1 00:00:05,189 --> 00:00:05,672 ANDY COHEN: Tonight on 2 00:00:05,772 --> 00:00:08,442 "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion... 3 00:00:08,475 --> 00:00:10,143 Did you drive yourself here tonight? 4 00:00:10,177 --> 00:00:11,712 -I did not. -Good. 5 00:00:11,812 --> 00:00:14,648 Rulla, you look zhuzhed in the face. 6 00:00:14,715 --> 00:00:16,316 -Zhuzhed. -[laughter] 7 00:00:16,350 --> 00:00:17,451 Am I a slam pig--an ugly, promiscuous, fat woman... 8 00:00:17,484 --> 00:00:18,452 I think you're a horrible person, but I don't-- 9 00:00:18,485 --> 00:00:20,254 ...that pumps and dumps. Am I a slam pig? 10 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,322 Well, I don't think that's necessarily the full definition. 11 00:00:22,356 --> 00:00:24,691 -Yes, it is. -Pump and dump? 12 00:00:24,758 --> 00:00:27,027 -[laughs] -I don't know. 13 00:00:27,094 --> 00:00:29,162 You said to me that Gerry's done his thing 14 00:00:29,196 --> 00:00:31,732 when you guys had issues, and you went off 15 00:00:31,798 --> 00:00:33,267 on your merry way, doing your thing. 16 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:36,403 I never shared any kind of infidelity with you. 17 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:38,405 Ashley, how is Audrey's doing now? 18 00:00:38,472 --> 00:00:41,074 It actually has complicated things further. 19 00:00:41,174 --> 00:00:42,993 -You're just as messy as me. -Oh, my God. Here she goes. 20 00:00:43,026 --> 00:00:45,012 So fucking own it, bitch. I own it. 21 00:00:45,078 --> 00:00:46,880 -There she goes. -You don't. Oh. 22 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:49,216 I am Rulla, the Queen of the Proper Police. 23 00:00:49,283 --> 00:00:52,152 You were ambushed. You ambushed me, and then you ambushed her. 24 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:53,987 Do you feel like you owe her an apology 25 00:00:54,121 --> 00:00:55,722 for what happened at Capo? 26 00:00:55,822 --> 00:00:57,991 -No. -That just shows your character. 27 00:00:58,058 --> 00:01:00,560 -You all fucking know. You know! You know! 28 00:01:00,627 --> 00:01:01,929 -Know what? Know what? -You know. 29 00:01:01,995 --> 00:01:03,897 She's a fucking whore, but she won't support 30 00:01:03,964 --> 00:01:05,265 the females, everybody else? -Oh, I am? I'm a whore? 31 00:01:05,332 --> 00:01:06,700 Your husband's not a whore? 32 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:08,060 I don't know what's bigger-- your mouth 33 00:01:08,126 --> 00:01:10,237 or what's between your legs! 34 00:01:11,338 --> 00:01:14,324 ♪♪♪ 35 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:18,512 -Hi! -Hi. 36 00:01:18,545 --> 00:01:20,739 -You ready for today? -No. 37 00:01:20,806 --> 00:01:22,549 This should be interesting. 38 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:24,209 I come with receipts. 39 00:01:25,819 --> 00:01:27,521 -[gasps] -Liz. 40 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:29,856 -Make me beautiful. -[laughs] 41 00:01:29,890 --> 00:01:32,192 I need to be beautiful today. 42 00:01:32,225 --> 00:01:33,827 ♪♪♪ 43 00:01:33,927 --> 00:01:36,380 Like, my whole body is shaking. 44 00:01:36,413 --> 00:01:37,965 Your hair looks so pretty. 45 00:01:38,065 --> 00:01:39,633 Thank you. Your nose looks so pretty. 46 00:01:39,733 --> 00:01:41,301 We all like a little enhancement... 47 00:01:41,368 --> 00:01:42,836 -I know, right? -...or refinement. 48 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:44,338 -I know. -Somethin', somethin'. 49 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:46,440 And she looks a lot younger. Like, I thought she got, like, 50 00:01:46,506 --> 00:01:47,774 a face-lift, if I'm being honest. 51 00:01:49,676 --> 00:01:50,936 -[gasps] -Hey. 52 00:01:51,003 --> 00:01:52,346 No, in a good way. 53 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:53,947 Scary stuff. 54 00:01:54,014 --> 00:01:57,109 WOMAN: It's 9:36, everyone. 9:36. 55 00:01:57,175 --> 00:01:59,411 Hi, guys. 56 00:01:59,444 --> 00:02:00,420 Are we ready? 57 00:02:00,487 --> 00:02:02,723 WOMAN: Ashley's walking the set. 58 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:04,257 -Hi. -ANDY: Hello. 59 00:02:04,291 --> 00:02:05,592 -Hello. -You look gorgeous. 60 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:08,261 -Thank you. -Wow. 61 00:02:08,295 --> 00:02:09,696 -Wow. -Oh, my God. How cute. 62 00:02:09,796 --> 00:02:11,131 -I'm gonna fall into this. -Did you just notice? 63 00:02:14,568 --> 00:02:16,103 -ANDY: Hi. -Hi! 64 00:02:16,169 --> 00:02:17,462 -How are you? -This is a dream! 65 00:02:17,529 --> 00:02:19,973 -You look gorgeous. -Welcome to Rhode Island. 66 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,508 -Hi, Andy. -Hi, Rulla. 67 00:02:21,575 --> 00:02:22,943 Hi, baby. 68 00:02:22,976 --> 00:02:24,803 -You are amazing. -So are you. 69 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:27,447 I'm obsessed with the new Ru-La-La. 70 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:31,652 [dramatic music] 71 00:02:31,718 --> 00:02:33,754 -ANDY: Hi. Wow. -Hi. How are you? 72 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:36,189 You look beautiful. 73 00:02:36,256 --> 00:02:37,991 ♪♪♪ 74 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:41,695 -How you doing? -We're here. We're here. 75 00:02:41,795 --> 00:02:43,789 Wow. This is insane. 76 00:02:43,822 --> 00:02:44,765 Hi. 77 00:02:44,798 --> 00:02:46,533 ♪♪♪ 78 00:02:46,633 --> 00:02:48,502 Oh, everyone looks so pretty. 79 00:02:50,404 --> 00:02:51,471 -You do not. -ANDY: No. 80 00:02:51,538 --> 00:02:52,839 No. 81 00:02:55,709 --> 00:02:59,646 5...4...3...2... 82 00:02:59,713 --> 00:03:00,747 Hey, everybody. Welcome 83 00:03:00,847 --> 00:03:03,183 to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" 84 00:03:03,283 --> 00:03:06,620 Season One Reunion, or should I say, 85 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:08,989 welcome to Rhode Island, bitch? 86 00:03:09,056 --> 00:03:10,490 -[laughter] -I'm Andy Cohen... 87 00:03:10,557 --> 00:03:12,592 [New England accent] ready to shuck some oysters... 88 00:03:12,693 --> 00:03:15,487 [normal voice] ...at this beautiful seaside marina. 89 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,464 But instead, I'm grilling Rhode Island's 90 00:03:17,497 --> 00:03:19,758 most iconic pearls. 91 00:03:19,825 --> 00:03:20,700 Hi, ladies. 92 00:03:20,801 --> 00:03:22,002 -Hi. -Hi, Andy. 93 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:23,637 Liz, good to see you. 94 00:03:23,770 --> 00:03:25,931 -Good to see you. -Did you take your dinghy? 95 00:03:26,031 --> 00:03:27,874 [laughs] No, not today. 96 00:03:27,941 --> 00:03:29,743 -Hi, Alicia. -Hi, Andy. 97 00:03:29,843 --> 00:03:31,511 Did you drive yourself here tonight? 98 00:03:31,545 --> 00:03:33,447 -I did not. -Good. 99 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:34,848 -[laughter] -I know. 100 00:03:34,915 --> 00:03:36,349 Kelsey, I didn't hear a siren when you pulled up. 101 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:38,618 -No, I left that at home today. -You left it at home today. 102 00:03:38,685 --> 00:03:40,153 All right. 103 00:03:40,187 --> 00:03:41,488 -Hey, Jo-Ellen. -Hi, Andy. 104 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:43,448 -Who's watching the kids? -Not my mom. 105 00:03:43,548 --> 00:03:46,526 -Okay. Hi, Rosie. -Hi. 106 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,829 Does this feel like the set of "Rhode Trippin"? 107 00:03:48,895 --> 00:03:50,764 -No, this is way better. -Okay. 108 00:03:50,831 --> 00:03:52,866 -Hi, Ashley. -Hey, Andy. 109 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:54,868 Think we'll get any tears from you today? 110 00:03:54,901 --> 00:03:56,361 -Absolutely. -Yes? 111 00:03:56,394 --> 00:03:57,571 -[laughs] -Hi, Rulla. 112 00:03:57,671 --> 00:03:58,797 Hi, Andy. 113 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:01,299 You look...zhuzhed in the face. 114 00:04:01,399 --> 00:04:02,776 -Zhuzhed. -[laughter] 115 00:04:02,843 --> 00:04:04,377 Talk to me about what's different. 116 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:07,973 Well, after 25 years of debate, 117 00:04:08,073 --> 00:04:10,083 I finally decided to just go ahead 118 00:04:10,150 --> 00:04:12,886 and get my rhinoplasty. -So good. 119 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:16,056 And a very minuscule lip lift while I was at it. 120 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:18,583 Okay, well, you ladies went from kind of 121 00:04:18,650 --> 00:04:22,762 regular Rhode Islanders to Real Housewives. 122 00:04:22,829 --> 00:04:24,931 I'm so curious what that was like for you. 123 00:04:24,998 --> 00:04:27,300 Alicia, how has the journey been? 124 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:29,202 Um, I just feel like it's a dream. 125 00:04:29,236 --> 00:04:30,971 -Love it. Love a cracker. -[laughter] 126 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:32,764 Who knew that crackers would take off like that? 127 00:04:32,831 --> 00:04:35,100 Like, it's just wild. You know, you don't know 128 00:04:35,167 --> 00:04:36,776 your personality until you see yourself on TV. 129 00:04:36,843 --> 00:04:40,547 Yes. I'm curious how folks in Rhode Island 130 00:04:40,647 --> 00:04:42,073 are reacting to the show. 131 00:04:42,107 --> 00:04:44,050 Liz, what are you hearing on the streets? 132 00:04:44,084 --> 00:04:48,088 I think initially, Rhode Island was very anti, 133 00:04:48,155 --> 00:04:49,990 you know, NIMBYism, not in my backyard, 134 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:54,352 no, stay out, but, um, I think that now people have... 135 00:04:54,419 --> 00:04:55,921 They're embracing it. 136 00:04:55,954 --> 00:04:57,455 They're embracing it and looking for themselves in backgrounds. 137 00:04:57,522 --> 00:04:58,932 -Right. -Yeah. 138 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:02,961 Nothing like this is--really ever happens in our tiny state. 139 00:05:03,028 --> 00:05:06,598 One thing that made you all so fun to watch 140 00:05:06,631 --> 00:05:08,633 is your deep connections. 141 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:12,212 Some of you have actually known each other since birth. 142 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:14,948 Liz, who have you known the longest in this group--Alicia? 143 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:18,018 Alicia. I do remember when she was born. 144 00:05:18,118 --> 00:05:20,320 -I actually remember the day. -Wow. 145 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:22,756 She was closer in age to my niece. 146 00:05:22,789 --> 00:05:23,982 Her niece was like my sister. 147 00:05:24,049 --> 00:05:26,159 Like, literally, we, like, took baths together. 148 00:05:26,226 --> 00:05:28,261 We did everything together. We played dolls together. 149 00:05:28,361 --> 00:05:30,797 Is that when you fell in love with dolls? 150 00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:32,599 Yeah. She probably knows my obsession. 151 00:05:32,632 --> 00:05:34,367 She actually wrote to me about the horse. 152 00:05:34,434 --> 00:05:35,735 You know how I said I loved a horse? 153 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:38,538 -I love a horse. -[laughter] 154 00:05:38,605 --> 00:05:41,107 -Wait, what? -Uh, just in general? 155 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:43,443 I do. She used to ride horses. 156 00:05:43,577 --> 00:05:46,847 I tried riding a horse, and I had welts all over me, 157 00:05:46,913 --> 00:05:48,615 and I couldn't ride a horse with her, and we cried. 158 00:05:48,648 --> 00:05:50,508 -But you love a horse. -I love a horse. 159 00:05:50,575 --> 00:05:52,886 -But you get welts from a horse. -Yeah, I can't ride them. 160 00:05:52,953 --> 00:05:54,955 -I could never ride a horse. -Oh, well, that's a twist. 161 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:56,990 Yeah, it's messed up. 162 00:05:57,057 --> 00:06:02,963 What was your reaction, group, to viewers 163 00:06:02,996 --> 00:06:06,032 really having a hard time telling you all apart 164 00:06:06,099 --> 00:06:07,534 at the beginning? 165 00:06:07,601 --> 00:06:09,761 Viewers thought that you all looked alike. 166 00:06:09,861 --> 00:06:11,404 Honestly, a compliment. 167 00:06:11,504 --> 00:06:13,506 I'd be happy with any of these faces on mine. 168 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:15,075 -That's nice. -Aw, so sweet. 169 00:06:15,141 --> 00:06:16,434 Liz, what was your reaction? 170 00:06:16,534 --> 00:06:18,378 Yeah, I never-- I didn't see it. 171 00:06:18,445 --> 00:06:20,947 -I didn't--I didn't get it. -I mean, it is striking 172 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:23,350 how much you and Dolores favor each other. 173 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:27,053 We have photos together before I ever even met her doctor. 174 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,323 And I think that we actually looked more alike then. 175 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:32,058 -Oh, really? -Yeah. 176 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:34,661 You didn't bring a Dolores picture as inspo? 177 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:36,196 -Never. -No. Okay. 178 00:06:36,263 --> 00:06:37,389 -No. -Okay. 179 00:06:37,455 --> 00:06:39,099 I mean, when I was watching 180 00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:41,635 this show at the beginning, the early cuts, 181 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:45,472 I was like, Rosie and Kelsey look so much alike. 182 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:46,773 -I don't see that at all. -I don't see it. 183 00:06:46,873 --> 00:06:48,174 -I really don't. -I mean, I don't hate 184 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:50,210 the comparison, but I don't see it. 185 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:55,715 Seemed like you made nice at Rulla's Arabian Nights party. 186 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,518 I apologize for hurting your feelings. 187 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,704 We should just, like, move forward. 188 00:07:00,737 --> 00:07:02,188 Where do things stand now? 189 00:07:02,322 --> 00:07:05,083 I mean, I said I would coexist, and I'm still trying to coexist. 190 00:07:05,150 --> 00:07:08,762 I think I--my apology was pretty aligned with her apology. 191 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:10,597 And then she goes in her confessional saying 192 00:07:10,697 --> 00:07:12,599 it was the worst apology of her life. 193 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:14,234 That's not a real apology. 194 00:07:14,301 --> 00:07:16,770 This is the worst apology I've ever gotten in my entire life. 195 00:07:16,836 --> 00:07:20,073 It just didn't seem like she was interested in actually 196 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:21,474 putting the apology into place. -At that moment, why would I 197 00:07:21,574 --> 00:07:23,476 be interested? You've only ever done mean things to me, 198 00:07:23,543 --> 00:07:25,228 and your apology was the worst apology ever. 199 00:07:25,261 --> 00:07:26,229 [mockingly] "I've never done anything to you. 200 00:07:26,262 --> 00:07:27,172 I've never done anything to you." 201 00:07:27,238 --> 00:07:29,240 And your apology was much better? 202 00:07:29,274 --> 00:07:30,784 After you said that, why the fuck would I be like, 203 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:32,510 "Here's a heartfelt apology"? -No, I said I'm sorry 204 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:33,887 for my reaction to you, which is honestly 205 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,155 more than you fucking deserve. 206 00:07:35,255 --> 00:07:36,389 And I said I'm sorry for hurting your feelings. 207 00:07:36,523 --> 00:07:40,060 ANDY: Kelsey and Rosie, what even started the feud? 208 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:41,661 It can't be a haircut. 209 00:07:41,761 --> 00:07:43,021 Every person who's done your makeup, 210 00:07:43,121 --> 00:07:45,565 every person that's done your hair, you always post. 211 00:07:45,598 --> 00:07:49,085 I appreciated you asking me to do the haircut. 212 00:07:49,119 --> 00:07:50,804 You never posted anything. 213 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:52,105 It's not my job to take a picture 214 00:07:52,172 --> 00:07:54,265 of the back of my fucking head, Kelsey! 215 00:07:54,299 --> 00:07:57,811 I was privy to a lot of information prior to filming, 216 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:00,747 and it was more of 217 00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:02,649 a personality thing and this, like, 218 00:08:02,716 --> 00:08:06,486 competitive nature that I felt like she always had towards me. 219 00:08:06,553 --> 00:08:08,288 I feel like I tried to get along with her, 220 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:09,939 and I tried to get to know her. 221 00:08:09,973 --> 00:08:12,425 You know, the haircut was a prime example. 