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[reporter] On Capitol Hill today,
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{\an8}a bipartisan call for more
government transparency on UFOs,
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{\an8}or as the military calls them,
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, UAPs.
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{\an8}The objects have been detected
essentially where all operations,
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{\an8}Navy operations are being
conducted across the world.
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{\an8}The technology
that we faced was far superior
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{\an8}than anything we have currently
or we're gonna have in the next 20 years.
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{\an8}Unidentified aerial phenomena
are a potential national security threat
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{\an8}and they need to be treated that way.
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[man] United States government
has gathered a great deal of information
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about UAPs over many decades,
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but has refused to share it
with the American people.
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That is wrong, and additionally,
it breeds mistrust.
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I spent 11 years in the US Navy
as a fighter pilot.
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For 18 years,
I flew fighters for the US Navy.
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I spent 20 years working
in the US intelligence community.
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I served as the fourth
Director of National Intelligence.
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I spent 25 years
as a senior official with the CIA.
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I retired from the Navy as a one-star
admiral after 32 years of service.
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I worked on highly classified UAP programs
for the government as a senior scientist.
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I spent 32 years in and out
of government in national security.
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I've worked 28 years as an astrophysicist
on highly classified UAP programs
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for the United States government
and for the defense industry.
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I'm a professor
in the department of pathology
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at Stanford University School of Medicine.
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And for the last ten years or so,
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I've been working
with the Department of Defense
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and people in the CIA on the UAP topic.
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I've come to the conclusion that
we are not only not alone in the universe,
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but we have been discovered
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by an intelligence
from some other part of the universe.
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There's evidence we are not alone.
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Humanity is not the only
intelligent species in the universe.
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We're not alone in the universe.
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I wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest
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there are no other
forms of life out there.
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Humanity is not the only intelligence
in the universe.
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UAPs are real.
They're here and they're not human.
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There are other intelligences
that have highly advanced exotic craft
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interacting with the human population.
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They are here. This is real.
It's happening. It's happening now.
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Non-human intelligence exists.
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It's been interacting with humanity
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and it's been doing so
on this planet for a long time.
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We are not the only intelligent
life form in the universe.
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There's something here on the planet
with us that is intelligent
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and more intelligent than us.
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This is the biggest discovery
in human history.
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My name is Lue Elizondo.
In 2009, my life changed forever.
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{\an8}That's when I was recruited into
a highly sensitive government program
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that investigated
Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, UAP,
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also commonly known as UFOs.
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My work for the US government goes back
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almost 30 years
to when I joined the US Army.
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From there, I had the good fortune
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of being recruited into various programs
within military intelligence.
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During my career, I served my country
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around the world,
managing and directing missions,
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including counter-narcotics,
counter-espionage,
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counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency.
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And it was later in my career
that I actually began running
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special access programs
for the US government,
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and in some cases reported
directly to the White House
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and the National Security Council.
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{\an8}My name is Jay Stratton,
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{\an8}and for over 16 years
on behalf of the US government,
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{\an8}I worked as a senior intelligence official
on the UAP topic.
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I joined the Army at the age of 17
and left for a career
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in military intelligence
with eight combat deployments,
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including Iraq and Afghanistan.
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After the Army,
I joined Naval Intelligence,
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and then I transitioned
to the Defense Intelligence Agency,
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where I was the chief
of air and space warfare
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inside of the Defense Warning office.
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It was at the DIA that my colleagues
and I started getting reports
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of what are now called UAP.
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{\an8}We went all over the government,
pentagon, every intelligence agency,
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anywhere we could think to try to find
the UAP program, assuming there was one.
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As far as we could tell,
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no one in the United States government
had a UAP program,
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so my colleagues and I
began a new program,
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which ultimately became AATIP.
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{\an8}The Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program, AATIP.
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[Jay] The funding
for this effort was sponsored by
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then Senate majority leader
Senator Harry Reid.
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And together myself,
Jay Stratton and our team
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for nearly a decade investigated
UAP incidents around the world.
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Based on hard evidence and data,
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we learned that UAPs
present serious national security concerns
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and a potential existential threat.
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Simply put, transmedium crafts,
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vehicles that have the capability
to operate in space, air,
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and water, and seemingly defy
all that humanity knows about physics
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have been operating with complete impunity
around the world since at least the 1940s.
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At AATIP, we had access
to some of the most sensitive videos
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in the Department of Defense inventory.
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If you could be in my shoes and see what
I've seen, and folks like Jay Stratton,
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there would be zero shadow of a doubt
that these things are real
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and they are not made by humans.
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The things that I've seen,
the clearest videos,
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the best evidence that we have
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that these are non-human intelligence
remain classified.
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{\an8}The classified data that we had access to
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{\an8}when we joined the program
was indisputable.
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There's 80 years of this data
that the public isn't even aware of.
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I have seen with my own eyes
non-human craft and non-human beings.
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{\an8}For 23 years and ten months,
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{\an8}I was in the United States Air Force
as an A-10 pilot.
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{\an8}And while I was at NORAD,
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I witnessed an event
that I will remember forever.
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There was a unknown object
we were tracking on radars.
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And the commander says,
"I want that target."
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That means intercept it.
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Fighters all the way down
the eastern seaboard were scrambled,
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and none of the fighters were successful
in intercepting or running it down.
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{\an8}We were unable to maintain
air sovereignty over North America.
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{\an8}On November 14th, 2004,
we were onboard the USS Nimitz,
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{\an8}which is a nuclear aircraft carrier.
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I was the most senior person
in the squadron flying.
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I had launched off Nimitz to do
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an air defense exercise
off the coast of San Diego, California.
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And I ended up chasing a UAP
known as the Tic Tac UAP.
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It was about 40 feet long
and just sitting there in space.
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You can see it start to accelerate.
And as it gets in front of us, it's gone.
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This thing was doing 32,000 miles an hour,
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so obviously that technology
is not the United States.
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{\an8}[Alex Dietrich] As we were
watching this Tic Tac object
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maneuver in this bizarre way,
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it was obvious
that it wasn't conventional.
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{\an8}This was defying those laws of physics,
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{\an8}laws of gravity
that as pilots we live and die by.
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We literally had these things
stalking Navy vessels on deployment.
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The frequency in which UAP were
being reported to us was increasing.
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{\an8}They were ubiquitous.
We were seeing them nearly daily.
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[man] My gosh, there's a whole
fleet of 'em. Look on the SA!
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And then we actually almost
had a midair with one of these objects.
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This now became a safety issue.
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Two aircraft from my squadron were
flying in close proximity to each other
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in section formation,
so about 150 feet apart or so.
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One of these objects went right
in between those two aircraft,
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right past the lead aircraft.
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The lead aircraft
was visually able to see the object,
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and he simply described it as a dark gray
or a black cube inside of a clear sphere.
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To be clear,
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non-human intelligence
has been actively conducting
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ISR, Intelligence,
Surveillance and Reconnaissance
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of some of our most sensitive
US military facilities and nuclear sites.
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They have both deactivated
and activated nuclear weapons
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with both the United States and Russia.
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The nuclear weapons that were
activated in Russia were pointed at us,
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and from that perspective,
the stakes really could not be any higher.
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This is an emerging
and disruptive threat for the US
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and truly a national security concern.
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By the way, this isn't just
happening here in the US.
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It's happening all over the world
and occurring with greater frequency.
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[Christopher Mellon]
When I met Lue Elizondo in the Pentagon,
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he made me aware not only
that this phenomenon was real,
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but it was an ongoing
persistent phenomenon.
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{\an8}The Secretary of Defense didn't know,
the Congress didn't know,
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{\an8}senior policymakers didn't know,
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{\an8}and nobody was doing anything
about it other than Lue
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and a handful of colleagues.
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I was shocked and I was stunned,
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and immediately was concerned about
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intelligence failures
that have occurred in the past
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and the disasters that have ensued,
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and determined immediately
to do whatever I could to help get Lue
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{\an8}to the Secretary of Defense
to move that information forward.
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{\an8}Each time Jay and I and others tried
to raise the alarm bells
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and bring this issue
up to the appropriate level,
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we were met with fierce resistance.
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The stigma alone
and the taboo of the topic,
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the historical association of "UFOs"
was something that
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for most people in leadership positions
was too big of a pill to swallow.
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In fact, the stigma was so strong
that people either believed, A,
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the topic wasn't real, or B,
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the stigma was going to somehow
taint or tarnish their career,
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so they didn't want to touch it.
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{\an8}We couldn't get the leadership
in the Pentagon
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{\an8}to look at the actual scientific data
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that showed that there is
a strong national security threat.
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They were more worried about
the impact on their reputation
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than they were about
the safety of the nation.
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[Jay] On top of that,
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we were shocked to find we were getting
pushback from people in the Pentagon
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based on their religious beliefs.
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There really were religious fundamentalist
extremists with in the Pentagon
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that had a severe adversity to this topic.
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These are national security experts,
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senior members of the national
intelligence community
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who are putting their religion
above national security.
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A senior DOD official actually stopped me
in the hallways in the Pentagon
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and told me
that we were doing the devil's work.
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I had to deal with people who were
senior to me who were telling me
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in their world that these are demons,
and we are poking demons
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and messing in Satan's world
and all these other things.
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I was like, "I can't believe
this is coming out of your mouth."
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I'm briefing about an advanced
aerospace vehicle that has been detected
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on multiple sensors
that's absolutely there,
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and you're telling me
that you think these are demons
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and we shouldn't
look at them and study them.
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My mind was blown.
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[Jay] While we were trying
to overcome all of these hurdles,
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we discovered another deeply hidden
and much larger UAP program.
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This program was so sensitive
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that it was withheld from
the Secretary of Defense, Congress,
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and even
the President of the United States.
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This program is referred to as
"The Legacy Program."
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This program had been capturing,
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retrieving and reverse engineering UAPs
since at least 1947.
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On numerous occasions,
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these retrievals included
the bodies of non-humans,
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some sort of intelligence,
intelligent being that is not human.
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When Jay and I began knocking on doors
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and trying to get access
into the Legacy Program,
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there was this almost
like an immune response
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by the Legacy Program,
and antibodies came out of everywhere
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to try to shut us down.
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{\an8}We began communicating with scientists
involved in the Legacy Program,
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{\an8}but their leaders when they learned
of this, shut it down aggressively.
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Not only were we met with
fierce resistance and stonewalling,
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we actually had people angry at us that
we're even asking the question itself,
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as in, you know, what right do we have
to inquire about the Legacy Program,
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despite the fact we were running AATIP.
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Put yourself in my shoes.
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I'm conducting investigations
of ongoing UAP activity
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and there's this Legacy Program
that has at least 80 years of information
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that could help us
better understand this problem
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and protect national security,
and they refuse to give it to us.
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When it became clear that
we couldn't work through the system,
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I knew from experience having worked
with the Senate Armed Services Committee,
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what it takes to move this oil tanker.
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Think about this immense,
immense ship that has massive inertia,
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and you're trying
to get it to change course.
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When it comes
to the Department of Defense,
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only Congress
has the wherewithal to do that.
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And the way to get Congress's attention
is first and foremost through the press.
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I knew we had to get the press engaged
to help get the Hill engaged,
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to then get back to changing
the Defense Department
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to study this problem
to figure out is there a threat?
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Where are these things coming from
and how do they work?
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[Jay] As government employees,
we're not allowed to talk to the media,
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so Lue and I strategized
on how to overcome this hurdle.
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There were really only two choices.
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The first choice was
make peace with silence
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and sit on
what is humanity's greatest secret,
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all the while keeping
Americans in the dark.
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Or two, I could resign
my position in protest
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and fulfill my obligations
to the American people
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by telling the truth
about what I know about UAP.
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There was this difficult moment
where Lue had to decide,
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"Do I throw in the towel?
Do we give up on this?"
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"Do we ignore this?"
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Or does he fall on his sword?
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I couldn't, nor would I ever
reveal classified information,
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but I knew that if I could say
just enough at the unclassified level
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to make the media aware
and our government officials aware
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of the reality of the UAP topic,
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then Jay hopefully would be able to use
that momentum to go ahead and achieve
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the goals that we set out
to achieve inside the government.
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[Mellon] And we had
a number of difficult conversations
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because Lue is giving up
a very promising career.
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{\an8}He loved what he was doing.
He was very good at what he was doing.
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It's such a profound life decision for Lue
to make for himself and his family.
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During one of my routine
hellish commutes back home,
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{\an8}as I was stuck in traffic,
looking in front of me and behind me
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{\an8}and seeing thousands of cars,
I had this profound sense of isolation,
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a feeling I had
never felt before in my life,
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a feeling that I was completely alone.
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I might as well have been living
on the dark side of the moon.
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None of these people around me,
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in fact, no one anywhere had any idea
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of what was actually
going on around them.
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Not a clue.
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I thought to myself, these individuals
deserve to know the truth,
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the mere fact that we're
not alone in the universe.
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How can any one organization,
institution, religion, or government
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control that
or censor that or gatekeep that?
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No one has the right
to keep fundamental truths
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away from the American people
and humanity.
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{\an8}[reporter] CNN has learned the Pentagon
had a secretive program to research UFOs.
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{\an8}The existence of a secret government
program to investigate UFO sightings.
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{\an8}A recent report by the New York Times
unveiled the existence of a real life
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X-Files department,
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their secret government program
to investigate mysterious flying objects.
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{\an8}This seems potentially like
one of the biggest stories of my lifetime.
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{\an8}These aircraft, we'll call 'em aircraft,
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{\an8}are displaying characteristics
that are not currently
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{\an8}within the US inventory
nor in any foreign inventory.
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[man] Look at that thing, dude. My gosh.
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{\an8}This is a very serious
national security issue.
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{\an8}Something is in our skies.
It has been there for quite some time.
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{\an8}[man] There's a whole fleet of 'em.
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{\an8}You have objects that are doing things,
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{\an8}maneuvering in ways
without any obvious sign of propulsion.
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{\an8}My submission is that
what we are looking at is truly,
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by definition, exotic technologies,
beyond next generation technologies.
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{\an8}And the bureaucracy and the Department
of Defense really limited our ability
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{\an8}to keep leadership informed
of what we were seeing.
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As soon as the media
started paying attention,
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Congress started paying attention,
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and I started getting calls
from the Hill for briefings.
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{\an8}Senators received a classified briefing
about UFOs at the Pentagon.
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[reporter] Senator Mark Warner,
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the vice chair
of the Intelligence Committee said,
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"Look, I think it's important that the
military is taking this more seriously now
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than they did in the past."
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[Mellon] Senator Rubio and Warner,
to their great credit,
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put national security above
their own personal political careers
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and took the risk of engaging
publicly on this issue.
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{\an8}When they began to engage,
the Defense Department had to admit
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{\an8}to the world that this was real
and it was happening,
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{\an8}and that immediately took the entire
credibility of the issue up a huge notch.
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{\an8}The US Navy has finally acknowledged
that videos appearing to show UFOs flying
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{\an8}through the air are real.
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{\an8}[reporter] Commander David Fravor
describing it like a 40 foot long Tic Tac.
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{\an8}The ability to hover over the water
and then start a vertical climb
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{\an8}from basically zero
up towards about 12,000 feet
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{\an8}and then accelerate
in less than two seconds
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{\an8}and disappear is something
I had never seen in my life.
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{\an8}We've had repeated instances of something
operating in the airspace
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{\an8}over restricted nuclear facilities,
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{\an8}and it's not ours
and we don't know whose it is.
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{\an8}That alone, just that statement alone,
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{\an8}deserves inquiry,
deserves attention, deserves focus.
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{\an8}If you have objects
in the sky that you cannot identify,
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{\an8}that's a problem because
it could be China, it could be Russia,
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{\an8}it could be any adversary.
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{\an8}Well, any unexplained phenomenon
could pose a national security threat.
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{\an8}That's the way
you have to treat those things.
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{\an8}There's something violating our airspace.
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{\an8}There's something fouling arranges
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{\an8}that even the people we've tasked in
the executive branch to understand this
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cannot provide an explanation,
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so I would say in addition
to the national security implications,
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this has implications for basic trust
and confidence in the American government.
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{\an8}We don't know
the origin of the phenomenon,
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{\an8}and we're gonna try
to get to the bottom of it
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{\an8}because for national defense purposes,
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{\an8}some of these have been
in areas that we train.
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These have been in areas where
we've got some of our best equipment,
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and yet our best equipment
has not been able to tag these things.
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We've not been able
to go in and catch them.
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{\an8}No matter what they are,
they're invading our airspace
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{\an8}and we don't know exactly
why they're doing it,
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{\an8}what their intent is
and what their capabilities are.
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In addition
to the national security concerns,
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this violation
of all nations' sovereign airspace
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presents a safety of flight concern
for all military and civilian aviation.
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And the even scarier thing is that
the Federal Aviation Administration
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stopped using radar
to track our air travel.
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They only track aircraft,
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predominantly commercial and civilian,
that are squawking,
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so they're actually putting
a signal into the system saying,
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"Here's where I am."
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The only way they know the UAP are there
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is if the pilot sees something
and says something.
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The fact that the FAA is not tracking UAP
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is putting American lives
at risk every day.
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I'm Brett Feddersen.
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{\an8}I served as the director of aviation
security on the National Security Council
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{\an8}and as the acting director for the
Federal Aviation Administration's
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National Security Programs Office.
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I can say through my experience
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that we are absolutely
not alone in this universe.
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The biggest thing that concerns me with
UAPs is the national security concern.
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It's the unknown.
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It's the fact that this technology
does stuff that we can't do.
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And if we can't figure out
what it is or what it wants,
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uh, or what it's being used for,
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that keeps me up at night and the idea
that we're behind the power curve.
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We want to be able to maintain the
cutting edge technology and the advantage
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here in the United States
so that we can sleep comfortably at night
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and feel the safety of what
the American government has provided.
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There's sort of, I think,
four hypotheses out there,
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one of which is that this is
foreign adversary technology
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that we simply don't understand
or weren't aware of,
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and that would amount to probably
the biggest intelligence failure
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in modern American history.
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The second of which is that this is
a robust counter-intelligence program
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to cover up for a US
government effort that has fallen,
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kind of, away
from congressional oversight.
