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Innocent!

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Innocent! Innocent!

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{\an5}'Michael Jackson is back in court
for what could be the most
crucial phase'

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of his trial on child abuse charges.

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A key prosecution witness
is expected to testify today.

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We needed to put Gavin's mother
on the witness stand.

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{\an8}Janet was intelligent,

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not well educated, but intelligent,

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and had a very good memory
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{\an8}This is someone who was a guest
at Michael Jackson's ranch

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during the period of time that he
engaged in the alleged molestations,

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and they were worried about her.

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She was capable of blowing a whistle

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in a way that could be very harmful
for them.

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'Gavin's mother is a key witness,
and some observers believe

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'the outcome of this trial
could hinge on her testimony.'

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{\an8}Throughout the trial
I had to give Michael Jackson

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the benefit of the doubt.

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That's what a defendant
has a right to.

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Not guilty until proven guilty.

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But I thought,
when Janet Arvizo got on the stand,

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she would be convincing enough
to make things look bad

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for Michael Jackson.

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I wanted the jury to know
that when Janet was in Neverland,

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she was very distrusting
of what was going on.

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They were continuously trying
to separate her from the children.

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She told the jury
that she's relegated

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to one of the guest cottages
on the property.

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Her sons are in the house,
in his room.

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The front door is locked.

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So her kids are no longer with her
and she doesn't have access to them.

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And you couldn't just walk
into his bedroom unannounced.

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There's a combination lock
in the access to the bedroom suite.

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And then you walk down a hallway,

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and the hallway had chimes in it
that were activated

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by a motion detector.
So he would hear chimes going off

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if somebody was walking
down the hallway.

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Do you think Janet knew that her son
was being molested?

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I asked her that many times.

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She certainly had concerns.

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She reached the point
where she knew she just

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had to get out of there, and she had
to get her kids out of there.

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But she just wasn't
allowed to leave.

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To keep her and the kids
on Neverland, they were telling her,

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there are killers
who want to do harm to her children,

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you need to stay here.

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Very quiet. Thank you.

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Janet told the jury she was
compelled to do this video

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by Michael Jackson's people,
because they knew

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that the Bashir documentary
was a problem for him.

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So they had the whole family sitting
in chairs talking about

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how wonderful Michael Jackson was,

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but it was a tape
that they did deliberately

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to be able to use in the contingency
of this happening,

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where there was an arrest,
where there was a prosecution.

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My responsibility of a mother
is to make sure that my children

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are in safe...

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...safety.

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They were controlling her
and where she went,

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and what she did,
and who she talked to.

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You know, they were desperate
to keep this under the carpet.

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The stories by these accusers
were extraordinarily convincing.

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I'm sorry, I can't comment.

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I'm sorry, I can't comment.

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{\an8}Was she kidnapped? Absolutely not.

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Most false fabrication
you ever heard in your life.

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Most of the jurors were really
taken aback by what Janet said

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on the witness stand.

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But I think they were
not totally convinced

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that the allegation was true.

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{\an8}None of it computed,
none of it made sense to me.

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My family's visit to Neverland
coincided with the Arvizo family.

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We said hello to them
and we got to know them

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and their kids seemed like,
really friendly.

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Gavin, thank God, seemed healthy,
which was a really good thing.

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And I spoke to his mother
and she explained to me the journey

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they had been on.

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I felt that they were very happy
to be at Neverland.

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Gavin was completely normal
and there was no weirdness

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with his family,
so none of this stuff makes sense.

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I am subpoenaed by the prosecution

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to testify about
what I saw at Neverland.

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'His name is Rudy Provencio.

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{\an8}'He reportedly has kept diaries
and logs about some of the weirdness

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'and things that he thought
wasn't quite right.'

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I was fearful and anxious,

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but I didn't see anything wrong
with just telling

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the truth of what I know,
especially when a child

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might have been violated
in some way.

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It's a person's responsibility.

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I told the jury I had overheard
a conversation

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that is being told to the mother

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that these killers could be out
there to get you, and you have

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to be careful, you need protection.

