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Take your seats quickly, please.

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When you look at the capacity crowd,

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and they set a new attendance record.

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Chris Evert Lloyd
against Martina Navratilova.

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Two best in the world.

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This should be a beauty.

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No one's going through the other one
like whipped cream in this.

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No, sir.

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She got there and couldn't make the shot!

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Sensational point!

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The key to any rivalry is
that you make each other better.

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And you make the sport better.
That's your dream.

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Another sensational point.

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This is Godzilla meets Mothra.

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I mean, they're setting
each other on fire.

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They're flaming each other.

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Of all the great rivalries
in all of sports…

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Ali, Frazier.

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Two champions drawing
the best out of each other.

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Larry Bird is close to gaining revenge

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in that personal battle
with Magic Johnson.

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No question,
hands down the rivalry of the decade.

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…to me, there has been
no other rivalry in any sport

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that has equaled
Chris Evert versus Martina Navratilova.

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Eighty fucking times
they played each other.

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Yeah, I mean, that just seems insane.

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The most combative,
cold-hearted pursuers of greatness

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that you've ever met in your entire life.

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I don't think either one of them wants
to admit how bad it was.

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Advantage Navratilova.

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Oh my God!

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They were battling a war forever
on the tennis court.

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And now, in life,
they're trying to save each other.

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I still get, like, PTSD being here.

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Um…

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Yeah.

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It hit me when I was here for the Open

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because it was always
such a happy… happy thing to be here.

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But then the seven weeks of misery
was pretty rough.

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-Knock, knock.
-Hello!

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-Oh my goodness, hi. You look great. Hi.
-Hello. Thank you.

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I think the short hair suits you.

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Yes, I have been called "sir"
a few more times.

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-Shine the light.
-Ah. Stick out your tongue.

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I'm nervous. This is my first checkup

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since my treatment finished
four months ago.

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Deep, slow breaths.

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I was diagnosed with
breast cancer as well as throat cancer.

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Uh, I had a lumpectomy
on the right breast.

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Then I had the proton and chemo
on the throat.

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There was a lot of moving parts.

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You're… you're not that far
out of treatment.

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The… the great thing is
that you're done with chemo,

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but, you know, if you look
at the surveillance guidelines

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for head and neck cancers,

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I think doing a PET scan in one year
is reasonable.

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Strong, powerful heart.
Can you lie down for me?

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I mean, I've been walking now half a mile,

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and, you know,
just doesn't bother me at all.

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Excellent. Are you taking
any pain medication?

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-No. Nothing.
-Okay.

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Ow! Oh.

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Sorry. That was…

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-Belly button's a little sensitive.
-Yeah.

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Oh, shit. Are you going to stick it
through my nose or…?

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Yeah. You'll be okay?

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Ah!

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Breathe through your nose.

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-You can say, eee.
-Eee.

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Beautiful.

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Textbook. Wow.

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-Ah!
-Stick your tongue all the way out.

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-Oh my God!
-Got it. No problem.

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Fuck!

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It's all good, Lulu.

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You can relax now.

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It's the waiting now.

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Dr. Wong is next.

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Waiting to see
whether the cancer is completely gone

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with this constant stress of cancer
hanging over me.

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Last time when I saw you,
you did not have any symptoms.

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Yeah.

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Unfortunately, this time,

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it's not great news.

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The PET/CT picked up cancer cells.

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I asked my team, and we all agree,

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you're gonna take aggressive chemotherapy.

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So expectations,
number one, fatigue, hair loss.

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We know that's gonna happen.
We're gonna watch you very closely--

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You know what? I just got my hair
to a point where I really like it now.

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And now it's gonna go again?
Are you kidding me?

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I know. Sorry. Yeah.

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We're gonna keep fighting.
You're a fighter. I'm a fighter. Okay?

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Now, we have…

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I had ovarian cancer two years ago.

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After surgery…

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Now the cancer has come back
a second time.

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It's like, okay,

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this is about life or death now.

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I better get my shit together.

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I better resolve any kind of issues
that I have in my life.

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Some of the strength in my tennis
comes into play with my cancer.

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The intangibles,

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the emotional and mental part.

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If I set my mind to something,

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I would work
like nobody's ever worked before.

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And I would make it happen.

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In 1970,
women's tennis was getting bigger.

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There were great players.

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Rosie, Virginia, Billie Jean.

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Billie Jean King, world tennis champion

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and leader of a special brand
of female revolutionaries.

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The girls have changed for the better.

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They feel, "I've done it."

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"I didn't have to ask Mom and Dad
for the money."

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"I did it because I played well.
I earned that money."

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And then here comes Chrissie.

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The first time I saw her was
at the US Open.

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Back then, everyone was serve and volley,
which means they would play at the net.

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All of a sudden,
there's this little 16-year-old

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that's squaring it up at the baseline
and carving into people,

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changing everything.

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Evert.

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If somebody around here is nervous,
it's not Christine Marie Evert.

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I actually was in the stadium
watching Chrissie play her first match

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against Mary-Ann Eisel.

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She was down, I think, six match points.

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And the kid comes back. Chrissie Evert.

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And she won every one.

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I was quietly stunned.

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I didn't know that you could be great
without being a grown-up.

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And here's Chrissie doing that.

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Chrissie Evert against Billie Jean King.

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Another lob, which will be good!

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Everybody thinks she's cute.

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Well, let me tell you,
you didn't have to play her.

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Chrissie puts it away.

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The important news today is
President Nixon's economic message

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and the future
of Japanese-American trade relations

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and things like that.

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But for a remarkable number of people,
the important person is

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a 16-year-old girl from Florida.

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Now, I know you've got one major problem.

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You have to be in class at 8:05
at St. Thomas Aquinas in the morning.

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Uh… Do you think you're going to make it?

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Oh, yeah, I'll make it,
even if I'm half asleep.

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Chrissie, all week, everybody was talking

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about the pressures
on the little 16-year-old.

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Tell us, did you really feel any pressure?

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No, I didn't feel any pressure at all.

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I'm gonna be playing
the best in the world,

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so I have nothing to lose,

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and they have everything to lose.

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Chrissie Evert
has not lost a match since March.

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Well, Chris Evert, game, set, and match.

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You heard the call.

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But the professional women,
they weren't that nice to her.

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They were just like,

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"We're killing ourselves."

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"We spent six weeks
with the Newsweek reporter."

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"And they put her on the front cover."

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And all the older women were not happy
that I was getting the attention.

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Nobody was talking to me
when I'd walk in the locker room.

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I think a lot of them deeply resented

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not only the fact
that she was this pretty, lovely package,

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but that they were all getting beaten
by her.

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That's the part that I think stung.

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She was damn good.

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She was proving it to them
at a very young age.

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"I belong here."

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I was a couple years younger
than Chrissie.

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It was like, "My God, look at this girl."

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She came around at a time
where they really needed some fresh blood

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and someone that would attract viewers.

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You looked at her,
"Wow, what a beautiful young woman."

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So feminine, yet a killer on the court.

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I was thrilled because
I'm always worrying about the sport,

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in that we need a superstar.

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And I thought, "She's gonna be the one."

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In the last three years,

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the number of people playing tennis
has doubled to more than 20 million.

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Chrissie has made it.

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Uh, women's tennis is now
the biggest thing.

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The Chrissie craze has begun.

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I told the women,

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"We got started really well,
but we need that second generation."

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They're smart. They got it.

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In my heart,
I knew we had our next superstar.

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That's the match. Chris Evert wins.

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Victory number 84 for Chris Evert.

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And so
it's championship point for Miss Evert.

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And a triumphant
Miss Evert wins the Wimbledon title.

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Chris Evert, the champion
of 1974, and now seeded number one.

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Growing up, I had a subscription
to the magazine World Tennis.

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Chris Evert was in that magazine.

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I thought it was so cool.

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I grew up outside Prague.

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Come on.

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I started on the wall when I was five.

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My dad says, "When you can hold the racket
with one hand, then get back to me."

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So for two years, I was here on the wall

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and just entertained myself
for hours on end,

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hitting backhands against the wall.

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We were at the tennis club the whole day.

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On the weekends
from morning till evenings.

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We just went home for lunch.

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It was our life.

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And then finally, when I was seven,

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this is the court
that I hit my first balls on for real.

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Over the net.

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My dad spent countless hours
on the court with me.

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Then it was a way to be with my father,
and I loved it.

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Russian tanks and infantry
have occupied Czechoslovakia

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and have crushed the new leadership
of that small country.

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I was 12 years old
when the Russians came in '68.

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Everything changed on that day.

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Things became much more restricted.

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But if you were an elite athlete,

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you got automatic visa
to wherever the competition was.

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I knew tennis was my way
of getting out of the country,

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which gave me
the incentive to work harder.

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I would like to achieve
the best, which means winning Wimbledon.

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And then I won
the Czech Championships when I was 15,

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and I won the senior championships.

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That catapulted me to America
to play the USLTA Tour,

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which is where I met Chris
for the first time.

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The first time I met Martina was
at a tournament at a country club.

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She was 15 years old.

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She walked over in the crowd

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in a one-piece bathing suit
and flip-flops.

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Not in tennis clothes,
not in a tracksuit, in a bathing suit.

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She was unlike
any teenage girl I'd ever met.

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She was young and naive.

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She's so real.

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When I came on the tour in '73,

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my first impression of Chris was,

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well, she was friendly enough to say hello
because I was a nobody.

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She was cool in a nice way.

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But we were very different people.

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Chris was very girly.

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I wore my hair in a ponytail
with a ribbon, and I wore jewelry.

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I wore ruffle bloomers
and really pretty, feminine dresses.

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And I was such a tomboy.

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I saw the talent.
I saw the tools that she had.

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She had a big topspin forehand.
She had a big serve.

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00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:06,423
She had wonderful volleys.

249
00:16:08,717 --> 00:16:14,056
If you could write up
who you want for the second generation,

250
00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:16,934
Chrissie and Martina are perfect.

251
00:16:17,893 --> 00:16:20,604
You got somebody
from Czechoslovakia and communism,

252
00:16:20,688 --> 00:16:24,984
and you got this girl next door
from Florida, sunshine.

253
00:16:25,734 --> 00:16:27,861
One's left-handed. One's right-handed.

254
00:16:27,945 --> 00:16:29,863
It's a contrast of styles.

255
00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:32,825
Chrissie's a baseliner, excellent balance.

256
00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,995
Between the ears, like a rock.

257
00:16:36,954 --> 00:16:40,958
Martina is a brilliant serve volleyer,
aggressive.

258
00:16:41,041 --> 00:16:42,876
She's always going forward.

259
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,212
You know, she chips and charges.

260
00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:51,135
That's what attracts spectators.
They absolutely love it.

261
00:16:52,094 --> 00:16:54,346
We would be
in the locker room together a lot

262
00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:57,850
and stayed in the same hotel,
and so then we started hanging out more.

263
00:16:57,933 --> 00:17:01,061
We played backgammon,
and we played, um, Scrabble.

264
00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:05,232
We just became really close friends.

265
00:17:06,233 --> 00:17:08,986
I played her a few times,
and she kicked my ass.

266
00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:12,531
Evert defeats
her close friend Martina Navratilova.

267
00:17:14,450 --> 00:17:17,661
To be honest, in the beginning,

268
00:17:17,745 --> 00:17:20,497
it was fine for me to be friends with her

269
00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:22,291
because I was better than her.

270
00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:24,793
She was emotional

271
00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:27,504
and would be crying on the court
and get down on herself,

272
00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,465
and she wasn't fit.

273
00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,341
You know, she wasn't in the best shape.

274
00:17:32,926 --> 00:17:36,096
Chris won the second.
The championship could be hers.

275
00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:39,641
-That's it!
-There it is!

276
00:17:40,934 --> 00:17:44,938
As time went on,
we started practicing with one another,

277
00:17:45,022 --> 00:17:47,357
and after that, I played doubles with her.

278
00:17:49,985 --> 00:17:51,445
Well, Bill, we knew

279
00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:54,114
that Chrissie and Martina were gonna be
a good team,

280
00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:59,953
but we quite frankly couldn't expect
to have such an easy 6-1 opening set.

281
00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:03,123
It was interesting when they
first started playing doubles together

282
00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:05,793
to see how they started
to have to deal with each other.

283
00:18:05,876 --> 00:18:08,128
They both have strengths
in different areas,

284
00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,756
which can really make
a huge positive difference.

285
00:18:11,965 --> 00:18:16,220
Chrissie providing
the steadiness, Martina the power.

286
00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:17,471
They're doing quite well.

287
00:18:17,554 --> 00:18:20,224
There's a lot of camaraderie
among the ladies.

288
00:18:20,307 --> 00:18:23,477
-All right!
-Game, set, and match.

289
00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:26,939
Miss Evert and Miss Navratilova.

290
00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:32,111
I loved my American friends.

291
00:18:33,862 --> 00:18:36,698
I just fell in love
with everything Americana.

292
00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:38,659
I fit right in.

293
00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:41,120
I was a total Yankee.

294
00:18:41,829 --> 00:18:45,874
In 1975, I got in trouble
with the Czech Federation

295
00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:48,710
because I was hanging out too much
with the American players,

296
00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:51,672
with Chris and Billie Jean
and Rosie Casals.

297
00:18:52,172 --> 00:18:54,174
They said, "Oh, you are too Americanized,

298
00:18:54,258 --> 00:18:57,094
and you need to hang out
with the Russian players more."

299
00:18:57,678 --> 00:19:00,222
The Czech government cracked down on her.

300
00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:02,724
She's threatened by officials saying,

301
00:19:02,808 --> 00:19:05,310
"We're gonna get you in line
and keep you in line."

302
00:19:06,186 --> 00:19:09,148
They were not gonna let me play
the United States Open.

