to prosecutors, the judge, and say, please blur my client,

919
00:41:50,407 --> 00:41:51,709
cut them out?

920
00:41:51,809 --> 00:41:54,645
There's no reason to make them collateral damage.

921
00:41:54,745 --> 00:41:58,115
It's possible that somebody of some renown, some fame,

922
00:41:58,215 --> 00:42:00,851
a recognizable face, could be involved in some

923
00:42:00,951 --> 00:42:02,653
of these freak-off tapes.

924
00:42:02,753 --> 00:42:07,825
If they are, that person clearly can ask prosecutors

925
00:42:07,925 --> 00:42:11,829
to take some kind of action, to blur out their face,

926
00:42:11,929 --> 00:42:15,933
or to make sure that they're not recognizable if they

927
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:17,768
haven't done anything illegal.

928
00:42:17,868 --> 00:42:21,338
However, at some point, there's a balancing test

929
00:42:21,438 --> 00:42:25,576
between a celebrity's right to privacy and to the protection

930
00:42:25,676 --> 00:42:28,812
of their career and to the public's right to know

931
00:42:28,913 --> 00:42:32,750
and to the jury's right to see and deliberate

932
00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:34,351
on a just decision.

933
00:42:34,451 --> 00:42:38,422
And every time the prosecution is going to choose the public's

934
00:42:38,522 --> 00:42:40,090
right to know and the jury's right

935
00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:43,394
to do justice over a celebrity's right to remain private.

936
00:42:43,494 --> 00:42:45,229
If I was a Hollywood celebrity and I

937
00:42:45,329 --> 00:42:48,566
was at one of those parties, I'd make sure to talk to a lawyer,

938
00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:51,168
because I could easily be dragged into this.

939
00:43:00,210 --> 00:43:03,847
Does he have any goodwill attached when it comes

940
00:43:03,948 --> 00:43:05,382
to this jury that he'll have?

941
00:43:05,482 --> 00:43:11,288
In my opinion, Sean Combs enters the courtroom with a very

942
00:43:11,388 --> 00:43:13,290
complicated history.

943
00:43:18,529 --> 00:43:19,263
How you doing?

944
00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:21,165
Hey, love.

945
00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:22,833
Love, man.

946
00:43:22,933 --> 00:43:23,467
Ooh!

947
00:43:23,567 --> 00:43:24,602
I'm a savage!

948
00:43:24,702 --> 00:43:25,970
Whatever I want, I'm going to get!

949
00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:28,072
Whatever I want, I have to get!

950
00:43:28,172 --> 00:43:30,074
I think the defense is going

951
00:43:30,174 --> 00:43:35,279
to have a difficult time portraying him as a choirboy,

952
00:43:35,379 --> 00:43:38,115
or as someone who is beloved by the public.

953
00:43:38,215 --> 00:43:42,152
Sean Combs is someone who has been consistently

954
00:43:42,252 --> 00:43:46,323
in the crosshairs of law enforcement since the '90s when

955
00:43:46,423 --> 00:43:47,958
he first came into prominence.

956
00:43:48,058 --> 00:43:50,995
So he's a complicated figure entering that courtroom.

957
00:43:51,095 --> 00:43:55,299
What if, Nancy, Diddy's lawyers say in trial, look,

958
00:43:55,399 --> 00:44:01,138
the prosecution is infantilizing women by saying that they were

959
00:44:01,238 --> 00:44:05,643
at these freak-offs under duress or pressure, that people

960
00:44:05,743 --> 00:44:08,646
go to orgies, people do drugs.

961
00:44:08,746 --> 00:44:12,416
To assume that they didn't have the right

962
00:44:12,516 --> 00:44:17,655
not to go or to leave when they wanted is a huge leap.

963
00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:21,392
To that, as a prosecutor, you would say what?

964
00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:26,664
So when evidence comes out of Sean Combs beating,

965
00:44:26,764 --> 00:44:30,067
threatening, chasing victims--

966
00:44:38,175 --> 00:44:42,946
then I believe a jury will see that they were not infantilized,

967
00:44:43,047 --> 00:44:44,548
as you are describing.

968
00:44:44,648 --> 00:44:46,250
Yes, they were coerced.

969
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:47,718
Yes, they were forced.