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It was obvious to me
that they were worried

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that the Avrizos were going to talk
and make the problem worse

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for Michael.

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One of the witnesses that I remember
quite clearly was Rudy Provencio.

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Um, I totally believed him.

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Thought he was telling the truth
about his feelings,

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about the Arvizos, and that they
were being held at the ranch.

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Rudy was a compelling witness.

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And not only that, we found a tape
where they recorded the call,

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and they told her there are killers

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who are out there
who want to do harm.

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'The DA revealed today
that they actually corroborate

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'some of the points she claimed.
So a lot of the stories

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'she tells seems to be true.'

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I told Michael, I said, "Michael,
if you had done this,

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"it makes you a freakazoid.

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"It makes you horrible."

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He says, "I know, Brian."

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Michael said, "Brian,
I didn't do those things.

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"Never. Never. Brian,
show them it's not true.

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"Tell them. Tell the world."

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I told Michael I would overturn
every stone, and I did.

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Michael Jackson's defence team
got a hold of every record

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dealing with the entire family.

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Not just Gavin, but everyone.

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So, any job application that their
mother had ever applied for,

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they were able
to get their hands on it.

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Medical records,
they got their hands on.

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Gavin, of course, had been horribly
sick and undergone surgery.

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They had all of his medical records
as well.

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They had the gynaecological
records of his sister,

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who at the time was 15 years old.

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There was no piece of paper
that they ever generated

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that they weren't
going to get their hands on.

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There was nothing in their lifetime

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that they weren't going
to know about.

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The mother was getting welfare

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from the Los Angeles County
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When you apply for welfare,

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you must do a full
welfare application.

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And I sat in my office
looking at this, going,

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"Oh, my, oh, my, oh, my, oh, my!"

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Talk about a gold mine.

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Michael Jackson's defence
team gets its first chance today

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to cross-examine the mother
of the pop star's main accuser.

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The documents showed
repeated continuous falsity,

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concealing the money that Michael
spent taking him to day spa,

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getting him bikini wax,
buying this and paying that,

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and, and, and luxury dinners.

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They concealed it all.

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They lied to welfare.

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And you won't believe
what they did before.

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'The jury heard, she made previous
accusations of sexual assault,

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{\an8}'claiming security guards
at this JCPenney store...'

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{\an8}'..and that a Tower Records
security guard...'

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The family had claimed that they
were molested by a security guard

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at JCPenney.

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The guard just said, "Oh,
you got to be kidding."

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Well, JCPenney's parted
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and all of this was concealed
from welfare.

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They're just defrauding everybody
they can defraud.

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And when Michael Jackson
brought this family into his fold,

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this was a moment of opportunity

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that they took to bring down

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the greatest, biggest superstar
in the world.

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This was all a scam.

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{\an8}The defence was painting
the accuser's family as grifters,

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{\an8}as people who went after celebrities
for money.

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What I've learned covering trials
is that the best lawyers

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are good storytellers,
and if they tell a story

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that the jury can picture
and absorb and go,

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"Aha, I get that",
that is damning.

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They were trying to show that she
was just looking for a payday.

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I knew it wasn't true, but this
was what Michael Jackson would do.

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Discredit the mothers
of these children.

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Even as Michael Jackson,
through the course of the trial,

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was becoming frail and more gaunt
and thinner,

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it looked like the chances
of him walking away a free man

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were increasing with every
disastrous prosecution witness.

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'Next month, Wade Robson
leaves his home town of Brisbane

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'for Los Angeles, where he'll live

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'with the reclusive
millionaire entertainer.'

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What's the thing you most want
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- Um, stay with Michael forever.
- Really? All right.

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I understood the importance of being
able to locate other victims.

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And, of course, um, Wade Robson
was at the top of the list,

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because we knew that he had been
involved with Michael Jackson

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for years.

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We were absolutely convinced
that he was a victim,

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even though he had not come forward
and disclosed it.

