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The bodies continue to pile up
in Southern California.
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The bodies continue to pile up
in Southern California.
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The bodies continue to pile up
in Southern California.
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The madness has not ended.
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I didn't actually feel
I was getting the job done
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I didn't actually feel
I was getting the job done
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because we were having
so many of them.
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When they thought
they had something,
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another body would show up.
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And we're going back
and looking at the chart.
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"Wait a minute,
there might be a third guy here.
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"That MO was even
a little bit different."
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This guy was picking up marines.
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This guy was picking up marines.
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It's a trilogy of terror
with these three guys.
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He was the most sadistic
out of all of them.
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He was the most sadistic
out of all of them.
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He was the most sadistic
out of all of them.
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He really liked to torture
these people while they were alive.
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He really liked to torture
these people while they were alive.
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He came up with new and
imaginative ways of inflicting pain.
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He came up with new and
imaginative ways of inflicting pain.
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He came up with new and
imaginative ways of inflicting pain.
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He came up with new and
imaginative ways of inflicting pain.
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Total psychopath, way beyond being
any kind of a sociopath.
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Total psychopath, way beyond being
any kind of a sociopath.
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Police are confounded.
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There seems to be very little
that connects these young men.
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There seems to be very little
that connects these young men.
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They didn't know one another.
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They weren't even from
the same cities or towns.
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They weren't even from
the same cities or towns.
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He was a hunter.
People would hitchhike.
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And if he's willing to stop
and give them a ride,
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And if he's willing to stop
and give them a ride,
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that was not something unusual
back then either.
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that was not something unusual
back then either.
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A lot of times,
it was the drive to their death.
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A lot of times,
it was the drive to their death.
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REPORTER: Orange County
investigators are dealing with
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REPORTER: Orange County
investigators are dealing with
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a possible mass murderer
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and a list of victims
that continues to get longer.
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and a list of victims
that continues to get longer.
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REPORTER:
The most recent victim, however,
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is Geoffrey Nelson of Buena Park.
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The 18-year-old's body was thrown
from a moving car
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The 18-year-old's body was thrown
from a moving car
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onto the Garden Grove Freeway
last Saturday morning.
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onto the Garden Grove Freeway
last Saturday morning.
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{\an8}1977, Kearney is in prison.
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{\an8}1977, Kearney is in prison.
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{\an8}1980, they've got William Bonin.
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{\an8}1980, they've got William Bonin.
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{\an8}But the bodies continue to pile up
in Southern California.
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{\an8}But the bodies continue to pile up
in Southern California.
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{\an8}But the bodies continue to pile up
in Southern California.
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{\an8}The madness has not ended.
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{\an8}Once Bonin was convicted,
it was a big relief to us.
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{\an8}Once Bonin was convicted,
it was a big relief to us.
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{\an8}But there were still cases.
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{\an8}There were still bodies
being dropped.
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{\an8}And when going back
and looking at the chart,
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{\an8}we're saying, "Wait a minute,
there might be a third guy here.
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{\an8}we're saying, "Wait a minute,
there might be a third guy here.
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{\an8}"That MO was even
a little bit different."
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{\an8}This guy was picking up
marines hitchhiking.
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{\an8}This guy was picking up
marines hitchhiking.
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{\an8}And there was one case where he had
thrown a marine out of the car,
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{\an8}And there was one case where he had
thrown a marine out of the car,
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{\an8}out of a rolling vehicle.
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{\an8}We were aware of these.
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They were still contacting us
about any young boy
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who was murdered
anywhere near California.
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It's like a trilogy of terror
with these three guys.
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It's like a trilogy of terror
with these three guys.
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{\an8}There was a series of bodies found
with what could be considered
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{\an8}There was a series of bodies found
with what could be considered
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{\an8}There was a series of bodies found
with what could be considered
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{\an8}anti-gay treatment of the bodies
after death.
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{\an8}anti-gay treatment of the bodies
after death.
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{\an8}anti-gay treatment of the bodies
after death.
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{\an8}There were five or six of them
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{\an8}with foreign objects inserted
into them,
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{\an8}with foreign objects inserted
into them,
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{\an8}disgusting graphic behaviour
with dead bodies.
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{\an8}disgusting graphic behaviour
with dead bodies.
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{\an8}disgusting graphic behaviour
with dead bodies.
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{\an8}They are mutilated,
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{\an8}They are mutilated,
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{\an8}much more so than what we saw
with Kearney or with Bonin.
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{\an8}much more so than what we saw
with Kearney or with Bonin.
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{\an8}much more so than what we saw
with Kearney or with Bonin.
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{\an8}And it doesn't stop.
It continues more and more and more.
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{\an8}And it doesn't stop.
It continues more and more and more.
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{\an8}And it doesn't stop.
It continues more and more and more.
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The homicide victims
were brutalised,
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The homicide victims
were brutalised,
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and that's, like,
an understatement.
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There were beheadings.
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There were ligature marks,
torturing.
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There were ligature marks,
torturing.
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There was sodomise.
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There was sodomise.
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There were victims
that had tree branches
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There were victims
that had tree branches
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that were rammed up
inside of the victims,
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that were rammed up
inside of the victims,
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{\an8}all kinds of evidence
that these people had been,
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{\an8}all kinds of evidence
that these people had been,
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{\an8}in many cases,
slowly and agonisingly mutilated
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{\an8}in many cases,
slowly and agonisingly mutilated
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{\an8}in many cases,
slowly and agonisingly mutilated
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{\an8}in many cases,
slowly and agonisingly mutilated
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{\an8}before they were murdered
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{\an8}and brutalised further
after the fact.
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{\an8}and brutalised further
after the fact.
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Edward Daniel Moore was a marine,
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Edward Daniel Moore was a marine,
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and that's significant
with this killer
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and that's significant
with this killer
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because marines
were his favourite prey.
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because marines
were his favourite prey.
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{\an8}He used to troll places
like Camp Pendleton,
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{\an8}He used to troll places
like Camp Pendleton,
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{\an8}He used to troll places
like Camp Pendleton,
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{\an8}He used to troll places
like Camp Pendleton,
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{\an8}the El Toro Marine Air Base.
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{\an8}the El Toro Marine Air Base.
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{\an8}He knew that a good many of them
were young,
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{\an8}He knew that a good many of them
were young,
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not well-versed
in the ways of the world
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not well-versed
in the ways of the world
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and looking to get drunk
and forget about basic training.
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and looking to get drunk
and forget about basic training.
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and looking to get drunk
and forget about basic training.
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They almost uniformly had
no transportation
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They almost uniformly had
no transportation
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They almost uniformly had
no transportation
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because they were literally
fresh off the farm
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because they were literally
fresh off the farm
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without a driver's licence or a car,
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without a driver's licence or a car,
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and... they wanted to go out
and have a good time.
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and... they wanted to go out
and have a good time.
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He would go to the main gates
of these various military bases
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He would go to the main gates
of these various military bases
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He would go to the main gates
of these various military bases
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and... pick up hitchhikers
who wanted to go into town
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and... pick up hitchhikers
who wanted to go into town
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and... pick up hitchhikers
who wanted to go into town
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and get a drink, see a girl.
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Moore was the first of many.
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Moore was the first of many.
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What you find out
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as you look at the details
about how they died,
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as you look at the details
about how they died,
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as you look at the details
about how they died,
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it's the most horrendous thing
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it's the most horrendous thing
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a detective could ever experience
in a long career.
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a detective could ever experience
in a long career.
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a detective could ever experience
in a long career.
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Nothing can match
the sickening descriptions.
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Nothing can match
the sickening descriptions.
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Nothing can match
the sickening descriptions.
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He was probably the most sadistic
out of all of them.
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He was probably the most sadistic
out of all of them.
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He really liked to torture
these people while they were alive,
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He really liked to torture
these people while they were alive,
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He really liked to torture
these people while they were alive,
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{\an8}cut off their genitals,
sometimes biting their genitals off,
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{\an8}cut off their genitals,
sometimes biting their genitals off,
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{\an8}taking the cigarette lighter
from a car
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{\an8}taking the cigarette lighter
from a car
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{\an8}and burning their eyeballs
with it...
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{\an8}and burning their eyeballs
with it...
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{\an8}um, mutilating them, cutting them.
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{\an8}um, mutilating them, cutting them.
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{\an8}And then he would be driving
down the highway
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{\an8}And then he would be driving
down the highway
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{\an8}and just toss their body
out of the car.
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{\an8}and just toss their body
out of the car.
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He just looked at these people
as pieces of meat.
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He just looked at these people
as pieces of meat.
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And then once he was done,
he would discard them like trash.
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And then once he was done,
he would discard them like trash.
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And then once he was done,
he would discard them like trash.
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He came up with new
and imaginative ways
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He came up with new
and imaginative ways
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He came up with new
and imaginative ways
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of inflicting pain -
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of inflicting pain -
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jamming things up people's rectums
and scoring their scrotums
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jamming things up people's rectums
and scoring their scrotums
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jamming things up people's rectums
and scoring their scrotums
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and splitting their, um, penises
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and splitting their, um, penises
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and splitting their, um, penises
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and just... the most horrible,
awful, despicable things
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and just... the most horrible,
awful, despicable things
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and just... the most horrible,
awful, despicable things
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that one human being can do
to another.