970
00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:51,021
Yes, they were asked to change their stories.

971
00:44:51,121 --> 00:44:54,191
They're going to show that video over and over and over

972
00:44:54,291 --> 00:44:58,796
about what happens to women that won't change their stories.

973
00:44:58,896 --> 00:45:03,267
If the defense can find witnesses that participated

974
00:45:03,367 --> 00:45:06,270
in these freak-offs, who are willing to get on the stand

975
00:45:06,370 --> 00:45:10,808
and said, I did so freely, I was not coerced,

976
00:45:10,908 --> 00:45:13,343
I wanted to do these things, and they have enough

977
00:45:13,444 --> 00:45:17,748
witnesses that are compelling, that will be their best defense.

978
00:45:17,848 --> 00:45:20,884
It's not illegal to be a freak.

979
00:45:20,984 --> 00:45:24,722
It is illegal to drug people, coerce people

980
00:45:24,822 --> 00:45:26,223
into doing those things.

981
00:45:26,323 --> 00:45:28,358
We hear that these investigators have

982
00:45:28,459 --> 00:45:32,796
been contacting individuals that they have seen on this footage.

983
00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:35,399
One person, in addition to the accusers

984
00:45:35,499 --> 00:45:38,535
who have filed these civil suits, is a male sex worker.

985
00:45:41,538 --> 00:45:46,243
It's pretty stunning that Diddy's lawyer

986
00:45:46,343 --> 00:45:49,079
could subpoena some of the people who

987
00:45:49,179 --> 00:45:51,849
were at these parties, knowing they were there

988
00:45:51,949 --> 00:45:53,350
because there's video of them.

989
00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:56,253
And all of a sudden, they're forced to take the stand

990
00:45:56,353 --> 00:45:57,354
and talk about this.

991
00:45:57,454 --> 00:46:00,891
I have to imagine anyone who has participated

992
00:46:00,991 --> 00:46:04,027
is absolutely terrified right now.

993
00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:07,331
Because imagine if you started participating in these parties

994
00:46:07,431 --> 00:46:08,465
years ago.

995
00:46:08,565 --> 00:46:10,801
And now you've gone on to become a tradwife,

996
00:46:10,901 --> 00:46:12,870
or maybe you're just a stay-at-home mom.

997
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:15,005
And that is not your life anymore.

998
00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:17,241
But you might be subpoenaed, and you

999
00:46:17,341 --> 00:46:20,778
might have to testify to things that are on these videos.

1000
00:46:20,878 --> 00:46:23,046
It's absolutely horrifying.

1001
00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:26,583
But I will say it will be a really compelling trial.

1002
00:46:26,683 --> 00:46:29,353
Just wanted to give y'all a taste of what it's like being

1003
00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:32,022
in a mix, mixing a record.

1004
00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:33,457
What you got to say?

1005
00:46:33,557 --> 00:46:36,693
I just want to say thank you to everybody.

1006
00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:38,395
And I hope everybody likes the record.

1007
00:46:38,495 --> 00:46:42,032
It's definitely an honor to be on what Puff

1008
00:46:42,132 --> 00:46:43,467
is calling a "bad boy classic."

1009
00:46:43,567 --> 00:46:44,768
If I'm the defense,

1010
00:46:44,868 --> 00:46:47,671
I would also, also point out that there

1011
00:46:47,771 --> 00:46:51,942
was also a financial motive here for these women, right?

1012
00:46:52,042 --> 00:46:53,443
It's not just consent.

1013
00:46:57,981 --> 00:47:00,818
How many years ago was that confrontation?

1014
00:47:00,918 --> 00:47:02,786
Many, many years ago.

1015
00:47:02,886 --> 00:47:05,222
She didn't go to the law, police at any time.

1016
00:47:05,322 --> 00:47:08,992
She didn't go to a lawyer at any time, until recently.

1017
00:47:09,092 --> 00:47:11,161
And then, instead of going to law enforcement-- look.

1018
00:47:11,261 --> 00:47:14,531
If you're a victim of a crime, the first place you should go to

1019
00:47:14,631 --> 00:47:16,533
is the police.

1020
00:47:16,633 --> 00:47:17,835
She didn't do that.

