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[audience cheering, applauding]
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[announcer] Ladies and gentlemen,
the fabulous Rolf Harris!
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["Jake the Peg" playing]
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♪ I'm Jake the Peg
Diddly-diddly-diddly-lum ♪
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♪ With this extra leg ♪
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{\an8}[Rolf] Entertaining is like a drug.
The greatest drug in the world.
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{\an8}The public adulation, the applause.
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It's hard to give up these things
if you're born to be a show-off.
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[dramatic music playing]
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Rolf's autobiography tells us the story
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that he wants the world
to believe about him.
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- The lovable larrikin.
- Okay, knock that off.
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[Chelsea] The people's painter.
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- [Rolf] Can you tell what it is yet?
- [audience laughing]
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It's been said of him that after Skippy,
he's the world's best-loved pet Aussie.
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But the most authentic account of him
is by the people he impacted.
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That's around about the age that…
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I was when Rolf Harris assaulted me.
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I was 11 years old.
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[Sunny] I was really like,
what's going on here?
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[Tonya] My whole life was,
don't let anybody know.
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It took 27 years for me to come forward
to anybody about it.
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[Chip] I first came into contact
with Victim A
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when she started to disclose that she had
been abused as a child by Rolf Harris.
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[Ben] The victim had been
a family friend of the Harris family.
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She just thought, this is enough.
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{\an8}[Rolf] For years, I'd been waiting for
someone to tap me on the shoulder and say…
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we found you out.
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[reporter] The Australian entertainer
Rolf Harris has pleaded
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not guilty to charges of indecent assault.
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[Sasha] The danger was they simply would
refuse to believe that he was guilty.
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The nice Mr Harris
would never touch up children.
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I think he's just
one of the worst criminals
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that I've ever been in a courtroom with.
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- [dramatic music playing]
- [audience applauding]
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[dramatic music playing]
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[reporter 2] The police investigation
Operation Yewtree
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was set up to investigate this man.
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[Callum] After the death of Jimmy Savile,
who was a well-known entertainer,
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it emerged that Savile
was a predatory paedophile.
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And that led to a police investigation
called Operation Yewtree.
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[phone ringing]
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[Gary] When Operation Yewtree
first started…
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information came in
in a number of different ways.
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{\an8}There were thousands of messages…
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{\an8}intelligence, allegations that all needed
to be gone through carefully.
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It was a really staggering task
and one that I don't think any of us had…
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- faced quite in the same way before.
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[Ben] There were names that were
coming forward that were already surreal,
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{\an8}I suppose, were the terms that were used.
People who had been in the public focus,
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stood for family entertainment
and good clean kind of wholesome fun.
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[children singing]
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I'd watched him on his cartoon program.
My family loved him.
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♪ They've been gone,
And the shirts that they were wearing… ♪
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- ♪ What? ♪
- ♪ Yes ♪
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[Ben] So to have his name, Rolf Harris,
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put in with that, to me,
was a huge surprise.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Meiron] Savile was dead.
He couldn't be prosecuted.
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There was now a feeling that
Rolf Harris should not be allowed
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{\an8}to get away with this, that he shouldn't
go to his grave without facing justice.
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The police have not done
their job properly with Savile…
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that maybe they had to do it
this time with Harris.
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{\an8}[Ben] We conducted a search
of his home address in Bray.
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{\an8}[doorbell rings]
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{\an8}[Ben] When we entered that address,
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{\an8}the only person who was actually
present was his housekeeper.
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{\an8}We began searching the address,
which was a really kind of large property.
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{\an8}Key evidence being found in Rolf's study…
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{\an8}- copies of his diaries.
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{\an8}[Ben] There was also some letters
that we seized, certainly some photos.
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{\an8}His computer.
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{\an8}And they were all reviewed.
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The computer that was seized
from Harris' study showed to contain
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indecent images of children,
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which was quite a shocking revelation
for the investigation.
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[Nick] I was aware that
this story was bubbling away,
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that there was something going on.
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{\an8}Rumours started, names started
circulating, social media, speculation.
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Bray's quite a private neighbourhood.
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Rolf's neighbours were not happy
to see the press at all.
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There were dark looks
and glares from the Range Rovers.
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When I was lurking outside his house
with the press pack…
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no one at that stage had put in print
the name that would go with the rumours.
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[Ben] We arranged for an initial interview
to take place in a police building
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in Wimbledon, southwest London.
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{\an8}He was quite arrogant,
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{\an8}and I think he thought
he would walk out of there
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and that would be the end of the matter.
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[dramatic music playing]
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My editors were very keen for me
to pin down
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Rolf in connection with it,
but I couldn't name him.
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You can't go into print
without really, really knowing,
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because this is a big accusation.
This is massive.
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If you're wrong,
the repercussions are extraordinary.
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As media interest grew
in relation to Harris,
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and his name was being mentioned around,
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that's when the investigation
really started to grow.
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{\an8}[Meiron] In Britain,
it's very difficult to report allegations
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against powerful people with big lawyers.
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In early 2013, he was arrested,
and it wasn't until April
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when the Sun decided they were just
going to go and run the story anyhow.