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that one human being can do
to another.
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{\an8}Total psychopath. Way beyond being
any kind of a sociopath.
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{\an8}Total psychopath. Way beyond being
any kind of a sociopath.
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{\an8}He didn't care about anything
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{\an8}except his own desires
and torturing people.
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{\an8}except his own desires
and torturing people.
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{\an8}He got off torturing,
horribly torturing these kids.
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{\an8}He got off torturing,
horribly torturing these kids.
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{\an8}He was a hunter, and a lot of times,
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{\an8}his victims were victims
of circumstance.
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{\an8}his victims were victims
of circumstance.
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{\an8}Sometimes, there were accounts
that he befriended
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{\an8}Sometimes, there were accounts
that he befriended
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{\an8}these individuals
in some of the local establishments,
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{\an8}these individuals
in some of the local establishments,
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{\an8}spent some time with them
and then convinced them to drive.
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{\an8}spent some time with them
and then convinced them to drive.
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{\an8}spent some time with them
and then convinced them to drive.
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{\an8}People would hitchhike,
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{\an8}and if he's willing to stop
and give them a ride,
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{\an8}that was not something unusual
back then either.
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{\an8}that was not something unusual
back then either.
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A lot of times,
it was the drive to their death.
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A lot of times,
it was the drive to their death.
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Keith Crotwell was there
in the parking lot at Ripples.
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Keith Crotwell was there
in the parking lot at Ripples.
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Keith Crotwell was there
in the parking lot at Ripples.
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Ripples was
a up-and-coming gay disco,
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Ripples was
a up-and-coming gay disco,
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I guess you would call it.
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It was much more than a bar,
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but Crotwell went there
with a couple of his friends
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but Crotwell went there
with a couple of his friends
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to see if they could pick up girls.
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to see if they could pick up girls.
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And then this guy shows up,
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And then this guy shows up,
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after he's been circling
the parking lot for a while,
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after he's been circling
the parking lot for a while,
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after he's been circling
the parking lot for a while,
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who had a moustache
and had deep, dark eyes
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who had a moustache
and had deep, dark eyes
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that seemed to look
right through you, and says,
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that seemed to look
right through you, and says,
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"You guys need some brews?"
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"You guys need some brews?"
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And of course,
they thought that was a great idea.
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And of course,
they thought that was a great idea.
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So he had them hop in his car
and then took them for a ride
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So he had them hop in his car
and then took them for a ride
254
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So he had them hop in his car
and then took them for a ride
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and served up beer
that he already had
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and served up beer
that he already had
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in the cooler in his back seat.
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in the cooler in his back seat.
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Seemed very convenient, but,
you know, they were young and dumb
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Seemed very convenient, but,
you know, they were young and dumb
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and they didn't pay any attention
to any of the danger signals.
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and they didn't pay any attention
to any of the danger signals.
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And they took the beers,
and they drank them.
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And they took the beers,
and they drank them.
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One of them after the fact
described to me
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One of them after the fact
described to me
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how he got deposited out of the car
like he was too small a fish
268
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how he got deposited out of the car
like he was too small a fish
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how he got deposited out of the car
like he was too small a fish
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how he got deposited out of the car
like he was too small a fish
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being chucked out by the fishermen
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being chucked out by the fishermen
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who had a bigger fish
that he was gonna fry.
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who had a bigger fish
that he was gonna fry.
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His two buddies... you know,
they woke up with hangovers,
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His two buddies... you know,
they woke up with hangovers,
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His two buddies... you know,
they woke up with hangovers,
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and somehow, they got home.
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and somehow, they got home.
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But when they tried to get in touch
with Crotwell, he wasn't home.
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But when they tried to get in touch
with Crotwell, he wasn't home.
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And nobody knew where he was.
283
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And his parents started to think
that he had run away.
284
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And his parents started to think
that he had run away.
285
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Some time later,
a father and his boy were out
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Some time later,
a father and his boy were out
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on one of the jetties
at the Long Beach Marina...
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on one of the jetties
at the Long Beach Marina...
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on one of the jetties
at the Long Beach Marina...
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and they came across
a rotting human skull.
291
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and they came across
a rotting human skull.
292
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SIREN WAILING
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SIREN WAILING
294
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The police showed up.
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The police showed up.
296
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They bagged the skull
297
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They bagged the skull
298
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and did some testing
299
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and did some testing
300
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and matched it to a headless body
that had been found
301
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and matched it to a headless body
that had been found
302
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and matched it to a headless body
that had been found
303
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off of a freeway many miles away
from Long Beach in Orange County.
304
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off of a freeway many miles away
from Long Beach in Orange County.
305
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off of a freeway many miles away
from Long Beach in Orange County.
306
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Turned out it was Keith Crotwell.
307
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Turned out it was Keith Crotwell.
308
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And at least the mystery
of his disappearance was solved.
309
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And at least the mystery
of his disappearance was solved.
310
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And at least the mystery
of his disappearance was solved.
311
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But how his head was separated
from his body
312
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But how his head was separated
from his body
313
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went unsolved for quite a while.
314
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went unsolved for quite a while.
315
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They were dropping cases on us
left and right.
316
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They were dropping cases on us
left and right.
317
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I mean, it was unbelievable,
the burden that we had.
318
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I mean, it was unbelievable,
the burden that we had.
319
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And the serial killers
were just continuing.
320
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And the serial killers
were just continuing.
321
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Early on,
there was a lot of crossover
322
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Early on,
there was a lot of crossover
323
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because, obviously, they hadn't
identified Bonin or Kearney.
324
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because, obviously, they hadn't
identified Bonin or Kearney.
325
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They just knew that they had
a bunch of victims.
326
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They just knew that they had
a bunch of victims.
327
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And then
within those victim profiles,
328
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And then
within those victim profiles,
329
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there were certain differences
among those victims,
330
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there were certain differences
among those victims,
331
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primarily in the way
they were killed.
332
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One of the big things
that they focused on
333
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One of the big things
that they focused on
334
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was the alcohol
and diazepam overdose.
335
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was the alcohol
and diazepam overdose.
336
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,600
There were also things
about victims being emasculated
337
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There were also things
about victims being emasculated
338
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and also victims being dumped
on the side of freeways.
339
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and also victims being dumped
on the side of freeways.
340
00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,800
Whoever was doing that,
the suspicion was
341
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Whoever was doing that,
the suspicion was
342
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Whoever was doing that,
the suspicion was
343
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they had been exposed
to some military training.
344
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they had been exposed
to some military training.
345
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A couple of techniques
that were used,
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A couple of techniques
that were used,
347
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putting paper in the nostrils,
that would be done
348
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putting paper in the nostrils,
that would be done
349
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putting paper in the nostrils,
that would be done
350
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to keep liquids from expelling
out of the nostrils after death.
351
00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,520
to keep liquids from expelling
out of the nostrils after death.
352
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to keep liquids from expelling
out of the nostrils after death.
353
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When you're hauling the body away
to dump it,
354
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When you're hauling the body away
to dump it,
355
00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000
it doesn't mess up your car
or your van.
356
00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,760
it doesn't mess up your car
or your van.
357
00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800
Another thing, using a sock,
358
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Another thing, using a sock,
359
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stuffing it into the rectum
in order to prevent the corpse
360
00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,160
stuffing it into the rectum
in order to prevent the corpse
361
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stuffing it into the rectum
in order to prevent the corpse
362
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from expelling fluids that way.
363
00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,960
from expelling fluids that way.
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from expelling fluids that way.
365
00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,280
And that was an important clue
that they had to go on.
366
00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,200
And that was an important clue
that they had to go on.
367
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,400
I didn't actually feel
I was getting the job done
368
00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:28,720
I didn't actually feel
I was getting the job done
369
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because we were having
so many of them.
370
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{\an8}And I think
everybody involved realised
371
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{\an8}And I think
everybody involved realised
372
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{\an8}that we had six investigators
working on this thing
373
00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:37,480
{\an8}that we had six investigators
working on this thing
374
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{\an8}16 hours a day.
375
00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,880
{\an8}When they thought
they'd have something,
376
00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,000
{\an8}another body would show up.
377
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000
Mark Hall went out partying
on New Year's with his friends.
378
00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,040
Mark Hall went out partying
on New Year's with his friends.
379
00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,680
Mark Hall went out partying
on New Year's with his friends.
380
00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,720
Everybody got drunk, and everybody
half-remembered what happened.
381
00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,880
Everybody got drunk, and everybody
half-remembered what happened.
382
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,680
Everybody got drunk, and everybody
half-remembered what happened.
383
00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,720
The bottom line was, the next day,
Mark Hall was among the missing,
384
00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,760
The bottom line was, the next day,
Mark Hall was among the missing,
385
00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,120
The bottom line was, the next day,
Mark Hall was among the missing,
386
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,160
and... the friends had no idea
what happened to him.
387
00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,200
and... the friends had no idea
what happened to him.
388
00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:13,720
and... the friends had no idea
what happened to him.
389
00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,760
Only several days later
did they learn
390
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,800
Only several days later
did they learn
391
00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,840
that he had been murdered
392
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,880
that he had been murdered
393
00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:21,120
that he had been murdered
394
00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,160
and his horribly mutilated body
395
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,200
and his horribly mutilated body
396
00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,240
was left in a relatively remote part
of southern Orange County.