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Wade Robson was a successful
choreographer

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and Jackson was instrumental
in getting his career going.

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Thank you, Britney.

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We reached out to him hoping that
he would testify and he said no.

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There was another young boy
from Australia, Brett Barnes,

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who travelled with him
throughout Europe

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and South America over a year.

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But he wouldn't testify.

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Jimmy Safechuck,
we believed he was a victim,

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but he wouldn't come forward either.

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So we needed the cooperation
of all of them

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and we had the cooperation
of none of them.

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But, you know, I understand.

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I handled a number of child molest
cases over the years.

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It's a tough thing
for kids to come forward

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and publicly talk about having
been victim of sex crime

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and they disclose
when they disclose.

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And there's nothing we can do
to speed up that process.

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- Michael innocent.
- Michael innocent.

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We also understood
that it's not easy

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being an accuser of Michael Jackson.

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It's not easy dealing with his fans.

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There are multitudes of them
and they can be vicious.

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I was getting death threats
on a regular basis saying,

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"I know where you live.
I know where your children are.

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"I know your wife's name.
I'm going to kill all of them."

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I mean, it was horrible.

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Michael innocent,
Michael innocent.

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There was that absurdity.

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{\an8}And almost like
a cult-like following.

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People who loved Michael Jackson,
they defended him to the teeth.

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You know, they referred to him
more like a god.

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{\an1}SCREAMING

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He trained his fans
to be his soldiers.

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There's no question.

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{\an8}His behaviour, this idea
that he was such a victim

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and he needed this protection.

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His fans bought it hook,
line and sinker.

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And boy, oh, boy,
did they ever come to his defence.

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It's been
a white knuckle ride,

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but now, 43 days after it started,
the prosecution has rested its case.

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And it's time now
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to tell his side of the story.

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The prosecution had said
that Wade Robson

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was molested by Michael Jackson.

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I had called Wade.

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He was in Australia.

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"Wade, you've got
to come and testify."

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"Bryan, I have told
everybody it's not true.

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"I wasn't molested. I'm not coming.

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"No, I'm not. I'm not setting foot
anywhere near this."

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I must have called him
at least six times.

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Finally, he says,
"You're a persistent man."

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I say, "Yes, I am, Wade."

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The first witness
for the defence was Wade Robson.

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It's interesting
because Wade Robson has said

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that he declined and then
was subpoenaed by the defence.

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But when he did take the stand,
he was a very strong witness.

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Wade Robson told jurors
he first met Jackson at age five

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and shared a bed with him more
than 20 times until he was 14.

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He got up in that courtroom
and he said,

246
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"Michael Jackson never molested me.

247
00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,680
"Michael Jackson never
put his hands any place

248
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"that they weren't supposed to be.

249
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"Michael Jackson never harmed me.

250
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"Michael Jackson did not commit
child molestation with me."

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Uncanny testimony.

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Fabulous.

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That was a problem for us

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because we were really hammering
on the fact that he was a victim

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and he's up there saying, "I'm not.
I'm telling you, it didn't happen."

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The second
defence witness, Brett Barnes,

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said the same thing, adding,

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"I can tell you that if he had,
I wouldn't be here."

259
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Did they do a good job?

260
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Oh, my. You betcha.

261
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The defence has now
presented its witness list

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and there are some big
Hollywood heavy hitters on there.

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When this started,

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a lot of people felt
that this was an open and shut case,

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But it became a soap opera,
as they say,

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but really a soap opera on steroids.

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00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,240
The prosecution was claiming
that Michael's employee

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saw Michael put his hands
up Macaulay Culkin's pants

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and play with his privates.

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OK. Well, what does Mac say?

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What does Macaulay Culkin say?

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One of the most
anticipated witnesses

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00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,840
in the Michael Jackson case
took the stand today.

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Macaulay Culkin denied it

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and to this day denies that he
was molested by Michael Jackson.

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You know, I remember
cross-examining Macaulay Culkin

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and he's an actor, you know,

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and so everything
has a certain flair to it.