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[reporter 3]
Britain's Sun newspaper published
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what has been circulating
on social media for weeks.
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Can I ask you for your reaction to the
reports in The Sun newspaper this morning
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that you've been arrested
on suspicion of sex offences?
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- [Rolf] No comment.
- No comment?
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[sombre music playing]
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[reporter 4] They keep coming out now,
these allegations.
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There are more allegations of sexual abuse
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emerging against Rolf Harris.
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[reporter 5] Scotland Yard detectives
say they have no comment
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about the latest allegations.
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All they would confirm is that officers
have travelled recently to Australia.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[upbeat music playing]
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After going through an English winter,
what better place to come for a holiday
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than the northwest tip
of the Northern Territory in Australia.
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We're in Darwin,
that's Darwin just over there.
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{\an8}[Rolf] We were back in Australia
as a family to film Rolf's Walkabout,
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{\an8}the first documentary series
to be shot in colour by the ABC.
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{\an8}When I read Rolf Harris's autobiography,
I think he's cultivated…
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{\an8}an image as Mr Australia,
this almost lovable,
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adventurous character
of outback Australia.
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[Rolf] Oh, listen to the echo. Oh!
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That every child would want to be around.
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[Christine] I've been
completely anonymous about this.
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It takes a lot to be able
to talk about it.
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{\an8}Just get rid of,
thank God I haven't got make-up on.
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I haven't spoken out to media
or even the friends that I grew up with
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about it because
I just didn't feel comfortable,
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I didn't want to upset anyone.
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I should have been braver maybe
and said something when he was alive,
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you know, I…
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but I didn't.
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- [director] But you are now.
- Hmm.
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- [director] Are you nervous?
- Yeah, very nervous.
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It's just as well he's not here,
you know, he's dancing down in hell.
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So, you know, he's sweating
more than I am. So…
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[chuckles]
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That's around about the age that…
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I was when Rolf Harris assaulted me.
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I was 11 years old.
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I really wish that I'd been taught
to push someone away from me.
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[interviewer] Rolf, you've been
to many remote areas of Australia…
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You didn't call me Ralph by any chance,
did you then?
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[interviewer laughs]
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Keep going, no don't stop,
that's the best bit.
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It's Rolf, but yeah, I really hate it.
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Everyone else refers to him
as Rolf, Rolf Harris,
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but I just automatically think
of him as Mr Harris.
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When I was young,
to me an adult was someone
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that I needed to treat
as an adult with respect.
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[thunder rumbling]
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[clinking]
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{\an8}[Christine] I was staying
at a friend's house.
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{\an8}Her parents were good friends
with Rolf Harris.
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{\an8}I came downstairs and I was in my jammies…
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{\an8}[dramatic music playing]
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…and Mr Harris was downstairs.
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{\an8}I got towards the bottom of the stairs
and he said to me,
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"Oh, hello…
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who are you"? And I said, "Oh, I'm…
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Christine". And he said,
"Oh, and how old are you"?
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And I said, "Oh, I'm 11".
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And he said,
"Oh, just coming into womanhood".
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He said, "Well, then allow me
to be the first one
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to introduce you to womanhood".
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And so he said, "Come over here".
Pulled me towards him.
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And then… he then bent his head down and…
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started kissing me
and stuck his tongue down my throat.
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And I was just frozen, absolutely.
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And then he was just stroking me
up and down and tongue kissing me.
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And then he just stepped back
and he said, "Well, welcome to womanhood".
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- "Now you'll know what that's all about".
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[Christine] I told my parents
what Rolf Harris did to me.
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They didn't believe me.
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They said, "Oh, you
and your stories, Christine".
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I thought, if my parents don't believe me,
why would anyone else believe me?
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I have downplayed it a lot.
And I feel kind of like…
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that I'm wasting people's time
saying even anything about it.
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But, you know, the whole thing has left
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a mark on the way
that I am as a person, even now.
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I feel unsafe. I feel vulnerable.
I feel terrified
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that something's going to happen
that I'm going to have no control over.
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It's a bit like a jack-in-the-box
that keeps coming out
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- and frightening you each time.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Gary] We had very limited time
working in Australia.
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{\an8}There was absolutely a race against time
and with minimal resources.
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[Ben] It's always difficult to investigate
any kind of offence that's historic.
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{\an8}You're looking for other witnesses
who can corroborate
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{\an8}what was happening at that time.
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And over the period of ten, 20, 30 years,
maybe in 40 years
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when these offences were taking place.
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Sing us a song while we wait. Come on.
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♪ O ka re ka re a… ♪
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[sombre music playing]
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[reporter 6] Rolf Harris admits
he's no expert on child abuse.
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But feels compelled to use
his showbiz pull to help draw attention
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to what he sees as a major social problem.
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I mean, I just started to be aware
of the enormity of this problem.
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Because it's like treading on eggs
without breaking the shells.
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It's such a taboo subject.
Everybody is so…
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touchy on it.
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Statistics here in New Zealand,
one woman in four…
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was sexually molested before she was 16.
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One in four.
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He felt that was his protection.
