1 00:00:01,021 --> 00:00:03,660 The following programme contains strong language, 2 00:00:03,661 --> 00:00:06,821 and scenes which some viewers may find distressing. 3 00:00:30,541 --> 00:00:33,700 The UK is under pressure following the sinking 4 00:00:33,701 --> 00:00:35,820 of a Russian vessel in British waters, 5 00:00:35,821 --> 00:00:38,621 prompting accusations that Britain is to blame. 6 00:00:39,901 --> 00:00:43,180 Radar alert. One cruise missile picked up. 7 00:00:45,261 --> 00:00:47,620 Give me your hand. Run! 8 00:00:47,621 --> 00:00:51,900 Russia has attacked the UK in a wave of deadly missile strikes. 9 00:00:51,901 --> 00:00:55,181 We are, in effect, in a state of war with Russia. 10 00:00:55,981 --> 00:00:58,460 We must be absolutely sure that we're now dealing with 11 00:00:58,461 --> 00:00:59,580 mass casualties. 12 00:00:59,581 --> 00:01:02,300 The level of shock and panic is unbelievable. 13 00:01:02,301 --> 00:01:05,541 This is a life-and-death decision that we are taking. 14 00:01:06,221 --> 00:01:10,180 We currently have one operating air defence destroyer. 15 00:01:10,181 --> 00:01:11,980 Just one vessel. 16 00:01:11,981 --> 00:01:15,580 You guys can't be calling Washington every time 17 00:01:15,581 --> 00:01:17,300 there's a problem in Europe. 18 00:01:17,301 --> 00:01:19,980 We've received an ultimatum from the Russians. 19 00:01:19,981 --> 00:01:22,740 Their terms are: NATO allies stop helping us 20 00:01:22,741 --> 00:01:25,380 and that we all resign as a Cabinet. 21 00:01:25,381 --> 00:01:26,901 This is a trap. 22 00:01:27,541 --> 00:01:32,701 I want to make sure that we hit them with all of the force we can. 23 00:01:33,941 --> 00:01:38,581 You have my authorisation to strike Kaliningrad and Murmansk. 24 00:01:52,781 --> 00:01:54,660 40 seconds back. Kill ready. TAC. 25 00:01:58,221 --> 00:01:59,820 Weapon away. 26 00:01:59,821 --> 00:02:01,821 20 seconds. 27 00:02:12,421 --> 00:02:16,461 Prime Minister, the attack on Russian targets was successful. 28 00:02:17,461 --> 00:02:20,700 In Murmansk, the submarine struck a radar station, 29 00:02:20,701 --> 00:02:22,180 which is out of action, 30 00:02:22,181 --> 00:02:25,540 and a comms and planning facility on the airbase 31 00:02:25,541 --> 00:02:27,461 with some aircrew accommodation. 32 00:02:28,261 --> 00:02:31,661 That will have killed Russian service personnel. 33 00:02:32,741 --> 00:02:35,260 And the air attack on Kaliningrad 34 00:02:35,261 --> 00:02:39,660 hit the headquarters of the Baltic Sea Fleet successfully, 35 00:02:39,661 --> 00:02:43,180 damaged and possibly sank two ships, 36 00:02:43,181 --> 00:02:45,181 one a frigate and one a landing ship. 37 00:02:45,941 --> 00:02:48,700 We lost one aircraft. One Typhoon has not returned. 38 00:02:48,701 --> 00:02:51,940 I think it's very highly unlikely the pilot has survived. 39 00:02:51,941 --> 00:02:53,581 But we don't have that confirmed. 40 00:02:54,421 --> 00:02:57,620 Would you consider this operation to have been successful? 41 00:02:57,621 --> 00:03:00,540 So, in my assessment, both missions were highly successful. 42 00:03:00,541 --> 00:03:02,700 And more than that, it will have shown the Russians 43 00:03:02,701 --> 00:03:06,140 that we are capable of striking important military facilities 44 00:03:06,141 --> 00:03:07,380 that they rely on. 45 00:03:07,381 --> 00:03:10,460 And the downside is, of course, it will have really hurt. 46 00:03:10,461 --> 00:03:12,221 Yep. Of course, they will respond. 47 00:03:13,741 --> 00:03:15,500 Do we have any idea... 48 00:03:15,501 --> 00:03:18,580 Prime Minister, I have an update, uh, which could be significant. 49 00:03:18,581 --> 00:03:21,940 It appears that the top Russian leadership 50 00:03:21,941 --> 00:03:27,700 have moved from Moscow to secure facilities in the Urals, 51 00:03:27,701 --> 00:03:30,340 which is a fortified underground bunker they use 52 00:03:30,341 --> 00:03:32,061 in case of nuclear escalation. 53 00:03:33,261 --> 00:03:37,061 That may have implications, of course, for what comes next. 54 00:03:38,101 --> 00:03:40,460 CDS, what's your reading of the situation? 55 00:03:40,461 --> 00:03:42,020 Sir, we're absolutely clear. 56 00:03:42,021 --> 00:03:43,900 Why would you move your senior leadership? 57 00:03:43,901 --> 00:03:48,700 It's either a message or it is potentially preparation 58 00:03:48,701 --> 00:03:51,941 for them resorting to the use of weapons of mass destruction. 59 00:03:55,661 --> 00:03:59,380 Can we just, like, slow down the escalation in this discussion? 60 00:03:59,381 --> 00:04:04,580 Surely, it's unthinkable that they would launch a nuclear weapon. 61 00:04:07,181 --> 00:04:09,820 That is true, but I think at the very least, 62 00:04:09,821 --> 00:04:12,140 we obviously need to take similar measures here. 63 00:04:12,141 --> 00:04:14,820 We need to evacuate, uh, this building now... 64 00:04:14,821 --> 00:04:17,221 Go. Go. Out that way. ...and go to a secure location. 65 00:04:30,901 --> 00:04:34,460 A dramatic escalation tonight as Britain launch 66 00:04:34,461 --> 00:04:37,100 what they describe as proportionate strikes 67 00:04:37,101 --> 00:04:39,341 on military targets inside Russia. 68 00:04:41,421 --> 00:04:44,980 A move officials say is aimed at weakening Moscow's ability 69 00:04:44,981 --> 00:04:46,460 to attack. 70 00:04:46,461 --> 00:04:50,180 Independent journalists report heavy casualties, 71 00:04:50,181 --> 00:04:53,820 while the RAF confirms one of its Typhoon aircraft 72 00:04:53,821 --> 00:04:57,221 has been lost, with one pilot still unaccounted for. 73 00:04:59,421 --> 00:05:02,940 As world leaders urge caution and call for restraint, 74 00:05:02,941 --> 00:05:05,061 the focus turns to Moscow. 75 00:05:06,781 --> 00:05:10,500 The main question for British commanders is, 76 00:05:10,501 --> 00:05:12,501 what will Russia do next? 77 00:05:33,861 --> 00:05:38,741 I do need to remind all of us what a terrible situation we are now in. 78 00:05:39,621 --> 00:05:43,420 And we have to review what exactly the Russians are up to 79 00:05:43,421 --> 00:05:46,380 with this latest move to their nuclear bunker. 80 00:05:46,381 --> 00:05:50,500 It could be a preparation for the very, very worst from the Russians. 81 00:05:50,501 --> 00:05:52,820 But we have to be clear that the Russians are trying 82 00:05:52,821 --> 00:05:54,780 to mess with our minds as well. 83 00:05:54,781 --> 00:05:57,741 What we must not do is automatically rush to judgment. 84 00:05:58,781 --> 00:06:01,220 Look, Prime Minister, at the moment, 85 00:06:01,221 --> 00:06:04,700 there is no evidence that they are going to escalate 86 00:06:04,701 --> 00:06:08,260 to nuclear weapons or anything of that kind. 87 00:06:08,261 --> 00:06:11,861 What we do know, though, is that they are going to hit us again. 88 00:06:15,581 --> 00:06:17,741 And we need to be ready for that. 89 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:24,340 Prime Minister, this is a moment where we have to try again... 