1 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,959 John Derek Worboys, I'm arresting you on suspicion 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,959 of six counts of sexual assault between 2005 and 2008. 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,959 They won't be asking you... to testify. 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,959 I wanted to look the bastard in the eye 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,959 and tell everybody what he did to me. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,159 I wanted to have my moment in court. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,959 Mr Worboys handed you a glass of something bubbly. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,959 And you drank that, too. Because he forced me to. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,959 He's like a professional conman. 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,959 You continue to constitute a significant risk of serious harm. 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,959 I therefore pass down on you 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,960 a minimum custodial term of eight years. 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,959 I-I was told that the Crown Prosecution Service 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,959 had looked at all the evidence. 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,959 No, I can tell you that the CPS 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,159 did not review the evidence in your case. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,639 They lied to me. 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,959 Why didn't she flag, Dave? 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,959 Seems it wasn't ever recorded as a crime. 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,639 It was only logged as a crime-related incident. 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,959 You know, I've been looking into bringing a complaint 22 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,959 against the police for the way they treated us. 23 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:11,959 LAILA: So, you're asking, do I wanna sue the police with you? 24 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:14,799 My advice would be to pursue this under the Human Rights Act. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,959 The only problem is that it's never been done before. 26 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:20,959 Eight years did spook me a bit. Yeah, he's not getting out. 27 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:22,959 After eight years, he could apply for parole. 28 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,960 In order to do that, he'd first have to admit to what he's done. 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,999 SUPERVISOR: So, this is where you'll be working. 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,959 Everybody, this is Carrie Simonds, 31 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:42,959 who's joining the Comms team today. 32 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:43,959 Hey. Hi. MAN: Hello. 33 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:47,959 Oh, it's actually Symonds. Oh, sorry. 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,639 And this is Cherry, your new neighbour. 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,959 Hi. Hi. 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,960 I'll leave you to it. 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,960 CARRIE CLEARS THROAT 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,959 Carrie? Sorry. Yeah. 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,959 I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,960 but... aren't you the girl who was a victim of that black cab guy? 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,480 The rapist. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,319 Ooh, er... not sure about "victim", 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,640 but, erm, yes, I did do some interviews about it. 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,959 I understand a lot of women came forward after that, 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,000 but... you have sort of put yourself out there now as, like, "that" girl. 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,959 Er, well, I... 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,959 I learnt a lot from that experience, 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,960 about how, you know, the media operates, so... 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,960 ...hopefully, I'm a bit savvier now. 50 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,640 INTERCOM BUZZES 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,959 So, I've printed you both a document 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,959 of all the materials we've received from the Met. 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,959 And as predicted, they were mightily pissed off 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,959 at having to hand it over, 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,959 and they even said that they had no desire, 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,959 in the current financial climate, "to spend disproportionate sums 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,959 "defending a claim that was many years out of date 58 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,959 "and, legally, had no prospect of success". 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,319 Well, they can fuck right off. LAILA CHUCKLES 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,959 Couldn't have said it any better myself. 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,959 OK, so, as predicted, the IPCC investigations 62 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,959 into both of your cases find the complaints are not substantiated, 63 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,959 and the most serious disciplinary action that they recommended 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,959 was a... a few written warnings. 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,160 What about telling me that the CPS had reviewed my case when it hadn't? 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,960 A "genuine mistake". 67 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,959 OK, and what about not telling me that they found the drugs 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,959 that he used to sedate me in my bloodstream? 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,959 They actually do find that largely substantiated, 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,959 but they... they do want to note that the investigating officer 71 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,639 at the time had, erm... a "heavy workload". 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,799 What? 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,959 We now know that they didn't search 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,959 Worboys' house when he was first arrested. 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,959 I was told that they did 76 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,959 and that they didn't find anything incriminating. 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,959 But, actually, the most incredible revelation 78 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,960 is of the CCTV footage of you leaving the club that night. 79 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:29,959 LAILA EXHALES 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,479 They said that there was no sign of me on the footage. 81 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,959 That's because they were looking at the wrong night - 82 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,639 the 27th, not the 26th. 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,959 If they had the correct date, 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,959 they would have seen that you left the club at 2am, 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,959 and they would have known that Worboys was lying 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,959 when he said he picked you up at 3:50. 87 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,959 The initial investigation didn't even analyse 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,959 your mobile phone data, which would have confirmed 89 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,960 when you got into his cab and where he took you. 90 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,960 It's like a joke. 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,959 I'm guessing it doesn't get any funnier for me? 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,959 No. Almost all the allegations in your case, they say, are not proven. 93 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,959 You saying that you weren't believed - not proven. 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,959 Being told not to show emotion in your interview... 95 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,959 Well, DC Stephens even denies ever saying that to you, 96 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,959 so it's your word against his. 