1021
00:47:17,935 --> 00:47:20,070
She went to a lawyer and tried to get money.

1022
00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:21,471
OK?

1023
00:47:21,572 --> 00:47:23,273
And I'm just telling you what the defense would argue here.

1024
00:47:23,373 --> 00:47:25,576
And she got money.

1025
00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:29,079
All of a sudden, all these other victims came forward.

1026
00:47:29,179 --> 00:47:31,582
Everyone who was claiming to be a victim

1027
00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:33,650
was, first, looking for money.

1028
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:35,986
And that's a motive.

1029
00:47:36,086 --> 00:47:38,889
That's proper fodder for cross-examination.

1030
00:47:41,658 --> 00:47:45,128
They are going to ascribe motives to the women,

1031
00:47:45,229 --> 00:47:48,532
that they would sleep with Combs or his cohorts

1032
00:47:48,632 --> 00:47:50,868
in exchange for a career boost.

1033
00:47:50,968 --> 00:47:52,736
There was all the quid pro quo.

1034
00:47:52,836 --> 00:47:55,606
I don't think women on the jury are going to go along with that.

1035
00:47:55,706 --> 00:47:58,308
But when you combine that with threats of violence

1036
00:47:58,408 --> 00:48:02,246
and actual violence, Harvey, please.

1037
00:48:02,346 --> 00:48:05,115
Hiding women away in remote areas

1038
00:48:05,215 --> 00:48:07,551
so their bruises could heal?

1039
00:48:07,651 --> 00:48:08,919
They're gonna hear that.

1040
00:48:09,019 --> 00:48:10,220
The jury's gonna hear that.

1041
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,256
We should want, as a society,

1042
00:48:12,356 --> 00:48:15,325
to question the validity of an allegation.

1043
00:48:15,425 --> 00:48:17,160
It doesn't mean smearing somebody.

1044
00:48:17,261 --> 00:48:18,996
It simply means, how come you never said

1045
00:48:19,096 --> 00:48:20,130
this to anyone for 20 years?

1046
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:21,031
What's up, bro?

1047
00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:21,932
How you doing?

1048
00:48:22,032 --> 00:48:22,933
Good, man.

1049
00:48:23,033 --> 00:48:24,234
Happy Wednesday to you, bro.

1050
00:48:24,334 --> 00:48:25,802
Happy Wednesday, bro. MAN: Thank you, man.

1051
00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:27,271
I have interviewed a lot

1052
00:48:27,371 --> 00:48:28,705
of people for this documentary.

1053
00:48:28,805 --> 00:48:33,644
And a lot of them have said, game over, after they

1054
00:48:33,744 --> 00:48:35,312
saw the Cassie video.

1055
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:41,385
Does this compel you to put him on the stand and explain it?

1056
00:48:41,485 --> 00:48:45,856
I don't know that I could keep him off the stand.

1057
00:48:45,956 --> 00:48:49,559
I think he is very eager to tell his story.

1058
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:52,229
And I think he will tell every part of his story,

1059
00:48:52,329 --> 00:48:54,498
including what you see on the video.

1060
00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:57,834
So I expect it's gonna be explained by the both of us.

1061
00:48:57,935 --> 00:49:00,270
The thing that's missing from this story

1062
00:49:00,370 --> 00:49:03,407
is the overall context of the entire situation.

1063
00:49:03,507 --> 00:49:06,376
And when that context is appreciated, what people are

1064
00:49:06,476 --> 00:49:10,247
gonna see, clearly, this was a long-term,

1065
00:49:10,347 --> 00:49:14,918
loving, intense relationship that had mutual infidelities.

1066
00:49:15,018 --> 00:49:18,088
And that is the reason why you see some

1067
00:49:18,188 --> 00:49:19,990
of what you see on the video.

1068
00:49:20,090 --> 00:49:23,894
It's kind of breathtaking that what you're telling

1069
00:49:23,994 --> 00:49:27,164
me is that Diddy is gonna take the stand.

1070
00:49:27,264 --> 00:49:31,301
And he will be cross-examined about this video,

1071
00:49:31,401 --> 00:49:34,438
about the violence in the video, about the freak-offs,

1072
00:49:34,538 --> 00:49:40,544
about allegedly blowing up a car, all of those things.