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A third hypothesis is obviously
that this is, uh, interdimensional
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or extra-terrestrial.
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The fourth could be
a combination of the previous three.
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Some of the biggest strategic
blunders in human history,
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the foundation of those blunders
were a lack of imagination.
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The belief that an adversary
or whoever could not do something
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because it had never been done before.
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The US thought it was safe
for those ships in Pearl Harbor
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because we didn't think
the Japanese could get there,
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much less have torpedoes
that could navigate such a narrow straight
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and hit these ships until they did.
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We never thought in our wildest dreams
that terrorists would strike us
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in the homeland by training
for a year to become pilots
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and then hijacking commercial aircraft
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and crashing them into buildings,
and they did.
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The thing that keeps me up at night,
something in the human psyche that says,
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I don't have time or energy
to sort of prepare for the unforeseen
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or what I've never seen done before,
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and, um, you know,
that leads to strategic surprise
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and sometimes strategic surprises
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change the course of human history.
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[Jay] There was
one classified briefing
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that I gave to members
of the House and Senate,
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where I took military pilots to tell them
the story of their encounters with UAP.
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Those stories left them so rattled
that they had trouble sleeping that night.
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[Lue] The United States' most
trusted military servicemen and women
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and irrefutable data from our
intelligence collection systems
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have been observing UAP for decades.
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Everything observed can be categorized
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by five distinct
performance characteristics.
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At AATIP, we call these The Observables.
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The first observable
is hypersonic velocity.
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{\an8}Our current fastest aircraft
can go roughly 4,600 miles per hour.
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{\an8}However, the UAP we are observing
are traveling at 40,000 miles per hour
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{\an8}and sometimes faster.
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The next observable is
instantaneous acceleration,
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the sudden change in velocity.
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At full speed,
the SR-71, known as a Blackbird,
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{\an8}requires roughly half the state of Ohio
to complete its turn.
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{\an8}What we are seeing with UAP are vehicles
that can make immediate right-angle turns,
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instantaneously accelerating
and stopping on a dime
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at speeds up to ten times faster
than the SR-71.
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If you're in a sustained flight,
you can get up to seven-and-a-half Gs.
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{\an8}It gets physically painful over time
to be under that amount of gravity.
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{\an8}And that's just going
from zero to 200 miles an hour
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in about two-and-a-half seconds.
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Now, think of going zero
to thousands of miles an hour
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in less than a second,
what the force would be on your body.
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The human body can only take so much
before the internal organs start
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to separate themselves from everything
they're hooked to, which is usually bad.
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{\an8}Even if it was a drone, it would rip
the drone, the unmanned vehicle apart.
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[Lue] The next observable
is low observability.
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All modern technology have a signature.
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For example, most aircraft leave
visible contrails as they fly.
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We usually hear a sonic boom associated
with the sound barrier being broken.
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UAP, however, leave almost
no observable signatures.
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{\an8}Our airplanes actually throw out
exhaust behind it and thrust behind it
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to push it forward.
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Whatever these things are,
they're not doing that.
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There is no exhaust, no particles
coming off of 'em that we can see.
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[Lue] The next observable
is transmedium travel.
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UAP have been observed operating
in space, in air and underwater,
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and they're moving seamlessly
through each of these environments
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without any normal signature
and without compromising performance.
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{\an8}We've observed a transmedium capability
of these phenomenon
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{\an8}to move from space
to the atmosphere to the ocean.
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{\an8}[Jay]
In the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case,
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{\an8}a DHS helicopter caught
the spherical object flying.
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{\an8}It entered the water and exited the water,
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so transmedium
without losing any velocity.
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{\an8}It goes into the ocean and makes
no splash or wake at 74 miles per hour.
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I calculated how much force you would
require just to propel a basketball
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under the water at 74 miles per hour,
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and you'd need
a BE-7 rocket motor,
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or two Learjet engines
that would churn the water up like crazy.
458
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,175
So this is a technology
that's frictionless.
459
00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:17,677
[Lue] The next
observable is anti-gravity.
460
00:27:17,678 --> 00:27:21,181
UAP seemed to be defying
the natural effects of earth's gravity
461
00:27:21,182 --> 00:27:23,808
without any obvious means of doing so.
462
00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:26,436
No signs of propulsion or lift,
meaning no wings,
463
00:27:26,437 --> 00:27:29,481
no control surfaces
or ability to maneuver.
464
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,107
{\an8}In 2014 to 2015,
465
00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:35,820
{\an8}we were operating off the coast of
Virginia Beach, off the eastern seaboard.
466
00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:39,491
It was during this time that we upgraded
our radar from the APG-73
467
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,076
to the APG-79 radar,
468
00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:46,414
and this allowed us to essentially see
more objects we weren't expecting to see.
469
00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:49,084
And there's a particular case
of one of these objects
470
00:27:49,085 --> 00:27:51,586
maintaining a complete stationary position
471
00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:55,632
inside of 120 knot winds,
essentially inside of a hurricane.
472
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:57,342
{\an8}[man 1] They're all
going against the wind.
473
00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,719
{\an8}The wind's 120 knots from the west.
474
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,180
{\an8}[man 2]
Look at that thing! It's rotating.
475
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,767
It just seems like they're not affected
by the environment the way we are.
476
00:28:05,768 --> 00:28:08,186
They were tracking 'em
from above 80,000 feet.
477
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,438
So for those that don't know,
above 80,000,
478
00:28:10,439 --> 00:28:12,607
that's where you start getting into space.
479
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,817
So these things were coming down.
480
00:28:13,818 --> 00:28:16,444
{\an8}They would sit for three hours
and they'd go back up,
481
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:17,654
{\an8}which to my knowledge,
482
00:28:17,655 --> 00:28:21,366
{\an8}we don't have anything
that has the capabilities
483
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:24,619
{\an8}as far as the energy required
to come down,
484
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,371
{\an8}hangout for three hours and go up.
485
00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:30,625
{\an8}The observed UAP capability exceeds that
486
00:28:30,626 --> 00:28:34,337
{\an8}of even the most advanced,
uh, human technologies
487
00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:36,673
that are developed
in classified black programs.
488
00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:40,970
From our exposure, I mean,
there's nothing we have that comes close.
489
00:28:42,513 --> 00:28:44,681
[Lue]
There's actually a six observable,
490
00:28:44,682 --> 00:28:50,229
which is not a flight characteristic,
that is biological effects.
491
00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:54,817
{\an8}[Garry Nolan] I got started
working on this actually in this office.
492
00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,360
{\an8}There was a knock at the door,
493
00:28:57,361 --> 00:28:59,696
{\an8}and two individuals
who represented themselves
494
00:28:59,697 --> 00:29:04,200
{\an8}as being with the CIA and an aerospace
company came to me and asked for my help.
495
00:29:04,201 --> 00:29:09,831
{\an8}They had, uh, data of military personnel,
intelligence officials
496
00:29:09,832 --> 00:29:12,417
and others associated
with the Department of Defense
497
00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:15,420
who had direct interactions with UAP.
498
00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:20,008
And because of that direct interaction
suffered some kind of medical harm.
499
00:29:20,009 --> 00:29:23,470
They wanted my help to look
at the so-called inflammatory
500
00:29:23,471 --> 00:29:26,055
secondary events
that might be measured in the blood,
501
00:29:26,056 --> 00:29:30,727
anything from the horrific burns that
I've seen on some of the individuals
502
00:29:30,728 --> 00:29:33,938
that leads to secondary problems
with autoimmune diseases
503
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:35,565
and sclerosis, et cetera,
504
00:29:35,566 --> 00:29:39,194
and then the internal scarring
that I've seen on some individuals.
505
00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:42,906
These people had scarring inside of
their bodies and inside of their brains.
506
00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:44,032
And you have to think about it.
507
00:29:44,033 --> 00:29:47,243
You know, if you get too close
to the back end of a jet engine,
508
00:29:47,244 --> 00:29:50,246
or for instance, if you get too close
to the transformer system
509
00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:54,584
that's just powering your neighborhood,
there's energy coming out of those things.
510
00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:56,836
I mean, those are just human technologies.
511
00:29:56,837 --> 00:30:00,465
Now imagine you've got something
which is a more advanced technology,
512
00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:05,428
which is generating some kind of field
that allows these objects to move,
513
00:30:05,429 --> 00:30:08,641
if you get too close to it,
you are gonna get harmed.
514
00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:13,478
{\an8}I spent ten years as an intelligence
officer for the Navy.
515
00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:16,607
{\an8}And before that,
six years as Air Force intelligence.
516
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,069
And I spent time on the UAP task force.
517
00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:23,279
I'm one of the intelligence officials
518
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,493
that has experienced biological effects
of encountering UAP.
519
00:30:28,494 --> 00:30:31,120
Since my first encounter,
520
00:30:31,121 --> 00:30:35,876
I've observed other craft, orbs,
521
00:30:36,043 --> 00:30:38,586
we'll call it exotic energy fields.
522
00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:43,258
Unfortunately, um,
those of us who have investigated it,
523
00:30:43,259 --> 00:30:47,637
we become part of the investigation
or investigated by our colleagues.
524
00:30:47,638 --> 00:30:52,517
The population had
about a 25% mortality rate
525
00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:55,395
within seven years
of having an interaction.
526
00:30:55,396 --> 00:30:59,732
Probably important
that the public understands
527
00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:04,320
that this is more than
just an aerial phenomenon.
528
00:31:04,321 --> 00:31:08,449
{\an8}When you have an anecdote
that is accompanied by medical data,
529
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:12,996
{\an8}that's something that I can hand to
another scientist, another doctor and say,
530
00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:14,789
{\an8}"Here it is. You explain it."
531
00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:19,587
We can argue about what the conclusion is,
but we can't argue that the data is real.
532
00:31:24,925 --> 00:31:26,759
{\an8}[Jay] The deputy director
of Naval Intelligence,
533
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,430
who understood
the national security concerns of UAP,
534
00:31:30,431 --> 00:31:34,392
directed me to start quietly building out
a whole government interagency effort
535
00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:36,520
that ultimately became the UAP task force.
536
00:31:37,354 --> 00:31:40,440
This new program
was much bigger than AATIP ever was.
537
00:31:40,441 --> 00:31:44,277
Our mission was to detect,
analyze and catalog UAPs
538
00:31:44,278 --> 00:31:47,530
that pose a threat
to US national security.
539
00:31:47,531 --> 00:31:52,910
I had handpicked members from all 16
agencies of the intelligence community.
540
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,913
{\an8}The Secretary of Defense formally
announced the UAP task force
541
00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:59,208
{\an8}in August 2020,
naming me the first director.
542
00:31:59,209 --> 00:32:02,212
Everyone in authority was
paying attention to this topic.
543
00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:09,385
One distinctive moment for me was briefing
then Secretary of Treasury, Steve Mnuchin.
544
00:32:09,386 --> 00:32:12,347
I got through my briefing.
And at the end of the brief,
545
00:32:12,348 --> 00:32:14,974
he sat back in his chair
and he said, "You know, Jay,
546
00:32:14,975 --> 00:32:17,560
you may wonder
why I asked for this briefing."
547
00:32:17,561 --> 00:32:22,899
He said, "What are the economic impacts
of the president going to the microphone
548
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,693
and telling the world we're not alone?"
549
00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:30,448
I have to think about those kinds
of impacts in order to prepare
550
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:33,535
if the president were to make that move.
551
00:32:34,745 --> 00:32:36,704
[Lue]
Meanwhile, Chris Mellon and I
552
00:32:36,705 --> 00:32:39,666
were working with the Senate
behind the scenes
553
00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:45,296
to craft UAP legislation
that was then taken by Marco Rubio
554
00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:48,967
and pushed
into the coronavirus relief bill.
555
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:53,596
When President Trump signed
this legislation into law,
556
00:32:53,597 --> 00:32:58,226
it then forced the Pentagon
and the UAP task force to provide
557
00:32:58,227 --> 00:33:02,898
written reports to Congress,
both classified and unclassified.
558
00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:09,529
{\an8}The long-awaited Pentagon report
on UFOs has finally been released.
559
00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:11,989
{\an8}The Director of National Intelligence
just a few days ago
560
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:14,742
{\an8}released a new report on 144 sightings.
561
00:33:14,743 --> 00:33:16,911
When we talk about sightings,
we're talking about objects
562
00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:19,956
that have been seen
by Navy or Air Force pilots
563
00:33:19,957 --> 00:33:22,250
or have been picked up
by satellite imagery.
564
00:33:22,251 --> 00:33:25,128
Frankly, there are a lot more sightings
than have been made public.
565
00:33:25,129 --> 00:33:27,463
{\an8}[reporter] The report
clarifies that most incidents
566
00:33:27,464 --> 00:33:29,215
{\an8}over the past two decades
567
00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:35,263
{\an8}are not from the US military or other
advanced US government technology.
568
00:33:35,264 --> 00:33:39,642
{\an8}So the issue now is why are they here,
where are they coming from
569
00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:43,771
and what is the technology
behind these devices that we're observing?
570
00:33:43,772 --> 00:33:46,607
As noisy as that
first unclassified report was,
571
00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,317
it barely scratched the surface.
572
00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:51,946
The few elected officials that got to read
the classified version of the report,
573
00:33:51,947 --> 00:33:55,783
it opened their eyes to the national
security concerns surrounding this topic.
574
00:33:55,784 --> 00:34:00,329
{\an8}There's enough obvious evidence here
that we need to take this seriously,
575
00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,581
{\an8}not downplay it.
576
00:34:01,582 --> 00:34:04,250
{\an8}I don't believe they're coming
from foreign adversaries.
577
00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:08,004
{\an8}Uh, if they were, that would suggest
that they have a technology
578
00:34:08,005 --> 00:34:11,215
{\an8}which is in a whole different sphere
than anything we understand.
579
00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:16,554
{\an8}Uh, frankly, China and Russia aren't there
and neither are we by the way.
580
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:18,389
{\an8}Trillions of galaxies out there,
581
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,101
{\an8}so who knows what might've
developed somewhere else?
582
00:34:21,852 --> 00:34:25,772
{\an8}[woman speaking]
583
00:34:25,773 --> 00:34:31,778
{\an8}What we believe is that
there are unexplained aerial phenomena
584
00:34:31,779 --> 00:34:35,656
{\an8}that have been cited
and reported by pilots,
585
00:34:35,657 --> 00:34:37,366
Navy and Air Force,
586
00:34:37,367 --> 00:34:42,663
that these phenomena have in some cases
had an impact on our training ranges,
587
00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:48,461
on our pilot's ability to fly,
train, operate and stay ready.
588
00:34:48,462 --> 00:34:55,051
Um, that alone makes it a national
security issue worth looking at.
589
00:34:55,052 --> 00:34:57,053
We don't know.
590
00:34:57,054 --> 00:35:00,265
We don't have the answers
about what these phenomena are.
591
00:35:06,522 --> 00:35:08,272
[Lue] As we continued
to make progress,
592
00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:14,071
a very powerful
disinformation campaign began.
593
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:20,744
This effort was to destroy
my reputation and credibility, full stop.
594
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,248
{\an8}[Jay] When the government started running
595
00:35:25,249 --> 00:35:27,834
{\an8}this despicable disinformation campaign
against Lue,
596
00:35:27,835 --> 00:35:31,629
{\an8}I actually received an email one day
from the Pentagon Public Affairs office
597
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:34,215
with this narrative
that they were providing back to the media
598
00:35:34,216 --> 00:35:36,217
that was completely false.
599
00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:38,886
I replied all to that email and said,
"This is wrong,"
600
00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:40,305
and they ran with it anyway.
601
00:35:50,274 --> 00:35:54,235
They actually told the American people
that Lue Elizondo did not work there,
602
00:35:54,236 --> 00:35:56,154
and that was an outright lie.
603
00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:00,658
[Lue] My family and I
suffered greatly for it.
604
00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:04,121
All you have in your life
is really your credibility and your word.
605
00:36:05,581 --> 00:36:06,832
It's heartbreaking.
606
00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:14,547
{\an8}They don't want anybody that's
based on facts being involved in this,
607
00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:15,882
{\an8}so what do they do?
608
00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:20,595
{\an8}They go online and try to belittle
Elizondo and me and anybody else
609
00:36:20,596 --> 00:36:23,140
{\an8}that's trying to do it
in a scientific way.
610
00:36:26,935 --> 00:36:28,144
[Lue] As hard as it was,
611
00:36:28,145 --> 00:36:30,981
I was still being privately encouraged
by former members of AATIP
612
00:36:31,106 --> 00:36:32,356
to continue the fight,
613
00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:35,985
and so that gave me the motivation
to continue to press forward,
614
00:36:35,986 --> 00:36:38,863
and the fire that we started
continued to spread.
615
00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:41,115
After decades of public denial,
616
00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:44,827
the Pentagon now admits
there's something out there,
617
00:36:44,828 --> 00:36:47,705
and the US Senate
wants to know what it is.
618
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:52,668
UFOs, Unidentified Flying Objects,
are real?
619
00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,046
The government has already stated
for the record that they're real.
620
00:36:55,047 --> 00:36:57,965
I'm not telling you that,
the US government is telling you that.
621
00:36:57,966 --> 00:37:02,303
There's footage and records
of objects in the skies
622
00:37:02,304 --> 00:37:05,181
that we don't know exactly what they are.
623
00:37:05,182 --> 00:37:08,851
What's your viewpoint
on what these objects,
624
00:37:08,852 --> 00:37:12,439
uh, that seem to defy
all laws of physics are?
625
00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:18,444
Well, first of all,
that's a legitimate question now.
626
00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:20,613
There are lots of mysteries out there.
627
00:37:20,614 --> 00:37:24,283
It should keep us humble.
There's a lot of stuff we don't know.
628
00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:25,952
{\an8}There've been sightings
all over the world.
629
00:37:25,953 --> 00:37:29,246
{\an8}And when we talk about sightings,
the other thing I will tell you is
630
00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:35,252
{\an8}it's not just a pilot or just a satellite
or some, um, intelligence collection.
631
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:39,340
{\an8}Usually we have multiple sensors
that are picking up these things.
632
00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:42,426
{\an8}There's always the question of
is there something else
633
00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:45,846
{\an8}that we simply do not understand
that might come extra-terrestrially?