303
00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:14,444
And that's when I thought, "Oh my God,
if they let me out, I'm not coming back."

304
00:19:20,242 --> 00:19:22,786
West Side Tennis Club in Forest Hills

305
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:26,415
has hosted the United States Open annually
for over half a century.

306
00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:29,376
Before the US Open, I told my agent,

307
00:19:29,459 --> 00:19:32,171
"I'm gonna defect after the tournament."

308
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:34,423
Only three people know.

309
00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:36,300
One of those people is Chris Evert.

310
00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:41,180
And they have to play a match on the day
that Martina is going to defect.

311
00:19:48,478 --> 00:19:50,856
There is but one way to become number one

312
00:19:50,939 --> 00:19:53,025
in the world of women's tennis today.

313
00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:54,735
You beat Chrissie Evert.

314
00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:58,322
A close line call
against the highly emotional Navratilova

315
00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:00,657
has disrupted her concentration.

316
00:20:00,741 --> 00:20:02,826
She's lost ten straight points,

317
00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,245
and Evert is serving for the match.

318
00:20:11,752 --> 00:20:13,045
Out. Game.

319
00:20:14,838 --> 00:20:19,051
I won that match,
and she broke down and cried on the court.

320
00:20:28,143 --> 00:20:30,437
I knew the defection was gonna happen,

321
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,023
but I didn't know what it entailed.

322
00:20:34,274 --> 00:20:38,904
Then she told me that she might not see
her parents again ever.

323
00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:44,701
The next day,

324
00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:48,413
I went to the Immigration
and Naturalization Service, INS, office

325
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:49,539
in New York.

326
00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:54,711
I had to sign all these papers and swear
that I was not a communist spy.

327
00:20:54,795 --> 00:20:59,341
They said, "Okay, we approve you
for a green card, and don't tell anybody."

328
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:02,719
The next day, the phone rings…

329
00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:05,389
…and it's my chaperone.

330
00:21:05,472 --> 00:21:06,932
She says, "Why did you do it?"

331
00:21:08,016 --> 00:21:09,810
Oh my God, she knows.

332
00:21:10,435 --> 00:21:13,772
I'm like, "How do you know?"
She said, "It's in The Washington Post."

333
00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:16,733
Somebody leaked it.

334
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:21,071
"Tennis player asks for asylum."

335
00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:22,948
Bam.

336
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,827
Then all hell broke loose.

337
00:21:30,414 --> 00:21:31,581
Hi.

338
00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:32,916
Why did you defect?

339
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,793
Why did I decide to do this?

340
00:21:34,876 --> 00:21:35,711
Yeah.

341
00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:39,089
Uh… Because I felt
I didn't get enough opportunities

342
00:21:39,172 --> 00:21:44,011
to play te-- as much tennis as I want
under the Czech government.

343
00:21:44,094 --> 00:21:46,596
I just felt that
if I want to become number one,

344
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,889
which I want to,

345
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:51,351
that I couldn't do it under the circu--
the circumstances at home.

346
00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,979
Did you say goodbye
to your family at that time?

347
00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:54,896
No.

348
00:21:57,149 --> 00:22:00,610
We first heard on the radio
that she defected.

349
00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:04,698
It was like, boom,
like a hammer on your head.

350
00:22:05,907 --> 00:22:09,578
Mom almost fainted and cried.

351
00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:13,123
And I started to cry.
It was like disaster.

352
00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:15,542
The first reaction was,

353
00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:20,339
"We will never see each other again.
Oh, what poor Martina is gonna do there?"

354
00:22:21,423 --> 00:22:25,594
Imagine something happens.
She's alone there, nobody can help her.

355
00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:28,138
This was…
I think this was the worst thing.

356
00:22:29,389 --> 00:22:32,601
She's left alone in this world.

357
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,896
I felt like I lost my sister.

358
00:22:38,523 --> 00:22:40,525
It was definitely the hardest on my mom.

359
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,070
No doubt about it. And my sister too.

360
00:22:43,153 --> 00:22:46,990
I think because I was
her big sister and protector

361
00:22:47,074 --> 00:22:49,159
and shared everything with her.

362
00:22:49,242 --> 00:22:52,287
She was still not even teenager, so 12.

363
00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:55,332
I still feel guilty to this day.

364
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:01,755
They threatened me
with two years in prison for defecting.

365
00:23:02,339 --> 00:23:04,174
For a week I was kind of in hiding

366
00:23:04,257 --> 00:23:08,762
in case the Czechs would try
to decide to kidnap me and take me back.

367
00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:12,849
And in fact, for a month,
they were following me around.

368
00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:15,602
My life was a mess.

369
00:23:15,685 --> 00:23:17,896
I was just so different
from everybody else.

370
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:24,486
I don't think anybody can
fully understand Martina's experience

371
00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:27,239
right after the defection
in the first year.

372
00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:31,034
When she's trying to learn English
from I Love Lucy reruns.

373
00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:36,415
She comes to the US Open a year later
and is just a mess.

374
00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,709
Martina just whacked our microphone.

375
00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:41,378
-My ears noticed.
-Yeah.

376
00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:43,755
As she put it, uh,

377
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,967
she was a… a walking candidate
for a nervous breakdown.

378
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:56,017
Being alone, that was the cost.

379
00:23:56,935 --> 00:23:58,311
After the match,

380
00:23:58,395 --> 00:24:03,275
other players would have their family,
but my family couldn't be there.

381
00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:09,990
The first tournament I ever won,
I hugged a pole because I was alone.

382
00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:24,963
Come on in.

383
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:27,591
-Just pop it right here, please.
-Okay.

384
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:35,140
My wife, Julia, was with me
for my treatment from the beginning.

385
00:24:35,932 --> 00:24:36,975
And I sent her home.

386
00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:37,934
Okay.

387
00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:39,936
I just need to be alone.

388
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,397
I need to save the energy for myself.

389
00:24:44,107 --> 00:24:45,233
Chemo knocks you out.

390
00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:49,112
I was almost too tired to cry.

391
00:24:51,823 --> 00:24:52,824
I'm done with that,

392
00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:56,036
but it's a shock to the system
in every single way.

393
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,954
Emotionally, physically, mentally.

394
00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:01,208
You get on with it, but it beats you up.

395
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:07,088
I got so excited
when I could taste my first blueberry…

396
00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:10,634
…because the taste buds got all messed up.

397
00:25:12,802 --> 00:25:16,264
It's a strange feeling
for an athlete to not be in control,

398
00:25:17,057 --> 00:25:20,310
but the champion's mind, mentality
really kicks in.

399
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:27,734
You take in all the variables,
all the information, what's important,

400
00:25:27,817 --> 00:25:32,447
and what do you need to do this second
to deal with whatever is happening.

401
00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:36,117
Makes it look like
I have more hair than I actually have.

402
00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:40,413
When you live with that kind of pressure,

403
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:44,000
you learn to put things
into proper order of importance.

404
00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:48,547
The goal is to get free of cancer.

405
00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:54,010
Which way? This way.

406
00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:57,472
And I'll find out
after the scan in six months.

407
00:25:58,265 --> 00:25:59,641
Ready to go, Lulu?

408
00:26:04,479 --> 00:26:07,357
Martina Navratilova
formerly lived in Czechoslovakia

409
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,775
and is now a US resident.

410
00:26:08,858 --> 00:26:11,820
Will Martina put her game together
to beat Chris Evert?

411
00:26:13,071 --> 00:26:14,781
And I think she has an ace.

412
00:26:16,116 --> 00:26:19,661
In 1976, she was playing better.

413
00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:22,998
And then it was like, nah,

414
00:26:23,081 --> 00:26:24,457
she knows me too well.

415
00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,042
She knows my game too well.

416
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:27,586
And I went to her and I said,

417
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:30,797
"I… I can't play doubles
with you anymore."

418
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:33,633
That hurt.

419
00:26:34,342 --> 00:26:36,761
This is where
Chris and I are pretty different.

420
00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:41,683
I can play somebody
and then go to dinner afterwards,

421
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:42,851
win or lose.

422
00:26:44,936 --> 00:26:47,272
But she had to pull away
when we got too close

423
00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:51,276
because she was only really close friends
with players that could never beat her.

424
00:26:53,028 --> 00:26:55,780
We won two
major Grand Slam doubles titles,

425
00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:59,576
but I said,
"I've gotta separate myself" because…

426
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:01,578
Hate to say this,

427
00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:07,792
but it was more important
for me to be number one

428
00:27:08,501 --> 00:27:11,630
than to have great friends.

429
00:27:18,845 --> 00:27:21,139
This is an Andy Warhol.

430
00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:27,145
It was, uh, done in s-- 1976.

431
00:27:27,228 --> 00:27:30,315
I was number one in the world, um,
at that time in tennis.

432
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,068
I was very focused.

433
00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:36,279
I just was pretty tunnel-visioned
about my tennis.

434
00:27:43,453 --> 00:27:46,873
It's championship point
for Chrissie Evert.

435
00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:57,550
That's it. Game, set, and match.

436
00:27:58,051 --> 00:28:02,222
Chris Evert, still only 21,
is Wimbledon champion again.

437
00:28:02,722 --> 00:28:06,351
I'm on the court,
and I'm, like, holding the trophy up,

438
00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:11,106
and I'm really feeling happy,
and it's a great high for me.

439
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:16,820
Then I go back to my hotel room,

440
00:28:16,903 --> 00:28:19,906
and I just felt like this weight,

441
00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:22,534
and I lied down on the floor,
and I couldn't get up.

442
00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:25,995
It was depression.

443
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:31,126
And that was a self-realization that,

444
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:36,715
"Chrissie, you don't have any friends.
That's why you're lying on the floor."

445
00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:39,175
"It doesn't matter
you won a Wimbledon trophy."

446
00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:44,848
"If you don't have any friends,
then you're not happy."

447
00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,394
That was the Wimbledon that you decided

448
00:28:49,477 --> 00:28:51,104
to stop playing with Martina.

449
00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:55,900
So if you didn't have any friendships,

450
00:28:55,984 --> 00:28:59,195
then why cut off this one
that you did have?

451
00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:04,826
Um…

452
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:10,582
You… you give up things
if you wanna be great at something.

453
00:29:10,665 --> 00:29:12,000
You give up things.

454
00:29:18,089 --> 00:29:21,760
Growing up, you know,
it was all about tennis.

455
00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:28,016
Friendship was never encouraged.

456
00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:33,605
My dad had a shopping cart full of balls,

457
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:37,358
and he would just
hit balls to me for an hour.

458
00:29:37,942 --> 00:29:40,445
Now, let's just work on second balls
for a while, okay?

459
00:29:40,528 --> 00:29:42,697
A little more spin on that second ball
than on the first.

460
00:29:43,573 --> 00:29:45,116
Way up. Reach.

461
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,035
I played tennis for my dad.

462
00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:51,915
You know, I wanted to please him.
I wanted to make him happy.

463
00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:54,751
But I didn't like it very much.

464
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:56,836
I became really resentful.

465
00:29:57,337 --> 00:29:59,714
She lost out on a lot of her childhood.

466
00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:03,551
She didn't have sleepovers.

467
00:30:03,635 --> 00:30:06,221
She really didn't date in high school.

468
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:12,227
And I think as a result of her upbringing,
Chrissie was more reserved.

469
00:30:14,854 --> 00:30:17,816
No one became number one
in the world younger than Chris Evert.

470
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:23,029
She became "Chrissie"
at a ridiculously young age.

471
00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:24,906
There was no well-roundedness there.

472
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:31,079
Having success
at a very young age wasn't great

473
00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:34,040
for emotional, mental growth.

474
00:30:34,707 --> 00:30:37,460
And so I always felt like, I--

475
00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:40,880
You know, "I wanna be isolated.
I just wanna concentrate on my matches."

476
00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:43,675
Now, when you play,
you… you keep your concentration…

477
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:44,592
Yeah.

478
00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:45,718
…by being very cool,

479
00:30:45,802 --> 00:30:48,054
and you don't ever give
any reaction to anything,

480
00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:49,764
any overt reaction that we can see.

481
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,892
When I'm on the court, I'm-- You know,
I'm doing a job. I'm out there to win.

482
00:30:53,476 --> 00:30:55,311
I want to be number one.

483
00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:57,438
The Little Ice Woman, Chrissie Evert.

484
00:30:58,314 --> 00:30:59,649
Miss Evert,

485
00:30:59,732 --> 00:31:02,735
who's often called
"The Ice Maiden" in the press.

486
00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:07,866
"The Ice Maiden" is fine with me.

487
00:31:09,117 --> 00:31:10,618
I was that way on the court.

488
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,122
And I just held everything in
and I didn't show emotion.

489
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:15,832
I liked being that way.

490
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:19,294
I used it to my advantage.

491
00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:21,754
That worked for me.

492
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:24,215
But it was just

493
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,634
very lonely.

494
00:31:35,226 --> 00:31:36,436
You ready for this?

495
00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:40,231
You have to be, right?

496
00:31:42,191 --> 00:31:43,818
So how you doing today?

497
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:47,322
Um, about as well as can be expected.

498
00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:50,491
Pharmacy's working on your medications
right now.

499
00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:52,410
-Okay.
-Any pain?

500
00:31:52,493 --> 00:31:57,624
Andy, my former husband,
takes me to my chemos.

501
00:31:57,707 --> 00:31:59,375
All right. Let's see.

502
00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:02,295
We were married for 20 years.

503
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,756
We had three kids.

504
00:32:07,717 --> 00:32:10,887
There's a caring there
that'll never go away.

505
00:32:12,722 --> 00:32:15,558
Sometimes it takes
terrible things to happen

506
00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:18,937
for you to realize
how you really feel about things.

507
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:22,231
-You're gonna fall asleep after.
-I know, I know.

508
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:27,528
You said something interesting
about God this time.