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His appearance, his fame,
his celebrity.

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He was just an extraordinarily
effective witness.

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We live in a celebrity
driven society,

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and people are really attracted
to celebrities.

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They're mesmerised by them.

284
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So that certainly happened
at the trial

285
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,120
and I'm sure the jury
was impacted too.

286
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,600
During the trial, Gavin's mind
was completely scrambled.

287
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,920
It was heartbreaking.

288
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They were just stuck in this
apartment for months and months.

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There was a school...

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..out the window

291
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and they'd just look
at the kids going.

292
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They just wanted to be in school.

293
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,800
This was... This was really
tough on everybody.

294
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,080
Gavin was by himself in that trial.

295
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He was literally by himself.

296
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And it made...

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It was very burdensome for him.

298
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It was very challenging.

299
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,560
But he was courageous
and he never told us,

300
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,120
"I'm not going to do it.
I can't do it.

301
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,400
This is just ruining my life."

302
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,200
But he understood
the importance of it.

303
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,640
At 15, he understood
his obligation to do it.

304
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,640
The trial had raised a lot
of doubts, in my mind anyway.

305
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,920
So I wanted to talk to Gavin.

306
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,760
I wanted to, you know,
get a chance to talk to him myself.

307
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,800
You know, obviously
all was off the record,

308
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,680
and, I didn't report it
because, you know,

309
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I wanted to respect his privacy.

310
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,200
He says, you know,
"The world has me all wrong."

311
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,160
He says, you know,
"I enjoyed my time with him.

312
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,920
"You know, just the things
he did was wrong. He hurt me."

313
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,320
And I just thought, wow, you know,

314
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,680
this kid is telling me
that this grown man,

315
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this international icon, hurt him.

316
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,440
I couldn't help but to believe him.

317
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,080
I found no reason
not to believe him.

318
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,680
Michael, are you happy
the case is almost over?

319
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,080
His silence
will be maintained.

320
00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,600
It's now certain
that Michael Jackson

321
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,560
won't be taking the witness stand
in his own defence.

322
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,360
Just as it seemed that this case
was drawing quietly to an end,

323
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,400
there is word of a possible
dramatic finale.

324
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,720
Months before the trial
actually started,

325
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,960
the police had interviewed Gavin.

326
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,320
And I wanted the jury to see it.

327
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,080
{\an5}Because I think if you watch that,
it's very hard for somebody
to watch that and say,

328
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,560
"Oh, yeah, they're making
the whole thing up."

329
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,080
He wanted to show you
how to masturbate?

330
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,480
OK.

331
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,920
OK.

332
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,080
Did he put it on the outside?

333
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,600
Inside?

334
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520
And what did he do next?

335
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,840
OK.

336
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,800
If there was a smoking gun
in the whole case,

337
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,520
that was Gavin's interview
with the sheriff's department.

338
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,440
I had really been convinced
that Gavin was telling the truth.

339
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,200
Others on the jury saw this
as not being the case at all.

340
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,680
A lot of people in that courtroom
were very moved by that video.

341
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,640
- I got to tell you, Jim...
- Go ahead.

342
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,200
A lot of people were moved
by that video,

343
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,040
but a lot of people
thought the kid was acting.

344
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,680
You know, I suppose there's
reasonable doubt that he made it up.

345
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,000
Or he was he was told
by Janet to, erm...

346
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,520
..tell the sheriff's department
that he had been molested.

347
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,040
It just didn't come across
that way to me.

348
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,080
He absolutely looked believable.

349
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,360
- Michael's innocent!
- Michael's innocent!

350
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840
After 14 weeks
of often lurid testimony,

351
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Michael Jackson's trial is now
entering its most crucial phase.

352
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,400
In Santa Maria, California, tonight,
it's all in the hands of the jury.

353
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,160
Eight women, four men
on the Michael Jackson jury

354
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,880
will decide whether or not he
is guilty of child molestation.

355
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440
I was worried about the jury.