634
00:37:45,847 --> 00:37:47,515
{\an8}I think it's a bit presumptuous,
635
00:37:47,516 --> 00:37:52,436
{\an8}if not arrogant for us to believe that
there's no other form of life anywhere
636
00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:54,397
in the entire universe.
637
00:37:54,398 --> 00:37:56,649
I've seen some of those videos
from Navy pilots,
638
00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:59,819
and I must tell you
that they are quite eyebrow-raising,
639
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:04,490
and, um, might in fact be
some type of phenomenon
640
00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:10,079
that is the result of something
that, um, we don't yet understand,
641
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,334
and that could involve
some type of activity
642
00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:18,547
{\an8}that some might say
constitutes a different form of life.
643
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:27,096
We don't know if the non-human
intelligence that is already here
644
00:38:27,097 --> 00:38:29,348
is exclusively extraterrestrial
645
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:32,893
or perhaps
some sort of cryptoterrestrial.
646
00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:36,939
Some people who are into
the physics of time travel think
647
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:39,025
well, maybe they're time travelers.
648
00:38:39,026 --> 00:38:41,485
Even some sort of proto-human
649
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:45,114
that somehow branched off
from the human family tree long ago
650
00:38:45,115 --> 00:38:47,491
and is as natural
to this planet as we are.
651
00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:50,786
Some ancient civilization
that's sequestered away
652
00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:53,623
somewhere on the Earth
or on the seabed.
653
00:38:54,791 --> 00:38:59,670
We've heard testimonials
from pilots as well as civilians
654
00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:04,759
from different countries having
seen things come from the ocean,
655
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,305
unexplained things, and these aren't
missiles, they aren't rockets,
656
00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:11,849
they aren't aircraft or submarines.
657
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,601
These are other-worldly things
658
00:39:13,602 --> 00:39:17,063
that are performing maneuvers
that haven't been seen.
659
00:39:17,064 --> 00:39:21,442
In fact, we have tracked UAP
underwater going at speeds
660
00:39:21,443 --> 00:39:24,278
in excess
of several hundred miles an hour,
661
00:39:24,279 --> 00:39:26,906
but without the associated signatures.
662
00:39:26,907 --> 00:39:29,492
{\an8}I retired
as the oceanographer of the Navy,
663
00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:33,580
{\an8}being the senior advisor for the Chief
of Naval Operations in the Pentagon.
664
00:39:34,414 --> 00:39:37,416
{\an8}But our knowledge
of the ocean's rather limited.
665
00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:40,837
{\an8}We haven't even explored
80% of the ocean volume.
666
00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:46,509
{\an8}We have mapped the surface of Mars
and the moon to a higher resolution
667
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:47,968
than the Earth's sea floor.
668
00:39:47,969 --> 00:39:53,015
[Lue] Is it possible that whatever
we're seeing isn't from out there,
669
00:39:53,016 --> 00:39:55,392
it's from down there?
670
00:39:55,393 --> 00:40:00,856
Are we looking at an entire
world underneath the water?
671
00:40:00,857 --> 00:40:04,860
{\an8}I think it's very safe to say that with
so much of the ocean volume unexplored
672
00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:10,199
{\an8}and the sea floor unmapped that
if any intelligence were to arrive here
673
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,954
and not want to be detected,
it would stay in the ocean.
674
00:40:14,955 --> 00:40:20,918
All these possibilities could come
with different intentions and motivations.
675
00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:27,007
Whoever it is, they're here
and they're operating here,
676
00:40:27,008 --> 00:40:29,052
and they have been operating here
for a long time.
677
00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:44,775
In 2022, we started pushing Congress hard
to hold public UAP hearings,
678
00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:47,571
and that's when disclosures
started to get to the next level.
679
00:40:50,907 --> 00:40:56,162
{\an8}House panel is holding a public hearing
on mysterious flying objects.
680
00:40:56,163 --> 00:40:58,247
{\an8}The chairman of the House
Intelligence Committee describes this
681
00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:00,791
{\an8}as one of the great mysteries of our time,
682
00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:04,795
{\an8}and it's a big day for all of these people
who have spent so many years
683
00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,381
{\an8}pushing for more transparency
into this topic.
684
00:41:07,382 --> 00:41:09,842
{\an8}Out of everything in Congress
and everything happening
685
00:41:09,843 --> 00:41:11,927
{\an8}currently in our country
and world right now,
686
00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:17,391
{\an8}the UAP topic has been
one of the only topics
687
00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:19,643
that's received
this level of bipartisan support.
688
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,188
It's just not an issue,
at least as of yet, in this country
689
00:41:22,189 --> 00:41:25,941
that lends itself to some sort of
partisan or ideological divide.
690
00:41:25,942 --> 00:41:29,738
{\an8}Democrats and Republicans
just want to understand what's going on.
691
00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:33,490
[André Carson]
This hearing and oversight work
692
00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:36,035
has a simple idea at its core.
693
00:41:36,036 --> 00:41:40,998
{\an8}Unidentified aerial phenomena
are a potential national security threat,
694
00:41:40,999 --> 00:41:43,042
{\an8}and they need to be treated that way.
695
00:41:43,043 --> 00:41:47,379
{\an8}UAPs are unexplained.
It's true, but they are real.
696
00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:49,006
{\an8}They need to be investigated,
697
00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:51,884
{\an8}and many threats
they pose need to be mitigated.
698
00:41:51,885 --> 00:41:54,178
{\an8}There is something there
measurable by multiple instruments,
699
00:41:54,179 --> 00:41:57,514
{\an8}and yet it seems to move
in directions that are inconsistent
700
00:41:57,515 --> 00:42:01,101
{\an8}with what we know of physics
or science, more broadly.
701
00:42:01,102 --> 00:42:05,439
{\an8}There are a number of events
in which we do not have an explanation,
702
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,483
{\an8}in which there are flight characteristics
703
00:42:07,484 --> 00:42:11,195
{\an8}or signature management,
um, that we can't explain.
704
00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:13,030
{\an8}We know that our service members
705
00:42:13,031 --> 00:42:17,034
{\an8}have encountered
unidentified aerial phenomenon.
706
00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:21,538
{\an8}And because UAPs pose potential
flight safety and general security risk,
707
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:25,209
{\an8}we are committed to a focused effort
to determine their origins.
708
00:42:25,210 --> 00:42:26,502
{\an8}The capabilities, systems,
709
00:42:26,503 --> 00:42:31,006
{\an8}processes and sources we use to observe,
record, study or analyze these phenomena
710
00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:33,509
{\an8}need to be classified
at appropriate levels.
711
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:38,055
{\an8}We do not want, we do not want
potential adversaries to know
712
00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,391
exactly what we're able
to see or understand
713
00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:42,768
or how we come
to the conclusions we make.
714
00:42:42,769 --> 00:42:46,647
Therefore, public disclosures
must be carefully considered
715
00:42:46,648 --> 00:42:48,441
on a case-by-case basis.
716
00:42:48,942 --> 00:42:53,612
The hearing was a historic
bipartisan effort towards transparency,
717
00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:56,282
but it left both the American public
and Congress
718
00:42:56,283 --> 00:42:58,284
with more questions than answers.
719
00:42:58,285 --> 00:42:59,994
While I was making progress,
720
00:42:59,995 --> 00:43:04,581
I learned that the Legacy Program was
quietly behind the scenes pushing back,
721
00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:06,542
and they were creating
bureaucratic hurdles.
722
00:43:06,543 --> 00:43:08,294
They were somehow
able to block the funding
723
00:43:08,295 --> 00:43:10,296
that was approved for the UAP task force.
724
00:43:10,297 --> 00:43:12,756
I can't describe it any other way
than I was just angry.
725
00:43:12,757 --> 00:43:17,136
There's this hidden hand that is blocking
all of these actions and things I'm doing.
726
00:43:17,137 --> 00:43:20,222
A subversive government
overriding the real government.
727
00:43:20,223 --> 00:43:23,559
It's so bad that we really
aren't going to make progress
728
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,395
until someone shines the light on them.
729
00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:29,983
[Mellon] Then the staff
and the members start to dig in more.
730
00:43:31,151 --> 00:43:33,652
They begin to understand the landscape.
731
00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:36,780
They begin to understand
how much secrecy there is,
732
00:43:36,781 --> 00:43:39,701
how much resistance there is
to coming clean on this.
733
00:43:42,871 --> 00:43:46,790
As Congress began hearing from
whistleblowers in classified settings,
734
00:43:46,791 --> 00:43:50,003
they came to the realization
of the existence of the Legacy Program.
735
00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:56,800
The main players in the Legacy Program
736
00:43:56,801 --> 00:44:00,179
have long been
the Central Intelligence Agency,
737
00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:02,306
the United States Air Force,
738
00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:06,977
{\an8}the Department of Energy,
and major defense contractors.
739
00:44:06,978 --> 00:44:11,107
The Central Intelligence Agency
is responsible for the oversight
740
00:44:11,274 --> 00:44:13,067
of the overall effort.
741
00:44:13,068 --> 00:44:16,528
You might think of them as a little bit
as a headquarters element.
742
00:44:16,529 --> 00:44:19,907
The Deputy Director of Science
and Technology at the CIA
743
00:44:19,908 --> 00:44:23,786
controls the UAP
crash retrieval portfolio.
744
00:44:23,787 --> 00:44:27,831
[Lue] The United States Air Force
is responsible for field operations.
745
00:44:27,832 --> 00:44:32,503
These are the folks that are responsible
for deploying within moment's notice
746
00:44:32,504 --> 00:44:38,093
anywhere in the world to go
secure and retrieve crashed UAP.
747
00:44:40,387 --> 00:44:46,100
{\an8}We have intelligence teams
quickly notified if there's some UAP event
748
00:44:46,101 --> 00:44:50,437
that might involve a crashed vehicle
or pieces from a crashed vehicle.
749
00:44:50,438 --> 00:44:53,273
The United States Air Force
uses their own special forces,
750
00:44:53,274 --> 00:44:56,193
but they also coordinate
with other special forces
751
00:44:56,194 --> 00:44:57,987
in other branches of US military.
752
00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:03,617
They're so well organized
that they basically can get to a site,
753
00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:08,414
gather material, whatever it is,
and once it's in their possession,
754
00:45:08,415 --> 00:45:12,543
they have the authority to classify it,
755
00:45:12,544 --> 00:45:16,380
and therefore make any information
about it unavailable to the public,
756
00:45:16,381 --> 00:45:20,135
even admission that it exists
unavailable to the public.
757
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:23,303
[Lue] The defense contractors,
758
00:45:23,304 --> 00:45:27,349
they're responsible for the exploitation
and the reverse engineering
759
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:28,934
and analysis of the materials.
760
00:45:28,935 --> 00:45:32,146
They provide technical
and advisory services
761
00:45:32,147 --> 00:45:33,856
that the government doesn't have.
762
00:45:33,857 --> 00:45:37,234
And last but not least
is the Department of Energy.
763
00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:41,947
They are the world's experts in anything
that is related to either atomic
764
00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:45,826
or nuclear technology
or anything that gives off radiation.
765
00:45:45,827 --> 00:45:48,745
But there's another advantage
because the Department of Energy
766
00:45:48,746 --> 00:45:51,915
has its own security
classification system
767
00:45:51,916 --> 00:45:56,378
well outside the overview
and oversight, if you will,
768
00:45:56,379 --> 00:46:00,757
of traditional classification systems
like the Department of Defense
769
00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:02,593
or the intelligence community.
770
00:46:02,594 --> 00:46:07,931
They've used the security
and classification language
771
00:46:07,932 --> 00:46:13,188
in the Atomic Energy Act to hide
the Legacy crash retrieval program.
772
00:46:16,232 --> 00:46:20,027
{\an8}The intelligence officials
that have briefed on these
773
00:46:20,028 --> 00:46:24,573
{\an8}crash retrievals have talked
about a number of different species
774
00:46:24,574 --> 00:46:27,409
{\an8}having been observed
to be associated with the crash.
775
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:30,497
{\an8}Bodies recovered
are not all of the same type.
776
00:46:32,207 --> 00:46:36,126
{\an8}I'm aware of at least
two advanced non-human species,
777
00:46:36,127 --> 00:46:40,089
{\an8}one of which made contact
with the Legacy crash retrieval program.
778
00:46:40,882 --> 00:46:44,968
The other of which, the bodies were
recovered by the crash retrieval program
779
00:46:44,969 --> 00:46:46,762
in various crashes.
780
00:46:46,763 --> 00:46:48,764
One of the questions is often raised,
781
00:46:48,765 --> 00:46:51,350
if they're so advanced,
why are there crashes?
782
00:46:51,351 --> 00:46:53,852
But of course, I mean, you know,
783
00:46:53,853 --> 00:46:56,647
cars are well made
and people drive them carefully,
784
00:46:56,648 --> 00:46:59,942
but there are crashes. It can happen.
785
00:46:59,943 --> 00:47:04,863
Another option that's being considered
is that maybe some of these
786
00:47:04,864 --> 00:47:07,574
were not "really crashes,"
787
00:47:07,575 --> 00:47:12,037
but that they were left here
for us to examine
788
00:47:12,038 --> 00:47:15,958
in order to advance
our technology forward at a faster pace.
789
00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:21,046
So in that sense, they can be seen
as gifts from a more intelligent species.
790
00:47:21,047 --> 00:47:24,508
One of the questions that would
then be raised would be, well,
791
00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:29,555
are gifts distributed differently
among different nations
792
00:47:29,556 --> 00:47:33,350
or more or less homogeneously
793
00:47:33,351 --> 00:47:37,896
to see who survives
and makes progress the fastest?
794
00:47:37,897 --> 00:47:41,943
It could be a giant IQ test,
you might say.
795
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,490
[Lue] As we brought
whistleblowers to Congress,
796
00:47:48,491 --> 00:47:54,079
we learned that the Legacy Program
was involved in a long running secret war
797
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,333
with other nations
to collect and reverse engineer
798
00:47:58,334 --> 00:48:02,213
vehicles not made by humans.
799
00:48:06,092 --> 00:48:08,969
In this secret theater of war,
800
00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:15,476
the US has both allies and adversaries
in a winner takes all scenario.
801
00:48:17,103 --> 00:48:21,273
This is a very complicated
geopolitical landscape,
802
00:48:21,274 --> 00:48:26,154
where alliances and allegiances
shift like sand in the desert.
803
00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:32,242
{\an8}We would certainly prefer
a situation where the retrieval
804
00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:37,414
{\an8}is either in international waters
or some other uncontested location
805
00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:39,458
or maybe in an allied country,
806
00:48:39,459 --> 00:48:43,962
but every country in the world
would do everything in their power
807
00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:47,341
to try to retrieve
an exquisite piece of technology.
808
00:48:47,342 --> 00:48:50,427
The first country that cracks
the code on this technology
809
00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,304
will be the leader for years to come.
810
00:48:52,305 --> 00:48:53,972
This is similar to the Manhattan Project.
811
00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:55,265
We developed the atomic weapon.
812
00:48:55,266 --> 00:48:58,853
We won the war, and it made us
a superpower for almost a century now.
813
00:49:00,271 --> 00:49:02,356
This is the atomic weapon on steroids.
814
00:49:02,357 --> 00:49:07,444
Some of the craft observed could be
the result of say our Legacy Program,
815
00:49:07,445 --> 00:49:11,406
or on the other hand,
it might be the result of advancements
816
00:49:11,407 --> 00:49:13,408
made by potential adversaries.
817
00:49:13,409 --> 00:49:18,664
{\an8}We have seen highly credible
US government intelligence
818
00:49:18,665 --> 00:49:23,752
on the Soviet recovery
of a crashed UAP in 1989.
819
00:49:23,753 --> 00:49:28,674
They recovered a Tic-Tac shaped UAP
that was twice as big as the Tic Tac
820
00:49:28,675 --> 00:49:32,052
that was encountered
by the USS Nimitz carrier strike group,
821
00:49:32,053 --> 00:49:37,224
and they did recover
four bodies of humanoid aliens.
822
00:49:37,225 --> 00:49:41,311
The Soviet scientists
took apart the recovered craft
823
00:49:41,312 --> 00:49:47,150
and discovered a very advanced
directed energy weapon.
824
00:49:47,151 --> 00:49:49,361
China is at the top of everybody's list
825
00:49:49,362 --> 00:49:51,947
of concern right now
in the Defense Department.
826
00:49:51,948 --> 00:49:55,992
[Lue] Some of this UAP activity
we are seeing here in the United States
827
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:57,911
may actually be a result
828
00:49:57,912 --> 00:50:01,999
of a Chinese UAP
reverse engineering program.
829
00:50:03,126 --> 00:50:07,295
{\an8}If Xi Jinping had access to this,
if Putin had access to this,
830
00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:10,215
{\an8}and they thought
that we did not have access
831
00:50:10,216 --> 00:50:13,885
{\an8}to similar capabilities
than what they did,
832
00:50:13,886 --> 00:50:17,013
do you think for a second
that they wouldn't consider
833
00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:19,433
using it to achieve
their ends of domination?
834
00:50:19,434 --> 00:50:22,477
[Rubio] And if their
approach to it is driven by science
835
00:50:22,478 --> 00:50:25,021
and a desire to match
what they think is ours,
836
00:50:25,022 --> 00:50:26,898
we'll wake up one day and realize,
837
00:50:26,899 --> 00:50:29,109
I don't know how they got there,
but they got there ahead of us,
838
00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:30,694
and now we're screwed.
839
00:50:30,695 --> 00:50:35,824
This technology can absolutely either
revolutionize the way we do things
840
00:50:35,825 --> 00:50:39,286
or completely destroy
everything that we know.
841
00:50:39,287 --> 00:50:43,749
It often reminds me of the famous speech
by President John F. Kennedy
842
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:47,627
when we were
right at the threshold of entering
843
00:50:47,628 --> 00:50:51,423
into a new era of discovery in space.
844
00:50:51,424 --> 00:50:55,927
{\an8}There is new knowledge to be gained
and new rights to be won,
845
00:50:55,928 --> 00:51:01,475
{\an8}and they must be won
and used for the progress of all people,
846
00:51:01,476 --> 00:51:06,062
for space science
like nuclear science and all technology
847
00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:08,065
has no conscience of its own.