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,799 The only concession is that they agree that the guy living 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,960 in your old flat, Billy Houghton, should have been interviewed. 99 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,959 And to cap it all off, they've released a statement 100 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,959 saying that they have improved training and changed procedures 101 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,959 so that none of this will ever happen again. 102 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,959 It's what they always do. 103 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,959 So... what do we do? 104 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,959 Because, to be honest, this is only making me even more determined. 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,799 Yeah, same. 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,159 We need somebody who's going to take this on for us in court. 107 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,799 And I have somebody in mind. 108 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,960 A really top barrister. 109 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,960 I've met this... guy. 110 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,480 Tell me more. 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,959 It was an arranged thing. Erm, my mum insisted on it. 112 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,959 You know, I actually think she would have kicked me out onto the street 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,959 if I hadn't agreed to it. 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,960 What's his name? What's he like? He's... 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,959 ...quite nice, actually. 116 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Arham. 117 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,959 You know, good Muslim boy. 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,479 He wore cream chinos. 119 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Good-looking? 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Not bad. 121 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:24,960 You gonna see him again? 122 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Don't know. 123 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,800 I just keep thinking... 124 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,960 ...what's the point? 125 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,959 I haven't even told my family about what happened to me. 126 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,320 I certainly... 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,960 I couldn't tell him. 128 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,960 It's like... 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,960 I feel like... 130 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,960 I feel like nobody would want me... 131 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:00,960 ...if they knew. 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 You know, at some point, you're gonna have to talk about it... 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,960 ...and not just with me. 134 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,959 You know, I tried that with Gav at first, 135 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,320 keeping it all buried, worrying about what he'd think of me. 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,960 It's exhausting. 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,960 You know, I couldn't do it any more. 138 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,959 I realised I had to come to terms with what happened to me, 139 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,799 and so I thought, "Fuck it, I'm gonna tell you, 140 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,960 "whether you wanna hear it or not, for my sake." 141 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,959 Mm. Gav's not perfect. 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,000 Sure he'd say I'm not easy to live with either, but... 143 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,960 But, to be fair, since I told him, he's been nothing but supportive. 144 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,960 So... maybe give Cream Chinos a chance. 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:53,960 SOFTLY: Yeah. 146 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,959 WORBOYS: You see, the problem I've got 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,959 with this programme you're talking about 148 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,959 is I would have to tell the truth. 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,959 I can't just sit here and tell you lies, sir. 150 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,959 PSYCHOLOGIST: The last thing we'd want in a treatment programme 151 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,960 is for you to lie. 152 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,959 No, it's... it's just not in me. 153 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,319 So, why don't we begin with you talking about the offences 154 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,959 for which you've been convicted? 155 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,959 Well, that's the problem, because I didn't do anything. 156 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 I'm an innocent man. 157 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,959 And that's your position? 158 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,959 As far as I'm concerned, any encounters were consensual. 159 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,960 It was all just a bit of harmless fun. 160 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,159 And as for drugging them? 161 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,320 Well, I mean, it's... that's complete nonsense. 162 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 See, I shouldn't be in here, and that's the truth. 163 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,799 I note you no longer call yourself John Worboys. 164 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,320 You now call yourself John Radford. Why is that? 165 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,960 It's very simple. 166 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,960 The name "Worboys" is dirt, innit? 167 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,159 Because of what those women said about me, 168 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,959 because of their false accusations. 169 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,960 I can't even call myself by my own name any more. 170 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,960 How is that fair? 171 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,319 It's really late. 172 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,959 Why not give it a rest and pick it up again tomorrow, eh? 173 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,959 That police officer who first looked into my case, 174 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,799 DC Stephens, I kept asking him 175 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,959 to talk to Billy Houghton, the guy that lived in my old flat, 176 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,959 because he saw Worboys that night. 177 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:30,999 Stephens says here that I was 178 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,159 "reluctant" for him to talk to Billy. 179 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,959 What an arsehole! That's such absolute bollocks! 180 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,639 It says here he has never had any specialist training 181 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,159 for investigations into rape or sexual assault 182 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,959 and, in fact, no training at all since 1989. 183 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Oh, God. 184 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,960 I'll see you in the morning. 185 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,960 Don't be too long. 186 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,800 WOMAN: Come! 187 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,960 Ladies, can I introduce you to Phillippa Kaufmann? 188 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,959 Phillippa, this is Sarah, and this is Laila. 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,959 Very pleased to meet you. Welcome. LAILA: Hi. 190 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,319 Now, we're about to go in with the police's lawyers 191 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,479 for what's called a structured settlement discussion. 192 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,959 Basically, can we resolve this without going to court? 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,159 Is there a non-financial remedy we can explore, 194 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,799 such as a public apology to you? 195 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,959 Can I just ask, is that a possibility, 196 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,959 a public apology from them? 197 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,959 Not a cat's chance in hell, I'm afraid, but... 198 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,959 it may help our case later on if we can at least say we tried. 