509
00:32:28,529 --> 00:32:33,201
Spirituality is going to be, um,
important now.

510
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:36,371
It-- I-- I kind of touched the surface
last time,

511
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:38,831
but I feel like I can go further now.

512
00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:40,541
How do you think about it?

513
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:42,251
Just… Basically just

514
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:46,798
giving in to things you can't control

515
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,842
and not worrying about them

516
00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:53,721
and kind of a-- allowing yourself
to be free.

517
00:32:59,602 --> 00:33:02,730
I have had control
over almost everything in my life

518
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,065
up until now.

519
00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:06,943
When you're struck with cancer,

520
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:10,822
it just changes your perspective
and your mindset on life.

521
00:33:10,905 --> 00:33:12,115
Yes, we have some warm…

522
00:33:12,198 --> 00:33:15,952
I just need to let go
and let go of the control.

523
00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:23,418
I think she really opened her eyes

524
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:27,422
to what this whole thing called life
is all about

525
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:29,841
because death is on the table.

526
00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:35,304
The egos go away,
and you're taken down to ground zero.

527
00:33:39,642 --> 00:33:42,061
Chris Evert turns 23 today,

528
00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:45,648
and she summons the press to her home
here in Fort Lauderdale.

529
00:33:45,732 --> 00:33:46,649
Chris wanted to talk

530
00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:50,319
about why she's not going to play
on the Virginia Slim Circuit in 1978.

531
00:33:50,903 --> 00:33:53,948
I decided that I definitely needed
two or three months off.

532
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,075
I've never had
more than three weeks off in tennis,

533
00:33:56,159 --> 00:34:01,247
and I've just gone at such a fast pace
the last four years or five years.

534
00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:02,999
Physically, I was having injuries,

535
00:34:03,082 --> 00:34:05,710
and mentally,
I just wasn't with it every match.

536
00:34:05,793 --> 00:34:08,713
And I just really decided
that I did need a rest.

537
00:34:08,796 --> 00:34:10,631
I needed to get eager again.

538
00:34:11,632 --> 00:34:13,342
And I mean,
I haven't lifted a tennis racket.

539
00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:17,513
I've played three days in the last month,
and that's a first for me, and I love it.

540
00:34:19,307 --> 00:34:22,351
Playing that brand of tennis
is gonna burn you out

541
00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:27,398
if you're that good
and you're playing that many matches.

542
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:30,777
And I think because I'm not playing,

543
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:34,697
it's gonna force some
of the younger players to play better.

544
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:38,618
You know, people like Martina are gonna
start winning a lot of tournaments now.

545
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,413
It takes a while

546
00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:47,794
for Martina to regain her footing
and competitive drive after defecting.

547
00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:50,296
When she does,

548
00:34:51,964 --> 00:34:55,510
she goes on a real quest
to the very top of the mountain.

549
00:35:00,681 --> 00:35:02,475
I wanted to be number one.

550
00:35:03,726 --> 00:35:06,312
Matt, Martina has lost
a great deal of weight,

551
00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:09,398
and she looks terrific
and is moving very, very well.

552
00:35:15,863 --> 00:35:18,574
Martina Navratilova, the number two seed.

553
00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:30,211
Chris Evert is coming back next week,

554
00:35:30,294 --> 00:35:33,798
and I would not even know about it
except the press keeps reminding me.

555
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,302
For the first time,
this was an Evert-Navratilova world.

556
00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:42,181
There was a battle that year
over who was going to be number one.

557
00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:43,766
Martina Navratilova.

558
00:35:43,850 --> 00:35:45,852
Game, set, and match for Miss Evert.

559
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:52,233
In '78, I had beaten
everybody in the world at that point.

560
00:35:53,484 --> 00:35:55,903
Martina has not really been tested as yet.

561
00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:57,697
Game, set, match, Navratilova.

562
00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:59,907
So I knew I had it in me to beat her.

563
00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:03,619
I knew I had a target on my back.

564
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:07,957
There were different schools of thought

565
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,500
on who was number one in the world,

566
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:13,254
so really, it came down to Wimbledon.

567
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:17,216
This was either gonna be

568
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,969
a magnificent breakthrough moment
for Navratilova

569
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:24,891
to get her first major and maybe change
the nature of the rivalry some,

570
00:36:25,725 --> 00:36:27,226
or if Chris wins it,

571
00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:31,397
maybe she goes on dominating Martina
for some time to come.

572
00:36:35,943 --> 00:36:39,822
As we look at Chris Evert,
who's seeded number one,

573
00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:42,408
she's rightly enjoyed it
for the last four years.

574
00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:43,993
And her opponent,

575
00:36:45,328 --> 00:36:48,080
Martina Navratilova.

576
00:36:48,748 --> 00:36:53,085
I think most people hoped
and longed to see this clash

577
00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:56,422
of the two currently dominant women
in tennis.

578
00:36:56,505 --> 00:36:57,924
Advantage, Miss Navratilova.

579
00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:00,968
-Who was coaching you during this match?
-I didn't have a coach.

580
00:37:02,011 --> 00:37:03,512
Miss Evert to serve.

581
00:37:05,431 --> 00:37:07,308
So here we go.

582
00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:19,570
I had such a swagger.

583
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:22,531
You definitely had a swagger.
That was intimidating.

584
00:37:30,873 --> 00:37:32,458
She missed the ball completely,

585
00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:33,793
something I don't remember seeing.

586
00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:38,547
Certainly the Czech girl
really has to find her game.

587
00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:44,470
No, you're shaking your head "no."
That's what I didn't like.

588
00:37:44,553 --> 00:37:47,723
Yeah, I was shaking it at me, not at you.

589
00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:50,351
So Chris putting the pressure on Martina.

590
00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:53,521
I'm getting nervous
even though we know what happened.

591
00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:54,438
Yeah.

592
00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,407
Yeah!

593
00:38:05,574 --> 00:38:08,119
Chrissie is leading the match,
and you think,

594
00:38:08,202 --> 00:38:10,621
"Well, you know, this thing's gonna go
the way it always goes."

595
00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:12,206
"Martina's gonna
give her a little trouble,

596
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:15,001
but Chrissie's really handling her,
and she's gonna win the match."

597
00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:15,918
Yes.

598
00:38:16,002 --> 00:38:17,586
Because she's Chris Evert.

599
00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:21,299
And Martina advances to the net.

600
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:27,263
15-40.

601
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,020
You know, it's a little patronizing.

602
00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:38,858
It's a sweet gesture, but it's also, like,
you know, very unthreatened.

603
00:38:38,941 --> 00:38:43,112
And something about
that shot hitting her in the head

604
00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:45,156
seems to shake something loose in Martina.

605
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:47,241
It sure did.

606
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,368
You were a different player after that.

607
00:38:53,914 --> 00:38:55,041
Out.

608
00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:02,089
First game, final set.

609
00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:06,761
Chris Evert is nervous.

610
00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:12,308
Yes.

611
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:16,854
You dominate.

612
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:27,865
40-love.

613
00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:31,327
Miss Navratilova serving for the match.

614
00:39:31,911 --> 00:39:34,288
6-5 up, third set.

615
00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,750
You can hear your heart beating.

616
00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:42,463
You hear yourself breathing.

617
00:39:43,005 --> 00:39:45,883
Everything's magnified, like,
a hundred times.

618
00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:52,723
And time stands still,
and it's too fast at the same time.

619
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,103
You could hear a pin drop.

620
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:02,566
Quiet, please.

621
00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:13,661
That's it! She's done it!

622
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:16,956
The champion.

623
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,583
Game, set, and match to Miss Navratilova.

624
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,421
-You were so sweet.
-Aw, it was your first time.

625
00:40:28,801 --> 00:40:30,511
That's the purest joy

626
00:40:30,594 --> 00:40:33,097
that I think I ever felt on a court
was that match.

627
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:36,642
-Because it was such a lifelong dream.
-It was your goal.

628
00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:43,691
What are you thinking right now?

629
00:40:44,692 --> 00:40:47,570
I'm crying because my parents
weren't there, not because I won.

630
00:40:47,653 --> 00:40:49,738
-Oh!
-Miss Evert.

631
00:40:50,781 --> 00:40:52,283
Chrissie Evert,

632
00:40:52,366 --> 00:40:54,535
the highest money winner
in the history of women's tennis

633
00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:57,663
but now the number two-ranked player
in the world.

634
00:40:57,746 --> 00:41:01,709
And Martina Navratilova,
currently number one in the world.

635
00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:07,214
I've done what I've always
wanted to do, to win Wimbledon,

636
00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:10,301
and with that, right now
I'm number one tennis player in the world,

637
00:41:10,384 --> 00:41:13,053
and, um, right now
I'm just gonna try to maintain it.

638
00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:16,265
It's-- It's not gonna be easy
because now I'm the champion,

639
00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:20,019
and every g-- everybody's gonna try
twice as hard to beat me,

640
00:41:20,102 --> 00:41:25,274
but, um, I'm just so happy right now
that I can, uh, take on anybody.

641
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:51,467
My younger sister Jeannie died
from ovarian cancer.

642
00:41:58,307 --> 00:42:00,142
It spread so quickly.

643
00:42:00,643 --> 00:42:04,313
By the time she was diagnosed,
she was already stage four.

644
00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:08,025
It spread to every other organ
in her body.

645
00:42:10,236 --> 00:42:13,072
It was so painful to watch.

646
00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,538
Two years later,
the geneticist calls saying,

647
00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:21,956
"Go get testing."

648
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,834
I had the same gene.

649
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,965
I was diagnosed with stage one.

650
00:42:32,424 --> 00:42:37,972
My doctor said, "If you hadn't found it,
you would have been stage three or four."

651
00:42:41,475 --> 00:42:45,479
She had to die from this insidious cancer

652
00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:49,984
to give me the chance
to have the life that I have now.

653
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,741
When Chris told me

654
00:42:57,825 --> 00:43:01,996
she was gonna have a breast mastectomy
because of the BRCA gene…

655
00:43:04,665 --> 00:43:05,958
I started crying…

656
00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:10,921
not knowing
that I had cancer at that moment.

657
00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:19,471
When I found the lump on my throat,
I go in for a CT scan.

658
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:26,645
I found out I had breast cancer
as well as throat cancer.

659
00:43:37,072 --> 00:43:38,782
Every scan, it's terrifying.

660
00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:49,209
-You ready for this?
-Yeah.

661
00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:02,514
The second time really hit home

662
00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:05,059
how precious every moment is…

663
00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:08,979
how precious life is.

664
00:44:19,365 --> 00:44:21,992
I wanna be around forever for my kids.

665
00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:33,837
All right, Martina, now
you are hotter than a pistol right now.

666
00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:35,339
People are saying you're number one.

667
00:44:35,422 --> 00:44:39,885
People are saying you've dislodged Chris
from number one woman player in the world.

668
00:44:39,968 --> 00:44:41,345
You came out… Oh!

669
00:44:41,428 --> 00:44:44,056
-Dropped the racket right on her foot.
-Don't hurt me!

670
00:44:44,139 --> 00:44:46,392
Now, Chris, why did you drop the racket
on Martina's foot?

671
00:44:46,475 --> 00:44:47,935
Right on my bad toe, yeah.

672
00:44:48,018 --> 00:44:49,770
On your bad toe. I see.

673
00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:51,397
That's what-- Tell me about…

674
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,441
On the road to being number one is great.

675
00:44:54,525 --> 00:44:56,777
You know, sort of that climb
up the ladder.

676
00:44:56,860 --> 00:44:58,946
That is extremely exciting.

677
00:45:01,073 --> 00:45:05,703
It's when you get there,
now the expectations are a lot higher.

678
00:45:06,578 --> 00:45:08,914
You're expected to win all the time.

679
00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:11,125
It gets more difficult.

680
00:45:12,501 --> 00:45:16,255
Martina was number one,
but then her game declined.

681
00:45:16,338 --> 00:45:19,049
The troubled personal life affecting
her concentration,

682
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:20,884
her dedication, her play.

683
00:45:22,428 --> 00:45:25,347
The one thing I could always
count on in the early years was

684
00:45:25,431 --> 00:45:28,308
Martina not having the killer instinct.

685
00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:32,271
She even used to admit
that she loved to play her friends

686
00:45:32,354 --> 00:45:35,649
because when she won, she was happy,
and when she lost, she was happy.

687
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:37,818
I'm like, whoa.

688
00:45:37,901 --> 00:45:39,403
That's not how I feel.

689
00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:43,824
I played Martina at Amelia Island.

690
00:45:44,825 --> 00:45:46,785
Forty-first meeting of these women.

691
00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:51,540
Chris Evert Lloyd leads
in the rivalry, 27-13.

692
00:45:55,461 --> 00:45:59,131
I was handling her pretty well
and beating her.

693
00:46:01,049 --> 00:46:02,426
Ooh, Evert Lloyd!

694
00:46:04,136 --> 00:46:06,764
I think Martina has always
had it within her reach

695
00:46:06,847 --> 00:46:08,223
to be number one in the world.

696
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:10,726
But I think
that she doesn't quite knuckle down

697
00:46:10,809 --> 00:46:13,020
and use the talent that she has.

698
00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:16,774
-Out!
-There you go.

699
00:46:16,857 --> 00:46:18,358
I beat her 6-love, 6-love.

700
00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:20,319
Chris Evert Lloyd.

701
00:46:20,402 --> 00:46:22,279
Didn't get a game. She didn't get a game.

702
00:46:22,362 --> 00:46:23,947
Seventeen straight matches

703
00:46:24,031 --> 00:46:26,200
during this undefeated 1981 season
for her.

704
00:46:26,283 --> 00:46:27,701
Six-love, six-love.

705
00:46:27,785 --> 00:46:29,953
I met Nancy Lieberman that weekend.

706
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:36,418
She's like, "You're not working hard."
I'm like, "What are you talking about?"