848
00:51:08,941 --> 00:51:13,820
Whether it will become a force
for good or ill depends on man.
849
00:51:13,821 --> 00:51:20,452
And only if the United States
occupies a position of preeminence
850
00:51:20,453 --> 00:51:27,250
can we help decide whether this
new ocean will be a sea of peace
851
00:51:27,251 --> 00:51:30,213
or a new terrifying theater of war.
852
00:51:31,756 --> 00:51:36,301
{\an8}Some of this is so secret,
there have been very, very few people
853
00:51:36,302 --> 00:51:40,473
{\an8}in our entire government that have
been allowed or provided access to it.
854
00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:46,937
[Lue] Some presidents have been briefed
on the basic facts about the situation,
855
00:51:46,938 --> 00:51:49,564
but they are not provided
with all the details.
856
00:51:49,565 --> 00:51:51,358
[Rubio] I think there's
this assumption that presidents
857
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,819
can walk in the Oval Office
on day one and say,
858
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:55,987
"All right, take me to Roswell.
Show me the alien bodies."
859
00:51:55,988 --> 00:51:57,781
{\an8}"I want to see the video, the autopsy.
I want to see the whole thing."
860
00:51:57,782 --> 00:51:58,866
{\an8}"Open it up."
861
00:51:58,991 --> 00:52:01,368
{\an8}I think that really is a, um--
862
00:52:01,369 --> 00:52:06,541
{\an8}A naive understanding
of how our government works.
863
00:52:08,376 --> 00:52:12,921
Even presidents have often been
operating on a need-to-know basis.
864
00:52:12,922 --> 00:52:15,215
That's certainly true
from historic standpoint.
865
00:52:15,216 --> 00:52:18,176
The rationale, the justification was,
866
00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:20,428
the president shouldn't know
about these things because that way
867
00:52:20,429 --> 00:52:22,472
the president always has deniability.
868
00:52:22,473 --> 00:52:25,100
All they need is a nod
in this direction or in that direction,
869
00:52:25,101 --> 00:52:27,394
but that begins
to ramp out of control.
870
00:52:27,395 --> 00:52:29,855
Frankly, I don't even know
if president would know who to ask.
871
00:52:29,856 --> 00:52:31,857
You could go to the director of the CIA,
872
00:52:31,858 --> 00:52:34,693
nowadays, the director
of National Intelligence, and ask them,
873
00:52:34,694 --> 00:52:38,321
and even that person may not know
because those people rotate,
874
00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:41,783
but people three layers underneath them
that are there for 30 years,
875
00:52:41,784 --> 00:52:44,744
to them, it's like, "I've seen
these people come and go."
876
00:52:44,745 --> 00:52:46,580
"I have no obligation
to tell them it exists."
877
00:52:46,581 --> 00:52:47,873
It just never percolates up.
878
00:52:47,874 --> 00:52:51,167
A lot of people have this assumption
that the director of CIA's
879
00:52:51,168 --> 00:52:52,669
right onto everything
and knows everything.
880
00:52:52,670 --> 00:52:54,880
The director of CIA
is a political appointee.
881
00:52:54,881 --> 00:52:57,632
Quite frankly, [stutters]
they're temporary help,
882
00:52:57,633 --> 00:53:00,594
whereas the Director
of Science Technology at CIA,
883
00:53:00,595 --> 00:53:02,470
this is a career
intelligence professional,
884
00:53:02,471 --> 00:53:04,431
that's where you're gonna put the program.
885
00:53:04,432 --> 00:53:07,225
I had a few private conversations
886
00:53:07,226 --> 00:53:10,687
with former president
George Herbert Walker Bush in 2003
887
00:53:10,688 --> 00:53:13,398
in which he told me that
888
00:53:13,399 --> 00:53:16,651
when he became the CIA director
in the Ford administration,
889
00:53:16,652 --> 00:53:21,865
he was not briefed on the
Legacy UAP crash retrieval program.
890
00:53:21,866 --> 00:53:24,993
{\an8}But he later found out about it,
and he informed me
891
00:53:24,994 --> 00:53:27,746
{\an8}that there were a number
of crash retrievals that had taken place
892
00:53:27,747 --> 00:53:30,457
since the mid-1940s.
893
00:53:30,458 --> 00:53:32,542
And he also informed me
894
00:53:32,543 --> 00:53:36,880
{\an8}of a UAP event that took place
at Holloman Air Force Base in 1964,
895
00:53:36,881 --> 00:53:40,550
{\an8}where three UAPs approached
the Air Force Base.
896
00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:43,011
{\an8}One of them landed on the tarmac.
897
00:53:43,012 --> 00:53:48,141
And a non-human entity
deboarded the craft that landed
898
00:53:48,142 --> 00:53:53,897
and interacted with uniformed Air Force
and civilian CIA personnel.
899
00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:55,649
And when he asked for more details,
900
00:53:55,650 --> 00:53:58,110
he was told that
he did not have a need to know.
901
00:53:59,654 --> 00:54:03,740
{\an8}I served over 30 years
as a Army Green Beret
902
00:54:03,741 --> 00:54:08,203
{\an8}in the United States Army.
I ended my career as Secretary of Defense.
903
00:54:08,204 --> 00:54:13,291
Some intelligence official decided,
I, the acting Secretary of Defense,
904
00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:16,379
did not have a need to know
about the UAP topic.
905
00:54:16,963 --> 00:54:19,047
{\an8}[Lue] Several of
my colleagues participated
906
00:54:19,048 --> 00:54:22,342
{\an8}in a panel organized
by the George Bush administration
907
00:54:22,343 --> 00:54:25,596
when the administration contemplated
going public with disclosure.
908
00:54:25,763 --> 00:54:30,558
{\an8}What it was a group of ten or 12 people
from intelligence agencies,
909
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:33,269
{\an8}from the military, some business people,
910
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:36,898
and they said, "Here's what's going on."
911
00:54:36,899 --> 00:54:43,279
"The Americans, the Russians,
and Chinese all have crash retrieved craft
912
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,115
from some other civilization,
913
00:54:45,116 --> 00:54:48,451
and there's some belief at this point
914
00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:50,578
that maybe
this should be revealed to the public,
915
00:54:50,579 --> 00:54:54,374
and we want to know
what would the consequences be?"
916
00:54:54,375 --> 00:54:57,043
This is a topic
that has a potential to create
917
00:54:57,044 --> 00:55:01,339
serious ontological shock to society.
918
00:55:01,340 --> 00:55:03,049
It's not just national security.
919
00:55:03,050 --> 00:55:09,431
It's psychological, it's sociological,
it's theological and it's philosophical.
920
00:55:09,432 --> 00:55:10,974
{\an8}It's undermining in many ways,
921
00:55:10,975 --> 00:55:14,561
{\an8}it's troubling to a lot of people to say
that there's something else out there
922
00:55:14,562 --> 00:55:17,313
{\an8}either otherworldly, interdimensional.
923
00:55:17,314 --> 00:55:21,568
I think unfortunately
it goes against our traditions,
924
00:55:21,569 --> 00:55:24,404
our cultural traditions,
our religious traditions,
925
00:55:24,405 --> 00:55:27,575
and it challenges
the beliefs of a lot of people.
926
00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:33,747
[Lue] The Vatican has irrefutable evidence
that non-human intelligence exists.
927
00:55:33,748 --> 00:55:36,291
Although publicly
they don't want to acknowledge it,
928
00:55:36,292 --> 00:55:38,794
{\an8}privately,
they are very well aware of this.
929
00:55:40,546 --> 00:55:44,424
{\an8}What happens when society realizes
everything it's been taught
930
00:55:44,425 --> 00:55:48,970
about the entire history of our species
has been wrong
931
00:55:48,971 --> 00:55:53,725
and everybody learns all at once
that we're not the top of the food chain?
932
00:55:53,726 --> 00:55:56,102
We're not the alpha predators.
933
00:55:56,103 --> 00:56:00,231
It would be a shakeup for institutions,
934
00:56:00,232 --> 00:56:05,070
it'd be a shakeup for norms,
it'd be a shakeup in society.
935
00:56:05,071 --> 00:56:09,866
{\an8}One has to be careful
and one has to remember
936
00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:11,242
{\an8}that it's conceivable
937
00:56:11,243 --> 00:56:14,871
{\an8}that there's something
that's so disturbing or disruptive
938
00:56:14,872 --> 00:56:18,792
or negative that there is a rationale
939
00:56:18,793 --> 00:56:22,420
for not immediately disclosing
all of that information.
940
00:56:22,421 --> 00:56:25,715
We actually came up
with a list of 64 areas
941
00:56:25,716 --> 00:56:30,345
that really would be impacted to some
significant degree by such a disclosure.
942
00:56:30,346 --> 00:56:34,933
We add up all the numbers, it looks
like this would be kind of a bad idea.
943
00:56:34,934 --> 00:56:39,729
Did you go through the secret files,
the UFO documents?
944
00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:42,440
Now that you're out of office,
you can do anything you want, right?
945
00:56:42,441 --> 00:56:44,526
That's true. Yeah.
946
00:56:44,527 --> 00:56:46,070
Uh, but I'm not telling you.
947
00:56:49,073 --> 00:56:53,034
{\an8}Without a doubt,
there's hardly been any program
948
00:56:53,035 --> 00:56:58,164
{\an8}that has been so successfully
kept out of the public eye
949
00:56:58,165 --> 00:57:02,085
{\an8}as anything like crash retrievals
of unknown craft.
950
00:57:02,086 --> 00:57:06,714
This line of strong control started
951
00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:11,219
{\an8}at least in the Truman administration
with the Roswell crash.
952
00:57:11,220 --> 00:57:14,514
{\an8}In AATIP, we learned that the UAP event
953
00:57:14,515 --> 00:57:20,270
at the US Army airfield
in Roswell in 1947 did actually occur.
954
00:57:20,271 --> 00:57:23,273
It was described to be
a boot-heel shaped UAP
955
00:57:23,274 --> 00:57:26,401
that broke into two pieces on impact.
956
00:57:26,402 --> 00:57:29,404
And observers saw
what looked like hieroglyphics
957
00:57:29,405 --> 00:57:30,655
or some type of writing on it.
958
00:57:30,656 --> 00:57:33,575
You might describe 'em
as runes or glyphs, hieroglyphs,
959
00:57:33,576 --> 00:57:35,535
that were actually on the craft itself.
960
00:57:35,536 --> 00:57:40,415
And within that crash,
non-human bodies were recovered.
961
00:57:40,416 --> 00:57:45,003
Four non-human bodies were recovered
from the UAP crash at Roswell.
962
00:57:45,004 --> 00:57:47,922
The recovered material
rom the crash, including the bodies,
963
00:57:47,923 --> 00:57:49,591
were all sent up to Wright Field,
964
00:57:49,592 --> 00:57:52,468
which is now called
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
965
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:55,347
That's where the US had
their best reverse engineers.
966
00:57:56,765 --> 00:58:00,059
Think about the context
for everything in 1947.
967
00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:02,770
The US had just won World War II
968
00:58:02,771 --> 00:58:07,234
and was entering into
a Cold War with the USSR.
969
00:58:09,111 --> 00:58:15,992
These UAP presented a technology
of unfathomable power.
970
00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:20,955
It was imperative that the US be able
to reverse engineer this new technology
971
00:58:20,956 --> 00:58:24,125
before anybody else or before
anybody else even knew about it.
972
00:58:24,126 --> 00:58:26,878
You can't tell your friends
without telling your enemies.
973
00:58:26,879 --> 00:58:31,216
That's a key component to every decision
as to what we do or do not release.
974
00:58:31,217 --> 00:58:32,634
Back in 1947,
975
00:58:32,635 --> 00:58:36,387
{\an8}when they looked at this and they realized
it was real and they realized
976
00:58:36,388 --> 00:58:38,806
{\an8}they had no idea what it was.
977
00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:42,310
{\an8}This was something you couldn't
just talk about because the role
978
00:58:42,311 --> 00:58:45,313
{\an8}of the President of the United States
and the role of the military
979
00:58:45,314 --> 00:58:48,399
{\an8}is to defend the United States
and to protect its citizens.
980
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,985
If this is something
that they can't protect against,
981
00:58:50,986 --> 00:58:53,529
they're not gonna come out and say it.
They're not gonna scare anybody.
982
00:58:53,530 --> 00:58:56,741
They don't want to tell
the American public about the threat
983
00:58:56,742 --> 00:58:58,619
because there's nothing
they can do about it.
984
00:58:59,662 --> 00:59:04,374
[Lue] It was only a couple months after
Roswell that President Truman signed
985
00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:06,292
the National Security Act of 1947,
986
00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:11,256
which established both the Air Force
and the Central Intelligence Agency.
987
00:59:11,257 --> 00:59:14,884
That was the start point in which
both the CIA and the Air Force
988
00:59:14,885 --> 00:59:19,138
began to take
operational control of the UAP topic.
989
00:59:19,139 --> 00:59:21,891
But it wasn't until
a couple of years later
990
00:59:21,892 --> 00:59:25,395
when Truman signed
the Central Intelligence Agency Act
991
00:59:25,396 --> 00:59:28,648
that really allowed, endorsed the CIA
992
00:59:28,649 --> 00:59:31,693
to be able to run
secret intelligence operations
993
00:59:31,694 --> 00:59:34,279
outside the normal
routine oversight channels.
994
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,908
Basically be able to run operations
without anybody knowing.
995
00:59:39,118 --> 00:59:42,662
From Roswell on,
the strategy for dealing with the public
996
00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:46,291
and ensuring US secrecy is maintained
997
00:59:46,292 --> 00:59:50,878
was to basically adopt the strategy
of deny everything, admit nothing,
998
00:59:50,879 --> 00:59:52,839
make counter accusations,
999
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,968
put out false narratives,
intimidate and discredit witnesses.
1000
00:59:56,969 --> 01:00:00,471
In essence, deny, deny, deny.
1001
01:00:00,472 --> 01:00:03,266
Establish stigma surrounding this topic
1002
01:00:03,267 --> 01:00:05,435
in order to prevent
any type of disclosure.
1003
01:00:05,436 --> 01:00:12,442
Executive Order 12333 bans covert action
to influence the public and the media,
1004
01:00:12,443 --> 01:00:16,571
but the Legacy crash retrieval program
has been ignoring that.
1005
01:00:16,572 --> 01:00:20,908
In fact, they are aggressively
influencing public opinion
1006
01:00:20,909 --> 01:00:23,828
by using an active
disinformation campaign.
1007
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:28,541
{\an8}To create a tradition of disbelief,
where you basically start very early,
1008
01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:31,461
{\an8}"Nah, nah, everybody
who sees UFOs are crackpots,"
1009
01:00:31,462 --> 01:00:34,630
{\an8}and then that gets built in,
you know, to the media enterprise,
1010
01:00:34,631 --> 01:00:38,092
it gets built into Hollywood,
it gets built into the public.
1011
01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:41,471
CIA funded Hollywood movies
in order to create that ridicule factor
1012
01:00:41,472 --> 01:00:42,930
that they still use to this day.
1013
01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:47,685
{\an8}Do you believe that the recent spike
in UFO encounters--
1014
01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:50,313
{\an8}- [all laughing]
- I get the UFO question?
1015
01:00:50,314 --> 01:00:52,648
{\an8}- [woman] Yeah, you do!
- Come on, man!
1016
01:00:52,649 --> 01:00:55,151
{\an8}- I'm not--
- [people laughing]
1017
01:00:55,152 --> 01:00:56,778
- [man] Would you tell us?
- I'm just--
1018
01:00:56,779 --> 01:01:00,281
You know, I loved E.T. the movie,
but I'm just gonna leave it there.
1019
01:01:00,282 --> 01:01:04,077
Up until very recently, there was
zero incentive for a naval aviator
1020
01:01:04,078 --> 01:01:05,870
to come forward and say,
"This is what I saw."
1021
01:01:05,871 --> 01:01:08,998
And honestly, up until very recently,
there was zero incentive for a US Senator
1022
01:01:08,999 --> 01:01:10,750
to talk about it
because people would think,
1023
01:01:10,751 --> 01:01:12,502
"What's wrong? This guy's a weirdo."
1024
01:01:12,503 --> 01:01:15,254
Over the years, military service members,
1025
01:01:15,255 --> 01:01:18,800
intelligence officials and even
private citizens have been ridiculed
1026
01:01:18,801 --> 01:01:22,220
and made to look crazy to the point
where people have lost their jobs,
1027
01:01:22,221 --> 01:01:24,222
they've lost their ability
to provide for their families,
1028
01:01:24,223 --> 01:01:26,140
they lost their security clearances.
1029
01:01:26,141 --> 01:01:30,645
These people had their lives ruined
simply because they spoke the truth
1030
01:01:30,646 --> 01:01:33,272
about what they learned or what they saw.
1031
01:01:33,273 --> 01:01:35,566
{\an8}People that come forward with this,
1032
01:01:35,567 --> 01:01:39,570
{\an8}um, I feel like they've taken
their life in their own hands.
1033
01:01:39,571 --> 01:01:42,240
{\an8}People say, well, government
can't keep a secret.
1034
01:01:42,241 --> 01:01:44,158
{\an8}Well, there are a number of
programs I've been involved in
1035
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,994
{\an8}that have never gotten revealed.
1036
01:01:46,995 --> 01:01:51,165
The truth of the matter is
people and programs can be kept secret.
1037
01:01:51,166 --> 01:01:54,585
Usually it's just out of personal,
wanting to protect oneself.
1038
01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:58,631
This is the most successful
disinformation campaign
1039
01:01:58,632 --> 01:02:01,050
in the history of the US government.
1040
01:02:01,051 --> 01:02:04,470
The irony in this is that
the deception campaign
1041
01:02:04,471 --> 01:02:07,557
to create stigma was so successful
1042
01:02:07,558 --> 01:02:11,602
it actually inadvertently
created a new unforeseen problem.
1043
01:02:11,603 --> 01:02:15,273
{\an8}Stigma has been a tremendous problem
1044
01:02:15,274 --> 01:02:18,693
{\an8}that it's actually a national
security threat to the United States.