199 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,960 Right, ladies, follow me. 200 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,960 DOOR OPENS 201 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,959 29 women were attacked by Worboys after he attacked me, 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,960 before he was finally arrested. 203 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,960 29. 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,960 Those are all individual lives messed up that didn't need to be. 205 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,959 And those are just... erm, the women that we know about. 206 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,959 I mean, there are almost certainly more 207 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,960 who never reported what happened to them. 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,959 I was disbelieved and humiliated, 209 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,959 and I don't believe the police have sufficiently been held to account. 210 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,999 I think the impact of what the police did to me 211 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,960 was worse than the actual rape itself. 212 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,959 Like Laila, I continue to live with a sense of guilt 213 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,960 for all the women that came after me. 214 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,960 Even though I know it's not my fault... 215 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,479 ...I ask myself, could I have done more to stop him? 216 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,959 I'm shocked that you won't just admit liability. 217 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,959 The fact that you are fighting this 218 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,960 makes me feel like you still don't believe me. 219 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:00,319 The police's position is that, whilst we are, of course, 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,960 sympathetic to the undoubted trauma you have both suffered... 221 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,959 ...we do not admit any liability on the part of the Metropolitan Police. 222 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,959 We believe the investigation into the crimes of John Worboys 223 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,959 was reasonable, ultimately successful. 224 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,480 S... Successful? 225 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,959 It took you five years to work out these attacks were linked. 226 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,319 Year after year, he was left to roam the streets 227 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,960 and attack other women when he should have been locked up! 228 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,159 What we would like to do, however, is to invite you both to attend 229 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,960 a police training programme, present your experiences to the attendees. 230 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,479 The hope is that this would be educational 231 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,960 and beneficial to both sides. 232 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,960 Right, I think we're done here, ladies, Harriet. 233 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:50,959 Thank you. 234 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,960 Fucking training programme?! Shh. 235 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,959 DOOR CLOSES 236 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,799 OK, now you can talk. They've got two hopes of us talking 237 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,799 to this load of trainee policemen about what happened to us - 238 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,959 Bob Hope and no fucking hope, and you can tell them that from me. 239 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,960 What a patronising load of old bullshit. 240 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Ladies, I think we're gonna get along just fine. 241 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,480 SARAH: Where's DC Stephens? 242 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,959 It appears the Met are not going to call him to give evidence. What? 243 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,959 I suspect that they think he'll be so undermining to their case 244 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,479 that they want to keep him away at all costs. 245 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,959 Now, the problem is, if we call him, 246 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,959 we won't be able to cross-examine him 247 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,959 because, in cases like this, that's the rule. 248 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,000 So, he won't have to give an account of himself in court? 249 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,960 I'm sorry. 250 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,959 NBV told us that even after she'd been sick in the toilets, 251 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,959 she still carried on drinking. 252 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,959 DEFENCE: Did this have, er, an impact on your assessment of NBV? 253 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,999 The CCTV footage of her falling over at the campus 254 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,959 was entirely consistent with the actions of someone 255 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,799 who had had too much to drink that night. 256 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,960 I thought the whole thing was odd. 257 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,959 I thought it was odd that an educated girl 258 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,959 would accept a drink from a stranger in those circumstances. 259 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,959 DSD told us she had taken some cocaine with her friends, 260 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,959 and this showed up subsequently in her blood tests. 261 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,639 Had she also drunk alcohol that evening 262 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,999 before getting into Worboys' cab? 263 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,959 Well, her friends told us they put her into the cab 264 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,960 after their night out because she was so out of it. 265 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,959 My conclusion was that DSD had not sustained 266 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 any specific psychiatric injury as a consequence of the rape. 267 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,639 She had, however, suffered a depressive episode 268 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,960 as a consequence of how she had been dealt with by the police. 269 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,959 Well, following the assault, NBV developed symptoms 270 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,959 of post-traumatic stress disorder, including nightmares, 271 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,959 intrusive imagery, flashbacks, 272 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,959 avoidance, anxiety and depression, 273 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,639 poor concentration and social withdrawal. 274 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,959 She still suffers from moderate to severe symptoms. 275 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,959 She can be tearful and experiences mood swings. 276 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,959 And she suffers from continuing sexual aversion 277 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,320 and a lack of sexual enjoyment. 278 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,959 Are you aware, Inspector Underwood, 279 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,959 of a guide which outlines the Met's standard operating procedures 280 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,960 for investigative techniques in rape and sexual assault cases? 281 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,959 I am aware of it, yes. 282 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,319 It lays out detailed steps and considerations to be followed, 283 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,959 from a starting point of treating the victim's account as truthful, 284 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,960 does it not? 285 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:20,960 I don't know. 286 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,959 Why not, may I ask? 287 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,319 I just can't recall it in any detail. 