707
00:46:36,502 --> 00:46:39,630
She says, "You could train much harder."
I'm like, "What do you mean?"

708
00:46:41,590 --> 00:46:43,592
She took me on these basketball drills,

709
00:46:43,675 --> 00:46:46,929
and that's when I realized, "Oh my God,
I could be in so much better shape."

710
00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:51,558
I know what it takes
to be on top and to be number one,

711
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:54,770
and Martina was just not giving her all
that she could in tennis.

712
00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:58,023
You-- You're gonna have to hit
a lot more than that, Wonder Woman.

713
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:00,275
Basketball star Nancy Lieberman

714
00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:01,860
is usually at her side.

715
00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:05,030
-Like that?
-Keep it out in front. It's too close.

716
00:47:05,781 --> 00:47:09,493
Nancy was this rough-and-tumble
New Yorker basketball player.

717
00:47:09,576 --> 00:47:12,037
She's… she's throwing elbows, hip checks.

718
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,163
That's who she was.

719
00:47:13,247 --> 00:47:16,834
Nancy Lieberman,
23 years old, born in Brooklyn,

720
00:47:16,917 --> 00:47:21,129
a master at boiling lobsters,
an act that makes Martina cry.

721
00:47:21,713 --> 00:47:24,842
Nancy Lieberman got mad at her
and just yelled at her,

722
00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:28,303
"You're better. Every area of your game,
you're better than she is."

723
00:47:28,387 --> 00:47:31,056
"She's not the athlete you are.
She doesn't move like you do."

724
00:47:31,139 --> 00:47:32,808
"She doesn't have the shotmaking you do."

725
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:35,936
Nancy said, "She has what you want."

726
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,981
"You need to not be friends with her.
You need to kick her ass."

727
00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:42,734
And when I'm doing the weights,
I'm thinking about Chris.

728
00:47:42,818 --> 00:47:44,027
When I'm doing the drills,

729
00:47:44,111 --> 00:47:46,613
I'm thinking about Chris
because I got everybody else covered.

730
00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:50,284
She was my carrot.
She was the one that I needed to beat.

731
00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:54,162
She realized,

732
00:47:54,246 --> 00:47:56,582
"I've got to get thinner.
I've got to get fitter."

733
00:47:56,665 --> 00:47:58,876
"I've got to eat better.
I've got to train harder."

734
00:47:58,959 --> 00:48:03,463
She did every possible thing she could
to live up to her talent.

735
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:06,049
Every possible thing.

736
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:11,471
But Nancy wasn't very nice
about me and to me to Martina,

737
00:48:11,555 --> 00:48:16,977
and she kind of brainwashed Martina
into, um, thinking that I was the enemy.

738
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:18,353
Well, she was.

739
00:48:19,104 --> 00:48:22,107
Chris was the enemy 'cause she was
number one and I was number two.

740
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:24,610
And she's the one that I had to beat
to get to number one.

741
00:48:25,110 --> 00:48:28,196
She would say,
"You can't be friends with Chrissie."

742
00:48:28,947 --> 00:48:30,365
"You need to hate her."

743
00:48:31,450 --> 00:48:34,202
She complains about Nancy
making Chris the enemy

744
00:48:34,286 --> 00:48:36,038
when she couldn't be friends with me.

745
00:48:36,538 --> 00:48:37,915
Five months later,

746
00:48:37,998 --> 00:48:41,209
she had transformed
into a completely different player.

747
00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:42,753
She was lean.

748
00:48:42,836 --> 00:48:44,880
She was streamlined.

749
00:48:44,963 --> 00:48:46,757
She was ripped.

750
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,012
She was fit, cardio was great,
shotmaking was great.

751
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:54,056
But Martina wasn't talking to me.

752
00:48:55,974 --> 00:48:59,811
The rivalry switched over
because Martina had gotten so much better.

753
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,900
And the friendship was deeply damaged.

754
00:49:05,692 --> 00:49:07,527
And Nancy assumes all the blame.

755
00:49:10,238 --> 00:49:11,657
She wanted that to happen.

756
00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:15,369
That was the goal,
and Martina agreed with it.

757
00:49:16,662 --> 00:49:19,289
I think I was influenced
too much by my girlfriends.

758
00:49:20,791 --> 00:49:24,086
I didn't know exactly how to deal with it,

759
00:49:24,169 --> 00:49:27,756
but I knew
that I needed to be a little more

760
00:49:28,715 --> 00:49:30,092
of a killer instinct.

761
00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:33,178
Maybe I just took it too far.

762
00:49:34,513 --> 00:49:37,182
And now Martina is the one
who starts to hurt Chrissie.

763
00:49:37,265 --> 00:49:39,476
And she starts to hurt her on the court.

764
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:41,603
And she starts to hurt her
in the locker room

765
00:49:41,687 --> 00:49:43,313
in the way that she treats her.

766
00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,899
They do some damage
to each other emotionally.

767
00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:49,486
You can see it in their faces
on the court.

768
00:49:49,569 --> 00:49:51,780
Chrissie hates Martina's body language.

769
00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:56,994
And you can see in Martina's face the fury

770
00:49:57,077 --> 00:50:00,497
when she thinks she might be letting
a match get away to Chrissie.

771
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:04,835
She just does everything
very well. She doesn't do anything great.

772
00:50:06,336 --> 00:50:10,382
1982 is a champagne season
for Martina Navratilova.

773
00:50:10,465 --> 00:50:13,635
Ranked number one in the world,
she has won 37 matches in a row,

774
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,596
including Wimbledon,
and is not lacking in confidence.

775
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,974
After Wimbledon,
Martina was quoted as saying

776
00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:22,477
that she wanted to be known as the best
women's tennis player in the world,

777
00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:24,896
which prompted Chris Evert Lloyd
to hit the roof.

778
00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:27,274
"What an insult to Billie Jean and me,"
Chris said,

779
00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:31,361
"who have each had careers
that were ten times better than hers."

780
00:50:31,445 --> 00:50:33,405
Everybody would always ask
the players about me,

781
00:50:33,488 --> 00:50:35,866
and now everyone's asking me about her.

782
00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:39,786
I think maybe she feels
that I'm getting a lot of attention.

783
00:50:39,870 --> 00:50:41,663
There's always jealousy at the top.

784
00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:45,876
Are you a better player than Chrissie?

785
00:50:46,418 --> 00:50:47,586
I think so.

786
00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:50,213
She probably would get in
an argument with me about that,

787
00:50:50,297 --> 00:50:53,341
but I think at my best,
I'm better than she is at her best.

788
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:03,560
When we were left alone in the locker room
during those tense, icy years,

789
00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:06,146
we would be very quiet towards each other.

790
00:51:06,229 --> 00:51:08,690
You know, there wouldn't--
We just wouldn't talk to each other.

791
00:51:08,774 --> 00:51:10,984
She would be on one side,
and I would be on… on the other.

792
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:12,819
First serve…

793
00:51:12,903 --> 00:51:15,989
It was the lowest of lows
in our relationship.

794
00:51:16,073 --> 00:51:17,240
Quiet, please.

795
00:51:17,949 --> 00:51:20,285
I came in kind of in the middle.

796
00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:21,453
I definitely remember

797
00:51:21,536 --> 00:51:25,665
Martina and Chrissie being
very tense around each other.

798
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:32,923
And the media was
definitely portraying them

799
00:51:33,006 --> 00:51:36,051
in a way
so they can actually fill the seats.

800
00:51:37,302 --> 00:51:41,473
To have those two,
the princess against the strong one,

801
00:51:42,724 --> 00:51:44,810
you couldn't ask for a better script.

802
00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:51,608
It put women's finals between
Chris and Martina on the must-see list.

803
00:51:54,236 --> 00:51:56,696
Martina won the US Open here in New York.

804
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,533
A week ago, Martina beat Chris again

805
00:51:59,616 --> 00:52:01,409
in the finals of the Australian Open.

806
00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:05,330
Chris, of course, had beaten Martina
a week earlier in yet another final.

807
00:52:05,413 --> 00:52:06,915
They were huge.

808
00:52:06,998 --> 00:52:10,377
People were covering women's tennis.
Didn't matter what tournament.

809
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:13,130
You know, the media decides
what to make of you, really,

810
00:52:13,213 --> 00:52:14,714
and they loved it.

811
00:52:15,882 --> 00:52:19,511
That was the first real rivalry

812
00:52:19,594 --> 00:52:21,596
that sparked that type of interest

813
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,432
and gave legitimacy to
the… the women's game.

814
00:52:24,516 --> 00:52:27,519
My first guest is one of the greatest
tennis players in the world,

815
00:52:27,602 --> 00:52:28,770
Chrissie Evert.

816
00:52:30,605 --> 00:52:35,068
But Chrissie was a huge celebrity
way past tennis.

817
00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,194
Chris Evert.

818
00:52:36,278 --> 00:52:37,154
Miss Chris Evert.

819
00:52:39,156 --> 00:52:42,200
I mean, Chrissie was embraced immediately.

820
00:52:42,784 --> 00:52:44,661
What about this welcome here tonight?

821
00:52:44,744 --> 00:52:45,954
Oh, I'm really excited.

822
00:52:46,037 --> 00:52:48,039
I really didn't expect
this big of a turnout,

823
00:52:48,123 --> 00:52:51,418
and I was kind of shocked
to see the band and everyone here.

824
00:52:52,878 --> 00:52:56,840
She's got a great off-court story
in a romance with Jimmy Connors.

825
00:52:56,923 --> 00:53:01,469
She's with great tennis players
and superstar actors.

826
00:53:01,970 --> 00:53:05,682
Then she married John Lloyd,
who was a great-looking guy.

827
00:53:06,391 --> 00:53:10,604
Chrissie was becoming bigger and bigger,
and it wasn't just sports page stuff.

828
00:53:11,813 --> 00:53:16,067
She started getting endorsement income
that was similar to the men.

829
00:53:16,151 --> 00:53:19,321
Mm. That's why I love
this Lipton iced tea mix.

830
00:53:19,404 --> 00:53:23,366
Tricot Mesh from Band-Aid brand
because it fits like your skin.

831
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:26,286
It stays on better,
and not just for tennis.

832
00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:28,663
How much money have you made?

833
00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:30,457
Well, that's a blunt question.

834
00:53:31,541 --> 00:53:34,211
My tennis earnings,
which is about seven million,

835
00:53:34,294 --> 00:53:36,296
a little over seven million dollars.

836
00:53:37,005 --> 00:53:39,799
In endorsements,
I've made that much, if not more.

837
00:53:40,884 --> 00:53:43,720
Chrissie was a good story.

838
00:53:43,803 --> 00:53:46,264
You know, the patriarchy likes this.

839
00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:47,641
There's no threat.

840
00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:56,024
The press,
they did not treat me the same way.

841
00:53:58,318 --> 00:54:00,320
I was under a different microscope.

842
00:54:02,364 --> 00:54:06,201
I was the, you know, "communist" girl
that lives in Beverly Hills.

843
00:54:07,535 --> 00:54:09,746
You know, they exaggerated everything.

844
00:54:11,873 --> 00:54:13,708
If I left my country,

845
00:54:13,792 --> 00:54:15,710
went somewhere
where I didn't know anybody,

846
00:54:15,794 --> 00:54:20,173
trusted people, got burned by friends,
got burned by the newspapers,

847
00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:23,051
you'd have
an inferiority complex yourself.

848
00:54:25,011 --> 00:54:28,223
And I had a hang-up
about my body and my looks,

849
00:54:28,807 --> 00:54:32,018
my veins, muscles, and strong face.

850
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,854
I wanted to not be judged

851
00:54:35,689 --> 00:54:38,024
for something that shouldn't be judged.

852
00:54:38,733 --> 00:54:40,819
She has helped the local economy of late,

853
00:54:40,902 --> 00:54:43,530
paying $34,000
to a local automobile dealer

854
00:54:43,613 --> 00:54:44,781
for a new Porsche.

855
00:54:44,864 --> 00:54:48,576
The American media portrays
Martina as voracious,

856
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:50,078
can't get enough jewelry,

857
00:54:50,161 --> 00:54:53,456
can't get enough fast cars,
can't get enough Americanism.

858
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,503
And then there becomes lots of fixation
on her life off the court.

859
00:54:59,546 --> 00:55:00,463
Martina!

860
00:55:00,547 --> 00:55:02,590
There have been stories about lesbianism

861
00:55:02,674 --> 00:55:04,050
on the women's tennis circuit,

862
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:07,387
and Martina has been the focus
of some of those stories.

863
00:55:07,971 --> 00:55:12,726
Over the years,
the press would ask me if I was gay,

864
00:55:12,809 --> 00:55:15,395
or they would ask
if there were lesbians on the tour.

865
00:55:19,774 --> 00:55:22,944
And at the time, I was in a relationship
with Nancy Lieberman,

866
00:55:23,028 --> 00:55:25,613
who was in the closet
and who couldn't come out,

867
00:55:25,697 --> 00:55:27,699
so we were pretending
we were just friends,

868
00:55:27,782 --> 00:55:29,617
and I was protecting the tour.

869
00:55:29,701 --> 00:55:30,827
I'm playing tennis right now.

870
00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:32,871
The only thing you're concerned about.

871
00:55:32,954 --> 00:55:35,290
That's the only thing
I'm concerned about, talking about.

872
00:55:36,166 --> 00:55:39,252
There's a New York Times article
from around the period that declares

873
00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:42,714
that homosexuality in sports is
a more controversial issue

874
00:55:42,797 --> 00:55:44,174
than drugs or crime.

875
00:55:44,841 --> 00:55:49,429
And the tennis tour sponsors
have become very, very nervous

876
00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:52,932
by the specter of homosexuality
on the women's tennis tour.

877
00:55:54,351 --> 00:55:56,061
It was an awkward time.