You've got the guy who's the celebrity,
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who's the family favourite.
He's actually a paedophile.
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He's actually a monster. It's insane.
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It's almost like Black Mirror, isn't it?
It's almost, you know…
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it's the ultimate twist ending, really.
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I think it gets all the points in
that I was after
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to try and tell the whole story
of the construction of the thing.
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Don't put any powder on me,
will you? Because I'm a man.
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And don't get me looking too flash.
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{\an8}Makeup artists and wardrobe, we're the
only ones that actually touch performers.
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{\an8}So we're crossing that aura,
if you like, that boundary.
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{\an8}So I'm 23, 24 at the time.
This is at the beginning of my career.
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I was so excited. I was going
to be working with Rolf Harris.
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I was a little girl.
I watched him on the wobbleboard.
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I told my parents I was going
to be working with him,
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my friends, like, "Oh my goodness,
it's going to be huge".
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Suzi] On the day, I was allocated
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a little makeup room
in the Channel 7 studios.
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Rolf sat in my chair.
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While I'm touching his face,
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he gets his hand and he drops
it down underneath the chair.
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And I'm standing on this side of him.
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And he ran his arm up and his hand
up my leg inside my shorts.
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I kind of felt like he was trying
to feel my knickers.
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It gave me a really huge shock.
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I did ask him not to touch me,
but I didn't do it loudly.
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The number one rule for me
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as a makeup artist
is we don't upset the talent.
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[sombre music playing]
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[Suzi] From the makeup room,
we then walked into the studio.
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Now, there was a director there
who was around the same age as Rolf.
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What are we doing?
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[Suzi] The director and him are talking
about me and what I looked like.
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What my legs look like
and how shapely they were
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and what my face looked like
and what my body was like.
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Each time it was time to powder his nose,
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he would put both hands
up the side of my legs
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and run them straight up inside my shorts.
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[dramatic music playing]
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He would pull me towards him
and try and crotch grind me.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Suzi] Now, I'm in a room full of men.
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The cameraman, the lighting guy,
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the sound guy,
there's all these men there.
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Nobody said anything.
Not one man asked him to stop.
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The director egged him on.
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He had taken carte blanche for six hours
with running his hands up my legs,
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on my thighs, touching me,
trying to crotch grind me.
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[sombre music playing]
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At the very end of the day, I went in
to see the lady who was running makeup.
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I said to her, I have just had
the worst day with a dirty old man.
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And she said to me,
"Oh, I thought you knew".
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And I'm like, "I knew what"?
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She said,
"Oh, his nickname is the octopus".
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[audience laughing]
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[Rolf] Now, this one,
you'd have him just resting his,
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this little tentacle on his walking stick,
which he carries there.
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[Suzi] She said, I have a message
from the Channel 7 executives.
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She said, they just wanted to commend you
on how you had conducted yourself.
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They had all watched me
get abused and assaulted,
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and they were very happy
with how I had behaved.
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[dramatic music playing]
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- [audience applauding]
- [camera shutter clicking]
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Rolf Harris was not passive
during this time.
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He had people who were
working behind the scenes
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to try and protect his interests.
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He had plenty of money.
He had plenty of friends.
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He could afford the best advice.
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He was not just passively waiting
for this to happen.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Tonya] His team started to try
and find dirt on me.
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So they would send private detectives
to my family, to my neighbours.
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They subpoenaed all my medical records
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{\an8}to make out that I was a nutcase,
you know, crazy, a liar.
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Anything that would put me in a bad light.
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[Ben] Any time we tried to speak
to any witness that we found…
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we'd speak to them.
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And then the next phone call we would get
would be from Rolf's solicitors,
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saying that, you know,
if you want to speak to this person,
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then you have to come through us.
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We're going to try and control that
element of the investigation around you.
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[Kerry] Bruce is, in fact,
in the audience. Hi, Bruce. Welcome.
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{\an8}Bruce Harris is Rolf's older brother
and was also his manager for many years.
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[Kerry] He's your little brother,
isn't he?
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]Everywhere I went,
I couldn't get rid of him.
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He called me and he said,
"Well, you know, Rolf,
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you know this couldn't possibly
have happened".
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I felt that I was being coerced
to say he couldn't have done it.
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[all laughing]
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And that he was trying to get me
to testify for the defence.
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And I just said, I cannot possibly say
that it didn't happen.
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Then I'd be disbelieving Tonya
and I'd be calling her a liar
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and I was not prepared to do that.
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I believed her
and I wanted to support her.
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And the last thing in the
world I was going to do was…
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call her a liar.
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So by the time I walked
into that courtroom,
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I was furious with him.
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- [dramatic music playing]
- [indistinct chatter]
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[reporter 7] Australian entertainer
Rolf Harris has been charged
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by British police with numerous counts
of indecent assault
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against teenage girls and of the
making indecent images of a child.
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[reporter 8] Rolf Harris faced court
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and dozens of cameras, making no comment.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[reporter 9] Australian entertainer
Rolf Harris has pleaded not guilty
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to charges of indecent assault.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Sasha] When I was told that the defendant
in this case was Rolf Harris,
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I thought I have absolutely no chance
of getting a conviction of this case
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because he was universally adored.