356
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,000
I had complete faith
in everything Gavin was saying.

357
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,240
And I... There was never
a question in my mind

358
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,640
as to the honesty
or accuracy of his statements.

359
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,320
Never.

360
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:17,080
But this was an
international superstar,

361
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,720
one of the most powerful men
in the world.

362
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,880
And that changes the equation.

363
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,960
{\an8}No matter what humanitarian actions,

364
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,120
{\an8}no matter what joy and entertainment
he brought to the world,

365
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,240
if Michael was harming children,
he was a monster.

366
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,320
But he was not a monster.
He didn't do any of those things.

367
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,480
{\an5}There are people here
from more than 28 countries
reporting on the trial.

368
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,920
Hotel rooms are booked
within a 40 mile radius.

369
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,640
Special fences and security
have been brought in

370
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,560
and the fan contingent
continues to grow as well.

371
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,720
The fan presence was there
from beginning to end

372
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,960
and they were vociferous.

373
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,480
Those are the hardcore Michael
Jackson fans from around the world.

374
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Innocent!

375
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960
Innocent!

376
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,400
Michael had encouraged his family
and by extension his fans

377
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,360
to wear white,
saying that he was innocent.

378
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,080
But I thought at the very least
it's going to be a hung jury,

379
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,200
but they'll probably
get a conviction.

380
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,480
He could face nearly
20 years in prison.

381
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,920
If the jury comes back guilty,
Jackson will be off

382
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640
to Corcoran State Prisons
Protective Housing Unit,

383
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,200
home to, among others,
convicted murderer Charles Manson.

384
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Michael was feeling...

385
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,920
..frightened.

386
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,240
You're the biggest star
in the world.

387
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,760
You...

388
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,720
You have magic that nobody else has.

389
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,440
And you are scared to death.

390
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,240
Your life is coming to an end.

391
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,080
And I said to him, I said,

392
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,040
"Michael, we're going to
win. Do you understand?

393
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,960
"We're going to win."

394
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,160
He says, Brian, "I'm so scared.
I don't think so."

395
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,240
Transmission, can you hear me?
Can anyone hear me?

396
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,560
Edgar, they're on the...
Come with me. It's OK.

397
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,080
There is breaking news that the
jury in Santa Maria, California,

398
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,440
has sent word
that it has reached a verdict.

399
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,360
They announced
that they had a verdict

400
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,760
and it would be presented
in the courtroom in two hours.

401
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720
He drove up the freeway
from Neverland Ranch

402
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,680
and the convoy of cars
and fans behind him

403
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
was unbelievable.

404
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:34,280
His motorcade, as you
see from this helicopter shot live,

405
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,520
left his so-called Neverland Ranch
within the past 30 minutes

406
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,520
and is winding its way...

407
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,160
In the car, you had
Michael in the middle

408
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,040
and La Toya on the right.

409
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,200
And she prayed with him.

410
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,320
"Dear Lord, take care of Your child,
Michael Jackson."

411
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,440
"He is Your servant, Lord.

412
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,760
"He does Your bidding."

413
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,040
"Protect him. Defend him."

414
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,080
And Michael is stoic.

415
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,000
He doesn't say a word.

416
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,640
Outside the courtroom was a zoo.

417
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800
I'd never seen anything
like that before.

418
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,480
Gavin was not there.
It felt like too much to take on.

419
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,720
If he's found guilty,
it'll be a journey

420
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,440
not back to Neverland,
but straight to prison.

421
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,600
We're in
a waiting game now.

422
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,880
By the way, we should point out
that the local police department

423
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,880
has dispatched a number of officers
trained to watch

424
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,320
for potential suicidal behaviour
on the part of some of these fans.

425
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,800
- Brian, I'm told...
- We can hear our producer.

426
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,560
He is opening each ballot
one at a time.

427
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,960
I'm told the room is very silent.

428
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,920
- But some of them...
- I'm sorry,
we have to interrupt you

429
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,600
because we're beginning
to hear a little bit of audio

430
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,640
coming from the courtroom.