878
00:55:56,144 --> 00:56:00,857
There were kind of messy,
headline-grabbing media outlets

879
00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:03,068
that wanted to have more information.

880
00:56:03,818 --> 00:56:06,863
Everybody on tour knew
Martina had girlfriends

881
00:56:06,946 --> 00:56:08,531
and identified as gay.

882
00:56:08,615 --> 00:56:11,242
It wasn't a big deal,
but it was a big deal

883
00:56:11,826 --> 00:56:13,328
to come out publicly.

884
00:56:15,663 --> 00:56:17,082
Actually, I didn't decide.

885
00:56:17,165 --> 00:56:19,459
It was decided for me
by a… by a journalist

886
00:56:19,542 --> 00:56:22,670
who, uh, had wanted
to talk about my sexuality.

887
00:56:23,254 --> 00:56:26,299
I just didn't think it was anybody's
business to talk about who you love.

888
00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:31,054
Steve Goldstein,
who wrote for the New York Daily News,

889
00:56:31,137 --> 00:56:32,430
claimed that I okayed it.

890
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:36,017
I never okayed it
to write this story about my sexuality.

891
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:38,895
And also, I didn't come out as bisexual.

892
00:56:38,978 --> 00:56:44,442
I was gay, but it was more acceptable
to be bisexual than being gay.

893
00:56:44,943 --> 00:56:47,695
Bisexual, that was always our kind of…

894
00:56:50,031 --> 00:56:50,865
backup thing.

895
00:56:53,076 --> 00:56:55,912
In 1981, I was outed also.

896
00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:59,457
People have no idea what it was like.
It was terrible.

897
00:56:59,541 --> 00:57:01,876
They do not ask male athletes,

898
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,213
who they know that are gay,
they do not ask them that question,

899
00:57:05,296 --> 00:57:08,591
but women athletes are
a prime target for that question.

900
00:57:09,968 --> 00:57:11,886
There becomes this real obsession with,

901
00:57:11,970 --> 00:57:13,680
"Who's Martina with now?"

902
00:57:14,514 --> 00:57:17,392
One of the ways she dealt with it was
by putting them in her box

903
00:57:17,475 --> 00:57:19,227
so that the tabloids wanted a picture,

904
00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:22,230
they could just go out to center court
and take the picture.

905
00:57:23,398 --> 00:57:26,901
Martina dealt with the outness
by being even more out.

906
00:57:26,985 --> 00:57:29,028
An overjoyed Martina Navratilova

907
00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:32,240
going into the stands to celebrate
with her good friend Judy Nelson.

908
00:57:33,741 --> 00:57:35,952
Martina had a lot of girlfriends.

909
00:57:36,035 --> 00:57:37,412
More than your average.

910
00:57:37,912 --> 00:57:39,247
A lot of girlfriends.

911
00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:41,666
Did you ever live alone?

912
00:57:42,250 --> 00:57:44,461
I was single there
for a couple of years here and there,

913
00:57:44,544 --> 00:57:47,839
but overall, um, I was with somebody.

914
00:57:47,922 --> 00:57:51,593
I-- You know, I did not like to be alone.
I didn't have family to come home to.

915
00:57:51,676 --> 00:57:54,762
-Right.
-So maybe that's why I was more dependent

916
00:57:54,846 --> 00:57:59,100
on the… on the girlfriend to getting
that love and support and… and "home."

917
00:57:59,684 --> 00:58:02,270
I didn't have kids, I didn't get married.
You couldn't get married.

918
00:58:02,353 --> 00:58:06,566
You didn't care what anybody thought,
and, um, I admired that very, very much.

919
00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:08,693
Because I could speak whatever I wanted.

920
00:58:08,776 --> 00:58:11,738
There were no sponsors that could tell me,
"No, you can't say that."

921
00:58:11,821 --> 00:58:13,948
And I just remember my agent telling me

922
00:58:14,032 --> 00:58:17,994
when he was at-- with Madison Avenue
with the advertisers,

923
00:58:18,077 --> 00:58:20,038
and they were talking,
pitching… pitching ideas.

924
00:58:20,121 --> 00:58:22,457
And they're pitching ideas for you,
and they would be like,

925
00:58:22,540 --> 00:58:24,042
"Yes, this and this and this."

926
00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:26,586
And when he said,
"How… how about Martina doing this?"

927
00:58:26,669 --> 00:58:28,630
And the room was just silent.

928
00:58:28,713 --> 00:58:34,135
I was maybe jealous or envious of that,
uh, but I couldn't change who I was.

929
00:58:34,219 --> 00:58:38,014
On-- On the-- On the court is one thing,
but off the court is popularity

930
00:58:38,097 --> 00:58:40,391
because you were
the perfect girl next door.

931
00:58:40,475 --> 00:58:42,268
That's how they were talking about you.

932
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:45,104
The girl next door,
the girl that you want your son to marry.

933
00:58:45,188 --> 00:58:47,607
They certainly didn't write that about me.

934
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:49,734
So I think I just gave up
at the end of the day.

935
00:58:51,444 --> 00:58:54,614
But I'm like, "Oh, I'm just
gonna let my racket do the talking."

936
00:58:59,285 --> 00:59:00,161
Game.

937
00:59:02,330 --> 00:59:04,749
The number one. Martina Navratilova.

938
00:59:04,832 --> 00:59:07,418
Martina Navratilova on a roll.

939
00:59:07,502 --> 00:59:08,670
Just looked overpowering…

940
00:59:08,753 --> 00:59:11,464
Martina Navratilova
required just 50 minutes today

941
00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:12,590
to crush Bettina Bunge.

942
00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:14,592
She destroyed Beverly Mould 6-1, 6-1.

943
00:59:14,676 --> 00:59:17,053
Overwhelmed Andrea Jaeger.

944
00:59:17,136 --> 00:59:21,057
When Martina Navratilova is
at the top of her game, forget it.

945
00:59:22,642 --> 00:59:24,602
People were used to seeing ladylike women

946
00:59:24,686 --> 00:59:26,479
in these dresses like pinafores, you know,

947
00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:29,399
hitting long rallies from the baseline,
and here comes Martina.

948
00:59:29,482 --> 00:59:32,694
It's like,
slash, slash, mark of Zorro, you're out.

949
00:59:39,492 --> 00:59:40,326
Game.

950
00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:44,622
Martina has won
19 straight matches this year

951
00:59:44,706 --> 00:59:46,082
and four straight tournaments.

952
00:59:46,165 --> 00:59:48,126
Martina was overtaking everybody.

953
00:59:49,961 --> 00:59:51,462
As a player, you're trying to get

954
00:59:51,546 --> 00:59:54,841
as many games as you can get
because you don't wanna be embarrassed.

955
00:59:55,341 --> 00:59:56,426
That's it.

956
00:59:56,509 --> 00:59:57,343
Game.

957
00:59:58,886 --> 01:00:02,557
Is it different, Chris,
being the hunter rather than the hunted?

958
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,309
I've been in both positions.

959
01:00:04,392 --> 01:00:07,312
I mean, a thousand women are hunting me,
and I'm hunting one woman.

960
01:00:07,395 --> 01:00:10,773
She proves again that she is number one.

961
01:00:10,857 --> 01:00:13,192
She has now won 49 straight matches.

962
01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:16,112
Some say she's bad for women's tennis.
Martina says no.

963
01:00:16,195 --> 01:00:19,449
Well, I think that's a bunch of baloney
because the players know

964
01:00:19,532 --> 01:00:21,200
that they have to get better to catch up,

965
01:00:21,284 --> 01:00:24,454
so it's gonna do nothing
but raise the level of women's tennis.

966
01:00:24,537 --> 01:00:26,497
I mean, at her peak, Chrissie has trouble

967
01:00:26,581 --> 01:00:28,458
taking a couple of games off her in a set.

968
01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:30,543
It was so abbreviating,
this style of play.

969
01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,422
She did everything better than I did.

970
01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:39,052
She's beating me on clay then.
That was my surface I always beat her on.

971
01:00:40,428 --> 01:00:44,474
I had no chance to beat her on any surface
if I can't beat her on clay.

972
01:00:45,183 --> 01:00:47,018
Martina Navratilova.

973
01:00:47,101 --> 01:00:50,647
I've won everything
at least once, but the problem is

974
01:00:50,730 --> 01:00:52,774
on-- once you win it once,
you wanna win it again.

975
01:00:52,857 --> 01:00:55,068
I try the best that I can
every time I go on the court,

976
01:00:55,151 --> 01:00:57,403
but I know
that I still haven't reached my potential,

977
01:00:57,487 --> 01:00:59,072
so that's what I'm aiming for.

978
01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:05,203
So a tremendous victory for Martina.

979
01:01:06,162 --> 01:01:08,956
And a great hand for Chris Lloyd.

980
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,086
Played beautifully today,
but playing against a girl who I think,

981
01:01:13,961 --> 01:01:18,675
arguably, might be considered
the best lady player we've ever seen.

982
01:01:26,265 --> 01:01:27,433
Well, you heard…

983
01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:31,396
Chris being the princess,
being the darling, losing the shine

984
01:01:31,479 --> 01:01:32,855
in the midst of the moment…

985
01:01:32,939 --> 01:01:34,691
Everyone's looking at you.

986
01:01:35,191 --> 01:01:36,734
You know, that's a lot of pressure.

987
01:01:38,152 --> 01:01:40,279
She'd taken over the tennis world.

988
01:01:40,363 --> 01:01:41,698
Nobody could beat her.

989
01:01:41,781 --> 01:01:43,366
She had an answer for everything.

990
01:01:44,325 --> 01:01:47,704
By the summer of 1984, I was the underdog.

991
01:01:50,748 --> 01:01:52,125
'84 US Open final

992
01:01:52,208 --> 01:01:55,962
on that famous Super Saturday,
September 8, 1984,

993
01:01:56,045 --> 01:01:58,631
may be the greatest day in tennis history.

994
01:01:59,799 --> 01:02:02,719
The atmosphere was very highly charged.

995
01:02:03,219 --> 01:02:04,512
Well, we're gonna look at

996
01:02:04,595 --> 01:02:07,223
Chris Evert Lloyd take on
Martina Navratilova

997
01:02:07,306 --> 01:02:09,475
for the 61st time in just a minute.

998
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:12,061
I think it's gonna be
different from a year ago.

999
01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:13,354
Martina won easily.

1000
01:02:13,438 --> 01:02:17,400
Chris, on the other hand, this year
she is trying to close the gap again.

1001
01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:21,654
I felt like I was right there
with her, right there,

1002
01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:26,242
and hard courts, the US Open,
were going to favor my game

1003
01:02:26,325 --> 01:02:29,162
maybe a little,
a touch more than her game.

1004
01:02:31,956 --> 01:02:34,459
Here we go. Chris Evert Lloyd to serve.

1005
01:02:45,344 --> 01:02:47,597
Best first serve
and the best second serve.

1006
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,848
I agree.

1007
01:02:48,931 --> 01:02:50,933
Ooh.

1008
01:02:58,941 --> 01:03:02,153
I think Chris is moving
as well as I've ever seen her move.

1009
01:03:06,908 --> 01:03:10,369
She played so damn aggressively
to take the opening set,

1010
01:03:10,453 --> 01:03:11,996
and the joint was going nuts.

1011
01:03:13,331 --> 01:03:16,459
Game and first set, Evert Lloyd, 6-4.

1012
01:03:17,710 --> 01:03:21,005
Chris gets
the single greatest ovation she ever got

1013
01:03:21,088 --> 01:03:25,843
because people think they're gonna see
Chris Evert's comeback complete that day.

1014
01:03:37,939 --> 01:03:40,066
Chris seems really delicate
and all this, like…

1015
01:03:40,149 --> 01:03:44,111
When you see this little fist go,
you better watch out.

1016
01:03:58,876 --> 01:04:02,630
The crowd was against me
like crazy. They want me to lose.

1017
01:04:06,425 --> 01:04:08,970
I don't know how much of it
had to do with me being gay

1018
01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:12,139
or being from a communist country,
not being "real American."

1019
01:04:12,682 --> 01:04:14,392
The umpire asking for quiet.

1020
01:04:14,475 --> 01:04:17,019
They rooted for Martina
when she played other people.

1021
01:04:17,103 --> 01:04:19,772
They weren't gonna root for her
against Chrissie. That is a given.

1022
01:04:21,274 --> 01:04:24,735
To be able to play to your best

1023
01:04:24,819 --> 01:04:28,072
when the going gets tough
and the tension is at its highest…

1024
01:04:29,949 --> 01:04:32,118
But I feel like Martina had to
deal with it

1025
01:04:32,201 --> 01:04:34,537
more than almost any other player.

1026
01:04:41,294 --> 01:04:42,378
Thirty all.

1027
01:04:43,838 --> 01:04:46,549
Martina's gonna get
herself in trouble with this crowd

1028
01:04:46,632 --> 01:04:49,510
if she keeps mimicking
and begging 'em for applause and stuff.

1029
01:04:49,594 --> 01:04:52,430
It was the hardest match
I think I ever had to play.

1030
01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:56,642
You know, I'm American. I'm a good person.

1031
01:04:57,143 --> 01:04:58,936
And you guys are hating on me.

1032
01:05:00,021 --> 01:05:01,689
They had grown up with me.

1033
01:05:02,940 --> 01:05:07,570
You know, these were New York fans
that I saw since I'd been 16 years old.

1034
01:05:07,653 --> 01:05:09,488
I was kind of their Chrissie,

1035
01:05:09,572 --> 01:05:11,908
and in their minds,

1036
01:05:12,491 --> 01:05:14,076
Martina was like a bully.

1037
01:05:22,168 --> 01:05:24,795
-Game, Navratilova.
-Rolled through that game.