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{\an8}The difficulty in prosecuting
historic sex offences
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{\an8}is it often boils down
to one person's word against another.
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- [dramatic music playing]
- [indistinct chatter]
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[Sasha] A celebrity or a victim.
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In this case, there were ten women,
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all of whom made allegations
against Rolf Harris.
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Many of those allegations
were completely unknown
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to the other before they made them.
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And despite that, the majority of them
had strikingly similar features,
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which would have made it
the most remarkable coincidence
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had they all just invented them.
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[Callum] As the trial began,
Rolf's defence team
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{\an8}decided to present the jury with…
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{\an8}the entertainer…
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{\an8}that they knew and loved,
the very famous man, Rolf Harris.
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[audience applauding]
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And so they gave him a sort of
"tour de celebrity" in the witness box.
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{\an8}[Rolf] If people were going to look at me
when I walked into the room,
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{\an8}I might as well give them a good reason.
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And at one point, he was asked
about his song, "Jake the Peg".
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And he started singing
a few bars of "Jake the Peg"
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to the jury from the witness box.
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{\an8}♪ I'm Jake the Peg
Diddly diddly diddly lum ♪
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{\an8}♪ With his extra leg
Diddly diddly diddly lum ♪
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[Sasha] And as I looked over to the jury,
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several members of the jury
appeared to be…
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in awe, captivated by his celebrity.
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[audience applauding]
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When celebrities are involved,
there's a syndrome.
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Firstly, people think they know you.
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The nice Mr Harris would
never touch up children.
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- [audience applauding]
- [indistinct chatter]
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And the danger was
they simply would refuse to believe,
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whatever the evidence, that he was guilty.
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[audience applauding]
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Thank you.
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At the trial, there were four main victims
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{\an8}that were presented
within the prosecution.
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{\an8}The offences that had
taken place in the UK.
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[sombre music playing]
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[Gary] In addition to that evidence,
there were six character witnesses.
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{\an8}Their testimony was to show that these
events were not isolated one-off events,
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{\an8}but they were a pattern of conduct
across time and place.
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{\an8}[Ben] The key victim, known as Victim A,
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{\an8}was a close personal friend
of his daughter,
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Bindi Harris, and a childhood friend.
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The abuse had begun
when she was 13 years old.
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Rolf Harris was perceived
at that time as being a national treasure.
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A man that works
predominantly with children.
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{\an8}Now, here we are at a place
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{\an8}where most of us have learnt to swim,
at a swimming pool.
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That produces public safety videos
in relation to the protection of children.
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{\an8}Oh, could you hang onto those
for me for a minute?
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{\an8}I'm just going to go in with them on.
I want you to watch closely
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{\an8}and see how many things
you think I'm doing wrong here.
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{\an8}- Right, here we go.
- [dramatic music playing]
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{\an8}[Ben] He was in a position of trust.
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[Sasha] When Victim A was 13 years old,
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the families by this stage
knew each other very well,
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and Rolf Harris invited
Victim A to travel with him
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and his daughter to Hawaii and Australia.
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And because Rolf Harris was trusted,
the family were delighted
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to allow their daughter
to travel with the Harris family.
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Rolf Harris came into her room
after she'd come out of the shower,
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and he started by a bear hug,
which was his MO, if you like,
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and then started touching
Victim A more seriously,
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culminating in him
digitally penetrating her vagina.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[reporter 10] The alleged victim says
she allowed herself to be abused by Harris
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until the age of 29,
having been groomed like a pet.
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[Callum] Rolf Harris' defence was that
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there had been consensual
sexual activity between them
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when she was an adult,
but that the allegations against him
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that related to her as a child
had simply never happened.
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[dramatic music playing]
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{\an8}[Sasha] There were several photographs
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{\an8}and video footage
put before the jury of Victim A.
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{\an8}Rolf Harris himself
took some video footage
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{\an8}of Victim A and Bindi by a pool…
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{\an8}and he honed in, not on his own daughter,
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{\an8}but on Victim A, who was wearing
what he called a flesh-coloured bikini.
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{\an8}And much of the filming
itself had quite a prurient quality.
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{\an8}And Mr Harris admitted in court
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that he had complimented Witness A
about her flesh-coloured bathing suit,
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and I asked him about that,
and I said that when you compliment…
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a woman and say that's a nice bikini,
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what you're actually saying is you've got
a very nice body, and he agreed with that.
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And then I suggested that he was
complimenting her on her body
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because he found her sexually attractive…
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and he agreed with that,
and then I asked him…
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to remember that she was
13 years old at the time…
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and he agreed with that.
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I mean, you could have heard a pin drop.
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You know, it was such
a stupid thing for him to admit…
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but he did.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[reporter 11] The court heard that he was
a regular visitor to pornographic sites
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with names including Young Teen Girls
and My Little Nieces.
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{\an8}When we initially had gone
to search Rolf Harris' home address,
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{\an8}We seized copies of his diaries,
and they were all reviewed.