222 00:08:12,459 --> 00:08:15,095 It wasn't about just her necessarily 223 00:08:15,228 --> 00:08:17,297 not posting that one time. 224 00:08:17,364 --> 00:08:19,499 It was all the months that came after it 225 00:08:19,566 --> 00:08:23,795 where you didn't post, but you posted everybody else. 226 00:08:23,828 --> 00:08:25,205 The way that Kelsey words it, seems as if the post 227 00:08:25,271 --> 00:08:27,374 was more important to you than the friendship 228 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,342 or developing a friendship. 229 00:08:29,409 --> 00:08:31,011 As an influencer, 230 00:08:31,111 --> 00:08:33,671 who was right and who was wrong regarding the posting? 231 00:08:33,738 --> 00:08:36,916 There was no discussion that there would be any posting. 232 00:08:36,983 --> 00:08:38,818 And I think that because she paid you, 233 00:08:38,885 --> 00:08:41,154 and she has the Venmo receipt of that... 234 00:08:41,221 --> 00:08:42,722 I'm not negating that she paid me. 235 00:08:42,789 --> 00:08:45,191 And sending a very nice text message 236 00:08:45,258 --> 00:08:47,585 and referring people. I would have totally helped you. 237 00:08:47,685 --> 00:08:49,162 So you didn't know Alicia any more than you knew me, 238 00:08:49,229 --> 00:08:51,131 but you were posting Pizza Mamma like it was nothing 239 00:08:51,264 --> 00:08:52,766 all the time. You posted a recommendation. 240 00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:54,134 Well, I ordered Pizza Mamma. It was really good. 241 00:08:54,167 --> 00:08:55,668 I was with somebody else. You know what I mean? 242 00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:57,303 Okay, you came to get a haircut from me. It was really good. 243 00:08:57,370 --> 00:08:59,873 It's a little weird that you're, like, taking notes of this. 244 00:08:59,973 --> 00:09:01,274 Like, it's okay you don't like me, 245 00:09:01,341 --> 00:09:02,909 but there's a lot of excuses. 246 00:09:02,976 --> 00:09:04,602 There's never any accountability. 247 00:09:04,702 --> 00:09:06,946 You've never given me the chance either. 248 00:09:07,013 --> 00:09:08,982 -Do you like her? -I don't like how-- 249 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:11,042 She's like a silent killer to me. 250 00:09:11,109 --> 00:09:13,186 Like, in the show, 251 00:09:13,219 --> 00:09:16,022 she'll be fine to my face, but behind the scenes, 252 00:09:16,056 --> 00:09:17,690 and when she does, when she gets home, 253 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:19,659 like, she instigates me the entire time. 254 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:21,594 Instigates you? What have I done that instigates you? 255 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:24,497 -Yes, you do. You post-- -Do I know the feeling of that. 256 00:09:24,531 --> 00:09:27,500 Rosie, where'd you get the term "slam pig" from? 257 00:09:27,634 --> 00:09:29,102 You're a fucking slam pig! 258 00:09:29,202 --> 00:09:31,237 Don't ever fucking come for me again! 259 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:32,689 -I'm a pig? -You're a slam pig! 260 00:09:32,722 --> 00:09:35,208 So I actually learned it from one of Alicia's friends. 261 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:37,402 You are so not a slam pig, by the way. 262 00:09:37,469 --> 00:09:39,846 -But I love that word. -...like when she says "whore," 263 00:09:39,979 --> 00:09:42,382 it's like it's a similar thing. It's like we're not saying it 264 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:44,451 'cause you fit the definition perfectly. 265 00:09:44,551 --> 00:09:46,377 It's just like, Sally the slam pig. 266 00:09:46,411 --> 00:09:47,787 Sally the slammer. Don't forget that one. 267 00:09:47,854 --> 00:09:49,522 ROSIE: It's a great word, and I do love when-- 268 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:50,890 [New England accent] Slammer? 269 00:09:50,957 --> 00:09:53,426 Sally the slammer. It's really Sally the slam pig. 270 00:09:53,493 --> 00:09:54,961 -Yeah. -Is Kelsey one? 271 00:09:55,028 --> 00:09:56,321 Look, "slam pig" is just a word you use when you're pissed off, 272 00:09:56,421 --> 00:09:57,430 you know? -Not really. 273 00:09:57,530 --> 00:09:59,299 "Sally the slam pig." It came out of my mouth. 274 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,734 I told her to get the fuck outta my house 75 million times. 275 00:10:01,801 --> 00:10:03,094 -She wasn't leaving. -So am I a slam pig? 276 00:10:03,161 --> 00:10:04,337 An ugly, promiscuous, fat woman... 277 00:10:04,404 --> 00:10:05,538 I think you're a horrible person, but I don't-- 278 00:10:05,572 --> 00:10:07,006 ...that pumps and dumps. Am I a slam pig? 279 00:10:07,073 --> 00:10:08,675 Well, I don't think that's necessarily the full definition. 280 00:10:08,775 --> 00:10:10,110 Yes, it is. 281 00:10:10,176 --> 00:10:11,778 -Pump and dump? -Am I a slam pig? 282 00:10:11,845 --> 00:10:13,046 I don't think you're a slam pig. I just think you were 283 00:10:13,079 --> 00:10:14,405 being a bitch to me. -So then why'd you say it? 284 00:10:14,439 --> 00:10:15,782 So now we're saying things that we don't mean. Okay. 285 00:10:15,849 --> 00:10:18,418 But, like, at least I can take accountability for it 286 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:19,619 and be like, look... -You can't, at all. 287 00:10:19,686 --> 00:10:21,588 -Wasn't my best moment. -You can't at all. 288 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,623 Okay. She comes after my house. She comes after my career. 289 00:10:23,723 --> 00:10:25,758 She comes after my finances. She comes after 290 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:28,077 everything about me, but God forbid we call her a slam pig. 291 00:10:28,111 --> 00:10:29,329 -It's just a little too much. -When have I ever said 292 00:10:29,395 --> 00:10:31,631 anything to you? You call everything from me an attack. 293 00:10:31,731 --> 00:10:34,134 I've never forcefully or violently attacked you ever. 294 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:36,194 It wasn't forceful or violent when you came 295 00:10:36,294 --> 00:10:37,403 to a siren with my house? -Ever. 296 00:10:37,537 --> 00:10:39,405 [siren wailing] 297 00:10:39,472 --> 00:10:41,032 [amplified voice] House police. 298 00:10:41,132 --> 00:10:42,742 [dog barking] 299 00:10:42,775 --> 00:10:49,215 Suspect says 8,000 square feet. More like 8,000 inches. 300 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:51,401 Show of hands-- who thinks it was funny? 301 00:10:55,021 --> 00:10:57,891 -No shock there. -Okay. 302 00:10:57,991 --> 00:11:01,961 When you watched the show, and you saw her with the siren, 303 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:04,464 did that make you think, oh, she was trying to make a joke? 304 00:11:04,531 --> 00:11:06,032 No, I think she was trying to have another moment 305 00:11:06,132 --> 00:11:08,101 at my expense, and I think she thought I was gonna take it. 306 00:11:08,134 --> 00:11:09,369 Is there a siren ordinance in North Kingstown? 307 00:11:09,435 --> 00:11:11,404 -Yeah, there is. -I'm surprised you don't know. 308 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:13,398 -No, I don't. -So in reference 309 00:11:13,464 --> 00:11:15,166 to the slam pig fight, 310 00:11:15,233 --> 00:11:18,111 uh, Cole Hearted 95 said, "Girl, you cannot emotionally 311 00:11:18,211 --> 00:11:19,946 destroy someone on national TV 312 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:21,648 for trying to joke about your past beef 313 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,216 when you're on camera 314 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:25,510 with CAD drawings and a tape measure, 315 00:11:25,577 --> 00:11:27,845 telling your husband you were gonna do the same thing." 316 00:11:27,912 --> 00:11:29,188 Well, here's the difference. 317 00:11:29,255 --> 00:11:31,191 I was making light of the fact that, like, 318 00:11:31,257 --> 00:11:33,126 this has been such a big thing. She doesn't even have a house. 319 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,028 -She's coming to my house. -Seemed like you were 320 00:11:35,094 --> 00:11:36,896 prepared for a fight, though. -No, I wasn't, actually. 321 00:11:36,996 --> 00:11:40,667 Kelsey, you did say at the castle... 322 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,502 You were like, "Oh, I'm gonna have to see the blueprints." 323 00:11:42,569 --> 00:11:45,238 [mouth full] I pulled a PDF of her plan. 324 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:47,073 Or, like, blue paper. What are they called? 325 00:11:47,173 --> 00:11:48,641 -Like, the... -Blueprint? 326 00:11:48,741 --> 00:11:50,577 I don't care. I hope you build the Taj Mahal, babe. 327 00:11:50,677 --> 00:11:51,844 -Oh, my God. -I don't care. 328 00:11:51,911 --> 00:11:54,514 -It's not about the number. -It is about the number. 329 00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:56,015 It's about the embellishments, about everything. Yes, it is. 330 00:11:56,082 --> 00:11:58,017 You know what it was about? It was about you discrediting me. 331 00:11:58,084 --> 00:11:59,586 And you've been accusing me of having two affairs, 332 00:11:59,652 --> 00:12:02,355 which aren't true, of getting fired, which wasn't true. 333 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:04,382 So you said I'm not actually a slam pig. 334 00:12:04,449 --> 00:12:05,892 Do I suck dick for a career? 335 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:07,927 I mean, I kind of do think you did that for the last 10 years, 336 00:12:08,027 --> 00:12:09,362 if I'm being honest. -Oh, so how? How? 337 00:12:09,395 --> 00:12:10,897 Well, the only other coworker you had 338 00:12:10,997 --> 00:12:13,524 was a girlfriend in Florida. 339 00:12:18,137 --> 00:12:19,238 That was your whole thing, right? 340 00:12:19,305 --> 00:12:20,473 Did you suck your husband's dick? 341 00:12:20,540 --> 00:12:21,708 Not really. It's not really my thing. 342 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:24,844 Well, let me know when you want a divorce lawyer. 343 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:27,447 Jo-Ellen, you and Kelsey both questioned 344 00:12:27,513 --> 00:12:29,807 whether Rosie slept with a coach. 345 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:31,351 Where did that rumor come from? 346 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:33,219 This was on Reddit three and a half years ago. 347 00:12:33,286 --> 00:12:34,554 I think he was asking me. 348 00:12:34,621 --> 00:12:36,422 Okay, well, go for it. It's only my life. 349 00:12:36,489 --> 00:12:37,857 It was on Reddit three and a half years ago? 350 00:12:37,991 --> 00:12:39,192 Yeah, when I went on medical leave. 351 00:12:39,325 --> 00:12:41,628 Was that much interest in you from "Rhode Trippin"? 352 00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:44,430 No. It was because I was on NBC 10, which was, 353 00:12:44,497 --> 00:12:45,531 like, the number one station in Rhode Island. 354 00:12:45,565 --> 00:12:46,899 We had, like, 90% viewership. 355 00:12:46,966 --> 00:12:48,601 And when I was doing traffic through the morning show 356 00:12:48,668 --> 00:12:50,470 and lifestyle was, like, the number one lifestyle show. 357 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:52,238 And so they were like, "Where is Rosie? Where is Rosie?" 358 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:53,906 And I wasn't telling anyone I was on medical leave 359 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:55,408 'cause I was bleeding out of my butt. 360 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:57,477 So instead, I just, like, disappeared. 361 00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:59,445 And during that time, he was having an affair 362 00:12:59,545 --> 00:13:02,181 with, like, a student reporter at the school. 363 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:04,751 -It wasn't a student reporter. -It was a student reporter. 364 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:06,569 How do you know this? 365 00:13:06,602 --> 00:13:09,906 If it was a student and a faculty member, 366 00:13:09,939 --> 00:13:11,858 that would have been heavily investigated. 367 00:13:11,924 --> 00:13:13,785 There was a cop that pulled him over with you in the car. 368 00:13:13,851 --> 00:13:15,662 I wasn't in the car, Kelsey. 369 00:13:15,728 --> 00:13:17,263 ♪♪♪ 370 00:13:17,296 --> 00:13:18,531 He was getting a DUI, 371 00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:20,525 and your name is in the police report. 372 00:13:20,725 --> 00:13:24,804 ♪♪♪ 373 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:27,340 ANDY: Coming up... 374 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:28,675 -You are nobody. -Rulla, I'm so glad 375 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:29,842 that you're finally speaking. -You're nobody. 376 00:13:29,942 --> 00:13:31,144 -'Cause you were in no episodes. -You're a nobody. 377 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:33,137 You're a fucking slut. That's all you are-- 378 00:13:33,204 --> 00:13:34,314 in the whole fucking state. 379 00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:35,615 You know what? You know what? Guess what. 380 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,750 -Your husband's a slut. -No, fuck you! 381 00:13:37,784 --> 00:13:39,944 ♪♪♪ 382 00:13:45,258 --> 00:13:47,552 There was a cop that pulled him over with you in the car. 383 00:13:47,585 --> 00:13:49,095 It never came out. I wasn't in the car, Kelsey. 384 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:50,988 He was getting a DUI, 385 00:13:51,089 --> 00:13:53,066 and your name is in the police report. 386 00:13:53,132 --> 00:13:55,268 My name isn't in the police report, Jo-Ellen. 387 00:13:55,368 --> 00:13:57,236 -I don't know him. -I'm worried 388 00:13:57,270 --> 00:13:59,397 about the police report because I know it's not true. 389 00:13:59,464 --> 00:14:01,457 And I don't know why you guys are so convinced it's true. 390 00:14:01,491 --> 00:14:03,776 -Get me the police report. -I'm telling you, 391 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:05,244 I've never met him. -You had just went-- 392 00:14:05,278 --> 00:14:06,437 Okay, go and get it. Go and get it. 393 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:08,139 Somebody who works at PC for the last 20-- 394 00:14:08,239 --> 00:14:09,599 Go and get it. It's not true. Go and get it. 395 00:14:09,665 --> 00:14:11,718 First off, you can cite whatever you want. 396 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:13,244 -Three and a half years. -You can say whatever you want. 397 00:14:13,311 --> 00:14:14,487 There's never been a picture. There's never been a video. 398 00:14:14,587 --> 00:14:15,988 -There's never been anything. -Because he was married. 399 00:14:16,055 --> 00:14:17,281 -Because he was the coach of a-- -He's still married. 400 00:14:17,348 --> 00:14:18,858 They moved away. I don't know him! 401 00:14:18,925 --> 00:14:20,960 I think it was another girl. I think it was a student. 402 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:22,962 -That's what I heard. -It was a student. 403 00:14:23,029 --> 00:14:24,564 Everyone knows Rosie Woods' reputation 404 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:26,099 is linked to that post. -Honestly, 405 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,859 I didn't find him attractive, Rosie, so I don't think-- 406 00:14:27,959 --> 00:14:29,969 -Nobody knows my reputation. -To me, I've obviously heard 407 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:32,772 that you did it, but he's not cute. Like, he's not-- 408 00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:34,157 I don't think that he's your type-- 409 00:14:34,190 --> 00:14:35,366 He's not attractive. I didn't have an affair with him. 410 00:14:35,466 --> 00:14:37,335 Jo-Ellen, why have you seen the police report? 411 00:14:37,435 --> 00:14:38,803 I have not seen the police report. 412 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:40,313 I've talked to a few officers that wrote the police report. 413 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:41,814 -Oh. -Yeah. So again, lying. 414 00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:43,616 -Of course you did. -I know. Detective. 415 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,017 I've never met him, 416 00:14:45,118 --> 00:14:46,386 so I'm not in the police report. -ANDY: Okay. 417 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:48,855 Like, this is so fucking stupid. Get me the police report, 418 00:14:48,921 --> 00:14:49,989 and we'll talk about it. You don't have it. 419 00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:51,491 -I don't have it. -You haven't seen it. 420 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:53,151 She hasn't seen it. Nobody's seen it 'cause it's not real. 421 00:14:53,217 --> 00:14:55,228 Liz, do you think Kelsey's hard on Rosie? 