90 00:06:24,341 --> 00:06:26,900 Mm-hmm. ...to see if there's any 91 00:06:26,901 --> 00:06:29,741 diplomatic route at all for this. 92 00:06:30,821 --> 00:06:32,660 Just one point, Prime Minister. 93 00:06:32,661 --> 00:06:34,580 If you look at the way that this is... 94 00:06:34,581 --> 00:06:38,500 has already escalated and the likelihood of further escalation, 95 00:06:38,501 --> 00:06:41,260 this is the moment for the Americans to put real pressure 96 00:06:41,261 --> 00:06:43,020 on the Russians to stop it, 97 00:06:43,021 --> 00:06:45,460 in their own interest, not to help us. 98 00:06:45,461 --> 00:06:48,540 I think we need to... We need to talk to the Americans. 99 00:06:48,541 --> 00:06:50,820 For the US, why this is, um... 100 00:06:50,821 --> 00:06:52,940 so counterproductive to their- 101 00:06:52,941 --> 00:06:56,260 to their own interests is that all it is telling the world 102 00:06:56,261 --> 00:06:58,660 and their foes is that credibility is shot, 103 00:06:58,661 --> 00:07:01,260 and the very thing that they purport to care about, 104 00:07:01,261 --> 00:07:04,220 which is not having a war that is escalating, 105 00:07:04,221 --> 00:07:05,940 they have failed on every front. 106 00:07:05,941 --> 00:07:07,180 Penny's right. 107 00:07:07,181 --> 00:07:09,180 I think this is about saying to them, 108 00:07:09,181 --> 00:07:11,660 this is a situation that is escalating to the point, 109 00:07:11,661 --> 00:07:14,380 you can't keep out of it and... And what do we want them to do? 110 00:07:14,381 --> 00:07:17,340 One word from the President of the United States would end this. 111 00:07:17,341 --> 00:07:18,620 One word. 112 00:07:18,621 --> 00:07:20,140 What we're asking... It would. 113 00:07:20,141 --> 00:07:23,140 ...to do is this, to recognise that Russia's hit us, 114 00:07:23,141 --> 00:07:27,860 we've hit back, but to say to Russia, enough is enough. 115 00:07:27,861 --> 00:07:30,020 Make him the peacemaker. Make him the big man. 116 00:07:30,021 --> 00:07:31,900 Allow him to be in control. 117 00:07:31,901 --> 00:07:35,700 We want him to believe that this is his fight. 118 00:07:35,701 --> 00:07:37,660 And if that means that he takes credit 119 00:07:37,661 --> 00:07:40,061 for bringing that peace about, then so be it. 120 00:07:41,821 --> 00:07:43,861 Let's get the Americans on the line. 121 00:07:44,901 --> 00:07:47,260 Secretary of State, Defence Secretary, 122 00:07:47,261 --> 00:07:49,021 thank you for your time. 123 00:07:50,221 --> 00:07:52,460 I want to say to you sincerely, 124 00:07:52,461 --> 00:07:56,660 we are not asking the United States of America to enter a war. 125 00:07:56,661 --> 00:07:59,980 We are respectfully asking the United States of America 126 00:07:59,981 --> 00:08:02,780 to help us stop a war, 127 00:08:02,781 --> 00:08:06,420 to be the peacemaker in this situation. 128 00:08:06,421 --> 00:08:10,380 Well, I want to remind you in our last call... 129 00:08:10,381 --> 00:08:14,220 I told you to step down. We told you to de-escalate. 130 00:08:14,221 --> 00:08:17,580 Uh, you took exactly the opposite road. 131 00:08:17,581 --> 00:08:19,820 When you deep strike Russia, 132 00:08:19,821 --> 00:08:23,500 you no longer are the attacked party. 133 00:08:23,501 --> 00:08:25,540 You're a co-escalator. 134 00:08:25,541 --> 00:08:28,500 And to use one of your British words, 135 00:08:28,501 --> 00:08:32,860 I am miffed, OK? And that's to put it very politely. 136 00:08:32,861 --> 00:08:34,820 Yeah, I got a couple of things. 137 00:08:34,821 --> 00:08:37,221 First of all, have you people lost your minds? 138 00:08:41,221 --> 00:08:45,620 I mean, how is a provocation supposed to help the process? 139 00:08:45,621 --> 00:08:47,100 What happens next? 140 00:08:47,101 --> 00:08:49,180 Do you think the Russians are just gonna stand by 141 00:08:49,181 --> 00:08:51,060 and let Murmansk get blown to hell? 142 00:08:51,061 --> 00:08:54,260 They have nuclear assets in that area for Christ's sake. 143 00:08:54,261 --> 00:08:57,740 Mr Secretary, the United Kingdom has retaliated 144 00:08:57,741 --> 00:08:59,620 in a proportionate manner. 145 00:08:59,621 --> 00:09:02,461 The Russians are telling us a very different story. 146 00:09:03,301 --> 00:09:06,141 The command structure is relocating east of the Urals. 147 00:09:07,421 --> 00:09:10,300 Here's what we're- we're thinking about right now. 148 00:09:10,301 --> 00:09:13,100 Our people are deeply concerned about spillage, 149 00:09:13,101 --> 00:09:16,460 the danger of mistake in a situation 150 00:09:16,461 --> 00:09:19,581 where we're talking about two nuclear-capable powers. 151 00:09:21,461 --> 00:09:23,900 What do your studies tell you about how many casualties 152 00:09:23,901 --> 00:09:25,221 are gonna happen then? 153 00:09:27,021 --> 00:09:31,900 Our overwhelming priority is peace, and to step back from the brink. 154 00:09:31,901 --> 00:09:34,860 What we want is a de-escalation, 155 00:09:34,861 --> 00:09:38,820 but you drove it to a place where none of us wanted it to go, 156 00:09:38,821 --> 00:09:41,781 and you've put us all in a terrible position. 157 00:09:42,741 --> 00:09:47,221 Let us do our work without further provocation. 158 00:09:57,421 --> 00:09:58,781 That went well. 159 00:10:02,501 --> 00:10:05,220 Obviously, the Americans are our greatest hope right now, 160 00:10:05,221 --> 00:10:07,501 but so far, they've not had any success. 161 00:10:08,821 --> 00:10:14,181 If America does not broker peace, what other option do we have? 162 00:10:15,021 --> 00:10:16,460 What are we going to do? 163 00:10:16,461 --> 00:10:18,820 And, Prime Minister, this is important, 164 00:10:18,821 --> 00:10:21,740 in addition to the nations that we already have, 165 00:10:21,741 --> 00:10:23,740 France and Germany have said 166 00:10:23,741 --> 00:10:26,140 that they will stand by for military assistance. 167 00:10:26,141 --> 00:10:27,261 Great. 168 00:10:28,061 --> 00:10:31,620 Getting these major European powers on board is massive. 169 00:10:31,621 --> 00:10:34,140 We want the diplomacy to prevail, 170 00:10:34,141 --> 00:10:37,220 but we must also be prepared 171 00:10:37,221 --> 00:10:41,540 so that if that attack comes, we won't be on the back foot. 172 00:10:41,541 --> 00:10:45,180 I agree we have got to maintain the pressure on Russia 173 00:10:45,181 --> 00:10:47,260 for as long as they continue to do this, 174 00:10:47,261 --> 00:10:49,660 driving them to end it. 175 00:10:49,661 --> 00:10:53,300 We've got to remember this is a country that couldn't defeat Ukraine 176 00:10:53,301 --> 00:10:55,220 in all of those years. 177 00:10:55,221 --> 00:10:56,620 And now we've... 178 00:10:56,621 --> 00:10:58,140 Later than we wanted, 179 00:10:58,141 --> 00:11:01,060 but we've managed to combine and gather lots of allies. 