288 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,479 As a member of one of the Met's Sapphire teams, 289 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,959 which are specialist rape and sexual assault investigation units, 290 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,959 I find that quite an extraordinary thing for you to say. 291 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,959 Well, in my opinion, it's not something I consider practical 292 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,960 to apply to each and every case. 293 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,960 To this case? 294 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,959 I think these policies are fine in theory... 295 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,959 but they're not always applicable to day-to-day policing. 296 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Then why have they been set out by the Met as their guidelines? 297 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,799 I think they have been created purely 298 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,960 to protect the police from legal challenges. 299 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,959 If a case is not classified as a serious sexual assault, 300 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,959 then details of the investigation are not entered 301 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,160 into the Criminal Intelligence Computer Database, are they? 302 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,959 No. Meaning no closing report would need to be done, would it? 303 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,959 No. Is that a good thing? 304 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,959 Honestly? 305 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,480 An opportunity to not have to do one would be taken gladly. 306 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,959 Was there a drive from your superiors at Borough Management 307 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,960 to disprove allegations of rape and sexual assault? 308 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,959 Yes. Why was that? 309 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,959 Because if an allegation can be legally disproved, 310 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,959 then it would improve detection rates. 311 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,959 So junior officers were effectively encouraged 312 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,959 not to pursue allegations of rape and sexual assault 313 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,959 and instead to focus on other crimes such as burglary, 314 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,960 which were easier to clear up. Is that right? 315 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Broadly speaking, yes. 316 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:04,959 Coming now, DC Coldham, specifically to the case NBV. 317 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,959 Even though her case bore all the hallmarks 318 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,319 of a drug-facilitated sexual assault, 319 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,959 she was not treated as such, was she? 320 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,639 Personally, I believed her account. 321 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,799 But I knew there was no prospect of the case being reopened 322 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,959 once the forensic and toxicology results had come back 323 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,959 as inconclusive. 324 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,959 Even though there were still many important leads 325 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,959 still to be followed up? 326 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,959 Yes. So, under pressure from on high, 327 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,159 her case was not recorded as a serious sexual assault, 328 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,959 supervision from more senior officers did not occur, 329 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,479 and her case was not entered into the data bases? 330 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,799 No. 331 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,959 And the case was cleared up in three months. 332 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,959 No case closure report, 333 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,959 no detailed report entered into the system. 334 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,959 And the Borough's clear-up rate was thereby improved 335 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,960 since the case was not left as unsolved. 336 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,960 Like I say, that... that was the situation at the time. 337 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,479 Thanks. I can't believe you're still waiting on a judgment. 338 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,960 This one'll be born before we hear. 339 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,479 So, how's life, then? 340 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,319 I'll be honest, things are not great with Gav. 341 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,959 Hm? It's me. It's... 342 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,160 I push him away, I know I do. 343 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,959 I just find it so hard to really... 344 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,319 let go emotionally, you know. 345 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,959 He's always been pretty understanding, hasn't he? 346 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Yeah, and he still is. 347 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960 Sex is shit. 348 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,960 I hate being naked. 349 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,960 I actually hate opening my fucking legs, to be honest with you. 350 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,959 Must be like going to bed with a slab of marble. 351 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,959 At least he got you pregnant. 352 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,960 Yeah, I got a bit drunk that night, which helped. 353 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Let's just say it wasn't entirely planned. 354 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,159 CONGREGATION: # Stand up 355 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,959 ♪ Stand up for Jesus 356 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,959 ♪ The strife will not be long 357 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,959 ♪ This day, the noise of battle 358 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,959 ♪ The next, the victor's song 359 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,959 ♪ To Him who over-cometh 360 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,959 ♪ A crown of life shall be 361 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,959 ♪ He with the King of glory 362 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,799 ♪ Shall reign eternally. ♪ 363 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Let us pray. 364 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,159 Lord, comfort and heal all those who suffer in body, mind or spirit. 365 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,959 Give them courage and hope in their troubles, 366 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,959 and bring them joy and salvation. 367 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,959 In your mercy... ALL: Lord, hear our prayer. 368 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,799 That those who face difficult times will find the strength to prevail. 369 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,959 In your mercy... 370 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,959 CONGREGATION: Lord, hear our prayer. Lord, hear our prayer. 371 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,639 For the grace this week, 372 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,959 to live by faith in every circumstance of life. 373 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,479 In your mercy... 374 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 CONGREGATION: Lord, hear our prayer. Lord, hear our prayer. 375 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,319 Hello? Hello, Sarah? 376 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,959 SARAH: 'Hi.' Hey. What's happening? 377 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,959 I just got off the phone to Harriet. 378 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,959 The judge said there was clear evidence 379 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,159 that I had suffered... significant harm 380 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,479 over a long period, and with you... 381 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,959 but for the failures of the police, you wouldn't have been raped at all. 382 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,960 GASPS 383 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,479 'We won.' No way. 384 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,960 We won! 385 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,960 They've awarded me 22 grand, and you 19. 