422 00:14:55,294 --> 00:14:56,929 No, I think that they just 423 00:14:56,996 --> 00:14:59,791 completely misunderstand each other, 424 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:02,393 and they may be more alike than we know. 425 00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:04,303 When I say it, it pisses Rosie off. 426 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:06,773 She showed up to my house with a fucking siren, 427 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:09,041 and then she showed up to Audrey's with a sash. 428 00:15:09,142 --> 00:15:11,869 She's beauty. She's grace. 429 00:15:11,969 --> 00:15:13,980 She's Miss Slam Pig United States. 430 00:15:14,046 --> 00:15:15,164 I'm done with that. 431 00:15:15,231 --> 00:15:17,041 I put on a sash and crown, and you're mad? 432 00:15:17,141 --> 00:15:18,334 Yeah, 'cause everything you do is fucking mean. 433 00:15:18,401 --> 00:15:19,710 -You did call her a slam pig. -Yeah, I am. 434 00:15:19,811 --> 00:15:20,678 So, you know, she was obviously busting balls. 435 00:15:20,745 --> 00:15:23,347 Of course you're gonna defend her. 436 00:15:23,414 --> 00:15:25,191 Well, Rosie and Kelsey, 437 00:15:25,291 --> 00:15:26,826 I don't know what your future is, but... 438 00:15:26,893 --> 00:15:28,319 Yeah, I don't care. 439 00:15:28,352 --> 00:15:30,688 ...it doesn't look great right now. Let's move on. 440 00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:32,098 That was actually funny. 441 00:15:32,198 --> 00:15:36,169 Liz, one of my favorite shots was of Ganji on the dock. 442 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:37,537 Where are you going? 443 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:39,939 Is it too hot for your little feetsies? 444 00:15:40,006 --> 00:15:41,691 Let's go see Dad. 445 00:15:41,757 --> 00:15:44,861 And I'm so sorry. 446 00:15:44,927 --> 00:15:47,547 How long did you have your beautiful cat? 447 00:15:47,647 --> 00:15:49,048 -12 years. -12 years. 448 00:15:49,148 --> 00:15:51,117 I don't know what happened. It just happened very suddenly. 449 00:15:51,217 --> 00:15:52,218 Really? 450 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:54,345 But, yeah, I think I'm still grieving. 451 00:15:54,378 --> 00:16:00,092 -Yeah. -He, like, literally owned me. 452 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:02,228 In happier news, 453 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:03,788 congratulations on your new grandbaby. 454 00:16:03,888 --> 00:16:05,298 Thank you. 455 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:07,250 How did you come up with the nickname "Gigi"? 456 00:16:07,283 --> 00:16:10,761 I just didn't wanna be a "grand" anything. 457 00:16:10,862 --> 00:16:12,672 -A glam anything. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 458 00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:14,799 And I call the baby "Gigi." 459 00:16:14,866 --> 00:16:17,343 Any timeline for Brianna's wedding? 460 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:19,570 She's looking. She's looking for venues now. 461 00:16:19,604 --> 00:16:21,447 She's ready. 462 00:16:21,547 --> 00:16:24,041 Jeanine from McCall, Idaho, said, 463 00:16:24,075 --> 00:16:26,686 "I think people don't understand how huge that was 464 00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:29,455 for Liz to go from no kids to three kids." 465 00:16:29,522 --> 00:16:32,725 I mean, your life must have completely done a 180. 466 00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:36,654 It did, but I was always up for the challenge, actually. 467 00:16:36,754 --> 00:16:38,064 I actually loved it. 468 00:16:38,097 --> 00:16:41,767 I was surprised to learn that you and Gerry are related. 469 00:16:41,868 --> 00:16:44,103 -So ridiculous. -That was such a little-- 470 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:45,897 Outside of being husband and wife, I mean. 471 00:16:45,930 --> 00:16:47,131 It is true, though. 472 00:16:47,231 --> 00:16:49,275 Like, that was just a little tidbit anecdote. 473 00:16:49,375 --> 00:16:51,410 I didn't think it would ever go anywhere. 474 00:16:51,477 --> 00:16:54,947 It's just funny, but, um, yeah, I found out that 475 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:58,634 something happened along the way with my mom's mom, 476 00:16:58,668 --> 00:17:02,488 and her dad wasn't who she thought it was. 477 00:17:02,588 --> 00:17:04,140 And then you go to find out you're Irish. 478 00:17:04,173 --> 00:17:05,358 -You know? -[laughter] 479 00:17:05,458 --> 00:17:08,494 -You're half Syrian, half Irish? -No, no, no, no. 480 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,129 - No. -I'm just part Irish. Um-- 481 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:11,664 -Part Irish. -Yeah. 482 00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:13,699 I was surprised that you weren't Italian. 483 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:15,793 I thought she was Italian always. 484 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:17,603 I always thought you were Italian. 485 00:17:17,637 --> 00:17:19,472 How did you think she was Italian? You grew up with her. 486 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:20,831 I don't know. I always thought they were Italian. 487 00:17:20,932 --> 00:17:22,375 Well, and they just come across as Italian. 488 00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:23,476 Yeah, no. 489 00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:25,336 Was there ever a time when you and Gerry 490 00:17:25,436 --> 00:17:27,605 were talking about having more kids? 491 00:17:27,672 --> 00:17:30,875 Yeah. Um, I mean, I always wanted a lot of kids, 492 00:17:30,942 --> 00:17:34,211 and Gerry really did, too, and it just never really... 493 00:17:34,312 --> 00:17:36,314 was the right time. 494 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:39,425 Rulla, do you regret saying that Liz couldn't relate 495 00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:41,160 to why you're staying with Brian-- 496 00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:43,646 because she didn't produce the children? 497 00:17:43,713 --> 00:17:48,000 When you produce the kids with somebody, it is a game-changer. 498 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:51,070 Gerry has kids. You don't have your own. 499 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:54,190 You know, I do. I-I guess I felt bad. 500 00:17:54,223 --> 00:17:57,643 I would never mean to offend you, 501 00:17:57,710 --> 00:17:59,211 nor does it make Liz 502 00:17:59,278 --> 00:18:02,640 any less of a mother just 'cause she didn't carry. 503 00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:03,983 Still a fucked up thing to say. 504 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:06,385 But, like, I mean, I don't hold it against you. 505 00:18:06,485 --> 00:18:07,954 Like, I'm not mad--it is. It was. 506 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:11,374 Liz, uh, now that you've sold Gypsy, 507 00:18:11,407 --> 00:18:14,193 has your relationship with Gerry improved? 508 00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:16,662 Yeah. Sometimes I wish he was going back. 509 00:18:16,696 --> 00:18:18,589 We're up each other's asses a lot. 510 00:18:18,656 --> 00:18:20,199 Celeste from Montreal said, 511 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:24,028 "Rulla more than hinted that both Gerry and Liz 512 00:18:24,095 --> 00:18:25,671 have cheated on each other when she said, 513 00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:27,598 'When the cat's away, the mice will play.'" 514 00:18:27,698 --> 00:18:30,376 Liz has shared with me her issues, you know, with Gerry-- 515 00:18:30,476 --> 00:18:33,479 the misunderstandings and indiscretions. 516 00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:37,016 She's done her thing, and he's done his thing. 517 00:18:37,049 --> 00:18:41,370 And they say, when the cat's away, the mice shall play. 518 00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:46,392 It seemed like you were saying it based on knowing something. 519 00:18:46,492 --> 00:18:49,887 I just know that she struggled when Gerry was away 520 00:18:49,954 --> 00:18:53,499 and just used to spend time trying to fill her time, 521 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:55,801 you know, with other things and other support systems. 522 00:18:55,901 --> 00:18:59,105 But have anything confirmed? 523 00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:00,890 Just bustin' her chops. 524 00:19:00,956 --> 00:19:02,608 That's not funny. 525 00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:04,944 Is it busting chops or... 526 00:19:05,044 --> 00:19:06,946 -[laughs] Busting chops. -What was your reaction, Liz? 527 00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:09,081 Well, you look like you wanna say something. 528 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:10,708 Say it. I don't care. 529 00:19:10,741 --> 00:19:12,918 No, I mean, you know, Liz and I have had, like, 530 00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:16,055 some chats in the past about things and struggles, 531 00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:20,242 but to know of anything definitively, like... 532 00:19:20,309 --> 00:19:24,263 I would like you to articulate the chats that we had 533 00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:28,334 where I've shared with you, like, any kind of infidelity. 534 00:19:30,102 --> 00:19:34,173 Did you openly share any infidelity with me? 535 00:19:34,206 --> 00:19:36,675 That's what I wanna know. 536 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:43,007 -You have to think about that? -No. 537 00:19:43,074 --> 00:19:45,151 -All right. I didn't think so. -No. 538 00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:47,353 I've been places where you've been. 539 00:19:47,386 --> 00:19:48,621 I know you have. 540 00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:49,922 I've been on Block Island where you've been, and... 541 00:19:49,989 --> 00:19:52,925 -I know you have. -Where have you been together? 542 00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:54,427 You said, "We've been places." 543 00:19:54,460 --> 00:19:57,688 Say--please say it. I'm-- I am dying for you to say it. 544 00:19:57,788 --> 00:19:59,315 Because I've been meaning to thank you for this 545 00:19:59,348 --> 00:20:02,435 for, like, four years, so come out with it. 546 00:20:02,501 --> 00:20:04,787 But wait. Why do you want to thank her for? I'm confused. 547 00:20:04,854 --> 00:20:07,706 Well, hold on. Let her say it. What'd you see, Rulla? 548 00:20:07,773 --> 00:20:10,134 No, I mean, Liz-- 549 00:20:10,201 --> 00:20:12,645 hanging out with other people, having a good time. 550 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:14,146 -Might have been... -Kissing? 551 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,132 Getting close to so-- 552 00:20:16,198 --> 00:20:19,043 [sighs heavily] 553 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:21,454 Rulla, when you hint at something, 554 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,782 now let's speak on it, and now I can answer you. 555 00:20:24,815 --> 00:20:26,492 It was one instance. 556 00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:29,695 There was a time when Gerry and I were separated. 557 00:20:29,762 --> 00:20:32,098 It was Labor Day weekend. 558 00:20:32,131 --> 00:20:34,483 I went to Block Island with my girlfriends 559 00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:39,138 and, um, met up with someone I hadn't seen in, like, 30 years. 560 00:20:39,205 --> 00:20:41,966 It was fun. It was a guy. He was throwing me up in the air. 561 00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:43,567 We're dancing. We're all over the place. 562 00:20:43,667 --> 00:20:46,445 The next day, Gerry got a phone call at 6 a.m. 563 00:20:46,512 --> 00:20:47,746 ♪♪♪ 564 00:20:47,847 --> 00:20:49,982 And it was Rulla and Brian. 565 00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:54,378 ♪♪♪ 566 00:20:59,316 --> 00:21:01,026 Gerry and I were separated. 567 00:21:01,127 --> 00:21:05,197 I went to Block Island with my girlfriends and, um, 568 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:09,660 met--met up with someone I hadn't seen in, like, 30 years. 569 00:21:09,727 --> 00:21:12,705 The next day, Gerry got a phone call at 6 a.m., 570 00:21:12,738 --> 00:21:14,774 and it was Rulla and Brian, and I-- 571 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,042 Wait. What are you talking about? Liz, that is a lie. 572 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:19,478 -Anyway, that was the goal... -That-- 573 00:21:19,512 --> 00:21:21,505 ...for Gerry to find out. That was the goal. 574 00:21:21,572 --> 00:21:23,082 -Liz. Liz. -I wasn't trying to hide it. 575 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:26,010 -That is a blatant lie. -Oh, God, no. Please, no. 576 00:21:26,076 --> 00:21:27,386 -Okay, we'll ask-- -Go ahead. 577 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:28,846 Subpoena phone records from then. And, Liz, Liz-- 578 00:21:28,913 --> 00:21:30,489 LIZ: I don't wanna subpoena anything. I don't give a shit. 579 00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:31,849 Subpoena? 580 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:32,725 You're screaming like an animal right now. 581 00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:34,560 Liz, why--why would--Liz, no. 582 00:21:34,593 --> 00:21:36,187 She's so aggressive. 583 00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:37,922 -Ask Gerry when he gets here. -Shut your mouth, Jo-Ellen. 584 00:21:37,955 --> 00:21:39,431 I'm sick and tired of your fucking mouth. 585 00:21:39,532 --> 00:21:41,867 -Shut your mouth. -Why don't you... 586 00:21:41,901 --> 00:21:43,394 -Shut your mouth. -Shut the fuck up. 587 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:44,570 -RULLA: You shut the fuck up. -I'll get to you when I'm ready. 588 00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:45,671 -You're gonna have your time. -Shut your mouth. 589 00:21:45,704 --> 00:21:47,064 Just, this is not about Jo-Ellen. 590 00:21:47,131 --> 00:21:47,965 Sorry you're caught. You and your husband 591 00:21:48,065 --> 00:21:49,141 love to call people. -Stop. 592 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:51,735 We're not call--Liz, but I don't know what-- 593 00:21:51,802 --> 00:21:52,912 You thought you had your "aha!" moment. 594 00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:54,305 My husband told me on the way to your-- 595 00:21:54,371 --> 00:21:56,982 What are you--Why would I want to have an "aha!" moment? 596 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:58,651 What did I ever have against you? We're all-- 597 00:21:58,751 --> 00:22:01,453 -I mean... -Liz, Liz, that is a lie. 598 00:22:01,554 --> 00:22:03,480 -But so... -And I would love to-- 599 00:22:03,581 --> 00:22:05,591 -Let's just say when the mice-- -That--I don't like this. 600 00:22:05,624 --> 00:22:07,560 The cat's away, the mice will play. 601 00:22:07,626 --> 00:22:09,061 -This, this, I don't like. -LIZ: The thing is-- 602 00:22:09,128 --> 00:22:10,321 I don't go calling this, that, the other thing. 603 00:22:10,387 --> 00:22:11,597 You're screaming like a fucking nut right now. 604 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:12,731 -Now you're irritating me. -I'm not being a nut. 605 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:14,300 You're accusing me of something that I didn't do. 606 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,794 She's not really screaming. I've heard a lot of screaming. 607 00:22:16,827 --> 00:22:19,772 You guys have all screamed. I have not screamed all season. 608 00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:21,073 -You did. -But--But excuse me. 609 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:22,408 -Rulla, excuse me. -Four years ago, you called 610 00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:23,842 Gerry, thinking you knew. -Saying--saying, 611 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:26,545 "While the cat's away, the mice will play," 612 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,814 what you're saying is... something happened. 613 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:30,783 That was the one incident where it was-- 614 00:22:30,816 --> 00:22:31,850 People have seen other things. 615 00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:33,444 I don't wanna get involved in it. 616 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:34,954 All right? I considered her a-- 617 00:22:34,987 --> 00:22:37,081 "People have seen other things." Like-- 618 00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:38,457 Liz, I--like, well, you just admitted. 