397
00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,280
was left in a relatively remote part
of southern Orange County.
398
00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,240
was left in a relatively remote part
of southern Orange County.
399
00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,040
{\an8}Police are confounded by this
because there seems to be
400
00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,080
{\an8}Police are confounded by this
because there seems to be
401
00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:37,560
{\an8}Police are confounded by this
because there seems to be
402
00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,600
{\an8}very little
that connects these young men.
403
00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,680
{\an8}very little
that connects these young men.
404
00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,360
{\an8}They didn't know one another.
405
00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,400
{\an8}They weren't even from
the same cities or towns.
406
00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,720
{\an8}They weren't even from
the same cities or towns.
407
00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,080
{\an8}And what was the link?
408
00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,120
{\an8}What was the factor, the X factor,
409
00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:49,400
{\an8}What was the factor, the X factor,
410
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,440
{\an8}that would make it possible
to find out who was doing this?
411
00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,480
{\an8}that would make it possible
to find out who was doing this?
412
00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:54,680
Nobody knew where to turn.
413
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,480
{\an8}The CHP, California Highway Patrol,
they were patrolling the 5 freeway
414
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520
{\an8}The CHP, California Highway Patrol,
they were patrolling the 5 freeway
415
00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:11,360
{\an8}The CHP, California Highway Patrol,
they were patrolling the 5 freeway
416
00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,400
{\an8}down by Mission Viejo
in Orange County,
417
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,480
{\an8}down by Mission Viejo
in Orange County,
418
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,520
{\an8}and there was a sergeant
and his officer in a car
419
00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,560
{\an8}and there was a sergeant
and his officer in a car
420
00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,440
{\an8}and there was a sergeant
and his officer in a car
421
00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,000
{\an8}because there wasn't much happening.
422
00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,360
{\an8}It was kind of a slow night.
423
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,400
And they see this car weaving.
424
00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:25,680
And they see this car weaving.
425
00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,720
It's starting to weave
from lane to lane.
426
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,880
It's starting to weave
from lane to lane.
427
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,920
"What's going on?"
"Well, it could be a DUI."
428
00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,600
"What's going on?"
"Well, it could be a DUI."
429
00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,240
{\an8}He was driving a little bit slower
than the posted speed limit.
430
00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,120
{\an8}He was driving a little bit slower
than the posted speed limit.
431
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,160
{\an8}He was weaving
in and out of his lanes.
432
00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,600
{\an8}He was weaving
in and out of his lanes.
433
00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,440
{\an8}He was kind of driving
on the right shoulder,
434
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,480
{\an8}so they thought that this individual
was intoxicated,
435
00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,480
{\an8}so they thought that this individual
was intoxicated,
436
00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,520
{\an8}so they initiated a traffic stop.
437
00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:45,720
{\an8}so they initiated a traffic stop.
438
00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,200
Initially, he did not stop.
He kept driving.
439
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,280
Initially, he did not stop.
He kept driving.
440
00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,320
They shined the light
in the back of the car.
441
00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,280
They shined the light
in the back of the car.
442
00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,320
They can see the driver
moving around inside the vehicle,
443
00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,000
They can see the driver
moving around inside the vehicle,
444
00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,040
which, again,
raises the officers' suspicions.
445
00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,920
which, again,
raises the officers' suspicions.
446
00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,960
But he eventually pulls over
to the right shoulder and stops.
447
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,120
But he eventually pulls over
to the right shoulder and stops.
448
00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,480
Once he stops,
he gets out of the car
449
00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,880
Once he stops,
he gets out of the car
450
00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,920
and comes back
and approaches the officers on foot.
451
00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,440
and comes back
and approaches the officers on foot.
452
00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,480
Based on my experience,
that, again, is also suspicious
453
00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,960
Based on my experience,
that, again, is also suspicious
454
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,680
because one of two things -
455
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,720
most people don't approach
officers at a stop,
456
00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,720
most people don't approach
officers at a stop,
457
00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,720
and number two,
the way my brain works is,
458
00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,760
"There's something in the car
that he doesn't want me to see,
459
00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,160
"There's something in the car
that he doesn't want me to see,
460
00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200
"so he's distracting my attention
away from the car."
461
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:26,440
"so he's distracting my attention
away from the car."
462
00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,040
These two officers do
their DUI investigation.
463
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,960
These two officers do
their DUI investigation.
464
00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,560
He takes him
to the side of the highway,
465
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,840
He takes him
to the side of the highway,
466
00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,880
and he's saying,
"Wait, have you been drinking?"
467
00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,080
and he's saying,
"Wait, have you been drinking?"
468
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,120
"Uh, I only had two drinks.
I only had two drinks."
469
00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,080
"Uh, I only had two drinks.
I only had two drinks."
470
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,120
"Well, we want to check you out
and see."
471
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:44,920
"Well, we want to check you out
and see."
472
00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,520
They give him
the field sobriety test.
473
00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,560
He's not passing it.
He's having difficulty.
474
00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,440
He's not passing it.
He's having difficulty.
475
00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,480
He's slurring his speech.
He's stumbling.
476
00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:51,960
He's slurring his speech.
He's stumbling.
477
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,680
He can't do finger-to-nose.
478
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,720
They make the determination
that the driver's
479
00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,640
They make the determination
that the driver's
480
00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,680
under the influence
of an intoxicating substance.
481
00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,240
under the influence
of an intoxicating substance.
482
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,840
They place him under arrest
483
00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,880
and put him in the back seat
of their patrol car.
484
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,120
and put him in the back seat
of their patrol car.
485
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,560
The passenger officer goes up
to check on the car.
486
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,600
The passenger officer goes up
to check on the car.
487
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:08,920
The passenger officer goes up
to check on the car.
488
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,960
They notice an individual sitting
on the passenger seat of that car.
489
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000
They notice an individual sitting
on the passenger seat of that car.
490
00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,480
They notice an individual sitting
on the passenger seat of that car.
491
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,800
Initially, the officer thinks
492
00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,840
that he's either passed out
or asleep.
493
00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,480
that he's either passed out
or asleep.
494
00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520
He tries to rouse him
to see what his story is.
495
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,560
He tries to rouse him
to see what his story is.
496
00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:21,880
He tries to rouse him
to see what his story is.
497
00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,920
Perhaps he can,
you know, drive the car away,
498
00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,200
Perhaps he can,
you know, drive the car away,
499
00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,240
but that passenger is unresponsive.
500
00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:26,440
but that passenger is unresponsive.
501
00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,920
So, one of the two officers
went over to the passenger side,
502
00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960
So, one of the two officers
went over to the passenger side,
503
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,280
So, one of the two officers
went over to the passenger side,
504
00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,320
opened the door,
and the fellow fell over.
505
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,080
opened the door,
and the fellow fell over.
506
00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,640
The officer steps in there
and kind of shakes the guy.
507
00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,960
The officer steps in there
and kind of shakes the guy.
508
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,240
The guy doesn't move.
509
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,280
And then he takes a pulse.
510
00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,560
And then he takes a pulse.
511
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,960
It's cold.
512
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000
And then all of a sudden,
he opens the door.
513
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,200
And then all of a sudden,
he opens the door.
514
00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,240
And there it is - the guy
is exposed, his genitals showing.
515
00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,840
And there it is - the guy
is exposed, his genitals showing.
516
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,880
SIREN WAILING
His hands are secured behind him.
517
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,040
SIREN WAILING
His hands are secured behind him.
518
00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,840
And he looks a little closer,
and it looks to be
519
00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,880
some ligature marks around his neck.
520
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,960
some ligature marks around his neck.
521
00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:07,120
They were his shoelaces that
had been tied around his wrists,
522
00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,160
They were his shoelaces that
had been tied around his wrists,
523
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,400
They were his shoelaces that
had been tied around his wrists,
524
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,440
and that he'd probably been
strangled with a belt.
525
00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,440
and that he'd probably been
strangled with a belt.
526
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,480
He was a tall fellow
and turned out that he was a marine
527
00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,520
He was a tall fellow
and turned out that he was a marine
528
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,560
He was a tall fellow
and turned out that he was a marine
529
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:21,240
He was a tall fellow
and turned out that he was a marine
530
00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,280
who had been stationed
at nearby Camp Pendleton
531
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,160
who had been stationed
at nearby Camp Pendleton
532
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,160
in southern Orange County.
533
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,200
They called EMTs, and they showed up
534
00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,200
They called EMTs, and they showed up
535
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,240
and transported the victim
to the nearest hospital,
536
00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,280
and transported the victim
to the nearest hospital,
537
00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,040
and transported the victim
to the nearest hospital,
538
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,080
but they determined that he was
pretty much dead on arrival.
539
00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,120
but they determined that he was
pretty much dead on arrival.
540
00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:40,360
but they determined that he was
pretty much dead on arrival.
541
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,680
This was just supposed to be
a DUI stop,
542
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,400
This was just supposed to be
a DUI stop,
543
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,040
an easy traffic stop.
544
00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,160
They're gonna have to call
the homicide detectives.
545
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,440
They're gonna have to call
the homicide detectives.
546
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,320
There's a dead body in the car.