386 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,959 Fuck! 387 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,959 'I'm, like, I'm...' 388 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,959 I can't... I'm... 389 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,479 Harriet said she's sure they'll appeal, but, erm... 390 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,960 we should enjoy today. 391 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,479 I'm glad you picked up. 392 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,639 So, tell me, did he ask the question? 393 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,959 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I said yeah! 394 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,959 Laila, I'm so happy for you. 395 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,959 Yeah, Mum and Dad are throwing us a party, it's... 396 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,959 Right, well, go and enjoy it, lovely. 397 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,639 'We'll go for a coffee soon.' Yeah. 398 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,999 Yeah, and I can meet your new baby. 'Yeah.' 399 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,959 All right, I'll... I'll see you soon, yeah? 400 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,160 'OK. See you soon.' 401 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,959 There you are. 402 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,959 You OK? 403 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,959 Yeah. 404 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,320 They're happy tears. THEY LAUGH 405 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,960 They're all waiting in the garden. 406 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,320 OK. 407 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Just one sec. Mm-hm. 408 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,959 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 409 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 Welcome, son. Thank you so much. 410 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,959 SALMA SPEAKS IN URDU Thank you. Thank you. 411 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,959 You! Oh! 412 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,959 Stop. I love you. 413 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,959 Love you too. 414 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,959 CHATTER DROWNED BY MUSIC 415 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,959 This is crazy! Gonna make me cry now. 416 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,999 Stop! You're so silly! 417 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,959 I'm so happy for you! 418 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,960 CHATTER DROWNED OUT BY MUSIC 419 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,959 I am Dr Craissati, 420 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,959 a consultant clinical and forensic psychologist, 421 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,960 and I'm here, Mr Radford, to review your progress. 422 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,960 OK. 423 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Well, I told the other psychologist that I met recently that... 424 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,160 ...the time had come for me to change my stance. 425 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,959 I've withdrawn my application 426 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,959 with the Criminal Cases Review Commission 427 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,959 to overturn my convictions, 428 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,960 and I've decided to accept full responsibility for all my offences. 429 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Can I ask what has brought about this change of heart? 430 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,960 Him. 431 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,959 Up there. 432 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,320 The Lord Jesus Christ. He has shown me the way. 433 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960 I felt so guilty, I didn't know who to speak to. 434 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,319 And then... then I found religion, 435 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,959 and I decided that, you know, if I'm gonna follow the Lord, 436 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,800 I've got to be honest and admit to what I've done. 437 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Let's talk about what happened. 438 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960 I always felt guilty about my offences. 439 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,959 Yeah, but to begin with, I maintained some hope 440 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,959 that my convictions would be overturned, 441 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,960 and I might be released. 442 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,959 But I can see now that this is unrealistic, and so... 443 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,159 I've decided to use this as a motivation for me 444 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,960 to take responsibility for what I've done. 445 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,160 To let these women know how sorry I am. 446 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960 And to be honest, you know... 447 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,800 ...and talk about everything. 448 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,959 I hope that they will be OK 449 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960 and get on with their lives, I really do. 450 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960 I'm sorry, can I get a tissue? 451 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:00,960 Sorry. 452 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,959 Do you think you're ready to start 453 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 the Sexual Offenders Treatment Programme? 454 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,960 That's what He's telling me. 455 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,960 I'm sorry. 456 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,959 DOOR CLOSES ARHAM: Here they are. 457 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,159 As-salamu alaikum, beta. 458 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,000 Wa-alaikumu as-salam. 459 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,959 How are you both? 460 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,959 Not getting much sleep, but, yeah, we're good. 461 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,960 I'll go and make some tea. 462 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,960 BABY GURGLES Ssh, ssh. 463 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,960 House is looking smart. 464 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Would you like to hold her? Oh, can I? 465 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,640 SALMA SPEAKS IN URDU 466 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960 SPEAKS IN URDU 467 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,799 Shh, tch-tch-tch-tch. 468 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960 She's so beautiful. 469 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,959 You know, I only ever wanted the best for you. 470 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Hm? You know that? 471 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960 Yeah. I know. 472 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Arham is a good man. 473 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Yeah. 474 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,960 He is. 475 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,000 You got knocked back, then, on your parole? 476 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960 I've told them about finding God. 477 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,959 No, I've put my hands up to it all, 478 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,960 told 'em how remorseful I am. 479 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,959 That'll only get you so far, mate. 480 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960 In my experience, you... you need to give them a reason. 481 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,959 What do you mean? 482 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,959 A reason why you started doing what you were doing in the first place. 483 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,159 If you can't do that, 484 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,960 they're never gonna believe that you know how to stop. 485 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960 She was an old girlfriend, you know. I don't really wanna talk about her. 486 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,959 I mean, can I? 487 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,959 You know, talk about someone completely innocent? 