ANDY COHEN: Tonight on
"The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion...
Did you drive yourself here tonight?
-I did not. -Good.
Rulla, you look zhuzhed in the face.
-Zhuzhed. -[laughter]
Am I a slam pig--an ugly, promiscuous, fat woman...
I think you're a horrible person, but I don't--
...that pumps and dumps. Am I a slam pig?
Well, I don't think that's necessarily the full definition.
-Yes, it is. -Pump and dump?
-[laughs] -I don't know.
You said to me that Gerry's done his thing
when you guys had issues, and you went off
on your merry way, doing your thing.
I never shared any kind of infidelity with you.
Ashley, how is Audrey's doing now?
It actually has complicated things further.
-You're just as messy as me. -Oh, my God. Here she goes.
So fucking own it, bitch. I own it.
-There she goes. -You don't. Oh.
I am Rulla, the Queen of the Proper Police.
You were ambushed. You ambushed me, and then you ambushed her.
Do you feel like you owe her an apology
for what happened at Capo?
-No. -That just shows your character.
-You all fucking know. You know! You know!
-Know what? Know what? -You know.
She's a fucking whore, but she won't support
the females, everybody else? -Oh, I am? I'm a whore?
Your husband's not a whore?
I don't know what's bigger-- your mouth
or what's between your legs!
♪♪♪
-Hi! -Hi.
-You ready for today? -No.
This should be interesting.
I come with receipts.
-[gasps] -Liz.
-Make me beautiful. -[laughs]
I need to be beautiful today.
♪♪♪
Like, my whole body is shaking.
Your hair looks so pretty.
Thank you. Your nose looks so pretty.
We all like a little enhancement...
-I know, right? -...or refinement.
-I know. -Somethin', somethin'.
And she looks a lot younger. Like, I thought she got, like,
a face-lift, if I'm being honest.
-[gasps] -Hey.
No, in a good way.
Scary stuff.
WOMAN: It's 9:36, everyone. 9:36.
Hi, guys.
Are we ready?
WOMAN: Ashley's walking the set.
-Hi. -ANDY: Hello.
-Hello. -You look gorgeous.
-Thank you. -Wow.
-Oh, my God. How cute.
-I'm gonna fall into this. -Did you just notice?
-ANDY: Hi. -Hi!
-How are you? -This is a dream!
-You look gorgeous. -Welcome to Rhode Island.
-Hi, Andy. -Hi, Rulla.
Hi, baby.
-You are amazing. -So are you.
I'm obsessed with the new Ru-La-La.
[dramatic music]
-ANDY: Hi. Wow. -Hi. How are you?
You look beautiful.
♪♪♪
-How you doing? -We're here. We're here.
Wow. This is insane.
Hi.
♪♪♪
Oh, everyone looks so pretty.
-You do not. -ANDY: No.
No.
5...4...3...2...
Hey, everybody. Welcome
to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island"
Season One Reunion, or should I say,
welcome to Rhode Island, bitch?
-[laughter] -I'm Andy Cohen...
[New England accent] ready to shuck some oysters...
[normal voice] ...at this beautiful seaside marina.
But instead, I'm grilling Rhode Island's
most iconic pearls.
Hi, ladies.
-Hi. -Hi, Andy.
Liz, good to see you.
-Good to see you. -Did you take your dinghy?
[laughs] No, not today.
-Hi, Alicia. -Hi, Andy.
Did you drive yourself here tonight?
-I did not. -Good.
-[laughter] -I know.
Kelsey, I didn't hear a siren when you pulled up.
-No, I left that at home today. -You left it at home today.
All right.
-Hey, Jo-Ellen. -Hi, Andy.
-Who's watching the kids? -Not my mom.
-Okay. Hi, Rosie. -Hi.
Does this feel like the set of "Rhode Trippin"?
-No, this is way better. -Okay.
-Hi, Ashley. -Hey, Andy.
Think we'll get any tears from you today?
-Absolutely. -Yes?
-[laughs] -Hi, Rulla.
Hi, Andy.
You look...zhuzhed in the face.
-Zhuzhed. -[laughter]
Talk to me about what's different.
Well, after 25 years of debate,
I finally decided to just go ahead
and get my rhinoplasty. -So good.
And a very minuscule lip lift while I was at it.
Okay, well, you ladies went from kind of
regular Rhode Islanders to Real Housewives.
I'm so curious what that was like for you.
Alicia, how has the journey been?
Um, I just feel like it's a dream.
-Love it. Love a cracker. -[laughter]
Who knew that crackers would take off like that?
Like, it's just wild. You know, you don't know
your personality until you see yourself on TV.
Yes. I'm curious how folks in Rhode Island
are reacting to the show.
Liz, what are you hearing on the streets?
I think initially, Rhode Island was very anti,
you know, NIMBYism, not in my backyard,
no, stay out, but, um, I think that now people have...
They're embracing it.
They're embracing it and looking for themselves in backgrounds.
-Right. -Yeah.
Nothing like this is--really ever happens in our tiny state.
One thing that made you all so fun to watch
is your deep connections.
Some of you have actually known each other since birth.
Liz, who have you known the longest in this group--Alicia?
Alicia. I do remember when she was born.
-I actually remember the day. -Wow.
She was closer in age to my niece.
Her niece was like my sister.
Like, literally, we, like, took baths together.
We did everything together. We played dolls together.
Is that when you fell in love with dolls?
Yeah. She probably knows my obsession.
She actually wrote to me about the horse.
You know how I said I loved a horse?
-I love a horse. -[laughter]
-Wait, what? -Uh, just in general?
I do. She used to ride horses.
I tried riding a horse, and I had welts all over me,
and I couldn't ride a horse with her, and we cried.
-But you love a horse. -I love a horse.
-But you get welts from a horse. -Yeah, I can't ride them.
-I could never ride a horse. -Oh, well, that's a twist.
Yeah, it's messed up.
What was your reaction, group, to viewers
really having a hard time telling you all apart
at the beginning?
Viewers thought that you all looked alike.
Honestly, a compliment.
I'd be happy with any of these faces on mine.
-That's nice. -Aw, so sweet.
Liz, what was your reaction?
Yeah, I never-- I didn't see it.
-I didn't--I didn't get it. -I mean, it is striking
how much you and Dolores favor each other.
We have photos together before I ever even met her doctor.
And I think that we actually looked more alike then.
-Oh, really? -Yeah.
You didn't bring a Dolores picture as inspo?
-Never. -No. Okay.
-No. -Okay.
I mean, when I was watching
this show at the beginning, the early cuts,
I was like, Rosie and Kelsey look so much alike.
-I don't see that at all. -I don't see it.
-I really don't. -I mean, I don't hate
the comparison, but I don't see it.
Seemed like you made nice at Rulla's Arabian Nights party.
I apologize for hurting your feelings.
We should just, like, move forward.
Where do things stand now?
I mean, I said I would coexist, and I'm still trying to coexist.
I think I--my apology was pretty aligned with her apology.
And then she goes in her confessional saying
it was the worst apology of her life.
That's not a real apology.
This is the worst apology I've ever gotten in my entire life.
It just didn't seem like she was interested in actually
putting the apology into place. -At that moment, why would I
be interested? You've only ever done mean things to me,
and your apology was the worst apology ever.
[mockingly] "I've never done anything to you.
I've never done anything to you."
And your apology was much better?
After you said that, why the fuck would I be like,
"Here's a heartfelt apology"? -No, I said I'm sorry
for my reaction to you, which is honestly
more than you fucking deserve.
And I said I'm sorry for hurting your feelings.
ANDY: Kelsey and Rosie, what even started the feud?
It can't be a haircut.
Every person who's done your makeup,
every person that's done your hair, you always post.
I appreciated you asking me to do the haircut.
You never posted anything.
It's not my job to take a picture
of the back of my fucking head, Kelsey!
I was privy to a lot of information prior to filming,
and it was more of
a personality thing and this, like,
competitive nature that I felt like she always had towards me.
I feel like I tried to get along with her,
and I tried to get to know her.
You know, the haircut was a prime example.
It wasn't about just her necessarily
not posting that one time.
It was all the months that came after it
where you didn't post, but you posted everybody else.
The way that Kelsey words it, seems as if the post
was more important to you than the friendship
or developing a friendship.
As an influencer,
who was right and who was wrong regarding the posting?
There was no discussion that there would be any posting.
And I think that because she paid you,
and she has the Venmo receipt of that...
I'm not negating that she paid me.
And sending a very nice text message
and referring people. I would have totally helped you.
So you didn't know Alicia any more than you knew me,
but you were posting Pizza Mamma like it was nothing
all the time. You posted a recommendation.
Well, I ordered Pizza Mamma. It was really good.
I was with somebody else. You know what I mean?
Okay, you came to get a haircut from me. It was really good.
It's a little weird that you're, like, taking notes of this.
Like, it's okay you don't like me,
but there's a lot of excuses.
There's never any accountability.
You've never given me the chance either.
-Do you like her? -I don't like how--
She's like a silent killer to me.
Like, in the show,
she'll be fine to my face, but behind the scenes,
and when she does, when she gets home,
like, she instigates me the entire time.
Instigates you? What have I done that instigates you?
-Yes, you do. You post-- -Do I know the feeling of that.
Rosie, where'd you get the term "slam pig" from?
You're a fucking slam pig!
Don't ever fucking come for me again!
-I'm a pig? -You're a slam pig!
So I actually learned it from one of Alicia's friends.
You are so not a slam pig, by the way.
-But I love that word. -...like when she says "whore,"
it's like it's a similar thing. It's like we're not saying it
'cause you fit the definition perfectly.
It's just like, Sally the slam pig.
Sally the slammer. Don't forget that one.
ROSIE: It's a great word, and I do love when--
[New England accent] Slammer?
Sally the slammer. It's really Sally the slam pig.
-Yeah. -Is Kelsey one?
Look, "slam pig" is just a word you use when you're pissed off,
you know? -Not really.
"Sally the slam pig." It came out of my mouth.
I told her to get the fuck outta my house 75 million times.
-She wasn't leaving. -So am I a slam pig?
An ugly, promiscuous, fat woman...
I think you're a horrible person, but I don't--
...that pumps and dumps. Am I a slam pig?
Well, I don't think that's necessarily the full definition.
Yes, it is.
-Pump and dump? -Am I a slam pig?
I don't think you're a slam pig. I just think you were
being a bitch to me. -So then why'd you say it?
So now we're saying things that we don't mean. Okay.
But, like, at least I can take accountability for it
and be like, look... -You can't, at all.
-Wasn't my best moment. -You can't at all.
Okay. She comes after my house. She comes after my career.
She comes after my finances. She comes after
everything about me, but God forbid we call her a slam pig.
-It's just a little too much. -When have I ever said
anything to you? You call everything from me an attack.
I've never forcefully or violently attacked you ever.
It wasn't forceful or violent when you came
to a siren with my house? -Ever.
[siren wailing]
[amplified voice] House police.
[dog barking]
Suspect says 8,000 square feet. More like 8,000 inches.
Show of hands-- who thinks it was funny?
-No shock there. -Okay.
When you watched the show, and you saw her with the siren,
did that make you think, oh, she was trying to make a joke?
No, I think she was trying to have another moment
at my expense, and I think she thought I was gonna take it.
Is there a siren ordinance in North Kingstown?
-Yeah, there is. -I'm surprised you don't know.
-No, I don't. -So in reference
to the slam pig fight,
uh, Cole Hearted 95 said, "Girl, you cannot emotionally
destroy someone on national TV
for trying to joke about your past beef
when you're on camera
with CAD drawings and a tape measure,
telling your husband you were gonna do the same thing."
Well, here's the difference.
I was making light of the fact that, like,
this has been such a big thing. She doesn't even have a house.
-She's coming to my house. -Seemed like you were
prepared for a fight, though. -No, I wasn't, actually.
Kelsey, you did say at the castle...
You were like, "Oh, I'm gonna have to see the blueprints."
[mouth full] I pulled a PDF of her plan.
Or, like, blue paper. What are they called?
-Like, the... -Blueprint?
I don't care. I hope you build the Taj Mahal, babe.
-Oh, my God. -I don't care.
-It's not about the number. -It is about the number.
It's about the embellishments, about everything. Yes, it is.
You know what it was about? It was about you discrediting me.
And you've been accusing me of having two affairs,
which aren't true, of getting fired, which wasn't true.
So you said I'm not actually a slam pig.
Do I suck dick for a career?
I mean, I kind of do think you did that for the last 10 years,
if I'm being honest. -Oh, so how? How?
Well, the only other coworker you had
was a girlfriend in Florida.
That was your whole thing, right?
Did you suck your husband's dick?
Not really. It's not really my thing.
Well, let me know when you want a divorce lawyer.
Jo-Ellen, you and Kelsey both questioned
whether Rosie slept with a coach.
Where did that rumor come from?
This was on Reddit three and a half years ago.
I think he was asking me.
Okay, well, go for it. It's only my life.
It was on Reddit three and a half years ago?
Yeah, when I went on medical leave.
Was that much interest in you from "Rhode Trippin"?
No. It was because I was on NBC 10, which was,
like, the number one station in Rhode Island.
We had, like, 90% viewership.
And when I was doing traffic through the morning show
and lifestyle was, like, the number one lifestyle show.
And so they were like, "Where is Rosie? Where is Rosie?"
And I wasn't telling anyone I was on medical leave
'cause I was bleeding out of my butt.
So instead, I just, like, disappeared.
And during that time, he was having an affair
with, like, a student reporter at the school.
-It wasn't a student reporter. -It was a student reporter.
How do you know this?
If it was a student and a faculty member,
that would have been heavily investigated.
There was a cop that pulled him over with you in the car.
I wasn't in the car, Kelsey.
♪♪♪
He was getting a DUI,
and your name is in the police report.
♪♪♪
ANDY: Coming up...
-You are nobody. -Rulla, I'm so glad
that you're finally speaking. -You're nobody.
-'Cause you were in no episodes. -You're a nobody.
You're a fucking slut. That's all you are--
in the whole fucking state.
You know what? You know what? Guess what.
-Your husband's a slut. -No, fuck you!
♪♪♪
There was a cop that pulled him over with you in the car.
It never came out. I wasn't in the car, Kelsey.
He was getting a DUI,
and your name is in the police report.
My name isn't in the police report, Jo-Ellen.
-I don't know him. -I'm worried
about the police report because I know it's not true.
And I don't know why you guys are so convinced it's true.
-Get me the police report. -I'm telling you,
I've never met him. -You had just went--
Okay, go and get it. Go and get it.
Somebody who works at PC for the last 20--
Go and get it. It's not true. Go and get it.
First off, you can cite whatever you want.
-Three and a half years. -You can say whatever you want.
There's never been a picture. There's never been a video.
-There's never been anything. -Because he was married.
-Because he was the coach of a-- -He's still married.
They moved away. I don't know him!
I think it was another girl. I think it was a student.
-That's what I heard. -It was a student.
Everyone knows Rosie Woods' reputation
is linked to that post. -Honestly,
I didn't find him attractive, Rosie, so I don't think--
-Nobody knows my reputation. -To me, I've obviously heard
that you did it, but he's not cute. Like, he's not--
I don't think that he's your type--
He's not attractive. I didn't have an affair with him.
Jo-Ellen, why have you seen the police report?
I have not seen the police report.
I've talked to a few officers that wrote the police report.
-Oh. -Yeah. So again, lying.
-Of course you did. -I know. Detective.
I've never met him,
so I'm not in the police report. -ANDY: Okay.
Like, this is so fucking stupid. Get me the police report,
and we'll talk about it. You don't have it.
-I don't have it. -You haven't seen it.
She hasn't seen it. Nobody's seen it 'cause it's not real.
Liz, do you think Kelsey's hard on Rosie?
No, I think that they just
completely misunderstand each other,
and they may be more alike than we know.
When I say it, it pisses Rosie off.
She showed up to my house with a fucking siren,
and then she showed up to Audrey's with a sash.
She's beauty. She's grace.
She's Miss Slam Pig United States.
I'm done with that.
I put on a sash and crown, and you're mad?
Yeah, 'cause everything you do is fucking mean.
-You did call her a slam pig. -Yeah, I am.
So, you know, she was obviously busting balls.
Of course you're gonna defend her.
Well, Rosie and Kelsey,
I don't know what your future is, but...
Yeah, I don't care.
...it doesn't look great right now. Let's move on.
That was actually funny.
Liz, one of my favorite shots was of Ganji on the dock.
Where are you going?
Is it too hot for your little feetsies?
Let's go see Dad.
And I'm so sorry.
How long did you have your beautiful cat?
-12 years. -12 years.
I don't know what happened. It just happened very suddenly.
Really?
But, yeah, I think I'm still grieving.
-Yeah. -He, like, literally owned me.
In happier news,
congratulations on your new grandbaby.
Thank you.
How did you come up with the nickname "Gigi"?
I just didn't wanna be a "grand" anything.
-A glam anything. -Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I call the baby "Gigi."
Any timeline for Brianna's wedding?
She's looking. She's looking for venues now.
She's ready.
Jeanine from McCall, Idaho, said,
"I think people don't understand how huge that was
for Liz to go from no kids to three kids."
I mean, your life must have completely done a 180.
It did, but I was always up for the challenge, actually.
I actually loved it.
I was surprised to learn that you and Gerry are related.
-So ridiculous. -That was such a little--
Outside of being husband and wife, I mean.
It is true, though.
Like, that was just a little tidbit anecdote.
I didn't think it would ever go anywhere.
It's just funny, but, um, yeah, I found out that
something happened along the way with my mom's mom,
and her dad wasn't who she thought it was.
And then you go to find out you're Irish.
-You know? -[laughter]
-You're half Syrian, half Irish? -No, no, no, no.
- No. -I'm just part Irish. Um--
-Part Irish. -Yeah.
I was surprised that you weren't Italian.
I thought she was Italian always.
I always thought you were Italian.
How did you think she was Italian? You grew up with her.
I don't know. I always thought they were Italian.
Well, and they just come across as Italian.
Yeah, no.
Was there ever a time when you and Gerry
were talking about having more kids?
Yeah. Um, I mean, I always wanted a lot of kids,
and Gerry really did, too, and it just never really...
was the right time.
Rulla, do you regret saying that Liz couldn't relate
to why you're staying with Brian--
because she didn't produce the children?
When you produce the kids with somebody, it is a game-changer.
Gerry has kids. You don't have your own.
You know, I do. I-I guess I felt bad.
I would never mean to offend you,
nor does it make Liz
any less of a mother just 'cause she didn't carry.
Still a fucked up thing to say.
But, like, I mean, I don't hold it against you.
Like, I'm not mad--it is. It was.
Liz, uh, now that you've sold Gypsy,
has your relationship with Gerry improved?
Yeah. Sometimes I wish he was going back.
We're up each other's asses a lot.
Celeste from Montreal said,
"Rulla more than hinted that both Gerry and Liz
have cheated on each other when she said,
'When the cat's away, the mice will play.'"
Liz has shared with me her issues, you know, with Gerry--
the misunderstandings and indiscretions.
She's done her thing, and he's done his thing.
And they say, when the cat's away, the mice shall play.
It seemed like you were saying it based on knowing something.
I just know that she struggled when Gerry was away
and just used to spend time trying to fill her time,
you know, with other things and other support systems.
But have anything confirmed?
Just bustin' her chops.
That's not funny.
Is it busting chops or...
-[laughs] Busting chops. -What was your reaction, Liz?
Well, you look like you wanna say something.
Say it. I don't care.
No, I mean, you know, Liz and I have had, like,
some chats in the past about things and struggles,
but to know of anything definitively, like...
I would like you to articulate the chats that we had
where I've shared with you, like, any kind of infidelity.
Did you openly share any infidelity with me?
That's what I wanna know.
-You have to think about that? -No.
-All right. I didn't think so. -No.
I've been places where you've been.
I know you have.
I've been on Block Island where you've been, and...
-I know you have. -Where have you been together?
You said, "We've been places."
Say--please say it. I'm-- I am dying for you to say it.
Because I've been meaning to thank you for this
for, like, four years, so come out with it.
But wait. Why do you want to thank her for? I'm confused.
Well, hold on. Let her say it. What'd you see, Rulla?
No, I mean, Liz--
hanging out with other people, having a good time.
-Might have been... -Kissing?
Getting close to so--
[sighs heavily]
Rulla, when you hint at something,
now let's speak on it, and now I can answer you.
It was one instance.
There was a time when Gerry and I were separated.
It was Labor Day weekend.
I went to Block Island with my girlfriends
and, um, met up with someone I hadn't seen in, like, 30 years.
It was fun. It was a guy. He was throwing me up in the air.
We're dancing. We're all over the place.
The next day, Gerry got a phone call at 6 a.m.
♪♪♪
And it was Rulla and Brian.
♪♪♪
Gerry and I were separated.
I went to Block Island with my girlfriends and, um,
met--met up with someone I hadn't seen in, like, 30 years.
The next day, Gerry got a phone call at 6 a.m.,
and it was Rulla and Brian, and I--
Wait. What are you talking about? Liz, that is a lie.
-Anyway, that was the goal... -That--
...for Gerry to find out. That was the goal.
-Liz. Liz. -I wasn't trying to hide it.
-That is a blatant lie. -Oh, God, no. Please, no.
-Okay, we'll ask-- -Go ahead.
Subpoena phone records from then. And, Liz, Liz--
LIZ: I don't wanna subpoena anything. I don't give a shit.
Subpoena?
You're screaming like an animal right now.
Liz, why--why would--Liz, no.
She's so aggressive.
-Ask Gerry when he gets here. -Shut your mouth, Jo-Ellen.
I'm sick and tired of your fucking mouth.
-Shut your mouth. -Why don't you...
-Shut your mouth. -Shut the fuck up.
-RULLA: You shut the fuck up. -I'll get to you when I'm ready.
-You're gonna have your time. -Shut your mouth.
Just, this is not about Jo-Ellen.
Sorry you're caught. You and your husband
love to call people. -Stop.
We're not call--Liz, but I don't know what--
You thought you had your "aha!" moment.
My husband told me on the way to your--
What are you--Why would I want to have an "aha!" moment?
What did I ever have against you? We're all--
-I mean... -Liz, Liz, that is a lie.
-But so... -And I would love to--
-Let's just say when the mice-- -That--I don't like this.
The cat's away, the mice will play.
-This, this, I don't like. -LIZ: The thing is--
I don't go calling this, that, the other thing.
You're screaming like a fucking nut right now.
-Now you're irritating me. -I'm not being a nut.
You're accusing me of something that I didn't do.
She's not really screaming. I've heard a lot of screaming.
You guys have all screamed. I have not screamed all season.
-You did. -But--But excuse me.
-Rulla, excuse me. -Four years ago, you called
Gerry, thinking you knew. -Saying--saying,
"While the cat's away, the mice will play,"
what you're saying is... something happened.
That was the one incident where it was--
People have seen other things.
I don't wanna get involved in it.
All right? I considered her a--
"People have seen other things." Like--
Liz, I--like, well, you just admitted.
I don't think it's that it's a secret.
I asked you what I ever shared with you.
You said, "Liz shared with me some infidelities..."
Yes, the issues that you--the issues that you and Gerry had.
Yeah, I had a blast that night, and I'm glad you told me,
because that was the objective. -You said to me...
You said to me that Gerry's done his thing
when you guys had issues, and you went off
on your merry way, doing your thing.
No, I never said that to you.
I never shared any kind of infidelity with you ever.
It kind of seems like you're also
alluding to maybe this was not an isolated incident.
Yeah, which is weird, 'cause that really was
the only time that's ever happened in my life.
-I'm not alluding to anything. -I'm done.
So you can say people say things.
-You know what? -Bring me that.
I'm done talking about this. I'm done, 'cause it's not--
There's gonna be no resolution.
But I'm not gonna be accused of doing things
that I haven't done, Liz. -All right, well, then it was
Brian, and you didn't know. -Why would Brian call Gerry?
LIZ: Why don't you ask them?
ANDY: Let me ask you about something else.
I can't believe this.
So why did you snap at Kelsey over saying "the ongoing"?
I wanna go down to the seawall with Gerry and Dino.
Ongoing what? Rumors?
Ongoing rumors?
-Bye. Bye. -Don't talk about it.
Fuck off.
First of all, that was unwarranted,
and I'm so sorry. You know this.
But because Kelsey knew the struggle
that I was going through with the...
more of the accusations, it was harmful to our lives.
It was embarrassing to me.
So that struggle and coming on here
and hear it come up all over again,
it was like a perfect storm.
Kelsey, did you hook up with Dino
before or after you were with your ex?
The first year I was competing for Miss Rhode Island
when I did that.
It wasn't something that I was necessarily proud of.
We've been around each other since then,
and I just kind of ignore him.
Yeah. We've been in the same places together.
-Yeah. -Xavier from Tacoma said,
"Alicia, when you lost it on Rosie at Rail Explorers,
it genuinely seemed like you were terrified
that Liz would think you were talking behind her back."
ROSIE: Alicia, you said she's always like that.
-With what? -When she just gets mad.
Don't flip that shit. Don't do that to me.
Now welcome to Rhode Island, bitch. This is how we roll.
But I wasn't. I was-- if you heard it, I was saying,
like, she's been through a lot. We're cut from the same cloth.
I just appear a little bit softer.
And I'm scared of, like, I don't wanna fuck with Liz, too.
So when she was saying it, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
ANDY: Ashley, on the show, you said that Liz was scary.
Are you scared of Liz?
I still think that Liz is an intimidating figure.
She's, like, she has this aura of power.
I know there's many different facets.
Are you surprised to hear that characterization of you?
I have a bold personality.
By a show of hands, is anyone here actually scared of Liz?
-Depends on the day. -ANDY: Depends on the day.
Sometimes.
Don't lie just 'cause I'm sitting here.
-At Capo, I was. -At Capo, I was.
-Oh, were you? Aw. -All right, let's hold there,
and we will pick it up after the break.
RULLA: I wanna talk to Gerry.
I've known this for months. I never said--I don't care.
Listen to me. I wanna know where it came from.
It's a lie. I'm telling you. I swear to God on the Bible.
I don't--I don't fuck with lies.
-Why would Gerry make that up? -No, 'cause I want you to know.
Gerry doesn't even know what day it is.
I want Gerry to tell me.
Why would I ever fucking do that?
We laughed about it.
RULLA: It's fine. I'm happy to talk with him.
All right. Okay.
ANDY: Coming up...
-Nuts! You're nuts! -When someone says--I'm nuts?
-I'm nuts? I'm nuts? -Alicia, look, I wanna explain
to you, like... -I'm crazy?
I attacked you. I know.
Get over yourself. You're not that great.
Welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen. So, ladies, a show of hands--
who watched Ashley on TV before "Housewives"?
-[laughs] -ANDY: You did?
I've been following her since 2015.
-ANDY: Really? -Mm-hmm.
So what were you expecting when you first met her?
And how did she compare?
I think she lived up to the expectations.
She's sweet. She's sincere. The crying.
Does anyone want to guess how many times Ashley
cried this season total?
Eight.
I was gonna say seven.
There's a tracker online somewhere.
-10? -Seven.
Ashley, what do you think?
Well, I'd say somewhere around 12.
Just wanna, like, not have you thinking about Audrey's.
-[bell dings] -I know.
-Let me down. -It's like, holy crap.
-Let me down! -That means I'm gonna be
alone for five hours like this. -Mommy... [crying]
-She's gonna cry. -[bell dings]
She's gonna cry again. Oh, no.
Sorry. I'm totally crying. [crying]
...won't stop.
Why don't you just go in the office? Just relax.
-Somebody will, like, die. -[bell dings]
That will happen one day.
I don't know why I'm crying so much.
-It's okay. -[laughs]
-ANDY: It was seven. -I was right. I'm psychic.
ANDY: Rulla and Alicia. Yes.
So, Ashley, when did you move to Rhode Island?
2021.
And so the only one in this group
that you knew previous to the show was...
-Rosie. -Rosie.
Who I was set up on a friend girl date with.
-Nice. -Yeah.
And immediately hit it off. Yeah.
-Oh, that's nice. -ROSIE: Yeah.
Patty from Queens said, "I saw Kelsey say
that Ashley doesn't hang out with any of the ladies
outside of filming.
Jo-Ellen has three kids, and she still prioritizes friends."
Jo-Ellen, why do you think it's harder for Ashley?
Well, I think that Ashley does hang out with Rosie,
and Jared works, like, a hundred hours.
So I think that's a little bit different,
where Gary helps out a lot more to watch the kids.
And it's hard to make mom friends.
-Like, when you have kids... -Yeah.
-...like, it's very difficult. -ANDY: Mm.
I think because, you know, Ashley is close with Rosie
and has seen some of the things that have taken place,
she's probably just, you know, uncomfortable.
And I don't wanna speak for you, but--
No, of course. That's definitely a component to it.
Um, I...have never been invited by Kelsey to do anything,
so it kind of is a two-way street.
So can we hang out?
-Sure. -Let's ask Rosie.
Well, Rosie, how do you feel about that?
Yeah, you can hang out with whoever you want.
-[chuckles] -You're a grown-up.
Has your loyalty to Rosie
impeded your ability to make friends with the other women?
No, I don't think so.
But my friendship with Rosie is super special.
-Like, it really is. -[laughs]
I hang out with her all the time.
-Oh, I'm gonna choke up. -Don't cry. [laughs]
-Oh, no. -Then I'll cry, too.
And then we'll start talking about the Disney Channel.
I haven't made friends like I have with Rosie
for quite some time. It's, like, one of those
friendships that you don't think you're gonna...
It's hard, like, being in your 30s, you know?
Most of the friendships you don't think you're
going to create in your 30s.
Especially, I'm in a different spot in life than her.
It's so nice that Rosie makes...
[voice breaking] She fits our friendship into...
-Oh, my God. [laughs] -[bell dings]
...our lifestyle. I can't think of a time where...
You're very cute.
We've gone out to dinner and drinks.
Like, she comes, and she plays on the playroom floor.
-Yeah. That's fun. -We watch, like, reruns
of "Full House." She goes to the zoo
and my kids' music classes. It's very special.
-And you talk about boy bands. -And we love the Disney Channel.
And we talk about boy bands, yeah.
Ashley, how is Audrey's doing now?
Since the show, like, the-- it has been packed to the brim.
-Yeah. -Have you changed your tune?
Um...
-No. -He's actually been more
stressed because of it. -ANDY: Wow.
So it actually has complicated things further.
ANDY: Wow. Um, I wanna switch gears.
Jo-Ellen, you said you had a wild time in your 20s.
Mm-hmm.
What was the craziest thing you did?
Why did you say, Rulla? I couldn't hear you
under your breath. -Sure you're still having it.
Oh, am I? What proof do you have?
Go on.
I had fun in my 20s. I was in a sorority.
Did you get kicked out of the school?
No, I didn't.
You didn't get kicked out of college?
Nope, I did not.
You didn't get in trouble in high school?
I, of course, got in trouble in high school.
-I got sent away. -Of course? Why?
We all get in trouble in high school?
I got sent away. I think
I fucking made that very clear three times.
All right. That's a good card to pull now.
But you know what? Let's talk about shit underage.
That's a classy thing to do, to bring up somebody underage
and their problems when they're under 18.
You keep on saying that you're so clean.
Jo-Ellen, you're so great at playing the victim.
You're so not messy. You're just as messy as me.
-Oh, my God. Here she goes. -So fucking own it, bitch.
-I own it. You don't. -Here she goes.
Oh, I am Rulla, the Queen of the proper police.
You wanna blame your mother for everything.
-Oh, my goodness. -ANDY: All right. Okay.
All right. Very good. When you had a heart to heart
with your mom, she said you were lying about being out with boys.
Do you remember what precipitated
such a drastic measure?
I pretended I was taking a shower,
and I jumped out the window to go see my boyfriend.
You thought she was gonna fall for you taking,
like, an hour shower?
You know, I think she did for a while.
Alicia, you knew Jo-Ellen in high school.
Was she really the bad girl her mom thought she was?
No. She was a teenager.
Jo-Ellen, how is your relationship with your mom now?
Have you both ever considered therapy together?
We've done therapy in the past.
Um, right now, the relationship isn't--isn't going great.
-It's not going well? -No.
She's a little upset about the show,
and she is kind of weaponizing my kids, like, literally.
She's like, "If you talk bad about me to Andy,
I'm not watching them." I'm like, uh...
-ANDY: Uh-oh. -I know.
Liza from Rolling Meadows has been dying to know,
"Jo-Ellen, what did your family think when you stole Gary
from your sister in high school?"
I never stole Gary.
Jen and Gary never dated ever. They never kissed on the lips.
She had a crush on him,
and he touched her boobs in seventh grade.
Rita from Southampton said, "Jo-Ellen, don't you think
it's inappropriate the way your sister so openly says
she wants your husband?"
Oh, Gary, I found a pair of your underwear.
Oh, they're small.
-[chuckles] They tasted great. -Whoo.
It's an inside joke in our family.
Like, I mean, the people that are around me
that have seen Jen and Gary, like, it's fine. Trust me.
Show of hands--
who here has heard that Jo-Ellen is a swinger?
Well, she talked to us about it at the lunch.
-We've all heard it, yeah. -Who here thinks it?
-I don't know. -Okay, thank you.
-I don't know. -Where does the rumor come from?
I don't know. My neighbors had said it to me once,
and I don't know where they heard it from,
and then we kinda did, like, this, like, funny upside-down
pineapples back and forth on each other's lawns
and making signs, but...
Jo-Ellen, Rulla's husband Brian
admitted to calling your work colleague.
So how is work going for you since then?
Um, well, I was laid off from that job.
That was not why you were laid off.
I didn't finish speaking. Shut up.
You got warnings before and after, and everybody knows that.
ANDY: Okay. Why did you get laid off?
-Got fired from many other jobs. -Why is she still here?
She was in three episodes.
Doesn't matter how many episodes I'm in.
I'm not even gonna go there. I'm not even gonna go there.
He, uh, they laid off a bunch of us from the company.
I don't know if it had anything to do with what
Rulla and Brian did, but it was a bunch of us at corporate.
I didn't do anything. Correct yourself. I did not do anything.
-You were in the room. -I did not do anything.
-You were in the room. -I was in the house.
ANDY: Do you think Brian had any--
-In the room. In an earshot. -In the house.
That's the room. You were fucking upstairs.
-Stop making false accusations. -Do you think Brian
had any involvement? -He didn't call my boss.
He called a colleague. He then made a formal complaint--
You keep on saying the story wrong.
Don't you think I know my own fucking story?
No, everything that comes out of your mouth is...
I have the proof. What do you have?
Do you think his involvement led to your layoff?
I don't think that it helped.
I don't know what led to it, but I know that my boss
had to talk to me about what Brian did
and writing in the complaint about me.
I know that Brian was trying to get me fired.
He said he was gonna sue my company at the time,
and if they didn't lay me off... -Oh, my God.
..because I was unfit. I have proof.
-Stop your noises. -Okay.
Show Brian when he comes.
Maybe it's your nose fucking breathing. Shut up.
Jo-Ellen, shut your mouth. At your age--
Can you let me have my turn to speak?
-Yes, act your age, though. -So do it. Stop speaking.
I can't deal with the things that come out of that mouth.
The truth! You can't deal with the truth.
Do you think she was fired because of her husband?
No.
Um, Jo-Ellen, how has all of this affected your career?
-Are you working again? -I was working.
I actually just decided a couple weeks ago
it was just too much right now for me.
So I've decided after, you know, 20-something years of working,
I'm gonna be a stay-at-home mom and, you know, focus on my kids.
-Mm-hmm. -ANDY: All right.
We need to take a break. We'll be right back.
-Andy. -Rulla.
I actually have, um, Brian's surgery records
for the day that alleged video was taken--
his whole entire schedule, just so...
Okay, well, we're taking a 5-minute break.
-Just, it's impossible. -Yeah. Okay, Jo-Ellen.
Anybody can change a date on their dash and everything.
Do you know what he does? He prints out AI things for you
and tells you that he's going to esthetic conferences?
-And he goes with [bleep]. -Oh, my God. Jo-Ellen.
-He does it. -That was before.
-He is the AI queen! -He hasn't been to a conference
in forever. -You are delusional.
Actually, can you share what one of the docs told you...
All you do is make it seem like you're lying.
...when the camera's rolling again, please?
All you do is say it's lying. You didn't even see the video.
It doesn't matter. It was done.
They didn't stop fucking until December.
RULLA: Here she goes.
They were gonna--they were still meeting up in January.
ASHLEY: We definitely need to get Brian out here.
I mean, he can defend himself.
-I'm tired. This subject's done. -Rulla.
-I'm done. -Oh, we can leave?
But I've already told you to stop.
-He's texting her. I'm done. -I'm handling things my own way.
-I stopped. This is the reunion. -But you're not done.
You said you're gonna torture us.
Did you think I wasn't-- You wanna talk shit about me?
-Do you think I-- -You're gonna torture me
until I'm 85 years old? -Did you think that I wasn't
gonna come with proof? -Let it be. Let it be and let--
-I'm done. -No, but you're not done.
-We're here for the reunion. -You're not done.
What did you think was gonna happen at the reunion?
Did you think that something was gonna happen?
Oh, my God. I'm so done. So done.
ANDY: Coming up next...
You're full of fucking shit. Fuck you.
That was so far back, Liz.
You're not gonna win, doll. You're not gonna win.
And it was something that looking bad--
I'm trying to protect you.
So says the biggest psychopath on the planet.
MAN: All right, guys, let's settle in.
3, 2...
Welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
So, Liz, when you said Alicia was never homeless,
you meant what?
From what I remember, my father left us homeless.
I will never hear you say you were homeless.
You were never homeless in your life.
When I initially said, "You were never homeless,"
I was actually shocked that Alicia was saying that.
But I do want you to know this.
[coughs] Cigarette withdrawals.
I never meant to demean your feelings.
The minute I abruptly went, "You were never homeless,"
I was trying to literally protect you,
not only from how it would seem,
but also from, like, any backlash from people
in Rhode Island who wouldn't have taken kindly--
I never wanted to do anything but protect you.
-Thank you. -I swear to you,
I am truly sorry for that. That was never my intention.
-I don't think it was. -You know, in Kabbalah,
they say when you bring red to someone's face,
it's like the greatest sin.
That broke my heart that I did that to you.
And for that, I'm sorry.
I accept your apology. For me, even, like, opening up,
which I didn't even tell Billy any of that, or really...
-Oh, wow. -I was kind of embarrassed
about, like, having a shitty father
'cause everyone that I grew up with and all my cousins,
they all had this, like, wonderful life.
And mine was like, I was, like,
trying to fake it until you make it.
I just felt, like, I got embarrassed.
And then you kept, like, saying, "homeless" and "homeless"
in the car, and I'm like, no! It was just, like,
I just felt like I was, like, suffocating,
and I was so mad that I was, like,
I couldn't control myself. Like, and I hated that I didn't
have control over my emotions, and I didn't think that,
like, you were, like, seeing it that day.
You thought I was attacking you. And I'm like,
"I can't even breathe." Like, this is, like...
-Yeah. -...a gut punch over and over.
-And I--I... -Right.
You know, it was just-- it was just hard.
-I understand that. -I shake when I talk about it.
And, like, I wanna say I actually wasn't
the one who brought it up in the car.
Let's just say,
and I don't wanna go further with this, but let's just say
you both knew that we were gonna be doing that in the car.
My mom-- I told her about my dad,
you know, and she was like, "Good.
Like, you should be talking about this," you know?
And I'm like, I was just so awkward.
You felt ambushed in the car?
I did. They certainly knew that that was going
to be going on and coming up in the car.
-No, Jo, no? -No, Liz.
-No. -No.
No.
Liz, do you think that this was a manufactured situation?
We didn't know three days before that this was
coming up in the car? -No.
-We didn't know? -I didn't know that
any of this was-- -You didn't.
-No. -No.
So I shouldn't talk about, like, six...
We--I didn't send notes-- No one sent--she didn't--
...voice notes you sent me, Jo-Ellen, and Kelsey
about doing this in the car... -Uh, Liz, that's--
And then me saying, "Please don't."
Liz, that is so far--
Why would I--if that was a setup, you would have no idea.
-You told me. -Exactly. You told me.
Why would I tell you if it was a setup?
That's a lie. That's crazy.
So were your feelings manufactured?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have nervous breakdowns.
I should get an Academy Award. I mean, come on.
Like, that's insane. I couldn't breathe, literally,
and I was shaken up for two days.
-Then why do it? Then why do it? -Because you were attacking me,
and you were just like, "You're doing this on purpose."
-Let me ask you a question. So-- -This is why--
Alicia, yeah, you told me. I knew it was coming.
I never told--did I ever say that to you guys?
And you knew, 'cause she told you, and you knew, too.
I'm setting up Liz to fucking have a nervous breakdown
on TV so everyone can see me like that?
I don't know why you wanted to do it.
That's crazy. You can't say that out loud. That's scary.
Should I play it now? I said it out loud.
-Now that scares me. -Let me ask you a question.
-That scares me. -Liz, let me ask you a question.
-It should. It should. -Scary.
-Take accountability. -In the car,
you were upset with Alicia, but then it really turned...
-That's not a sorry. -...to Jo-Ellen.
-Correct. -Why?
Because they both knew it was happening, and I felt ambushed.
-I felt, like, heartbroken. -You were ambushed?
You ambushed me, and then you ambushed her.
You threw her against the fucking thing
and grabbed her hair.
-That's an ambush. -Okay.
I mean, I definitely was surprised
at how quickly this situation escalated.
I felt like, you know, I'm sitting in the back seat.
I don't want them to fight. I'm telling Alicia, stop, Liz, stop.
Like, I'm trying. You know, they're both my friends.
I don't want to see them fighting.
And then it continued into Capo, and it kind of turned
from Liz upset with Alicia, with Liz upset with me,
that I wasn't a good enough mediator in this.
Jo, you can say what you want,
but never once did you go, "Oh, Alicia."
Like, you know her hot-- You know she didn't mean it.
You didn't do that. You were very much,
"You have the right to feel. No one can take that away,
and I understand it."
The consoling and knowing beforehand
that it was gonna happen--
I didn't know any of this was gonna happen.
-What are you talking about? -Alicia and I--
Oh, you didn't listen to your voice memos?
-No. -So the world's
number one detective... -I can show you. I can show you.
After referring...
Do you remember that I was at a concert that day,
and I didn't call you back, and you were, like--
Yes, you were at the Morgan Wallen concert, yeah.
Yeah, and I didn't answer your calls.
-It was three days. -And I was hungover
as fuck the next day.
So the world's number one detective has to be--
I just went past it. There's a thousand more.
Nobody's gonna believe you, Jo-Ellen.
-After being-- -Rulla, stop speaking.
Nobody believes your husband.
This is--I'm talking to you, Jo, not--
That's who people don't believe.
I referred back to those voice messages
a hundred times to you.
I know, and you and I have talked about this.
So the world's number one detective
didn't go and listen to them? -That was so far back.
You're full of fucking shit. Fuck you.
That was so far back, Liz. You took this out on me.
Listen, babe. You're not gonna win, doll.
-You're not gonna win. -And it was something that
you had with Alicia. I said-- -You are not gonna win this.
-Oh, my. -Shut the fuck up.
-We're speaking. -Kiss my ass.
-Did you get the voice memos? -Oh, my God.
You don't have an ass. Your skin's falling off.
I don't have to pump Ozempic to look like this.
You never got it? You never got them?
If I got it, I never opened it. I could scroll up.
-Oh, and still to this day. -Yeah, I'm not gonna go--
We referred to them several times. You still haven't.
-No, I still have not. -You, the world's
number one investigator. All right.
When we talked, like, 57,000 texts after that.
I have not scrolled up. -All right. You're full of shit.
And this is why I don't trust a thing you say.
No, it's not that you don't trust me.
You're full of shit. No, I don't trust you.
You don't find me being undying loyalty to you.
No, I don't trust you.
-Alicia, stop. -You're a sick girl.
Liz, you stop. Like, I tried to make it better.
You're a sick girl.
And somehow you twisted it into--
No, you didn't try to make it better. Listen.
-No, I did. How many times-- -The hand on my leg
for three hours?
[gritting teeth] "Calm down." That's not making it better.
Liz, a normal person, if somebody goes like this,
that's like-- -Not your hand, though.
-There's a difference. -No, it's not your body.
-Normal people can be touched. -Not your--
-I don't want your hands on me. -You can't be touched.
-That's not on me. -So if on the first time saying,
"Get your hand off me"... -I'm trying to tell you,
"Hey, calm down." -You should have taken it off.
-That's an act of affection. -Nah, not with you.
-That's-- -It's a manipulative, weird...
No, that's me being like, "Please stop.
You're looking bad." I'm trying to protect you.
You're saying you're trying to protect Alicia.
-I'm trying to protect you. -From what?
-From looking crazy.
♪♪♪
Oh, okay.
And so I'm like, "Please calm down."
So says the biggest psychopath on the planet.
♪♪♪
I'm trying to protect you. You're saying you're trying
to protect Alicia. I'm trying to protect you.
-You're looking-- -From what?
-From looking crazy.
Oh, okay.
And so I'm like, "Please calm down. Please calm down."
So says the biggest psychopath on the planet. I need water.
I own that I'm a psychopath. I own that.
Okay, and we're gonna leave it there.
We are breaking for lunch.
-Whew. -We have to.
Oh, I'm starving. Perfect timing.
Oh, my God. My feet even hurt, and I'm not even standing.
My heels are so bad. They're way too big.
[gasps] Hi!
I'm back.
Hi, everybody.
All-star, all-star, all-star.
Why don't you eat? I love avocado.
[whooshing]
Lizzie McGuire. Hi!
-Do you wanna talk? -[breathing heavily]
-I have anxiety. -What are you having?
-Water. Do you want some? -Yes.
Yeah. I love a hot water.
I just knew what I was walking into. All knew.
Nah. Felt like an ambush.
It doesn't make sense.
She has these, like, paranoia feelings.
-Mm-hmm. -And she believes
everyone's against her. -Right.
And in reality, you were just telling her how you felt.
And I was trying to de-escalate the situation
'cause we had a 30 more minute ride to Boston.
Right.
You felt ambushed, but I don't think
she necessarily thought that that was gonna happen.
What? You mean when she brought it up and segued into it?
The fact that she started crying and stuff,
I think she thought it was gonna go another way.
You should give her a sash, "Not Homeless." [chuckles]
And you have fucking Rulla talking shit.
Like, shut the fuck-- I don't even.
-Her goddamn nose, her... -[gasps] It was different.
I don't even know who she is.
I have been staring at her fucking face.
-I'm like... -New girl.
-Who is this new cast member? -New girl.
Oh, my God.
Brian didn't do anything to get Jo-Ellen fired.
-That has to stop. -Yeah.
Okay? The guys are gonna be coming soon anyway.
ROSIE: And then it's gonna be, like, you versus Jo-Ellen.
-Bring it. Like-- -You're not scared?
Don't be in our business anymore.
Already owned everything. It's none of your business. Like...
She's so ready to, like, just attack.
-Right? -And they're just fucking lies,
and I don't do well with lies.
-Bye. Love you. -Bye, honey. Love you.
-I'm gonna walk with this. -See you out there, kid.
-Are we going now? -Yeah.
Oh.
♪♪♪
Where am I going?
Should we bring out some crackers?
I really didn't get to eat lunch.
Priscilla, do you have eye drops?
Rulla, can I have you slide a little left?
-Closer to Liz? -Yes.
As long as she promises not to swing at me.
-[imitates laugh] -Stop.
Oh, yeah.
MAN: All right, guys, let's settle in.
4, 3, 2...
We are back
with "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion.
When we left off,
we were talking about Liz feeling ambushed.
Liz, I'm trying to understand why you were so mad at Jo-Ellen.
Because I felt like she was on board with it.
On board with setting you up to discuss this again?
Correct.
Can I ask, though, something, though?
But that's, like, not the case. I would not go after you.
That was, like, more of an attack towards me.
I don't know how you got attacked. I don't--
I don't think anyone attacked you.
Well, it looks that way, but that's not exactly
how it went down. -Liz.
-It might appear that way. -I think that you need to just
take ownership of your behavior in the car.
No. You knew what was happening going in.
-No, I did not. -ANDY: Let me ask you this.
-Is there any chance-- -I need to take ownership
of my behavior? -Yes.
Babe, you are the most cunning, scary human being
that I have ever looked at... -You still can't take ownership.
...in the face in my entire life.
You still can't take ownership of your behavior.
Oh, no, I'm taking ownership of my behavior.
-I'm not excusing it. However-- -Okay.
-Nope, that's where you stop. -However--
You don't do a "however" or a "but."
You say, "I'm taking ownership."
No, I say what the fuck I wanna say, okay?
Okay, well, that's not taking ownership.
-Whether you like it or not... -That's not taking ownership.
...in your cunning, little, sneaky--
-Very sneaky. I see it, Liz. -You are, babe.
I'm not the one that flipped out on Alicia in the car.
-Babe... -I was trying to soothe
the moment between both of you. It's on camera.
No, I think Alicia was amping herself up a bit.
-Oh, my God, Liz. Liz. -She was crying. She was crying.
That's crazy. What's wrong with you? Wake up.
That's why I said you are abusive.
-You're nuts! -When someone says--I'm nuts?
-You're nuts. -I'm nuts? I'm nuts?
Alicia, look, I wanna explain to you, like...
-I'm crazy? -...about that homeless thing.
I attacked you? I know. We set you up.
It's all a setup, Liz. You're right.
It's all a fucking setup. You're right.
-I don't wanna deal with it. -It was.
It's a stupid conversation. Get over yourself.
-You're not that great, okay? -I don't think I am.
Get over yourself. It wasn't a setup.
'Cause if it was a setup, it would be a lot better than that.
Now relax.
Liz, let me ask you this.
Now that you've seen the episode where
Rosie's man is singing quite beautifully from the stage
as there's chaos at the table,
I wanna give you a moment to address
the hair touch and the chair push.
-What did I do? -Good job. You did it.
-Pull my hair again, Liz. -Why am I not being human?
I will literally fucking punch you in the face.
-Stop it, both of you! -You fucking piece of shit.
I am tactile-defensive. All I wanted was space.
If you're tactile-defensive, then why pull my hair?
I just wanted her away from me. I wanted her hands off of me.
When I told you that you did that, you're like,
"No, I didn't."
You pulled my hair. Did you kick my chair?
-Were you aggressive towards me? -I pulled your hair.
-Were you, yes or no? -You're a freak.
You are the fucking devil.
-Yeah, I did it. I was wrong. -Okay.
I just wanted you away from me.
I wasn't physically assaulting you. I pushed your chair.
-I wanted you away from me. -Pulling someone's hair and
kicking them in the chair and pushing my chair twice is not--
What about, like, did you say to me,
"I'll beat the fucking shit out of you"?
-I did say that. -Yeah.
Jo-Ellen, everyone here has witnessed
you exhibit really bizarre fucking behavior...
Fine. Did I ever say I was perfect?
...that you don't show on the camera.
-I own my shit. -All right.
That's the difference between you and me.
-I own it. -It's not okay to do shit.
You can't ever own anything.
-This is mine. -You can't ever own anything
when you're wrong. -But really--
You apologized to Alicia. I wasn't even the one that you
were fighting with in the car. -'Cause I don't think
Alicia has--has an evil intent or a bad heart.
You 100% do.
Do you feel like you owe her an apology
for what happened at Capo? -No.
-Nor will I ever. No.
-That just shows your character. -No. Whatever.
Most people fear being exposed. I fear character manipulation.
Well, you should fear it the next time I pull your hair.
How about that? 'Cause, you know, that's just, like, not--
You're just not nice. You're not a nice person.
-Look at me shake. -You act immature. You act--
That must have really harmed you--
that hair out of place... -Friends don't--
...that I still can't even see what really happened.
What about kicking the chair? What about pushing the chair?
I don't know. Is it normal behavior to have
your devil hands on someone for three hours
when they're telling you to get them off? You incite--
Honestly, who looks like the devil? You do.
You incite rage.
You fought with every single person on the stage.
-Correct. Well, not Ashley. -Who's the devil now?
-Not really. -Sorry, not Ashley.
-LIZ: Not really Ashley. -So who's the devil now?
LIZ: Well, I mean, pretty much so have you.
-You are not a friend, ever. -You know what? You're right.
-You're right. -Alicia, I don't think,
is coming from a bad place. -You're right.
Yeah, but I'm coming from a horrible place.
Jo-Ellen and Liz,
have the two of you ever been in a fight before?
-We have. -Wanna say why?
Because your clothes smelled like smoke,
and you let me borrow your ski suit.
And I said, "Oh, do you want me to wash it beforehand?
I didn't use it." And you said, "No, why would you?"
I said, "Well, it smells like smoke."
And so you didn't like that I said that to somebody,
and I was just trying to dry clean your shit.
I lent it to you over my own kid.
-You didn't tell me that. -You never gave it back, but--
I gave it back. I gave it back the day I got home.
"Kind of smelled like smoke." I didn't even smoke in it.
We had to hide it in the closet because it stunk up
the whole room. I had my children that night.
All right. Okay, so you fought about a smoky snowsuit.
I wonder how this leaves you. I mean, have you--
I thought we recovered.
And then, obviously, watching it back,
I was pretty surprised that Liz didn't text me and be like,
"Hey, listen, I didn't remember doing that.
I'm sorry that I did that."
I think of Liz as a very close friend.
I was just with Liz on Mother's Day
a week and a half, two weeks ago.
But it makes me question, maybe--maybe she's right.
Maybe we're not friends.
When did this narrative come from
that we were ever best friends?
I thought we were, and I was gravely mistaken.
Well, you spent Mother's Day together.
-We never even really got along. -I was gravely mistaken.
You spent Mother's Day together.
Yeah, I picked her up. She was upset because
her mother and sister... -She called me on Mother's Day.
-...left her out. -You called me on Mother's Day
and said, "I'm having a bad day. Do you want to go for a drive?"
We went. We had drinks. I had a good day before that with Gary.
You are one of--You truly are a dangerous motherfucker.
But my mom did not invite me out to Mother's Day.
You embody something... that...my soul rejects.
And I'm sorry that you think I reject you.
You embody something that I have to chase after, like my mother.
You're a narcissist like my mom. You just--
I'm not your ma, babe. I'm not your ma, bitch.
But you are the same exact type of person.
-I'm not your ma, okay? -So I look for love with you,
and maybe I need to just distance myself
from you and her.
Alicia and Liz, where do the two of you stand now?
I will always love Liz. I know that she knows that.
We're good. We're good. I think we are.
I'm never gonna see you and not feel like
I wanna laugh or feel like... -Right.
Aw, Alicia, the other day, I walked in a place and went,
"I love a good fireplace."
And I'm like, what did you just say?
-Like, I mean... -Yeah, I call people "Dolly."
You just bring happy vibes. Like...
...that I really was remorseful that day
and 10 days after that.
Whew.
Okay, and we're gonna leave it there,
and we are gonna be right back.
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Coming up...
I don't know what's bigger,
your mouth or what's between your legs. Bitch, fuck you.
I'm gonna break your fucking nose.
Say something, Rulla. You're fucking nuts.
Welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion.
So, Rosie, you shared some of your issues
with your mom. -Yeah.
-Has she seen the show? -Mm-hmm.
-And? -I don't think she loves it.
Rosie and Jo-Ellen,
you both have had issues with your mom.
Is that something that the two of you bonded over?
Yeah, I think we did. Rosie and I went for a walk,
and we kinda talked about our past, our lives,
and we had a lot of similarities with our mothers.
My mom can be very controlling, and she can be very critical.
It's like the always having a problem,
Nothing's ever good enough.
Rosie, everything you're saying, I'm like, five years
ahead of you right now. -Yeah.
And especially with the way she treats me.
-It doesn't stop hurting. -Mm-hmm.
-I'm never gonna get that... -What you want.
..."I love you, Jo-Ellen."
-Or if you do, it's not real. -It's not real.
We definitely got to know each other a lot better
because of it.
Rosie, at Trivia, you said that Jo-Ellen,
Liz, and Kelsey have a clique. -Mm-hmm.
Why do you think they're so tight,
and how do you feel about it?
They all know each other. They're all from Cranston.
That's probably part of it.
I know that Alicia liking me was like a huge issue for them.
They started calling her the flip-flopper.
I think that they're just protecting each other,
and that's nice.
I think that all three of them jumped down my throat
at the mansion from a backhanded compliment.
Like, there's blind loyalty there.
Rosie, I think that was the first genuine thing
that came out of your mouth.
I actually felt for a second that you were telling the truth.
What have I not told the truth about?
She's giving you a compliment, and you just went
right on the defensive. So she's telling you, like,
"Hey, I thought you were being genuine."
Those were good words.
They were. I thought that was genuine.
In the moment, I was genuine about what I said.
I really did think that that was her--
I mean, she can roll her eyes. That's fine.
-[scoffs] -But I really did think
that she was being genuine.
Looking back on it, watching it,
I was like, ooh, the attitude that I said
sounded a little bit condescending.
-Yeah. -So I get it now,
watching back, but in that moment,
I genuinely did feel like she was being honest.
I think tailing it with "You're being honest for the first time"
was the issue.
Yeah, and--and I mean, listen, I said what I said.
Did you mean more you're being open for the first time,
not honest? -Do you accept her apology?
Well, I don't think that was an apology.
-Oh, was that an apology? -No, it was just an explanation.
Well, she said-- it was an acknowledgement.
ALICIA: I think they were trying to sniff you out.
They wanted to know who your family was.
They wanted to know more about you, who your ex-boyfriend is.
This is just like a Rhode Island thing.
I know that for me, personally, I don't do,
like, the clique thing. I do not do that.
I never had anything against her.
I don't have, like, blind loyalty.
I've made attempts with you.
I've called you if I thought something was nice.
-Mm-hmm. -I don't do that staunch,
"If you hate her, I hate her"
'cause, certainly, no one does that for me.
Jo-Ellen was the one that told me a couple months ago
you had a whole group chat where
you talked shit about me... -I heard that.
...and made them delete it. -I heard that. So, Jo-Ellen--
You know, and hearing other things like that,
so, like, that makes me think, okay, like,
I know Kelsey doesn't like me, clearly.
Jo-Ellen talks shit about me as much as she can.
Then she tells me we're friends. And you hang out with them,
So how am I supposed to know what to do?
So how would I talk about that? Yeah, like,
sometimes we talk shit about you.
Once I started figuring out what this was over here, I'm like,
let's delete the thing and start over again. Right?
So what Jo-Ellen does is she has a dinner with Rosie
and tells Rosie I was so vicious in this text thread,
and I forced them all to delete it.
Not entirely accurate.
We all agreed to delete, you know, and this is
way before we started filming.
But why would you tell her I forced you?
ANDY: So it sounds like Rosie has good reason
to be suspicious of you guys.
We've all said negative things about each other.
This was no different.
ANDY: On "Watch What Happens Live,"
Jo-Ellen said Rosie stopped answering her texts
after the season began airing. -Mm-hmm.
That's not true. Like, I do text her on and off.
There was an extended period of time
where she was just saying really mean things
in the press about me, and it was hurting my feelings
because I thought we were becoming friends.
And then on top of that,
she started making these videos about "Rhode Trippin."
Come with us on our road trip to New York City.
What do you guys eat on a road trip?
I'll tell you my favorite thing in the entire world
for road trips. Slim Jims.
ROSIE: Thinking it was really funny to mock my job.
I did text you about that. My social media girl--
Yeah, but you were making, like, four or five of them.
I don't believe that your social media girl
made you do these video. It was your idea.
My social media girl did it, and I even have the text to her,
and I said, "You have to be really careful.
You called that 'Road Tripping.'"
You did, like, four or five of them.
Rulla, stop speaking.
I don't even know who you are. Who? This is a new cast member.
-Who are you?! Who are you?! -You're in three episodes.
-Who are you?! -Shut the fuck up.
-Fuck you, Jo-Ellen. -I'll get to you in a minute.
No one even knows who you are. Who are you?
I'm way more important than you, bitch.
-No, you're not. -Sit the fuck down.
-All I was gonna say-- -You are nobody.
So good that you're finally speaking.
-You're nobody. -'Cause you were in no episodes.
You're nobody. You're a fucking slut. That's all you are,
in the whole fucking state. -Whoo.
You know what? Guess what. Your husband's a slut.
No, fuck you. You sleep with doctors!
You have it after my husband. You sleep with doctors!
-Sit down. You cannot-- -I don't know what's bigger,
your mouth or what's between your legs, bitch!
I'm gonna break your fucking nose.
Say something, Rulla. You're fucking nuts.
No. You all fucking know! You know!
-Know what? Know what? -You know! You know!
-Know what? -And you all know.
She's a fucking whore, but she wants to point the finger
at everybody else. -Oh, I am? Oh, I'm a whore?
-Your husband's not a whore? -Rulla, no.
Put my husband aside! He's a separate conversation!
Oh, no. You can't even admit that.
Please, bitch.
[dramatic music]
ANDY: Next week, the Reunion continues.
Alicia, I have something here for you.
ANDY: Gerry, Dino is a good friend of yours.
He's become more famous than us, I think.
Listen, you gotta tell Rulla everything.
-So the business... -Yeah.
Did you know that he made the mistress part owner?
Brian, why did you have a tracking device
on Rulla's car?
Brian, did you think, "Oh, well, this is gonna come out"?
[sniffles]