547
00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,360
His story was that he just picked up
this individual
548
00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,400
His story was that he just picked up
this individual
549
00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,440
hitchhiking on the side of the road
550
00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,480
and perhaps he had
some sort of medical emergency,
551
00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,680
and perhaps he had
some sort of medical emergency,
552
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,720
perhaps he ingested
some sort of substance
553
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,600
perhaps he ingested
some sort of substance
554
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,640
that led to his death.
555
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:05,920
that led to his death.
556
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960
The driver of the car was arrested
for suspected homicide.
557
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000
The driver of the car was arrested
for suspected homicide.
558
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,080
The driver of the car was arrested
for suspected homicide.
559
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,040
That is not the end of the story.
560
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,240
They identified the driver through
his California identification.
561
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,680
They identified the driver through
his California identification.
562
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720
And at the time,
he had a limited criminal history.
563
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760
And at the time,
he had a limited criminal history.
564
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,000
And at the time,
he had a limited criminal history.
565
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,800
He had some arrests for solicitation
in Long Beach.
566
00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,840
He had some arrests for solicitation
in Long Beach.
567
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,200
He had some arrests for solicitation
in Long Beach.
568
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,640
The driver turned out to be
a computer repairman
569
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,920
The driver turned out to be
a computer repairman
570
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,960
named Randy Steven Kraft.
571
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,160
named Randy Steven Kraft.
572
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,920
They called the homicide detectives
because there was a dead body there,
573
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,560
They called the homicide detectives
because there was a dead body there,
574
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,600
and eventually,
they searched the car.
575
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:49,840
and eventually,
they searched the car.
576
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,240
When they went into the trunk,
they found a piece of paper,
577
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,280
When they went into the trunk,
they found a piece of paper,
578
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,600
When they went into the trunk,
they found a piece of paper,
579
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,640
and it had
all these names abbreviated,
580
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,040
and it had
all these names abbreviated,
581
00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,080
and they went down.
582
00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,120
The first one was "Stable".
583
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,400
The first one was "Stable".
584
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,440
It turned out that was
where Randy Kraft would pick up.
585
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,440
It turned out that was
where Randy Kraft would pick up.
586
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,400
That was one of the gay bars.
587
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,440
And you go down,
it would say the name
588
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,280
And you go down,
it would say the name
589
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,280
of where the person was picked up
590
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,320
or some characteristic
of that person all the way down,
591
00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:15,640
or some characteristic
of that person all the way down,
592
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,680
but it talked about other places
like Portland, Oregon.
593
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,400
but it talked about other places
like Portland, Oregon.
594
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,120
It talked about Michigan.
595
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,320
One thing leads to another,
596
00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:24,360
and they think that Kraft
might have been responsible
597
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,680
and they think that Kraft
might have been responsible
598
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,280
for, like, 67 murders.
599
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,080
Randy Kraft was born 1945,
grew up in Southern California.
600
00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,120
Randy Kraft was born 1945,
grew up in Southern California.
601
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,160
Randy Kraft was born 1945,
grew up in Southern California.
602
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:43,480
Randy Kraft was born 1945,
grew up in Southern California.
603
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,520
His parents had moved out here
at the beginning of World War II
604
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560
His parents had moved out here
at the beginning of World War II
605
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:47,920
His parents had moved out here
at the beginning of World War II
606
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,960
to work in the defence industry,
his father for an aircraft maker.
607
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,800
to work in the defence industry,
his father for an aircraft maker.
608
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,040
{\an8}He had three older sisters, who were
substantially older than him.
609
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,080
{\an8}He had three older sisters, who were
substantially older than him.
610
00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:58,320
{\an8}He had three older sisters, who were
substantially older than him.
611
00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:00,360
{\an8}He was doted upon because he was
the only boy in the family.
612
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,400
{\an8}He was doted upon because he was
the only boy in the family.
613
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,520
{\an8}He was doted upon because he was
the only boy in the family.
614
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,560
And all three of his sisters
and his mother
615
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,880
And all three of his sisters
and his mother
616
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,920
treated him with deference.
617
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,520
treated him with deference.
618
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,080
He was the little prince.
619
00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,120
But there was this dark...
aspect of his early upbringing.
620
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,160
But there was this dark...
aspect of his early upbringing.
621
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,920
But there was this dark...
aspect of his early upbringing.
622
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,200
His father liked to drink,
623
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:20,480
His father liked to drink,
624
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,520
and he would have
this personality change
625
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,160
and he would have
this personality change
626
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,200
and go into rages at times.
627
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:25,480
and go into rages at times.
628
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,520
There are
a couple of bits of evidence in...
629
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,800
There are
a couple of bits of evidence in...
630
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,840
when Randy was a baby.
631
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,520
when Randy was a baby.
632
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,560
He supposedly fell down the stairs
633
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,600
He supposedly fell down the stairs
634
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,640
and broke his collarbone
when he was a toddler.
635
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,680
and broke his collarbone
when he was a toddler.
636
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:38,960
and broke his collarbone
when he was a toddler.
637
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,080
{\an8}Breaking a baby's collarbone
with a fall...
638
00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,080
{\an8}Breaking a baby's collarbone
with a fall...
639
00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,120
{\an8}is pretty damn difficult.
640
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,880
{\an8}is pretty damn difficult.
641
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,920
{\an8}I mean, babies don't just fall
and break a bone
642
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,240
{\an8}I mean, babies don't just fall
and break a bone
643
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,280
{\an8}the way that an alter kocker
like myself does.
644
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,320
{\an8}the way that an alter kocker
like myself does.
645
00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:55,000
{\an8}the way that an alter kocker
like myself does.
646
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,040
{\an8}Their bones are elastic.
647
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,760
{\an8}Their bones are elastic.
648
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,800
So the fact that he would have
a broken collarbone
649
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,840
So the fact that he would have
a broken collarbone
650
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,720
So the fact that he would have
a broken collarbone
651
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760
would cast suspicion on him
right off the bat.
652
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,480
would cast suspicion on him
right off the bat.
653
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,160
And then there was a second incident
654
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,200
{\an8}when he again suffered a fall
and passed out
655
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,240
{\an8}when he again suffered a fall
and passed out
656
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,240
{\an8}when he again suffered a fall
and passed out
657
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,280
{\an8}and had to be taken
to a health clinic nearby.
658
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000
{\an8}and had to be taken
to a health clinic nearby.
659
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,120
Both of these are incidents
when he was a baby,
660
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:19,520
Both of these are incidents
when he was a baby,
661
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,560
and the obvious culprit
would be his father.
662
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,760
and the obvious culprit
would be his father.
663
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,160
I haven't been able to ever get
anyone to confirm that.
664
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,600
I haven't been able to ever get
anyone to confirm that.
665
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,640
The closest that any of
the three sisters came to saying it
666
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,960
The closest that any of
the three sisters came to saying it
667
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000
was the middle sister, Doris,
who told me that,
668
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,760
was the middle sister, Doris,
who told me that,
669
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
"Yeah, Dad could really
put them away,
670
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,880
"Yeah, Dad could really
put them away,
671
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,920
"and when he did,
he was completely unpredictable."
672
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,080
"and when he did,
he was completely unpredictable."
673
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,240
{\an8}Randy grew up in the 1950s,
674
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:49,520
{\an8}Randy grew up in the 1950s,
675
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560
{\an8}identified as a conservative,
a Republican,
676
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,000
{\an8}identified as a conservative,
a Republican,
677
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,040
{\an8}as a young man, had said,
678
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,120
{\an8}as a young man, had said,
679
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,160
{\an8}"I want someday to be in politics,
perhaps a US Senator."
680
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,160
{\an8}"I want someday to be in politics,
perhaps a US Senator."
681
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,200
{\an8}That's what he was thinking
in the '50s.
682
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,160
{\an8}That's what he was thinking
in the '50s.
683
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200
In 1964, he was involved in politics
as a 19-year-old.
684
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,240
In 1964, he was involved in politics
as a 19-year-old.
685
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,400
In 1964, he was involved in politics
as a 19-year-old.
686
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,440
He actually helped campaign
as a volunteer
687
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:09,880
He actually helped campaign
as a volunteer
688
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,920
for the Republican
presidential nominee,
689
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,080
for the Republican
presidential nominee,
690
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,640
Senator Barry Goldwater.
691
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,360
But then as he got a little older,
692
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:18,720
But then as he got a little older,
693
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,560
his political views
started changing.
694
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,600
He no longer reflected
his parents' views.
695
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,400
He no longer reflected
his parents' views.
696
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,440
He went off to college,
Claremont College,
697
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,080
He went off to college,
Claremont College,
698
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,120
where he joined the ROTC.
699
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,640
where he joined the ROTC.
700
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,680
And he became a little bit,
if you will,
701
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,520
And he became a little bit,
if you will,
702
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,560
more progressive or more liberal...
703
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:34,760
more progressive or more liberal...
704
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,440
..adopting political views
and cultural views
705
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,120
..adopting political views
and cultural views
706
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,160
that were more common
among college students in the 1960s.
707
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,200
that were more common
among college students in the 1960s.
708
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,440
that were more common
among college students in the 1960s.
709
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,120
He joined the US Air Force
710
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,160
and was assigned
to Edwards Air Force Base,
711
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,000
and was assigned
to Edwards Air Force Base,
712
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,040
which is just north
of Los Angeles County.
713
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,760
which is just north
of Los Angeles County.