1045
01:02:18,694 --> 01:02:23,781
Other countries are not suffering
from the stigma that we are,
1046
01:02:23,782 --> 01:02:29,495
so we are already, as Americans,
at a disadvantage.
1047
01:02:29,496 --> 01:02:33,374
How can we expect
to maintain a strategic advantage
1048
01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:37,420
when 99.999% of all scientists here
in this country
1049
01:02:37,421 --> 01:02:39,255
don't even think it's real?
1050
01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:42,216
{\an8}Science moves forward on the basis
of exchanging information,
1051
01:02:42,217 --> 01:02:47,680
{\an8}and when it's all tied up and held down,
you just can't make progress.
1052
01:02:47,681 --> 01:02:52,518
You had information being locked away
that frankly could improve the lives
1053
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:58,108
of every human being on this planet
and change the trajectory for our species.
1054
01:02:59,985 --> 01:03:03,362
This information was
and is still being locked down
1055
01:03:03,363 --> 01:03:05,531
by the Legacy crash retrieval program.
1056
01:03:05,532 --> 01:03:09,535
Too much information resides
in different stove pipes.
1057
01:03:09,536 --> 01:03:13,706
It's controlled by different baronies
and different fiefdoms spread throughout
1058
01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:15,291
the National Security kingdom.
1059
01:03:15,292 --> 01:03:17,585
They each view information as power.
1060
01:03:17,586 --> 01:03:20,087
They're each reluctant
to share information.
1061
01:03:20,088 --> 01:03:22,840
They hoard it.
They like to trade it like a currency.
1062
01:03:22,841 --> 01:03:27,094
All of these things conspire to prevent us
1063
01:03:27,095 --> 01:03:31,390
from getting the big picture
and bringing the information together.
1064
01:03:31,391 --> 01:03:34,477
It's worth noting
that the Air Force didn't contribute,
1065
01:03:34,478 --> 01:03:41,442
uh, any or maybe just
a tiny number of, uh, reports of UAPs.
1066
01:03:41,443 --> 01:03:44,987
Notwithstanding the fact
that the Air Force controls
1067
01:03:44,988 --> 01:03:47,740
the North American
Aerospace Defense Command,
1068
01:03:47,741 --> 01:03:50,785
they're responsible
for space surveillance.
1069
01:03:50,786 --> 01:03:53,871
They have aircraft
with superior radar systems
1070
01:03:53,872 --> 01:03:56,457
operating in the same training ranges
1071
01:03:56,458 --> 01:03:59,669
where the Navy is seeing
and reporting these aircraft,
1072
01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:03,548
and yet they claim
they don't have evidence of this.
1073
01:04:03,549 --> 01:04:05,174
Imagine we had a situation
1074
01:04:05,175 --> 01:04:08,594
where we're saying there are
unidentified submarines
1075
01:04:08,595 --> 01:04:11,180
off the coast of the United States,
1076
01:04:11,181 --> 01:04:13,516
and the only reports we got
were from the Air Force
1077
01:04:13,517 --> 01:04:15,769
and the Navy had nothing to say about it.
1078
01:04:16,603 --> 01:04:19,313
[Jay] During the George
W. Bush administration,
1079
01:04:19,314 --> 01:04:24,110
the president routinely went down
to his ranch in Stephenville, Texas,
1080
01:04:24,111 --> 01:04:28,448
{\an8}and I see reporting of UAP activity
over the ranch.
1081
01:04:29,366 --> 01:04:34,620
{\an8}F-16s from a nearby Air Force base
were alerted to intercept this object.
1082
01:04:34,621 --> 01:04:36,956
People on the ground saw it.
1083
01:04:36,957 --> 01:04:41,419
So I go down and I start asking
questions, "Hey, what did you chase?"
1084
01:04:41,420 --> 01:04:43,421
"I'm acting on behalf
of the US government,
1085
01:04:43,422 --> 01:04:46,048
and we're trying
to understand what you saw."
1086
01:04:46,049 --> 01:04:49,760
And they look me in the eyes and said,
"Jay, we cannot tell you what we saw
1087
01:04:49,761 --> 01:04:53,431
because the OSI, Air Force
Office of Special Investigations,
1088
01:04:53,432 --> 01:04:56,142
came in here, had us sign
non-disclosure agreements."
1089
01:04:56,143 --> 01:04:58,185
"We did see something,
we did scramble on something,
1090
01:04:58,186 --> 01:04:59,562
but we can't talk to you about it."
1091
01:04:59,563 --> 01:05:04,025
Historically, every time
a military member had a UAP encounter,
1092
01:05:04,026 --> 01:05:06,611
it was very quickly swept under the rug,
1093
01:05:06,612 --> 01:05:08,446
and they were discouraged
from talking about it.
1094
01:05:08,447 --> 01:05:11,699
{\an8}They put a form down
as a non-disclosure form.
1095
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,910
{\an8}He came storming across to me.
He said, "Don't you ever say that again."
1096
01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,454
{\an8}"You don't ever speak of this."
1097
01:05:16,455 --> 01:05:17,913
{\an8}And it made it very clear
that it's something
1098
01:05:17,914 --> 01:05:21,417
{\an8}we shouldn't be talking about
and just keep our mouth shut.
1099
01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:24,045
{\an8}There was a culture of silence.
1100
01:05:24,046 --> 01:05:25,379
{\an8}I didn't talk to anybody about it,
1101
01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:28,799
{\an8}not my wife, not my colleagues,
not people I knew. They just shut up.
1102
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,552
{\an8}There's ramifications
if you were to divulge
1103
01:05:31,553 --> 01:05:33,347
{\an8}any of this information to anyone.
1104
01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:40,561
{\an8}We received an alarm
at our closest missile site.
1105
01:05:40,562 --> 01:05:46,942
There was an object directly above
that ICBM nuclear missile,
1106
01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,153
right on top of the blast door.
1107
01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:52,073
No noise, no sound whatsoever.
1108
01:05:52,074 --> 01:05:55,284
And it looked like
a mini sun sitting in the air.
1109
01:05:55,285 --> 01:05:58,245
It was the size
of a Super Walmart building.
1110
01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,581
{\an8}Not just a Walmart,
I mean a Super Walmart.
1111
01:06:00,582 --> 01:06:02,166
{\an8}This thing was gargantuan.
1112
01:06:02,167 --> 01:06:06,587
{\an8}And how it could suspend itself was just
completely unnatural to what we know of
1113
01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:08,548
{\an8}as anything that can fly or hover.
1114
01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:18,683
{\an8}The captain was looking,
just looking up with his mouth open.
1115
01:06:18,684 --> 01:06:21,143
{\an8}And I look up and I see
1116
01:06:21,144 --> 01:06:24,106
this object right over
the missile launch tube.
1117
01:06:26,692 --> 01:06:31,655
Multifaceted, matte black finish,
an oddly shaped diamond.
1118
01:06:32,489 --> 01:06:35,908
Absolutely silent, made no noise.
There was no means of propulsion.
1119
01:06:35,909 --> 01:06:39,705
Fifty feet up in the air,
sitting absolutely still.
1120
01:06:40,997 --> 01:06:45,584
And it was amazing,
and we kind of looked at one another.
1121
01:06:45,585 --> 01:06:49,255
And we were just human beings
witnessing something extraordinary.
1122
01:06:49,256 --> 01:06:54,427
And while we're watching this thing,
it went from dead still,
1123
01:06:54,428 --> 01:06:58,222
and it shot off toward the horizon
and was gone.
1124
01:06:58,223 --> 01:07:01,601
Absolutely instant acceleration.
1125
01:07:07,899 --> 01:07:12,070
{\an8}[Jacobs] We had 60 cameras so that
the engineers at Boeing and Douglas
1126
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,075
{\an8}could see every millisecond
of the ignition.
1127
01:07:18,285 --> 01:07:21,704
The missile in question
that we photographed was an Atlas D
1128
01:07:21,705 --> 01:07:26,584
carrying, as part of an experiment,
a dummy nuclear warhead.
1129
01:07:26,585 --> 01:07:29,628
As it was flying along,
the warhead, the chaff,
1130
01:07:29,629 --> 01:07:31,714
something else entered the frame.
[mimics object whooshing]
1131
01:07:31,715 --> 01:07:35,634
It shot a beam of light,
and it hit the warhead,
1132
01:07:35,635 --> 01:07:37,052
flew up like this,
1133
01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:39,430
shot another beam of light down
at the warhead, went like this,
1134
01:07:39,431 --> 01:07:42,516
shot under the beam of light
at the warhead, went under here,
1135
01:07:42,517 --> 01:07:45,895
shot a beam of light at the warhead,
and then flew out the way it had come in.
1136
01:07:45,896 --> 01:07:47,438
All the while, everything in our frame
1137
01:07:47,439 --> 01:07:49,982
was moving along
at 8,000 to 9,000 miles an hour.
1138
01:07:49,983 --> 01:07:52,359
There's nothing of ours
that could've done that.
1139
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,029
What could have done that?
1140
01:08:00,911 --> 01:08:05,372
{\an8}There was this red orange light
hovering above the front gate.
1141
01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:09,211
{\an8}It was about 40 feet in diameter,
sort of oval shape.
1142
01:08:12,088 --> 01:08:16,717
{\an8}And each missile was announcing
a guidance and control system failure.
1143
01:08:16,718 --> 01:08:22,473
{\an8}Our missiles were starting to go down,
so we had all ten of 'em go down.
1144
01:08:22,474 --> 01:08:29,523
Within the span of eight days,
we lost 20 nuclear missiles to UFOs.
1145
01:08:33,235 --> 01:08:35,986
{\an8}Vandenberg is home to the infrastructure
1146
01:08:35,987 --> 01:08:38,906
{\an8}that supports
our National Missile Defense project,
1147
01:08:38,907 --> 01:08:40,658
{\an8}the system that defends our country
1148
01:08:40,659 --> 01:08:43,452
{\an8}from incoming ballistic missiles
and nuclear weapons.
1149
01:08:43,453 --> 01:08:46,372
So it's one of the most
important bases we have.
1150
01:08:46,373 --> 01:08:48,457
On October 14th, 2003,
1151
01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:50,960
I showed up to work
at Vandenberg Air Force Base
1152
01:08:50,961 --> 01:08:55,297
and immediately everybody just
started to tell me about this UFO incident
1153
01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:57,424
that had happened earlier that morning.
1154
01:08:57,425 --> 01:09:00,761
{\an8}I reported for work, um,
at Vandenberg Air Force Base.
1155
01:09:00,762 --> 01:09:02,930
{\an8}We were given a briefing
earlier in the day.
1156
01:09:02,931 --> 01:09:06,225
{\an8}Some Boeing contractors
had witnessed a UAP incursion.
1157
01:09:06,226 --> 01:09:10,104
[Nuccetelli] Three Boeing contractors
had called in and reported
1158
01:09:10,105 --> 01:09:14,066
that a gigantic red square object
1159
01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:17,111
was floating over the launchpad
at low altitude.
1160
01:09:17,112 --> 01:09:21,156
It was making no noise,
it had no obvious signs of propulsion,
1161
01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:23,450
and it was just hovering silently.
1162
01:09:23,451 --> 01:09:26,161
It was a very serious
security breach of the area.
1163
01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:28,581
And we were told just to be vigilant
when we were out on our shift that night.
1164
01:09:28,582 --> 01:09:33,711
And I spent the most of the day driving
around the base looking for these objects.
1165
01:09:33,712 --> 01:09:36,505
Later that night,
myself and five security forces members,
1166
01:09:36,506 --> 01:09:39,091
we observed a bright light
approaching the base.
1167
01:09:39,092 --> 01:09:41,427
As it got closer,
the light was no longer visible,
1168
01:09:41,428 --> 01:09:44,972
and it was massive,
the size of a football field,
1169
01:09:44,973 --> 01:09:47,141
almost rectangular in shape.
1170
01:09:47,142 --> 01:09:48,350
It was just floating there.
1171
01:09:48,351 --> 01:09:52,897
No propulsion system, no windows.
It was matte black.
1172
01:09:52,898 --> 01:09:55,482
We observed it for another 45 seconds.
1173
01:09:55,483 --> 01:09:58,819
And then it shot off thousands
of miles an hour up the coast.
1174
01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:02,323
I talked to all the direct witnesses,
over a dozen people,
1175
01:10:02,324 --> 01:10:04,867
and even from
their different vantage points,
1176
01:10:04,868 --> 01:10:08,621
they all told the same story.
They all saw the same thing.
1177
01:10:08,622 --> 01:10:13,292
The UAP activity surrounding
nuclear weapons is not a historic issue.
1178
01:10:13,293 --> 01:10:15,253
It's an ongoing issue.
1179
01:10:16,171 --> 01:10:20,132
Despite the longstanding denial
by the United States Air Force,
1180
01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:25,346
we now have both former and current
very senior Air Force officials
1181
01:10:25,347 --> 01:10:29,433
stating for the record
that in fact the Air Force has had
1182
01:10:29,434 --> 01:10:32,895
a longstanding involvement in UAP.
1183
01:10:32,896 --> 01:10:37,650
{\an8}I served in the Air Force
for about 32 years,
1184
01:10:37,651 --> 01:10:41,153
and my last job in the Air Force
was chief of Air Force Intelligence,
1185
01:10:41,154 --> 01:10:44,365
prior to becoming director of
the Defense Intelligence Agency.
1186
01:10:44,366 --> 01:10:47,034
When I served in the Air Force,
1187
01:10:47,035 --> 01:10:54,083
uh, there was an active program
to track anomalous activities
1188
01:10:54,084 --> 01:10:57,503
that, uh, you know,
we couldn't otherwise explain.
1189
01:10:57,504 --> 01:11:04,094
Many of them connected with ranges
out west, notably, um, Area 51.
1190
01:11:07,764 --> 01:11:10,557
[Lue] As Congress learned more
about the Legacy Program,
1191
01:11:10,558 --> 01:11:15,563
they realized how powerful and influential
the defense contractors have become.
1192
01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:23,487
As we look at the actual structure
of the interaction between the government
1193
01:11:23,488 --> 01:11:26,323
and private industry in this UAP area,
1194
01:11:26,324 --> 01:11:29,159
over the years, it has morphed,
1195
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:34,748
transitioned into it being largely
in the aegis of the contractors.
1196
01:11:34,749 --> 01:11:36,458
If you do something within the government,
1197
01:11:36,459 --> 01:11:39,920
eventually it can be accessed
by Freedom of Information Act.
1198
01:11:39,921 --> 01:11:42,548
But if you do something
through contractors,
1199
01:11:42,549 --> 01:11:46,135
they're not available through
Freedom of Information Act.
1200
01:11:46,136 --> 01:11:50,806
I had been involved myself in projects
where we made sure that the material
1201
01:11:50,807 --> 01:11:54,226
was under contractor labels
1202
01:11:54,227 --> 01:11:58,063
so they couldn't be
accessed easily by the public.
1203
01:11:58,064 --> 01:12:01,316
But what happens with government,
you need continuity.
1204
01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,610
People move, people die, people retire.
1205
01:12:03,611 --> 01:12:06,905
So what winds up happening is
you have these Legacy efforts going on
1206
01:12:06,906 --> 01:12:10,117
in the government contractor side
involving UAP.
1207
01:12:10,118 --> 01:12:13,203
{\an8}And then I, the government official
in charge of this program, leave
1208
01:12:13,204 --> 01:12:16,081
{\an8}and someone else takes my place,
and that person might have
1209
01:12:16,082 --> 01:12:18,125
{\an8}a little bit of awareness
that this project existed.
1210
01:12:18,126 --> 01:12:19,877
But then they're replaced
by a third person
1211
01:12:19,878 --> 01:12:21,920
who has no idea that the project existed.
1212
01:12:21,921 --> 01:12:24,089
But the corporate entity that received
1213
01:12:24,090 --> 01:12:26,633
this technology
is still trying to develop it,
1214
01:12:26,634 --> 01:12:28,635
and so they begin to commercialize that.
1215
01:12:28,636 --> 01:12:31,472
Some of the stuff begins to seep out
in these great innovations
1216
01:12:31,473 --> 01:12:33,849
that some company's coming up with
and making money on,
1217
01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:36,685
and they claim it belongs to them
and it's proprietary.
1218
01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:40,355
Um, and the people in government
who know where it came from originally,
1219
01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:44,276
they're long gone and their successors
have no idea that it was there at all.
1220
01:12:44,277 --> 01:12:48,864
And so you can start to foresee
where you create in corporate hands
1221
01:12:48,865 --> 01:12:50,532
an extraordinary amount of power.
1222
01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:55,454
The real risk in transferring technology
that is not useful to us today
1223
01:12:55,455 --> 01:12:56,955
to a corporate entity.
1224
01:12:56,956 --> 01:12:58,707
Over decades, that corporate entity
1225
01:12:58,708 --> 01:13:01,376
comes to basically possess
and control access to it
1226
01:13:01,377 --> 01:13:04,671
for their own purposes,
not for the purposes of national security.
1227
01:13:04,672 --> 01:13:06,381
{\an8}In the councils of government,
1228
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:10,469
{\an8}we must guard against
the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
1229
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:15,974
whether sought or unsought
by the military industrial complex.
1230
01:13:15,975 --> 01:13:18,477
The potential for the disastrous rise
1231
01:13:18,478 --> 01:13:21,731
of misplaced power exists
and will persist.
1232
01:13:22,816 --> 01:13:25,400
We must never let
the weight of this combination
1233
01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:28,487
endanger our liberties
or democratic processes.
1234
01:13:28,488 --> 01:13:31,323
{\an8}The reason why our democracy is so strong
1235
01:13:31,324 --> 01:13:34,118
{\an8}because it's of the people
and by the people and for the people.
1236
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:38,288
{\an8}It's not acceptable to have secret parts
of government that no one ever sees.
1237
01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:40,040
{\an8}It would be unconscionable.
1238
01:13:40,041 --> 01:13:42,918
{\an8}It's against our constitution
and it's wrong.
1239
01:13:42,919 --> 01:13:46,588
{\an8}Non-human intelligence
is not government information,
1240
01:13:46,589 --> 01:13:50,552
{\an8}and the government should not be keeping
that knowledge from the people.