488 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,959 Whoever this person is, 489 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 they can be anonymised in any reports. 490 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,960 Well, she left me. 491 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,959 When was this? 492 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,960 Well, it's about, er, summer time, 2005. 493 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,959 And I was really cut up about it. 494 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960 You know, and then we were sort of on-off, and... 495 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,959 And then I remember, about a year later, 496 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,959 she phoned me and asked me to come pick her up 497 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,959 and take her back to mine, and I-I was excited about this. 498 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,959 But when I got to this bar, she was absolutely hammered. 499 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Totally drunk. 500 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,959 All I could do was take her home to her mum's, 501 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,959 and I was on my own again. 502 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Absolutely furious. 503 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,960 That night, I went looking for someone. 504 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,960 That would have been the first one. 505 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,959 That was around... 506 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000 September-October, 2006. 507 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,959 And then it just grew from there. 508 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,959 The truth was, I only gave them half a tablet 509 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800 because I didn't wanna do 'em too much harm. 510 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,960 And then when they were out of it, I'd just... 511 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,960 ...touch their leg or look up their skirt as I sort of... 512 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,999 ...played with myself. 513 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,960 I only actually put my penis inside one of 'em. 514 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960 That's all. For maybe... 515 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,959 ...four seconds. 516 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,999 I mean, I don't blame her, my ex, 517 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,960 you know, I-I take full responsibility for my actions. 518 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,960 But I can see now that that was the trigger. 519 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,960 Do you want cereal or toast? Er... 520 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,959 Toast, please. 521 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,959 There you go. You take that. 522 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,959 GIGGLES, CHILDREN CHATTER 523 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480 PHONE BUZZES 524 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Jack, can you take over a sec? 525 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,959 LAILA: 'It can't be true. It's the same as before.' 526 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,999 We just find out about it from the telly. 527 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,959 They all said, they were confident he wouldn't get out of prison. 528 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,959 It's bullshit! 529 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,999 It's just more fucking bullshit. 530 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,960 For God's sake, he's attacked over a hundred women. I... 531 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,959 How can anyone think it's safe to let him back out on the streets? 532 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,959 Because we are not allowed to know the reasoning, 533 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,999 the biggest problem we have 534 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,959 is trying to understand why they approved this. 535 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,959 Cos they live on Mars? 536 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,959 But why weren't we even consulted? 537 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,959 Because the system doesn't take into account 538 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,959 the views of the victim. 539 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,959 When these things are decided, 540 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,959 the criminal gets a place at the table, 541 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,959 the Parole Board, the Ministry of Justice do too, 542 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,959 but the views of the victim are not even considered. 543 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,799 So we just have to stand by and watch whilst they let him out? 544 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,959 Well, no, we have to bring pressure on David Gauke, 545 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,959 the Justice Secretary, 546 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,959 and get him to order a judicial review of the decision 547 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,959 on the grounds that it was legally irrational 548 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,959 to release Worboys. 549 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,959 And we have to move fast. 550 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,799 One thing we have been able to find out is that... 551 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,799 as late as 2015, he was denied transfer 552 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,959 from a high-security prison to a lower-security open prison 553 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,959 on the grounds that he posed an unacceptable risk. 554 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,959 Yet two years later, they're saying he's suitable for parole? 555 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,960 That sounds pretty irrational to me. 556 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,960 The thought of him being released in just a few weeks is... 557 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,639 It-It's terrifying. 558 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,959 Listen to me. 559 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,959 We are going to fight to stop that from happening. 560 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,959 We are gonna scrap, and we are gonna fight. 561 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,800 I've gotta go. 562 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,959 Laila... No, it... They'll be wondering where I am. 563 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,960 I'll go after her, make sure she's all right. 564 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960 But this is a fucking disgrace. 565 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,959 You know, I've heard there's a lot of people who are very unhappy 566 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,959 with today's decision. 567 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,959 Whispers that Labour and the Lib Dems might even call 568 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,959 for an inquiry. 569 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,959 Well, that will certainly shove it under David Gauke's hooter. 570 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,959 We need to keep it there. 571 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,959 We need to make a lot of noise, and quickly. 572 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,959 Well, I had a very interesting phone call 573 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,319 from Carrie Symonds this afternoon. 574 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,959 She gave evidence at the original trial? 575 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,639 Yes, I remember her. 576 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,800 Well, now she works for the Conservative Party press office. 577 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,999 And she phoned to say how angry she was and to... 578 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,959 offer her services. Oh, yeah? 579 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,960 Yeah, so I think she'd be very useful in lobbying David Gauke. 580 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,959 CARRIE: Worboys never once showed remorse. 581 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,959 He described his behaviour as banter, 582 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,959 and insisted that the women accusing him of rape, 583 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,959 who took to the stand in tears, shattered by the experience, 584 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,319 had in fact wanted to have sex with him. 585 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,959 The decision to free him was made a few months ago 586 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,959 by a Parole Board panel. 