714
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,160
He painted aircraft, supervised,
later became an airman first class.
715
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,200
He painted aircraft, supervised,
later became an airman first class.
716
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,560
He painted aircraft, supervised,
later became an airman first class.
717
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,600
So he had
a good Air Force career going.
718
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,560
So he had
a good Air Force career going.
719
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,680
Kraft had hinted to his parents
that he was gay.
720
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,640
Kraft had hinted to his parents
that he was gay.
721
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,680
He would bring his male friends
over to the house to meet them,
722
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,800
He would bring his male friends
over to the house to meet them,
723
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,840
but they didn't quite seem
to pick up on it until,
724
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,360
but they didn't quite seem
to pick up on it until,
725
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,400
finally, he came out and said,
"I'm gay."
726
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,640
finally, he came out and said,
"I'm gay."
727
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,400
His father didn't take it very well,
728
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,440
his mother
somewhat more understanding.
729
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:27,720
his mother
somewhat more understanding.
730
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200
It's also a confession, if you will,
that he made to the military,
731
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,840
It's also a confession, if you will,
that he made to the military,
732
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,840
to his supervisor
at Edwards Air Force Base.
733
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,080
to his supervisor
at Edwards Air Force Base.
734
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,200
If, in the '60s or the '70s,
the military found out,
735
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,240
If, in the '60s or the '70s,
the military found out,
736
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,880
If, in the '60s or the '70s,
the military found out,
737
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,920
especially you telling them
that you were gay,
738
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,440
especially you telling them
that you were gay,
739
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,760
they would kick you out.
740
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,120
They didn't want you.
741
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,160
So they initiated
a general discharge for him
742
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,920
So they initiated
a general discharge for him
743
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,280
for medical reasons,
744
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,320
almost as if Kraft had lost a leg
or something,
745
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,160
almost as if Kraft had lost a leg
or something,
746
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,200
that he wasn't fit,
not needed in the military any more.
747
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,200
that he wasn't fit,
not needed in the military any more.
748
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,240
And that ended his military career.
749
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,720
And that ended his military career.
750
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,280
Kraft returns home
to his parents' house
751
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,480
Kraft returns home
to his parents' house
752
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,520
and starts doing a variety of jobs,
including bartending,
753
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,560
and starts doing a variety of jobs,
including bartending,
754
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,120
and starts doing a variety of jobs,
including bartending,
755
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,160
working at gay bars,
working for a swimwear company,
756
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,280
working at gay bars,
working for a swimwear company,
757
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,920
working for a water company.
758
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,680
He goes back to school
759
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,720
and brushes up his education resume,
studying education.
760
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,760
and brushes up his education resume,
studying education.
761
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,640
and brushes up his education resume,
studying education.
762
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,680
He was
an aspiring computer programmer,
763
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,640
He was
an aspiring computer programmer,
764
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,680
which, given the early '80s,
was an up-and-coming field.
765
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,000
which, given the early '80s,
was an up-and-coming field.
766
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040
{\an8}He worked
for a couple different companies
767
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,040
{\an8}He worked
for a couple different companies
768
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,080
{\an8}and then worked
as an independent contractor as well
769
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,000
{\an8}and then worked
as an independent contractor as well
770
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040
{\an8}to do computer programming
for these institutions.
771
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,080
{\an8}to do computer programming
for these institutions.
772
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,560
He was living a homosexual lifestyle
in Long Beach.
773
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,160
He was living a homosexual lifestyle
in Long Beach.
774
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,200
He had a significant other
that he lived with in Long Beach.
775
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,240
He had a significant other
that he lived with in Long Beach.
776
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:49,560
He had a significant other
that he lived with in Long Beach.
777
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,600
They had an
"on again, off again" relationship.
778
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,800
They had an
"on again, off again" relationship.
779
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,360
But there was a dark side
to what Kraft was doing
780
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:56,640
But there was a dark side
to what Kraft was doing
781
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,680
in his years after the military.
782
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,120
in his years after the military.
783
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,160
He was cruising
the roads of Southern California,
784
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,920
He was cruising
the roads of Southern California,
785
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,960
going to gay bars,
picking up young men,
786
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,520
going to gay bars,
picking up young men,
787
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,560
drugging them
with drugs and alcohol,
788
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,040
drugging them
with drugs and alcohol,
789
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,080
sodomising and killing them.
790
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:11,400
sodomising and killing them.
791
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Now, Randy Kraft's victims
were older,
792
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,040
Now, Randy Kraft's victims
were older,
793
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,320
like, say, they were marines,
794
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,360
{\an8}so they were a little bit harder
to control.
795
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,600
{\an8}so they were a little bit harder
to control.
796
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,640
{\an8}But he was using drugs...
797
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,000
{\an8}But he was using drugs...
798
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,040
{\an8}and stuff of that nature
to knock them out
799
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:27,360
{\an8}and stuff of that nature
to knock them out
800
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,800
{\an8}and then strangle them
and kill them.
801
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Kraft began experimenting
with pharmaceuticals early on,
802
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,120
Kraft began experimenting
with pharmaceuticals early on,
803
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,120
Kraft began experimenting
with pharmaceuticals early on,
804
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,160
as early as his college days,
on his own girlfriend at the time -
805
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,200
as early as his college days,
on his own girlfriend at the time -
806
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,000
as early as his college days,
on his own girlfriend at the time -
807
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,040
because he did have a girlfriend
at one time -
808
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,920
because he did have a girlfriend
at one time -
809
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,960
and then, later on,
his so-called friends.
810
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,400
and then, later on,
his so-called friends.
811
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,440
He... He tried it out on them
to see...
812
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,480
He... He tried it out on them
to see...
813
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,200
He... He tried it out on them
to see...
814
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240
They were his guinea pigs
to see how they would react.
815
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,320
They were his guinea pigs
to see how they would react.
816
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,360
Over time,
he... kind of perfected it.
817
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Over time,
he... kind of perfected it.
818
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,560
That's what we were dealing with
back in the day.
819
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,160
That's what we were dealing with
back in the day.
820
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,480
It was surreal.
821
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,800
There was one marine victim
who he took a lot of pictures of,
822
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840
There was one marine victim
who he took a lot of pictures of,
823
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,280
There was one marine victim
who he took a lot of pictures of,
824
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,320
Polaroid shots,
who probably had been alive
825
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,360
Polaroid shots,
who probably had been alive
826
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,160
Polaroid shots,
who probably had been alive
827
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,160
for the better part of a week.
828
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,200
And... And he...
829
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,200
And... And he...
830
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,240
You know, he just kept dosing him
831
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,520
You know, he just kept dosing him
832
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,560
with exactly the right amount
of medication
833
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,600
with exactly the right amount
of medication
834
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,120
with exactly the right amount
of medication
835
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,160
because he wanted to, you know,
hear the screams, I guess.
836
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,600
because he wanted to, you know,
hear the screams, I guess.
837
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Kraft was a monster.
838
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Kraft was a monster.
839
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,800
One who survived Kraft was a biker
named Joey Fancher...
840
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840
One who survived Kraft was a biker
named Joey Fancher...
841
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,880
One who survived Kraft was a biker
named Joey Fancher...
842
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,640
One who survived Kraft was a biker
named Joey Fancher...
843
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,680
one of Kraft's earliest
would-be victims.
844
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,160
one of Kraft's earliest
would-be victims.
845
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,360
He was a 12- or 13-year-old
skateboarder in Huntington Beach.
846
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,400
He was a 12- or 13-year-old
skateboarder in Huntington Beach.
847
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,560
He was a 12- or 13-year-old
skateboarder in Huntington Beach.
848
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,960
He cut class on a regular basis.
849
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000
And he'd go down to the pier
in Huntington Beach.
850
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,520
And he'd go down to the pier
in Huntington Beach.
851
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,560
And he met this guy.
852
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:08,920
And he met this guy.
853
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,960
He talked a good line,
and, you know, lured Fancher
854
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,920
He talked a good line,
and, you know, lured Fancher
855
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960
to his hotel room, I guess,
on the promise of beer.
856
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
to his hotel room, I guess,
on the promise of beer.
857
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,840
to his hotel room, I guess,
on the promise of beer.
858
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,880
He gave him something to drink.
859
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,320
He gave him something to drink.
860
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,360
And the next thing Fancher knew,
he awakened in his bed.
861
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,400
And the next thing Fancher knew,
he awakened in his bed.
862
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,240
And the next thing Fancher knew,
he awakened in his bed.
863
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,200
His pants were down...
864
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,160
..and he was exposed.
865
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,440
There was nobody there,
but it was getting dark,
866
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
There was nobody there,
but it was getting dark,
867
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,800
There was nobody there,
but it was getting dark,
868
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,840
and obviously,
he'd been out for several hours.
869
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560
and obviously,
he'd been out for several hours.
870
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,600
He got up and got
the hell out of there and went home.
871
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,640
He got up and got
the hell out of there and went home.
872
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:44,880
He got up and got
the hell out of there and went home.
873
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,040
The police did investigate.
874
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,080
They did find
all these prescription drugs
875
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,120
They did find
all these prescription drugs
876
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,920
They did find
all these prescription drugs
877
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,960
in his possession, but
they never did anything about it.
878
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
in his possession, but
they never did anything about it.
879
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:58,320
in his possession, but
they never did anything about it.