1241
01:13:54,389 --> 01:13:55,681
[Lue] Before he passed away,
1242
01:13:55,682 --> 01:13:58,642
I had the privilege
of seeing Senator Harry Reid
1243
01:13:58,643 --> 01:14:01,979
quite a few times
in his private residence.
1244
01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:06,567
He explained to me that he was
once provided information
1245
01:14:06,568 --> 01:14:09,236
on the Legacy Program but denied access.
1246
01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:10,988
He was incensed by that.
1247
01:14:10,989 --> 01:14:14,867
And when the opportunity
came to sponsor AATIP,
1248
01:14:14,868 --> 01:14:16,952
he jumped at the opportunity
1249
01:14:16,953 --> 01:14:19,496
in order to ensure
that Congress and the government
1250
01:14:19,497 --> 01:14:22,040
had visibility into this topic.
1251
01:14:22,041 --> 01:14:25,210
And frankly, we wouldn't be
where we are today
1252
01:14:25,211 --> 01:14:28,672
if it wasn't for the courage
of Senator Harry Reid.
1253
01:14:28,673 --> 01:14:32,385
{\an8}Why the federal government
all these years has covered up,
1254
01:14:33,469 --> 01:14:36,930
{\an8}put brake pads on everything, stopped it?
1255
01:14:36,931 --> 01:14:40,559
{\an8}I think it's very, very bad
for our country.
1256
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,229
Should we study this stuff?
The answer is yes.
1257
01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:46,399
And that's all this was about.
1258
01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:52,946
For decades, our government assumed
1259
01:14:52,947 --> 01:14:55,657
there must be different
exotic technologies responsible
1260
01:14:55,658 --> 01:14:57,576
for each of the observables,
1261
01:14:57,577 --> 01:15:01,622
but our scientists realized
one breakthrough technology
1262
01:15:01,623 --> 01:15:05,001
could actually be responsible
for everything.
1263
01:15:07,837 --> 01:15:10,589
With enough energy,
you could create a bubble,
1264
01:15:10,590 --> 01:15:12,716
a warp bubble around a spacecraft
1265
01:15:12,717 --> 01:15:15,177
that would have a different property
of space-time
1266
01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:17,639
inside the bubble
than on the outside of the bubble.
1267
01:15:19,724 --> 01:15:22,184
[Puthoff] This energy field
would completely isolate
1268
01:15:22,185 --> 01:15:23,937
the craft from the environment.
1269
01:15:26,397 --> 01:15:29,691
So you might ask then,
how does the craft actually move forward
1270
01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:31,235
within its bubble?
1271
01:15:31,236 --> 01:15:36,323
The craft inside the bubble has a way
of altering the bubble's properties
1272
01:15:36,324 --> 01:15:40,285
in order to change
its direction of motion.
1273
01:15:40,286 --> 01:15:44,122
[Puthoff] Such that you have
a downward press in front
1274
01:15:44,123 --> 01:15:47,000
and an upward press behind.
1275
01:15:47,001 --> 01:15:49,586
So it'd be like riding
space-time in the same way
1276
01:15:49,587 --> 01:15:52,090
that a surfer would ride
a wave in the ocean.
1277
01:15:54,842 --> 01:15:59,263
And we observe hypersonic velocity
and instantaneous acceleration,
1278
01:15:59,264 --> 01:16:03,183
and the reason is that time is moving
differently for people inside the bubble
1279
01:16:03,184 --> 01:16:05,018
versus people outside the bubble.
1280
01:16:05,019 --> 01:16:08,480
Whoever's inside the craft would
feel like they're just cruising along.
1281
01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:12,192
They wouldn't be feeling the effects of
what looks like speeds and accelerations
1282
01:16:12,193 --> 01:16:14,529
that would turn
a human being into pudding.
1283
01:16:16,739 --> 01:16:19,866
This one breakthrough
can be the key to interstellar travel,
1284
01:16:19,867 --> 01:16:22,452
{\an8}where you want to travel long distances
1285
01:16:22,453 --> 01:16:25,747
{\an8}without taking enormous amounts
of subjective time.
1286
01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:30,252
{\an8}We'd also have low observability
because the bubble acts as a barrier
1287
01:16:30,253 --> 01:16:32,462
between two space-time environments.
1288
01:16:32,463 --> 01:16:35,632
This would eliminate or conceal
most of the known signatures
1289
01:16:35,633 --> 01:16:37,175
of conventional technologies.
1290
01:16:37,176 --> 01:16:41,722
This is why radar would have difficulty
tracking a craft because the signal
1291
01:16:41,723 --> 01:16:45,684
from the radar would be distorted
by the energy field around the craft.
1292
01:16:45,685 --> 01:16:49,438
The radar signatures literally
just moved around the bubble
1293
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,982
and doesn't reflect back
to the radar emitter.
1294
01:16:51,983 --> 01:16:56,737
So it's not surprising
when someone takes a photo of a UAP,
1295
01:16:56,738 --> 01:16:59,614
they find they get
a fuzzy and distorted picture
1296
01:16:59,615 --> 01:17:03,286
because they're actually taking
a photo through a space-time barrier.
1297
01:17:06,914 --> 01:17:08,457
What's been happening recently
1298
01:17:08,458 --> 01:17:12,544
is that we have upgraded our
sensor systems on our fighter aircraft.
1299
01:17:12,545 --> 01:17:16,757
And these images that are now picked up
with our advanced sensor systems,
1300
01:17:16,758 --> 01:17:21,511
we can begin to see the actual structure
of the energy field around the craft,
1301
01:17:21,512 --> 01:17:24,140
which in the past
they would not have been able to do.
1302
01:17:25,767 --> 01:17:28,018
We also observed transmedium travel
1303
01:17:28,019 --> 01:17:31,980
because the craft is moving
within its own space-time,
1304
01:17:31,981 --> 01:17:36,861
and the outside environment through
which it's moving is inconsequential.
1305
01:17:37,445 --> 01:17:40,697
{\an8}This would allow a craft
to go seamlessly from space
1306
01:17:40,698 --> 01:17:44,117
through the atmosphere into the water.
1307
01:17:44,118 --> 01:17:48,163
And they could do so because
the warp bubble that surrounds them
1308
01:17:48,164 --> 01:17:51,875
shunts air molecules
or ocean water molecules
1309
01:17:51,876 --> 01:17:55,838
around the craft so that it could
move effortlessly through any medium.
1310
01:17:58,508 --> 01:18:02,260
We also observe anti-gravity
because the Earth's gravitational field
1311
01:18:02,261 --> 01:18:06,516
is no longer having any effect
on the craft inside its space-time bubble.
1312
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:09,684
{\an8}This is why a craft does not need say,
1313
01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:14,564
engines or wings or other aspects
that we would associate with a craft
1314
01:18:14,565 --> 01:18:16,650
that needs to fly in the atmosphere.
1315
01:18:16,651 --> 01:18:19,028
It's really disconnected
from the atmosphere.
1316
01:18:21,364 --> 01:18:24,116
{\an8}And the energy field
associated with these craft
1317
01:18:24,117 --> 01:18:26,701
causes a highly energetic
wave of radiation,
1318
01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:31,123
which is why people getting too close
to a UAP can experience biological effects
1319
01:18:31,124 --> 01:18:32,583
that are harmful to humans.
1320
01:18:35,253 --> 01:18:40,298
{\an8}Now that we understand that these craft
exist in a space-time environment
1321
01:18:40,299 --> 01:18:44,052
that's different from the exterior
space-time environment,
1322
01:18:44,053 --> 01:18:47,597
this can begin to explain
claimed observations by say
1323
01:18:47,598 --> 01:18:51,643
military people who have approached
and gotten into a craft
1324
01:18:51,644 --> 01:18:55,147
and find that time is running
at a different rate inside the craft
1325
01:18:55,148 --> 01:18:57,858
than time running outside the craft.
1326
01:18:57,859 --> 01:19:00,694
They think they're only there
for a few minutes,
1327
01:19:00,695 --> 01:19:03,989
when they come outside the craft,
some hours have gone by,
1328
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:06,783
so they feel like
they've got missing time.
1329
01:19:06,784 --> 01:19:11,621
Or similarly, with respect
to the size of the craft,
1330
01:19:11,622 --> 01:19:13,582
if someone is outside the craft
1331
01:19:13,583 --> 01:19:17,377
and it looks like
a small craft and they go inside,
1332
01:19:17,378 --> 01:19:20,046
it's the size of a football stadium.
1333
01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:24,092
Once you've realized
that space and time
1334
01:19:24,093 --> 01:19:27,179
are being engineered to be different
1335
01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:30,140
inside the craft
than they are outside the craft,
1336
01:19:30,141 --> 01:19:34,394
then these anomalies that people
report that sound completely absurd
1337
01:19:34,395 --> 01:19:36,772
can actually make sense.
1338
01:19:41,903 --> 01:19:45,948
The top issue is
what is their energy supply?
1339
01:19:46,324 --> 01:19:51,119
{\an8}Because the evidence for how much
energy they're using per unit time
1340
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,499
{\an8}so exceeds any kind of power levels
that we can generate.
1341
01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:58,919
{\an8}UAPs have exhibited propulsive
performance characteristics
1342
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:04,341
{\an8}that imply the generation
of 1,100 billion watts of power.
1343
01:20:04,342 --> 01:20:06,218
This is more than 100 times
1344
01:20:06,219 --> 01:20:09,888
the daily electrical utility power
generated in the US.
1345
01:20:09,889 --> 01:20:11,973
Let that sink in.
1346
01:20:11,974 --> 01:20:18,981
One hundred times the daily
power generation of the entire nation.
1347
01:20:21,192 --> 01:20:26,238
There are two prevailing hypotheses
for how UAPs create the energy
1348
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:28,657
that warps space-time around them,
1349
01:20:28,658 --> 01:20:34,079
and one is that the spacecraft
can produce, uh, its own bubble
1350
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,000
of vacuum energy around the craft,
which is also known as zero-point energy.
1351
01:20:39,001 --> 01:20:43,630
And the other one is that the craft
could be using quantum entanglement
1352
01:20:43,631 --> 01:20:47,260
to draw on a remote
distant source of energy.
1353
01:20:50,012 --> 01:20:53,057
{\an8}[Mellon] If we can understand
the technology that we're observing,
1354
01:20:54,016 --> 01:20:59,229
{\an8}it has so many
potentially beneficial impacts,
1355
01:20:59,230 --> 01:21:02,357
{\an8}including clean energy.
1356
01:21:02,358 --> 01:21:05,944
{\an8}We're seeing these craft
doing unbelievable things,
1357
01:21:05,945 --> 01:21:08,698
{\an8}and it's not combustion engineering.
1358
01:21:09,991 --> 01:21:16,037
[Lue] This is technology that
could replace oil, gas and coal
1359
01:21:16,038 --> 01:21:18,874
and protect our planet
for future generations.
1360
01:21:20,376 --> 01:21:21,501
How can we use these technologies
1361
01:21:21,502 --> 01:21:23,670
and all the capabilities
that come from it,
1362
01:21:23,671 --> 01:21:27,299
not to fight a war,
but to increase our standard of living,
1363
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,760
you know, to increase our ability
to get from place to place.
1364
01:21:30,761 --> 01:21:33,054
{\an8}We can talk more about teleportation,
1365
01:21:33,055 --> 01:21:36,641
{\an8}we could talk more about,
uh, hypersonic travel.
1366
01:21:36,642 --> 01:21:39,936
{\an8}Being able to take human beings
to the next evolutionary step,
1367
01:21:39,937 --> 01:21:41,022
which is the stars,
1368
01:21:41,188 --> 01:21:44,108
being able to explore
new star systems and planets.
1369
01:21:46,277 --> 01:21:47,527
On the other hand,
1370
01:21:47,528 --> 01:21:52,282
you'd have to weigh the consequences
of sharing, uh, with the world,
1371
01:21:52,283 --> 01:21:54,492
knowing that there are
bad actors out there.
1372
01:21:54,493 --> 01:21:57,329
If our adversaries would have
access to that same technologies,
1373
01:21:57,330 --> 01:22:02,042
they could flip that into some very,
very powerful weapons of mass destruction.
1374
01:22:02,043 --> 01:22:06,129
{\an8}You could put a nuclear bomb
inside one of these things and let it fly
1375
01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:09,674
{\an8}right through a building,
through concrete, through steel,
1376
01:22:09,675 --> 01:22:11,593
{\an8}wherever you want it,
anywhere in the world.
1377
01:22:11,594 --> 01:22:15,096
We want to talk about it publicly
and encourage folks to talk about it,
1378
01:22:15,097 --> 01:22:17,932
but while we're talking about it publicly,
1379
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:21,978
our adversaries are paying attention to
context clues to piece things together
1380
01:22:21,979 --> 01:22:24,481
about possible technologies
that we may have
1381
01:22:24,482 --> 01:22:26,316
that they don't have access to.
1382
01:22:26,317 --> 01:22:28,109
So it's a fine line.
1383
01:22:28,110 --> 01:22:32,072
I would opt for making
any new energy source
1384
01:22:32,073 --> 01:22:36,117
a humanitarian, uh, issue.
1385
01:22:36,118 --> 01:22:38,244
That it should be open.
1386
01:22:38,245 --> 01:22:41,539
And we know how to do that.
We've done that with nuclear power.
1387
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:46,670
{\an8}If the capabilities
that exist come to the forefront
1388
01:22:46,671 --> 01:22:49,714
{\an8}and they become known to the world,
1389
01:22:49,715 --> 01:22:53,886
{\an8}it might very well be that
it is to the benefit of mankind.
1390
01:23:00,685 --> 01:23:04,020
[Lue] While Congress had learned
a great deal about the Legacy Program,
1391
01:23:04,021 --> 01:23:08,358
whistleblowers were still afraid
to reveal the most secretive details
1392
01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:10,360
about the UAP technology
1393
01:23:10,361 --> 01:23:13,197
and non-human bodies
in the program's possession.
1394
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:19,577
We'd been interviewing folks
that would have had evidence of
1395
01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:24,333
or first-hand direct contact
with either materials
1396
01:23:24,458 --> 01:23:25,917
or a program itself.
1397
01:23:25,918 --> 01:23:28,879
{\an8}They have worked on craft
1398
01:23:29,463 --> 01:23:33,426
{\an8}of out of this world origin, but until...
1399
01:23:34,635 --> 01:23:39,431
they leak a video before they commit
suicide by shooting themselves
1400
01:23:39,432 --> 01:23:41,015
in the back of the head four times,
1401
01:23:41,016 --> 01:23:44,602
um, I just don't know
that that's going to get out.
1402
01:23:44,603 --> 01:23:49,399
Those people whose job it is
to make sure information doesn't get out
1403
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,778
will use whatever tool they can find
to try to convince people
1404
01:23:53,779 --> 01:23:55,238
they shouldn't come forward.
1405
01:23:55,239 --> 01:23:58,825
{\an8}We have people that have very high
clearances both today and in the past,
1406
01:23:58,826 --> 01:24:00,618
{\an8}who did really important work
for our government
1407
01:24:00,619 --> 01:24:02,620
{\an8}or continue to do
important work for the government,
1408
01:24:02,621 --> 01:24:04,289
{\an8}who have come forward with some claims
1409
01:24:04,290 --> 01:24:07,959
{\an8}about the US having in the past
recovered exotic materials,
1410
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,794
{\an8}and then we reverse
engineered those materials
1411
01:24:09,795 --> 01:24:13,256
{\an8}to make advances in our own
defenses and technologies.
1412
01:24:13,257 --> 01:24:17,177
{\an8}And that they signed agreements
that they would face jail time
1413
01:24:17,178 --> 01:24:19,554
{\an8}or in some cases some people claim
it would cost them their lives
1414
01:24:19,555 --> 01:24:21,431
{\an8}if they spoke out about these things.
1415
01:24:21,432 --> 01:24:23,266
{\an8}When I have
a whistleblower coming forward,
1416
01:24:23,267 --> 01:24:25,101
{\an8}telling me
that they're in fear of their life
1417
01:24:25,102 --> 01:24:29,022
{\an8}and that people have been hurt
protecting and hiding this information,
1418
01:24:29,023 --> 01:24:31,233
that gives me reason for concern.
1419
01:24:32,651 --> 01:24:34,194
[Lue] Determined to get to the truth,
1420
01:24:34,195 --> 01:24:39,325
it was Chris Mellon who led the charge
to help Congress draft unprecedented
1421
01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:40,910
UAP whistleblower protections.
1422
01:24:42,995 --> 01:24:44,996
And in December of 2022,
1423
01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:47,792
President Biden signed
the legislation into law.
1424
01:24:48,876 --> 01:24:51,169
{\an8}So even for those who signed NDAs,
1425
01:24:51,170 --> 01:24:54,256
{\an8}they still have a right and an opportunity
to talk about this
1426
01:24:54,381 --> 01:24:58,552
{\an8}in a very healthy and productive way
that informs the American public.
1427
01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:05,141
{\an8}Bombshell claims
from a military whistleblower,
1428
01:25:05,142 --> 01:25:09,395
{\an8}UFO wreckage recovered
by the US kept classified
1429
01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:12,482
{\an8}by a secret
government program for decades.
1430
01:25:12,483 --> 01:25:18,279
{\an8}The UAP task force was refused access
to, um, a broad crash retrieval program,
1431
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,367
{\an8}retrieving non-human
origin technical vehicles,
1432
01:25:22,368 --> 01:25:24,452
{\an8}call it spacecraft if you will.
1433
01:25:24,453 --> 01:25:29,290
{\an8}Non-human exotic origin vehicles
that have either landed or crashed.
1434
01:25:29,291 --> 01:25:32,710
I handpicked Dave Grusch
to be part of my UAP task force.
1435
01:25:32,711 --> 01:25:36,798
Everything that Dave uncovered is true,
but it barely scratches the surface.
1436
01:25:36,799 --> 01:25:41,553
{\an8}There's a sophisticated disinformation
campaign targeting the US populace,
1437
01:25:41,554 --> 01:25:44,180
{\an8}which is extremely unethical and immoral.