180 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:02,780 Yeah. This is messaging. 181 00:11:02,781 --> 00:11:06,300 The point of that is not just to have a bigger and bigger fight. 182 00:11:06,301 --> 00:11:08,300 No. It's surely 183 00:11:08,301 --> 00:11:12,260 for our allies in Europe, particularly France and Germany, 184 00:11:12,261 --> 00:11:15,260 to say to Russia, this has got out of hand and stop. 185 00:11:15,261 --> 00:11:17,740 Uh, Richard-There's a question we have to consider, though. 186 00:11:17,741 --> 00:11:19,941 How is Russia going to see this? 187 00:11:31,821 --> 00:11:34,740 A significant moment today for the British government 188 00:11:34,741 --> 00:11:38,460 as two of Europe's most powerful militaries announce plans 189 00:11:38,461 --> 00:11:40,261 to join the war against Russia. 190 00:11:41,141 --> 00:11:43,660 The UK will hope its increased strength, 191 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:46,660 bolstered by France and Germany, will deter Russia. 192 00:11:46,661 --> 00:11:49,700 Despite warnings that by hitting targets in the vicinity 193 00:11:49,701 --> 00:11:53,141 of the Russian nuclear fleet, the UK has crossed a red line. 194 00:12:01,501 --> 00:12:04,220 France and Germany are now backing us against Russia. 195 00:12:04,221 --> 00:12:06,540 Listen, you might think that's a good thing. I don't. 196 00:12:06,541 --> 00:12:08,820 I'm not gonna lie, I don't think it's a good thing at all. 197 00:12:08,821 --> 00:12:10,981 I just think it's more problems now. It's more war. 198 00:12:12,581 --> 00:12:15,060 So, Ange, Germany and France have joined the fight. 199 00:12:15,061 --> 00:12:16,860 That feels like really good news right now. 200 00:12:16,861 --> 00:12:18,380 Yeah, it does, Tom. But remember, 201 00:12:18,381 --> 00:12:21,220 if Russia's overall goal is to break the NATO alliance, 202 00:12:21,221 --> 00:12:23,020 they've not yet succeeded. 203 00:12:23,021 --> 00:12:25,620 It's true, America hasn't rallied to help us yet, 204 00:12:25,621 --> 00:12:28,700 but with major European allies and Ukraine on board, 205 00:12:28,701 --> 00:12:30,660 it's surely a much bigger response 206 00:12:30,661 --> 00:12:32,500 than what Russia would have anticipated. 207 00:12:32,501 --> 00:12:34,460 So, what's Moscow's next move then, Ange? 208 00:12:34,461 --> 00:12:37,100 Do you think they'll be feeling backed into a corner right now? 209 00:12:37,101 --> 00:12:40,580 Well, you've got to get into the mindset of this Russian president. 210 00:12:40,581 --> 00:12:43,700 For him to back down at this stage, I mean, it's unthinkable. 211 00:12:43,701 --> 00:12:46,421 I feel we may have passed the point of no return. 212 00:13:06,141 --> 00:13:08,500 So, I think there's a balance there, isn't there? 213 00:13:08,501 --> 00:13:11,540 Um, about whether or not we believe that 214 00:13:11,541 --> 00:13:15,180 being seen to be prepared 215 00:13:15,181 --> 00:13:18,580 means that the Russians feel pressured 216 00:13:18,581 --> 00:13:21,940 because they see us and our allies applying pressure to them. 217 00:13:21,941 --> 00:13:25,380 Can I interject? I'm sorry, I've got an update. And I'm... 218 00:13:25,381 --> 00:13:28,300 I'm afraid, as in previous updates, it's not good news. 219 00:13:28,301 --> 00:13:31,660 Imagery and SIGINT, signals intelligence, 220 00:13:31,661 --> 00:13:35,860 is indicating Russian preparations for large-scale strikes, 221 00:13:35,861 --> 00:13:38,860 which include the movement and the arming 222 00:13:38,861 --> 00:13:41,420 of the following weapon system. 223 00:13:41,421 --> 00:13:43,540 Prime Minister, from satellite imagery, 224 00:13:43,541 --> 00:13:46,660 we're seeing what's called a transporter erector launcher, 225 00:13:46,661 --> 00:13:52,140 which is a missile launcher system loaded at a rail facility 226 00:13:52,141 --> 00:13:55,461 in Krichev and moving. 227 00:13:57,941 --> 00:14:03,460 The second image shows that train traveling northbound 228 00:14:03,461 --> 00:14:05,741 through the Murmansk region. 229 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:10,900 The military intelligence assessment is that Russia is moving 230 00:14:10,901 --> 00:14:15,580 at least one intermediate-range Oreshnik ballistic missile system 231 00:14:15,581 --> 00:14:17,221 to the Kola Peninsula. 232 00:14:18,621 --> 00:14:20,900 And the Kola Peninsula, shown on the map, 233 00:14:20,901 --> 00:14:25,420 is significant because a missile placed there 234 00:14:25,421 --> 00:14:26,941 can reach the UK. 235 00:14:32,061 --> 00:14:34,660 The Oreshnik is the latest Russian missile system. 236 00:14:34,661 --> 00:14:37,500 It's hypersonic, so it travels at Mach 10. 237 00:14:37,501 --> 00:14:40,100 So the missiles that have been fired into Ukraine 238 00:14:40,101 --> 00:14:43,980 have had several high-explosive warheads on them. 239 00:14:43,981 --> 00:14:48,381 It's dual-capable. It can be conventional or it can be nuclear. 240 00:14:49,061 --> 00:14:52,301 And we need to be really clear about that. It can be one of either. 241 00:14:54,101 --> 00:14:58,500 What is the time between the launch order being issued 242 00:14:58,501 --> 00:15:00,460 and impact of this missile? 243 00:15:00,461 --> 00:15:01,781 22 minutes. 244 00:15:03,061 --> 00:15:05,621 And we have nothing that can shoot this down. 245 00:15:09,341 --> 00:15:12,900 There's incredible echoes here in this latest piece of intelligence 246 00:15:12,901 --> 00:15:15,140 of them using exactly the same weapons, 247 00:15:15,141 --> 00:15:18,060 exactly the same sort of targets as they did in Ukraine. 248 00:15:18,061 --> 00:15:19,260 Mm-hmm. 249 00:15:19,261 --> 00:15:21,780 What do you think the chances are that the Russians might 250 00:15:21,781 --> 00:15:26,620 actually put a nuclear warhead on this missile? 251 00:15:26,621 --> 00:15:28,821 I think it's very small, but I can't exclude it. 252 00:15:35,261 --> 00:15:36,661 Prime Minister, we... 253 00:15:37,261 --> 00:15:39,740 I hope Richard is right, 254 00:15:39,741 --> 00:15:42,820 but if it does have a nuclear warhead, 255 00:15:42,821 --> 00:15:45,061 what damage will one of these weapons do? 256 00:15:46,461 --> 00:15:48,940 So, this is the conundrum. Yeah. 257 00:15:48,941 --> 00:15:53,740 So Russia has tactical nuclear weapons where they are... 258 00:15:53,741 --> 00:15:56,701 I'm gonna use this word carefully, locally devastating. 259 00:15:57,461 --> 00:16:01,580 For the sake of argument, Hiroshima-sized nuclear destruction. 260 00:16:01,581 --> 00:16:03,340 That was 15 kilotons. Yeah. 261 00:16:03,341 --> 00:16:05,420 These can be bigger. Could be 15 to 50. 262 00:16:05,421 --> 00:16:06,660 But... Hiroshima? 263 00:16:06,661 --> 00:16:10,620 Hiroshima? Yes. So, a city is destroyed. 264 00:16:10,621 --> 00:16:13,420 Jesus. Give us a, you know, what would- 265 00:16:13,421 --> 00:16:15,900 What would it do to Inverness? 