1073
00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:41,945
That feels kind of dicey.

1074
00:49:42,045 --> 00:49:44,548
He has his story.

1075
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:48,352
And he has a story that I think only he can tell in the way

1076
00:49:48,452 --> 00:49:50,687
he can tell it, in real time.

1077
00:49:50,787 --> 00:49:52,055
And it's a human story.

1078
00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:55,125
It's a story of love.

1079
00:49:55,225 --> 00:49:56,860
It's a story of hurt.

1080
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,462
It's a story of heartbreak.

1081
00:49:58,562 --> 00:50:00,797
I mean, when he describes that relationship,

1082
00:50:00,897 --> 00:50:04,468
the word he uses more than any other word is "heartbreak."

1083
00:50:04,568 --> 00:50:05,602
He was heartbroken.

1084
00:50:05,702 --> 00:50:06,536
She was heartbroken.

1085
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,441
What's up, Puff?

1086
00:50:11,541 --> 00:50:13,977
Are you doing all right, man?

1087
00:50:14,077 --> 00:50:16,513
Are you OK?

1088
00:50:16,613 --> 00:50:17,848
Are you all right, man?

1089
00:50:17,948 --> 00:50:22,819
What kind of a jury does Sean Combs want?

1090
00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:25,822
Men, women, white, Black?

1091
00:50:25,922 --> 00:50:28,225
Is it more complicated than that?

1092
00:50:28,325 --> 00:50:32,929
The best jury for Sean Combs is

1093
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:39,536
a very diverse jury and perhaps a jury that is primarily male.

1094
00:50:39,636 --> 00:50:45,742
He, 100%, wants Black people on the jury, people that understand

1095
00:50:45,842 --> 00:50:50,347
where he comes from and the hard work and dedication that he had

1096
00:50:50,447 --> 00:50:53,083
to show to rise to the level of prominence

1097
00:50:53,183 --> 00:50:54,684
where he currently is.

1098
00:50:54,785 --> 00:51:02,125
He wants people that respond to celebrity success, fame, power.

1099
00:51:07,297 --> 00:51:09,299
I find, as a former sex crimes

1100
00:51:09,399 --> 00:51:11,368
prosecutor and someone who's tried these cases,

1101
00:51:11,468 --> 00:51:14,938
sometimes women are the harshest critic of women

1102
00:51:15,038 --> 00:51:20,544
and the most severe judge of the credibility of other women

1103
00:51:20,644 --> 00:51:21,645
making accusations.

1104
00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:28,251
Honestly, older Black women from Brooklyn,

1105
00:51:28,351 --> 00:51:31,621
where I'm from, where he's from, they're street smart.

1106
00:51:31,721 --> 00:51:34,191
You want street smart jurors, is what you want here.

1107
00:51:34,291 --> 00:51:35,459
What kind of jury do you want?

1108
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:38,929
I want people who've gone out and had

1109
00:51:39,029 --> 00:51:42,632
a life with romance and love and loss

1110
00:51:42,732 --> 00:51:45,602
and cheating and heartbreak on their own.

1111
00:51:45,702 --> 00:51:50,307
Because that is the person who's gonna see this for what it is.

1112
00:51:50,407 --> 00:51:53,076
And this is all about those things.

1113
00:51:57,447 --> 00:51:58,515
You mentioned, earlier,

1114
00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:00,117
about a racial component here.

1115
00:52:00,217 --> 00:52:01,585
Do you want Black people on this jury?

1116
00:52:01,685 --> 00:52:06,456
I've never been one to do that, when picking a jury.

1117
00:52:06,556 --> 00:52:10,026
I want people who are sensitive to the issues that I think

1118
00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:10,894
are important.

1119
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:16,800
Would you be open to a plea bargain?

1120
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:18,835
Well, it's not up to me.

1121
00:52:18,935 --> 00:52:20,103
It's up to Mr. Combs.

1122
00:52:20,203 --> 00:52:21,838
And I don't see it happening.

1123
00:52:21,938 --> 00:52:23,006
Why?

1124
00:52:23,106 --> 00:52:25,075
Because he believes he's innocent.

1125
00:52:25,175 --> 00:52:26,643
He believes he's innocent.