1038
01:05:24,879 --> 01:05:27,965
They were on a knife blade,
and it was gonna be who took the risk.

1039
01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:34,347
If Martina starts
getting ignited, she's ready to roll.

1040
01:05:35,222 --> 01:05:36,724
That's just too good.

1041
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,772
Game and second set…

1042
01:05:42,855 --> 01:05:44,398
Martina, she got on with it.

1043
01:05:47,652 --> 01:05:48,569
Out!

1044
01:05:55,159 --> 01:05:56,744
She's said one more game.

1045
01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:58,704
She's saying four more points.

1046
01:06:05,586 --> 01:06:08,381
-40-15.
-Double match point.

1047
01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,050
Couldn't get more dramatic than this.

1048
01:06:19,642 --> 01:06:21,102
Just can't get to it.

1049
01:06:22,478 --> 01:06:24,188
Martina Navratilova.

1050
01:06:25,064 --> 01:06:26,023
Sorry.

1051
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:31,779
That, of course, is
Martina's coach, Mike Estep.

1052
01:06:32,446 --> 01:06:34,156
Those are tears of joy.

1053
01:06:35,282 --> 01:06:38,035
They were not tears of joy.
They were tears of relief.

1054
01:06:38,744 --> 01:06:39,787
And sadness.

1055
01:06:40,746 --> 01:06:44,709
It's kind of hard to sound sane
at this moment, so just thanks, everybody.

1056
01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:47,420
Thank you, Mike,
and all the people over there in the box.

1057
01:06:47,503 --> 01:06:50,006
They were cheering,
and thank you all. Thanks.

1058
01:06:52,883 --> 01:06:55,136
Yeah, Chrissie, we love you!

1059
01:07:04,437 --> 01:07:07,064
I was devastated when I lost that match.

1060
01:07:08,107 --> 01:07:12,903
At that point, I recognized that
she's a better tennis player than me now.

1061
01:07:12,987 --> 01:07:16,449
I always knew she was a better athlete,
but now she's a better tennis player.

1062
01:07:21,662 --> 01:07:23,706
I was relieved that I won,

1063
01:07:23,789 --> 01:07:28,502
and I was sad
that the crowd was so much against me.

1064
01:07:31,297 --> 01:07:33,549
It was hard to not take it personally.

1065
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,849
Being an athlete,
when you're at the top, you are alone.

1066
01:07:43,601 --> 01:07:45,728
Psychologists can tell you
how to deal with pressure,

1067
01:07:45,811 --> 01:07:47,146
but they've never been there.

1068
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:51,400
Only top champions understand.

1069
01:07:59,408 --> 01:08:00,576
Hello!

1070
01:08:01,410 --> 01:08:03,412
Hi, Lulu!

1071
01:08:03,496 --> 01:08:04,914
How are you?

1072
01:08:04,997 --> 01:08:07,500
Come right in, Lulu.
Make yourself at home.

1073
01:08:07,583 --> 01:08:10,878
-COVID test. Negative.
-Thank you. That was very…

1074
01:08:10,961 --> 01:08:12,213
-How are you?
-Hi.

1075
01:08:12,296 --> 01:08:13,881
Mmm.

1076
01:08:13,964 --> 01:08:15,591
I think I'm better than you are.

1077
01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:18,010
-You bring--? You brought food.
-Julia made soup again.

1078
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,930
-Your hair's getting long.
-I always thought I had shitty hair.

1079
01:08:21,013 --> 01:08:23,015
Then when I see pictures of me
when I was, like, 30,

1080
01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:25,309
I'm like, "Oh my God, I had so much hair."

1081
01:08:25,392 --> 01:08:26,811
Is your nausea gone?

1082
01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:28,437
Fatigue is like,

1083
01:08:28,521 --> 01:08:30,773
okay, my body is not my own right now.

1084
01:08:30,856 --> 01:08:32,191
-Right.
-And I feel like I c--

1085
01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:34,568
I feel like it--
I don't have control over it.

1086
01:08:34,652 --> 01:08:38,322
I was watching some of the tennis on TV,
and these young athletes,

1087
01:08:38,405 --> 01:08:40,116
they're so fit,

1088
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:41,283
and they're so strong,

1089
01:08:41,367 --> 01:08:44,703
and they have so much energy,
and they're sweating and…

1090
01:08:44,787 --> 01:08:46,705
-That was us!
-That was us, yeah.

1091
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:48,457
-But I'm like--
-But it's not now!

1092
01:08:48,541 --> 01:08:49,416
I know.

1093
01:08:50,543 --> 01:08:52,545
Have you started to play tennis yet?

1094
01:08:52,628 --> 01:08:56,298
-It's not on my bucket list.
-Bucket list. No, I know. I know.

1095
01:08:56,382 --> 01:08:58,634
Um, right now on the bucket list,
it's walking.

1096
01:08:58,717 --> 01:09:00,219
It's just walking.

1097
01:09:00,302 --> 01:09:02,429
I mean, I remember skiing with you.

1098
01:09:02,513 --> 01:09:03,430
We've gotta do that.

1099
01:09:03,514 --> 01:09:06,475
That is on my bucket list,
to go skiing with you one more time.

1100
01:09:06,559 --> 01:09:08,686
Well, you're gonna have to go
like five miles an hour…

1101
01:09:08,769 --> 01:09:10,312
-That's okay.
-…to keep up with me.

1102
01:09:10,396 --> 01:09:13,190
-Just--
-We should do another SNL skit about…

1103
01:09:13,691 --> 01:09:16,277
-I mean-- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
-…how competitive we are.

1104
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,280
You took the sissy way up.
I climbed up right through the middle.

1105
01:09:21,699 --> 01:09:25,536
-Listen, Martina, I think we have to talk.
-You can't psych me out, Chris.

1106
01:09:25,619 --> 01:09:29,123
Look, I don't wanna psych you out.
I came here to get away from that.

1107
01:09:29,206 --> 01:09:31,041
You're never gonna beat me
with this attitude.

1108
01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:33,377
"This is not the competition
I signed up for."

1109
01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:35,671
"I lost my hair."

1110
01:09:35,754 --> 01:09:37,214
"I lost my hair too."

1111
01:09:37,298 --> 01:09:38,757
"I'm… nauseous."

1112
01:09:38,841 --> 01:09:39,842
"I lost 20 pounds."

1113
01:09:39,925 --> 01:09:41,427
-"I lost 30!"
-"I lost 30!"

1114
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:48,142
Emotionally, is it worse for you now
knowing what's coming

1115
01:09:48,225 --> 01:09:49,935
because you've been there before?

1116
01:09:50,019 --> 01:09:51,812
You've got to play games with your mind.

1117
01:09:51,896 --> 01:09:55,316
Like, "The next one's the third one.
I'm halfway there after the third one."

1118
01:09:55,399 --> 01:09:56,233
Yeah.

1119
01:09:56,317 --> 01:09:59,820
I was counting all the time.
Five down, 30 to go.

1120
01:09:59,904 --> 01:10:01,447
Six down, 29 to go.

1121
01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:03,908
I was literally counting down
every single time.

1122
01:10:03,991 --> 01:10:05,784
So you have to because it's a goal.

1123
01:10:05,868 --> 01:10:07,244
-We're so goal-oriented.
-Yeah.

1124
01:10:07,328 --> 01:10:09,455
I think you have to see
the end of the road.

1125
01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:12,708
-Okay. So…
-All right. Come here.

1126
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:17,379
You'll be all right.

1127
01:10:17,463 --> 01:10:18,839
Oh, it's so pretty today.

1128
01:10:21,091 --> 01:10:22,134
Bye, superstar.

1129
01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:24,053
Adios, amiga.

1130
01:10:27,014 --> 01:10:29,350
-I mean, I… I'm complaining about…
-Both you guys.

1131
01:10:29,433 --> 01:10:31,727
…feeling awful
for three days out of three weeks,

1132
01:10:31,810 --> 01:10:35,648
and she had 35 days
where she was nauseous and had headaches.

1133
01:10:35,731 --> 01:10:36,607
Was it?

1134
01:10:36,690 --> 01:10:40,361
She had 35 days. Oh my God. I just…

1135
01:10:40,444 --> 01:10:42,488
My eyes are more open than ever.

1136
01:10:43,113 --> 01:10:45,241
Just so inspiring to me.

1137
01:10:45,324 --> 01:10:48,410
And… and thinking about
her journey with cancer

1138
01:10:48,494 --> 01:10:50,537
really helps me with my journey.

1139
01:10:52,414 --> 01:10:53,540
Somebody said this,

1140
01:10:53,624 --> 01:10:56,919
and I-- I really should've looked up
the quote 'cause I just love it.

1141
01:10:57,002 --> 01:11:01,840
But "sometimes the worst thing to be
in America is second best in the world."

1142
01:11:02,341 --> 01:11:04,051
Do you-- Do you find that to be the case?

1143
01:11:04,134 --> 01:11:07,972
Or are you fairly comfortable with…
with being second best in the world?

1144
01:11:08,055 --> 01:11:10,474
Well, I… I have to be comfortable with it

1145
01:11:10,557 --> 01:11:13,352
because I've been number two
for three years now.

1146
01:11:13,435 --> 01:11:16,355
It had been pretty tumultuous off-court
for Chrissie.

1147
01:11:17,773 --> 01:11:21,068
She had separated from John Lloyd,
and that marriage was over.

1148
01:11:23,195 --> 01:11:27,324
My happiness was based on
if I won or lost that particular day.

1149
01:11:29,326 --> 01:11:32,413
I just didn't have
enough left over for him.

1150
01:11:36,125 --> 01:11:40,921
I wasn't about to sacrifice my career
to remain in a marriage.

1151
01:11:44,174 --> 01:11:47,553
Everything comes with a price,
and I wanted to win.

1152
01:11:49,763 --> 01:11:53,475
But deep in my heart,
with Martina playing the way she was,

1153
01:11:53,559 --> 01:11:56,395
I didn't know
if I could win another major.

1154
01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:01,191
Martina had so dominated her
for a couple of years.

1155
01:12:02,026 --> 01:12:03,986
A couple of years.

1156
01:12:05,487 --> 01:12:07,948
At a certain point, don't you think,
"All right, you know what?"

1157
01:12:08,782 --> 01:12:12,328
"This chick is really good." You know?
"Maybe I-- Maybe I can't do it anymore."

1158
01:12:12,411 --> 01:12:14,955
Chrissie really realized
she had to look in the mirror and say,

1159
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:20,419
"Well, what can I do to try and thwart
this runaway train that was Martina?"

1160
01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:23,630
Now, not everyone can have
a body like this.

1161
01:12:23,714 --> 01:12:27,509
In fact, I'm told some women
and some men would give their arms

1162
01:12:27,593 --> 01:12:28,594
to have these legs.

1163
01:12:29,470 --> 01:12:32,431
Martina is like 7% body fat,

1164
01:12:32,514 --> 01:12:35,893
is working out
four hours a day, cross-training.

1165
01:12:35,976 --> 01:12:38,645
Let's get to work
on these gorgeous bodies of ours.

1166
01:12:38,729 --> 01:12:41,440
And Chrissie, in order to catch her,
has to do the same.

1167
01:12:42,024 --> 01:12:45,069
It's not enough anymore just to practice
three or four hours a day

1168
01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:46,695
on the tennis court.

1169
01:12:46,779 --> 01:12:48,697
Chrissie had to do more

1170
01:12:48,781 --> 01:12:51,033
and get better and try different things,

1171
01:12:51,116 --> 01:12:52,493
try to adapt her game.

1172
01:12:53,994 --> 01:12:56,747
She figured out
how to get stronger, how to get faster,

1173
01:12:56,830 --> 01:12:58,457
how to bring net play more.

1174
01:12:59,458 --> 01:13:01,585
I did everything that she did

1175
01:13:02,503 --> 01:13:03,504
with the exception,

1176
01:13:03,587 --> 01:13:06,799
her weight was 35 pounds,
and my weight was 15 pounds.

1177
01:13:07,633 --> 01:13:11,345
My coach at the time was telling me,
"You gotta go to the net."

1178
01:13:11,845 --> 01:13:14,264
"You're just playing your game,
and she's beating you."

1179
01:13:14,348 --> 01:13:15,891
"You've got to change something."

1180
01:13:16,934 --> 01:13:19,269
How do you look forward
to playing Martina again?

1181
01:13:19,353 --> 01:13:21,730
Every time I practice,
in the back of my mind,

1182
01:13:21,814 --> 01:13:25,234
I'll be practicing shots
that hopefully I'll use against her.

1183
01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:32,950
The championship of the French Open.

1184
01:13:33,033 --> 01:13:34,952
Martina Navratilova, Chris Evert Lloyd.

1185
01:13:35,035 --> 01:13:38,205
This will be the 65th time
they've met in their careers.

1186
01:13:38,288 --> 01:13:40,374
This rivalry just goes on and on.

1187
01:13:40,457 --> 01:13:42,543
Thirteen years, it's extraordinary.

1188
01:13:42,626 --> 01:13:45,379
And the margin is narrower
than my girlfriend's mind.

1189
01:13:45,462 --> 01:13:46,338
-Wow!
-What?!

1190
01:13:46,422 --> 01:13:48,215
…31 for Navratilova.

1191
01:13:51,885 --> 01:13:54,388
I always felt like you were giving me
dirty looks across the net,

1192
01:13:54,471 --> 01:13:56,140
but I know you--
I know you say you weren't.

1193
01:13:56,223 --> 01:13:57,057
It's so not that.

1194
01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:04,398
The first game is important. So important.

1195
01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:07,526
That's wide.

1196
01:14:09,862 --> 01:14:12,114
Martina is playing it very safe,

1197
01:14:12,197 --> 01:14:16,994
whereas Chris is going for the lines,
which is a role reversal.