266 00:16:15,901 --> 00:16:18,780 So, Inverness is the sort of size of target 267 00:16:18,781 --> 00:16:22,461 that will be destroyed by a tactical nuclear weapon. 268 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:27,900 But what we're not talking about is a strategic weapon, 269 00:16:27,901 --> 00:16:31,420 although, as you know, Russia has a lot of those, 270 00:16:31,421 --> 00:16:34,740 where you are looking at the destruction at once 271 00:16:34,741 --> 00:16:39,661 of Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, and others. 272 00:16:40,461 --> 00:16:42,221 A country destroyer. 273 00:16:44,621 --> 00:16:46,421 A tactical nuclear weapon. 274 00:16:47,181 --> 00:16:49,260 That's like a nuclear warning shot. 275 00:16:49,261 --> 00:16:52,500 And life in the country would go ahead pretty much 276 00:16:52,501 --> 00:16:54,141 everywhere else unmolested. 277 00:16:54,901 --> 00:16:58,580 Russia knows we don't have those weapons. 278 00:16:58,581 --> 00:17:01,140 We do not have a tactical nuclear response. 279 00:17:01,141 --> 00:17:02,500 Mm-hmm. 280 00:17:02,501 --> 00:17:05,580 We only have strategic weapons of mass destruction. 281 00:17:05,581 --> 00:17:08,900 So, the challenge here, in my view, 282 00:17:08,901 --> 00:17:14,460 is whether if Russia were to resort to using a tactical nuclear weapon, 283 00:17:14,461 --> 00:17:16,580 they will be assuming 284 00:17:16,581 --> 00:17:20,220 that you would not escalate to the use of strategic weapons, 285 00:17:20,221 --> 00:17:21,821 using a Trident missile. 286 00:17:22,821 --> 00:17:25,540 Prime Minister, can I just inject some realism here? 287 00:17:25,541 --> 00:17:28,100 Uh, the nuclear weapons, and, 288 00:17:28,101 --> 00:17:30,260 you know, you can use the word tactical, 289 00:17:30,261 --> 00:17:32,220 we're still talking about nuclear weapons, 290 00:17:32,221 --> 00:17:35,620 have not been used since Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 291 00:17:35,621 --> 00:17:40,380 And we have had a series of very, very serious wars 292 00:17:40,381 --> 00:17:45,420 around the world where nations have been nuclear armed 293 00:17:45,421 --> 00:17:49,461 and have failed, thankfully, to use nuclear weapons. 294 00:17:50,501 --> 00:17:54,140 All the evidence points so far that they are not going 295 00:17:54,141 --> 00:17:56,621 to use these kinds of weapons. But... 296 00:17:57,981 --> 00:18:01,100 ...if this escalates and we start to get new intelligence through 297 00:18:01,101 --> 00:18:02,900 that their position is shifting, 298 00:18:02,901 --> 00:18:05,740 this Cabinet needs an extremely clear view 299 00:18:05,741 --> 00:18:08,500 because you will have moments to decide 300 00:18:08,501 --> 00:18:12,021 what you are going to do in response. 301 00:18:13,061 --> 00:18:15,740 I just want to add one thing from a comms point of view. 302 00:18:15,741 --> 00:18:18,460 We obviously don't know exactly what Russia's going to do. 303 00:18:18,461 --> 00:18:21,861 I'm just conscious that this is escalating. People are... 304 00:18:22,541 --> 00:18:25,860 ...are just anticipating what's coming next. 305 00:18:25,861 --> 00:18:29,620 The question that people are now asking is raging on social media, 306 00:18:29,621 --> 00:18:32,781 "Are we heading to the use of nuclear weapons?" 307 00:18:36,381 --> 00:18:40,181 Yeah, you lot, I've never seen this in my 22 years of living. 308 00:18:42,421 --> 00:18:44,300 As the crisis escalates, 309 00:18:44,301 --> 00:18:47,900 reports of looting and civil disorder are widespread. 310 00:18:50,581 --> 00:18:53,100 While volunteer groups have sprung up 311 00:18:53,101 --> 00:18:55,100 to get supplies to the most vulnerable. 312 00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:57,580 This is just a message to all the people that ransacked 313 00:18:57,581 --> 00:18:58,940 the water in the supermarket. 314 00:18:58,941 --> 00:19:00,860 Please think about the other people out there. 315 00:19:00,861 --> 00:19:02,980 There's elderly people that need water. 316 00:19:02,981 --> 00:19:05,701 There's families that have children that need water. 317 00:19:06,421 --> 00:19:09,780 The ports of Dover, Harwich and Hull are in chaos 318 00:19:09,781 --> 00:19:11,820 with thousands attempting to board ferries 319 00:19:11,821 --> 00:19:14,220 as people scramble to leave the country. 320 00:19:14,221 --> 00:19:17,620 I just want to take my family and just get 321 00:19:17,621 --> 00:19:19,741 all the way into the countryside. 322 00:19:30,301 --> 00:19:33,540 Prime Minister, I just want to dial down a little the- the- 323 00:19:33,541 --> 00:19:35,380 the nuclear rhetoric here. 324 00:19:35,381 --> 00:19:39,900 So Russia is much more likely to deliver a- 325 00:19:39,901 --> 00:19:42,380 a conventional attack, 326 00:19:42,381 --> 00:19:45,300 so ballistic and cruise missiles in the UK 327 00:19:45,301 --> 00:19:48,221 in at least the same numbers that we saw before. 328 00:19:49,741 --> 00:19:53,181 And make no mistake, this could be utterly devastating. 329 00:19:54,421 --> 00:19:56,340 I agree with CDS's analysis, 330 00:19:56,341 --> 00:20:00,580 but we do have a window of opportunity at this moment 331 00:20:00,581 --> 00:20:06,021 to try and deter that attack and deter future aggression. 332 00:20:06,781 --> 00:20:12,060 The correct response from us is to, I think, increase our options 333 00:20:12,061 --> 00:20:14,140 for a conventional response. 334 00:20:14,141 --> 00:20:17,700 Do we have your permission to produce that target list 335 00:20:17,701 --> 00:20:20,180 and make ready with our allies to respond? 336 00:20:20,181 --> 00:20:21,421 Yes. 337 00:20:26,141 --> 00:20:27,820 I've got all your messages. 338 00:20:27,821 --> 00:20:30,381 I haven't been able to reply, but we have... 339 00:20:32,341 --> 00:20:35,260 What we now need to construct for the Secretary of State 340 00:20:35,261 --> 00:20:38,020 are the targeting options of the next round 341 00:20:38,021 --> 00:20:40,620 of military strikes with our European allies. 342 00:20:40,621 --> 00:20:43,740 I think the nations that will be able to help us out most quickly 343 00:20:43,741 --> 00:20:49,020 are going to be Finland with F-35s, and, I suspect, Norway. 344 00:20:49,021 --> 00:20:51,621 In addition to Germany and France? Correct. 345 00:20:52,861 --> 00:20:55,341 I'm gonna message him. I'm gonna message him first. 346 00:20:56,061 --> 00:20:57,781 OK. I'll do that. 347 00:21:01,381 --> 00:21:04,500 We can hit the Oreshnik site, because the TLAM shooter we used 348 00:21:04,501 --> 00:21:06,740 for that initial package is still around the top. 349 00:21:06,741 --> 00:21:08,820 And is the TLAM shooter in range? We... 350 00:21:08,821 --> 00:21:10,141 - Yes. - Yes? - Yeah.- OK. 351 00:21:15,901 --> 00:21:17,860 Prime Minister, if- if I may, 352 00:21:17,861 --> 00:21:21,100 we know that train with Oreshnik launch platforms 353 00:21:21,101 --> 00:21:23,781 has arrived in the Kola Peninsula. 