1126
00:52:26,743 --> 00:52:32,349
And what's more, he believes that he needs to stand up, not

1127
00:52:32,449 --> 00:52:36,219
just for himself, for his family and for everybody

1128
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:39,523
who's been targeted by the federal government.

1129
00:52:39,623 --> 00:52:42,792
He feels an obligation to those people to say, you know what?

1130
00:52:42,893 --> 00:52:44,361
Maybe I can break the model.

1131
00:52:44,461 --> 00:52:48,765
Maybe I can show the world that a Black man can win, you know,

1132
00:52:48,865 --> 00:52:50,133
in federal court.

1133
00:52:50,233 --> 00:52:52,702
And I think he probably is the only person

1134
00:52:52,802 --> 00:52:56,907
I know of who might be able to actually accomplish that.

1135
00:52:57,007 --> 00:52:58,408
No, Diddy.

1136
00:52:58,508 --> 00:53:00,377
That's really Diddy, bro.

1137
00:53:00,477 --> 00:53:02,812
Diddy was denied bail.

1138
00:53:02,913 --> 00:53:05,148
This trial could be a year out.

1139
00:53:05,248 --> 00:53:12,856
So this man went from a person of incredible wealth and means--

1140
00:53:12,956 --> 00:53:14,691
Sean, to the right, up top!

1141
00:53:14,791 --> 00:53:16,626
Sean, to the right!

1142
00:53:16,726 --> 00:53:21,998
-to somebody who is now in a very small

1143
00:53:22,098 --> 00:53:25,001
jail cell, mostly in isolation.

1144
00:53:25,101 --> 00:53:27,837
That must be beyond jarring.

1145
00:53:27,938 --> 00:53:31,641
It has to be pretty eye-opening to wake up

1146
00:53:31,741 --> 00:53:35,412
in a cell, when you were living on Star Island,

1147
00:53:35,512 --> 00:53:39,382
one of the most exclusive places in the world to live.

1148
00:53:39,482 --> 00:53:43,153
But, again, I think it goes back to that Cassie video

1149
00:53:43,253 --> 00:53:44,554
in the hotel.

1150
00:53:44,654 --> 00:53:46,957
Anyone who has seen that video thinks, to themself,

1151
00:53:47,057 --> 00:53:50,093
I'm glad Diddy is sitting there, eating his bologna

1152
00:53:50,193 --> 00:53:52,529
sandwich on his very hard cot.

1153
00:53:52,629 --> 00:53:54,931
What's his state of mind right now?

1154
00:53:55,031 --> 00:53:58,134
His state of mind is actually remarkably positive.

1155
00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:00,770
I spend several hours with him every day.

1156
00:54:00,870 --> 00:54:04,474
I'm gonna leave you and go see him now.

1157
00:54:04,574 --> 00:54:06,943
And his resolve is strong.

1158
00:54:07,043 --> 00:54:08,111
He's engaged.

1159
00:54:08,211 --> 00:54:09,579
He's focused on his defense.

1160
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:11,281
And we see him every day.

1161
00:54:11,381 --> 00:54:14,985
And he is-- come to terms with the fact

1162
00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:17,153
that this is where he is for now.

1163
00:54:17,254 --> 00:54:20,190
We are trying to get this matter to trial as soon as possible.

1164
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:28,698
Whether he skates on federal charges or not,

1165
00:54:28,798 --> 00:54:31,935
is it game over for him, in terms of his career,

1166
00:54:32,035 --> 00:54:33,436
because of the Cassie video?

1167
00:54:33,536 --> 00:54:35,639
There's no returning from this.

1168
00:54:35,739 --> 00:54:38,041
I mean, how can you look at that video and then, you know,

1169
00:54:38,141 --> 00:54:42,279
have anybody take you seriously or want to sit across a table

1170
00:54:42,379 --> 00:54:43,480
at the boardroom?

1171
00:54:43,580 --> 00:54:45,915
Even just that video is enough.

1172
00:54:46,016 --> 00:54:47,751
Nothing else may materialize.

1173
00:54:47,851 --> 00:54:50,353
He may be found not guilty for anything,

1174
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,289
moving forward, past the video, but I

1175
00:54:52,389 --> 00:54:55,025
think his reputation is over.

1176
00:54:55,125 --> 00:54:56,726
I think his career is over.