880
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,360
He wasn't charged,
and Fancher got his first taste
881
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,400
He wasn't charged,
and Fancher got his first taste
882
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,280
He wasn't charged,
and Fancher got his first taste
883
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,320
of Southern California justice
by doing the right thing
884
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,360
of Southern California justice
by doing the right thing
885
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:08,920
of Southern California justice
by doing the right thing
886
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,960
and telling his parents
and then seeing nothing happen as
887
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,400
and telling his parents
and then seeing nothing happen as
888
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,440
a direct result of his shining
a light on this... pervert.
889
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,480
a direct result of his shining
a light on this... pervert.
890
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,520
a direct result of his shining
a light on this... pervert.
891
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,800
Crotwell was the case wherein,
892
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,800
Crotwell was the case wherein,
893
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840
ultimately,
two of Long Beach's finest
894
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,880
ultimately,
two of Long Beach's finest
895
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,160
ultimately,
two of Long Beach's finest
896
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,200
had enough circumstantial evidence
897
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,640
had enough circumstantial evidence
898
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,680
in terms of Kraft
having been spotted
899
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,480
in terms of Kraft
having been spotted
900
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,520
in the vicinity of the body,
not the head, but the body.
901
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,560
in the vicinity of the body,
not the head, but the body.
902
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:42,840
in the vicinity of the body,
not the head, but the body.
903
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160
He had been seen leaving
the parking lot at Ripples
904
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,880
He had been seen leaving
the parking lot at Ripples
905
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,920
in his car that evening.
906
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800
in his car that evening.
907
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,840
It ultimately brought
two homicide detectives
908
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,880
It ultimately brought
two homicide detectives
909
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,240
to his front door,
910
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,280
and they wanted him to come down
to headquarters and...
911
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,560
and they wanted him to come down
to headquarters and...
912
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,080
..submit to questioning.
913
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,880
..submit to questioning.
914
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,920
And Kraft did so.
915
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,280
And Kraft did so.
916
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,320
He went
to the Long Beach Police Department,
917
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,120
He went
to the Long Beach Police Department,
918
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160
went into the classic
little interrogation room
919
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,200
went into the classic
little interrogation room
920
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:14,520
went into the classic
little interrogation room
921
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560
with these two cops,
who were recording the whole thing.
922
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,360
with these two cops,
who were recording the whole thing.
923
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,520
He managed,
over the period of an hour or so,
924
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,560
He managed,
over the period of an hour or so,
925
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:22,880
He managed,
over the period of an hour or so,
926
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920
to dance around
most of their pointed questions
927
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,360
to dance around
most of their pointed questions
928
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400
and point out
that he had car trouble
929
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,440
and point out
that he had car trouble
930
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:29,760
and point out
that he had car trouble
931
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,800
and he needed help
from his roommate
932
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,840
and he needed help
from his roommate
933
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880
and he...
he walked away from his car to...
934
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920
and he...
he walked away from his car to...
935
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,680
and he...
he walked away from his car to...
936
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720
cos it had gotten stuck in the sand.
937
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,000
cos it had gotten stuck in the sand.
938
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040
And that was all just coincidental
that he happened to be around
939
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080
And that was all just coincidental
that he happened to be around
940
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,400
And that was all just coincidental
that he happened to be around
941
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440
when whoever it was
that killed this poor unfortunate
942
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,280
when whoever it was
that killed this poor unfortunate
943
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,320
had left the body just...
a few yards away.
944
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,360
had left the body just...
a few yards away.
945
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:54,840
had left the body just...
a few yards away.
946
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,480
You would think that the cops
would follow up on that.
947
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,520
You would think that the cops
would follow up on that.
948
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,400
You would think that the cops
would follow up on that.
949
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,000
But there's no evidence
950
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,040
that the cops did anything further
on that.
951
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,360
that the cops did anything further
on that.
952
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400
They just made
the judgment call that,
953
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,720
They just made
the judgment call that,
954
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,760
yeah, he was
this friendly computer techie
955
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,320
yeah, he was
this friendly computer techie
956
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,360
{\an8}and he just happened to be
in the proximity
957
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:14,680
{\an8}and he just happened to be
in the proximity
958
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,720
{\an8}of this... Freeway Killer victim.
959
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760
{\an8}of this... Freeway Killer victim.
960
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,520
{\an8}of this... Freeway Killer victim.
961
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,560
It was yet another example
962
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:22,840
It was yet another example
963
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880
of Randy Kraft
literally getting away with murder.
964
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,840
of Randy Kraft
literally getting away with murder.
965
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,120
SIREN WAILS
966
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,320
SIREN WAILS
967
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,360
One of the things
that highlighted Randy Kraft
968
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:35,720
One of the things
that highlighted Randy Kraft
969
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,360
was he was known
as the Scorecard Killer.
970
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
And during his search of that Toyota
after his arrest,
971
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,440
And during his search of that Toyota
after his arrest,
972
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:41,720
And during his search of that Toyota
after his arrest,
973
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,760
they found what they believed to be
974
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,040
they found what they believed to be
975
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080
an encrypted list
of potential victims.
976
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,400
an encrypted list
of potential victims.
977
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,440
The scorecard,
which was a sheet of notebook paper
978
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,480
The scorecard,
which was a sheet of notebook paper
979
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,280
The scorecard,
which was a sheet of notebook paper
980
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,320
that looked like
it might have been bloodstained,
981
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:53,720
that looked like
it might have been bloodstained,
982
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,760
some of them
were relatively obvious,
983
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,560
some of them
were relatively obvious,
984
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
like Edward Daniel Moore,
because it was "EDM".
985
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,640
like Edward Daniel Moore,
because it was "EDM".
986
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,120
like Edward Daniel Moore,
because it was "EDM".
987
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,160
That was easy for law enforcement
to connect to a body.
988
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,680
That was easy for law enforcement
to connect to a body.
989
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,320
Crotwell was equated
with the term "parking lot".
990
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Crotwell was equated
with the term "parking lot".
991
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
They were memory triggers
992
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,240
to relive the experience
of each murder.
993
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280
to relive the experience
of each murder.
994
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,840
to relive the experience
of each murder.
995
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320
{\an8}Kraft took impeccable notes.
996
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,800
{\an8}Kraft took impeccable notes.
997
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,840
{\an8}It was almost like a...
like a highway of what he did.
998
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,240
{\an8}It was almost like a...
like a highway of what he did.
999
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480
But you go down that list,
and there are a lot of entries
1000
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,840
But you go down that list,
and there are a lot of entries
1001
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,880
that are easily connected
to murder victims,
1002
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,920
that are easily connected
to murder victims,
1003
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,240
that are easily connected
to murder victims,
1004
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,280
but there are a good many
that remain
1005
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,560
but there are a good many
that remain
1006
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,520
anybody's guess to this day.
1007
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840
In 2016, I was assigned
1008
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,760
In 2016, I was assigned
1009
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,800
to the Orange County Cold Case
Homicide Task Force,
1010
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,320
to the Orange County Cold Case
Homicide Task Force,
1011
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,360
which, at that time,
was an entity that was run
1012
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,240
which, at that time,
was an entity that was run
1013
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,280
by the District Attorney's Office.
1014
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:56,520
by the District Attorney's Office.
1015
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
And it was a multi-agency entity
1016
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,400
And it was a multi-agency entity
1017
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440
that worked primarily
on solving cold cases.
1018
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,280
that worked primarily
on solving cold cases.
1019
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,320
One of the individuals on that list
1020
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,800
One of the individuals on that list
1021
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,840
was a John Doe for our agency
from 1974.
1022
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,880
was a John Doe for our agency
from 1974.
1023
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,120
was a John Doe for our agency
from 1974.
1024
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,080
The thing about that individual
is that his naked body
1025
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,120
The thing about that individual
is that his naked body
1026
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,400
The thing about that individual
is that his naked body
1027
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
was tossed off a fire break,
1028
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,280
was tossed off a fire break,
1029
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320
which would have been rural
southern Orange County back in 1974,
1030
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360
which would have been rural
southern Orange County back in 1974,
1031
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,680
which would have been rural
southern Orange County back in 1974,
1032
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,720
and that there were tyre tracks
along the side of this fire break.
1033
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,800
and that there were tyre tracks
along the side of this fire break.
1034
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,400
And by all indications,
1035
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,440
it looked like this person
had been dumped off the freeway.
1036
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:29,920
it looked like this person
had been dumped off the freeway.
1037
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
However, at that time, in 1974,
1038
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,720
However, at that time, in 1974,
1039
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760
his death was ruled accidental
1040
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,040
his death was ruled accidental
1041
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080
due to alcohol
and diazepam intoxication.
1042
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,960
due to alcohol
and diazepam intoxication.
1043
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
It had only been five or six days,
so unfortunately, it was...
1044
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,040
It had only been five or six days,
so unfortunately, it was...
1045
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,080
It had only been five or six days,
so unfortunately, it was...
1046
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,680
It had only been five or six days,
so unfortunately, it was...
1047
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720
difficult to determine
whether he had been strangled or not
1048
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,120
difficult to determine
whether he had been strangled or not
1049
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,160
just based on the condition
of the...
1050
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,880
just based on the condition
of the...
1051
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,920
for lack of a better term,
the flesh.
1052
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,240
for lack of a better term,
the flesh.