354 00:21:24,861 --> 00:21:27,300 My advice to you is we send a message to them 355 00:21:27,301 --> 00:21:30,180 by destroying it with a Tomahawk land attack missile. 356 00:21:30,181 --> 00:21:32,820 Now, there are complications with doing this. 357 00:21:32,821 --> 00:21:34,180 It's not NATO. 358 00:21:34,181 --> 00:21:37,580 It'll take time to orchestrate. About 24 hours. 359 00:21:37,581 --> 00:21:39,980 I think the Deputy Prime Minister may be worried 360 00:21:39,981 --> 00:21:41,740 that what we're doing is escalating, 361 00:21:41,741 --> 00:21:43,460 but I don't want to put words in your mouth. 362 00:21:43,461 --> 00:21:46,340 No, I- I am worried. How's America going to see this? 363 00:21:46,341 --> 00:21:48,940 - Mm-hmm. - We've asked Americato be the peacemaker. 364 00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:52,420 Does this action basically put us back into the position 365 00:21:52,421 --> 00:21:53,661 of the aggressor? 366 00:21:54,861 --> 00:21:58,060 I know the Deputy Prime Minister has concerns about the messaging 367 00:21:58,061 --> 00:22:00,940 to the US, but I do think it is in our interest 368 00:22:00,941 --> 00:22:05,460 to put ourselves more in the driving seat of this situation. 369 00:22:05,461 --> 00:22:09,340 What- Well, I think, if I'm right, CDS, what you're doing is asking 370 00:22:09,341 --> 00:22:11,580 for permission to prepare for this, 371 00:22:11,581 --> 00:22:14,340 but that this action would not take place for 24 hours. 372 00:22:14,341 --> 00:22:15,820 So, at the very least, 373 00:22:15,821 --> 00:22:18,780 we have a self-imposed 24-hour window for diplomacy. 374 00:22:18,781 --> 00:22:20,021 That's exactly right. 375 00:22:21,541 --> 00:22:23,780 One of the virtues of air power 376 00:22:23,781 --> 00:22:26,140 is that it can be turned off at very short notice. 377 00:22:26,141 --> 00:22:28,820 What it can't be done is constructed at very short notice. 378 00:22:28,821 --> 00:22:31,181 You can't conjure it up like that. But I can't conjure it up. 379 00:22:32,261 --> 00:22:34,981 And we have to hope they don't launch before then. 380 00:22:36,821 --> 00:22:40,060 This morning, Europe is standing shoulder to shoulder 381 00:22:40,061 --> 00:22:42,700 with the UK. Military officials have arrived 382 00:22:42,701 --> 00:22:45,861 at a major NATO air operations centre in Germany. 383 00:22:46,741 --> 00:22:50,260 The base is a state-of-the-art complex tasked with defending 384 00:22:50,261 --> 00:22:54,140 Europe's airspace from air and missile attacks. 385 00:22:54,141 --> 00:22:57,060 France's flagship Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier 386 00:22:57,061 --> 00:23:00,260 has also been spotted in the North Sea, 387 00:23:00,261 --> 00:23:03,900 its deck loaded with Rafale fighter jets. 388 00:23:03,901 --> 00:23:07,820 Could this public show of force be designed to bring Russia back 389 00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:09,980 to the negotiating table? 390 00:23:09,981 --> 00:23:14,141 Or is Europe edging towards a far more dangerous confrontation? 391 00:23:21,621 --> 00:23:25,100 So, we will continue to work with Chinese and others to try 392 00:23:25,101 --> 00:23:27,100 and shape the environment 393 00:23:27,101 --> 00:23:29,580 so that the Russians do not attack us... Sir, update. 394 00:23:29,581 --> 00:23:31,221 Thank you. 395 00:23:32,501 --> 00:23:34,060 Um, more news. 396 00:23:34,061 --> 00:23:37,340 It's just, um, reading through this right now, Prime Minister. 397 00:23:37,341 --> 00:23:41,860 The Russian president has now gone on television to announce 398 00:23:41,861 --> 00:23:44,380 that Russia has raised its nuclear threat level 399 00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:47,181 to full in their national alert system... 400 00:23:49,341 --> 00:23:51,780 ...which is the highest possible level, 401 00:23:51,781 --> 00:23:55,140 which means full nuclear military mobilisation. 402 00:23:57,781 --> 00:24:00,740 The president of the Russian Federation has raised 403 00:24:00,741 --> 00:24:04,380 the country's nuclear forces to the highest level possible. 404 00:24:04,381 --> 00:24:06,740 Full nuclear readiness. 405 00:24:06,741 --> 00:24:11,140 This means nuclear forces have been placed on maximum alert 406 00:24:11,141 --> 00:24:13,381 and are being ready to strike. 407 00:24:20,181 --> 00:24:25,021 Prime Minister... this is a significant, uh, move. 408 00:24:25,901 --> 00:24:29,860 Paranoia is never far from the surface with Russian leaders, 409 00:24:29,861 --> 00:24:33,981 but, uh... but doing this at this stage looks really ominous. 410 00:24:34,741 --> 00:24:37,580 They're upping the ante, but in doing so, 411 00:24:37,581 --> 00:24:41,340 that also indicates that the climb down from this position 412 00:24:41,341 --> 00:24:43,220 is going to be much harder. 413 00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:46,940 But I do think that them making these moves 414 00:24:46,941 --> 00:24:51,980 does require a reset of the work that Jim has been doing 415 00:24:51,981 --> 00:24:54,300 in trying to get them to stand out. 416 00:24:54,301 --> 00:24:57,780 This, for me, this is a remarkable Russian overreach 417 00:24:57,781 --> 00:25:01,620 that gives us a genuine diplomatic opportunity 418 00:25:01,621 --> 00:25:03,940 to re-energise an off-ramp. 419 00:25:03,941 --> 00:25:05,820 I mean, I agree entirely. 420 00:25:05,821 --> 00:25:09,300 But in my view, we have no evidence so far 421 00:25:09,301 --> 00:25:11,980 that Russia is remotely interested in de-escalation. 422 00:25:11,981 --> 00:25:14,180 All of the evidence before us right now 423 00:25:14,181 --> 00:25:15,820 points in the opposite direction, 424 00:25:15,821 --> 00:25:20,140 that Russia is rolling out a plan that has been long in the making, 425 00:25:20,141 --> 00:25:22,621 and that they have an end point in sight. 426 00:25:32,421 --> 00:25:35,340 Russia ratcheting up the nuclear threat. 427 00:25:35,341 --> 00:25:38,140 The president publicly admitting he is considering 428 00:25:38,141 --> 00:25:40,020 the use of nuclear weapons. 429 00:25:40,021 --> 00:25:43,100 Fucking hell, guys, this is World War 3 seemingly on the cards 430 00:25:43,101 --> 00:25:44,820 in the very near future. 431 00:25:44,821 --> 00:25:47,420 I'm not ready for this. I can't be dealing with this right now. 432 00:25:47,421 --> 00:25:49,740 No, no, no, I can't do this. 433 00:25:49,741 --> 00:25:53,180 The public appears to be losing faith that the Russia crisis 434 00:25:53,181 --> 00:25:54,900 can be solved diplomatically. 435 00:25:54,901 --> 00:25:56,500 Look at this. 436 00:25:56,501 --> 00:26:00,460 Many Britons are preparing for the previously unthinkable, 437 00:26:00,461 --> 00:26:01,941 a nuclear war. 438 00:26:02,541 --> 00:26:04,020 This is mind-blowing. 