1177
00:54:56,826 --> 00:55:00,530
And America loves a good comeback story.

1178
00:55:00,630 --> 00:55:02,899
I think this may be the exception to that rule.

1179
00:55:02,999 --> 00:55:05,035
You know, he just listened to every record.

1180
00:55:05,135 --> 00:55:08,638
He gave me his input on what could make the records that he

1181
00:55:08,738 --> 00:55:11,174
did comment on all the way classic

1182
00:55:11,274 --> 00:55:12,776
and just reach they full potential.

1183
00:55:12,876 --> 00:55:16,479
Nobody's ever gonna be able to take it away from Puff, that he

1184
00:55:16,579 --> 00:55:19,649
had a hand and was incredibly important in the career

1185
00:55:19,749 --> 00:55:21,451
of so many important artists.

1186
00:55:21,551 --> 00:55:23,653
As I lay down laws like I lay carpet

1187
00:55:23,753 --> 00:55:25,722
Stop it, if you think you're gonna make a profit

1188
00:55:25,822 --> 00:55:26,956
[PUFF DADDY, "DO YOU LIKE IT, DO YOU WANT

1189
00:55:27,057 --> 00:55:27,891
IT"] When you got a lot of cars

1190
00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:28,892
Don't even drive no more

1191
00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:30,126
When you expected to win

1192
00:55:30,226 --> 00:55:31,928
They ain't surprised no more.

1193
00:55:36,766 --> 00:55:38,668
Yo, what you know about goin' out

1194
00:55:38,768 --> 00:55:41,271
Head west, red Lex, TVs all up in the headrest?

1195
00:55:41,371 --> 00:55:45,442
I don't know what they want from me

1196
00:55:45,542 --> 00:55:48,044
It's like the more money we come across

1197
00:55:48,144 --> 00:55:49,846
The more problem we see

1198
00:55:49,946 --> 00:55:52,882
The artistic contribution of so many of these artists that he

1199
00:55:52,982 --> 00:55:54,751
brought to the forefront was so gigantic

1200
00:55:54,851 --> 00:55:56,553
that it's kind of hard to imagine

1201
00:55:56,653 --> 00:55:58,888
anyone being able to take that away from him.

1202
00:55:58,988 --> 00:56:01,458
But at the same time, I mean, we've, kind of, seen

1203
00:56:01,558 --> 00:56:02,726
it with Russell Simmons.

1204
00:56:02,826 --> 00:56:04,194
We've certainly seen it with R. Kelly.

1205
00:56:04,294 --> 00:56:06,496
R. Kelly is spending more time in prison,

1206
00:56:06,596 --> 00:56:08,331
after being sentenced federally for child

1207
00:56:08,431 --> 00:56:10,834
pornography and enticement of minors for sex.

1208
00:56:10,934 --> 00:56:12,969
As time goes by and people become

1209
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:15,939
uncomfortable with celebrating your contributions,

1210
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:18,308
it's just gonna be more and more difficult

1211
00:56:18,408 --> 00:56:20,110
for people to have a conversation about Diddy

1212
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,512
without bringing up all of this negative shit as well.

1213
00:56:22,612 --> 00:56:23,947
It's an asterisk.

1214
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:26,216
It doesn't negate what you've been able to achieve.

1215
00:56:26,316 --> 00:56:27,650
Far be it for me to ever act like--

1216
00:56:27,751 --> 00:56:29,652
I mean, I danced to quite a lot of those songs.

1217
00:56:29,753 --> 00:56:30,787
I'm not gonna be a hypocrite.

1218
00:56:30,887 --> 00:56:32,255
Nothing about me is a hypocrite.

1219
00:56:32,355 --> 00:56:33,957
Sean!

1220
00:56:38,294 --> 00:56:40,764
He is an icon.

1221
00:56:40,864 --> 00:56:43,500
He has been an icon all these years.

1222
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,902
And he is an icon with an asterisk now.

1223
00:56:46,002 --> 00:56:51,341
You can be a phenomenal musician and a monster.

1224
00:56:51,441 --> 00:56:53,476
I don't care about his legacy.

1225
00:56:53,576 --> 00:56:56,012
I don't give a flying fig about his legacy.