431
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,480
The microphone's on.

432
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,240
Superior Court of the State of
California, count one verdict.

433
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,600
We, the jury, in the above entitled
case, find the defendant not guilty.

434
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,440
{\an1}CHEERING

435
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,520
Count two verdict, not guilty.

436
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,320
Not guilty!

437
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Count three verdict,

438
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,240
not guilty of a lewd act
upon a minor child.

439
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,720
He's vindicated! He's vindicated!

440
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200
The clerk read it -
Not guilty. Not guilty.

441
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,960
Not guilty. Not guilty.
Not guilty. Not guilty.

442
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Not guilty
on all ten counts.

443
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,640
I always believed him!

444
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,000
{\an5}I would not have come here
if I thought Michael Jackson
was guilty of these crimes!

445
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,560
I believed in him
and I fought for him!

446
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Michael Jackson
is now free.

447
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200
This case is over.

448
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,640
This is an all out vindication

449
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480
for Michael Jackson
and his supporters.

450
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,760
Michael got up...

451
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,600
..everyone congratulated everyone...

452
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,960
..didn't say a word, turned around,
and he walked out.

453
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,480
There he is.

454
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,920
The first look at Michael Jackson

455
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000
after his acquittal
on all ten counts.

456
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200
Clearly, this jury did not buy

457
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,280
that these people
were telling the truth.

458
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520
There's no doubt about it.

459
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,960
The defence said this family,
this mother,

460
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,080
wanted to ride the gravy train.

461
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,240
Jurors realised that, you know,

462
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,880
in the celebrity land
of Michael Jackson,

463
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,240
people do get accused of things
that they haven't done.

464
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Your reaction to the news, Stacey?

465
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Well, Brian, I'm stunned.

466
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,640
{\an5}I really thought that there
was going to be a couple
of convictions there.

467
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,720
He's dodged a bullet.

468
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,880
I truly felt that Michael Jackson
was a child molester.

469
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400
I felt that then
and I haven't changed my mind now.

470
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,040
But the problem was proving it.

471
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,080
And the jury had a hard time
believing the Arvizos.

472
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,160
We got Gavin on the phone.

473
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
And Gavin, poor Gavin...

474
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
I just remember that voice.

475
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,160
"Why didn't they believe me?

476
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520
"Why didn't they believe me?"

477
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,720
It was over.

478
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,520
We would talk about Michael
going through the fire...

479
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,840
..or the book of Daniel.

480
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,800
And I said, "Michael, you are
being tested by fire. Michael."

481
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,960
As it turns out...

482
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,720
..this trial hurt him.

483
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640
It hurt him badly.

484
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480
He never went back to Neverland.

485
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840
It was spoilt. It was ruined.
It was defiled.

486
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640
It was no longer
the place of dreams.

487
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,560
So I think it was three days
after the verdict,

488
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,720
Michael got in his limousine
to LAX...

489
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,440
..to Bahrain.

490
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200
Michael Jackson turned
up at a Bahrain shopping mall,

491
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,240
hiding his face behind a veil
and wearing a black robe

492
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080
traditionally worn by
Middle Eastern women.

493
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,640
He became what even his family
described as a vagabond.

494
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,760
{\an8}Michael and his kids would go
from place to place,

495
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,640
{\an8}anywhere he could find a home.

496
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,480
He was lost. Michael was lost.

497
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,040
{\an8}Last night, his crown
was looking distinctly tarnished.

498
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,360
{\an8}Amid the adulation,
the clear sound of booing.

499
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,280
Michael hated being hated.

500
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,360
He disliked being disliked.

501
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560
He took it very personally.

502
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,080
He was very fragile in that regard.
He was used to being loved.

503
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,960
But at that time, he really was...

504
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,520
..very unhappy at how hated he felt.

505
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,960
{\an8}Michael Jackson finally
came back to Las Vegas.

506
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,400
But he was...

507
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,360
..a broken man.

508
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,360
There were tremendous
financial problems.