619 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:39,625 I don't think it's that it's a secret. 620 00:22:39,725 --> 00:22:40,993 I asked you what I ever shared with you. 621 00:22:41,093 --> 00:22:43,821 You said, "Liz shared with me some infidelities..." 622 00:22:43,854 --> 00:22:46,432 Yes, the issues that you--the issues that you and Gerry had. 623 00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:48,634 Yeah, I had a blast that night, and I'm glad you told me, 624 00:22:48,734 --> 00:22:49,902 because that was the objective. -You said to me... 625 00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:52,438 You said to me that Gerry's done his thing 626 00:22:52,538 --> 00:22:54,440 when you guys had issues, and you went off 627 00:22:54,473 --> 00:22:56,367 on your merry way, doing your thing. 628 00:22:56,467 --> 00:22:59,044 No, I never said that to you. 629 00:22:59,111 --> 00:23:03,048 I never shared any kind of infidelity with you ever. 630 00:23:03,115 --> 00:23:04,984 It kind of seems like you're also 631 00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:09,288 alluding to maybe this was not an isolated incident. 632 00:23:09,321 --> 00:23:11,724 Yeah, which is weird, 'cause that really was 633 00:23:11,824 --> 00:23:12,825 the only time that's ever happened in my life. 634 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:15,194 -I'm not alluding to anything. -I'm done. 635 00:23:15,294 --> 00:23:16,362 So you can say people say things. 636 00:23:16,462 --> 00:23:17,830 -You know what? -Bring me that. 637 00:23:17,863 --> 00:23:19,123 I'm done talking about this. I'm done, 'cause it's not-- 638 00:23:19,189 --> 00:23:20,566 There's gonna be no resolution. 639 00:23:20,666 --> 00:23:22,893 But I'm not gonna be accused of doing things 640 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,471 that I haven't done, Liz. -All right, well, then it was 641 00:23:25,537 --> 00:23:28,307 Brian, and you didn't know. -Why would Brian call Gerry? 642 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:30,609 LIZ: Why don't you ask them? 643 00:23:30,643 --> 00:23:31,977 ANDY: Let me ask you about something else. 644 00:23:32,077 --> 00:23:33,479 I can't believe this. 645 00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:37,508 So why did you snap at Kelsey over saying "the ongoing"? 646 00:23:37,574 --> 00:23:42,087 I wanna go down to the seawall with Gerry and Dino. 647 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:46,292 Ongoing what? Rumors? 648 00:23:46,325 --> 00:23:47,926 Ongoing rumors? 649 00:23:47,993 --> 00:23:49,962 -Bye. Bye. -Don't talk about it. 650 00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:51,330 Fuck off. 651 00:23:51,397 --> 00:23:53,032 First of all, that was unwarranted, 652 00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,100 and I'm so sorry. You know this. 653 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,505 But because Kelsey knew the struggle 654 00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:02,032 that I was going through with the... 655 00:24:02,099 --> 00:24:05,444 more of the accusations, it was harmful to our lives. 656 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:06,612 It was embarrassing to me. 657 00:24:06,679 --> 00:24:09,181 So that struggle and coming on here 658 00:24:09,248 --> 00:24:12,117 and hear it come up all over again, 659 00:24:12,217 --> 00:24:13,452 it was like a perfect storm. 660 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:17,056 Kelsey, did you hook up with Dino 661 00:24:17,089 --> 00:24:20,125 before or after you were with your ex? 662 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:24,755 The first year I was competing for Miss Rhode Island 663 00:24:24,788 --> 00:24:26,090 when I did that. 664 00:24:26,123 --> 00:24:29,093 It wasn't something that I was necessarily proud of. 665 00:24:29,126 --> 00:24:31,403 We've been around each other since then, 666 00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:33,005 and I just kind of ignore him. 667 00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:35,399 Yeah. We've been in the same places together. 668 00:24:35,466 --> 00:24:38,010 -Yeah. -Xavier from Tacoma said, 669 00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:41,405 "Alicia, when you lost it on Rosie at Rail Explorers, 670 00:24:41,472 --> 00:24:43,549 it genuinely seemed like you were terrified 671 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:46,919 that Liz would think you were talking behind her back." 672 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:49,521 ROSIE: Alicia, you said she's always like that. 673 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:51,790 -With what? -When she just gets mad. 674 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:54,893 Don't flip that shit. Don't do that to me. 675 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,530 Now welcome to Rhode Island, bitch. This is how we roll. 676 00:24:59,398 --> 00:25:01,633 But I wasn't. I was-- if you heard it, I was saying, 677 00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:04,069 like, she's been through a lot. We're cut from the same cloth. 678 00:25:04,103 --> 00:25:06,038 I just appear a little bit softer. 679 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,432 And I'm scared of, like, I don't wanna fuck with Liz, too. 680 00:25:08,499 --> 00:25:11,076 So when she was saying it, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. 681 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:14,413 ANDY: Ashley, on the show, you said that Liz was scary. 682 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:15,981 Are you scared of Liz? 683 00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:18,951 I still think that Liz is an intimidating figure. 684 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:21,920 She's, like, she has this aura of power. 685 00:25:21,987 --> 00:25:24,189 I know there's many different facets. 686 00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:27,359 Are you surprised to hear that characterization of you? 687 00:25:27,426 --> 00:25:29,495 I have a bold personality. 688 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:33,432 By a show of hands, is anyone here actually scared of Liz? 689 00:25:33,499 --> 00:25:35,968 -Depends on the day. -ANDY: Depends on the day. 690 00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:37,094 Sometimes. 691 00:25:37,161 --> 00:25:38,303 Don't lie just 'cause I'm sitting here. 692 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,098 -At Capo, I was. -At Capo, I was. 693 00:25:41,165 --> 00:25:45,310 -Oh, were you? Aw. -All right, let's hold there, 694 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:48,005 and we will pick it up after the break. 695 00:25:54,019 --> 00:25:55,954 RULLA: I wanna talk to Gerry. 696 00:25:56,021 --> 00:25:57,956 I've known this for months. I never said--I don't care. 697 00:25:58,023 --> 00:25:59,958 Listen to me. I wanna know where it came from. 698 00:26:00,025 --> 00:26:02,027 It's a lie. I'm telling you. I swear to God on the Bible. 699 00:26:02,127 --> 00:26:04,096 I don't--I don't fuck with lies. 700 00:26:04,129 --> 00:26:05,456 -Why would Gerry make that up? -No, 'cause I want you to know. 701 00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:06,999 Gerry doesn't even know what day it is. 702 00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:08,467 I want Gerry to tell me. 703 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,502 Why would I ever fucking do that? 704 00:26:10,536 --> 00:26:11,937 We laughed about it. 705 00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,031 RULLA: It's fine. I'm happy to talk with him. 706 00:26:14,064 --> 00:26:15,991 All right. Okay. 707 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:18,669 ANDY: Coming up... 708 00:26:18,735 --> 00:26:20,704 -Nuts! You're nuts! -When someone says--I'm nuts? 709 00:26:20,737 --> 00:26:22,714 -I'm nuts? I'm nuts? -Alicia, look, I wanna explain 710 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:23,515 to you, like... -I'm crazy? 711 00:26:23,615 --> 00:26:25,184 I attacked you. I know. 712 00:26:25,284 --> 00:26:27,252 Get over yourself. You're not that great. 713 00:26:32,357 --> 00:26:33,859 Welcome back 714 00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:36,862 to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion. 715 00:26:36,895 --> 00:26:40,048 I'm Andy Cohen. So, ladies, a show of hands-- 716 00:26:40,082 --> 00:26:44,353 who watched Ashley on TV before "Housewives"? 717 00:26:45,704 --> 00:26:46,555 -[laughs] -ANDY: You did? 718 00:26:46,588 --> 00:26:49,066 I've been following her since 2015. 719 00:26:49,099 --> 00:26:50,400 -ANDY: Really? -Mm-hmm. 720 00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:53,245 So what were you expecting when you first met her? 721 00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:55,072 And how did she compare? 722 00:26:55,105 --> 00:26:57,574 I think she lived up to the expectations. 723 00:26:57,608 --> 00:27:01,019 She's sweet. She's sincere. The crying. 724 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:04,756 Does anyone want to guess how many times Ashley 725 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:07,960 cried this season total? 726 00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:09,061 Eight. 727 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:10,462 I was gonna say seven. 728 00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:12,264 There's a tracker online somewhere. 729 00:27:12,364 --> 00:27:14,249 -10? -Seven. 730 00:27:14,283 --> 00:27:15,300 Ashley, what do you think? 731 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,586 Well, I'd say somewhere around 12. 732 00:27:17,619 --> 00:27:19,730 Just wanna, like, not have you thinking about Audrey's. 733 00:27:19,796 --> 00:27:20,797 -[bell dings] -I know. 734 00:27:20,898 --> 00:27:22,074 -Let me down. -It's like, holy crap. 735 00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:23,600 -Let me down! -That means I'm gonna be 736 00:27:23,634 --> 00:27:26,603 alone for five hours like this. -Mommy... [crying] 737 00:27:26,637 --> 00:27:27,980 -She's gonna cry. -[bell dings] 738 00:27:28,113 --> 00:27:29,264 She's gonna cry again. Oh, no. 739 00:27:29,298 --> 00:27:31,950 Sorry. I'm totally crying. [crying] 740 00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:33,919 ...won't stop. 741 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:35,078 Why don't you just go in the office? Just relax. 742 00:27:35,145 --> 00:27:36,947 -Somebody will, like, die. -[bell dings] 743 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:39,057 That will happen one day. 744 00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:40,284 I don't know why I'm crying so much. 745 00:27:40,317 --> 00:27:42,060 -It's okay. -[laughs] 746 00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:45,364 -ANDY: It was seven. -I was right. I'm psychic. 747 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:47,199 ANDY: Rulla and Alicia. Yes. 748 00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:49,952 So, Ashley, when did you move to Rhode Island? 749 00:27:49,985 --> 00:27:51,336 2021. 750 00:27:51,436 --> 00:27:54,097 And so the only one in this group 751 00:27:54,164 --> 00:27:57,109 that you knew previous to the show was... 752 00:27:57,142 --> 00:27:58,627 -Rosie. -Rosie. 753 00:27:58,660 --> 00:28:00,479 Who I was set up on a friend girl date with. 754 00:28:00,579 --> 00:28:01,480 -Nice. -Yeah. 755 00:28:01,613 --> 00:28:02,639 And immediately hit it off. Yeah. 756 00:28:02,673 --> 00:28:04,308 -Oh, that's nice. -ROSIE: Yeah. 757 00:28:04,341 --> 00:28:06,977 Patty from Queens said, "I saw Kelsey say 758 00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:09,588 that Ashley doesn't hang out with any of the ladies 759 00:28:09,655 --> 00:28:10,956 outside of filming. 760 00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:14,484 Jo-Ellen has three kids, and she still prioritizes friends." 761 00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:16,954 Jo-Ellen, why do you think it's harder for Ashley? 762 00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:19,464 Well, I think that Ashley does hang out with Rosie, 763 00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:22,125 and Jared works, like, a hundred hours. 764 00:28:22,192 --> 00:28:23,660 So I think that's a little bit different, 765 00:28:23,694 --> 00:28:25,771 where Gary helps out a lot more to watch the kids. 766 00:28:25,804 --> 00:28:27,072 And it's hard to make mom friends. 767 00:28:27,139 --> 00:28:28,632 -Like, when you have kids... -Yeah. 768 00:28:28,699 --> 00:28:30,158 -...like, it's very difficult. -ANDY: Mm. 769 00:28:30,192 --> 00:28:33,278 I think because, you know, Ashley is close with Rosie 770 00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:35,330 and has seen some of the things that have taken place, 771 00:28:35,364 --> 00:28:37,816 she's probably just, you know, uncomfortable. 772 00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:39,518 And I don't wanna speak for you, but-- 773 00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:41,553 No, of course. That's definitely a component to it. 774 00:28:41,687 --> 00:28:46,558 Um, I...have never been invited by Kelsey to do anything, 775 00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:49,161 so it kind of is a two-way street. 776 00:28:49,194 --> 00:28:50,345 So can we hang out? 777 00:28:50,379 --> 00:28:51,521 -Sure. -Let's ask Rosie. 778 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:53,232 Well, Rosie, how do you feel about that? 779 00:28:53,332 --> 00:28:54,199 Yeah, you can hang out with whoever you want. 780 00:28:54,299 --> 00:28:56,034 -[chuckles] -You're a grown-up. 781 00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:57,669 Has your loyalty to Rosie 782 00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,672 impeded your ability to make friends with the other women? 783 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:02,374 No, I don't think so. 784 00:29:02,507 --> 00:29:06,044 But my friendship with Rosie is super special. 785 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:07,913 -Like, it really is. -[laughs] 786 00:29:08,013 --> 00:29:09,364 I hang out with her all the time. 787 00:29:09,398 --> 00:29:10,916 -Oh, I'm gonna choke up. -Don't cry. [laughs] 788 00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:13,535 -Oh, no. -Then I'll cry, too. 789 00:29:13,568 --> 00:29:14,820 And then we'll start talking about the Disney Channel. 790 00:29:14,853 --> 00:29:17,039 I haven't made friends like I have with Rosie 791 00:29:17,072 --> 00:29:19,825 for quite some time. It's, like, one of those 792 00:29:19,891 --> 00:29:21,660 friendships that you don't think you're gonna... 793 00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:22,995 It's hard, like, being in your 30s, you know? 794 00:29:23,061 --> 00:29:23,795 Most of the friendships you don't think you're 795 00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:25,731 going to create in your 30s. 796 00:29:25,831 --> 00:29:28,333 Especially, I'm in a different spot in life than her. 797 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,770 It's so nice that Rosie makes... 798 00:29:31,903 --> 00:29:34,506 [voice breaking] She fits our friendship into... 799 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:36,066 -Oh, my God. [laughs] -[bell dings] 800 00:29:36,099 --> 00:29:38,060 ...our lifestyle. I can't think of a time where... 801 00:29:38,093 --> 00:29:39,436 You're very cute. 802 00:29:39,536 --> 00:29:41,229 We've gone out to dinner and drinks. 803 00:29:41,263 --> 00:29:43,231 Like, she comes, and she plays on the playroom floor. 804 00:29:43,265 --> 00:29:44,850 -Yeah. That's fun. -We watch, like, reruns 805 00:29:44,883 --> 00:29:46,685 of "Full House." She goes to the zoo 806 00:29:46,752 --> 00:29:48,378 and my kids' music classes. It's very special. 807 00:29:48,445 --> 00:29:50,622 -And you talk about boy bands. -And we love the Disney Channel. 808 00:29:50,722 --> 00:29:52,257 And we talk about boy bands, yeah. 809 00:29:52,391 --> 00:29:54,084 Ashley, how is Audrey's doing now? 810 00:29:54,117 --> 00:29:58,964 Since the show, like, the-- it has been packed to the brim. 811 00:29:59,064 --> 00:30:00,966 -Yeah. -Have you changed your tune? 812 00:30:01,033 --> 00:30:01,958 Um... 813 00:30:02,059 --> 00:30:03,368 -No. -He's actually been more 814 00:30:03,435 --> 00:30:04,736 stressed because of it. -ANDY: Wow. 815 00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:07,339 So it actually has complicated things further. 816 00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:10,409 ANDY: Wow. Um, I wanna switch gears. 