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{\an8}One of the dates
in particular in the diary
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showed that he was taking part
in the Queen's Jubilee celebrations…
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[audience cheering]
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…and on the day he was doing that,
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he was also looking at indecent images
of children on the computer.
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In his defence, Rolf Harris said that
the housekeeper had seen his grandson
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in his study looking at
possibly pornography on the computer,
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and that may be an excuse
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as to why there was these indecent images
on the computer at that time.
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He tried to blame his own grandson
for these offences, yeah.
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It just kind of goes to show the lengths
of how far he was prepared to go,
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and also how far his legal team
were prepared to go
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to distance himself from those images.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[soft music playing]
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I was recently turned 15
when he assaulted me.
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I was on the stand
for two days giving evidence.
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It took a lot out of me.
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My whole life was, don't let anybody know.
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It took 27 years for me to come forward
to anybody about it.
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{\an8}I knew that that was
the first and only time
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{\an8}that people are going to hear
in a courtroom where it matters
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what he did,
and he can be held to account.
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That's the only place it matters.
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There was no stopping me.
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Rolf Harris' defence was that
those that had spoken out against him
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were just gold diggers,
that they were looking for compensation,
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that actually there was
no substance to anything
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that they had to say, and anything that
had happened was just misconstrued.
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[Suzi] Rolf Harris' barrister
called me a liar…
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{\an8}and I turned round to get off the stand
and I stared at Rolf Harris.
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I was so pissed off
at being called a liar.
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He literally turned himself
round on his swivel chair
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and looked completely opposite.
He refused to make eye contact with me,
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and I stared at him
the entire way out of there.
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[reporter 12] An Australian witness
told the court
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before the entertainer assaulted her,
458
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,280
he said, "I want to be the first one
to introduce you to a tongue kiss".
459
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,919
{\an8}The barrister asked me,
"Well, what was so bad about that"?
460
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,479
[sombre music playing]
461
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,079
And then, explain
what your jammies were, he said.
462
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,599
Did I have something on
that was provocative?
463
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,879
And I looked at the jury
and then I looked back at him
464
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800
and I said to him, "I was a child…
465
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,200
I was a child".
466
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,639
[Sasha] In almost all cases
467
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,919
where somebody alleges that
they have been sexually abused,
468
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,039
they are either accused of lying
469
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,080
or being the instigator
of the sexual abuse.
470
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,599
{\an8}In this case, it was put to Victim A
that she was very much the one
471
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,960
{\an8}who wanted to have an affair
with Rolf Harris when she was over 18.
472
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
[Chip] When I first encountered Victim A…
473
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,560
she always wanted
to preserve her anonymity.
474
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,159
She wanted me to be her spokesperson
and I was quite happy to take on that role
475
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,720
because I felt that she needed help.
476
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,840
{\an8}What he said in court
about it being consensual…
477
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,920
{\an8}about it only starting when she was 18…
478
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,999
that she knew to be
absolutely not the case.
479
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,239
It had been going on
for years before that,
480
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,199
four or five years of inappropriate
behaviour before she was 18.
481
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,079
Any idea that she was
wanting this behaviour to happen
482
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800
as I know it and I know her,
483
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,480
it was so far removed
from reality and the facts.
484
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,559
[Sasha] What was quite interesting
evidence was that Rolf Harris
485
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,720
wrote a very lengthy letter
to Victim A's father.
486
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,879
And when I saw that letter
written in his own handwriting,
487
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,559
I knew that that would form
an important part
488
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:07,160
- of the cross-examination of him.
- [suspenseful music playing]
489
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,640
[Chip] It's the first time
I've actually seen this letter…
490
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,680
that Rolf sent to the father.
491
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,599
"I fondly imagine that everything
that had taken place had progressed
492
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,320
from a feeling of love and friendship".
493
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,800
"There was no rape, no physical forcing,
brutality or beating that took place".
494
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,640
That's a really…
495
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,080
twisted way of looking at it.
496
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,040
No, there wasn't any physical forcing,
497
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,479
but what you've done is you have taken
that feeling of love and friendship
498
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880
and twisted it and used it
to your advantage.
499
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,440
I said, "Why do you just never…"
Oh, God, that is…
500
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,160
"Why did you never say no"?
501
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,760
I think it's fucking outrageous.
I think it's absolutely disgusting.
502
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,880
I think any abuser who says to somebody,
their victim, why didn't you stop me?
503
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,319
It's outrageous.
I'm really upset reading this.
504
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,560
It makes me really angry.
505
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,919
[Sasha] Then he says this, "When I see
the misery I have caused Victim A,
506
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,680
I'm sickened by myself".
507
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,879
"You can't go back and change things
that you've done in this life".
508
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,760
"I wish to God I could".
509
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,279
This doesn't fit in at all
with Mr Harris's account,
510
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,999
that this was a consensual
sexual relationship instigated,
511
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,799
he says, by Victim A.
512
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,559
Why on earth would
it have caused her misery?
513
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:44,359
And when he gave evidence,
he really had no credible explanation
514
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,119
as to why he'd written a letter like that,
515
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,559
if nothing horrible
had happened to Victim A.