1438
01:25:44,181 --> 01:25:47,559
{\an8}Have people been killed
to protect the secret?
1439
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,855
{\an8}That was an ongoing concern.
1440
01:25:59,321 --> 01:26:04,409
Dave has been working
tirelessly behind the scenes
1441
01:26:04,410 --> 01:26:07,370
with Congress as well,
and we were really poking the bear.
1442
01:26:07,371 --> 01:26:08,746
We were making a lot of progress.
1443
01:26:08,747 --> 01:26:11,249
We were getting
a lot of information to Congress,
1444
01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:17,130
um, and it wasn't necessarily symbiotic
1445
01:26:17,131 --> 01:26:19,257
with the Legacy Program in their desires.
1446
01:26:19,258 --> 01:26:25,180
I remember one evening, uh, I was
sitting with my wife on the front porch,
1447
01:26:26,807 --> 01:26:28,057
and I received a call.
1448
01:26:28,058 --> 01:26:31,060
I recognized the voice
of one of a friend of mine,
1449
01:26:31,061 --> 01:26:34,939
and he happened to be
one of staffers on the Hill,
1450
01:26:34,940 --> 01:26:36,399
and he was very shooken up and said,
1451
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,569
"Listen, we had
a very interesting meeting on the Hill."
1452
01:26:39,570 --> 01:26:44,073
And an extremely, extremely
senior person in the US government
1453
01:26:44,074 --> 01:26:48,202
in the intelligence community
told Congress, for the record,
1454
01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,914
that there was a committee
of 27 individuals,
1455
01:26:50,915 --> 01:26:53,499
and I'm not going to go
into code names here,
1456
01:26:53,500 --> 01:26:58,212
that were mulling over the idea
of using extreme measures
1457
01:26:58,213 --> 01:27:01,049
to silence David and myself.
1458
01:27:01,050 --> 01:27:03,051
Kill us.
1459
01:27:03,052 --> 01:27:05,637
Now, people say,
"Oh, come on, that's conspiracy."
1460
01:27:05,638 --> 01:27:07,222
No, it's not.
1461
01:27:09,433 --> 01:27:11,059
We have done it before.
1462
01:27:11,060 --> 01:27:15,355
Under certain circumstances, we have
killed Americans without due process.
1463
01:27:15,356 --> 01:27:19,567
If they are a clear and present
national security threat,
1464
01:27:19,568 --> 01:27:21,611
we can kill Americans.
1465
01:27:21,612 --> 01:27:24,405
Now, it's not done very often, but we can.
1466
01:27:24,406 --> 01:27:27,868
Without a fair trial,
they just poof, disappear, right?
1467
01:27:28,619 --> 01:27:29,745
So here I am.
1468
01:27:31,246 --> 01:27:34,582
If I wind up in a month from now
floating in the Potomac somewhere,
1469
01:27:34,583 --> 01:27:38,837
you know what happened.
You know what happened. This is the truth.
1470
01:27:41,048 --> 01:27:43,759
[inhales deeply]
What else you want to know?
1471
01:27:51,558 --> 01:27:55,061
[Burchett] Last year, House Intelligence
Committee held a hearing on UAPs.
1472
01:27:55,062 --> 01:27:58,439
They brought in some Pentagon bureaucrats
who only had two answers
1473
01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:02,276
to the questions they were asked.
"I don't know," or "That's classified."
1474
01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:04,362
This hearing is going to be different.
1475
01:28:04,363 --> 01:28:07,156
This time, we had credible witnesses
1476
01:28:07,157 --> 01:28:10,910
testifying before Congress
and American people under oath.
1477
01:28:10,911 --> 01:28:14,956
This was a tremendously proud moment
for my colleagues and myself
1478
01:28:14,957 --> 01:28:18,918
to watch the fire that we started
continue to grow.
1479
01:28:18,919 --> 01:28:22,880
{\an8}[man] The subcommittee hearing
on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena,
1480
01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:24,632
or UAPs, will come to order.
1481
01:28:24,633 --> 01:28:27,969
The reality is the American public
deserves to know.
1482
01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:30,596
And you better be careful
about a government
1483
01:28:30,597 --> 01:28:32,181
that doesn't trust its people
1484
01:28:32,182 --> 01:28:34,559
because there's no telling
what they'll pull on you.
1485
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,686
{\an8}It's really important
that we're here in a bipartisan way
1486
01:28:36,687 --> 01:28:40,441
{\an8}to have this conversation,
which is about national security.
1487
01:28:40,983 --> 01:28:46,279
{\an8}The American public has a right to learn
about technologies of unknown origins,
1488
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,908
{\an8}non-human intelligence
and unexplainable phenomenon.
1489
01:28:50,576 --> 01:28:54,078
{\an8}You solemnly swear or affirm that
the testimony you're about to give
1490
01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:57,623
{\an8}is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
1491
01:28:57,624 --> 01:28:59,542
{\an8}- Yes.
- Yep.
1492
01:28:59,543 --> 01:29:02,962
{\an8}I was informed in the course
of my official duties
1493
01:29:02,963 --> 01:29:08,301
{\an8}of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval
and reverse engineering program.
1494
01:29:08,302 --> 01:29:13,347
{\an8}I am hopeful that my actions will
ultimately lead to a positive outcome
1495
01:29:13,348 --> 01:29:15,016
{\an8}of increased transparency.
1496
01:29:15,017 --> 01:29:18,686
{\an8}We were primarily seeing dark gray
or black cubes inside of a clear sphere,
1497
01:29:18,687 --> 01:29:22,648
{\an8}where the apex or tips of the cube
were touching the inside of that sphere.
1498
01:29:22,649 --> 01:29:24,650
{\an8}Since the events initially occurred,
1499
01:29:24,651 --> 01:29:26,861
{\an8}I've learned the objects
have been detected
1500
01:29:26,862 --> 01:29:29,322
{\an8}essentially where all operations,
1501
01:29:29,323 --> 01:29:31,783
{\an8}Navy operations are being
conducted across the world.
1502
01:29:31,784 --> 01:29:33,576
{\an8}These objects have been observed
1503
01:29:33,577 --> 01:29:36,162
{\an8}for over two weeks coming down
from over 80,000 feet,
1504
01:29:36,163 --> 01:29:37,997
{\an8}rapidly descending to 20,000 feet,
1505
01:29:37,998 --> 01:29:40,917
{\an8}hanging out for hours
and then going straight back up.
1506
01:29:40,918 --> 01:29:44,921
{\an8}It wasn't until 2009, until Jay Stratton
had contacted me to investigate.
1507
01:29:44,922 --> 01:29:48,382
{\an8}Unbeknownst to all, he was part
of the AATIP program in the Pentagon.
1508
01:29:48,383 --> 01:29:50,510
{\an8}Are you aware of any individuals
that are participating
1509
01:29:50,511 --> 01:29:53,429
{\an8}in reverse engineering programs
for non-terrestrial craft?
1510
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:54,764
{\an8}Personally, yes. Mm-hm.
1511
01:29:54,765 --> 01:29:57,141
{\an8}Do you believe that our government
is in possession of UAPs?
1512
01:29:57,142 --> 01:29:58,726
{\an8}I know the exact locations.
1513
01:29:58,727 --> 01:30:01,854
{\an8}I actually had the people
with the first-hand knowledge,
1514
01:30:01,855 --> 01:30:04,857
{\an8}um, provide a protected disclosure
to the inspector general.
1515
01:30:04,858 --> 01:30:08,236
{\an8}Do we have the bodies
of the pilots who piloted this craft?
1516
01:30:08,237 --> 01:30:11,322
{\an8}Biologics came with some
of these recoveries. Yeah.
1517
01:30:11,323 --> 01:30:14,200
{\an8}- Non-human biologics?
- Non-human.
1518
01:30:14,201 --> 01:30:18,454
{\an8}I was wondering if you could speak
a little bit about the interaction
1519
01:30:18,455 --> 01:30:20,289
{\an8}between defense contractor companies
1520
01:30:20,290 --> 01:30:23,042
{\an8}and any UAP-related
programs or activities.
1521
01:30:23,043 --> 01:30:25,586
{\an8}The contractors,
"the metal benders," so to speak,
1522
01:30:25,587 --> 01:30:30,091
{\an8}they're the ones actually doing specific
performance on government contracts.
1523
01:30:30,092 --> 01:30:32,218
{\an8}How does a program like that get funded?
1524
01:30:32,219 --> 01:30:33,594
{\an8}Misappropriation of funds.
1525
01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:35,263
{\an8}Does that mean that there is money
1526
01:30:35,264 --> 01:30:37,265
{\an8}in the budget
that is set to go to a program
1527
01:30:37,266 --> 01:30:38,933
{\an8}but it doesn't,
and it goes to something else?
1528
01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:40,518
{\an8}Yes, I have specific knowledge of that.
1529
01:30:40,519 --> 01:30:42,478
{\an8}[Andy Ogles] Mr. Graves and Fravor,
1530
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,773
{\an8}in the event that your encounters
had become hostile,
1531
01:30:45,774 --> 01:30:48,734
{\an8}would you have had
the capability to defend yourself?
1532
01:30:48,735 --> 01:30:52,321
{\an8}- Absolutely not, sir.
- No.
1533
01:30:52,322 --> 01:30:56,117
{\an8}What we experienced was well beyond
the material science and the capabilities
1534
01:30:56,118 --> 01:30:58,494
that we had at the time,
that we have currently
1535
01:30:58,495 --> 01:31:00,788
or we're going to have
in the next 20 years.
1536
01:31:00,789 --> 01:31:03,791
We have nothing that can stop in midair
and go the other direction,
1537
01:31:03,792 --> 01:31:05,251
nor do we have anything that can,
1538
01:31:05,252 --> 01:31:07,253
like in our situation,
come down from space,
1539
01:31:07,254 --> 01:31:08,713
hangout for three hours and go back up.
1540
01:31:08,714 --> 01:31:13,259
{\an8}Is it possible that these UAPs would be
probing our capabilities, yes or no?
1541
01:31:13,260 --> 01:31:14,844
{\an8}- Mr. Graves?
- Yes.
1542
01:31:14,845 --> 01:31:16,721
{\an8}- [Ogles] Grusch?
- Yes, definitely.
1543
01:31:16,722 --> 01:31:19,557
{\an8}Do you have any personal knowledge of
people who have been harmed or injured
1544
01:31:19,558 --> 01:31:23,603
{\an8}in efforts to cover up or conceal
these extraterrestrial technology?
1545
01:31:23,604 --> 01:31:24,855
{\an8}Yes.
1546
01:31:26,732 --> 01:31:27,733
{\an8}Personally.
1547
01:31:28,984 --> 01:31:32,111
{\an8}Anyone been murdered that you know of?
1548
01:31:32,112 --> 01:31:33,446
{\an8}I have to be careful.
1549
01:31:33,447 --> 01:31:36,616
{\an8}I directed people with that knowledge
to the appropriate authorities.
1550
01:31:36,617 --> 01:31:39,952
{\an8}There clearly is a threat
to the national security
1551
01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:42,038
{\an8}of the United States of America.
1552
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:43,706
{\an8}[Burchett] Brave witnesses here.
1553
01:31:43,707 --> 01:31:46,292
{\an8}They took an oath to uphold
the constitution of the United States
1554
01:31:46,293 --> 01:31:49,421
{\an8}and dadgummit, they're doing it,
and we owe them a debt of gratitude.
1555
01:31:55,052 --> 01:32:00,556
{\an8}On Capitol Hill today, a bipartisan call
for more government transparency on UFOs.
1556
01:32:00,557 --> 01:32:05,728
{\an8}One was asked about alien bodies,
two others talked about seeing UAPs.
1557
01:32:05,729 --> 01:32:09,815
{\an8}The US government operates
a UFO crash retrieval program
1558
01:32:09,816 --> 01:32:15,196
{\an8}and has a UFO and the remains
of "a non-human or non-human pilots
1559
01:32:15,197 --> 01:32:16,822
{\an8}in its possession."
1560
01:32:16,823 --> 01:32:21,035
[reporter] And when Dave Grusch
said the words non-human biologics,
1561
01:32:21,036 --> 01:32:22,536
there was an audible gasp.
1562
01:32:22,537 --> 01:32:27,375
I worked with David Grusch when we
both contributed to the UAP task force,
1563
01:32:27,376 --> 01:32:31,379
and everything he said under oath
to the Congress and what he put down
1564
01:32:31,380 --> 01:32:34,757
in his whistleblower complaint
is 100% true.
1565
01:32:34,758 --> 01:32:38,719
{\an8}A Pentagon report is detailing
a dramatic increase in UFO sightings.
1566
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,889
The Pentagon released its report
on UFO sightings today,
1567
01:32:41,890 --> 01:32:47,020
{\an8}saying an additional 366 sightings
have been investigated since 2021.
1568
01:32:47,562 --> 01:32:50,982
{\an8}Now the Defense Department is admitting
not just a couple of incidents,
1569
01:32:50,983 --> 01:32:52,525
hundreds of incidents,
1570
01:32:52,526 --> 01:32:55,361
scores of incidents
with multiple sensor systems,
1571
01:32:55,362 --> 01:32:56,862
multiple witnesses.
1572
01:32:56,863 --> 01:33:01,659
A NASA task force is holding
its first meeting on UFOs.
1573
01:33:01,660 --> 01:33:06,247
{\an8}NASA commissioned an independent
study team to examine
1574
01:33:06,248 --> 01:33:09,417
{\an8}unidentified anomalous phenomena,
1575
01:33:09,418 --> 01:33:14,130
{\an8}and this is the first time
that NASA has taken concrete action
1576
01:33:14,131 --> 01:33:16,841
{\an8}to seriously look into UAP.
1577
01:33:16,842 --> 01:33:20,177
{\an8}Are we alone?
Personally, I don't think we are.
1578
01:33:20,178 --> 01:33:23,681
{\an8}I wasn't prepared for the number
of incursions that I see.
1579
01:33:23,682 --> 01:33:28,769
{\an8}This merging capability
outstrips the operational framework
1580
01:33:28,770 --> 01:33:31,148
that we have to address it.
1581
01:33:38,864 --> 01:33:42,658
{\an8}[Lue] Since mankind first started
developing atomic energy,
1582
01:33:42,659 --> 01:33:45,536
there has been consistent UAP activity
1583
01:33:45,537 --> 01:33:49,833
at sites involved with
the atomic and nuclear process.
1584
01:33:52,336 --> 01:33:56,672
We have evolved more technically
in the last 80 years
1585
01:33:56,673 --> 01:34:00,177
than we have
in the previous 200,000 years.
1586
01:34:02,137 --> 01:34:06,015
And the uptick in UAP activity
has increased in line
1587
01:34:06,016 --> 01:34:08,810
with our advancement
of harnessing energy.
1588
01:34:10,854 --> 01:34:15,983
We realized we are on the path
to exploiting the energy levels needed
1589
01:34:15,984 --> 01:34:20,029
to warp space-time,
and UAP have been observing
1590
01:34:20,030 --> 01:34:23,449
and clearly been interested
in our rapid progress.
1591
01:34:23,450 --> 01:34:28,996
Despite developing
massively new technologies,
1592
01:34:28,997 --> 01:34:32,625
we don't see
an equivalent moral increase
1593
01:34:32,626 --> 01:34:35,836
in how we deal with each other.
1594
01:34:35,837 --> 01:34:38,756
{\an8}[Lue] We are still invading
sovereign nations.
1595
01:34:38,757 --> 01:34:43,135
{\an8}We're still threatening nuclear war
eighty years after dropping atomic bombs
1596
01:34:43,136 --> 01:34:46,932
that vaporized hundreds
of thousands of human beings.
1597
01:34:47,599 --> 01:34:50,477
Let's face it, we are a violent species.
1598
01:34:52,104 --> 01:34:55,815
So if I were a species
from somewhere else,
1599
01:34:55,816 --> 01:34:58,109
even if I were
a hidden species on the planet
1600
01:34:58,110 --> 01:35:01,112
who saw how we were coming up this curve
1601
01:35:01,113 --> 01:35:04,990
of, you know,
atomic energy and nuclear energy,
1602
01:35:04,991 --> 01:35:07,159
and then beginning to realize
1603
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,745
what it takes to do
their kind of technologies
1604
01:35:09,746 --> 01:35:14,166
with warping time
and warping space and so on,
1605
01:35:14,167 --> 01:35:18,671
I can imagine that could be seen
as a threat to another species
1606
01:35:18,672 --> 01:35:21,715
because they would recognize
that once it's only a matter of time
1607
01:35:21,716 --> 01:35:23,217
and they're going to be doing
what we're doing
1608
01:35:23,218 --> 01:35:24,593
and then we're gonna have
to deal with them.
1609
01:35:24,594 --> 01:35:28,222
So it doesn't surprise me
that their highest priority would be
1610
01:35:28,223 --> 01:35:32,268
to identify what threats they might face
1611
01:35:32,269 --> 01:35:34,228
to learn everything about them.
1612
01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:37,523
This pattern of activity
seems to me utterly logical.
1613
01:35:37,524 --> 01:35:42,695
It seems to me to be
an extension of the evolutionary process
1614
01:35:42,696 --> 01:35:45,573
that governs life
writ large as we know it,
1615
01:35:45,574 --> 01:35:47,868
which is self-preservation is number one.
1616
01:35:49,870 --> 01:35:54,999
{\an8}When I hear stories of either
nuclear weapons sites being shut down
1617
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,127
{\an8}or turned on, what that tells me
is something quite interesting.
1618
01:35:58,128 --> 01:36:01,755
First off is that something
has a technology capable of reaching
1619
01:36:01,756 --> 01:36:04,758
into our nuclear weapons systems
1620
01:36:04,759 --> 01:36:07,470
at a distance in ways
that we don't understand.
1621
01:36:07,471 --> 01:36:11,891
Okay, that's just capability.
But you ask the question about intent,
1622
01:36:11,892 --> 01:36:13,934
at the very least, what it tells me
1623
01:36:13,935 --> 01:36:18,314
is that they're showing us
what they can do to us at will
1624
01:36:18,315 --> 01:36:20,399
or with us or they can stop us.
1625
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:25,070
Now, they didn't stop us from
blowing something up in Japan.