817 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,511 Jo-Ellen, you said you had a wild time in your 20s. 818 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:13,845 Mm-hmm. 819 00:30:13,912 --> 00:30:15,714 What was the craziest thing you did? 820 00:30:15,747 --> 00:30:17,282 Why did you say, Rulla? I couldn't hear you 821 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:18,767 under your breath. -Sure you're still having it. 822 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,436 Oh, am I? What proof do you have? 823 00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:23,280 Go on. 824 00:30:23,313 --> 00:30:25,816 I had fun in my 20s. I was in a sorority. 825 00:30:25,916 --> 00:30:27,417 Did you get kicked out of the school? 826 00:30:27,484 --> 00:30:28,427 No, I didn't. 827 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:29,428 You didn't get kicked out of college? 828 00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:30,620 Nope, I did not. 829 00:30:30,654 --> 00:30:31,863 You didn't get in trouble in high school? 830 00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:33,457 I, of course, got in trouble in high school. 831 00:30:33,490 --> 00:30:34,633 -I got sent away. -Of course? Why? 832 00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:35,826 We all get in trouble in high school? 833 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:37,202 I got sent away. I think 834 00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:39,287 I fucking made that very clear three times. 835 00:30:39,321 --> 00:30:40,497 All right. That's a good card to pull now. 836 00:30:40,597 --> 00:30:42,441 But you know what? Let's talk about shit underage. 837 00:30:42,507 --> 00:30:44,634 That's a classy thing to do, to bring up somebody underage 838 00:30:44,668 --> 00:30:46,470 and their problems when they're under 18. 839 00:30:46,503 --> 00:30:47,746 You keep on saying that you're so clean. 840 00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:49,314 Jo-Ellen, you're so great at playing the victim. 841 00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:51,583 You're so not messy. You're just as messy as me. 842 00:30:51,616 --> 00:30:52,818 -Oh, my God. Here she goes. -So fucking own it, bitch. 843 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:54,686 -I own it. You don't. -Here she goes. 844 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:55,887 Oh, I am Rulla, the Queen of the proper police. 845 00:30:55,954 --> 00:30:58,448 You wanna blame your mother for everything. 846 00:30:58,515 --> 00:30:59,808 -Oh, my goodness. -ANDY: All right. Okay. 847 00:30:59,841 --> 00:31:01,952 All right. Very good. When you had a heart to heart 848 00:31:02,018 --> 00:31:05,981 with your mom, she said you were lying about being out with boys. 849 00:31:06,014 --> 00:31:09,334 Do you remember what precipitated 850 00:31:09,401 --> 00:31:11,161 such a drastic measure? 851 00:31:11,194 --> 00:31:12,671 I pretended I was taking a shower, 852 00:31:12,771 --> 00:31:14,539 and I jumped out the window to go see my boyfriend. 853 00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:15,974 You thought she was gonna fall for you taking, 854 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:17,367 like, an hour shower? 855 00:31:17,467 --> 00:31:19,469 You know, I think she did for a while. 856 00:31:19,536 --> 00:31:21,505 Alicia, you knew Jo-Ellen in high school. 857 00:31:21,538 --> 00:31:24,341 Was she really the bad girl her mom thought she was? 858 00:31:24,374 --> 00:31:26,118 No. She was a teenager. 859 00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,545 Jo-Ellen, how is your relationship with your mom now? 860 00:31:28,645 --> 00:31:31,323 Have you both ever considered therapy together? 861 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:33,216 We've done therapy in the past. 862 00:31:33,316 --> 00:31:35,218 Um, right now, the relationship isn't--isn't going great. 863 00:31:35,318 --> 00:31:36,461 -It's not going well? -No. 864 00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:37,863 She's a little upset about the show, 865 00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:41,600 and she is kind of weaponizing my kids, like, literally. 866 00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:43,493 She's like, "If you talk bad about me to Andy, 867 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,861 I'm not watching them." I'm like, uh... 868 00:31:44,895 --> 00:31:46,204 -ANDY: Uh-oh. -I know. 869 00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,673 Liza from Rolling Meadows has been dying to know, 870 00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:51,209 "Jo-Ellen, what did your family think when you stole Gary 871 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,245 from your sister in high school?" 872 00:31:53,378 --> 00:31:54,871 I never stole Gary. 873 00:31:54,905 --> 00:31:57,841 Jen and Gary never dated ever. They never kissed on the lips. 874 00:31:57,908 --> 00:31:59,017 She had a crush on him, 875 00:31:59,084 --> 00:32:01,286 and he touched her boobs in seventh grade. 876 00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:04,039 Rita from Southampton said, "Jo-Ellen, don't you think 877 00:32:04,072 --> 00:32:06,525 it's inappropriate the way your sister so openly says 878 00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:08,385 she wants your husband?" 879 00:32:08,418 --> 00:32:11,129 Oh, Gary, I found a pair of your underwear. 880 00:32:11,196 --> 00:32:12,364 Oh, they're small. 881 00:32:12,397 --> 00:32:14,432 -[chuckles] They tasted great. -Whoo. 882 00:32:15,167 --> 00:32:16,726 It's an inside joke in our family. 883 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,570 Like, I mean, the people that are around me 884 00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:21,223 that have seen Jen and Gary, like, it's fine. Trust me. 885 00:32:21,256 --> 00:32:22,841 Show of hands-- 886 00:32:22,908 --> 00:32:25,644 who here has heard that Jo-Ellen is a swinger? 887 00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:28,847 Well, she talked to us about it at the lunch. 888 00:32:28,914 --> 00:32:30,582 -We've all heard it, yeah. -Who here thinks it? 889 00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:31,817 -I don't know. -Okay, thank you. 890 00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:34,411 -I don't know. -Where does the rumor come from? 891 00:32:34,444 --> 00:32:36,071 I don't know. My neighbors had said it to me once, 892 00:32:36,104 --> 00:32:38,557 and I don't know where they heard it from, 893 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:40,725 and then we kinda did, like, this, like, funny upside-down 894 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:42,786 pineapples back and forth on each other's lawns 895 00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:44,563 and making signs, but... 896 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:46,064 Jo-Ellen, Rulla's husband Brian 897 00:32:46,131 --> 00:32:47,557 admitted to calling your work colleague. 898 00:32:47,624 --> 00:32:50,202 So how is work going for you since then? 899 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:52,604 Um, well, I was laid off from that job. 900 00:32:52,737 --> 00:32:54,231 That was not why you were laid off. 901 00:32:54,297 --> 00:32:55,574 I didn't finish speaking. Shut up. 902 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,800 You got warnings before and after, and everybody knows that. 903 00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,510 ANDY: Okay. Why did you get laid off? 904 00:32:58,577 --> 00:33:00,762 -Got fired from many other jobs. -Why is she still here? 905 00:33:00,795 --> 00:33:03,782 She was in three episodes. 906 00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:05,550 Doesn't matter how many episodes I'm in. 907 00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:07,486 I'm not even gonna go there. I'm not even gonna go there. 908 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:10,188 He, uh, they laid off a bunch of us from the company. 909 00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:12,115 I don't know if it had anything to do with what 910 00:33:12,148 --> 00:33:14,117 Rulla and Brian did, but it was a bunch of us at corporate. 911 00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:15,894 I didn't do anything. Correct yourself. I did not do anything. 912 00:33:15,961 --> 00:33:17,112 -You were in the room. -I did not do anything. 913 00:33:17,145 --> 00:33:18,288 -You were in the room. -I was in the house. 914 00:33:18,321 --> 00:33:19,614 ANDY: Do you think Brian had any-- 915 00:33:19,648 --> 00:33:21,258 -In the room. In an earshot. -In the house. 916 00:33:21,324 --> 00:33:22,617 That's the room. You were fucking upstairs. 917 00:33:22,651 --> 00:33:24,452 -Stop making false accusations. -Do you think Brian 918 00:33:24,486 --> 00:33:26,671 had any involvement? -He didn't call my boss. 919 00:33:26,771 --> 00:33:29,791 He called a colleague. He then made a formal complaint-- 920 00:33:29,824 --> 00:33:31,710 You keep on saying the story wrong. 921 00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:33,812 Don't you think I know my own fucking story? 922 00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,130 No, everything that comes out of your mouth is... 923 00:33:35,163 --> 00:33:36,481 I have the proof. What do you have? 924 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,675 Do you think his involvement led to your layoff? 925 00:33:38,775 --> 00:33:40,318 I don't think that it helped. 926 00:33:40,418 --> 00:33:43,288 I don't know what led to it, but I know that my boss 927 00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:44,656 had to talk to me about what Brian did 928 00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:46,758 and writing in the complaint about me. 929 00:33:46,825 --> 00:33:48,860 I know that Brian was trying to get me fired. 930 00:33:48,994 --> 00:33:51,146 He said he was gonna sue my company at the time, 931 00:33:51,179 --> 00:33:52,430 and if they didn't lay me off... -Oh, my God. 932 00:33:52,497 --> 00:33:55,066 ..because I was unfit. I have proof. 933 00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:57,127 -Stop your noises. -Okay. 934 00:33:57,193 --> 00:33:58,503 Show Brian when he comes. 935 00:33:58,537 --> 00:33:59,663 Maybe it's your nose fucking breathing. Shut up. 936 00:33:59,696 --> 00:34:01,439 Jo-Ellen, shut your mouth. At your age-- 937 00:34:01,506 --> 00:34:03,491 Can you let me have my turn to speak? 938 00:34:03,525 --> 00:34:05,277 -Yes, act your age, though. -So do it. Stop speaking. 939 00:34:05,343 --> 00:34:06,670 I can't deal with the things that come out of that mouth. 940 00:34:06,703 --> 00:34:08,004 The truth! You can't deal with the truth. 941 00:34:08,038 --> 00:34:10,181 Do you think she was fired because of her husband? 942 00:34:10,248 --> 00:34:11,583 No. 943 00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:14,144 Um, Jo-Ellen, how has all of this affected your career? 944 00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:16,354 -Are you working again? -I was working. 945 00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:18,490 I actually just decided a couple weeks ago 946 00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:20,850 it was just too much right now for me. 947 00:34:20,884 --> 00:34:23,678 So I've decided after, you know, 20-something years of working, 948 00:34:23,712 --> 00:34:26,681 I'm gonna be a stay-at-home mom and, you know, focus on my kids. 949 00:34:26,715 --> 00:34:28,683 -Mm-hmm. -ANDY: All right. 950 00:34:28,717 --> 00:34:30,527 We need to take a break. We'll be right back. 951 00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:33,705 -Andy. -Rulla. 952 00:34:33,838 --> 00:34:37,542 I actually have, um, Brian's surgery records 953 00:34:37,642 --> 00:34:39,903 for the day that alleged video was taken-- 954 00:34:40,003 --> 00:34:43,348 his whole entire schedule, just so... 955 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,075 Okay, well, we're taking a 5-minute break. 956 00:34:45,175 --> 00:34:47,218 -Just, it's impossible. -Yeah. Okay, Jo-Ellen. 957 00:34:47,352 --> 00:34:50,080 Anybody can change a date on their dash and everything. 958 00:34:50,180 --> 00:34:53,041 Do you know what he does? He prints out AI things for you 959 00:34:53,074 --> 00:34:54,359 and tells you that he's going to esthetic conferences? 960 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,061 -And he goes with [bleep]. -Oh, my God. Jo-Ellen. 961 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:57,395 -He does it. -That was before. 962 00:34:57,495 --> 00:34:59,064 -He is the AI queen! -He hasn't been to a conference 963 00:34:59,164 --> 00:35:00,398 in forever. -You are delusional. 964 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,767 Actually, can you share what one of the docs told you... 965 00:35:02,867 --> 00:35:04,235 All you do is make it seem like you're lying. 966 00:35:04,336 --> 00:35:06,229 ...when the camera's rolling again, please? 967 00:35:06,262 --> 00:35:08,740 All you do is say it's lying. You didn't even see the video. 968 00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,042 It doesn't matter. It was done. 969 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:13,078 They didn't stop fucking until December. 970 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:14,396 RULLA: Here she goes. 971 00:35:14,429 --> 00:35:17,582 They were gonna--they were still meeting up in January. 972 00:35:17,616 --> 00:35:20,218 ASHLEY: We definitely need to get Brian out here. 973 00:35:20,251 --> 00:35:22,053 I mean, he can defend himself. 974 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,755 -I'm tired. This subject's done. -Rulla. 975 00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:25,757 -I'm done. -Oh, we can leave? 976 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:27,892 But I've already told you to stop. 977 00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:29,911 -He's texting her. I'm done. -I'm handling things my own way. 978 00:35:29,944 --> 00:35:31,196 -I stopped. This is the reunion. -But you're not done. 979 00:35:31,229 --> 00:35:32,747 You said you're gonna torture us. 980 00:35:32,781 --> 00:35:34,065 Did you think I wasn't-- You wanna talk shit about me? 981 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:35,417 -Do you think I-- -You're gonna torture me 982 00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:36,701 until I'm 85 years old? -Did you think that I wasn't 983 00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:37,702 gonna come with proof? -Let it be. Let it be and let-- 984 00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:39,037 -I'm done. -No, but you're not done. 985 00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:40,430 -We're here for the reunion. -You're not done. 986 00:35:40,463 --> 00:35:42,807 What did you think was gonna happen at the reunion? 987 00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:44,909 Did you think that something was gonna happen? 988 00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:48,905 Oh, my God. I'm so done. So done. 989 00:35:48,972 --> 00:35:50,415 ANDY: Coming up next... 990 00:35:50,448 --> 00:35:52,600 You're full of fucking shit. Fuck you. 991 00:35:52,634 --> 00:35:54,110 That was so far back, Liz. 992 00:35:54,144 --> 00:35:55,920 You're not gonna win, doll. You're not gonna win. 993 00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:57,956 And it was something that looking bad-- 994 00:35:58,056 --> 00:35:59,324 I'm trying to protect you. 995 00:35:59,424 --> 00:36:01,618 So says the biggest psychopath on the planet. 996 00:36:07,390 --> 00:36:08,992 MAN: All right, guys, let's settle in. 997 00:36:09,059 --> 00:36:11,236 3, 2... 998 00:36:11,336 --> 00:36:12,437 Welcome back 999 00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:14,839 to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion. 1000 00:36:14,906 --> 00:36:16,299 I'm Andy Cohen. 1001 00:36:16,332 --> 00:36:18,510 So, Liz, when you said Alicia was never homeless, 1002 00:36:18,576 --> 00:36:19,978 you meant what? 1003 00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:22,964 From what I remember, my father left us homeless. 1004 00:36:22,997 --> 00:36:27,118 I will never hear you say you were homeless. 1005 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,789 You were never homeless in your life. 1006 00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:34,325 When I initially said, "You were never homeless," 1007 00:36:34,392 --> 00:36:38,163 I was actually shocked that Alicia was saying that. 1008 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,798 But I do want you to know this. 1009 00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:43,101 [coughs] Cigarette withdrawals. 1010 00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:46,404 I never meant to demean your feelings. 