587 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,799 'We don't know who made up this panel, 588 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,959 'and we don't know how and why they came to this decision.' 589 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,479 PHONES RING 590 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,959 Hi, David! Er, just two minutes once you're done. Please. 591 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,959 I'll catch you up. Right. 592 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,959 I just wondered if you might want 593 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,799 to read this op-ed piece that I've written. 594 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,959 What's it about? The Worboys Parole Board decision. 595 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,999 You know that decision was based on the reports 596 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,959 from several psychologists? 597 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,960 I think he's pulled the wool over their eyes. 598 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,959 You might not know this, but as a young woman, 599 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,479 I was drugged by him in the back of his taxi. 600 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,999 And I just thought, full disclosure, 601 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,319 as Justice Secretary, you should know what I've said here. 602 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960 OK, I'll have a read. Thank you. 603 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,960 EXHALES SHAKILY 604 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960 PRISON OFFICER: Moving down to Belmarsh, then, John? 605 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,959 Not long to go now, is it? 606 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,960 And from there... 607 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,960 ...by the grace of God... 608 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,159 ...I'll be released. 609 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,960 A free man. 610 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,959 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 611 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,999 ALL: Speech, Carrie! 612 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,959 I would just like to say that I was just as surprised 613 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,799 as you all probably were when I was asked to take this job on, 614 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,959 but I was pleasantly surprised. 615 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,319 I promise to give it my all. Thank you. 616 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 617 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,960 Congratulations. Youngest-ever Head of Comms. 618 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,960 You've done so well. Thank you. 619 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,999 I do have just a... a small fly I must put in the ointment, though. 620 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,959 David Gauke told me that the MoJ will not be pursuing 621 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,639 a judicial review 622 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,959 of that Parole Board decision on John Worboys. What?! 623 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,959 Why not? He said something about "legal advice". 624 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 But then he's gonna get out! Fuck! Shit! Carrie. 625 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,319 I'm telling you this as a friend, OK? 626 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,959 But people have been saying you've been a bit distracted lately. 627 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,959 Well, then, they can mind their own business. Come on. 628 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,959 I'm just saying, 629 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,959 don't let this stuff get in the way of what's really important, OK? 630 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960 And why you're actually here. 631 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,960 Your career is taking off, Carrie. 632 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,960 Don't blow it now. 633 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,959 I really thought David fucking Gauke would get behind us. 634 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,959 This is so disappointing. 635 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,959 My guess is he's looked at all of this, and he's thinking 636 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,959 his department doesn't come out of it smelling of roses. 637 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,959 So, what can we do now? 638 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,959 We can push for a review of the decision 639 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,959 on behalf of Sarah and Laila. 640 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,959 Can we do that? 641 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,959 I'm not sure private individuals will have the legal standing, 642 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,959 but we can certainly give it a try. 643 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,959 Money is going to be a problem, though. 644 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,959 The rules have changed since the human rights case. 645 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,959 It's now no longer possible to take out insurance against losing. 646 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,959 Meaning that Sarah and Laila would be personally responsible 647 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,959 for the Parole Board's legal costs if we lost? 648 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,959 Precisely. We need to raise money fast. 649 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 But by going against the government, you could be risking your career. 650 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,959 I'm on it! 651 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,639 Yes, it is a letter that I've been asking London MPs to sign, 652 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,959 a lot of them already have, 653 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,959 protesting against the Parole Board's decision. 654 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,959 The women he attacked are fighting to have his parole overturned, 655 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,959 and maybe this is something 656 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,959 that your paper could take a more detailed look at. 657 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,959 And, hey, if you do decide to print, 658 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,959 don't forget to include the details of the CrowdJustice link 659 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,639 at the bottom of your story. 660 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,959 'OK, well, I'll talk to my editor, and we'll keep in touch. All right?' 661 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,959 We're still being contacted by women 662 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,959 who say that they are victims of Worboys. 663 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,959 In the last few days, I spoke to a woman in Bournemouth, 664 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,959 who's convinced that eventually more victims will come forward 665 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,959 from that area because he also drove his cab down there. 666 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,959 How about the appeal for donations to help with the legal support? 667 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,959 Well, we've been completely overwhelmed by the level of support 668 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,959 that we've received since opening our CrowdJustice page. 669 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,959 The donations have been pouring in, 670 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960 for which we are incredibly grateful. 671 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,959 Rehabilitated? 672 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,959 He denied everything until nine months before 673 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,959 the first time he could apply for parole. 674 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,159 Hm, and then he found God. 675 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,959 Right. Conveniently. 676 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,960 Just in time for parole, he saw the light. 677 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,959 Only gave half a Temazepam. 678 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,959 Says he only raped one woman! 679 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,959 Penis inside vagina for four seconds! 