1198
01:14:19,121 --> 01:14:21,373
I was feeling more and more confident
coming into the net,

1199
01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:23,876
and I wanted
to take that game away from you.

1200
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:30,632
Good shot.

1201
01:14:35,053 --> 01:14:36,305
Oh my gosh!

1202
01:14:36,805 --> 01:14:39,433
Look, did you see that bounce? Oh my God!

1203
01:14:44,897 --> 01:14:45,981
Backhand!

1204
01:14:46,064 --> 01:14:47,566
That was a hell of a backhand.

1205
01:14:55,365 --> 01:14:56,575
What a game.

1206
01:14:56,658 --> 01:15:00,120
Match point, Chris Evert Lloyd.

1207
01:15:00,621 --> 01:15:01,830
Okay, here we go.

1208
01:15:01,914 --> 01:15:04,082
This is important. Be quiet.

1209
01:15:11,882 --> 01:15:12,883
Yes!

1210
01:15:24,645 --> 01:15:27,940
That's the most emotional
I've ever been in winning a match.

1211
01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:33,779
Nobody thought I'd win a major again.

1212
01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:36,281
I kept hearing that over and over,
I was over the hill.

1213
01:15:36,365 --> 01:15:38,492
-It gets tiring.
-And I just…

1214
01:15:38,575 --> 01:15:41,328
-Yeah.
-I worked hard, and I still had it.

1215
01:15:41,411 --> 01:15:43,664
That was probably one
of the toughest matches

1216
01:15:43,747 --> 01:15:45,916
I think that I've ever had to play,

1217
01:15:45,999 --> 01:15:48,835
and I'd like to just say
something to Martina.

1218
01:15:48,919 --> 01:15:50,712
She really was a great sport out there,

1219
01:15:50,796 --> 01:15:53,131
and she's still number one
and a great champion,

1220
01:15:53,215 --> 01:15:55,968
so that makes it that much more thrilling
for me to beat her.

1221
01:15:56,510 --> 01:16:00,305
To see those two push each other
to get better

1222
01:16:01,181 --> 01:16:02,599
and make sacrifices

1223
01:16:02,683 --> 01:16:06,061
so that they could try and have
another win over the other person.

1224
01:16:06,728 --> 01:16:07,980
It was painful

1225
01:16:08,063 --> 01:16:10,524
because it shut a lot of us out
of winning majors,

1226
01:16:10,607 --> 01:16:12,776
but it was also beautiful to watch.

1227
01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:15,320
The verdict seemed almost in

1228
01:16:15,404 --> 01:16:20,701
that Chris Evert was gonna go down as
kind of great, but less than Martina.

1229
01:16:20,784 --> 01:16:24,288
For Chris Evert to come back
and win the '85 French Open,

1230
01:16:24,871 --> 01:16:26,123
and by the end of the year,

1231
01:16:26,206 --> 01:16:28,667
she regains
the number one ranking briefly,

1232
01:16:28,750 --> 01:16:32,170
and then to come back
and win another French Open in '86,

1233
01:16:32,671 --> 01:16:34,548
it really completed her.

1234
01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:39,970
Well, they call it
the greatest rivalry in women's tennis.

1235
01:16:40,053 --> 01:16:42,556
Some people feel it's even more than that.

1236
01:16:52,941 --> 01:16:55,652
Now I have to take this for the CAT scan.

1237
01:16:57,946 --> 01:16:58,822
Go for it.

1238
01:17:05,203 --> 01:17:06,538
That's disgusting.

1239
01:17:21,178 --> 01:17:25,098
I think that I had
a lot more discipline in my career

1240
01:17:25,182 --> 01:17:27,059
than I did in my personal life.

1241
01:17:28,894 --> 01:17:31,605
I mean, I've been married and divorced
three times.

1242
01:17:33,065 --> 01:17:35,317
I learned a lot of hard lessons.

1243
01:17:37,736 --> 01:17:41,698
And when you've had cancer,
you rethink your priorities,

1244
01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:45,619
and my priorities are
my three boys and my grandson.

1245
01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:48,080
People are my priority.

1246
01:17:48,163 --> 01:17:49,247
You're gonna do great.

1247
01:17:51,124 --> 01:17:53,043
-Christine Evert.
-Oh.

1248
01:17:53,126 --> 01:17:54,544
It kills me to hear my name.

1249
01:17:55,045 --> 01:17:56,630
-Good luck.
-Okay.

1250
01:18:01,301 --> 01:18:04,429
Much better. 148 over 81, okay?

1251
01:18:04,513 --> 01:18:07,683
Do you have any treatment today?
Any IV, injections, or just…?

1252
01:18:07,766 --> 01:18:09,768
Yeah, I'm doing a PET scan.

1253
01:18:10,811 --> 01:18:13,480
I guess I'm more nervous
than I thought I was.

1254
01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:16,692
Okay, Martina.

1255
01:18:19,903 --> 01:18:22,781
This is when
I wish I had Martina Navratilova's veins

1256
01:18:22,864 --> 01:18:25,033
because they just pop.

1257
01:18:25,784 --> 01:18:26,952
I'm so jealous.

1258
01:18:31,623 --> 01:18:34,376
-We need one more.
-We still have to do one more?

1259
01:18:34,459 --> 01:18:36,169
-Yeah.
-Shoot.

1260
01:18:36,253 --> 01:18:37,295
One more.

1261
01:18:37,796 --> 01:18:40,924
So once I'm done placing
this IV, I'm gonna step out.

1262
01:18:41,007 --> 01:18:44,052
I'm gonna let one of the techs know
that you are ready.

1263
01:18:44,136 --> 01:18:45,929
They'll come and do the injection.

1264
01:18:46,012 --> 01:18:48,056
You'll sit in here for about an hour.

1265
01:18:48,140 --> 01:18:51,143
-Can I go out there or do I stay here?
-No, because you're radioactive, so…

1266
01:18:51,226 --> 01:18:52,102
Oh.

1267
01:18:54,312 --> 01:18:57,816
Since cancer,
I've just kind of cut the riffraff out.

1268
01:18:59,317 --> 01:19:01,236
I'd rather be alone

1269
01:19:01,862 --> 01:19:04,406
than with people
that I don't wanna be with.

1270
01:19:06,199 --> 01:19:11,204
You pick your spots much more carefully
because you realize how precious time is.

1271
01:19:12,914 --> 01:19:14,791
You're gonna lie down on your back

1272
01:19:14,875 --> 01:19:18,044
with your head placed right over here
and your bottom placed right over here.

1273
01:19:18,128 --> 01:19:21,339
-Okay, I have no jewelry on, right?
-Perfect. Yes.

1274
01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:24,843
-You know what? I'll just take this off.
-You want to take off the hat. Okay.

1275
01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:27,387
This is kind of burdensome.

1276
01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:29,181
-Okay.
-There we go.

1277
01:19:30,599 --> 01:19:34,728
I'm having a CT scan
of my pelvic area and my chest area

1278
01:19:34,811 --> 01:19:37,564
to see if there's any cancer there.

1279
01:19:39,065 --> 01:19:41,276
Right now,
I'm, like, a little bit stressed.

1280
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:42,444
A lot going on.

1281
01:19:43,445 --> 01:19:46,823
I think anticipation
and waiting for that phone call.

1282
01:19:46,907 --> 01:19:49,409
Hopefully it's good news.
That's all I can say.

1283
01:19:50,619 --> 01:19:53,413
All right, I'm gonna start
that injection of the contrast.

1284
01:19:53,497 --> 01:19:57,000
Remember, warm flush feeling
going through your body is normal.

1285
01:19:57,584 --> 01:19:58,668
Lie there.

1286
01:19:59,753 --> 01:20:01,713
Actually, I'll take my shoes off.

1287
01:20:06,051 --> 01:20:10,263
The test is to see
if the tumor is gone from my throat.

1288
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,393
The wait till you get the answer,
one way or the other,

1289
01:20:15,477 --> 01:20:18,772
every second is-- feels like an eternity…

1290
01:20:21,149 --> 01:20:23,193
till you get the A-OK.

1291
01:20:29,574 --> 01:20:32,994
Martina Navratilova is
a very famous Czechoslovakian athlete

1292
01:20:33,078 --> 01:20:36,790
who defected from the Soviet Bloc
and has now gone home for a visit.

1293
01:20:37,916 --> 01:20:41,837
She has gone back to Czechoslovakia
to play tennis for America.

1294
01:20:42,838 --> 01:20:46,383
For the Federation Cup,
the international women's competition

1295
01:20:46,466 --> 01:20:50,595
that had moved the Czech government
to grant the expatriate a visa.

1296
01:20:52,013 --> 01:20:55,100
By 1980, I had seen my parents
outside of the country.

1297
01:20:57,269 --> 01:21:01,189
But I had not been back
to Czechoslovakia since '75.

1298
01:21:02,941 --> 01:21:07,487
And I wasn't planning on going back ever
because it was still a communist country.

1299
01:21:08,488 --> 01:21:12,492
But this was a great opportunity
once I got my American citizenship.

1300
01:21:13,702 --> 01:21:15,453
Martina calls me and says,

1301
01:21:15,537 --> 01:21:20,083
"I'm hoping you can go to Prague
and represent the Fed Cup team with me."

1302
01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:26,172
I knew it would be special,
and I wanted Chris to be a part of it.

1303
01:21:26,673 --> 01:21:28,174
I wanted to share it with her.

1304
01:21:31,011 --> 01:21:33,096
The last chapter of my life,

1305
01:21:33,179 --> 01:21:36,099
I've been able to close
by coming back here.

1306
01:21:36,808 --> 01:21:39,978
That was the one unfinished chapter

1307
01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:43,189
that I've been waiting
for 11 years to complete.

1308
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:46,484
I went into her home,

1309
01:21:47,277 --> 01:21:49,988
and her mother made dumpling dinner.

1310
01:21:52,198 --> 01:21:56,328
And I saw the way she was
with her mom and she was with her dad.

1311
01:21:58,163 --> 01:22:00,665
I saw her kindness to people.

1312
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,174
I understood for the first time
the impact that she had on people

1313
01:22:09,257 --> 01:22:11,176
and how much they loved her.

1314
01:22:13,887 --> 01:22:19,059
I saw the humanity in Martina,
and I saw the vulnerability.

1315
01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:24,105
It was the most unbelievable trip
of my life.

1316
01:22:27,776 --> 01:22:30,862
You know, I think my feelings changed
about her after that.

1317
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,076
Chris, as hard as she seems
on the outside,

1318
01:22:36,576 --> 01:22:38,620
she's really soft on the inside.

1319
01:22:39,496 --> 01:22:43,083
And she still lets you in up to a point.

1320
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:48,713
She has a wall there,
but that wall got smaller and smaller.

1321
01:22:55,595 --> 01:22:57,597
Finally, everything dropped.

1322
01:22:57,681 --> 01:23:00,684
All the pretenses and all the ego dropped,

1323
01:23:01,267 --> 01:23:05,105
and we became genuine and authentic
with each other

1324
01:23:05,188 --> 01:23:09,317
and didn't affect
our performance on the court.

1325
01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:12,654
But it took a long time to get there.

1326
01:23:12,737 --> 01:23:14,948
Is it 14 years

1327
01:23:15,031 --> 01:23:17,826
that it was either you or Martina
that were number one?

1328
01:23:17,909 --> 01:23:19,119
We had seven years each.

1329
01:23:20,078 --> 01:23:24,332
It-- It's been a great rivalry. I mean,
we pushed each other to our limits.

1330
01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:28,628
And I probably would've retired
a long time ago if it wasn't for Martina.

1331
01:23:28,712 --> 01:23:30,880
She kept me in the game as long as I was.

1332
01:23:33,675 --> 01:23:35,468
We became a better tennis player

1333
01:23:35,552 --> 01:23:37,804
because we had each other
to push each other.

1334
01:23:44,102 --> 01:23:46,730
Chrissie armored up early

1335
01:23:46,813 --> 01:23:49,941
and has been taking her armor off steadily
over the years.

1336
01:23:50,442 --> 01:23:52,402
-Okay, guys!
-Go, go, go, go, go, go, go!

1337
01:23:53,862 --> 01:23:57,532
Martina came into public life
very, very vulnerable

1338
01:23:57,615 --> 01:23:59,117
and very, very exposed

1339
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,536
and has been armoring up ever since.

1340
01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:05,123
And they're just going like this,

1341
01:24:05,206 --> 01:24:08,585
but where they meet, I think
there's real understanding between them

1342
01:24:08,668 --> 01:24:10,545
because they both understand those paths.

1343
01:24:11,588 --> 01:24:14,758
I think they genuinely were cheering
for each other…

1344
01:24:16,885 --> 01:24:19,304
especially towards
the end of their careers.

1345
01:24:19,804 --> 01:24:21,556
You're fighting age.

1346
01:24:22,098 --> 01:24:24,934
You're fighting
the mortality of your career.

1347
01:24:25,435 --> 01:24:26,352
They both were.

1348
01:24:26,436 --> 01:24:28,563
They knew just where each other was.

1349
01:24:33,943 --> 01:24:37,989
Chris Evert has decided
there is more to life than tennis.

1350
01:24:39,908 --> 01:24:42,702
I have a great husband.
I have a great life now.

1351
01:24:42,786 --> 01:24:46,206
I mean, there could be a lot worse things
happening in my life than retirement.

1352
01:24:47,582 --> 01:24:50,085
If you were a little girl
and you loved tennis,

1353
01:24:50,168 --> 01:24:52,504
you wanted to be Chris Evert.

1354
01:24:53,004 --> 01:24:56,925
Thirteen years straight, she won
at least one Grand Slam tournament.

1355
01:24:57,008 --> 01:25:00,386
She won the US Open title
six times, Wimbledon three times,

1356
01:25:00,470 --> 01:25:02,138
and the French Open seven times,

1357
01:25:02,222 --> 01:25:06,851
and she had a career total
of 157 singles championships.