1053
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,280
But they were still able to do
toxicological examination.
1054
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,240
But they were still able to do
toxicological examination.
1055
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280
So fast-forward to 1983,
and all these bodies
1056
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,360
So fast-forward to 1983,
and all these bodies
1057
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
are coming through Orange County
and jurisdictions
1058
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,240
are coming through Orange County
and jurisdictions
1059
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280
with that same characteristic.
1060
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,240
with that same characteristic.
1061
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
They reopened that investigation
to say,
1062
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,880
They reopened that investigation
to say,
1063
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,920
"Hey, this victim may be a victim
of Randy Kraft."
1064
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,360
"Hey, this victim may be a victim
of Randy Kraft."
1065
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,320
My work in that detail,
1066
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,280
My work in that detail,
1067
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,320
I learned how to do
investigative genetic genealogy,
1068
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,400
I learned how to do
investigative genetic genealogy,
1069
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440
which is using familial DNA
to identify these individuals.
1070
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,560
which is using familial DNA
to identify these individuals.
1071
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240
So, in late 2022,
we submitted a forensic specimen
1072
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,280
So, in late 2022,
we submitted a forensic specimen
1073
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,240
So, in late 2022,
we submitted a forensic specimen
1074
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280
for this 1974 John Doe
to a private lab
1075
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,400
for this 1974 John Doe
to a private lab
1076
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,440
to do DNA processing
in hopes of getting him identified.
1077
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,480
to do DNA processing
in hopes of getting him identified.
1078
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,520
And over the course
of the next ten months,
1079
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:42,840
And over the course
of the next ten months,
1080
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,880
we successfully identified him
as Michael Schlicht.
1081
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,040
we successfully identified him
as Michael Schlicht.
1082
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,920
His mom was still alive,
1083
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,200
His mom was still alive,
1084
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240
so we went out and interviewed Mom
and a sister.
1085
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,040
so we went out and interviewed Mom
and a sister.
1086
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080
And the last they'd ever heard
from Michael
1087
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,360
And the last they'd ever heard
from Michael
1088
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,400
was he was hitchhiking to California
from Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
1089
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440
was he was hitchhiking to California
from Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
1090
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,640
was he was hitchhiking to California
from Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
1091
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,680
And coincidentally, on Kraft's
scorecard is an entry for "Iowa".
1092
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,720
And coincidentally, on Kraft's
scorecard is an entry for "Iowa".
1093
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,480
And coincidentally, on Kraft's
scorecard is an entry for "Iowa".
1094
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,160
{\an8}Meanwhile, they impound the car.
1095
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,200
{\an8}They find all sorts
of forensic evidence within the car.
1096
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:23,920
{\an8}They find all sorts
of forensic evidence within the car.
1097
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,960
{\an8}And it was a short time after that
that they started putting together
1098
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,640
{\an8}And it was a short time after that
that they started putting together
1099
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,680
{\an8}all the evidence against this guy,
1100
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:30,160
{\an8}all the evidence against this guy,
1101
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,200
and they found literally a drawer
full of pictures
1102
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:33,760
and they found literally a drawer
full of pictures
1103
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,800
of men looking like they were asleep
in an apartment somewhere,
1104
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,840
of men looking like they were asleep
in an apartment somewhere,
1105
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,200
of men looking like they were asleep
in an apartment somewhere,
1106
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,280
and they were all dead.
1107
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,480
He had photographed them after
he had drugged them and killed them.
1108
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,240
He had photographed them after
he had drugged them and killed them.
1109
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,400
He would dismember bodies.
1110
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,440
They found jars of testicles
for him, and the pictures.
1111
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,480
They found jars of testicles
for him, and the pictures.
1112
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:51,720
They found jars of testicles
for him, and the pictures.
1113
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600
They realise he is
the last of the Freeway Killers.
1114
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,640
They realise he is
the last of the Freeway Killers.
1115
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,680
They realise he is
the last of the Freeway Killers.
1116
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680
REPORTER:
After some 350 personal interviews
1117
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:06,280
REPORTER:
After some 350 personal interviews
1118
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,320
with people who knew Randy Kraft
and several searches
1119
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:08,640
with people who knew Randy Kraft
and several searches
1120
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680
of Kraft's car
and Long Beach residents,
1121
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:11,000
of Kraft's car
and Long Beach residents,
1122
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,880
Orange County Sheriff
Brad Gates says
1123
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,920
he now has a wealth of information
on the man accused
1124
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,240
he now has a wealth of information
on the man accused
1125
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,280
in the strangulation deaths
of six young men
1126
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,960
in the strangulation deaths
of six young men
1127
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
and now a suspect
in at least ten more murders.
1128
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,400
and now a suspect
in at least ten more murders.
1129
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Kraft has already been accused
of killing Geoffrey Nelson,
1130
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,440
Kraft has already been accused
of killing Geoffrey Nelson,
1131
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,480
Wyatt Loggins, Rodger DeVaul Jr,
1132
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,280
Wyatt Loggins, Rodger DeVaul Jr,
1133
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,320
Mark Hall,
Terry Gambrel and Eric Church.
1134
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Mark Hall,
Terry Gambrel and Eric Church.
1135
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,960
Mark Hall,
Terry Gambrel and Eric Church.
1136
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Then there's 25-year-old
Mikeal Laine.
1137
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,040
His picture was found
at Kraft's residence,
1138
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,360
His picture was found
at Kraft's residence,
1139
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,400
but it's unknown if he's alive
or dead,
1140
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:38,720
but it's unknown if he's alive
or dead,
1141
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,760
the same for these men,
all believed to be marines.
1142
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,720
the same for these men,
all believed to be marines.
1143
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,760
Meantime, Randy Kraft,
who remains in jail without bail,
1144
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,840
Meantime, Randy Kraft,
who remains in jail without bail,
1145
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,640
is awaiting his preliminary hearing.
1146
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680
That's scheduled to start
here in Orange County on Monday.
1147
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:50,440
That's scheduled to start
here in Orange County on Monday.
1148
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,560
{\an8}The trial, which, at the time,
1149
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,600
{\an8}was deemed to have been the longest
in Orange County history,
1150
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,640
{\an8}was deemed to have been the longest
in Orange County history,
1151
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,320
{\an8}was deemed to have been the longest
in Orange County history,
1152
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,360
went on for weeks and weeks.
1153
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400
went on for weeks and weeks.
1154
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:06,800
went on for weeks and weeks.
1155
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,840
He never for a second
let down the notion
1156
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,880
He never for a second
let down the notion
1157
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,200
He never for a second
let down the notion
1158
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,240
that he'd ever engaged
in any sort of... mischief.
1159
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,280
that he'd ever engaged
in any sort of... mischief.
1160
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,160
that he'd ever engaged
in any sort of... mischief.
1161
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,200
He was an upstanding citizen.
1162
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,200
He was an upstanding citizen.
1163
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,240
He's purported to have viewed
all of this
1164
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,680
He's purported to have viewed
all of this
1165
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,720
as being a persecution
because he was gay...
1166
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,680
as being a persecution
because he was gay...
1167
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,800
..even though the evidence
is more than overwhelming.
1168
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,520
..even though the evidence
is more than overwhelming.
1169
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,400
In court, he seemed like
he was bored with the whole thing.
1170
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,440
In court, he seemed like
he was bored with the whole thing.
1171
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:37,760
In court, he seemed like
he was bored with the whole thing.
1172
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,800
Cuts, severs off
Geoffrey's testicles and his penis.
1173
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,840
Cuts, severs off
Geoffrey's testicles and his penis.
1174
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,240
Cuts, severs off
Geoffrey's testicles and his penis.
1175
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,280
And when he's through with
Geoffrey's body,
1176
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,320
And when he's through with
Geoffrey's body,
1177
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:49,600
And when he's through with
Geoffrey's body,
1178
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,200
he discards it out of his car.
1179
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Kraft had his excuses.
1180
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,600
Kraft had his excuses.
1181
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640
It came out later,
1182
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,160
It came out later,
1183
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
after the investigation
and during the trial,
1184
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:08,360
after the investigation
and during the trial,
1185
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,400
that Kraft broke away
from his family
1186
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,640
that Kraft broke away
from his family
1187
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,680
long enough to go out,
find Mark Hall,
1188
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:15,160
long enough to go out,
find Mark Hall,
1189
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
maim him, drug him, kill him
1190
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:17,920
maim him, drug him, kill him
1191
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
and leave his body up in the hills
overlooking Lake Elsinore.
1192
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,720
and leave his body up in the hills
overlooking Lake Elsinore.
1193
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,440
He maintained that he was
with his family for New Year's,
1194
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
He maintained that he was
with his family for New Year's,
1195
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520
He maintained that he was
with his family for New Year's,
1196
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:29,840
He maintained that he was
with his family for New Year's,
1197
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,880
that they watched
the Rose Parade together.
1198
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,040
that they watched
the Rose Parade together.
1199
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,080
And, I mean,
there was a chunk of time
1200
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960
And, I mean,
there was a chunk of time
1201
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000
in the middle of the night
when he was missing,
1202
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,880
in the middle of the night
when he was missing,
1203
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,920
but no-one seemed to pay
much attention to it.
1204
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,520
but no-one seemed to pay
much attention to it.
1205
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Randy was... weird that way.