516
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,680
[sombre music playing]
517
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Rolf Harris would arrive every single day
with his wife, with his daughter Bindi.
518
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,040
{\an8}[Rolf] I'm so lucky to have found
someone like her.
519
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,280
{\an8}I've often wondered how she'd
put up with me for all these years.
520
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,000
{\an8}I've never been a perfect husband.
521
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,039
- [camera shutters clicking]
- [Sasha] They would walk extremely slowly,
522
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:27,319
all linking arms so that the cameras
could focus on him and his family
523
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
for a good five or six minutes.
524
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,800
[reporter 13] Rolf, what does it mean
to have the family supporting you, Rolf?
525
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,919
[Sasha] And I asked Rolf Harris about this
when I cross-examined him
526
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,360
as to how it came about that
the three of them were there every day.
527
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:49,040
And Rolf Harris said,
"Well, they didn't come together".
528
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,320
He just arrived with Alwen, his wife,
529
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,280
and they met up with Bindi
in a cafe around the corner.
530
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,839
And when they were all assembled,
they would put on this performance
531
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,239
- in order to walk slowly into court.
- [dramatic music playing]
532
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,000
And I asked him why he did that.
533
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,639
And he said that's what
his PR people had advised him to do.
534
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,600
I mean, it was so stupid.
535
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,200
It was ridiculous.
536
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,800
[Ben] I think it speaks volumes.
537
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
He was the main breadwinner
for his daughter, Bindi Harris.
538
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,679
I think she had to do everything
she thought was possible
539
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640
to protect her father,
protect his credibility.
540
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,119
[suspenseful music playing]
541
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,839
[Ben] Rolf chose to give
evidence in his trial,
542
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,600
which is obviously a matter
for his defence team whether he did that.
543
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,360
And it became the complete
and utter disaster for him.
544
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,439
So after Victim A turned 18,
545
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,800
the relationship,
if you want to call it that, continued.
546
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,080
He revealed…
547
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,680
details, particularly
in relation to Victim A…
548
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,479
that as the investigative team,
we didn't know about.
549
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,799
[suspenseful music playing]
550
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,119
[Ben] He talked about meeting Victim A
and that he had taken her
551
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,240
to a towpath that runs along
the river at the back of the house…
552
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:27,279
and that he had got Victim A to perform
oral sex on him on that towpath.
553
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,959
His defence team,
his barrister, said to him,
554
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,119
"Oh, I imagine this is a place
that's quite well covered
555
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,520
and secluded and secrete".
556
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,440
"No, no, no, it was all quite open.
People could see".
557
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,439
Another incident he talked about was
558
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,160
while staying at Bindi's house,
he had been sat on a sofa
559
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,440
and sat to the left side of him
was Bindi Harris, his daughter…
560
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,759
and sat to the right side of him
was Victim A,
561
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,160
who had come to visit Bindi.
562
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,600
Because it was cold,
they had a blanket across their laps.
563
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,920
He had got Victim A to masturbate him
whilst his daughter was sat next to him.
564
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,360
And you're sat there in a court setting,
listening to this story, thinking…
565
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,399
what are you saying?
566
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,840
The jury were absolutely horrified
by this story.
567
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,719
I think he believed
by saying these things,
568
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,599
he was almost justifying,
exonerating himself.
569
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,080
What, you know,
this legitimate relationship.
570
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,160
That story that he told was
a turning point for the jury.
571
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,560
[suspenseful music playing]
572
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,719
[reporter 14] The jury in the Rolf Harris
sexual abuse trial in London
573
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,559
has retired to consider its verdict.
574
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,999
[reporter 15] The judge told the jury
to put aside any ideas
575
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:00,159
of typical victim or offender behaviour,
saying there was no classic response.
576
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,439
[reporter 16] The prosecution has
branded him a sinister pervert
577
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040
with a Jekyll and Hyde side
to his character.
578
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:07,999
[indistinct chatter]
579
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,520
[Ben] The days leading up to
the verdict were difficult.
580
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,320
Have our victims been believed?
581
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,840
Have we gathered and presented
our evidence in the right way?
582
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
If we lose, the effects of that…
583
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,040
on a personal level for me,
are quite catastrophic.
584
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:32,520
From a professional level,
from the Metropolitan Police…
585
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,560
it's catastrophic.
586
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,199
And for the victims, it's catastrophic.
587
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,760
All this time, effort,
and most importantly, publicity…
588
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,399
- will be for nothing.
- [dramatic music playing]
589
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,119
[Gary] It just felt that there was a huge,
590
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,000
huge amount hanging on that jury,
that decision.
591
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,840
[reporter 17] This was to be the day
of reckoning for Rolf Harris.
592
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,240
{\an8}[Ben] The jury came in,
and I remember being sat next to Gary,
593
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,839
{\an8}and I remember saying to him,
"Two of the female jurors are crying".
594
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,120
They were in floods of tears.
595
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,680
{\an8}And trying to work out…
596
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,360
{\an8}is it a bad sign for us?
597
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,200
What are they thinking?
598
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,600
{\an8}[reporter 17] After an eight-week trial,
the jury had made up its mind.
599
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,760
{\an8}In the mid-afternoon,
it delivered its unanimous verdicts.
600
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,880
- Guilty on all 12 counts.
- [indistinct chatter]
601
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,320
[Sasha] The judge went on.
602
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,519
You took advantage of the trust placed
in you because of your celebrity status
603
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,400
to commit the offences
against your victims.
604
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,559
In every case, the age gap
between you and your victim
605
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,399
was a very considerable one.
606
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,679
You clearly got a thrill
from committing the offences
607
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,600
whilst others were present or nearby.
608
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,719
You have shown no remorse
for your crimes at all.
609
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:05,959
Your reputation now lies in ruins,
but you have no-one to blame but yourself.
610
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,479
[dramatic music playing]
611
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,639
[reporter 18] The veteran
Australian entertainer, Rolf Harris,
612
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,800
has been sentenced to five years
and nine months jail by a judge in London.
613
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,960
[reporter 19] He left in a prison van,
his spectacular fall from grace complete.
614
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Rolf Harris was Operation Yewtrees'
biggest success.
615
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,360
- [door closes]
- [birds chirping]
616
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,559
[soft music playing]
617
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,999
[Tonya] When the verdict came in,
618
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Gary called me and said
"He was found guilty".
619
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,800
I was so happy
and so relieved and so grateful.
620
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,120
After all those decades…
621
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Yeah, you can't get those decades back,
622
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:13,080
but sort of explained maybe why my life
didn't go the way people expected it to.
623
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,800
[Chris] I was Rolf's didge player.
I was his driver, security sometimes.
624
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,000
{\an8}Rolf, Alwen, myself and Bindi,
we would get together,
625
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,000
{\an8}you know, sometimes four or five
times a week, sometimes twice a week…
626
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,719
and I hadn't had anything to do with Rolf
after his sentencing for quite some time.
627
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,240
[suspenseful music playing]
628
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,360
Yeah, the letter.
629
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,840
Rolf wrote me this from jail.
630
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
It's aimed at his accusers, his victims…
631
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,600
who some of were children at the time
of his offences towards them.
632
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,839
His words, "Climb up out of the woodwork,
babe, from 40 years ago".
633
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,199
"Time's right to grab your chance".
634
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,479
"Clap eyes on a rich celebrity
and make the bastard dance".
635
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,159
The letter made me feel sick at the time,
and reading it now,
636
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,600
I feel the same fucking way.
637
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,320
He really felt that he was the victim.
638
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,719
He really did.
639
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,879
And all of these accusers
are liars, all of them.
640
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,120
[sombre music playing]
641
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,040
[Paul] After that awful,
awful poem appeared in the paper…
642
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,440
{\an8}Wendy told me she wanted to
write one back to him in return.
643
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,560
She wrote, "Mr. Harris, you chose me,
remember, 40 years ago".
644
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,719
{\an8}- "You put your dirty hand on me…
- [Wendy] "…hands on me".
645
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:12,320
{\an8}"And have not let me go".
646
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,680
{\an8}"Now you are complaining.
I can almost hear the wail
647
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,719
whining you are innocent
from your cushy jail".
648
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:21,759
The letter.
649
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,560
[Wendy] "All this has taken its toll,
and it's me who has to swerve".
650
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,760
Yeah, she probably felt,
"Oh, he thinks he's had the last say".
651
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,359
I ain't gonna let that happen.
652
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,320
I was a child. I was seven.
653
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400
A little girl, innocent. [sobs]
654
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,640
And I think she just went
and grabbed the power back from him again.
655
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,360
You know?
656
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,600
- [sombre music playing]
- Not seen this for a while.
657
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Yeah.
658
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,440
[director] Why do you think he did it?
659
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Well…
660
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,800
[sombre music playing]
661
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,399
I think it's a difficult question
to say why did he do it.
662
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,760
You know, you're trying to get into
the psyche of someone…
663
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,920
who…
664
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,800
is sexually attracted to children.
665
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,040
And he was put into a position
where his reputation was his protection.
666
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,199
Kids are all from the Bankstown
and Newtown Police Boys Clubs there.
667
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,119
How come there's so many girls
in a police boys club?
668
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,440
It was never like that when I was a kid.
669
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,119
- Lucky devils.
- [children laughing]
670
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,760
And you look nice
with the lipstick on your teeth.
671
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,120
One of the features
of Rolf Harris's predatory behaviour
672
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,719
was that he would commit sexual offences
against children in a very public place.
673
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:03,079
It was almost as if the risk
was part of the thrill.
674
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,880
[dramatic music playing]
675
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,879
[reporter 20] I'd like to return
to the Rolf Harris case.
676
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,159
And there is a move to extinguish
all evidence of him
677
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,880
and his art in the public domain.
678
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,919
The memory of his evil
is behind the red paint.
679
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,439
[reporter 21] I would be
urging the council
680
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,679
to remove the plaques
and take down the paintings
681
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,359
that we currently have hanging
in the council chambers.
682
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,160
[reporter 22] On eBay, there's an exodus
of Rolf Harris's work.
683
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,159
[Callum] Rolf Harris's artwork,
as I understand it,
684
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,400
is now worth close to nothing.
685
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,399
[reporter 23] The British Academy
of Film and Television Arts
686
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,280
has taken back its fellowship.
687
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,879
[Nick] He's still got such validation
from crowds, from adulation.
688
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,639
He desperately wanted to be admired.
689
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,839
His diminished reputation cut him off
from almost everything he valued.
690
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,359
[reporter 24] Rolf Harris was stripped
of an honour granted by the Queen
691
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,040
after he painted
her 80th birthday portrait.
692
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,879
Well, here we are.
693
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,960
{\an8}Australian victims did not get a trial.
694
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,679
{\an8}No, they've essentially got nothing.
695
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,399
There's been no charges laid.
There's been no consequences.
696
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,279
It does feel like a failure
of the Australian justice system.
697
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,319
[sombre music playing]
698
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,319
[Suzi] Australia has very strict
defamation laws.
699
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,399
In Australia, if they're
a really rich, famous actor,
700
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,239
good luck, because it's up to you
to prove that you were assaulted.
701
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:37,919
And for me, the defamation laws
in our country stop victims,
702
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,680
survivors like me, that don't have money,
703
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,920
coming forward against the big,
rich entertainers like your Rolf Harris'.
704
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,759
- [indistinct chatter]
- [sombre music playing]
705
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,920
[rain pattering]
706
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,439
Rolf Harris received
five years and nine months,
707
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,040
but Harris came out
after about three years.
708
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:05,080
But that's nothing.
709
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,959
I thought a sexual offender's act
should be a bit longer.
710
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960
No wonder people just, like,
don't say anything and just live with it.
711
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,359
What message did it send to all of you?
712
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,239
It's almost like
you're rewarding the perpetrator,
713
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:23,720
and, like, what sort of message
is that really sending to,
714
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,199
like, other victims who maybe
haven't come forward yet,
715
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,599
you know, to the victim themselves,
716
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,080
who's going to live with this trauma
for their whole life?
717
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,159
It's just, like, the opposite of what
a justice system is supposed to be,
718
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,280
because it's not just.
719
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,439
Just, in my view, I'm, like,
incredibly angry to hear that.
720
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,439
It makes me look at that and just think,
721
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,519
there is history of protecting
the powerful men.
722
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,240
But why would I go forward?
723
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,760
There is the need to be heard.
724
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,239
The victims cannot move on.
725
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:59,319
They cannot get to that point
without some acknowledgement.
726
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,120
And so I can only say
that in this particular case…
727
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,520
there was profound change…
728
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,560
in the life course
of those who came forward.
729
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,959
So was it worth it? Did they get justice?
730
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,880
- [sombre music playing]
- [indistinct chatter]
731
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:26,520
[train horn blaring]
732
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:33,280
[soft music playing]
733
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,920
[Chris] Yeah, it's haunting
being back here.
734
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,200
That's the house right there.
735
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,120
The house that Rolf lived in.
736
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,799
So after he came out of jail,
this is where he came,
737
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,119
- and in its own right, it became a jail.
- [sombre music playing]
738
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,599
[Chris] I know that mentally
he had spiralled.
739
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,359
His depression and his fall
from grace was so big
740
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,520
that he was very rarely seen
out in public anymore.
741
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,640
- [camera shutter clicking]
- [Chris] He lived here as a recluse.
742
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,080
It became a gilded cage,
somewhere where he was
743
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,959
free to walk around
the grounds of the house,
744
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,760
but almost like being
on house arrest himself.
745
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,120
And he lived out
the rest of his days here.
746
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,520
[sombre music playing]
747
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,599
[reporter 25] Breaking news overnight.
748
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,919
Convicted paedophile
and disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris
749
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,880
has been confirmed
as dead at the age of 93.
750
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,240
He died never publicly apologising
to his victims.
751
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:48,319
[Suzi] It took a long time
for Rolf Harris and men like him in the UK
752
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,559
to be brought to justice
because women were not listened to
753
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,440
and because we were not believed.
754
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,319
Actually being believed
and coming forward and having it pursued
755
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,480
made me much more powerful,
and that power comes from being heard.
756
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,319
- [sombre music playing]
- [Nick] The Rolf Harris case
757
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,040
was important because
it broke a bit of ground.
758
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:15,200
That kind of mental process of saying,
if I believe this victim, what then?
759
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,880
Which became such a stronger theme
during #MeToo.
760
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,879
It was part of a wave.
761
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,839
At the very least it was evidence
that things were changing.
762
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,600
[crowd chanting]
763
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,759
We will never know
the full scale of his abuse.
764
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,320
I shudder to think of how many
people's lives he actually destroyed.
765
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:44,279
Back then people were allowed
to get away with things
766
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,839
that they're not allowed
to get away with today.
767
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,560
But stories are coming forward
more and more.
768
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,200
And it's not just a handful of us.
769
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,440
That's the astonishing thing about it.
770
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,080
This is more powerful than just my story.
771
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,960
It's a lot of people's stories.
772
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,840
[sombre music playing]
773
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,360
[sombre music playing]