1358
01:25:06,935 --> 01:25:09,479
That is more
than any other player in history.

1359
01:25:11,773 --> 01:25:16,319
A big part of my tennis was gone
with Chris leaving.

1360
01:25:17,946 --> 01:25:20,198
The locker room was empty without her.

1361
01:25:25,286 --> 01:25:27,330
Game, set, and match, Miss Navratilova.

1362
01:25:28,748 --> 01:25:30,291
I played for a while longer.

1363
01:25:30,375 --> 01:25:34,420
Of the greatest names
in tennis history, men and women,

1364
01:25:34,504 --> 01:25:38,758
no one before today had ever won
nine singles titles.

1365
01:25:38,842 --> 01:25:42,178
That belongs alone to Martina Navratilova.

1366
01:25:45,140 --> 01:25:47,058
My best years were behind me.

1367
01:25:47,142 --> 01:25:48,893
And Martina perhaps sensing

1368
01:25:48,977 --> 01:25:53,731
that this could be the last time
she is a winner on center court.

1369
01:25:54,232 --> 01:25:56,985
I know you guys have been waiting
for this announcement for a long time.

1370
01:25:57,068 --> 01:25:59,737
Some of you, it seems,
for at least ten years.

1371
01:25:59,821 --> 01:26:00,989
So here it is.

1372
01:26:01,072 --> 01:26:04,701
1994 will be, definitely, my last year.

1373
01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:07,912
Thirteen thousand people gave Navratilova

1374
01:26:07,996 --> 01:26:10,248
a one-minute, 40-second standing ovation.

1375
01:26:10,915 --> 01:26:13,251
And as she left for the final time,

1376
01:26:13,334 --> 01:26:16,171
the player the other women
on the pro circuit called a legend

1377
01:26:16,254 --> 01:26:18,590
took a pinch
of that famous Wimbledon grass

1378
01:26:18,673 --> 01:26:20,049
as her souvenir.

1379
01:26:20,133 --> 01:26:23,887
The 167 singles victories,
more than any man or woman.

1380
01:26:23,970 --> 01:26:25,722
Eighteen Grand Slam titles.

1381
01:26:25,805 --> 01:26:27,765
Nine Wimbledon championships.

1382
01:26:27,849 --> 01:26:30,894
Those titles spanning
three different decades.

1383
01:26:31,394 --> 01:26:33,271
I have to thank tennis for my life,

1384
01:26:33,354 --> 01:26:35,523
and it's been a wonderful, wonderful life.

1385
01:26:41,696 --> 01:26:47,202
Their story just being rivals
in the sport of tennis

1386
01:26:48,661 --> 01:26:50,246
would be a great story right there.

1387
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:55,293
But this now shared experience
of going through cancer treatments,

1388
01:26:55,376 --> 01:26:56,920
supporting each other,

1389
01:26:57,003 --> 01:26:59,172
it's what you want from your friends.

1390
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:02,383
Support and love and care.

1391
01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:08,223
Usually it doesn't come from someone
who's beaten you like 37 times.

1392
01:27:09,974 --> 01:27:14,771
But that's what makes this
even more extraordinary.

1393
01:27:15,396 --> 01:27:17,941
You'll walk
all the way down past the exit sign.

1394
01:27:18,024 --> 01:27:20,360
-Thank you so much.
-You're welcome.

1395
01:27:21,319 --> 01:27:23,821
-How do you feel?
-Good. A little nervous.

1396
01:27:24,405 --> 01:27:25,907
All the images.

1397
01:27:26,908 --> 01:27:29,953
If there's a tumor,
it's going to show up as a yellow color.

1398
01:27:30,036 --> 01:27:32,163
Nothing. Completely normal.

1399
01:27:32,247 --> 01:27:33,414
No cancer.

1400
01:27:33,498 --> 01:27:35,708
The official report came out already.

1401
01:27:36,209 --> 01:27:38,336
No cancer spreading anywhere.

1402
01:27:38,419 --> 01:27:42,090
That's what number three's saying.
No FDG, nothing spreading.

1403
01:27:42,173 --> 01:27:44,092
There's nothing. Clear, clear, clear.

1404
01:27:44,175 --> 01:27:47,512
Post-treatment changes, breast,
everything. I mean, that's all good.

1405
01:27:47,595 --> 01:27:50,974
Wax and waning.
Okay, yep, everything looks great.

1406
01:27:51,057 --> 01:27:54,394
You don't ever know how much
it's gonna hit you one way or the other.

1407
01:27:54,477 --> 01:27:56,062
You're still scared.

1408
01:27:56,145 --> 01:27:59,148
And this is-- this is a big one because
now it's done, done, done, done, done.

1409
01:27:59,232 --> 01:28:02,110
And if I ever get cancer again,
it will not be related to this,

1410
01:28:02,193 --> 01:28:04,445
so I'm done with this fucker for good.

1411
01:28:09,158 --> 01:28:11,327
Do you want me to tell them
to turn it off?

1412
01:28:11,411 --> 01:28:13,329
You don't realize how much strain it is

1413
01:28:13,413 --> 01:28:14,998
until it's not there anymore.

1414
01:28:21,337 --> 01:28:23,589
Good morning, Chris.
It's Dr. Cardenas here.

1415
01:28:23,673 --> 01:28:25,925
-How are you?
-Good. Listen, excellent news.

1416
01:28:26,009 --> 01:28:30,763
Your CAT scan of the chest, abdomen,
and pelvis was clean and pristine…

1417
01:28:31,848 --> 01:28:35,476
…which means no evidence
of cancer cells anywhere.

1418
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,312
Oh, fuck.

1419
01:28:38,896 --> 01:28:41,107
Okay. I don't know what else to say.

1420
01:28:41,190 --> 01:28:42,525
I'm just so happy.

1421
01:28:45,278 --> 01:28:48,156
I was worried about that for a long time.

1422
01:28:52,827 --> 01:28:53,911
Gosh.

1423
01:28:54,787 --> 01:28:56,497
Oh, man.

1424
01:28:59,542 --> 01:29:00,501
Hello.

1425
01:29:00,585 --> 01:29:03,463
Um, I told you I would call you
when I found out the news.

1426
01:29:03,546 --> 01:29:06,341
-Yeah.
-And I'm all-- I'm all clear.

1427
01:29:06,924 --> 01:29:08,593
Yay!

1428
01:29:09,802 --> 01:29:11,346
I'm so relieved.

1429
01:29:11,888 --> 01:29:13,014
That's great.

1430
01:29:13,097 --> 01:29:15,600
I can go to sleep with a smile on my face.

1431
01:29:27,070 --> 01:29:30,698
A lot of people
who go through cancer will tell you

1432
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:33,993
you spend a lot of time
protecting the people around you.

1433
01:29:34,911 --> 01:29:35,995
Nana?

1434
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:39,165
Granny? Grandma? I don't know.
What are you gonna call me?

1435
01:29:40,625 --> 01:29:42,418
You don't wanna upset your children.

1436
01:29:42,502 --> 01:29:45,505
You don't wanna upset your girlfriend
or your boyfriend or your husband.

1437
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,592
So you keep it to yourself.

1438
01:29:52,053 --> 01:29:54,597
-Thanks for coming.
-This is a big fucking deal.

1439
01:29:55,098 --> 01:29:56,808
-Yeah.
-Watch the f-word.

1440
01:29:56,891 --> 01:29:58,434
This is a big deal.

1441
01:30:02,105 --> 01:30:05,483
Chrissie didn't have to
protect Martina. She could let it go.

1442
01:30:06,109 --> 01:30:07,860
Tell her, "I'm scared."

1443
01:30:07,944 --> 01:30:09,153
"I'm sick."

1444
01:30:09,779 --> 01:30:11,989
When you're in the moment
of feeling like that…

1445
01:30:12,073 --> 01:30:14,158
-You feel like it's never gonna pass.
-I know.

1446
01:30:14,867 --> 01:30:16,994
Like, "How-- How can I get through this?"

1447
01:30:19,497 --> 01:30:22,500
And Martina ended up
being able to do that with Chris.

1448
01:30:24,085 --> 01:30:26,963
There's no competition
of whose cancer was worse.

1449
01:30:27,964 --> 01:30:29,257
We're in the same boat,

1450
01:30:30,383 --> 01:30:32,176
and we're both there for each other.

1451
01:30:32,260 --> 01:30:33,845
Oh, there he goes. There he goes.

1452
01:30:34,554 --> 01:30:35,972
It's like you're related.

1453
01:30:36,055 --> 01:30:40,560
We're like Siamese twins
without being actually connected.

1454
01:30:40,643 --> 01:30:43,187
Ring this chime
to celebrate your last treatment

1455
01:30:43,271 --> 01:30:46,399
bringing you peace, luck,
and healing in your journey.

1456
01:30:46,482 --> 01:30:47,316
Go at it.

1457
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,568
Oh, okay.

1458
01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:54,699
Chrissie and Martina's friendship proves

1459
01:30:54,782 --> 01:30:58,202
that sportsmanship is not
some quaint fairy-tale idea.

1460
01:30:58,286 --> 01:30:59,829
It can really exist.

1461
01:31:01,372 --> 01:31:02,999
It can exist between two people

1462
01:31:03,082 --> 01:31:06,043
who duke it out
for 18 Grand Slam titles apiece.

1463
01:31:07,712 --> 01:31:11,883
There have been players who won
more Grand Slam titles than each of them,

1464
01:31:11,966 --> 01:31:17,763
but no one had to play a player
of such absolute generational greatness

1465
01:31:18,347 --> 01:31:20,224
for every one of those titles, virtually.

1466
01:31:20,308 --> 01:31:22,477
Yeah, both of these players are contending

1467
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,770
for the number one player of all time.

1468
01:31:24,854 --> 01:31:26,439
They're both so good.

1469
01:31:26,522 --> 01:31:29,484
I have my legacy
and my record individually.

1470
01:31:30,443 --> 01:31:31,819
But I feel like

1471
01:31:31,903 --> 01:31:34,572
the rivalry is just as important
if not more important.

1472
01:31:35,948 --> 01:31:39,494
My nine Wimbledons to your three
really helped me.

1473
01:31:40,119 --> 01:31:44,207
My seven French Opens to your… …two.

1474
01:31:46,250 --> 01:31:49,128
This rivalry, I think,
lives in a land by itself.

1475
01:31:49,212 --> 01:31:52,215
Your right hand against my right hand.
Let's see. Come on, baby.

1476
01:31:53,549 --> 01:31:55,593
We've been through so much,

1477
01:31:55,676 --> 01:31:58,221
the breakups
and the marriages and the kids.

1478
01:31:58,304 --> 01:32:00,097
We're taking care of each other.

1479
01:32:01,307 --> 01:32:03,226
And of course the matches.

1480
01:32:09,023 --> 01:32:10,900
I made it to 70.

1481
01:32:10,983 --> 01:32:16,656
When we got cancer together,
it really cemented our lasting friendship.

1482
01:32:18,783 --> 01:32:20,868
Martina and I hung in there
with each other.

1483
01:32:20,952 --> 01:32:23,579
"Body by Chris." Oh, this I wanna see.

1484
01:32:24,497 --> 01:32:25,373
Ooh.

1485
01:32:26,582 --> 01:32:28,584
Through bad times, good times.

1486
01:32:29,919 --> 01:32:32,088
I think it's a testament to friendship.

1487
01:32:34,632 --> 01:32:35,967
There's no going back.

1488
01:32:38,261 --> 01:32:39,971
We're always gonna be tight.

1489
01:32:43,975 --> 01:32:46,561
Do you still play any competitive tennis
against each other?

1490
01:32:46,644 --> 01:32:48,813
-Competitive, are you kidding?
-Jesus.

1491
01:32:48,896 --> 01:32:51,148
The competition is
actually getting on the court.

1492
01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:54,485
If I didn't have a bum shoulder,
I'd whip her ass.

1493
01:32:57,738 --> 01:33:01,075
Miss Evert and
Miss Navratilova lead in the final set.

1494
01:33:26,267 --> 01:33:28,603
This is something
that I think about all the time.

1495
01:33:28,686 --> 01:33:31,105
-And I've asked both them, right?
-Okay.

1496
01:33:32,398 --> 01:33:36,736
Would they be friends
if they didn't each win 18?

1497
01:33:42,283 --> 01:33:44,577
What did they say? I know the answer.

1498
01:33:44,660 --> 01:33:46,829
-You talking about Grand Slams?
-Yeah.

1499
01:33:46,912 --> 01:33:48,664
-Would we still be friends?
-Right.

1500
01:33:48,748 --> 01:33:49,624
As good of friends?

1501
01:33:49,707 --> 01:33:51,792
You'd have to ask her what she thinks.

1502
01:33:51,876 --> 01:33:52,877
Uh, I think it grows.

1503
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,087
I mean, you see it with Roger and Rafa.

1504
01:33:55,171 --> 01:33:58,966
Their… You know, their respect
and love for each other grew

1505
01:33:59,050 --> 01:34:00,509
the more they played each other.

1506
01:34:00,593 --> 01:34:02,386
Nobody's ever asked me that.

1507
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:04,639
Anything about 18 Grand Slams each,

1508
01:34:04,722 --> 01:34:07,391
does that even affect
your friendship, relationship, or--?

1509
01:34:07,475 --> 01:34:09,268
I think it all evens out,

1510
01:34:09,352 --> 01:34:13,230
but, um, on that front,
we're… we're equal.

1511
01:34:13,314 --> 01:34:15,608
Um, and, you know, I'm good with that.

1512
01:34:16,317 --> 01:34:20,529
That's not
what the base of our friendship is about.

1513
01:34:20,613 --> 01:34:23,366
Now I can sleep at night.
Thank you, Chrissie.