680 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,959 Wait a minute. Yes, here. 681 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,319 Says, "He only started offending in 2006 682 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,960 "after the break-up with his girlfriend." 683 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,960 Yes I've just seen that. Oh, thank you, Lord. 684 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960 Come on, you two. Mummy's running late. 685 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,479 I want you to be really good for Connor, OK? 686 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,999 Right, ring the bell. Wait there. OK. 687 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,959 INTERCOM CHIMES 688 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,959 OK. 689 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960 Oh, there he is. It's exciting. 690 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,999 Right, be good. CONNOR: All right, guys. 691 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,960 Go on, run up, there's cakes up there. Bye! 692 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,959 Thanks so much for doing this. It's all right. 693 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,959 I knew it would happen on half-term. Jack's with his mates, so... 694 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,959 It's, not a problem. You know I'm happy to help. 695 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,959 How's things at home? Erm... not great. 696 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,959 Er, Gav's actually moved out now, so... 697 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960 OK. I'm sorry to hear. 698 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,639 Anyway, I'd better get going, otherwise I'll be late, 699 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,959 but thanks again. OK. 700 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,959 I'll see you later. 701 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,320 PHONE RINGS All right, good luck! 702 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,959 LAILA: 'Hi.' Hi. I'm running late. 703 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,320 Are you nearly there yet? 704 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960 I'm sorry, I... I didn't get on the train. 705 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,959 I'm not coming down. I just... 706 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,960 'I suddenly thought... the idea of seeing him again... 707 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,959 'I just can't do it.' Yeah. 708 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,999 'I don't know how you can face going back to that horrible time, Sarah.' 709 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,959 Because I wanna have my moment in court with him today. 710 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,959 'Sorry. I know I'm letting you down.' 711 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,799 No, you're not. 712 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,959 'Listen, if that's what you wanna do, 713 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,999 'what you need to do, fuck it. 714 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,959 'Fuck them. Whatever works.' 715 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,959 I am sorry. Stop apologising, OK? 716 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,959 'Listen, I'm gonna have to go, otherwise I'll be late. 717 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,799 But, erm, I'll let you know how it goes, OK? 718 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,960 'OK. Thank you.' OK. Bye. Bye-bye. 719 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,960 Shit. 720 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960 Erm, Royal Courts of Justice, please. 721 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,960 SHE SIGHS 722 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,960 Thank you. 723 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,639 My Lords, this is a unique case, 724 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,959 in which someone who has been granted his freedom 725 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,639 has then had it taken away from him. 726 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,959 If ever there was a case for the use of the judicial review jurisdiction 727 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,959 to be exercised with the greatest care 728 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,959 and anxious scrutiny... 729 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960 this is that case. 730 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,959 We see that Mr Worboys has been seriously minimising the nature 731 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,959 and extent of his offending 732 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,959 and has been dishonestly manufacturing his explanation. 733 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,959 Furthermore, we say the Board has failed 734 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,479 to take into account critical evidence, 735 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,959 evidence which it was not in its discretion to ignore. 736 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,959 Evidence which, if it was going to reach a lawful decision, 737 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,960 it HAD to take into account. 738 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,959 In the notes of the sessions, attended with the psychologists, 739 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,959 Mr Worboys admits responsibility 740 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,320 only for those offences for which he was convicted. 741 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,319 A total of 19 offences 742 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,959 carefully selected by the Crown Prosecution Service, 743 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,959 as you can see from their statement, 744 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,960 so as to not overload the indictment. 745 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,799 These offences were against a total of 12 women, 746 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,959 and Worboys says 747 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:30,959 his offending began in September-October 2006. 748 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,799 But let's look, then, at what evidence is out there, 749 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,959 because that evidence paints a very, very different picture 750 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,959 to the one presented by Mr Worboys to the Parole Board. 751 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,639 The police's conclusion, having investigated all of the offences 752 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,479 that resulted in the charges brought against Mr Worboys, 753 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:57,320 is that he committed offences against a total of 105 women. 754 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,959 We submit this is very powerful evidence 755 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,959 that Mr Worboys' offending was more extensive 756 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,959 than anything he has admitted. 757 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,959 And, crucially, 758 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,959 we can see from the evidence given to the police by the witness DSD, 759 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,959 we can see that his offending went back to, 760 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,959 at the very least... 761 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,160 May 2003. 762 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,959 That is more than three years before the date 763 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,959 he says is when he began offending, 764 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,959 which blows out of the water the Parole Board's assessment 765 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,959 that he has taken full responsibility 766 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,959 for his offences, 767 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,960 or that he has been open and honest in his account. 768 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,960 LAUGHTER 769 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,960 SARAH: Happy birthday! 770 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,639 CHILD SHRIEKS 771 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,960 Mama! 772 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,000 THEY GROWL 773 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,959 Look at that! 774 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,640 LAUGHTER 775 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,960 You OK? 776 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,800 There's something I've gotta tell you. 777 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,800 INAUDIBLE 778 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com