1226
00:56:56,112 --> 00:57:01,217
His legacy is as a sex abuser with probably

1227
00:57:01,317 --> 00:57:04,154
hundreds, if not more, victims.

1228
00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:05,588
That's his legacy.

1229
00:57:05,688 --> 00:57:08,391
Don't ask me any more about his Hollywood legacy.

1230
00:57:08,491 --> 00:57:09,392
I don't care.

1231
00:57:09,492 --> 00:57:10,927
Now you gonna say one time.

1232
00:57:11,027 --> 00:57:11,728
Yeah!

1233
00:57:11,828 --> 00:57:13,263
Now you gonna say one time.

1234
00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:14,230
Yeah!

1235
00:57:14,330 --> 00:57:16,599
Now you gonna say it.

1236
00:57:16,699 --> 00:57:18,301
We're talking about a guy that

1237
00:57:18,401 --> 00:57:21,371
did a hell of a lot for the Black culture, for the culture,

1238
00:57:21,471 --> 00:57:22,505
in general.

1239
00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:23,907
We not gonna label any color on it.

1240
00:57:24,007 --> 00:57:27,944
We gon' say, for the culture, right?

1241
00:57:28,044 --> 00:57:33,082
Black excellence, tequila made by a Black man.

1242
00:57:34,617 --> 00:57:36,186
Give everybody jobs, schools.

1243
00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:41,724
It was a dream of mine to come back to my neighborhood

1244
00:57:41,825 --> 00:57:43,326
and open up a school in Harlem.

1245
00:57:43,426 --> 00:57:48,898
He really meant something to Black people.

1246
00:57:48,998 --> 00:57:52,969
He was an inspirational figure, where people wanted to aspire

1247
00:57:53,069 --> 00:57:56,406
to be like him, to have that degree of success,

1248
00:57:56,506 --> 00:57:59,676
to be able to buy a giant compound

1249
00:57:59,776 --> 00:58:03,146
and estate in the Hamptons and throw white parties every year

1250
00:58:03,246 --> 00:58:07,484
and invite every single A-list celebrity and have your own jet.

1251
00:58:07,584 --> 00:58:10,553
All black, everything.

1252
00:58:10,653 --> 00:58:13,890
All-Black crew, the greatest pilots in the world.

1253
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:17,393
I mean, look, it's the uber American dream, to be

1254
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:18,895
able to do something like that.

1255
00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:21,865
So he was a giant, huge role model for a lot of people.

1256
00:58:21,965 --> 00:58:24,400
And now he's fallen from that perch.

1257
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:25,335
You build him up.

1258
00:58:25,435 --> 00:58:26,736
You tear him down.

1259
00:58:26,836 --> 00:58:31,474
But I think, sadly, he gave folks the ammunition

1260
00:58:31,574 --> 00:58:34,344
to be able to tear him down.

1261
00:58:34,444 --> 00:58:36,613
Hello, hello, hello, hello

1262
00:58:36,713 --> 00:58:39,148
Good morning, good morning, morning

1263
00:58:39,249 --> 00:58:41,150
Hello, hello, hello

1264
00:58:41,251 --> 00:58:42,352
Good evening

1265
00:58:42,452 --> 00:58:46,122
Is Diddy concerned about his legacy,

1266
00:58:46,222 --> 00:58:48,458
given everything that's come out already,

1267
00:58:48,558 --> 00:58:50,026
even if he's found not guilty?

1268
00:58:52,495 --> 00:58:54,097
That's a very good question.

1269
00:58:54,197 --> 00:58:57,567
And, honestly, I haven't asked him that.

1270
00:58:57,667 --> 00:59:01,271
I'm gonna venture an answer.

1271
00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:04,807
I think he views his legacy as being a fighter.

1272
00:59:04,908 --> 00:59:06,943
I think he views his legacy as someone

1273
00:59:07,043 --> 00:59:09,178
who has worked very, very hard to get

1274
00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:11,114
everything that he earned.

1275
00:59:11,214 --> 00:59:15,985
And if he can work hard and earn a not guilty verdict in the eyes

1276
00:59:16,085 --> 00:59:17,687
of 12 New Yorkers, I think that would

1277
00:59:17,787 --> 00:59:19,322
be consistent with his legacy.