1626
01:36:25,071 --> 01:36:27,114
They didn't stop the first of the bombs.
1627
01:36:27,115 --> 01:36:32,912
At some level, they're willing to let us
see the consequences of our actions.
1628
01:36:32,913 --> 01:36:36,081
But at another level,
they're willing to also show us that
1629
01:36:36,082 --> 01:36:41,003
"You might think that you could
hurt us one day, but you can't."
1630
01:36:41,004 --> 01:36:46,800
"We really can just reach in and stop you
or cause you to blow each other up."
1631
01:36:46,801 --> 01:36:48,969
"Because at the end of the day,
you're getting in our way,
1632
01:36:48,970 --> 01:36:51,388
and you're really starting to annoy us."
1633
01:36:51,389 --> 01:36:55,309
So even though it has been reported
that some of our fighter pilots
1634
01:36:55,310 --> 01:36:59,939
have chased these objects
and even fired missiles at them,
1635
01:36:59,940 --> 01:37:03,234
there has not been
some kind of strong negative retaliation.
1636
01:37:03,235 --> 01:37:06,737
So it'd be pretty easy to come
to the conclusion they're friendly,
1637
01:37:06,738 --> 01:37:09,907
and that's fine,
and there's no real threat there.
1638
01:37:09,908 --> 01:37:14,370
But the truth of the matter is, uh,
you have to take into account, well,
1639
01:37:14,371 --> 01:37:16,956
under what condition,
you know, that might change.
1640
01:37:16,957 --> 01:37:19,333
For example, if you have ants
1641
01:37:19,334 --> 01:37:22,461
at the back of your yard,
uh, they're not a threat to you,
1642
01:37:22,462 --> 01:37:26,423
so that's fine,
but if they come and invade your house,
1643
01:37:26,424 --> 01:37:28,092
suddenly they're a threat.
1644
01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:31,178
And so it could be
the same in this situation.
1645
01:37:31,179 --> 01:37:35,225
So at least within the defense
and intelligence industry,
1646
01:37:36,226 --> 01:37:41,063
we automatically assume the worst
because we want to be prepared
1647
01:37:41,064 --> 01:37:43,524
against the worst if it should happen.
1648
01:37:43,525 --> 01:37:47,695
There's a concern within the defense
and intelligence communities
1649
01:37:47,696 --> 01:37:51,699
that UAPs have been undertaking
long-term surveillance
1650
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:57,580
of human technological advancement
for the possibility that they may need
1651
01:37:57,581 --> 01:38:02,793
to intervene to prevent
a conflict between us and them.
1652
01:38:02,794 --> 01:38:07,423
{\an8}One of the reasons that I am
so ardent about this issue is
1653
01:38:07,424 --> 01:38:11,343
{\an8}because I think it has the potential
to change the perspective
1654
01:38:11,344 --> 01:38:16,515
and the outlook of world leaders
and the populations of those countries
1655
01:38:16,516 --> 01:38:22,896
to see more of what we have in common
and the challenges that we face together.
1656
01:38:22,897 --> 01:38:25,733
If we're gonna survive as a species,
1657
01:38:25,734 --> 01:38:31,113
we need unprecedented levels
of international collaboration.
1658
01:38:31,114 --> 01:38:36,785
{\an8}I occasionally think how quickly
our differences worldwide
1659
01:38:36,786 --> 01:38:41,916
{\an8}would vanish if we were facing
an alien threat from outside this world.
1660
01:38:59,809 --> 01:39:02,186
[Lue] Thomas Jefferson once said,
1661
01:39:02,187 --> 01:39:05,981
{\an8}"I'm not an advocate for frequent
changes in laws and constitutions."
1662
01:39:05,982 --> 01:39:09,318
{\an8}"But laws and institutions
must go hand in hand
1663
01:39:09,319 --> 01:39:11,695
with the progress of the human mind."
1664
01:39:11,696 --> 01:39:14,406
"As that becomes more developed,
more enlightened,
1665
01:39:14,407 --> 01:39:16,200
as new discoveries are made,
1666
01:39:16,201 --> 01:39:20,162
new truths discovered and manners
and opinions change."
1667
01:39:20,163 --> 01:39:22,247
"With the change of circumstances,
1668
01:39:22,248 --> 01:39:27,462
institutions must advance
also to keep pace with the times."
1669
01:39:28,963 --> 01:39:33,050
Our current Senate leadership feels
the same as our founding fathers.
1670
01:39:33,051 --> 01:39:35,761
And throughout the fall of 2023,
1671
01:39:35,762 --> 01:39:38,222
my colleagues and I
met with Senate leadership
1672
01:39:38,223 --> 01:39:40,516
to help give them clarity on the facts
1673
01:39:40,517 --> 01:39:45,313
as they fought for the most historic
UAP legislation we've ever had.
1674
01:39:46,106 --> 01:39:50,401
Never in the history of our nation
have we ever seen any type
1675
01:39:50,402 --> 01:39:55,280
of legislation regarding UAP
that is as detailed and specific
1676
01:39:55,281 --> 01:39:57,408
and as directive as this one.
1677
01:39:57,409 --> 01:40:01,578
{\an8}United States government has gathered
a great deal of information about UAPs
1678
01:40:01,579 --> 01:40:05,999
{\an8}over many decades, but has refused
to share it with the American people.
1679
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,962
{\an8}That is wrong, and additionally
it breeds mistrust.
1680
01:40:09,963 --> 01:40:14,174
{\an8}There is, we believe, information
and data that has been collected
1681
01:40:14,175 --> 01:40:16,468
{\an8}by more than just
the Department of Defense,
1682
01:40:16,469 --> 01:40:19,972
{\an8}but by other agencies of the
federal government as well.
1683
01:40:19,973 --> 01:40:23,434
Information on UAPs has also
been withheld from Congress,
1684
01:40:23,435 --> 01:40:25,728
which was a violation
of the laws requiring
1685
01:40:25,729 --> 01:40:27,896
full notification
to the legislative branch.
1686
01:40:27,897 --> 01:40:33,736
The bill I worked on with Senator Rounds
offered a common sense solution,
1687
01:40:33,737 --> 01:40:37,531
the Unidentified Anomalous
Phenomena Disclosure Act.
1688
01:40:37,532 --> 01:40:41,952
{\an8}This would be the most aggressive
measure that we've frankly ever seen
1689
01:40:41,953 --> 01:40:45,414
{\an8}in history when it comes to disclosure
about what the government knows
1690
01:40:45,415 --> 01:40:48,375
{\an8}and has, as it relates to UAPs.
1691
01:40:48,376 --> 01:40:51,712
The measure would also give
the federal government control
1692
01:40:51,713 --> 01:40:55,215
over all recovered technologies
of unknown origin
1693
01:40:55,216 --> 01:40:59,303
and biological evidence
of non-human intelligence.
1694
01:40:59,304 --> 01:41:03,640
Eminent domain allows the US government
to take control of anything
1695
01:41:03,641 --> 01:41:05,434
for national security reasons
1696
01:41:05,435 --> 01:41:07,728
or for the betterment
of the American people.
1697
01:41:07,729 --> 01:41:11,899
{\an8}A requirement as a transparency measure
for the government to obtain
1698
01:41:11,900 --> 01:41:17,237
{\an8}any recovered UAP material
or biological remains
1699
01:41:17,238 --> 01:41:21,158
{\an8}that may have been provided
to private entities in the past
1700
01:41:21,159 --> 01:41:25,871
and thereby hidden from Congress
and the American people.
1701
01:41:25,872 --> 01:41:30,959
The eminent domain section
was not crafted accidentally.
1702
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,380
It was designed to be put in there
clearly to lay out our expectations.
1703
01:41:35,381 --> 01:41:38,759
Contractors may have information
that they have held,
1704
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:43,013
or materials that they have held
over an extended period of time,
1705
01:41:43,014 --> 01:41:46,975
and this is our way of addressing it
and making it clear
1706
01:41:46,976 --> 01:41:50,270
that it should be delivered
in an appropriate fashion,
1707
01:41:50,271 --> 01:41:52,898
and that they need
to be negotiating with us now.
1708
01:41:52,899 --> 01:41:55,442
{\an8}Their bipartisan plan
for more transparency
1709
01:41:55,443 --> 01:41:58,111
{\an8}is getting some major pushback though.
1710
01:41:58,112 --> 01:42:02,533
{\an8}The, um, defense contractors
give money legally
1711
01:42:02,534 --> 01:42:07,663
{\an8}to a lot of my colleagues that provide
a great deal of the pushback on this.
1712
01:42:07,664 --> 01:42:11,333
There's a lot of money coming from
the defense industry to support
1713
01:42:11,334 --> 01:42:13,043
elected officials with their campaigns.
1714
01:42:13,044 --> 01:42:15,879
And then when the time comes for these
elected officials to try to get
1715
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,257
to the bottom of things,
they're compromised.
1716
01:42:18,258 --> 01:42:21,093
Something with the capabilities
of traveling light years,
1717
01:42:21,094 --> 01:42:26,139
not showing a heat signature
and the energy capabilities of that,
1718
01:42:26,140 --> 01:42:28,559
that would put the Pentagon
out of business.
1719
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:33,188
We wouldn't be fighting these
worthless wars overseas over oil
1720
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:35,232
and American boys and girls
wouldn't be dying.
1721
01:42:35,233 --> 01:42:37,235
It would put war pigs out of business.
1722
01:42:38,236 --> 01:42:40,988
[Lue] Unfortunately,
there was too much resistance
1723
01:42:40,989 --> 01:42:46,286
and the most historic elements of the
proposed legislation did not become law.
1724
01:42:47,579 --> 01:42:48,787
We've got a big mess on our hands.
1725
01:42:48,788 --> 01:42:51,290
We've got 80 years of lies and deception
1726
01:42:51,291 --> 01:42:53,750
that quite frankly ruined
a lot of people's lives,
1727
01:42:53,751 --> 01:42:56,962
and nobody wants
to take responsibility for that.
1728
01:42:56,963 --> 01:43:00,883
This is not an endeavor here
to go out and punish anyone.
1729
01:43:00,884 --> 01:43:03,969
But nonetheless, we would need to know
what they learnt, taxpayers paid for this.
1730
01:43:03,970 --> 01:43:07,306
And I think offering amnesty
is extremely important.
1731
01:43:07,307 --> 01:43:10,475
Let the past stay in the past,
then collectively move forward.
1732
01:43:10,476 --> 01:43:13,228
It's essential we keep
working on our proposal.
1733
01:43:13,229 --> 01:43:18,108
I'd like to just acknowledge
my dear friend, the late Harry Reid,
1734
01:43:18,109 --> 01:43:20,819
a mentor who cared
about this issue a great deal.
1735
01:43:20,820 --> 01:43:22,988
So he's looking down and smiling on us,
1736
01:43:22,989 --> 01:43:26,325
but he's also importuning us
to get the rest of this done,
1737
01:43:26,326 --> 01:43:29,161
which we will do everything
we can to make happen.
1738
01:43:29,162 --> 01:43:33,373
But where there was smoke, there was
a fire, and Congress is now aware of it.
1739
01:43:33,374 --> 01:43:38,922
And so what that allows us to do
is circle the wagons and try again.
1740
01:43:43,718 --> 01:43:46,179
[Nancy Mace]
Welcome to today's historic hearing.
1741
01:43:47,305 --> 01:43:50,432
There are certain individuals
who didn't want this hearing to happen
1742
01:43:50,433 --> 01:43:53,478
because they feared
what might be disclosed.
1743
01:43:55,021 --> 01:43:59,232
Do you solemnly swear to affirm that
the testimony that you are about to give
1744
01:43:59,233 --> 01:44:01,026
{\an8}is the truth, the whole truth,
1745
01:44:01,027 --> 01:44:03,862
{\an8}and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
1746
01:44:03,863 --> 01:44:05,405
{\an8}[all] I do.
1747
01:44:05,406 --> 01:44:09,201
{\an8}Has the government conducted secret
UAP crash retrieval programs? Yes or no?
1748
01:44:09,202 --> 01:44:10,410
{\an8}Yes.
1749
01:44:10,411 --> 01:44:13,830
{\an8}Were they designed to identify and
reverse engineer alien craft, yes or no?
1750
01:44:13,831 --> 01:44:15,666
{\an8}Yes.
1751
01:44:15,667 --> 01:44:18,293
{\an8}Excessive secrecy
has led to grave misdeeds
1752
01:44:18,294 --> 01:44:22,214
{\an8}against loyal civil servants,
military personnel, and the public
1753
01:44:22,215 --> 01:44:26,468
{\an8}all to hide the fact
that we are not alone in the cosmos.
1754
01:44:26,469 --> 01:44:29,012
{\an8}The US is in possession
of UAP technologies,
1755
01:44:29,013 --> 01:44:31,056
{\an8}as are some of our adversaries.
1756
01:44:31,057 --> 01:44:34,518
{\an8}We are in the midst
of a multi-decade secretive arms race.
1757
01:44:34,519 --> 01:44:37,896
{\an8}One funded
by misallocated taxpayer dollars
1758
01:44:37,897 --> 01:44:41,984
{\an8}and hidden from our elected
representatives and oversight bodies.
1759
01:44:41,985 --> 01:44:44,486
{\an8}Now that we know UAP
are interacting with humanity,
1760
01:44:44,487 --> 01:44:46,196
{\an8}we should not turn a blind eye,
1761
01:44:46,197 --> 01:44:49,533
{\an8}but instead boldly face
this new reality and learn from it.
1762
01:44:49,534 --> 01:44:52,619
{\an8}One of the most important actions
that can be taken relative to exposing
1763
01:44:52,620 --> 01:44:56,123
{\an8}the truth of UAP is to combat the stigma.
1764
01:44:56,124 --> 01:45:00,544
{\an8}NASA personnel stepping forward
and participating in such discussions
1765
01:45:00,545 --> 01:45:03,923
{\an8}would make a powerful statement
to the scientific community
1766
01:45:04,048 --> 01:45:07,843
{\an8}that UAP should be taken seriously
and researched accordingly.
1767
01:45:07,844 --> 01:45:09,594
{\an8}To the incoming administration
and Congress,
1768
01:45:09,595 --> 01:45:12,973
{\an8}I say to you, we need
immediate public transparency,
1769
01:45:12,974 --> 01:45:15,600
{\an8}and this hearing
is an important step on that journey.
1770
01:45:15,601 --> 01:45:17,102
{\an8}The truth is out there.
1771
01:45:17,103 --> 01:45:21,232
{\an8}We just need to be bold enough
and brave enough to face it.
1772
01:45:29,115 --> 01:45:31,491
America wants their pizzas
in 30 minutes or less,
1773
01:45:31,492 --> 01:45:33,326
and that's about our attention span.
1774
01:45:33,327 --> 01:45:37,205
And I think the Legacy Program is, um--
1775
01:45:37,206 --> 01:45:41,043
They think that America
will draw its attention somewhere else,
1776
01:45:41,044 --> 01:45:42,919
and I just don't think that's the case.
1777
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,379
I think we've let the fuse.
1778
01:45:44,380 --> 01:45:48,968
I think the American people
are ready to receive the truth.
1779
01:45:52,638 --> 01:45:56,558
[Puthoff] Sitting here
in a Senate building
1780
01:45:56,559 --> 01:46:00,187
recognizing what change
has been occurring,
1781
01:46:00,188 --> 01:46:03,607
I never thought I'd see
this day come frankly.
1782
01:46:03,608 --> 01:46:06,026
And now that I see it here,
1783
01:46:06,027 --> 01:46:09,654
I am unbelievably hopeful
1784
01:46:09,655 --> 01:46:13,450
that it's going to filter down
into our society
1785
01:46:13,451 --> 01:46:16,912
to where everyone realizes
that the human species
1786
01:46:16,913 --> 01:46:22,417
is actually in a melting pot
of many species throughout the galaxy.
1787
01:46:22,418 --> 01:46:25,003
What I expect to come out of that is,
1788
01:46:25,004 --> 01:46:28,799
first of all, a greater appreciation
of what it means to be a human.
1789
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:34,096
And to me, that kind of change
on the human character
1790
01:46:34,097 --> 01:46:38,642
is probably more significant
than what we can learn about
1791
01:46:38,643 --> 01:46:41,520
atoms and molecules
and propulsion systems.
1792
01:46:41,521 --> 01:46:43,814
My grandchildren are going to grow up
1793
01:46:43,815 --> 01:46:46,441
taking into account
and thinking about the fact
1794
01:46:46,442 --> 01:46:49,694
that the universe,
uh, [stutters] is full of life.
1795
01:46:49,695 --> 01:46:54,324
We're on the threshold
of an entirely different understanding
1796
01:46:54,325 --> 01:46:57,119
of the universe
and our place within it
1797
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:01,414
and technological opportunities
and possibilities
1798
01:47:01,415 --> 01:47:05,210
that were the stuff of science fiction
just a few years ago.
1799
01:47:05,211 --> 01:47:07,337
The people behind the Legacy Program
1800
01:47:07,338 --> 01:47:10,465
truly believe
that the secret is so intense
1801
01:47:10,466 --> 01:47:13,176
that they can't share it
with the American people.
1802
01:47:13,177 --> 01:47:17,097
There may be aspects of this
that are so intense they can't share it.
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However, I think the basic fact
that we are not alone in the universe,
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we can share that
with the American people.
1805
01:47:22,562 --> 01:47:24,062
We can handle it at this point.
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Hopefully one day, the American people
will learn the bigger story
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and how it impacts us all.
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I want to tell the American people
what I know,
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01:47:32,613 --> 01:47:36,533
but I can't because a vast majority
of it remains highly classified.
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01:47:36,534 --> 01:47:39,661
I feel tremendous pressure
to share what I can
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01:47:39,662 --> 01:47:41,997
because I know there will come a time
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where we all wish
we had done things differently.
1813
01:47:46,127 --> 01:47:50,630
That moment is imminent,
and when that moment comes,
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01:47:50,631 --> 01:47:54,677
I know people will say, "I wish
somebody would've told me sooner."
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Remember, as far as we've come,
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we are still only just beginning
the greatest paradigm shift
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01:48:05,104 --> 01:48:09,567
in human history,
the age of disclosure.