1011 00:36:46,471 --> 00:36:50,108 The minute I abruptly went, "You were never homeless," 1012 00:36:50,175 --> 00:36:51,810 I was trying to literally protect you, 1013 00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:55,330 not only from how it would seem, 1014 00:36:55,363 --> 00:36:58,316 but also from, like, any backlash from people 1015 00:36:58,349 --> 00:37:01,544 in Rhode Island who wouldn't have taken kindly-- 1016 00:37:01,611 --> 00:37:05,156 I never wanted to do anything but protect you. 1017 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:07,092 -Thank you. -I swear to you, 1018 00:37:07,158 --> 00:37:11,463 I am truly sorry for that. That was never my intention. 1019 00:37:11,529 --> 00:37:13,331 -I don't think it was. -You know, in Kabbalah, 1020 00:37:13,364 --> 00:37:16,059 they say when you bring red to someone's face, 1021 00:37:16,126 --> 00:37:18,103 it's like the greatest sin. 1022 00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:20,338 That broke my heart that I did that to you. 1023 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:21,773 And for that, I'm sorry. 1024 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,609 I accept your apology. For me, even, like, opening up, 1025 00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:27,612 which I didn't even tell Billy any of that, or really... 1026 00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:29,013 -Oh, wow. -I was kind of embarrassed 1027 00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:30,582 about, like, having a shitty father 1028 00:37:30,648 --> 00:37:32,217 'cause everyone that I grew up with and all my cousins, 1029 00:37:32,283 --> 00:37:33,852 they all had this, like, wonderful life. 1030 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:35,245 And mine was like, I was, like, 1031 00:37:35,311 --> 00:37:36,746 trying to fake it until you make it. 1032 00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:38,581 I just felt, like, I got embarrassed. 1033 00:37:38,648 --> 00:37:40,692 And then you kept, like, saying, "homeless" and "homeless" 1034 00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:42,861 in the car, and I'm like, no! It was just, like, 1035 00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:45,221 I just felt like I was, like, suffocating, 1036 00:37:45,255 --> 00:37:47,157 and I was so mad that I was, like, 1037 00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:49,100 I couldn't control myself. Like, and I hated that I didn't 1038 00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:52,103 have control over my emotions, and I didn't think that, 1039 00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:53,638 like, you were, like, seeing it that day. 1040 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:56,207 You thought I was attacking you. And I'm like, 1041 00:37:56,241 --> 00:37:58,176 "I can't even breathe." Like, this is, like... 1042 00:37:58,243 --> 00:37:59,577 -Yeah. -...a gut punch over and over. 1043 00:37:59,644 --> 00:38:00,745 -And I--I... -Right. 1044 00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:03,414 You know, it was just-- it was just hard. 1045 00:38:03,481 --> 00:38:06,176 -I understand that. -I shake when I talk about it. 1046 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:08,520 And, like, I wanna say I actually wasn't 1047 00:38:08,586 --> 00:38:10,955 the one who brought it up in the car. 1048 00:38:11,022 --> 00:38:12,891 Let's just say, 1049 00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:15,493 and I don't wanna go further with this, but let's just say 1050 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,230 you both knew that we were gonna be doing that in the car. 1051 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,232 My mom-- I told her about my dad, 1052 00:38:21,332 --> 00:38:23,268 you know, and she was like, "Good. 1053 00:38:23,334 --> 00:38:25,403 Like, you should be talking about this," you know? 1054 00:38:25,436 --> 00:38:27,238 And I'm like, I was just so awkward. 1055 00:38:27,272 --> 00:38:29,541 You felt ambushed in the car? 1056 00:38:29,607 --> 00:38:32,911 I did. They certainly knew that that was going 1057 00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:35,947 to be going on and coming up in the car. 1058 00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:36,915 -No, Jo, no? -No, Liz. 1059 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:38,082 -No. -No. 1060 00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:39,517 No. 1061 00:38:39,617 --> 00:38:41,811 Liz, do you think that this was a manufactured situation? 1062 00:38:41,878 --> 00:38:44,088 We didn't know three days before that this was 1063 00:38:44,122 --> 00:38:45,481 coming up in the car? -No. 1064 00:38:45,548 --> 00:38:46,716 -We didn't know? -I didn't know that 1065 00:38:46,783 --> 00:38:47,926 any of this was-- -You didn't. 1066 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:49,627 -No. -No. 1067 00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:51,387 So I shouldn't talk about, like, six... 1068 00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:53,097 We--I didn't send notes-- No one sent--she didn't-- 1069 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,767 ...voice notes you sent me, Jo-Ellen, and Kelsey 1070 00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:57,936 about doing this in the car... -Uh, Liz, that's-- 1071 00:38:57,969 --> 00:38:59,904 And then me saying, "Please don't." 1072 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:01,456 Liz, that is so far-- 1073 00:39:01,489 --> 00:39:04,442 Why would I--if that was a setup, you would have no idea. 1074 00:39:04,475 --> 00:39:05,610 -You told me. -Exactly. You told me. 1075 00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:06,836 Why would I tell you if it was a setup? 1076 00:39:06,903 --> 00:39:09,280 That's a lie. That's crazy. 1077 00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:11,349 So were your feelings manufactured? 1078 00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:13,176 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have nervous breakdowns. 1079 00:39:13,243 --> 00:39:15,320 I should get an Academy Award. I mean, come on. 1080 00:39:15,386 --> 00:39:17,689 Like, that's insane. I couldn't breathe, literally, 1081 00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:19,357 and I was shaken up for two days. 1082 00:39:19,424 --> 00:39:21,793 -Then why do it? Then why do it? -Because you were attacking me, 1083 00:39:21,826 --> 00:39:23,895 and you were just like, "You're doing this on purpose." 1084 00:39:23,962 --> 00:39:25,797 -Let me ask you a question. So-- -This is why-- 1085 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:27,365 Alicia, yeah, you told me. I knew it was coming. 1086 00:39:27,465 --> 00:39:28,833 I never told--did I ever say that to you guys? 1087 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:30,201 And you knew, 'cause she told you, and you knew, too. 1088 00:39:30,268 --> 00:39:32,762 I'm setting up Liz to fucking have a nervous breakdown 1089 00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:35,198 on TV so everyone can see me like that? 1090 00:39:35,265 --> 00:39:36,532 I don't know why you wanted to do it. 1091 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:37,642 That's crazy. You can't say that out loud. That's scary. 1092 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:38,977 Should I play it now? I said it out loud. 1093 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:40,703 -Now that scares me. -Let me ask you a question. 1094 00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:42,680 -That scares me. -Liz, let me ask you a question. 1095 00:39:42,747 --> 00:39:44,082 -It should. It should. -Scary. 1096 00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:45,650 -Take accountability. -In the car, 1097 00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:48,044 you were upset with Alicia, but then it really turned... 1098 00:39:48,111 --> 00:39:49,212 -That's not a sorry. -...to Jo-Ellen. 1099 00:39:49,279 --> 00:39:50,722 -Correct. -Why? 1100 00:39:50,788 --> 00:39:53,992 Because they both knew it was happening, and I felt ambushed. 1101 00:39:54,058 --> 00:39:57,195 -I felt, like, heartbroken. -You were ambushed? 1102 00:39:57,262 --> 00:39:59,289 You ambushed me, and then you ambushed her. 1103 00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:01,291 You threw her against the fucking thing 1104 00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:02,233 and grabbed her hair. 1105 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:03,434 -That's an ambush. -Okay. 1106 00:40:03,501 --> 00:40:04,836 I mean, I definitely was surprised 1107 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:06,738 at how quickly this situation escalated. 1108 00:40:06,804 --> 00:40:08,740 I felt like, you know, I'm sitting in the back seat. 1109 00:40:08,806 --> 00:40:11,701 I don't want them to fight. I'm telling Alicia, stop, Liz, stop. 1110 00:40:11,734 --> 00:40:13,411 Like, I'm trying. You know, they're both my friends. 1111 00:40:13,511 --> 00:40:14,862 I don't want to see them fighting. 1112 00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:18,750 And then it continued into Capo, and it kind of turned 1113 00:40:18,816 --> 00:40:21,185 from Liz upset with Alicia, with Liz upset with me, 1114 00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:23,221 that I wasn't a good enough mediator in this. 1115 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,389 Jo, you can say what you want, 1116 00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:27,050 but never once did you go, "Oh, Alicia." 1117 00:40:27,083 --> 00:40:29,719 Like, you know her hot-- You know she didn't mean it. 1118 00:40:29,752 --> 00:40:31,587 You didn't do that. You were very much, 1119 00:40:31,654 --> 00:40:34,332 "You have the right to feel. No one can take that away, 1120 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:35,500 and I understand it." 1121 00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,769 The consoling and knowing beforehand 1122 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:39,270 that it was gonna happen-- 1123 00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:41,139 I didn't know any of this was gonna happen. 1124 00:40:41,205 --> 00:40:42,540 -What are you talking about? -Alicia and I-- 1125 00:40:42,674 --> 00:40:43,741 Oh, you didn't listen to your voice memos? 1126 00:40:43,808 --> 00:40:45,977 -No. -So the world's 1127 00:40:46,044 --> 00:40:47,478 number one detective... -I can show you. I can show you. 1128 00:40:47,545 --> 00:40:48,913 After referring... 1129 00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:50,581 Do you remember that I was at a concert that day, 1130 00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:51,983 and I didn't call you back, and you were, like-- 1131 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:53,051 Yes, you were at the Morgan Wallen concert, yeah. 1132 00:40:53,084 --> 00:40:54,252 Yeah, and I didn't answer your calls. 1133 00:40:54,319 --> 00:40:55,520 -It was three days. -And I was hungover 1134 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:56,854 as fuck the next day. 1135 00:40:56,921 --> 00:40:58,289 So the world's number one detective has to be-- 1136 00:40:58,356 --> 00:40:59,724 I just went past it. There's a thousand more. 1137 00:40:59,757 --> 00:41:01,059 Nobody's gonna believe you, Jo-Ellen. 1138 00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:02,026 -After being-- -Rulla, stop speaking. 1139 00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:03,328 Nobody believes your husband. 1140 00:41:03,428 --> 00:41:04,228 This is--I'm talking to you, Jo, not-- 1141 00:41:04,262 --> 00:41:05,596 That's who people don't believe. 1142 00:41:05,663 --> 00:41:06,564 I referred back to those voice messages 1143 00:41:06,664 --> 00:41:08,232 a hundred times to you. 1144 00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:09,334 I know, and you and I have talked about this. 1145 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,802 So the world's number one detective 1146 00:41:10,868 --> 00:41:12,503 didn't go and listen to them? -That was so far back. 1147 00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:14,197 You're full of fucking shit. Fuck you. 1148 00:41:14,263 --> 00:41:16,474 That was so far back, Liz. You took this out on me. 1149 00:41:16,541 --> 00:41:17,775 Listen, babe. You're not gonna win, doll. 1150 00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:19,243 -You're not gonna win. -And it was something that 1151 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:21,012 you had with Alicia. I said-- -You are not gonna win this. 1152 00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,114 -Oh, my. -Shut the fuck up. 1153 00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:24,816 -We're speaking. -Kiss my ass. 1154 00:41:24,882 --> 00:41:26,309 -Did you get the voice memos? -Oh, my God. 1155 00:41:26,376 --> 00:41:27,919 You don't have an ass. Your skin's falling off. 1156 00:41:27,952 --> 00:41:29,687 I don't have to pump Ozempic to look like this. 1157 00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:31,289 You never got it? You never got them? 1158 00:41:31,356 --> 00:41:32,824 If I got it, I never opened it. I could scroll up. 1159 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:34,659 -Oh, and still to this day. -Yeah, I'm not gonna go-- 1160 00:41:34,726 --> 00:41:36,794 We referred to them several times. You still haven't. 1161 00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:38,663 -No, I still have not. -You, the world's 1162 00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:39,864 number one investigator. All right. 1163 00:41:39,964 --> 00:41:42,658 When we talked, like, 57,000 texts after that. 1164 00:41:42,725 --> 00:41:44,335 I have not scrolled up. -All right. You're full of shit. 1165 00:41:44,435 --> 00:41:46,437 And this is why I don't trust a thing you say. 1166 00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:47,672 No, it's not that you don't trust me. 1167 00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:48,940 You're full of shit. No, I don't trust you. 1168 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:50,066 You don't find me being undying loyalty to you. 1169 00:41:50,133 --> 00:41:51,334 No, I don't trust you. 1170 00:41:51,401 --> 00:41:52,668 -Alicia, stop. -You're a sick girl. 1171 00:41:52,735 --> 00:41:54,045 Liz, you stop. Like, I tried to make it better. 1172 00:41:54,145 --> 00:41:55,338 You're a sick girl. 1173 00:41:55,405 --> 00:41:57,048 And somehow you twisted it into-- 1174 00:41:57,115 --> 00:41:58,783 No, you didn't try to make it better. Listen. 1175 00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:00,910 -No, I did. How many times-- -The hand on my leg 1176 00:42:01,010 --> 00:42:02,286 for three hours? 1177 00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:04,322 [gritting teeth] "Calm down." That's not making it better. 1178 00:42:04,389 --> 00:42:06,124 Liz, a normal person, if somebody goes like this, 1179 00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:07,692 that's like-- -Not your hand, though. 1180 00:42:07,792 --> 00:42:09,293 -There's a difference. -No, it's not your body. 1181 00:42:09,427 --> 00:42:10,728 -Normal people can be touched. -Not your-- 1182 00:42:10,795 --> 00:42:12,255 -I don't want your hands on me. -You can't be touched. 1183 00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:13,464 -That's not on me. -So if on the first time saying, 1184 00:42:13,498 --> 00:42:14,732 "Get your hand off me"... -I'm trying to tell you, 1185 00:42:14,832 --> 00:42:15,967 "Hey, calm down." -You should have taken it off. 1186 00:42:16,034 --> 00:42:17,760 -That's an act of affection. -Nah, not with you. 1187 00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:19,170 -That's-- -It's a manipulative, weird... 1188 00:42:19,203 --> 00:42:20,638 No, that's me being like, "Please stop. 1189 00:42:20,671 --> 00:42:22,532 You're looking bad." I'm trying to protect you. 1190 00:42:22,598 --> 00:42:24,000 You're saying you're trying to protect Alicia. 1191 00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:25,543 -I'm trying to protect you. -From what? 1192 00:42:25,610 --> 00:42:28,104 -From what? -From looking crazy. 1193 00:42:28,304 --> 00:42:29,705 ♪♪♪ 1194 00:42:29,772 --> 00:42:31,040 Oh, okay. 1195 00:42:31,107 --> 00:42:32,216 And so I'm like, "Please calm down." 1196 00:42:32,316 --> 00:42:34,110 So says the biggest psychopath on the planet. 1197 00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:38,514 ♪♪♪ 1198 00:42:44,454 --> 00:42:46,689 I'm trying to protect you. You're saying you're trying 1199 00:42:46,789 --> 00:42:47,665 to protect Alicia. I'm trying to protect you. 1200 00:42:47,732 --> 00:42:48,866 -You're looking-- -From what? 1201 00:42:48,966 --> 00:42:50,301 -From what? -From looking crazy. 1202 00:42:50,334 --> 00:42:51,936 Oh, okay. 1203 00:42:51,969 --> 00:42:53,463 And so I'm like, "Please calm down. Please calm down." 1204 00:42:53,529 --> 00:42:55,072 So says the biggest psychopath on the planet. I need water. 