509
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,800
And also, it's believed that his
drug problems continued to mount.

510
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
And there were terrible
reports I got

511
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280
that Michael was using medications.

512
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,520
And the family staged
an intervention.

513
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,840
"No, no, no, I got this
under control.

514
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,840
"I'm not addicted. I'm not."

515
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Whatever, Michael.
I tried. I tried, too.

516
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,920
After the trial,
Gavin was a different person.

517
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,240
He was very different.
He was subdued.

518
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000
I would take him out driving.

519
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,000
We would just kind of...

520
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560
..process everything
that had gone on.

521
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,080
It just was tough.
Things were tough.

522
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,880
They had all changed their names
to go back to school.

523
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,560
But, erm, some of the
Michael Jackson fans

524
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,840
had discovered their aliases
and sort of outed them on Myspace.

525
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
He became extremely depressed.

526
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,000
It was very, very difficult for him
to picture a life for himself.

527
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Michael believed
that if he could perform again,

528
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,760
that he would gain strength
from his fans.

529
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,600
{\an1}CHEERING

530
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,160
Because his livelihood
and his life was the stage.

531
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,640
I love you.

532
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,480
{\an1}CHEERING

533
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,960
I really do. You have to know
that I love you so much.

534
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,240
Michael suddenly agrees
to do 50 concerts.

535
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,040
See you in July!

536
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,000
{\an1}CHEERING

537
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,680
50!

538
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,440
Michael couldn't get out
of bed in the morning.

539
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,400
He was taking all this crap
and all these drugs.

540
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,000
And 50!

541
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,040
Who ever got him to agree to that?

542
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,400
The only thing that was going to do
was put so much pressure on him

543
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680
that he would up the drug intake.

544
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,440
We were concerned that the phones
were being disconnected.

545
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Mrs Jackson had indicated
at one point

546
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,320
she hadn't spoken to him
in 12 weeks.

547
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,080
{\an8}Every time she tried calling,
the line was disconnected.

548
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,320
{\an8}Well, that's the same thing
that was happening to us.

549
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,040
But I don't think anybody
really thought

550
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,680
it was anything very
sinister going on.

551
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,400
When I heard that, I was shocked.

552
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,960
I'm like, that's pure bullshit.

553
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,840
Somebody took a recording
and put it on slow motion.

554
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,040
That didn't even sound right.

555
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,000
I went...

556
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,400
I went to the emergency room.

557
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,320
And inside the emergency room
was the family.

558
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,320
I saw them. I saw Mrs Jackson,
I saw Mr Jackson.

559
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,920
And I was looking
through the window...

560
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,320
..and in the background
they were pumping somebody's chest.

561
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,920
I said, "Oh, my. Oh, my."

562
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Michael Jackson
is dead at the age of 50.

563
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,760
What I felt was absolute
infernal...

564
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,280
..rage.

565
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,720
You stupid, stupid man.

566
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Michael! Michael!
What have you done?

567
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,800
You've orphaned your children.

568
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,920
I think it took a few hours
for the rage to wear off.

569
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,080
And then terrible grief set in.

570
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Michael's favourite word
was 'innocence'

571
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,840
because Michael was robbed
of that childhood innocence.

572
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,760
He said to me,
"I never had innocence.

573
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,720
"My life has been a constant
effort to reclaim lost innocence,

574
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040
"like a return to Eden,
a return to paradise."

575
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,600
There is new global backlash tonight

576
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,560
following the bombshell documentary
Leaving Neverland.

577
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,760
The accusations made by Wade Robson,
who is now 36,

578
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,800
and James Safechuck, now 41,
are quite similar.

579
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Both were befriended by Jackson
when they were young boys

580
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,240
and both were brought
to his Neverland Ranch,

581
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,480
where they claim the abuse began.

582
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,120
So what are you alleging
that he actually did?

583
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,320
He sexually abused me
from seven years old until 14.

584
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,840
I've lived in silence
and denial for 22 years

585
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,440
and I can't spend
another moment in that.