439 00:26:04,021 --> 00:26:07,380 If you do see a bright flash, you've got eight to ten seconds 440 00:26:07,381 --> 00:26:09,540 to lie on the ground and close your eyes. 441 00:26:09,541 --> 00:26:11,980 Keep your mouth open and breathe through your teeth 442 00:26:11,981 --> 00:26:14,060 because closing it can burst your lungs, 443 00:26:14,061 --> 00:26:17,220 rupture your eardrums and cause other organs to explode. 444 00:26:17,221 --> 00:26:21,460 Get out there now before it gets crazy, and stock up on water, 445 00:26:21,461 --> 00:26:23,820 canned food, medical supplies. 446 00:26:23,821 --> 00:26:27,580 We've got a pile of clothes, battery packs, phone chargers, 447 00:26:27,581 --> 00:26:29,220 stuff like that. 448 00:26:29,221 --> 00:26:31,061 The panic's starting to set in. 449 00:26:31,741 --> 00:26:35,220 Guys, I'm at Finsbury Park right now, and I'm scared, bro. 450 00:26:35,221 --> 00:26:38,220 I think this is, like, the place where everyone's kind of sheltering 451 00:26:38,221 --> 00:26:41,380 tonight because it's probably one of the biggest stations, right? 452 00:26:41,381 --> 00:26:43,740 But I don't even know if it's a safe place to be at. 453 00:26:43,741 --> 00:26:46,381 Oh, my days. 454 00:26:47,541 --> 00:26:49,181 I mean, just look at that. 455 00:26:55,861 --> 00:27:00,700 Prime Minister, I do think it would be sensible to plan on the- 456 00:27:00,701 --> 00:27:02,461 on the worst-case scenario. 457 00:27:03,101 --> 00:27:04,540 I agree. 458 00:27:04,541 --> 00:27:08,141 We need to look at the consequences of what we're contemplating. 459 00:27:09,181 --> 00:27:12,300 Um, we've got our nuclear adviser on the line. 460 00:27:12,301 --> 00:27:14,061 Thank you very much. Hello. 461 00:27:15,021 --> 00:27:17,660 I've been asked to set out the context in which your decisions 462 00:27:17,661 --> 00:27:21,861 will be applied in the instance of a nuclear blast in the UK. 463 00:27:23,261 --> 00:27:25,900 In the immediate fallout from the blast, 464 00:27:25,901 --> 00:27:29,940 with a small payload of around 50 kilotons, 465 00:27:29,941 --> 00:27:31,700 within a second, 466 00:27:31,701 --> 00:27:35,820 there would be a flash intense heat and the immediate burns 467 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:38,701 and ignition of fires throughout the area. 468 00:27:40,501 --> 00:27:43,700 A powerful blast wave would destroy buildings, 469 00:27:43,701 --> 00:27:46,501 shatter windows and throw debris. 470 00:27:47,821 --> 00:27:53,340 We estimate there would be between 50,000 and 100,000 fatalities 471 00:27:53,341 --> 00:27:56,541 and between 100 and 200,000 injuries. 472 00:27:59,101 --> 00:28:01,420 In the immediate hours after a strike, 473 00:28:01,421 --> 00:28:03,820 we should plan for the emergency services 474 00:28:03,821 --> 00:28:05,420 to be completely overwhelmed, 475 00:28:05,421 --> 00:28:08,701 for water, power and communications to fail. 476 00:28:14,941 --> 00:28:17,220 For contingency planning, 477 00:28:17,221 --> 00:28:19,260 we should already be thinking about 478 00:28:19,261 --> 00:28:21,700 a single clear line of communication 479 00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:23,700 containing simple messages 480 00:28:23,701 --> 00:28:26,421 of what people need to store for the coming days. 481 00:28:33,421 --> 00:28:36,140 We do not have a national system of shelters. 482 00:28:36,141 --> 00:28:39,580 People should be advised to shelter in their homes 483 00:28:39,581 --> 00:28:42,501 or in their places of work or other public buildings. 484 00:28:45,741 --> 00:28:47,860 In one to three days, 485 00:28:47,861 --> 00:28:50,540 severe radiological exposure 486 00:28:50,541 --> 00:28:55,021 will start causing acute sickness among some of the survivors. 487 00:28:56,261 --> 00:28:59,220 The consequences would go on for weeks and months, 488 00:28:59,221 --> 00:29:02,580 possibly years and decades, 489 00:29:02,581 --> 00:29:05,620 with long-term health impacts, including cancer. 490 00:29:07,221 --> 00:29:11,100 The NHS will be stretched beyond all relevant contingency planning 491 00:29:11,101 --> 00:29:12,461 to date. 492 00:29:17,221 --> 00:29:20,141 I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. 493 00:29:25,021 --> 00:29:26,900 Thank you very much. Thank you. 494 00:29:26,901 --> 00:29:28,141 Thank you. 495 00:29:33,741 --> 00:29:36,141 If you have anxiety... 496 00:29:37,341 --> 00:29:39,860 ...turn off the news, stop reading it, stop listening. 497 00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:41,900 If there's anything important, you'll find out. 498 00:29:41,901 --> 00:29:43,500 Don't worry, somebody will tell you. 499 00:29:43,501 --> 00:29:47,340 In the meantime, don't feed your anxiety. 500 00:29:47,341 --> 00:29:50,500 We're getting ready for it, the big buttons, as it were. 501 00:29:50,501 --> 00:29:51,981 We'll start sending... 502 00:29:53,421 --> 00:29:56,701 ...big lumps of radioactive waste to one another, it seems. 503 00:29:57,541 --> 00:29:59,540 And it makes my teeth itch. 504 00:29:59,541 --> 00:30:03,500 Grown-up white men monumentally screwing things up 505 00:30:03,501 --> 00:30:05,380 for the planet and their children. 506 00:30:05,381 --> 00:30:07,701 It just feels so wrong. So, so wrong. 507 00:30:11,021 --> 00:30:14,460 We're applying every ounce of diplomatic pressure 508 00:30:14,461 --> 00:30:17,100 this country can muster in every embassy, 509 00:30:17,101 --> 00:30:19,460 in every capital city all across the world 510 00:30:19,461 --> 00:30:21,860 to try and find a diplomatic solution. 511 00:30:21,861 --> 00:30:25,220 Because, look, we have these weapons. 512 00:30:25,221 --> 00:30:28,140 We never want to use them. No. 513 00:30:28,141 --> 00:30:31,700 I think we should talk to the NATO Secretary General, 514 00:30:31,701 --> 00:30:35,901 to see if he has any new advice on how to halt this escalation. 515 00:30:38,781 --> 00:30:42,140 Secretary General, I just wanted briefly to update you. 516 00:30:42,141 --> 00:30:46,420 As you know, there is evidence of Russian preparation for escalation, 517 00:30:46,421 --> 00:30:49,420 including the deployment of ballistic missiles, 518 00:30:49,421 --> 00:30:52,740 which could have a tactical nuclear payload. 519 00:30:52,741 --> 00:30:56,540 What I need from you is a clear indication 520 00:30:56,541 --> 00:31:00,341 about where you believe NATO can secure peace. 521 00:31:01,861 --> 00:31:06,340 Prime Minister, um... These are very, very serious times. 522 00:31:06,341 --> 00:31:08,580 First of all, I have made a statement 523 00:31:08,581 --> 00:31:14,220 declaring that Russia's attempt to place the United Kingdom 524 00:31:14,221 --> 00:31:17,140 as the aggressor is completely wrong. 525 00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:20,980 But I will continue with my efforts to make sure 526 00:31:20,981 --> 00:31:23,181 that there is not any further escalation. 