1205 00:42:55,106 --> 00:42:56,632 I own that I'm a psychopath. I own that. 1206 00:42:56,699 --> 00:43:00,244 Okay, and we're gonna leave it there. 1207 00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:01,679 We are breaking for lunch. 1208 00:43:01,746 --> 00:43:02,713 -Whew. -We have to. 1209 00:43:02,814 --> 00:43:05,583 Oh, I'm starving. Perfect timing. 1210 00:43:10,346 --> 00:43:13,758 Oh, my God. My feet even hurt, and I'm not even standing. 1211 00:43:13,791 --> 00:43:17,028 My heels are so bad. They're way too big. 1212 00:43:17,094 --> 00:43:18,596 [gasps] Hi! 1213 00:43:18,696 --> 00:43:19,897 I'm back. 1214 00:43:19,964 --> 00:43:21,257 Hi, everybody. 1215 00:43:21,357 --> 00:43:22,558 All-star, all-star, all-star. 1216 00:43:26,496 --> 00:43:29,540 Why don't you eat? I love avocado. 1217 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:31,359 [whooshing] 1218 00:43:32,743 --> 00:43:36,280 Lizzie McGuire. Hi! 1219 00:43:36,314 --> 00:43:37,348 -Do you wanna talk? -[breathing heavily] 1220 00:43:37,415 --> 00:43:39,217 -I have anxiety. -What are you having? 1221 00:43:39,317 --> 00:43:40,785 -Water. Do you want some? -Yes. 1222 00:43:40,818 --> 00:43:42,612 Yeah. I love a hot water. 1223 00:43:42,712 --> 00:43:45,381 I just knew what I was walking into. All knew. 1224 00:43:45,448 --> 00:43:46,891 Nah. Felt like an ambush. 1225 00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:48,351 It doesn't make sense. 1226 00:43:48,384 --> 00:43:49,660 She has these, like, paranoia feelings. 1227 00:43:49,694 --> 00:43:51,546 -Mm-hmm. -And she believes 1228 00:43:51,612 --> 00:43:53,097 everyone's against her. -Right. 1229 00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:55,458 And in reality, you were just telling her how you felt. 1230 00:43:55,558 --> 00:43:57,034 And I was trying to de-escalate the situation 1231 00:43:57,068 --> 00:43:58,302 'cause we had a 30 more minute ride to Boston. 1232 00:43:58,369 --> 00:43:59,303 Right. 1233 00:43:59,403 --> 00:44:02,273 You felt ambushed, but I don't think 1234 00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:04,208 she necessarily thought that that was gonna happen. 1235 00:44:04,275 --> 00:44:06,636 What? You mean when she brought it up and segued into it? 1236 00:44:06,702 --> 00:44:10,581 The fact that she started crying and stuff, 1237 00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:13,050 I think she thought it was gonna go another way. 1238 00:44:13,084 --> 00:44:17,655 You should give her a sash, "Not Homeless." [chuckles] 1239 00:44:17,688 --> 00:44:20,983 And you have fucking Rulla talking shit. 1240 00:44:21,083 --> 00:44:22,426 Like, shut the fuck-- I don't even. 1241 00:44:22,527 --> 00:44:23,728 -Her goddamn nose, her... -[gasps] It was different. 1242 00:44:23,794 --> 00:44:24,929 I don't even know who she is. 1243 00:44:25,029 --> 00:44:26,697 I have been staring at her fucking face. 1244 00:44:26,731 --> 00:44:27,832 -I'm like... -New girl. 1245 00:44:27,865 --> 00:44:29,100 -Who is this new cast member? -New girl. 1246 00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:30,826 Oh, my God. 1247 00:44:30,893 --> 00:44:33,571 Brian didn't do anything to get Jo-Ellen fired. 1248 00:44:33,604 --> 00:44:35,398 -That has to stop. -Yeah. 1249 00:44:35,464 --> 00:44:38,000 Okay? The guys are gonna be coming soon anyway. 1250 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,077 ROSIE: And then it's gonna be, like, you versus Jo-Ellen. 1251 00:44:40,144 --> 00:44:41,779 -Bring it. Like-- -You're not scared? 1252 00:44:41,846 --> 00:44:43,314 Don't be in our business anymore. 1253 00:44:43,381 --> 00:44:45,341 Already owned everything. It's none of your business. Like... 1254 00:44:45,441 --> 00:44:48,819 She's so ready to, like, just attack. 1255 00:44:48,886 --> 00:44:50,246 -Right? -And they're just fucking lies, 1256 00:44:50,279 --> 00:44:52,748 and I don't do well with lies. 1257 00:44:52,815 --> 00:44:54,792 -Bye. Love you. -Bye, honey. Love you. 1258 00:44:54,859 --> 00:44:57,595 -I'm gonna walk with this. -See you out there, kid. 1259 00:44:57,628 --> 00:44:59,121 -Are we going now? -Yeah. 1260 00:44:59,188 --> 00:45:00,264 Oh. 1261 00:45:00,498 --> 00:45:01,532 ♪♪♪ 1262 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,326 Where am I going? 1263 00:45:03,426 --> 00:45:04,360 Should we bring out some crackers? 1264 00:45:04,427 --> 00:45:05,703 I really didn't get to eat lunch. 1265 00:45:05,770 --> 00:45:09,957 Priscilla, do you have eye drops? 1266 00:45:12,944 --> 00:45:14,579 Rulla, can I have you slide a little left? 1267 00:45:14,612 --> 00:45:15,871 -Closer to Liz? -Yes. 1268 00:45:15,938 --> 00:45:17,915 As long as she promises not to swing at me. 1269 00:45:17,949 --> 00:45:21,510 -[imitates laugh] -Stop. 1270 00:45:23,487 --> 00:45:24,455 Oh, yeah. 1271 00:45:24,522 --> 00:45:26,290 MAN: All right, guys, let's settle in. 1272 00:45:26,357 --> 00:45:29,819 4, 3, 2... 1273 00:45:29,852 --> 00:45:30,995 We are back 1274 00:45:31,062 --> 00:45:33,564 with "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion. 1275 00:45:33,631 --> 00:45:35,132 When we left off, 1276 00:45:35,166 --> 00:45:38,169 we were talking about Liz feeling ambushed. 1277 00:45:38,269 --> 00:45:42,406 Liz, I'm trying to understand why you were so mad at Jo-Ellen. 1278 00:45:42,506 --> 00:45:44,242 Because I felt like she was on board with it. 1279 00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:47,745 On board with setting you up to discuss this again? 1280 00:45:47,812 --> 00:45:48,846 Correct. 1281 00:45:48,913 --> 00:45:50,306 Can I ask, though, something, though? 1282 00:45:50,339 --> 00:45:51,782 But that's, like, not the case. I would not go after you. 1283 00:45:51,816 --> 00:45:53,250 That was, like, more of an attack towards me. 1284 00:45:53,317 --> 00:45:54,819 I don't know how you got attacked. I don't-- 1285 00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:56,153 I don't think anyone attacked you. 1286 00:45:56,187 --> 00:45:57,788 Well, it looks that way, but that's not exactly 1287 00:45:57,822 --> 00:45:59,248 how it went down. -Liz. 1288 00:45:59,348 --> 00:46:01,626 -It might appear that way. -I think that you need to just 1289 00:46:01,692 --> 00:46:02,760 take ownership of your behavior in the car. 1290 00:46:02,793 --> 00:46:04,086 No. You knew what was happening going in. 1291 00:46:04,153 --> 00:46:05,321 -No, I did not. -ANDY: Let me ask you this. 1292 00:46:05,354 --> 00:46:07,131 -Is there any chance-- -I need to take ownership 1293 00:46:07,164 --> 00:46:08,366 of my behavior? -Yes. 1294 00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:11,360 Babe, you are the most cunning, scary human being 1295 00:46:11,427 --> 00:46:13,571 that I have ever looked at... -You still can't take ownership. 1296 00:46:13,671 --> 00:46:15,097 ...in the face in my entire life. 1297 00:46:15,197 --> 00:46:16,340 You still can't take ownership of your behavior. 1298 00:46:16,374 --> 00:46:18,668 Oh, no, I'm taking ownership of my behavior. 1299 00:46:18,734 --> 00:46:20,711 -I'm not excusing it. However-- -Okay. 1300 00:46:20,811 --> 00:46:22,113 -Nope, that's where you stop. -However-- 1301 00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:23,606 You don't do a "however" or a "but." 1302 00:46:23,706 --> 00:46:24,749 You say, "I'm taking ownership." 1303 00:46:24,849 --> 00:46:26,284 No, I say what the fuck I wanna say, okay? 1304 00:46:26,317 --> 00:46:27,785 Okay, well, that's not taking ownership. 1305 00:46:27,818 --> 00:46:29,578 -Whether you like it or not... -That's not taking ownership. 1306 00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:31,489 ...in your cunning, little, sneaky-- 1307 00:46:31,555 --> 00:46:32,990 -Very sneaky. I see it, Liz. -You are, babe. 1308 00:46:33,024 --> 00:46:35,393 I'm not the one that flipped out on Alicia in the car. 1309 00:46:35,493 --> 00:46:36,727 -Babe... -I was trying to soothe 1310 00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:38,162 the moment between both of you. It's on camera. 1311 00:46:38,229 --> 00:46:40,431 No, I think Alicia was amping herself up a bit. 1312 00:46:40,531 --> 00:46:43,793 -Oh, my God, Liz. Liz. -She was crying. She was crying. 1313 00:46:43,893 --> 00:46:47,463 That's crazy. What's wrong with you? Wake up. 1314 00:46:47,530 --> 00:46:48,839 That's why I said you are abusive. 1315 00:46:48,906 --> 00:46:50,466 -You're nuts! -When someone says--I'm nuts? 1316 00:46:50,533 --> 00:46:52,209 -You're nuts. -I'm nuts? I'm nuts? 1317 00:46:52,276 --> 00:46:53,594 Alicia, look, I wanna explain to you, like... 1318 00:46:53,627 --> 00:46:55,371 -I'm crazy? -...about that homeless thing. 1319 00:46:55,438 --> 00:46:56,639 I attacked you? I know. We set you up. 1320 00:46:56,739 --> 00:46:57,748 It's all a setup, Liz. You're right. 1321 00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,643 It's all a fucking setup. You're right. 1322 00:47:00,710 --> 00:47:01,977 -I don't wanna deal with it. -It was. 1323 00:47:02,078 --> 00:47:03,654 It's a stupid conversation. Get over yourself. 1324 00:47:03,688 --> 00:47:05,389 -You're not that great, okay? -I don't think I am. 1325 00:47:05,456 --> 00:47:06,924 Get over yourself. It wasn't a setup. 1326 00:47:06,991 --> 00:47:09,393 'Cause if it was a setup, it would be a lot better than that. 1327 00:47:09,460 --> 00:47:10,661 Now relax. 1328 00:47:12,196 --> 00:47:13,731 Liz, let me ask you this. 1329 00:47:13,798 --> 00:47:16,867 Now that you've seen the episode where 1330 00:47:16,934 --> 00:47:19,729 Rosie's man is singing quite beautifully from the stage 1331 00:47:19,762 --> 00:47:22,631 as there's chaos at the table, 1332 00:47:22,732 --> 00:47:24,709 I wanna give you a moment to address 1333 00:47:24,775 --> 00:47:28,270 the hair touch and the chair push. 1334 00:47:28,304 --> 00:47:30,114 -What did I do? -Good job. You did it. 1335 00:47:30,214 --> 00:47:31,882 -Pull my hair again, Liz. -Why am I not being human? 1336 00:47:31,949 --> 00:47:34,819 I will literally fucking punch you in the face. 1337 00:47:34,885 --> 00:47:36,912 -Stop it, both of you! -You fucking piece of shit. 1338 00:47:36,979 --> 00:47:40,624 I am tactile-defensive. All I wanted was space. 1339 00:47:40,725 --> 00:47:43,144 If you're tactile-defensive, then why pull my hair? 1340 00:47:43,177 --> 00:47:45,855 I just wanted her away from me. I wanted her hands off of me. 1341 00:47:45,955 --> 00:47:47,331 When I told you that you did that, you're like, 1342 00:47:47,431 --> 00:47:48,666 "No, I didn't." 1343 00:47:48,766 --> 00:47:50,000 You pulled my hair. Did you kick my chair? 1344 00:47:50,067 --> 00:47:52,027 -Were you aggressive towards me? -I pulled your hair. 1345 00:47:52,128 --> 00:47:54,372 -Were you, yes or no? -You're a freak. 1346 00:47:54,438 --> 00:47:56,031 You are the fucking devil. 1347 00:47:56,132 --> 00:47:57,975 -Yeah, I did it. I was wrong. -Okay. 1348 00:47:58,042 --> 00:48:00,111 I just wanted you away from me. 1349 00:48:00,144 --> 00:48:02,538 I wasn't physically assaulting you. I pushed your chair. 1350 00:48:02,638 --> 00:48:04,248 -I wanted you away from me. -Pulling someone's hair and 1351 00:48:04,281 --> 00:48:05,249 kicking them in the chair and pushing my chair twice is not-- 1352 00:48:05,316 --> 00:48:07,351 What about, like, did you say to me, 1353 00:48:07,418 --> 00:48:09,019 "I'll beat the fucking shit out of you"? 1354 00:48:09,086 --> 00:48:10,121 -I did say that. -Yeah. 1355 00:48:10,187 --> 00:48:12,882 Jo-Ellen, everyone here has witnessed 1356 00:48:12,982 --> 00:48:14,725 you exhibit really bizarre fucking behavior... 1357 00:48:14,825 --> 00:48:16,385 Fine. Did I ever say I was perfect? 1358 00:48:16,485 --> 00:48:17,620 ...that you don't show on the camera. 1359 00:48:17,686 --> 00:48:18,763 -I own my shit. -All right. 1360 00:48:18,796 --> 00:48:20,055 That's the difference between you and me. 1361 00:48:20,156 --> 00:48:22,299 -I own it. -It's not okay to do shit. 1362 00:48:22,333 --> 00:48:23,517 You can't ever own anything. 1363 00:48:23,551 --> 00:48:24,518 -This is mine. -You can't ever own anything 1364 00:48:24,552 --> 00:48:25,861 when you're wrong. -But really-- 1365 00:48:25,961 --> 00:48:27,538 You apologized to Alicia. I wasn't even the one that you 1366 00:48:27,638 --> 00:48:28,898 were fighting with in the car. -'Cause I don't think 1367 00:48:28,998 --> 00:48:32,843 Alicia has--has an evil intent or a bad heart. 1368 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,805 You 100% do. 1369 00:48:35,838 --> 00:48:37,414 Do you feel like you owe her an apology 1370 00:48:37,448 --> 00:48:39,742 for what happened at Capo? -No. 1371 00:48:39,842 --> 00:48:42,211 -No. -Nor will I ever. No. 1372 00:48:42,311 --> 00:48:45,289 -That just shows your character. -No. Whatever. 1373 00:48:45,322 --> 00:48:48,626 Most people fear being exposed. I fear character manipulation. 1374 00:48:48,692 --> 00:48:50,319 Well, you should fear it the next time I pull your hair. 1375 00:48:50,386 --> 00:48:52,663 How about that? 'Cause, you know, that's just, like, not-- 1376 00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:54,256 You're just not nice. You're not a nice person. 1377 00:48:54,356 --> 00:48:55,833 -Look at me shake. -You act immature. You act-- 1378 00:48:55,866 --> 00:48:57,701 That must have really harmed you-- 1379 00:48:57,768 --> 00:48:59,019 that hair out of place... -Friends don't-- 1380 00:48:59,086 --> 00:49:01,238 ...that I still can't even see what really happened. 1381 00:49:01,305 --> 00:49:03,307 What about kicking the chair? What about pushing the chair? 1382 00:49:03,374 --> 00:49:04,542 I don't know. Is it normal behavior to have 1383 00:49:04,642 --> 00:49:06,610 your devil hands on someone for three hours 1384 00:49:06,677 --> 00:49:08,879 when they're telling you to get them off? You incite-- 1385 00:49:08,979 --> 00:49:10,372 Honestly, who looks like the devil? You do. 1386 00:49:10,439 --> 00:49:11,782 You incite rage. 1387 00:49:11,816 --> 00:49:13,951 You fought with every single person on the stage. 1388 00:49:13,984 --> 00:49:15,653 -Correct. Well, not Ashley. -Who's the devil now? 1389 00:49:15,686 --> 00:49:17,454 -Not really. -Sorry, not Ashley. 1390 00:49:17,555 --> 00:49:18,873 -LIZ: Not really Ashley. -So who's the devil now? 1391 00:49:18,939 --> 00:49:21,717 LIZ: Well, I mean, pretty much so have you. 1392 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:25,688 -You are not a friend, ever. -You know what? You're right. 1393 00:49:25,754 --> 00:49:26,831 -You're right. -Alicia, I don't think, 1394 00:49:26,864 --> 00:49:29,083 is coming from a bad place. -You're right. 1395 00:49:29,116 --> 00:49:31,085 Yeah, but I'm coming from a horrible place. 1396 00:49:31,118 --> 00:49:32,361 Jo-Ellen and Liz, 1397 00:49:32,428 --> 00:49:34,096 have the two of you ever been in a fight before? 1398 00:49:34,196 --> 00:49:36,106 -We have. -Wanna say why? 1399 00:49:36,173 --> 00:49:37,700 Because your clothes smelled like smoke, 1400 00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:39,602 and you let me borrow your ski suit. 1401 00:49:39,702 --> 00:49:41,562 And I said, "Oh, do you want me to wash it beforehand? 1402 00:49:41,629 --> 00:49:43,239 I didn't use it." And you said, "No, why would you?" 1403 00:49:43,272 --> 00:49:44,582 I said, "Well, it smells like smoke." 1404 00:49:44,682 --> 00:49:46,550 And so you didn't like that I said that to somebody, 1405 00:49:46,617 --> 00:49:48,410 and I was just trying to dry clean your shit. 1406 00:49:48,444 --> 00:49:50,354 I lent it to you over my own kid. 1407 00:49:50,421 --> 00:49:51,655 -You didn't tell me that. -You never gave it back, but-- 1408 00:49:51,689 --> 00:49:53,148 I gave it back. I gave it back the day I got home. 1409 00:49:53,249 --> 00:49:54,942 "Kind of smelled like smoke." I didn't even smoke in it. 1410 00:49:54,975 --> 00:49:56,652 We had to hide it in the closet because it stunk up 1411 00:49:56,752 --> 00:49:58,062 the whole room. I had my children that night. 1412 00:49:58,095 --> 00:50:01,090 All right. Okay, so you fought about a smoky snowsuit. 1413 00:50:01,123 --> 00:50:04,768 I wonder how this leaves you. I mean, have you-- 1414 00:50:04,869 --> 00:50:05,995 I thought we recovered. 1415 00:50:06,095 --> 00:50:07,505 And then, obviously, watching it back, 1416 00:50:07,538 --> 00:50:09,540 I was pretty surprised that Liz didn't text me and be like, 1417 00:50:09,607 --> 00:50:11,242 "Hey, listen, I didn't remember doing that. 1418 00:50:11,275 --> 00:50:12,401 I'm sorry that I did that." 1419 00:50:12,468 --> 00:50:14,169 I think of Liz as a very close friend. 1420 00:50:14,270 --> 00:50:16,146 I was just with Liz on Mother's Day 1421 00:50:16,247 --> 00:50:17,948 a week and a half, two weeks ago. 1422 00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:20,618 But it makes me question, maybe--maybe she's right. 1423 00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:22,052 Maybe we're not friends. 1424 00:50:22,086 --> 00:50:24,455 When did this narrative come from 1425 00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:26,090 that we were ever best friends? 