1206
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Randy was... weird that way.
1207
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,040
He would wander off
and show up later, fresh as a daisy,
1208
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,080
He would wander off
and show up later, fresh as a daisy,
1209
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,720
He would wander off
and show up later, fresh as a daisy,
1210
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,760
and his family
suspected nothing, ever.
1211
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,800
and his family
suspected nothing, ever.
1212
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,080
and his family
suspected nothing, ever.
1213
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,040
REPORTER:Sixteen times today,
1214
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080
the jury foreman read out
the verdict for Randy Kraft.
1215
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,080
the jury foreman read out
the verdict for Randy Kraft.
1216
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,120
{\an8}We want to see justice done.
1217
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,600
{\an8}We want to see justice done.
1218
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,640
{\an8}Our son will not be brought back.
1219
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:12,840
{\an8}Our son will not be brought back.
1220
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,200
{\an8}We have to represent our boy.
1221
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:19,400
{\an8}We have to represent our boy.
1222
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960
{\an8}He was...
He can't be here, but we can.
1223
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,760
{\an8}He was...
He can't be here, but we can.
1224
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,800
REPORTER:Mrs Barbara Loggins
has waited for nearly nine years
1225
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,640
REPORTER:Mrs Barbara Loggins
has waited for nearly nine years
1226
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
to see the man who killed
her son, Wyatt, convicted.
1227
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:30,320
to see the man who killed
her son, Wyatt, convicted.
1228
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,360
That wait ended late this morning.
1229
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:32,640
That wait ended late this morning.
1230
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,680
We, the jury, find the defendant,
Randy Steven Kraft,
1231
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,520
We, the jury, find the defendant,
Randy Steven Kraft,
1232
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,560
guilty of the crime of felony murder
in the first degree,
1233
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,920
guilty of the crime of felony murder
in the first degree,
1234
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,480
Robert Wyatt Loggins.
1235
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,840
Kraft only sighed when
the first guilty verdict was read.
1236
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Kraft only sighed when
the first guilty verdict was read.
1237
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,560
45 minutes later, it was all over.
1238
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,400
45 minutes later, it was all over.
1239
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,440
Each time, it was guilty
of murder in the first degree.
1240
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Each time, it was guilty
of murder in the first degree.
1241
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120
He is suspected in 21 other murders
in California, Oregon and Michigan.
1242
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160
He is suspected in 21 other murders
in California, Oregon and Michigan.
1243
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,160
He is suspected in 21 other murders
in California, Oregon and Michigan.
1244
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200
He could get life with no parole
or the gas chamber.
1245
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,000
He could get life with no parole
or the gas chamber.
1246
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
{\an8}His trial, which began in '88,
1247
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,680
{\an8}His trial, which began in '88,
1248
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,720
{\an8}ended in '89 with his sentencing
to... the gas chamber.
1249
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,760
{\an8}ended in '89 with his sentencing
to... the gas chamber.
1250
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,800
{\an8}ended in '89 with his sentencing
to... the gas chamber.
1251
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,400
{\an8}ended in '89 with his sentencing
to... the gas chamber.
1252
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,200
After it was all over,
1253
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,240
after all three Freeway Killers
were prosecuted,
1254
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,640
after all three Freeway Killers
were prosecuted,
1255
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,800
we looked back on it.
1256
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,840
Why did this happen
in Southern California,
1257
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Why did this happen
in Southern California,
1258
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,560
especially Los Angeles?
1259
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:28,840
especially Los Angeles?
1260
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,880
What made this kind of a magnet
that attracted these misfits
1261
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,920
What made this kind of a magnet
that attracted these misfits
1262
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,720
What made this kind of a magnet
that attracted these misfits
1263
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,760
where they wanted to find young men
1264
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,680
where they wanted to find young men
1265
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,720
and have sexual relations with them
and kill them?
1266
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,080
and have sexual relations with them
and kill them?
1267
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,840
That is the most interesting thing
about these killers,
1268
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
That is the most interesting thing
about these killers,
1269
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,200
That is the most interesting thing
about these killers,
1270
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,240
is that they were very good
at mimicking being normal...
1271
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,280
is that they were very good
at mimicking being normal...
1272
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,200
is that they were very good
at mimicking being normal...
1273
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,240
because they had to get these people
in their clutches.
1274
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,800
because they had to get these people
in their clutches.
1275
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,840
They had to win them over
to get them in the van,
1276
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:00,720
They had to win them over
to get them in the van,
1277
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,960
to get them in the car,
1278
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
to get them to come back
to their houses.
1279
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,320
to get them to come back
to their houses.
1280
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,360
These men were very good
at portraying
1281
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,880
These men were very good
at portraying
1282
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,920
being average, everyday,
normal people.
1283
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,960
being average, everyday,
normal people.
1284
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
It's just amazing that
these three serial killers operated
1285
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
It's just amazing that
these three serial killers operated
1286
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,080
It's just amazing that
these three serial killers operated
1287
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,400
It's just amazing that
these three serial killers operated
1288
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,440
at the same time,
in the same geography,
1289
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,040
at the same time,
in the same geography,
1290
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,880
three serial killers
1291
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,920
who were each different
yet had the same motive -
1292
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
who were each different
yet had the same motive -
1293
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,680
who were each different
yet had the same motive -
1294
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:29,720
to inflict pain and suffering
and death for their own pleasures.
1295
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,760
to inflict pain and suffering
and death for their own pleasures.
1296
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,800
to inflict pain and suffering
and death for their own pleasures.
1297
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,480
to inflict pain and suffering
and death for their own pleasures.
1298
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,880
These guys, they would talk
about murdering people
1299
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,200
These guys, they would talk
about murdering people
1300
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,240
like you and I would talk
about where we were going to lunch.
1301
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,560
like you and I would talk
about where we were going to lunch.
1302
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,600
That's a sociopath.
They have no remorse.
1303
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:43,920
That's a sociopath.
They have no remorse.
1304
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,960
They have no feelings
or consideration for anybody.
1305
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,520
They have no feelings
or consideration for anybody.
1306
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560
It was all
about sexual gratification.
1307
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:48,800
It was all
about sexual gratification.
1308
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,240
But why did it take us so long
to catch them?
1309
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,280
That's always a question
an investigator will ask himself,
1310
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,320
That's always a question
an investigator will ask himself,
1311
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:58,840
That's always a question
an investigator will ask himself,
1312
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,400
especially afterwards.
1313
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,440
And especially
when you're dealing with youth,
1314
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:02,920
And especially
when you're dealing with youth,
1315
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
you know, it's just... it's harder.
1316
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,800
you know, it's just... it's harder.
1317
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,840
Those things...
And they stay with police officers.
1318
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Those things...
And they stay with police officers.
1319
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,640
The homicide investigators
1320
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:11,920
The homicide investigators
1321
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,960
that worked the Freeway Killer case
and everything,
1322
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,480
that worked the Freeway Killer case
and everything,
1323
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,520
they still think about it
for a long time afterwards.
1324
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,600
they still think about it
for a long time afterwards.
1325
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,080
You don't forget
those kind of things.
1326
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,280
It was a golden age
for serial killers,
1327
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,320
It was a golden age
for serial killers,
1328
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,600
It was a golden age
for serial killers,
1329
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,000
especially freeway killers.
1330
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,040
It happened.
It was very unfortunate.
1331
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:29,920
It happened.
It was very unfortunate.
1332
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
And many, many, many young lives
were lost because of that.
1333
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,880
And many, many, many young lives
were lost because of that.
1334
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,760
I don't think the world has seen
the last serial killer yet.
1335
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800
I don't think the world has seen
the last serial killer yet.
1336
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,080
I don't think the world has seen
the last serial killer yet.
1337
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,320
I'm not sure we ever will.
1338
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,160
What happened
at the height of these murders,
1339
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,040
What happened
at the height of these murders,
1340
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,080
this changed the way
a lot of kids lived
1341
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,160
this changed the way
a lot of kids lived
1342
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,200
because you don't see hitchhikers
any more.
1343
00:41:59,240 --> 00:41:59,520
because you don't see hitchhikers
any more.
1344
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,480
I mean, really,
if you come around California,
1345
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,840
you can drive anywhere in LA,
1346
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,880
you don't see people hitchhiking
any more.
1347
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,200
you don't see people hitchhiking
any more.
1348
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,240
And the carefree days of that -
long gone.
1349
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,000
And the carefree days of that -
long gone.
1350
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,040
{\an8}And I think Kraft and Bonin
had a lot to do with that.
1351
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,560
{\an8}And I think Kraft and Bonin
had a lot to do with that.
1352
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,600
It changed everything.
It really, really did.
1353
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,760
If you add up all of the murders
to which they confessed,
1354
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,200
If you add up all of the murders
to which they confessed,
1355
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,240
were convicted of, suspected of,
it comes to something like 100.
1356
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,640
were convicted of, suspected of,
it comes to something like 100.
1357
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680
{\an8}What a horrible score to think that,
for that period of time,
1358
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,440
{\an8}What a horrible score to think that,
for that period of time,
1359
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,480
{\an8}these men were able to carry out
these crimes
1360
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,080
{\an8}these men were able to carry out
these crimes
1361
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120
as butchers
across all of Los Angeles.
1362
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,400
as butchers
across all of Los Angeles.