586
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,240
I was appalled.

587
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,000
I was shocked.

588
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,280
Wade Robson told the jury
under penalty of perjury,

589
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
"It didn't happen."

590
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,520
And then he does this film
and says, "Oh, yeah, it happened."

591
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,880
Well, the two don't jive.

592
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,440
It tells me that it's false.

593
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,400
I have never seen the documentary,

594
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,480
but I think these are cases
of people coming out

595
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,000
and saying horrible things
long after anything is provable

596
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,720
when there's a lot of
money at stake.

597
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,680
The Michael Jackson I knew

598
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,560
was a really, really sweet,
kind hearted person.

599
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,760
I don't know why I get
so protective.

600
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600
It doesn't make any sense.
Do you think he's innocent?

601
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,400
After everything you've seen,

602
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,080
do you still think
he's possibly innocent?

603
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,000
The world will say what it will say

604
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,520
and perhaps only God
knows the truth.

605
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Could I believe...

606
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,560
..that he was a paedophile?

607
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,440
Absolutely, categorically not.

608
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,840
But how do you know?

609
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,360
- How do I know that he wasn't
a paedophile?
- Yes.

610
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,200
Oh, I don't know.

611
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,680
I can only say,
based on all the evidence,

612
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,360
all the trials
and my personal knowledge of him,

613
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,360
he was absolutely incapable
of harming a child.

614
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,960
{\an8}I remember him putting...

615
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,160
{\an8}..my hands on his head
when he was down there.

616
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,240
{\an8}I'll never forget the...

617
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440
{\an8}..the feeling of his hair.

618
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200
The way they painted the picture

619
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:01,280
of inappropriate behaviour,
sexual molestation, it moved me.

620
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,560
I just thought, oh, my gosh.

621
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,240
If you saw that documentary,

622
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,640
you have to have some compassion
for Wade and James.

623
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,800
{\an8}I think I was just like
kind of wincing

624
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,080
{\an8}and I was asking him not to do it,

625
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
{\an8}but he did it and he said,
"Oh, you'll like it."

626
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,960
It was so powerful. So powerful.

627
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,640
I was as big as Michael Jackson fan
as anyone.

628
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,440
But that documentary
showed how this man...

629
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,880
..manipulated not just those boys...

630
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,040
..not just their family...

631
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,280
..Michael manipulated
the entire world.

632
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,600
I believe that the outcome
could have been different

633
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,600
if Jimmy Safechuck and Wade Robson

634
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,440
had been able to talk
about what had happened.

635
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,440
But I don't blame them.

636
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,320
I'm not angry.

637
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,240
I'm maybe a little frustrated,
but I'm really not angry.

638
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,760
I'm glad that they have
come forward now.

639
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360
I think it's helpful.
It's helpful for Gavin.

640
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,920
I think it's helpful
for the rest of the country

641
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520
to understand what
actually happened.

642
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,680
A lot of folks did not want
to believe Gavin.

643
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,760
They wanted to believe their hero,
their idol.

644
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,960
We're talking about the King of Pop.

645
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,280
And we don't want to...

646
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,360
..believe that such
a phenomenal talent is dangerous.

647
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,840
We just don't want those two things
in the same place.

648
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,960
It's very difficult.

649
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,240
I'll be the first one
to tell you because...

650
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,800
..I love his music,
I love what he created.

651
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,440
But Gavin,
his story has never shifted.

652
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,720
And we would know by now if the
reason they had done this was money.

653
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,080
There's been no exchange of money
in regards to any of this

654
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,320
for the Arvizo family.

655
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:16,720
So maybe we need to ask ourselves,
is that body of work worth....

656
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:24,520
..the price of James Wade, Gavin...

657
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,200
Is that a fair price?

658
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,440
Gavin is doing extraordinarily well.

659
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,200
I'm just... I'm magnificently
proud of him.

660
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,320
But he's fought for it.

661
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,440
He's fought hard.

662
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Yeah, it's hard to talk about.

663
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,240
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