527 00:31:24,221 --> 00:31:28,540 If it is the case that the Russians continue to escalate, 528 00:31:28,541 --> 00:31:34,340 what is an appropriate defensive military response? 529 00:31:34,341 --> 00:31:38,660 Well, Prime Minister, there is a heavy responsibility lying on 530 00:31:38,661 --> 00:31:41,021 your shoulders at the present moment. 531 00:31:41,741 --> 00:31:45,660 Britain's nuclear weapons are allocated to NATO, 532 00:31:45,661 --> 00:31:48,740 but, of course, the Trident missile system 533 00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:51,621 is a sovereign United Kingdom capability. 534 00:31:53,181 --> 00:31:57,180 So you are in the position of being able to react. 535 00:31:57,181 --> 00:31:59,980 But the Kremlin know that as well. 536 00:31:59,981 --> 00:32:05,181 If they make a decision to attack, then it's to risk Armageddon. 537 00:32:06,101 --> 00:32:11,380 At the end of the day, uncertainty is the basis of deterrence. 538 00:32:11,381 --> 00:32:13,861 But it's a very heavy responsibility. 539 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,180 If it all goes wrong, 540 00:32:17,181 --> 00:32:20,180 then I don't think most of us are going to be around 541 00:32:20,181 --> 00:32:22,340 to pick up the pieces. 542 00:32:22,341 --> 00:32:24,020 Secretary General, that's very sombre. 543 00:32:24,021 --> 00:32:26,140 While I do appreciate your efforts, 544 00:32:26,141 --> 00:32:28,260 I hope that in calmer times 545 00:32:28,261 --> 00:32:30,540 we'll be able to resume this conversation. Thank you. 546 00:32:30,541 --> 00:32:31,781 I hope so. 547 00:32:33,781 --> 00:32:35,181 That's pretty clear. 548 00:32:36,341 --> 00:32:38,820 Is there anyone who doesn't think that we should begin 549 00:32:38,821 --> 00:32:41,220 preparation for the very, very worst from the Russians? 550 00:32:44,301 --> 00:32:47,780 I come to this table as someone with a lifelong opposition 551 00:32:47,781 --> 00:32:48,940 to nuclear weapons. 552 00:32:48,941 --> 00:32:50,980 But I am aware that we're in a position 553 00:32:50,981 --> 00:32:54,621 where we can't afford to discount any potentially credible option. 554 00:32:55,421 --> 00:32:58,540 Prime Minister, we're depending on our allies here, 555 00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:01,300 and we're using our diplomacy. 556 00:33:01,301 --> 00:33:03,620 And if we start even threatening 557 00:33:03,621 --> 00:33:05,980 that we'll respond disproportionately, 558 00:33:05,981 --> 00:33:09,260 I will respond with a strategic nuclear weapon, 559 00:33:09,261 --> 00:33:11,420 we'll be undermining the agreements 560 00:33:11,421 --> 00:33:14,100 that we've reached about how we should all behave. 561 00:33:14,101 --> 00:33:16,740 The message that they want to send is that they can toy 562 00:33:16,741 --> 00:33:18,420 with a country like the United Kingdom. 563 00:33:18,421 --> 00:33:20,740 But Prime Minister... Wait, wait, wait, wait. 564 00:33:20,741 --> 00:33:25,780 Parliament has vested power in us, the executive, to take action. 565 00:33:25,781 --> 00:33:29,900 We cannot abrogate our responsibility 566 00:33:29,901 --> 00:33:32,740 and we have to show the Russians we are prepared 567 00:33:32,741 --> 00:33:34,141 to launch a nuclear missile. 568 00:33:35,301 --> 00:33:38,460 The reason why I want to make that clear 569 00:33:38,461 --> 00:33:42,100 is because they might think we're mad enough to do that. 570 00:33:42,101 --> 00:33:43,420 They might not want to risk it. 571 00:33:43,421 --> 00:33:45,580 No, they know we're not mad enough. That's the point. 572 00:33:45,581 --> 00:33:47,460 Well, quite. They know we're not mad enough. 573 00:33:47,461 --> 00:33:49,580 But they have to believe that we're mad enough. 574 00:33:49,581 --> 00:33:50,660 Precisely. 575 00:33:50,661 --> 00:33:52,340 They have to believe we're mad enough. 576 00:33:52,341 --> 00:33:54,900 Even if we're not serious about using our nuclear weapons, 577 00:33:54,901 --> 00:33:57,420 the Russians have to believe that we're serious. 578 00:33:57,421 --> 00:34:00,700 Prime Minister, I genuinely do not think that this is the moment 579 00:34:00,701 --> 00:34:02,340 when we need to start to think about... 580 00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:04,620 Well, I- ...launching nuclear Trident. 581 00:34:04,621 --> 00:34:08,220 I 100% don't want to get involved in a nuclear exchange. 582 00:34:08,221 --> 00:34:12,020 But the main way to avoid the destruction of our planet 583 00:34:12,021 --> 00:34:16,061 is for the Russians to believe that we will strike them. 584 00:34:27,901 --> 00:34:30,100 I mean, it's just... it's just... 585 00:34:30,101 --> 00:34:32,900 I just feel like we're starting to hypothesise 586 00:34:32,901 --> 00:34:36,500 rather than having conversations on actually the situation 587 00:34:36,501 --> 00:34:37,660 that we're in. 588 00:34:37,661 --> 00:34:39,900 I mean, this is going to be resolved diplomatically. 589 00:34:39,901 --> 00:34:42,741 This is not going to be resolved militarily. 590 00:34:43,661 --> 00:34:47,260 Jim, do we have any feedback at all 591 00:34:47,261 --> 00:34:51,580 from the much-vaunted back channel of which the Americans have spoken? 592 00:34:51,581 --> 00:34:54,381 I'll go talk to the Americans, Prime Minister. 593 00:34:59,861 --> 00:35:03,460 I really need to understand the situation. 594 00:35:03,461 --> 00:35:06,820 What if they were to use nuclear weapons against us? 595 00:35:06,821 --> 00:35:08,420 Where does that leave us? 596 00:35:08,421 --> 00:35:11,780 The only scenario in which it could be lawful 597 00:35:11,781 --> 00:35:15,020 is an extreme circumstance of self-defence 598 00:35:15,021 --> 00:35:19,140 where the very existence of the state is at stake. 599 00:35:19,141 --> 00:35:21,060 Right, I need to use those words then. 600 00:35:21,061 --> 00:35:23,141 Those are the key words. OK. OK. 601 00:35:27,541 --> 00:35:31,621 If a nuclear weapon drops, there is nothing we can do. 602 00:35:32,381 --> 00:35:35,660 Absolute fear that's going to go through the country is absolute- 603 00:35:35,661 --> 00:35:37,860 Well, you know, I've given permission to the regional 604 00:35:37,861 --> 00:35:40,540 directors of the NHS to have these nightingale hospitals for 605 00:35:40,541 --> 00:35:43,060 dealing with the extra casualties. ...from a human level 606 00:35:43,061 --> 00:35:45,140 in terms of the public. Yeah, I know, but don't say- 607 00:35:45,141 --> 00:35:47,780 don't say nothing can be done and nothing's going to be done- 608 00:35:47,781 --> 00:35:50,060 No, we're just talking privately in this room. 609 00:35:50,061 --> 00:35:52,740 We're talking as human beings. I'm talking to my team privately 610 00:35:52,741 --> 00:35:54,260 in this room in terms of- 611 00:35:54,261 --> 00:35:56,500 Be aware of what is being done on the ground. 