1426 00:50:26,156 --> 00:50:27,917 I thought we were, and I was gravely mistaken. 1427 00:50:27,983 --> 00:50:29,326 Well, you spent Mother's Day together. 1428 00:50:29,426 --> 00:50:30,461 -We never even really got along. -I was gravely mistaken. 1429 00:50:30,561 --> 00:50:31,729 You spent Mother's Day together. 1430 00:50:31,795 --> 00:50:33,063 Yeah, I picked her up. She was upset because 1431 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:34,265 her mother and sister... -She called me on Mother's Day. 1432 00:50:34,331 --> 00:50:35,866 -...left her out. -You called me on Mother's Day 1433 00:50:35,933 --> 00:50:37,368 and said, "I'm having a bad day. Do you want to go for a drive?" 1434 00:50:37,468 --> 00:50:39,161 We went. We had drinks. I had a good day before that with Gary. 1435 00:50:39,261 --> 00:50:41,030 You are one of--You truly are a dangerous motherfucker. 1436 00:50:41,096 --> 00:50:43,265 But my mom did not invite me out to Mother's Day. 1437 00:50:43,332 --> 00:50:48,846 You embody something... that...my soul rejects. 1438 00:50:48,946 --> 00:50:50,414 And I'm sorry that you think I reject you. 1439 00:50:50,447 --> 00:50:53,751 You embody something that I have to chase after, like my mother. 1440 00:50:53,817 --> 00:50:55,044 You're a narcissist like my mom. You just-- 1441 00:50:55,144 --> 00:50:56,587 I'm not your ma, babe. I'm not your ma, bitch. 1442 00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:58,013 But you are the same exact type of person. 1443 00:50:58,113 --> 00:50:59,823 -I'm not your ma, okay? -So I look for love with you, 1444 00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:01,592 and maybe I need to just distance myself 1445 00:51:01,625 --> 00:51:03,961 from you and her. 1446 00:51:04,028 --> 00:51:06,680 Alicia and Liz, where do the two of you stand now? 1447 00:51:06,714 --> 00:51:10,334 I will always love Liz. I know that she knows that. 1448 00:51:10,434 --> 00:51:12,570 We're good. We're good. I think we are. 1449 00:51:12,603 --> 00:51:14,463 I'm never gonna see you and not feel like 1450 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:16,140 I wanna laugh or feel like... -Right. 1451 00:51:16,206 --> 00:51:18,943 Aw, Alicia, the other day, I walked in a place and went, 1452 00:51:18,976 --> 00:51:20,477 "I love a good fireplace." 1453 00:51:20,544 --> 00:51:21,912 And I'm like, what did you just say? 1454 00:51:22,012 --> 00:51:23,147 -Like, I mean... -Yeah, I call people "Dolly." 1455 00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:24,873 You just bring happy vibes. Like... 1456 00:51:27,251 --> 00:51:29,386 ...that I really was remorseful that day 1457 00:51:29,453 --> 00:51:31,088 and 10 days after that. 1458 00:51:31,155 --> 00:51:32,815 Whew. 1459 00:51:32,881 --> 00:51:35,059 Okay, and we're gonna leave it there, 1460 00:51:35,125 --> 00:51:36,460 and we are gonna be right back. 1461 00:51:36,527 --> 00:51:40,698 ♪♪♪ 1462 00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:42,091 Coming up... 1463 00:51:42,157 --> 00:51:43,500 I don't know what's bigger, 1464 00:51:43,567 --> 00:51:46,837 your mouth or what's between your legs. Bitch, fuck you. 1465 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:48,222 I'm gonna break your fucking nose. 1466 00:51:48,255 --> 00:51:49,565 Say something, Rulla. You're fucking nuts. 1467 00:51:55,546 --> 00:51:57,081 Welcome back 1468 00:51:57,114 --> 00:51:59,450 to "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion. 1469 00:51:59,516 --> 00:52:01,910 So, Rosie, you shared some of your issues 1470 00:52:01,944 --> 00:52:03,712 with your mom. -Yeah. 1471 00:52:03,779 --> 00:52:05,622 -Has she seen the show? -Mm-hmm. 1472 00:52:05,723 --> 00:52:07,449 -And? -I don't think she loves it. 1473 00:52:07,549 --> 00:52:08,559 Rosie and Jo-Ellen, 1474 00:52:08,592 --> 00:52:10,919 you both have had issues with your mom. 1475 00:52:10,953 --> 00:52:12,888 Is that something that the two of you bonded over? 1476 00:52:12,955 --> 00:52:15,199 Yeah, I think we did. Rosie and I went for a walk, 1477 00:52:15,265 --> 00:52:17,067 and we kinda talked about our past, our lives, 1478 00:52:17,101 --> 00:52:19,837 and we had a lot of similarities with our mothers. 1479 00:52:19,870 --> 00:52:23,374 My mom can be very controlling, and she can be very critical. 1480 00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:24,375 It's like the always having a problem, 1481 00:52:24,408 --> 00:52:25,734 Nothing's ever good enough. 1482 00:52:25,801 --> 00:52:27,770 Rosie, everything you're saying, I'm like, five years 1483 00:52:27,803 --> 00:52:29,646 ahead of you right now. -Yeah. 1484 00:52:29,713 --> 00:52:30,906 And especially with the way she treats me. 1485 00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:32,716 -It doesn't stop hurting. -Mm-hmm. 1486 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:34,284 -I'm never gonna get that... -What you want. 1487 00:52:34,385 --> 00:52:35,978 ..."I love you, Jo-Ellen." 1488 00:52:36,078 --> 00:52:38,255 -Or if you do, it's not real. -It's not real. 1489 00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:39,748 We definitely got to know each other a lot better 1490 00:52:39,815 --> 00:52:41,417 because of it. 1491 00:52:41,483 --> 00:52:43,093 Rosie, at Trivia, you said that Jo-Ellen, 1492 00:52:43,127 --> 00:52:45,929 Liz, and Kelsey have a clique. -Mm-hmm. 1493 00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:47,765 Why do you think they're so tight, 1494 00:52:47,798 --> 00:52:49,266 and how do you feel about it? 1495 00:52:49,366 --> 00:52:51,568 They all know each other. They're all from Cranston. 1496 00:52:51,602 --> 00:52:53,062 That's probably part of it. 1497 00:52:53,128 --> 00:52:55,472 I know that Alicia liking me was like a huge issue for them. 1498 00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:57,408 They started calling her the flip-flopper. 1499 00:52:57,508 --> 00:52:59,134 I think that they're just protecting each other, 1500 00:52:59,168 --> 00:53:00,511 and that's nice. 1501 00:53:00,577 --> 00:53:02,579 I think that all three of them jumped down my throat 1502 00:53:02,613 --> 00:53:05,582 at the mansion from a backhanded compliment. 1503 00:53:05,616 --> 00:53:07,418 Like, there's blind loyalty there. 1504 00:53:07,518 --> 00:53:10,387 Rosie, I think that was the first genuine thing 1505 00:53:10,454 --> 00:53:11,955 that came out of your mouth. 1506 00:53:12,022 --> 00:53:15,826 I actually felt for a second that you were telling the truth. 1507 00:53:15,859 --> 00:53:18,128 What have I not told the truth about? 1508 00:53:18,162 --> 00:53:20,030 She's giving you a compliment, and you just went 1509 00:53:20,097 --> 00:53:21,131 right on the defensive. So she's telling you, like, 1510 00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:22,833 "Hey, I thought you were being genuine." 1511 00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:24,468 Those were good words. 1512 00:53:24,535 --> 00:53:26,570 They were. I thought that was genuine. 1513 00:53:26,637 --> 00:53:30,107 In the moment, I was genuine about what I said. 1514 00:53:30,207 --> 00:53:31,842 I really did think that that was her-- 1515 00:53:31,942 --> 00:53:33,544 I mean, she can roll her eyes. That's fine. 1516 00:53:33,610 --> 00:53:35,112 -[scoffs] -But I really did think 1517 00:53:35,145 --> 00:53:36,513 that she was being genuine. 1518 00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:38,707 Looking back on it, watching it, 1519 00:53:38,807 --> 00:53:40,984 I was like, ooh, the attitude that I said 1520 00:53:41,018 --> 00:53:42,720 sounded a little bit condescending. 1521 00:53:42,786 --> 00:53:44,221 -Yeah. -So I get it now, 1522 00:53:44,321 --> 00:53:45,714 watching back, but in that moment, 1523 00:53:45,814 --> 00:53:48,392 I genuinely did feel like she was being honest. 1524 00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:51,487 I think tailing it with "You're being honest for the first time" 1525 00:53:51,553 --> 00:53:53,021 was the issue. 1526 00:53:53,055 --> 00:53:55,399 Yeah, and--and I mean, listen, I said what I said. 1527 00:53:55,466 --> 00:53:58,494 Did you mean more you're being open for the first time, 1528 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,529 not honest? -Do you accept her apology? 1529 00:54:00,562 --> 00:54:02,397 Well, I don't think that was an apology. 1530 00:54:02,464 --> 00:54:03,665 -Oh, was that an apology? -No, it was just an explanation. 1531 00:54:03,732 --> 00:54:05,476 Well, she said-- it was an acknowledgement. 1532 00:54:05,542 --> 00:54:06,869 ALICIA: I think they were trying to sniff you out. 1533 00:54:06,902 --> 00:54:08,537 They wanted to know who your family was. 1534 00:54:08,570 --> 00:54:10,380 They wanted to know more about you, who your ex-boyfriend is. 1535 00:54:10,414 --> 00:54:11,907 This is just like a Rhode Island thing. 1536 00:54:11,974 --> 00:54:14,376 I know that for me, personally, I don't do, 1537 00:54:14,409 --> 00:54:17,087 like, the clique thing. I do not do that. 1538 00:54:17,187 --> 00:54:19,323 I never had anything against her. 1539 00:54:19,356 --> 00:54:20,991 I don't have, like, blind loyalty. 1540 00:54:21,024 --> 00:54:23,227 I've made attempts with you. 1541 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,020 I've called you if I thought something was nice. 1542 00:54:25,087 --> 00:54:27,089 -Mm-hmm. -I don't do that staunch, 1543 00:54:27,189 --> 00:54:28,223 "If you hate her, I hate her" 1544 00:54:28,257 --> 00:54:31,268 'cause, certainly, no one does that for me. 1545 00:54:31,335 --> 00:54:33,036 Jo-Ellen was the one that told me a couple months ago 1546 00:54:33,137 --> 00:54:34,271 you had a whole group chat where 1547 00:54:34,338 --> 00:54:35,906 you talked shit about me... -I heard that. 1548 00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:37,174 ...and made them delete it. -I heard that. So, Jo-Ellen-- 1549 00:54:37,241 --> 00:54:38,742 You know, and hearing other things like that, 1550 00:54:38,842 --> 00:54:41,078 so, like, that makes me think, okay, like, 1551 00:54:41,111 --> 00:54:43,080 I know Kelsey doesn't like me, clearly. 1552 00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:44,915 Jo-Ellen talks shit about me as much as she can. 1553 00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:46,909 Then she tells me we're friends. And you hang out with them, 1554 00:54:46,942 --> 00:54:48,185 So how am I supposed to know what to do? 1555 00:54:48,218 --> 00:54:49,753 So how would I talk about that? Yeah, like, 1556 00:54:49,853 --> 00:54:51,246 sometimes we talk shit about you. 1557 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,385 Once I started figuring out what this was over here, I'm like, 1558 00:54:56,451 --> 00:55:00,422 let's delete the thing and start over again. Right? 1559 00:55:00,455 --> 00:55:04,067 So what Jo-Ellen does is she has a dinner with Rosie 1560 00:55:04,168 --> 00:55:07,796 and tells Rosie I was so vicious in this text thread, 1561 00:55:07,896 --> 00:55:10,699 and I forced them all to delete it. 1562 00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:12,634 Not entirely accurate. 1563 00:55:12,701 --> 00:55:14,745 We all agreed to delete, you know, and this is 1564 00:55:14,778 --> 00:55:16,271 way before we started filming. 1565 00:55:16,305 --> 00:55:17,881 But why would you tell her I forced you? 1566 00:55:17,948 --> 00:55:20,083 ANDY: So it sounds like Rosie has good reason 1567 00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:23,420 to be suspicious of you guys. 1568 00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:25,214 We've all said negative things about each other. 1569 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,924 This was no different. 1570 00:55:26,957 --> 00:55:28,725 ANDY: On "Watch What Happens Live," 1571 00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:31,061 Jo-Ellen said Rosie stopped answering her texts 1572 00:55:31,128 --> 00:55:33,764 after the season began airing. -Mm-hmm. 1573 00:55:33,797 --> 00:55:36,658 That's not true. Like, I do text her on and off. 1574 00:55:36,725 --> 00:55:38,669 There was an extended period of time 1575 00:55:38,735 --> 00:55:40,204 where she was just saying really mean things 1576 00:55:40,237 --> 00:55:42,130 in the press about me, and it was hurting my feelings 1577 00:55:42,164 --> 00:55:44,107 because I thought we were becoming friends. 1578 00:55:44,174 --> 00:55:45,843 And then on top of that, 1579 00:55:45,943 --> 00:55:48,478 she started making these videos about "Rhode Trippin." 1580 00:55:48,512 --> 00:55:51,506 Come with us on our road trip to New York City. 1581 00:55:51,607 --> 00:55:53,016 What do you guys eat on a road trip? 1582 00:55:53,083 --> 00:55:54,718 I'll tell you my favorite thing in the entire world 1583 00:55:54,751 --> 00:55:57,646 for road trips. Slim Jims. 1584 00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:59,623 ROSIE: Thinking it was really funny to mock my job. 1585 00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:01,358 I did text you about that. My social media girl-- 1586 00:56:01,458 --> 00:56:02,492 Yeah, but you were making, like, four or five of them. 1587 00:56:02,593 --> 00:56:04,328 I don't believe that your social media girl 1588 00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:05,762 made you do these video. It was your idea. 1589 00:56:05,863 --> 00:56:08,357 My social media girl did it, and I even have the text to her, 1590 00:56:08,423 --> 00:56:10,033 and I said, "You have to be really careful. 1591 00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,526 You called that 'Road Tripping.'" 1592 00:56:11,627 --> 00:56:13,170 You did, like, four or five of them. 1593 00:56:13,203 --> 00:56:14,705 Rulla, stop speaking. 1594 00:56:14,771 --> 00:56:17,107 I don't even know who you are. Who? This is a new cast member. 1595 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:19,209 -Who are you?! Who are you?! -You're in three episodes. 1596 00:56:19,276 --> 00:56:20,669 -Who are you?! -Shut the fuck up. 1597 00:56:20,702 --> 00:56:21,878 -Fuck you, Jo-Ellen. -I'll get to you in a minute. 1598 00:56:21,945 --> 00:56:23,180 No one even knows who you are. Who are you? 1599 00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:24,373 I'm way more important than you, bitch. 1600 00:56:24,439 --> 00:56:25,616 -No, you're not. -Sit the fuck down. 1601 00:56:25,682 --> 00:56:26,583 -All I was gonna say-- -You are nobody. 1602 00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:27,818 So good that you're finally speaking. 1603 00:56:27,851 --> 00:56:29,152 -You're nobody. -'Cause you were in no episodes. 1604 00:56:29,186 --> 00:56:30,379 You're nobody. You're a fucking slut. That's all you are, 1605 00:56:30,445 --> 00:56:33,357 in the whole fucking state. -Whoo. 1606 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,459 You know what? Guess what. Your husband's a slut. 1607 00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,562 No, fuck you. You sleep with doctors! 1608 00:56:38,662 --> 00:56:40,731 You have it after my husband. You sleep with doctors! 1609 00:56:40,797 --> 00:56:43,225 -Sit down. You cannot-- -I don't know what's bigger, 1610 00:56:43,292 --> 00:56:45,135 your mouth or what's between your legs, bitch! 1611 00:56:45,168 --> 00:56:46,570 I'm gonna break your fucking nose. 1612 00:56:46,637 --> 00:56:49,106 Say something, Rulla. You're fucking nuts. 1613 00:56:49,139 --> 00:56:50,707 No. You all fucking know! You know! 1614 00:56:50,807 --> 00:56:52,668 -Know what? Know what? -You know! You know! 1615 00:56:52,734 --> 00:56:54,244 -Know what? -And you all know. 1616 00:56:54,344 --> 00:56:56,071 She's a fucking whore, but she wants to point the finger 1617 00:56:56,171 --> 00:56:57,539 at everybody else. -Oh, I am? Oh, I'm a whore? 1618 00:56:57,572 --> 00:56:58,882 -Your husband's not a whore? -Rulla, no. 1619 00:56:58,982 --> 00:57:01,251 Put my husband aside! He's a separate conversation! 1620 00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:02,711 Oh, no. You can't even admit that. 1621 00:57:02,744 --> 00:57:03,879 Please, bitch. 1622 00:57:03,912 --> 00:57:07,090 [dramatic music] 1623 00:57:10,394 --> 00:57:13,563 ANDY: Next week, the Reunion continues. 1624 00:57:13,597 --> 00:57:15,666 Alicia, I have something here for you. 1625 00:57:15,699 --> 00:57:18,368 ANDY: Gerry, Dino is a good friend of yours. 1626 00:57:18,468 --> 00:57:20,404 He's become more famous than us, I think. 1627 00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:23,674 Listen, you gotta tell Rulla everything. 1628 00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:24,875 -So the business... -Yeah. 1629 00:57:24,908 --> 00:57:27,703 Did you know that he made the mistress part owner? 1630 00:57:27,769 --> 00:57:29,313 Brian, why did you have a tracking device 1631 00:57:29,346 --> 00:57:30,981 on Rulla's car? 1632 00:57:31,014 --> 00:57:35,686 Brian, did you think, "Oh, well, this is gonna come out"? 1633 00:57:35,752 --> 00:57:37,454 [sniffles]