612 00:35:56,501 --> 00:35:59,220 Yeah, it's inadequate, but actually steps are being taken. 613 00:35:59,221 --> 00:36:01,540 And we've been doing that. We've absolutely doing that. 614 00:36:01,541 --> 00:36:04,740 But we're just talking on a human level, nothing has ever happened 615 00:36:04,741 --> 00:36:07,421 to this country like this, and we just need to be honest about that. 616 00:36:18,261 --> 00:36:22,380 There is no moderation in the Russian mindset. 617 00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:26,821 We need a coordinated effort by the US to help the United Kingdom. 618 00:36:27,861 --> 00:36:31,980 We've tried every diplomatic avenue to get the Russians to de-escalate. 619 00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:35,421 But I have to tell you, as yet, we're not making any headway. 620 00:36:37,861 --> 00:36:39,660 Do you get any sense from them 621 00:36:39,661 --> 00:36:42,620 that they're readying for an escalation to nuclear? 622 00:36:42,621 --> 00:36:44,220 Not explicitly. 623 00:36:44,221 --> 00:36:47,260 POTUS has made his position crystal clear to the Russians. 624 00:36:47,261 --> 00:36:50,980 We have no intelligence that would confirm or deny preparations 625 00:36:50,981 --> 00:36:53,421 for a nuclear launch. I'm sorry, Jim. 626 00:36:54,861 --> 00:36:56,501 OK, Secretary. Thank you. 627 00:37:01,421 --> 00:37:03,021 Jesus Christ. 628 00:37:19,581 --> 00:37:21,500 Oreshnik has been launched. Sorry? 629 00:37:21,501 --> 00:37:24,060 Unable to detect the nature of the missile warhead. 630 00:37:24,061 --> 00:37:27,780 Prime Minister, I can confirm from our satellites 631 00:37:27,781 --> 00:37:31,100 that an Oreshnik missile has been launched in the Kola Peninsula. 632 00:37:31,101 --> 00:37:33,060 Has been launched? Has been launched, 633 00:37:33,061 --> 00:37:36,100 within range of the UK, and it's not clear 634 00:37:36,101 --> 00:37:38,940 at the moment whether it's carrying a nuclear warhead 635 00:37:38,941 --> 00:37:40,780 or a conventional warhead. 636 00:38:22,021 --> 00:38:25,701 This is a life-threatening national emergency. 637 00:38:26,581 --> 00:38:30,181 The United Kingdom is at imminent risk of attack. 638 00:38:31,661 --> 00:38:33,781 Go indoors immediately. 639 00:38:35,581 --> 00:38:39,221 Do not travel. Do not attempt to leave your area. 640 00:38:40,461 --> 00:38:43,501 Do not leave your shelter to check on others. 641 00:38:44,901 --> 00:38:47,301 Close all windows and doors. 642 00:38:48,181 --> 00:38:51,101 Continue listening for further instructions. 643 00:38:52,021 --> 00:38:55,181 Go in. Stay in. Stay tuned. 644 00:38:57,861 --> 00:39:01,980 Prime Minister, we know that an Oreshnik missile is going to land 645 00:39:01,981 --> 00:39:04,621 somewhere in the UK inside 22 minutes. 646 00:39:06,541 --> 00:39:08,381 We cannot intercept it. 647 00:39:09,101 --> 00:39:11,140 It flies over some of our allies. Right. 648 00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:13,020 Can they do anything? No. 649 00:39:13,021 --> 00:39:16,540 We do not know whether this missile has a conventional 650 00:39:16,541 --> 00:39:17,860 set of warheads on it, 651 00:39:17,861 --> 00:39:21,420 in which case it will feel like a normal ballistic missile attack, 652 00:39:21,421 --> 00:39:23,700 or if it has a nuclear warhead on it. 653 00:39:23,701 --> 00:39:27,261 Inside 22 minutes now, we will lose a British city. 654 00:39:28,181 --> 00:39:29,580 Oh my God. 655 00:39:29,581 --> 00:39:31,260 When do we know which city it will hit? 656 00:39:31,261 --> 00:39:33,860 Just one second, just one second. So, there is... 657 00:39:33,861 --> 00:39:36,340 We won't know where it's going until it's landed. 658 00:39:36,341 --> 00:39:39,100 When it's arrived, only then will I know 659 00:39:39,101 --> 00:39:41,540 whether it had a nuclear weapon on it or not. 660 00:39:41,541 --> 00:39:44,061 We'll all know at that point. I cannot tell you in advance. 661 00:39:45,541 --> 00:39:48,580 The major decision that you have to take 662 00:39:48,581 --> 00:39:50,700 because this missile could land on us 663 00:39:50,701 --> 00:39:54,260 is whether you believe if this is a nuclear attack, 664 00:39:54,261 --> 00:39:57,900 whether it warrants a strategic nuclear response, 665 00:39:57,901 --> 00:40:01,580 and you know the consequences of that for both ourselves and Russia. 666 00:40:01,581 --> 00:40:03,100 Yeah, uh... We can't. 667 00:40:03,101 --> 00:40:04,420 We can't. No, we can. 668 00:40:04,421 --> 00:40:06,900 No, no, no, hold on. We can't, Prime Minister, we can't. 669 00:40:06,901 --> 00:40:11,220 Even if we were to have a tactical nuclear weapon 670 00:40:11,221 --> 00:40:12,860 fired at us, 671 00:40:12,861 --> 00:40:16,500 we cannot launch a nuclear weapon in response. 672 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,060 The law on this is very clear. 673 00:40:18,061 --> 00:40:21,780 Unless the very existence, the very survival of your state 674 00:40:21,781 --> 00:40:25,660 is at stake, the nuclear option is not an option. 675 00:40:25,661 --> 00:40:28,340 If a nuclear weapon was to be used, 676 00:40:28,341 --> 00:40:32,220 Russia would be fully aware that they were committing a war crime. 677 00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:35,060 Well, there would be many of us left around to prosecute them. 678 00:40:35,061 --> 00:40:37,180 No, no, but... No, no, no. Well, just one second. 679 00:40:37,181 --> 00:40:39,900 Michael, Michael, Michael, we're talking about using 680 00:40:39,901 --> 00:40:41,300 weapons of mass destruction. 681 00:40:41,301 --> 00:40:43,420 I'd like to hear from our legal adviser. 682 00:40:43,421 --> 00:40:47,020 Even if we lost one million of our own citizens, 683 00:40:47,021 --> 00:40:48,580 our families, 684 00:40:48,581 --> 00:40:53,021 the laws in relation to using a nuclear weapon are very clear. 685 00:40:53,781 --> 00:40:58,300 I will not sacrifice 67 million for one million, 686 00:40:58,301 --> 00:41:00,180 and I will not sacrifice the law 687 00:41:00,181 --> 00:41:02,460 because we become gung-ho in a bunker. 688 00:41:10,061 --> 00:41:13,220 Prime Minister, there is a missile hurtling towards this country. 689 00:41:13,221 --> 00:41:15,220 What we need to do is go off 690 00:41:15,221 --> 00:41:18,540 and get prepared for the human impact of this missile. 691 00:41:18,541 --> 00:41:20,380 If we're going to lose a city, 692 00:41:20,381 --> 00:41:23,660 do you think that firing a Trident missile, 693 00:41:23,661 --> 00:41:26,020 our independent strategic nuclear deterrent, 694 00:41:26,021 --> 00:41:27,861 at Russia is the right response? 695 00:41:33,621 --> 00:41:35,141 Prime Minister? 696 00:41:36,901 --> 00:41:38,581 We've all had our say... 697 00:41:40,101 --> 00:41:43,700 ...it's for you to decide. 698 00:42:00,741 --> 00:42:04,181 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky